April 29, 2025 • 50 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, physicality continues to shine in the NBA Playoffs. Why sports were better back in the day and much more! Bill Belichick and his girlfriend go viral for a dumb interview and NFL Insider, Pete Prisco breaks down The Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
with lamar as rating Winn and Jonas knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Lat's back so far, sub player play boys? What's what's up?
My g Lavarrington? Oh god, why is there a lighter
in here? I don't know somebody up in here? Oh
you missed it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There's a roll of toilet paper sitting there for some reason. Yeah,
just randomly, so there, Yeah, let's go far. Yeah, all right, okay, whatever,
he's back roll with toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't know about that, but so I know anything
about it. I'll just say this, what are you going
to say? I could watch the Warriors and the Rockets
play each other for the rest of the playoffs and be.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Content they turned up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's not even like that could have basketball, Like, neither
one of those teams has got a shot in hell
against OKAC.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But it is borderline violence.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The first half.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
The Rockets are a really good team. It was great.
Leet was freaking dealing. I'm saying you said they don't
have a chance against Oka. See like they're playing really well.
But if Jimmy Butler can get healthy, like he's still
you can tell he's tender. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't
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look himself last night. So sore. Sore, Yeah, I mean
he you know, he was in there. He powered through.
But if he can get healthy and play at at
his top level, they they can get through. Okay, see
they can they.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I was actually shocked they were able to win last night.
I mean just because we've talked about this before, right, Yeah,
it's it's tough. It's tough for them to be able
to win without Jimmy Butler. I mean, he didn't play,
didn't play Game three. Houston's the better team. They have more,
they have more pieces, they have more parts. But but
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they're not down. Yeah, they just don't know how to
play against this. This the leadership and what what Steph
Curry brings and what what Draymond brings to the table is.
It's just it's different. You gotta be able to handle that.
There there has to be a level of I don't know,
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I don't know what it is. I don't want to
say level of maturity because I think that you know,
Van Vliet and those guys.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think there's enough. There's enough guys that are old
enough to understand it. I just don't think that they're
seasoned enough to be and and and the record proves
that they're like four to oh against Houston and in
playoff series. So it's it's it's kind of historic. And now, granted,
these kids, these these guys are too young to have
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been a part of all of those you know, those
those times they lost. But Houston has not had great
success against the Warriors in the playoffs. So I don't know,
I just think that these guys are out classing them,
they're outwitting them because they're not they're not more athletic,
and they're not better like on paper, they're not better
than the Houston Rockets.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So you know, I mean, it's not the first time
that we've broken this game down, or this series down.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Rather as far as how it was going to go.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Let's take a listen, and all of a sudden, we've
got a series because Jimmy Butler's got to get an
MRI because he's got a pelvit contusion.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They're calling it. That's a rap. They don't got a series.
That's that that was a quick turn that that party.
If you're a Golden State Warriors fan, that party died
out quick. Geez. They can't do it with out without
Jimmy Buckets man fandul. It was gonna be a good
series in terms of it would be competitive, but Golden
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State I felt like would outclass them and having two
scores of the caliber of of Curry and Butler would
be too much for for a really really talented Rockets team.
But now, yeah, the tables turn.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
It's only one game, right, it's one one still, you know,
you never know? I mean this, This Golden State team
has rallied sometimes with Steph Curry having help.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Them and not, so I'm not counting them out.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It only takes one Steph Curry in Fuego shooting night
that to get them right back in this. So I
wasn't on thirty six points in Game three, by the way.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I wasn't on air like since he since they like
that game, I hadn't been on air. But I didn't
know jim I thought Jimmy might be out due to
that injury. Like, I mean, not what I said. The
State the statement was correct and they I.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Mean, yeah, he missed Game three and they won.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. All I'm saying is it was going to be
a rap. If Jimmy Butler did not come back in
and play, it was going to be a rap. That's
why they won game won Game three, so what, so what?
Speaker 7 (05:18):
That's why they're up three to one.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like I said, they barely won last night.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Yeah, with Jimmy Butler, they barely.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Won Game three. M Butler.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
He didn't have Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I know they didn't blow them out.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah they took it, Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What was the score? I don't even remember game game three?
I mean you mean Game two.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Steph Curry dropped thirty six, and I.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Don't think they blew him out. They haven't blown them
out once. One O four ninety three. That's a blowout.
I guess it could be considered that. Yeah, one eleven.
I stand by it. I still stay still stand by that.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'll stand by Dylan Brooks is trying everything he possibly
can do Jimmy Butler to swing on him.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He's trying everything he can. He's trying to get he's
trying to get all of them. He's like a He's
like a poor man's version of Draymond. I love him.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I know people like to bury him because they well,
you know, he's just out there.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's not even playing basketball. He's a one scoring at
the beginning of the game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, he's out there at all their critical moments.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
He's on the floor.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He's he's trying as much as he possibly can. He's
limited on offense, but trying everything he can do. Like
he's a throwback player, Like this is a throwback series,
which is why it's that so entertaining. And I was
actually kind of surprised that the TNT crew when they
went to halftime was complaining about the style of basketball.
It was because like that, that's kind of their style
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of basketball.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's what they've been calling for.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Is especially when you watch that awful Calves heat game
and whatever the hell that that's a blowout.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That was a blowout. That's what I would call a
blow It's total dumb. I mean, they didn't even have
to put Donovan Mitchell back in. I don't even know
why they put him back in the game.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Miami almost lost my sixty.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, I don't even know that they showed up to
the arena. Those are fill in How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't like, how do you like imagine having you know,
clean imagine having Miami plus fifty and being like, yeah,
of course I'll take that bet and still losing wild
But there it is. The you know, the Cleveland Cavaliers
are on their way to the next round. But last night,
the star of that of that game was the star
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of the night in the NBA playoffs was Rockets Warriors.
And I'm really hoping the game it goes sevens would
can get as many games possible.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But it feels like skin it over quick.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Why can't we get this style of basketball for the
other eighty two in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's too much, too much, too much basketball to be played.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
It didn't used to be, didn't use that's.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
To me, that's and it's so funny we said this
style of basketball last night, like that's how the old
NBA used to be. Like people used to beat each
other up. I was telling my son because he's so
on this Lebron train, and I was telling him, I
was like, dude, I was like, I was like, I
don't know what type of career Steph Curry would have
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had or Lebron would have had in that early those
early days. It's like Lebron has had longevity, He's had
a run for a really long time of being dominant.
I said, he doesn't get beat up on like these
other guys. So he asked me. He asked me the question.
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He poses the question. He said, who do you think
is better? Since we're always talking about Lebron and Mike.
He is like, he's like, who you think is better? Yo,
Kic or Bird? And he's like looking at it like
this is like like a redundant question or like a
rhetorical question. I was like, dude, if I got to
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be honest, I'm going with Bird. And it's not because
I'm older than you. It's not that I'm taking a
shot at the younger generation and what they're I said,
skill wise, skill I said, it's not even close how
how much more skilled players are these days because of
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how specialized the training is. But you had to endure
like you had to endure a season back when those
guys played. Oh, if you want to look it up,
Jo Kich has three league MVPs. You know how many?
Bird has three? And did them all back to back
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to back. He did three times in a row. Jokic
took a year off, you know, in terms of amounts
of NBA first teams. Berd kills it. He's got two
more championships than than Jokic, And he was like, yeah,
but you're talking about the team. You're talking about team.
I said, well, those accolades are connected to him as well.
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And so, for what it's worth, because I had the
conversation about the Paul Pierce, what Paul Pierce brought up,
if some way, somehow Steph Curry ends up, let's just say,
for the sake of said, Steph Curry ends up winning
the NBA World title this year, he will effectively be
in pole position, perfect position to be considered the player
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of this era. And how do you how do you
make sense of it? If he has more championships then
Lebron James and the Lebron James era of time, and
we're having the conversation about him being the goat, Well.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
He already does have more titles than him, because Lebron's
got three and a half and Steph Curry's got four.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, uh, what.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
I would actually would actually.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Got a half ring and it's actually the it's tied together.
It's got N ninety five fabric on the back end
to tie it together.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I would already give him the benefit of the doubt,
though at least as far as like the most recent
only because of the impact he's had on the game,
like Steph Curry's impact.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
And it's one of the reasons why Kaitlyn Clark I
think has.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Been so attractive for so many you know, female basketball players,
is just their ability to do something that you know
anyone can do. Lebron is such a specimen and an
Adonis that no one's gonna be born like that with
with the physical gift and athleticism to dunk, to fly
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through the air, to play the way he's playing at forty.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
There's just there's not many people who are built to
be able to do that.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
But everyone can relate to shooting a three.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Shoot, you know, hitting a shot, you know, shot from
the logo, and and that's where I think there's that
attraction to how Steph Craig plays.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I just I go back to us talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Like the style of basketball and enduring it to me
the strategy behind it, because you saw Minnesota doing it
with Lebron what two nights ago now, and you see
what Houston kind of does, or at least you know Dylan
Brooks is trying to do and you can be as
skilled as you want. I think this is what like
younger generations don't seem to understand, is you can be
as talented.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And skilled as you want.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
But once you get punched in the mouth, then it
changes time. And that's the thing is and here and
hear me out. So this is going to go on
a long, long little trail here. No, kids don't fight anymore,
like like when they grow up. It's not the same
as what it used to be, where you know, you
wouldn't be able to just say whatever you want on
social media or say whatever you want on the playground.
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You get popped in the face and that actually was
like a real life.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Lesson and you don't from me, well exactly most times
most times you got you got away with it.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
But then other thing was you didn't snitch right, like
like you knew that. Like if Johnny hits you, it
was Johnny stare at you in class, He's like, oh, yeah,
did I hit you in the face or did you fall?
And you're like, oh, I fell, But like that that's
the that's the reality of what like people grew up
with in the older generations was there are consequences for
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your actions.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And you had to be responsible and accountable for those actions.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
And nowadays you look at you know, and just and
this even applies to the draft and the prank can
all that stuff and what just happened.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
This applies to a.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Lot of things, but it applies to I think the
game the way it's played, because now you look at
how they're trying to neutralize a lot of skill and
talent with getting in their heads, playing that with that
sort of physicality, and some guys are like, what do
I do.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I don't like this.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
They look to the reps like do something. It's like, no, man,
this is this is what like grade school one oh one.
You got to figure out a solution on your own,
and you have to be tough. You have to endure,
as you guys said, and kind of work through this.
But that's one of the reasons why I go back
to saying, like, why can't we get this in the
other eighty two games during the regular season. I wish
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we had a team that wanted to embody with The
Detroit Pistons used to be like, I wish someone took
that approach for eighty two games.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, the New Pistons kind of tried like they
were in a bunch of skirmishes. They were in a
bunch of like them and the Rockets are probably the
most physical teams in the NBA as far as you know,
wanting to wanting to play that style of basketball. And
they're both really talented but still probably a couple of
years away from being legitimate contenders in either common But
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even looking at how their style of play has been
in the playoffs, that doesn't even like the old Pistons, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Like you gotta underst that, like the way they fouled
was just different. It's different than how guys get fouled anymore.
Did you see? So when like that technical on Draymond,
like for his like hitting him in the hit with
his leg and stuff like that, Like some of these
calls is like they're so ticky tech called, like dudes
were literally I told my son, I said, could you
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imagine Robert Parris turning around at seven foot and cold
cocking you in the face, like punching you in the
face a teme to dream seven footer turn around, open hand, bitch,
slap you.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
The Draymond that felt like that was because it was Draymond.
That that's why he got, he got the technical for it,
the Jimmy Butler when he chased down Dylan Brooks. I
was actually happy that they didn't call a tech on
that like that that wasn't or they didn't call a
flagrant on that. Why would they exactly because Brooks threw
himself on the ground and they just looked at it
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and said, let him play on. And then there was
another time where he shoved Dylan Brooks down when they
were talking to each other on the foul line, and
they just let it play.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I was like, okay, for.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
All the criticism that officials get and deservedly, so, those
were a couple of moments where they're like, no, no, no,
it's the play.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean even the other night with Aunt and Lebron right,
it's like he got up in his chest. How many
times are you ever going to see that? Like you understand,
MJ and them had to handle that. Isaiah Thomas, you
name it, Charles Barkley, they had to handle that. Even
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Kobe I said, now you gotta think you got damn
too soon anyway shouts out the code. I just think
that when you think about it, And I was telling him,
I said, it's like that in football too. It's like that.
In football, the physicality of the game was being legislated out,
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like towards the end of Tom Brady's career, legislated out.
So when I look at guys now, I don't necessarily
measure and weigh them almost the same exact way I
would when you were especially quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks, And then
I would throw receivers in there on a second, like
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there was a time I'll never forget the Super Bowl
where ty Law was sitting Hall of Fame, which ty
Hall of Fame. Ty Law was sitting Marvin Harrison down
on the bench. He was jamming that man up so
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serious on the ball that he was driving him all
the way to the bench and sat him down on
the bench. And you know what, the league did, get
these cast five yards. We can't had that. We can't
had that. When you start now, then the concussions epidemic hits.
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Now you gotta contend with that. It's just it's not
the same game you had to survive in a different time.
In both the NBA and the NFL, it's not survival now.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It's also the NHL because while we celebrate Ovechkin for
breaking the record. Gretzky's era completely different, like he was
getting mugged, so him being able to do what he
did at that time. Like now it's everything's opened up,
you know, after the lockout or whatever it was, they
you know, they got rid of the two line pass
and all that stuff, so they opened up the offense.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But yeah, it does feel like it's different.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Every sport has now realized we've got to figure out
a way to cater towards the offense.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And scoring is the key. That's the bottom line. Scoring
is the key, and in some situations, the well not some.
In in most situations, the star is the star, and
and football that's that's that's the quarterback and somewhat the receiver.
And then basketball it's the face. Whatever the face of
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that team is, that guy's going to be protected.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
So you got to blame TV then, as ultimately there's
two things, TV and fantasy, because ultimately rating show people
don't like watching.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Low scoring games. They just don't.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
There's examples of it, I'm sure you can find in
big games because everyone's watching. But we kind of how
it can only blame ourselves to a degree if that's
the case, and the reason I'm saying again, people feel
like they don't they don't appreciate watching defensive sports. It
could be basketball, it could be hockey, it could be anything.
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And some people talk about, like, hey, why do you
like soccer? They don't score enough. It's one of the
biggest gripes. It's like, well, you can't appreciate, like all
the opportunities that lead to that that one opportunity that scores,
or maybe it was just that one opportunity that you score,
you know, saying like it's it's partially TV's fault that
if that's how you're looking at it, because ratings have
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a direct correlation with scoring.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know who else should be upset? Are these these athletes?
They should be upset because they run the risk of
never being like if you think about it, these athletes
are not as as defined and as legitimized as athletes
in the past. You don't have the type of like
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you had way more established brands in the NBA back
in the day. You had way more established brands in
terms of players in the NFL back in the day.
And you know why, because in football you had to
be a warrior. Whether you were a receiver, I could
give you four other receivers outside of Jerry Rice, Andre Reid,
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Tim Brown, who else? Michael Irving, Art Monk Art Monk. Yeah,
you had brands like you had established Webster Slaughter. Well,
come on, and he ain't even like a par Echelants
But you don't remember the name, but bb.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Don baby off top Rady.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
All I'm saying is you had to have brands because
they had to survive. I respected a dude getting hit
and flipped and landing on his head and getting back
up and playing like nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
By the way, and that was part of the highlight package.
Guy looked like he got paralyzed, Don Bibi La and
they're like, hey throw that in just to bring.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
This back to basketball for a second.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Do you kind of feel like Adam Silver just doesn't
seem like the type of guy that once that wants
that heat.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, he's too I'm going to look at your.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Like, he probably doesn't want to physical.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Too much, complaining. Man, you've already you've already. They should
feel that way. Yeah, they should feel like it should
be a more physical game and more like that. But
he does look forget about physicality.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
He's probably like I gotta wash my handle, touch me.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What do you think is how from them? From them?
He looked like from the Adams family.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Tell me, I'm just look at how in conductions, But that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Dude looks like he's from the Adams family too. Howie
Howie what's his name, Howie Howie Man. Yeah, he looked
like you know, I met him in person and didn't
know about his germaphoe ways. I went to like shake
his hand, he was like, oh you all know, honey,
like put his fist out. I was like, af your
fists man, my face, damn give me one a million
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dollar boxes.
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Speaker 3 (22:57):
Let's take a listen, because we do have a pair
of an update on this whole fiasco that went down.
This was Bill Belichick being interviewed by CBS over the
weekend with his girlfriend in the background, Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You have Jordan right, over there.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested
in it. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Never been too worried about what everybody else thanks, just
to try to do what I.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Feel like is that's for me? And what's right?
Speaker 8 (23:35):
How did you guys meet not talking about this?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No, no, it's a topic neither one of them is
comfortable commenting on. And what world do you rock like that?
With Bill Belichick? Man, hasn't he always been one in charge?
She is in charge, my ge.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
According to TMZ, that awkward, uncomfortable situation was even worse.
TMZ is reporting that Bill Belichick's disastrous CBS interview was
worse they had to cut out thirty minutes from it.
Jordan Hudson stormed out in the middle of it and
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expected Bill a follower. So not only was it really
really awkward in what aired and why it was even done,
We were talking about it yesterday a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Like why even do it? What was the point of it?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Because she's sitting there basically running point on the production
of everything and telling everybody what you can and cannot
talk about. And now we find out it was even
worse than that, and she stormed out, got a bit
of a red ass herself, decided to bail on the interview,
and apparently was expecting him to follow her. And I'm
not sure that he did, which may lead to some
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some more issues they got.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's what you call a laugh. Why you know, you
touch a lot wire? You know what happened? You get shocked?
You know, I just there's there's a little more.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh, go ahead, just go ahead, point out, please do,
please do it's According to TMZ Sports, the whole ordeal
isn't sitting well with Bill's employers. We're told folks at
North Carolina are now concerned about Hudson's influence on Belichick's
tenure as the head football coach in Chapel Hill, especially
with her essentially taking.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
On a role as his manager.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
As a source put it, there's a quote growing sense
this could become a problem. It could be if the
school is already saying, hey, man like that, this is
an issue.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, I can just imagine what that's like behind
the scenes. That is crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I told you there under your head, that's crazy. You
couldn't find a glass.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's crazy. You want to talk about crazy ass hours.
That's why I was pointing out that is crazy. And
you know what else is crazy? This story And I'm
gonna tell you why, because this kind of screams. This
kind of screams there has to be a trade off
for me to be dealing with your old ass.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
What trade off is that?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I don't know, like you and power, Hey, what would
you rather have Shannon Sharp or Bill Belichick? I just say,
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I'm just saying, would you rather have your your ass
under wraps? And then you know, like and only reason why,
I mean, really, let's make these comparable. There are significant
age gaps in between the man and the woman in
both of these scenarios.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Here's the the part that was just weird that I didn't.
I know, we all talked about it whatever, but it
was like, yeah, you know, he's older than her and
she's this and that. It's like, hey, listen, you know
he's single, he's doing his thing, file whatever, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Not our business. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I didn't actually grasp how weird it was until the
guy who was doing the interview for CBS described it
and said the following.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You know, Bill, we've seen you.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Know a lot of You've always had a really private life,
but we've seen now it's been on Instagram. There was
pictures of you and Jordan. You were on the beach.
You were dressed up as a fisherman. She was dressed
up as a mermaid.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, she's she's she's orchestrating the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Wait, wait, wait, what can I remember?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I remember seeing it in real time at the time
and being like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She's orchestrating the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Would you describe it like that?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's Bill Belichick dressed as the vandicamp's mascot.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, while she's I'm laying on on whatever it is.
The surface that they were on a boartwalk.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's long John silver and he's got the stunt double
from Splash on.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
The sand and they're taking it stupid.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think it was a boardwalk. It was like a
pair or something. I saw the fix. All I'm saying is, Bro,
there's always a There's always a backstory. Bro, There's always
a backstory. And the shorty girl for Sharp made it
very clear she's a only fans type cat like twenty
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five G's a cheek. There's a price to be paid
when you're giving up that many years, that much mileage.
There's a price to be paid. Now what that price is,
I don't know, but her actions and her activities are
making it a public conversation. And for Bill Belichick to
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now be where he's at, it almost makes him a
person now. And the reason why I think Bill Belichick
had such a superpower in New England was that we
did not think he was of this planet. He didn't
handle things in a normal manner. He didn't talk to
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you in a normal manner, almost like an alien. And
because he won, you left him on the hell alone.
He he's now, he's like he's like Superman at the
bar after he left and said he ain't want to
be Superman anymore. You sitting there and you think you
Superman until do pop you in your lip and you're like,
what what's that? What's that? I'm bleeding? That's that owl?
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That hurt? Like I'm bleeding? Like, hey, Bill, you got
to move on. Yes, man, Hey, let me tell you something,
and you got to do it now because I don't care.
She's the same age as you. If she's interfering and
interrupting and injecting herself into the conversations into your business
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that way, that's bad for business.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, Like, well, and now you're bad for business and
legitimately bad for business if your employers are like, hey,
this is a problem, Like this is a problem because
now it's in question, Like I don't care, Like you
want to deal with a little kid as long as
she's she's of age, she's she's legal.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
That seems to be what the new trend is lately,
like get them soon as they turn eighteen or it's nineteen.
I don't know if that's your deal. I guess that's
you know, just don't do it with my daughters. But
in the end, in the end, if they are inserting
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themselves into your world where they're suing you for fifty
million dollars and turning down ten million dollars, or they're
injecting themselves into scenarios that where you're representing yourself and
your business and the institution that you're coaching for, and
that is turning into a thing, and y'all don't know
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how to handle it any better than that, then don't
have her there. If you if you need to not
have her around don't have her around. You knew something
was going to be interesting by the way she was
dressed out the spring game.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's a spring game.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
If you don't take that ass off and put on
some some sweatpants and a North Carolina sweatshirt with some
sneakers and walk your hands on and off that field
if you want to with a clipboard, fine, but you
got on you look like you had on like a
ten fifteen thousand dollars outfit an for spring.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Let me check this out, and their football team ain't
even like that.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Oh yeah, yeah something.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It just this, Jonas. What this does and what it
creates is, like you said, now, it forces the questions
to be asked, And now you gotta start answering the
questions because the questions are going to keep coming. And
now there's more questions because now you're like intrigued, like
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hold on, something ain't right here, Something don't seem right,
some don't feel right. Why does this lady feel so
entitled to be able to handle things? Ain't nobody else's
girlfriend's wife, side pieces, ain't no baby mama's Ain't nobody
else's handling things like this? Why are you doing this now?
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Why are you doing this, and all them questions ain't
going away, and Bill, you're going to have to either
start answering them or you gotta get rid of her.
Got to go. It was fun while it lasted. You
probably have had the greatest time of your life. But
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just like anything else, all good things must come to
an end.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
What do you think they were doing? They're sitting at
home like it was a Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
They're flipping around. They start watching Deadliest Catching, like you
know what, we could do that too. Bruh, here you
fall out of a crab. All he wants to do
is football, dress up like a fisherman off.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
She them blew his mind? She pause, see them blown,
not man's mind, and now he ain't thinking straight. Even
the great Bill Belichick can fall victim. That's that. Yeah,
that is well, that's what I meant about what I said.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Hey, listen, man, maybe that was up part of that
walk of shame.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Remember that walk of shame. I mean, he don't have
no shame, he's Bill Belichick, but now it's starting to
become common knowledge.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Shamee.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh no, Shae, oh no, shame oh no, oh shamee.
All right, let's go to Shane let's go to I just,
I just, I'm just saying, like the way she's Sunday,
she sudden the interviewer and she was trying to son,
Bill Belichick. Don't you dare open your mouth while Bill
Belichick is talking? Who do you think you are to
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open your mouth during a Bill Belichick interview? The reporters
don't even open their mouths to the to that dang
Bill Belichick. And you're sitting over there telling Bill Belichick
and the reporter what they ain't gonna do.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 9 (35:36):
What's up, guys?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
How are you why your boy fall apart like that man?
Speaker 8 (35:40):
That was ridiculous because you know why, because he made
a football evaluation based on what he thought he saw
in the league, sent out a message on what they saw,
and he got angry about it. I mean, look, here's
the problem with draft evaluations. Nobody can ever admit they're wrong.
Teams are wrong, GM's are wrong, coach are wrong, evaluators
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are wrong, media analysts are wrong.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
We all get it wrong.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
So why can't you admit it? He was wrong to
door Sanders was not the number four overall player industry raft.
He never was, and for anybody if you go back
and look at it, I'm one of the few guys
in the entire industry that thought he would be a
second round pick in who they should mock draft?
Speaker 9 (36:21):
He wasn't in it.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
In my final mock draft, he wasn't in it. Should
he have been a third round pick probably based on
what based on the play. You know, everybody wants to
bring in every other issue involved here. They want to
say it's his dad. They want to say it was
his bad interviews. And yet his interviews weren't great, and
he was stand office at times and teams were turned
off by.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Him a little bit.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
But the reality is the reason he wasn't drafted in
the first round is because he doesn't have the traits.
He's not a big guy, he doesn't have a powerful arm,
he's not athletic, he doesn't move great, and he holds
the football. That's the bottom line. If he were same
exact scenario, same exact scenario, same situation, didn't interview well,
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doesn't have as a father who's very involved, nobody wants
to father around in the same exact scenario. And he's
six foot five and he's got a cannon for an arm,
and he can stand in and make all the throws.
He goes first overall, bottom line, end of.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Story, Pete, what do you make of just sort of.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
The there was like when Dylan Gabriel went and Jalen
Milroe went before that and all that, it was like, well,
you know he's dropping because of this, he's dropping. And
then the coverage became and I and I sort of
wondered if NFL teams were looking at it, and the
coverage of him falling and going, this is exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Why we don't want this.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
This is exactly why, because even he doesn't get drafted,
and there's the circus that surrounds it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Look, he's like.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
They bring a lot of this on themselves, but facts
are facts. I mean, like, why would you want a
lad backup and a loud locker room similar to the
Kaepernick stuff, similar to the Tim Tebow stuff, Like there's
been other examples of this. But people looked at this
as he was being victimized and the prank calls and everything, like,
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what was your take on just sort of the coverage
of the whole thing while it was transpiring?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
It was unfair to every other player was drafted.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Did you know that cam Ward went first overall?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
No, you don't, because all anybody talked about was shood
door Sanders, shoe do or Sanders shud door Sanders And
it's ridiculous. And you know, I went on after he
got drafted and I said, my long national nightmare is
finally over. I mean, I can go on with my life.
It was unreal, the media coverage and the moaning and
groaning and crying. You mentioned Mel Kuiper. Look, Mel's done
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this for a long time. He's got plenty wrong. Okay,
we all have but to sit there and say. And
the things that he said about the NFL because his
guy didn't get picked forth overall, you missed your evaluation.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
It were wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
It's called mock draft for reason. It's not real to mock.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But that's his credibility.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
Don't forget about their.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
He makes money off of it. That way, that's he
has to be. It's empore. He crashed out because, for one,
it's important for I thought it was more ego driven
than it was protecting Chador or even be washing. Yeah,
I thought it was more so. I thought it was
more so about him making it about himself and that moment.
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And that's that's what to me, that's what made the
crash out so interesting, Like why are you that outraged?
Like you can't be like you're only outrage that it's
that far away from your projection, Like, oh, it's never happened.
I've had somebody rate it this high. It's never happened
where they've gone this far away from where I've had
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Like come on, bro, like I get it, but you know,
let me ask you this, and then I want to
be done with the Shador talk. I feel like, for
what is worth, You're right that it takes away from
the other players and talking about Shador like that. But
I feel like it takes away from Shador because it
actually whether the kid is a little arrogant or whatever
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it is people want to label them. I don't care
what you label him. He's still a young man and
he's still growing into himself. There are a lot of
guys that are really confident in themselves and handle themselves
that way. But Pete, don't you feel like when things
like this kind of transpire and it develops into the
way that you had Steven A. Smith comparing the situation
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to a Colin Kaepernnick like situation, you're basically destroying the
kid's career before he even gets an opportunity to go
out there and try and prove it on the field.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Well, again, there's a hyperbable color from Steven A.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
Smith too. I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Co mind, it's a football evaluation that if you and
you know this, LaVar, if you're here on a football
valuation and your talent is up here, then you can
get away with stuff over here. On the other side,
if it starts to equalize and your talent comes down
and the craft goes up, then they start having major
concerns for you. If the crap goes up and the
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talent is lower, then you're going to have problems. And
that's exactly what happens here. And it's the guy, all
things being equals, if that was the prototypical stand in
the pocket and even the apple Jade Daniels, who was
Jade Daniels from a year ago or Caleb Williams from
a year ago, he still goes first overall, second overall.
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It's not the that's not the problem. The problem isn't
the stuff that comes with him. The stuff that comes
with him becomes more of an impact when you're not
as good as your your evaluation is. And the league
clearly Fantamata, you know everybody points to his college numbers
and what he did in college. You want me to
go through a laundry.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
List of guys.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Danny Whirfol at the University of Florida might have been
one of the greatest college quarterbacks who ever played the game.
He stood in there, he was tough, he took a beating,
he understood coverages, he got the ball out, he read
the field. But you know why he couldn't make it
in the NFL. He wasn't a high draft pick because
he did'd have a great arm. I mean, you can
go on and on Dylan Gabriel's numbers and for everybody's
picking apart Dylan Gabriel and going ahead of him. And
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I know, by the way, I don't love Dylan Gabriel's game,
but the reality is his numbers are everybody good and
he's little well, you know what, he's got a better
arm that your door Sanders does. So you're going to
offer that the little with this with the arm. It's
the same type of thing. It's a football evaluation. And
when you get to a certain point of not being
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talented enough to be a first round pick, talented enough
to be a second round pick, you get to the
third round, you go back to what you said, LeVar,
do you want and you Jonas and do you want
to be bring him into the building to be a
backup quarterback when he's that's reality of you're bringing all
that other stuff into it.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
By the way, Jason White won a Heisman, didn't get drafted, bro,
you know, get give me the comp on like, you know,
who had comparable numbers to Shador Sanders, who won the
same award, the Johnny Uniteds Award, and went what like
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Gardner Minshew had the same exact stat line and went
when where in the in the drafty six round six round.
So I'm just saying there are comps. There are comps, like,
it's not it's not actually like, maybe they didn't rank
Gardner Minshew as the third or fourth best quarterback in
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or player prospect in the draft and it didn't work
out that way. But there are comps to what Shador
Sanders accomplished and and got literally even a worse draft
stock a draft pick he went later than what Shador went.
So it's not beyond the realm of belief that even
though he's a Sanders, that he just slid in the
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draft from what people thought that he was going to
be in the draft. I mean, that's that's simple to say.
Speaker 8 (44:11):
Here's all you need to know. Okay, if the father
was in the same exact draft in his prime, exactly
the same situation, where's the father.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Go top five to do?
Speaker 9 (44:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I made the same point, Pete. And by the way,
for what is Worth. You know, the argument against that
is he's not a quarterback. It's different for quarterbacks. Because
at the end of the day, if you really wanted
to take this to another step, the idea that nobody
takes a look and stops and says, well, Dion is
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just as involved with Travis Hunter as he is with
Shador and Shallow. He treats him the same exact way.
If you add Deon Sanders, he will tell you that's
my son, Travis Hunter. So why there's some people sitting
here said falling out and crashing out over over looking
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at it from the standpoint of Travis Hunter went number
two and your Jacksonville Jaguars traded the getting They didn't
just take him number two, they traded up to get them.
That's connected to Dion. So we're saying that Dion's the
problem and Deon's the reason, and they're humbling Don and this,
that and the other end. Oh, they're humbling Shadoor this.
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I just find it to be a tad bit weird
that you have a direct comp Travis Hunter did everything
Prime wanted him to do. He could have went to
Florida State, he chose not to. Cus Prime didn't get
the job. He went to Jackson State, he followed him there,
followed him to Colorado, ended up getting a heisman. So
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to me, you can't sit there and say this is
all about don because then you would have looked at
that Travis Hunter might have fell in the draft as well.
But because he's one of deonce players. I mean, I
don't see how that isn't a like, isn't a storyline
that isn't even talked about.
Speaker 9 (46:08):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. Look and you
know why, because he's the best player in the draft.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Well, there you go, number two, Pete.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I want to ask you before I let you go
outside of number two, outside of Sdor Sanders, best pick
off the top of your head, worst pick off the
top of your head, One that you look at and go,
I don't get it, and another one you go that
was a home run.
Speaker 8 (46:30):
Well, I didn't love the I didn't love the dark pick.
I don't love I wasn't a huge fan of Jackson Dart.
I understand why they did it, but I didn't love
that pick. That one I think when I looked at it,
I think that was quarterback panic. That's what that was
for me. So that's one that stood out. I think
Jacksonville making the move to go get Travis Hunter was
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the best move with the entire draft.
Speaker 9 (46:54):
You have to go do that.
Speaker 8 (46:55):
The guy is a star. The guy is a star.
He's the best player in a draft. I know you're
gonna say your Penn State.
Speaker 9 (47:01):
Linebacker is, but he's the best player in the draft.
Pen Tate linebacker had a couple of.
Speaker 8 (47:05):
Injury concerns too, though. I but yeah, yeah, well still
he still got the foot. He didn't get it surgically repaired.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
He doesn't need to get it surgically repaired. Pete Prisco,
at some point you might there's always a Mike. There's
a mite for every last one of them guys in.
Speaker 8 (47:20):
The league that thought he should have got that gotta
put the gut to fixed before, and that he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Have to worry about.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
By the way, Pete, by the way, I love I
love Car.
Speaker 9 (47:29):
I'm not gonna sit here in bast Car.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
I think Car is a great player, don't get me wrong,
but I think Travis Hunter is at Travis Hunter is unreal.
Speaker 9 (47:36):
Pete.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
We did h we were taking a look at your
your thoughts on the Bears taking Colston Lovelin over Tyler.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I thought that was ridiculous. Indeed, you rated him higher,
like you got something against Penn Staters. That's all. You're
okay with them being the second best in your book? Right?
Speaker 8 (47:51):
I saw another I saw another number eleven running around
over there at Penn State the other day.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Did you really how about that?
Speaker 9 (47:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Hopefully hopefully you didn't do.
Speaker 8 (48:01):
No, he's a good looking he's a good looking kid.
Speaker 9 (48:03):
He's only what is he a true freshman?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
He's seventeen. He's not even a true freshman. He's an
early in role.
Speaker 9 (48:09):
How big?
Speaker 8 (48:09):
How big LaVar?
Speaker 2 (48:10):
He's six four to twenty right now to twenty one?
Speaker 8 (48:14):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, he's looking pretty good.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
He's gonna be he gonna be better than his father.
Speaker 9 (48:19):
Well, you know, he ain't gonna he ain't gonna be.
Speaker 8 (48:22):
He ain't gonna be like you know, little little Pippin's
good player, but he's never gonna be as good as
his father. This one's gonna go soaring path.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yea, I will see. We'll see he's pretty good though,
you know, we'll see.
Speaker 8 (48:34):
That's a good looking kid. I saw those are those highlights.
That's impressive things? Well, so, yeah, I didn't love dark
that one.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
You know, I love Hunter Colston Loveland over Tyler.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Oh, yeah, that was.
Speaker 8 (48:47):
Colston love because Colston Loveland's a better pass catch catcher
than Tyler. Tyla War is probably the more complete tight end.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
He is more complete, a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (48:55):
But but I think Loveland's more what the what Ben
Johnson and the Bears needed. He's going to be Sam
Laporte in their offense, and I think that's why they
decided to go in that direction.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I don't have a problem with that. I don't I
don't have a problem with that. Now, Pete, I know
you gotta go. We gotta go. But the Atlanta Falcons,
I thought they pulled off the best first round by
getting a kid that failed because of off field issues
by the way, but getting getting Jaylen Walker and then
getting James Pierce and the same at the same time.
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I mean, they shored up their front. I mean, how'd
you feel about that one? Just super quick?
Speaker 9 (49:32):
You know?
Speaker 8 (49:33):
I loved it because look, if Pierce doesn't have the
off the field issues.
Speaker 9 (49:36):
Ei the top ten top ten, yeah, Carter should be.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
It should have been a top ten pick. So you
fix your edge rushers in one draft. Now, you got
to say, if he stays on the field and stays
out of it, stays away from trouble and issues, you know,
because there's been there were a lot of guys that
have questioned about character about James Pierce.
Speaker 9 (49:54):
Let's be real, he's a top ten talent without that.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
But if he does and everybody says, well, they gave
up a first round pick, that's kid is as good
as I think he can become on the football field.
They stole them and you get those two edge rushers,
and how many how many years of the Falcon has
been chasing edge rushers.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
You're trying to find it.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
It's a great it's they had a great draft and
it's a big, big yeah. You's gotta say true to
the football field.
Speaker 9 (50:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Pete Prisco, get him on x at Prisco, CBS Senior
NFL columnist, CBS Sports h Q analyst.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Let's do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (50:30):
He's coming for you in the bar. The Sun's gonna
take them.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
We'll see, we'll see there.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
He is the great.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Lat's back so far, sub player play boys? What's what's up?
My g Lavarrington? Oh god, why is there a lighter
in here? I don't know somebody up in here? Oh
you missed it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There's a roll of toilet paper sitting there for some reason. Yeah,
just randomly, so there, Yeah, let's go far. Yeah, all right, okay, whatever,
he's back roll with toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't know about that, but so I know anything
about it. I'll just say this, what are you going
to say? I could watch the Warriors and the Rockets
play each other for the rest of the playoffs and be.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Content they turned up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's not even like that could have basketball, Like, neither
one of those teams has got a shot in hell
against OKAC.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But it is borderline violence.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The first half.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
The Rockets are a really good team. It was great.
Leet was freaking dealing. I'm saying you said they don't
have a chance against Oka. See like they're playing really well.
But if Jimmy Butler can get healthy, like he's still
you can tell he's tender. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't
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look himself last night. So sore. Sore, Yeah, I mean
he you know, he was in there. He powered through.
But if he can get healthy and play at at
his top level, they they can get through. Okay, see
they can they.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I was actually shocked they were able to win last night.
I mean just because we've talked about this before, right, Yeah,
it's it's tough. It's tough for them to be able
to win without Jimmy Butler. I mean, he didn't play,
didn't play Game three. Houston's the better team. They have more,
they have more pieces, they have more parts. But but
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they're not down. Yeah, they just don't know how to
play against this. This the leadership and what what Steph
Curry brings and what what Draymond brings to the table is.
It's just it's different. You gotta be able to handle that.
There there has to be a level of I don't know,
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I don't know what it is. I don't want to
say level of maturity because I think that you know,
Van Vliet and those guys.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think there's enough. There's enough guys that are old
enough to understand it. I just don't think that they're
seasoned enough to be and and and the record proves
that they're like four to oh against Houston and in
playoff series. So it's it's it's kind of historic. And now, granted,
these kids, these these guys are too young to have
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been a part of all of those you know, those
those times they lost. But Houston has not had great
success against the Warriors in the playoffs. So I don't know,
I just think that these guys are out classing them,
they're outwitting them because they're not they're not more athletic,
and they're not better like on paper, they're not better
than the Houston Rockets.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So you know, I mean, it's not the first time
that we've broken this game down, or this series down.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Rather as far as how it was going to go.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Let's take a listen, and all of a sudden, we've
got a series because Jimmy Butler's got to get an
MRI because he's got a pelvit contusion.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They're calling it. That's a rap. They don't got a series.
That's that that was a quick turn that that party.
If you're a Golden State Warriors fan, that party died
out quick. Geez. They can't do it with out without
Jimmy Buckets man fandul. It was gonna be a good
series in terms of it would be competitive, but Golden
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State I felt like would outclass them and having two
scores of the caliber of of Curry and Butler would
be too much for for a really really talented Rockets team.
But now, yeah, the tables turn.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
It's only one game, right, it's one one still, you know,
you never know? I mean this, This Golden State team
has rallied sometimes with Steph Curry having help.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Them and not, so I'm not counting them out.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It only takes one Steph Curry in Fuego shooting night
that to get them right back in this. So I
wasn't on thirty six points in Game three, by the way.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I wasn't on air like since he since they like
that game, I hadn't been on air. But I didn't
know jim I thought Jimmy might be out due to
that injury. Like, I mean, not what I said. The
State the statement was correct and they I.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Mean, yeah, he missed Game three and they won.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. All I'm saying is it was going to be
a rap. If Jimmy Butler did not come back in
and play, it was going to be a rap. That's
why they won game won Game three, so what, so what?
Speaker 7 (05:18):
That's why they're up three to one.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like I said, they barely won last night.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Yeah, with Jimmy Butler, they barely.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Won Game three. M Butler.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
He didn't have Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I know they didn't blow them out.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah they took it, Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What was the score? I don't even remember game game three?
I mean you mean Game two.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Steph Curry dropped thirty six, and I.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Don't think they blew him out. They haven't blown them
out once. One O four ninety three. That's a blowout.
I guess it could be considered that. Yeah, one eleven.
I stand by it. I still stay still stand by that.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'll stand by Dylan Brooks is trying everything he possibly
can do Jimmy Butler to swing on him.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He's trying everything he can. He's trying to get he's
trying to get all of them. He's like a He's
like a poor man's version of Draymond. I love him.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I know people like to bury him because they well,
you know, he's just out there.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's not even playing basketball. He's a one scoring at
the beginning of the game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, he's out there at all their critical moments.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
He's on the floor.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He's he's trying as much as he possibly can. He's
limited on offense, but trying everything he can do. Like
he's a throwback player, Like this is a throwback series,
which is why it's that so entertaining. And I was
actually kind of surprised that the TNT crew when they
went to halftime was complaining about the style of basketball.
It was because like that, that's kind of their style
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of basketball.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's what they've been calling for.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Is especially when you watch that awful Calves heat game
and whatever the hell that that's a blowout.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That was a blowout. That's what I would call a
blow It's total dumb. I mean, they didn't even have
to put Donovan Mitchell back in. I don't even know
why they put him back in the game.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Miami almost lost my sixty.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, I don't even know that they showed up to
the arena. Those are fill in How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't like, how do you like imagine having you know,
clean imagine having Miami plus fifty and being like, yeah,
of course I'll take that bet and still losing wild
But there it is. The you know, the Cleveland Cavaliers
are on their way to the next round. But last night,
the star of that of that game was the star
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of the night in the NBA playoffs was Rockets Warriors.
And I'm really hoping the game it goes sevens would
can get as many games possible.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But it feels like skin it over quick.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Why can't we get this style of basketball for the
other eighty two in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's too much, too much, too much basketball to be played.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
It didn't used to be, didn't use that's.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
To me, that's and it's so funny we said this
style of basketball last night, like that's how the old
NBA used to be. Like people used to beat each
other up. I was telling my son because he's so
on this Lebron train, and I was telling him, I
was like, dude, I was like, I was like, I
don't know what type of career Steph Curry would have
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had or Lebron would have had in that early those
early days. It's like Lebron has had longevity, He's had
a run for a really long time of being dominant.
I said, he doesn't get beat up on like these
other guys. So he asked me. He asked me the question.
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He poses the question. He said, who do you think
is better? Since we're always talking about Lebron and Mike.
He is like, he's like, who you think is better? Yo,
Kic or Bird? And he's like looking at it like
this is like like a redundant question or like a
rhetorical question. I was like, dude, if I got to
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be honest, I'm going with Bird. And it's not because
I'm older than you. It's not that I'm taking a
shot at the younger generation and what they're I said,
skill wise, skill I said, it's not even close how
how much more skilled players are these days because of
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how specialized the training is. But you had to endure
like you had to endure a season back when those
guys played. Oh, if you want to look it up,
Jo Kich has three league MVPs. You know how many?
Bird has three? And did them all back to back
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to back. He did three times in a row. Jokic
took a year off, you know, in terms of amounts
of NBA first teams. Berd kills it. He's got two
more championships than than Jokic, And he was like, yeah,
but you're talking about the team. You're talking about team.
I said, well, those accolades are connected to him as well.
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And so, for what it's worth, because I had the
conversation about the Paul Pierce, what Paul Pierce brought up,
if some way, somehow Steph Curry ends up, let's just say,
for the sake of said, Steph Curry ends up winning
the NBA World title this year, he will effectively be
in pole position, perfect position to be considered the player
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of this era. And how do you how do you
make sense of it? If he has more championships then
Lebron James and the Lebron James era of time, and
we're having the conversation about him being the goat, Well.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
He already does have more titles than him, because Lebron's
got three and a half and Steph Curry's got four.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, uh, what.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
I would actually would actually.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Got a half ring and it's actually the it's tied together.
It's got N ninety five fabric on the back end
to tie it together.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I would already give him the benefit of the doubt,
though at least as far as like the most recent
only because of the impact he's had on the game,
like Steph Curry's impact.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
And it's one of the reasons why Kaitlyn Clark I
think has.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Been so attractive for so many you know, female basketball players,
is just their ability to do something that you know
anyone can do. Lebron is such a specimen and an
Adonis that no one's gonna be born like that with
with the physical gift and athleticism to dunk, to fly
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through the air, to play the way he's playing at forty.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
There's just there's not many people who are built to
be able to do that.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
But everyone can relate to shooting a three.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Shoot, you know, hitting a shot, you know, shot from
the logo, and and that's where I think there's that
attraction to how Steph Craig plays.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I just I go back to us talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Like the style of basketball and enduring it to me
the strategy behind it, because you saw Minnesota doing it
with Lebron what two nights ago now, and you see
what Houston kind of does, or at least you know Dylan
Brooks is trying to do and you can be as
skilled as you want. I think this is what like
younger generations don't seem to understand, is you can be
as talented.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And skilled as you want.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
But once you get punched in the mouth, then it
changes time. And that's the thing is and here and
hear me out. So this is going to go on
a long, long little trail here. No, kids don't fight anymore,
like like when they grow up. It's not the same
as what it used to be, where you know, you
wouldn't be able to just say whatever you want on
social media or say whatever you want on the playground.
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You get popped in the face and that actually was
like a real life.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Lesson and you don't from me, well exactly most times
most times you got you got away with it.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
But then other thing was you didn't snitch right, like
like you knew that. Like if Johnny hits you, it
was Johnny stare at you in class, He's like, oh, yeah,
did I hit you in the face or did you fall?
And you're like, oh, I fell, But like that that's
the that's the reality of what like people grew up
with in the older generations was there are consequences for
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your actions.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And you had to be responsible and accountable for those actions.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
And nowadays you look at you know, and just and
this even applies to the draft and the prank can
all that stuff and what just happened.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
This applies to a.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Lot of things, but it applies to I think the
game the way it's played, because now you look at
how they're trying to neutralize a lot of skill and
talent with getting in their heads, playing that with that
sort of physicality, and some guys are like, what do
I do.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I don't like this.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
They look to the reps like do something. It's like, no, man,
this is this is what like grade school one oh one.
You got to figure out a solution on your own,
and you have to be tough. You have to endure,
as you guys said, and kind of work through this.
But that's one of the reasons why I go back
to saying, like, why can't we get this in the
other eighty two games during the regular season. I wish
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we had a team that wanted to embody with The
Detroit Pistons used to be like, I wish someone took
that approach for eighty two games.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, the New Pistons kind of tried like they
were in a bunch of skirmishes. They were in a
bunch of like them and the Rockets are probably the
most physical teams in the NBA as far as you know,
wanting to wanting to play that style of basketball. And
they're both really talented but still probably a couple of
years away from being legitimate contenders in either common But
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even looking at how their style of play has been
in the playoffs, that doesn't even like the old Pistons, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Like you gotta underst that, like the way they fouled
was just different. It's different than how guys get fouled anymore.
Did you see? So when like that technical on Draymond,
like for his like hitting him in the hit with
his leg and stuff like that, Like some of these
calls is like they're so ticky tech called, like dudes
were literally I told my son, I said, could you
(15:20):
imagine Robert Parris turning around at seven foot and cold
cocking you in the face, like punching you in the
face a teme to dream seven footer turn around, open hand, bitch,
slap you.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
The Draymond that felt like that was because it was Draymond.
That that's why he got, he got the technical for it,
the Jimmy Butler when he chased down Dylan Brooks. I
was actually happy that they didn't call a tech on
that like that that wasn't or they didn't call a
flagrant on that. Why would they exactly because Brooks threw
himself on the ground and they just looked at it
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and said, let him play on. And then there was
another time where he shoved Dylan Brooks down when they
were talking to each other on the foul line, and
they just let it play.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I was like, okay, for.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
All the criticism that officials get and deservedly, so, those
were a couple of moments where they're like, no, no, no,
it's the play.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean even the other night with Aunt and Lebron right,
it's like he got up in his chest. How many
times are you ever going to see that? Like you understand,
MJ and them had to handle that. Isaiah Thomas, you
name it, Charles Barkley, they had to handle that. Even
(16:34):
Kobe I said, now you gotta think you got damn
too soon anyway shouts out the code. I just think
that when you think about it, And I was telling him,
I said, it's like that in football too. It's like that.
In football, the physicality of the game was being legislated out,
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like towards the end of Tom Brady's career, legislated out.
So when I look at guys now, I don't necessarily
measure and weigh them almost the same exact way I
would when you were especially quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks, And then
I would throw receivers in there on a second, like
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there was a time I'll never forget the Super Bowl
where ty Law was sitting Hall of Fame, which ty
Hall of Fame. Ty Law was sitting Marvin Harrison down
on the bench. He was jamming that man up so
(17:41):
serious on the ball that he was driving him all
the way to the bench and sat him down on
the bench. And you know what, the league did, get
these cast five yards. We can't had that. We can't
had that. When you start now, then the concussions epidemic hits.
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Now you gotta contend with that. It's just it's not
the same game you had to survive in a different time.
In both the NBA and the NFL, it's not survival now.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It's also the NHL because while we celebrate Ovechkin for
breaking the record. Gretzky's era completely different, like he was
getting mugged, so him being able to do what he
did at that time. Like now it's everything's opened up,
you know, after the lockout or whatever it was, they
you know, they got rid of the two line pass
and all that stuff, so they opened up the offense.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But yeah, it does feel like it's different.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Every sport has now realized we've got to figure out
a way to cater towards the offense.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And scoring is the key. That's the bottom line. Scoring
is the key, and in some situations, the well not some.
In in most situations, the star is the star, and
and football that's that's that's the quarterback and somewhat the receiver.
And then basketball it's the face. Whatever the face of
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that team is, that guy's going to be protected.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
So you got to blame TV then, as ultimately there's
two things, TV and fantasy, because ultimately rating show people
don't like watching.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Low scoring games. They just don't.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
There's examples of it, I'm sure you can find in
big games because everyone's watching. But we kind of how
it can only blame ourselves to a degree if that's
the case, and the reason I'm saying again, people feel
like they don't they don't appreciate watching defensive sports. It
could be basketball, it could be hockey, it could be anything.
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And some people talk about, like, hey, why do you
like soccer? They don't score enough. It's one of the
biggest gripes. It's like, well, you can't appreciate, like all
the opportunities that lead to that that one opportunity that scores,
or maybe it was just that one opportunity that you score,
you know, saying like it's it's partially TV's fault that
if that's how you're looking at it, because ratings have
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a direct correlation with scoring.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know who else should be upset? Are these these athletes?
They should be upset because they run the risk of
never being like if you think about it, these athletes
are not as as defined and as legitimized as athletes
in the past. You don't have the type of like
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you had way more established brands in the NBA back
in the day. You had way more established brands in
terms of players in the NFL back in the day.
And you know why, because in football you had to
be a warrior. Whether you were a receiver, I could
give you four other receivers outside of Jerry Rice, Andre Reid,
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Tim Brown, who else? Michael Irving, Art Monk Art Monk. Yeah,
you had brands like you had established Webster Slaughter. Well,
come on, and he ain't even like a par Echelants
But you don't remember the name, but bb.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Don baby off top Rady.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
All I'm saying is you had to have brands because
they had to survive. I respected a dude getting hit
and flipped and landing on his head and getting back
up and playing like nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
By the way, and that was part of the highlight package.
Guy looked like he got paralyzed, Don Bibi La and
they're like, hey throw that in just to bring.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
This back to basketball for a second.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Do you kind of feel like Adam Silver just doesn't
seem like the type of guy that once that wants
that heat.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, he's too I'm going to look at your.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Like, he probably doesn't want to physical.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Too much, complaining. Man, you've already you've already. They should
feel that way. Yeah, they should feel like it should
be a more physical game and more like that. But
he does look forget about physicality.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
He's probably like I gotta wash my handle, touch me.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What do you think is how from them? From them?
He looked like from the Adams family.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Tell me, I'm just look at how in conductions, But that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Dude looks like he's from the Adams family too. Howie
Howie what's his name, Howie Howie Man. Yeah, he looked
like you know, I met him in person and didn't
know about his germaphoe ways. I went to like shake
his hand, he was like, oh you all know, honey,
like put his fist out. I was like, af your
fists man, my face, damn give me one a million
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dollar boxes.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
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Speaker 3 (22:57):
Let's take a listen, because we do have a pair
of an update on this whole fiasco that went down.
This was Bill Belichick being interviewed by CBS over the
weekend with his girlfriend in the background, Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You have Jordan right, over there.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested
in it. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Never been too worried about what everybody else thanks, just
to try to do what I.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Feel like is that's for me? And what's right?
Speaker 8 (23:35):
How did you guys meet not talking about this?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No, no, it's a topic neither one of them is
comfortable commenting on. And what world do you rock like that?
With Bill Belichick? Man, hasn't he always been one in charge?
She is in charge, my ge.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
According to TMZ, that awkward, uncomfortable situation was even worse.
TMZ is reporting that Bill Belichick's disastrous CBS interview was
worse they had to cut out thirty minutes from it.
Jordan Hudson stormed out in the middle of it and
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expected Bill a follower. So not only was it really
really awkward in what aired and why it was even done,
We were talking about it yesterday a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Like why even do it? What was the point of it?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Because she's sitting there basically running point on the production
of everything and telling everybody what you can and cannot
talk about. And now we find out it was even
worse than that, and she stormed out, got a bit
of a red ass herself, decided to bail on the interview,
and apparently was expecting him to follow her. And I'm
not sure that he did, which may lead to some
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some more issues they got.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's what you call a laugh. Why you know, you
touch a lot wire? You know what happened? You get shocked?
You know, I just there's there's a little more.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh, go ahead, just go ahead, point out, please do,
please do it's According to TMZ Sports, the whole ordeal
isn't sitting well with Bill's employers. We're told folks at
North Carolina are now concerned about Hudson's influence on Belichick's
tenure as the head football coach in Chapel Hill, especially
with her essentially taking.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
On a role as his manager.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
As a source put it, there's a quote growing sense
this could become a problem. It could be if the
school is already saying, hey, man like that, this is
an issue.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, I can just imagine what that's like behind
the scenes. That is crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I told you there under your head, that's crazy. You
couldn't find a glass.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's crazy. You want to talk about crazy ass hours.
That's why I was pointing out that is crazy. And
you know what else is crazy? This story And I'm
gonna tell you why, because this kind of screams. This
kind of screams there has to be a trade off
for me to be dealing with your old ass.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
What trade off is that?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I don't know, like you and power, Hey, what would
you rather have Shannon Sharp or Bill Belichick? I just say,
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I'm just saying, would you rather have your your ass
under wraps? And then you know, like and only reason why,
I mean, really, let's make these comparable. There are significant
age gaps in between the man and the woman in
both of these scenarios.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Here's the the part that was just weird that I didn't.
I know, we all talked about it whatever, but it
was like, yeah, you know, he's older than her and
she's this and that. It's like, hey, listen, you know
he's single, he's doing his thing, file whatever, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Not our business. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I didn't actually grasp how weird it was until the
guy who was doing the interview for CBS described it
and said the following.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You know, Bill, we've seen you.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Know a lot of You've always had a really private life,
but we've seen now it's been on Instagram. There was
pictures of you and Jordan. You were on the beach.
You were dressed up as a fisherman. She was dressed
up as a mermaid.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, she's she's she's orchestrating the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Wait, wait, wait, what can I remember?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I remember seeing it in real time at the time
and being like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She's orchestrating the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Would you describe it like that?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's Bill Belichick dressed as the vandicamp's mascot.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, while she's I'm laying on on whatever it is.
The surface that they were on a boartwalk.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's long John silver and he's got the stunt double
from Splash on.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
The sand and they're taking it stupid.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I think it was a boardwalk. It was like a
pair or something. I saw the fix. All I'm saying is, Bro,
there's always a There's always a backstory. Bro, There's always
a backstory. And the shorty girl for Sharp made it
very clear she's a only fans type cat like twenty
(28:42):
five G's a cheek. There's a price to be paid
when you're giving up that many years, that much mileage.
There's a price to be paid. Now what that price is,
I don't know, but her actions and her activities are
making it a public conversation. And for Bill Belichick to
(29:04):
now be where he's at, it almost makes him a
person now. And the reason why I think Bill Belichick
had such a superpower in New England was that we
did not think he was of this planet. He didn't
handle things in a normal manner. He didn't talk to
(29:24):
you in a normal manner, almost like an alien. And
because he won, you left him on the hell alone.
He he's now, he's like he's like Superman at the
bar after he left and said he ain't want to
be Superman anymore. You sitting there and you think you
Superman until do pop you in your lip and you're like,
what what's that? What's that? I'm bleeding? That's that owl?
(29:53):
That hurt? Like I'm bleeding? Like, hey, Bill, you got
to move on. Yes, man, Hey, let me tell you something,
and you got to do it now because I don't care.
She's the same age as you. If she's interfering and
interrupting and injecting herself into the conversations into your business
(30:18):
that way, that's bad for business.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, Like, well, and now you're bad for business and
legitimately bad for business if your employers are like, hey,
this is a problem, Like this is a problem because
now it's in question, Like I don't care, Like you
want to deal with a little kid as long as
she's she's of age, she's she's legal.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
That seems to be what the new trend is lately,
like get them soon as they turn eighteen or it's nineteen.
I don't know if that's your deal. I guess that's
you know, just don't do it with my daughters. But
in the end, in the end, if they are inserting
(31:03):
themselves into your world where they're suing you for fifty
million dollars and turning down ten million dollars, or they're
injecting themselves into scenarios that where you're representing yourself and
your business and the institution that you're coaching for, and
that is turning into a thing, and y'all don't know
(31:24):
how to handle it any better than that, then don't
have her there. If you if you need to not
have her around don't have her around. You knew something
was going to be interesting by the way she was
dressed out the spring game.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's a spring game.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
If you don't take that ass off and put on
some some sweatpants and a North Carolina sweatshirt with some
sneakers and walk your hands on and off that field
if you want to with a clipboard, fine, but you
got on you look like you had on like a
ten fifteen thousand dollars outfit an for spring.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Let me check this out, and their football team ain't
even like that.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Oh yeah, yeah something.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It just this, Jonas. What this does and what it
creates is, like you said, now, it forces the questions
to be asked, And now you gotta start answering the
questions because the questions are going to keep coming. And
now there's more questions because now you're like intrigued, like
(32:36):
hold on, something ain't right here, Something don't seem right,
some don't feel right. Why does this lady feel so
entitled to be able to handle things? Ain't nobody else's
girlfriend's wife, side pieces, ain't no baby mama's Ain't nobody
else's handling things like this? Why are you doing this now?
(32:58):
Why are you doing this, and all them questions ain't
going away, and Bill, you're going to have to either
start answering them or you gotta get rid of her.
Got to go. It was fun while it lasted. You
probably have had the greatest time of your life. But
(33:18):
just like anything else, all good things must come to
an end.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
What do you think they were doing? They're sitting at
home like it was a Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
They're flipping around. They start watching Deadliest Catching, like you
know what, we could do that too. Bruh, here you
fall out of a crab. All he wants to do
is football, dress up like a fisherman off.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
She them blew his mind? She pause, see them blown,
not man's mind, and now he ain't thinking straight. Even
the great Bill Belichick can fall victim. That's that. Yeah,
that is well, that's what I meant about what I said.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Hey, listen, man, maybe that was up part of that
walk of shame.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Remember that walk of shame. I mean, he don't have
no shame, he's Bill Belichick, but now it's starting to
become common knowledge.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Shamee.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh no, Shae, oh no, shame oh no, oh shamee.
All right, let's go to Shane let's go to I just,
I just, I'm just saying, like the way she's Sunday,
she sudden the interviewer and she was trying to son,
Bill Belichick. Don't you dare open your mouth while Bill
Belichick is talking? Who do you think you are to
(34:33):
open your mouth during a Bill Belichick interview? The reporters
don't even open their mouths to the to that dang
Bill Belichick. And you're sitting over there telling Bill Belichick
and the reporter what they ain't gonna do.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (35:06):
Right now, it is a Tuesday tradition. He's a smooth operator.
He is a man who is reeling from another successful
draft evaluation. Unlike mel kiper Junior, He's not gonna bitch
if he gets something wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh he didn't crash out like now.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
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Speaker 9 (35:36):
What's up, guys?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
How are you why your boy fall apart like that man?
Speaker 8 (35:40):
That was ridiculous because you know why, because he made
a football evaluation based on what he thought he saw
in the league, sent out a message on what they saw,
and he got angry about it. I mean, look, here's
the problem with draft evaluations. Nobody can ever admit they're wrong.
Teams are wrong, GM's are wrong, coach are wrong, evaluators
(36:01):
are wrong, media analysts are wrong.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
We all get it wrong.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
So why can't you admit it? He was wrong to
door Sanders was not the number four overall player industry raft.
He never was, and for anybody if you go back
and look at it, I'm one of the few guys
in the entire industry that thought he would be a
second round pick in who they should mock draft?
Speaker 9 (36:21):
He wasn't in it.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
In my final mock draft, he wasn't in it. Should
he have been a third round pick probably based on
what based on the play. You know, everybody wants to
bring in every other issue involved here. They want to
say it's his dad. They want to say it was
his bad interviews. And yet his interviews weren't great, and
he was stand office at times and teams were turned
off by.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Him a little bit.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
But the reality is the reason he wasn't drafted in
the first round is because he doesn't have the traits.
He's not a big guy, he doesn't have a powerful arm,
he's not athletic, he doesn't move great, and he holds
the football. That's the bottom line. If he were same
exact scenario, same exact scenario, same situation, didn't interview well,
(37:05):
doesn't have as a father who's very involved, nobody wants
to father around in the same exact scenario. And he's
six foot five and he's got a cannon for an arm,
and he can stand in and make all the throws.
He goes first overall, bottom line, end of.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Story, Pete, what do you make of just sort of.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
The there was like when Dylan Gabriel went and Jalen
Milroe went before that and all that, it was like, well,
you know he's dropping because of this, he's dropping. And
then the coverage became and I and I sort of
wondered if NFL teams were looking at it, and the
coverage of him falling and going, this is exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Why we don't want this.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
This is exactly why, because even he doesn't get drafted,
and there's the circus that surrounds it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Look, he's like.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
They bring a lot of this on themselves, but facts
are facts. I mean, like, why would you want a
lad backup and a loud locker room similar to the
Kaepernick stuff, similar to the Tim Tebow stuff, Like there's
been other examples of this. But people looked at this
as he was being victimized and the prank calls and everything, like,
(38:15):
what was your take on just sort of the coverage
of the whole thing while it was transpiring?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
It was unfair to every other player was drafted.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Did you know that cam Ward went first overall?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
No, you don't, because all anybody talked about was shood
door Sanders, shoe do or Sanders shud door Sanders And
it's ridiculous. And you know, I went on after he
got drafted and I said, my long national nightmare is
finally over. I mean, I can go on with my life.
It was unreal, the media coverage and the moaning and
groaning and crying. You mentioned Mel Kuiper. Look, Mel's done
(38:45):
this for a long time. He's got plenty wrong. Okay,
we all have but to sit there and say. And
the things that he said about the NFL because his
guy didn't get picked forth overall, you missed your evaluation.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
It were wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
It's called mock draft for reason. It's not real to mock.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
But that's his credibility.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
Don't forget about their.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
He makes money off of it. That way, that's he
has to be. It's empore. He crashed out because, for one,
it's important for I thought it was more ego driven
than it was protecting Chador or even be washing. Yeah,
I thought it was more so. I thought it was
more so about him making it about himself and that moment.
(39:30):
And that's that's what to me, that's what made the
crash out so interesting, Like why are you that outraged?
Like you can't be like you're only outrage that it's
that far away from your projection, Like, oh, it's never happened.
I've had somebody rate it this high. It's never happened
where they've gone this far away from where I've had
(39:52):
Like come on, bro, like I get it, but you know,
let me ask you this, and then I want to
be done with the Shador talk. I feel like, for
what is worth, You're right that it takes away from
the other players and talking about Shador like that. But
I feel like it takes away from Shador because it
actually whether the kid is a little arrogant or whatever
(40:14):
it is people want to label them. I don't care
what you label him. He's still a young man and
he's still growing into himself. There are a lot of
guys that are really confident in themselves and handle themselves
that way. But Pete, don't you feel like when things
like this kind of transpire and it develops into the
way that you had Steven A. Smith comparing the situation
(40:37):
to a Colin Kaepernnick like situation, you're basically destroying the
kid's career before he even gets an opportunity to go
out there and try and prove it on the field.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Well, again, there's a hyperbable color from Steven A.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
Smith too. I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Co mind, it's a football evaluation that if you and
you know this, LaVar, if you're here on a football
valuation and your talent is up here, then you can
get away with stuff over here. On the other side,
if it starts to equalize and your talent comes down
and the craft goes up, then they start having major
concerns for you. If the crap goes up and the
(41:18):
talent is lower, then you're going to have problems. And
that's exactly what happens here. And it's the guy, all
things being equals, if that was the prototypical stand in
the pocket and even the apple Jade Daniels, who was
Jade Daniels from a year ago or Caleb Williams from
a year ago, he still goes first overall, second overall.
(41:39):
It's not the that's not the problem. The problem isn't
the stuff that comes with him. The stuff that comes
with him becomes more of an impact when you're not
as good as your your evaluation is. And the league
clearly Fantamata, you know everybody points to his college numbers
and what he did in college. You want me to
go through a laundry.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
List of guys.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Danny Whirfol at the University of Florida might have been
one of the greatest college quarterbacks who ever played the game.
He stood in there, he was tough, he took a beating,
he understood coverages, he got the ball out, he read
the field. But you know why he couldn't make it
in the NFL. He wasn't a high draft pick because
he did'd have a great arm. I mean, you can
go on and on Dylan Gabriel's numbers and for everybody's
picking apart Dylan Gabriel and going ahead of him. And
(42:20):
I know, by the way, I don't love Dylan Gabriel's game,
but the reality is his numbers are everybody good and
he's little well, you know what, he's got a better
arm that your door Sanders does. So you're going to
offer that the little with this with the arm. It's
the same type of thing. It's a football evaluation. And
when you get to a certain point of not being
(42:41):
talented enough to be a first round pick, talented enough
to be a second round pick, you get to the
third round, you go back to what you said, LeVar,
do you want and you Jonas and do you want
to be bring him into the building to be a
backup quarterback when he's that's reality of you're bringing all
that other stuff into it.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
By the way, Jason White won a Heisman, didn't get drafted, bro,
you know, get give me the comp on like, you know,
who had comparable numbers to Shador Sanders, who won the
same award, the Johnny Uniteds Award, and went what like
(43:17):
Gardner Minshew had the same exact stat line and went
when where in the in the drafty six round six round.
So I'm just saying there are comps. There are comps, like,
it's not it's not actually like, maybe they didn't rank
Gardner Minshew as the third or fourth best quarterback in
(43:41):
or player prospect in the draft and it didn't work
out that way. But there are comps to what Shador
Sanders accomplished and and got literally even a worse draft
stock a draft pick he went later than what Shador went.
So it's not beyond the realm of belief that even
though he's a Sanders, that he just slid in the
(44:06):
draft from what people thought that he was going to
be in the draft. I mean, that's that's simple to say.
Speaker 8 (44:11):
Here's all you need to know. Okay, if the father
was in the same exact draft in his prime, exactly
the same situation, where's the father.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Go top five to do?
Speaker 9 (44:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I made the same point, Pete. And by the way,
for what is Worth. You know, the argument against that
is he's not a quarterback. It's different for quarterbacks. Because
at the end of the day, if you really wanted
to take this to another step, the idea that nobody
takes a look and stops and says, well, Dion is
(44:46):
just as involved with Travis Hunter as he is with
Shador and Shallow. He treats him the same exact way.
If you add Deon Sanders, he will tell you that's
my son, Travis Hunter. So why there's some people sitting
here said falling out and crashing out over over looking
(45:08):
at it from the standpoint of Travis Hunter went number
two and your Jacksonville Jaguars traded the getting They didn't
just take him number two, they traded up to get them.
That's connected to Dion. So we're saying that Dion's the
problem and Deon's the reason, and they're humbling Don and this,
that and the other end. Oh, they're humbling Shadoor this.
(45:29):
I just find it to be a tad bit weird
that you have a direct comp Travis Hunter did everything
Prime wanted him to do. He could have went to
Florida State, he chose not to. Cus Prime didn't get
the job. He went to Jackson State, he followed him there,
followed him to Colorado, ended up getting a heisman. So
(45:50):
to me, you can't sit there and say this is
all about don because then you would have looked at
that Travis Hunter might have fell in the draft as well.
But because he's one of deonce players. I mean, I
don't see how that isn't a like, isn't a storyline
that isn't even talked about.
Speaker 9 (46:08):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. Look and you
know why, because he's the best player in the draft.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Well, there you go, number two, Pete.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I want to ask you before I let you go
outside of number two, outside of Sdor Sanders, best pick
off the top of your head, worst pick off the
top of your head, One that you look at and go,
I don't get it, and another one you go that
was a home run.
Speaker 8 (46:30):
Well, I didn't love the I didn't love the dark pick.
I don't love I wasn't a huge fan of Jackson Dart.
I understand why they did it, but I didn't love
that pick. That one I think when I looked at it,
I think that was quarterback panic. That's what that was
for me. So that's one that stood out. I think
Jacksonville making the move to go get Travis Hunter was
(46:51):
the best move with the entire draft.
Speaker 9 (46:54):
You have to go do that.
Speaker 8 (46:55):
The guy is a star. The guy is a star.
He's the best player in a draft. I know you're
gonna say your Penn State.
Speaker 9 (47:01):
Linebacker is, but he's the best player in the draft.
Pen Tate linebacker had a couple of.
Speaker 8 (47:05):
Injury concerns too, though. I but yeah, yeah, well still
he still got the foot. He didn't get it surgically repaired.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
He doesn't need to get it surgically repaired. Pete Prisco,
at some point you might there's always a Mike. There's
a mite for every last one of them guys in.
Speaker 8 (47:20):
The league that thought he should have got that gotta
put the gut to fixed before, and that he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Have to worry about.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
By the way, Pete, by the way, I love I
love Car.
Speaker 9 (47:29):
I'm not gonna sit here in bast Car.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
I think Car is a great player, don't get me wrong,
but I think Travis Hunter is at Travis Hunter is unreal.
Speaker 9 (47:36):
Pete.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
We did h we were taking a look at your
your thoughts on the Bears taking Colston Lovelin over Tyler.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I thought that was ridiculous. Indeed, you rated him higher,
like you got something against Penn Staters. That's all. You're
okay with them being the second best in your book? Right?
Speaker 8 (47:51):
I saw another I saw another number eleven running around
over there at Penn State the other day.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Did you really how about that?
Speaker 9 (47:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Hopefully hopefully you didn't do.
Speaker 8 (48:01):
No, he's a good looking he's a good looking kid.
Speaker 9 (48:03):
He's only what is he a true freshman?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
He's seventeen. He's not even a true freshman. He's an
early in role.
Speaker 9 (48:09):
How big?
Speaker 8 (48:09):
How big LaVar?
Speaker 2 (48:10):
He's six four to twenty right now to twenty one?
Speaker 8 (48:14):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, he's looking pretty good.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
He's gonna be he gonna be better than his father.
Speaker 9 (48:19):
Well, you know, he ain't gonna he ain't gonna be.
Speaker 8 (48:22):
He ain't gonna be like you know, little little Pippin's
good player, but he's never gonna be as good as
his father. This one's gonna go soaring path.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yea, I will see. We'll see he's pretty good though,
you know, we'll see.
Speaker 8 (48:34):
That's a good looking kid. I saw those are those highlights.
That's impressive things? Well, so, yeah, I didn't love dark
that one.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
You know, I love Hunter Colston Loveland over Tyler.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Oh, yeah, that was.
Speaker 8 (48:47):
Colston love because Colston Loveland's a better pass catch catcher
than Tyler. Tyla War is probably the more complete tight end.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
He is more complete, a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (48:55):
But but I think Loveland's more what the what Ben
Johnson and the Bears needed. He's going to be Sam
Laporte in their offense, and I think that's why they
decided to go in that direction.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I don't have a problem with that. I don't I
don't have a problem with that. Now, Pete, I know
you gotta go. We gotta go. But the Atlanta Falcons,
I thought they pulled off the best first round by
getting a kid that failed because of off field issues
by the way, but getting getting Jaylen Walker and then
getting James Pierce and the same at the same time.
(49:28):
I mean, they shored up their front. I mean, how'd
you feel about that one? Just super quick?
Speaker 9 (49:32):
You know?
Speaker 8 (49:33):
I loved it because look, if Pierce doesn't have the
off the field issues.
Speaker 9 (49:36):
Ei the top ten top ten, yeah, Carter should be.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
It should have been a top ten pick. So you
fix your edge rushers in one draft. Now, you got
to say, if he stays on the field and stays
out of it, stays away from trouble and issues, you know,
because there's been there were a lot of guys that
have questioned about character about James Pierce.
Speaker 9 (49:54):
Let's be real, he's a top ten talent without that.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
But if he does and everybody says, well, they gave
up a first round pick, that's kid is as good
as I think he can become on the football field.
They stole them and you get those two edge rushers,
and how many how many years of the Falcon has
been chasing edge rushers.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
You're trying to find it.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
It's a great it's they had a great draft and
it's a big, big yeah. You's gotta say true to
the football field.
Speaker 9 (50:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Pete Prisco, get him on x at Prisco, CBS Senior
NFL columnist, CBS Sports h Q analyst.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Let's do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (50:30):
He's coming for you in the bar. The Sun's gonna
take them.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
We'll see, we'll see there.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
He is the great.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
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