June 13, 2025 • 39 mins
George Pickens is getting rave review in Dallas but just give it time before he gets a hot head. The topic roundup includes minicamp stories and wild tattoos. Plus, NFL owners are cheapskates when it comes to players health.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So I'll be taking you again all the way up
for the next couple of hours here toward till the
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end of the show here on FSR. But I did
notice this, and I think it's important to point this out.
Sometimes you got to point out the obvious, and I
wanted to point out the obvious for somebody in the
NFL because this is crucial, crucial to this story. So
today is Friday the thirteenth. Now I don't know exactly
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if Friday the thirteenth is still a thing. I don't
know if that's something that people look at and go,
oh my god, it's almost a full moon. It's Friday
the thirteenth, you know, Is this an indicator that there's
going to be some sort of a weird event that occurs, Like,
I don't even I don't know if that's still a thing.
It's like horoscopes. I used to be into horoscopes at
one point in my life. And then I looked down
at the fine print and it said for entertainment purposes only,
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and I realized, oh, that's a waste of time, like
this is a waste of time to look at this
to determine what my day looks like. And then you realize,
you know, the one for Pisces and cancer is the
same for Gemini. Just kind of twisted around the words
a little bit and you realize, probably all a load
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of crap. But the date is important. The day June
thirteenth is important, and it's important to point out because
June thirteenth is a ways away from the NFL regular season.
We got some time here, we got time. Yet for
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some reason, June thirteenth is important to the discussion because, well,
you know, you're trying to find the positives, you're trying
to find something you can feel good about when it
comes to one franchise, and that franchise is none other
than the Dallas Cowboys. Because I saw this thrown out
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there on social media earlier this week, and I'm not
trying to air anybody out who's doing the reporting on this,
but I do find it a little bizarre. There was
a tweet that was sent out that said the following
Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott went fifteen for nineteen with four
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touchdowns during today's practice. What are we doing, dude? Like,
what are we doing? Like really, like, what are we doing?
Why are we box scoring this? Why are we going
down this road? Why are we having discussions about what
Dak Prescott's statlite is Unless you're one of these degenerate
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flunkies who can't get enough of fantasy football, so you
got to do fantasy training camp football, which is a
whole nether level of degenerate. That's all. That's like the
guy who you know, his kid comes to him when
he's graduating, turns eighteen. He graduates, like, Dad, you know
anything he got for me? So I can? Yeah, I
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mean I would have loved to, but I played fantasy
training camp football back in the day and I lost
my ass. So I don't know what to tell you. Your
college savings, whatever I had for you, all that's gone.
But here we are June. It's June thirteenth, and we
are box scoring Dak Prescott's fifteen for nineteen with four
touchdowns at Cowboys practice. We're not even a training camp,
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we're not even an ox stard, and we're keeping score
of what Dak Prescott's doing. And it's not just a
Cowboys thing. This happens around the NFL. It's going to
continue to happen. It's a major pet peeve of mine,
but hey, people love the NFL. It's all good. Got you.
It's also important to point out that it's June thirteenth.
It's Friday the thirteenth, so you know, with the season
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being a ways away, that feels like a key detail
for one of the new arrivals in Dallas, and that
new arrival is George Pickens. But according to Dak Prescott,
anything that you've heard and anything that's been speculated about
when it comes to George Pickens, don't buy it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't think that's why you should ever really listen
to what somebody else says about somebody. I think you
should judge everyone for not judge, but find out for
yourself who they are and allow them to reveal them.
They're their character to you. The guy, he's been great,
he's been phenomenal as the guy that loves football, loves
his teammates. He's been excited every day that he's been here.
He's been early, so no concerns on the personal matters
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of GP and anything about it, just super excited that
he's on our team. He's he's one of us, and
he's a brother, and he's about continuing to grow and
make sure that we're putting the best out there. And
that's his approach.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Why don't we give it a little time, you know,
why don't we just give it, Give it just a
little bit of time. Please, for the love of Christ,
give it a little bit of time. George Pickens in
Pittsburgh was fined, I believe a little over two hundred
thousand dollars for varying degrees of not meeting team standards.
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Are this in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's got a pretty good track
record of knowing when to turn the page on a
disgruntled player or a disgruntled wide receiver. Pretty good track record.
It seemingly always turns out well for Pittsburgh. It doesn't
always turn out well for the other guy. So pretty
good track record. Kept a lot of things quiet and
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decided we're good here. We got to move on from
George Pickens. And that was in Pittsburgh, where they do
a really good job also of keeping things behind closed doors.
You're not gonna hear a whole lot about it. And
that was in Pittsburgh where George Pickens wasn't in a
contract year, so to speak. He's now gonna be in Dallas,
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which gets the most coverage maybe of any professional team
in sports from a national landscape. It's hard to find
anybody who gets more coverage in the Dallas Cowboys. He's
now in Dallas, and he needs to play well and
produce to get that big contract he wants. And it's
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June thirteenth, and we're saying, yeah, I don't believe any
of the stuff you hear. Come on, man, like, you
gotta let this thing play out a little bit, and
you gotta let it play out a little bit, because
when it has played out, we've seen the results. There
was a story I don't know if this is true.
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I don't know if this is one hundred percent accurate,
but there was a story that was throwing out there
that George Pickens showed up. First of all, the one
that he showed up late for the Christmas game. That's true,
I'd like that, you know, we believe that that's true.
There's also another story that he showed up like twenty
minutes before kickoff. He walks onto the field, or he
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walks into the building and he's eating a Twizzlers and
he says, my bad, there was traffic. Okay. Now I'm
more of a red vine red rope guy myself. Twizzlers
pretty overrated. Feels more like, feels a little bit too
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too gimmicky. If you ask me, like that's something you
would get into, you know, it would be at the
bottom of the Halloween bag when you get home. It's
like that, or you know, the Whoppers, the three pack
of Whoppers you got from some neighbor who's a cheap ass,
who's had him sitting around since their aunt died four
years ago. But the point is he's in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You can't escape any of this stuff. It's going to
be a story. Even people that don't have drama fall
into drama in Dallas. You can't escape any of it.
You got former Dallas players that are telling you, Yeah,
it's kind of weird. We're trying to work out, trying
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to get a lift in, trying to hang out in
the building, and they've got tours going on. We feel
like zoo animals. There's people walking around. George Pickens can't
get away with any of this stuff. It's a different
environment altogether. So You've got a lot of evidence here
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to suggest that this is going to go really, really poorly. A.
It's George Pickens. Nothing against the guy. He's phenomenal, he's fantastic,
but a little bit of a wild card, I think
we can say entertaining as hell, but a little bit
of a wild card. So you've got that. You've also
got the fact that the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted to move on,
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and they seem to make pretty good decisions when it
comes to wanting to move on, as we've laid out before.
And you've got the coverage of the Dallas Cowboys. None
of it matters what's happening on June thirteenth at all, whatsoever.
We're going to get to week four, Week five, Week six,
Ceedee Lamb is still going to be the number one receiver.
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He's going to be the number one target. Jake Ferguson's there.
You've got guys that have built a rapport with Dak Prescott.
You mean to tell me George Pickens in a contract year,
knowing what's on the line, generations of wealth potentially if
he plays well and plays up to his potential, You
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mean to tell me that same George Pickens isn't going
to have an outburst or two, isn't going to have
an issue or too with not getting the ball enough,
Like we really believe that, and Dak Prescott's do it
as and he's laying it out as well. Listen, look,
I mean, you know anything you hear, you can't really believe.
I could tell you my son is the most well
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behaved guy in the world, Like he is the best man.
He's the best right when he arrives to the park,
he's the best, excited, energetic, happy, loves being there, great kid.
An hour later, I want to call the SWAT team
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borderline violent, cranky, upset, hungry, tired, annoyed, sick of me.
Just give it a little bit of time. It's not
really about the arrival. It's about the departure. Okay, give
it a little bit of time with George Pickens when
you're covering the Cowboys. Give it a little bit of
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time before we start breaking down what Dack's stats are
in training camp. And give it a little bit of
time because it is Dallas, before we start just anointing
everybody is a Hey, it's a drama free team. It's not.
It never has been. And when you add all those
factors in surrounding George Pickens, something tells me there's going
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to be a dust up sooner rather than later. Two
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up here on FSR SO, a Friday tradition on this show,
here on this Football Friday, is that we like to
take a bunch of little stories that have been out
there maybe we haven't had a chance to touch on.
We like to round them all up. We do it
every single week. It's called this.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
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topic round up.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And away we go. Lead to lap Our, executive producer.
What are we starting with here on this Football Friday?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, there, Jonas, we could go around the league, and
how about we start here in Jacksonville, where Trevor Lawrence
has been seen playing with, you know, an arm sleeve.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
He had an opportunity to address that. Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, to think about it. I hadn't thrown since before Otia,
since December so or really yeah, December, So it was
about four months of not throwing. And that's like I've
never I don't know the last time. I couldn't tell
you last time. I didn't throw up for four months,
I guess four years ago when I got surgery. So
I think just going from that through. I started throwing
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a couple weeks before we started the off season program,
but then we jumped into practice in heavy volume, and
I think just over time. You know, obviously you got adjustin,
got to get in shape for that. So just a
little bit of soreness. The compression helps just relieve some
of that. But that's all it is, So nothing I'm
concerned about.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Was there any thought that maybe he got injured jumping
out of the painting in Ghostbusters? Too? Was there a
thought that maybe that's how Trevor Lawrence got injured? Also,
you know, for a division that has been ridiculed for
being uninteresting, maybe the worst division in football, the AFC South,
they're off to a hot start because now you've got
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Trevor Lawrence who's dealing with soreness. C. J. Stroud was
dealing with general soreness, Anthony Richardson's dealing with something. Is
any quarterback in that division healthy? Is this just like
an AFC South thing? Like every quarterback in the AFC
South dealing with some sort of a soreness? Then you
got cam Ward, who's the number one pick in the
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draft and gets less coverage and less discussion than a
fifth rounder in Shudor Sanders. Kind of a strange turn
for the AFC South there.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
You know Vigo the Carpathian from Ghostbusters too. Rock's quite
a nice little shoulder pad himself.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah he did. He was wearing shoulder pads in that.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Why the way is any a real historical figure? Is
that made up for the movie?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know, look at it. I think it's a real thing.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Well, no, I think it's fakeh They called him a sorcerer. Okay,
I don't think sorcerers are real things.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I've heard varying reports on that as to whether or
not it's it's real or fake. What else we got?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Well, and just you know, just while we're there in Jacksonville,
mister Travis Hunter, he's practicing on both sides of the
field yesterday for the first time. You know, the first
two two days he was either on offense or defense.
Yesterday he was doing both.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I mean, let's let's get this thing going. Like you're
if you're the Jaguars and you're trying to sell your team.
One of the more entertaining interesting things to watch this
year is Travis Hunter in the NFL. If you're the Jaguars,
figure out a way to get him out there as
often as possible. If the guy could return kicks, get
him out there to return kicks or punts. Just get
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him on the field, get the ball in his hand,
and let people watch the talent that is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And his Madden rating is only seventy six, but that's
kind of off, you know, typical for rookies.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But fans that are hoping for a.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Lot, can't you manipulate the Madden ratings?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well maybe typically with video games these days, they can
update as they go along, so his ratings might start
shooting up.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I don't know about how much manipulate it.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I haven't gotten a Madden game in years, but I
used to get him every year.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But yeah, listen, man, not my thing.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah ever, uh, jonas going around the league. Let's keep
it in the AFC South. How about this with the Colts.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We know Anthony Richards, he could he at least wait
till Lrena, you know, spitz in her spatoon.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah yeah, sorry Lreta, please there you go, thank you.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, we know obviously that Anthony Richardson is out indefinitely
with his injury issues.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I believe it's his shoulder.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Well, Shane Stiken took an opportunity to back the current quarterback,
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Very pleased for what we got right now. He's been
doing a hell of the job. Really smart football player.
I learned the offense very quickly, making really good decisions
out there through Ota, so obviously want to carry that
over to training camp. But he's done a really good job,
great command in the huddle, ultimate bro.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I mean, like, if you're Shane Steichen, you have to
hit your wagon to ANDW Jones, because he tried hitching
his wagon to Anthony Richardson and we've seen how that's
turned out. Not great. He's either not on the field,
or when he is on the field, he decides he
doesn't want to be on the field, he takes a break. So,
if you're Shane Steiken, if the Colts don't I mean,
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if they're not a playoff team, if there's not significant
growth for the organization, I'm assuming that it's going to
be the end of the road for Shane Steiken. And
who knows if he ever gets an opportunity again. You know,
Anthony Richardson had the issues early on, he tried to
rely on Gardner Minshew. So now if you're Shane steike
and you're looking at Daniel Jones going, dude, I'm just
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hoping I could depend on him, and maybe Daniel Jones
an approve it. Year goes on a heater and all
of a sudden, the Colts are a potential wildcard team
in the AFC, and it saves his gig, but he
doesn't really have much of a choice. He doesn't like
it feels like they've kind of told you what they
think of Anthony Richardson by going out and signing Daniel Jones.
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And then before you even get to training camp, Anthony
Richardson pops up with an injury. And so now Shane
Steikin's looking at Daniel Jones going, that's the guy that's
gonna either save my job or that's the guy who
is either is gonna potentially cost me a job because
I can't depend on the quarterback we drafted in the
top five. Seems pretty cut and dry for Shane Steikin.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
From the South to the East, how about this, how
about with the Jets. Jets quarterback Sauce Gardner became eligible
for contract extension this offseason. Obviously, he was the defensive
rookie of the Year in twenty twenty two. He made
back to back all Pro teams. Had a little bit
of a slip last season, but so did all the Jets.
But he's looking for a new deal. He's hopeful that
one gets done, but he said he just wanted to
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show up to Mini caamp to show my teammates and
my coaches how much I want to win.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I want to be part of a change in this organization.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I mean, even the Jets can't screw this up. This
feels this feels obvious. Get a deal done. They've never
done a deal with a first round pick after three years.
They've never you know, I just said, hey, listen, after
three years, we're going to give you a contract extension.
We'll give you the money you're looking for, and we're
going to get and pay you like the top of
the market. Stingley is the guy who reset the market
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at the cornerback position. Sauce Gardner has been fantastic. Another
Joe Douglas draft pick that seemingly looked like a pretty
good draft pick. But for some reason, Joe Douglas lost
his job and was doing draft night coverage with US
here and did a phenomenal job, and now he's with
the Philadelphia Eagles. I just if you're the Jets, you
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need to build around your own guys and start to
rid yourself of the narrative that surrounds your organization. The
Jets are looked at as a team that is going
to constantly screw it up. Woody Johnson's going to constantly
get in the way. He's going to constantly do something
to damage or hurt the potential of this team. You've
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got Sauce Gardner, He's shown he can play. He's a
dependable guy, no drama, no issues off the field. To
pay the guy, get it done and then move on
and hope that you can build around him and some
of these other young stars.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Keep it in the East.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
From New York Jets to the Miami Dolphins. Did you
know that the Dolphins have two Polynesian quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Really?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
To attack Offy Law and Zach Wilson and Toua was
just as surprised as you are. Yeah, if you might
remember that in twenty twenty, Zach Wilson won the Polynesian
College Football.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Player of the Year award.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You know he's from Hawaii, is Hawaiian ancestry. His dad
is half Polynesian. Zach Wilson's Polynesian. Jack Wilson is Polynesian.
Take a look at his dad and you'll see. But
you can't see. I suppose.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So we don't need to wait for like twenty three
and meter where you can spit in a tube and
send it in the mail and have somebody come back
and tell you like you're Lithuanian and you're like, what
do you mean? I was born in Guadalajara, Like what
are we talking about here? Zach Wilson's Polynesian.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yep, Well, I guess a quarter Polynesian at least. Uh, yeah,
that counts. Yeah, that does count. What do you try
to say it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Doesn't count quarter Polynesia.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'd say it counts.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And so does the NCAA apparently, or at least b why. Yeah, well,
you're right, he's in the he's in the Polynesian Football
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And so Tua was surprised to we didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Two we didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Now they have a little something to you know talk
about Apparently they do talk about him growing up in Hawaii,
where's where they went to high school, where his dad
went to high school, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They have a lot in common.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
By the way, Zach Wilson. I don't know if she
still does it, but Zach Wilson's mom used to have
a a wild Instagram account where she would just uh,
I think she went on a rant about hump Day
and just how she felt about hump Day in general.
And it was not u. I don't even know if
it's suitable for us to play, but it wasn't. I mean,
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it was like she wasn't being raunchy. She just was
simply pointing out, you know, what you shouldn't shouldn't do,
And so I don't know if that's still a thing.
But look, Zach Wilson, he got paid. He's going to
be the backup to Tua Tagovailoa, and maybe he'll get
his opportunity. And if you're the backup quarterback there, you
got to be on call because you never know when
Tua is going to go down with an injury. And
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maybe Zach Wilson will finally get his opportunity. In a
somewhat serviceable organization to prove that he can still play.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Jonas.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
How about this?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Matt Lafleur was asked about, you know, they're going to
be playing versus the Steelers. I believe sometime in November
week eight.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, we gate. I think October twenty fifth is when
Rogers versus the Packers is going down.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I know, I was trying to circle a game.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
I would be going to a Packers game this season
out in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Unfortunately it will be in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
But Matt Lafleur was asked about eventually playing against his
former future Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Take a listen me, so.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
That it'll be a great challenge for us. We all
know what type of player he is and how good
he is, and I'm sure he'll be telling everybody all
our signals. So we'll have to, you know, maybe play
that mind game with him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
All right, So, did Matt Lafloor and Aaron Rodgers have
a dicey relationship? Lead you're a Packers ball washer, do
did Rogers and Lafleur have any sort of an issue.
I don't recall them having any sort of dust up.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Or anything like that, right, Nothing, that was out of
out of usual.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Sometimes they kind of make light of sometimes where they
were yelling at each other for Matt Lafleur calling a timeout,
not trusting Aaron Rodgers, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I mean, obviously Rogers was in the league.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
For longer than I think Matt Lafleur even, but the
typical kind of coach quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I seem to remember Rogers having more at least open
or public dust ups with Mike McCarthy than he did
Matt Lafleur, like it seems. And maybe that's because they
were together longer, but it seems like the Matt Lafloor
Aaron Rodgers dynamic. And I don't even think. I don't
think Rogers is on bad terms with the Packers like
this doesn't. This doesn't And I know he didn't go
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to Minnesota, but even if he went to Minnesota, this
doesn't feel like when Brett Farv left. Like I just,
I don't know that people look at Rogers with any
sort of vitreo on Green Bay unless I'm just reading
it wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I wouldn't say vitriol.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
No, Definitely, it seemed like he wanted to leave more
than say, when Brett Farv wanted to leave.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Brett Farv did them dirty obviously.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
By going to Minnesota and kind of created a lot
of bad blood that way.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
But he was forced out. He wasn't.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
He didn't force his way out like Rogers seemingly did.
I think he did a good job with the pr
of making it seem like it was a mutual parting
of the ways, but it kind of was the same thing.
They were ready to move on from Rogers to go
to Jordan Love, and I think the fan base understood that.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I mean, he did say he was open to the
idea of retiring after a one day contract with the
you know, so there is a there is that. I mean,
if anybody's interested, Rogers is open to retiring as a
packer with a one day contract, and look, he's going
to go into the Packers Hall of Fame. Uh far
I had to wait what like five years until after
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he retired to be inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame.
I think Rogers goes in a year two years after
he's done, I don't think. I don't think it takes
that long. And I think he's been pretty positive about
how he feels about Green Bay and just the environment
in the atmosphere there. And I think, and we've said
(26:28):
it before this show, I think that's part of the
appeal going to Pittsburgh is he realizes I was just
I was just in a circus tent. There was a
lot of chaos, there was all the dysfunction. I want
to go to a place that's going to be more
resembling of what I had in Green Bay. And that's
why Pittsburgh makes all the sense in the world. I'm
called it two years after Rogers walks away, he's going
to be inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame. Put
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that Knox loss.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Dud.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's Jesus, is that a real spit? Soon? What else
we got?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Jonas, take a look at your phone.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I'm not sure if I sent this to you yesterday
or not, but Jason Kelsey big fan of an Eagles
new tattoo where he is.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Posing, I should say.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
With the nude in the nude, with this tattoo with
the the Eagles head covering his his downstairs.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Bathroom or serving as yeah, serving as.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Look.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm not I'm not one to judge. Tatto. Is that
his tattoo?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
No, it's okay, but he says he's a big fan
of it.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Look, I'm not one to judge tattoos. I've got two
tattoos and that's three too many. They're terrible, But that
seems less than ideal. That seems like one of those
ones you're gonna look back on years from now and go,
what the f man? If people are more open minded
to tattoos. Back in the day, you used to if
you worked at a restaurant, you would have to cover
up your tattoo. If you had any visible tatto twos,
(28:00):
it would have to like, you'd have to cover it all.
Now people just walk around in you know, business casual attire.
They've got a full sleeve. Nobody cares they've got tattoos
on the neck. Nobody cares. Like it's just not a
big deal anymore. It's not looked down upon. And I've
said this before. Uh, you know, the Cowboys do have
training camp and ox Stard right around the Oxnard area.
(28:21):
There's this place called Portwine, Mesa, a small little town
near near ox Stard, and there's a there used to
be a tattoo parlor. There was called Jimmy's Tattoos, and
it's where I got one of my tattoos done, and
I also got a piercing or a two piercings done
there Lebrett and a cartilage piercing. And I remember walking
into the US There's nothing cool about that. They was
(28:46):
still sort of terrible. It was terrible. But I remember
walking into too Jimmy's Tattoos and just asking them like, hey,
do you guys do any free tattoos? Because their tattoos
are expensive, like I think an hour. It used to
be like one hundred and twenty bucks an hour, and
if you're there for five six hours, you're told like
it's in upwards of a grand for even like a
(29:08):
low end just basic tattoo, just depending on how long
it takes. And I remember asking the guy Jimmy's Tattoos.
I was like, hey, do you guys do any free tattoos? Like, yeah,
the one over on the wall, and it was a
picture of OJ's mug shot. So if you wanted a
free tattoo, the only one they would offer for free
was OJ's mug shot. And at that point nobody had
done it yet. But now the guy's dead, maybe I
(29:28):
people look at it and go, you know a little
bit of a tribute to OJ. So I'll say this,
I think I'd rather have the OJ mugshot than Jason
Kelcey and the nude still with his elbow sleeves on,
but a Philadelphia Eagle head covering his cranks. That seems
a little.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Bizarre and more accurate. A quote from Jason Kelsey more
flattered than offended. It's a generous bird with a good
sized head.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, there you go. All right, So that'll conclude
this week's edition of the Top of Ground up here
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Show on IG Coming up next here. Apparently somebody in
the NFL really cares about their money. They really care
about their money so much so that they're willing to
(30:39):
risk it all. Find out why right here, on FSR.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 1 (30:54):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up top of next
hour about fifteen minutes from now. Gonna try and defend
somebody who got a little bit of criticism over something
that took place last night. Got a little bit of
a little bit of blowback, if you will, harmless innocent joke,
(31:18):
and you know, turned out poorly for somebody in the
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you never miss our very best Fox Sports Radio videos
on YouTube. So there's a constant theme or story in
the NFL that is just bizarre to me. I don't
get it. I legitimately don't understand it, and I don't
want to spend somebody else's money. Like I'm not trying to,
you know, pocket watch anybody or get in and you know,
(32:01):
try and criticize how anybody spent Like listen, man, however
you want to spend your money, that's your business. Spend away.
Like if you don't want to spend your money, that's fine. Listen.
I get my balls broken all the time for my
ability to not spend money. Right. I drive a truck
that's almost twenty years old. It's got like three hundred
and eighty five thousand miles on it. I mean, listen,
(32:24):
I wear sweatpants. What do you want from me? Like,
I don't know. It's just like, what are we doing here?
It's four forty seven in the morning out where we're working,
and I don't really you know, cars for me, it's
like whatever, it's dependable, it's easy, I trust it. I'm good.
I got a Tacoma, I'm good to go. We're fine.
So I never try and get in anybody's pocket or
spend their money. But then there's a level of cheapness
(32:48):
that must be discussed, right, because a lot of people
get criticized for how much they spend. Remember Vince Young,
the quarterback. There was a report that he spent like
five thousand dollars a week at cheesecake factory. Like I mean,
first of all, very easy to do. There's seven thousand
pages on the menu. Easy to do, all right, But
his spending habits got him a lot of criticism. And
(33:11):
then there's people that don't spend money that you go,
I don't know, I feel like you could splurge a
little bit from time to time, you know, maybe feel
like you could splurge every once in a while. The
NFL owners and their unwillingness to put in all grass
fields in their stadiums is mind boggling to me. And
(33:34):
that's all it's about is money. That's all this is.
It's a cost. And this got brought back up over
the past couple of days because there's the World Club
Cup Group stage soccer event. It's taking place at MetLife
Stadium this weekend, and the NFLPA, via their X account,
(33:57):
noticed it in a tweet and responded, you know, in
a pretty passive aggressive way. I mean, you know, why
wouldn't you This is something you've been demanding, this is
something you've been asking for for years and years and years,
and they just put looks nice dot dot dot hashtag
safer fields, and you can look at that and go, well, look,
(34:17):
I mean you got other things to worry about. But no, no, no,
just think about why this is not happening. All of
your employees, all of the people that help make your league,
the billions of dollars that it makes, they're all saying
the same thing. Hey, we need safer fields. We need
(34:39):
to all play on the same surface. It's got to
be natural, like, this is what we want, natural grass,
we don't want synthetics. And yet for some reason there's pushback. No,
well it's you know, it's the cost of it all.
You're not making enough money, but you're not making what
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would cost you more paying a player who goes down
with an injury, or paying a player who increases his
odds of maybe not getting injured because he's playing on
a better surface. It doesn't make sense on any level whatsoever.
And for some reason, Nah, listen, well, you know this
(35:20):
is and if you're the NFLPA and you're some of
these players, you're looking at it going so wait a second.
You can roll in the good stuff for a soccer event,
but we're the ones who play there eight to nine
games a year and you go on the cheap It
just it doesn't make sense. And you can say on
(35:43):
the surface, no pun intended. Well, the amount of money
it will cut. Dude, if you're a restaurant, If you
run a restaurant and you have the opportunity to put
in an oven or some appliance that's going to make
your job more efficient and make your food better, wouldn't
it behoove you to do that? Like, wouldn't it make
(36:05):
sense for you to do that and want to do that,
especially if it's going to increase production and get better results.
Wouldn't you want to do that even if it costs
you a little bit more. It's an invest you're reinvesting
into your product. You're really It's why when it doesn't
matter what job you have, whether you do construction, you
(36:26):
do radio, whatever, you're gonna want to get some equipment
to try and make your job better. If it's gonna
make your job easier, it might cost you a little
bit more upfront, but if it's gonna bring back returns
and bring back results in the back end, why wouldn't
you do it? And for some reason, the NFL owners
are like Yeah, I don't know. Pretty expensive, pretty pricey stuff. No,
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what's expensive is a player's career going down the drain
after you invested a certain amount of money in him
because you didn't look after the field, especially MetLife, which
has gotten a bad rap for years. Remember the good
old days when the Giants and Jets played at a
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stadium and the only thing we were worried about is
where Jimmy Hoffa's body was buried. Remember the good old days.
Remember the meadowlands. Now they've got met Life and they
can roll out the good stuff for the soccer event.
But for the football teams that play there, yeah, it's
pretty expensive. I just don't I can understand. Well, this
(37:38):
is why they're billionaires. This is why they're millionaires because
they're really good with their money. Okay, I get all that.
And they're better with their money than we are, and
that's why they're in the position that they are. And
I understand, well, if you can, if you can save
a buck here or there, but at a certain point,
it's not about the money you're spending. It's about the
money you're investing, and you investing back into your product
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to get better results and to get better results from
your employees. Your employees are gonna be happier. I can
remember working at at a desk job, a sales job,
an over the phone sales job, and I swear to
God this is a true story. I swear to God
(38:22):
on this, and people that worked at that place with
me know what I'm talking about. The air conditioner broke
and instead of getting the air conditioner fixed in the
building in the middle of summer when we are sweating
our balls off, what they did was say, hey, here's
(38:43):
a perk. Anybody that reaches five thousand dollars in sales
before noon, you can wear shorts tomorrow. Like looking around
and going wait, what, Like we're not gonna fix the
ac that's not the problem. But if you reach five
grand in sales before noon, you can come in in
(39:04):
cargo shorts tomorrow. What just to save a buck? And
guess what, it worked. Everybody sold their ass off. You
had people walking in and like throwback Corduroller shorts, pe
shorts from eighth grade.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It worked.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
So look, maybe the NFL's onto something, But at some
point it's okay to spend a little bit, especially if
you know, I don't know, maybe the employees will be
in a better mood or not tear their knees up.
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things around here with Brady Quinn out. We came up
(01:09):
with Black and Drack, obviously a play on words, me
being Dracula and LeVar being well black and Levar's not here,
He's got to catch a flight. So he will be
going to State College, as he mentioned before, and he's
going to be doing some things in State College, PA.
So I'll be taking you again all the way up
for the next couple of hours here toward till the
(01:30):
end of the show here on FSR. But I did
notice this, and I think it's important to point this out.
Sometimes you got to point out the obvious, and I
wanted to point out the obvious for somebody in the
NFL because this is crucial, crucial to this story. So
today is Friday the thirteenth. Now I don't know exactly
(01:52):
if Friday the thirteenth is still a thing. I don't
know if that's something that people look at and go,
oh my god, it's almost a full moon. It's Friday
the thirteenth, you know, Is this an indicator that there's
going to be some sort of a weird event that occurs, Like,
I don't even I don't know if that's still a thing.
It's like horoscopes. I used to be into horoscopes at
one point in my life. And then I looked down
at the fine print and it said for entertainment purposes only,
(02:15):
and I realized, oh, that's a waste of time, like
this is a waste of time to look at this
to determine what my day looks like. And then you realize,
you know, the one for Pisces and cancer is the
same for Gemini. Just kind of twisted around the words
a little bit and you realize, probably all a load
(02:36):
of crap. But the date is important. The day June
thirteenth is important, and it's important to point out because
June thirteenth is a ways away from the NFL regular season.
We got some time here, we got time. Yet for
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some reason, June thirteenth is important to the discussion because, well,
you know, you're trying to find the positives, you're trying
to find something you can feel good about when it
comes to one franchise, and that franchise is none other
than the Dallas Cowboys. Because I saw this thrown out
(03:18):
there on social media earlier this week, and I'm not
trying to air anybody out who's doing the reporting on this,
but I do find it a little bizarre. There was
a tweet that was sent out that said the following
Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott went fifteen for nineteen with four
(03:39):
touchdowns during today's practice. What are we doing, dude? Like,
what are we doing? Like really, like, what are we doing?
Why are we box scoring this? Why are we going
down this road? Why are we having discussions about what
Dak Prescott's statlite is Unless you're one of these degenerate
(04:01):
flunkies who can't get enough of fantasy football, so you
got to do fantasy training camp football, which is a
whole nether level of degenerate. That's all. That's like the
guy who you know, his kid comes to him when
he's graduating, turns eighteen. He graduates, like, Dad, you know
anything he got for me? So I can? Yeah, I
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mean I would have loved to, but I played fantasy
training camp football back in the day and I lost
my ass. So I don't know what to tell you. Your
college savings, whatever I had for you, all that's gone.
But here we are June. It's June thirteenth, and we
are box scoring Dak Prescott's fifteen for nineteen with four
touchdowns at Cowboys practice. We're not even a training camp,
(04:45):
we're not even an ox stard, and we're keeping score
of what Dak Prescott's doing. And it's not just a
Cowboys thing. This happens around the NFL. It's going to
continue to happen. It's a major pet peeve of mine,
but hey, people love the NFL. It's all good. Got you.
It's also important to point out that it's June thirteenth.
It's Friday the thirteenth, so you know, with the season
(05:07):
being a ways away, that feels like a key detail
for one of the new arrivals in Dallas, and that
new arrival is George Pickens. But according to Dak Prescott,
anything that you've heard and anything that's been speculated about
when it comes to George Pickens, don't buy it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't think that's why you should ever really listen
to what somebody else says about somebody. I think you
should judge everyone for not judge, but find out for
yourself who they are and allow them to reveal them.
They're their character to you. The guy, he's been great,
he's been phenomenal as the guy that loves football, loves
his teammates. He's been excited every day that he's been here.
He's been early, so no concerns on the personal matters
(05:49):
of GP and anything about it, just super excited that
he's on our team. He's he's one of us, and
he's a brother, and he's about continuing to grow and
make sure that we're putting the best out there. And
that's his approach.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Why don't we give it a little time, you know,
why don't we just give it, Give it just a
little bit of time. Please, for the love of Christ,
give it a little bit of time. George Pickens in
Pittsburgh was fined, I believe a little over two hundred
thousand dollars for varying degrees of not meeting team standards.
(06:25):
Are this in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's got a pretty good track
record of knowing when to turn the page on a
disgruntled player or a disgruntled wide receiver. Pretty good track record.
It seemingly always turns out well for Pittsburgh. It doesn't
always turn out well for the other guy. So pretty
good track record. Kept a lot of things quiet and
(06:46):
decided we're good here. We got to move on from
George Pickens. And that was in Pittsburgh, where they do
a really good job also of keeping things behind closed doors.
You're not gonna hear a whole lot about it. And
that was in Pittsburgh where George Pickens wasn't in a
contract year, so to speak. He's now gonna be in Dallas,
(07:12):
which gets the most coverage maybe of any professional team
in sports from a national landscape. It's hard to find
anybody who gets more coverage in the Dallas Cowboys. He's
now in Dallas, and he needs to play well and
produce to get that big contract he wants. And it's
(07:33):
June thirteenth, and we're saying, yeah, I don't believe any
of the stuff you hear. Come on, man, like, you
gotta let this thing play out a little bit, and
you gotta let it play out a little bit, because
when it has played out, we've seen the results. There
was a story I don't know if this is true.
(07:54):
I don't know if this is one hundred percent accurate,
but there was a story that was throwing out there
that George Pickens showed up. First of all, the one
that he showed up late for the Christmas game. That's true,
I'd like that, you know, we believe that that's true.
There's also another story that he showed up like twenty
minutes before kickoff. He walks onto the field, or he
(08:17):
walks into the building and he's eating a Twizzlers and
he says, my bad, there was traffic. Okay. Now I'm
more of a red vine red rope guy myself. Twizzlers
pretty overrated. Feels more like, feels a little bit too
(08:38):
too gimmicky. If you ask me, like that's something you
would get into, you know, it would be at the
bottom of the Halloween bag when you get home. It's
like that, or you know, the Whoppers, the three pack
of Whoppers you got from some neighbor who's a cheap ass,
who's had him sitting around since their aunt died four
years ago. But the point is he's in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You can't escape any of this stuff. It's going to
be a story. Even people that don't have drama fall
into drama in Dallas. You can't escape any of it.
You got former Dallas players that are telling you, Yeah,
it's kind of weird. We're trying to work out, trying
(09:20):
to get a lift in, trying to hang out in
the building, and they've got tours going on. We feel
like zoo animals. There's people walking around. George Pickens can't
get away with any of this stuff. It's a different
environment altogether. So You've got a lot of evidence here
(09:41):
to suggest that this is going to go really, really poorly. A.
It's George Pickens. Nothing against the guy. He's phenomenal, he's fantastic,
but a little bit of a wild card, I think
we can say entertaining as hell, but a little bit
of a wild card. So you've got that. You've also
got the fact that the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted to move on,
(10:04):
and they seem to make pretty good decisions when it
comes to wanting to move on, as we've laid out before.
And you've got the coverage of the Dallas Cowboys. None
of it matters what's happening on June thirteenth at all, whatsoever.
We're going to get to week four, Week five, Week six,
Ceedee Lamb is still going to be the number one receiver.
(10:26):
He's going to be the number one target. Jake Ferguson's there.
You've got guys that have built a rapport with Dak Prescott.
You mean to tell me George Pickens in a contract year,
knowing what's on the line, generations of wealth potentially if
he plays well and plays up to his potential, You
(10:46):
mean to tell me that same George Pickens isn't going
to have an outburst or two, isn't going to have
an issue or too with not getting the ball enough,
Like we really believe that, and Dak Prescott's do it
as and he's laying it out as well. Listen, look,
I mean, you know anything you hear, you can't really believe.
I could tell you my son is the most well
(11:08):
behaved guy in the world, Like he is the best man.
He's the best right when he arrives to the park,
he's the best, excited, energetic, happy, loves being there, great kid.
An hour later, I want to call the SWAT team
(11:32):
borderline violent, cranky, upset, hungry, tired, annoyed, sick of me.
Just give it a little bit of time. It's not
really about the arrival. It's about the departure. Okay, give
it a little bit of time with George Pickens when
you're covering the Cowboys. Give it a little bit of
(11:52):
time before we start breaking down what Dack's stats are
in training camp. And give it a little bit of
time because it is Dallas, before we start just anointing
everybody is a Hey, it's a drama free team. It's not.
It never has been. And when you add all those
factors in surrounding George Pickens, something tells me there's going
(12:12):
to be a dust up sooner rather than later. Two
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Speaker 1 (12:57):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
No LeVar Arrington, no Brady Quinn, just Jonas Knox, by
the way, coming up a little over twenty minutes from now,
I mean apparently, Look, I don't want to spend anybody's money,
but apparently somebody really cares about their own money in
(13:20):
the NFL. We'll get into that for you again coming
up here on FSR SO, a Friday tradition on this show,
here on this Football Friday, is that we like to
take a bunch of little stories that have been out
there maybe we haven't had a chance to touch on.
We like to round them all up. We do it
every single week. It's called this.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, settle up, partners, tighten up their checks. It's the
topic round up.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And away we go. Lead to lap Our, executive producer.
What are we starting with here on this Football Friday?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, there, Jonas, we could go around the league, and
how about we start here in Jacksonville, where Trevor Lawrence
has been seen playing with, you know, an arm sleeve.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
He had an opportunity to address that. Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, to think about it. I hadn't thrown since before Otia,
since December so or really yeah, December, So it was
about four months of not throwing. And that's like I've
never I don't know the last time. I couldn't tell
you last time. I didn't throw up for four months,
I guess four years ago when I got surgery. So
I think just going from that through. I started throwing
(14:28):
a couple weeks before we started the off season program,
but then we jumped into practice in heavy volume, and
I think just over time. You know, obviously you got adjustin,
got to get in shape for that. So just a
little bit of soreness. The compression helps just relieve some
of that. But that's all it is, So nothing I'm
concerned about.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Was there any thought that maybe he got injured jumping
out of the painting in Ghostbusters? Too? Was there a
thought that maybe that's how Trevor Lawrence got injured? Also,
you know, for a division that has been ridiculed for
being uninteresting, maybe the worst division in football, the AFC South,
they're off to a hot start because now you've got
(15:07):
Trevor Lawrence who's dealing with soreness. C. J. Stroud was
dealing with general soreness, Anthony Richardson's dealing with something. Is
any quarterback in that division healthy? Is this just like
an AFC South thing? Like every quarterback in the AFC
South dealing with some sort of a soreness? Then you
got cam Ward, who's the number one pick in the
(15:28):
draft and gets less coverage and less discussion than a
fifth rounder in Shudor Sanders. Kind of a strange turn
for the AFC South there.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
You know Vigo the Carpathian from Ghostbusters too. Rock's quite
a nice little shoulder pad himself.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah he did. He was wearing shoulder pads in that.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Why the way is any a real historical figure? Is
that made up for the movie?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know, look at it. I think it's a real thing.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Well, no, I think it's fakeh They called him a sorcerer. Okay,
I don't think sorcerers are real things.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I've heard varying reports on that as to whether or
not it's it's real or fake. What else we got?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Well, and just you know, just while we're there in Jacksonville,
mister Travis Hunter, he's practicing on both sides of the
field yesterday for the first time. You know, the first
two two days he was either on offense or defense.
Yesterday he was doing both.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I mean, let's let's get this thing going. Like you're
if you're the Jaguars and you're trying to sell your team.
One of the more entertaining interesting things to watch this
year is Travis Hunter in the NFL. If you're the Jaguars,
figure out a way to get him out there as
often as possible. If the guy could return kicks, get
him out there to return kicks or punts. Just get
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him on the field, get the ball in his hand,
and let people watch the talent that is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And his Madden rating is only seventy six, but that's
kind of off, you know, typical for rookies.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But fans that are hoping for a.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Lot, can't you manipulate the Madden ratings?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well maybe typically with video games these days, they can
update as they go along, so his ratings might start
shooting up.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I don't know about how much manipulate it.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I haven't gotten a Madden game in years, but I
used to get him every year.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But yeah, listen, man, not my thing.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah ever, uh, jonas going around the league. Let's keep
it in the AFC South. How about this with the Colts.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We know Anthony Richards, he could he at least wait
till Lrena, you know, spitz in her spatoon.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah yeah, sorry Lreta, please there you go, thank you.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, we know obviously that Anthony Richardson is out indefinitely
with his injury issues.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I believe it's his shoulder.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Well, Shane Stiken took an opportunity to back the current quarterback,
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Very pleased for what we got right now. He's been
doing a hell of the job. Really smart football player.
I learned the offense very quickly, making really good decisions
out there through Ota, so obviously want to carry that
over to training camp. But he's done a really good job,
great command in the huddle, ultimate bro.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I mean, like, if you're Shane Steichen, you have to
hit your wagon to ANDW Jones, because he tried hitching
his wagon to Anthony Richardson and we've seen how that's
turned out. Not great. He's either not on the field,
or when he is on the field, he decides he
doesn't want to be on the field, he takes a break. So,
if you're Shane Steiken, if the Colts don't I mean,
(18:15):
if they're not a playoff team, if there's not significant
growth for the organization, I'm assuming that it's going to
be the end of the road for Shane Steiken. And
who knows if he ever gets an opportunity again. You know,
Anthony Richardson had the issues early on, he tried to
rely on Gardner Minshew. So now if you're Shane steike
and you're looking at Daniel Jones going, dude, I'm just
(18:37):
hoping I could depend on him, and maybe Daniel Jones
an approve it. Year goes on a heater and all
of a sudden, the Colts are a potential wildcard team
in the AFC, and it saves his gig, but he
doesn't really have much of a choice. He doesn't like
it feels like they've kind of told you what they
think of Anthony Richardson by going out and signing Daniel Jones.
(18:57):
And then before you even get to training camp, Anthony
Richardson pops up with an injury. And so now Shane
Steikin's looking at Daniel Jones going, that's the guy that's
gonna either save my job or that's the guy who
is either is gonna potentially cost me a job because
I can't depend on the quarterback we drafted in the
top five. Seems pretty cut and dry for Shane Steikin.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
From the South to the East, how about this, how
about with the Jets. Jets quarterback Sauce Gardner became eligible
for contract extension this offseason. Obviously, he was the defensive
rookie of the Year in twenty twenty two. He made
back to back all Pro teams. Had a little bit
of a slip last season, but so did all the Jets.
But he's looking for a new deal. He's hopeful that
one gets done, but he said he just wanted to
(19:39):
show up to Mini caamp to show my teammates and
my coaches how much I want to win.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I want to be part of a change in this organization.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I mean, even the Jets can't screw this up. This
feels this feels obvious. Get a deal done. They've never
done a deal with a first round pick after three years.
They've never you know, I just said, hey, listen, after
three years, we're going to give you a contract extension.
We'll give you the money you're looking for, and we're
going to get and pay you like the top of
the market. Stingley is the guy who reset the market
(20:10):
at the cornerback position. Sauce Gardner has been fantastic. Another
Joe Douglas draft pick that seemingly looked like a pretty
good draft pick. But for some reason, Joe Douglas lost
his job and was doing draft night coverage with US
here and did a phenomenal job, and now he's with
the Philadelphia Eagles. I just if you're the Jets, you
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need to build around your own guys and start to
rid yourself of the narrative that surrounds your organization. The
Jets are looked at as a team that is going
to constantly screw it up. Woody Johnson's going to constantly
get in the way. He's going to constantly do something
to damage or hurt the potential of this team. You've
(20:53):
got Sauce Gardner, He's shown he can play. He's a
dependable guy, no drama, no issues off the field. To
pay the guy, get it done and then move on
and hope that you can build around him and some
of these other young stars.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Keep it in the East.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
From New York Jets to the Miami Dolphins. Did you
know that the Dolphins have two Polynesian quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Really?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
To attack Offy Law and Zach Wilson and Toua was
just as surprised as you are. Yeah, if you might
remember that in twenty twenty, Zach Wilson won the Polynesian
College Football.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Player of the Year award.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You know he's from Hawaii, is Hawaiian ancestry. His dad
is half Polynesian. Zach Wilson's Polynesian. Jack Wilson is Polynesian.
Take a look at his dad and you'll see. But
you can't see. I suppose.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So we don't need to wait for like twenty three
and meter where you can spit in a tube and
send it in the mail and have somebody come back
and tell you like you're Lithuanian and you're like, what
do you mean? I was born in Guadalajara, Like what
are we talking about here? Zach Wilson's Polynesian.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yep, Well, I guess a quarter Polynesian at least. Uh, yeah,
that counts. Yeah, that does count. What do you try
to say it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Doesn't count quarter Polynesia.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'd say it counts.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And so does the NCAA apparently, or at least b why. Yeah, well,
you're right, he's in the he's in the Polynesian Football
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And so Tua was surprised to we didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Two we didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Now they have a little something to you know talk
about Apparently they do talk about him growing up in Hawaii,
where's where they went to high school, where his dad
went to high school, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They have a lot in common.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
By the way, Zach Wilson. I don't know if she
still does it, but Zach Wilson's mom used to have
a a wild Instagram account where she would just uh,
I think she went on a rant about hump Day
and just how she felt about hump Day in general.
And it was not u. I don't even know if
it's suitable for us to play, but it wasn't. I mean,
(22:51):
it was like she wasn't being raunchy. She just was
simply pointing out, you know, what you shouldn't shouldn't do,
And so I don't know if that's still a thing.
But look, Zach Wilson, he got paid. He's going to
be the backup to Tua Tagovailoa, and maybe he'll get
his opportunity. And if you're the backup quarterback there, you
got to be on call because you never know when
Tua is going to go down with an injury. And
(23:12):
maybe Zach Wilson will finally get his opportunity. In a
somewhat serviceable organization to prove that he can still play.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Jonas.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
How about this?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Matt Lafleur was asked about, you know, they're going to
be playing versus the Steelers. I believe sometime in November
week eight.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, we gate. I think October twenty fifth is when
Rogers versus the Packers is going down.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I know, I was trying to circle a game.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
I would be going to a Packers game this season
out in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Unfortunately it will be in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
But Matt Lafleur was asked about eventually playing against his
former future Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Take a listen me, so.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
That it'll be a great challenge for us. We all
know what type of player he is and how good
he is, and I'm sure he'll be telling everybody all
our signals. So we'll have to, you know, maybe play
that mind game with him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
All right, So, did Matt Lafloor and Aaron Rodgers have
a dicey relationship? Lead you're a Packers ball washer, do
did Rogers and Lafleur have any sort of an issue.
I don't recall them having any sort of dust up.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Or anything like that, right, Nothing, that was out of
out of usual.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Sometimes they kind of make light of sometimes where they
were yelling at each other for Matt Lafleur calling a timeout,
not trusting Aaron Rodgers, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I mean, obviously Rogers was in the league.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
For longer than I think Matt Lafleur even, but the
typical kind of coach quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I seem to remember Rogers having more at least open
or public dust ups with Mike McCarthy than he did
Matt Lafleur, like it seems. And maybe that's because they
were together longer, but it seems like the Matt Lafloor
Aaron Rodgers dynamic. And I don't even think. I don't
think Rogers is on bad terms with the Packers like
this doesn't. This doesn't And I know he didn't go
(25:02):
to Minnesota, but even if he went to Minnesota, this
doesn't feel like when Brett Farv left. Like I just,
I don't know that people look at Rogers with any
sort of vitreo on Green Bay unless I'm just reading
it wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I wouldn't say vitriol.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
No, Definitely, it seemed like he wanted to leave more
than say, when Brett Farv wanted to leave.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Brett Farv did them dirty obviously.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
By going to Minnesota and kind of created a lot
of bad blood that way.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
But he was forced out. He wasn't.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
He didn't force his way out like Rogers seemingly did.
I think he did a good job with the pr
of making it seem like it was a mutual parting
of the ways, but it kind of was the same thing.
They were ready to move on from Rogers to go
to Jordan Love, and I think the fan base understood that.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I mean, he did say he was open to the
idea of retiring after a one day contract with the
you know, so there is a there is that. I mean,
if anybody's interested, Rogers is open to retiring as a
packer with a one day contract, and look, he's going
to go into the Packers Hall of Fame. Uh far
I had to wait what like five years until after
(26:06):
he retired to be inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame.
I think Rogers goes in a year two years after
he's done, I don't think. I don't think it takes
that long. And I think he's been pretty positive about
how he feels about Green Bay and just the environment
in the atmosphere there. And I think, and we've said
(26:28):
it before this show, I think that's part of the
appeal going to Pittsburgh is he realizes I was just
I was just in a circus tent. There was a
lot of chaos, there was all the dysfunction. I want
to go to a place that's going to be more
resembling of what I had in Green Bay. And that's
why Pittsburgh makes all the sense in the world. I'm
called it two years after Rogers walks away, he's going
to be inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame. Put
(26:50):
that Knox loss.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Dud.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's Jesus, is that a real spit? Soon? What else
we got?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Jonas, take a look at your phone.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I'm not sure if I sent this to you yesterday
or not, but Jason Kelsey big fan of an Eagles
new tattoo where he is.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Posing, I should say.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
With the nude in the nude, with this tattoo with
the the Eagles head covering his his downstairs.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Bathroom or serving as yeah, serving as.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Look.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm not I'm not one to judge. Tatto. Is that
his tattoo?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
No, it's okay, but he says he's a big fan
of it.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Look, I'm not one to judge tattoos. I've got two
tattoos and that's three too many. They're terrible, But that
seems less than ideal. That seems like one of those
ones you're gonna look back on years from now and go,
what the f man? If people are more open minded
to tattoos. Back in the day, you used to if
you worked at a restaurant, you would have to cover
up your tattoo. If you had any visible tatto twos,
(28:00):
it would have to like, you'd have to cover it all.
Now people just walk around in you know, business casual attire.
They've got a full sleeve. Nobody cares they've got tattoos
on the neck. Nobody cares. Like it's just not a
big deal anymore. It's not looked down upon. And I've
said this before. Uh, you know, the Cowboys do have
training camp and ox Stard right around the Oxnard area.
(28:21):
There's this place called Portwine, Mesa, a small little town
near near ox Stard, and there's a there used to
be a tattoo parlor. There was called Jimmy's Tattoos, and
it's where I got one of my tattoos done, and
I also got a piercing or a two piercings done
there Lebrett and a cartilage piercing. And I remember walking
into the US There's nothing cool about that. They was
(28:46):
still sort of terrible. It was terrible. But I remember
walking into too Jimmy's Tattoos and just asking them like, hey,
do you guys do any free tattoos? Because their tattoos
are expensive, like I think an hour. It used to
be like one hundred and twenty bucks an hour, and
if you're there for five six hours, you're told like
it's in upwards of a grand for even like a
(29:08):
low end just basic tattoo, just depending on how long
it takes. And I remember asking the guy Jimmy's Tattoos.
I was like, hey, do you guys do any free tattoos? Like, yeah,
the one over on the wall, and it was a
picture of OJ's mug shot. So if you wanted a
free tattoo, the only one they would offer for free
was OJ's mug shot. And at that point nobody had
done it yet. But now the guy's dead, maybe I
(29:28):
people look at it and go, you know a little
bit of a tribute to OJ. So I'll say this,
I think I'd rather have the OJ mugshot than Jason
Kelcey and the nude still with his elbow sleeves on,
but a Philadelphia Eagle head covering his cranks. That seems
a little.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Bizarre and more accurate. A quote from Jason Kelsey more
flattered than offended. It's a generous bird with a good
sized head.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, there you go. All right, So that'll conclude
this week's edition of the Top of Ground up here
on Fox Sports Radio. Thank you to lead the lap,
and then you to Lorena and her spittoon for participating
this week. Jonas Knox here on Fox Sports Radio. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe here on FSR.
(30:17):
By the way, you can get me on Twitter or
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Show on IG Coming up next here. Apparently somebody in
the NFL really cares about their money. They really care
about their money so much so that they're willing to
(30:39):
risk it all. Find out why right here, on FSR.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 1 (30:54):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up top of next
hour about fifteen minutes from now. Gonna try and defend
somebody who got a little bit of criticism over something
that took place last night. Got a little bit of
a little bit of blowback, if you will, harmless innocent joke,
(31:18):
and you know, turned out poorly for somebody in the
world of sports. So we will defend that individual. Coming
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(31:39):
you never miss our very best Fox Sports Radio videos
on YouTube. So there's a constant theme or story in
the NFL that is just bizarre to me. I don't
get it. I legitimately don't understand it, and I don't
want to spend somebody else's money. Like I'm not trying to,
you know, pocket watch anybody or get in and you know,
(32:01):
try and criticize how anybody spent Like listen, man, however
you want to spend your money, that's your business. Spend away.
Like if you don't want to spend your money, that's fine. Listen.
I get my balls broken all the time for my
ability to not spend money. Right. I drive a truck
that's almost twenty years old. It's got like three hundred
and eighty five thousand miles on it. I mean, listen,
(32:24):
I wear sweatpants. What do you want from me? Like,
I don't know. It's just like, what are we doing here?
It's four forty seven in the morning out where we're working,
and I don't really you know, cars for me, it's
like whatever, it's dependable, it's easy, I trust it. I'm good.
I got a Tacoma, I'm good to go. We're fine.
So I never try and get in anybody's pocket or
spend their money. But then there's a level of cheapness
(32:48):
that must be discussed, right, because a lot of people
get criticized for how much they spend. Remember Vince Young,
the quarterback. There was a report that he spent like
five thousand dollars a week at cheesecake factory. Like I mean,
first of all, very easy to do. There's seven thousand
pages on the menu. Easy to do, all right, But
his spending habits got him a lot of criticism. And
(33:11):
then there's people that don't spend money that you go,
I don't know, I feel like you could splurge a
little bit from time to time, you know, maybe feel
like you could splurge every once in a while. The
NFL owners and their unwillingness to put in all grass
fields in their stadiums is mind boggling to me. And
(33:34):
that's all it's about is money. That's all this is.
It's a cost. And this got brought back up over
the past couple of days because there's the World Club
Cup Group stage soccer event. It's taking place at MetLife
Stadium this weekend, and the NFLPA, via their X account,
(33:57):
noticed it in a tweet and responded, you know, in
a pretty passive aggressive way. I mean, you know, why
wouldn't you This is something you've been demanding, this is
something you've been asking for for years and years and years,
and they just put looks nice dot dot dot hashtag
safer fields, and you can look at that and go, well, look,
(34:17):
I mean you got other things to worry about. But no, no, no,
just think about why this is not happening. All of
your employees, all of the people that help make your league,
the billions of dollars that it makes, they're all saying
the same thing. Hey, we need safer fields. We need
(34:39):
to all play on the same surface. It's got to
be natural, like, this is what we want, natural grass,
we don't want synthetics. And yet for some reason there's pushback. No,
well it's you know, it's the cost of it all.
You're not making enough money, but you're not making what
(35:00):
would cost you more paying a player who goes down
with an injury, or paying a player who increases his
odds of maybe not getting injured because he's playing on
a better surface. It doesn't make sense on any level whatsoever.
And for some reason, Nah, listen, well, you know this
(35:20):
is and if you're the NFLPA and you're some of
these players, you're looking at it going so wait a second.
You can roll in the good stuff for a soccer event,
but we're the ones who play there eight to nine
games a year and you go on the cheap It
just it doesn't make sense. And you can say on
(35:43):
the surface, no pun intended. Well, the amount of money
it will cut. Dude, if you're a restaurant, If you
run a restaurant and you have the opportunity to put
in an oven or some appliance that's going to make
your job more efficient and make your food better, wouldn't
it behoove you to do that? Like, wouldn't it make
(36:05):
sense for you to do that and want to do that,
especially if it's going to increase production and get better results.
Wouldn't you want to do that even if it costs
you a little bit more. It's an invest you're reinvesting
into your product. You're really It's why when it doesn't
matter what job you have, whether you do construction, you
(36:26):
do radio, whatever, you're gonna want to get some equipment
to try and make your job better. If it's gonna
make your job easier, it might cost you a little
bit more upfront, but if it's gonna bring back returns
and bring back results in the back end, why wouldn't
you do it? And for some reason, the NFL owners
are like Yeah, I don't know. Pretty expensive, pretty pricey stuff. No,
(36:53):
what's expensive is a player's career going down the drain
after you invested a certain amount of money in him
because you didn't look after the field, especially MetLife, which
has gotten a bad rap for years. Remember the good
old days when the Giants and Jets played at a
(37:14):
stadium and the only thing we were worried about is
where Jimmy Hoffa's body was buried. Remember the good old days.
Remember the meadowlands. Now they've got met Life and they
can roll out the good stuff for the soccer event.
But for the football teams that play there, yeah, it's
pretty expensive. I just don't I can understand. Well, this
(37:38):
is why they're billionaires. This is why they're millionaires because
they're really good with their money. Okay, I get all that.
And they're better with their money than we are, and
that's why they're in the position that they are. And
I understand, well, if you can, if you can save
a buck here or there, but at a certain point,
it's not about the money you're spending. It's about the
money you're investing, and you investing back into your product
(38:02):
to get better results and to get better results from
your employees. Your employees are gonna be happier. I can
remember working at at a desk job, a sales job,
an over the phone sales job, and I swear to
God this is a true story. I swear to God
(38:22):
on this, and people that worked at that place with
me know what I'm talking about. The air conditioner broke
and instead of getting the air conditioner fixed in the
building in the middle of summer when we are sweating
our balls off, what they did was say, hey, here's
(38:43):
a perk. Anybody that reaches five thousand dollars in sales
before noon, you can wear shorts tomorrow. Like looking around
and going wait, what, Like we're not gonna fix the
ac that's not the problem. But if you reach five
grand in sales before noon, you can come in in
(39:04):
cargo shorts tomorrow. What just to save a buck? And
guess what, it worked. Everybody sold their ass off. You
had people walking in and like throwback Corduroller shorts, pe
shorts from eighth grade.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It worked.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
So look, maybe the NFL's onto something, But at some
point it's okay to spend a little bit, especially if
you know, I don't know, maybe the employees will be
in a better mood or not tear their knees up.
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