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C&R debate whether Tyrese Haliburton is actually hurting the Pacers or not by suiting up injured for Game 6! Callers & the crew weigh-in. 'OLD-SCHOOL WHEN 50 HITS' uses Ken Burns' time machine to travel to New Jersey! What is your most precious memories of baseball? They celebrate the day baseball as we know it, was born, with callers from all over the country! Plus, there is conflicting comments about RINGS! 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
The iHeartRadio app by searching the FSR. Rings.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
We got to talk about rings. Do they matter or
do they not matter? Okay, because I'm hearing all sorts
of different things about rings, and who.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Can I ask?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Can I ask your girlfriend of six years? Seven years?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I mean, why would you say that right before a
big party? She hasn't be Yeah, she isn't be in
Vegas with me?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Like, can we.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Sorry I didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I've already made a few mistakes in Vegas, Dude, I
don't need to do that again. But no, of course
they matter in life. But do they matter in sports?
Because someone very prominent in the NBA said no. We
discussed that yesterday and then as of today, there's a
lot of other prominent peace well teammates of Lebron that

(01:02):
are saying they matter a lot. So we'll dive into that.
We'll talk about watches today if we have time. But
let's get into this now. Game six. Okay, see okay,
see up three games to two. It's a must watch. IOA, Sam,
you're watching, Danny G's got to be watching. He's our
resident NBA guru. You guys are tuning in right, one

(01:22):
hundred percent. And remember the Pacers don't lose very often
back to back.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
True.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
And you know Sam's a little jaded because he's so
he's so in that Caitlyn Clark zone that nothing really
compares to him. And she is bringing the fire. I'm
not seeing many people in the NBA bringing the fire
she's bringing. You watching, Sam, I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I would say, I'm looking at a picture of Kaitlyn
Clark singing shinado O'Connor.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Nothing compares to you, Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Compared to you. Mike and I Mike Lingar, the guy
who runs his place.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
We will be driving to Vegas while the game is on,
so we'll find it on the radio or on streaming,
and we will be listening to that game.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, it's exciting, that's fun. So yeah, we gotta be
tuned in because the Pacers need to win to push
a game seven. It's as simple as that. But the
side story is, well, was that Halliburton playing or not
was a game time decision? But Shams is saying that
he's probably gonna play. So it's a matter of, well,
we're we gonna take his word for it or not.

(02:22):
But we'll find out soon and we'll stay tuned with
Dan Byer, who's got your updates?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Thenyg's on the phones at eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. But the question is this, would you play?
Do you think he should play? If you're not one
hundred percent? Do you go out and do your best?
Do you sit it out? Does it matter because it's
the NBA Finals? I think it does. But I'll explain
because I've always lived by this theory again, Cavino Enrich

(02:49):
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Crceeve. I always
live by the theory of if I'm not feeling close
to one hundred percent, because especially at this age, why are.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You ever really one hundred percent?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Every right, But if you're not close to one hundred percent,
maybe you sit it out because you're not bringing your
best And then at that point, I mean, you're bad company.
Like all right, let's say you had a hot date.
But on that night you had a big pimple on
your nose. Are you going to feel that confident on
that date? And I know that's a lame example, but

(03:25):
that's just the example. Are you gonna feel your ultimate
confidence on that date? Are you gonna bring your ultimate best?
Maybe it's best to sit it out that night, and
then when you're feeling better, you bring it all the way,
you deliver, you show that you're the man, and you
leave a great impression. So in life sometimes I'm I'm
understanding if you sit it out because you're not feeling
that great, because sometimes you're just in your head because

(03:47):
you're not good company.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
I mean, your example, while ridiculous, is a good one
to Hey, hey.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
If it's a sore throw whatever the case may be,
you got got a bad haircut, who cares?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Whatever is making you feel like ass.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
If you've got to with the woman of your dreams
she finally said yeah, let's get a drink, and you got,
as you said, a big pimple right on the tip
of your nose.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Are you gonna bring your best? Especially if it's a
woman of your dreams, you want to take that chance
on that night. I want to see here when I'm
feeling my dopest, my sweetest, the closest to one hundred
percent that I am or that I can.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
But that isn't a little isn't that a little bit
of a pee type of move to say I'm gonna
sit it out because I don't because I'm not feeling
a hunt doze percent. I always assume this, especially in
the NFL, Danny, I feel like you back me up
because every week when the injury reports come out, if
a guy on my team who I know is a baller,
if he can't play, I'm assuming, like, yo, he can't

(04:40):
play because.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
These guys, you don't think they want to push it right.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
And the other thing about Hollie is that he is
a facilitator.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I love that word.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
And he's an assist minded guy. He wants to pass
the ball first.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, But is he really helping the team if he's
not one hundred percent? That's the question you need to
keep in mind. And that's my point in saying in life,
are you really helping yourself? If you're going out, if
you're not feeling that great, maybe it's best to sit
it out. However, these are extreme circumstances. This is the
NBA Finals. This is do word die. Your team's got
to win. I think you need to show up in

(05:14):
this big moment. But think about it. Could he be
hurting the team by playing at fifty sixty percent? We
don't know how hurt he is. And that's also a
tough decision. How many times in life where stakes aren't
as high, you sit there and you deliberate on, man,
should I go to work?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Should I not? Maybe I could push through. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Should I go to the gym? Should I not? Should
I go on this date? Should I not? Because you're
just not feeling that great? Those decisions are hard enough,
you know in life. Imagine how he must feel knowing
that if he pushes it too hard, he might permanently
injure himself. And it's not a guarantee. When you're an
investment nowadays, you're not just a basketball player showing heart.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
What about just emotionally lifting your team up the way
Willis Reed did for the name he limped out. He
wasn't the star of that game. A lot of people
don't know how that entire game played out.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Legendary moment, different era though, too. That's what we need
to keep in mind. Of course, we all want to
see how Lei Burton get out there. The old daniel
Lewis is going to fight. Everybody loves the old daniel
Lewis is gonna fight. It's a big surprise to everybody, like,
hell yeah, it is lifting. What is a different world
we live in now where I don't know, guys just
don't play with that same amount of recklessness and heart

(06:28):
that they used to because they can't. I'm not saying
because they don't want to. I'm saying because they can't
because of their career trajectory and how much is put
on them investment wise, So play or not.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I feel like, perception wise, and for the team that
he's a leader of, for a guy that was doing
the Reggie Miller chokes and bolt against the Knicks, for
the guy that's been making suit of Li Tres with
the media, he's the type of guy that just his
pure presence, like yo, I'm going to give it a go,
is a mare booster to Indiana. I feel like if
he sits out, which it doesn't seem like he will,

(07:03):
he's gonna give it a go. But if he sits
out tonight, I feel like, just like you're putting the
vibe out there that like it's over, Like Yo, he's.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Not even gonna give it a go. Season's over.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Give it to Okay, we all want him to play,
there's no doubt about it, and it looks like he is.
But based on this, we just posed a question. Is
it always the best idea? And you know, let me
bring up Kevin Durant. Look what happened to him when
he wanted to push it and show that he was
the man. And you know, I want to be moral

(07:36):
support and lift a team and spirit and show that
I got heart and do it. It set him back
with a major injury. So it's not always the greatest thing.
And like you said, going on that date, Rich, when
you're not feeling that good, maybe you don't bring your
best and maybe she thinks you're lame for it, and
you just see blocked yourself and your potential with that woman.
Maybe sometimes a little rest is okay, But again, NBA

(07:59):
Finals a much different story, especially a game six.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I can't imagine if you're a baller and competitor,
you're gonna want to be out there, especially with your
team that you've taken it this far. You're at game six,
is listen, there's only potentially one more game after this.
And I know you're saying you don't want to risk
major injury. But unless your damn leg is hanging off

(08:23):
or your your shoulders like dislocated, you can't shoot a
basketball unless something so dramatic is going on.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I think even perception wise wheel them out or something.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Just to get the theatrics going right the game's in Indiana,
like get the crowd amped up, like there he is,
he's playing. Daniel Larrus is gonna fight like you said,
this takes me back to grade school.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
In fact, Rich when you'd have a.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Little sore throat your mom would rub vipps, vics, vapo
rub on you.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I mean she rubbed it on me. I don't know
if your mom rubbed it on you.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now your mom rummed it on me, and she would say,
sona sna coulitoa, and she would give me some suecrets
or chloroseptic, you know, throw back Thursday sort of stuff.
Louden's Pine Brothers kis And you're like, I don't know
if I can go to school, and you sit it out.
By the time Price's right was on you realized at

(09:20):
that point that you probably could have went, and that
was the worst feeling ever. I mean, I love playing
hooky and sitting out, but you know, if you liked school.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Or if you had a game that day, or you.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Didn't want to miss gym class, or you know, you
wanted to see the hot girl in school, you did
feel bad or feel guilty for not showing up when
midway through the day you realize you probably could have.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
On the highest of levels.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Haliburton has to be feeling, man, if I don't go in,
I'm always gonna regret it.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
So that's probably why he's gonna push himself.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And the latest update Sham says he's probably gonna play,
but as far as I know, still a game decision
to see whether or not Daniel Luiso is gonna fight.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
They just I love that cove.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I I want to put it in perspective. Also, what
do we see every NFL season when a guy like
Joe Burrow or a guy like Lamar Jackson, or you know,
someone of that nature gets knocked out of the playoff
situation like ah, they'll be back next year, And we
often realize that's that's like lip service. That's like, that's

(10:31):
like someone saying, oh, you got pooped on.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Oh that's good luck. Oh it rained on your wedding day.
Oh that's just good luck.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Sometimes you just say things to make people feel better.
Indiana is a great team, but with the Knicks getting better,
with Boston still being the Celtics, it's not like this
given where oh the Pacers will be the team for
years to come. This might be Halliburton and Siakam and
these guys. Real chance, he wants a chance.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's a great point and you have to go all
out right. But is his sixty seventy percent better than
the next person's one hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
That's really the question here.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
And talk recently about those moments where those miraculous sick
games and people playing for something like there's always these moments.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
And for all you know, we're three hours away.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
From remember that game where Halliburton played hurt and he
facilitated as Danny said, and yo, Indiana, they took it
at game seven and that's how they won.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like this might be the store.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
He comes at lacing up his new Puma shoes. Everyone
gets all excited. It's a nice theatrical moment. It could
be a memorable moment saying that, am I.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Wrong by saying the in state, the in arena.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Broadcast team, the scoreboard, the special effects. You don't think
that they should play into this, like be like, yo,
he's gonna play. Let's make it grandiosa, Let's make this
a deal.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know, Oh, I don't think that's what we're sitting on,
what we're waiting for. And like I said, I'm on
the edge of my seat waiting for Dan Bayer to
have a sweet update for us on it, because that's
what we're discussing. Listen, he's most likely gonna play, but
is it at the detriment to his team? It's almost
like a you have to be unselfish here too. What
is really best someone else's one hundred percent or your

(12:12):
sixty seventy percent? And let me give you another example.
We mentioned Kevin Durant. What could happen if you overextend
yourself to try to be the hero? What about Nestor
Cortes last year? Nasty Nestor hadn't pitched in a month,
and what did he do? He said all the right
things and all the cool things, like, yo, man, if
the team needs me, I don't care if I permanently
hurt myself. I don't care if it's a career ending injury.

(12:34):
I want to win that ring with the Yankees. Put
me in there, I'll go all out. Dude, had him
pitched in a month. He goes out, He goes out
there and gets shelled. Freddie Freeman hits a Grand Slam
game over set the tone Game one, and the Dodgers
win the World Series.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
That's miserable.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So his his sixty percent set the team back.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You see what I mean?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like, I know we all want this heroic story, but
at least hear out the other side.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's not always the best decision.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Hey, of repeat after me just one time. Gibby, meet Freddy.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Gibby me Freddy.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
But you think about him, that that was that was
him being almost a little too selfless. I don't know
how you want to look at it, but at the
detriment of his team, someone else would have probably been
better off in that situation than Nestor, who was pitching
on all heart. Again, the intention was was was there?

(13:29):
But guess what his arm was not? Freddie Freeman teed off.
Fine guy.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
If Freddie Freeman was playing injured and he was almost
a detriment on defense. Remember true, So it goes both ways.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
But you know what, Yeah, if Freddy's if Freddy's too
much of a wuss, he's not taking that at bat
and he's like, I'm injured.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Guys, was him showing all that heart and saying all
the right things really worth it? That said that Tony
Yankees had no shot after that, and that could be
what Halliburton brings tonight, could be wishing for that at all.
And again that all is speculation on how hurt he
really is. We don't know, And it goes back to tolerance, right,

(14:08):
Sometimes you push through and other people stay home.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Everyone's different. We'll see how tough he is tonight.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, there's a quote from him. He says, it's the Finals.
I worked my whole life to get here. If I
can walk, I can play.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I like the attitude.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
But Anny, I mean, that's sort of what I was
thinking as far as like you play your whole life, Cavino.
It's there are so few people that get this opportunity,
the honor to play in the NBA, the MLB, the NFL.
If you are like on the borderline of can I
play or not? In the biggest game of your life.
What has Halliburton played in a bigger game than an

(14:43):
elimination NBA Finals Game six? You're right, unless he unless
he needs to be in a wheelchair, this guy's gonna try.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah. Let me make this clear too.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
On my behalf, I'm Cavino, that is Rich Danny g
sam Byer, everybody's hanging out. I want to make it
clear that I agree with you. I want him out there.
We all want him out there. We want to see
a great game six. We want to see some heroic
stuff happen tonight. We want to see him lace it up.
We want to see something, like you said, theatrical. But
I am just giving you other things to think about.

(15:12):
It's not always the best decisions. Sometimes it is best
to sit out, even though it's tough to sit it out.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I'll give you an example of our industry. Chick hern
back in the day, he was going for a record
of x amount of broadcasts in a row, and he
had laryngitis. It was so bad you could only make
out like every third word he was saying in the
first half of this Lakers game.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
It was bad.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
So in our business it would almost be like if
it was a show you guys really needed to do,
but you had laryngitis and it was hard to listen to.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
You gotta push it through, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
On a funny note, we have our big event tomorrow
from Vegas, right, hundreds of people showing up from all
over the country to party with us at CIRCA. We're
going to be doing it live here on Fox Sports
A pull side. It's gonna be great, and we're gonna
be boozing and schmoozing and broadcasting and shaking hands and
high fives. And Rich Davis here is losing his voice

(16:12):
as we speak. As we speak, you know, my em
to home.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and I'm like, guy, I've
got a broadcast. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
It if I have half a voice, if I could
even with her, I'm in right ready to go.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
So I just hope that he brings it.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I hope you I'll see a crappy effort because he's
trying too hard where he's you know, just not at
his best. What are you do in life based on that?
A game six? You gotta show up it's the NBA Finals.
That's clear if you can. But in life, if you're
not one hundred percent, do you show up or not?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I think a lot of times you sit him out
and then you wish you would have, like your price
is right, theory is?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I feel like that's life.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
So many times you're like, yeah, I'm tired, man, I'm
not going to go out tonight. Then your buddies all
have a great time. You're like, man, I really could
have gone out very much like you said. When you're
a kid eleven or am hit, you're watching Prices right,
you're playing Plinko with grandma, and you realize that the
reality is that was.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
The thing he played seven up and you played kickball,
and oh you missed that out on all the fun.
Oh man, dB, what are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Man?

Speaker 8 (17:29):
Well, I just want to draw a parallel. It's not exact,
but I'm curious in your guys thoughts because Halliburton is injured.
But it reminds me of the dilemma, say, like in
the Little League World Series, do you want your stud
pitcher who's probably seventeen years old to pitch in that
game before you get to the championship game, or do
you want him to pitch if you get to that

(17:50):
championship game, you want him to pitch in that one?
Because I think there's a good chance that Halliburton may
not be one hundred percent tonight. And if he's not
one hundred percent tonight and plays forty minutes, he's probably
not gonna be one hundred percent for game seven. But
if you didn't play him tonight, you have no guarantee
that there is a game seven, and so like it

(18:11):
may pay off if you held them out, we're able
to win. But it reminds me, you know that Little
League great where you can only have like sixty pitches,
or you know you can't you're at your pitch limit
for for youth baseball.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
And if you just when we play when we play
games on our show, when we play Last one Standing
and I save an answer and then give a wrong answer, I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Like, oh, yeah, yeah, do you use haliburd tonight?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I didn't sure a game seven.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
You would almost have to live by anything can happen
in a game seven because you just got to make
it there.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
I agree with Danny. I would, yeah, I would. I
would play him tonight and then whatever happens happens, but
you have to get there first.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And for the record, like I said, maybe uh, maybe
you're on vacation. Maybe you were hitting the head. Who
knows he's dealing with a right calf strain. That's really
what it is. And Jack is just finding out by
hearing you right now on the card.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I was in the ocean. I missed the whole thing,
all right. Well, here's why.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
In life though, in regular life, right not everyone's living
a Game six sort of life. But in regular life,
maybe sometimes it is best to sit out because when
you push too hard, maybe you're exposing yourself perhaps or
maybe you're making things worse.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Like we said, Nasty Nestor or KD. I got in
a car accident in the past year, and it was
right before a big meeting we had. Do you guys
remember that, Yeah, right before a big meeting. We left
a studio. I pulled out of the parking lot and
some JIBBRONI totaled my car and I was all shaken up,

(19:46):
like anyone else is after a car accident.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
But I was okay.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
However, I did have significant whiplash and I was sort
of dazed and confused as to what just happened. But
I know we had this big meeting with big clients
here at Fox Sports Radio, and Rich came and picked
me up. We went to this restaurant and had this
big meeting, and you know where I would have normally

(20:13):
brought my one hundred percent or anything close to one
hundred percent as I would have brought. I'm there at
like forty percent days like a dope, and all these
guys think I'm a dope. As a result, I should
have put you. I should have left you in the
blue tent. So like maybe like, yeah, I want to
show that. Yeah man, I'm still here and I want
to show that I'm I'm a team player.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
But did I really bring my best in that moment?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
The next time I saw those people and they're the best,
they were like, yeah, dude, we knew something was off.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Man.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Are you that is that the time you told the
sponsor about your idea for alcohol ice cubes?

Speaker 9 (20:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Like I was like so down, like a zombie. You know,
I wasn't myself. Maybe I should have sat it out.
I think there's sometimes in life where it's okay and
you just you want to push and you want to
do the right thing, but maybe do and the right
thing is actually the wrong thing. That's all I'm saying.
We all want to see Halliburton get out there, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I remember have you known that meeting?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
He was like, tire Rack, I mean, I love Ty.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
You thought I was an idiot, respectfully, of course, and
I am. But I mean they thought, like, what's up
with this guy? What's what's wrong with this guy?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I was there.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
We should have dropped we should have dropped Covino off
at a little uh.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And then and then you know what happened.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Rich.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm justifying that I just gotten that accident. I'm telling
everybody my sob story, Like, that's not the impression I
wanted to give. So think about it, and let's get
to some phone calls. We got Travis in La on
the Covino and Rich show Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yo, Travis, are you on your way to Vegas?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
What's going on buddy tomorrow morning?

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Short drive?

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Yeah? Nice?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Nice, awesome? So what are your thoughts?

Speaker 10 (21:52):
Man?

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Right?

Speaker 11 (21:54):
So, I almost like the topic too much because I
studied psychology in college and I agree with your side
of it. You know what I always think about I
think about bands on tour, like, what do they do
when they get in a fight with their girlfriend or
something like an hour before the show? Now you've got
to play songs that are sad, happy, all these things.
How are you supposed to do that?

Speaker 12 (22:14):
You know?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, dude, it's something that when you work in entertainment.
I guess you could say we loosely do that. It's
obvious we live real lives and there's ups and downs
all the time, right, your wife or girlfriend busting your chops,
your kids are paining in the ass. I think a
lot of people, not everybody, but a lot of people.
I can tell you straight up. I'm one of those

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guys that could usually compartmentalize, just like you have to
compartmentalize that word in order to say it compartment you
have to compartmentalize your life. And it's like that show
severance when I'm at work. Ah, you know, my daughter
being a teenage pain in the ass is sort of
forgotten in that moment, and I think this is sort

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of the escape, and that's how it works, like a logically,
at least for people like me.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
No, I mean he's right, though, I mean guys like
U Kam.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
You know, I've always thought that was such a quality
of yours, Like can you know what be going through
some real life terrible drama and he would just bring
it on the air.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Some people could check out some cample.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, some people give like you are, like the TV
show Severance, where other people a baseball player might be slumping,
you know, maybe guess his wife asked for a divorce.
You know, not everybody's like that. It's different for everybody.
With Zach came up with a great example. I mention,
if you're a rock star and you got to sing
love ballads on stage and the person you wrote that
song about you hate in the moment, Oh yeah, that's

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it's tough.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
But you know it's a job, it's a gig.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You can't you got you know, the show must go
on as the saying goes. But sometimes it's at the
detriment of your reputation of you. And we're hoping for Haliburt.
It's not of his team at this point, so it
looks like he's going to play. We'll keep you posted.
That's the latest report from Shams. The right camp strain
and you never know, if he pushes it could hurt

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it even more. We're still getting phone calls.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think, does anyone in OKC that's like, yeah, give
him tonight, I want to win at home game seven?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Or you think it's like no, no, let's win now.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
There's always some people that are like at home, the
NBA road celebrations stink compared to home.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And by the way, Richie, know what else I'm thinking about.
I'm thinking about how generationally it is a little different.
There's some generations that want to always push through and
push through and push through, and then there's other generations.
And I'm not calling people out that just don't push
through his heart, you know. So it's case by case.
Jesse in Indiana. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 11 (24:40):
Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
What's up?

Speaker 11 (24:43):
I just so my personal opinion on this is I
think Aliburton should play, yeah, but I don't think he
should start.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
I think McConnell.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
Should start over him playing limited minutes, you know, when
he's randy, when he's.

Speaker 13 (24:57):
Feeling it for Carlisle. Put him in when.

Speaker 10 (24:59):
He's hey, put McConnell back again.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Hey, You ever think is strategy too that happens in sports?
Like maybe he's all right and it's just messing with
OKC for them to think that he is hurt and
then he comes out and lights it up.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, dude, I've thought about, like even strategies like he
was insinuating, what if you don't start him and what
if what if the Pacers are winning by eight in
the you know, first quarter and when you know, double
digit lead.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
At halftime, you could really play it safe.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I've always thought that with baseball, and I know people
in baseball say pitchers have such a routine, But let
me give you the example up. Let's say the Tigers
are in a playoff game and they have scooball ready
to start it. Does Tigers put up a six spot
in the top of the first inning. Don't you feel
like you want to be like, no, no, no, save him
for tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, I mean you think, but pitchers are so particular
about the route. Professional athletes are weird like that.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, but I'm just thinking maybe that's the solution. Maybe
you don't start them and you see how things go.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
You know, it really is.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I mean Niners, the Niners have taken that approach in
the past with McCaffrey, where it's like, yeah, let's go
light until we see if we really need him in
this matchup?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do we have Jesse in Indiana? Jesse, thank you so much, Travis.
I also want to thank you. Hope to see you
in Vegas. Now we'll get to the rest of your
phone calls. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Next
and we're gonna talk rings. Do they matter or not?
An old school in fifty hits. But let's get to
our good pal, the great Dan Byer.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Guys, you guys hit on the injury status with Tyres Halliburton.
Is that game time decision, but they think he's going
to go. Tonight tip off eight thirty Eastern Time between
the Thunder and the Pacers. Houston Rockets gave head coach
Emy Udoka a long term contract extension makes him one
of the highest paid head coaches in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
And now it is time for our tire rack play
of the day. This time the.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Dodgers handled the Padres in walkoff fashion Smith, which is
a fly.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Ball right center field, Tatis on.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
The wrong at the warning track.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Bet the walk it is gone, It's gone, he is
tun is over.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
They celebrate in front of the play. Oh walk up
home wrong crew, Will Smith. The Dodgers went in the
ninth four to three.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
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heard it there in the clip. I have a theory
that you will resist because you're a Yankees fan. And
I hate to say it because I'm not a Dodgers fan,

(27:55):
but you got to give it to him man when
they win and walk off fashion and that I love
LA song hits in the background, Dude, do.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't like that song?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
A song from Naked Gun sounds like a like a
campy eighties cheesy comedy song.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Covino would rather hear fat Yo. Yeah, yeah, sorry, Danny G.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Your Dodgers are so great. My Yankees and Riches Mets
were battling on who could suck the most the past
six games.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
But I will say though, when I when I hear
that I love La. You tell me that doesn't hit
the right way.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
No, you mean the team that beat the Yankees last year?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Screw them? So I prefer Old Blue Eyes Rich. That's
how it is, right. But we're Covino and Rich and
speaking of baseball. Look at the time, all school win
fifty hits, there's.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
A certain.

Speaker 9 (28:43):
Y.

Speaker 14 (28:43):
What we gonna do is go back back into time,
throwing it back for a Thursday. Old School went fifty hits.
That's fifty after CNR give you the time capsule topic
and we reminisce together.

Speaker 13 (28:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Word on the streets is today is an anniversary especial
day on this day in eighteen forty six. I think Mike,
who runs his place, he was probably around around that time.
I think he was there when it happened.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Mike, he was there.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I heard he was there on this day when fall
was invented. In what city was invented on this day?

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Hoboken, New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Hoboken, New New Jersey, where Covino and Rich met and
began this journey as a show together Dannie.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Right off of Washington Street in Hoboken, where all the
bars are by the way, Hoboken, New Jersey, the home
of old Blue Eyes and more bars per capita. Hoboken's
a really cool town right across the Hudson River from
New York City.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
And there it is.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
There's a there's a plaque and it says baseball started here.
I was gonna say, I've seen the plat Danny g
it's a historical monument.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Oh yeah, I remember the ken Burns documentary famously talking
about it, The.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Ken Burns documentary Classic. So we ask you Fox Sports
Radio Nation Throwback Thursday, Old School and fifty hits. This
is when we get everybody involved, the most inclusive show
on radio. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox and
at Kovin and Rich at Fox Sports Radio on this anniversary,
on this day, eighteen forty six, baseball was invented.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Baseball as we know it, Baseball as we know it?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Right, what are the most important moments in baseball to you?

Speaker 7 (30:35):
All right?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I have that, and I have a second part of
the question. I want to add.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I want to go your favorite baseball memory that you
think was just so iconic, that meant so much to you,
if baseball went at all the same without it, and
also your.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Favorite weird baseball saying er.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Lingo, because I'll give you one, Okay, I give you
I'm gonna give you two, all right. My favorite moment,
clearly as a Mets fan, gets by Buffler rounding third
is night and the Mets win the ball game Game six,
eighty six. I was in kindergarten. I was my son's age,
and I remember thinking like, is this the beginning a
lot of great things? And know the Mets haven't won since,
but eighty six, Game six gets by Buckner's my moment.

(31:15):
My favorite sayings in baseball little number, never understood that
little number. And I love how it's okay that we
just call guys studs. For some reason, you're left to
call other grown men studs.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
With Rice Harper's a stud, so hear from you guys.
He doesn't have a little number. That's probably why.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Again, greatest moments that are important to you, we chop
it up next right here on Cavino and Rich Fox
Sports Radio. If you want to hear the dirty things
I think people do at the Stanley Cup, listen to
the Bonus pod where I could be uncensored. If you
want to hear why there's something wrong with Rich perhaps, Yeah,

(31:58):
take a listen for sure, something wrong with this guy.
So I'm Cavino, that is Rich and we do this
every Thursday, old school when fifty hits. According to Iowa
Sam's math, one hundred and seventy nine years ago.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Rich baseball was.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Invented today, eighteen forty six on this day. So it
got us thinking about the most important moments to you
in baseball history. And there's historical moments like I'll give
you an example of that might not be one for me.
Look it's been around one hundred and eighty years almost,

(32:33):
but let's say in Seattle, Dan Byer could correct me. Well,
he's not a he's a Seattle Seahawks fan, not a
Mariners fan. But in Seattle, Rich they often say if
they didn't win in ninety five, they wouldn't have safe
co field, right, Yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Say, if King Griffey Junior didn't show up in the playoffs,
they wouldn't have kept that team in Seattle. Maybe getting
Junior saved baseball in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, maybe just getting him period, was that significant moment
for your square, right? Perhaps it was Jay Buner. I
don't know, it depends what you asked. But if they
didn't win in ninety five at the Yankees expense. Baseball
might not exist there anymore. So that's a historical moment
in Seattle history. And I'll give an obvious one. I
got to get it out of the way. Jackie Robinson

(33:17):
breaking the color barrier has to be one of the
most important things to ever happen in baseball, not only
for baseball, just for you know, the world that we
live in today. So eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
It doesn't have to be of historical significance. It could
be something like Ridge said, the Mets winning in eighty six.
Maybe your first baseball game, Yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever it

(33:39):
means to you.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I remember my first baseball game. My mother likes to
remind me that I should never be hard on my
kids if they like want to leave a game, because
you know, I'm a diehard baseball fan, and my mom
would always tell me that at the games, when everyone
else is cheering let's go Mets, I was cheering let's
go home. You're a little kid, you know, you don't
want to be sitting there in the heat. But you
know what oo, I watched it documentary recently, so I

(34:02):
got to shout out my pal Al you know Albert,
give me know my buddy, al al Spalding.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I think this is a big moment in sports history
that could go under the radar. Obviously ended up making
balls for a variety of sports, the NBA, but it
was back in the late eighteen hundreds that Spalding was
the guy that got every little baseball league in town
to use the same baseball. I don't know if people
know this before that it was almost like houseball, you

(34:30):
know when you played wiffleba as a kid, where it
was like neighborhood rules. It was neighborhood rules in real baseball.
Like some balls were tighter, some balls are bigger, smaller.
Spalding was the guy that made Yeah, but was this.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Spalding also the guy that made the glove like an
acceptable thing because he was so good. Anyone that wore
glove was made fun of, like you big wimp, you
wear a glove? What a weenie? You know, we played
bare handed. But because he was so good and people
respected him so much, it made it okay. Isn't that
the back something.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Like that was the original baseball.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
They started out as gloves and then the fingers on
the gloves just started getting bigger and bigger, like Mickey Mouse,
and then who decided to tie all the fingers of
the gloves together? See like I'm bringing the fun facts today.
You might have heard of them, the Rawlings Brothers. So
I mean, think of all the gloves you had as
a kid. It was the Rawlings Brothers that said, let's
make a pocket to the glove and connect the fingers.
And you could go nerdy old school like that, or

(35:24):
simply just say, hey, Freddie Freeman last year is my
favorite moment.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know, these are all important moments in baseball history,
but everybody has the ones that stand out to them.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Dan Byer, do you have one?

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Well, I was just gonna say, just on the heels
of what Rich was talking about. Like a house, baseball
ends up becoming uniformed. But isn't that what makes baseball
so great? With these stadiums where every NFL field is
the same, every NBA courts by and large is the same,
with the same dimensions, paintings and otherwise are different. But
isn't that what makes the Green Monster awesome? Or know

(36:00):
the right field hole in Fenway Park, Yeah, you know
the warehouse in Baltimore, Like all those things like, that's
something that I find great. I also love this chatter.
Come on, kid, come on now, come on, come on, yeah,
come on.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Baseball chatter, Yes, I love it. Sounds of the game absolutely.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
You know.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Maybe don't get it at a at a big league ballpark,
but you go to any legion tournament or high school,
you always have chatter.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Hey, Dann Bayer, Yes, good ie, good good.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I can't take your pits, kid. Come on now, come on,
come on kid.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
How about now you've seen them, you're hacking.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
I turned southern. By the way, I don't know if
you can tell, but when I did my chatter, it's
like I just you know, was born in Alabama.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
I was gonna say, rich the other sounds of the
game when we were little kids at the stadiums uh,
the announcers on transistor radios, you won't hear that anymore.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
No doubt. Man. And and by the.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Way, especially here in l a dB, speaking of the
old school chatter, Cavino and I always joke about how,
you know, when I know they still sell them, maybe
like the old timers buy them, but the guy that
sells things that stadium still talk like they're from the
nineteen twenties gets a program here, program Peanuts, popcorn program.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Old school.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's the cool part about baseball, Yeah, because it goes
so far back.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
There's so much history. So again the bam.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
You, I don't dip. But if I was playing first base,
I'd have my tongue in my bottom lip, you know, right,
doing that chatter right the best?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
All right, so we get you involved at eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. There's so much history when
it comes to baseball. And aside from Rob Parker's love
of baseball, here on Fox Sports Radio, we're one of
the only shows that really loved talking about baseball because
it pot on right now, I got my baseball, still
love baseball.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I got one.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Let's say, coming up in the lineup was a Cavino buyer,
Danny g.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
That sounds like hits.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
That sounds like here, it sounds like ron, sounds like
some ruds. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I love baseball chatter too. That's a good point, Dan,
But if baseball chatter is the best sports.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Chatter, you remember the first time you heard ducks in
a pond. They're like, oh, okay, ducks in a pond.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
They get it. Okay, Oh we want a pitcher, not
a belly itcher.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Oh we want to catcher, not a belly scratcher.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Oh we want to catcher.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Not by the way, the kids a really fun creative one.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Pitcher gets up.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
You know when pitchers would hit and literle league itself
like got runners on base Yo, help yourself, help yourself.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Oh so good.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mentioned Jackie Robinson, So I'm gonna get another one
out of the way. As a as a half fato local,
myself got to give props to the great Roberto Clemente
again being the first Hispanic player of Puerto Rican descent
to play professional baseball in nineteen fifty five. These are
all major moments that opened up the game to where

(38:53):
it is today.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Right, So again I have.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
To point that out, but it doesn't have to be
that historical because me personal, I remember the nineteen ninety
six World Series, right, the.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yankees were down, dude down.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
The Braves were dominant, and then Jim Larretz hits this
magical home run and turns the whole series around and
the Yankees win that series, and that sort of started
that dynasty for the New York Yankees. If you guys remember,
that was like a clear memory because before that was
a little kid. When they won in ninety six, when
that turnaround happened with Jim Larretz's home run, the Yankees

(39:32):
never looked back. They win the World Series, yet a
stumble in ninety seven, but then they go on that
major run. Dude, and looking back, I think we're far
enough removed to look back and say what they did
was insane. Yeah, that dynasty the Yankees had, winning three
in a row.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
That's unheard of.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Baseball's the hardest sport to repeat in. They did three
in a row. So Larret's he's in trouble, right, he's
a yeah. Well, I'm not saying he's the best, dude.
I'm saying he turned that whole series around. So let's
hear that. Can you know said Jim Larritz is his hero.
That's not what I said. I'm saying that whole turnaround
when they were looking like they didn't have a chance

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against the Atlanta Braves. So moments important moments to you
that made baseball is what it is.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Danny G. What's yours?

Speaker 5 (40:21):
How about Hank Aaron's historic seven hundred and fifteenth home run.
Now we weren't around, but we famously see the clip
over and over of those two fans running out to
pat him on his back in their seventies duds.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know what's so cool about that?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
As he was getting so much flack about breaking the
Babes record, right, like no one wanted him to be
the guy, and racial barriers and things like that. Redict
and then you see these two goofy white dudes, the
leather chack like seventy bell boy dollers, big collared seventies dudes.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
That is one of the most classic clips for sure.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I haven't seen it in a minute, but I love
that clip. So the ones that stand out to you.
Let's go to the phone to get everybody involved. Where
do you want to start?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Let's start with Baker in Illinois. Baker in Illinois.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
You're on the Cavino and Rich Show, the Anniversary of Baseball.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Hey man, what's up?

Speaker 7 (41:12):
So it's kind of a not a moment, but uh
so I'll try and make it quick. I grew up
listening to Braves games on my radio, and so I
was a fan. And then the Yankees knocked him out
of the World Series, so I decided I hate the Yankees.

(41:36):
And then and I jumped on the bag bandwagon right
at the right time in three, and then the Yankees
knocked the Red Sox out, but then four they won
and that was dude.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, for any Red Sox fan or Yankee hater, four
was insane because it goes back to the curse of
the Babe when they dished him after nineteen eighteen. Right, So,
and that's another question itself. Would baseball be the same?
Rich baseball would still exist, but would it be the
same if Babe Ruth wasn't traded to the Yankees?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I mean, would the NBA be what it was if
it wasn't for the Magic Johnson Larry Bird feud and
Michael Jordan coming And you can say that about most stems.
I think Babe, you know, was super important back then.
He was larger than life. He was a circus act.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
People would go see him to just hit the ball.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Why could argue, yeah, he one could argue though.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
He might be the most important figure in baseball to
make it what it is today, no doubt. So thank
you man. Uh yeah, two thousand and four. Major impact
for anybody in the New England area too. How about
all those old people that never sawt this other team win,

(42:53):
and you're just happy for Grandpa that you got to
see something. Scott and Missouri Important moments in baseball.

Speaker 15 (43:00):
November November second, twenty sixteen. Cubs winning the World Series unbelievable.
I mean, I'm growing up because saying in Chicago, I
moved to Springfild, Missouri, right in the middle of Cardinal Country.
I did take a crap for years, but finally the
Cubs get it. They win the World Series.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
You know, I always wonder if the Cubs fan had
a hangover after that, meaning like not from drinking, Like
like now what, because I there's that. There was such
a lovable charm about the Cubs. You finally win one,
and then I wonder, like, what does that feel like that?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
There are so many great stories similar to the four
Red Sox. You waited your whole life to see that.
The story of David Ross was big too. Remember he
got carried off the field his majestic home run. That
was huge for Chicago and we all got to witness
that absolutely in our lifetime.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
One of the greatest moments for sure. Thank you man.
Rob in Pennsylvania, you're on the Cavino and Rich Show.

Speaker 13 (43:57):
Hey guys, I love you I love your show.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Thanks man.

Speaker 13 (43:59):
Thanks the guy just stole my thunder was the Cubs
winning the World Series and eight years and something cool
was a baseball has one hundred and eight threads, so
he couldn't have matched up anything better.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
You know that's cool.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
And you know what you think too about like Steve
Bartman and all the stupid things that happened and the
Port Cubs.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
And you know, it's it's funny.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Danbyer brought up a great point and Cavi, you know,
I know you found the chatter some young some young
kid on social media that's learning baseball and he's like, yo,
when was someone gonna tell me all the stadiums were different?
And to me, there there's such a charm about That's
why will people do want to go see different basketball
games and football games? Why do you think everyone wants
to go see every Major League baseball stadium because they're

(44:42):
all different.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
You go to Milwaukee, they got the slide in left field.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
You go see the an Astros game and they got
the train in left field, or remember they used to
have that little center field little thing. You go to
Yankee Stadium, It's Yankee Stadium every every you go to
Wrigley Field. You see the the I on the wall.
It's there's something so special about each stadium, the dimensions,
the grass, everything. And by the way, we've been to

(45:07):
MLB experiences where I know Dan Byer enjoys this conversation.

Speaker 12 (45:11):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
They showed all the different types of grass at all
the stadiums, like in his precision, like the different types
of strains of grass that all the different stadiums use.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
That's an another thing.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
That's why I think golf appeals to me so much,
aside from just the sheer frustration of it, but it's
such a gorgeous setting in Major League Baseball with that
lush green field. If you have certain stuff mode absolutely
in San Francisco, this is kind of funny. I don't
know if anybody remembers this. The San Francisco Giants before well,

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they changed it. They used to have the old Navy
like splash landing area, right, But do you guys know
the story of Rusty, the fourteen foot mechanical mascot that
would come out if they hit a home run into
the splash landing.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
You gotta look this up. It is such a failure.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
They got rid of it, but it was this fourteen
foot mechanical baseball dude that would come gliding out, tipping
his hat out to the to the audience, and everyone
hated it so much that they eventually got rid of it.
But the railway that he would the track that he
would move on, is still there underneath that splash landing

(46:21):
at It's Oracle right at Oracle pack Bell Park, whatever
the heck it is. But look up the legend of
Rusty and it might trigger some memories because that story's
wild Rusty again. It goes with the signature look that
every stadium has, which is why we like these ballparks.
You're right, I love that originality that every city brings
to the game. Oh my god, this is so weird.

(46:42):
Oh honestly, I think it's kind of cool. But it
got such backlash and people were scared of it. Kids
hated it, and everyone's like the socks they got rid
of Rusty. I think it lasted like one season.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, co let me ask you, can you think of
I have one that's on my mind. Can you think
of something else that was so terrible they got rid
of it in.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
This Yeah, the flagpole in Houston. No, that was the weakest.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Do you remember that like really gross statue in Florida in.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Miami with the Flamingos.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
They had some artistic to something going on in the field.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, but you know, the signature look is I think
a part of the game that we all cherish, and
I think that's part of why we love it. Mike,
who runs this place, who's also getting ready for our
big Vegas adventure. He's bringing a bunch of prizes down
there for us, he says. Kirk Gibson's home run was
the historical moment for him. He said, you know, he
always admired the lou Gerrick speech too and what that

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meant for baseball, But Gibson's home run was just a
classic moment for him. Back to your phone calls on
the anniversary of Baseball invented on this day, eighteen forty six,
what were some of the most important historical moments in
the game or maybe just you personally, Tom and Florida.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
You're on the show.

Speaker 10 (48:03):
Hey, guys, you know, I'm a Braves fan since the
early seventies. I was eight years old when I hit
the home run. But that's not it. I've seen them
win the World Series in ninety five and twenty twenty one.
But that's not it. The powder Blue Braves, the disgusting
Braves of the late seventies and eighties. It couldn't win anything.
And then Sid Bream in nineteen ninety one beats the

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throw from the greatest player in the game at the time,
Barry Bonds. Braves win, Braves, win Braves, win from worse
to first. That to me was the moment that I'll
always cherish.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
I love that, and I love the excitement in your voice.
I love the story. And then my mind starts to
trail off because baseball means a lot to all of us, right,
we all grew up loving it. And it gets me
thinking this would be a controversial one, Rich, but you
don't think the steroid era, for as bad as it
was for baseball, brought so much excitement for baseball.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like Sosa and McGuire gup punching each other.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
That summer was unforgettable, dude, Am I right that any
network channel they would break into, they would break out
of whatever they were covering at the time, whether it
was the news or whatever was going on, and they
would show the at bat for McGuire or so.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So that's why it's so hypocritical to hold it against
these players because everybody was pumped about it, And if
you were a little kid, like I wasn't a little kid,
but if you I was in college in the mid nineties,
late nineties.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I graduated college in ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
So if you're a little kid and you're watching Sosa
and McGuire and guys like Rafael Paul Merrow just slugging away,
hitting bombs all the time, you don't think that was
important in their life and reeled them into the game. Like, yeah,
I get it detrimental to stats into the game and
the reputation, but if that's what pulled you in and
you've been a lifelong fan since, was it really that bad?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I don't know something to think about.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
I I thought of a couple other fun ones. Nolan
Ryan Robin.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Ventura historical moment, for sure, just like one.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Of those, like those are the fun moment you'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
It's like, uh, yeah, it's definitely a moment you'll never forget.
I don't know remember how important it was.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, I mean, if it's well, I mean you can
also throw it like Don Zimmer and Pedro. That fight
was legendary and just added to the Yankees Red Sox feud.
There's just all these memorable moments, Mike Piazza and Clemens
throwing the bat at him.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
There's so many rens will say magical moments.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Mike Piazza bringing life back to normal after nine to
eleven with that Bomby hit.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
That was a majestic moment.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I think about some of the manias, like Doc goodin
coming to the league, and of course Fernando Mania in
Southern California kind of healed what had happened with Chavez,
Ravine and Mexican Americans being moved out of there for
the stadium to be built, and a lot of them
didn't embrace the team until Fernando and all of that happened.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
For you know what Fernando Venezuela and what he meant
to the Latino community embracing baseball. You're right in Mexicans
embracing the Dodgers. Dude, that's insane the impact that he
had in this city with the Dodgers so important moments too.
Back to the calls.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Do you remember, Cavino, when you were a kid, you
told me you went to a game. Were you on
the West Coast. You went to an Angels game and
you were there when Reggie Jackson tried to kill the Queen.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, I'll never forget it. It was wild, dude.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Thank god for Lieutenant Fred Rubin, right.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I was a historical moment.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Thanks Frank, Jamie and Georgia. You're on the Cavino and
Rich Show. Historical or oh.

Speaker 10 (51:29):
My thunder just a second ago from Florida, but it
was Sid rings slide, but it was nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Oh yeah, yah ye.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Oh really okay, Jamie cleaning up his work, you know,
a Braves fans coming. I love going thro these phone
calls because then my mind wanders and I start thinking
of other stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
You think about Sid, you would think about Sid breams mustache.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
No, I'm thinking about like, there's other moments that maybe
not that historical, but we're seeing Buster Posey, you know,
on the big stage press conferences talking about Raphael Devers
and everything. Him getting mode over changed the game period
as we know it, you know what I mean. So
it's like, maybe not that historical, being that we've been

(52:13):
watching baseball one hundred and eighty years, but what happened
to him changed the game as we know it.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, I always think about that with your your Yankee pitcher,
Joba Chamberlain. I remember him being the first pitcher that
had a pitch count because he was coming off an
injury job. I felt like, yeah, yeah, the Joba rules.
And ever since that, I feel like that opened the
floodgates to every pitching coach putting counts on their.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Pitch Jaba rules, Joba Chamberain, significant Buster Posey, you know,
barreling down catchers. That changed everything historical moment. These are
things that we were able to witness in our lifetime,
which make him actually a little cooler. Tom and Ioway,
you're on the Coveno and Rich show.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
Hey, this is Tom. Hey.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
I tell you what.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
When I was a teenager to St.

Speaker 9 (52:55):
Louis to watch a game, and I'm a keV fan,
so I loved it. Again, Dave Dingwin hit a great
and slam off the Cardinals. That is pretty dad, Dave
Kingman and he almost did it out of the stadiums.
I said it was three and two first Stanning bass
I said, they throw them at fastball, and they did.
But of course my favorite time was when that comes
won the World Series. But see and Kingman had that

(53:16):
was before the he was he was king they called him,
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeoh, that guy hit like I only saw highlights. I
was a little too young for Kingman, but he was
a met when I was like a baby. Kingman was
known to hit like moonshots, like I don't know if
anyone else is synonymous as far as Homern hitters that
would just hit like rocket high bombs.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
On this day, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
The fact that they came up with and they always
say it in a Ken Burns documentary or when people
are talking about the magic of baseball, just how perfect
sixty feet six inches is.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Right, like, yeah, that makes it so great.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
You're ninety feet from the distance like this, Like if
it's a routine ground ball, you'll get him out. He'll
never beat out of routine ground ball. However, if you
bobble the ball a little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Safe, right, Like, all these things were so important to
the game as we know it now. Perfection, And you
mentioned Shoho Tani. The impact that we're gonna look back
on is insane. It's immense when you think about how
global he's made the game feel like it's always been there.

(54:24):
We talked about Clemente's and when he's meant to Latino
players and Hispanic players all over the globe. But the
international feel that baseball is really bringing with Shohay and
maybe even the decision rich of World Baseball Classic. One
day we might look back and be like that was
a historical moment because look how big the game is
now internationally.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Of course, right and by the way, as we talk
about baseball in our favorite moments, and you know, doing
a little reminiscing the other day, I think it was
yesterday was National Mascot Day, and I gotta say baseball
probably has the best mascots, right, Philly fanatic. I hate
to say it because I love to hate on Philly,
but the fanatic mister Met, mister redb. By the way,
doesn't he look like mister Mets creepy uncle.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, I think he is. He's got the mustache. Yeah,
I think it's you.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Know, Colorado the Dinosaur Digger. They got all these cool
mascots throughout the league. So baseball's bringing it as it
did one hundred and seventy nine years ago. And again
the evolution, like you said, Cavino guys were they were
like you, you gotta be tough, no helmets, no gloves, nothing,
and now like five year old kids have sliding gloves exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
So we'll wrap it up with your phone calls. The
most important important moments in baseball, Uh, Tony in Virginia,
you're on it.

Speaker 12 (55:33):
I think President Bush throwing out that first pitch at
Yankee Stadium in World Ferries right after ninety eleven. I
think that galvanized dude.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
That was imagic, bitch man.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It was definitely the best and most impactful. And then
I'd put the queen when she threw the screw ball,
screwball Queen right underneath it. But yeah, that was an
awesome moment.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
He brings up a great.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Point that made the I know it's ridiculous because it's
just a pitch, but it made America feel strong. And
imagine if George W. Bush would have threw like a
Baba booie first pitch in that moment.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
No, and I love that.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
No, but remember the story goes Jeeter tells him like,
don't bounce it, Like I love that story, and that
was told by George Bush, like that really happened. It's
a great call, it's a great story. It's a great
moment for sure. Let's talk to Pierce in Albny. Pierce,
you're on the show.

Speaker 16 (56:25):
All right, Well, the president throwing out the nine to
eleven one kind of Trump's me there. But I gotta
say as a Mets fan and you already talked to
Mike Piazza also saving America post nine to eleven. Yeah,
but Robin venture a Grand Slam single.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
That was a cool moment.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
That was a cool moment, absolutely, And you know, like
if you're a little kid watching too, in that moment,
that could have changed your life. That's the other thing
about it. Like we've seen a lot of great moments
at this stage, but for kids too, they stand out.
McKinney in Ohio, what's up, Danny?

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Oh, I was just gonna say, I was thinking of
some of the records that we've seen broken and I
was in the Bay Area in nineteen ninety one. How
about Ricky Henderson holding the bag over his head that we.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Just saw in fifty to fifty. It's never been done.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
It just dawned on me recently. I forgot.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I honestly, I forgot that we lost Ricky, Like it's
it's crazy to think he's gone crazy.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Uh, McKinney and Ohio, Oh dB, what's up buddy?

Speaker 8 (57:22):
Just along those same lines, remember when that guy from
Fresnel called in and started started the Reggie Jackson chant
at the A's game.

Speaker 17 (57:29):
Do you remember that? That's right, that guy that called
in from Fresno. Yes, what of great moments is that
Danny G's brother. I don't think Danny G My brother,
my brother started the chant.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
That guy in Fresne claimed it, Fresne.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
That's right, he started. That's right, man, historical moment. Thank you,
Dan McKinnie and Ohio. You're on the Cavino and Rich
show man.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
I love you guys, show man. I don't think I
would like it at first, but man, I don't. I
don't miss you.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (58:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Now I'm watching the two new Bald Eagles fish in
the in the Great Miami River while I'm walking with
my dog listening to you guys. My favorite my favorite
baseball moment has to do with Crosley Field and they're
Floatt outfield. I love that, the Pete Rose thing with

(58:27):
him and the nineteen seventy six World Series parade. I
know you goys, East Coast West coast, but in the
Midwest maybe that's where it's at.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Hey, dude, a lot of people haven't experienced the World
Series parade, but once you do, and if you do
it at the right time in your life, that's magical, man,
and you'll never forget it. My first one was that
I was able to go to as an adult quote
unquote adult was in ninety six, and I'll never forget it.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
A lot of guys, a lot of the eighty six
Mets never experienced a parade.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Cocaine exactly exactly. I want to thank you off for
your phone calls. Hit us up at Covino and Rich
we got to get to Dan Byer with an update.

Speaker 8 (59:05):
I do want to say baseball as well, and it
feels like it was in our era, but it's been
forever where cheating was not only allowed, but it was
captured of, whether it be corked bats, whether it be uh,
you know, many rubber balls in baseball bats, whether it
be fingernail files like all of that. Like it's you

(59:28):
don't see anybody nobody gets busted in the NBA for cheating, right, Yeah,
But I mean.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I always picture it was which necro brother had the
file in his back pocket.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
He threw it out, remember that.

Speaker 8 (59:37):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, it was one of them, and I've
forgot I don't want to accuse the other of doing it,
but I.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Think it was filmed. But again, it could be joking.

Speaker 8 (59:44):
And then all this, oh oh, this my fingernail file,
all this whole thing.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
There is some history made today in Major League Baseball
in Texas. It's your two pitch tackleon hits it high
in the air, deep right center.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Fee the only scar sears.

Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
At the wall.

Speaker 8 (01:00:02):
It's gone, watch and fly Chick Kagle his first pig
league home run. Maybe you get moments like that in
the NFL, like first touchdown pass or first touchdown catch,
but you don't get that necessarily in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Stunt.

Speaker 8 (01:00:17):
Yes, yes, he had another one later. Royal sweep the
Rangers today buy a score of four to one on
the Royals radio network, And I just want to congratulate
you guys on your twenty years. I will not be
in Vegas with you, but I will be here tomorrow.
I'll be on the show, but I know it's going
to be crazy. But congratulations on the two decades of
radio partnership and success.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
You believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
That's one hundred and twenty years in radio years, I
have not had one person ask me, are you going
to Vegas?

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
And I don't know if it's they don't want me
to go or they just knew that it probably was
never going to happen. But that one person questioned to
me and saying, oh, are you going to be making it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
And I just so you know, let me give you
an honest response there too. And I do this a lot.
I don't like putting pressure on people. I just don't,
you know, So for me personally, it's like, Hey, everybody's invited.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I don't like the pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
My assumption is that you have a little son, and
when we're away, you're you're You're the number one guy
they have always filling in and doing all the shows
around Fox Sports. And one of our coworkers has a
wedding on Saturday, so I just thought, it's a busy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Week about me, right, you know?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
But thank you, thank you Dan. Yeah, we couldn't do
this without you, so we appreciate it. Thank you, Dan, Byern,
thank you Fox Sports Radio Nation. The rest of your
feedback at Covino and Rich start thinking about rings Do
they matter or do they not? There's two conflicting stories
from two teammates. Do rings matter or not that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
When you ask your rings matter or not, historically people
say that's how you remember your champion chips, your rings.
And just the other day Lebron we talked about it.
He's like, yo, rings don't matter, and we goofed on
him a little bit. But a day later, Lakers get
sold and the first thing Luca says his teammate, the
first thing he says is all right, sweet, this is great.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Now, let's go win some rings.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
He says, he's super pumped about the Lakers sale and
let's go win some rings now. So it's like his
own teammate, you have conflicting views on the importance of
rings on the team. It's so weird to see this conflict.
And on the same day, Rich Yeah, Danny g. Sam
Kelsey is quoted today that he's only interested in Super

(01:02:30):
Bowl rings, like his whole purpose in coming back is
winning a ring. He wants number four because that solidifies
your legacy in a game of wins and losses and championship.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Feels like two different thoughts, though, because Lebron was pointing
out that there's some NBA players that he really respects
and thinks are greats and legends, despite the fact they
never want a ring. I don't think he's gonna be
saying I don't care what happens this season. Hopefully he's
still gonna be saying the same thing. Luca just said,
let's go win one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I'm not ever gonna deny the heart of a Lebron James.
Who am I some JABRONI in the studio talking about him.
I get it, I'm a fan, but it doesn't make sense.
It just doesn't. It just caters to his current narrative
because he's not gonna have as many rings as Jordan
most likely, so he's trying to downplay the importance.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
That's honestly what I take out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah, you can still be a really great player without one,
but you're not held in that same company. And Charles
Barkley's always that example, or Dan Reno's always the same.
People like really great players, but greatness is also measured
in how many championships you won, so I think it
always matters. So on the very next day, that's what's
ironic about it, Where Luca gets the news that the

(01:03:45):
team was sold in its valued at ten million dollars
or whatever. I'm pumped. Let's go win some rings. That
just sounds so odd. So do they matter or not?
They absolutely matter? Is there any debate? Sure you could
be great, but you even greater with a ring. I mean,
there's no question that they matter. But in what context?

(01:04:07):
You have to point out what Lebron was saying? Now,
I get you, and some other people are gonna say, well,
this is just because of the Michael Jordan factor. But
if you really listen to what he was saying, I
think you kind of get the drift, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I get what you're saying too. So it's just ironic
that the very next day Lucas said the exact operation.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
And we said on the show yesterday with the new
Guggenheimen group coming in that they're not really gonna be
in place around Lebron, He's probably gonna be out of there.
They're gonna be building around Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
And speaking of watches and rings, I always had this
theory that if you were ever gonna buy an engagement ring,
your fiance should buy you a sweet watch. What do
you think about that don't you think there you should
get something in return. That's always been my theory.

Speaker 10 (01:04:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
I'm fighting for the guy in this. I want a
nice watch. Yeah. The men's rings always stink.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
So yeah, exactly right. So anyway, guys, thank you so
much for hanging out with us. Over promised on Fox
Sports Radio's YouTube page. We do it next, a Rivederci baby,
see you in the promising, see you in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Let's go, Yes,