April 24, 2025 • 30 mins
Doug riffs about the NFL draft and the makeup of this particular draft in Green Bay. Doug reacts to Lavar Arrington's story about his draft day. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Carmelo Anthony makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the bonus.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What it said, Doug Gottlieb Show, in the Bonus podcast
every day right here on Fox Sports Trade of the
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. We are live in Green Bay,
Wisconsin at the Bar and Home Gren And you're like, wait,
why do you keep saying the bar at Homegrow? Just
so you know, like, if you're not from Wisconsin, you're
not from Green Bay. There are other bars, right, this
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is the bar, but it's a little confusing because there's
the bar in other locations. You're like, wait, there's other
the bar bars. Anyway, regardless of which it is Draft Day.
We are here in Green Bay and it's a a
one of a kind, very very unique thing to have
an event of this magnitude, not necessarily just outside lambeau Field,
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but you know, weather always an issue. So since the
NFL has decided to move this thing around the country.
They were in Detroit and everybody survived last year. Now
they're in I guess God's country, right in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
As you had the first and quite possibly and maybe
likely only ever draft outside lambeau Field. It's Draft Day,
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so who knows what to expect outside of the weirdness
of this year. I think that's the only way Jay
Stu that where you can express it is it's a
little bit of a weird year. Right. We're in this
new era of college football where one you have a
college twall playoff, so a good portion of the regular
season doesn't feel like it mid matters as much. It
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was the first year of the expanded SEC and Big Ten,
so that took a little getting used to. And then
also the new world of paying players. We call it nil,
but it's just paying players and the transfer portal, which
hand in hand has player movement at an all time high,
which it hasn't affected ratings for the playoff, but it's
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definitely affected your ability to watch college football and understand
who's where you like, wait, he's where again? If you
dial back ten years ago, very very normally, you would
watch a college fotball player play at one school for
three to five years before he go to the NFL draft.
Because of anil which again is paying players. Now you
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have you have guys not a leaving schools, but far
fewer players leaving schools early for the NFL draft. Right,
so you'd have these agonizing weights of draftees on their parents' couch,
and sometimes they be there the first night, sometimes they're
the second night, and in the third day they're still
sitting there, and you're like, why would they leave? College football?
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Generally now those guys don't leave. So it's just different.
It's just different. And then you had last year's very
much quarterback heavy draft and this year quarterback light draft.
So it's a it's an odd draft on any scale.
But then when you consider this was supposed to be
the last year the COVID year seniors, you have nil,
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you have the transfer portal, you have the new Big Twelve,
the new SEC, the new Big Ten, and it's just
again strange. What can you expect? I mean, look all
honest expectations. SEC will have the biggest number of players drafted.
I think the Big Ten will have a greater number
of players drafted than they've had or at least percentage
in recent years, not because the additions of schools, but
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because they they have a bunch of money. So does
the SEC, and that's why the production has been better
in the Big Ten. And then you're very likely to
pretend like you know about these guys and don't really
know about these guys. That's the draft, that's the day,
and it is. It is just an odd space to
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be in where you'll have two hundred and fifty thousand
people outside of lambeau Field cheering for guys that play
a position that you never watch for a team that
you've known, ever seen, and you're arguing with the guy
next to you as whether or not it's a good pick.
That's that's like the reality of the NFL Draft. It's
a it's a bizarre one, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
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Speaker 2 (04:20):
Let's get to the Fox Says and now every day
in this time in the Bonus Podcast, you play portion
of a previous show on Fox Sports Radio or Fox
Sports One and then we get a chance to chime
in on it. Here's the Var Arrington College Football Hall
of Famer, former NFL star talking about his draft day experience.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same time,
just because of everything that surrounds it. But the guys
what were you stressed about. There's always something. There's always
something to stress out about. They negotiated before the draft,
the first pick negotiated.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I was back then. It was the same thing for me.
I was in.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But the difference between you and me was I was
negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating, so I
was on the phone. So I didn't I didn't feel
myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it because there
were so many people talking to me. My agent was
talking to me, both franchises were talking to me, and
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so it was kind of like I didn't get an
opportunity to really like take it all in because they
were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of the
entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you, but
you know, it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that it was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when
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you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know,
And that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like you know, I
want to be signable.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah. I mean, like, look, these are all kind of
first world problems that LeVar had, But it does show
that in the in the old days, when the signing
bonus was so much bigger, there was questions about whether
or not you could you could be signed. I mean,
of all the changes that the NFL has made throughout
the years, I mean, I think the best rule change
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they've ever made is moving the extra point back to
where it's a thirty five yard field goal. Now it's
a competitive play. But in terms of collective Barton agreement,
having the rookie salaries scale, it just made it so
much easier. There's so very few holdouts, if any. Usually
it's over some sort of contract language at the back
end of the contract, and I'm sure it saves a
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whole heck of a lot of stress for the current
draft class. This is Colin Cowherd earlier today on The
Herd talking about Shad or Sanders.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Here's my thing about Shuldar sliding to Pittsburgh. I would
rather go to Pittsburgh at twenty one than Cleveland or
the Giants with a second or third PA. I really
would Ownership stability roster composition and a patient franchise. The
Steelers have DK Metcalf, They'll trade the other receiver. They
have a very good tight end, Arthur Smith more than
capable at OC.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's a very good roster.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'd rather go there. Dan Marino fell in the draft
to Hall of Fame coach Don Shula. Do you realize
that the Jets could have picked him with Joe Walton
as a head coach earlier? Do you think he would
have ended up having Dan Marino's career. Patrick Mahomes went
tenth that year. If he would have gone second, he
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would have gone to the Chicago Bears. Andy Reid was
not coaching the Chicago Bears. You start looking at when
Aaron Rodgers fell to Green Bay. You know where he
could have gone. Mike Tice Minnesota or Mike Nolan, who
wore a suit on the sidelines for San Francisco. Would
that have been better?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I think with the current nil model, the fact that
your dad's the on Sanders, you were making sex figures
in college play the long game. I would rather go
down ten draft picks, twelve draft picks to a better franchise.
Dan Marino Aaron Rodgers are the two legendary drops in
the first round.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, listen, there's been legendary drops. I mean he failed
to mention Josh Rosen, who people thought to be a
number one, number two pick end up going ten, was
out of the league two years later. Right, Guys drop
for a reason. And I think the big thing for
Shador is, yeah, could you potentially be in a better franchise,
a better spot if you're with the pack with the Steelers.
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But there's a reason that he's dropping, right, is the
reason that people are concerned. Coaches are concerned that they're
gonna get fired, and his dad's gonna get hired. Maybe
a little bit is it that he holds the ball?
Probably a little bit is that it doesn't have a
crazy strong arm. Probably little bit is it that he's
not a quarterback is a guy? And Jason, you and
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I have discussed for years when a quarterback sits down
next to you and does an interview, and I would
say this is ninety five percent, And Jay stew if
you disagree with me, feel free to chime in. Ninety
five percent of the quarterbacks, when they get drafted, they
sit next to you, you would think they're your best friend. Like,
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I don't know Jordan Love terribly well, but I've hung
out with Jordan Love and he makes you feel like
your best friends. Aaron Rodgers the same way, and they're
almost They're like politicians where you can hate so much
about them in their political stances, and then you're with them,
You're like, I can't believe I actually liked this guy.
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And I don't know if Shador Sanders has that. Matter
of fact, I'm pretty sure he does not. Is that
people bringing in their baggage and their bias because they assume,
you know, he's a rich kidters boiled kid, and you
know he was born on third base, and people think
he acts like he he hit a triple. I don't know,
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but I can tell you that that's the feeling that
people get, and then you factor in I don't know
how good he actually is. I think there's a reason
for slippage. On the other hand, with so many teams
desirous for a quarterback, if he were to fall to
the Steelers, yeah, it'd probably be better for him, but it
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does say something about what the rest of the league thinks.
This is Dan Patrick and the dan Nettes live right
here at the bar earlier today. They did this bit
this morning, Todd, why didn't you do your stand up
act for Green Bay?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
How we're doing today, guys, I know, I know a
lot of you have been online since like two three
in the morning, so we appreciate the support.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Now, these are kind of jokes.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
They're meant to be fun and not to mean spirited,
so hopefully you'll take it with a grain.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Of salt to someone.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I lived in New York, in LA and getting my
bearings in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So no, when I want to get a fag that
this is just the fun.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Trip advisor has a list of the fifth teen best
things to do in Green Bay. Seems a bit ambitious
to me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I saw lambeau Field. I think I'm good. I'll pass
on the Botanical.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Gardens, David Buster's National Railroad Museum, and even packer Land Glass. Again,
guess we're just having fun here. But I actually love
Green Bay. But well, I can't find good Chinese food
that's potential. I moved to Green Bay and just learned
from my gastroenterologists that I'm lactose intolerance. With this aversion
to dairy products, I guess I have to move now.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I can't possibly stay living in her? Is it long?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
When I prefer a bag of cheese doodles over cheese curds?
Is that a problem for any I'm gonna go cheese doodles,
I can't have the fried fruit and upset, I ordered
a frozen tundra with the.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Dairy queen down the road.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They weren't particularly amused by that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They got to get a set some human these people,
I don't think they have a frozen to.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
If I desire inhumane freezing temperatures, I'd probably set up
shopping Alaska at the North Pole instead. I'm sorry, guys,
very dark support.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's more of a heck o than a natural as
no Major League Baseball, NBA or NHL.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
But hey, there's always the single A Rockers, the indoor
football Blizzard team, and oh yeah, that four and twentieth
college hoops team with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Goo, thank you, Todd, oh Fritzy endearing himself to the
good folks of Green Bay. That's what an amateur comedian
sounds like, not a professional comedian. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Say.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug. Mock drafts. Let's
talk about mock drafts. I think there's a short list
of maybe three to five people who could do mock drafts.
I know Daniel Jeremiah is one of them. I think
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lanceer Line does one that's reputable. Mel Kiper anybody else
should not be doing mock drafts. In fact, if you
dedicated a segment of your show to a mock draft
today and you're simply a content creator, influencer and or
radio host, you just mailed it in because there's no
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way you're going to be accurate. I know that the
one or two draft picks that you do nail, you're
going to brag about and then just forget about the
other twenty eight tonight. But it's empty calories for listeners.
Nobody wants to know who you think is going to
be taken. Where you could have people on to tell
you who's going to go where, But mock drafts spoken
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on podcasts, radio shows, TV segments empty calories.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Doug, I am agree, and again I'm gonna meet you
halfway there. Mock drafts just to do mock drafts aren't
really that interesting, but there is a if this then
that sort of kind of philosophy to it. Then I
know teams actually use their mock draft. That's actually the
part that surprised me is teams prep for the draft
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and they do mock drafts. If this then that, and
you know if because you have to plan and prepare
what happens. If you know, if Shador Sanders goes three,
or if Ashton Gentes goes to the to the Giants
there right and they try and right the wrongs with
with losing their running back to the Eagles last year.
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It's the it's the wildly outlandish mock drafts that have
no chance of happening from people that have no contacts
that just say, hey, this is what you know I'm hearing,
when they're just kind of making it up or they're
using internet rumors to make theirs up. Those are the
ones that serve zero purpose. So yeah, me and you
doing a trap and we don't have any real understanding,
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or we don't call people, don't call people with every
team and find out what's realistic. I would agree with
you there. I'll be chafway there.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I like, I like who I'm mixing the trades, you know,
I think the Vikings are going to trade up to five.
Like what now, you're taking it to another level of ridiculousness.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, the trades is is completely silly. All right, what
else is annoying you?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Let's see. Kevin Stefanski basically mirrored what we had heard
from their GM last week. Seems like the Browns are
taking Travis Hunter if he's available, right, Stefanski says when
asked if Travis Hunter will go both ways or can
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go both ways or full time? Okay here it is
uh not to get into the specifics, but Travis is
somebody who is uniquely equipped to do both.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
I remember having a conversation with him. There's only so
many hours in the day, so you're gonna have to
meet extra with the coaches. And he made a comment
about he's a fisherman. He gets up at five in
the morning, so that's not a problem in terms of
maximizing his day.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I fish, therefore I get up early.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Yeah, and Andrew Barry said something along those lines last week.
The Browns sound like they're going to completely give in
to Travis Hunter and his agent's demand that he plays
both ways. I'm going to be the guy on the
podcast every time that's going to remind people of what
winning coach John Harbass said about playing both ways.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
It's gonna be interesting to see how they do it
wherever he goes. But to say that you're going to
be completely immersed in everything that there is a known
offense and everything there is a known defense, I don't
know if there's enough hours in the day for a
player to be able to do that and to have
every detailed lockdown, but you certainly can do it. I
would think on one side of the ball and then
have some sort of package on the other side of
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the ball. Which is my guess is how the team will.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Do it wherever he goes.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
So maybe how about doesn't know he's a fisherman.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, or you're a fisherman, Well then that changes everything, right?
Oh oh you fish? Oh you're all good? Yeah. I
mean the weird part about it is you don't have
you're drafting somebody, you don't have to sell them on it. Right,
You're at a point of strength, not on a point
of weakness. This is not like you recruiting a kid
where the kids like, hey, I'm only going to play
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for you if I can play both both sides of
the ball, and then if you don't acquiesce, then he
transfers out. If you draft him, you have his draft rights.
Travis Hunter is not going to sit out because you
don't want to play him on offense. Like that whole
thing is like acquiescing to somebody who hasn't p a
drop in the NFL. It just seems weird to me,
but seems very very much like the Browns.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yes, as you're looking out at the crowd there in
Green Bay, I don't know what the what the breakdown
is tramag to not maga, but I promise you that
what I'm about to play is going to trigger some people.
So Donald Trump took it upon himself in the Oval
Office yesterday to address the Native American nicknames and what's
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happened to them in sports over the years.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
All of these Indians surnames and different names. And I'm
saying that I think that's a positive thing. And when
you go back to Indians, they pulled this. They don't
know why these names are being taken off they tried to.
I think it's degrading to the Indian population, and it's
a great population, and they like when they're called by
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various names. Now Washington the Redskins, perhaps that's a little different,
a little bit different. But I can tell you that
I spoke to people of Indian heritage that loved that name,
and they loved that team. And I think it's a
much you know, I think it's a superiod name to
what they have right now. And it had heretage behind it.
It had something special. But a lot of the names
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have to do with you know, different places, not just Indians.
But I think it's they change the name of the
Cleveland Indians. Why would you take the name Indians or
the Cleveland Indians and now it's called the Cleveland something
else regarded rights guardians.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
So, you know, we're about bringing common sense back to
this country. And it may be popular or unpopular what
I'm saying. And I just said to you, he's a
nice guy. He got a lot out of me on
this one, right, and I think most people agree with me.
It's it's I think it really is the meaning to Indians,
But to change the name of the Cleveland Indians as
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an example to the Cleveland Guardians is not the same.
And I'm sure it has an impact on the team.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
I mean, the most annoying part about this is that
I can't pinpoint what the annoying part about it is.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I can tell you what it is. It's the fact
that he refers to Native American people as Indians Like I.
I actually think there's some decent points made in there.
But he sounds he he sounds like the oldest. He
sounds just like your grandpa would sound. Yes, like my
my grandma would call black people colored people here, Like
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what what color? Grandma? Like you don't like, we don't
we don't say that, you know, but again, when you're
in your seventies or eighties, I don't even know how
old he is. Like yeah, he's like, oh they you
know these Indian names, Like yeah, we we don't even
use that term any or do we? So uh. Look,
I I I actually get and in many ways agree
(20:36):
with what he's saying. It just where does it just
like the stripping down of some historical names which happened,
you know, in the last ten years. Where does it
end in terms of restoring names? Right? Like, Okay, if
we're are we're now okay calling the Cleveland Guardians of
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Cleveland Indians. Are we then okay calling Stanford the Indians
or Utah the Indians? Right? Where does that? Where does
that end? I don't think we're going back. I just
don't do. I think that if you ask people of
Native American heritage, if Redskins was was more of a
point of pride. Again, every study has shown it was,
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and that it's it's that white people with white guilt
who are sitting there going like, yeah, we can't call
them redskins, which is not a term that anyone uses,
popular or otherwise. But whatever, I just I don't see
us going back. Like to you, maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong.
We've gone back in some of these other policies, but
I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I have no idea if it goes back. But I
think I just pinpointed what what annoys me about this somebody?
Because you're right, there are points were made that I
agree with, But I think it's the chicken or the
egg thing. I don't know if he says things that
he knows is going to piss off the other side
and making him the ultimate troll.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, or it's just him.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Being honest that triggering. I don't know which is which.
I never know what he's doing, and I think that's
what annoys me. I don't know if he's being serious.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, yeah, here's the thing again. And as I tell
you this, it's because I had a really good friend
that worked very closely with him in his first term
in the White House, and he was his big thing
was like everybody wants to know, and people will comment
on the strategy of what he's saying, like there is
no strategy. Please don't say that. If you say that
everyone knows, you sound like a dummy, because he just
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usually says either whatever he thinks, and usually it's based
upon what somebody who he was with that he likes
said most recently. So that would be a fascining anyone.
By the way, the end part I agree with, like
the common sense thing is, let's return to common sense.
That's a fairly center center sort of thought. I just
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don't know if we can get there right that common
sense actually prevails. What else or who else is it?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's it?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
So what Trump just says Stefanska and the Browns are
all in on both ways, and then people who shouldn't
do in mock drafts.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah. I would also say that that clearly pointed messaging
through the media on draft day is also super annoying.
You know, when you're like, Okay, well, why is pick
whatever insider you want? Why are they saying such a
thing like oh, well, they're clearly trying to get a
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guy traded, or clearly trying to promote a guy, or
just I don't I hear. Here's a question, JAYSU. Is
it annoying when people put out on social media pick
before the pick actually happens.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Something tells me you're gonna hear Jay Glazer do that
thirty times tonight on the Fox Sports Radio broadcast.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, I see, I think on the Fox Sports Radio broadcast.
I'm totally cool with it, right, I think on social media,
I don't know. I do think you let guys have
their moment. I do think you'll let them have their moment.
You know, so oft in the past people have made
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tipping picks, you know about the rights holder, the NFL
network in ESPN. That's not what I'm making it about.
I would say you let guys have their moment. That
would be my thing. And social media becomes so viral,
especially if you're an insider, like if Jay Glazer on
the Fox Sports Radio show says, hey, you know, Ashton
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Genty is going to the New York Giants. You know,
two minutes before we hear the commissioner read the card.
I don't think any harm is done, and it has
nothing to do with harming the broadcast. I'm talking about.
Ashton Genty has worked hard enough like this, this is
their moment. So I think it's a little annoying people
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that tip picks, especially on Twitter, right, reputable, super reputable
people tipping picks on Twitter. And again, not because I
care about ESPN or the NFL network's numbers. I don't.
I don't. What I do care about is like all
those kids are on their phone and the second you
tweet it out, it goes viral. They get updated, and
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there's no surprise, there's no real moment. You can't recreate that.
The I didn't know what was gonna happen in the
phone rang and it was Jim Harball on the other
line saying he's gonna draft me. What's the most annoying. Hmmm. Oh,
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there's one more thing that's annoyed me. I got one
for you, jays took. Steve Kerr is bothered and kind
of annoyed that the Rockets fans are yelling F Draymond
every time he gets the ball. Right, that's that's a
thing like the the idea that Draymond doesn't know or
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Steve Kerr doesn't know all Draymond has done to welcome that, right.
I just that's it's I get your covering for your guys,
but it's annoy This is Steve Kerr after the game.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
It's not not ideal when a crowd is channing F you, Draymond.
It's just, uh, I don't know. I would prefer, you know,
if if fans could use a little more discretion and
remember that thing. You know, the guy has kids. And
maybe I'm old school, but I'm all for the fans
cheering for their team and if they want to yell
at the opponent's grade.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But I don't know.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
I just think F you is it's a little much.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, but you know what else, a little much Draymond
Green's act is a little much. You know, Look, does
it make it hard to watch it and like, watch
your game with a because of what's being yelled, and
you can clearly hear on the broadcast it does. But
this is ten plus years of Draymond Green walking around
acting like an ass and sorry if you don't like it,
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maybe we should have corrected earlier. I think that's the
most annoyed the matter of fact, Steve Kirk, you're not.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
One name that's been in the news for the past
two weeks is Carmelo Anthony. But it's not the Carmelo
Anthony that spelled starts with a K, that's filled with
a lot of racial divide and bad, unfortunate killing. I'm
talking about Carmelo Anthony, who played with the Knicks. I
(27:49):
think he's a Hall of Famer. He's going to be soon.
He won a national championship with the Syracuse used to
be Orangeman. Now he was on a podcast talking about
carl Anthony Towns for.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Kat not to get a shot attempt.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That is that more on Kat?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Is not more on it's a it's at part on
him too. You know what I'm saying, Because you have
to be you got to demand that ship. You got
to demand the ball. You gotta demand Nikky JB go,
come on, let's get into one four five, one five
pick and roll. You gotta have the IQ to see
that and allow the coach. Got to be confident in
(28:30):
that too. Like Kat got to be a lot more
demanding of situations and in demanding it ball, whether it's
a score, whether to make a play. It was one
point in time Kat got the ball three straight time.
They ran the same play three straight times.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I love it. I don't necessarily I can disagree with
philosophically running the same play three straight times and if
that's a good or bad thing. I just actually like
this version of Carmelo Anthony. Right, Carmelo Anthony went from
completely egotistical offense only scoring machine superstar. Remember he I
(29:12):
mean he was the guy who was clearly playing for
stats during some of his time, especially at the end
with the Knicks, and then when he was out of
the league, he reinvented himself as a three point shooter
but also just a really good teammate that some of
the younger guys liked him as a VET and to
now being on TV and on podcast and sharing kind
(29:34):
of his basketball thoughts. I don't know, there's just a
it's different than Kobe's maturation, but there's some similarities in
and not a lot of people like Carmelo for a
long time in terms of covering league. I think players
have always liked him. He's a likable dude more so
than Kobe. Like people didn't like guys didn't like Kobe
in the league until maybe after he was out of
the league. But some of it was as fearce the
(29:56):
competity was some of it was Kobe's just could be
a little bit weird. You know. Kobe went through struggling
to figure out who he was member he's a rapper
for a little bit. I mean, Carmelo went through some
of that, but now coming out the other side, I
actually enjoy it. Why can we play that for you?
Because we can't. That's it for the end of the
Motors podcast. Check at the radio show every day three
to five Eastern twelve two Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app.
I'm Doug Golly
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the bonus.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What it said, Doug Gottlieb Show, in the Bonus podcast
every day right here on Fox Sports Trade of the
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. We are live in Green Bay,
Wisconsin at the Bar and Home Gren And you're like, wait,
why do you keep saying the bar at Homegrow? Just
so you know, like, if you're not from Wisconsin, you're
not from Green Bay. There are other bars, right, this
(00:30):
is the bar, but it's a little confusing because there's
the bar in other locations. You're like, wait, there's other
the bar bars. Anyway, regardless of which it is Draft Day.
We are here in Green Bay and it's a a
one of a kind, very very unique thing to have
an event of this magnitude, not necessarily just outside lambeau Field,
(00:52):
but you know, weather always an issue. So since the
NFL has decided to move this thing around the country.
They were in Detroit and everybody survived last year. Now
they're in I guess God's country, right in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
As you had the first and quite possibly and maybe
likely only ever draft outside lambeau Field. It's Draft Day,
(01:13):
so who knows what to expect outside of the weirdness
of this year. I think that's the only way Jay
Stu that where you can express it is it's a
little bit of a weird year. Right. We're in this
new era of college football where one you have a
college twall playoff, so a good portion of the regular
season doesn't feel like it mid matters as much. It
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was the first year of the expanded SEC and Big Ten,
so that took a little getting used to. And then
also the new world of paying players. We call it nil,
but it's just paying players and the transfer portal, which
hand in hand has player movement at an all time high,
which it hasn't affected ratings for the playoff, but it's
(01:59):
definitely affected your ability to watch college football and understand
who's where you like, wait, he's where again? If you
dial back ten years ago, very very normally, you would
watch a college fotball player play at one school for
three to five years before he go to the NFL draft.
Because of anil which again is paying players. Now you
(02:22):
have you have guys not a leaving schools, but far
fewer players leaving schools early for the NFL draft. Right,
so you'd have these agonizing weights of draftees on their parents' couch,
and sometimes they be there the first night, sometimes they're
the second night, and in the third day they're still
sitting there, and you're like, why would they leave? College football?
(02:44):
Generally now those guys don't leave. So it's just different.
It's just different. And then you had last year's very
much quarterback heavy draft and this year quarterback light draft.
So it's a it's an odd draft on any scale.
But then when you consider this was supposed to be
the last year the COVID year seniors, you have nil,
(03:07):
you have the transfer portal, you have the new Big Twelve,
the new SEC, the new Big Ten, and it's just
again strange. What can you expect? I mean, look all
honest expectations. SEC will have the biggest number of players drafted.
I think the Big Ten will have a greater number
of players drafted than they've had or at least percentage
in recent years, not because the additions of schools, but
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because they they have a bunch of money. So does
the SEC, and that's why the production has been better
in the Big Ten. And then you're very likely to
pretend like you know about these guys and don't really
know about these guys. That's the draft, that's the day,
and it is. It is just an odd space to
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be in where you'll have two hundred and fifty thousand
people outside of lambeau Field cheering for guys that play
a position that you never watch for a team that
you've known, ever seen, and you're arguing with the guy
next to you as whether or not it's a good pick.
That's that's like the reality of the NFL Draft. It's
a it's a bizarre one, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Let's get to the Fox Says and now every day
in this time in the Bonus Podcast, you play portion
of a previous show on Fox Sports Radio or Fox
Sports One and then we get a chance to chime
in on it. Here's the Var Arrington College Football Hall
of Famer, former NFL star talking about his draft day experience.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same time,
just because of everything that surrounds it. But the guys
what were you stressed about. There's always something. There's always
something to stress out about. They negotiated before the draft,
the first pick negotiated.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I was back then. It was the same thing for me.
I was in.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But the difference between you and me was I was
negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating, so I
was on the phone. So I didn't I didn't feel
myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it because there
were so many people talking to me. My agent was
talking to me, both franchises were talking to me, and
(05:26):
so it was kind of like I didn't get an
opportunity to really like take it all in because they
were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of the
entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you, but
you know, it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that it was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when
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you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know,
And that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like you know, I
want to be signable.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah. I mean, like, look, these are all kind of
first world problems that LeVar had, But it does show
that in the in the old days, when the signing
bonus was so much bigger, there was questions about whether
or not you could you could be signed. I mean,
of all the changes that the NFL has made throughout
the years, I mean, I think the best rule change
(06:22):
they've ever made is moving the extra point back to
where it's a thirty five yard field goal. Now it's
a competitive play. But in terms of collective Barton agreement,
having the rookie salaries scale, it just made it so
much easier. There's so very few holdouts, if any. Usually
it's over some sort of contract language at the back
end of the contract, and I'm sure it saves a
(06:43):
whole heck of a lot of stress for the current
draft class. This is Colin Cowherd earlier today on The
Herd talking about Shad or Sanders.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Here's my thing about Shuldar sliding to Pittsburgh. I would
rather go to Pittsburgh at twenty one than Cleveland or
the Giants with a second or third PA. I really
would Ownership stability roster composition and a patient franchise. The
Steelers have DK Metcalf, They'll trade the other receiver. They
have a very good tight end, Arthur Smith more than
capable at OC.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's a very good roster.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'd rather go there. Dan Marino fell in the draft
to Hall of Fame coach Don Shula. Do you realize
that the Jets could have picked him with Joe Walton
as a head coach earlier? Do you think he would
have ended up having Dan Marino's career. Patrick Mahomes went
tenth that year. If he would have gone second, he
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would have gone to the Chicago Bears. Andy Reid was
not coaching the Chicago Bears. You start looking at when
Aaron Rodgers fell to Green Bay. You know where he
could have gone. Mike Tice Minnesota or Mike Nolan, who
wore a suit on the sidelines for San Francisco. Would
that have been better?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I think with the current nil model, the fact that
your dad's the on Sanders, you were making sex figures
in college play the long game. I would rather go
down ten draft picks, twelve draft picks to a better franchise.
Dan Marino Aaron Rodgers are the two legendary drops in
the first round.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, listen, there's been legendary drops. I mean he failed
to mention Josh Rosen, who people thought to be a
number one, number two pick end up going ten, was
out of the league two years later. Right, Guys drop
for a reason. And I think the big thing for
Shador is, yeah, could you potentially be in a better franchise,
a better spot if you're with the pack with the Steelers.
(08:36):
But there's a reason that he's dropping, right, is the
reason that people are concerned. Coaches are concerned that they're
gonna get fired, and his dad's gonna get hired. Maybe
a little bit is it that he holds the ball?
Probably a little bit is that it doesn't have a
crazy strong arm. Probably little bit is it that he's
not a quarterback is a guy? And Jason, you and
(08:59):
I have discussed for years when a quarterback sits down
next to you and does an interview, and I would
say this is ninety five percent, And Jay stew if
you disagree with me, feel free to chime in. Ninety
five percent of the quarterbacks, when they get drafted, they
sit next to you, you would think they're your best friend. Like,
(09:19):
I don't know Jordan Love terribly well, but I've hung
out with Jordan Love and he makes you feel like
your best friends. Aaron Rodgers the same way, and they're
almost They're like politicians where you can hate so much
about them in their political stances, and then you're with them,
You're like, I can't believe I actually liked this guy.
(09:40):
And I don't know if Shador Sanders has that. Matter
of fact, I'm pretty sure he does not. Is that
people bringing in their baggage and their bias because they assume,
you know, he's a rich kidters boiled kid, and you
know he was born on third base, and people think
he acts like he he hit a triple. I don't know,
(10:01):
but I can tell you that that's the feeling that
people get, and then you factor in I don't know
how good he actually is. I think there's a reason
for slippage. On the other hand, with so many teams
desirous for a quarterback, if he were to fall to
the Steelers, yeah, it'd probably be better for him, but it
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does say something about what the rest of the league thinks.
This is Dan Patrick and the dan Nettes live right
here at the bar earlier today. They did this bit
this morning, Todd, why didn't you do your stand up
act for Green Bay?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
How we're doing today, guys, I know, I know a
lot of you have been online since like two three
in the morning, so we appreciate the support.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Now, these are kind of jokes.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
They're meant to be fun and not to mean spirited,
so hopefully you'll take it with a grain.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Of salt to someone.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I lived in New York, in LA and getting my
bearings in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So no, when I want to get a fag that
this is just the fun.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Trip advisor has a list of the fifth teen best
things to do in Green Bay. Seems a bit ambitious
to me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I saw lambeau Field. I think I'm good. I'll pass
on the Botanical.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Gardens, David Buster's National Railroad Museum, and even packer Land Glass. Again,
guess we're just having fun here. But I actually love
Green Bay. But well, I can't find good Chinese food
that's potential. I moved to Green Bay and just learned
from my gastroenterologists that I'm lactose intolerance. With this aversion
to dairy products, I guess I have to move now.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I can't possibly stay living in her? Is it long?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
When I prefer a bag of cheese doodles over cheese curds?
Is that a problem for any I'm gonna go cheese doodles,
I can't have the fried fruit and upset, I ordered
a frozen tundra with the.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Dairy queen down the road.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They weren't particularly amused by that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They got to get a set some human these people,
I don't think they have a frozen to.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
If I desire inhumane freezing temperatures, I'd probably set up
shopping Alaska at the North Pole instead. I'm sorry, guys,
very dark support.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's more of a heck o than a natural as
no Major League Baseball, NBA or NHL.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
But hey, there's always the single A Rockers, the indoor
football Blizzard team, and oh yeah, that four and twentieth
college hoops team with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Goo, thank you, Todd, oh Fritzy endearing himself to the
good folks of Green Bay. That's what an amateur comedian
sounds like, not a professional comedian. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Say.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug. Mock drafts. Let's
talk about mock drafts. I think there's a short list
of maybe three to five people who could do mock drafts.
I know Daniel Jeremiah is one of them. I think
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lanceer Line does one that's reputable. Mel Kiper anybody else
should not be doing mock drafts. In fact, if you
dedicated a segment of your show to a mock draft
today and you're simply a content creator, influencer and or
radio host, you just mailed it in because there's no
(13:29):
way you're going to be accurate. I know that the
one or two draft picks that you do nail, you're
going to brag about and then just forget about the
other twenty eight tonight. But it's empty calories for listeners.
Nobody wants to know who you think is going to
be taken. Where you could have people on to tell
you who's going to go where, But mock drafts spoken
(13:51):
on podcasts, radio shows, TV segments empty calories.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Doug, I am agree, and again I'm gonna meet you
halfway there. Mock drafts just to do mock drafts aren't
really that interesting, but there is a if this then
that sort of kind of philosophy to it. Then I
know teams actually use their mock draft. That's actually the
part that surprised me is teams prep for the draft
(14:17):
and they do mock drafts. If this then that, and
you know if because you have to plan and prepare
what happens. If you know, if Shador Sanders goes three,
or if Ashton Gentes goes to the to the Giants
there right and they try and right the wrongs with
with losing their running back to the Eagles last year.
(14:39):
It's the it's the wildly outlandish mock drafts that have
no chance of happening from people that have no contacts
that just say, hey, this is what you know I'm hearing,
when they're just kind of making it up or they're
using internet rumors to make theirs up. Those are the
ones that serve zero purpose. So yeah, me and you
doing a trap and we don't have any real understanding,
(15:02):
or we don't call people, don't call people with every
team and find out what's realistic. I would agree with
you there. I'll be chafway there.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I like, I like who I'm mixing the trades, you know,
I think the Vikings are going to trade up to five.
Like what now, you're taking it to another level of ridiculousness.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, the trades is is completely silly. All right, what
else is annoying you?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Let's see. Kevin Stefanski basically mirrored what we had heard
from their GM last week. Seems like the Browns are
taking Travis Hunter if he's available, right, Stefanski says when
asked if Travis Hunter will go both ways or can
(15:49):
go both ways or full time? Okay here it is
uh not to get into the specifics, but Travis is
somebody who is uniquely equipped to do both.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
I remember having a conversation with him. There's only so
many hours in the day, so you're gonna have to
meet extra with the coaches. And he made a comment
about he's a fisherman. He gets up at five in
the morning, so that's not a problem in terms of
maximizing his day.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I fish, therefore I get up early.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Yeah, and Andrew Barry said something along those lines last week.
The Browns sound like they're going to completely give in
to Travis Hunter and his agent's demand that he plays
both ways. I'm going to be the guy on the
podcast every time that's going to remind people of what
winning coach John Harbass said about playing both ways.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
It's gonna be interesting to see how they do it
wherever he goes. But to say that you're going to
be completely immersed in everything that there is a known
offense and everything there is a known defense, I don't
know if there's enough hours in the day for a
player to be able to do that and to have
every detailed lockdown, but you certainly can do it. I
would think on one side of the ball and then
have some sort of package on the other side of
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the ball. Which is my guess is how the team will.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Do it wherever he goes.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
So maybe how about doesn't know he's a fisherman.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, or you're a fisherman, Well then that changes everything, right?
Oh oh you fish? Oh you're all good? Yeah. I
mean the weird part about it is you don't have
you're drafting somebody, you don't have to sell them on it. Right,
You're at a point of strength, not on a point
of weakness. This is not like you recruiting a kid
where the kids like, hey, I'm only going to play
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for you if I can play both both sides of
the ball, and then if you don't acquiesce, then he
transfers out. If you draft him, you have his draft rights.
Travis Hunter is not going to sit out because you
don't want to play him on offense. Like that whole
thing is like acquiescing to somebody who hasn't p a
drop in the NFL. It just seems weird to me,
but seems very very much like the Browns.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yes, as you're looking out at the crowd there in
Green Bay, I don't know what the what the breakdown
is tramag to not maga, but I promise you that
what I'm about to play is going to trigger some people.
So Donald Trump took it upon himself in the Oval
Office yesterday to address the Native American nicknames and what's
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happened to them in sports over the years.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
All of these Indians surnames and different names. And I'm
saying that I think that's a positive thing. And when
you go back to Indians, they pulled this. They don't
know why these names are being taken off they tried to.
I think it's degrading to the Indian population, and it's
a great population, and they like when they're called by
(18:38):
various names. Now Washington the Redskins, perhaps that's a little different,
a little bit different. But I can tell you that
I spoke to people of Indian heritage that loved that name,
and they loved that team. And I think it's a
much you know, I think it's a superiod name to
what they have right now. And it had heretage behind it.
It had something special. But a lot of the names
(18:59):
have to do with you know, different places, not just Indians.
But I think it's they change the name of the
Cleveland Indians. Why would you take the name Indians or
the Cleveland Indians and now it's called the Cleveland something
else regarded rights guardians.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
So, you know, we're about bringing common sense back to
this country. And it may be popular or unpopular what
I'm saying. And I just said to you, he's a
nice guy. He got a lot out of me on
this one, right, and I think most people agree with me.
It's it's I think it really is the meaning to Indians,
But to change the name of the Cleveland Indians as
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an example to the Cleveland Guardians is not the same.
And I'm sure it has an impact on the team.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
I mean, the most annoying part about this is that
I can't pinpoint what the annoying part about it is.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I can tell you what it is. It's the fact
that he refers to Native American people as Indians Like I.
I actually think there's some decent points made in there.
But he sounds he he sounds like the oldest. He
sounds just like your grandpa would sound. Yes, like my
my grandma would call black people colored people here, Like
(20:13):
what what color? Grandma? Like you don't like, we don't
we don't say that, you know, but again, when you're
in your seventies or eighties, I don't even know how
old he is. Like yeah, he's like, oh they you
know these Indian names, Like yeah, we we don't even
use that term any or do we? So uh. Look,
I I I actually get and in many ways agree
(20:36):
with what he's saying. It just where does it just
like the stripping down of some historical names which happened,
you know, in the last ten years. Where does it
end in terms of restoring names? Right? Like, Okay, if
we're are we're now okay calling the Cleveland Guardians of
(20:57):
Cleveland Indians. Are we then okay calling Stanford the Indians
or Utah the Indians? Right? Where does that? Where does
that end? I don't think we're going back. I just
don't do. I think that if you ask people of
Native American heritage, if Redskins was was more of a
point of pride. Again, every study has shown it was,
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and that it's it's that white people with white guilt
who are sitting there going like, yeah, we can't call
them redskins, which is not a term that anyone uses,
popular or otherwise. But whatever, I just I don't see
us going back. Like to you, maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong.
We've gone back in some of these other policies, but
I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I have no idea if it goes back. But I
think I just pinpointed what what annoys me about this somebody?
Because you're right, there are points were made that I
agree with, But I think it's the chicken or the
egg thing. I don't know if he says things that
he knows is going to piss off the other side
and making him the ultimate troll.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, or it's just him.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Being honest that triggering. I don't know which is which.
I never know what he's doing, and I think that's
what annoys me. I don't know if he's being serious.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, yeah, here's the thing again. And as I tell
you this, it's because I had a really good friend
that worked very closely with him in his first term
in the White House, and he was his big thing
was like everybody wants to know, and people will comment
on the strategy of what he's saying, like there is
no strategy. Please don't say that. If you say that
everyone knows, you sound like a dummy, because he just
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usually says either whatever he thinks, and usually it's based
upon what somebody who he was with that he likes
said most recently. So that would be a fascining anyone.
By the way, the end part I agree with, like
the common sense thing is, let's return to common sense.
That's a fairly center center sort of thought. I just
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don't know if we can get there right that common
sense actually prevails. What else or who else is it?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's it?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
So what Trump just says Stefanska and the Browns are
all in on both ways, and then people who shouldn't
do in mock drafts.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah. I would also say that that clearly pointed messaging
through the media on draft day is also super annoying.
You know, when you're like, Okay, well, why is pick
whatever insider you want? Why are they saying such a
thing like oh, well, they're clearly trying to get a
(23:29):
guy traded, or clearly trying to promote a guy, or
just I don't I hear. Here's a question, JAYSU. Is
it annoying when people put out on social media pick
before the pick actually happens.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Something tells me you're gonna hear Jay Glazer do that
thirty times tonight on the Fox Sports Radio broadcast.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, I see, I think on the Fox Sports Radio broadcast.
I'm totally cool with it, right, I think on social media,
I don't know. I do think you let guys have
their moment. I do think you'll let them have their moment.
You know, so oft in the past people have made
(24:11):
tipping picks, you know about the rights holder, the NFL
network in ESPN. That's not what I'm making it about.
I would say you let guys have their moment. That
would be my thing. And social media becomes so viral,
especially if you're an insider, like if Jay Glazer on
the Fox Sports Radio show says, hey, you know, Ashton
(24:34):
Genty is going to the New York Giants. You know,
two minutes before we hear the commissioner read the card.
I don't think any harm is done, and it has
nothing to do with harming the broadcast. I'm talking about.
Ashton Genty has worked hard enough like this, this is
their moment. So I think it's a little annoying people
(24:57):
that tip picks, especially on Twitter, right, reputable, super reputable
people tipping picks on Twitter. And again, not because I
care about ESPN or the NFL network's numbers. I don't.
I don't. What I do care about is like all
those kids are on their phone and the second you
tweet it out, it goes viral. They get updated, and
(25:19):
there's no surprise, there's no real moment. You can't recreate that.
The I didn't know what was gonna happen in the
phone rang and it was Jim Harball on the other
line saying he's gonna draft me. What's the most annoying. Hmmm. Oh,
(25:42):
there's one more thing that's annoyed me. I got one
for you, jays took. Steve Kerr is bothered and kind
of annoyed that the Rockets fans are yelling F Draymond
every time he gets the ball. Right, that's that's a
thing like the the idea that Draymond doesn't know or
(26:05):
Steve Kerr doesn't know all Draymond has done to welcome that, right.
I just that's it's I get your covering for your guys,
but it's annoy This is Steve Kerr after the game.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
It's not not ideal when a crowd is channing F you, Draymond.
It's just, uh, I don't know. I would prefer, you know,
if if fans could use a little more discretion and
remember that thing. You know, the guy has kids. And
maybe I'm old school, but I'm all for the fans
cheering for their team and if they want to yell
at the opponent's grade.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But I don't know.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
I just think F you is it's a little much.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, but you know what else, a little much Draymond
Green's act is a little much. You know, Look, does
it make it hard to watch it and like, watch
your game with a because of what's being yelled, and
you can clearly hear on the broadcast it does. But
this is ten plus years of Draymond Green walking around
acting like an ass and sorry if you don't like it,
(27:12):
maybe we should have corrected earlier. I think that's the
most annoyed the matter of fact, Steve Kirk, you're not.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
One name that's been in the news for the past
two weeks is Carmelo Anthony. But it's not the Carmelo
Anthony that spelled starts with a K, that's filled with
a lot of racial divide and bad, unfortunate killing. I'm
talking about Carmelo Anthony, who played with the Knicks. I
(27:49):
think he's a Hall of Famer. He's going to be soon.
He won a national championship with the Syracuse used to
be Orangeman. Now he was on a podcast talking about
carl Anthony Towns for.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Kat not to get a shot attempt.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That is that more on Kat?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Is not more on it's a it's at part on
him too. You know what I'm saying, Because you have
to be you got to demand that ship. You got
to demand the ball. You gotta demand Nikky JB go,
come on, let's get into one four five, one five
pick and roll. You gotta have the IQ to see
that and allow the coach. Got to be confident in
(28:30):
that too. Like Kat got to be a lot more
demanding of situations and in demanding it ball, whether it's
a score, whether to make a play. It was one
point in time Kat got the ball three straight time.
They ran the same play three straight times.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I love it. I don't necessarily I can disagree with
philosophically running the same play three straight times and if
that's a good or bad thing. I just actually like
this version of Carmelo Anthony. Right, Carmelo Anthony went from
completely egotistical offense only scoring machine superstar. Remember he I
(29:12):
mean he was the guy who was clearly playing for
stats during some of his time, especially at the end
with the Knicks, and then when he was out of
the league, he reinvented himself as a three point shooter
but also just a really good teammate that some of
the younger guys liked him as a VET and to
now being on TV and on podcast and sharing kind
(29:34):
of his basketball thoughts. I don't know, there's just a
it's different than Kobe's maturation, but there's some similarities in
and not a lot of people like Carmelo for a
long time in terms of covering league. I think players
have always liked him. He's a likable dude more so
than Kobe. Like people didn't like guys didn't like Kobe
in the league until maybe after he was out of
the league. But some of it was as fearce the
(29:56):
competity was some of it was Kobe's just could be
a little bit weird. You know. Kobe went through struggling
to figure out who he was member he's a rapper
for a little bit. I mean, Carmelo went through some
of that, but now coming out the other side, I
actually enjoy it. Why can we play that for you?
Because we can't. That's it for the end of the
Motors podcast. Check at the radio show every day three
to five Eastern twelve two Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app.
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