June 13, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug and the crew talk about game four of the Stanley Cup Finals, and how it showed us what the worst part is about hockey. Doug and Dan Beyer talks about the course at Oakmont for the US Open. Former NBA Champion Eddie House joins Doug to talk about the NBA Finals. Plus, Beyer takes Doug and crew through a game of "I GOT DIBBS!".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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night and it suddenly became a Hockey Night in America.
Hockey Night in America. It was good. So yeah, we're
gonna start the show talking about the hockey a A
welcome in, don't worry, don't worry. We got some Joe
Flacco talking about TikTok dancing. Eddie House is gonna join us,
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of course, he's the two thousand and eight NBA Championship team.
He was on that Boston team, he played with Lebron.
He's got a couple of sons that are really really
talented players. Plus I just love and value his basketball opinion.
He'll join us at twenty five after the hour, we
got some Jalen Brunston and Josh Hart to talk about.
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Mark Stein will join us next hour, so we've got
plenty of hoops. I know Game four US tonight, it
is a pivotal game, and we'll talk about it. But
I I actually like hockey, but I hate this one
big part about hockey. And look, obviously the pieces are
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kind of similar to I know the sport is different,
but there's some similarities there to soccer, and I think
some of the similarities to soccer not as much so
are in this one thing. First again, welcome in. The
US Open is ongoing, and we'll we'll we'll talk about Oakmont.
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I also want to kind of quiz Dan Byron, like
I saw these pictures of the ninety four Open, and
there's now they've made it into this linksy track and
now it's like old golf links golf whatever, whereas before
Oakmont was almost felt like classic American style country club golf,
and I don't know, do we like this better? It's
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this a better way of you took the same course,
but it's completely different now. But last time, I'm watching
the Stanley Cup finals and it sort of dawned on
me as I'm looking at my text thread and watching
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the game take place, that I knew how it was
gonna end, and it was going to be a I
don't know it was a self fulfilling prophecy, or there
would just be there would just be a lot of
confirmation bias in it. Did anyone think that the best
team won last night? That's I guess my question. Do
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you think the best team won? And my answer would be, well, no,
that actually didn't happen. Edmonton's taking on Florida. I thought
Florida was the better team. I thought Florida was the
team that was dominant in overtime, and yet they lose
five to four. Edmonton ties the series into a piece
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and the last three games have all gone to overtime.
But my point is more geez, I thought, you know,
and I don't profess to know much anything about hockey,
and like I'm the track classic American sports fan, ninety
five percent of us didn't play hockey growing up, never
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played hockey on skates like it like. The extent of
my hockey years were the mid nineties ninety three and
ninety four. Specifically, that's when Wayne Gretzky took the Kings
to the Stanley Cup finals, and that's when NHL ninety
four was out and there was also Blades of Steel.
Those are that's the extent of my the deep hockey
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years for me and Buyer, I'm sure you know more
about hockey than I do. Sam. I read your texts
and I agree with you. My issue with hockey is
the randomness at times of how goals are scored in
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many ways takes away from who's actually the better team.
And I get the larger sample size of a season
is different, and ultimately the good teams the good teams.
But when you're in a playoff hockey and everyone who's
a hockey fan loves to have the same narrative, nothing
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better than overtime hockey. But I would say there's lots
of things better than overtime hockey because in other sports again,
and look this happens in football, where a team will dominate,
but they got a turnover here or there, or a
couple of crazy plays can happen some in basketball, where
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you know a team could play very well and you
catch a heater end of the game. He hit a
bunch of threes. It happened with the Pacers going back
to the next series, Game one. But by and large,
if a team is dominant is better for ninety five
percent of overtime, by and large, are gonna win, and
they'll be up so much you know won't matter. Not
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the case with hockey. I think the two things I
dislike about hockey is one hockey fan is the male
version of the WNBA fan. Hey, you haven't paid attentions
for twenty five years, and then when you do pay
attention to us, you don't know what you're talking about.
That's annoying. And then the annoying game action thing is
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I just have a tough time saying that Edmonton was
in any way better than Florida last night, specifically in overtime,
because I thought Florida out played him and then Edmonton
ends up with a goal.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I thought that Edmonton played I mean, they were down
three to nothing, so they obviously played well enough in
the second period to even it up at three, and
then they get the goal to go ahead. I think
Florida played better at the end and then into overtime
that I felt that they had all of the momentum.
But I think that is part of it as well
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is as someone who isn't a huge hockey fan and
also can get annoyed by a hockey fan. What I
loved about this overtime and other overtimes. Not only do
ioas Sam and I now have a vested interest in
Edmonton winning, but there's also this balance. There's this balance
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of do you play it safe, do you go for it?
What do you do? And if you go for it,
does that leave you week on the back end if
there's something that leaks out And that's what you got
last night. Florida actually had had a great chance in
overtime to win it and was unable to cash in.
I felt that they put more pressure on Edmonton. Edmonton
really didn't have any good chances and ultimately their goal
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comes on a bit of a fluke play. But it's
also no difference. And this may not change your opinion, Doug,
but we've had hot goalies in the past, right where
teams are just they've got the guy in net and
there's nothing that you can do about it. And I
think that when you have just the the balance, specifically
in overtime of sudden death in her take all, were
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every single possession, every almost pass of the puck could
alter the game. I find that very exciting.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Uh, Sam, where are you on? Going off of your
comments that you agree with me? But again Dan made
bigger comments, some having to do with what I'm talking about,
but obviously more thorough in terms of his analysis.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What's your what's your question?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Just like, well, again, when you walk away from last night,
I do you think the better team won? Do you
think that I? And is? And is it? That? Was
it exciting to the point where it's bringing you.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Back, bringing me back to watch the next game?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think this has been I don't know how to
size up these teams, Like I know, Florida is technically
better because they bested the Oilers last year and they
were the favorite coming into this Stanley Cup. All I
know is that, like you know, three of the four
games have been over time have been pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You know, you've got teams winning on the road this
is a good product. I'm not a hockey guy. I
don't I don't know how to size these teams up,
but I know that the Oilers have a couple of
huge stars in Dry Sydle and McDavid and the.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Last night Why did you like last night's game?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I feel like the I feel like the Edmonton Oilers
kind of have this like Pacers kind of energy, like
I'm gonna I'm just pulling for him, and I know
that they're not They're not the better team than than
Oklahoma City, but they find ways to at least tie
up the series or take a lead like the Pacers
did in this in the series. And that's just got me,
got me hooked. I yeah, it's a good It's been
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a good fine, a good product.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, Jay Stu, Now again, I'm gonna Jay Stu,
I don't know where you come in on hockey. I mean,
we you and I have talked about it some, but
for for people don't know, Jay Stu was a huge
part of the Jim Rome Show for a long time.
How many years you with with Rome?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Uh? Fourteen years?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Fourteen? It's actually the numb I thought, but I said
it and I was like, is that the right number?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Andy Reid? Andy? Just for listeners who want to want
a reference, my time with Jim Rome mirrored Andy Reid's
time with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Okay, so An you tell me you want to think about, man,
how long will Jess do with Jim Rome? Think Andy
Reid with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's actually very helpful.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I bring it up because and I don't know if
Rome's affinity for hockey was real or just radio creation,
but I will say that you guys talk more hockey
than anybody. I mean, I honestly, my thought, well our
thought always when I was at ESPN Radio was Rome's
talking hockey. Everybody else wins because the second you talk
about hockey, people go, Nick, don't care, right, And you
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guys talk hockey some like regular season, early playoffs, not
just Stanley Cup finals. Were you Have you been as
engaged and locked in on hockey even during those fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No. Never.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
It's a sport that has never once with me. I
have good friends that are hockey fans, good friends that
are Kings fans, and they've always said, man, you got
to go. Once you go, you'll be hooked.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I've gone NASCAR Guy says the same thing. By the way,
Nascar guy always goes, you gotta go.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Go, and neither sport got me when I went in
the the premise of your question, did the better team win?
That assumes two things. That assumes I watched, and that
assumes that even if I did watch, I would have
the sophistication to know which team is better. To your point,
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one of the things that turns me off about the
sport is how random it is. Especially this is the
part that really gets me. When there's that the puck
is in front of the goalie and the goalie hasn't
secured it, and everyone is just chopping the hell out
of the ice to hit the puck and then it
goes off the goalie's leg and into the into the goal.
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I see zero gill and that. So it's hard for
me to get with stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like that that I completely agree with you on that,
and I normally agree with you on the level of sophistication.
Like it's like when I watch soccer highlights or I
watch halftime of soccer, the analysis is so weird because
they talk about spirit and energy, Like just tell me
who's playing better and why tried to explain me why
something's playing better. I don't know. Last time I was
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watching and I did really agree with Sam. I just
remember looking down at my phone and Sam had just
texted us saying like they're dominating in overtime, and I
was like, yeah, I mean they're not dominating in the score, obviously,
but it does feel like Edmonton is just staving off
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losing this thing play after play, just surviving. So I
like the sophistication as well. Jay s Douo and I'm
with you, it's never really resonated. I Alsos thought it
was cool. I'm like, yeah, it's cool sport, it's really hard.
It's just I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know, there there is something, and it's a reason
why we say there's nothing better than playoff hockey, because
you don't get this sense of urgency in the regular season.
And for as much as we may love the five
minutes that they play three on three, still a team
you know, ends up ends up winning and maybe they don't,
and then you just move on to the next game.
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Maybe it's exciting for those five minutes, but there is
something about this urgency, of the sudden death nature of
it where even the goal last night ended up being,
you know, a situation where it was two passes earlier
that probably set up the goal. And I know that's
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not for everybody, but that's to my point of why
every possession or what you do with the puck is
another opportunity to win or lose the game. You may
look at it from a perspective of, well, there are
no goals, just like Game two when they didn't score
any goals in the first overtime, but twenty minutes you
have a back and forth of this game could be
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decided on this sort of play. Honestly, as somebody who
was cheering for Edmonton last night, the first five minutes
of overtime felt like twenty minutes of game time because
it didn't seem like they were in control, and you're
just like, my goodness, when is this going to When
are you gonna be able to do something here? It
felt like Florida had all the chances and all the momentum,
and I remember looking up at the clock and I'm like, wow,
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there's only like five point twenty that's gone by in
this overtime session. Ultimately, from what you guys are saying,
how the game ends is an indicative of how the
end of the game was played, and that's what's frustrating
to you. But I just look at it as like,
if you have a dog in the fight, every single possession,
every single pass that you have could set up that goal.
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And that's what that's what makes it interesting. It's met
it interesting to me with a with a dog in
this fight.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's a fair way to look at it's a fair persective.
But yes, that's ultimately I do sometimes become a result
orienton like I don't I don't understand, and it hurts
my desire to view the sport because I just don't
understand or maybe I do, or say maybe that's that's
that's hockey. It's like we talk about that space.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, here's the funny thing as well. Just quickly, like
as we're having this conversation, we're talking and I'm not
pigging on Sam. I think that this is a this
is a legitimate thing that goes on. We're looking at
Florida as being the halves and Edmonton being the have
nots for what's not happened in hockey. Edmonton is home ice.
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They both were three seeds in their conferences. Edmonton actually
finished with more points this season. They have the best
player in all of hockey. So there are all these
seemingly inherent advantages towards Edmonton that we really don't pay
attention to because we look at the Panthers as the
defending Stanley Cup champs, and we look at Edmonton as
trying to break through with Canada and again Canadian streak. Yeah,
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and I think that's awesome. I actually think it's awesome
that it's it's a bit of the opposite. So like
we try compare it to the NBA, that's not necessarily
the case. And I'm talking as a guy that didn't
care about last year's Stanley Cup, even with Edmonton in it.
There is something about this year's that just brought me
in and I have no idea what it was. And
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I don't know if it's the NBA and having the
playoffs be how they played out. But my buddy back
in Wisconsin that I visited a couple of weeks ago,
who I never thought would ever watch a hockey game.
We're sitting at Buffalo Wild Wings eating and goes. It's
been really good because I've watched it more than the NBA,
and I found that very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It was a Buffalo wild wings order.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I did a boneless with some honey barbecue, garlic palm,
and I think I did a medium with it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
They have a new they have like a new honey
barbecue ranch or something like all combining ones.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yummy.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
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Speaker 1 (17:03):
The Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. It's the
Doug gotleep Show, Fox Sports Radio. Any house in a moment.
But if you're wondering what's going on in Oakmont, Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so buyer,
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I was watching I think it was on social media
show the ninety four Open at Oakmont. And it's like
a completely different course, right. It's like someone's like photoshop,
like if you cut out all the trees, what do
you think of transformation of this course?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And it's funny because I was thinking about this driving
in because they were talking about it as I was
listening to the broadcast. And this has been like that
for the last couple of opens, but it's always remains
a story. And it's crazy because it's named Oakmont, you
would think there'd be just tons of oak trees. No,
not the case. But yeah, I don't necessarily can you
call it Oakman if there's no oaks? Right? Something we
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can get into later.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
No, we get into now.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I mean, oh, okay, all right, I'm sorry, house on
hold them.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So no, no, he's we'll get him a second. So
what was the impetus behind the course change? So because
it is a dramatic change, yes, like it's literally from
country club golf to Lynskulf.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So prior to the two thousand and seven US Open,
they wanted to restore Oakmont to what its original layout was,
and that was basically no trees. And the stories they
told telling up to that point is they would sometimes
go out at night to cut the trees down so
membership wouldn't necessarily know that they were cutting trees down.
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And after a while, all of a sudden, all these
trees were cut down. You know, wait, like wait a second, hey,
that's missing. But it was to reflect and restore to
what the course was from the beginning from Henry Phones
then Doug. There's also been this move away from more
link style. Trees don't help grass grow. You're seeing a
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lot more courses remove trees. It's better for the grass,
it's better for the turf. But this was more to
be true to what Oakmont originally was, and it went
under a recent restoration, which has been the main story
heading into this open where gil Hans took it over
and they've taken parts of the design that the different
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designs that have occurred early on in Oakmont days and
tried to blend them into what is this current course.
But it did not have trees in its early going,
and the trees just ended up growing and growing throughout
the years. But that was the initial reason why they
decided to take them down prior to the seven Open.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It is interesting, as you point out, you had so
many different course designers coming in, it becomes you know,
I had no idea that's what it originally was. I
just didn't. But on some levels, when you have multiple
course designers, it's like when you have a really cool house,
It's like, did you have different contractors here? Like, no,
they redid this in Oa and they redid this, and
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you know, in fifteen and we just redid this or whatever,
and sometimes you get different tastes, but it is definitely
a linksy style. Now. It definitely looks like the original
game of golf, if you will, and it looks crazy, crazy, difficult.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And there are some that don't like that it doesn't
have trees. And there was even some conversation of this
week that you know, is it too far one way
as opposed to the other, because when you and I
play golf or others play golf, trees do make a difference.
They absolutely do. But I don't know if it's necessarily
needed at Oakmont just because of the defense is how
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fast their greens are. When the US Open puts the
rough like this, you're getting scores like this.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All right, let's turn from the US Open to the
NBA Finals. Eddie House won in an NBA championship in
two thousand and eight. Dude is awesome breaking it down
TV Radio joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Eddie, what's what's your what's your
EVL of what's going? What went wrong for the thunder
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in the fourth quarter in Game three?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
I think, uh, just Rick Carlisle his the way he
uh changes defenders on Shay, so Shay has to face
you know, say is so talented, you know, obviously the
league MVP. But I think what happened was picking him
up ninety four feet wearing him down. And I think
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what okay C needs to do is make an adjustment.
And that's what I'm looking for tonight, to see what
kind of adjustment uh daggonof is gonna make as far
as because what I would do, I would take Shaye
off the ball. I would not allow him until the
fourth quarter. I wouldn't have him bring the ball up.
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You know, I will have him get the ball with
a live dribble as opposed to having to bring the
ball up and have to fight ninety four feet to
get to his spot and then everybody else just standing around. No,
I will run my offense through somebody else. Jalen Williams
has to step up and then from there in the
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fourth quarter, state could go to work. You just want
to try to conserve is as much energy for him
as you can.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, do you think they're tired? Do you think that's
one of the things hurting the thunder?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
No?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Man? No, Yeah, A young young man they're not tired. Man,
You remember how you was when you was twenty six
twenty seven, or you was twenty three twenty four, You
wasn't You didn't get tired and you wanted to play.
I don't think that they're tired. I think that you
can wear on somebody, you know what I mean, and
you can make it where you're uncomfortable, and I don't
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think more so than being tired. I think Shay this
was uncomfortable the whole time because he's usually able to
just get to a spot moved easily, but they made
him have to work for everything. So I won't buy
the tiredness because you know, anybody that won a championship,
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anybody that played in the playoffs, anybody has that long run.
You all go through it, but especially if when you
in the finals. Man, there's no uh, you can't use
that as a crutch or.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Excuse hey, help me out, Eddie. Can you figure out
Tyre's Haliburton. There's some games that he plays where he
just kind of plays and floats and doesn't have a
huge impact, and then there are other games in which
he feels way more aggressive and he does have a
huge impact. I know it's just kind of unique. What
are your thoughts on Halliburton and why some games he's
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just not he's just not dominating in any way.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Well, he does in different ways. Right as far as assistance, right,
he always his assist numbers are always pretty much up.
I think the fact of the matter is that he
has to be aggressive offensively. And sometimes it's a traditional
point guard. You're a traditional point guard. You played that position.
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So sometimes you're not going to have a high you're
not gonna have a lot of points in certain games.
But then you got to understand that that happy medium,
you know what I mean, where you're like, Okay, I
have to be more aggressive and this series, and that's
the thing about it. Every series is different, every game
is every quarter is different, every half is different, every
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game is different. And I believe that he understands that
he has to put his foot on the gas for
them to be for them to win. And it's and
being aggressive. You know, people mix it up when when
when we say be aggressive, that doesn't necessarily mean that
you have to the ball all the time. That means
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just put pressure and be aggressive and you can make
the right play, whether it be a play for yourself
or a play for others. That's what I when I
say aggressive, you know, and a lot of people think
about aggressiveness is oh, you just got to go score,
You got to get up thirty shots. And now sometimes
you don't have to do that. Sometimes you don't.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Eddie House, our guest. You're at the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's uh, well, let's
get around the NBA just a little bit. Kevin Durant.
Everybody thinks he's gonna be traded. Where's the best spot
for him?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Man, you know it's it's a lot of good destinations
for him. If I was okay, see, even though they're
in this thing right now, they got a ton of
assets as far as draft picks and things like that.
And if you trade a guy like KD, then you're
looking to basically rebuild, you know, if you're a phoenix.
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So I will, okay, see, would be somebody that I
will be interested in. I'm not sure what everything that
the Rockets have over there, what they can make happen,
but they're red, they're ready made right now to keep
trying to push I think maybe Jalen Green and do
you want to get off a youngster that that fast.
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I don't know, you know what I mean for somebody
that's old improving older, I should say improving. Uh so
I would say it would be I think it would
be a happy marriage between okay see and uh for
him to go back to ok se.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Uh. I do too. I just again, we're it feels
like if he's going to be traded now or if
the discuss her now, I don't know if And again
I don't know if Okac is in that mode, but yeah,
they do need they need a guy who win the
house is on fires, like I got it. I'll get
us a bucket. We're good. They just don't don't have that.
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If if you're the Celtics.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
What do you do, Well, you got to look at uh,
you know, a Drew Holliday contract. You got to look
at a Christaps Porzingis, who has you know, shown that
he's been you know, injury prone. Uh you know, I
don't know what was going on last I mean this
past season. They still hasn't been disclosed what kind of
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illness that he had. But the fact of the matter
that he wasn't there. But he's the people Christoph KP
is the people's champ. Everybody loves him, not only in
when you go into the garden, but when you on
the road and when he comes out, the people go
crazy for him.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
So I think that you are, you know, Sam Houser, though,
I think those are the contracts that you could look
at and you know, you could try to put something
together and see if you know, if Kadie com if
you're still didn't win mold right now, Jalen Brown, I
don't think that you. I don't think that you get
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rid of Jalen Brown. I don't to me the readon
why I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown because Jason Tatum's not there,
and you have to have that star power there, and
you have to have two star powers, you know, and
I think that I think that that will be like
kind of the way to go. So you have to
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unload some of these other other contracts. I wouldn't get
rid of Dereck White. I wouldn't get rid of Dereck
White at all. He does so much Eddie House.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Of course, Eddie we truly appreciates joining us. He's an
analyst for NBC Sports Boston. We'll see what the Celtics
do we'll watch tonight's NBA Finals game and we'll talk
with them again. Any of the best. Man, really appreciate
you spend some time.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Oh problem man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
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Speaker 1 (29:00):
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for your podcast. Do you guys in terms of drinking? I, Jay,
I know you drink. Dan doesn't drink Sam. Do you
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drink yes excessively at times? Good?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Good?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I'm teasing. Do you what what is your like? You
sit down at a bar, what do you always order?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I usually get a beer maybe, uh, maybe a bump
in a beer, a little boiler maker, a little shot
of a little shot a bourbon with a beer, or
maybe a little tequila shot.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay, Jay, STU. When you sit down at a bar,
what do you order?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So you're just saying that I have some time to
kill and I have uh, I have all the access
to any drink I want at the bar. The first
one I would order. Yep, I'm gonna go Greyhound, Greyhound,
I want vodka, grey Goose, Vodka, grey Goose and grapefruit juice.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right, grapefruit juice?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Isn't that? Is it great? What's great juice?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah? That's the tequila and and grapefruit juice. Plus Quia
is the lion of juice. Okay, yeah, Poloma.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I bring it up. Now, do you guys have the
same drink in the summer as you do the winter?
And part of it is you're in California, so there's
not as big a disparity, But you do same drink
dinner as I mean a winter as you do something.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
When it's cold. I'm gonna go, uh, four fingers of
four fingers of Scotch neat, Frank Sinacho over here, four
fingers Scotch neat.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
The only time I have like a quote unquote winter
at Alcoholic Beverage. Mike Harmon hosts here at FSR. He
makes this stuff, the Sweetish Glug and it's fantastic. You
heat it up on the stove for a minute.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Or two.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Get it warm, put it in a mug, and it's
like wine and brandy and spices, and it is.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It is quite good.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Otherwise, Yeah, it's like it's never really really winter here,
so it's still sticking with a beer.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Okay, I bring it up because I don't know why
this dropped my head. If you've ever had a Pims cup,
Pims is the alcohol, but a Pims cup is a
just a great summer drink. And I'd like, I wanted
to make this summer the summer of the I brought
the Pyms cup to Green Bay, but it's not warm
until like Monday, it's gonna start getting really warm, and
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I just I struggle with my Pins cup. So I'm
suggesting Pim's cup to anybody out there sits down and
and wants to make themselves the summer's drink.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It is Pims originally a gin. It I feel like,
is it big in England?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Pms it is being in England. I don't think it's
I don't think it's a gin. Don't think it's gin.
We'll research. In the meantime, let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's a gin based liqueur gin based. Okay, give me
a pins, I'll take a Pims.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It's definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely a sophisticated sound to ordering
a drink.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Pims.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
All right, what's the game day?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
The game today? On this Friday, Doug is I got
DIBs four topics. We'll see if we get to all four.
We start out talking some hockey Canadian hockey teams that
you would want to win a Stanley Cup. As we
try to get the Cup, I just want it at
least out of the sun Belt, but across the border
would be is great as well. We want Canada to
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win a Cup at least Sam and I do what
Canadian team would you want to see hoist Lord Stanley's
Cup hoist. I got DIBs on the Maple Leafs. I
think I've said this before. It's gonna be very anti
Jason Stewart because would end a drought and misery. But
I'm going with the make beliefs, the mayple lief.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I got DIBs on the Vancouver Canucks because yesterday I
found out what the definition of a Canuck is and
I'm on board. And it's fun to say so Vancouver Canucks,
go get yourself a cup.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
It's just a Canadian, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's a kind of like a playful, sort of a
little bit, a little bit of a crowd.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I don't mean, I'd have to go look at the definition.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
A little derogatory, well, a little dogga.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Two, but also kind of playful. There are other instances
you could compare. Compare that name to.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Okay, I mean I got DIBs on the Montreal Canadian.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Okay, I'm just gonna take DIBs on cal Gowery Calgary.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I like Calgary. What was the really little? It was? Uh?
What was a little? They had a great hockey player
for a long time, but he was tiny. Huh?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Who you said THEO Flurry? Which may be right? I
thought maybe Jerome and Gidlaw Againlaw, I think yeah, I
think you're right. I'm guessing version is THEO Floria. All right,
NBA team you'd want to give a title, This is
all thirty NBA team you'd want to give a title.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
To just give a title, just have them have a title.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yes, you are champions. You are the champions. My friend.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I got DIBs on the Quippers only because I want
to see what happens to this town. When it happens,
I want to see how it's covered. I want to
see if there's any parade, if there's enough fans for
a parade, because I don't think there would be.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
There would be enough fans, but they wouldn't actually be
real fans.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I may regret this, but I got DIBs on the Wizards,
and I say I may regret it because I think
that there's five markets of sports fans that just can
be insufferable, and it's New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, and DC.
And I think it's those.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Five Detroit fans can't be insufferable.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think they're all right. I mean, I just I
don't think that they have the reputation as those other
five markets do. And just enough of the Commanders this
past year was already starting to get my fill. But
the East needs a pickup. I wouldn't want to give
it to the Celtics. I'm not gonna be greedy and
give it to the Bucks. I don't want the Sixers
to have one. Bulls had enough up with the Wizards.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I got the Knicks. DIBs on the Knicks. I'd like
to see a ticker tape parade where ticker tape parades
used to be a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I got dims on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Oh interesting, all right,
Just give me a brief explanation.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Why there's no such thing from Sambago.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Man, I've just started a franchise starred of a championship.
Just ask our guy, Scott Shapiro. Oh that's what I
was going for that. You got it. You nailed the
bet in my head. There it is, kissing up to
the boss. Minnesota sports Men's sports at least needs a
title badly, according to Scott, and he's right.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
All right. Do you guys want to do must watch
player in baseball or famous sports dads that famous sports Okay,
all right, we'll start that one. Famous sports dads. Go,
I got DIBs on Ken Griffy.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Well he was at least he was a player.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean cal Rip, good one. Sam.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Can I have DIBs on avar Ball?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Do you want Caitlyn Clark's dad?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I want I want DIBs on uh LeVar Arrington, who's
turning into a great sports dad. His son's going off
to play football at various universities.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Like Penn State, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
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night and it suddenly became a Hockey Night in America.
Hockey Night in America. It was good. So yeah, we're
gonna start the show talking about the hockey a A
welcome in, don't worry, don't worry. We got some Joe
Flacco talking about TikTok dancing. Eddie House is gonna join us,
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of course, he's the two thousand and eight NBA Championship team.
He was on that Boston team, he played with Lebron.
He's got a couple of sons that are really really
talented players. Plus I just love and value his basketball opinion.
He'll join us at twenty five after the hour, we
got some Jalen Brunston and Josh Hart to talk about.
(01:34):
Mark Stein will join us next hour, so we've got
plenty of hoops. I know Game four US tonight, it
is a pivotal game, and we'll talk about it. But
I I actually like hockey, but I hate this one
big part about hockey. And look, obviously the pieces are
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kind of similar to I know the sport is different,
but there's some similarities there to soccer, and I think
some of the similarities to soccer not as much so
are in this one thing. First again, welcome in. The
US Open is ongoing, and we'll we'll we'll talk about Oakmont.
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I also want to kind of quiz Dan Byron, like
I saw these pictures of the ninety four Open, and
there's now they've made it into this linksy track and
now it's like old golf links golf whatever, whereas before
Oakmont was almost felt like classic American style country club golf,
and I don't know, do we like this better? It's
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this a better way of you took the same course,
but it's completely different now. But last time, I'm watching
the Stanley Cup finals and it sort of dawned on
me as I'm looking at my text thread and watching
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the game take place, that I knew how it was
gonna end, and it was going to be a I
don't know it was a self fulfilling prophecy, or there
would just be there would just be a lot of
confirmation bias in it. Did anyone think that the best
team won last night? That's I guess my question. Do
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you think the best team won? And my answer would be, well, no,
that actually didn't happen. Edmonton's taking on Florida. I thought
Florida was the better team. I thought Florida was the
team that was dominant in overtime, and yet they lose
five to four. Edmonton ties the series into a piece
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and the last three games have all gone to overtime.
But my point is more geez, I thought, you know,
and I don't profess to know much anything about hockey,
and like I'm the track classic American sports fan, ninety
five percent of us didn't play hockey growing up, never
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played hockey on skates like it like. The extent of
my hockey years were the mid nineties ninety three and
ninety four. Specifically, that's when Wayne Gretzky took the Kings
to the Stanley Cup finals, and that's when NHL ninety
four was out and there was also Blades of Steel.
Those are that's the extent of my the deep hockey
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years for me and Buyer, I'm sure you know more
about hockey than I do. Sam. I read your texts
and I agree with you. My issue with hockey is
the randomness at times of how goals are scored in
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many ways takes away from who's actually the better team.
And I get the larger sample size of a season
is different, and ultimately the good teams the good teams.
But when you're in a playoff hockey and everyone who's
a hockey fan loves to have the same narrative, nothing
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better than overtime hockey. But I would say there's lots
of things better than overtime hockey because in other sports again,
and look this happens in football, where a team will dominate,
but they got a turnover here or there, or a
couple of crazy plays can happen some in basketball, where
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you know a team could play very well and you
catch a heater end of the game. He hit a
bunch of threes. It happened with the Pacers going back
to the next series, Game one. But by and large,
if a team is dominant is better for ninety five
percent of overtime, by and large, are gonna win, and
they'll be up so much you know won't matter. Not
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the case with hockey. I think the two things I
dislike about hockey is one hockey fan is the male
version of the WNBA fan. Hey, you haven't paid attentions
for twenty five years, and then when you do pay
attention to us, you don't know what you're talking about.
That's annoying. And then the annoying game action thing is
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I just have a tough time saying that Edmonton was
in any way better than Florida last night, specifically in overtime,
because I thought Florida out played him and then Edmonton
ends up with a goal.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I thought that Edmonton played I mean, they were down
three to nothing, so they obviously played well enough in
the second period to even it up at three, and
then they get the goal to go ahead. I think
Florida played better at the end and then into overtime
that I felt that they had all of the momentum.
But I think that is part of it as well
(06:55):
is as someone who isn't a huge hockey fan and
also can get annoyed by a hockey fan. What I
loved about this overtime and other overtimes. Not only do
ioas Sam and I now have a vested interest in
Edmonton winning, but there's also this balance. There's this balance
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of do you play it safe, do you go for it?
What do you do? And if you go for it,
does that leave you week on the back end if
there's something that leaks out And that's what you got
last night. Florida actually had had a great chance in
overtime to win it and was unable to cash in.
I felt that they put more pressure on Edmonton. Edmonton
really didn't have any good chances and ultimately their goal
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comes on a bit of a fluke play. But it's
also no difference. And this may not change your opinion, Doug,
but we've had hot goalies in the past, right where
teams are just they've got the guy in net and
there's nothing that you can do about it. And I
think that when you have just the the balance, specifically
in overtime of sudden death in her take all, were
(08:01):
every single possession, every almost pass of the puck could
alter the game. I find that very exciting.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Uh, Sam, where are you on? Going off of your
comments that you agree with me? But again Dan made
bigger comments, some having to do with what I'm talking about,
but obviously more thorough in terms of his analysis.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What's your what's your question?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Just like, well, again, when you walk away from last night,
I do you think the better team won? Do you
think that I? And is? And is it? That? Was
it exciting to the point where it's bringing you.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Back, bringing me back to watch the next game?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think this has been I don't know how to
size up these teams, Like I know, Florida is technically
better because they bested the Oilers last year and they
were the favorite coming into this Stanley Cup. All I
know is that, like you know, three of the four
games have been over time have been pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You know, you've got teams winning on the road this
is a good product. I'm not a hockey guy. I
don't I don't know how to size these teams up,
but I know that the Oilers have a couple of
huge stars in Dry Sydle and McDavid and the.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Last night Why did you like last night's game?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I feel like the I feel like the Edmonton Oilers
kind of have this like Pacers kind of energy, like
I'm gonna I'm just pulling for him, and I know
that they're not They're not the better team than than
Oklahoma City, but they find ways to at least tie
up the series or take a lead like the Pacers
did in this in the series. And that's just got me,
got me hooked. I yeah, it's a good It's been
(09:38):
a good fine, a good product.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, Jay Stu, Now again, I'm gonna Jay Stu,
I don't know where you come in on hockey. I mean,
we you and I have talked about it some, but
for for people don't know, Jay Stu was a huge
part of the Jim Rome Show for a long time.
How many years you with with Rome?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Uh? Fourteen years?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Fourteen? It's actually the numb I thought, but I said
it and I was like, is that the right number?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Andy Reid? Andy? Just for listeners who want to want
a reference, my time with Jim Rome mirrored Andy Reid's
time with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Okay, so An you tell me you want to think about, man,
how long will Jess do with Jim Rome? Think Andy
Reid with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's actually very helpful.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I bring it up because and I don't know if
Rome's affinity for hockey was real or just radio creation,
but I will say that you guys talk more hockey
than anybody. I mean, I honestly, my thought, well our
thought always when I was at ESPN Radio was Rome's
talking hockey. Everybody else wins because the second you talk
about hockey, people go, Nick, don't care, right, And you
(10:45):
guys talk hockey some like regular season, early playoffs, not
just Stanley Cup finals. Were you Have you been as
engaged and locked in on hockey even during those fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No. Never.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
It's a sport that has never once with me. I
have good friends that are hockey fans, good friends that
are Kings fans, and they've always said, man, you got
to go. Once you go, you'll be hooked.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I've gone NASCAR Guy says the same thing. By the way,
Nascar guy always goes, you gotta go.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Go, and neither sport got me when I went in
the the premise of your question, did the better team win?
That assumes two things. That assumes I watched, and that
assumes that even if I did watch, I would have
the sophistication to know which team is better. To your point,
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one of the things that turns me off about the
sport is how random it is. Especially this is the
part that really gets me. When there's that the puck
is in front of the goalie and the goalie hasn't
secured it, and everyone is just chopping the hell out
of the ice to hit the puck and then it
goes off the goalie's leg and into the into the goal.
(11:58):
I see zero gill and that. So it's hard for
me to get with stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like that that I completely agree with you on that,
and I normally agree with you on the level of sophistication.
Like it's like when I watch soccer highlights or I
watch halftime of soccer, the analysis is so weird because
they talk about spirit and energy, Like just tell me
who's playing better and why tried to explain me why
something's playing better. I don't know. Last time I was
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watching and I did really agree with Sam. I just
remember looking down at my phone and Sam had just
texted us saying like they're dominating in overtime, and I
was like, yeah, I mean they're not dominating in the score, obviously,
but it does feel like Edmonton is just staving off
(12:44):
losing this thing play after play, just surviving. So I
like the sophistication as well. Jay s Douo and I'm
with you, it's never really resonated. I Alsos thought it
was cool. I'm like, yeah, it's cool sport, it's really hard.
It's just I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know, there there is something, and it's a reason
why we say there's nothing better than playoff hockey, because
you don't get this sense of urgency in the regular season.
And for as much as we may love the five
minutes that they play three on three, still a team
you know, ends up ends up winning and maybe they don't,
and then you just move on to the next game.
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Maybe it's exciting for those five minutes, but there is
something about this urgency, of the sudden death nature of
it where even the goal last night ended up being,
you know, a situation where it was two passes earlier
that probably set up the goal. And I know that's
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not for everybody, but that's to my point of why
every possession or what you do with the puck is
another opportunity to win or lose the game. You may
look at it from a perspective of, well, there are
no goals, just like Game two when they didn't score
any goals in the first overtime, but twenty minutes you
have a back and forth of this game could be
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decided on this sort of play. Honestly, as somebody who
was cheering for Edmonton last night, the first five minutes
of overtime felt like twenty minutes of game time because
it didn't seem like they were in control, and you're
just like, my goodness, when is this going to When
are you gonna be able to do something here? It
felt like Florida had all the chances and all the momentum,
and I remember looking up at the clock and I'm like, wow,
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there's only like five point twenty that's gone by in
this overtime session. Ultimately, from what you guys are saying,
how the game ends is an indicative of how the
end of the game was played, and that's what's frustrating
to you. But I just look at it as like,
if you have a dog in the fight, every single possession,
every single pass that you have could set up that goal.
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And that's what that's what makes it interesting. It's met
it interesting to me with a with a dog in
this fight.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's a fair way to look at it's a fair persective.
But yes, that's ultimately I do sometimes become a result
orienton like I don't I don't understand, and it hurts
my desire to view the sport because I just don't
understand or maybe I do, or say maybe that's that's
that's hockey. It's like we talk about that space.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, here's the funny thing as well. Just quickly, like
as we're having this conversation, we're talking and I'm not
pigging on Sam. I think that this is a this
is a legitimate thing that goes on. We're looking at
Florida as being the halves and Edmonton being the have
nots for what's not happened in hockey. Edmonton is home ice.
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They both were three seeds in their conferences. Edmonton actually
finished with more points this season. They have the best
player in all of hockey. So there are all these
seemingly inherent advantages towards Edmonton that we really don't pay
attention to because we look at the Panthers as the
defending Stanley Cup champs, and we look at Edmonton as
trying to break through with Canada and again Canadian streak. Yeah,
(15:54):
and I think that's awesome. I actually think it's awesome
that it's it's a bit of the opposite. So like
we try compare it to the NBA, that's not necessarily
the case. And I'm talking as a guy that didn't
care about last year's Stanley Cup, even with Edmonton in it.
There is something about this year's that just brought me
in and I have no idea what it was. And
(16:14):
I don't know if it's the NBA and having the
playoffs be how they played out. But my buddy back
in Wisconsin that I visited a couple of weeks ago,
who I never thought would ever watch a hockey game.
We're sitting at Buffalo Wild Wings eating and goes. It's
been really good because I've watched it more than the NBA,
and I found that very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It was a Buffalo wild wings order.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I did a boneless with some honey barbecue, garlic palm,
and I think I did a medium with it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
They have a new they have like a new honey
barbecue ranch or something like all combining ones.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yummy.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
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Speaker 1 (17:03):
The Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. It's the
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But if you're wondering what's going on in Oakmont, Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so buyer,
(17:26):
I was watching I think it was on social media
show the ninety four Open at Oakmont. And it's like
a completely different course, right. It's like someone's like photoshop,
like if you cut out all the trees, what do
you think of transformation of this course?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And it's funny because I was thinking about this driving
in because they were talking about it as I was
listening to the broadcast. And this has been like that
for the last couple of opens, but it's always remains
a story. And it's crazy because it's named Oakmont, you
would think there'd be just tons of oak trees. No,
not the case. But yeah, I don't necessarily can you
call it Oakman if there's no oaks? Right? Something we
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can get into later.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
No, we get into now.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I mean, oh, okay, all right, I'm sorry, house on
hold them.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So no, no, he's we'll get him a second. So
what was the impetus behind the course change? So because
it is a dramatic change, yes, like it's literally from
country club golf to Lynskulf.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So prior to the two thousand and seven US Open,
they wanted to restore Oakmont to what its original layout was,
and that was basically no trees. And the stories they
told telling up to that point is they would sometimes
go out at night to cut the trees down so
membership wouldn't necessarily know that they were cutting trees down.
(18:44):
And after a while, all of a sudden, all these
trees were cut down. You know, wait, like wait a second, hey,
that's missing. But it was to reflect and restore to
what the course was from the beginning from Henry Phones
then Doug. There's also been this move away from more
link style. Trees don't help grass grow. You're seeing a
(19:08):
lot more courses remove trees. It's better for the grass,
it's better for the turf. But this was more to
be true to what Oakmont originally was, and it went
under a recent restoration, which has been the main story
heading into this open where gil Hans took it over
and they've taken parts of the design that the different
(19:28):
designs that have occurred early on in Oakmont days and
tried to blend them into what is this current course.
But it did not have trees in its early going,
and the trees just ended up growing and growing throughout
the years. But that was the initial reason why they
decided to take them down prior to the seven Open.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It is interesting, as you point out, you had so
many different course designers coming in, it becomes you know,
I had no idea that's what it originally was. I
just didn't. But on some levels, when you have multiple
course designers, it's like when you have a really cool house,
It's like, did you have different contractors here? Like, no,
they redid this in Oa and they redid this, and
(20:05):
you know, in fifteen and we just redid this or whatever,
and sometimes you get different tastes, but it is definitely
a linksy style. Now. It definitely looks like the original
game of golf, if you will, and it looks crazy, crazy, difficult.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And there are some that don't like that it doesn't
have trees. And there was even some conversation of this
week that you know, is it too far one way
as opposed to the other, because when you and I
play golf or others play golf, trees do make a difference.
They absolutely do. But I don't know if it's necessarily
needed at Oakmont just because of the defense is how
(20:45):
fast their greens are. When the US Open puts the
rough like this, you're getting scores like this.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All right, let's turn from the US Open to the
NBA Finals. Eddie House won in an NBA championship in
two thousand and eight. Dude is awesome breaking it down
TV Radio joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Eddie, what's what's your what's your
EVL of what's going? What went wrong for the thunder
(21:14):
in the fourth quarter in Game three?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
I think, uh, just Rick Carlisle his the way he
uh changes defenders on Shay, so Shay has to face
you know, say is so talented, you know, obviously the
league MVP. But I think what happened was picking him
up ninety four feet wearing him down. And I think
(21:39):
what okay C needs to do is make an adjustment.
And that's what I'm looking for tonight, to see what
kind of adjustment uh daggonof is gonna make as far
as because what I would do, I would take Shaye
off the ball. I would not allow him until the
fourth quarter. I wouldn't have him bring the ball up.
(22:00):
You know, I will have him get the ball with
a live dribble as opposed to having to bring the
ball up and have to fight ninety four feet to
get to his spot and then everybody else just standing around. No,
I will run my offense through somebody else. Jalen Williams
has to step up and then from there in the
(22:21):
fourth quarter, state could go to work. You just want
to try to conserve is as much energy for him
as you can.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, do you think they're tired? Do you think that's
one of the things hurting the thunder?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
No?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Man? No, Yeah, A young young man they're not tired. Man,
You remember how you was when you was twenty six
twenty seven, or you was twenty three twenty four, You
wasn't You didn't get tired and you wanted to play.
I don't think that they're tired. I think that you
can wear on somebody, you know what I mean, and
you can make it where you're uncomfortable, and I don't
(22:55):
think more so than being tired. I think Shay this
was uncomfortable the whole time because he's usually able to
just get to a spot moved easily, but they made
him have to work for everything. So I won't buy
the tiredness because you know, anybody that won a championship,
(23:16):
anybody that played in the playoffs, anybody has that long run.
You all go through it, but especially if when you
in the finals. Man, there's no uh, you can't use
that as a crutch or.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Excuse hey, help me out, Eddie. Can you figure out
Tyre's Haliburton. There's some games that he plays where he
just kind of plays and floats and doesn't have a
huge impact, and then there are other games in which
he feels way more aggressive and he does have a
huge impact. I know it's just kind of unique. What
are your thoughts on Halliburton and why some games he's
(23:52):
just not he's just not dominating in any way.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Well, he does in different ways. Right as far as assistance, right,
he always his assist numbers are always pretty much up.
I think the fact of the matter is that he
has to be aggressive offensively. And sometimes it's a traditional
point guard. You're a traditional point guard. You played that position.
(24:18):
So sometimes you're not going to have a high you're
not gonna have a lot of points in certain games.
But then you got to understand that that happy medium,
you know what I mean, where you're like, Okay, I
have to be more aggressive and this series, and that's
the thing about it. Every series is different, every game
is every quarter is different, every half is different, every
(24:41):
game is different. And I believe that he understands that
he has to put his foot on the gas for
them to be for them to win. And it's and
being aggressive. You know, people mix it up when when
when we say be aggressive, that doesn't necessarily mean that
you have to the ball all the time. That means
(25:02):
just put pressure and be aggressive and you can make
the right play, whether it be a play for yourself
or a play for others. That's what I when I
say aggressive, you know, and a lot of people think
about aggressiveness is oh, you just got to go score,
You got to get up thirty shots. And now sometimes
you don't have to do that. Sometimes you don't.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Eddie House, our guest. You're at the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's uh, well, let's
get around the NBA just a little bit. Kevin Durant.
Everybody thinks he's gonna be traded. Where's the best spot
for him?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Man, you know it's it's a lot of good destinations
for him. If I was okay, see, even though they're
in this thing right now, they got a ton of
assets as far as draft picks and things like that.
And if you trade a guy like KD, then you're
looking to basically rebuild, you know, if you're a phoenix.
(25:58):
So I will, okay, see, would be somebody that I
will be interested in. I'm not sure what everything that
the Rockets have over there, what they can make happen,
but they're red, they're ready made right now to keep
trying to push I think maybe Jalen Green and do
you want to get off a youngster that that fast.
(26:20):
I don't know, you know what I mean for somebody
that's old improving older, I should say improving. Uh so
I would say it would be I think it would
be a happy marriage between okay see and uh for
him to go back to ok se.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Uh. I do too. I just again, we're it feels
like if he's going to be traded now or if
the discuss her now, I don't know if And again
I don't know if Okac is in that mode, but yeah,
they do need they need a guy who win the
house is on fires, like I got it. I'll get
us a bucket. We're good. They just don't don't have that.
(27:00):
If if you're the Celtics.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
What do you do, Well, you got to look at uh,
you know, a Drew Holliday contract. You got to look
at a Christaps Porzingis, who has you know, shown that
he's been you know, injury prone. Uh you know, I
don't know what was going on last I mean this
past season. They still hasn't been disclosed what kind of
(27:25):
illness that he had. But the fact of the matter
that he wasn't there. But he's the people Christoph KP
is the people's champ. Everybody loves him, not only in
when you go into the garden, but when you on
the road and when he comes out, the people go
crazy for him.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
So I think that you are, you know, Sam Houser, though,
I think those are the contracts that you could look
at and you know, you could try to put something
together and see if you know, if Kadie com if
you're still didn't win mold right now, Jalen Brown, I
don't think that you. I don't think that you get
(28:07):
rid of Jalen Brown. I don't to me the readon
why I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown because Jason Tatum's not there,
and you have to have that star power there, and
you have to have two star powers, you know, and
I think that I think that that will be like
kind of the way to go. So you have to
(28:29):
unload some of these other other contracts. I wouldn't get
rid of Dereck White. I wouldn't get rid of Dereck
White at all. He does so much Eddie House.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Of course, Eddie we truly appreciates joining us. He's an
analyst for NBC Sports Boston. We'll see what the Celtics
do we'll watch tonight's NBA Finals game and we'll talk
with them again. Any of the best. Man, really appreciate
you spend some time.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Oh problem man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
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for your podcast. Do you guys in terms of drinking? I, Jay,
I know you drink. Dan doesn't drink Sam. Do you
(29:24):
drink yes excessively at times? Good?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Good?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I'm teasing. Do you what what is your like? You
sit down at a bar, what do you always order?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I usually get a beer maybe, uh, maybe a bump
in a beer, a little boiler maker, a little shot
of a little shot a bourbon with a beer, or
maybe a little tequila shot.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay, Jay, STU. When you sit down at a bar,
what do you order?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So you're just saying that I have some time to
kill and I have uh, I have all the access
to any drink I want at the bar. The first
one I would order. Yep, I'm gonna go Greyhound, Greyhound,
I want vodka, grey Goose, Vodka, grey Goose and grapefruit juice.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right, grapefruit juice?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Isn't that? Is it great? What's great juice?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah? That's the tequila and and grapefruit juice. Plus Quia
is the lion of juice. Okay, yeah, Poloma.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I bring it up. Now, do you guys have the
same drink in the summer as you do the winter?
And part of it is you're in California, so there's
not as big a disparity, But you do same drink
dinner as I mean a winter as you do something.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
When it's cold. I'm gonna go, uh, four fingers of
four fingers of Scotch neat, Frank Sinacho over here, four
fingers Scotch neat.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
The only time I have like a quote unquote winter
at Alcoholic Beverage. Mike Harmon hosts here at FSR. He
makes this stuff, the Sweetish Glug and it's fantastic. You
heat it up on the stove for a minute.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Or two.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Get it warm, put it in a mug, and it's
like wine and brandy and spices, and it is.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It is quite good.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Otherwise, Yeah, it's like it's never really really winter here,
so it's still sticking with a beer.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Okay, I bring it up because I don't know why
this dropped my head. If you've ever had a Pims cup,
Pims is the alcohol, but a Pims cup is a
just a great summer drink. And I'd like, I wanted
to make this summer the summer of the I brought
the Pyms cup to Green Bay, but it's not warm
until like Monday, it's gonna start getting really warm, and
(31:34):
I just I struggle with my Pins cup. So I'm
suggesting Pim's cup to anybody out there sits down and
and wants to make themselves the summer's drink.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It is Pims originally a gin. It I feel like,
is it big in England?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Pms it is being in England. I don't think it's
I don't think it's a gin. Don't think it's gin.
We'll research. In the meantime, let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's a gin based liqueur gin based. Okay, give me
a pins, I'll take a Pims.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It's definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely a sophisticated sound to ordering
a drink.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Pims.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
All right, what's the game day?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
The game today? On this Friday, Doug is I got
DIBs four topics. We'll see if we get to all four.
We start out talking some hockey Canadian hockey teams that
you would want to win a Stanley Cup. As we
try to get the Cup, I just want it at
least out of the sun Belt, but across the border
would be is great as well. We want Canada to
(32:46):
win a Cup at least Sam and I do what
Canadian team would you want to see hoist Lord Stanley's
Cup hoist. I got DIBs on the Maple Leafs. I
think I've said this before. It's gonna be very anti
Jason Stewart because would end a drought and misery. But
I'm going with the make beliefs, the mayple lief.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I got DIBs on the Vancouver Canucks because yesterday I
found out what the definition of a Canuck is and
I'm on board. And it's fun to say so Vancouver Canucks,
go get yourself a cup.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
It's just a Canadian, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's a kind of like a playful, sort of a
little bit, a little bit of a crowd.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I don't mean, I'd have to go look at the definition.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
A little derogatory, well, a little dogga.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Two, but also kind of playful. There are other instances
you could compare. Compare that name to.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Okay, I mean I got DIBs on the Montreal Canadian.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Okay, I'm just gonna take DIBs on cal Gowery Calgary.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I like Calgary. What was the really little? It was? Uh?
What was a little? They had a great hockey player
for a long time, but he was tiny. Huh?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Who you said THEO Flurry? Which may be right? I
thought maybe Jerome and Gidlaw Againlaw, I think yeah, I
think you're right. I'm guessing version is THEO Floria. All right,
NBA team you'd want to give a title, This is
all thirty NBA team you'd want to give a title.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
To just give a title, just have them have a title.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yes, you are champions. You are the champions. My friend.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I got DIBs on the Quippers only because I want
to see what happens to this town. When it happens,
I want to see how it's covered. I want to
see if there's any parade, if there's enough fans for
a parade, because I don't think there would be.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
There would be enough fans, but they wouldn't actually be
real fans.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I may regret this, but I got DIBs on the Wizards,
and I say I may regret it because I think
that there's five markets of sports fans that just can
be insufferable, and it's New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, and DC.
And I think it's those.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Five Detroit fans can't be insufferable.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think they're all right. I mean, I just I
don't think that they have the reputation as those other
five markets do. And just enough of the Commanders this
past year was already starting to get my fill. But
the East needs a pickup. I wouldn't want to give
it to the Celtics. I'm not gonna be greedy and
give it to the Bucks. I don't want the Sixers
to have one. Bulls had enough up with the Wizards.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I got the Knicks. DIBs on the Knicks. I'd like
to see a ticker tape parade where ticker tape parades
used to be a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I got dims on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Oh interesting, all right,
Just give me a brief explanation.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Why there's no such thing from Sambago.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Man, I've just started a franchise starred of a championship.
Just ask our guy, Scott Shapiro. Oh that's what I
was going for that. You got it. You nailed the
bet in my head. There it is, kissing up to
the boss. Minnesota sports Men's sports at least needs a
title badly, according to Scott, and he's right.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
All right. Do you guys want to do must watch
player in baseball or famous sports dads that famous sports Okay,
all right, we'll start that one. Famous sports dads. Go,
I got DIBs on Ken Griffy.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Well he was at least he was a player.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean cal Rip, good one. Sam.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Can I have DIBs on avar Ball?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Do you want Caitlyn Clark's dad?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I want I want DIBs on uh LeVar Arrington, who's
turning into a great sports dad. His son's going off
to play football at various universities.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Like Penn State, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We'll talk about NBA Finals next. The Doug Got Michell
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