April 25, 2025 • 52 mins
It’s a Football Friday and 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe and the guys recap Day 1 of the Draft, highlighted by the Jags trading up for Travis Hunter. Jonas Knox delivers his Not So Explosive Bottom 10 Mock Draft! And The Old P, Petros Papadakis reflects on the spectacle in Green Bay, running backs in the Draft and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And it is a round one of the Draft recap
day here on the show, A uh, listen, fell a
little bit chalky up until the Jacksonville Jaguars decided, you
know what we really like Travis Hunter, let's.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Go ahead and make a swap with Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
But I mean, what pick was that number?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, well it was chalky going into the draft. People
felt like it was in you know, we kind of
had a clear understanding that.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
It was chalky in the sense of the guys who
went went to three four, All went went to three four.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Who you thought.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I thought the biggest surprise was, yes, Jacksonville trading up
in Cleveland trading back to five. But then kind of
who Cleveland took at five. I did not think they're
gonna take Mason Graham, the de tackle out of Michigan.
I thought, again, not gonna be critical. I'm not one
who likes to sit here. And the next day after go, oh,
(01:14):
let's let's grade the draft. Let's give our ABC. That's
what Pete Prisco does, all right, because we'll leave that
to Pete, but that was not one of my favorite
moves for the Cleveland Browns. I kept thinking in my head,
if you could have a player like Travis Hunter, who
you heard James Gladstone, the general manager for the Jaguars,
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talk about, you know, his versatility, he's deserving him a
first round pick as a wide receiver or cornerback if
you could have had him. But instead you trade back
just to get some more picks and then take a
player in Mason Graham, who's a good player. I don't
I didn't watch him this past year, over the past
couple of years and feel like he was as good
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as you know as a de tackle was maybe some
others thought. I just I felt like, I don't know,
it wasn't as helpful. And one of the reasons during
my mock draft, I was like, it didn't make sense
for Travis Hunter to go to Cleveland and maybe this
is the thought is because they didn't really need him
as much. They maybe they need more defensive line help.
(02:17):
I still thought at that pick stayed there to take
ab Dul Carter, Like that's the thing that really surprised
me the most about it was you trade out of it,
not only do don't take Travis Hunter, you don't take
ab Duel Carter. And yes, maybe you get more of
a need in Mason Graham, but I don't think he's
to the caliber of either of those two players I
just mentioned.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
I think being with the guys last evening, I believe
the consensus was this is them trying to commit to
a rebuild and build through the draft. I think the
compensation of the pick, the trade out of the pick
would would say that, you know, them trying to gather
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more draft stock, more draft capital to try to build
the team. And you know, for for whatever, you know,
for whatever it's worth. You know, I don't think Mason
Graham for Cleveland with that defensive front. They definitely upgraded
their defensive front bringing him in. Do I agree with
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you they should? I mean take the best available, Like
you're a team that if you get an Abdul Carter,
you have a premiere pass rush unit in the National
Football League. If if Abdul Carter proves out to be
what people are projecting him to be, again it continues
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to be with Cleveland that that continues to be kind
of a head scratcher, and and you kind of ask yourself. Okay,
well it was a I believe it was a safe pick.
I thought a lot of these teams played it safe
with you know, going with linemen, not going with There
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just wasn't very many skill players that were were taken,
and and so to me, it's it's, you know, more
or less kind of I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I I just I wasn't.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I wasn't overwhelmed by a lot of a lot of
the picks. I thought that that Travis Hunter going to
Jacksonville was it's a tremendous win for Jacksonville. But I
question is it a tremendous win for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I just don't. I don't like the market.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I thought, on the topic of Cleveland trading out and
then taking Mason Graham, I thought, okay, they moved a five.
If they're not taking gent, just trade back again, Like
if this is about the same thing, if this is
about building draft capital and building towards the future, like
let's let's just keep this train rolling and get as
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mini picks possible and try and recoup what you lost
in the awful Deshaun Watson trade that you made.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
And so and here what I was getting, what Jay
was saying, is nobody wanted to trade.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Body was trading.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Nobody, nobody was playing like there were a lot of
teams that were trying to trade from what I could gather,
and they nobody wanted to trade. Nope, we're not giving no,
you use your pick. Yeah, we don't want to cooperate
with you. Nope, nope, Yeah you got it. And I
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heard watching it happened like three or four times too,
by the way. People were trying to trade out like
they were trying hard as hell to trade, and nobody
wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Even with even with Genti still sitting there, like nobody
wanted to move.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Nobody wanted to move. Nobody was really moving.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The team that did make the move the Jacksonville Jaguars.
So James Gladstone, their GM, he's, you know, spent a
long time with the La Rams, and he spoke about
their decision to move up to take Travis Hunter at
number two.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I probably got some familiarity with.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
The them picks sort of process. So for our fans,
I'll tell you, don't be scared. This is something I'm
uniquely positioned to navigate. We ended up with jack We
ended up we ended up bringing Travis Hunter to Jacksonville,
and with that, he is somebody who is deserving of
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a first round draft pick as a wide receiver, and
he is worthy of a first round draft pick as
a corner. Certainly look forward to each of those elements
showing themselves over the next few years while he's under
his Rokie contract. But yeah, we're excited about just getting
him in the boat, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Man him and Liam com together.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's a quirky duo, douvoll.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It's it's one way of describing them. And it is
interesting to hear the strategy and the aggressiveness. You know.
I think you go back and look at the Los
Angeles Rams and how they've typically handled the first round
of the draft in the past. You know, they've been
a team that they haven't spent those draft picks. They've
used those first round draft picks to instead trade and
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go get verified current Pro Bowl talent in the NFL.
And I think if you look at that strategy, you'd say, Okay,
it's gonna hit your salary cap more, you know, if
you're to play this route. But when you're in a
window of we've got to go win now or we
want to try to win a super Bowl. Now, it's
not the worst strategy. So you know, he's looking at
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it saying, let's go find a guy we really love
and we want to build around. And that's worthy of that.
And I get that, like you get rewarded for going
and finding guys who could be difference makers. Hunter was
one of the you know, I would say four difference makers.
I I thought in this draft looking at it between him,
Abdul Carter, Ashton Genty, and Tyler Warren. Now the Chicago
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Bears pick a ten blew my mind. I just I
did not have Lovelin as high as as a tight end,
not saying he couldn't go in the first round, but
not as high as Tyler Warren and as far as
the different things Tyler Warren can do and his his versatility.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
So like what he falls to you, yeah, it looks
out great, didn't have.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
But I sit there and just go, man, like, there's
certain organizations that you look at and you just go, well,
why do they have a hard time getting getting themselves
out of a hole?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Well there you go, damn Well, I mean, I don't,
I don't, I don't disagree with it. I mean when
the Bears did it, I said, this is classic Beers.
I mean, Coleston is good.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
He is good.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I mean he he has, you know, strong receiving ability
as a tight end, runs pretty good routes.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But I mean Pete loves him.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Pete says he's the best tight end in the draft,
better than Tyler Warrence. So like what like there's the
recap on Pete's on CBS sports dot Com.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Pete Pete loved the pick, by.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
The way, real quick, just to peek in all of it.
So Pete grades I believe the first round. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Jonas of the NFL job, Yeah, then I don't know
who does it after that, but he did.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's a good job.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
So that's the thing is Pete does it for the
first round, and his explanation for the grades with each
one of the picks are so succinct. It's short, it's
to the point, it's sometimes maybe a sentence, a couple
of sentences, and then then you get this. Then you
get like from round two automward, it's like this deep
analysis someone running. Yeah, it's completely different. Like he doesn't
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feel like he needs to explain to you guys why
he gives a grade for what he gives. All right,
p just does whatever he wants.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You want me to read, ask you guys a question. No, no,
I don't hold let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I just want to read Pete Pete's analysis on Colston
Loveland in comparison to Tyler Warren.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
All right, First on Loveland from Pete Prisco. I love
this pick.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
For the Bears. He was my top tight end. He
was the best pass catcher of the tight ends. He
will fit perfectly into the Ben Johnson offense. Now to
Tyler Warren from Pete Prisco. This makes sense. Warren is
an all around tight end. He can do a lot
of things. The Colts needed an upgrade to make it
easier on their quarterbacks. He is a good football player,
but is he great at anything?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Dot dot dom.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Here's what I hear.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
They gave the comp with with Loveland to Tyler Eiffert,
which I thought was an accurate that's an accurate comp
But if you were to comp Tyler Warren, who are
you comping them with? I'm saying Kittle or Kelsey and
and that's not uh, that's not an over, that's not
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a reach. That's a real to me, I think it's
a real comp and and for what it's worth, I
think that Tyler Warren can block better than both both
the comps that that I gave with Damn, why am
I blanking on who I just said? I just gave
you guys Kittle and Kelsey Like he you know, he
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he can.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Block better than them. So to me, which one would
you rather have?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Would you rather have Eiffert or would you have rather
have Kelsey or or Kittle? Like that was that was
the question that was was circulating for me, I'd rather
have a more talented, gifted player and what it is
that they bring to the table. I think Iffert is
a really fine football player, really fine tight end for
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the Bengals. But I mean he doesn't move the needle
like like a Kelsey or a Kittle does. Like to me,
the future is how Kittle and Kelsey play the game,
and that's what you get in a Tyler Warren. And
so to me, I felt like it was an easy
It was an easy decision. If you're going with a
tight end early on, you should have been, you know,
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biting at the bit to get a hold of a
Tyler Warren. No shade to Loveland, because again I think
that Loveland is a fine football player, but great, you know,
I don't you know, that's I feel like that might
be a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I would actually go as far as saying, I don't
really see much of a comparison between Colston Loveland and
Tyler Eifert. I thought my Eifert was much more dynamic
the way nardam used him in their offense. I mean,
how they tried to isolate him one on one versus
pretty much anyone. You saw elements of that at Michigan,
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but that was more out of board, out of necessity,
because they didn't really have anyone at a wide receiver
that could do that. I mean, they were so poor
a wide receiver. They had to do some different things
with him to get him the ball, and even then
it was, you know, he was good, but not quite
as dynamic. I also think eifer was a little bigger,
better blocker as an inline tight end. So I understand
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the comp based on maybe some similarities, but I actually
think I, for given his athleticism, was a lot closer
to a Kelsey and so forth. It's just maybe he
didn't do a lot of those different things. I mean,
you're also talking about like a guy who was a
pro bowler who dealt with injuries. But the difference for
me is just and again, you have to look at
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the board and say, like, who do we feel like
our best players available? And I'm sure that's what Chicago
did on their draft board and how they evaluated it.
But I'm just like, there's not other places where you
felt like there was a need defensively to help improve
that side of the ball, or even offensive line. And
you know, there was a number of offensive linemen that
ended up going at some point, and I you know,
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Josh Simmons ends up going thirty second. He's a guy
I thought would be a great fit for them, And
I know, you know, talking to people last night, there
was character, character concerns besides the medical concerns. We hear
that about guys like Jayleen Carter. Oh, there's character concerns,
the how's Philly feeling about them after last year?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh, by the way, Breer brought that up with Simmons
as well too. What are the character concerns about him
that people are talking about?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
What does he I wouldn't know the specifics to it.
The times that we were around Ohio State. Never heard,
never saw anything like that. So you know, there's three things. Right.
There's medical that world not privy too. We just hear like, oh,
it's a medical issue, which he did have. Some of
that there was a concern with. And then there was
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this idea of character, whether it's off the field concern
for bad things or do I love football like that
they I shouldn't whether or not these players love football.
I don't know if he falls into either one of
those two categories. But from talking to some people last night,
there's that general label of some character concerns. So again
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I just I always think back and I laugh because
you know, Joel Klatt goes on a diet tribe last
night for defending Shador Sanders and the narratives and all stuff,
you know, and taking issue with it, which is great,
but he also is part of that, you know, and
people you know, you know at times do that and
and go after some of those narratives. So we got
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to be careful, right, we don't sound hypocritical when when
we're out there taking this grand stand for like the
narratives around a lot of these prospects. Well, okay, there's
different narratives in college football that it gets built up
then too, and sometimes you have a podcast or sometimes
you're you're on a show. It's part of that. So
my general point is this, I hate hearing it too
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clearly there's something going on though with a player, because
it wasn't just Breer saying it. It was other coaches
that I talked to in the NFL, uh you know,
at that position group that were telling me that last night.
So it was a bit surprising. But again I still
feel like, lovely will we can find for them? But
will he end up being the kind of game changing
tight end in Ben Johnson's offense in Chicago that they need.
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I don't know, Like, do you view him as Sam Laporta?
Do you feel me as those types? We'll have to
wait and see.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Will we hold Pete accountable for this? Is this going
to be our comp much like the Joe Burrow is
going to win multiple Super Bowls?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
We've got to go to Tyler.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Oh yeah, I will, Yeah, I certainly will. Certainly we
will certainly circle back.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Pete did give jo.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
U lets Unless Tyler doesn't prove out Pete. The only
way I leave it alone.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
By the way, Pete did give Josh Simmons an A
plus grade to the Kansas City Chief.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
So there's that, so real quick on the subject too.
By the way, with Pete, uh, can we can we
look through his grades and just hold this Lee if
you could, if you're there, just try to find some
things we can pick on a little bit, by the way,
like great, great Zabel for Seattle, does anyone draft more
obscure guys from smaller schools or out of the way
the John Schneider and the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It's great, I.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Mean something, it felt like you pushed out Pete Carroll
and Seattle. It's like it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's like, Yeah, the LeVar last night on the draft
coverage just says to Joe Douglas and Jay Glazer.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like, I got a question, what are the Seahawks doing?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's like, well, you know, they like they like the
linemen here, they like this. It's like, you know, it's
been kind of a kind of an interesting offseason for.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, strange.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Can I give you a thirty second though, like dissertation
as to why? And there's nothing against the small school guys,
all right, I understand there's some diamonds in the rough,
there's some guys who who show out. But can we
be real now, this in this day and age of
college football, where it's easier and easier to trans from
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a smaller school to get to a bigger school because
of the transfer portal, because of nil the cream of
the crop is mostly at some of the top schools mostly,
and probably now more than ever before. And I've always
had this theory that a lot of general managers and
towent evaluators and scouts they try to find these diamonds
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in the rough from smaller schools because they can kind
of stake their claim to that it's too it's too
easy to take. Hey, let's just take a bunch of
offensive linemen from Ohio State. Hey, let's just take a
bunch of guys from Alabama. Yeah, like you have to
look that hard.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Georgia had all kinds of players. Hey, let's just just
state right, every other player Georgia.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But in all seriousness, these guys don't feel like there's
any value that they can provide. If they're just bringing
guys who are some of the top in college football. Now,
maybe there's some true to making them look good. For fine,
these diamonds in the rough or find the few and
far between guys that stand out. But the truth is is,
like think back to the Seattle Seahawks drafts most recently,
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how many guys really stick out?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You'd have to say the names to me.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I mean Jackson Smith and jigbas shown flashes.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Him and Withersmith I think, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Kenneth Walker's shown flashes, but you.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, and there there's talks are trying to unload him
and or Charbonne as well too, so they were.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Like I think to think that the past drafts he's had,
like he's had some guys who were hits, but they're
usually the obvious ones. It's like, well, yeah, Jackson Smith
and Jig, but he was pretty prolific at Ohio State,
Like did overthink that one? That's a hit, And then
you look at some of these other obscure ones and
they're going all right. But anyway, we could break down
all types of different elements of the first round. I
just that's always one where you see the name, you go, yeah, no,
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not many other people had that on their Bengo board.
Uh does he know something we all don't? Or is
he just I don't know, trying to try to build
a certain way and try to put his stake his
claim to a guy. And again, don't get me wrong,
North Dcota State is not like a small program anymore.
That's that plays at a little professional push. But they've
they've had talent in recent years. So you got to
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give him credit for that. But it's it's not the
North Dakota State like twenty years ago. We're like, oh,
who's ever heard of that?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, I know people have heard of this. It's football Friday.
We finally football Friday. Here on the show.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Come on, yeah, come on.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I don't I don't
know why I'm here.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I don't know while I'm here. I'm tired. I'm tired,
and I don't know why i'm here. Hell no, come on,
come out. No no, no, no, won't come up, won't
come up, won't come up.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Won't make me. I won't do it. I won't do it. Okay,
come on, come on, come on, let's let's work for it.
Let's work for it.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Friday night is a football Friday.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Football Friday.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Rock them sock, wake up, Come come on Football Friday.
Here on the show, Brady.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
Quinn give it.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So that story is gonna take a turn pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Here.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 5 (21:44):
We don't really care about the first round anymore. What
we care about is what's gonna happen this weekend, and
what's gonna happen in the bottom ten.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
That's what I care about.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
This is this is the long shot.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You're hoping to have them.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
It's gonna pay off and line your pockets.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So Brady gave his explosive top ten mock draft yesterday,
and so we decided to dust off something that was
done years ago. I've decided, why don't we go ahead
and do the not even close to being explosive mock draft.
It's the bottom ten of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
and it starts now, and.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Now it's time for Jonas Knoxes.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, nowhere close to being explosive mock draft for two.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I thought you said, Brady, not you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh no, this is me baby, all ready to go whout.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It's perfect. The not top ten is definitely perfect for
you to do.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Let's go number two forty eight and number two forty
eight belongs to the New Orleans Saints and they go wide.
Receiver Efton Chisholm, the third up top Brady. He's five tennis.
He's close to two hundred pounds. Out of Eastern Washington.
Think Julian Edelman, Think Cole Beasley, Think Mike Furry. Most importantly,
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think small, strong and white. Chisholm was a first team
FCS All American and broke Cooper Cup single season receptions record,
finishing with one hundred and twenty catches over thirteen hundred
yards and thirteen touchdowns. Efton Chisholm, the third goes to
forty eight to the same.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
He's actually number.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I like what it h We had no time? Huh?
Who's control that lead back? Then we can talk about
rolling through Jesus numberton number.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The San Francisco forty nine ers hold pick number two
forty nine. Running Back Jaquindon Jackson out of Arkansas started
his career at Texas, transferred to Utah for three seasons
before spending last year with the Razorbacks. A tall running
back six to about two hundred and thirty pounds, named
second team All SEC last.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Year fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Was a quarterback coming out of high school and actually
backed up Cam Rising at Utah for a couple of games.
At this point, it's worth seeing what he got and
maybe a little versatility for Kyle Shanahan and company.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Number two fiftys.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
The Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They stay local offensive tackle Jack Nelson out of Wisconsin.
Last Packers pick for the fans there in Green Bay,
and they stay local with a monster in Nelson.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
He's six seven close to three point twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
His dad played for the Badgers, his brother plays for
the Badgers. This is a perfect spot for Nelson, who
somethink might go a round or two earlier based on
his raw ability. He was also a two time honorable
mention All Big Ten and started fifty games in college.
Much like his dad, who got drafted late back in
nineteen eighty nine in the twelfth round by the Cardinals.
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Jack Nelson goes late here, but does so where the
Nelsons playball in Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Number two fifty one trade.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Alert, Well, you bet your sweet ass it's a trade alert.
In the seventh round, number two fifty one goes from
the Kansas City Chiefs over to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and
the Pittsburgh Steelers Selectorge linebacker Carson Brunner out of Washington.
That name should sound familiar to Steelers fans. Carson is
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the son of former Steelers tight end and Mike Tomlin,
and the organization does the Bruners a solid and takes
Carson here, who at six' one and just shy of
two thirty doesn't have great stats to point to, but
was well respected by teammates as a captain for you
dub and could find a spot on special teams.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Number two fifty two.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Andres bore Gollis sight out again Andres Boa Gollis to
the San Francisco forty nine Ers. He is the top
kicker in the draft. He's out of Miami, number one rated,
and he goes to the Niners, who find another gem
late in the draft in the seventh round. Much like
Brock Purdy, they've had special teams issues. Jake Moody has
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been a bit of a mess, and they're still trying
to replace the great Robbie Gold, who retired a couple
of years ago. But Bori Gallis was a first team
All ACC selection this past year and missed just one
kick all year. Bory Gallis goes to the Niners out
of Miami to replace the legend, hopefully that is Robbie
Gold out of we are Penn.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
State number two fifty three.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
The Miami Dolphins go edge here.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Fidell Digs out of Syracuse, six' four close to two
hundred and sixty pounds with a lot of, experience was
An ALL acc honorable mention last season for The. Orange
diggs was a four star recruit who started At TEXAS
a AND m before transferring To syracuse and was voted
team captain three times over during his college. Career The
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dolphins could use some high character guys with all the
drama going on right, now and they get one here
in the seventh With Fidel diggs there at pick number
two fifty, three.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
But dale number two fifty. Four trade Alert.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Trada, right trade, alert that, is and The New Orleans
saints will send this pick to The Philadelphia eagles and
they will Go Nazir stackhouse out of you guessed, It.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Georgia he's a d. Lineman he went To.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Georgia of, Course Howie roseman and The eagles like this.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Move he can't help.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Himself he adds a two times second Team ALL sec
selection In, stackhouse a run stuffing defensive tackle at six'
four and a smidge just to smidge under three hundred and.
Thirty pounds stackhouse is probably best remembered for his block
field goal in the twenty TWENTY two sec title GAME
against lsu that was returned ninety five yards for. A
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touchdown pick two Fifty Four, nazir Stackhouse another Bulldog, in.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Philly number two.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Fifty, five now this pick originally belonged To The, cleveland
browns where there was a trade. Done yesterday so step
right Up The houston texans and. They Go joshua simon
tight end Out Of. South carolina more of an h backstyle,
tight end he Led the cocks, in catches receiving yards
and receiving touchdowns. Last season he spent the first part
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of his college Career At, western kentucky where he was
voted Second Team ALL. Conference usa at this point in,
the draft he's all upside and, Most importantly houston lands
a guy who played college ball in the State Of.
South carolina that isn't. A Weirdo joshua simon To the
texans a pick two, fifty five.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Number two fifty six.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That belongs TO The, la chargers And the bolts will
go Offensive Tackle miles hinton Out.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Of michigan he played For. Harbad michigan he.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Won a national title there after spending the first part
of his college Career.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
At stanford he's ALSO got.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Nfl pedigree, His Dad, chris hinton actually played thirteen years IN.
The nfl fun fact about, His dad chris was part
of The on. Lway trade he actually was. The swap
the player involved In That john elway Trade On draft
day ended up having a really good career Himself all
Pro Seven pro bowls as an offensive line and his
Son here miles finds a home back with his old
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college coach is as a seventh round pick OF The.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
La chargers and.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Finally two fifty seven it is mister irrelevant time and
it belongs To The Kansas. City chiefs and if you
know Anything About, brett Veach THE chiefs gm he's taken
interior offensive lineman or defensive backs the last. Six years
with his final pick of, the draft and he does it,
yet again and he goes to. State College jalen kimber
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cornerback At A penn state no invite At, The combine kiss.
My ass kimber ran a sub four to Four At
penn State's. Pro day he spent one year in state
college after Time in Florida, and georgia so HE'S got
somesc pedigree as. Well too even though he's listed at
six feet one hundred and eighty, Four pounds kimber is
known for his physicality and. Good tackling he also worked
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in at slot and nickel At The East West, shrine
game which he hadn't done throughout his. College career your
mister irrelevant for twenty Twenty Five jalen kimber.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Out of We Are.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Penn state and that is your bottom ten of the
twenty Twenty FIVE.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
Yeah, nfl, yeah yeah, well, done good.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well done trades everything.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
In that he's so.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like that be sure to catch live Editions Of two
pros And a Cup of Joe With, Brady Quinn, LeVar
Errington And jonas knox weekdays at Six, am eastern Three,
Am pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And we open up the final hour Of This football
friday with a, special guest a man you normally Hear
on wednesdays here on, the show but he is grazing
us with his presence here On This, football friday the
one And Only. Petros papadaikas he is the co host
Of the Petros And, money show which you can hear
On THE blowtorch am, FIVE Seventy, La, Sports fox college
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pop ball analysts and our good. Pal here you can
get THEM on x At the Old p petro's, good morning.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Good, morning hello good morning. To, Everybody helloavar, good. Morning
sir that's on the great coverage. Last night oh, thanks
man thank you. Appreciate that, you know we.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Weren't able to carry IT in la because Of the.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Clipper game, but, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
THAT means i had to actually do the first hour
of the draft on, the show which.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Was fun we had a.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Good time petro's, most importantly how.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
You feel, I'm okay, I'm fine thank you, for Asking
but i'm.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Doing better some people are calling you names on on.
SOCIAL media i didn't know that that was public.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Republican, Something, NO no i, was Misdiagnosed but, I'm right wait?
Speaker 9 (31:46):
What hell?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
What?
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Happened NO that i went TO the.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
I had a bad RASH and i went to the
doctor and they TOLD me i, had shingles AND then i.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Went uh and.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
Then a couple of DAYS later i went back to
the doctor and the doctor was like the other doctor
the dermatologists, was like this.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Isn't SHINGLE so i, Was, LIKE.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
Okay I guess i can go back. Outside again, So,
Anyway yeah. I'm healing i'm.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Doing, better wow, conflicting reports what?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Are you, you know Just Like urgent Care on easter at.
Eight o'clock, you know sometimes it's good to get a. Second,
opinion yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That's true well did any of those picks yesterday need a?
Speaker 9 (32:24):
SECOND opinion, i mean, you know time.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Will Tell As bob, marley said you think you're, in
heaven but you're really.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
In HELL but i, gotta say, LIKE usually i mean
ninety nine.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
Percent of, THE time i have no time FOR The,
nfl draft which makes me very different from a lot
of people in the.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Sports world the event that it's become is.
Speaker 10 (32:49):
MIND boggling, i mean the fact that there's two hundred
and fifty thousand people, or whatever how many people were there.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
One hundred and fifty, g's yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
YOU know i mean after the past, ackers picked they all,
boned out but it was pretty. And that but that
was really late and. THAT'S impressive i mean just to
see it looked Like.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Farm aide but there's.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
NO band, i mean that's the thing THAT really i
know they have performances, and stuff but that's the thing
that really blows my mind ABOUT the, nfl draft because
nothing happens other than the fact that a guy runs
around in a suit Or, hugs goodell or there's a
heartwarming moment for whoever's announcing, the pick or some nostalgic
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name from the past or some guy and, you're like.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
Who's THAT because i never saw him without a. Helmet
on like all that is.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Going on but it's really INTERESTING because, i mean it
didn't used to be, like THIS or i didn't feel
like it used to be, Like THIS but, I mean
nfl coverage in twenty, twenty five or at least maybe
for the last fifteen, twenty years it's just become like a, douche,
Fest right it's, a douchefest like pre half in post is.
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A DOUCHEVEST like i Gotta Watch, peter schrager, YOU know
i mean it's, you KNOW and I, like peter but
you Know what, i'm saying it's all these guys like
trying to out self important, each other, you know whether
it's rapapoor or the rap sheet, or schefter. YOU know,
i mean it's just these guys in different suits and,
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sweatshirt combos douche.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Out whatever of the good old Days With, beino cook, you,
know right.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
You know he. Wasn't, douche now he was, a drunk old,
white guy but he wasn't.
Speaker 10 (34:34):
A dude but you KNOW what, I mean like when
you WATCH an nfl game OR Watch, Nfl, sunday yeah
there's a lot of douchebaggery with, the reporting but at
a certain point it goes away and you watch the
game and that's what people are tuning in for. The
product it's amazing to me how POPULAR The nfl draft
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is when all it literally is is the douche fest
and the bells and whistles of the doucheri and it's
it's it's amazing how how popular the. EVENT is i have,
TO say i watched the event last night for the
first time and uh in a, long time with a
lot more interest for, one reason and that was the
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same reason maybe a lot of other people were Watching
is schador wasn't, getting drafted and NOT like i expected
him to get drafted or didn't expect him to. GET drafted,
I MEAN I i i am not a breaker down
of tape when it comes to. This stuff i've seen
a Lot of schadure to have my opinions about him
as a. Football analyst but it's really interesting because literally
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You Had, joel klatt our colleague.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
And friend who.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
WAS angry, i mean he was Mad that schadur didn't Get,
picked Lewis the, Lewis, guy ritticks he. Was Pissed mel
kiper was livid to where They Picked jackson Dart And
new york trades back in to Pick That. Jackson dart
They're Playing jackson dart highlights And mel kiper is just Talking.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
About shador, And like schnor didn't, get picked.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
You know and and that's if there's THIRTY two nfl
teams that didn't, pick him that doesn't mean that he's
not going to have a, good career that he's not
going to be a player IN the.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
Nfl and have. An opportunity but it's.
Speaker 10 (36:24):
REALLY interesting, I Mean lewis riddick sat there and said
he could have a better Career Than, tom brady he
could have a better Career Than.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
Patrick mahomes and it's like you did, Say that yes.
He did you know.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
He did i'll play it for you and you. KNOW that,
i mean it just starts to. Get desperate these guys
are TRYING.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
To i don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
What benefit what's the benefit of.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
DOING that i guess you don't want to Piss off
Dion and dion You'd call dion, AND say i mean the.
Same Thing where like you just Heard A colin coward
clip about How old lebron is the one that you
could feel his presence. Out there it's like that's the
only person that. Said that everybody else Is said lebron.
Is slipping, you, know well What does cowhard say? That
For Because maverick carter one of those guys gonna call him,
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and say good, On, You colin we'll give you the.
NEXT whatever, I mean i. Get, it no that's what.
IT is, I mean i.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Get it.
Speaker 10 (37:10):
It's currency but at a, certain point it's like when
every pundit is screaming and whining for something AND the
nfl gms are rejecting it pick after pick. After pick
at a, certain point, it's like WHAT am? I watching,
YOU know espn is sitting here trying to make, fetch
happen and it's it's that made it interesting to me
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just to see how it was playing out and at
THE same, i MEAN and, i mean we can have
a conversation, about it unless you guys want to change.
The topic but it is an interesting thing to me
because you think about it and whether You like shod
as a player, or not or whether you think what
Happened at colorado was a super remarkable sea change of
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college football or that they just did okay.
Speaker 9 (37:59):
Out running a lot of.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
THE expectations, i mean we could have an argument about that.
Or NOT but, i Mean if I'M an, NFL franchise,
i mean do you really how good is he to invite?
THAT in, i mean that's usually, the, weight right the
balance of the scales of justice of football is you
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look at a guy and, you say how good is
he compared to what we have to deal with if we?
Pick him and in some instances it's.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
A yes, you know for.
Speaker 10 (38:35):
DIFFERENT guys, i Mean Obviously johnny manzel is a. GREAT
example i mean huge red flags all the, way around
but somebody was willing to deal with that to try
to develop him as a. Football player other guys for,
different reasons the guy at the Guy From inland Empire,
In Washington, JAYDEN daniels, i mean his mom is with
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him every step of, the way Just like lamar jac
and some people would see that as. A detriment i
know a lot of people see that as. A detriment
but those franchises, have, said, no, no no we'll deal
with that whatever comes, with that and it's working out
pretty well For the Ravens with lamar And For jaden
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daniels IN. D c that's something that, They, said okay
this is all something we've. Heard about these are whispers
that we have to deal with this mom and the
family in a different kind. Of, way okay let's try
to do it and pull. It off and it seems
to be. Working out so that part, of it, you
know just that balance of how good is this guy
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compared to how much of a distraction. He'll be and
if you Bring in shador and he's, not playing somebody's
Gonna ask dion, about it and, You know dion might
criticize YOU. Your gm if he is playing and not,
doing well he might criticize the, old line he might,
make headlines, you know a lot of.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
THAT stuff a lot.
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Of, these maybes uh waight up With what shador actually
is as a, football player that that might have kept
him out of the.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
First round i'm.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
Not sure but but when you think, about IT an
nfl team that brings him in and then some, nightmare
ensues they'd feel pretty stupid because everybody else might have seen.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
IT coming i don't know if you guys get the
same feeling, As me and this isn't apples, to APPLES
but i feel like some of the coverage is starting
to remind me a little Bit Of. Brownie james like IT.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
Just i saw That, on twitter you KNOW what.
Speaker 10 (40:37):
I mean it tells you you're not looking at what you're, looking,
At right but but, YOU know, I MEAN i i
don't think that's fair to should do, herself.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Well, and honestly.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
He's deserved.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
WAY better, i mean they're both going to be second.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Round picks, BUT again i don't want to get caught
up in the, weeds Here but i'm, just saying as
far as the coverage, of it it does feel, like well,
you know the guy who's the guy has nowhere close
to being the best player in, the draft is the
most polarizing player in, the draft all because of a
good amount of.
Speaker 10 (41:07):
The pundits last night on both networks covering, the event
which have. Exclusive coverage we're throwing an.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
On air temper tantrum.
Speaker 10 (41:15):
OVER it, i, mean though seriously to where that was
the whole draft and THAT is, I mean i think
that speaks to. YOUR point, i mean and and a
lot of people said last night in, social, media sorry
ESPN's whole pr.
Speaker 9 (41:31):
Push couldn't get this. Guy draft and it's, TRUE.
Speaker 10 (41:36):
Though, i mean and it just goes, TO show, i
mean there's such a thing as, media pressure and there's
such a thing as kind of a. General consensus but
these guys are not going to be bullied into picking
somebody they don't want to pick before they have to.
Pick them and the market IN the nfl is the
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biggest meritocracy there is in the world as far as
bringing a player in and that whole person and what
it means to. The franchise these things are gigantic investments
nowadays and the value of it all is just rocketed
and the market tells you what your. Value IS and
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i think that was a really hard lesson last night
for everybody who thinks that they can just Go on
they have so much power just GOING on tv and
screaming into a camera about something they think is favorable
for them to say because of one reason. Or another
the market IN the nfl tells you. What's WHAT and
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i do think that that it got to the point
where it was just kind of gross last night where,
it's like can this? Guy smile? You know is he
that Mad about shador that he? CAN'T smile, i mean
how angry are these guys that he's not getting picked
for one reason? Or another and that was really it
probably shouldn't, have been but very entertaining.
Speaker 9 (42:57):
For me.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
You know you Know what i've been trying to understand
because there's so much to be talked about and discussed about.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
The draft BUT what.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
I don't understand is, is, How, LIKE okay i Get
it's dion AND and i, get that, you know it's
the capital and all that stuff that's connected.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
TO it i.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
UNDERSTAND that i just help, Me, understand uh why how
do you become that big of a storyline and we're
not even really discussing like nuts the nuts if you, ask,
ME right, i mean.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
But that's colorado football the last couple of. Years too so.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
It's like you create a smoke screen of impact. And effect?
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Is that is that what this really comes, down TO because,
i mean think. About it we're, retiring jerseys, you know
we're up For, The heisman we're heading into. The draft
we're talking top, five pick and he has dominated the
narrative and the storylines of this, entire draft maybe Outside Of,
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travis hunter maybe even.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
The entire college.
Speaker 9 (44:13):
Football. Season, YEAH no i think you're right in a lot.
Speaker 10 (44:18):
Of ways and you wonder how much of it is
merited and how much of it is just a, Media
EVENT and i mean it's probably, sixty forty, you know
and it is unfortunate because but, you know if, it
works if, it bleeds. It Leads and colorado football is,
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getting ratings whether, or not if they're mediocre or just
a little bit, above mediocre or how much, they've improved
all of that is relative to how many people. Are
watching so if, THE market, i mean that's the flip
side of. The coin if the market's telling you everybody
wants to watch The door sanders or the circus That,
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is colorado or the circus that's having a little bit
more success That. In colorado if you're looking at year two,
last year which was a lot, more impressive but still
not good enough to really challenge for the big twelfth
title or anything.
Speaker 9 (45:14):
Like that.
Speaker 10 (45:16):
The market dictated. That too people want, to watch and
it became a. Big TOPIC but i do think at
a certain point it's a responsibility of.
Speaker 9 (45:24):
The networks to try to just water down. The coverage.
Speaker 10 (45:27):
You know what it reminds me a little Bit of
LeVar Is The lonzo, ball thing. YOU know i Mean
That lonzo ball got picked By the lakers because and, everybody's,
like well you Can't blame magic, for that.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
It's just a.
Speaker 10 (45:41):
Local pressure and, it's, like well people, look back not
even like five, years later which is usually the way
to judge, a draft but people look back like a,
year later and they, were, like well what about This?
Deeron fox what About This? Jason tatum what the hell
were you.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Guys Doing petro's magic said that his jersey was going
up in. THE rafters i think it was right next
To The taylor swift banner.
Speaker 10 (46:01):
Or something see that was a media, event, Too right
like that was a total. Media Event the LeVar ball
was Going On colin cowherd and fighting With that leahy
chick whatever happened.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
To her uh you.
Speaker 10 (46:17):
KNOW what, I mean like every day, it was oh.
My god lvar said he Could Beat michael jordan one, on.
One loh LeVar said he could. Win Motorcross so, LaVar said,
YOU know i mean it just. Never stopped LaVar could
Win la mon's uh, and uh it just.
Speaker 9 (46:31):
Kept going, and going and it became a.
Speaker 10 (46:33):
Media event lonzo ball, got picked and then the dust kind,
of settled and media people wondered If the lakers didn't
kind of get bullied. INTO that, I Mean magic johnson's excuse,
WAS literally i we had great waffle strawberry Pancakes And,
chino HILLS so.
Speaker 9 (46:50):
I picked i mean it, was amazing it.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Really was we got good strawberries Out, in, Chino right.
Speaker 9 (46:57):
But that but that was. A situation you're right about
that great.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
Agricultural area they got good strawberries Out, in china, really.
Speaker 9 (47:03):
Yeah, no doubt, very agricultural Not.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Just oxnard they got Them.
Speaker 9 (47:07):
IN china i played football with some good players From.
Speaker 10 (47:10):
The nard there, You Go Nardcore, Kerry Colbert, Jacob Rogers,
chad Pearson Co, kerry colbert.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
You get, Over That. Camerio gray it's a whole. DIFFERENT
world I.
Speaker 10 (47:22):
Remember kerry colbert tried to drive on my, recruiting trip,
you know because we, WERE all, i mean on his.
RECRUITING trip i was, his host and he, was like,
you SURE maybe i. Should drive, you know we had
a car full, of IDIOTS and i, was, like dude,
you're black This Is, SOUTH central i.
Speaker 9 (47:35):
GOTTA drive i had to tell him about, you know
he Was.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
From oxnard pet A guy i mean back in the
back of.
Speaker 9 (47:46):
The Nineties In south Central. Lav army, COME on i.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Get it petro's the guy that you were spoke very
highly of in your deal.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
Over on, his recruiting in, your dealings.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
In your dealings with him throughout the worse of, Calling Games.
Ashton gent he ends up With. The, Raiders yeah and
as the draft, got closer more and more people were
kind of echoing your sentiment throughout the course. Of it,
great kid, great player that's one that feels like it's
gonna work at the.
Speaker 10 (48:14):
Next, LEVEL yeah, I mean i love, the PLAYER and
i got to see him a. Whole, lot ever since
his true freshman Year, at boise and he had a
lot of wear and tear. LAST year, i mean they
gave him so many carries and he was literally carrying the,
whole town the, whole conference the whole blue, turf deal
all the way to how far, they got which was
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maybe the greatest Season in.
Speaker 9 (48:38):
Boise history but you have to look.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
At him in an. Interesting way he was a. Slot guy,
you know he.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
Grew Up in italy.
Speaker 10 (48:47):
And stuff he heard the story because the, military family
and he Came to texas and he was a slot
guy for a, little while started playing running back when
he Got. To boise he didn't start his freshman and soft.
MORE year, i mean he played and you could tell he.
Was good but there was a Guy Named george holani
who was a running Back, from servite same Place as
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tetoa McMillan And mason graham who got picked. Last night
survilled high school in Uh In, Los Angeles orange county
area And the friars.
Speaker 9 (49:19):
And.
Speaker 10 (49:22):
Yeah, and uh it's. It was it was interesting just
to see kind of how that. Played out, And Uh
george hollani was their Starter and jenti kind of kind
of sort of, Spelled him and it really wasn't until
like midway through last year and then and or midway
through two years ago and last YEAR where i, Was,
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like wow this guy's a really special. Running back he's
really hard. TO tackle, i mean he's got so many
of the weird intangibles and the great attitude and and
a lot of the. Physical gifts but he his will
to not get tackled.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
Is amazing. He's.
Speaker 10 (49:56):
Jacked yeah and then there's two, Things too Like That
cam scataboo is like, that, too Right That arizona state
white guy that looks like.
Speaker 9 (50:04):
A criminal i mean you could take.
Speaker 10 (50:07):
The sack you could Take the sacramento out of the small.
COLLEGE back i mean you could take the small college
back Out. Of sacramento you can't Take.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
The Sacramento And cam's scataboo does look like a guy
who would go to lock up in, two weeks have,
a cheer he'd have a tear.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Drop tattoo but he's.
Speaker 9 (50:23):
Getting sued for like breaking some guy's hip on a. Golf.
Speaker 10 (50:27):
Cart yeah but like the Thing About cam scataboo is
and he might have a VERY good, NFL career i.
Speaker 9 (50:33):
Don't KNOW and i loved him as.
Speaker 10 (50:35):
A back but if he broke, a tackle which he,
often did very difficult to tackle one on one a Lot,
like genty he goes another two three yards past. That
Point if genty breaks, your tackle he can really scatter
away from you. Accelerate quickly and that was really the
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thing That set genty apart aside from all the really
special things he does in the box as, a back.
Speaker 9 (51:02):
It was the fact that he.
Speaker 10 (51:03):
Could turn, you know what's a good twelve to fifteen
yard run for, most backs and he. Goes seventy he
finds a way to keep. It going he has a
plan down, the field and that is. REALLY remarkable i
mean you could see his long runs and just how
he keeps. On going and when you have a game
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where you have twenty five thirty carries and you're ripping
off thirty forty, YARD runs i mean that that guy
was a was a real battery powered animal. Last YEAR
and i can't wait to see what he does With.
Speaker 5 (51:36):
The raiders well.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
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the co host Of The Petros, money show which you
can hear On the blowtorchs The. L, SPORT.
Speaker 6 (51:48):
Well i WAS saying i was, saying, earlier, DUDE dude,
I mean i feel like there's the possibility he does
if you if you've talked all this, about him and
if the value is what people were trying to make
it out, to be he goes in the. First round
so the fact that he didn't go in the, first
round would you.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Be surprised if he slipped out of.
Speaker 9 (52:07):
A second i.
Speaker 10 (52:08):
Think everybody all these guys are looking at each other IN,
the nfl, said no you, do it you, do it,
YOU know i mean you DEAL with i mean and in,
many ways Like t bow Or, like kaepernick, you know
in one way or, the other it's like you want
to invite the circus into. Your town whether it's right
or wrong to, Go ahead we don't.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
WANT to, I, mean petros there's actually a good chance
he might get drafted while you guys are on the
air later.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Get him on AT The olp hey brun
Speaker 4 (52:43):
As funny, As, hell bro
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And it is a round one of the Draft recap
day here on the show, A uh, listen, fell a
little bit chalky up until the Jacksonville Jaguars decided, you
know what we really like Travis Hunter, let's.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Go ahead and make a swap with Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
But I mean, what pick was that number?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, well it was chalky going into the draft. People
felt like it was in you know, we kind of
had a clear understanding that.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
It was chalky in the sense of the guys who
went went to three four, All went went to three four.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Who you thought.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I thought the biggest surprise was, yes, Jacksonville trading up
in Cleveland trading back to five. But then kind of
who Cleveland took at five. I did not think they're
gonna take Mason Graham, the de tackle out of Michigan.
I thought, again, not gonna be critical. I'm not one
who likes to sit here. And the next day after go, oh,
(01:14):
let's let's grade the draft. Let's give our ABC. That's
what Pete Prisco does, all right, because we'll leave that
to Pete, but that was not one of my favorite
moves for the Cleveland Browns. I kept thinking in my head,
if you could have a player like Travis Hunter, who
you heard James Gladstone, the general manager for the Jaguars,
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talk about, you know, his versatility, he's deserving him a
first round pick as a wide receiver or cornerback if
you could have had him. But instead you trade back
just to get some more picks and then take a
player in Mason Graham, who's a good player. I don't
I didn't watch him this past year, over the past
couple of years and feel like he was as good
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as you know as a de tackle was maybe some
others thought. I just I felt like, I don't know,
it wasn't as helpful. And one of the reasons during
my mock draft, I was like, it didn't make sense
for Travis Hunter to go to Cleveland and maybe this
is the thought is because they didn't really need him
as much. They maybe they need more defensive line help.
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I still thought at that pick stayed there to take
ab Dul Carter, Like that's the thing that really surprised
me the most about it was you trade out of it,
not only do don't take Travis Hunter, you don't take
ab Duel Carter. And yes, maybe you get more of
a need in Mason Graham, but I don't think he's
to the caliber of either of those two players I
just mentioned.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
I think being with the guys last evening, I believe
the consensus was this is them trying to commit to
a rebuild and build through the draft. I think the
compensation of the pick, the trade out of the pick
would would say that, you know, them trying to gather
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more draft stock, more draft capital to try to build
the team. And you know, for for whatever, you know,
for whatever it's worth. You know, I don't think Mason
Graham for Cleveland with that defensive front. They definitely upgraded
their defensive front bringing him in. Do I agree with
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you they should? I mean take the best available, Like
you're a team that if you get an Abdul Carter,
you have a premiere pass rush unit in the National
Football League. If if Abdul Carter proves out to be
what people are projecting him to be, again it continues
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to be with Cleveland that that continues to be kind
of a head scratcher, and and you kind of ask yourself. Okay,
well it was a I believe it was a safe pick.
I thought a lot of these teams played it safe
with you know, going with linemen, not going with There
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just wasn't very many skill players that were were taken,
and and so to me, it's it's, you know, more
or less kind of I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I I just I wasn't.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I wasn't overwhelmed by a lot of a lot of
the picks. I thought that that Travis Hunter going to
Jacksonville was it's a tremendous win for Jacksonville. But I
question is it a tremendous win for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I just don't. I don't like the market.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I thought, on the topic of Cleveland trading out and
then taking Mason Graham, I thought, okay, they moved a five.
If they're not taking gent, just trade back again, Like
if this is about the same thing, if this is
about building draft capital and building towards the future, like
let's let's just keep this train rolling and get as
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mini picks possible and try and recoup what you lost
in the awful Deshaun Watson trade that you made.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
And so and here what I was getting, what Jay
was saying, is nobody wanted to trade.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Body was trading.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Nobody, nobody was playing like there were a lot of
teams that were trying to trade from what I could gather,
and they nobody wanted to trade. Nope, we're not giving no,
you use your pick. Yeah, we don't want to cooperate
with you. Nope, nope, Yeah you got it. And I
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heard watching it happened like three or four times too,
by the way. People were trying to trade out like
they were trying hard as hell to trade, and nobody
wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Even with even with Genti still sitting there, like nobody
wanted to move.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Nobody wanted to move. Nobody was really moving.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The team that did make the move the Jacksonville Jaguars.
So James Gladstone, their GM, he's, you know, spent a
long time with the La Rams, and he spoke about
their decision to move up to take Travis Hunter at
number two.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I probably got some familiarity with.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
The them picks sort of process. So for our fans,
I'll tell you, don't be scared. This is something I'm
uniquely positioned to navigate. We ended up with jack We
ended up we ended up bringing Travis Hunter to Jacksonville,
and with that, he is somebody who is deserving of
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a first round draft pick as a wide receiver, and
he is worthy of a first round draft pick as
a corner. Certainly look forward to each of those elements
showing themselves over the next few years while he's under
his Rokie contract. But yeah, we're excited about just getting
him in the boat, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Man him and Liam com together.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's a quirky duo, douvoll.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It's it's one way of describing them. And it is
interesting to hear the strategy and the aggressiveness. You know.
I think you go back and look at the Los
Angeles Rams and how they've typically handled the first round
of the draft in the past. You know, they've been
a team that they haven't spent those draft picks. They've
used those first round draft picks to instead trade and
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go get verified current Pro Bowl talent in the NFL.
And I think if you look at that strategy, you'd say, Okay,
it's gonna hit your salary cap more, you know, if
you're to play this route. But when you're in a
window of we've got to go win now or we
want to try to win a super Bowl. Now, it's
not the worst strategy. So you know, he's looking at
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it saying, let's go find a guy we really love
and we want to build around. And that's worthy of that.
And I get that, like you get rewarded for going
and finding guys who could be difference makers. Hunter was
one of the you know, I would say four difference makers.
I I thought in this draft looking at it between him,
Abdul Carter, Ashton Genty, and Tyler Warren. Now the Chicago
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Bears pick a ten blew my mind. I just I
did not have Lovelin as high as as a tight end,
not saying he couldn't go in the first round, but
not as high as Tyler Warren and as far as
the different things Tyler Warren can do and his his versatility.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
So like what he falls to you, yeah, it looks
out great, didn't have.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
But I sit there and just go, man, like, there's
certain organizations that you look at and you just go, well,
why do they have a hard time getting getting themselves
out of a hole?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Well there you go, damn Well, I mean, I don't,
I don't, I don't disagree with it. I mean when
the Bears did it, I said, this is classic Beers.
I mean, Coleston is good.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
He is good.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I mean he he has, you know, strong receiving ability
as a tight end, runs pretty good routes.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But I mean Pete loves him.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Pete says he's the best tight end in the draft,
better than Tyler Warrence. So like what like there's the
recap on Pete's on CBS sports dot Com.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Pete Pete loved the pick, by.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
The way, real quick, just to peek in all of it.
So Pete grades I believe the first round. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Jonas of the NFL job, Yeah, then I don't know
who does it after that, but he did.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's a good job.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
So that's the thing is Pete does it for the
first round, and his explanation for the grades with each
one of the picks are so succinct. It's short, it's
to the point, it's sometimes maybe a sentence, a couple
of sentences, and then then you get this. Then you
get like from round two automward, it's like this deep
analysis someone running. Yeah, it's completely different. Like he doesn't
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feel like he needs to explain to you guys why
he gives a grade for what he gives. All right,
p just does whatever he wants.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You want me to read, ask you guys a question. No, no,
I don't hold let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I just want to read Pete Pete's analysis on Colston
Loveland in comparison to Tyler Warren.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
All right, First on Loveland from Pete Prisco. I love
this pick.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
For the Bears. He was my top tight end. He
was the best pass catcher of the tight ends. He
will fit perfectly into the Ben Johnson offense. Now to
Tyler Warren from Pete Prisco. This makes sense. Warren is
an all around tight end. He can do a lot
of things. The Colts needed an upgrade to make it
easier on their quarterbacks. He is a good football player,
but is he great at anything?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Dot dot dom.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Here's what I hear.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
They gave the comp with with Loveland to Tyler Eiffert,
which I thought was an accurate that's an accurate comp
But if you were to comp Tyler Warren, who are
you comping them with? I'm saying Kittle or Kelsey and
and that's not uh, that's not an over, that's not
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a reach. That's a real to me, I think it's
a real comp and and for what it's worth, I
think that Tyler Warren can block better than both both
the comps that that I gave with Damn, why am
I blanking on who I just said? I just gave
you guys Kittle and Kelsey Like he you know, he
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he can.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Block better than them. So to me, which one would
you rather have?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Would you rather have Eiffert or would you have rather
have Kelsey or or Kittle? Like that was that was
the question that was was circulating for me, I'd rather
have a more talented, gifted player and what it is
that they bring to the table. I think Iffert is
a really fine football player, really fine tight end for
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the Bengals. But I mean he doesn't move the needle
like like a Kelsey or a Kittle does. Like to me,
the future is how Kittle and Kelsey play the game,
and that's what you get in a Tyler Warren. And
so to me, I felt like it was an easy
It was an easy decision. If you're going with a
tight end early on, you should have been, you know,
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biting at the bit to get a hold of a
Tyler Warren. No shade to Loveland, because again I think
that Loveland is a fine football player, but great, you know,
I don't you know, that's I feel like that might
be a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I would actually go as far as saying, I don't
really see much of a comparison between Colston Loveland and
Tyler Eifert. I thought my Eifert was much more dynamic
the way nardam used him in their offense. I mean,
how they tried to isolate him one on one versus
pretty much anyone. You saw elements of that at Michigan,
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but that was more out of board, out of necessity,
because they didn't really have anyone at a wide receiver
that could do that. I mean, they were so poor
a wide receiver. They had to do some different things
with him to get him the ball, and even then
it was, you know, he was good, but not quite
as dynamic. I also think eifer was a little bigger,
better blocker as an inline tight end. So I understand
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the comp based on maybe some similarities, but I actually
think I, for given his athleticism, was a lot closer
to a Kelsey and so forth. It's just maybe he
didn't do a lot of those different things. I mean,
you're also talking about like a guy who was a
pro bowler who dealt with injuries. But the difference for
me is just and again, you have to look at
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the board and say, like, who do we feel like
our best players available? And I'm sure that's what Chicago
did on their draft board and how they evaluated it.
But I'm just like, there's not other places where you
felt like there was a need defensively to help improve
that side of the ball, or even offensive line. And
you know, there was a number of offensive linemen that
ended up going at some point, and I you know,
(14:05):
Josh Simmons ends up going thirty second. He's a guy
I thought would be a great fit for them, And
I know, you know, talking to people last night, there
was character, character concerns besides the medical concerns. We hear
that about guys like Jayleen Carter. Oh, there's character concerns,
the how's Philly feeling about them after last year?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh, by the way, Breer brought that up with Simmons
as well too. What are the character concerns about him
that people are talking about?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
What does he I wouldn't know the specifics to it.
The times that we were around Ohio State. Never heard,
never saw anything like that. So you know, there's three things. Right.
There's medical that world not privy too. We just hear like, oh,
it's a medical issue, which he did have. Some of
that there was a concern with. And then there was
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this idea of character, whether it's off the field concern
for bad things or do I love football like that
they I shouldn't whether or not these players love football.
I don't know if he falls into either one of
those two categories. But from talking to some people last night,
there's that general label of some character concerns. So again
(15:13):
I just I always think back and I laugh because
you know, Joel Klatt goes on a diet tribe last
night for defending Shador Sanders and the narratives and all stuff,
you know, and taking issue with it, which is great,
but he also is part of that, you know, and
people you know, you know at times do that and
and go after some of those narratives. So we got
(15:35):
to be careful, right, we don't sound hypocritical when when
we're out there taking this grand stand for like the
narratives around a lot of these prospects. Well, okay, there's
different narratives in college football that it gets built up
then too, and sometimes you have a podcast or sometimes
you're you're on a show. It's part of that. So
my general point is this, I hate hearing it too
(15:56):
clearly there's something going on though with a player, because
it wasn't just Breer saying it. It was other coaches
that I talked to in the NFL, uh you know,
at that position group that were telling me that last night.
So it was a bit surprising. But again I still
feel like, lovely will we can find for them? But
will he end up being the kind of game changing
tight end in Ben Johnson's offense in Chicago that they need.
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I don't know, Like, do you view him as Sam Laporta?
Do you feel me as those types? We'll have to
wait and see.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Will we hold Pete accountable for this? Is this going
to be our comp much like the Joe Burrow is
going to win multiple Super Bowls?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
We've got to go to Tyler.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Oh yeah, I will, Yeah, I certainly will. Certainly we
will certainly circle back.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Pete did give jo.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
U lets Unless Tyler doesn't prove out Pete. The only
way I leave it alone.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
By the way, Pete did give Josh Simmons an A
plus grade to the Kansas City Chief.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
So there's that, so real quick on the subject too.
By the way, with Pete, uh, can we can we
look through his grades and just hold this Lee if
you could, if you're there, just try to find some
things we can pick on a little bit, by the way,
like great, great Zabel for Seattle, does anyone draft more
obscure guys from smaller schools or out of the way
the John Schneider and the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It's great, I.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Mean something, it felt like you pushed out Pete Carroll
and Seattle. It's like it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's like, Yeah, the LeVar last night on the draft
coverage just says to Joe Douglas and Jay Glazer.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like, I got a question, what are the Seahawks doing?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's like, well, you know, they like they like the
linemen here, they like this. It's like, you know, it's
been kind of a kind of an interesting offseason for.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, strange.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Can I give you a thirty second though, like dissertation
as to why? And there's nothing against the small school guys,
all right, I understand there's some diamonds in the rough,
there's some guys who who show out. But can we
be real now, this in this day and age of
college football, where it's easier and easier to trans from
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a smaller school to get to a bigger school because
of the transfer portal, because of nil the cream of
the crop is mostly at some of the top schools mostly,
and probably now more than ever before. And I've always
had this theory that a lot of general managers and
towent evaluators and scouts they try to find these diamonds
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in the rough from smaller schools because they can kind
of stake their claim to that it's too it's too
easy to take. Hey, let's just take a bunch of
offensive linemen from Ohio State. Hey, let's just take a
bunch of guys from Alabama. Yeah, like you have to
look that hard.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Georgia had all kinds of players. Hey, let's just just
state right, every other player Georgia.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But in all seriousness, these guys don't feel like there's
any value that they can provide. If they're just bringing
guys who are some of the top in college football. Now,
maybe there's some true to making them look good. For fine,
these diamonds in the rough or find the few and
far between guys that stand out. But the truth is is,
like think back to the Seattle Seahawks drafts most recently,
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how many guys really stick out?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You'd have to say the names to me.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I mean Jackson Smith and jigbas shown flashes.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Him and Withersmith I think, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Kenneth Walker's shown flashes, but you.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, and there there's talks are trying to unload him
and or Charbonne as well too, so they were.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Like I think to think that the past drafts he's had,
like he's had some guys who were hits, but they're
usually the obvious ones. It's like, well, yeah, Jackson Smith
and Jig, but he was pretty prolific at Ohio State,
Like did overthink that one? That's a hit, And then
you look at some of these other obscure ones and
they're going all right. But anyway, we could break down
all types of different elements of the first round. I
just that's always one where you see the name, you go, yeah, no,
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not many other people had that on their Bengo board.
Uh does he know something we all don't? Or is
he just I don't know, trying to try to build
a certain way and try to put his stake his
claim to a guy. And again, don't get me wrong,
North Dcota State is not like a small program anymore.
That's that plays at a little professional push. But they've
they've had talent in recent years. So you got to
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give him credit for that. But it's it's not the
North Dakota State like twenty years ago. We're like, oh,
who's ever heard of that?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, I know people have heard of this. It's football Friday.
We finally football Friday. Here on the show.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Come on, yeah, come on.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I don't I don't
know why I'm here.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I don't know while I'm here. I'm tired. I'm tired,
and I don't know why i'm here. Hell no, come on,
come out. No no, no, no, won't come up, won't
come up, won't come up.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Won't make me. I won't do it. I won't do it. Okay,
come on, come on, come on, let's let's work for it.
Let's work for it.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Friday night is a football Friday.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Football Friday.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Rock them sock, wake up, Come come on Football Friday.
Here on the show, Brady.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
Quinn give it.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So that story is gonna take a turn pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Here.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
We don't really care about the first round anymore. What
we care about is what's gonna happen this weekend, and
what's gonna happen in the bottom ten.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
That's what I care about.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
This is this is the long shot.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You're hoping to have them.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
It's gonna pay off and line your pockets.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So Brady gave his explosive top ten mock draft yesterday,
and so we decided to dust off something that was
done years ago. I've decided, why don't we go ahead
and do the not even close to being explosive mock draft.
It's the bottom ten of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
and it starts now, and.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Now it's time for Jonas Knoxes.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, nowhere close to being explosive mock draft for two.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I thought you said, Brady, not you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh no, this is me baby, all ready to go whout.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It's perfect. The not top ten is definitely perfect for
you to do.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Let's go number two forty eight and number two forty
eight belongs to the New Orleans Saints and they go wide.
Receiver Efton Chisholm, the third up top Brady. He's five tennis.
He's close to two hundred pounds. Out of Eastern Washington.
Think Julian Edelman, Think Cole Beasley, Think Mike Furry. Most importantly,
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think small, strong and white. Chisholm was a first team
FCS All American and broke Cooper Cup single season receptions record,
finishing with one hundred and twenty catches over thirteen hundred
yards and thirteen touchdowns. Efton Chisholm, the third goes to
forty eight to the same.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
He's actually number.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I like what it h We had no time? Huh?
Who's control that lead back? Then we can talk about
rolling through Jesus numberton number.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The San Francisco forty nine ers hold pick number two
forty nine. Running Back Jaquindon Jackson out of Arkansas started
his career at Texas, transferred to Utah for three seasons
before spending last year with the Razorbacks. A tall running
back six to about two hundred and thirty pounds, named
second team All SEC last.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Year fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Was a quarterback coming out of high school and actually
backed up Cam Rising at Utah for a couple of games.
At this point, it's worth seeing what he got and
maybe a little versatility for Kyle Shanahan and company.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Number two fiftys.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
The Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They stay local offensive tackle Jack Nelson out of Wisconsin.
Last Packers pick for the fans there in Green Bay,
and they stay local with a monster in Nelson.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
He's six seven close to three point twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
His dad played for the Badgers, his brother plays for
the Badgers. This is a perfect spot for Nelson, who
somethink might go a round or two earlier based on
his raw ability. He was also a two time honorable
mention All Big Ten and started fifty games in college.
Much like his dad, who got drafted late back in
nineteen eighty nine in the twelfth round by the Cardinals.
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Jack Nelson goes late here, but does so where the
Nelsons playball in Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Number two fifty one trade.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Alert, Well, you bet your sweet ass it's a trade alert.
In the seventh round, number two fifty one goes from
the Kansas City Chiefs over to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and
the Pittsburgh Steelers Selectorge linebacker Carson Brunner out of Washington.
That name should sound familiar to Steelers fans. Carson is
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the son of former Steelers tight end and Mike Tomlin,
and the organization does the Bruners a solid and takes
Carson here, who at six' one and just shy of
two thirty doesn't have great stats to point to, but
was well respected by teammates as a captain for you
dub and could find a spot on special teams.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Number two fifty two.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Andres bore Gollis sight out again Andres Boa Gollis to
the San Francisco forty nine Ers. He is the top
kicker in the draft. He's out of Miami, number one rated,
and he goes to the Niners, who find another gem
late in the draft in the seventh round. Much like
Brock Purdy, they've had special teams issues. Jake Moody has
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been a bit of a mess, and they're still trying
to replace the great Robbie Gold, who retired a couple
of years ago. But Bori Gallis was a first team
All ACC selection this past year and missed just one
kick all year. Bory Gallis goes to the Niners out
of Miami to replace the legend, hopefully that is Robbie
Gold out of we are Penn.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
State number two fifty three.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
The Miami Dolphins go edge here.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Fidell Digs out of Syracuse, six' four close to two
hundred and sixty pounds with a lot of, experience was
An ALL acc honorable mention last season for The. Orange
diggs was a four star recruit who started At TEXAS
a AND m before transferring To syracuse and was voted
team captain three times over during his college. Career The
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dolphins could use some high character guys with all the
drama going on right, now and they get one here
in the seventh With Fidel diggs there at pick number
two fifty, three.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
But dale number two fifty. Four trade Alert.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Trada, right trade, alert that, is and The New Orleans
saints will send this pick to The Philadelphia eagles and
they will Go Nazir stackhouse out of you guessed, It.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Georgia he's a d. Lineman he went To.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Georgia of, Course Howie roseman and The eagles like this.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Move he can't help.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Himself he adds a two times second Team ALL sec
selection In, stackhouse a run stuffing defensive tackle at six'
four and a smidge just to smidge under three hundred and.
Thirty pounds stackhouse is probably best remembered for his block
field goal in the twenty TWENTY two sec title GAME
against lsu that was returned ninety five yards for. A
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touchdown pick two Fifty Four, nazir Stackhouse another Bulldog, in.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Philly number two.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Fifty, five now this pick originally belonged To The, cleveland
browns where there was a trade. Done yesterday so step
right Up The houston texans and. They Go joshua simon
tight end Out Of. South carolina more of an h backstyle,
tight end he Led the cocks, in catches receiving yards
and receiving touchdowns. Last season he spent the first part
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of his college Career At, western kentucky where he was
voted Second Team ALL. Conference usa at this point in,
the draft he's all upside and, Most importantly houston lands
a guy who played college ball in the State Of.
South carolina that isn't. A Weirdo joshua simon To the
texans a pick two, fifty five.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Number two fifty six.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That belongs TO The, la chargers And the bolts will
go Offensive Tackle miles hinton Out.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Of michigan he played For. Harbad michigan he.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Won a national title there after spending the first part
of his college Career.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
At stanford he's ALSO got.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Nfl pedigree, His Dad, chris hinton actually played thirteen years IN.
The nfl fun fact about, His dad chris was part
of The on. Lway trade he actually was. The swap
the player involved In That john elway Trade On draft
day ended up having a really good career Himself all
Pro Seven pro bowls as an offensive line and his
Son here miles finds a home back with his old
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college coach is as a seventh round pick OF The.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
La chargers and.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Finally two fifty seven it is mister irrelevant time and
it belongs To The Kansas. City chiefs and if you
know Anything About, brett Veach THE chiefs gm he's taken
interior offensive lineman or defensive backs the last. Six years
with his final pick of, the draft and he does it,
yet again and he goes to. State College jalen kimber
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cornerback At A penn state no invite At, The combine kiss.
My ass kimber ran a sub four to Four At
penn State's. Pro day he spent one year in state
college after Time in Florida, and georgia so HE'S got
somesc pedigree as. Well too even though he's listed at
six feet one hundred and eighty, Four pounds kimber is
known for his physicality and. Good tackling he also worked
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in at slot and nickel At The East West, shrine
game which he hadn't done throughout his. College career your
mister irrelevant for twenty Twenty Five jalen kimber.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Out of We Are.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Penn state and that is your bottom ten of the
twenty Twenty FIVE.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
Yeah, nfl, yeah yeah, well, done good.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well done trades everything.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
In that he's so.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like that be sure to catch live Editions Of two
pros And a Cup of Joe With, Brady Quinn, LeVar
Errington And jonas knox weekdays at Six, am eastern Three,
Am pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And we open up the final hour Of This football
friday with a, special guest a man you normally Hear
on wednesdays here on, the show but he is grazing
us with his presence here On This, football friday the
one And Only. Petros papadaikas he is the co host
Of the Petros And, money show which you can hear
On THE blowtorch am, FIVE Seventy, La, Sports fox college
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pop ball analysts and our good. Pal here you can
get THEM on x At the Old p petro's, good morning.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Good, morning hello good morning. To, Everybody helloavar, good. Morning
sir that's on the great coverage. Last night oh, thanks
man thank you. Appreciate that, you know we.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Weren't able to carry IT in la because Of the.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Clipper game, but, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
THAT means i had to actually do the first hour
of the draft on, the show which.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Was fun we had a.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Good time petro's, most importantly how.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
You feel, I'm okay, I'm fine thank you, for Asking
but i'm.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Doing better some people are calling you names on on.
SOCIAL media i didn't know that that was public.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Republican, Something, NO no i, was Misdiagnosed but, I'm right wait?
Speaker 9 (31:46):
What hell?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
What?
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Happened NO that i went TO the.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
I had a bad RASH and i went to the
doctor and they TOLD me i, had shingles AND then i.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Went uh and.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
Then a couple of DAYS later i went back to
the doctor and the doctor was like the other doctor
the dermatologists, was like this.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Isn't SHINGLE so i, Was, LIKE.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
Okay I guess i can go back. Outside again, So,
Anyway yeah. I'm healing i'm.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Doing, better wow, conflicting reports what?
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Are you, you know Just Like urgent Care on easter at.
Eight o'clock, you know sometimes it's good to get a. Second,
opinion yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That's true well did any of those picks yesterday need a?
Speaker 9 (32:24):
SECOND opinion, i mean, you know time.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Will Tell As bob, marley said you think you're, in
heaven but you're really.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
In HELL but i, gotta say, LIKE usually i mean
ninety nine.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
Percent of, THE time i have no time FOR The,
nfl draft which makes me very different from a lot
of people in the.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Sports world the event that it's become is.
Speaker 10 (32:49):
MIND boggling, i mean the fact that there's two hundred
and fifty thousand people, or whatever how many people were there.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
One hundred and fifty, g's yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
YOU know i mean after the past, ackers picked they all,
boned out but it was pretty. And that but that
was really late and. THAT'S impressive i mean just to
see it looked Like.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Farm aide but there's.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
NO band, i mean that's the thing THAT really i
know they have performances, and stuff but that's the thing
that really blows my mind ABOUT the, nfl draft because
nothing happens other than the fact that a guy runs
around in a suit Or, hugs goodell or there's a
heartwarming moment for whoever's announcing, the pick or some nostalgic
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name from the past or some guy and, you're like.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
Who's THAT because i never saw him without a. Helmet
on like all that is.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Going on but it's really INTERESTING because, i mean it
didn't used to be, like THIS or i didn't feel
like it used to be, Like THIS but, I mean
nfl coverage in twenty, twenty five or at least maybe
for the last fifteen, twenty years it's just become like a, douche,
Fest right it's, a douchefest like pre half in post is.
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A DOUCHEVEST like i Gotta Watch, peter schrager, YOU know
i mean it's, you KNOW and I, like peter but
you Know what, i'm saying it's all these guys like
trying to out self important, each other, you know whether
it's rapapoor or the rap sheet, or schefter. YOU know,
i mean it's just these guys in different suits and,
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sweatshirt combos douche.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Out whatever of the good old Days With, beino cook, you,
know right.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
You know he. Wasn't, douche now he was, a drunk old,
white guy but he wasn't.
Speaker 10 (34:34):
A dude but you KNOW what, I mean like when
you WATCH an nfl game OR Watch, Nfl, sunday yeah
there's a lot of douchebaggery with, the reporting but at
a certain point it goes away and you watch the
game and that's what people are tuning in for. The
product it's amazing to me how POPULAR The nfl draft
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is when all it literally is is the douche fest
and the bells and whistles of the doucheri and it's
it's it's amazing how how popular the. EVENT is i have,
TO say i watched the event last night for the
first time and uh in a, long time with a
lot more interest for, one reason and that was the
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same reason maybe a lot of other people were Watching
is schador wasn't, getting drafted and NOT like i expected
him to get drafted or didn't expect him to. GET drafted,
I MEAN I i i am not a breaker down
of tape when it comes to. This stuff i've seen
a Lot of schadure to have my opinions about him
as a. Football analyst but it's really interesting because literally
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You Had, joel klatt our colleague.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
And friend who.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
WAS angry, i mean he was Mad that schadur didn't Get,
picked Lewis the, Lewis, guy ritticks he. Was Pissed mel
kiper was livid to where They Picked jackson Dart And
new york trades back in to Pick That. Jackson dart
They're Playing jackson dart highlights And mel kiper is just Talking.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
About shador, And like schnor didn't, get picked.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
You know and and that's if there's THIRTY two nfl
teams that didn't, pick him that doesn't mean that he's
not going to have a, good career that he's not
going to be a player IN the.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
Nfl and have. An opportunity but it's.
Speaker 10 (36:24):
REALLY interesting, I Mean lewis riddick sat there and said
he could have a better Career Than, tom brady he
could have a better Career Than.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
Patrick mahomes and it's like you did, Say that yes.
He did you know.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
He did i'll play it for you and you. KNOW that,
i mean it just starts to. Get desperate these guys
are TRYING.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
To i don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
What benefit what's the benefit of.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
DOING that i guess you don't want to Piss off
Dion and dion You'd call dion, AND say i mean the.
Same Thing where like you just Heard A colin coward
clip about How old lebron is the one that you
could feel his presence. Out there it's like that's the
only person that. Said that everybody else Is said lebron.
Is slipping, you, know well What does cowhard say? That
For Because maverick carter one of those guys gonna call him,
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and say good, On, You colin we'll give you the.
NEXT whatever, I mean i. Get, it no that's what.
IT is, I mean i.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Get it.
Speaker 10 (37:10):
It's currency but at a, certain point it's like when
every pundit is screaming and whining for something AND the
nfl gms are rejecting it pick after pick. After pick
at a, certain point, it's like WHAT am? I watching,
YOU know espn is sitting here trying to make, fetch
happen and it's it's that made it interesting to me
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just to see how it was playing out and at
THE same, i MEAN and, i mean we can have
a conversation, about it unless you guys want to change.
The topic but it is an interesting thing to me
because you think about it and whether You like shod
as a player, or not or whether you think what
Happened at colorado was a super remarkable sea change of
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college football or that they just did okay.
Speaker 9 (37:59):
Out running a lot of.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
THE expectations, i mean we could have an argument about that.
Or NOT but, i Mean if I'M an, NFL franchise,
i mean do you really how good is he to invite?
THAT in, i mean that's usually, the, weight right the
balance of the scales of justice of football is you
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look at a guy and, you say how good is
he compared to what we have to deal with if we?
Pick him and in some instances it's.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
A yes, you know for.
Speaker 10 (38:35):
DIFFERENT guys, i Mean Obviously johnny manzel is a. GREAT
example i mean huge red flags all the, way around
but somebody was willing to deal with that to try
to develop him as a. Football player other guys for,
different reasons the guy at the Guy From inland Empire,
In Washington, JAYDEN daniels, i mean his mom is with
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him every step of, the way Just like lamar jac
and some people would see that as. A detriment i
know a lot of people see that as. A detriment
but those franchises, have, said, no, no no we'll deal
with that whatever comes, with that and it's working out
pretty well For the Ravens with lamar And For jaden
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daniels IN. D c that's something that, They, said okay
this is all something we've. Heard about these are whispers
that we have to deal with this mom and the
family in a different kind. Of, way okay let's try
to do it and pull. It off and it seems
to be. Working out so that part, of it, you
know just that balance of how good is this guy
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compared to how much of a distraction. He'll be and
if you Bring in shador and he's, not playing somebody's
Gonna ask dion, about it and, You know dion might
criticize YOU. Your gm if he is playing and not,
doing well he might criticize the, old line he might,
make headlines, you know a lot of.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
THAT stuff a lot.
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Of, these maybes uh waight up With what shador actually
is as a, football player that that might have kept
him out of the.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
First round i'm.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
Not sure but but when you think, about IT an
nfl team that brings him in and then some, nightmare
ensues they'd feel pretty stupid because everybody else might have seen.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
IT coming i don't know if you guys get the
same feeling, As me and this isn't apples, to APPLES
but i feel like some of the coverage is starting
to remind me a little Bit Of. Brownie james like IT.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
Just i saw That, on twitter you KNOW what.
Speaker 10 (40:37):
I mean it tells you you're not looking at what you're, looking,
At right but but, YOU know, I MEAN i i
don't think that's fair to should do, herself.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Well, and honestly.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
He's deserved.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
WAY better, i mean they're both going to be second.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Round picks, BUT again i don't want to get caught
up in the, weeds Here but i'm, just saying as
far as the coverage, of it it does feel, like well,
you know the guy who's the guy has nowhere close
to being the best player in, the draft is the
most polarizing player in, the draft all because of a
good amount of.
Speaker 10 (41:07):
The pundits last night on both networks covering, the event
which have. Exclusive coverage we're throwing an.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
On air temper tantrum.
Speaker 10 (41:15):
OVER it, i, mean though seriously to where that was
the whole draft and THAT is, I mean i think
that speaks to. YOUR point, i mean and and a
lot of people said last night in, social, media sorry
ESPN's whole pr.
Speaker 9 (41:31):
Push couldn't get this. Guy draft and it's, TRUE.
Speaker 10 (41:36):
Though, i mean and it just goes, TO show, i
mean there's such a thing as, media pressure and there's
such a thing as kind of a. General consensus but
these guys are not going to be bullied into picking
somebody they don't want to pick before they have to.
Pick them and the market IN the nfl is the
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biggest meritocracy there is in the world as far as
bringing a player in and that whole person and what
it means to. The franchise these things are gigantic investments
nowadays and the value of it all is just rocketed
and the market tells you what your. Value IS and
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i think that was a really hard lesson last night
for everybody who thinks that they can just Go on
they have so much power just GOING on tv and
screaming into a camera about something they think is favorable
for them to say because of one reason. Or another
the market IN the nfl tells you. What's WHAT and
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i do think that that it got to the point
where it was just kind of gross last night where,
it's like can this? Guy smile? You know is he
that Mad about shador that he? CAN'T smile, i mean
how angry are these guys that he's not getting picked
for one reason? Or another and that was really it
probably shouldn't, have been but very entertaining.
Speaker 9 (42:57):
For me.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
You know you Know what i've been trying to understand
because there's so much to be talked about and discussed about.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
The draft BUT what.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
I don't understand is, is, How, LIKE okay i Get
it's dion AND and i, get that, you know it's
the capital and all that stuff that's connected.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
TO it i.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
UNDERSTAND that i just help, Me, understand uh why how
do you become that big of a storyline and we're
not even really discussing like nuts the nuts if you, ask,
ME right, i mean.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
But that's colorado football the last couple of. Years too so.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
It's like you create a smoke screen of impact. And effect?
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Is that is that what this really comes, down TO because,
i mean think. About it we're, retiring jerseys, you know
we're up For, The heisman we're heading into. The draft
we're talking top, five pick and he has dominated the
narrative and the storylines of this, entire draft maybe Outside Of,
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travis hunter maybe even.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
The entire college.
Speaker 9 (44:13):
Football. Season, YEAH no i think you're right in a lot.
Speaker 10 (44:18):
Of ways and you wonder how much of it is
merited and how much of it is just a, Media
EVENT and i mean it's probably, sixty forty, you know
and it is unfortunate because but, you know if, it
works if, it bleeds. It Leads and colorado football is,
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getting ratings whether, or not if they're mediocre or just
a little bit, above mediocre or how much, they've improved
all of that is relative to how many people. Are
watching so if, THE market, i mean that's the flip
side of. The coin if the market's telling you everybody
wants to watch The door sanders or the circus That,
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is colorado or the circus that's having a little bit
more success That. In colorado if you're looking at year two,
last year which was a lot, more impressive but still
not good enough to really challenge for the big twelfth
title or anything.
Speaker 9 (45:14):
Like that.
Speaker 10 (45:16):
The market dictated. That too people want, to watch and
it became a. Big TOPIC but i do think at
a certain point it's a responsibility of.
Speaker 9 (45:24):
The networks to try to just water down. The coverage.
Speaker 10 (45:27):
You know what it reminds me a little Bit of
LeVar Is The lonzo, ball thing. YOU know i Mean
That lonzo ball got picked By the lakers because and, everybody's,
like well you Can't blame magic, for that.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
It's just a.
Speaker 10 (45:41):
Local pressure and, it's, like well people, look back not
even like five, years later which is usually the way
to judge, a draft but people look back like a,
year later and they, were, like well what about This?
Deeron fox what About This? Jason tatum what the hell
were you.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Guys Doing petro's magic said that his jersey was going
up in. THE rafters i think it was right next
To The taylor swift banner.
Speaker 10 (46:01):
Or something see that was a media, event, Too right
like that was a total. Media Event the LeVar ball
was Going On colin cowherd and fighting With that leahy
chick whatever happened.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
To her uh you.
Speaker 10 (46:17):
KNOW what, I mean like every day, it was oh.
My god lvar said he Could Beat michael jordan one, on.
One loh LeVar said he could. Win Motorcross so, LaVar said,
YOU know i mean it just. Never stopped LaVar could
Win la mon's uh, and uh it just.
Speaker 9 (46:31):
Kept going, and going and it became a.
Speaker 10 (46:33):
Media event lonzo ball, got picked and then the dust kind,
of settled and media people wondered If the lakers didn't
kind of get bullied. INTO that, I Mean magic johnson's excuse,
WAS literally i we had great waffle strawberry Pancakes And,
chino HILLS so.
Speaker 9 (46:50):
I picked i mean it, was amazing it.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Really was we got good strawberries Out, in, Chino right.
Speaker 9 (46:57):
But that but that was. A situation you're right about
that great.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
Agricultural area they got good strawberries Out, in china, really.
Speaker 9 (47:03):
Yeah, no doubt, very agricultural Not.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Just oxnard they got Them.
Speaker 9 (47:07):
IN china i played football with some good players From.
Speaker 10 (47:10):
The nard there, You Go Nardcore, Kerry Colbert, Jacob Rogers,
chad Pearson Co, kerry colbert.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
You get, Over That. Camerio gray it's a whole. DIFFERENT
world I.
Speaker 10 (47:22):
Remember kerry colbert tried to drive on my, recruiting trip,
you know because we, WERE all, i mean on his.
RECRUITING trip i was, his host and he, was like,
you SURE maybe i. Should drive, you know we had
a car full, of IDIOTS and i, was, like dude,
you're black This Is, SOUTH central i.
Speaker 9 (47:35):
GOTTA drive i had to tell him about, you know
he Was.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
From oxnard pet A guy i mean back in the
back of.
Speaker 9 (47:46):
The Nineties In south Central. Lav army, COME on i.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Get it petro's the guy that you were spoke very
highly of in your deal.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
Over on, his recruiting in, your dealings.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
In your dealings with him throughout the worse of, Calling Games.
Ashton gent he ends up With. The, Raiders yeah and
as the draft, got closer more and more people were
kind of echoing your sentiment throughout the course. Of it,
great kid, great player that's one that feels like it's
gonna work at the.
Speaker 10 (48:14):
Next, LEVEL yeah, I mean i love, the PLAYER and
i got to see him a. Whole, lot ever since
his true freshman Year, at boise and he had a
lot of wear and tear. LAST year, i mean they
gave him so many carries and he was literally carrying the,
whole town the, whole conference the whole blue, turf deal
all the way to how far, they got which was
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maybe the greatest Season in.
Speaker 9 (48:38):
Boise history but you have to look.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
At him in an. Interesting way he was a. Slot guy,
you know he.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
Grew Up in italy.
Speaker 10 (48:47):
And stuff he heard the story because the, military family
and he Came to texas and he was a slot
guy for a, little while started playing running back when
he Got. To boise he didn't start his freshman and soft.
MORE year, i mean he played and you could tell he.
Was good but there was a Guy Named george holani
who was a running Back, from servite same Place as
(49:10):
tetoa McMillan And mason graham who got picked. Last night
survilled high school in Uh In, Los Angeles orange county
area And the friars.
Speaker 9 (49:19):
And.
Speaker 10 (49:22):
Yeah, and uh it's. It was it was interesting just
to see kind of how that. Played out, And Uh
george hollani was their Starter and jenti kind of kind
of sort of, Spelled him and it really wasn't until
like midway through last year and then and or midway
through two years ago and last YEAR where i, Was,
(49:43):
like wow this guy's a really special. Running back he's
really hard. TO tackle, i mean he's got so many
of the weird intangibles and the great attitude and and
a lot of the. Physical gifts but he his will
to not get tackled.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
Is amazing. He's.
Speaker 10 (49:56):
Jacked yeah and then there's two, Things too Like That
cam scataboo is like, that, too Right That arizona state
white guy that looks like.
Speaker 9 (50:04):
A criminal i mean you could take.
Speaker 10 (50:07):
The sack you could Take the sacramento out of the small.
COLLEGE back i mean you could take the small college
back Out. Of sacramento you can't Take.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
The Sacramento And cam's scataboo does look like a guy
who would go to lock up in, two weeks have,
a cheer he'd have a tear.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Drop tattoo but he's.
Speaker 9 (50:23):
Getting sued for like breaking some guy's hip on a. Golf.
Speaker 10 (50:27):
Cart yeah but like the Thing About cam scataboo is
and he might have a VERY good, NFL career i.
Speaker 9 (50:33):
Don't KNOW and i loved him as.
Speaker 10 (50:35):
A back but if he broke, a tackle which he,
often did very difficult to tackle one on one a Lot,
like genty he goes another two three yards past. That
Point if genty breaks, your tackle he can really scatter
away from you. Accelerate quickly and that was really the
(50:55):
thing That set genty apart aside from all the really
special things he does in the box as, a back.
Speaker 9 (51:02):
It was the fact that he.
Speaker 10 (51:03):
Could turn, you know what's a good twelve to fifteen
yard run for, most backs and he. Goes seventy he
finds a way to keep. It going he has a
plan down, the field and that is. REALLY remarkable i
mean you could see his long runs and just how
he keeps. On going and when you have a game
(51:24):
where you have twenty five thirty carries and you're ripping
off thirty forty, YARD runs i mean that that guy
was a was a real battery powered animal. Last YEAR
and i can't wait to see what he does With.
Speaker 5 (51:36):
The raiders well.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Get HIM on x at the Old P petros papadgas
the co host Of The Petros, money show which you
can hear On the blowtorchs The. L, SPORT.
Speaker 6 (51:48):
Well i WAS saying i was, saying, earlier, DUDE dude,
I mean i feel like there's the possibility he does
if you if you've talked all this, about him and
if the value is what people were trying to make
it out, to be he goes in the. First round
so the fact that he didn't go in the, first
round would you.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Be surprised if he slipped out of.
Speaker 9 (52:07):
A second i.
Speaker 10 (52:08):
Think everybody all these guys are looking at each other IN,
the nfl, said no you, do it you, do it,
YOU know i mean you DEAL with i mean and in,
many ways Like t bow Or, like kaepernick, you know
in one way or, the other it's like you want
to invite the circus into. Your town whether it's right
or wrong to, Go ahead we don't.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
WANT to, I, mean petros there's actually a good chance
he might get drafted while you guys are on the
air later.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Get him on AT The olp hey brun
Speaker 4 (52:43):
As funny, As, hell bro
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