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June 11, 2025 • 46 mins

Big Ben talks about Aaron Rodgers' first press conference as a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers, the NBA Finals having record low ratings, Maller to the Third Degree, #QueenOfHearts w/ LaReina, Password: Word Game of the Stars, and more!

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our lead this hour is from Pittsburgh. Play the hits,

(02:06):
my man, Play the hits, all right, well, play the hits.
We have been talking about this particular storyline for months
and months and months and months and months, and here
we are the obligatory Mallard monologue on the life and
times the stylings of mister Rogers. That's right, mister Rogers Neighborhood,

(02:26):
which was produced by public television in Pittsburgh. And now
mister Rogers is going to be playing quarterback for the
hometown team there. Aaron Rodgers arrived. Oh so exciting. I'm emotional.
I'm for clemped, I am verklemped. Rogers arrived there first
day of mandatory mini camp. You always remember your first time.

(02:48):
And he put on that Steeler uniform at the practice
facility right there, and he spoke with the media. He
waxed loquacious and I don't know if you heard what
he had to say, not perhaps not, but Aaron Rodgers
going on and on for the first time as a
member of the Pittsburgh football team. Now, keep in mind,
he did want to play for the Vikings.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
They didn't want him.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And he even talked to the Giants. He must have
been on some ayahuasca when he talked to the Giants.
Were you talking to the Giants? You already play with
the Jets. You've experienced suck football in the New York
tri state area. Why would you want to play with
the other suck team. Anyway, he ends up in Pittsburgh,
and so there were discussions with other other teams, but
he ends up going there. Now, we chopped up a

(03:29):
couple of clips for you from Aaron Rodgers. Here he
covered a wide range of topics. It was like fifteen minutes,
so it wasn't that long. You can watch the whole
thing if you want. For this pretty boring, So we'll
just give you the highlights. That's all you need. You
don't need the whole thing. Time is the most valuable
commodity you have, so why waste it listening to that?
So let me a little taste here, little just to taste,

(03:50):
just a little taste there. So airin Roger. Now he
explained why he waited so long the long national nightmare
came doing. Why did he win so long to go
and sign that contract? And now listen closely because this is
a telling answer to a list.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
I don't want to short change the guys and be
you know, sign but be elsewhere mentally or physically. So
until I could be here and be all in. You know,
I needed to take care of my business.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Okay, got to take care of my business now. But wait,
there's more.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Rogers says he chose to play for the Steelers after
doing some soul searching.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Take a list.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
I don't need it for my ego. I don't need it. No,
keep playing a lot of decisions that I've made over
my career and life, from strictly to ego. Yeah, even
if they turn out well or always unfulfilling, that's right.
Decisions made yes from the soul soul are usually pretty fulfilling.
So this was a decision that was best for my soul.

(04:52):
And I felt like being here with Coach t and
the guys they got here and the opportunity here was
the best for me, and and I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I do the same thing. When I come in
here and do sports takes, I do it from the soul.
I do my sports takes are from the soul. And
when they're not from the soul, I'm not fulfilled. I'm
not all right. So let us discuss the question. Can
you parse the words we gave you some of them?
Can you parse the words of Aaron Rogers and his

(05:21):
commentary on the first formal media conference by Aaron Rodgers
as a Pittsburgh steer.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
So I've got.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Buldurham, dead air, and mausoleum, and we will combine all
of these things together, and we're gonna make a Pittsburgh sandwich,
which is a sandwich. What's the Pittsburgh Salmich. Well, that's
a sandwich. Will you put the fries on top of
the sandwich. That's a Pittsburgh sanwiche. And we're not gonna
make Pittsburgh pizza, which is disgusting. In the greater Pittsburgh area,

(05:49):
they have that pizza where they don't cook the cheese
and the toppings.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Pee ye, what stings?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Anyway, get to the point, please, So, in terms of
parsing the words of Aaron Rodgers, this is rather straightforward.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
It's rather straightforward. It's by the book to the letter,
if you will, we'll go that far now.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Rogers, for much of this he went what we call
Bull Durham. That's an old baseball movie. It's a classic
if you haven't seen it. The famous scene where Crashed Davis,
one of the characters in the baseball movie there, gives
advice to new Clalouge and he says, you're gonna have
to learn your cliches, right, I gotta have to learn
your cliches. You're gonna have to study them, and you're

(06:28):
gonna have to know them. They're your friends, all right,
that's your friends. And so Rogers's been around. That's not
his first barbecue, and so Rodgers knows a thing or
two about cliches. And he's very mechanical for much of it,
as we anticipated he would be. For the most party
smooched the Steeler history smooth smooch. Smooch gave a big

(06:49):
wet kiss to the Pittsburgh Yinzer crowd there, talked about
all the people that he's worked with who are from
western Pennsylvania and all that stuff, and he he was going.
Now the first SoundBite that we played, though, the first
SoundBite that we played that was telling because Rogers confirmed

(07:10):
what we had been hearing. He said the quiet part
out loud. He said what it sounded like to me.
We don't play that cut one. We even't play that again.
Let's play that cut one. He listened to Rogers here
because I think it's interesting.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
I didn't want to short change the guys and be,
you know, sign but be elsewhere mentally or physically. So
until I could be here and be all in, you know,
I needed to take care of.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
My business, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
So the way I interpreted that using the malo of
Rosetta stone is that Aaron Rodgers is still bitter that
he got ripped when he was with the Jets for
going to the Pyramids in Egypt, and he's still bitter
about that. So he had things planned. We'll get to
that in a second. What he was planning.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
But Aaron Rodgers, like hey, I'm not doing it again.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
All right, I'll play for you, but I'm gonna wait
until I'm done with all of my itinerary and all
of my travel plans, and then only then i will
sign with your stupid football team.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
And if you don't want it, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's what he did. He didn't want to hassle. He
had trips planned around the world, has his passport burning
a hole in his pocket. He wanted to use his passport,
so that's it. He just bounced around and that's what
he did. And he waited and he's done with his travel,
so he's like, okay, I'll now attend the team functions
and the workouts and all that crap. And he confirmed it.

(08:29):
That is confirmation. That is confirmation what you heard from
Rogers's confirmation. Now, as for the soul searching and satisfaction
for your soul, that was mostly a bubble bath for
Mike Tomlin, suck up to your new boss and curry

(08:49):
favor romance between Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers. Now page two.
The other big storyline. The other big storyline here is
that Aaron Rodgers also confirmed that one of the things
that he was busy doing this offseason was getting married.
Oh my god, it's a tabloid starts true. Rogers showed

(09:13):
up to the Kentucky Derby with a wedding band, and
some people thought that was like a ssy op. That
was like some kind of weird trick that Rogers was doing.
Now some guys are going out of the pawnshop to
get a wedding band because for some reason, women are
more attracted the men who have a wedding band.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Go figure.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Anyway, Rogers actually got married. He confirmed it. He's got
a new wife, offseason wedding. He's been married for at
least a couple of months. And what intrigues you, though, question?
What intrigues you most about the fact that this is
a pretty big development.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's a tabloid story man, Okay, but it's a kind
of a big So what intrigues you most? So?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
For me, it's the dead air. It's the dead air.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I have nightmares about dead air right actually day meares
because I sleep during the day. But I have issues
with the dead air. Radio silence, another problem radio sounds.
We talked about a public figure, a polarizing figure in
Aaron Rodgers, a man that lives in Malibu. Buu Right
lives in Malibu, the part that didn't burn down, and

(10:23):
they have an infestation in Malibu with paparazzo. They're everywhere.
The paparazzi's all over the place. And there was no leek.
We didn't see TMZ helicopters flying overhead, no ex girlfriend
or ex buddy spilling the beans on the gram.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
None of that.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's unreal to my knowledge as I understand the story.
There were no photos. Still, the tabloids are losing their mind.
There are no photos of his wife. We know her name,
but there's no photos. The Daily Mail and the New
York Post are losing it there. Oh my god, we've
got to fight up photos. Woman me down, I'm cause
you look like no. They got there trying to get

(11:04):
the bottom of it, and everyone everyone's like, I don't
know who.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
We know kind of her name, but that's it. We
don't know who she is.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
The thing about they've been married for a couple of months.
I assume if you're married, you normally live together, so
they've never gone out in public together. In Malibu, the
paparazzo outside every grocery store and restaurant in Melbourne. There's
no photos of them together, like walking on the beach,
even nothing that's bizarre.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
And they said, wow, maybe they eloped. Okay, they eloped.
I eloped. I eloped in Hawaii. Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
But even if you elope, there's always somebody at the
courthouse who has to fill out and file the paperwork.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Even if it's done digitally, And.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Those people can call the tip line at Harvey Levin's
office over their TMZ and make ten grand saying, hey,
I got Aaron Rodgers got married to this this broad
over got on her name, but here's her name. You know,
boom done. Ten grand in your pocket could be twenty
five thousand dollar. Nobody did that. So he said he's married,

(12:03):
he's got the wedding. Is he actually designed the paper?
Is this just like a faux wedding?

Speaker 5 (12:07):
I don't know. I don't know. So it's it's interesting
to me.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
He had another quarterback, Josh Allen, who had a celebrity
wedding and there were helicopters overhead, there were paparazzo outside.
He got married in Santa Barbara and there were a
bunch of people there. Now we know Rogers family likely
was not his wedding. He doesn't like them, so he
wasn't with his family, but to keep everyone on there,
even his friends are claiming I thought they were lying.

(12:33):
Maybe they were lying that ah, they didn't know about it,
like nobody.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Knew about it.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
So rogers, he's playing chess. He's playing four D chess
on this one, to keep everyone out of the loop,
dodging the tabloids like would be tacklers running with the
football there, ducking the paparazzi as they try to get
a photo of him living his life off the grid
in a very very public place. So forget audibles. This

(13:00):
is not an audible. This is a misdirection play, is
what this is. Now the last word here we head
to Cleveland, where the football sucks. But the sound bites
are not bad. The sound bites are not bad. So
an amusing quote from defensive and Miles Garrett.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
You know who he is.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, he's the guy that almost killed the Steelers quarterback
a couple of years ago, threw his helmet at him,
went four.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Didn't connect, or Miles Garrett would not be in the
NFL right now.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Anyway, Miles Garrett is in the NFL, and he was
asked about Aaron Rodgers being a divisional opponent, which means
you get to play him twice.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
And here is.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
What Aaron Rodgers' opponent here, Miles Garrett had to say,
takes but.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Not think about it. Yeah, here, I think it's opportunity
to put him in the graveyard. Oh my god, he
wants to kill him. Call the cops.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Miles Garrett wants to murder Aaron Rodgers violence.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
I know, so you heard it. The Browns defensive end.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Miles Garrett asked about Aaron Rodgers joining the Steelers, and
he said, I think it's quote, I think it's good
opportunity to put him in the graveyard. Close quote. Do
you see that actually happening ending Rogers' career? Well, not
because of Miles Garrett making a sack on Aaron Rodgers.
We do not see that, all right, We do not

(14:30):
see that at all. Aaron Rodgers joining the Steelers. By
the way, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, Aaron Rodgers did join
the Steelers from the other side, from the other side
of the Pearly gates. He was in a mausoleum. He
played for the Jets. When you play for the Jets,
it's like living in a burial chamber when you're playing

(14:51):
for the Jets. Your career dies when you play there.
It just does. It did for Aaron Rodgers, right, And
so Rogers is looking to be Poltergeist and come back
to haunt Gang Green by turning out to be the
player they thought the Jets were getting. But do it
with the Pittsburgh Steelers and all that and spooky, spooky,

(15:14):
spooky spooky Aaron Rodgers. Now, as for Miles Garrett. As
for Miles Garrett, it's it's a good quip. Guys got
big feet known as Bigfoot, so good good quip by him.
And now Miles Garrett should know a thing or two
about quarterbacks being put into the graveyard. He has witnessed
many of his teammates who played quarterback put in the graveyard,

(15:35):
so he knows what that's like. He knows the visual
on that. And playing for the Browns, boy, there's a
lot of bodies buried and they're Brown quarterbacks. There a wasteland,
a wasteland for a quarterback's career.

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hour is from the NBA.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Did you see that game? Last said?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh my god, what a game, complete lockdown. SGA did
not score. Indiana has solved the puzzle. They stopped. The
MVP of the NBA didn't score basket Well, the reason I.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Know they didn't play. I know they didn't play. That's
the point.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
The furlough continues the NBA Finals. So we asked the question,
now that we've had a little more time. Great game
one ending, Indiana came back, they won, Game won, So
then Oklahoma City came back in one.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Game two.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
The report card is out on game number two of
the NBA Finals. So did it get better or did
it get worse? Did it get better? Did it get worse?
Did it stay the same? Did you see this? No,
you didn't see this?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
All right?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Good buckle up, bukaroo. So game two, which was a
route or route depending on how you learned how to
speak the language. NBA Finals, the Thunder and the Pacers.
That was back on Sunday night, Big TV night. Remember
they waited till Sunday to play that game. They played Thursday,

(18:47):
took off Friday, could have played on Saturday, but they
played on Sunday because this was big television nights.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
So clearly people wanted to watch.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And that drew less than nine million people. A couple
hundred million people live in the United so three hundred
million people live in the United States and they had
less than nine million. Wow, lowest for a Game two
in the finals in almost twenty years, so almost a

(19:15):
generation eighteen years. You got to go back there, and
that doesn't count, Like the COVID stuff doesn't count because
they were playing As we pointed out, the Laker Championship
doesn't count because they were playing games at a at
Mickey Mouse Land in Orlando, and so that doesn't count.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
This year's Game two, the viewership saw a drop of
thirty percent thirty percent from last year's matchup between the
Boston Celtics and the Dallas Mavericks. They lost thirty percent.
If you're a major business and you lose thirty percent
of your customers, there is panic at the disco. You

(19:52):
have lost thirty percent of your business. And that happened
so let us discuss the question under pacers. NBA Finals
Game two, lowest TV rating and almost a generation.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
So I've got culinary rebellion, double dog dare, and lifeblood,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we're gonna put them into a cast role and we're
gonna glow while the moon is bright.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
We're gonna glow while the moon is bright.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
As opposed to making hay when the sun's up, because
we can't make hay when the sun's up because we're
at night.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
So we have to glow while the moon is bright.
So number wa, number wa.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
This is more than a whisper, like a whispers a,
you know, it's just a whisper. Game one that was
not great, But this really is for me. Two words,
puffy sticker. That is a puffy sticker. We get a
puffy sticker. Hot take validation, Hot take validation. Now I

(21:03):
ranted and raved like a lunatic because the company pays
me to do that, and I was ranting about the
NBA Finals. I said, oh, this is terrible, and one
was gonna watch blah blah. So I got a couple
of emails, both both of them from Oklahoma City related.
I don't know if they're in Oklahoma City, but they're
Oklahoma fans. I assume they're in Oklahoma. And both of
them were complaining about how this is great for the

(21:26):
NBA and you're wrong. You're just a big city guy
in LA and you represent the coast, the West coast,
and you probably represent.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
The East coast. This is one guy in particular, Mike
was his.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Name or is his name? I assume it's still his name.
I don't think he's changed his name since he sent
me the email about ten days ago. And Mike was
ranting and he's like.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Oh, yeah, you typical media. You trust me.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm not typical media. I'm on Overnight. We're not in
mainstream anyway. I think I was ranting and complaining and
he was. I felt when I was. I didn't read
the whole thing, because why would I, but I felt
it was it was therapeutic for Mike the thunderfan. And
it's weird. Kyrie is the only thunder fan that I
really knew of until until the finals, and now there's.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Like a couple others that are popular.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Anyway, the point is this guy was complaining, like, oh,
you know you're wrong and people love basketball and it's
not just the stars and all that stuff, and this
finals will prove it and you're wrong and you'll apologize
and okay, well we're two games in. The casual fans
have voted with their eyeballs, and they have voted with
their remote controls. They have voted with their streaming services,

(22:36):
and they ain't interested. Okay, they're not the hot take.
That hot take is aging quite well. That is a
solid take. That is not like bread, that is like honey.
That is a solid take there, and it's it's good discerning.
Customers of pro bouncy ball drive a hard bargain. They
don't want this. You're selling a product. They don't want it.

(22:59):
They're not interested in it. And the NBA for years
has had an old family recipe that has been passed
down from generations.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
It's worked for the most part.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
There have been years it doesn't work, but for the
most part, it's star power.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
It's entertainment. You're selling entertainment here.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And the recipe has always been equal parts big market.
You can have a small market, but you gotta have
one big market, and there's a big market. You got
to have a rivalry that really helps the whole rating
situation gets people joned up. You gotta have a storyline.
People love stories. Everyone loves a story, right, We all
learn from stories. The stories are important, So you love

(23:37):
a storyline. The new recipe that the people over the
NBA have cooked up. They changed the salary cap rules
a couple years back, which helped facilitate what we're getting
right now Pacers and Thunder. I'm convinced without those salary
cap regulations, we would not have this matchup in the
NBA Finals.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
That's my hot take on that.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Nonetheless, the new recipe is a class tale of culinary
rebellion gone wrong. They changed the recipe. Nobody wanted the
recipe change. So the other night they showed the stars.
They love to show stars at NBA games because for
years that's what they've done. There have been big stars
from entertainment that had been in these games. And so

(24:17):
NBA Finals Game one they showed Adam Silver, he was
the big star. And I think in game two they
had Chris Paul because he used to play in Oklahoma
City and those are the biggest celebrities in Oklahoma. You
talk about glitz and clamor lizard person Adam Silver sitting

(24:38):
at your game. So listen, the NBA rolled the dice.
They rolled the dice, two small market teams and propping
up Tyrese Halliburton and SGA and these guys. And guess
what the numbers came up. Snake guys. They got snake
guys in this. And when it comes to National Appeal,

(24:59):
two games in crickets and not Jiminy crickets, just crickets.
The league banking on that Tyrese hallap Burton game winner
in game one, his eroics to put some juice into
this NBA Finals. You get the ratings up for the
NBA Finals, but instead Game two dropped. How low can
you go? The ratings went down. That is very rare

(25:21):
that that happens, very rare that a game to game
gets worse in the NBA, especially with a close game,
buzzer beater, all that stuff. Now listen, obviously had the
blowout factor in Game two. Normally, though, you build up
it's kind of like doing a radio show, and not
to let you know how we make the hot dogs
around here, but you you start out with a smaller

(25:44):
audience and then you grow the audience. And it's also
like a relay race, right, every show's passing the audience
on to the next show. And that's kind of how
that that all works. But the Thunder they ran away
with that game Game two. It was a blowout city
and America checked out, not that they ever tuned in,
but those that did tune in said, bye bye, no drama,

(26:05):
you had no intrigue, You had a glorified scrimmage and
a major vote of no confidence to Tyreese Halliburton and
Shay Jugis Alexander and their star power. And so Oklahoma
and Indiana got together, they barely cracked nine million. Actually
was less than that. I was eight The actual number
was eight point seven million, so less.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Than nine million.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And that one of the least watched finals games in
modern history.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
And so there we are now turning the page.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
As for the basketball, which Mike from Oklahoma and several
other of you said, it's really about the basketball. As
we found out in the NBA Finals, there really aren't
that many pure basketball fans that love the way that
thunderplay and the Pacers, there's not that many of them.
People don't tune in for that. That's just the way
it is anyway, let's get the point please, So you

(26:59):
break it down, go point by point of this. But
as for the basketball, you've got SGA and the Thunder
who are listed as a five and a half point
betting favorite on the road for Game three, which is
on Wednesday night. So how do you process that Oklahoma
City as a road favorite by over five five and

(27:20):
a half. So Shay Juggas, Alexander is playing like he's possessed, right,
That's the first thing. He's playing very well former Clipper.
That's what former Clippers do. They play very well in
the finals. He's averaging thirty six points a game in
the first two on average, and Oklahoma City getting close
to a touchdown touchdown six points, so you're getting almost

(27:42):
a touchdown head start and.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
You got to win by that.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
In Indiana they are oher to three this postseason. In
the third game of playoff series, they're ower and two
at home. So that doesn't bode well if you play
trends now the gambling market. What the gambling market is
doing here is they are issuing to Joe Schmoe the better.
They are issuing a double dog. Dare I double dog?

(28:09):
Dare you to take the Indiana Pacers at home to
throw some shekels on Indiana. Now, there is one trend
if you're someone that plays trends, I like trends, but
I know that tells you what has happened, not what's
going to happen. But if you play trends here, there's
one trend that does say that Tyrese Haliburton and friends
are at least worth a shot.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So? Oklahoma City has had absolute futility in one area
on area against the spread, they've had futility here and
that is away from home. The Thunder have started the playoffs,
they played seven road games as they are in the
NBA Finals now, seven road games and they are oh

(28:54):
in seven against the spread. So that means if you
blindly bet on whoever was playing the under when the
Thunder were on the road, you would have won all
seven of your bets against the spread. Now, it is
also interesting to node that despite that, owen seven against
the number, which means you're not living up to expectations.
The Thunder have a winning record straight up, so they've

(29:17):
won four of those games straight up. But the gambling
market's a little different, and they were the first team
to lose. Oklahoma said, this is a fun fact. By
the way, I got to mix in a fun factor.
So the Thunder were the first team to lose six
consecutive playoff road games against the spread since the Doc
Rivers coach Boston Celtics of eight man. When you're in

(29:42):
the same class as a Doc Rivers coach team, that
is not good.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
You've done something wrong. You've done something right.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
That team, that Boston team with Paul Pierce and Garnett
and those guys, that Celtic team was owen six against.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
The spread on the road to start the playoffs that year.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
They then went five and one against the number the
rest of that playoff run, and they ended up winning
a ring championship. Ring all right, Now, final point, we
pivot to the experience. It's all about the experience. I
don't know if you've ever been to an NBA game,
I don't know if you've ever been no sporting it.
Maybe you have, maybe you haven't. A few back in

(30:20):
the day, maybe you went to a few. So on
the latest episode of Shack's Fledgling podcast, that's not the
name of it, but I don't know the name, but
it's a Shack doesn't podcast.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Everyone's got one. I've got one. You probably have two podcasts.
Blian Emma's got a podcast. Everyone's got to.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
So anyway, on Shack's podcast, his subordinate someone named Adam Lefko.
We're not sure who that is, but apparently he's, you know,
like somebody that massages shacked shoulders.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
So this guy, Adam Lefko is the name.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And this cat suggested that the NBA needs to say
bye bye to cell phones. They need to ban fans
from using cell phones at games. That he wants all
eyes on the court. This was the hot talk on
the Shack podcast. So he wants it to be like

(31:12):
you're in Augusta, Georgia. If you've ever watched The Masters,
they give you cheap food. You are not allowed to
have a.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Phone at the Masters.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You cannot do it right, cell phone free territory and
all that stuff. And so he said, when the Masters
is coming to an end, the crowd there is all
engaged and they're going nuts and they're paying attention. It's
not like that at the NBA. So he wants a
strict no phone policy. So we'll use that as a

(31:42):
jumping off point. And the question Shack's podcast, his Shaquille
and you know his sidekick there suggesting a cell phone
ban ban ban ban for NBA crowds. Is this forward
thing thinking or totally off the rails? That's the question.

(32:04):
Is it forward thinking or totally off the rails? So
this is a full classic steam engine locomotive.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
True.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Kaboom off the tracks derailment, derailment. Now, I will admit
it is rather annoying when you see a big moment
at a sporting event and what do you see the
crowd doing. Do you remember when Lebron James past best
Kareem Abdul Jabbar for the all time points record in

(32:37):
the NBA and they had a shot of behind the
basket the other basket and Lebron making the shot, and
what was ninety nine point nine percent of the crowd doing. I'll, i'll,
I know it's radio, but I'll show you here. What
they did is they were doing that. They did the
statue of liberty.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
They were doing that.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
They did this at your Liberty had the phone out
and they were like, lady Liberty and they were holding
their arm up, give me liberty, or give me this
clip that no one will ever watch but I'm going
to record it rather than watch it with my balls.
And I remember that photo was an iconic photo because
everyone had their phone out. The only one that didn't
was the guy Phil Knight from Nike and whoever he

(33:19):
was with. Other than that, everyone had their phone out.
They wanted to not watch it with their own eyes.
They wanted to record it on their phone so they
could go viral because there's nineteen thousand people recording it
on the phone. So I don't like it, but I
also realized that we live in the modern world, and
this is the world that we're in, and you cannot

(33:41):
the NBA is impossible. It is an impossible situation. You're
not at a comedy club, chuckles, comedy club, no phones,
you can't record because you're recording, you're actually practicing for
some HBO special.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
It's not that you're not at a concert.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's not that it's not some kind of court position
where you can't have your phone.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
It's good luck, all right, good luck.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
And by the way, the fans not being into the game,
if that's the complaint because they're on the phone, will
make your product more compelling, make your product better. How
about load management?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Goes away.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
How about not nineteen instant replay reviews every quarter? And
a guy complained about that earlier and the other issue,
and I don't know how you get around this one,
even if you wanted to get rid of the phone thing.
The NBA is a product designed for the phone. They
have built the modern business model on the phone. The

(34:40):
lifeblood the Am I wrong on this? The lifeblood of
the NBA. And the reason that they think they matter
is because of the phone. It's video clips on the TikTok,
it's court side selfies with celebrities, it's sizzle reels.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
On the ground. I am like, it's all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That's why they can't possibly get rid of the phone.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Right, You're gonna take all that stuff away and it's
not gonna change now.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I had an idea a couple of years ago, and
I said, well, why don't they just put those blockers
up so nobody has cell reception?

Speaker 5 (35:17):
But that wouldn't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
There's a beach I go to here in southern California
and during the day they'll I don't know how they
do it, but they put something up they can't use
your cell phone. It like blocks cell reception. So you
just have to enjoy the beach. And my wife loves
going there. I hate it because I can't be on
my phone and she loves it because I can't be
on my phone. But we go there a lot, and
I don't know how they do it, but then at

(35:38):
night they turn whatever device they use off. It's probably
not that complicated, and then you can use your phone
because the sun's down and can't really see much at
the beach at night, and so that's that. So there
are always do it, but it doesn't matter because people
just want to record the video, so they'll upload it later.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
They'll put it on social media later.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So even if you block the if you block the
cell and then and so they couldn't get on this,
they still do it later. So it's like big deal,
you're not going to stop that problem. And the other
thing is enforcement, like how do you enforce it? Like
most teams now they don't use paper tickets. You have
to actually use your phone to get in. So they're

(36:17):
begging for.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Attention from young people who all the young people do
is on your phone. I hold people on the phone too.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So they want to go to the old I guess
they say homage but it's really the old order Mennonite.
The Mennonites are the ones that don't use the technology, right,
the real Mennonites, they're the ones.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And so bring back the horse and buggy.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
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Speaker 5 (36:43):
How about that to this third degree, this is one
big event. Gets grilled all right? Coolo.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
It was supported this week that Travis Hunter has the
third best odds for both defensive and offensive Rookie of
the Year.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
And which one would you put your money on?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Okay, So Trevor Lawren. This is his quarterback, and Lawrence
has been a boss. He's not as good as he
was supposed to be. He's just a mid level quarterback.
So I'm gonna go defense. I'm gonna go defense. Travis
Hunter defensive stalwart. He wants to play offense more, but
I would bet on him being the defensive Rookie of
the Year as opposed to the offensive rookie year. Is
more competition for offensive Rookie of the Year, so I

(37:19):
think it's easier for him to stand out with some
big interceptions on defense.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Next.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
In the latest episode of Draymond Green's podcast, Draymond made
the argument that Alex Caruso is the thunders third most
important player behind Shay Gilgis, Alexander and Jalen Williams.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Ben, Is he right? What's a nice.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Argument by Draymond Grant's good engagement farming.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
On his podcast?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
But No, Alex Caruso is a valuable reserve for Oklahoma City.
But I'm going with Skeletor as my guy as my
number three option. Half man, half skeleton all right next.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Writer turned podcaster Bill Simmons said recently that he wouldn't
be surprised if Durant to the Spurs is already a
done deal that just hasn't been announced yet. Ben, Are
you buying Katie to San Antonio? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So, I do agree with Bill Simmons that most of
these things are done way in advance before they end
up in the public, and they time these things out.
It wouldn't shock me Durant, He's just skill go anywhere
as long as they are. I don't know the weed
laws in Texas. As long as you can smoke the
weed enjoy himself, I think.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
We'll go to have no property how do we know
that's the way. Put it on the board. Put it
on the board, blind, Scott.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I won.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I'm a winner.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
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Speaker 5 (38:42):
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clean Up Hearts, going to help you. Gear Rye, gear
Rye to night, gear ry to night. Dear ry you
heard the man.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
It's town for love here on the Ben Malars Show
and Summer's coming. Are you excited to go on trips
with your loved one?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I don't know. I'm really having really.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
Playing Catalina, maybe going on the meat right, maybe the Catalantic.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Are you going to Catalina? Have you been to Catalina?

Speaker 9 (39:17):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (39:18):
I have.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
I really like it. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's gorgeous over there.
There's not much to do. You can look at bison, yeah,
and then that's an hour and then and then you
can take the boat back. Yeah, I got you. These
are actual questions by actual.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Members of the mal Or Militia and.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
First Cats in the Club.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Ferg Dog writes it and says, this is I think
appropriate question concerning what's going on in some cities around
the country. He says, our riot's a good place to
meet attractive women. That's from ferg Dog.

Speaker 8 (39:52):
Well, it's kind of hard to tell if they're attractive.
A lot of them are wearing gas masks or sunglasses
to make sure that their faces are protected a long wearing.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Mask because they're committing criminal acts and they don't want
to get caught.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
Well, it's not legal to protest. It's legal to commit.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's right to break and do a yes, an apple store,
and that's not necessarily.

Speaker 8 (40:13):
The protesters, but you might be able to find someone
who would.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
I would argue it is. But there's also.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
People who might have the same ideologies as you that
you could find at these protests. So go and support
your local.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Protest or just pretend like you're into it fer Dog
and then you know good luck works for you.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
JT.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
The Wingman writes in from Knoxville, says, when it comes
to the bedroom, so women prefer quantity or quality, I'm
asking for a friend.

Speaker 8 (40:40):
We want both.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
I mean that's too much.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
No, that's like lebar Arrington says, I want to have
my cake and eat it too.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Yeah. So you want well, it's not.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
I want quality, quantity, all.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Of the you want all of all of the ball.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
Yes, and if you know, if you pick a a
nice lady you know, might be worth it.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Yeah, it's good, all right.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Mike the Leprechaun writes and says, what would Lorena do if,
by accident, she hastily accepted a friend's request on Facebook
from someone she barely knows or likes.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
Okay, so I actually did go, and I was going
to delete him, and then I saw how sad his
page was, and I was like, you know what, maybe
he needs more friends. So then I decided not to
delete him, all right.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Hollering James, Hello, hollering James, what's up?

Speaker 7 (41:32):
James?

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Man, Lorena, what's up?

Speaker 5 (41:39):
I'm kind of bummed out because I getting a rough
Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
It's hard when you're lonely.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Huh, thank you, James.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Super Marcus Steve says, what is it with women liking
men wearing wedding rings? I never got approached by any
women until I got married. Just explain this, Lorena. Women
dudes with wedding rings?

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Yeah, I would I would love to explain that, because
women when they see a man with a wedding ring on,
They're like, oh, not only can I not have this,
this must be a good man. And I love the
idea of a good man. Maybe this good man could
be my good man. But then you just turn that
good man into a bad man, and then the cycle
continues and you got a cheater on your hands.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Bad, bad, bad.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I wish I'd known that when I was single back
in that I would have bought one of those wings
at a pawn shop or something like that.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
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Speaker 5 (42:46):
Right to where we go. We have the Holy Roller
in Hawaii? And what time is it in Hawaii? Right now?
Holy Roller?

Speaker 9 (42:54):
Hello, we're gonna break twelve or three hours.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Different bout eleven.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
Let's go baby win.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
So it's almost midnight alright in Hawaii. Very exciting.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Okay, you're gonna play with me and Sean is in
North Dakota teamed up with Lorraina. We have a list
of words one to ten one to ten, and please
pick a number.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I'll pick number one, number one?

Speaker 5 (43:23):
All right? How about let's go with erase a ray
erase e r a s e erase queen.

Speaker 8 (43:39):
Uh, all right, I'm gonna go with the.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Word is rash. The word is track? What what?

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
No?

Speaker 8 (43:54):
No?

Speaker 5 (43:56):
How about eliminate? Gone? Alright, this is going very well
as I imagined it would. Back to Lorraina.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
I'm gonna go with backspace ben.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Leak.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Oh my god, you can't. How are you doing, dude?
I know you're drunk, but you can't. I would How
many points was that?

Speaker 8 (44:26):
I just lost my point because my guy, well that
was my guy.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Yeah, that was neative seven.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Okay, you are up, Sean, pick a number one to ten.
Please keep your mouth clean. I'll wash it out with
soap and water if you don't.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Number eight.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
That's easy, easy?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Is that? Oh?

Speaker 8 (44:46):
I go first? Oh gosh, restrictions.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Sean held, Hell alright, holy roll, starvation, starvation start.

Speaker 9 (45:08):
That's the opposite of Okay, I was I was doing.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
That's right, I was doing the malle maneuver. Didn't work.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
Oh okay, I'll try the maneuver.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
No, I already did. It didn't work.

Speaker 8 (45:28):
Okay, So I'm gonna leave a blank spot and then
we're gonna go into the word.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Okay, are you ready Jesus, I'm Readycola what oh my god?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Know exacts? Why you know you don't know how to
do it? I did? He already did. I did the mall.
This guy's so hammered. You know I can't do the malim.
I know he's drunk. The guy's drunk. Let's try famine famine.
I only use the word start fation.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
I mean, you know what, you have a new herd.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
No.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
No, the game is no.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
The word is The word is come on, I mean,
come on, you don't have another beer?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Your word?

Speaker 5 (46:17):
The word is no. You didn't win. Everyone's a loser.
Everyone had to hear that. We're all losers.
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