April 26, 2025 • 56 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, it’s Draft Day so the guys relive the days that changed their lives. The Old P, Petros Papadakis reflects on the spectacle in Green Bay, running backs in the Draft and more! Plus, Producer Lee influenced a Saturday Morning Cartoon.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
We do it here live on Draft Day. It is
Draft Day. It is finally here we can put aside
all the speculation and we can start holding people accountable
for some of these garbage betting lines that are out there,
these over unders, all that stuff. Now we're gonna get
the real answers coming up later on tonight. How fired
(00:36):
up are you, guys? Nice exciting, good talk. No, this
is an awesome day.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is a life changing day for so many guys
out there who sacrificed a ton to get there. The parents,
the caretakers, people who have poured into these young men,
sacrificed so much for them to have a chance to
get there, the coaches, and it's just an awesome I
mean you.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Think back to all the hard work, everything that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Goes into this stuff for these young men and and
this is that moment where they get to see their
dreams come true.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
So there's nothing like Draft Day.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's it's one of the most incredible events in your life,
especially at this point. But more than anything else, it
is the greatest reality TV of all time, the best.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same time,
just because of everything that surrounds it. But the guys,
what were you stressed about? There's always something, there's always
something to stress out about in my case.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Like having to wait ten minutes to get drafted. That
is that your story?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, well, back then, they they negotiated before the draft,
the first pick negotiated.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I was back then.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It was the same thing for me.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I was in.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
But the difference between you and me was I was
negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating, so I
was on the phone. So I didn't I didn't feel
myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it because there
were so many people talking to me. My agent was
talking to me, both franchises were talking to me, and
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so it was kind of like I didn't get an
opportunity to really like take it all in because they
were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of the
entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you, but
you know it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that It was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when
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you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know,
and that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like, you know, I
want to be signable, but my agent saying to trusting
and I'm like, well, look, man, look man, I want
to be one. I wanted to go one. Look man,
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look hey, look here, man, don't mess this up for me.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
The Raiders sent i'd like a construct of a deal
to four guys in our draft year, JaMarcus, myself, Calvin Johnson,
and then there's one other. I can't remember who it was.
I know I it was Joe Thomas or someone else.
But my agent day before it was like, I don't
even know what to make of this, Like it was
like a very rough draft, like percentages of things. He said,
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I'm not really going to entertain her and take it seriously,
he goes, because it's not like a real offer. He goes,
this is what they're trying to like take it, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Sell everyone on.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And if this is why they want to like take
someone at one because they're going to take a lesser deal.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He's like, it's not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So, you know, ultimately, I don't know that anyone did
anything with whatever they sent, but eventually they end up
taking Joe Argus.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
One, Calvin went two, and et cetera. But that was
it was that slash.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know, you're dealing with, at least in my case,
all sorts of different information you're being passed along.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I kind of knew talking to the Cleveland Browns that
I Bojoe Thomas and I were there.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
At three, that they were gonna take Joe, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They they told me that we talked about that, and
then I'd thought, at least from what I've been told
from Miami Dolphins that like I wasn't gonna go past
nine because of all the conversation we had. Terry Shay
was their quarterback coach on Cam Cameron's staff, and that
was why I worked with for a good portion of
the preparation leading up to it. Had sad some really
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good you know, workouts and time spending with Cam Cameron.
Now come to find out there was a bit of
a relationship. This is like, I don't know if I've
ever told this part of the story. There was a
bit of a relationship with Terry Bisky, whose son Brian
Ribiski played with Ted Gin Junior Ohio State, and apparently
behind the scenes he went all in to try to
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see if he could persuade them to draft Ted gans
Junior nine and explain who's a playmaker, his speed, his
special teams, I media impact, all that stuff. So that's
a little more context how it all kind of went down.
But the reality is is it works out out. To hell,
it's gonna work out.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
That didn't stretch you out. That didn't stretch you out
into it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, not going into it, like honestly I was with
it was it was the first time that week because
so for a lot of you know, a lot of
guys when when we went to New York, you get
there on like Monday. So I had been like going
to different charity events, going to different promotional events. You know,
I was getting up at four thirty to work out
of five, you know, I was doing I had a
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guy who came out there who was I did some
cross training with boxing, So we would go we do
some cardio, we'd hit some mits.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
We'd then go you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Know, workouts to stay in shape, which I get some
throws in there in the little indoor, and I was
doing that every day at five. We had to be
on the bus by seven, So it was a it
was a not I was gonna say, like a long
week or a grueling week, but you know, I was
there doing kind of my normal routine of what that
would look like at that time. So it wasn't like,
you know, I got to like see everyone, you know,
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my grandma, my my family from Kentucky, like all these
people came out, some of us who'd never been to
New York. So I was just looking for an opportunity
to see everyone. And that was really that the final opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Got to see everyone. I think we went to some party.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I remember like hold of my grandma's hand is we're
walking through this this rap concert. I don't know if
it was Fat Joe or who it was, but I
just remember looking back up as I was my grandma.
This same for us, and uh, I think I saw
JaMarcus Russell on stage like rapping with with someone else.
Oh well, uh, And so we literally walked to the front,
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took some pictures or whatever on the red carpet, and
we walked right out the back door, and I was like, yep,
we we came. We saw, we went on, and we
moved on, and then we found like an Irish bar
we went and kind of basically closed down that night.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So it was just it was it was a celebration,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It was a big moment for I think everyone who
had supported me and who had been a part of
the process the entire time.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
I had a ton of people there both sides. All
my grandparents were still alive, my uncles, my aunts, cousins,
I mean, coaches, teammates, like, I had a ton of
people there, but I couldn't focus in on really really
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just being able to enjoy myself because it just I
just didn't know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I didn't know a little.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I felt a little bit of stress just even seeing
how many people were there, you know, for me, and
and I just you know, I know, I know you
guys might think this sounds crazy, but I really don't
like a lot of attention. Go it, laugh, do which
I want to do, whatever you want to do with it,
but I really don't like a ton of attention. And
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cause you know, y'all like to like break, break, on
me and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh, you're you're king of mammals.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Why would I like, Yeah, yeah, your your logo pictures
you running a blue whale.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I'm going to say the largest creature I'm going to
So anyway, Uh so Cleveland, Cleveland was trying to get
the deal done and I kind of I, if I'm
being honest, I didn't want to play for Cleveland. I
one hundred percent wanted to go to Washington at two.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They get that though you grew up, you grew up
in Pittsburgh, like you probably thought, well, I wanted to
go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I wanted to go to Pittsburgh. But I'm just saying, like,
if you grew up in me, I don't like Cleveland, right.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Right, I probably thought they were awful. Uh they they
weren't good. They were not They definitely were not good.
And they so what year was this, two thousand.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So they just came back and that so they were
an expansion team too. Like that's the other part of
it is there.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Wasn't came back right yeah, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Their first year back was nineteen ninety nine, so there
was one year removed from the expansion draft.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Like I like Wally Rayner, like, there were a couple
guys that I liked there, but I just.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Didn't want to go there stealing and dirty. I'm looking
at that draft class right now, they're at eight. They
were at eight. Yeah, but they but Washington had the
second and the third pick.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Was and third yea, and they weren't giving them up.
They were they they knew exactly who they were going,
like twenty twenty hindsight, they knew exactly who they were taking,
you know, at that point. But they started negotiating with me, like, well,
because here's what's wild. Dan Snyder told me to pull
my my my junk out and in the center of
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the Cleveland Brown's helmet logo, do my business on it,
throw the deuces up, and tell them I.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Don't even need to do this meeting. I'm going to Washington.
Right wait, what that's what he told me, my, that's
he told me at my last meeting.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Probably that should have been a red flag. It should
have been a red flag.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But that also would pumps you up, would not like, like,
well then then they prop me up.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Hell yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Know, I mean then in the moment, I was like, yeah,
of course, that's what I'm saying like.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I don't want to.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Look, I'm being all literal to the dude.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I was like, look, I don't want to get in trouble,
and I don't I don't want to get in between
any of you guys, is like your ownerships, like kind
of like beefs or anything like that. I don't want
to get arrested. But I mean, if you really want
me to do it, you know that we started laughing,
what but I can't. But that kind the first sign,
by the way, that was the first and that was
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first red flag. But and you don't know it. You
don't realize, like, dang, this dude is crazy. In the moment,
you're like, oh, man, like this dude's like he loves
me this, that and the other. He thinks like this
that you're the most awesome person in the world to die, this,
that and the other. And I'm coming here, right. So
I go back to Cleveland. I tell Cleveland you got
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to pay me quarterback money. If you don't pay me
somewhere around fourteen. Look, fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Is that crazy? I'll pay me something like fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm not I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Like we can't do it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And they were like, yeah, we're not going to give
you that, and so I was like, well, I'm gonna
stay firm on fourteen, and they went and got Courtney.
Courtney's agent was like, well, what is he asking for.
I went to Courtney. I told Corty, I said, don't
negotiate with them, just tell them your number, cause I'm
they've clearly established that they're talking to me and him,
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which is unique, you know, because me and him were
going to be the first my teammate went first overall
in that draft, so that was pretty cool. So we're
on the phone and I'm telling him like, I'm not
going to negotiate with him no more. So push it
up as high as you can.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
So then once they found out, Vinnie Serrado was calling
my agent's like, look, man, Dan told me, if he's
not signable, we want them. We want to take him
at too, but we will take them at three if
we have to, just to kind of, you know, kind
of knock it down just a little bit, make it
more negotiable. So you got to be negotiable at too,
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So they were negotiating against their third pick as well.
In the scenario, so it was interesting. It was an
interesting experience. But yeah, that that was kind of how
it went for me. And I had a baby on
the way, Keno Keno was in the in the oven
and he was cooking up. So I had a pregnant
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ass baby mama on my hands at that time. Well
I loved her at the time. She was my fiance
at the time. But you know, different story now. But
part of the koyfish, I mean, she didn't make it.
She didn't make it. So and them koi fish aq
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aq them coyfish didn't deserve to go.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
She did anyway. I got to throw that out there too,
by the way. Hell, and she didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Deserve to be there, but my son did even though
he wasn't here. So I don't know how that one works,
But to that point, there were a lot of people
that were supposed to be there and we had a
really really good time.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
But I just they had more fun than I did,
and I thought that was pretty cool. Like, my uncles
are the reason why I played ball and played the
way that I did. I patterned myself after Westinghouse, which
was a super city City League school. My uncles played there.
They were super super fire dudes, and you know, they
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just never were they could make it to that that level.
Didn't make it to that level, I should say. And
and so for them to have the opportunity to live
it out, it was pretty That was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So it's like a wedding, if it's your wedding more.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
People, it's kind of like a wedding, yeah, or a funerals, whichever.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
One you want to call it.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Whoa geez? I was a funeral for me? I ain't
know it was a funeral, they said. When they called
my name, they just been.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Like dead man walking.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Bears all look the same.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The reality is and this is where I feel like
a lot of young men.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
A lot of young men are more prepared for this
now than ever because of the process. They've already been
introduced to negotiations, they've already had some sort of professional
formality to actually playing football in college. A lot of
these guys have been getting paid, so it probably feels
a bit different. I'm not saying that when you go
d one that it wasn't in a way a step
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or part of the dream coming true. But now you're
getting paid on top of that too, in some cases millions.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Of dollars for some of these college kids.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And I do wonder if that wears off the luster
of it a bit, because you know, I remember the
days of being in zomb hall and scrounging it together
change to go get a piece of pizza in her
basement so I could have dinner that night. Like I
remember some of the different struggles that you have as
a college student when you work a job and you're
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trying to manage it and you're trying to have enough
cash or money because the dining hall is closed by
the time I got done with practice and treatment and
then watching film and bringing stuff down preparing for the
next day, and then had to go to study hall
like there was no time.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
And so I remember all those things.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think back to just how much of a rejoice
it was to be able to then be able to
do it as a pro and not have some of
the burdens that came along with that. I shouldn't say burdens,
but the responsibilities that came along with that. So in
one way, like I do wonder if draft Day feels
the same for these guys. When I mean think about
Bryce Leunder with a kid in Michigan. He's just supposed
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we signed a deal of twelve million, Like does it
I mean, it's more money.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It feels great. It's again another step.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But you're making money now, like real money as walking
as a freshman.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And one of the things that I wanted to bring
up that I was reading about the draft and.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Some of the things.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't know if it was this, not even Jay
Glazer who put this out there, who LeVar, you will
be working with tonight a PM Eastern time NFL Draft covers.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Don't look anywhere else Tween Fox, don't.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Anywhere LeVar, Joe Douglas, Jay Glaizer, Jenny Tapp, they got
you covered. Yeah, But I wanted to point out that
medical we've always known there's some teams that just take
a guy off the board because they don't feel like
he'll be able to do it. There's character, which is
another thing right off the field issues. They just feel
like he's a dirt bag. And then there's a third
thing they've brought up that they don't love football. And
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he said there's a number of players now that they
don't know what exactly to attribute it to. But they
do feel like this nil era of college football player
has led now to this point of are they doing
it for the money or football? If they really don't
love football, we're not sure we want to draft them.
They're not on our board because we for this guy
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is not really about what this game takes, what it's about.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, you do. I do wonder how many players
now their goal is to go to the NFL or
their goal is, man, if I can get to college
and it's a good spot and I can make a
little bit of money, maybe I can look elsewhere. It's
not the end all be all like it used to be.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, but it's still I mean, more often than not,
it's still about trying to get to the money. The
money represents a landing place, a destination for you know,
most guys who didn't grow up with money or grew
up even with the structure and conversations that helped you
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understand what having a job or you know, what that
looked like, you know, being in the real world, didn't
have all of that, that guidance, I mean, that was
that was it. So you know, guys can say, well,
I love the game, but if you were to say, well,
what's the motivation? They'll say, Oh, to take care of
my mother, or to take care of you know, my
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baby sister or whatever everybody has there, you know, the chickens. Yeah,
everybody will come up with, you know, what has driven
them and what has taken them to you know that point.
So I mean, you're going to find out if they
love the game once you start paying them. So I
guess it'd be good to figure it out. I guess,
all right, well, do you love the game because you're
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making money in college? I mean, that's an interesting you know,
that's an interesting category to start judging players off of,
because I think people would be lying if they said
that they have the idea of making a seventh figure
having a seven figure job or even a high six
figure job coming out of college and you were able
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to earn it and play for it doing it on
the field. I mean, I think people would be lying.
Too many, too many, not too many people would say,
I don't do it for the money. I don't do
it for just the pure love of the game. I
mean some of that that motivation as to why people
played away they play.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Is to get to the money.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So I mean Jerry Maguire said it best, you know,
Tom Cruise said it best, like show me the money,
And that was based off of getting what he got
a new deal that wasn't a draft.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
But I mean, there he goes Cuba Gooding Junior, who
was well to see the money the quand it was
it was Cuba the kwand yeah, yeah, I don't know though,
but so.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Hold on, hold on. How much were you offered? You
said you're off in thirteen or fourteen?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I told him I won at fourteen. I ended up
with ten. I ended up at Okay. So think about that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Bryce Underwood, the freshman quarterback in Michigan, is getting twelve
or more supposedly on his way in college.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
There you go that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I mean that' take away some of the edge. Yes,
one hundred, that'll take away some of the edge.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And I do I do wonder like at what point
will it stop? Because college football is an expanding sport
and landscape. The ratings have continually gone up and the
media rights have continually gone up, like this thing's only
going to go up for the foreseeable future. And I
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just it's crazy to think what these guys are gonna
cost or what they'll be making, I guess, is the
other way of putting it, and that doesn't include like
what other marketing gets involved.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, it's it's gonna be wild and the.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Whole eligibility but with the settlement, as far as you know,
what the requirement's going to be is going to be
they have to play five years to play four. Are
they gonna get rid of the eligibility rules altogether where
guys can play for five six years?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I mean, think about that.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
There's a realistic scenario where the eligibility rules are going to.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Be challenged and this will almost.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Feel like a minor league to the NFL, and it
might feel like more comparable at some schools like Texas,
Ohio State, maybe Michigan, teams of deep pockets, Penn State,
I don't know how deep the pockets are, maybe Penn State, Georgia,
a Bama.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
These schools they might be able to We're not gonna.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Have a salary cap of you know, two hundred million,
at least not now. But if we're being real, Ohio
State's is over twenty last year and it's only gonna
build from there. Now we've got Kurt Signetti saying some
teams are paying forty they've got a roster of forty million.
Some are closer to you know, past that. So that's
so it's doubled in one year's time. Like that means
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it's gonna get there by twenty thirty if it keeps
growing at the rate it's growing.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Twelve million and twelve million, that's is that the most
that a quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Getting or on his on his way in?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But right now, I mean you you would presumably say
sixteen would be the most over four years, because I
believe Beck's getting four and Nico wanted four, and the
average supposedly based on a data opened Dandors, is over three.
So do the math on that, man, Like more guys
are getting that too. That's just a that's a freshman
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who's ever played before. Brock Perty's made two point eight
in his career. He went to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, Tank Nico Iomaliaba has made more during his time
at Tennessee than brock Purty has so far as the NFL.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
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Speaker 2 (22:38):
And we open up the final hour of This Football
Friday with a special guest, a man you normally hear
on Wednesdays here on the show, but he is grazing
us with his presence here on this Football Friday, the
one and only Petros Papadakas. He is the co host
of the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear
on the Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports, Fox
(22:59):
College Football Analysts, and our good pal here. You can
get him on X at the Old p Petro's good morning.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Good morning, Hello, good morning to everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Helloa bar good morning sir.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
That's on the great coverage last night.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Oh thanks man, thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
You know, we weren't able to carry it in LA
because of the Clipper game, but yeah, yeah, it's unfortunately
that means I had to actually do the first hour
of the draft on the show, which was fun. We
had a good time.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Petro's most importantly, how you feeling.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I'm okay, I'm fine. Thank you for asking, but I'm
doing better.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Some people are calling you names on on social media.
I didn't know that that was public Republican.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
No, No, I was misdiagnosed.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
But I'm right wait wait what hell? What happened?
Speaker 10 (23:48):
No, that I went to I had a bad rash
and I went to the doctor and they told me
I had shingles, and then I went uh. And then
a couple of days later I went back to the
doctor and the doctor was like the other doctor the
dermatologists was like, this isn't shingle. So I was like, Okay,
I guess I can go back outside again. So anyway, Yeah,
I'm healing. I'm doing better.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Wow, conflicting reports, what are you?
Speaker 10 (24:13):
You know, just like Urgent Care on Easter at eight o'clock.
You know, sometimes it's good to get a second opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Well did any of those picks yesterday? I need a
second opinion.
Speaker 10 (24:25):
I mean, you know, time will tell. As Bob Marley said,
you think you're in heaven, but you're really in hell.
But I gotta say, like usually, I mean ninety nine
percent of the time, I have no time for the
NFL Draft, which makes me very different from a lot
of people in the sports world. The event that it's
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become is mind boggling. I mean the fact that there's
two hundred and fifty thousand people or whatever.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
How many people were there, one hundred and fifty g's.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yeah, you know, I mean after the pack picked, they
all boned out. But it was pretty and that. But
that was really late and that's impressive. I mean just
to see it looked.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Like farm Aide. But there's no band.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
I mean that's the thing that really I know they
have performances and stuff, but that's the thing that really
blows my mind about the NFL draft because nothing happens
other than the fact that a guy runs around in
a suit or hugs Goodell, or there's a heartwarming moment
for whoever's announcing the pick, or some nostalgic name from
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the past or some guy and you're like, who's that
because I never saw him without a helmet on. Like
all that is going on. But it's really interesting because
I mean, it didn't used to be like this, or
I didn't feel like it used to be like this,
But I mean NFL coverage in twenty twenty five, or
at least maybe for the last fifteen twenty years, it's
(25:56):
just become like a douche fest, right, it's a douchefest,
like pre half in post is a douchefest. Like I
gotta watch Peter Schrager, you know, I mean it's it's
you know, and I like Peter, but you know what
I'm saying, it's all these guys like trying to out
self important each other, you know, whether it's Rapapoor or
the rap sheet or schefter, you know, I mean, it's
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just these guys in different suits and sweatshirt combos.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Douche Ow what happened to the good old days with
Beino Cook?
Speaker 7 (26:29):
You know, right? You know he wasn't a douche. Now,
he was a drunk old white guy, but he wasn't
a doude.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
And but you know what I mean, Like when you
watch an NFL game or watch NFL Sunday, Yeah, there's
a lot of douchebaggery with the reporting, but at a
certain point it goes away and you watch the game
and that's what people are tuning in.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
For the product.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
It's amazing to me how popular the NFL Draft is
when all it literally is is the douche fest and
the bells and whist of the doucheri and it's it's
it's amazing how how popular the event is. I have
to say I watched the event last night for the
first time and uh in a long time, with a
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lot more interest for one reason, and that was the
same reason maybe a lot of other people were watching
is uh Shador wasn't getting drafted, and not like I
expected him to get drafted or didn't expect him to
get drafted. I mean I I I am not a
breaker down of tape when it comes to this stuff.
I've seen a lot of Chadure to have my opinions
(27:35):
about him as a football analyst. But it's really interesting
because literally you had Joel Klatt, our colleague.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
And friend, who was angry.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
I mean, he was mad that Schadur didn't get picked Lewis,
the Lewis guy, Ritticks.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
He was pissed.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
Mel Kiper was livid to where they picked Jackson and
New York trades backhand to pick that Jackson Dart. They're
playing Jackson Dart highlights and mel Kiper is just talking
about Shador and like schnor Din get picked, you know,
And and that's if there's thirty two NFL teams that
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didn't pick him, that doesn't mean that he's not gonna
have a good career, that he's not gonna be a
player in the NFL and have an opportunity.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
But it's really interesting.
Speaker 10 (28:25):
I mean, Lewis Riddick sat there and said he could
have a better career than Tom Brady, he could have
a better career than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
And it's like you didn't say that, Yes he did.
You know he did.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
I'll play it for you and and you know that.
I mean, it just starts to get desperate. These guys
are trying to.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I don't know what benefit. What's the benefit of doing that.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
I guess you don't want to piss off Dion and
Dion you'd call Dion and say, I mean the same thing.
Where Like you just heard a Colin Coward clip about
how old Lebron is the one that you could feel
his presence out there. It's like that's the only person
that said that. Everybody else is said Lebron is slipping.
You know, well, what does Cowhard say that for? Because
Maverick Carter one of those guys gonna call him and say,
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good on you, Colin, We'll give you the next whatever.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
I mean, I get it. No, that's what it is.
Speaker 10 (29:09):
I mean, I get it, it's currency, but at a
certain point, it's like when every pundit is screaming and
whining for something and the NFL gms are rejecting it
pick after pick after pick. At a certain point it's
like what am I watching? You know, ESPN is sitting
here trying to make fetch happen and it's it's that
(29:30):
made it interesting to me just to see how it
was playing out. And at the same I mean, and
I mean, we can have a conversation about it, unless
you guys want to change the topic, but it is
an interesting thing to me because you think about it
and whether you like Sho do as a player or not,
or whether you think what happened at Colorado was a
super remarkable sea change of college football or that they
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just did okay out running a lot of the expectations.
I mean, we could have an argument about that or not.
But I mean, if I'm an NFL franchise, I mean,
do you really how good is he to invite that in?
I mean, that's usually the weight, right, the balance of
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the scales of justice of football is you look at
a guy and you say, how good is he compared
to what we have to deal with if we pick him,
and in some instances it's a yes, you know, for
different guys. I mean, obviously Johnny Manziel is a great example.
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I mean, huge red flags all the way around, but
somebody was willing to deal with that to try to
develop him as a football player. Other guys for different reasons.
The guy at the guy from Inland Empire in Washington,
Jaden Daniels, I mean, his mom is with him every
step of the way, just like Lamar Jack, and some
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people would see that as a detriment. I know a
lot of people see that as a detriment. But those
franchises have said, no, no, no, we'll deal with that
whatever comes with that, And it's working out pretty well
for the Ravens with Lamar and for Jadeen Daniels.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
In d C.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
That's something that they said, Okay, this is all something
we've heard about. These are whispers that we have to
deal with this mom and the family in a different
kind of way. Okay, let's try to do it and
pull it off. And it seems to be working out,
so that part of it, you know, just that balance
of how good is this guy compared to how much.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Of a distraction he'll be.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
And if you bring in Shador and he's not playing,
somebody's gonna ask Deon about it. And you know, Dion
might criticize you your GM if he is playing and
not doing well, he might criticize the old line. He
might make headlines, you know a lot of that stuff.
A lot of these maybes, uh waight up with what
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Shador actually is as a football player, that that might
have kept him out of the first round.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
But but when you think about it, an NFL team
that brings him in and then some nightmare ensues, they'd
feel pretty stupid because everybody else might have seen it coming.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't know if you guys get the same feeling
as me. And this isn't apples to apples, but I
feel like some of the coverage is starting to remind
me a little bit of Brownie James.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Like it just again, I saw that on Twitter, you
know what I mean? Where if Phil tells you you're
not looking at what you're looking at. But but you know,
I mean, I I don't think that's fair to should
do herself well and.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He's deserved way better. I mean, they're both going to
be second round picks. But again, I don't want to
get caught up in the weeds here, but I'm just saying,
as far as the coverage of it, it does feel like, well,
you know, the guy who's the guy has nowhere close
to being the best player in the draft is the
most polarizing player in the draft, all because of a good.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
Amount of the pundits last night on both networks covering
the event, which have exclusive coverage. We're throwing an on
air temper tantrum over it. I mean, though, seriously, to
where that was the whole draft and that is I mean,
I think that speaks to your point. I mean, and
and a lot of people said last night in social media, sorry,
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ESPN's whole pr push.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Couldn't get this guy draft.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
And it's true though, I mean, and it just goes
to show, I mean, there's such a thing as media pressure,
and there's such a thing as kind of a general consensus.
But these guys are not going to be bullied into
picking somebody they don't want to pick before they have
to pick them. And the market in the NFL is
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the biggest meritocracy there is in the world. As far
as a player in and that whole person and what
it means to the franchise. These these things are gigantic
investments nowadays, and the value of it all is just rocketed,
and the market tells you what your value is. And
(34:17):
I think that was a really hard lesson last night
for everybody who thinks that they can just go on
They have so much power just going on TV and
screaming into a camera about something they think is favorable
for them to say. Because of one reason or another,
the market in the NFL tells you what's what.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
And I do think that that was.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
It got to the point where it was just kind
of gross last night, where it's like, can this guy smile?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know?
Speaker 10 (34:45):
Is he that mad about Shador that he can't smile?
I mean, how angry are these guys that he's not
getting picked for one reason or another? And that was
really it probably shouldn't have been, but very entertaining for me,
you know, you.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Know what I've been trying to understand, and because there's
so much to be talked about and discussed about the draft,
but what I don't understand is is how like, Okay,
I get it's Dion and and I get that you know,
it's the capital and all that stuff that's connected to it.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I understand that. I just help me understand, Uh, why how.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Do you become that big of a storyline And we're
not even really discussing like nuts the nuts if you ask.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
Me, right, I mean, but that's Colorado football the last
couple of years too.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
So it's like you create a smoke screen of impact
and effect. Is that?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Is that what this really comes down to? Because I mean,
think about it. We're retiring jerseys, you know, we're up
for the Heisman, We're heading into the draft.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
We're talking top five.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Pick, and he has dominated the narrative and the storylines
of this entire draft, maybe outside of Travis.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Hunter, maybe even the entire college football season.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Yeah. No, I think you're right in a lot of ways.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
And you wonder how much of it is merited and
how much of it is just a media event, And
I mean it's probably sixty forty, you know, and it
is unfortunate because but you know, if it works, if
it bleeds, it leads, and Colorado football is getting ratings
(36:39):
whether or not if they're mediocre or just a little
bit above mediocre, or how much they've improved all of
that is relative to how many people are watching. So
if the market, I mean, that's the flip side of
the coin. If the market's telling you everybody wants to
watch the dor Sanders or the circus that is Colorado,
(37:01):
or the circus that's having a little bit more success
that in Colorado. If you're looking at year two last year,
which was a lot more impressive but still not good
enough to really challenge for the big twelfth title or
anything like that, the market dictated that too. People want
to watch, and it became a big topic. But I
(37:21):
do think at a certain point it's a responsibility of
the networks to try to just water down the coverage.
You know what it reminds me a little bit of
LeVar is the Lonzo Ball thing, you know. I mean
Lonzo Ball got picked by the Lakers because and everybody's like, well,
you can't blame magic for that, it's just a local pressure.
(37:42):
And it's like, well, people look back, not even like
five years later, which is usually the way to judge
a draft, but people look back like a year later,
and they were like, well, what about this dearon Fox?
What about this Jason Tatum? What the hell were you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Doing Petro's magic, said that his jersey was going up
in the rafters, was right next to the Taylor Swift
banner or something like that.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
See that was a media event too, right, Like that
was a total media event. The LeVar ball was going
on Colin Cowherd and fighting with that Leahy chick whatever
happened to her. Uh you know what I mean, Like
every day it was, Oh my god, Lvar said he
could beat Michael Jordan one on one. Oh, LaVar said
(38:23):
he could win motorcross. Oh, LaVar said, you know, I
mean it just never stopped. LaVar could win La Mon's
uh and uh, it just kept going and going, and
it became a media event. Lonzo Ball got picked, and
then the dust kind of settled, and media people wondered
if the Lakers didn't kind of get bullied into that.
I mean, Magic Johnson's excuse was literally, I we had
(38:46):
great waffle strawberry pancakes and Chino Hills, so I picked.
I mean it was amazing, it really was.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
We got good strawberries out in Chino.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
Right, and but that but that was a situation, you're
right about that. Wait right now, agricultural area.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
They got good strawberries out in China.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Really yeah, no doubt, very agricultural.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Not just Oxnard. They got them in.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
I played football with some good players from the Nard.
There you go, Nardcore, Kerry Colbert, Jacob Rogers, Chad Pearson, carry.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
You get over that Camerio grad. It's a whole different world.
Speaker 10 (39:21):
I remember Kerry Colbert tried to drive on my recruiting trip,
you know, because we were all I mean, on his
recruiting trip.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I was his host, and he was like, you sure,
maybe I should drive.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You know.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
We had a car full of idiots, and I was like, dude,
you're black, this is South Central I gotta drive.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
I had to tell him about you know, he was
from Oxnard.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
Petro a guy I mean back in the back of
the nineties in South central lav Army.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Come on, I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Petro is the guy that you were spoke very highly
of in your deal hold over on his recruiting, in
your dealings, in your dealings with him throughout the core
of calling games, Ashton Gent he ends up with the Raiders. Yeah,
And as the draft got closer, more and more people
were kind of echoing your sentiment throughout the course of it.
Great kid, great player, that's one that feels like it's
(40:13):
gonna work at the next level.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Yeah, I mean, I love the player and I got
to see him a whole lot ever since his true
freshman year at Boise, and he had a lot of
wear and care last year. I mean, they gave him
so many carries and he was literally carrying the whole town,
the whole conference, the whole blue turf deal, all the
way to how far they got, which was maybe the
(40:37):
greatest season in Boise history. But you have to look
at him in an interesting way. He was a slot guy.
You know, he grew up in Italy and stuff. You
heard the story because the military family, and he came
to Texas and he was a slot guy for a
little while, started playing running back when he.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Got to Boise.
Speaker 10 (40:57):
He didn't start his freshman and sophomore. Ye, I mean,
he played and you could tell he was good. But
there was a guy named George Holani who was a
running back from Servite, same place as Tetroa. McMillan and
Mason Graham who got picked last night. Survilled high school
in UH in Los Angeles, Orange County area and the
(41:18):
Friars and yeah, and Uh it's it was. It was
interesting just to see kind of how that played out.
And uh, George Holani was their starter and Jentie kind
of kind of sort of spelled him. And it really
wasn't until like midway through last year and then and
(41:40):
or midway through two years ago and last year where
it was like, Wow, this guy's a really special running back.
He's really hard to tackle. I mean, he's got so
many of the weird intangibles and and the great attitude
and and a lot of the physical gifts. But he
his will to not get tackled is amazing.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
He's jacked. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
And then there's two things too, Like that Cam scataboo
is like that too, right, that Arizona State white guy
that looks like a criminal. I mean, you could take
the sack. You can take the Sacramento out of the
small college back. I mean you could take the small
college back out of Sacramento.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
He can't take the Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And cam' scataboo does look like a guy who would
go to lock up in two weeks, have a cheer,
he'd have a tear drop tattoo.
Speaker 10 (42:23):
But he's getting sued for like breaking some guy's hip
on a on a golf cart.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
But like the thing about Cam Scattaboo is and he
might have a very good NFL career, I don't know.
And I loved him as a back, But if he
broke a tackle, which he often did, very difficult to
tackle one on one a lot like Genty, he goes
another two three yards past that point. If Genty breaks
your tackle, he can really scatter away from you accelerate quickly.
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And that was really the thing that set Genty apart,
aside from all the really special things he does in
the box as a back, it was the fact that
he could turn you know, what's a good twelve to
fifteen yard run for most backs, and he goes seventy.
He finds a way to keep it going. He has
a plan down the field, and that is really remarkable.
(43:17):
I mean you could see his long runs and just
how he keeps on going. And when you have a
game where you have twenty five thirty carries and you're
ripping off thirty forty yard runs, I mean that that
guy was a was a real battery powered animal last year.
And I can't wait to see what he does with
the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Well, get him on X at the Old p Petros Pavedicas,
the co host of the Petro Some Money Show, which
you can hear on the blowtorchs.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I was saying, I was saying earlier, Dude, dude, I mean,
I feel like there's the possibility he does if you
if you've talked all this about him, and if the
value is what people were trying to make it out
to be, he goes in the first round. So the
fact that he didn't go in the first round, would
you be surprised if he slipped out of the second half.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
I think everybody, all these guys are looking at each
other in the.
Speaker 10 (44:11):
NFL said no, you do it, You do it, you know,
I mean, Pete, you deal with like I mean, and
in many ways, like t Bow or like Kaepernick. You know,
in one way or the other. It's like you want
to invite the circus into your town. Whether it's right
or wrong to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
We don't want to, I mean, Petros, there's actually a
good chance he might get drafted while you guys are
on the air later, get him on at the olp.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
Hey scruts as funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
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Speaker 2 (44:59):
Lee just dropped some information on me that he does
this from time to time, where this was a he
Man spin off. Well, you find out more about Lee
that he just in the process of conversation, he just
kind of drops on you and you go, wait, what
Lee explained this song and what it means to you.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
Skeleton Warriors also a Saturday Morning cartoon that my old
man had created based off of the imaginary game I
would play with myself in the backyard called Skeleton Warriors
because he had done the code.
Speaker 12 (45:27):
In the Barbarian the live action show.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
So I was always on set. And you know that
is based off of you being in the backyard playing
with yourself.
Speaker 12 (45:34):
Yep, that's right, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, man, you were away at a pee wee herman.
Speaker 11 (45:45):
Skeleton Warriors looking up its great toy line semi successful
Saturday Morning cartoons.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
So a game video played in the backyard became a
TV show and a toy line. As a kid, Yes,
and you just thought to bring that up now out
of nowhere.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Barber was my my jam on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That wasn't your game wasn't written about you had a
show written about?
Speaker 6 (46:06):
Oh, no, I get it. That's that's pretty This is Lee.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
This is saying it was created by Gary Goddard.
Speaker 11 (46:12):
That's correct. Yeah, Gary Goddard and Robert Gary Landmark Entertainment.
Gary Goddard is a is a famous theme park designer.
Also did Captain Power. But yeah, my old man, you know,
my old man was the right hand man to uh
Landmark Entertainment, which produced and created Skeleton.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Orders, Skeleton war Look at my child out back playing
with hisself. Skeleton Warriors. Get that out of their hands?
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Sound not that?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
No, I can't get him. That last segment, like every
every part of Lee always makes me just laugh.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
That's a wild life, man, it is.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
But also just the creation of seeing Lee back in
the backyard.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
Oh what is skeleton bone?
Speaker 7 (47:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Yeah, only child imaginary skeleton bone. That explains it all
to me.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Pretty awesome, man. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you here.
Speaker 9 (47:30):
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been working with Lee. Never one time as he brought up,
(47:52):
Oh yeah, there was a cartoon on TV and toys
attached to the cartoon that was written about me playing
in my backyard.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
By myself with myself.
Speaker 12 (48:07):
Baby happens. Yeah, so, Prince light Star, baby.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
What what?
Speaker 12 (48:17):
That's the theme of the of the show, Prince light
Star versus Barry Dark.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
How much of the show was your creation?
Speaker 11 (48:24):
I was Prince Light Star and then I would fight.
I would fight skeleton warriors, and then they took it
from there. I would fight skeletons.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Why are you the light Star? Where'd you get this from?
I don't know what a kid would say, not recreated
the name Lee?
Speaker 12 (48:41):
Yeah Light Star?
Speaker 7 (48:42):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Are you out of breath?
Speaker 7 (48:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:45):
I guess so.
Speaker 11 (48:46):
Why I was running around in the hallways being Prince
White Star play skeleton warriors.
Speaker 12 (48:52):
Skeleton Warriors, They're still around you still fighting them?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
This explains everything. I'm so enlightened now Now I know
why Lee walks the way he walks, moves around the
way he moves around. He was prepared for that throat
from Brady.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
He was able to escape the Skeleton Warrior or whatever
and get away and catch the ball.
Speaker 13 (49:14):
Like it makes sense now, it makes sense. Like we
were like, oh, he must have been a pretty good
football player. No, you were in the backyard training for
all that time and they ended up making a true
story cartoon after you, Lee.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Man. Man, I'm looking up the Prince Light Star action figure.
It looks like Lee. I mean, he does have like
a drink in his.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
Hand, but.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
He looks like Lee. If Lee really wanted to be
a superhero, like.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Instead of the producer of two pros and a cup
of jokes, win a different direction.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Lee, You like they better cut you a check for this.
You got a toy line named after you?
Speaker 6 (49:54):
That's right.
Speaker 12 (49:54):
Yeah, you can still find these toys. They're they're huge collectibles.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
I was about to say how much they cost in
terms of collector's items.
Speaker 11 (50:02):
Uh, you know, I see him at Collector's stories here
and there. It's not like it's not going to break
your bank at all. It's fifty bucks?
Speaker 5 (50:09):
Which one you think is more? Which one you think
is more valuable? This guy right here or a Silverhawk?
Speaker 12 (50:19):
The silver Hawks might be super collectible because I'd never
heard of those before.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
Really.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
So the show is called Skeleton Warriors, is that right?
Speaker 12 (50:27):
That is correct? Ran for one season, I think, yeah,
one season nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Back in the day.
Speaker 12 (50:37):
Captain Power was another show they.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
Did, was maybe Captain Power.
Speaker 12 (50:41):
Yeah, Captain Power.
Speaker 11 (50:42):
That was like one where they had like the toy
line where you could uh interact with the TV. It
didn't really work that well, but like they would. They
would give you the gun that you could like shoot
at the TV and would interact.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I just sent you guys a picture of another of
this action figure and it looks like with the thing
on his face, it looks like after he fell in
New Orleans. I'm telled Lee, they owe you money, dude.
Speaker 12 (51:04):
Yeah, I was. I did do a lot of work
that I did not get paid for.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
It's unbelievable. You I didn't even know you was working.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (51:13):
I was doing like voice acting and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Oh God, so much money.
Speaker 12 (51:18):
I was a voice of Casper in Korea. For the
theme park ride.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
That wo you got bum stealing stuff out of the
back of your car and you're owed hundreds of thousands
of dollars. Hold on, do you speak Korean? Like?
Speaker 10 (51:32):
No?
Speaker 11 (51:32):
It was No, it was in English, and people in
Korean a lot. Most people in Greece speak English as well,
but in South Korea?
Speaker 4 (51:38):
What did you have to say?
Speaker 12 (51:40):
Follow me, I know the secret way back. Look out,
a train's coming. You know, one of those dark rides.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Whatever, Oh my gosh, you're oh my god, do it again?
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Do it again?
Speaker 12 (51:52):
Look out, a train's coming. Follow me, I know the
secret way back.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Can you.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Was that from Skeleton Warriors?
Speaker 12 (51:59):
No, it's Casper, the Friendly Ghost.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Well Casper and Korea the Korean Ghost. Yeah, he didn't
make the he didn't make the American cot. Give me
the Korean cut.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
By the way, you know how many people didn't make
it back?
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Do you know how many people are listening on the
iHeartRadio app a career right now? Damn that guy from.
Speaker 12 (52:20):
The liquor store, that's what I was.
Speaker 6 (52:27):
Who would have known? You got coop out out ranked
like totally trumped.
Speaker 12 (52:34):
He wears all this bin u repressed memories.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
And all this time you spend talking about garbage ass
movies you go to see with Todd and you are
in like well known stuff with action figures about yourself
that you could have been talking about this whole time.
Speaker 12 (52:53):
Well known as a strong term.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
But yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
It was.
Speaker 12 (52:56):
I thought it was pretty good. Skilled to wars Man
Saturday Morning Cartoon. I thought should have gone longer.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Hang god, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 12 (53:05):
All right, We'll still got the videotapes. We can put
them on later.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I guess that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (53:12):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (53:19):
Why would we be transitioning into other stuff so quick?
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh man, it's so stupid.
Speaker 12 (53:24):
This is sod.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
I'm perplexed that we're just now finding out about that.
Speaker 6 (53:28):
I'm blowing away here.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
How much does that?
Speaker 6 (53:32):
We heard the theme song One More Tame? It's the
theme song still around? Can we hear One More Tame?
Speaker 7 (53:37):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (53:37):
You know what you should do?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Redo the video of Lee catching that pass at the
Super Bowl to this to that song. Yeah, see if
you can do that. Oh snap, puts that double move
on that tichierity card. Oh snap, Brady throwing the ball
with a soop.
Speaker 7 (54:08):
Warriors.
Speaker 12 (54:11):
Here's the best part.
Speaker 7 (54:14):
Lightstar. He's got the power. I can't little.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Crin Prince Leleton Warrior, Prince Light Star himself was lead
to laugh this entire time. Skeleton Warriors. Amazing revelation to
find out here.
Speaker 5 (54:45):
Bad to the Bone Baby, back to the bone, the
Skeleton Warrior.
Speaker 6 (54:54):
That is a T shirt. Damn the Skeleton Warrior. Dad
to the Bone.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Do you have a T shirt?
Speaker 12 (55:02):
I got a bunch of T shirts.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
Man, they really screwed you out of a bunch of money.
Oh who's your agent?
Speaker 6 (55:08):
Might come back?
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Who knows?
Speaker 6 (55:09):
Oh, my god, to the bone. I'm blown away. I'm
gonna have a hard time focusing the rest of the show, man, like.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
I don't know how to talk to him now, Like
your majesty, my.
Speaker 14 (55:24):
Man was out in the back sitting. It actually explains
a lot. It explains a lot because I don't feel
like Lee lives in reality. So based on his childhood,
this big, long, fictitious cartoon, it now makes complete sense.
He's just never left that, you know, little kid who
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was out in the backyard playing with his skeleton bone
by himself.
Speaker 12 (55:52):
No hold on, I had the sword and I was
fighting the Skeleton Warriors.
Speaker 8 (55:55):
Just to make things clear, whoa, oh, Lorena gets even
deeper easy now, Oh my gosh, wait.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
A second, there's a there's a trading card as well too,
from the clear.
Speaker 6 (56:10):
Yeah right, that's that.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Well, Lorena already put herself in.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
I tried to ignore that.
Speaker 6 (56:20):
That is amazingly, that is amazing.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
There's an actual trading card four Amazon right now you
can get and it's based off of Lee all right. Hey,
something you learn new every day here on the show.
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
We do it here live on Draft Day. It is
Draft Day. It is finally here we can put aside
all the speculation and we can start holding people accountable
for some of these garbage betting lines that are out there,
these over unders, all that stuff. Now we're gonna get
the real answers coming up later on tonight. How fired
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up are you, guys? Nice exciting, good talk. No, this
is an awesome day.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is a life changing day for so many guys
out there who sacrificed a ton to get there. The parents,
the caretakers, people who have poured into these young men,
sacrificed so much for them to have a chance to
get there, the coaches, and it's just an awesome I
mean you.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Think back to all the hard work, everything that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Goes into this stuff for these young men and and
this is that moment where they get to see their
dreams come true.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
So there's nothing like Draft Day.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's it's one of the most incredible events in your life,
especially at this point. But more than anything else, it
is the greatest reality TV of all time, the best.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same time,
just because of everything that surrounds it. But the guys,
what were you stressed about? There's always something, there's always
something to stress out about in my case.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Like having to wait ten minutes to get drafted. That
is that your story?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, well, back then, they they negotiated before the draft,
the first pick negotiated.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I was back then.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It was the same thing for me.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I was in.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
But the difference between you and me was I was
negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating, so I
was on the phone. So I didn't I didn't feel
myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it because there
were so many people talking to me. My agent was
talking to me, both franchises were talking to me, and
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so it was kind of like I didn't get an
opportunity to really like take it all in because they
were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of the
entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you, but
you know it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that It was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when
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you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know,
and that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like, you know, I
want to be signable, but my agent saying to trusting
and I'm like, well, look, man, look man, I want
to be one. I wanted to go one. Look man,
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look hey, look here, man, don't mess this up for me.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
The Raiders sent i'd like a construct of a deal
to four guys in our draft year, JaMarcus, myself, Calvin Johnson,
and then there's one other. I can't remember who it was.
I know I it was Joe Thomas or someone else.
But my agent day before it was like, I don't
even know what to make of this, Like it was
like a very rough draft, like percentages of things. He said,
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I'm not really going to entertain her and take it seriously,
he goes, because it's not like a real offer. He goes,
this is what they're trying to like take it, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Sell everyone on.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And if this is why they want to like take
someone at one because they're going to take a lesser deal.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He's like, it's not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So, you know, ultimately, I don't know that anyone did
anything with whatever they sent, but eventually they end up
taking Joe Argus.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
One, Calvin went two, and et cetera. But that was
it was that slash.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know, you're dealing with, at least in my case,
all sorts of different information you're being passed along.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I kind of knew talking to the Cleveland Browns that
I Bojoe Thomas and I were there.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
At three, that they were gonna take Joe, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They they told me that we talked about that, and
then I'd thought, at least from what I've been told
from Miami Dolphins that like I wasn't gonna go past
nine because of all the conversation we had. Terry Shay
was their quarterback coach on Cam Cameron's staff, and that
was why I worked with for a good portion of
the preparation leading up to it. Had sad some really
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good you know, workouts and time spending with Cam Cameron.
Now come to find out there was a bit of
a relationship. This is like, I don't know if I've
ever told this part of the story. There was a
bit of a relationship with Terry Bisky, whose son Brian
Ribiski played with Ted Gin Junior Ohio State, and apparently
behind the scenes he went all in to try to
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see if he could persuade them to draft Ted gans
Junior nine and explain who's a playmaker, his speed, his
special teams, I media impact, all that stuff. So that's
a little more context how it all kind of went down.
But the reality is is it works out out. To hell,
it's gonna work out.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
That didn't stretch you out. That didn't stretch you out
into it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, not going into it, like honestly I was with
it was it was the first time that week because
so for a lot of you know, a lot of
guys when when we went to New York, you get
there on like Monday. So I had been like going
to different charity events, going to different promotional events. You know,
I was getting up at four thirty to work out
of five, you know, I was doing I had a
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guy who came out there who was I did some
cross training with boxing, So we would go we do
some cardio, we'd hit some mits.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
We'd then go you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Know, workouts to stay in shape, which I get some
throws in there in the little indoor, and I was
doing that every day at five. We had to be
on the bus by seven, So it was a it
was a not I was gonna say, like a long
week or a grueling week, but you know, I was
there doing kind of my normal routine of what that
would look like at that time. So it wasn't like,
you know, I got to like see everyone, you know,
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my grandma, my my family from Kentucky, like all these
people came out, some of us who'd never been to
New York. So I was just looking for an opportunity
to see everyone. And that was really that the final opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Got to see everyone. I think we went to some party.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I remember like hold of my grandma's hand is we're
walking through this this rap concert. I don't know if
it was Fat Joe or who it was, but I
just remember looking back up as I was my grandma.
This same for us, and uh, I think I saw
JaMarcus Russell on stage like rapping with with someone else.
Oh well, uh, And so we literally walked to the front,
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took some pictures or whatever on the red carpet, and
we walked right out the back door, and I was like, yep,
we we came. We saw, we went on, and we
moved on, and then we found like an Irish bar
we went and kind of basically closed down that night.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So it was just it was it was a celebration,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It was a big moment for I think everyone who
had supported me and who had been a part of
the process the entire time.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
I had a ton of people there both sides. All
my grandparents were still alive, my uncles, my aunts, cousins,
I mean, coaches, teammates, like, I had a ton of
people there, but I couldn't focus in on really really
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just being able to enjoy myself because it just I
just didn't know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I didn't know a little.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I felt a little bit of stress just even seeing
how many people were there, you know, for me, and
and I just you know, I know, I know you
guys might think this sounds crazy, but I really don't
like a lot of attention. Go it, laugh, do which
I want to do, whatever you want to do with it,
but I really don't like a ton of attention. And
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cause you know, y'all like to like break, break, on
me and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh, you're you're king of mammals.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Why would I like, Yeah, yeah, your your logo pictures
you running a blue whale.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I'm going to say the largest creature I'm going to
So anyway, Uh so Cleveland, Cleveland was trying to get
the deal done and I kind of I, if I'm
being honest, I didn't want to play for Cleveland. I
one hundred percent wanted to go to Washington at two.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They get that though you grew up, you grew up
in Pittsburgh, like you probably thought, well, I wanted to
go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I wanted to go to Pittsburgh. But I'm just saying, like,
if you grew up in me, I don't like Cleveland, right.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Right, I probably thought they were awful. Uh they they
weren't good. They were not They definitely were not good.
And they so what year was this, two thousand.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So they just came back and that so they were
an expansion team too. Like that's the other part of
it is there.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Wasn't came back right yeah, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Their first year back was nineteen ninety nine, so there
was one year removed from the expansion draft.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Like I like Wally Rayner, like, there were a couple
guys that I liked there, but I just.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Didn't want to go there stealing and dirty. I'm looking
at that draft class right now, they're at eight. They
were at eight. Yeah, but they but Washington had the
second and the third pick.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Was and third yea, and they weren't giving them up.
They were they they knew exactly who they were going,
like twenty twenty hindsight, they knew exactly who they were taking,
you know, at that point. But they started negotiating with me, like, well,
because here's what's wild. Dan Snyder told me to pull
my my my junk out and in the center of
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the Cleveland Brown's helmet logo, do my business on it,
throw the deuces up, and tell them I.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Don't even need to do this meeting. I'm going to Washington.
Right wait, what that's what he told me, my, that's
he told me at my last meeting.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Probably that should have been a red flag. It should
have been a red flag.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But that also would pumps you up, would not like, like,
well then then they prop me up.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Hell yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Know, I mean then in the moment, I was like, yeah,
of course, that's what I'm saying like.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
I don't want to.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Look, I'm being all literal to the dude.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I was like, look, I don't want to get in trouble,
and I don't I don't want to get in between
any of you guys, is like your ownerships, like kind
of like beefs or anything like that. I don't want
to get arrested. But I mean, if you really want
me to do it, you know that we started laughing,
what but I can't. But that kind the first sign,
by the way, that was the first and that was
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first red flag. But and you don't know it. You
don't realize, like, dang, this dude is crazy. In the moment,
you're like, oh, man, like this dude's like he loves
me this, that and the other. He thinks like this
that you're the most awesome person in the world to die, this,
that and the other. And I'm coming here, right. So
I go back to Cleveland. I tell Cleveland you got
(10:52):
to pay me quarterback money. If you don't pay me
somewhere around fourteen. Look, fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Is that crazy? I'll pay me something like fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm not I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Like we can't do it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
And they were like, yeah, we're not going to give
you that, and so I was like, well, I'm gonna
stay firm on fourteen, and they went and got Courtney.
Courtney's agent was like, well, what is he asking for.
I went to Courtney. I told Corty, I said, don't
negotiate with them, just tell them your number, cause I'm
they've clearly established that they're talking to me and him,
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which is unique, you know, because me and him were
going to be the first my teammate went first overall
in that draft, so that was pretty cool. So we're
on the phone and I'm telling him like, I'm not
going to negotiate with him no more. So push it
up as high as you can.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
So then once they found out, Vinnie Serrado was calling
my agent's like, look, man, Dan told me, if he's
not signable, we want them. We want to take him
at too, but we will take them at three if
we have to, just to kind of, you know, kind
of knock it down just a little bit, make it
more negotiable. So you got to be negotiable at too,
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So they were negotiating against their third pick as well.
In the scenario, so it was interesting. It was an
interesting experience. But yeah, that that was kind of how
it went for me. And I had a baby on
the way, Keno Keno was in the in the oven
and he was cooking up. So I had a pregnant
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ass baby mama on my hands at that time. Well
I loved her at the time. She was my fiance
at the time. But you know, different story now. But
part of the koyfish, I mean, she didn't make it.
She didn't make it. So and them koi fish aq
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aq them coyfish didn't deserve to go.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
She did anyway. I got to throw that out there too,
by the way. Hell, and she didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Deserve to be there, but my son did even though
he wasn't here. So I don't know how that one works,
But to that point, there were a lot of people
that were supposed to be there and we had a
really really good time.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
But I just they had more fun than I did,
and I thought that was pretty cool. Like, my uncles
are the reason why I played ball and played the
way that I did. I patterned myself after Westinghouse, which
was a super city City League school. My uncles played there.
They were super super fire dudes, and you know, they
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just never were they could make it to that that level.
Didn't make it to that level, I should say. And
and so for them to have the opportunity to live
it out, it was pretty That was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So it's like a wedding, if it's your wedding more.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
People, it's kind of like a wedding, yeah, or a funerals, whichever.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
One you want to call it.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Whoa geez? I was a funeral for me? I ain't
know it was a funeral, they said. When they called
my name, they just been.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Like dead man walking.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Bears all look the same.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The reality is and this is where I feel like
a lot of young men.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
A lot of young men are more prepared for this
now than ever because of the process. They've already been
introduced to negotiations, they've already had some sort of professional
formality to actually playing football in college. A lot of
these guys have been getting paid, so it probably feels
a bit different. I'm not saying that when you go
d one that it wasn't in a way a step
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or part of the dream coming true. But now you're
getting paid on top of that too, in some cases millions.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Of dollars for some of these college kids.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And I do wonder if that wears off the luster
of it a bit, because you know, I remember the
days of being in zomb hall and scrounging it together
change to go get a piece of pizza in her
basement so I could have dinner that night. Like I
remember some of the different struggles that you have as
a college student when you work a job and you're
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trying to manage it and you're trying to have enough
cash or money because the dining hall is closed by
the time I got done with practice and treatment and
then watching film and bringing stuff down preparing for the
next day, and then had to go to study hall
like there was no time.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
And so I remember all those things.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think back to just how much of a rejoice
it was to be able to then be able to
do it as a pro and not have some of
the burdens that came along with that. I shouldn't say burdens,
but the responsibilities that came along with that. So in
one way, like I do wonder if draft Day feels
the same for these guys. When I mean think about
Bryce Leunder with a kid in Michigan. He's just supposed
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we signed a deal of twelve million, Like does it
I mean, it's more money.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It feels great. It's again another step.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But you're making money now, like real money as walking
as a freshman.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And one of the things that I wanted to bring
up that I was reading about the draft and.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Some of the things.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't know if it was this, not even Jay
Glazer who put this out there, who LeVar, you will
be working with tonight a PM Eastern time NFL Draft covers.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Don't look anywhere else Tween Fox, don't.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Anywhere LeVar, Joe Douglas, Jay Glaizer, Jenny Tapp, they got
you covered. Yeah, But I wanted to point out that
medical we've always known there's some teams that just take
a guy off the board because they don't feel like
he'll be able to do it. There's character, which is
another thing right off the field issues. They just feel
like he's a dirt bag. And then there's a third
thing they've brought up that they don't love football. And
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he said there's a number of players now that they
don't know what exactly to attribute it to. But they
do feel like this nil era of college football player
has led now to this point of are they doing
it for the money or football? If they really don't
love football, we're not sure we want to draft them.
They're not on our board because we for this guy
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is not really about what this game takes, what it's about.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, you do. I do wonder how many players
now their goal is to go to the NFL or
their goal is, man, if I can get to college
and it's a good spot and I can make a
little bit of money, maybe I can look elsewhere. It's
not the end all be all like it used to be.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, but it's still I mean, more often than not,
it's still about trying to get to the money. The
money represents a landing place, a destination for you know,
most guys who didn't grow up with money or grew
up even with the structure and conversations that helped you
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understand what having a job or you know, what that
looked like, you know, being in the real world, didn't
have all of that, that guidance, I mean, that was
that was it. So you know, guys can say, well,
I love the game, but if you were to say, well,
what's the motivation? They'll say, Oh, to take care of
my mother, or to take care of you know, my
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baby sister or whatever everybody has there, you know, the chickens. Yeah,
everybody will come up with, you know, what has driven
them and what has taken them to you know that point.
So I mean, you're going to find out if they
love the game once you start paying them. So I
guess it'd be good to figure it out. I guess,
all right, well, do you love the game because you're
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making money in college? I mean, that's an interesting you know,
that's an interesting category to start judging players off of,
because I think people would be lying if they said
that they have the idea of making a seventh figure
having a seven figure job or even a high six
figure job coming out of college and you were able
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to earn it and play for it doing it on
the field. I mean, I think people would be lying.
Too many, too many, not too many people would say,
I don't do it for the money. I don't do
it for just the pure love of the game. I
mean some of that that motivation as to why people
played away they play.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Is to get to the money.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So I mean Jerry Maguire said it best, you know,
Tom Cruise said it best, like show me the money,
And that was based off of getting what he got
a new deal that wasn't a draft.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
But I mean, there he goes Cuba Gooding Junior, who
was well to see the money the quand it was
it was Cuba the kwand yeah, yeah, I don't know though,
but so.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Hold on, hold on. How much were you offered? You
said you're off in thirteen or fourteen?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I told him I won at fourteen. I ended up
with ten. I ended up at Okay. So think about that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Bryce Underwood, the freshman quarterback in Michigan, is getting twelve
or more supposedly on his way in college.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
There you go that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I mean that' take away some of the edge. Yes,
one hundred, that'll take away some of the edge.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And I do I do wonder like at what point
will it stop? Because college football is an expanding sport
and landscape. The ratings have continually gone up and the
media rights have continually gone up, like this thing's only
going to go up for the foreseeable future. And I
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just it's crazy to think what these guys are gonna
cost or what they'll be making, I guess, is the
other way of putting it, and that doesn't include like
what other marketing gets involved.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, it's it's gonna be wild and the.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Whole eligibility but with the settlement, as far as you know,
what the requirement's going to be is going to be
they have to play five years to play four. Are
they gonna get rid of the eligibility rules altogether where
guys can play for five six years?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I mean, think about that.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
There's a realistic scenario where the eligibility rules are going to.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Be challenged and this will almost.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Feel like a minor league to the NFL, and it
might feel like more comparable at some schools like Texas,
Ohio State, maybe Michigan, teams of deep pockets, Penn State,
I don't know how deep the pockets are, maybe Penn State, Georgia,
a Bama.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
These schools they might be able to We're not gonna.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Have a salary cap of you know, two hundred million,
at least not now. But if we're being real, Ohio
State's is over twenty last year and it's only gonna
build from there. Now we've got Kurt Signetti saying some
teams are paying forty they've got a roster of forty million.
Some are closer to you know, past that. So that's
so it's doubled in one year's time. Like that means
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it's gonna get there by twenty thirty if it keeps
growing at the rate it's growing.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Twelve million and twelve million, that's is that the most
that a quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Getting or on his on his way in?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But right now, I mean you you would presumably say
sixteen would be the most over four years, because I
believe Beck's getting four and Nico wanted four, and the
average supposedly based on a data opened Dandors, is over three.
So do the math on that, man, Like more guys
are getting that too. That's just a that's a freshman
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who's ever played before. Brock Perty's made two point eight
in his career. He went to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, Tank Nico Iomaliaba has made more during his time
at Tennessee than brock Purty has so far as the NFL.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
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Speaker 2 (22:38):
And we open up the final hour of This Football
Friday with a special guest, a man you normally hear
on Wednesdays here on the show, but he is grazing
us with his presence here on this Football Friday, the
one and only Petros Papadakas. He is the co host
of the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear
on the Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports, Fox
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College Football Analysts, and our good pal here. You can
get him on X at the Old p Petro's good morning.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Good morning, Hello, good morning to everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Helloa bar good morning sir.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
That's on the great coverage last night.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Oh thanks man, thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
You know, we weren't able to carry it in LA
because of the Clipper game, but yeah, yeah, it's unfortunately
that means I had to actually do the first hour
of the draft on the show, which was fun. We
had a good time.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Petro's most importantly, how you feeling.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I'm okay, I'm fine. Thank you for asking, but I'm
doing better.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Some people are calling you names on on social media.
I didn't know that that was public Republican.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
No, No, I was misdiagnosed.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
But I'm right wait wait what hell? What happened?
Speaker 10 (23:48):
No, that I went to I had a bad rash
and I went to the doctor and they told me
I had shingles, and then I went uh. And then
a couple of days later I went back to the
doctor and the doctor was like the other doctor the
dermatologists was like, this isn't shingle. So I was like, Okay,
I guess I can go back outside again. So anyway, Yeah,
I'm healing. I'm doing better.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Wow, conflicting reports, what are you?
Speaker 10 (24:13):
You know, just like Urgent Care on Easter at eight o'clock.
You know, sometimes it's good to get a second opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Well did any of those picks yesterday? I need a
second opinion.
Speaker 10 (24:25):
I mean, you know, time will tell. As Bob Marley said,
you think you're in heaven, but you're really in hell.
But I gotta say, like usually, I mean ninety nine
percent of the time, I have no time for the
NFL Draft, which makes me very different from a lot
of people in the sports world. The event that it's
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become is mind boggling. I mean the fact that there's
two hundred and fifty thousand people or whatever.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
How many people were there, one hundred and fifty g's.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yeah, you know, I mean after the pack picked, they
all boned out. But it was pretty and that. But
that was really late and that's impressive. I mean just
to see it looked.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Like farm Aide. But there's no band.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
I mean that's the thing that really I know they
have performances and stuff, but that's the thing that really
blows my mind about the NFL draft because nothing happens
other than the fact that a guy runs around in
a suit or hugs Goodell, or there's a heartwarming moment
for whoever's announcing the pick, or some nostalgic name from
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the past or some guy and you're like, who's that
because I never saw him without a helmet on. Like
all that is going on. But it's really interesting because
I mean, it didn't used to be like this, or
I didn't feel like it used to be like this,
But I mean NFL coverage in twenty twenty five, or
at least maybe for the last fifteen twenty years, it's
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just become like a douche fest, right, it's a douchefest,
like pre half in post is a douchefest. Like I
gotta watch Peter Schrager, you know, I mean it's it's
you know, and I like Peter, but you know what
I'm saying, it's all these guys like trying to out
self important each other, you know, whether it's Rapapoor or
the rap sheet or schefter, you know, I mean, it's
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just these guys in different suits and sweatshirt combos.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Douche Ow what happened to the good old days with
Beino Cook?
Speaker 7 (26:29):
You know, right? You know he wasn't a douche. Now,
he was a drunk old white guy, but he wasn't
a doude.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
And but you know what I mean, Like when you
watch an NFL game or watch NFL Sunday, Yeah, there's
a lot of douchebaggery with the reporting, but at a
certain point it goes away and you watch the game
and that's what people are tuning in.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
For the product.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
It's amazing to me how popular the NFL Draft is
when all it literally is is the douche fest and
the bells and whist of the doucheri and it's it's
it's amazing how how popular the event is. I have
to say I watched the event last night for the
first time and uh in a long time, with a
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lot more interest for one reason, and that was the
same reason maybe a lot of other people were watching
is uh Shador wasn't getting drafted, and not like I
expected him to get drafted or didn't expect him to
get drafted. I mean I I I am not a
breaker down of tape when it comes to this stuff.
I've seen a lot of Chadure to have my opinions
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about him as a football analyst. But it's really interesting
because literally you had Joel Klatt, our colleague.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
And friend, who was angry.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
I mean, he was mad that Schadur didn't get picked Lewis,
the Lewis guy, Ritticks.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
He was pissed.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
Mel Kiper was livid to where they picked Jackson and
New York trades backhand to pick that Jackson Dart. They're
playing Jackson Dart highlights and mel Kiper is just talking
about Shador and like schnor Din get picked, you know,
And and that's if there's thirty two NFL teams that
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didn't pick him, that doesn't mean that he's not gonna
have a good career, that he's not gonna be a
player in the NFL and have an opportunity.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
But it's really interesting.
Speaker 10 (28:25):
I mean, Lewis Riddick sat there and said he could
have a better career than Tom Brady, he could have
a better career than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
And it's like you didn't say that, Yes he did.
You know he did.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
I'll play it for you and and you know that.
I mean, it just starts to get desperate. These guys
are trying to.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I don't know what benefit. What's the benefit of doing that.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
I guess you don't want to piss off Dion and
Dion you'd call Dion and say, I mean the same thing.
Where Like you just heard a Colin Coward clip about
how old Lebron is the one that you could feel
his presence out there. It's like that's the only person
that said that. Everybody else is said Lebron is slipping.
You know, well, what does Cowhard say that for? Because
Maverick Carter one of those guys gonna call him and say,
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good on you, Colin, We'll give you the next whatever.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
I mean, I get it. No, that's what it is.
Speaker 10 (29:09):
I mean, I get it, it's currency, but at a
certain point, it's like when every pundit is screaming and
whining for something and the NFL gms are rejecting it
pick after pick after pick. At a certain point it's
like what am I watching? You know, ESPN is sitting
here trying to make fetch happen and it's it's that
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made it interesting to me just to see how it
was playing out. And at the same I mean, and
I mean, we can have a conversation about it, unless
you guys want to change the topic, but it is
an interesting thing to me because you think about it
and whether you like Sho do as a player or not,
or whether you think what happened at Colorado was a
super remarkable sea change of college football or that they
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just did okay out running a lot of the expectations.
I mean, we could have an argument about that or not.
But I mean, if I'm an NFL franchise, I mean,
do you really how good is he to invite that in?
I mean, that's usually the weight, right, the balance of
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the scales of justice of football is you look at
a guy and you say, how good is he compared
to what we have to deal with if we pick him,
and in some instances it's a yes, you know, for
different guys. I mean, obviously Johnny Manziel is a great example.
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I mean, huge red flags all the way around, but
somebody was willing to deal with that to try to
develop him as a football player. Other guys for different reasons.
The guy at the guy from Inland Empire in Washington,
Jaden Daniels, I mean, his mom is with him every
step of the way, just like Lamar Jack, and some
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people would see that as a detriment. I know a
lot of people see that as a detriment. But those
franchises have said, no, no, no, we'll deal with that
whatever comes with that, And it's working out pretty well
for the Ravens with Lamar and for Jadeen Daniels.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
In d C.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
That's something that they said, Okay, this is all something
we've heard about. These are whispers that we have to
deal with this mom and the family in a different
kind of way. Okay, let's try to do it and
pull it off. And it seems to be working out,
so that part of it, you know, just that balance
of how good is this guy compared to how much.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Of a distraction he'll be.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
And if you bring in Shador and he's not playing,
somebody's gonna ask Deon about it. And you know, Dion
might criticize you your GM if he is playing and
not doing well, he might criticize the old line. He
might make headlines, you know a lot of that stuff.
A lot of these maybes, uh waight up with what
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Shador actually is as a football player, that that might
have kept him out of the first round.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
But but when you think about it, an NFL team
that brings him in and then some nightmare ensues, they'd
feel pretty stupid because everybody else might have seen it coming.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't know if you guys get the same feeling
as me. And this isn't apples to apples, but I
feel like some of the coverage is starting to remind
me a little bit of Brownie James.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Like it just again, I saw that on Twitter, you
know what I mean? Where if Phil tells you you're
not looking at what you're looking at. But but you know,
I mean, I I don't think that's fair to should
do herself well and.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He's deserved way better. I mean, they're both going to
be second round picks. But again, I don't want to
get caught up in the weeds here, but I'm just saying,
as far as the coverage of it, it does feel like, well,
you know, the guy who's the guy has nowhere close
to being the best player in the draft is the
most polarizing player in the draft, all because of a good.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
Amount of the pundits last night on both networks covering
the event, which have exclusive coverage. We're throwing an on
air temper tantrum over it. I mean, though, seriously, to
where that was the whole draft and that is I mean,
I think that speaks to your point. I mean, and
and a lot of people said last night in social media, sorry,
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ESPN's whole pr push.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Couldn't get this guy draft.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
And it's true though, I mean, and it just goes
to show, I mean, there's such a thing as media pressure,
and there's such a thing as kind of a general consensus.
But these guys are not going to be bullied into
picking somebody they don't want to pick before they have
to pick them. And the market in the NFL is
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the biggest meritocracy there is in the world. As far
as a player in and that whole person and what
it means to the franchise. These these things are gigantic
investments nowadays, and the value of it all is just rocketed,
and the market tells you what your value is. And
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I think that was a really hard lesson last night
for everybody who thinks that they can just go on
They have so much power just going on TV and
screaming into a camera about something they think is favorable
for them to say. Because of one reason or another,
the market in the NFL tells you what's what.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
And I do think that that was.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
It got to the point where it was just kind
of gross last night, where it's like, can this guy smile?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know?
Speaker 10 (34:45):
Is he that mad about Shador that he can't smile?
I mean, how angry are these guys that he's not
getting picked for one reason or another? And that was
really it probably shouldn't have been, but very entertaining for me,
you know, you.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Know what I've been trying to understand, and because there's
so much to be talked about and discussed about the draft,
but what I don't understand is is how like, Okay,
I get it's Dion and and I get that you know,
it's the capital and all that stuff that's connected to it.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I understand that. I just help me understand, Uh, why how.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Do you become that big of a storyline And we're
not even really discussing like nuts the nuts if you ask.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
Me, right, I mean, but that's Colorado football the last
couple of years too.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
So it's like you create a smoke screen of impact
and effect. Is that?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Is that what this really comes down to? Because I mean,
think about it. We're retiring jerseys, you know, we're up
for the Heisman, We're heading into the draft.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
We're talking top five.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Pick, and he has dominated the narrative and the storylines
of this entire draft, maybe outside of Travis.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Hunter, maybe even the entire college football season.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Yeah. No, I think you're right in a lot of ways.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
And you wonder how much of it is merited and
how much of it is just a media event, And
I mean it's probably sixty forty, you know, and it
is unfortunate because but you know, if it works, if
it bleeds, it leads, and Colorado football is getting ratings
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whether or not if they're mediocre or just a little
bit above mediocre, or how much they've improved all of
that is relative to how many people are watching. So
if the market, I mean, that's the flip side of
the coin. If the market's telling you everybody wants to
watch the dor Sanders or the circus that is Colorado,
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or the circus that's having a little bit more success
that in Colorado. If you're looking at year two last year,
which was a lot more impressive but still not good
enough to really challenge for the big twelfth title or
anything like that, the market dictated that too. People want
to watch, and it became a big topic. But I
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do think at a certain point it's a responsibility of
the networks to try to just water down the coverage.
You know what it reminds me a little bit of
LeVar is the Lonzo Ball thing, you know. I mean
Lonzo Ball got picked by the Lakers because and everybody's like, well,
you can't blame magic for that, it's just a local pressure.
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And it's like, well, people look back, not even like
five years later, which is usually the way to judge
a draft, but people look back like a year later,
and they were like, well, what about this dearon Fox?
What about this Jason Tatum? What the hell were you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Doing Petro's magic, said that his jersey was going up
in the rafters, was right next to the Taylor Swift
banner or something like that.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
See that was a media event too, right, Like that
was a total media event. The LeVar ball was going
on Colin Cowherd and fighting with that Leahy chick whatever
happened to her. Uh you know what I mean, Like
every day it was, Oh my god, Lvar said he
could beat Michael Jordan one on one. Oh, LaVar said
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he could win motorcross. Oh, LaVar said, you know, I
mean it just never stopped. LaVar could win La Mon's
uh and uh, it just kept going and going, and
it became a media event. Lonzo Ball got picked, and
then the dust kind of settled, and media people wondered
if the Lakers didn't kind of get bullied into that.
I mean, Magic Johnson's excuse was literally, I we had
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great waffle strawberry pancakes and Chino Hills, so I picked.
I mean it was amazing, it really was.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
We got good strawberries out in Chino.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
Right, and but that but that was a situation, you're
right about that. Wait right now, agricultural area.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
They got good strawberries out in China.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Really yeah, no doubt, very agricultural.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Not just Oxnard. They got them in.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
I played football with some good players from the Nard.
There you go, Nardcore, Kerry Colbert, Jacob Rogers, Chad Pearson, carry.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
You get over that Camerio grad. It's a whole different world.
Speaker 10 (39:21):
I remember Kerry Colbert tried to drive on my recruiting trip,
you know, because we were all I mean, on his
recruiting trip.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I was his host, and he was like, you sure,
maybe I should drive.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You know.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
We had a car full of idiots, and I was like, dude,
you're black, this is South Central I gotta drive.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
I had to tell him about you know, he was
from Oxnard.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
Petro a guy I mean back in the back of
the nineties in South central lav Army.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Come on, I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Petro is the guy that you were spoke very highly
of in your deal hold over on his recruiting, in
your dealings, in your dealings with him throughout the core
of calling games, Ashton Gent he ends up with the Raiders. Yeah,
And as the draft got closer, more and more people
were kind of echoing your sentiment throughout the course of it.
Great kid, great player, that's one that feels like it's
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gonna work at the next level.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Yeah, I mean, I love the player and I got
to see him a whole lot ever since his true
freshman year at Boise, and he had a lot of
wear and care last year. I mean, they gave him
so many carries and he was literally carrying the whole town,
the whole conference, the whole blue turf deal, all the
way to how far they got, which was maybe the
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greatest season in Boise history. But you have to look
at him in an interesting way. He was a slot guy.
You know, he grew up in Italy and stuff. You
heard the story because the military family, and he came
to Texas and he was a slot guy for a
little while, started playing running back when he.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Got to Boise.
Speaker 10 (40:57):
He didn't start his freshman and sophomore. Ye, I mean,
he played and you could tell he was good. But
there was a guy named George Holani who was a
running back from Servite, same place as Tetroa. McMillan and
Mason Graham who got picked last night. Survilled high school
in UH in Los Angeles, Orange County area and the
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Friars and yeah, and Uh it's it was. It was
interesting just to see kind of how that played out.
And uh, George Holani was their starter and Jentie kind
of kind of sort of spelled him. And it really
wasn't until like midway through last year and then and
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or midway through two years ago and last year where
it was like, Wow, this guy's a really special running back.
He's really hard to tackle. I mean, he's got so
many of the weird intangibles and and the great attitude
and and a lot of the physical gifts. But he
his will to not get tackled is amazing.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
He's jacked. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
And then there's two things too, Like that Cam scataboo
is like that too, right, that Arizona State white guy
that looks like a criminal. I mean, you could take
the sack. You can take the Sacramento out of the
small college back. I mean you could take the small
college back out of Sacramento.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
He can't take the Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And cam' scataboo does look like a guy who would
go to lock up in two weeks, have a cheer,
he'd have a tear drop tattoo.
Speaker 10 (42:23):
But he's getting sued for like breaking some guy's hip
on a on a golf cart.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
But like the thing about Cam Scattaboo is and he
might have a very good NFL career, I don't know.
And I loved him as a back, But if he
broke a tackle, which he often did, very difficult to
tackle one on one a lot like Genty, he goes
another two three yards past that point. If Genty breaks
your tackle, he can really scatter away from you accelerate quickly.
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And that was really the thing that set Genty apart,
aside from all the really special things he does in
the box as a back, it was the fact that
he could turn you know, what's a good twelve to
fifteen yard run for most backs, and he goes seventy.
He finds a way to keep it going. He has
a plan down the field, and that is really remarkable.
(43:17):
I mean you could see his long runs and just
how he keeps on going. And when you have a
game where you have twenty five thirty carries and you're
ripping off thirty forty yard runs, I mean that that
guy was a was a real battery powered animal last year.
And I can't wait to see what he does with
the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Well, get him on X at the Old p Petros Pavedicas,
the co host of the Petro Some Money Show, which
you can hear on the blowtorchs.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I was saying, I was saying earlier, Dude, dude, I mean,
I feel like there's the possibility he does if you
if you've talked all this about him, and if the
value is what people were trying to make it out
to be, he goes in the first round. So the
fact that he didn't go in the first round, would
you be surprised if he slipped out of the second half.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
I think everybody, all these guys are looking at each
other in the.
Speaker 10 (44:11):
NFL said no, you do it, You do it, you know,
I mean, Pete, you deal with like I mean, and
in many ways, like t Bow or like Kaepernick. You know,
in one way or the other. It's like you want
to invite the circus into your town. Whether it's right
or wrong to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
We don't want to, I mean, Petros, there's actually a
good chance he might get drafted while you guys are
on the air later, get him on at the olp.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
Hey scruts as funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
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Speaker 2 (44:59):
Lee just dropped some information on me that he does
this from time to time, where this was a he
Man spin off. Well, you find out more about Lee
that he just in the process of conversation, he just
kind of drops on you and you go, wait, what
Lee explained this song and what it means to you.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
Skeleton Warriors also a Saturday Morning cartoon that my old
man had created based off of the imaginary game I
would play with myself in the backyard called Skeleton Warriors
because he had done the code.
Speaker 12 (45:27):
In the Barbarian the live action show.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
So I was always on set. And you know that
is based off of you being in the backyard playing
with yourself.
Speaker 12 (45:34):
Yep, that's right, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, man, you were away at a pee wee herman.
Speaker 11 (45:45):
Skeleton Warriors looking up its great toy line semi successful
Saturday Morning cartoons.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
So a game video played in the backyard became a
TV show and a toy line. As a kid, Yes,
and you just thought to bring that up now out
of nowhere.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Barber was my my jam on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That wasn't your game wasn't written about you had a
show written about?
Speaker 6 (46:06):
Oh, no, I get it. That's that's pretty This is Lee.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
This is saying it was created by Gary Goddard.
Speaker 11 (46:12):
That's correct. Yeah, Gary Goddard and Robert Gary Landmark Entertainment.
Gary Goddard is a is a famous theme park designer.
Also did Captain Power. But yeah, my old man, you know,
my old man was the right hand man to uh
Landmark Entertainment, which produced and created Skeleton.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Orders, Skeleton war Look at my child out back playing
with hisself. Skeleton Warriors. Get that out of their hands?
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Sound not that?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
No, I can't get him. That last segment, like every
every part of Lee always makes me just laugh.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
That's a wild life, man, it is.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
But also just the creation of seeing Lee back in
the backyard.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
Oh what is skeleton bone?
Speaker 7 (47:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Yeah, only child imaginary skeleton bone. That explains it all
to me.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Pretty awesome, man. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you here.
Speaker 9 (47:30):
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been working with Lee. Never one time as he brought up,
(47:52):
Oh yeah, there was a cartoon on TV and toys
attached to the cartoon that was written about me playing
in my backyard.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
By myself with myself.
Speaker 12 (48:07):
Baby happens. Yeah, so, Prince light Star, baby.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
What what?
Speaker 12 (48:17):
That's the theme of the of the show, Prince light
Star versus Barry Dark.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
How much of the show was your creation?
Speaker 11 (48:24):
I was Prince Light Star and then I would fight.
I would fight skeleton warriors, and then they took it
from there. I would fight skeletons.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Why are you the light Star? Where'd you get this from?
I don't know what a kid would say, not recreated
the name Lee?
Speaker 12 (48:41):
Yeah Light Star?
Speaker 7 (48:42):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Are you out of breath?
Speaker 7 (48:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:45):
I guess so.
Speaker 11 (48:46):
Why I was running around in the hallways being Prince
White Star play skeleton warriors.
Speaker 12 (48:52):
Skeleton Warriors, They're still around you still fighting them?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
This explains everything. I'm so enlightened now Now I know
why Lee walks the way he walks, moves around the
way he moves around. He was prepared for that throat
from Brady.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
He was able to escape the Skeleton Warrior or whatever
and get away and catch the ball.
Speaker 13 (49:14):
Like it makes sense now, it makes sense. Like we
were like, oh, he must have been a pretty good
football player. No, you were in the backyard training for
all that time and they ended up making a true
story cartoon after you, Lee.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Man. Man, I'm looking up the Prince Light Star action figure.
It looks like Lee. I mean, he does have like
a drink in his.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
Hand, but.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
He looks like Lee. If Lee really wanted to be
a superhero, like.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Instead of the producer of two pros and a cup
of jokes, win a different direction.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Lee, You like they better cut you a check for this.
You got a toy line named after you?
Speaker 6 (49:54):
That's right.
Speaker 12 (49:54):
Yeah, you can still find these toys. They're they're huge collectibles.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
I was about to say how much they cost in
terms of collector's items.
Speaker 11 (50:02):
Uh, you know, I see him at Collector's stories here
and there. It's not like it's not going to break
your bank at all. It's fifty bucks?
Speaker 5 (50:09):
Which one you think is more? Which one you think
is more valuable? This guy right here or a Silverhawk?
Speaker 12 (50:19):
The silver Hawks might be super collectible because I'd never
heard of those before.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
Really.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
So the show is called Skeleton Warriors, is that right?
Speaker 12 (50:27):
That is correct? Ran for one season, I think, yeah,
one season nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Back in the day.
Speaker 12 (50:37):
Captain Power was another show they.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
Did, was maybe Captain Power.
Speaker 12 (50:41):
Yeah, Captain Power.
Speaker 11 (50:42):
That was like one where they had like the toy
line where you could uh interact with the TV. It
didn't really work that well, but like they would. They
would give you the gun that you could like shoot
at the TV and would interact.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I just sent you guys a picture of another of
this action figure and it looks like with the thing
on his face, it looks like after he fell in
New Orleans. I'm telled Lee, they owe you money, dude.
Speaker 12 (51:04):
Yeah, I was. I did do a lot of work
that I did not get paid for.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
It's unbelievable. You I didn't even know you was working.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (51:13):
I was doing like voice acting and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Oh God, so much money.
Speaker 12 (51:18):
I was a voice of Casper in Korea. For the
theme park ride.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
That wo you got bum stealing stuff out of the
back of your car and you're owed hundreds of thousands
of dollars. Hold on, do you speak Korean? Like?
Speaker 10 (51:32):
No?
Speaker 11 (51:32):
It was No, it was in English, and people in
Korean a lot. Most people in Greece speak English as well,
but in South Korea?
Speaker 4 (51:38):
What did you have to say?
Speaker 12 (51:40):
Follow me, I know the secret way back. Look out,
a train's coming. You know, one of those dark rides.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Whatever, Oh my gosh, you're oh my god, do it again?
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Do it again?
Speaker 12 (51:52):
Look out, a train's coming. Follow me, I know the
secret way back.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Can you.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Was that from Skeleton Warriors?
Speaker 12 (51:59):
No, it's Casper, the Friendly Ghost.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Well Casper and Korea the Korean Ghost. Yeah, he didn't
make the he didn't make the American cot. Give me
the Korean cut.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
By the way, you know how many people didn't make
it back?
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Do you know how many people are listening on the
iHeartRadio app a career right now? Damn that guy from.
Speaker 12 (52:20):
The liquor store, that's what I was.
Speaker 6 (52:27):
Who would have known? You got coop out out ranked
like totally trumped.
Speaker 12 (52:34):
He wears all this bin u repressed memories.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
And all this time you spend talking about garbage ass
movies you go to see with Todd and you are
in like well known stuff with action figures about yourself
that you could have been talking about this whole time.
Speaker 12 (52:53):
Well known as a strong term.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
But yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
It was.
Speaker 12 (52:56):
I thought it was pretty good. Skilled to wars Man
Saturday Morning Cartoon. I thought should have gone longer.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Hang god, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 12 (53:05):
All right, We'll still got the videotapes. We can put
them on later.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I guess that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (53:12):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (53:19):
Why would we be transitioning into other stuff so quick?
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh man, it's so stupid.
Speaker 12 (53:24):
This is sod.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
I'm perplexed that we're just now finding out about that.
Speaker 6 (53:28):
I'm blowing away here.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
How much does that?
Speaker 6 (53:32):
We heard the theme song One More Tame? It's the
theme song still around? Can we hear One More Tame?
Speaker 7 (53:37):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (53:37):
You know what you should do?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Redo the video of Lee catching that pass at the
Super Bowl to this to that song. Yeah, see if
you can do that. Oh snap, puts that double move
on that tichierity card. Oh snap, Brady throwing the ball
with a soop.
Speaker 7 (54:08):
Warriors.
Speaker 12 (54:11):
Here's the best part.
Speaker 7 (54:14):
Lightstar. He's got the power. I can't little.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Crin Prince Leleton Warrior, Prince Light Star himself was lead
to laugh this entire time. Skeleton Warriors. Amazing revelation to
find out here.
Speaker 5 (54:45):
Bad to the Bone Baby, back to the bone, the
Skeleton Warrior.
Speaker 6 (54:54):
That is a T shirt. Damn the Skeleton Warrior. Dad
to the Bone.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Do you have a T shirt?
Speaker 12 (55:02):
I got a bunch of T shirts.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
Man, they really screwed you out of a bunch of money.
Oh who's your agent?
Speaker 6 (55:08):
Might come back?
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Who knows?
Speaker 6 (55:09):
Oh, my god, to the bone. I'm blown away. I'm
gonna have a hard time focusing the rest of the show, man, like.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
I don't know how to talk to him now, Like
your majesty, my.
Speaker 14 (55:24):
Man was out in the back sitting. It actually explains
a lot. It explains a lot because I don't feel
like Lee lives in reality. So based on his childhood,
this big, long, fictitious cartoon, it now makes complete sense.
He's just never left that, you know, little kid who
(55:45):
was out in the backyard playing with his skeleton bone
by himself.
Speaker 12 (55:52):
No hold on, I had the sword and I was
fighting the Skeleton Warriors.
Speaker 8 (55:55):
Just to make things clear, whoa, oh, Lorena gets even
deeper easy now, Oh my gosh, wait.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
A second, there's a there's a trading card as well too,
from the clear.
Speaker 6 (56:10):
Yeah right, that's that.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Well, Lorena already put herself in.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
I tried to ignore that.
Speaker 6 (56:20):
That is amazingly, that is amazing.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
There's an actual trading card four Amazon right now you
can get and it's based off of Lee all right. Hey,
something you learn new every day here on the show.
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