April 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Live from the site of the NFL Draft, Doug talks about what makes this draft different that previous years. Doug weighs in on the Shannon Sharpe story. Doug welcomes former NBA Player and FSR NBA Analyst Ryan Hollins onto the show to discuss the Rockets, Cavs and all of the other major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
Welcome in.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So a quick update on the weather right because yesterday
was all things spring and you know, Jay Stu, you
don't understand what spring's like because you live in southern California.
You have your whole life, okay, But to people who
lived outside, like spring is right, April showers bring mayflowers.
You woke up it was pouring rain most of the day,
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it was overcast, and the afternoon evening were absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Got up to like seventy four seventy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Five degrees today, overcast all day, supposed to be clearing
up in the afternoon to sixty degrees and then it'll
be cool tonight, but no rain in the forecast. Then
it's gonna rain early in the morning and then.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A beautiful weekend. So fears of snow because there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Have been snowstorms in April in this part of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No snow.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
There will be rain, just not during the draft unless
the draft cos till five am, at which point in
time I think.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And then you have kind of the interesting makeup, not
just of having it outside outside Lambeau, the traveling circus
that is the NFL Draft, but then you have the
fact that the Packers they don't draft until what the
twenty third pick, And among the things that are asked
constantly if you live anywhere in Wisconsin or if you
walk around with the Packers fans, will they draft a
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wide receiver? And of course yesterday's rumor of George Pickens
potentially being traded to the Packers only reinvigorated that conversation. Right,
do you trade for George Pickens a second round pick
and then you don't have to draft a wide receiver
in the first round.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We shall see.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I think the most interesting part of this draft,
and again this is just me, a guy who's covered
more obviously the NFL drafts throughout my twenty five years
of doing radio. But think of how much things are different.
You know how much things are different, And you know,
when you're coaching a college basketball team, people ask all
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the time like you're getting into the college basketball and
everybody else is getting out. Well, my thing is, it's
not that different for me because I wasn't a college
basketball coach the last twenty five years, I covered the game,
I played the game, my brother coached the game, but
I didn't experience what recruiting used to be like. So
comparing it to now is not that big a deal.
But we've all watched this NFL draft evolved into where
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you know, just even the thought of taking it on
the road, would it work. It's been a stunning success.
But do we realize how much college football has changed
in just the last twelve months, but especially in the
last five years, right, because you have guys that had
this is the last year supposedly of the co COVID
year senior rule, So a lot of teams were able
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to compete against higher level of competition because you had
twenty four, twenty five, sometimes twenty six year old guys competing.
And it's not we're not talking about BYU and people
went on a Mormon mission that this was fairly commonplace
in college football, guys playing in their fifth and sixth year.
So you had COVID year guys still existing in college football.
You've had the transfer portal, which let's not blame the
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transfer portal. It's the fact that there are no rules
that make you sit out a year when you transfer,
so guys are at multiple schools, sometimes two, three, four,
even five.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Or six schools.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Additionally, the Power five conferences became Power four this year,
and there's been a massive shift in the level of
competition in the SEC, in Big Ten in comparison.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
To the ACC.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Right, the ACC SMU was in the College Football Playoffs,
two teams repping the ACC SMU. That doesn't mean that
they weren't a good team, but they didn't have elite talent.
But the only reason they got there was had a
bunch of money, threw it up money through money at guys,
and had better talent than the rest of the ACC
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which was kind of financially deprived in comparison to the
SEC and the Big Ten, the Big Twelve, the SEC,
and the Big Ten all changed their leagues and in
many ways expanded the number of power for sorts of teams.
That's a change. And we had the first ever true
college football Playoff this year. We had an expanded field,
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not just four teams, had twelve teams. So that changed
what we watched, how we watched, and when we paid
attention and what we paid attention to.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So if you have that much upheaval.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
In the same sport and at the level that feeds
your sport. In the NFL draft, there is very very
likely to be that much upheaval in the NFL draft.
Does that Does that make sense? And if you're like
that doesn't really affect the NFL, oh really, really, just
do yourself a favor and look back at last year's
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NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Caleb Williams was a transfer from Oklahoma to USC. Jaden
Daniels was a transfer from Arizona State to LSU. Now,
Drake may wasn't a transfer, but he played at at
at Drake.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I mean at Drake.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Excuse mean Drake may have played at at North Carolina.
Michael Pennix junior was at Washington. He was a transfer,
having played previously in Indiana. Last year was a quarterback draft,
but part of the bow Knicks transfer from Auburn. Those
guys had played three or four years at their previous
spot and had transferred, so they were older, so we
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could go through the whole draft. But the idea that, hey,
this is a weird raft just because there's not a
ton of quarterbacks that will go in the first round
and there's one running back. How high will he go
and we don't know a lot of these non skill
position players, Like, yeah, all that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Is true, but you can't deny.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And if you do deny, you're just blind to the
reality of what's changing college footall. If college football changes
as much as it has COVID to your seniors, expansion
of the Big Ten, expansion of the SEC, plus the ACC,
there's been kind of a talent void in the ACC.
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Then you factor in that a college fall playoff changes
what we watch, how we watched, what's important, how much
teams can develop guys. And then the last factor is
players are staying in school longer. They just are Why
would you leave? I mean, look, I'll just say this
about my star players got named Anthony Roy, and Anthony
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Roy desperately wanted to in the NBA draft.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Desperately want to go in the NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But my messaging to him and he just signed with
with Oklahoma State with Miama Mater, was hey, dude, that's
always there for you. But once you leave college, the
college money isn't here for you anymore. You can't go
to the NBA get cut, Like you know what, I
want to try college again?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Doesn't work?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And what we told him, which is accurate, is you
are guaranteed to make probably two x of what you
would make if you're a second round pick in the
NBA draft. If you stay in college, you're an idiot
if you go, and you risk losing that when the
NFL or the NBA is always there for you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So why is the NFL draft different this year?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, if you are underclassmen, because if you have any
eligibility and you can get paid, you stay and get paid.
In college football, the landscape has changed in terms of
what teams are important and what teams have money, and
that's where all the teams that have players and like. Again,
here's another part to the transfer portal, which is teams
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are new teams every year, completely new rosters. So the
first three or four games of the year, the stats
aren't necessarily accurate because coaches are trying to figure out
their rosters because they may or may not have spring games.
All that causes a different style of draft that we
haven't seen before. Fewer underclassmen in this case, the quarterback
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market is not great, and generally older players, but ones
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Speaker 2 (09:52):
I really liked.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yesterday's show by the Way Jays two, especially we shared
our favorite memories of first rounds in the NFL. It
is kind of a downer that the Titans are the
number one pick, right, I get the Titans used to
be the Oilers, but it just it still seems like
a very random team to have the number one overall pick, Like,
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how much more interest would there be in this draft
if the Giants draft number one overall or the Patriots
draft number one overall or the Raiders draft of bornival.
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Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I do think we got to talk about the Shannon
Sharp thing at some point. Uh, we'll get into that
in game time when we bring in the lovely Montcy Belagas.
The clefand Cavaliers are up two games and none on
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This is there.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
One of their stars are guard Darius Garland. He was
asked after the game about their game plan and how
they've been able to go up two games to none.
Take a listen, Miami's been really good at turning teams over.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But the first two games, you guys have really hold
on to it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What's the key to playing clean basketball like that against a.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Team with that?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Pick on Tyler Hero and take care of theble, don't
play in tight spaces, can't pick on their weak defenders,
go at them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, pick on Tyler Hero. I mean, by the way,
Tyler Hero from Wisconsin. It's a but there's a I mean,
that's the level of honesty.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It'll go down as billboard material.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's not a secret. Watch the game, that's what they do.
But saying the quiet part out loud is kind of fascinating. Hey, Like,
Tyler Heerroo couldn't guard the chair I'm sitting on right.
You almost feel like Darius Carland's gonna break that out next.
What's the key to beat my meat, pick on Tyler Hero,
pick on their board defenders, and pick on Tayler Hero.
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Did I mention Tyler Hero as a board defender? I
think I did. Let's get the Monci Beloga. Just get
a quick update mons what he got. Oh months, he's
getting a little trouble with her her microphone. Hey, I
wanted Chase, do I want to ask you? Okay, So
here's the latest statement. This is from Shannon Sharp. Right,
I think I don't necessarily believe I have to I
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have to rehash the story, right, Chase, du do you
think we need to rehash the entirety of the story
with with In regards to Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I think, according to basic radio fundamentals, you do. But okay,
if you choose not to, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So Shannon Sharp was suit for fifty million dollars. Like again,
it's been There have been a lot of Shannon Sharp
here this last week. And I'll defend myself in one
second as part of it. So Shannon has his club
Chase a podcast, and if it's been successful, then there
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was a story out that he was going to his
contract was up with Collins Podcast. Sorry, that's the Volume
podcast network. And when it's up he could get up
to one hundred million dollars to bring his club Shay
Shape podcast over somewhere else. Two days later, and I
believe it was Monday of this week because that story
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came out late last weekend. Last weekend, so Monday of
this week.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He was being sued for fifty million dollars for alleged
sexual assault. So then Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He published a video saying it was consensual and anything
that comes out, including a sex tape, is edited. Then
there are two different audio conversations, which, by the way,
are two of the most boring phone calls you're ever
going to hear. Right, boring phone calls you're ever going
to hear, Like people say they say two words to
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each other and then long pregnant pause, then two words
to each other, long pregnant pause.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's one of those.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I can't believe if you're some on the phone with
somebody and you don't have anything to say, why are
you on the phone with somebody?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I thought the weirdest part was Larry Davis's, who's Shannon's lawyer,
said that they tried to settle this for tens of
millions of dollars and she turned it down. Why is
Larry Davis admitting that they tried to settle this thing
for tens of millions of dollars while at the same
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time proclaiming it proclaiming his innocence.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, that one's weird.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And then this about an hour ago from from Shannon Sharp.
My statement is found here, and this is the truth.
The relationship in question was one hundred percent consensual at
this juncture. I'm electing to step aside temporarily for my
ESPN duties. I'm devoting this time to my family and
responding and dealing with the false and disruptive allegations set again.
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I plan to return to ESPN the start of the
NFL preseason. I sincerely appreciate the overwhelming and ongoing support
I've received from my family, friends, and colleagues. Shannon Sharp, Jacet,
You've been doing this a long time. Does he return
to ESPN?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I don't believe so. I don't believe Disney. I don't
believe Disney lets him back because I said this after
the Trevor Bauer thing. He'll never picture the Dodgers again
because of the things that he's admitted to, whether it's
consensual or not. The details themselves are pretty horrific if
you are the run on the mill, you know, Midwest
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family man. So I don't think he goes back to Disney,
that's my guest.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I again, I just think it's so interesting, you know,
it's it's really interesting, and part of me is like, dude,
Tony Busby, he does have another guy in his cross hairs.
Here's where I woke up this and Jay sees tell
me if.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
This makes sense to you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, Dan Patrick was talking about whether any publicity
was good publicity with me in regards to Green Bay basketball,
and the answer is not all publicity is good publicity.
This is clearly not good publicity, right, But that was
kind of my point with Dan, and maybe I didn't
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make it clear enough, was like, what is bad publicity
that we lost basketball games?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Like, that's not bad publicity.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It was a bad publicity that Lebron is trolling me
and tweeting at me because I said I didn't think
his son was an NBA player, Like, again, that's not
really bad publicity.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is bad publicity.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Anytime you're talking about your sex life with a woman
who is almost forty years it's forty years or thirty
years younger than you, thirty years younger than you, and
some of the other things that are discussed, and you're
talking about choking woman like that is bad publicity. No,
all publicity is not goog This is bad publicity. But
I would also point out that this is bad not
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anything about my team losing games. As Babyblisty steut Gottlieb
show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Ryan Hollands joints us
Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst. He played ten years in
the NBA, and Ryan, I love Darius Garland saying in
the quiet part out loud, Hey, what's your what's what's
the what's the game plan that she has allowed you
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guys succeed?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
He's like, attack Tayler Hero.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Go at the week Defenders, attack Tayler Hero. Is it
really that simple when when you're talking about game plans
getting ready for NBA playoff games like you played that.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
It is And it's also a sign of respect when
you have a guy that is a main portion of
the offense. Here's the thing for Houston where maybe not
our guys are maybe not that advanced offensively, but the
game plan is that's that Curry. Now make no Mistafe
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Curry has improved significantly on the defensive end, and you
know those are the steps that he had to make.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But when you get into the playoffs and.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
There's a week link out there, you find that week link.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And you abuse it.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And against a guy like Hero, sometimes the best defense
on him is your offense, making him work, taking his
legs away.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What's wrong with the Bucks?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well, first off, Damian Lillard, you know with the blood clop,
that's an issue. Before that, you know, you fire your
head coach and you're still trying to find a way.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And I haven't heard this from anybody, but I know
from my time of playing in the NBA being a
leader isn't easy.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
And there's hints that you get from Gianni's having one
foot in and one foot out, or you know.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Maybe not thinking things would be as simple as they are.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
But when you're in a position as a great player
and you have to lead in organizations, you got to
rolly the troops behind you. Those expectations are different versus
just coming out playing hard and doing your job. When
the guys in that locker room know that you have
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decisions that can be made to have somebody on the
team or not that responsibility is different. So when they
look at Lebron James and you criticize Lebron and Lebron
you know, legms, those comments, those things come out. Lebron
is delivered a championship wearing those shoes, and it's hard
shoes to still when someone just trading or something happens.
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So they're going to come at you, and that's the
way they're looking at Yannis. So I'm not saying that's
why they're losing, but that leadership role along with success
is a lot different.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Dougs, I agree with you have he is the head
that wears a crown is the Shakespeare expression. Ryan Holmes,
our guest ten years in the NBA, covers Rockets games
throughout the year for the Houston Rockets, and of course
he also is our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Jimmy Butler goes down and so too to the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But the Warriors, did you know complete the task that
everybody says, Hey, let's just go get a split when
we're on the road. What's your sense of that series
as it heads back to San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Man, For one, you saw this, you just said it.
You saw this coming from a mile away. Steve Turtan
was gonna pump the games.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
You got to understand from the Warriors standpoint, as soon
as they got Jimmy Butler, they had to work so
hard just to get into the playoffs. They they had
bumps and bruises to get to this point. And ultimately
e May knew that, so May said, we're young. I
don't want to say young and dumb, but our guys
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they're going and inexperienced to try to find their ways.
So you know what if maybe we lose game one
because our guys hadn't seen it, well, we're taking a
pound of flesh with us.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
And they went after.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Golden stags and stee Kerr made his mind up that
he's gonna play Jimmy forty minutes.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's getting thirty five.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Jonathan Comenda's not gonna stand gonna get substantial minutes. And
ultimately the lack of development with Jonathan Kamenda is coming
back to bite the Warriors and the lack of trust
because Jimmy walked off the floor.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Is there a chance that Jimmy could have played? Do
I stepped them to play? Absolutely? But they's a.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Factor where it just wasn't worth it, and the body
said no. On top of that, on top of that foul,
You know what, Doug, you fall in your telebone, battles
up your spine. But Jimmy probably steps into that game
banged up and injured.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Lightly with Draymond and lightly with Curry.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
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ten years in the league. Covers the Rockets and the
rest of the NBA of local TV and nationally here
on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get to the Lakers. Game one.
They can't guard Minnesota couldn't guard him. Game two more physical, right,
and obviously the Timberwlves don't make I don't know what
they made twenty one threes in the first game, but
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the Timberwlves did get one out of two. Give me
your sense is this? As this series resets and gets
back to the twin Cities. What your thoughts are on
this matchup. Now that we've seen both teams play, the
teams play twice.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I think the chess match is gonna start. And we
knew Doug. The challenge for the Lakers was entered, like,
if you're playing against Luca and Lebron.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
And Luca Luca may still be a worse athlete than
a forty year old Lebron energy wise on both ends.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
But you're going to beat the Lakers with your energy. Now. Ultimately,
Minnesota has this series in hand if they can take
care of too at home.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
But I'm not going to be surprised if Luca Doncon
slays his best game as a Laker, and hear me
when I say this on the road up in Minnesota,
and those guys go and take care of business.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I love Anthony Edwards, I genuinely do. But when he
learns how to really play the game of basketball and
slow down and play with pace, and how to attack
defenses and learn the reads that teams are given him,
is going.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
To be unstoppable. It's just not there yet at this
stage in his career. Now, a guy who could really
flip the series from Minnesota could be Julius Randall. But ultimately,
right now, I don't think that Minnesota has enough, and
I do think the Lakers probably take one.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I think it ends up being seven.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
But I think that ultimately you're gonna see the experience
of Luca and Lebron play out. This thing is gonna
slow down. They're gonna walk the ball up the floor. Dog,
And I do think that la makes the game very
physical and they end up taking it.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So you like the Lakers to win playing physical on
the road. I've just you know, it's so weird, Ryan,
You watch these series. You watch game one and then
you watch game two, and it looks like completely different teams,
completely different matchups. What about the Clippers and Denver? I mean,
I like you, and I know how good Kawhi is,
but now we're playing, we're watching Pete Kawhi. They return home,
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they get two against against Denver, and Denver's been kind
of a mess. Can the Clippers actually close out the series?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can they win?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Maybe? I can they? Will they win this series?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Doug?
Speaker 7 (25:02):
It was scary outside of my rockets. They may come
out the West, and the reason we're all kind of
dumbfound and tell me if I'm wrong. Kawhi looks like
the darn best player on the planet.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
See he looks so good. It was almost like, okay.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Guys, I posted in game one, I was gonna fill
it out.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
You need to take over mode.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
I still have that in the bag and I can
do it now. We've been here before, Doug. Kawhi Leonard
plays unbelievable. You get news after the game that he's
done for the season, so hopefully that doesn't happen. But
with him being who he is, and the lack of
defense in Denver without fight Malone and just probably age
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and not able to retool defensively off their bench.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I like the Clippers the way Zubox is played. I
like the Clippers.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
They have enough. It's a tough matchup and that series
is one that everyone may not be looking at that
he just says, oh my God, like like some really
good basketball that we're seeing being played. And it's only
the first round, but just the Western Conference is loaded.
But I think Kawhai coming back and shocked all of us.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Done.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
God was supposed to be slowing down, missing a step.
I'm wondering what his physical therapist has him doing. Dub
Maybe we should take some fits from them. But but
why Leonard is really looking unbelievable. When we saw him
a week.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Before the playoffs started, our guys went down there and
played him and he did the same thing.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
You know, he still has those furts where he can
like he can just truly take over.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, he's he looks awesome. And I'm a big Tyler guy.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I think Tyler's as good as any any coacher is
in the NBA. Anybody beating Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Oh yes, it's all about matchup, Doug. So for Houston.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
The reason Houston would match up well with Oklahomas why
because they have the use They can pound them inside.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
They've got two bigs that can attack chet Holmgren and.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
The energy to keep up. One thing that you're going
to see, Doug, is the playoffs go on. It's a
ballad nutrition. Some of these older players aren't going to
be able to make it through. Oklahoma City is much better,
much more experienced than they were a year ago. They
still have their work cutout at the end of the day.
Shay is unbelievable, There's no question there. But I think
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their holes, but you have to find them right or
excuse me, better yet wrong matchup for Oklahoma City, and
it's going to have to be a team that has
some juice inside.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah's I guess the only way to beat him is
to beat them up inside. I just don't know outside
of Denver if that, if that team exists, and I
don't know if Denver has the depths to beat them
in the playoffs either. And I don't know, like you,
if Denver is even going to survive survive the LA Clippers,
so he even knows, well, then let me.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Say this to you, Doug, oddly enough is huge in
Houston's toughest matchup is probably right now against Golden State.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Sure, I don't think they would have problems, and it
may sound a wild Houston gets Oklahoma City, They're going
to be very comfortable in that matchup. And it's just
the way matchups work in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, no question it is.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
The playoffs are about matchups as well as about health,
and the Rockets have health right now. We'll see if
they get out of this matchup into a more favorable one.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Ryan Hollins, of course, covers games.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
For the Houston Rockets all year, and he's our Fox
Sports Radio NBA analyst.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ryan thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Any dog.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
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Speaker 1 (28:45):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Live in Green May, Wisconsin,
side of the NFL Draft at the bar on Home Green.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
One guy yelling there we go a little bit better,
a little bit better ish.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That was that was disturbing. Yeah, we're Team minus a
couple hours away. I I by the way, I love
the I love the lies that are put out there
through through the media. Right It's like, oh, hey, George
Pickens could be on his way to Green Bay. If
you know who, if you know who reports that, you
know exactly what that what you feel like that's about? Hey, Jase,
(29:26):
do you tell me if I'm wrong? Who who reported
the George Pickens start.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
It sounds like something that the agent for George Pickens
would do.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, because George Pickens knows they don't want him
there and he doesn't want to be there. Like I
just again a guy. I could be way off. It
could be way off. But if you evaluate the Packers, though,
everyone seems to feel like they need a number one
wide receiver. George Pickens pouting act over getting the ball,
(29:59):
not getting ball doesn't feel like it'll jibe with how
how the Packers like to go and get their players.
Does he feel like a Green Bay Packer and he answers,
I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I gotta think that the whole thinking with with, you know,
bringing in another star wide receiver and having George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's where you gotta have an Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You got to have a guy who has a big
enough rep personality to go shut up and just go play.
I don't think Jordan Love is that guy. So I
feel like that one is a leak from the agent
trying to get him to a good spot, and that
good spot would be Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Let's get to a good spot. Let's get to month
syblamgnos with the game.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Mont's what's
the game today?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Well, it is Thursday, so we are going to be
I feel a draft, are going to be drafted.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I like that there's not going on there.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You hear zipper sounds and people think that it's like
the fly of somebody's pants.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yes, immediately supposed to be like the zipper of a tent.
Is that right, Sam?
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Is that what your jacket? You're cool? I a bundle
up like you're in Green Bay for April.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I don't know how many people think.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That first sounds like bargo. Don't you know?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
That also is a little Estelle Castanza in there, just
for Stell Castanza.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well, that's when you know you're getting old, right.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
When you feel a draft fast.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yet Well, when you're sitting in a restaurant and you
can play complain about it being drafted.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, absolutely, that's like.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
My mom is Just listen, Doug, listen to this exchange
between Frankestans and Estelle.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
This is just sums up what it's like being an
old person. I feel a draft change.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We have a boat.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Well, just order hot dish, babe filmournes booth.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
All right, guys, well we're doing a draft. Let's go.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Yes, we're gonna be drafting players that we are looking
forward to the most.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
To see what they can do.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
In the NFL with the draft starting in less than
five hours, So we are going to draft in a
snake order.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
It's gonna start with you, coach.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Then me Sam Jason, and then snake back around and
it ends with you, Doug.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
All right, coach, but you're starting an ending, so go
you're on the clock, just like the draft.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Travis Hunter.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Yeah, that's easy.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Well, I mean, I think there's only two guys that
you really really want to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean there's two. Travis Hunt. Hunter is one. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Like I'll say problem with Travis The problem with Travis
Hunter is he's much more likely to be a defensive
guy than an offensive guy. But I think they're gonna
acquiesce and let him return kicks, let him do some
offensive stuff, especially in the first contract.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I'll go with Travis Hunter. That one's easier.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
All right, Yeah, I'm with you. I think the two
obvious ones you took the first one. I'm going to
take Ashton genty in at number two, especially with this
statement of like, you know, draft the guy that people
can't tackle.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
It's tackle football. Draft the guy that people can't tackle.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I want to see what that running back actually does
in the NFL. All right, Sam with the third pick.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And I feel a draft pick and the duck out
show draft.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I should have traded up. I should have trade up
because I wanted to draft. I'm going to be selecting
what appears to be the most prolific tight end in
Big ten history, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
He was on my board is number three.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
He caught everything thrown his way.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
You know, the tight end has been really celebrated the
last ten years or so, ten to fifteen years in
the NFL. This guy could be like you know, you
hear of Iowa's being tight end. You with this guy
could be the next big stud in the NFL. Tyler
Warren is who I am drafting third overall out of
Penn State?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Nice?
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I could we do? Jalen Nol wrote, take him off
the board? Is it going to be more Anthony Daniels?
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Is that his name? Anthony Daniels, Anthony Richardson, Anthony.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Richardson or Daniels for the.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Richardson or more Daniels?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, who's your second pick?
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I like, I'm gonna make this analogy.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
I don't know if everybody's gonna get this, but my
Edgerrin James of this draft for people that don't know.
In nineteen ninety nine, the Saints moved Hills and Mountains
to draft Ricky Williams. They literally traded their entire draft
to get Ricky Williams. Taken before Ricky Williams was Edgrin
James much less talked about. He became the Hall of Famer,
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though Ricky Williams is Hall of Fame for different reasons.
But Edgerrin James in this draft for me is tre
Vallan Travian.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Yes, Travion Henderson from Ohio.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I'm in Henderson of Ohio State. Take that to the bank,
Edin James.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Yeah, I have him on my list. Oh.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
I hope he's a Charger, even.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Though I don't know if that's gonna happen. All Right,
with my seventh pick, you guys, I have to take
because of the intrigue. Is he gonna go early?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Is he gonna go late?
Speaker 8 (35:19):
What is he gonna do?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Shador Sanders, I gotta take him here at number seven
because I I just am so, I'm just so curious
as to what is gonna happen after today. I'll take Shador.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Coach.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
You got the last.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Pick, uh, I get cam Ward you get cam Ward
first quarterback? Take can I kinda who's also crazy athletic. Look,
I'm not a huge cam Word guy because I've seen
him kind of melt down going back to a wazoo
and a couple of times ur in the season. But
the men's talent and he's gonna be the first pick
in the draft. I feel like I got to steal
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getting cam Ward with the last pick of our in
the draft.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Draft, and that's game time, and.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
That's game time.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
This is game time on the Dug Gottlie just.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Say quick, quick rule clarification.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
The reason why you didn't hear Sam second pick is
because they took too long to draft, just like.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
The Vikings five years ago. Not too long to draft.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That was longer than five years ago. Didn't the Vikings?
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Was it too like they did that on thousand and four?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Maybe No, it's like two years in a row they
didn't get the pick in on time.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
I'm the Vikings here. It's like one of.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Those you have one job thing like yeah, well there's
one guy's like, hey.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
How was the Vikings and the Ravens?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Right, honey, how was your day? Like if this was
my fault? But how did you just let it keep going?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
And after you have you're like, yeah, the last pick
is coming up. It's Dougs And I was like, wait,
I never got a second pick. I was going to
go Homer and and and draft my guy Caleb Johnson,
the big running back. Hope he goes to the Niners.
So you can glide for touchdowns. Wow, yeah, that's my pick.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
But it's all it's over. Now it's over.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's called. Well, he'll still be available tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
So we could do this same wouldn't go in the
first round. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
No, he will not.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And put yourself down as like one of five people
not in his family that are excited to see him
play in the nflans.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
He had an explosive year for the Iowa.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Was an explosive year for the for the Iowaka has
no question.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
Welcome in.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So a quick update on the weather right because yesterday
was all things spring and you know, Jay Stu, you
don't understand what spring's like because you live in southern California.
You have your whole life, okay, But to people who
lived outside, like spring is right, April showers bring mayflowers.
You woke up it was pouring rain most of the day,
(01:43):
it was overcast, and the afternoon evening were absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Got up to like seventy four seventy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Five degrees today, overcast all day, supposed to be clearing
up in the afternoon to sixty degrees and then it'll
be cool tonight, but no rain in the forecast. Then
it's gonna rain early in the morning and then.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A beautiful weekend. So fears of snow because there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Have been snowstorms in April in this part of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No snow.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
There will be rain, just not during the draft unless
the draft cos till five am, at which point in
time I think.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And then you have kind of the interesting makeup, not
just of having it outside outside Lambeau, the traveling circus
that is the NFL Draft, but then you have the
fact that the Packers they don't draft until what the
twenty third pick, And among the things that are asked
constantly if you live anywhere in Wisconsin or if you
walk around with the Packers fans, will they draft a
(02:39):
wide receiver? And of course yesterday's rumor of George Pickens
potentially being traded to the Packers only reinvigorated that conversation. Right,
do you trade for George Pickens a second round pick
and then you don't have to draft a wide receiver
in the first round.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
We shall see.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I think the most interesting part of this draft,
and again this is just me, a guy who's covered
more obviously the NFL drafts throughout my twenty five years
of doing radio. But think of how much things are different.
You know how much things are different, And you know,
when you're coaching a college basketball team, people ask all
(03:18):
the time like you're getting into the college basketball and
everybody else is getting out. Well, my thing is, it's
not that different for me because I wasn't a college
basketball coach the last twenty five years, I covered the game,
I played the game, my brother coached the game, but
I didn't experience what recruiting used to be like. So
comparing it to now is not that big a deal.
But we've all watched this NFL draft evolved into where
(03:41):
you know, just even the thought of taking it on
the road, would it work. It's been a stunning success.
But do we realize how much college football has changed
in just the last twelve months, but especially in the
last five years, right, because you have guys that had
this is the last year supposedly of the co COVID
year senior rule, So a lot of teams were able
(04:04):
to compete against higher level of competition because you had
twenty four, twenty five, sometimes twenty six year old guys competing.
And it's not we're not talking about BYU and people
went on a Mormon mission that this was fairly commonplace
in college football, guys playing in their fifth and sixth year.
So you had COVID year guys still existing in college football.
You've had the transfer portal, which let's not blame the
(04:27):
transfer portal. It's the fact that there are no rules
that make you sit out a year when you transfer,
so guys are at multiple schools, sometimes two, three, four,
even five.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Or six schools.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Additionally, the Power five conferences became Power four this year,
and there's been a massive shift in the level of
competition in the SEC, in Big Ten in comparison.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
To the ACC.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Right, the ACC SMU was in the College Football Playoffs,
two teams repping the ACC SMU. That doesn't mean that
they weren't a good team, but they didn't have elite talent.
But the only reason they got there was had a
bunch of money, threw it up money through money at guys,
and had better talent than the rest of the ACC
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which was kind of financially deprived in comparison to the
SEC and the Big Ten, the Big Twelve, the SEC,
and the Big Ten all changed their leagues and in
many ways expanded the number of power for sorts of teams.
That's a change. And we had the first ever true
college football Playoff this year. We had an expanded field,
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not just four teams, had twelve teams. So that changed
what we watched, how we watched, and when we paid
attention and what we paid attention to.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So if you have that much upheaval.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
In the same sport and at the level that feeds
your sport. In the NFL draft, there is very very
likely to be that much upheaval in the NFL draft.
Does that Does that make sense? And if you're like
that doesn't really affect the NFL, oh really, really, just
do yourself a favor and look back at last year's
(06:13):
NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Caleb Williams was a transfer from Oklahoma to USC. Jaden
Daniels was a transfer from Arizona State to LSU. Now,
Drake may wasn't a transfer, but he played at at
at Drake.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I mean at Drake.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Excuse mean Drake may have played at at North Carolina.
Michael Pennix junior was at Washington. He was a transfer,
having played previously in Indiana. Last year was a quarterback draft,
but part of the bow Knicks transfer from Auburn. Those
guys had played three or four years at their previous
spot and had transferred, so they were older, so we
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could go through the whole draft. But the idea that, hey,
this is a weird raft just because there's not a
ton of quarterbacks that will go in the first round
and there's one running back. How high will he go
and we don't know a lot of these non skill
position players, Like, yeah, all that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Is true, but you can't deny.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And if you do deny, you're just blind to the
reality of what's changing college footall. If college football changes
as much as it has COVID to your seniors, expansion
of the Big Ten, expansion of the SEC, plus the ACC,
there's been kind of a talent void in the ACC.
(07:36):
Then you factor in that a college fall playoff changes
what we watch, how we watched, what's important, how much
teams can develop guys. And then the last factor is
players are staying in school longer. They just are Why
would you leave? I mean, look, I'll just say this
about my star players got named Anthony Roy, and Anthony
(07:58):
Roy desperately wanted to in the NBA draft.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Desperately want to go in the NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But my messaging to him and he just signed with
with Oklahoma State with Miama Mater, was hey, dude, that's
always there for you. But once you leave college, the
college money isn't here for you anymore. You can't go
to the NBA get cut, Like you know what, I
want to try college again?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Doesn't work?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And what we told him, which is accurate, is you
are guaranteed to make probably two x of what you
would make if you're a second round pick in the
NBA draft. If you stay in college, you're an idiot
if you go, and you risk losing that when the
NFL or the NBA is always there for you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So why is the NFL draft different this year?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, if you are underclassmen, because if you have any
eligibility and you can get paid, you stay and get paid.
In college football, the landscape has changed in terms of
what teams are important and what teams have money, and
that's where all the teams that have players and like. Again,
here's another part to the transfer portal, which is teams
(08:59):
are new teams every year, completely new rosters. So the
first three or four games of the year, the stats
aren't necessarily accurate because coaches are trying to figure out
their rosters because they may or may not have spring games.
All that causes a different style of draft that we
haven't seen before. Fewer underclassmen in this case, the quarterback
(09:23):
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Speaker 2 (09:52):
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Yesterday's show by the Way Jays two, especially we shared
our favorite memories of first rounds in the NFL. It
is kind of a downer that the Titans are the
number one pick, right, I get the Titans used to
be the Oilers, but it just it still seems like
a very random team to have the number one overall pick, Like,
(10:13):
how much more interest would there be in this draft
if the Giants draft number one overall or the Patriots
draft number one overall or the Raiders draft of bornival.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
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Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I do think we got to talk about the Shannon
Sharp thing at some point. Uh, we'll get into that
in game time when we bring in the lovely Montcy Belagas.
The clefand Cavaliers are up two games and none on
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This is there.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
One of their stars are guard Darius Garland. He was
asked after the game about their game plan and how
they've been able to go up two games to none.
Take a listen, Miami's been really good at turning teams over.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But the first two games, you guys have really hold
on to it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What's the key to playing clean basketball like that against a.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Team with that?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Pick on Tyler Hero and take care of theble, don't
play in tight spaces, can't pick on their weak defenders,
go at them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, pick on Tyler Hero. I mean, by the way,
Tyler Hero from Wisconsin. It's a but there's a I mean,
that's the level of honesty.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It'll go down as billboard material.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's not a secret. Watch the game, that's what they do.
But saying the quiet part out loud is kind of fascinating. Hey, Like,
Tyler Heerroo couldn't guard the chair I'm sitting on right.
You almost feel like Darius Carland's gonna break that out next.
What's the key to beat my meat, pick on Tyler Hero,
pick on their board defenders, and pick on Tayler Hero.
(11:51):
Did I mention Tyler Hero as a board defender? I
think I did. Let's get the Monci Beloga. Just get
a quick update mons what he got. Oh months, he's
getting a little trouble with her her microphone. Hey, I
wanted Chase, do I want to ask you? Okay, So
here's the latest statement. This is from Shannon Sharp. Right,
I think I don't necessarily believe I have to I
(12:18):
have to rehash the story, right, Chase, du do you
think we need to rehash the entirety of the story
with with In regards to Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I think, according to basic radio fundamentals, you do. But okay,
if you choose not to, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So Shannon Sharp was suit for fifty million dollars. Like again,
it's been There have been a lot of Shannon Sharp
here this last week. And I'll defend myself in one
second as part of it. So Shannon has his club
Chase a podcast, and if it's been successful, then there
(12:55):
was a story out that he was going to his
contract was up with Collins Podcast. Sorry, that's the Volume
podcast network. And when it's up he could get up
to one hundred million dollars to bring his club Shay
Shape podcast over somewhere else. Two days later, and I
believe it was Monday of this week because that story
(13:16):
came out late last weekend. Last weekend, so Monday of
this week.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He was being sued for fifty million dollars for alleged
sexual assault. So then Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He published a video saying it was consensual and anything
that comes out, including a sex tape, is edited. Then
there are two different audio conversations, which, by the way,
are two of the most boring phone calls you're ever
going to hear. Right, boring phone calls you're ever going
to hear, Like people say they say two words to
(13:56):
each other and then long pregnant pause, then two words
to each other, long pregnant pause.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's one of those.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I can't believe if you're some on the phone with
somebody and you don't have anything to say, why are
you on the phone with somebody?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I thought the weirdest part was Larry Davis's, who's Shannon's lawyer,
said that they tried to settle this for tens of
millions of dollars and she turned it down. Why is
Larry Davis admitting that they tried to settle this thing
for tens of millions of dollars while at the same
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time proclaiming it proclaiming his innocence.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, that one's weird.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And then this about an hour ago from from Shannon Sharp.
My statement is found here, and this is the truth.
The relationship in question was one hundred percent consensual at
this juncture. I'm electing to step aside temporarily for my
ESPN duties. I'm devoting this time to my family and
responding and dealing with the false and disruptive allegations set again.
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I plan to return to ESPN the start of the
NFL preseason. I sincerely appreciate the overwhelming and ongoing support
I've received from my family, friends, and colleagues. Shannon Sharp, Jacet,
You've been doing this a long time. Does he return
to ESPN?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I don't believe so. I don't believe Disney. I don't
believe Disney lets him back because I said this after
the Trevor Bauer thing. He'll never picture the Dodgers again
because of the things that he's admitted to, whether it's
consensual or not. The details themselves are pretty horrific if
you are the run on the mill, you know, Midwest
(15:38):
family man. So I don't think he goes back to Disney,
that's my guest.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I again, I just think it's so interesting, you know,
it's it's really interesting, and part of me is like, dude,
Tony Busby, he does have another guy in his cross hairs.
Here's where I woke up this and Jay sees tell
me if.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
This makes sense to you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, Dan Patrick was talking about whether any publicity
was good publicity with me in regards to Green Bay basketball,
and the answer is not all publicity is good publicity.
This is clearly not good publicity, right, But that was
kind of my point with Dan, and maybe I didn't
(16:23):
make it clear enough, was like, what is bad publicity
that we lost basketball games?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Like, that's not bad publicity.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It was a bad publicity that Lebron is trolling me
and tweeting at me because I said I didn't think
his son was an NBA player, Like, again, that's not
really bad publicity.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is bad publicity.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Anytime you're talking about your sex life with a woman
who is almost forty years it's forty years or thirty
years younger than you, thirty years younger than you, and
some of the other things that are discussed, and you're
talking about choking woman like that is bad publicity. No,
all publicity is not goog This is bad publicity. But
I would also point out that this is bad not
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anything about my team losing games. As Babyblisty steut Gottlieb
show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Ryan Hollands joints us
Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst. He played ten years in
the NBA, and Ryan, I love Darius Garland saying in
the quiet part out loud, Hey, what's your what's what's
the what's the game plan that she has allowed you
(17:27):
guys succeed?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
He's like, attack Tayler Hero.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Go at the week Defenders, attack Tayler Hero. Is it
really that simple when when you're talking about game plans
getting ready for NBA playoff games like you played that.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
It is And it's also a sign of respect when
you have a guy that is a main portion of
the offense. Here's the thing for Houston where maybe not
our guys are maybe not that advanced offensively, but the
game plan is that's that Curry. Now make no Mistafe
(18:02):
Curry has improved significantly on the defensive end, and you
know those are the steps that he had to make.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But when you get into the playoffs and.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
There's a week link out there, you find that week link.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And you abuse it.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And against a guy like Hero, sometimes the best defense
on him is your offense, making him work, taking his
legs away.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What's wrong with the Bucks?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well, first off, Damian Lillard, you know with the blood clop,
that's an issue. Before that, you know, you fire your
head coach and you're still trying to find a way.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And I haven't heard this from anybody, but I know
from my time of playing in the NBA being a
leader isn't easy.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
And there's hints that you get from Gianni's having one
foot in and one foot out, or you know.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Maybe not thinking things would be as simple as they are.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
But when you're in a position as a great player
and you have to lead in organizations, you got to
rolly the troops behind you. Those expectations are different versus
just coming out playing hard and doing your job. When
the guys in that locker room know that you have
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decisions that can be made to have somebody on the
team or not that responsibility is different. So when they
look at Lebron James and you criticize Lebron and Lebron
you know, legms, those comments, those things come out. Lebron
is delivered a championship wearing those shoes, and it's hard
shoes to still when someone just trading or something happens.
(19:48):
So they're going to come at you, and that's the
way they're looking at Yannis. So I'm not saying that's
why they're losing, but that leadership role along with success
is a lot different.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Dougs, I agree with you have he is the head
that wears a crown is the Shakespeare expression. Ryan Holmes,
our guest ten years in the NBA, covers Rockets games
throughout the year for the Houston Rockets, and of course
he also is our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Jimmy Butler goes down and so too to the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But the Warriors, did you know complete the task that
everybody says, Hey, let's just go get a split when
we're on the road. What's your sense of that series
as it heads back to San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Man, For one, you saw this, you just said it.
You saw this coming from a mile away. Steve Turtan
was gonna pump the games.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
You got to understand from the Warriors standpoint, as soon
as they got Jimmy Butler, they had to work so
hard just to get into the playoffs. They they had
bumps and bruises to get to this point. And ultimately
e May knew that, so May said, we're young. I
don't want to say young and dumb, but our guys
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they're going and inexperienced to try to find their ways.
So you know what if maybe we lose game one
because our guys hadn't seen it, well, we're taking a
pound of flesh with us.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
And they went after.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Golden stags and stee Kerr made his mind up that
he's gonna play Jimmy forty minutes.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's getting thirty five.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Jonathan Comenda's not gonna stand gonna get substantial minutes. And
ultimately the lack of development with Jonathan Kamenda is coming
back to bite the Warriors and the lack of trust
because Jimmy walked off the floor.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Is there a chance that Jimmy could have played? Do
I stepped them to play? Absolutely? But they's a.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Factor where it just wasn't worth it, and the body
said no. On top of that, on top of that foul,
You know what, Doug, you fall in your telebone, battles
up your spine. But Jimmy probably steps into that game
banged up and injured.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Lightly with Draymond and lightly with Curry.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Also Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, coming
to you from the Bar which is just outside of
lambeau Field, the Bar on Holmgren. Feel free to stop
by if you're listening to us anywhere in Wisconsin. My
guest is Ryan is a dude who won a good friend,
but too tremendous player. Ryan Hollins play at UCLA, played
(22:19):
ten years in the league. Covers the Rockets and the
rest of the NBA of local TV and nationally here
on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get to the Lakers. Game one.
They can't guard Minnesota couldn't guard him. Game two more physical, right,
and obviously the Timberwlves don't make I don't know what
they made twenty one threes in the first game, but
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the Timberwlves did get one out of two. Give me
your sense is this? As this series resets and gets
back to the twin Cities. What your thoughts are on
this matchup. Now that we've seen both teams play, the
teams play twice.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I think the chess match is gonna start. And we
knew Doug. The challenge for the Lakers was entered, like,
if you're playing against Luca and Lebron.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
And Luca Luca may still be a worse athlete than
a forty year old Lebron energy wise on both ends.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
But you're going to beat the Lakers with your energy. Now. Ultimately,
Minnesota has this series in hand if they can take
care of too at home.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
But I'm not going to be surprised if Luca Doncon
slays his best game as a Laker, and hear me
when I say this on the road up in Minnesota,
and those guys go and take care of business.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I love Anthony Edwards, I genuinely do. But when he
learns how to really play the game of basketball and
slow down and play with pace, and how to attack
defenses and learn the reads that teams are given him,
is going.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
To be unstoppable. It's just not there yet at this
stage in his career. Now, a guy who could really
flip the series from Minnesota could be Julius Randall. But ultimately,
right now, I don't think that Minnesota has enough, and
I do think the Lakers probably take one.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I think it ends up being seven.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
But I think that ultimately you're gonna see the experience
of Luca and Lebron play out. This thing is gonna
slow down. They're gonna walk the ball up the floor. Dog,
And I do think that la makes the game very
physical and they end up taking it.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So you like the Lakers to win playing physical on
the road. I've just you know, it's so weird, Ryan,
You watch these series. You watch game one and then
you watch game two, and it looks like completely different teams,
completely different matchups. What about the Clippers and Denver? I mean,
I like you, and I know how good Kawhi is,
but now we're playing, we're watching Pete Kawhi. They return home,
(24:50):
they get two against against Denver, and Denver's been kind
of a mess. Can the Clippers actually close out the series?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can they win?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Maybe? I can they? Will they win this series?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Doug?
Speaker 7 (25:02):
It was scary outside of my rockets. They may come
out the West, and the reason we're all kind of
dumbfound and tell me if I'm wrong. Kawhi looks like
the darn best player on the planet.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
See he looks so good. It was almost like, okay.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Guys, I posted in game one, I was gonna fill
it out.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
You need to take over mode.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
I still have that in the bag and I can
do it now. We've been here before, Doug. Kawhi Leonard
plays unbelievable. You get news after the game that he's
done for the season, so hopefully that doesn't happen. But
with him being who he is, and the lack of
defense in Denver without fight Malone and just probably age
(25:45):
and not able to retool defensively off their bench.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I like the Clippers the way Zubox is played. I
like the Clippers.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
They have enough. It's a tough matchup and that series
is one that everyone may not be looking at that
he just says, oh my God, like like some really
good basketball that we're seeing being played. And it's only
the first round, but just the Western Conference is loaded.
But I think Kawhai coming back and shocked all of us.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Done.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
God was supposed to be slowing down, missing a step.
I'm wondering what his physical therapist has him doing. Dub
Maybe we should take some fits from them. But but
why Leonard is really looking unbelievable. When we saw him
a week.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Before the playoffs started, our guys went down there and
played him and he did the same thing.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
You know, he still has those furts where he can
like he can just truly take over.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, he's he looks awesome. And I'm a big Tyler guy.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I think Tyler's as good as any any coacher is
in the NBA. Anybody beating Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Oh yes, it's all about matchup, Doug. So for Houston.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
The reason Houston would match up well with Oklahomas why
because they have the use They can pound them inside.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
They've got two bigs that can attack chet Holmgren and.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
The energy to keep up. One thing that you're going
to see, Doug, is the playoffs go on. It's a
ballad nutrition. Some of these older players aren't going to
be able to make it through. Oklahoma City is much better,
much more experienced than they were a year ago. They
still have their work cutout at the end of the day.
Shay is unbelievable, There's no question there. But I think
(27:31):
their holes, but you have to find them right or
excuse me, better yet wrong matchup for Oklahoma City, and
it's going to have to be a team that has
some juice inside.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah's I guess the only way to beat him is
to beat them up inside. I just don't know outside
of Denver if that, if that team exists, and I
don't know if Denver has the depths to beat them
in the playoffs either. And I don't know, like you,
if Denver is even going to survive survive the LA Clippers,
so he even knows, well, then let me.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Say this to you, Doug, oddly enough is huge in
Houston's toughest matchup is probably right now against Golden State.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Sure, I don't think they would have problems, and it
may sound a wild Houston gets Oklahoma City, They're going
to be very comfortable in that matchup. And it's just
the way matchups work in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, no question it is.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
The playoffs are about matchups as well as about health,
and the Rockets have health right now. We'll see if
they get out of this matchup into a more favorable one.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Ryan Hollins, of course, covers games.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
For the Houston Rockets all year, and he's our Fox
Sports Radio NBA analyst.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ryan thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Any dog.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Live in Green May, Wisconsin,
side of the NFL Draft at the bar on Home Green.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
One guy yelling there we go a little bit better,
a little bit better ish.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That was that was disturbing. Yeah, we're Team minus a
couple hours away. I I by the way, I love
the I love the lies that are put out there
through through the media. Right It's like, oh, hey, George
Pickens could be on his way to Green Bay. If
you know who, if you know who reports that, you
know exactly what that what you feel like that's about? Hey, Jase,
(29:26):
do you tell me if I'm wrong? Who who reported
the George Pickens start.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
It sounds like something that the agent for George Pickens
would do.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, because George Pickens knows they don't want him
there and he doesn't want to be there. Like I
just again a guy. I could be way off. It
could be way off. But if you evaluate the Packers, though,
everyone seems to feel like they need a number one
wide receiver. George Pickens pouting act over getting the ball,
(29:59):
not getting ball doesn't feel like it'll jibe with how
how the Packers like to go and get their players.
Does he feel like a Green Bay Packer and he answers,
I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I gotta think that the whole thinking with with, you know,
bringing in another star wide receiver and having George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's where you gotta have an Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You got to have a guy who has a big
enough rep personality to go shut up and just go play.
I don't think Jordan Love is that guy. So I
feel like that one is a leak from the agent
trying to get him to a good spot, and that
good spot would be Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Let's get to a good spot. Let's get to month
syblamgnos with the game.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Mont's what's
the game today?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Well, it is Thursday, so we are going to be
I feel a draft, are going to be drafted.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I like that there's not going on there.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You hear zipper sounds and people think that it's like
the fly of somebody's pants.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yes, immediately supposed to be like the zipper of a tent.
Is that right, Sam?
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Is that what your jacket? You're cool? I a bundle
up like you're in Green Bay for April.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I don't know how many people think.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That first sounds like bargo. Don't you know?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
That also is a little Estelle Castanza in there, just
for Stell Castanza.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well, that's when you know you're getting old, right.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
When you feel a draft fast.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yet Well, when you're sitting in a restaurant and you
can play complain about it being drafted.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, absolutely, that's like.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
My mom is Just listen, Doug, listen to this exchange
between Frankestans and Estelle.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
This is just sums up what it's like being an
old person. I feel a draft change.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We have a boat.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Well, just order hot dish, babe filmournes booth.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
All right, guys, well we're doing a draft. Let's go.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Yes, we're gonna be drafting players that we are looking
forward to the most.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
To see what they can do.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
In the NFL with the draft starting in less than
five hours, So we are going to draft in a
snake order.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
It's gonna start with you, coach.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Then me Sam Jason, and then snake back around and
it ends with you, Doug.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
All right, coach, but you're starting an ending, so go
you're on the clock, just like the draft.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Travis Hunter.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Yeah, that's easy.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Well, I mean, I think there's only two guys that
you really really want to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean there's two. Travis Hunt. Hunter is one. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Like I'll say problem with Travis The problem with Travis
Hunter is he's much more likely to be a defensive
guy than an offensive guy. But I think they're gonna
acquiesce and let him return kicks, let him do some
offensive stuff, especially in the first contract.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I'll go with Travis Hunter. That one's easier.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
All right, Yeah, I'm with you. I think the two
obvious ones you took the first one. I'm going to
take Ashton genty in at number two, especially with this
statement of like, you know, draft the guy that people
can't tackle.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
It's tackle football. Draft the guy that people can't tackle.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I want to see what that running back actually does
in the NFL. All right, Sam with the third pick.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And I feel a draft pick and the duck out
show draft.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I should have traded up. I should have trade up
because I wanted to draft. I'm going to be selecting
what appears to be the most prolific tight end in
Big ten history, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
He was on my board is number three.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
He caught everything thrown his way.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
You know, the tight end has been really celebrated the
last ten years or so, ten to fifteen years in
the NFL. This guy could be like you know, you
hear of Iowa's being tight end. You with this guy
could be the next big stud in the NFL. Tyler
Warren is who I am drafting third overall out of
Penn State?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Nice?
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I could we do? Jalen Nol wrote, take him off
the board? Is it going to be more Anthony Daniels?
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Is that his name? Anthony Daniels, Anthony Richardson, Anthony.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Richardson or Daniels for the.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Richardson or more Daniels?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, who's your second pick?
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I like, I'm gonna make this analogy.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
I don't know if everybody's gonna get this, but my
Edgerrin James of this draft for people that don't know.
In nineteen ninety nine, the Saints moved Hills and Mountains
to draft Ricky Williams. They literally traded their entire draft
to get Ricky Williams. Taken before Ricky Williams was Edgrin
James much less talked about. He became the Hall of Famer,
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though Ricky Williams is Hall of Fame for different reasons.
But Edgerrin James in this draft for me is tre
Vallan Travian.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Yes, Travion Henderson from Ohio.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I'm in Henderson of Ohio State. Take that to the bank,
Edin James.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Yeah, I have him on my list. Oh.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
I hope he's a Charger, even.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Though I don't know if that's gonna happen. All Right,
with my seventh pick, you guys, I have to take
because of the intrigue. Is he gonna go early?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Is he gonna go late?
Speaker 8 (35:19):
What is he gonna do?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Shador Sanders, I gotta take him here at number seven
because I I just am so, I'm just so curious
as to what is gonna happen after today. I'll take Shador.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Coach.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
You got the last.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Pick, uh, I get cam Ward you get cam Ward
first quarterback? Take can I kinda who's also crazy athletic. Look,
I'm not a huge cam Word guy because I've seen
him kind of melt down going back to a wazoo
and a couple of times ur in the season. But
the men's talent and he's gonna be the first pick
in the draft. I feel like I got to steal
(35:52):
getting cam Ward with the last pick of our in
the draft.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Draft, and that's game time, and.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
That's game time.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
This is game time on the Dug Gottlie just.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Say quick, quick rule clarification.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
The reason why you didn't hear Sam second pick is
because they took too long to draft, just like.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
The Vikings five years ago. Not too long to draft.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That was longer than five years ago. Didn't the Vikings?
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Was it too like they did that on thousand and four?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Maybe No, it's like two years in a row they
didn't get the pick in on time.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
I'm the Vikings here. It's like one of.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Those you have one job thing like yeah, well there's
one guy's like, hey.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
How was the Vikings and the Ravens?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Right, honey, how was your day? Like if this was
my fault? But how did you just let it keep going?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
And after you have you're like, yeah, the last pick
is coming up. It's Dougs And I was like, wait,
I never got a second pick. I was going to
go Homer and and and draft my guy Caleb Johnson,
the big running back. Hope he goes to the Niners.
So you can glide for touchdowns. Wow, yeah, that's my pick.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
But it's all it's over. Now it's over.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's called. Well, he'll still be available tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
So we could do this same wouldn't go in the
first round. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
No, he will not.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And put yourself down as like one of five people
not in his family that are excited to see him
play in the nflans.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
He had an explosive year for the Iowa.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Was an explosive year for the for the Iowaka has
no question.
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.