April 24, 2025 • 52 mins
It’s Draft Day so 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe relive the days that changed their lives. Brady delivers his Explosive Top 10 Mock Draft! And TheMMQB’s Albert Breer gives last minute insights before the draft at Lambeau.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We do it here live on Draft Day. It is
Draft Day. It is finally here. But you can put
aside all the speculation and we can start holding people
accountable for some of these garbage betting lines that are
out there, these over unders, all that stuff. Now we're
gonna get the real answers coming up later on tonight.
(00:35):
How fired up are you, guys? Nice exciting, good talk. No,
this is an awesome day.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is a life changing day for so many guys
out there who sacrificed a ton to get there. The parents,
the caretakers, people who have poured into these young men,
sacrificed so much for them to have a chance to
get there, the coaches, and it's just an awesome I
mean you.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Think back to all the hard work, everything that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Goes into this stuff for these young men and and
this is that moment where they get to see their
dreams come true.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
So there's nothing like Draft Day.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's it's one of the most incredible events in your life,
especially at this point. But more than anything else, it
is the greatest reality TV of all.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Time, the best.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same time,
just because of everything that surrounds it. But the guys,
what were you stressed about going on? There's always something,
there's always something to stress out about in my case.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Like having to wait ten minutes to get drafted. That
is that your story?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, well, back then they negotiated before the draft, the
first pick negotiated.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I was back then. It was the same thing for me.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I was in.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
But the difference between you and me was I was
negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating, so I
was on the phone. So I didn't I didn't feel
myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it because there
were so many people talking to me. My agent was
talking to me, both franchises were talking to me, and
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so it was kind of like I didn't get an
opportunity to really like take it all in because they
were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of the
entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you, but
you know it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that it was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when
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you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know.
And that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like, you know, I
want to be signable. But my agent saying to trusting
and I'm like, well, look man, look man, I want
to be one. I wanted to go one. Look man,
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look hey look here, man, don't mess this up for me.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
The Raiders sent i'd like a construct of a deal
to four guys in our draft year, JaMarcus, myself, Calvin Johnson,
and then there's one other. I can't remember who it was.
I know I it was Joe Thomas or someone else.
But my agent day before it was like, I don't
even know what to make of this, Like it was
like a very rough draft, like percentages of things. He said,
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I'm not really going to entertain her and take it seriously,
he goes, because it's not like a real offer.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He goes, this is what they're trying to, like take it,
you know, sell everyone on.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And if this is why they want to like take
someone at one because they're going to take a lesser deal.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He's like, it's not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So, you know, ultimately, I don't know that anyone did
anything with whatever they sent, but eventually they end up
taking Joe Argus one, Calvin went two, and et cetera.
But that was it was that slash. You know, you're
dealing with, at least in my case, all sorts of
different information you're being passed along.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I kind of knew talking to the Cleveland Browns that
I bo, Joe Thomas and I were there at three,
that they were gonna take Joe.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They they told me that we talked about that, and
then I'd thought, at least from what I've been told
from Miami Dolphins that like I wasn't gonna go past
nine because of all the conversation we had. Terry Shay
was their quarterback coach on Cam Cameron's staff, and that
was why I worked with for a good portion of
the preparation leading up to it. Had sad some really
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good you know, workouts and time spending with Cam Cameron.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Now come to find out there was a bit of
a relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
This is like I don't know if I've ever told
this part of the story, there was a bit of
a relationship with Terry Bisky, whose son Brian Ribiski played
with Ted Gin Junior Ohio State, and apparently behind the
scenes he went all in to try to see if
he could persuade them to draft Ted gans Junior nine
and explain who's a playmaker, his speed, his special teams,
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I media impact, all that stuff. So that's a little
more context how it all kind of went down. But
the reality is is it works out out to hell,
it's gonna work out.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
That didn't stretch you out. That didn't stretch you out
into it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, not going into it like honestly I was with
it was it was the first time that week because
so for a lot of you know, a lot of
guys when when we went to New York, you get
there on like Monday. So I had been like going
to different charity events, going to different promotional events. You know,
I was getting up at four thirty to work out
of five, you know, I was doing I had a
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guy who came out there who was I did some
cross training with boxing, so we would go we do
some cardio, we'd hit some mits, we'd then go you know,
workouts to stay in shape, which I get some throws
in there in the little indoor, and I was doing
that every day at five. We had to be on
the bus by seven, So it was a it was
a not I was gonna say, like a long week
or a grueling week, but you know, I was there
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doing kind of my normal routine of what that would
look like at that time. So it wasn't like, you know,
I got to like see everyone, you know, my grandma,
my my family from Kentucky, like all these people came out,
some of us who'd never been to New York. So
I was just looking for an opportunity to see everyone.
And that was really that the final opportunity got to
see everyone. I think we went to some party. I
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remember like hold of my grandma's hand is we're walking
through this this rap concert. I don't know if it
was Fat Joe or who it was, but I just
remember looking back up as I was like, Grandma, this
same for us, and uh, I think I saw JaMarcus
Russell on stage like rapping with with someone else. Oh well, uh,
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And so we literally walked to the front, took some
pictures or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
On the red carpet, and we.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Walked right out the back door, and I was like, yep,
we we came. We saw, we went on, and we
moved on, and then we found like an Irish bar.
We went and kind of basically closed down that night.
So it was just it was it was a celebration,
you know. It was a big moment for I think
everyone who had supported me and who had been a
part of the process the entire time.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
I had a ton of people there both sides. All
my grandparents were still alive, my uncles, my aunts, cousins,
I mean, coaches, teammates, like. I had a ton of
people there, but I couldn't focus in on really really
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just being able to enjoy myself because it just I
just didn't know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I didn't know a little.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I felt a little bit of stress just even seeing
how many people were there, you know, for me, and
and I just you know, I know, I know you
guys might think this sounds crazy, but I really don't
like a lot of attention. Go it, laugh, do which
I want to do, whatever you want to do with it,
but I really don't like a ton of attention, and
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cause you know, y'all like to like break break on
me and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh, you're you're king of mammals.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Why would I like, Yeah, yeah, your your logo pictures
you running a blue whale.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I'm going to say the largest creature I'm going to
So anyway, Uh so Cleveland, Cleveland was trying to get
the deal done, and I kind of I, if I'm
being honest, I didn't want to play for Cleveland. I
one hundred percent wanted to go to Washington at two.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They get that though you grew up, you grew up
in Pittsburgh, like you probably thought, well, I wanted to
go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I wanted to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But I'm just saying, like, if you grew up in me,
I don't like Cleveland, right right, I probably thought they
were awful.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Uh they they weren't good. They were not They definitely
were not good.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And they were so what year was this, two thousand
So they just came back and that so they were
an expansion team too, Like that's the other part of
it is there.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Wasn't came back right yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Their first year back was nineteen ninety nine, so there
was one year removed from the expansion draft.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Like I like Wally Rayner, Like, there were a couple
guys that I liked there, but I just.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Didn't want to go there stealing and dirty. I'm looking
at that draft class right now.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
They they're at eight. They were at eight.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, but they but Washington had the second and the
third pick.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Was and third yea, and they weren't giving them up.
They were they they knew exactly who they were going,
like twenty twenty hindsight, they knew exactly who they were taking,
you know, at that point. But they started negotiating with me, like, well,
because here's what's wild. Dan Snyder told me to pull
my my my junk out and in the center of
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the Cleveland Brown's helmet logo, do my business on it,
throw the deuces up, and tell them I.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Don't even need to do this meeting. I'm going to Washington.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Right Wait what that's what he.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Told me, my, that's he told me at my last meeting.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Probably that should have been a red flag. It should
have been a red flag.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But that also would pump you up, would not like like,
well then then the prop me up?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Hell yeah, you know, I mean then in the moment,
I was like, yeah, of course, that's what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Look, I'm being all literal to the dude. I was like, look,
I don't want to get in trouble, and I don't.
I don't want to get in between any of you guys,
is like your ownerships, like kind of like beefs or
anything like that. I don't want to get arrested. But
I mean, if you really want me to do it,
you know that. We started laughing.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
But I can't.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
But that kind the first sign, by the way, that
was the first and that was first red flag. But
and you don't know it. You don't realize, like, dang,
this dude is crazy. In the moment, you're like, oh, man,
like this dude's like he loves me this, that and
the other. He thinks like this that you're the most
awesome person in the world to die, this, that and
the other. And I'm coming here, right So I go
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back to Cleveland. I tell Cleveland you got to pay
me quarterback money. If you don't pay me somewhere around fourteen. Look,
fourteen guaranteed. Is that crazy? I'll pay me something like
fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm not I can't. I can't do.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It, like we can't do it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And they were like, yeah, we're not going to give
you that, and so I was like, well, I'm gonna
stay firm on fourteen, and they went and got Courtney.
Courtney's agent was like, well, what is he asking for.
I went to Courtney. I told Corty, I said, don't
negotiate with them, just tell them your number, cause I'm
they've clearly established that they're talking to me and him,
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which is unique, you know, because me and him were
going to be the first my teammate went first overall
in that draft, so that was pretty cool. So we're
on the phone and I'm telling him like, I'm not
going to negotiate with him no more, so push it
up as high as you can.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
So then once they found out, Vinnie Serrado was calling
my agent's like, look, man, Dan told me, if he's
not signable, we want them. We want to take him
at too, but we will take them at three if
we have to, just to kind of, you know, kind
of knock it down just a little bit, make it
more negotiable. So you got to be negotiable at too.
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So they were negotiating against their third pick as well.
In the scenario, So it was interesting. It was an
interesting experience. But yeah, that that was kind of how
it went for me. And I had a baby on
the way, Keno. Keno was in the in the oven
and he was cooking up. So I had a pregnant
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ass baby mama on my hands at that time. Well
I loved her at the time. She was my fiance
at the time. But you know, different story now. But
part of the koyfish, I mean, she didn't make it.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
She didn't make it.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
So and them koy fish aq aq them coyfish didn't
deserve to go.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
She did anyway. I got to throw that out there too,
by the way. Hell and she didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Deserve to be there, but my son did even though
he wasn't here. So I don't know how that one works,
But to that point, there were a lot of people
that were supposed to be there and we had a really,
really good time.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
But I just they had more fun than I did,
and I thought that was pretty cool. Like, my uncles
are the reason why I played ball and played the
way that I did. I patterned myself after Westinghouse, which
was a super City City League school. My uncles played there.
They were super super fire dudes, and you know, they
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just never were they could make it to that that level.
Didn't make it to that level, I should say. And
and so for them to have the opportunity to live
it out, it was pretty That was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So it's like a wedding, if it's your wedding.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
More people, it's kind of like a wedding, yeah, or
a funerals, whichever one you want to call it. Who geez,
I was a funeral for me. I ain't know it
was a funeral, they said. When they called my name,
they just been like dead man walking.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Bears all look the same.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The reality is and this is where I feel like
a lot of young men.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
A lot of young men are more prepared for this
now than ever because the process they've already been introduced
to negotiations, they've already had some sort of professional formality
to actually playing football in college. A lot of these
guys have been getting paid, so it probably feels a
bit different.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
When you go d one that it wasn't in a
way a step or part of the dream coming true.
But now you're getting paid on top of that too,
in some cases millions of dollars for some of these
college kids. And I do wonder if that wears off
the luster of it a bit, because you know, I
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remember the days of being in zomb hall and scrounging
it together, change to go get a piece of pizza
in her basement so I could have dinner that night.
Like I remember some of the different struggles that you
have as a college student when you work a job
and you're trying to manage it and you're trying to
have enough cash or money because the dining hall is
closed by the time I got done with practice and
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treatment and then watching film and bringing stuff down preparing
for the next day, and then had to go to
study hall like there was no time.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
And so I remember all those things.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think back to just how much of a rejoice
it was to be able to then be able to
do it as a pro and not have some of
the burdens that came along with that. I shouldn't say burdens,
but the responsibilities that came along with that. So in
one way, like I do wonder if draft Day feels
the same for these guys. When I mean think about
Bryce leunder with a kid in Michigan. He's just supposed
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we signed a deal of twelve million, Like does it?
I mean, it's more money.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It feels great. It's again another step.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But you're making money now, like real money as walking
as a freshman.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And one of the things that I wanted to bring
up that I was reading about the draft and some
of the things, and I don't know if it was
this might even Jay Glazer who put this out there,
who LeVar you will be working with tonight a PM
Eastern time NFL Draft covers. Don't look anywhere else tween Fox,
don'twhere LeVar, Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Douglas, Jay Glaizer, Jenny Tapp, they got you covered.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, But I wanted to point out that medical we've
always known there's some teams that just take a guy
off the board because they don't feel like he'll be
able to do it. There's character, which is another thing
right off the field issues they.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Just feel like he's a dirt bag.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And then there's a third thing they've brought up that
they don't love football. And he said there's a number
of players now that they don't know what exactly to
attribute it to. But they do feel like this nil
era of college football player has led now to this
point of are they doing it for the money or football?
If they really don't love football, We're not sure we
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want to draft them. They're not on our board because
we for this guy is not really about what this
game takes, what it's about.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I mean, you do.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I do wonder how many players now their goal is
to go to the NFL or their goal is, man,
if I can get to college and it's a good
spot and I can make a little bit of money,
maybe I can look elsewhere. It's not the end all
be all like it used to be.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, but it's still I mean, more often than not,
it's still about trying to get to the money. The
money represents a landing place, a destination for you know,
most guys who didn't grow up with money or grew
up even with the structure and conversations that help you
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understand what having a job or you know, what that
looked like, you know, being in the real world, didn't
have all of that, that guidance, I mean, that was
that was it. So you know, guys can say, well,
I love the game, but if you were to say, well,
what's the motivation, They'll say, oh, to take care of
my mother, or to take care of you know, my
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baby sister or whatever everybody has there, you know, the chickens. Yeah,
everybody will come up with, you know, what has driven
them and what has taken them to you know that point. So,
I mean, you're going to find out if they love
the game once you start paying them, So I guess
it'd be good to figure it out. I guess, all right, well,
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do you love the game because you're making money in college?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I mean, that's an interesting you know, that's an interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Category to start judging players off of, because I think
people would be lying if they said that they have
the idea of making a seventh figure having a seven
figure job or even a high six figure job coming
out of college and you were able to earn it
and play for it doing it on the field. I mean,
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I think people would be lying. Too many, too many,
not too many people would say, I don't do it
for the money. I don't do it for it just
the pure love of the game. I mean, some of
that that motivation as to why people played away they
play is to get to the money. So I mean,
Jerry Maguire said it best. You know, Tom Cruise said
it best, like show me the money, and that was
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based off of getting what he got a new deal
that wasn't a draft.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
But I mean, there he goes Cuba Gooding Junior, who
was well to see the money the quand it was
it was Cuba the kwand yeah, yeah, I don't know though,
but so.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Hold on, hold on. How much were you offered? You
said you're off in thirteen or fourteen?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I told him I won at fourteen. I ended up
with ten. I ended up at Okay. So think about that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Bryce Underwood, the freshman quarterback in Michigan, is getting twelve
or more supposedly on his way in college.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
There you go that, I mean that' take away some
of the edge. Yes, one hundred, that'll take away some
of the edge.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And I do I do wonder like at what point
will it stop? Because college football is an expanding sport
and landscape. The ratings have continually gone up and the
media rights have continually gone up, like this thing's only
going to go up for the foreseeable future. And I
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just it's crazy to think what these guys are gonna
cost or what they'll be making, I guess, is the
other way of putting it, and that doesn't include like
what other marketing gets involved.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, it's it's gonna be wild and.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
The whole eligibility but with the settlement, as far as
you know what the requirement's going to be is going
to be you have to play five years.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
To play four.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Are they gonna get rid of the eligibility rules altogether
where guys can play for five six years? I mean,
think about that. There's a realistic scenario where the eligibility
rules are going to be challenged and this will almost
feel like a minor league to the NFL, and it
might feel like more comparable at some schools like Texas,
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Ohio State, maybe Michigan, teams of deep pockets, Penn State,
I don't know how deep the pockets are, maybe Penn State, Georgia,
a Bama. These schools they might be able to We're
not gonna have a salary cap of you know, two
hundred million, at least not now. But if we're being real,
Ohio State's is over twenty last year and it's only
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gonna build from there. Now we've got Kurt Signetti saying
some teams are paying forty they've got a roster of
forty million. Some are closer to you know, past that.
So that's so it's doubled in one year's time. Like
that means it's gonna get there by twenty thirty if
it keeps growing.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
At the rate it's growing.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Twelve million and twelve million, that's is that the most
that a quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Getting or on his on his way in?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But right now, I mean you you would presumably say
sixteen would be the most over four years, because I
believe Beck's getting four and Nico wanted four, and the
average supposedly based on a data opened the doors.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Is over three.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So do the math on that, man, Like more guys
are getting that too. That's just a that's a freshman
who's ever played before. Brock Party's made two point eight
in his career. He went to a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, Nico I Amaliaba has made more during his time
at Tennessee than brock Purty has so far as the
NFL career.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
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Speaker 4 (22:39):
This top ten.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
No takes time for Brady quinn explosive mock draft.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And it starts with number one.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
The number one.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeh uh, probably the worst kept secret. Tennessee Titans who
are looking for a quarterback. They're in the position to
take the best quarterback. Did they field calls for the
number one overall pick? You bet they did. Did they
answer any or actually pick up and say, oh, yeah, well,
maybe think about doing that with you?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Of course not.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's the Tennessee Titans taking quarterback cam Ward out of
the University of Miami formerly of Washington State, formerlya of.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Incarnate word, the record setting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It doesn't bother them that he only played the first
half of the bowl game just because he wanted to
set the record and then let his team go ahead
and get beat in the end. A lot of people
at Miami Modeste and half in that one, they were
not excited about that. That being said, cam Ward the
best quarterback in this draft class according to many. He
goes to the Tennessee Titans to try to turn around
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that franchise with the first overall pick oh.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Number two at number two.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Now, explain some about this draft. This is not what
I think they're going to do. It's not necessarily what
I would do if I was in their position, although
it's more that than it is anything else.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
This is partially too as far as how I see
the prospects.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
So a number two, the Cleveland Browns are selecting a
guy that I think would be a menace for opponents
and a guy where you put him opposite of Miles Garrett.
It creates a tandem that's going to be called sack City.
And I'm not talking about Jonas's old stopping Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Abdul Carter, the.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Edge rusher at a Penn State university. You pair him
with Miles Garrett. It is a lethal combination. I know
what the odds say. I know they say to take
Travis Hunter. They could play him as a wide receiver.
Maybe that's where Cleveland sees them. I see him more
as a cornerback. I think you can mix him in
his wide receiver. That's where you get the most out
of him. And it doesn't make sense for a fit
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for Cleveland if you be playing a corner back. Abdull
Carter he's sure as heck does. So I've got Abdull.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Carter going number two overall to the Cleveland Browns. Number
three shaked up at number three comes in a player
who with his versatility, with his star power, his ability
to impact both sides of the football, makes the most
sense for a team who's looking for that sort of
dynamic playmaker, and that's Travis Hunter, the wide receiver quarterback
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out of the University of Colorado.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
He goes to the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He provides a weapon now only for Russell Wilson or
Jamis Winston, but also a cornerback who can help improve
that defense. So Travis Hunter makes the most sense here.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
In my mind.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Number four, at number four, it stays Chockey the New
England Patriots new head coach Mike Rabel. You know he
loves the trenches and that's where he's going to go
here with one of the best tackles in the draft
in Will Campbell. It's a need for this team. They
got to protect their quarterback Drake may who was under
dressed way too much last year. Will Campbell is the
guy that I really like in this spot as far
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as his attitude, his demeanor, high level of play. I
could care less about his short arms. I don't think
Mike Brabel does either, So Will Campbell's the pick here
out of LCU at tackle for New England. Number five
at number five, we've seen a lot of momentum for
this and I think it makes sense too to add
a playmaker to help out take the pressure off Trevor
Lawrence's shoulders, and that's Ashton Genty. He's the best running
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back in this draft class. He can really do it all,
and I think he adds a boost to an offense
that's tried to rely too much on Lawrence to carry them.
Travis Etena's battle some health issues, and even then, you
know you don't have to necessarily throw Ashton genty into
the fire right away. He can slowly work his way in,
as he did have a bunch of carries his final
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year at Boise State. But Ashton Genty, the home run
hitting running back out of Boise State, goes.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Number five overall.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Number six, Las Vegas needs some help on the offensive line,
and this is where I feel like the loss of
leguas Raiders who are going to try to build through
the trenches. When you look at Spy deck to their
general manager who they've brought in.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He's typically done this in the past, and this is
where I.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Feel like they lean on one of the other better
tackles that's available in this spot. Armand Membo out of
Missouri makes a lot of sense in this pick to
shure up the protection.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
For Las Vegas moving forward.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So I've got Armin Membo going number six o goal
to help protect.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Gino Smith number seven.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
This is one where I'm just drafting because I love
the player and I feel like he's a he's versatile,
he could do a bunch of things.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
He's a playmaker for them, and.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I think the Jets are going to need a little
bit of that with justin fields to take.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
The pressure off.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's why I've got him taking Penn State's tight end
Tyler Warren number seven. Overall, you can make the case
for some other positions here. I just feel like eventually,
given again his versatility, his ability to catch, his ability
to run the football and do a bunch of different things,
is going to be a guy that I think you
look even in short yard in situations. We know about
the touch push, I don't know that you even need
that with Tyler Warren. You just need the guy who
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can go into a quarterback sneak like he can, and
so he could do a bunch of different things for
this roster that I think helps take some of the
pressure off of what is presumed to be their starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
In justin fields this.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Year number eight trade alert Alert.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Alert, Oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
The New Orleans Saints at number nine have been getting
calls about teams trying to trade up with him, and
they've got a specific player in mind, so they called
up to reassure themselves they would be able to get
this player by trading up one spot with the Carolina Panthers,
since they didn't want to get leaped frog like we
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saw in last year's draft where the Las Vegas Raiders found.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Themselves without a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So number nine, the New Orleans Saints trade up to
the number eight overall spot with the Carolina Panthers. That
the trade exchange is this the Panthers, they traded to
move back one spot to the number nine overall pick,
and they also get pick one to twelve, a fourth
round pick that moves them back and gives them an
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opportunity to still pick them.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Another quality player.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
The Saints then select quarterback Jackson Dart out of ol Miss.
It feels like there's a lot of momentum building potentially
some people have talked about them taking them, trading back
up into.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
The first round to take them. Why risk that chance?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Instead, they go ahead and get the future quarterback and
Jackson Dart out of Old Miss here at the.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Number eight spot.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Number nine, and this is where the Carolina Panthers now
slide back a spot to take a player who I
think is going to impact them off of the edge.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
They gave up Bryan Burns. They need to replace that.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It's gonna be Mickel Williams, the edge defender out of Georgia.
Makes a lot of sense for some of the needs
that Carolina has here. He's that next guy kind of
up and I think it makes again sense for a
team that needs to help him prove their defense. Number
ten and finally number ten, the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
This pick is a bit of a need, I think
for the Bears, but.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Also a player that I absolutely love, and I think
there's a lot of people who love him more than
people want to admit and I wouldn't be shocked if
he doesn't go off before this. But Josh Simmons, the
tackle out of Ohio State. He can play outside, he
can play inside. He is to me one of the
more smooth operators at the tackle position, really on the
offensive line in general. I think the world of him.
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I think he makes a lot of sense for protecting
Caleb Williams and for Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You go back to his time in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
They build up that offensive line through the draft continually
went time and time again. I think it's a no
brainer here they go with an offensive lineman, my guy,
Josh Simmons, That's who I'd go with here.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Outstanding. Yeah, I got questions. Most difficult to decision in
your top ten that made you go back and forth thinking,
I don't know if I want to go with that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Probably the New Orleans Saints and trading and then also
taking a quarterback. I think you could make a case
for the de tackle out of Old miss There. They've
got a need there. There's there's edge that you know,
they could take Jalen Walker, they could take Mike kil Williams.
That was that whole entire situation, the trade. Who Carolina took,
who New Orleans is going to take in that case.
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But the reality is. I don't know that we're going
to see a ton of trades. I feel like teams
are somewhat sloughted where they're at. We saw a report
yesterday about basically the asking price being seventy cents on
the dollar. And in the trade scenario I presented, going
based off the draft value chart, it's fifty points difference
to go from number nine to number eight. And so
the value of the one hundred and twelfth pick overall,
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which is the fourth round pick that in this scenario
that I gave up, was seventy points.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
So it kind of sweetens the pot a bit.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I think for Carolina to move back one spot knowing
they're going to get a four round pick that's just
outside of the top one hundred.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
How confident are you on this list?
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Like?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
How again?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Not not confident at all because my number two pick
goes completely against the draft odds, which which you know,
again it doesn't always mean that's how the draft's gonna work.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
We've seen it change before.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
But and this is what it should be.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Well think about it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I mean, you don't think Miles Garrett across from abdoor
Carter makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
That's why i'm as because I want you to look
at that Brady Quinn reasoning so I can feel confident
that you know, because I feel the same way.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
If you look at the Giants, the Giants don't make
any sense unless you're gonna play him off the ball,
which you'd probably go more Jalen Walker in that case.
He's got a little bit more experience doing that. But
also they've got Brian Burns, who really they don't have
an out in that contract until after twenty twenty six,
and Kevon Thibbodeau's still in his rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
So I just don't see.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Any scenario where they're going to take Abdul Carter and
then keep all three. So maybe the Giants have something
else planned, But in this case, I would think that
they would take someone who can impact their roster at
the wide receivers spot, which they need, but also help
them out on defense and also be you know, a superstar.
I think Travis Hunter would make more sense with the Giants,
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and Abdul Carter makes more sense.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
With the Browns.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It does interesting when you break it down like that
make more sense, and if you're looking to take advantage
of that DraftKings right now, Abduall Carter going number two
is plus six point fifty and Travis Hunter going three
is plus seven hundred, So if this plays out, you can.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Make a little bit of coin on that.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
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Breer ab Happy Draft Day. How are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
We made it?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
We made it, guys. I get all this information rattling
around in my head that's going to be mostly worthless
in three days. So let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What's the most interesting thing you've heard in the last
few hours about a potential surprise in the first round.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Yeah, I think it's like I think, just it's going
to be a really unpredictable first round, you know, Like
I I you know, I look at like Kat McMillan,
for example, and I could see him going five to Jacksonville,
eleven to San Francisco. I could see him falling the
Green Bay at twenty three or the Rams at twenty six.
Like I could see, you know, I could see Matthew
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Golden going twelve to the Cowboys, or maybe like fiving
all the way to the bottom of the first round,
you know, like Josh Simmons, like could he go to
the Ravens, could he go to the Chiefs? Could he
fall out of the first round. It's just there's such
a huge variants for so many of these players, you know,
And I think that's kind of the exciting thing about
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tonight is like once we get through the first few picks,
there's going to be a fair amount of of of
unpredictability and volatility. I mean, I think the first three
go chok. I think the first four go chok. I
think I think you're you're going to see it where
it's you know, where it's it's it's War to the Titans,
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Hunter to the Browns, Carter to the Giants, Campbell to
the Patriots. And then I think there's a chance all
hell breaks loose, you know, and I think Ashon genty
goes there. I feel pretty confident the tackles. The next
two tackles, Banks and Membo don't fall very far. But
other than that, like I you know, I think this
thing is really really volatile where there are a lot
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of guys in the first round that have like a
fifteen to twenty pick range in where they could go.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I guess that or we've been looking at his over
under and in regards to.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
His draft position, it's been bouncing all around the first round.
Does he get drafted tonight? And if if you say
he's going to like a percentage chance that he does,
or percentage chance he drops out in the second round.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
So this is like a tricky one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I think.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I don't think he's gonna go third overall. I don't
think he's going ninth overall. I think if he goes,
if he does not go twenty first to the Steelers,
I think there's a good chance he falls out of
the first round. Now somebody could come back in and
get him. The hard thing is the hard part for me, guys,
I'm just having a hard time finding a team that
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I can connect him to, you know, And that sometimes
to me can be a sign of like a guy falling.
And you know, I like, for example, like Jackson Dart,
like I've heard you know, Jackson has had a lot
of one on one time with with Brian daveall built
a good relationship there. I heard the Saints like him too,
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Tyler Shuck. I've heard that the the Kevin Stefanski you
know has has really taken a liking to him, and
and the Browns could get him in a second round.
Jalen Milroe, like the Steelers have had a good experience
getting to know Jalen Milroe. I'm just having a harder
time with schedule or just as far as finding a
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team to connect him to. Now that might mean nothing,
you know what I mean, It only takes one And
I would have told you last year, like and I've
used this comparison a few times with you guys like oh,
bo Nicks could easily fall out of the first round,
it didn't matter because there was one team that loved him.
And Sean Payton thinks his own way and doesn't care
what anyone else thinks, and he took him at twelve.
And the guy Damn Near who was Rookie of the
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Year second behind behind Jayden Daniels who had a historic season.
You know, so I don't know it is the best answer,
Like I I think he can go twenty one to
the Steelers, but if he doesn't buckle up, you know,
I think there's a chance he falls out of the
first round.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I'm glad you mentioned the Steelers because that was the
first thing that popped in my head when you say
a hard time connecting a team. Why is it hard
to connect the Steelers with Shador Sanders? And then my
second question is, well, let me add this to it.
Do we see something happen with Aaron Rodgers if something
doesn't happen with with the Steelers getting a quarterback?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
So here's that's like sort of the moving parts that
are that are at play here, LeVar.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I just so.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
But here's the thing is like, if they do feel
like they're gonna wind up with Aaron Rodgers, and I
honestly think they're not sure right now, but like if
they do feel like, you know, we're gonna we got
a good chance to wind up with Aaron Rodgers. And
then you look at the makeup of their team. Right
in their makeup of their team, they've got you know, TJ.
Watt At going going on thirty one, they got to
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make it fits Patrick going on twenty nine. They got
DK metcalf A on a on a third contract. They
have a young group of offensive linemen that are also
on the rookie deals that are coming together, Like they
really really feels like they're in a sweet spot right now,
or if they're going to win with this group of players,
it's got to be now. If you feel confident that
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you're going to wind up with Aaron Rodgers, can you
afford to have the twenty first pick in the draft
be somebody that's not going to play for you this year?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know?
Speaker 7 (40:29):
And if they get Rogers should do or won't play
for them this year, you know. So I think that's
part of the equation for them as well. And you know,
somebody mentioned this to me last night, and I thought
this was sort of interesting. This is a coach who
knows that plays pretty well. He said, I think they're
spooked by what happened with Kenny Picket, you know, and
like with shaud Or, you might get shades of Kenny
Picket a little bit, where the guy won in college,
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but you know, like physically it's just not overwhelming. You know.
You don't see like he's a good athlete, not a
great athlete. He doesn't have great arm talent, Like, are
the Steelers affected by that to some degree? It's I
think it's a complicated situation. So we'll see what happens.
But I certainly think that I certainly think that that,
you know, he could go to the Steelers, and if
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he doesn't, like there are pretty solid reasons.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Why Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on x at Albert Breer. This is a
little bit of a two part question for you, Abe.
But if there is a trade into the top ten,
who are the teams involved and who's the player they're targeting.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
So two teams I heard going up are Denver and
Houston that could go up. If it's if it's Denver,
like I think it's for Ashton Gent. If Houston goes up,
I would say it's for an offensive lineman. I just
don't know that they're going to go all the way
up like that. Like the Texans do have an extra
third round pick, but they're a little light on Day three,
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and so, like you know, I think I think if
it's like a it would have to be like a
Kelvin Banks or somebody like that, who I have going
six to the Raiders. But you have to be like
a Banks or someone like that starting to slide into
the teams. I just don't know that they have the
firepower to get up into the top ten. And so
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you know, I would say I would say Denver would
be a team to watch to go into the top ten.
And then if there's movement within the top ten, maybe
a Chicago or somebody like that. I think Genty is
the player that somebody's going up for. Here's the reason why.
I think, because Pat, when you get when you get
past Hunter and Carter, you're looking at will Campbell and
armand Membu and Calvin Banks. See, yeah, the good players.
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Is any Are any of those guys ever going to
be a top ten tackle? Maybe not right? You know,
Jalen Walker, mikeel Williams. Are they going to be among
the ten best pass rushers in football? Maybe not? And
then you look at Genty and I think it's easy
to look at Genty and say this could be one
of the three or four best bats in football really quickly,
you know. And so I think that that's why Jen
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He's kind of the one that some teams are looking
at and saying, if we can get a discount to
go up in the top ten or go up within
the top ten. It's cheaper than it normally wouldn't be
because teams are so desperate to move down. Maybe this
is a player that we take advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
For Hey, you mentioned Josh Shimmons attackle out of Ohio State,
essentially dropping.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
He's a guy that I love his tape below his film.
Is that more injury related?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Because when I when I watch him, I think he's
as talented as any of them.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's two things. I
think it's Andrew. I think his character and I don't
think it's like a bad guy character Brady. I think
it's more. You know, I think like when I hear
people could like talk about him from a character standpoint,
it sort of reminds me of the way that people
talked about Dez Bryant, you know, when he was coming
out in twenty ten, where it's just you know, Dez
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had them growing up to do. I think Dez needed
like handholding, you know, to some degree, and you know,
like des was somebody I remember when he was coming
out it was like, you know, it would really be
good for him if he went to the right kind
of place, like he went to a place that was
established with veterans around him. I think that's, you know,
sort of what Josh Simmons needs, which might be why
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some of the teams that aren't as established might be
scared away a little bit more by him. But I
don't think he's a bad kid by any measures. Like
I think he's you know, I think he's a from
everything I understand, a good kid. Now that the injury
is not a non factor because you know, you got
a a a tel attendant with a big man like
that's that's a tough injury to come back from. So
like I think you have to be comfortable with red
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shirting him, which is another element to it. So you know,
that's why I look at it, and I could see
Baltimore taking him, you know, they're in the twenties. I
could see Kansas City taking him at thirty one, Like
I think, you know, as teams that have you know,
a strong established culture where if they have to red
shirt him, it's not the end of the world, you know,
because coming back from that injury isn't going to be easy,
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at least in year one.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Maybe there's been a lot of kind of discussions in
terms of the number one overall pick and it being
a foregone conclusion that it's cam Ward and I get
all of that, but has there been a lot of
like kind of internally from your perspective, conversations debating the
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fact that maybe this is that one time where you say, Okay,
we get it. It's a quarterback and we need a quarterback.
And there's that whole idea of trying to find a
franchise quarterback. But is there any real pushback right now
that would lend to the idea that maybe Tennessee would
be better off going with a more bona fide contributor
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right away than taking a player that maybe doesn't necessarily
grade out like you would want to grade out for
that number one overall pick. Oh yeah, that's because of
the position.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I will best Definitely that definitely exists,
like this feeling that you know, cam Wore got pushed
up a little bit because he is a quarterback. And yeah,
I will say this, like you know, I I I
did a lot of work on the quarterbacks just talking
to you know, coach, And again, like I would say
this to you guys, this cant of yet I'm not
a scout, you know, but I I like I talked
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to a lot of people over the last couple of
weeks specific Yeah, thanks Brady, I appreciate you emphasizing that
over the over the last, over the last, and like
one thing that seems like pretty like it's a pretty
strong consensus is that that Cam is the best one
in this class. And you know, I just think if
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you're the.
Speaker 11 (46:41):
Titans, I get it, Like this is a guy where
you you look at it and say, if you can
build a good environment around him and you can give
him support early on because it looks like they're going
to play him right.
Speaker 7 (46:53):
There's still some rawness to his game, but he has
the highest ceiling, you know. And again, if you're like
looking up at like that Mount everest of quarterbacks in
the AFC, where it's God, we're gonna have we may
have to go through three of these guys chip to
make it to a super Bowl, and you're looking at
Burrow and and Lamar and and Alan and Mahomes and
then you know, just after those four, the Big Four,
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you know you got you know, your C. J. Strouds,
your TREVORL. Lawrence is R. Drake mays. You know these
guys that could that could elevate, you know, I think
Cam Moore is the guy because you know, he's the
one where it's like you can actually, you know, close
your eyes and envision that, like you can envision it
with the physical traits that he has that maybe he
eventually gets there. I think it's harder to do it
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with the other quarterbacks in the class.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
AB before we let you go, you got a bold prediction.
You got something bold off the off the radar that
maybe you know not a lot of people have that
you're calling your shot on.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
I mean, I I don't know, I got I There's
a lot of stuff out there, you know. I think,
like I mentioned McMillan, right, I mean I think like
one real shot an there would be like McMillan going
eleven to the Niners, which like it sounds crazy, but
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like you know, they are where they are with Brandon
and Yuk right now coming back off the A C L.
Juwan Jennings is in the contract year. They have Ricky
pearsall coming back. So look at the idea is we
want to be really good around brock party. I could
see that happening. I also think these connections really make
these these connections are really important, you know what I mean.
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And there's a connection there with Tech McMillan's college coach
for two years and Jed Fish, who you know was
a disciple of Mike Shanahan's.
Speaker 6 (48:39):
You know.
Speaker 7 (48:39):
The other one is like I think at the Giants
take a quarterback tonight, I think it's going to be
Jackson Dart. And this is another one where there are connections. Now,
I mentioned Dave All spent a lot of time with
with Jackson Dart over the last couple of months. Jackson Dart,
the people in in in in Oxford talk very very
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ali him and his offensive coordinator is Charlie Weiss junior. Okay,
who is David Brady, Who's Brian dave All's mentor.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
I mean Charlie Weiss is one of them.
Speaker 7 (49:13):
Yeah, Charlie Weiss is one of them. Right, So there's
just like that, like I think the Giants have gotten
outstanding information on Jackson Dart and I think, you know,
and I've talked to Charlie. Charlie loves loves, loves, loves,
loves loves Jackson dares He'll and he'll tell you that
and he'll and he'll tell you everybody's got it wrong
on this kid. So you know, I think that the
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Giants that they take a quarterback tonight, I'm gonna just
say I would think it'll be Jackson dar.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Hey, Albert, real quick, I did want to ask you
this before I let you go. We noticed, like only
fifteen guys are going to this year's draft. Some guys
have actually decided not to attend in Green Bay that
originally had committed to. Do you see a world where
they have to incentivize and pay these players to go.
It feels like we're living in a world now we
have to pay these young men to do anything. Is
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that maybe gonna happen in the future in your mind?
Speaker 7 (50:08):
I mean, we've talked about that with a combine, right too,
Like I mean, I like where you have to tay
as the top guys to come to the combine.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Now to that point, I just saw a lists two.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
By the way, there's like ten prospects who not even
injury I related, haven't done anything like, did not know
any measurables from combine pro day nothing, which is yeah,
I mean too.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
It's a Marvin Harrison effect, right, Like I mean Marvin,
and I think Marvin was different, like you know what
I mean, Like I think, so I think that this
is going to evolve over time, Brady, Right, Like I
think for these guys it's going to be like try
starting to think about it differently, and like, I think
that that's going to evolve and mature over time. Like
there's a guy who I would tell you made a
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mistake not running. That's Will Johnson from Michigan.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Right.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
I think he's a really good player, really really good player,
but there's a perception that you and have good long speed.
So he doesn't run at this pro day that he
does in April. And you know, I had a team
tell me, like, if I think you're four to six
and then you don't run, it basically confirms to me
yere four six, you know. And like if Will Johnson
was the consensus number one corner in the class and
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he was definitely going to go top ten, I would
advise him not to run. But if he wasn't that
you know what I mean. Like, So, like I think
that there are different answers for different kids. And it's
not just well, you have to run at some point anymore.
I think it's well, I got to weigh this, and
I got a weigh like if I have a bad
day or if I if I slip coming out of
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my start, like how that could cost me? You know.
I just think there's going to be much more of
a cost benefit analysis on all of these things with
a lot of these guys. That includes working out, and
I think that even includes, you know, things like attending
the drafts, Like I mean, there's probably going to be
a way to make money off of doing the drafts
at your house now right like you could probably I mean,
I don't know, would under armour come over and and
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and deck out your living room with with uh with
all kinds of stuff like that, you know, turns it
into into something else. There's just stuff like that I
think you're going to be able to do in the
future that's gonna you know, make these business decisions for
all the players, which I don't think necessarily is the
most horrible thing in the world.
Speaker 11 (52:18):
A B.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
We appreciate a good study again.
Speaker 7 (52:20):
Brady Brady. Brady Brady, I would say, like it's I
think there's going to be competition for the kid. Like
when your first question you asked about like are they
gonna have to pay him to come. Like I think
that sort of competition could wind up, could wind up
existing for the player's time on Draft night in the future.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
I can see that get him on X at Albert Breer.
We'll be watching, we'll be following along. Thanks so much,
A B. We appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (52:44):
I think that
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We do it here live on Draft Day. It is
Draft Day. It is finally here. But you can put
aside all the speculation and we can start holding people
accountable for some of these garbage betting lines that are
out there, these over unders, all that stuff. Now we're
gonna get the real answers coming up later on tonight.
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How fired up are you, guys? Nice exciting, good talk. No,
this is an awesome day.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is a life changing day for so many guys
out there who sacrificed a ton to get there. The parents,
the caretakers, people who have poured into these young men,
sacrificed so much for them to have a chance to
get there, the coaches, and it's just an awesome I
mean you.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Think back to all the hard work, everything that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Goes into this stuff for these young men and and
this is that moment where they get to see their
dreams come true.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
So there's nothing like Draft Day.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's it's one of the most incredible events in your life,
especially at this point. But more than anything else, it
is the greatest reality TV of all.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Time, the best.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same time,
just because of everything that surrounds it. But the guys,
what were you stressed about going on? There's always something,
there's always something to stress out about in my case.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Like having to wait ten minutes to get drafted. That
is that your story?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, well, back then they negotiated before the draft, the
first pick negotiated.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I was back then. It was the same thing for me.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I was in.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
But the difference between you and me was I was
negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating, so I
was on the phone. So I didn't I didn't feel
myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it because there
were so many people talking to me. My agent was
talking to me, both franchises were talking to me, and
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so it was kind of like I didn't get an
opportunity to really like take it all in because they
were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of the
entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you, but
you know it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that it was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when
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you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know.
And that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like, you know, I
want to be signable. But my agent saying to trusting
and I'm like, well, look man, look man, I want
to be one. I wanted to go one. Look man,
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look hey look here, man, don't mess this up for me.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
The Raiders sent i'd like a construct of a deal
to four guys in our draft year, JaMarcus, myself, Calvin Johnson,
and then there's one other. I can't remember who it was.
I know I it was Joe Thomas or someone else.
But my agent day before it was like, I don't
even know what to make of this, Like it was
like a very rough draft, like percentages of things. He said,
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I'm not really going to entertain her and take it seriously,
he goes, because it's not like a real offer.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He goes, this is what they're trying to, like take it,
you know, sell everyone on.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And if this is why they want to like take
someone at one because they're going to take a lesser deal.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He's like, it's not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So, you know, ultimately, I don't know that anyone did
anything with whatever they sent, but eventually they end up
taking Joe Argus one, Calvin went two, and et cetera.
But that was it was that slash. You know, you're
dealing with, at least in my case, all sorts of
different information you're being passed along.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I kind of knew talking to the Cleveland Browns that
I bo, Joe Thomas and I were there at three,
that they were gonna take Joe.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They they told me that we talked about that, and
then I'd thought, at least from what I've been told
from Miami Dolphins that like I wasn't gonna go past
nine because of all the conversation we had. Terry Shay
was their quarterback coach on Cam Cameron's staff, and that
was why I worked with for a good portion of
the preparation leading up to it. Had sad some really
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good you know, workouts and time spending with Cam Cameron.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Now come to find out there was a bit of
a relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
This is like I don't know if I've ever told
this part of the story, there was a bit of
a relationship with Terry Bisky, whose son Brian Ribiski played
with Ted Gin Junior Ohio State, and apparently behind the
scenes he went all in to try to see if
he could persuade them to draft Ted gans Junior nine
and explain who's a playmaker, his speed, his special teams,
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I media impact, all that stuff. So that's a little
more context how it all kind of went down. But
the reality is is it works out out to hell,
it's gonna work out.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
That didn't stretch you out. That didn't stretch you out
into it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, not going into it like honestly I was with
it was it was the first time that week because
so for a lot of you know, a lot of
guys when when we went to New York, you get
there on like Monday. So I had been like going
to different charity events, going to different promotional events. You know,
I was getting up at four thirty to work out
of five, you know, I was doing I had a
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guy who came out there who was I did some
cross training with boxing, so we would go we do
some cardio, we'd hit some mits, we'd then go you know,
workouts to stay in shape, which I get some throws
in there in the little indoor, and I was doing
that every day at five. We had to be on
the bus by seven, So it was a it was
a not I was gonna say, like a long week
or a grueling week, but you know, I was there
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doing kind of my normal routine of what that would
look like at that time. So it wasn't like, you know,
I got to like see everyone, you know, my grandma,
my my family from Kentucky, like all these people came out,
some of us who'd never been to New York. So
I was just looking for an opportunity to see everyone.
And that was really that the final opportunity got to
see everyone. I think we went to some party. I
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remember like hold of my grandma's hand is we're walking
through this this rap concert. I don't know if it
was Fat Joe or who it was, but I just
remember looking back up as I was like, Grandma, this
same for us, and uh, I think I saw JaMarcus
Russell on stage like rapping with with someone else. Oh well, uh,
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And so we literally walked to the front, took some
pictures or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
On the red carpet, and we.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Walked right out the back door, and I was like, yep,
we we came. We saw, we went on, and we
moved on, and then we found like an Irish bar.
We went and kind of basically closed down that night.
So it was just it was it was a celebration,
you know. It was a big moment for I think
everyone who had supported me and who had been a
part of the process the entire time.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
I had a ton of people there both sides. All
my grandparents were still alive, my uncles, my aunts, cousins,
I mean, coaches, teammates, like. I had a ton of
people there, but I couldn't focus in on really really
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just being able to enjoy myself because it just I
just didn't know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I didn't know a little.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I felt a little bit of stress just even seeing
how many people were there, you know, for me, and
and I just you know, I know, I know you
guys might think this sounds crazy, but I really don't
like a lot of attention. Go it, laugh, do which
I want to do, whatever you want to do with it,
but I really don't like a ton of attention, and
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cause you know, y'all like to like break break on
me and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh, you're you're king of mammals.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Why would I like, Yeah, yeah, your your logo pictures
you running a blue whale.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I'm going to say the largest creature I'm going to
So anyway, Uh so Cleveland, Cleveland was trying to get
the deal done, and I kind of I, if I'm
being honest, I didn't want to play for Cleveland. I
one hundred percent wanted to go to Washington at two.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They get that though you grew up, you grew up
in Pittsburgh, like you probably thought, well, I wanted to
go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I wanted to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But I'm just saying, like, if you grew up in me,
I don't like Cleveland, right right, I probably thought they
were awful.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Uh they they weren't good. They were not They definitely
were not good.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And they were so what year was this, two thousand
So they just came back and that so they were
an expansion team too, Like that's the other part of
it is there.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Wasn't came back right yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Their first year back was nineteen ninety nine, so there
was one year removed from the expansion draft.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Like I like Wally Rayner, Like, there were a couple
guys that I liked there, but I just.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Didn't want to go there stealing and dirty. I'm looking
at that draft class right now.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
They they're at eight. They were at eight.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, but they but Washington had the second and the
third pick.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Was and third yea, and they weren't giving them up.
They were they they knew exactly who they were going,
like twenty twenty hindsight, they knew exactly who they were taking,
you know, at that point. But they started negotiating with me, like, well,
because here's what's wild. Dan Snyder told me to pull
my my my junk out and in the center of
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the Cleveland Brown's helmet logo, do my business on it,
throw the deuces up, and tell them I.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Don't even need to do this meeting. I'm going to Washington.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Right Wait what that's what he.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Told me, my, that's he told me at my last meeting.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Probably that should have been a red flag. It should
have been a red flag.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But that also would pump you up, would not like like,
well then then the prop me up?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Hell yeah, you know, I mean then in the moment,
I was like, yeah, of course, that's what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Look, I'm being all literal to the dude. I was like, look,
I don't want to get in trouble, and I don't.
I don't want to get in between any of you guys,
is like your ownerships, like kind of like beefs or
anything like that. I don't want to get arrested. But
I mean, if you really want me to do it,
you know that. We started laughing.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
But I can't.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
But that kind the first sign, by the way, that
was the first and that was first red flag. But
and you don't know it. You don't realize, like, dang,
this dude is crazy. In the moment, you're like, oh, man,
like this dude's like he loves me this, that and
the other. He thinks like this that you're the most
awesome person in the world to die, this, that and
the other. And I'm coming here, right So I go
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back to Cleveland. I tell Cleveland you got to pay
me quarterback money. If you don't pay me somewhere around fourteen. Look,
fourteen guaranteed. Is that crazy? I'll pay me something like
fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm not I can't. I can't do.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It, like we can't do it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And they were like, yeah, we're not going to give
you that, and so I was like, well, I'm gonna
stay firm on fourteen, and they went and got Courtney.
Courtney's agent was like, well, what is he asking for.
I went to Courtney. I told Corty, I said, don't
negotiate with them, just tell them your number, cause I'm
they've clearly established that they're talking to me and him,
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which is unique, you know, because me and him were
going to be the first my teammate went first overall
in that draft, so that was pretty cool. So we're
on the phone and I'm telling him like, I'm not
going to negotiate with him no more, so push it
up as high as you can.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
So then once they found out, Vinnie Serrado was calling
my agent's like, look, man, Dan told me, if he's
not signable, we want them. We want to take him
at too, but we will take them at three if
we have to, just to kind of, you know, kind
of knock it down just a little bit, make it
more negotiable. So you got to be negotiable at too.
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So they were negotiating against their third pick as well.
In the scenario, So it was interesting. It was an
interesting experience. But yeah, that that was kind of how
it went for me. And I had a baby on
the way, Keno. Keno was in the in the oven
and he was cooking up. So I had a pregnant
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ass baby mama on my hands at that time. Well
I loved her at the time. She was my fiance
at the time. But you know, different story now. But
part of the koyfish, I mean, she didn't make it.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
She didn't make it.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
So and them koy fish aq aq them coyfish didn't
deserve to go.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
She did anyway. I got to throw that out there too,
by the way. Hell and she didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Deserve to be there, but my son did even though
he wasn't here. So I don't know how that one works,
But to that point, there were a lot of people
that were supposed to be there and we had a really,
really good time.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
But I just they had more fun than I did,
and I thought that was pretty cool. Like, my uncles
are the reason why I played ball and played the
way that I did. I patterned myself after Westinghouse, which
was a super City City League school. My uncles played there.
They were super super fire dudes, and you know, they
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just never were they could make it to that that level.
Didn't make it to that level, I should say. And
and so for them to have the opportunity to live
it out, it was pretty That was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So it's like a wedding, if it's your wedding.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
More people, it's kind of like a wedding, yeah, or
a funerals, whichever one you want to call it. Who geez,
I was a funeral for me. I ain't know it
was a funeral, they said. When they called my name,
they just been like dead man walking.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Bears all look the same.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The reality is and this is where I feel like
a lot of young men.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
A lot of young men are more prepared for this
now than ever because the process they've already been introduced
to negotiations, they've already had some sort of professional formality
to actually playing football in college. A lot of these
guys have been getting paid, so it probably feels a
bit different.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
When you go d one that it wasn't in a
way a step or part of the dream coming true.
But now you're getting paid on top of that too,
in some cases millions of dollars for some of these
college kids. And I do wonder if that wears off
the luster of it a bit, because you know, I
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remember the days of being in zomb hall and scrounging
it together, change to go get a piece of pizza
in her basement so I could have dinner that night.
Like I remember some of the different struggles that you
have as a college student when you work a job
and you're trying to manage it and you're trying to
have enough cash or money because the dining hall is
closed by the time I got done with practice and
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treatment and then watching film and bringing stuff down preparing
for the next day, and then had to go to
study hall like there was no time.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
And so I remember all those things.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think back to just how much of a rejoice
it was to be able to then be able to
do it as a pro and not have some of
the burdens that came along with that. I shouldn't say burdens,
but the responsibilities that came along with that. So in
one way, like I do wonder if draft Day feels
the same for these guys. When I mean think about
Bryce leunder with a kid in Michigan. He's just supposed
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we signed a deal of twelve million, Like does it?
I mean, it's more money.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It feels great. It's again another step.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But you're making money now, like real money as walking
as a freshman.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And one of the things that I wanted to bring
up that I was reading about the draft and some
of the things, and I don't know if it was
this might even Jay Glazer who put this out there,
who LeVar you will be working with tonight a PM
Eastern time NFL Draft covers. Don't look anywhere else tween Fox,
don'twhere LeVar, Joe.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Douglas, Jay Glaizer, Jenny Tapp, they got you covered.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, But I wanted to point out that medical we've
always known there's some teams that just take a guy
off the board because they don't feel like he'll be
able to do it. There's character, which is another thing
right off the field issues they.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Just feel like he's a dirt bag.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And then there's a third thing they've brought up that
they don't love football. And he said there's a number
of players now that they don't know what exactly to
attribute it to. But they do feel like this nil
era of college football player has led now to this
point of are they doing it for the money or football?
If they really don't love football, We're not sure we
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want to draft them. They're not on our board because
we for this guy is not really about what this
game takes, what it's about.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I mean, you do.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I do wonder how many players now their goal is
to go to the NFL or their goal is, man,
if I can get to college and it's a good
spot and I can make a little bit of money,
maybe I can look elsewhere. It's not the end all
be all like it used to be.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, but it's still I mean, more often than not,
it's still about trying to get to the money. The
money represents a landing place, a destination for you know,
most guys who didn't grow up with money or grew
up even with the structure and conversations that help you
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understand what having a job or you know, what that
looked like, you know, being in the real world, didn't
have all of that, that guidance, I mean, that was
that was it. So you know, guys can say, well,
I love the game, but if you were to say, well,
what's the motivation, They'll say, oh, to take care of
my mother, or to take care of you know, my
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baby sister or whatever everybody has there, you know, the chickens. Yeah,
everybody will come up with, you know, what has driven
them and what has taken them to you know that point. So,
I mean, you're going to find out if they love
the game once you start paying them, So I guess
it'd be good to figure it out. I guess, all right, well,
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do you love the game because you're making money in college?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I mean, that's an interesting you know, that's an interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Category to start judging players off of, because I think
people would be lying if they said that they have
the idea of making a seventh figure having a seven
figure job or even a high six figure job coming
out of college and you were able to earn it
and play for it doing it on the field. I mean,
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I think people would be lying. Too many, too many,
not too many people would say, I don't do it
for the money. I don't do it for it just
the pure love of the game. I mean, some of
that that motivation as to why people played away they
play is to get to the money. So I mean,
Jerry Maguire said it best. You know, Tom Cruise said
it best, like show me the money, and that was
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based off of getting what he got a new deal
that wasn't a draft.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
But I mean, there he goes Cuba Gooding Junior, who
was well to see the money the quand it was
it was Cuba the kwand yeah, yeah, I don't know though,
but so.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Hold on, hold on. How much were you offered? You
said you're off in thirteen or fourteen?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I told him I won at fourteen. I ended up
with ten. I ended up at Okay. So think about that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Bryce Underwood, the freshman quarterback in Michigan, is getting twelve
or more supposedly on his way in college.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
There you go that, I mean that' take away some
of the edge. Yes, one hundred, that'll take away some
of the edge.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And I do I do wonder like at what point
will it stop? Because college football is an expanding sport
and landscape. The ratings have continually gone up and the
media rights have continually gone up, like this thing's only
going to go up for the foreseeable future. And I
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just it's crazy to think what these guys are gonna
cost or what they'll be making, I guess, is the
other way of putting it, and that doesn't include like
what other marketing gets involved.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, it's it's gonna be wild and.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
The whole eligibility but with the settlement, as far as
you know what the requirement's going to be is going
to be you have to play five years.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
To play four.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Are they gonna get rid of the eligibility rules altogether
where guys can play for five six years? I mean,
think about that. There's a realistic scenario where the eligibility
rules are going to be challenged and this will almost
feel like a minor league to the NFL, and it
might feel like more comparable at some schools like Texas,
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Ohio State, maybe Michigan, teams of deep pockets, Penn State,
I don't know how deep the pockets are, maybe Penn State, Georgia,
a Bama. These schools they might be able to We're
not gonna have a salary cap of you know, two
hundred million, at least not now. But if we're being real,
Ohio State's is over twenty last year and it's only
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gonna build from there. Now we've got Kurt Signetti saying
some teams are paying forty they've got a roster of
forty million. Some are closer to you know, past that.
So that's so it's doubled in one year's time. Like
that means it's gonna get there by twenty thirty if
it keeps growing.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
At the rate it's growing.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Twelve million and twelve million, that's is that the most
that a quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Getting or on his on his way in?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But right now, I mean you you would presumably say
sixteen would be the most over four years, because I
believe Beck's getting four and Nico wanted four, and the
average supposedly based on a data opened the doors.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Is over three.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So do the math on that, man, Like more guys
are getting that too. That's just a that's a freshman
who's ever played before. Brock Party's made two point eight
in his career. He went to a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, Nico I Amaliaba has made more during his time
at Tennessee than brock Purty has so far as the
NFL career.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
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Speaker 4 (22:39):
This top ten.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
No takes time for Brady quinn explosive mock draft.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And it starts with number one.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
The number one.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeh uh, probably the worst kept secret. Tennessee Titans who
are looking for a quarterback. They're in the position to
take the best quarterback. Did they field calls for the
number one overall pick? You bet they did. Did they
answer any or actually pick up and say, oh, yeah, well,
maybe think about doing that with you?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Of course not.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's the Tennessee Titans taking quarterback cam Ward out of
the University of Miami formerly of Washington State, formerlya of.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Incarnate word, the record setting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
It doesn't bother them that he only played the first
half of the bowl game just because he wanted to
set the record and then let his team go ahead
and get beat in the end. A lot of people
at Miami Modeste and half in that one, they were
not excited about that. That being said, cam Ward the
best quarterback in this draft class according to many. He
goes to the Tennessee Titans to try to turn around
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that franchise with the first overall pick oh.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Number two at number two.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Now, explain some about this draft. This is not what
I think they're going to do. It's not necessarily what
I would do if I was in their position, although
it's more that than it is anything else.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
This is partially too as far as how I see
the prospects.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
So a number two, the Cleveland Browns are selecting a
guy that I think would be a menace for opponents
and a guy where you put him opposite of Miles Garrett.
It creates a tandem that's going to be called sack City.
And I'm not talking about Jonas's old stopping Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Abdul Carter, the.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Edge rusher at a Penn State university. You pair him
with Miles Garrett. It is a lethal combination. I know
what the odds say. I know they say to take
Travis Hunter. They could play him as a wide receiver.
Maybe that's where Cleveland sees them. I see him more
as a cornerback. I think you can mix him in
his wide receiver. That's where you get the most out
of him. And it doesn't make sense for a fit
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for Cleveland if you be playing a corner back. Abdull
Carter he's sure as heck does. So I've got Abdull.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Carter going number two overall to the Cleveland Browns. Number
three shaked up at number three comes in a player
who with his versatility, with his star power, his ability
to impact both sides of the football, makes the most
sense for a team who's looking for that sort of
dynamic playmaker, and that's Travis Hunter, the wide receiver quarterback
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out of the University of Colorado.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
He goes to the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He provides a weapon now only for Russell Wilson or
Jamis Winston, but also a cornerback who can help improve
that defense. So Travis Hunter makes the most sense here.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
In my mind.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Number four, at number four, it stays Chockey the New
England Patriots new head coach Mike Rabel. You know he
loves the trenches and that's where he's going to go
here with one of the best tackles in the draft
in Will Campbell. It's a need for this team. They
got to protect their quarterback Drake may who was under
dressed way too much last year. Will Campbell is the
guy that I really like in this spot as far
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as his attitude, his demeanor, high level of play. I
could care less about his short arms. I don't think
Mike Brabel does either, So Will Campbell's the pick here
out of LCU at tackle for New England. Number five
at number five, we've seen a lot of momentum for
this and I think it makes sense too to add
a playmaker to help out take the pressure off Trevor
Lawrence's shoulders, and that's Ashton Genty. He's the best running
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back in this draft class. He can really do it all,
and I think he adds a boost to an offense
that's tried to rely too much on Lawrence to carry them.
Travis Etena's battle some health issues, and even then, you
know you don't have to necessarily throw Ashton genty into
the fire right away. He can slowly work his way in,
as he did have a bunch of carries his final
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year at Boise State. But Ashton Genty, the home run
hitting running back out of Boise State, goes.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Number five overall.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Number six, Las Vegas needs some help on the offensive line,
and this is where I feel like the loss of
leguas Raiders who are going to try to build through
the trenches. When you look at Spy deck to their
general manager who they've brought in.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He's typically done this in the past, and this is
where I.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Feel like they lean on one of the other better
tackles that's available in this spot. Armand Membo out of
Missouri makes a lot of sense in this pick to
shure up the protection.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
For Las Vegas moving forward.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So I've got Armin Membo going number six o goal
to help protect.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Gino Smith number seven.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
This is one where I'm just drafting because I love
the player and I feel like he's a he's versatile,
he could do a bunch of things.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
He's a playmaker for them, and.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I think the Jets are going to need a little
bit of that with justin fields to take.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
The pressure off.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's why I've got him taking Penn State's tight end
Tyler Warren number seven. Overall, you can make the case
for some other positions here. I just feel like eventually,
given again his versatility, his ability to catch, his ability
to run the football and do a bunch of different things,
is going to be a guy that I think you
look even in short yard in situations. We know about
the touch push, I don't know that you even need
that with Tyler Warren. You just need the guy who
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can go into a quarterback sneak like he can, and
so he could do a bunch of different things for
this roster that I think helps take some of the
pressure off of what is presumed to be their starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
In justin fields this.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Year number eight trade alert Alert.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Alert, Oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
The New Orleans Saints at number nine have been getting
calls about teams trying to trade up with him, and
they've got a specific player in mind, so they called
up to reassure themselves they would be able to get
this player by trading up one spot with the Carolina Panthers,
since they didn't want to get leaped frog like we
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saw in last year's draft where the Las Vegas Raiders found.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Themselves without a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So number nine, the New Orleans Saints trade up to
the number eight overall spot with the Carolina Panthers. That
the trade exchange is this the Panthers, they traded to
move back one spot to the number nine overall pick,
and they also get pick one to twelve, a fourth
round pick that moves them back and gives them an
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opportunity to still pick them.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Another quality player.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
The Saints then select quarterback Jackson Dart out of ol Miss.
It feels like there's a lot of momentum building potentially
some people have talked about them taking them, trading back
up into.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
The first round to take them. Why risk that chance?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Instead, they go ahead and get the future quarterback and
Jackson Dart out of Old Miss here at the.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Number eight spot.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Number nine, and this is where the Carolina Panthers now
slide back a spot to take a player who I
think is going to impact them off of the edge.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
They gave up Bryan Burns. They need to replace that.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It's gonna be Mickel Williams, the edge defender out of Georgia.
Makes a lot of sense for some of the needs
that Carolina has here. He's that next guy kind of
up and I think it makes again sense for a
team that needs to help him prove their defense. Number
ten and finally number ten, the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
This pick is a bit of a need, I think
for the Bears, but.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Also a player that I absolutely love, and I think
there's a lot of people who love him more than
people want to admit and I wouldn't be shocked if
he doesn't go off before this. But Josh Simmons, the
tackle out of Ohio State. He can play outside, he
can play inside. He is to me one of the
more smooth operators at the tackle position, really on the
offensive line in general. I think the world of him.
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I think he makes a lot of sense for protecting
Caleb Williams and for Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You go back to his time in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
They build up that offensive line through the draft continually
went time and time again. I think it's a no
brainer here they go with an offensive lineman, my guy,
Josh Simmons, That's who I'd go with here.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Outstanding. Yeah, I got questions. Most difficult to decision in
your top ten that made you go back and forth thinking,
I don't know if I want to go with that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Probably the New Orleans Saints and trading and then also
taking a quarterback. I think you could make a case
for the de tackle out of Old miss There. They've
got a need there. There's there's edge that you know,
they could take Jalen Walker, they could take Mike kil Williams.
That was that whole entire situation, the trade. Who Carolina took,
who New Orleans is going to take in that case.
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But the reality is. I don't know that we're going
to see a ton of trades. I feel like teams
are somewhat sloughted where they're at. We saw a report
yesterday about basically the asking price being seventy cents on
the dollar. And in the trade scenario I presented, going
based off the draft value chart, it's fifty points difference
to go from number nine to number eight. And so
the value of the one hundred and twelfth pick overall,
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which is the fourth round pick that in this scenario
that I gave up, was seventy points.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
So it kind of sweetens the pot a bit.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I think for Carolina to move back one spot knowing
they're going to get a four round pick that's just
outside of the top one hundred.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
How confident are you on this list?
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Like?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
How again?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Not not confident at all because my number two pick
goes completely against the draft odds, which which you know,
again it doesn't always mean that's how the draft's gonna work.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
We've seen it change before.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
But and this is what it should be.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Well think about it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I mean, you don't think Miles Garrett across from abdoor
Carter makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
That's why i'm as because I want you to look
at that Brady Quinn reasoning so I can feel confident
that you know, because I feel the same way.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
If you look at the Giants, the Giants don't make
any sense unless you're gonna play him off the ball,
which you'd probably go more Jalen Walker in that case.
He's got a little bit more experience doing that. But
also they've got Brian Burns, who really they don't have
an out in that contract until after twenty twenty six,
and Kevon Thibbodeau's still in his rookie deal.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
So I just don't see.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Any scenario where they're going to take Abdul Carter and
then keep all three. So maybe the Giants have something
else planned, But in this case, I would think that
they would take someone who can impact their roster at
the wide receivers spot, which they need, but also help
them out on defense and also be you know, a superstar.
I think Travis Hunter would make more sense with the Giants,
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and Abdul Carter makes more sense.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
With the Browns.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It does interesting when you break it down like that
make more sense, and if you're looking to take advantage
of that DraftKings right now, Abduall Carter going number two
is plus six point fifty and Travis Hunter going three
is plus seven hundred, So if this plays out, you can.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Make a little bit of coin on that.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
If you want to bet two and three on DraftKings.
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lead content strategist MMPBAT was in draft today, said uber
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Breer ab Happy Draft Day. How are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
We made it?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
We made it, guys. I get all this information rattling
around in my head that's going to be mostly worthless
in three days. So let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What's the most interesting thing you've heard in the last
few hours about a potential surprise in the first round.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Yeah, I think it's like I think, just it's going
to be a really unpredictable first round, you know, Like
I I you know, I look at like Kat McMillan,
for example, and I could see him going five to Jacksonville,
eleven to San Francisco. I could see him falling the
Green Bay at twenty three or the Rams at twenty six.
Like I could see, you know, I could see Matthew
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Golden going twelve to the Cowboys, or maybe like fiving
all the way to the bottom of the first round,
you know, like Josh Simmons, like could he go to
the Ravens, could he go to the Chiefs? Could he
fall out of the first round. It's just there's such
a huge variants for so many of these players, you know,
And I think that's kind of the exciting thing about
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tonight is like once we get through the first few picks,
there's going to be a fair amount of of of
unpredictability and volatility. I mean, I think the first three
go chok. I think the first four go chok. I
think I think you're you're going to see it where
it's you know, where it's it's it's War to the Titans,
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Hunter to the Browns, Carter to the Giants, Campbell to
the Patriots. And then I think there's a chance all
hell breaks loose, you know, and I think Ashon genty
goes there. I feel pretty confident the tackles. The next
two tackles, Banks and Membo don't fall very far. But
other than that, like I you know, I think this
thing is really really volatile where there are a lot
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of guys in the first round that have like a
fifteen to twenty pick range in where they could go.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I guess that or we've been looking at his over
under and in regards to.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
His draft position, it's been bouncing all around the first round.
Does he get drafted tonight? And if if you say
he's going to like a percentage chance that he does,
or percentage chance he drops out in the second round.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
So this is like a tricky one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I think.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I don't think he's gonna go third overall. I don't
think he's going ninth overall. I think if he goes,
if he does not go twenty first to the Steelers,
I think there's a good chance he falls out of
the first round. Now somebody could come back in and
get him. The hard thing is the hard part for me, guys,
I'm just having a hard time finding a team that
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I can connect him to, you know, And that sometimes
to me can be a sign of like a guy falling.
And you know, I like, for example, like Jackson Dart,
like I've heard you know, Jackson has had a lot
of one on one time with with Brian daveall built
a good relationship there. I heard the Saints like him too,
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Tyler Shuck. I've heard that the the Kevin Stefanski you
know has has really taken a liking to him, and
and the Browns could get him in a second round.
Jalen Milroe, like the Steelers have had a good experience
getting to know Jalen Milroe. I'm just having a harder
time with schedule or just as far as finding a
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team to connect him to. Now that might mean nothing,
you know what I mean, It only takes one And
I would have told you last year, like and I've
used this comparison a few times with you guys like oh,
bo Nicks could easily fall out of the first round,
it didn't matter because there was one team that loved him.
And Sean Payton thinks his own way and doesn't care
what anyone else thinks, and he took him at twelve.
And the guy Damn Near who was Rookie of the
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Year second behind behind Jayden Daniels who had a historic season.
You know, so I don't know it is the best answer,
Like I I think he can go twenty one to
the Steelers, but if he doesn't buckle up, you know,
I think there's a chance he falls out of the
first round.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I'm glad you mentioned the Steelers because that was the
first thing that popped in my head when you say
a hard time connecting a team. Why is it hard
to connect the Steelers with Shador Sanders? And then my
second question is, well, let me add this to it.
Do we see something happen with Aaron Rodgers if something
doesn't happen with with the Steelers getting a quarterback?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
So here's that's like sort of the moving parts that
are that are at play here, LeVar.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I just so.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
But here's the thing is like, if they do feel
like they're gonna wind up with Aaron Rodgers, and I
honestly think they're not sure right now, but like if
they do feel like, you know, we're gonna we got
a good chance to wind up with Aaron Rodgers. And
then you look at the makeup of their team. Right
in their makeup of their team, they've got you know, TJ.
Watt At going going on thirty one, they got to
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make it fits Patrick going on twenty nine. They got
DK metcalf A on a on a third contract. They
have a young group of offensive linemen that are also
on the rookie deals that are coming together, Like they
really really feels like they're in a sweet spot right now,
or if they're going to win with this group of players,
it's got to be now. If you feel confident that
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you're going to wind up with Aaron Rodgers, can you
afford to have the twenty first pick in the draft
be somebody that's not going to play for you this year?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know?
Speaker 7 (40:29):
And if they get Rogers should do or won't play
for them this year, you know. So I think that's
part of the equation for them as well. And you know,
somebody mentioned this to me last night, and I thought
this was sort of interesting. This is a coach who
knows that plays pretty well. He said, I think they're
spooked by what happened with Kenny Picket, you know, and
like with shaud Or, you might get shades of Kenny
Picket a little bit, where the guy won in college,
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but you know, like physically it's just not overwhelming. You know.
You don't see like he's a good athlete, not a
great athlete. He doesn't have great arm talent, Like, are
the Steelers affected by that to some degree? It's I
think it's a complicated situation. So we'll see what happens.
But I certainly think that I certainly think that that,
you know, he could go to the Steelers, and if
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he doesn't, like there are pretty solid reasons.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Why Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on x at Albert Breer. This is a
little bit of a two part question for you, Abe.
But if there is a trade into the top ten,
who are the teams involved and who's the player they're targeting.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
So two teams I heard going up are Denver and
Houston that could go up. If it's if it's Denver,
like I think it's for Ashton Gent. If Houston goes up,
I would say it's for an offensive lineman. I just
don't know that they're going to go all the way
up like that. Like the Texans do have an extra
third round pick, but they're a little light on Day three,
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and so, like you know, I think I think if
it's like a it would have to be like a
Kelvin Banks or somebody like that, who I have going
six to the Raiders. But you have to be like
a Banks or someone like that starting to slide into
the teams. I just don't know that they have the
firepower to get up into the top ten. And so
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you know, I would say I would say Denver would
be a team to watch to go into the top ten.
And then if there's movement within the top ten, maybe
a Chicago or somebody like that. I think Genty is
the player that somebody's going up for. Here's the reason why.
I think, because Pat, when you get when you get
past Hunter and Carter, you're looking at will Campbell and
armand Membu and Calvin Banks. See, yeah, the good players.
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Is any Are any of those guys ever going to
be a top ten tackle? Maybe not right? You know,
Jalen Walker, mikeel Williams. Are they going to be among
the ten best pass rushers in football? Maybe not? And
then you look at Genty and I think it's easy
to look at Genty and say this could be one
of the three or four best bats in football really quickly,
you know. And so I think that that's why Jen
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He's kind of the one that some teams are looking
at and saying, if we can get a discount to
go up in the top ten or go up within
the top ten. It's cheaper than it normally wouldn't be
because teams are so desperate to move down. Maybe this
is a player that we take advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
For Hey, you mentioned Josh Shimmons attackle out of Ohio State,
essentially dropping.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
He's a guy that I love his tape below his film.
Is that more injury related?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Because when I when I watch him, I think he's
as talented as any of them.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's two things. I
think it's Andrew. I think his character and I don't
think it's like a bad guy character Brady. I think
it's more. You know, I think like when I hear
people could like talk about him from a character standpoint,
it sort of reminds me of the way that people
talked about Dez Bryant, you know, when he was coming
out in twenty ten, where it's just you know, Dez
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had them growing up to do. I think Dez needed
like handholding, you know, to some degree, and you know,
like des was somebody I remember when he was coming
out it was like, you know, it would really be
good for him if he went to the right kind
of place, like he went to a place that was
established with veterans around him. I think that's, you know,
sort of what Josh Simmons needs, which might be why
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some of the teams that aren't as established might be
scared away a little bit more by him. But I
don't think he's a bad kid by any measures. Like
I think he's you know, I think he's a from
everything I understand, a good kid. Now that the injury
is not a non factor because you know, you got
a a a tel attendant with a big man like
that's that's a tough injury to come back from. So
like I think you have to be comfortable with red
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shirting him, which is another element to it. So you know,
that's why I look at it, and I could see
Baltimore taking him, you know, they're in the twenties. I
could see Kansas City taking him at thirty one, Like
I think, you know, as teams that have you know,
a strong established culture where if they have to red
shirt him, it's not the end of the world, you know,
because coming back from that injury isn't going to be easy,
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at least in year one.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Maybe there's been a lot of kind of discussions in
terms of the number one overall pick and it being
a foregone conclusion that it's cam Ward and I get
all of that, but has there been a lot of
like kind of internally from your perspective, conversations debating the
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fact that maybe this is that one time where you say, Okay,
we get it. It's a quarterback and we need a quarterback.
And there's that whole idea of trying to find a
franchise quarterback. But is there any real pushback right now
that would lend to the idea that maybe Tennessee would
be better off going with a more bona fide contributor
(45:45):
right away than taking a player that maybe doesn't necessarily
grade out like you would want to grade out for
that number one overall pick. Oh yeah, that's because of
the position.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I will best Definitely that definitely exists,
like this feeling that you know, cam Wore got pushed
up a little bit because he is a quarterback. And yeah,
I will say this, like you know, I I I
did a lot of work on the quarterbacks just talking
to you know, coach, And again, like I would say
this to you guys, this cant of yet I'm not
a scout, you know, but I I like I talked
(46:18):
to a lot of people over the last couple of
weeks specific Yeah, thanks Brady, I appreciate you emphasizing that
over the over the last, over the last, and like
one thing that seems like pretty like it's a pretty
strong consensus is that that Cam is the best one
in this class. And you know, I just think if
(46:41):
you're the.
Speaker 11 (46:41):
Titans, I get it, Like this is a guy where
you you look at it and say, if you can
build a good environment around him and you can give
him support early on because it looks like they're going
to play him right.
Speaker 7 (46:53):
There's still some rawness to his game, but he has
the highest ceiling, you know. And again, if you're like
looking up at like that Mount everest of quarterbacks in
the AFC, where it's God, we're gonna have we may
have to go through three of these guys chip to
make it to a super Bowl, and you're looking at
Burrow and and Lamar and and Alan and Mahomes and
then you know, just after those four, the Big Four,
(47:14):
you know you got you know, your C. J. Strouds,
your TREVORL. Lawrence is R. Drake mays. You know these
guys that could that could elevate, you know, I think
Cam Moore is the guy because you know, he's the
one where it's like you can actually, you know, close
your eyes and envision that, like you can envision it
with the physical traits that he has that maybe he
eventually gets there. I think it's harder to do it
(47:36):
with the other quarterbacks in the class.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
AB before we let you go, you got a bold prediction.
You got something bold off the off the radar that
maybe you know not a lot of people have that
you're calling your shot on.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
I mean, I I don't know, I got I There's
a lot of stuff out there, you know. I think,
like I mentioned McMillan, right, I mean I think like
one real shot an there would be like McMillan going
eleven to the Niners, which like it sounds crazy, but
(48:08):
like you know, they are where they are with Brandon
and Yuk right now coming back off the A C L.
Juwan Jennings is in the contract year. They have Ricky
pearsall coming back. So look at the idea is we
want to be really good around brock party. I could
see that happening. I also think these connections really make
these these connections are really important, you know what I mean.
(48:29):
And there's a connection there with Tech McMillan's college coach
for two years and Jed Fish, who you know was
a disciple of Mike Shanahan's.
Speaker 6 (48:39):
You know.
Speaker 7 (48:39):
The other one is like I think at the Giants
take a quarterback tonight, I think it's going to be
Jackson Dart. And this is another one where there are connections. Now,
I mentioned Dave All spent a lot of time with
with Jackson Dart over the last couple of months. Jackson Dart,
the people in in in in Oxford talk very very
(49:00):
ali him and his offensive coordinator is Charlie Weiss junior. Okay,
who is David Brady, Who's Brian dave All's mentor.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
I mean Charlie Weiss is one of them.
Speaker 7 (49:13):
Yeah, Charlie Weiss is one of them. Right, So there's
just like that, like I think the Giants have gotten
outstanding information on Jackson Dart and I think, you know,
and I've talked to Charlie. Charlie loves loves, loves, loves,
loves loves Jackson dares He'll and he'll tell you that
and he'll and he'll tell you everybody's got it wrong
on this kid. So you know, I think that the
(49:36):
Giants that they take a quarterback tonight, I'm gonna just
say I would think it'll be Jackson dar.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Hey, Albert, real quick, I did want to ask you
this before I let you go. We noticed, like only
fifteen guys are going to this year's draft. Some guys
have actually decided not to attend in Green Bay that
originally had committed to. Do you see a world where
they have to incentivize and pay these players to go.
It feels like we're living in a world now we
have to pay these young men to do anything. Is
(50:05):
that maybe gonna happen in the future in your mind?
Speaker 7 (50:08):
I mean, we've talked about that with a combine, right too,
Like I mean, I like where you have to tay
as the top guys to come to the combine.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Now to that point, I just saw a lists two.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
By the way, there's like ten prospects who not even
injury I related, haven't done anything like, did not know
any measurables from combine pro day nothing, which is yeah,
I mean too.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
It's a Marvin Harrison effect, right, Like I mean Marvin,
and I think Marvin was different, like you know what
I mean, Like I think, so I think that this
is going to evolve over time, Brady, Right, Like I
think for these guys it's going to be like try
starting to think about it differently, and like, I think
that that's going to evolve and mature over time. Like
there's a guy who I would tell you made a
(50:51):
mistake not running. That's Will Johnson from Michigan.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Right.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
I think he's a really good player, really really good player,
but there's a perception that you and have good long speed.
So he doesn't run at this pro day that he
does in April. And you know, I had a team
tell me, like, if I think you're four to six
and then you don't run, it basically confirms to me
yere four six, you know. And like if Will Johnson
was the consensus number one corner in the class and
(51:17):
he was definitely going to go top ten, I would
advise him not to run. But if he wasn't that
you know what I mean. Like, So, like I think
that there are different answers for different kids. And it's
not just well, you have to run at some point anymore.
I think it's well, I got to weigh this, and
I got a weigh like if I have a bad
day or if I if I slip coming out of
(51:37):
my start, like how that could cost me? You know.
I just think there's going to be much more of
a cost benefit analysis on all of these things with
a lot of these guys. That includes working out, and
I think that even includes, you know, things like attending
the drafts, Like I mean, there's probably going to be
a way to make money off of doing the drafts
at your house now right like you could probably I mean,
I don't know, would under armour come over and and
(51:59):
and deck out your living room with with uh with
all kinds of stuff like that, you know, turns it
into into something else. There's just stuff like that I
think you're going to be able to do in the
future that's gonna you know, make these business decisions for
all the players, which I don't think necessarily is the
most horrible thing in the world.
Speaker 11 (52:18):
A B.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
We appreciate a good study again.
Speaker 7 (52:20):
Brady Brady. Brady Brady, I would say, like it's I
think there's going to be competition for the kid. Like
when your first question you asked about like are they
gonna have to pay him to come. Like I think
that sort of competition could wind up, could wind up
existing for the player's time on Draft night in the future.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
I can see that get him on X at Albert Breer.
We'll be watching, we'll be following along. Thanks so much,
A B. We appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (52:44):
I think that
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