April 23, 2025 • 36 mins
On this version of The Midway, Doug and the crew share their most memorable First Day NFL Draft moments on broadcast. Doug weighs in on the NBA anonymous poll and criticizes comments made by Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of For Better or Worse?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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home grew way Man. We got some people filling in here.
That's mostly because Dan Patrick and the dan Nets are
doing a meet and greet here, and what about forty
five minutes or so, we're also going to do a
cheese curd taste test. Not sure if you're aware, Bayer,
can you explain to people that there's actually two different
types of cheese curds that they don't actually understand, because
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right now Jay Stew's head is spinning and Iowa Sam
is like wait what and I even had that double take.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's two types of cheese curd.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Right from the raw as opposed to the deep fried.
Is that what you're talking about? Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And so there's the raw runs are squeaky.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That's what I'm told, right it make sure it squeaks
in your teeth when you eat them.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, correct, there is a similar texture if you have
had day old deep fried cheese curds. Like maybe not exactly,
but yes, there is a squeaky texture that you could
just buy. They're usually just in a plastic you know
bag in the grocery store from some sort of dairy
or creamery or whoever produces them. And yeah, you just
put them in the fridge and you can just have
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the cheese curds that way. Okay, I prefer the deep
fried I do.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't think anybody does. Anybody not prefer anything that's
deep fried.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Surprised a lot of people like the squeaky curds. They do.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think they do.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But again it's it's a little bit like we've had
this discussion about room temperature water. It may be better
for you and you may enjoy you think health benefits
from it, but no one sits there and goes like,
you know, what I really want is some warm room
to betrure water. No, you want ice cold water. It's
just like fried chicken. Like, who doesn't like fried chicken?
Now you may not eat fried chicken. He's like, I
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don't want to eat fried food. That's fair, but please
don't tell me it doesn't taste delicious.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's like every state fair you ever go to, they
just like, hey, you fried, deep fried twinkies, deep fried whatever,
and they're all amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yes, yes, Sam, Doug, random obscure fact for you that
you know that if you drink cold water year round,
your body will burn approximately twenty calories from warming that
water up in your body.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So so you burn more calorie.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Actually burn calories water. Yep, yep, But I don't know
like they say it's bad for you.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Is this a Wikipedia thing?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
This is something I heard on on the radio on
news radio.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
If you heard it on radio, then it's absolutely true.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I'm pretty sure it's true. It's one of those obscure facts.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I believe it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, but it kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Cold water, I guess not great for your throat, some say,
but it will help you burn calories twenty calories in
about a years. So what is that like one bite
of of a sandwich or something?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Not really sure.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. We'll do
our fact finding on warm versus cold water, and and
and the caloric intaking Clark burning. We'll also do a
little cheese curd challenge here at some point in this
hour of the show. But before we get to that,
let's do something we do every day every Wednesday. The
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Wednesday is the middle of the week. This is the
middle of the show. It's the middle of your day.
It's something we called the Midway.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's not getting the middle, It's time for the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Midway.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's so funny that Jay Stu came up with this
topic because last night I was over at the Legacy Hotel.
We have an awesome bar up on the sixth floor,
and this very topic came up because I was sitting
with the NFL network guys.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Go ahead, jay Stu with the topic for the Midway.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I asked the group text, how about the most memorable
first night draft moments on broadcast?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Most memorable? What comes to mind first?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Dan wanted to add or wrinkle to this, so he
wants to open up the possibilities of what you can
discuss in this particular midway.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, Dan, how would you like to open open that up?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I kind of wanted to to say my little piece
on what I love about the NFL Draft broadcast because
I think that there are there are things within that
broadcast that we sometimes take for granted, and we're going
to get into the moments that we remember. But I
think it's the little things that we have to really cherish,
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and the little things such as the graphic changing when
a trade is made. Like there is when the panel,
whether you're watching the NFL network or you're watching ESPN,
or you're listening to Fox Sports Radio on TV, when
you see the graphic change or you hear the there's
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been a trade, there is There's nothing like it. It
is a in a moment of oh my goodness, what
did they get? Who do they want? What is the deal?
Where did this team go? It's within that draft window.
I absolutely love it when you know that the team
is on the clock and all of a sudden, just
the graphic changes to a different team because of the trade.
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I find that that that's one of the little things
that I really really appreciate about the draft.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
There's also that the the the the when the pick
is in, Yes, right, I like that pick as is.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Is that is that how it goes that there's that
little pick is in sound whatever somewhere somebody either made
a whole bunch of money trademarking that thing or doing that.
I think it's for I think ESPN has that. I
don't think it's NFL network, But yes, that that is
the child.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Can I give you my two real quick?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You can, but I want to comment on yours. I
want to say something about yours. The other great thing
about the pick is in is when it happens. So
you know when the clock is winding down that okay,
they got down to the wire that they have to
do it. But when a team does it only two
minutes into their clock or a minute into their clock
doesn't happen often, But then you know that they wanted
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the guy, that they were waiting for that person to fall,
that they couldn't wait for the pick to come in.
I do think that sometimes the NFL will hold on
to it, or there are you know, in a commercial break,
so there's nothing that you could really do with it,
so you have to wait till they come back to air.
But the fact is is if a team doesn't use
their entire allotment of time, and they do it pretty early,
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it means that they want someone they've they've been waiting, correct, correct,
And I love that little thing about it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, okay, I I don't think this is arguable. I
have the two in my mind most iconic Draft night,
first night of Draft night moments, you ready, okay? Number
one is Laramie Tunseel Laramie Tunsell going viral. That was
the first true viral NFL Draft moment. Laramie Tunsell, who's
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a left tackle out of Ole miss And it was
in the very early moments of the draft. If you
were watching on when you had Twitter on, somebody tweeted
out a video of him smoking, doing a bong rip
with a gas mask on, and then taking the gas
mask off to reveal it was Laramie Tunsel, high as
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a kite, happy as can be. I don't know anybody
who doesn't who watches the draft, who doesn't wouldn't mark
that as one of the five.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Most poignant moments.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I agreed.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
The other one is when Aaron Rodgers sat in the
sat in the green room for you know, twenty three
picks till he went what twenty fourth to the Packers.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Ship is still on his shoulders, yeah, yeah, shoulder.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, so yeah again, just watching him and he's sitting
there and you're just like that was. There have been
other guys that have sat in the green room. I
don't remember there being quarterbacks. I don't remember them being
becoming first bout Hall of Famers or MVPs. And I
also like, very few do you feel like outwardly remember
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that moment, But he does, and he takes.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That on everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He has been exacting revenge for twenty years ever since.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
There have been players who waited before Warren Sap was
a long wait. But I feel that Rogers is the
pinnacle of it. And I think it's obviously because of
how his career turned out everything that the fall that
it was.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
It wasn't like one to five or.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
One to ten, think, I mean, it was one, and
then it was with Alex Smith and then it was
everybody else. I think that Rogers is the pinnacle, the
poster child of that moment.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
I think when when it happened with will Wevis, the
small takeaway was that he was put off that he
was waiting that long, But the big takeaway was everyone
thought his girlfriend was hot. And then in the in
the two years since, she's become famous for even more
things with will webs and I'll just let you google that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm gonna have to google that work.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
We mean it work.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Wait did they have a sex tape?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh my god, Yeah, don't do it?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Were they?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Really?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It puts Kim k and uh and ray J to shame?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Really did you watch it? In four? K J stew.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I was just doing research because I do sports contents
for a job. I had to.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I had to watch it many times.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay, I liked I liked that one.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I was, Sam, do you have any memorable I actually
I have another memorable person.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, hold on, hold on, I just want to just
want to clarify that is not Jason's submission. That was
That was the piggyback on the Rogers. That was a side. Yes,
so he's got he's got his own that I know.
He's ready to hold on hold on to unveiled.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And I think Doug's about to. I think Doug's about
to do what we call around here. He's about to
sam up the middle off three before I could offer one.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, you know what, You're right, I'm going to
sam it up. But here's the one content. Now here's
the one difference. Hey, Sam, what's the name of the.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Show, The Doug Got Lead.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
There you go show.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, do you remember Joe Thomas when he got picked,
like consin legend, literally on his boat, fishing, right on
his boat fishing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now, I have I fished? Yes? Am I a fisherman? No?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But if I was? I can't think of a better way.
Nothing says more like he won. Basically won. Every every
fisherman ever still remembers that moment. Most of us football
fans remember that moment, right, the one thing you love
to do most. You were doing that on your best
day when you're draft in the first round the NFL Draft,
unfortunately for him was the Cleveland Browns only team he
ever played for. But still Joe Thomas fishing iconic moment.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Kind of speaks to his personality. I mean, he's just
a laid back guy, just did his job, shows up.
He's not trying to go to the you know, he's
just like stayed in Cleveland his whole career. Lunch pail,
hard hat. That's Joe Thomas fishing on the weekends. All right,
would you like.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
To go to mine?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Now, Doug, very much. Let's go to the twenty eighteen draft.
The Philadelphia Eagles had just won their first Super Bowl
in franchise history, and the draft was being held in
at Jerry's World eighteen he Stadium in Arlington, and up
to announce the forty ninth pick longtime kicker for the
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Philadelphia Eager Eagles, David Akers, who kicked for them from
ninety nine to twenty ten and then he retired twenty
third team, so he did not get to play for
the super Bowl team. But he came up and he
let the Dallas Cowboys know who the Super Bowl champs
are and where they stand in the pecking order. Tonight,
I'm representing the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Ain't fe chaps, the visional jefs jams who Chaps? Oh
whoa jams?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hey Dallas?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
The last time the are the Super Bowl? These drops
picks what more? Now?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I love this sound because David Acres walks up and
he looks basically like he works in it or he's
an accountant. He's got kind of a receding hairline, he's
got glasses he doesn't and and his voice shrieks and
kind of splits, and it's just is great a trolling,
but he's like this big kind of no offense to
David Acres, great kicker. He's kind of a dork up there,
but he trolls so well and they are booing him throughout.
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That pick would actually turn out to be Dallas Goddard,
who won us a second Super Bowl with the Eagles.
So there's one of my favorite moments. Now you're an Eagles.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Fans a second super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Did I say that?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He did? Oh geez, that's I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I live. There's a Freudian slip there. I know we
got to get to Jason's. But the thing with you
know why akers did that? Do you know why he
did that? Because the year before in Philadelphia, Cowboys, great
Drew Pearson did this.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
All right?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
How about them Cowboys? I want to thank the Eagle
fans for allowing me to.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Have a career in the NFL. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I am owner as an undrafted free agent to be
selected to make the Cowboys second round draft pick, and
I'll be half but the five time world.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Champion Dallas Cowboys hold up right, honor Jimmy Jones.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
T Jones and the Jos family coach.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Jason Jerry Oh, the Cowboy fires. That plighting before me,
the plighted what pay fighting after me with.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
The second Brack and the Tucker six D.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Pick in the second round the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
A look.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
De Gorinson back from Colorado should do me. Hobo's it.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I forgot about that. Thank you, Thank you for adding
that on. It gives him some context.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Amazing. That is what a back and forth?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Which is I think that's the better one, honestly of
the two, just because he was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Except for the fact that you know, he trolled the
Eagles and they went out won.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The Super Bowl the next year.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
It just didn't cast in But ops, great television.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Was It was good television.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Love moments like that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Uh, Jase Dow what do you got.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Man, Drew Pearson? That was amazing. That was to talk
about a guy not shying down. I'm going to offer
up this nineteen ninety four of Bill Tobin's running the Colts.
Bill Tobin made the draft pick. Dan knows all the details.
I'm sure did it entail Jim Harbaugh? Something wrong those
lines or he's sure something. But Bill Tobin made a pick.
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Mel Kiper was on record as hating that pick, so
they put Bill Tobin on camera soon after.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Who in the hell is mel Kiper?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Going awe.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
I mean, here's a guy that criticizes everybody, whoever they take.
He's got the answers to who you should take and
who you shouldn't take.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
He's never ever put on a jockstrap.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
He's never been a player, he's never been a coach,
he's never been a scout, he's never been an administrator.
And all of a sudden, he's an expert. He's in
our papers two days ago telling us who we have
to take. We don't have to take anybody that mel
Kuiper says we have to take. Mel Kuiper has no
more credentials to do what he's doing than my neighbor.
And my neighbor's a postman. And he doesn't even have
season take us to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I mean, that's an all timer, al Teimer. I mean,
mel Kuiper's got scoreboard. He's doing what like his fiftieth
draft this year. And I don't remember the last time
Bill Tobin was on camera with.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Us, Bill timers still with us, still with us?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
How does Bill know that mel Kuiper's never won a jockstrap?
Come on, now, that's private. I see an arp, Doug.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I do remember it was after the Colts took Trevor Elberts,
but I did have to look up on who mel
Kuiper thought they should have taken, and you're mentioned of
Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It was Trent Dilfer, meaning.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That Dilfer then would have been the quarterback instead of
Jim Harbaugh for the Colts in the mid nineties. But
that's who mel Kuiper thought that they should take, Trent Dilfer,
who then I believe want to pick later to the Buccaneers.
But trev Alberts from Nebraska now the Texas A and
M A D was the Colts first round pick in
nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's pretty good, pretty good memories, and anyone else, anyone
else want to offer up a memory.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I will say this about mel Kiper, like when you're
watching the broadcast, Like growing up, ESPN was the only
avenue for us to watch, so you become connected to Kuyper,
and you come become connected to Chris Berman like those
you can put whoever you want in the middle of
those two. Those two are book ending it. I'm watching
the draft. I don't watch ESPN now because Berman's not
(17:25):
on the draft. But I also feel that the NFL
Networks product is better not only with Daniel Jerrol Maya
in Charles Davis and what they've done, but also I
think Mike Mayock really took the torch and carried it
and gave true breakdown of these NFL draft prospects, And
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to me, that's what changed the experience. So I will
watch for the certain faces, and I think that Daniel
Jerrol Maya has done a great job. Charles Davis is
so well versed in these players as well. Like, it
does matter who you have on set when you're watching
that broadcast and if you're listening to us on Fox
Sports Radio, I mean Joe Douglas, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington. Yeah,
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that's pretty good, pretty good analysis on on how you're
going to break down the pick. So it does matter.
I feel like Kiper opened the door, but I feel
that like Mike Mayock was the one who like really
hit the grand slam of being a true draft head.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
And yeah and being that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I agree we got to the point of actual analysis.
There have been plenty that have been up there during
this time that have not done the work, but the
all the guys you mentioned did do the work. I
the the problem with Berman was by the end, it
was so much about Berman and so much about what.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, you know, and the music references that were dated.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It was just it was one of those he was
caught in a time warp and and couldn't couldn't get
out of it, couldn't evolve out of it. That's midway,
the midway, Okay, So I want you to listen. This
is the This is the you can talk over it.
These are the fresh cheese curds.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You guys here a squeaking nurse.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yes, unfortunately unfortunate sounds yes, probably tastes better going down
than it sounds.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, it tastes delicious, but it's so different. And then
this is the traditional cheese curd is fry.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Wow, I hear, I hear the crunch is. I hate
hearing people eat.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This is terrible. I'm SORRYIM worse than hearing people.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I feel like I can with the cheese in your teeth.
A hold on, as I'm saying this.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So that is this is preferable.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Sounds like someone squeezing a bounty ball or.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Something exactly what sounds like. It's exactly what sounds like
a racketball. I will we will send you guys, some cheese,
some fresh cheese curds. This is Scrays cheese curds since
nineteen twenty four. They've been doing it since ninety they've
been doing one hundred and one years. They've been doing
this cheese curd thing. So get on board, boys.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Just what's that service.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
It's like gold gold Burgers or something. It's like they
gold Belly, gold Belly. They can find you these sort
of hard to find gourmet foods and then they can
send it anywhere in the country. That's we need some
gold belly from you. Those gold Belly gold be You
ever heard of this?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I had no idea gold.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Belly will get you all these different kinds of kind
of hard to find local regional foods.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, from Rountry. Yeah, it's amaze. Want a Philly cheese steak.
They've got a Chicago deep dish pizza. They got certain brands,
and it truly is everywhere. You pay for it. I
mean it's not cheap, but you can get it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Have you guys gotten in the vortex to that Facebook
guy I don't even know his name, he never even
says his name, who has a red headband and he
like travels all over Asia and all over the world
and eats these like random foods.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
No, I don't know, It's just.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm doing the old man thing on Facebook. Nobody else
does Facebook anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
But I love Facebook.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I love Facebook anyway, I do as well.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
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the shadows of Lambeau Field on Homegren Way, which is
one block away from Lambeau and Lambeau right now has
just been taken over by the NFL as they prepare
for tomorrow and Friday and Saturday's NFL Draft. Okay, so,
Rick Carlisle is coach of the Indiana Pacers. There's a
(21:52):
there's a player's only anonymous poll and it has the
most overrated player in the.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
League as a part of the pole. Right, So I'll give.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You the players who scored the highest. Hey, Tyrese Haliburton,
who by the way, is from Wisconsin, right ironically, and
of course he's they're up two games none on the
Bucks fourteen to four point four percent. Rudy Gobert ten percent,
Trey Young eight point nine percent, Jimmy Butler five point
five percent, Bradley Beal four point four percent, Draymond Green
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four point four percent, John Morant at that same four
pointo percent, Julius Randall, Joel Embiid, Jannison, Tenna Kupo is
on that list. Dylan Brooks, Paul George, Tyler hero making
the list. I don't know what Tyler heroes. How is
he rated? I'm not really sure anyway. I think I
know what's behind that one. So Haliburton, he scored the
(22:42):
highest in terms of percentage of votes for most overrated
player in an anonymous poll of NBA players. Here's his coach,
Rick Carlisle discussing, said pole, I.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Heard about this, and the other guys on the list
were Jimmy Butler and Giannis all right, and I want
to see I want to see the guys faces that
voted those guys. I want to see the faces of
those guys, all right, this is a pole. Not everybody
even answered in the poll. All right, guys were able
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to answer if they wanted to. They were asked on
camera or with a microphone. The whole thing's okay, And
and it's just it's really it's it's really a shameful thing.
It's just a shameful thing.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Why why is it a we're not allowed to call
somebody overrated? It's the most overused chant ever at high
school and college arenas all time, right, overrated. But the
general sense is that you're not as good as you're
perceived to be. And Tyre's Haliburton is a guy who
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has been an NBA All Star, And there's obviously a
lot of a lot of NBA players that are rolling
their eyes, going yay. The problem Carlisle's got two issues here.
One the biggest one is quite obviously he doesn't like
the anonymous poling, right, which is and we'll circle back
to that because people have this thing about anonymous quotes,
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as if somehow that's a bad thing, Right, How people
truly feel when you don't put your name on it,
you gotta be so tough, you gotta put your name
on things, like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
If you've seen the.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Backlash towards people with when you're honest with things, you'd
know why it's really hard to put your name on it.
But the part that's I think runs counter to everything
is on one hand, he's saying the pole is bull
then he says the poll is shameful, and then he's like, yeah, look,
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Jimmy Butler and Yanis are on it, So the pole
is invalid, Like which is it? Pick which part of
it you want. If you think, hey, look, if you
want to say Yanis and Jimmy Butler are overrated, then
the pole is dumb. It's a lot like what we
said last week about Time magazine. Right, I don't care
who the other ninety nine people are or one hundred
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people are in your most influential people in America. Ar
If you don't have Caitlin Clark, the poll doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So if you want to say, like, this poll is
invalid because if you want to say Jannis and Jimmy
Butler are overrated or Joelan Bead's overrated, well then.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You're an idiot. The poll should be invalidated. That's one argument.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's not a terrible argument, by the way, but it's
one argument. If you want to say that it's h
what he said shameful. Yeah, that's that's when you're like
the second grade soccer parent going like, you know, we
can't keep score at soccer games because somebody's feelings.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Are going to get hurt. Like, stop it already.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The guys are worth shoff a billion dollars. Okay, it's
not shameful to go like, you know, I don't think
Giannis is that good because he can't shoot.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He gets every call, all right, fine, But.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Then let's circle back to the third part, and I
think again, this is the biggest part is for whatever reason,
people have a huge issue with anonymous quotes, especially about
sports now anonymous sourcing. But put your name on it. Well,
if you put your name on something that where somebody
committed a crime, you didn't commit the crime. But if
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you put your name on it, you're like, hey man,
that guy taking steroids.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know what you're labeled.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You're labeled to snitch, a rat, a think a stool pigeon, right, Like,
we don't handle that, well, we don't handle people who
even say the most honestly, I mean again, perfect example is, uh,
you know I was I'm with Dan Patrick Elier today,
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and you know, so much goes back to you know,
I tweeted about Adam Schefter, and you know, whether or
not I called into his professionalism, he was the one
who tweeted out that Sacramento State had fifty million dollars
in nil. There's never been one retraction, never been one like, yeah,
I overdid it right. Instead, it's about the messenger, not
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the message. It's an attack on me. It's same thing
with with the Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know if you remember Jay stew we weren't
working together.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But when Andrew Luck retired, I said, retiring because because
the ankle injury is too hard to come back from
is the most millennial thing ever. The point was, okay,
point was that NFL players, like, for my lifetime, have
we been told they're the toughest gladiators ever? Rodney Lock
cut off his pinky to play in a playoff game. Right,
These are the things that we heard. And now a
guy's got an ankle injury, he doesn't want to come back.
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My point is that in that particular situation, people made
me part of the discussion when the discussion should have been.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Over whether or not Andrew luck should come back.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And then again in terms of anonymous sourcing, like Richard
Nixon never would would have still been in the White
House after uh you know after was it a watergate
if not for Deep Throat right now, for somebody who
was willing to tell the truth even though they could
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not put their name on it because they know they
would never work in the public sector maybe even the
private sector ever. Again, Jay Stu, which of the three,
because he's really taking three arguments? One is bullshit matter
because Giannis is on it and Jimmy Butler's on it.
Two is it's shameful to call somebody overrated? Three is yeah,
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anonymous sources doesn't do it for me? Which of the
three bothers you the most?
Speaker 6 (28:38):
As a broadcast journalism major and someone who really follows
and cares about the word.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Of anonymous sources?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
I mean deep Throat might be the most obvious example,
but there are so many. Edward Snowden, the name of
the woman that escapes that started the Wiki weeks thing.
These are names that had to be anonymous for the
public to know things that they needed to know. Daniel
Ellsber released the Pentagon papers to the Washington Post in
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nineteen sixty eight. That showed America just how devastatingly unfair
we were being at war. We were sending our own
kids to war to be killed over what somebody's ego.
Wyndam Baines Johnson didn't run in sixty eight because of
the Pentagon Papers. That was an anonymous source.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Ooh, did you go Pentagon papers on us? You're making
people's headspin. They just want to know who the you know,
they just want to go know who's going to the
New York Giants And you just went Pentagon Papers. I
think that's thankfully it's the middle of the day. That's
too much for an early morning show.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I would also say, Doug just done to piggyback off
of that. For sports fans, you would have no Jay Glazer,
you would have no Adam Schefter, you would have no
Ian Rappoport, you would have no Jeff Passing, you'd have
no Woes, no shams, noo.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's so dumb dumb talk, so dumb dumb talk.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The whole idea.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Of anonymous sources put your name on like, that's not
how the world works, man, it's not. You're never going
to get true insight if you have somebody, because our
slap back at people who who give honest thoughts of
what's really going on is so incredibly harsh, so incredibly harsh.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
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Speaker 2 (31:10):
Greet here as well.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's full house and we're getting ready for tomorrow night's
NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
We'll be back tomorrow, back here.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
On Friday as well with all the analysis, predictions, tomorrow
analysis on Friday. But before we get to all that,
let's get to everything else going on in sports. Here's
Dan Byer with the press, the Press, Danny, what you got.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Bud Dog?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It was one of those days in New Orleans for
Saints GM Mickey Loomis will start out in the Bayou
as Loomis held his pre draft press conference yesterday and
also today and also gave us an update on the
status of Saints quarterback Derek Carr. This was a snippet
put together by Fox eight in New Orleans. Let's just
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say a Mickey Loomis mashup if you will.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
To answer the questions Derek Carr. He does have an
issue with his shoulder. We're hoping he gets some resolution
and clarity on that in the near near future, and
when we.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Do, I'll report back to you.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
Otherwise, I don't have anything more to state about Derek,
but I'm open to any.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Pre draft questions that you might have.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
Okay, fair enough, I'm just not going to answer any
more questions about Derek.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
I mean that's this is a pre draft.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
If you have questions about the draft, then I'm more
than happy to answer those.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
But gotcha, yep, yep, yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
Again, I'm not going to answer any questions about Derek
at this time. Again, you know, this is a pre
draft press comfort. I'm not going to answer any questions
like that. We've got a lot of time between now.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
And the season. Do you want me to say that,
I'm not going to answer that right now.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Magnificent stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Andre Johnson, Next question, Andre Johnson TV on X posting
that matchup of Mickey Loomis today.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think we should have coach Obi. The spokesmanser for
their own day.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
With that clip of him talking talking French.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Oh no, no, you don't French, you can't. You'll like, hey,
what else?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
He got nothing else of the Saints except at or
around talk. Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't think that they're they're happy with the situation.
I don't think they want to take Shor Sanders again.
It's tanking for arch Manning. That's what you got to
do if you're the Saints, all right. The Pittsburgh Steelers
have had conversations with other teams interested in wide receiver
George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
That's according to Fox NFL and Cider Jordan Schultz.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Now, this doesn't fly in the face of what Omar
Khan said yesterday, but the Steelers GM did say that
the team wouldn't be trading Pickens even if they were
offered a second round pick. Schultz's report said the Steelers
aren't shopping Pickens, but other teams have brought him up
in conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, he didn't say what happens they have him a
first round pick.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
True, there is that we're not shopping.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But if you're buying, man, that's like to make me
move thing on Zillow. Yeah, I'm not realist in my house.
But if you want to pay me something stupid, sure,
knight yourself out.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I mean, if you're gonna keep Pickens in DK metcalf
like you're gonna need Aaron Rodgers to keep that wide
receiver room happy. Yes, you are no one else, no
one else will be there, all right, Doug. In other news,
King's GM Scott Perry said today that they're going to
make a decision within the next week or so on
what to do with interim head coach Doug Christi. So,
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Doug Christie's future in Sacramento up in the airs. The
new GM is in place.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know, it's really interesting right earlier this week? Was
it this week or last week? Right where Steven A
said that who was quickly becoming the worst owner in
all professional sports? Like you know Vivid rin a dve
now is he run out coaching? He wanted to have
a team play four on five on defense and have
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a cherry picker down at the other end of the hoop,
because that's what he did when he coached his daughter's
AAU team. I swear to God, he wanted to do that.
They did it in the G League. He wanted done
with the Kings. There's again still not to the former
Clippers owner level of horrible human being. But I'm honestly
pretty bad owner in his own right.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All right, guys, And finally we are closer to football
than you may have realized.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
We'll start with football, will end with some football.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Okay, Doug, Your Los Angeles Chargers will be appearing in
the Hall of Fame game in Ganton, Ohio. Obviously, Antonio
Dates going to be in Antonio Gates going to be
enshrined in Canton for the class of twenty twenty five.
So Gates goes in and the Chargers will be represented
in that Hall of Fame game against the Detroit Lions.
It will be played on Thursday, July thirty, first early
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starts of the NFL season this year, so the preseason
starts even earlier Thursday July thirty. First, you've got the
Lions and Chargers.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Two.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean to Honolulu Blue, and of course the charger
of Baby Blue, right powder blue. Two great colors of blue,
two awesome quotes as head coaches, and a game, a
game you'll get excited about and then turn on you're like,
I don't know anybody who's playing and this is not
really good football.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And Nickelback is in concert on the Sunday night to
wrap up the Hall of Fame weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Al Right, guys, you'll I won't be on tomorrow because
I'll be getting Nickelback tickets. I'm gonna sleep out and
it can't. That's it for this edition The Doug golly Show.
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home grew way Man. We got some people filling in here.
That's mostly because Dan Patrick and the dan Nets are
doing a meet and greet here, and what about forty
five minutes or so, we're also going to do a
cheese curd taste test. Not sure if you're aware, Bayer,
can you explain to people that there's actually two different
types of cheese curds that they don't actually understand, because
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right now Jay Stew's head is spinning and Iowa Sam
is like wait what and I even had that double take.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's two types of cheese curd.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Right from the raw as opposed to the deep fried.
Is that what you're talking about? Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And so there's the raw runs are squeaky.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That's what I'm told, right it make sure it squeaks
in your teeth when you eat them.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, correct, there is a similar texture if you have
had day old deep fried cheese curds. Like maybe not exactly,
but yes, there is a squeaky texture that you could
just buy. They're usually just in a plastic you know
bag in the grocery store from some sort of dairy
or creamery or whoever produces them. And yeah, you just
put them in the fridge and you can just have
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the cheese curds that way. Okay, I prefer the deep
fried I do.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't think anybody does. Anybody not prefer anything that's
deep fried.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Surprised a lot of people like the squeaky curds. They do.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think they do.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But again it's it's a little bit like we've had
this discussion about room temperature water. It may be better
for you and you may enjoy you think health benefits
from it, but no one sits there and goes like,
you know, what I really want is some warm room
to betrure water. No, you want ice cold water. It's
just like fried chicken. Like, who doesn't like fried chicken?
Now you may not eat fried chicken. He's like, I
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don't want to eat fried food. That's fair, but please
don't tell me it doesn't taste delicious.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's like every state fair you ever go to, they
just like, hey, you fried, deep fried twinkies, deep fried whatever,
and they're all amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yes, yes, Sam, Doug, random obscure fact for you that
you know that if you drink cold water year round,
your body will burn approximately twenty calories from warming that
water up in your body.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So so you burn more calorie.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Actually burn calories water. Yep, yep, But I don't know
like they say it's bad for you.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Is this a Wikipedia thing?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
This is something I heard on on the radio on
news radio.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
If you heard it on radio, then it's absolutely true.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I'm pretty sure it's true. It's one of those obscure facts.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I believe it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, but it kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Cold water, I guess not great for your throat, some say,
but it will help you burn calories twenty calories in
about a years. So what is that like one bite
of of a sandwich or something?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Not really sure.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. We'll do
our fact finding on warm versus cold water, and and
and the caloric intaking Clark burning. We'll also do a
little cheese curd challenge here at some point in this
hour of the show. But before we get to that,
let's do something we do every day every Wednesday. The
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Wednesday is the middle of the week. This is the
middle of the show. It's the middle of your day.
It's something we called the Midway.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's not getting the middle, It's time for the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Midway.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's so funny that Jay Stu came up with this
topic because last night I was over at the Legacy Hotel.
We have an awesome bar up on the sixth floor,
and this very topic came up because I was sitting
with the NFL network guys.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Go ahead, jay Stu with the topic for the Midway.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I asked the group text, how about the most memorable
first night draft moments on broadcast?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Most memorable? What comes to mind first?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Dan wanted to add or wrinkle to this, so he
wants to open up the possibilities of what you can
discuss in this particular midway.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, Dan, how would you like to open open that up?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I kind of wanted to to say my little piece
on what I love about the NFL Draft broadcast because
I think that there are there are things within that
broadcast that we sometimes take for granted, and we're going
to get into the moments that we remember. But I
think it's the little things that we have to really cherish,
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and the little things such as the graphic changing when
a trade is made. Like there is when the panel,
whether you're watching the NFL network or you're watching ESPN,
or you're listening to Fox Sports Radio on TV, when
you see the graphic change or you hear the there's
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been a trade, there is There's nothing like it. It
is a in a moment of oh my goodness, what
did they get? Who do they want? What is the deal?
Where did this team go? It's within that draft window.
I absolutely love it when you know that the team
is on the clock and all of a sudden, just
the graphic changes to a different team because of the trade.
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I find that that that's one of the little things
that I really really appreciate about the draft.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
There's also that the the the the when the pick
is in, Yes, right, I like that pick as is.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Is that is that how it goes that there's that
little pick is in sound whatever somewhere somebody either made
a whole bunch of money trademarking that thing or doing that.
I think it's for I think ESPN has that. I
don't think it's NFL network, But yes, that that is
the child.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Can I give you my two real quick?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You can, but I want to comment on yours. I
want to say something about yours. The other great thing
about the pick is in is when it happens. So
you know when the clock is winding down that okay,
they got down to the wire that they have to
do it. But when a team does it only two
minutes into their clock or a minute into their clock
doesn't happen often, But then you know that they wanted
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the guy, that they were waiting for that person to fall,
that they couldn't wait for the pick to come in.
I do think that sometimes the NFL will hold on
to it, or there are you know, in a commercial break,
so there's nothing that you could really do with it,
so you have to wait till they come back to air.
But the fact is is if a team doesn't use
their entire allotment of time, and they do it pretty early,
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it means that they want someone they've they've been waiting, correct, correct,
And I love that little thing about it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, okay, I I don't think this is arguable. I
have the two in my mind most iconic Draft night,
first night of Draft night moments, you ready, okay? Number
one is Laramie Tunseel Laramie Tunsell going viral. That was
the first true viral NFL Draft moment. Laramie Tunsell, who's
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a left tackle out of Ole miss And it was
in the very early moments of the draft. If you
were watching on when you had Twitter on, somebody tweeted
out a video of him smoking, doing a bong rip
with a gas mask on, and then taking the gas
mask off to reveal it was Laramie Tunsel, high as
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a kite, happy as can be. I don't know anybody
who doesn't who watches the draft, who doesn't wouldn't mark
that as one of the five.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Most poignant moments.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I agreed.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
The other one is when Aaron Rodgers sat in the
sat in the green room for you know, twenty three
picks till he went what twenty fourth to the Packers.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Ship is still on his shoulders, yeah, yeah, shoulder.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, so yeah again, just watching him and he's sitting
there and you're just like that was. There have been
other guys that have sat in the green room. I
don't remember there being quarterbacks. I don't remember them being
becoming first bout Hall of Famers or MVPs. And I
also like, very few do you feel like outwardly remember
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that moment, But he does, and he takes.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That on everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He has been exacting revenge for twenty years ever since.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
There have been players who waited before Warren Sap was
a long wait. But I feel that Rogers is the
pinnacle of it. And I think it's obviously because of
how his career turned out everything that the fall that
it was.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
It wasn't like one to five or.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
One to ten, think, I mean, it was one, and
then it was with Alex Smith and then it was
everybody else. I think that Rogers is the pinnacle, the
poster child of that moment.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
I think when when it happened with will Wevis, the
small takeaway was that he was put off that he
was waiting that long, But the big takeaway was everyone
thought his girlfriend was hot. And then in the in
the two years since, she's become famous for even more
things with will webs and I'll just let you google that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm gonna have to google that work.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
We mean it work.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Wait did they have a sex tape?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh my god, Yeah, don't do it?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Were they?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Really?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It puts Kim k and uh and ray J to shame?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Really did you watch it? In four? K J stew.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I was just doing research because I do sports contents
for a job. I had to.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I had to watch it many times.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay, I liked I liked that one.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I was, Sam, do you have any memorable I actually
I have another memorable person.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, hold on, hold on, I just want to just
want to clarify that is not Jason's submission. That was
That was the piggyback on the Rogers. That was a side. Yes,
so he's got he's got his own that I know.
He's ready to hold on hold on to unveiled.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And I think Doug's about to. I think Doug's about
to do what we call around here. He's about to
sam up the middle off three before I could offer one.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, you know what, You're right, I'm going to
sam it up. But here's the one content. Now here's
the one difference. Hey, Sam, what's the name of the.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Show, The Doug Got Lead.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
There you go show.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, do you remember Joe Thomas when he got picked,
like consin legend, literally on his boat, fishing, right on
his boat fishing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now, I have I fished? Yes? Am I a fisherman? No?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But if I was? I can't think of a better way.
Nothing says more like he won. Basically won. Every every
fisherman ever still remembers that moment. Most of us football
fans remember that moment, right, the one thing you love
to do most. You were doing that on your best
day when you're draft in the first round the NFL Draft,
unfortunately for him was the Cleveland Browns only team he
ever played for. But still Joe Thomas fishing iconic moment.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Kind of speaks to his personality. I mean, he's just
a laid back guy, just did his job, shows up.
He's not trying to go to the you know, he's
just like stayed in Cleveland his whole career. Lunch pail,
hard hat. That's Joe Thomas fishing on the weekends. All right,
would you like.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
To go to mine?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Now, Doug, very much. Let's go to the twenty eighteen draft.
The Philadelphia Eagles had just won their first Super Bowl
in franchise history, and the draft was being held in
at Jerry's World eighteen he Stadium in Arlington, and up
to announce the forty ninth pick longtime kicker for the
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Philadelphia Eager Eagles, David Akers, who kicked for them from
ninety nine to twenty ten and then he retired twenty
third team, so he did not get to play for
the super Bowl team. But he came up and he
let the Dallas Cowboys know who the Super Bowl champs
are and where they stand in the pecking order. Tonight,
I'm representing the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Ain't fe chaps, the visional jefs jams who Chaps? Oh
whoa jams?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hey Dallas?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
The last time the are the Super Bowl? These drops
picks what more? Now?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I love this sound because David Acres walks up and
he looks basically like he works in it or he's
an accountant. He's got kind of a receding hairline, he's
got glasses he doesn't and and his voice shrieks and
kind of splits, and it's just is great a trolling,
but he's like this big kind of no offense to
David Acres, great kicker. He's kind of a dork up there,
but he trolls so well and they are booing him throughout.
(13:00):
That pick would actually turn out to be Dallas Goddard,
who won us a second Super Bowl with the Eagles.
So there's one of my favorite moments. Now you're an Eagles.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Fans a second super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Did I say that?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He did? Oh geez, that's I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I live. There's a Freudian slip there. I know we
got to get to Jason's. But the thing with you
know why akers did that? Do you know why he
did that? Because the year before in Philadelphia, Cowboys, great
Drew Pearson did this.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
All right?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
How about them Cowboys? I want to thank the Eagle
fans for allowing me to.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Have a career in the NFL. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I am owner as an undrafted free agent to be
selected to make the Cowboys second round draft pick, and
I'll be half but the five time world.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Champion Dallas Cowboys hold up right, honor Jimmy Jones.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
T Jones and the Jos family coach.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Jason Jerry Oh, the Cowboy fires. That plighting before me,
the plighted what pay fighting after me with.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
The second Brack and the Tucker six D.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Pick in the second round the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
A look.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
De Gorinson back from Colorado should do me. Hobo's it.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I forgot about that. Thank you, Thank you for adding
that on. It gives him some context.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Amazing. That is what a back and forth?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Which is I think that's the better one, honestly of
the two, just because he was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Except for the fact that you know, he trolled the
Eagles and they went out won.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The Super Bowl the next year.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
It just didn't cast in But ops, great television.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Was It was good television.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Love moments like that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Uh, Jase Dow what do you got.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Man, Drew Pearson? That was amazing. That was to talk
about a guy not shying down. I'm going to offer
up this nineteen ninety four of Bill Tobin's running the Colts.
Bill Tobin made the draft pick. Dan knows all the details.
I'm sure did it entail Jim Harbaugh? Something wrong those
lines or he's sure something. But Bill Tobin made a pick.
(15:19):
Mel Kiper was on record as hating that pick, so
they put Bill Tobin on camera soon after.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Who in the hell is mel Kiper?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Going awe.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
I mean, here's a guy that criticizes everybody, whoever they take.
He's got the answers to who you should take and
who you shouldn't take.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
He's never ever put on a jockstrap.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
He's never been a player, he's never been a coach,
he's never been a scout, he's never been an administrator.
And all of a sudden, he's an expert. He's in
our papers two days ago telling us who we have
to take. We don't have to take anybody that mel
Kuiper says we have to take. Mel Kuiper has no
more credentials to do what he's doing than my neighbor.
And my neighbor's a postman. And he doesn't even have
season take us to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I mean, that's an all timer, al Teimer. I mean,
mel Kuiper's got scoreboard. He's doing what like his fiftieth
draft this year. And I don't remember the last time
Bill Tobin was on camera with.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Us, Bill timers still with us, still with us?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
How does Bill know that mel Kuiper's never won a jockstrap?
Come on, now, that's private. I see an arp, Doug.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I do remember it was after the Colts took Trevor Elberts,
but I did have to look up on who mel
Kuiper thought they should have taken, and you're mentioned of
Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It was Trent Dilfer, meaning.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That Dilfer then would have been the quarterback instead of
Jim Harbaugh for the Colts in the mid nineties. But
that's who mel Kuiper thought that they should take, Trent Dilfer,
who then I believe want to pick later to the Buccaneers.
But trev Alberts from Nebraska now the Texas A and
M A D was the Colts first round pick in
nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's pretty good, pretty good memories, and anyone else, anyone
else want to offer up a memory.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I will say this about mel Kiper, like when you're
watching the broadcast, Like growing up, ESPN was the only
avenue for us to watch, so you become connected to Kuyper,
and you come become connected to Chris Berman like those
you can put whoever you want in the middle of
those two. Those two are book ending it. I'm watching
the draft. I don't watch ESPN now because Berman's not
(17:25):
on the draft. But I also feel that the NFL
Networks product is better not only with Daniel Jerrol Maya
in Charles Davis and what they've done, but also I
think Mike Mayock really took the torch and carried it
and gave true breakdown of these NFL draft prospects, And
(17:45):
to me, that's what changed the experience. So I will
watch for the certain faces, and I think that Daniel
Jerrol Maya has done a great job. Charles Davis is
so well versed in these players as well. Like, it
does matter who you have on set when you're watching
that broadcast and if you're listening to us on Fox
Sports Radio, I mean Joe Douglas, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington. Yeah,
(18:06):
that's pretty good, pretty good analysis on on how you're
going to break down the pick. So it does matter.
I feel like Kiper opened the door, but I feel
that like Mike Mayock was the one who like really
hit the grand slam of being a true draft head.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
And yeah and being that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I agree we got to the point of actual analysis.
There have been plenty that have been up there during
this time that have not done the work, but the
all the guys you mentioned did do the work. I
the the problem with Berman was by the end, it
was so much about Berman and so much about what.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, you know, and the music references that were dated.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It was just it was one of those he was
caught in a time warp and and couldn't couldn't get
out of it, couldn't evolve out of it. That's midway,
the midway, Okay, So I want you to listen. This
is the This is the you can talk over it.
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Speaker 2 (19:10):
You guys here a squeaking nurse.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yes, unfortunately unfortunate sounds yes, probably tastes better going down
than it sounds.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, it tastes delicious, but it's so different. And then
this is the traditional cheese curd is fry.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Wow, I hear, I hear the crunch is. I hate
hearing people eat.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This is terrible. I'm SORRYIM worse than hearing people.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I feel like I can with the cheese in your teeth.
A hold on, as I'm saying this.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
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Speaker 5 (19:51):
Sounds like someone squeezing a bounty ball or.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Something exactly what sounds like. It's exactly what sounds like
a racketball. I will we will send you guys, some cheese,
some fresh cheese curds. This is Scrays cheese curds since
nineteen twenty four. They've been doing it since ninety they've
been doing one hundred and one years. They've been doing
this cheese curd thing. So get on board, boys.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Just what's that service.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
It's like gold gold Burgers or something. It's like they
gold Belly, gold Belly. They can find you these sort
of hard to find gourmet foods and then they can
send it anywhere in the country. That's we need some
gold belly from you. Those gold Belly gold be You
ever heard of this?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I had no idea gold.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Belly will get you all these different kinds of kind
of hard to find local regional foods.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, from Rountry. Yeah, it's amaze. Want a Philly cheese steak.
They've got a Chicago deep dish pizza. They got certain brands,
and it truly is everywhere. You pay for it. I
mean it's not cheap, but you can get it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Have you guys gotten in the vortex to that Facebook
guy I don't even know his name, he never even
says his name, who has a red headband and he
like travels all over Asia and all over the world
and eats these like random foods.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
No, I don't know, It's just.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm doing the old man thing on Facebook. Nobody else
does Facebook anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
But I love Facebook.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I love Facebook anyway, I do as well.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
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(21:31):
the shadows of Lambeau Field on Homegren Way, which is
one block away from Lambeau and Lambeau right now has
just been taken over by the NFL as they prepare
for tomorrow and Friday and Saturday's NFL Draft. Okay, so,
Rick Carlisle is coach of the Indiana Pacers. There's a
(21:52):
there's a player's only anonymous poll and it has the
most overrated player in the.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
League as a part of the pole. Right, So I'll give.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You the players who scored the highest. Hey, Tyrese Haliburton,
who by the way, is from Wisconsin, right ironically, and
of course he's they're up two games none on the
Bucks fourteen to four point four percent. Rudy Gobert ten percent,
Trey Young eight point nine percent, Jimmy Butler five point
five percent, Bradley Beal four point four percent, Draymond Green
(22:22):
four point four percent, John Morant at that same four
pointo percent, Julius Randall, Joel Embiid, Jannison, Tenna Kupo is
on that list. Dylan Brooks, Paul George, Tyler hero making
the list. I don't know what Tyler heroes. How is
he rated? I'm not really sure anyway. I think I
know what's behind that one. So Haliburton, he scored the
(22:42):
highest in terms of percentage of votes for most overrated
player in an anonymous poll of NBA players. Here's his coach,
Rick Carlisle discussing, said pole, I.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Heard about this, and the other guys on the list
were Jimmy Butler and Giannis all right, and I want
to see I want to see the guys faces that
voted those guys. I want to see the faces of
those guys, all right, this is a pole. Not everybody
even answered in the poll. All right, guys were able
(23:14):
to answer if they wanted to. They were asked on
camera or with a microphone. The whole thing's okay, And
and it's just it's really it's it's really a shameful thing.
It's just a shameful thing.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Why why is it a we're not allowed to call
somebody overrated? It's the most overused chant ever at high
school and college arenas all time, right, overrated. But the
general sense is that you're not as good as you're
perceived to be. And Tyre's Haliburton is a guy who
(23:50):
has been an NBA All Star, And there's obviously a
lot of a lot of NBA players that are rolling
their eyes, going yay. The problem Carlisle's got two issues here.
One the biggest one is quite obviously he doesn't like
the anonymous poling, right, which is and we'll circle back
to that because people have this thing about anonymous quotes,
(24:13):
as if somehow that's a bad thing, Right, How people
truly feel when you don't put your name on it,
you gotta be so tough, you gotta put your name
on things, like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
If you've seen the.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Backlash towards people with when you're honest with things, you'd
know why it's really hard to put your name on it.
But the part that's I think runs counter to everything
is on one hand, he's saying the pole is bull
then he says the poll is shameful, and then he's like, yeah, look,
(24:44):
Jimmy Butler and Yanis are on it, So the pole
is invalid, Like which is it? Pick which part of
it you want. If you think, hey, look, if you
want to say Yanis and Jimmy Butler are overrated, then
the pole is dumb. It's a lot like what we
said last week about Time magazine. Right, I don't care
who the other ninety nine people are or one hundred
(25:04):
people are in your most influential people in America. Ar
If you don't have Caitlin Clark, the poll doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So if you want to say, like, this poll is
invalid because if you want to say Jannis and Jimmy
Butler are overrated or Joelan Bead's overrated, well then.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You're an idiot. The poll should be invalidated. That's one argument.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's not a terrible argument, by the way, but it's
one argument. If you want to say that it's h
what he said shameful. Yeah, that's that's when you're like
the second grade soccer parent going like, you know, we
can't keep score at soccer games because somebody's feelings.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Are going to get hurt. Like, stop it already.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The guys are worth shoff a billion dollars. Okay, it's
not shameful to go like, you know, I don't think
Giannis is that good because he can't shoot.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He gets every call, all right, fine, But.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Then let's circle back to the third part, and I
think again, this is the biggest part is for whatever reason,
people have a huge issue with anonymous quotes, especially about
sports now anonymous sourcing. But put your name on it. Well,
if you put your name on something that where somebody
committed a crime, you didn't commit the crime. But if
(26:18):
you put your name on it, you're like, hey man,
that guy taking steroids.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know what you're labeled.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You're labeled to snitch, a rat, a think a stool pigeon, right, Like,
we don't handle that, well, we don't handle people who
even say the most honestly, I mean again, perfect example is, uh,
you know I was I'm with Dan Patrick Elier today,
(26:44):
and you know, so much goes back to you know,
I tweeted about Adam Schefter, and you know, whether or
not I called into his professionalism, he was the one
who tweeted out that Sacramento State had fifty million dollars
in nil. There's never been one retraction, never been one like, yeah,
I overdid it right. Instead, it's about the messenger, not
(27:04):
the message. It's an attack on me. It's same thing
with with the Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know if you remember Jay stew we weren't
working together.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But when Andrew Luck retired, I said, retiring because because
the ankle injury is too hard to come back from
is the most millennial thing ever. The point was, okay,
point was that NFL players, like, for my lifetime, have
we been told they're the toughest gladiators ever? Rodney Lock
cut off his pinky to play in a playoff game. Right,
These are the things that we heard. And now a
guy's got an ankle injury, he doesn't want to come back.
(27:38):
My point is that in that particular situation, people made
me part of the discussion when the discussion should have been.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Over whether or not Andrew luck should come back.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And then again in terms of anonymous sourcing, like Richard
Nixon never would would have still been in the White
House after uh you know after was it a watergate
if not for Deep Throat right now, for somebody who
was willing to tell the truth even though they could
(28:09):
not put their name on it because they know they
would never work in the public sector maybe even the
private sector ever. Again, Jay Stu, which of the three,
because he's really taking three arguments? One is bullshit matter
because Giannis is on it and Jimmy Butler's on it.
Two is it's shameful to call somebody overrated? Three is yeah,
(28:34):
anonymous sources doesn't do it for me? Which of the
three bothers you the most?
Speaker 6 (28:38):
As a broadcast journalism major and someone who really follows
and cares about the word.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Of anonymous sources?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
I mean deep Throat might be the most obvious example,
but there are so many. Edward Snowden, the name of
the woman that escapes that started the Wiki weeks thing.
These are names that had to be anonymous for the
public to know things that they needed to know. Daniel
Ellsber released the Pentagon papers to the Washington Post in
(29:13):
nineteen sixty eight. That showed America just how devastatingly unfair
we were being at war. We were sending our own
kids to war to be killed over what somebody's ego.
Wyndam Baines Johnson didn't run in sixty eight because of
the Pentagon Papers. That was an anonymous source.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Ooh, did you go Pentagon papers on us? You're making
people's headspin. They just want to know who the you know,
they just want to go know who's going to the
New York Giants And you just went Pentagon Papers. I
think that's thankfully it's the middle of the day. That's
too much for an early morning show.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I would also say, Doug just done to piggyback off
of that. For sports fans, you would have no Jay Glazer,
you would have no Adam Schefter, you would have no
Ian Rappoport, you would have no Jeff Passing, you'd have
no Woes, no shams, noo.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's so dumb dumb talk, so dumb dumb talk.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The whole idea.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Of anonymous sources put your name on like, that's not
how the world works, man, it's not. You're never going
to get true insight if you have somebody, because our
slap back at people who who give honest thoughts of
what's really going on is so incredibly harsh, so incredibly harsh.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
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Speaker 2 (31:10):
Greet here as well.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's full house and we're getting ready for tomorrow night's
NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
We'll be back tomorrow, back here.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
On Friday as well with all the analysis, predictions, tomorrow
analysis on Friday. But before we get to all that,
let's get to everything else going on in sports. Here's
Dan Byer with the press, the Press, Danny, what you got.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Bud Dog?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It was one of those days in New Orleans for
Saints GM Mickey Loomis will start out in the Bayou
as Loomis held his pre draft press conference yesterday and
also today and also gave us an update on the
status of Saints quarterback Derek Carr. This was a snippet
put together by Fox eight in New Orleans. Let's just
(31:55):
say a Mickey Loomis mashup if you will.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
To answer the questions Derek Carr. He does have an
issue with his shoulder. We're hoping he gets some resolution
and clarity on that in the near near future, and
when we.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Do, I'll report back to you.
Speaker 10 (32:10):
Otherwise, I don't have anything more to state about Derek,
but I'm open to any.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Pre draft questions that you might have.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
Okay, fair enough, I'm just not going to answer any
more questions about Derek.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
I mean that's this is a pre draft.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
If you have questions about the draft, then I'm more
than happy to answer those.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
But gotcha, yep, yep, yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
Again, I'm not going to answer any questions about Derek
at this time. Again, you know, this is a pre
draft press comfort. I'm not going to answer any questions
like that. We've got a lot of time between now.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
And the season. Do you want me to say that,
I'm not going to answer that right now.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Magnificent stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Andre Johnson, Next question, Andre Johnson TV on X posting
that matchup of Mickey Loomis today.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think we should have coach Obi. The spokesmanser for
their own day.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
With that clip of him talking talking French.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Oh no, no, you don't French, you can't. You'll like, hey,
what else?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
He got nothing else of the Saints except at or
around talk. Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't think that they're they're happy with the situation.
I don't think they want to take Shor Sanders again.
It's tanking for arch Manning. That's what you got to
do if you're the Saints, all right. The Pittsburgh Steelers
have had conversations with other teams interested in wide receiver
George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
That's according to Fox NFL and Cider Jordan Schultz.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Now, this doesn't fly in the face of what Omar
Khan said yesterday, but the Steelers GM did say that
the team wouldn't be trading Pickens even if they were
offered a second round pick. Schultz's report said the Steelers
aren't shopping Pickens, but other teams have brought him up
in conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, he didn't say what happens they have him a
first round pick.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
True, there is that we're not shopping.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But if you're buying, man, that's like to make me
move thing on Zillow. Yeah, I'm not realist in my house.
But if you want to pay me something stupid, sure,
knight yourself out.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I mean, if you're gonna keep Pickens in DK metcalf
like you're gonna need Aaron Rodgers to keep that wide
receiver room happy. Yes, you are no one else, no
one else will be there, all right, Doug. In other news,
King's GM Scott Perry said today that they're going to
make a decision within the next week or so on
what to do with interim head coach Doug Christi. So,
(34:30):
Doug Christie's future in Sacramento up in the airs. The
new GM is in place.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know, it's really interesting right earlier this week? Was
it this week or last week? Right where Steven A
said that who was quickly becoming the worst owner in
all professional sports? Like you know Vivid rin a dve
now is he run out coaching? He wanted to have
a team play four on five on defense and have
(34:54):
a cherry picker down at the other end of the hoop,
because that's what he did when he coached his daughter's
AAU team. I swear to God, he wanted to do that.
They did it in the G League. He wanted done
with the Kings. There's again still not to the former
Clippers owner level of horrible human being. But I'm honestly
pretty bad owner in his own right.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All right, guys, And finally we are closer to football
than you may have realized.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
We'll start with football, will end with some football.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Okay, Doug, Your Los Angeles Chargers will be appearing in
the Hall of Fame game in Ganton, Ohio. Obviously, Antonio
Dates going to be in Antonio Gates going to be
enshrined in Canton for the class of twenty twenty five.
So Gates goes in and the Chargers will be represented
in that Hall of Fame game against the Detroit Lions.
It will be played on Thursday, July thirty, first early
(35:45):
starts of the NFL season this year, so the preseason
starts even earlier Thursday July thirty. First, you've got the
Lions and Chargers.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Two.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean to Honolulu Blue, and of course the charger
of Baby Blue, right powder blue. Two great colors of blue,
two awesome quotes as head coaches, and a game, a
game you'll get excited about and then turn on you're like,
I don't know anybody who's playing and this is not
really good football.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And Nickelback is in concert on the Sunday night to
wrap up the Hall of Fame weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Al Right, guys, you'll I won't be on tomorrow because
I'll be getting Nickelback tickets. I'm gonna sleep out and
it can't. That's it for this edition The Doug golly Show.
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