April 22, 2025 • 33 mins
On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the great performance Kawhi Leonard had Monday night leading the Clippers to a game 2 win over the Nuggets in the first round of their playoffs, and Doug tells you that he told you so about Kawhi.
Doug welcomes former NBA champ Antonio Daniels onto the show to talk about Kawhi Leonard, the Lakers and all of the other big headlines around the NBA.
Doug welcomes comedian Frank Caliendo onto walk us through some of his great impressions.
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Welcome in, Frank Caliendo, my dear friend and I Award
winning comedian from that You might remember him from tonight show.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hey, now he'll join us.
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We got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
John Middlekoff will be our guest a little bit later
on this hour as well. Of course, he's getting ready
for the NFL Draft. You can hear his podcast on
the Volume podcast Network. Let's let's talk to NBA really quickly,
because I do feel like of the islands that I
remain on, the Kawhi Leonard island has been a very
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very lonely one because there have been times in which
you're trying to go like, yeah, when he's really healthy,
Kawhi Leonard is you know, you go back to last year,
you know, or two years ago. There are times in
which he's playing like Kawhi Leonard might be the best
player in the NBA. You know, he can score it
all three levels. He's an unbelievable defender, he can rebound.
There's things that he does that none of the other
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stars in the NBA does. But because he has not
been healthy in a postseason since he won NBA Championship
with the Toronto Raptors, he gets lost in this conversation.
And if you guys, remember when was it Stephen A.
Smith who called him the worst superstar ever and said
I believe last year he should retire. I said, that's blasphemy.
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It ain't his fault. He's been hurt. So what happened since? Well,
last night, if you, in case you missed it, in
the NBA, Kawhi Leonard comes up clutch right. His clutch
gene was on full display as the Clippers go into
Denver and pull off an upset Kawhi Leonard not only
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had thirty nine points and five assists and three rebounds,
but he had thirty nine points on nineteen shots, nineteen shots,
fifteen of nineteen from the floor, four of seven from three,
made all five of his free throws in thirty nine
minutes of action. It was an absolute virtuoso last night.
If you're the guy and I've been that guy that says, hey,
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Kawhi Leonard might be the best player in the NBA,
you look like a smart guy again, Does it mean
he is? Because Jokic, who had a triple double, has
been great more consistently and has been hurt less often
and is a magnificent player in his own right. The
point is that because of injury, we started to question
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the future or even the present day and the historic
greatness of Kawhi Leonard, and last night he reminded all
of us how good he actually is when he's healthy.
Here's ty Lewis, head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
This is what kawhile is for, you know, trying to
get to this point where he's healthy for the playoffs.
And we know if we got a healthy Kowhi, we
can win any series. And that just shows you tonight,
you know what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Here's Jame.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
One gives up on him, he comes back, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And so.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean he's a hard worker. He's dedicated, like I said,
to keeping his body right. And sometimes you just, you know,
some unfortunate things happen. You know, you can't control that.
But it's not from a lack of work, it's not
from a lack of wanting to be here, and just
sometimes some bad luck kids. But he's going to keep
coming back and he's going to get to this point
like he is right now, and that's why I'm just
so happy for him.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
James Harden had this exchange with a reporter about Kawhi.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
His career at the stopping start nature, all the things
he's gone through, do you think and he keeps coming back,
do you think he gets the appreciation from people for
what he's en dirt and coming back from.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Nah, not even a little bit.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
It's always negative. It's always you know, what he's been
through and what he's not able to do just because
of something that he can't control. But we don't appreciate
how great he is when he's actually out there and
putting on performances like this tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Let's let's reset this and be honest about it. The
Clippers brass today should be high fiving themselves and should
be doing cartwheels, right they should. You know, Trent Reddens
their GM and last year Trent and their president Lauren Frank,
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they all made a really really hard decision. They said,
we're not going to re up Paul George at a
max rate and we are with Kawhi Leonard. And people
thought they were crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They did.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Kawi has heard all the time Paul George playoff beat.
Maybe he's not the star, but like, how can you
how can you let Paul George go to the Sixers?
Why would you do such things? Why would you undervalue
Paul George? Which of the two players looks over the hill.
Now that's Paul George and which of them went healthy.
And there was a time at the start of the
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year when people thought everyone thought Kawhi might not play
at all this year. But in risky moves, and granted
it's not as risky as Nico Harrison trading away Luka
Doncik for Anthony Davis, who was hurt at the time
and hurt throughout the season, But still those are risky
moves where you're betting on all of your analysis and
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what you think is going to happen in the future,
and it is not.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It is not an exact science.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think today the the the Kawhi Leonard haters look
so uneducated, so foolish, so prone to hyperbole because they're
prisoners of the moment. They can't even realize how wrong
they were. And Trent Redden and the Clippers brass looks
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like they did a great job of evaluating between Paul
George and Kawhi Leonard.
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Antonio Daniels, of course, played thirteen years in the NBA.
Is a member of the Spurs championship team in ninety nine.
He's currently the color analyst for the New Orleans Pelicans,
and he's kind enough to join us and give us
his thoughts on the play, which I thought last night
was an amazing night in basketball. Right, you have Detroit
going into New York cade Cunningham helping them get a win,
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and then the nightcap Clippers came close in game one
Game two, Kawhi Leonard was the best player on the floor,
despite the fact he's playing against a guy widely regarded
as the best player in the world. Tony is a
guy who played in this League's covered this league, and
of course you being a former Spur, what are your
thoughts on Kawhi and when he's been able to put
together here?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, you know, this is one of those situations where
where low management actually has worked thus far. And again
it's only a small is the two games several side,
But if you look at the minutes that Kawhi Leonard
played this year, he's played eleven eighty minutes this year.
Nikola Jokis just played over twenty five hundred minutes, So
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you're looking at it different of two times as many
minutes played by Nikola Jokis at the post to Kawhi Leonard.
And in the first two games, again we only talking
about a two simple size, but in these two games,
Kawhi Leonard looks a lot fresher. The Ko looks tired,
not just physically but also mentally because this team needs
him to do a lot. And what kind of bothered
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me about yesterday's game, and we talked about this on
our Seriah S XM show, is they allow Kawhi Leonard
to dictate the terms of engagement. You know, every time
the Kola Jokic touched the basketball, he was double team.
Every time he touched the ball, they ran two guys
at him, they ran three guys at him. Can you
remember a time yesterday, Doug where the ball was taken
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out of Kawhi Leonard's hand deliberately and they were saying
to themselves, We're not going to allow Kawhi Leonard to
beat us, even though he has it going on this
particular night.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No me neither.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's why he was the best player on the floor yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Agree with you, okay, So what do you think of
this series? Again, there's two games then you playing a
bunch of these adjustments are made. What's it like the
Copper the Clippers are able to win this series?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think the likelihoods. I picked Denver. I picked Denver
in six h The thing is, I feel like Toron
lou is one of the best coaches in the league
as far as in game and postgame assessment to concern.
He does a fantastic job of doing just that, like
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knowing what needs to be taken away, taking something away.
And right now, it really doesn't look like the different
Nuggets have enough. It doesn't. You can make an argument
that they should have lost Game one if the Clippers
were more were more focused. But now it's one to ones.
Going back to la and if Nicola Yokis doesn't go nuclear, right,
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if he doesn't give you a thirty point triple double,
a forty point triple double, whatever it may be, I
can't see Denver pulling this series result because I don't
think they have enough firepower.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, it's interesting, I mean, what do they really have,
especially off the bench outside of Russ, And Russ is
so enigmatic even when he's good, I don't know if
he has enough help off that bench. I think you
bring up a lot of really, really, really good points.
The Warriors go in and win Game one against the Rockets.
This Rockets crew individually, you have some guys that have
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had a lot of success in the playoffs, but collectively
not a ton. How much of that is matchups? How
much of that is Hey, it's their first playoff game
and they'll adjust.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I feel like it's all matchups I do. And no
disrespect to the Houston Rockets. There are certain teams right
now that are playing that I feel like it's a
awful matchup for them, the Knicks and Detroit. If I'm
the Knicks, I don't want to play Detroit first round.
If I'm the Lakers, I don't want to play Minnesota
first round. Right if I'm the Rockets, I don't want
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to play Golden State first round, regardless of seat. Because
it's about matchups. They say, styles make fights. Sometimes you
can play against the team that everything that you're not
good at they are good at. Right, everything that you
don't have with your team, they do have. And when
you look at Golden State and Houston, Houston has excellent
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point of attack defenders, right, Aman Thompson and Tory Easton
and Dylan Brooks. These guys are excellent point of attack defenders.
You know what Golden State doesn't have. They don't have
point of attack offensive players. They don't have guys that
are trying to beat you off the dribble and break
you down. Right. Their offense is geared and based on
movement and screening and slits and read and reactions, and
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so what Houston does well kind of offsets what Golden
State does well. So I think this is a really, really,
really tough matchup for the Houston Rockets. And I think
for CERA six, Tim, I believe I picked Golden State
in five, I pick them six. I pick Golden State
and six.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Did you like Minnesota as well?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I know I like the Lakers, But I feel like
this is the toughest matchup in the Western Conference that
the Lakers could have had first round. Like anybody else,
Oklahoma City, Memphis, the Clippers, Denver. I feel like this
is the toughest matchup that the Lakers could have had
first round because of Fne Edwards. One, because of Fne Edwards.
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He's a guy that's excellent offensively and he can point
out where he wants. He has certain guys that he
wants to target. He can target Luca, he can target
Arson Reeves, he can target Lebron's names. And the other
thing that Memphis has is they have size and physicality.
You know what the Lakers don't have. They don't have
size and they don't have physicality. Minnesota has the ability
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and the versatility to play small ball, but the Lakers
don't have the versatility to play big ball. As big
as they can get at Jackson Hayes and is he
big and strong enough to contain Rudy Gobert, nas Reeds
and Juliet's rend.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Again, I look at this and Everybody's going to point
to the threes that Minnesota made in Game one. I
just think it's because the Lakers couldn't guard him, so
you got to help with somebody, you help, and they
hit open threes, right and again, when you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Have a guy that SA's good offensively at Anthony Edwards.
We had a caller call in the show today and say, well,
you know what, if they contain Anthony Edwards, then they
would win, Like yeah, like Duff obviously, like he's one
of the best players in the world. You know how
difficult is to contain that guy? Though, when you have
guys in this league that are that skills, with that
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much freedom, it's hard to contain those guys. And the
thing about Lucas, the thing about Lebron, and the thing
about Austin Reeves is none of those guys are defensive guys.
None of them. Your defensive guys are Dave Vinton, Jared
Vanderbilt and Ruey Hotchimora. But if you have those guys
on the floor, now you're losing what you bring offensively.
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I think this series is going to down to those
three guys, meaning Luca, Lebron, and Austin Reeves. They're gonna
have to show out offensively because they're not going to
be able to stop those guys. They're gonna be able
to get what they want offensively. But can their offense,
meaning the Minnesota Timberwolves match that of the Lakers firepower?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's a great question. I don't know the answer to it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I think they can, but again I don't know game
game one in obviously they had just more firepower.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But we'll see, we'll see moving forward.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Landry Fields fired yesterday as a GM of the Hawks.
I guess my question to you is is there a
fix for the Hawks with Trey Young remaining on the roster.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think. I mean, I can understand,
I understand where you're going with the question, But I
don't think Trey Young is the biggest issue. Does he
have issues, Yeah, he's smaller, he struggles defensively, but listen,
he's a guy that is impactful. He gives you twenty three,
twenty four and ten a night, you know. So, I
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don't think it's as much about Tray Young as it
is about what's surrounding for Young. And you can say
that with all guys in this league. This league is
about surrounding guys and drafting guys and acquiring guys whose
skill set match what's your star needs. And I think
that's easier said than done. Like it's easy to be
on the outside and say, man, what they need to
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do is what they should do is so on and
so forth. That's easier said than done. And right now,
the Atlanta Hawks, the way they're currently constructed, they're a
middle of the pack team. That's it. They're a mindle
of the pack team. Now what can you do now
moving forward? Also, timing, Timing is important, you know, you
think about it they had the number one overall pick
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in the draft, and what would you say about this
last year's draft. Yeah, right, Timing is everything. Things are
different if Atlanta had the first overall pick in this draft.
Now we're having a different conversation about the future of
this team and how they look moving forward.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's a it's a really really fair fair point. Some
of it does come down to luck, right, Like, you
you're lucky to getting the first pick. Bad news is
you're lucky to get in the first pick where it's
more developmental pick as opposed to a Cooper Flag who,
though young, looks like he's ready to contribute right away.
Damian Lillard back for the Bucks as they take on
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the Pacers tonight. I mean, no one talks more trash
this like it seems like the Tyrese Haliburton, what happens
in that series. I mean, hasn't played, Like part of
it is he hasn't played in a while, as those
blood clouts, So it's I think if you have expectations
he's gonna be, he's gonna be, you know, dame time
is that that's probably not gonna happen because he hasn't played.
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Hoop what do you think we can expect from Damian
Lillard after this long absence?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, I can tell you one thing you can expect.
You can expect the minutes restriction, that's for sure, because
I can't think of the time where players returned back
from injury and and had some symbolis of a minutes
restriction where you just when the guy's out five weeks,
you don't just unleash him in the playoffs like, you
know what, go play forty minutes, you know. So I'm
sure is his minutes restriction to be about twenty eight
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to twenty nine minutes are under But what Damian Lillard
brings just a threat sometimes, and this is what I
wish star players understood. Sometimes you don't have to be
at one hundred percent to make an impact because you
know what Damian Lillard gives Yannis that nobody else on
that team can. It's space space yet, so just a
mere presence of him being on that floor will give
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Yannis make Giannis's game a little more stress free. And
again I get it, you know he hasn't played in
five weeks. Can we say all the time when the
guy returns from a lengthy absence, he's either going to
be really good or really bad. There's usually no great area.
So I think how Daman Lillard plays tonight with that,
with this minutes restriction may be the difference between Milwaukee
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walking out victorious and or not.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Tell man, I can listen to talk, I can talk
hoop with you all day, but I got it. I
gotta get an update and we got to get your break.
I know you do a ton of work on serious Xam.
We appreciate you spend some time with us. Let's talk
next week. Thanks for our guest, for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I appreciate you brought up all the way.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
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in the league. He won an NBA championship with the
Spurs in ninety nine, and of course he's a color
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He's a really good friend of mine. He's synonymous mostly
with the NFL from his days of doing the pregame
show on the Fox Pregame Show, and of course he's
had his own sketch show. He's He's Frank Calliando. He
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, The The
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Oh Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm sorry it turned up? Was it supposed to be?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It wasn't the great Frank Kellyan now it was? Wasn't
there another one that you can.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
The magnificent Caliendo the magnificent because they always announced me
as something different, like people say the great in front
of it. And I don't really understand why you.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Don't understand that they don't.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Would you rather the something about?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
That's how I say that when somebody how you doing
slightly about, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The was Madden the first NFL impression you did? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I would say that was the first major impression that
people knew me for. Was that? And Kimmel brought me
on on the Fox pregame show to do Madden and
it was Madden for President. It was a presidential election year,
and he took a pair of hedge clippers to the
Madden eyebrows. And after that, John Madden the next week
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came in with the most well shaved eyebrows he'd had
in twenty five years, I guess, and we all knew
that it was that that segment had hit. And I
was always a huge fan of Madden. Always loved the
mad stuff, whether it was the video game or just
growing up and you know, watching him do games or
commercials or whatever. So but he did not he did
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not take kindly to that. He did not love that.
So was that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The first time he had an impression where it was
so big where you got like pushback or.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You yeah, I think so. Well, the legend is odd.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
For people to get upset at, well.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Football guys have it, especially at the time. Nobody was
making fun of football coaches. There wasn't really any of that.
Where were you going to find maybe in some local
radio and stuff or maybe a national radio proba, but
there was nobody doing big sketch like comedy stuff. And
the story goes with Kimmel he had a guy who
did a Madden impression, and his producer, Jimmy Bruska had
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a guy who did a Mad impression, and then we're
going to fight it out who was the guy to
be in the Madden sketch. Turns out I was both
of them, So they were fighting. What's your guy's name,
Frank Frank Frank Calamari, Yeah, yeah, Well we got the
same guy. So I ended up doing it and it
went over very well, and we did another one where
we were barbecuing at a manual or we're barbecuing at
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Jimmy Kimmel's house at the end of the year, and
I opened up the grill and Emmanuel Lewis Webster is
in the grill and I go chasing Webster with you know,
a fork or something like that, and we go around
to the Benny Hill music and he tackles John Madden,
and Madden, I guess was watching in the bus and like,
I'm accounibal, now, what is this? At least my eyebrows
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are nice. So so it was one of those things
where that was taken out pretty well. And then I
did another time another year, and then Kimmel moved on
to his talk show and they had me audition for
the the part to take over for him and other
people doing Fox NFL Sunday. The other auditions were Jeff
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Dunham and Walter the Puppet. Walter almost got it without
dun him, that's a bit, and Craig Robinson and Billy
Gardell did a point counterpoint kind of thing, and they
just thought that mine would be with the impressions of
being able to do different impressions was the thing that
could work all the time. So what we did, I
think was auditions for No That was actually one of
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my first segments. We did like a Jay Leno man
on the street kind of thing for the audition. I
did like three different impressions in it, so they saw
that it wasn't just mad, and then then I ended
up getting it so and it took off pretty I was.
I was there for nine years, ups and downs, but hard.
At the time. There was you know, the media wasn't
the same as it is now either, where you didn't
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get as many stories now along the way. We talked
about this on podcasts later too. I think we're gonna
talk about this the It's different because you've got to
be up to the moment in everything. But at the
same time there is lots of information being thrown out
constantly that people know more to talk about now. But
you could never tape, you know, on a Thursday and
(24:40):
air on a Sunday anymore, which is what we had
to do.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Could you do a live sketch now?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Is that you probably could, but they'd be worried as
a comedian that you'd say something that they didn't want.
A sketch itself would be very difficult. I went on
there Live with the Guys a few times, Terry and
just sat in the you know, they moved on the
set to the chairs part to the set, so it'd
go do that and go front with the guys, and
that was always my favorite time because I was with
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them and you could see them laughing. The tough thing
about doing a prepared sketch is that on a show,
whether it's the NFL on Fox or the NBA on TNT,
the stuff that works is usually the stuff that didn't
work when something they try something and it gets like
screwed up, and then everybody starts messing with each other.
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That's when it's really fun. The camaraderie and the chemistry
shows through, as opposed to I had to do a
two minute segment that was on tape and he couldn't
change anything, Nothing would happen. You didn't know where people
were laughing because they're not on the screen at that time.
So that was the different because it was almost it
was everything is in the moment when it's just the
guys talking to each other, and then it goes to
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my prepared, edited piece, which just had a different feel
and sometimes it was right on the money, was great,
and sometimes you go, I like that one.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Back Frank Kelly into our guests here in the Doug
Gottlieb Show. We're in Green Bay. You're from just outside
of Milwauk Walkershaw, which you don't have the accent.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
My o's my I did I guess when I first
got to.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Come back because I got the job May fifteenth and
my name switched from Doug to couch coach coach, coach
got me, it's coach coach here, coach coach?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
What what's going on?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's And then they also say, uh wait, what is it? Uh? God?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
How the how do you end every conversation? No, no, no,
end the conversation with shoot out? Think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh it sounds good.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Oh sounds good.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Sounds good.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah sounds good.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You don't hang up, you don't say goodbye, you don't
say see you later. You just say it sounds good.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, it sounds good.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
It's it's halfway to the Fargo accent is what it is.
It's not all the.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Way when I go full Fargo. It's it's and as
you get as you get.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
To like uh, Germantown and you go get north, you
go Shorewood was the Germantown. What's the other the Port Washington,
you start to hear more of the o's. Oh oh,
it's almost O w on everything as as opposed to
like the Italiana, you know, the the Europeana. Yeah, so
(27:06):
uh yeah, that's there's definitely And I had I had
it when I first went out to l A and
people were and I didn't hear it at all, and
this and I what I do for a living is
listen to people. So I guess I just wasn't as
good at listening as I thought.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The draft impressions of mel and then Todd McShay.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And now I never did a mcshae, And then.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I started I started talking about I started talk like
I never did a McShee.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
You know, that's a kind of situation. You start going
to the mall and you get ask me, do you
do the boss or the baldemar accent? I said, I
do a little bit, but it's more about just rapid
fire and throwing things out to hear the ire, hear
the iron fire and the tremendous At the end of
the day, you'd be hard pressed on me otherwise. So
that's all. You can always end stuff. But it was
(27:52):
always that, uh, the rapid fire and the Todd Todd Todd,
which was supposed to be when we first do and
started doing that sketch, it was supposed to be just
Todd Todd, it was actually mcshae. Yeah, I was gonna
say mcshae mcshae, and we didn't go with that.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I'd said that to the producer, and producer said, I
think it's at the same time, I go Todd. We're
gonna go Todd, and he had the same idea I did,
and we go Todd, and then it was supposed to
be a couple of Todd's. I turned to the top
Po Po po po, and we did it with the
actual Todd mcshae. And in the in the background of
the sketch we did which was about cups of coffee.
In the background, they're doing the w NBA Draft in
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the same studio and we had to wait while they
were while the players were being picked and stuff like.
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well how did how did Mel loved it?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I thought he was gonna dislike it just because you
see him on TV. You know, you see Mel on TV,
and it's a weird thing where he seems like this
angry guy. He takes the glasses off in public and
is a regular person. You're like, who are you? And
his wife said the same thing. She goes, I know,
because she's a beautiful lady that you do she should
have nothing to do with mel kiper Junior And You're
(28:59):
like what And his daughter is beautiful. None of it
adds up. None of it adds up. So he came
out to showing Baltimore and I said the name mel
kiper Junior and from the back I heard it's him
heckling me as himself in the show. So he's great.
I mean, after he did the sketch, he called me
and said, the entire Kuyper family sitting around watching everything
(29:20):
you did. Tremendous job. Love the Todd Todd Tod and
Shade drives me crazy. You ever been to Vegas?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You know?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
And he starts going off on all this stuff and
asking me stuff about Las Vegas because I had the
show there at the time. So yeah, he he's great
and always loved it. He always did want me to
do mcshae. I'm like, he's normal, He's not like you.
You're different. That's what makes you great.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You can maybe go special instead of different ball the
special can take on multiple nations as well. What does
that like to have a show in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Uh, It's it's difficult depending. I mean it's good and bad.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Somebody from La could be sitting next to somebody from
Louisiana and they laugh at different times. Different you know,
it's different paces of life. Some from New York could
be sitting right next to him. So New York, you
tend to hit comedy hard or punch punch punch punch.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
La is too cool for school? What's the Midwest? Because
you're at Appleton this.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Week, Appleton Friday and Saturday at Appleton Friday and Saturday
at the Appleton Skyline Comedy Club in the first clubs
Frank Caliendo ever did. Then he goes he goes to Milwaukee.
He just sold out Minneapolis Actme Comedy Company, and then
ends up in des Moines, Iowa, do a tremendous job
at the Funny Bone there and des Moines. I think
it's actually in Urbandale, well where Caliendo nineteen eighty eight
(30:32):
won the National AAU Junior Olympic fourteen to under Baseball Championships,
doing a tremendous job on the eighteen under Wisconsin Duke's
Craig Council, whatever happened to him, Craig Council trying to
figure out what's going on? That guy Caliendo doing comedy.
He'd be hard pressed at me otherwise. So Frank on
Stage dot com. The big shows that i'm the ones
that aren't sold out yet are Appleton this weekend Friday
(30:53):
and Saturday, Skyline Comedy Club, and then next Thursday at
the Des Moines Funny Bone. All those tickets you can
out about on frankonstage dot com. So you don't even
have to spell Caliando.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Frank on Stage, I was gonna get it was actually
a decent question. Is like our last question that was
supposed to see you up for that? What were you
talking about before? I have completely lost.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Talking about mal kiper June at situation. Yeah, do some
grude man, we'll do that. You guys want to do
an unboxing. Guys wanna unbox? You unbox something, You get
a present unbought, You open up the box. Inside the box,
there's another box.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
You ever you ever see inception? You ever see that
Doug Leonardo DiCaprio, Man, I love that guy. He was
in Titanic. You ever see Titanic.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm the king of the world.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Man, you gotta.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Describe dinner with Gruden in Rome?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
So I I took. I'd never been to Italy before.
I'm Italian, half Tali, and my wife's fully Italian. My
kids are three quarters ti in which she lets me
know every day. Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And then you're not full of Italian?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Oh yeah, and her her family's like the Sopranos, but
a cartoon version of Okay that much?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Man, what'll go to dough?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
You gotta be fine? So I take a picture in
front of the coliseum, put it on Instagram. I got
a text from Jeff Leonardo, who's Gruden's right hand man.
He's like, do you know Gruden's in Rome right now?
Like what I have? Grudar What it's like Star Wars?
There is another you know? So uh, we end up
going to have dinner because I text John. We end
up hanging out for a couple hours. And there's nothing
(32:23):
funnier than John grew and going you're gonna eat that, man,
gonna pass that spaghetti. You're gonna have little spaghetti too?
Why brisketta? Do you ever have brasketta? Man? You ever
had that?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Some people say shoo, hi, that's that's good.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Wait does he in the act now? Does he like that?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Does he ever turn it off? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I don't think he can. I don't think he can.
I mean, I think Gruden just is. He's a more subdued.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I thought you were told. I thought you were told,
never go never go full grow.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
That's going on, that's going to my act. You just
wrote a bit it's full Grooden.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Hey, they said, never go full groot and I did. Man,
look at where Look where I am a spider? Two?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Why Banana Man Appleton this weekend in Sunday in Milwaukee,
and then to Minneapolis next week at the Acme Comedy Club,
and then to Des Moines, Des.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Moines, And there's a whole bunch of other dates leading
all the way to All roads lead to Luton, Lawton,
okhol Patche Casino and Lawton, Oklahoma. Man, it's gonna be tremendous.
He's the fabulous, fabulous, fabulous Frank Calliando Frank Kellyan.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Do they gonna do twice like they do with boxing matches?
Kellyan New call New
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Welcome in, Frank Caliendo, my dear friend and I Award
winning comedian from that You might remember him from tonight show.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hey, now he'll join us.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He'll join us and make shameless plugs for all of
his upcoming Appleton, Milwaukee, Des Moines and Lawton, Oklahoma shows.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
We got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
John Middlekoff will be our guest a little bit later
on this hour as well. Of course, he's getting ready
for the NFL Draft. You can hear his podcast on
the Volume podcast Network. Let's let's talk to NBA really quickly,
because I do feel like of the islands that I
remain on, the Kawhi Leonard island has been a very
(01:43):
very lonely one because there have been times in which
you're trying to go like, yeah, when he's really healthy,
Kawhi Leonard is you know, you go back to last year,
you know, or two years ago. There are times in
which he's playing like Kawhi Leonard might be the best
player in the NBA. You know, he can score it
all three levels. He's an unbelievable defender, he can rebound.
There's things that he does that none of the other
(02:03):
stars in the NBA does. But because he has not
been healthy in a postseason since he won NBA Championship
with the Toronto Raptors, he gets lost in this conversation.
And if you guys, remember when was it Stephen A.
Smith who called him the worst superstar ever and said
I believe last year he should retire. I said, that's blasphemy.
(02:28):
It ain't his fault. He's been hurt. So what happened since? Well,
last night, if you, in case you missed it, in
the NBA, Kawhi Leonard comes up clutch right. His clutch
gene was on full display as the Clippers go into
Denver and pull off an upset Kawhi Leonard not only
(02:50):
had thirty nine points and five assists and three rebounds,
but he had thirty nine points on nineteen shots, nineteen shots,
fifteen of nineteen from the floor, four of seven from three,
made all five of his free throws in thirty nine
minutes of action. It was an absolute virtuoso last night.
If you're the guy and I've been that guy that says, hey,
(03:11):
Kawhi Leonard might be the best player in the NBA,
you look like a smart guy again, Does it mean
he is? Because Jokic, who had a triple double, has
been great more consistently and has been hurt less often
and is a magnificent player in his own right. The
point is that because of injury, we started to question
(03:33):
the future or even the present day and the historic
greatness of Kawhi Leonard, and last night he reminded all
of us how good he actually is when he's healthy.
Here's ty Lewis, head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
This is what kawhile is for, you know, trying to
get to this point where he's healthy for the playoffs.
And we know if we got a healthy Kowhi, we
can win any series. And that just shows you tonight,
you know what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Here's Jame.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
One gives up on him, he comes back, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And so.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean he's a hard worker. He's dedicated, like I said,
to keeping his body right. And sometimes you just, you know,
some unfortunate things happen. You know, you can't control that.
But it's not from a lack of work, it's not
from a lack of wanting to be here, and just
sometimes some bad luck kids. But he's going to keep
coming back and he's going to get to this point
like he is right now, and that's why I'm just
so happy for him.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
James Harden had this exchange with a reporter about Kawhi.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
His career at the stopping start nature, all the things
he's gone through, do you think and he keeps coming back,
do you think he gets the appreciation from people for
what he's en dirt and coming back from.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Nah, not even a little bit.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
It's always negative. It's always you know, what he's been
through and what he's not able to do just because
of something that he can't control. But we don't appreciate
how great he is when he's actually out there and
putting on performances like this tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Let's let's reset this and be honest about it. The
Clippers brass today should be high fiving themselves and should
be doing cartwheels, right they should. You know, Trent Reddens
their GM and last year Trent and their president Lauren Frank,
(05:09):
they all made a really really hard decision. They said,
we're not going to re up Paul George at a
max rate and we are with Kawhi Leonard. And people
thought they were crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They did.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Kawi has heard all the time Paul George playoff beat.
Maybe he's not the star, but like, how can you
how can you let Paul George go to the Sixers?
Why would you do such things? Why would you undervalue
Paul George? Which of the two players looks over the hill.
Now that's Paul George and which of them went healthy.
And there was a time at the start of the
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year when people thought everyone thought Kawhi might not play
at all this year. But in risky moves, and granted
it's not as risky as Nico Harrison trading away Luka
Doncik for Anthony Davis, who was hurt at the time
and hurt throughout the season, But still those are risky
moves where you're betting on all of your analysis and
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what you think is going to happen in the future,
and it is not.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It is not an exact science.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I think today the the the Kawhi Leonard haters look
so uneducated, so foolish, so prone to hyperbole because they're
prisoners of the moment. They can't even realize how wrong
they were. And Trent Redden and the Clippers brass looks
(06:30):
like they did a great job of evaluating between Paul
George and Kawhi Leonard.
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Antonio Daniels, of course, played thirteen years in the NBA.
Is a member of the Spurs championship team in ninety nine.
He's currently the color analyst for the New Orleans Pelicans,
and he's kind enough to join us and give us
his thoughts on the play, which I thought last night
was an amazing night in basketball. Right, you have Detroit
going into New York cade Cunningham helping them get a win,
(08:09):
and then the nightcap Clippers came close in game one
Game two, Kawhi Leonard was the best player on the floor,
despite the fact he's playing against a guy widely regarded
as the best player in the world. Tony is a
guy who played in this League's covered this league, and
of course you being a former Spur, what are your
thoughts on Kawhi and when he's been able to put
together here?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, you know, this is one of those situations where
where low management actually has worked thus far. And again
it's only a small is the two games several side,
But if you look at the minutes that Kawhi Leonard
played this year, he's played eleven eighty minutes this year.
Nikola Jokis just played over twenty five hundred minutes, So
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you're looking at it different of two times as many
minutes played by Nikola Jokis at the post to Kawhi Leonard.
And in the first two games, again we only talking
about a two simple size, but in these two games,
Kawhi Leonard looks a lot fresher. The Ko looks tired,
not just physically but also mentally because this team needs
him to do a lot. And what kind of bothered
(09:14):
me about yesterday's game, and we talked about this on
our Seriah S XM show, is they allow Kawhi Leonard
to dictate the terms of engagement. You know, every time
the Kola Jokic touched the basketball, he was double team.
Every time he touched the ball, they ran two guys
at him, they ran three guys at him. Can you
remember a time yesterday, Doug where the ball was taken
(09:36):
out of Kawhi Leonard's hand deliberately and they were saying
to themselves, We're not going to allow Kawhi Leonard to
beat us, even though he has it going on this
particular night.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No me neither.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's why he was the best player on the floor yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Agree with you, okay, So what do you think of
this series? Again, there's two games then you playing a
bunch of these adjustments are made. What's it like the
Copper the Clippers are able to win this series?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think the likelihoods. I picked Denver. I picked Denver
in six h The thing is, I feel like Toron
lou is one of the best coaches in the league
as far as in game and postgame assessment to concern.
He does a fantastic job of doing just that, like
(10:32):
knowing what needs to be taken away, taking something away.
And right now, it really doesn't look like the different
Nuggets have enough. It doesn't. You can make an argument
that they should have lost Game one if the Clippers
were more were more focused. But now it's one to ones.
Going back to la and if Nicola Yokis doesn't go nuclear, right,
(10:52):
if he doesn't give you a thirty point triple double,
a forty point triple double, whatever it may be, I
can't see Denver pulling this series result because I don't
think they have enough firepower.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, it's interesting, I mean, what do they really have,
especially off the bench outside of Russ, And Russ is
so enigmatic even when he's good, I don't know if
he has enough help off that bench. I think you
bring up a lot of really, really, really good points.
The Warriors go in and win Game one against the Rockets.
This Rockets crew individually, you have some guys that have
(11:26):
had a lot of success in the playoffs, but collectively
not a ton. How much of that is matchups? How
much of that is Hey, it's their first playoff game
and they'll adjust.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I feel like it's all matchups I do. And no
disrespect to the Houston Rockets. There are certain teams right
now that are playing that I feel like it's a
awful matchup for them, the Knicks and Detroit. If I'm
the Knicks, I don't want to play Detroit first round.
If I'm the Lakers, I don't want to play Minnesota
first round. Right if I'm the Rockets, I don't want
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to play Golden State first round, regardless of seat. Because
it's about matchups. They say, styles make fights. Sometimes you
can play against the team that everything that you're not
good at they are good at. Right, everything that you
don't have with your team, they do have. And when
you look at Golden State and Houston, Houston has excellent
(12:17):
point of attack defenders, right, Aman Thompson and Tory Easton
and Dylan Brooks. These guys are excellent point of attack defenders.
You know what Golden State doesn't have. They don't have
point of attack offensive players. They don't have guys that
are trying to beat you off the dribble and break
you down. Right. Their offense is geared and based on
movement and screening and slits and read and reactions, and
(12:40):
so what Houston does well kind of offsets what Golden
State does well. So I think this is a really, really,
really tough matchup for the Houston Rockets. And I think
for CERA six, Tim, I believe I picked Golden State
in five, I pick them six. I pick Golden State
and six.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Did you like Minnesota as well?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I know I like the Lakers, But I feel like
this is the toughest matchup in the Western Conference that
the Lakers could have had first round. Like anybody else,
Oklahoma City, Memphis, the Clippers, Denver. I feel like this
is the toughest matchup that the Lakers could have had
first round because of Fne Edwards. One, because of Fne Edwards.
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He's a guy that's excellent offensively and he can point
out where he wants. He has certain guys that he
wants to target. He can target Luca, he can target
Arson Reeves, he can target Lebron's names. And the other
thing that Memphis has is they have size and physicality.
You know what the Lakers don't have. They don't have
size and they don't have physicality. Minnesota has the ability
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and the versatility to play small ball, but the Lakers
don't have the versatility to play big ball. As big
as they can get at Jackson Hayes and is he
big and strong enough to contain Rudy Gobert, nas Reeds
and Juliet's rend.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Again, I look at this and Everybody's going to point
to the threes that Minnesota made in Game one. I
just think it's because the Lakers couldn't guard him, so
you got to help with somebody, you help, and they
hit open threes, right and again, when you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Have a guy that SA's good offensively at Anthony Edwards.
We had a caller call in the show today and say, well,
you know what, if they contain Anthony Edwards, then they
would win, Like yeah, like Duff obviously, like he's one
of the best players in the world. You know how
difficult is to contain that guy? Though, when you have
guys in this league that are that skills, with that
(14:38):
much freedom, it's hard to contain those guys. And the
thing about Lucas, the thing about Lebron, and the thing
about Austin Reeves is none of those guys are defensive guys.
None of them. Your defensive guys are Dave Vinton, Jared
Vanderbilt and Ruey Hotchimora. But if you have those guys
on the floor, now you're losing what you bring offensively.
(14:58):
I think this series is going to down to those
three guys, meaning Luca, Lebron, and Austin Reeves. They're gonna
have to show out offensively because they're not going to
be able to stop those guys. They're gonna be able
to get what they want offensively. But can their offense,
meaning the Minnesota Timberwolves match that of the Lakers firepower?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's a great question. I don't know the answer to it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I think they can, but again I don't know game
game one in obviously they had just more firepower.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But we'll see, we'll see moving forward.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Landry Fields fired yesterday as a GM of the Hawks.
I guess my question to you is is there a
fix for the Hawks with Trey Young remaining on the roster.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think. I mean, I can understand,
I understand where you're going with the question, But I
don't think Trey Young is the biggest issue. Does he
have issues, Yeah, he's smaller, he struggles defensively, but listen,
he's a guy that is impactful. He gives you twenty three,
twenty four and ten a night, you know. So, I
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don't think it's as much about Tray Young as it
is about what's surrounding for Young. And you can say
that with all guys in this league. This league is
about surrounding guys and drafting guys and acquiring guys whose
skill set match what's your star needs. And I think
that's easier said than done. Like it's easy to be
on the outside and say, man, what they need to
(16:25):
do is what they should do is so on and
so forth. That's easier said than done. And right now,
the Atlanta Hawks, the way they're currently constructed, they're a
middle of the pack team. That's it. They're a mindle
of the pack team. Now what can you do now
moving forward? Also, timing, Timing is important, you know, you
think about it they had the number one overall pick
(16:46):
in the draft, and what would you say about this
last year's draft. Yeah, right, Timing is everything. Things are
different if Atlanta had the first overall pick in this draft.
Now we're having a different conversation about the future of
this team and how they look moving forward.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's a it's a really really fair fair point. Some
of it does come down to luck, right, Like, you
you're lucky to getting the first pick. Bad news is
you're lucky to get in the first pick where it's
more developmental pick as opposed to a Cooper Flag who,
though young, looks like he's ready to contribute right away.
Damian Lillard back for the Bucks as they take on
(17:23):
the Pacers tonight. I mean, no one talks more trash
this like it seems like the Tyrese Haliburton, what happens
in that series. I mean, hasn't played, Like part of
it is he hasn't played in a while, as those
blood clouts, So it's I think if you have expectations
he's gonna be, he's gonna be, you know, dame time
is that that's probably not gonna happen because he hasn't played.
(17:46):
Hoop what do you think we can expect from Damian
Lillard after this long absence?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, I can tell you one thing you can expect.
You can expect the minutes restriction, that's for sure, because
I can't think of the time where players returned back
from injury and and had some symbolis of a minutes
restriction where you just when the guy's out five weeks,
you don't just unleash him in the playoffs like, you
know what, go play forty minutes, you know. So I'm
sure is his minutes restriction to be about twenty eight
(18:13):
to twenty nine minutes are under But what Damian Lillard
brings just a threat sometimes, and this is what I
wish star players understood. Sometimes you don't have to be
at one hundred percent to make an impact because you
know what Damian Lillard gives Yannis that nobody else on
that team can. It's space space yet, so just a
mere presence of him being on that floor will give
(18:36):
Yannis make Giannis's game a little more stress free. And
again I get it, you know he hasn't played in
five weeks. Can we say all the time when the
guy returns from a lengthy absence, he's either going to
be really good or really bad. There's usually no great area.
So I think how Daman Lillard plays tonight with that,
with this minutes restriction may be the difference between Milwaukee
(18:58):
walking out victorious and or not.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Tell man, I can listen to talk, I can talk
hoop with you all day, but I got it. I
gotta get an update and we got to get your break.
I know you do a ton of work on serious Xam.
We appreciate you spend some time with us. Let's talk
next week. Thanks for our guest, for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I appreciate you brought up all the way.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
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in the league. He won an NBA championship with the
Spurs in ninety nine, and of course he's a color
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He's a really good friend of mine. He's synonymous mostly
with the NFL from his days of doing the pregame
show on the Fox Pregame Show, and of course he's
had his own sketch show. He's He's Frank Calliando. He
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, The The
(20:41):
Oh Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm sorry it turned up? Was it supposed to be?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It wasn't the great Frank Kellyan now it was? Wasn't
there another one that you can.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
The magnificent Caliendo the magnificent because they always announced me
as something different, like people say the great in front
of it. And I don't really understand why you.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Don't understand that they don't.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Would you rather the something about?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
That's how I say that when somebody how you doing
slightly about, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The was Madden the first NFL impression you did? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I would say that was the first major impression that
people knew me for. Was that? And Kimmel brought me
on on the Fox pregame show to do Madden and
it was Madden for President. It was a presidential election year,
and he took a pair of hedge clippers to the
Madden eyebrows. And after that, John Madden the next week
(21:31):
came in with the most well shaved eyebrows he'd had
in twenty five years, I guess, and we all knew
that it was that that segment had hit. And I
was always a huge fan of Madden. Always loved the
mad stuff, whether it was the video game or just
growing up and you know, watching him do games or
commercials or whatever. So but he did not he did
(21:53):
not take kindly to that. He did not love that.
So was that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The first time he had an impression where it was
so big where you got like pushback or.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You yeah, I think so. Well, the legend is odd.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
For people to get upset at, well.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Football guys have it, especially at the time. Nobody was
making fun of football coaches. There wasn't really any of that.
Where were you going to find maybe in some local
radio and stuff or maybe a national radio proba, but
there was nobody doing big sketch like comedy stuff. And
the story goes with Kimmel he had a guy who
did a Madden impression, and his producer, Jimmy Bruska had
(22:32):
a guy who did a Mad impression, and then we're
going to fight it out who was the guy to
be in the Madden sketch. Turns out I was both
of them, So they were fighting. What's your guy's name,
Frank Frank Frank Calamari, Yeah, yeah, Well we got the
same guy. So I ended up doing it and it
went over very well, and we did another one where
we were barbecuing at a manual or we're barbecuing at
(22:55):
Jimmy Kimmel's house at the end of the year, and
I opened up the grill and Emmanuel Lewis Webster is
in the grill and I go chasing Webster with you know,
a fork or something like that, and we go around
to the Benny Hill music and he tackles John Madden,
and Madden, I guess was watching in the bus and like,
I'm accounibal, now, what is this? At least my eyebrows
(23:16):
are nice. So so it was one of those things
where that was taken out pretty well. And then I
did another time another year, and then Kimmel moved on
to his talk show and they had me audition for
the the part to take over for him and other
people doing Fox NFL Sunday. The other auditions were Jeff
(23:37):
Dunham and Walter the Puppet. Walter almost got it without
dun him, that's a bit, and Craig Robinson and Billy
Gardell did a point counterpoint kind of thing, and they
just thought that mine would be with the impressions of
being able to do different impressions was the thing that
could work all the time. So what we did, I
think was auditions for No That was actually one of
(23:59):
my first segments. We did like a Jay Leno man
on the street kind of thing for the audition. I
did like three different impressions in it, so they saw
that it wasn't just mad, and then then I ended
up getting it so and it took off pretty I was.
I was there for nine years, ups and downs, but hard.
At the time. There was you know, the media wasn't
the same as it is now either, where you didn't
(24:20):
get as many stories now along the way. We talked
about this on podcasts later too. I think we're gonna
talk about this the It's different because you've got to
be up to the moment in everything. But at the
same time there is lots of information being thrown out
constantly that people know more to talk about now. But
you could never tape, you know, on a Thursday and
(24:40):
air on a Sunday anymore, which is what we had
to do.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Could you do a live sketch now?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Is that you probably could, but they'd be worried as
a comedian that you'd say something that they didn't want.
A sketch itself would be very difficult. I went on
there Live with the Guys a few times, Terry and
just sat in the you know, they moved on the
set to the chairs part to the set, so it'd
go do that and go front with the guys, and
that was always my favorite time because I was with
(25:04):
them and you could see them laughing. The tough thing
about doing a prepared sketch is that on a show,
whether it's the NFL on Fox or the NBA on TNT,
the stuff that works is usually the stuff that didn't
work when something they try something and it gets like
screwed up, and then everybody starts messing with each other.
(25:26):
That's when it's really fun. The camaraderie and the chemistry
shows through, as opposed to I had to do a
two minute segment that was on tape and he couldn't
change anything, Nothing would happen. You didn't know where people
were laughing because they're not on the screen at that time.
So that was the different because it was almost it
was everything is in the moment when it's just the
guys talking to each other, and then it goes to
(25:47):
my prepared, edited piece, which just had a different feel
and sometimes it was right on the money, was great,
and sometimes you go, I like that one.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Back Frank Kelly into our guests here in the Doug
Gottlieb Show. We're in Green Bay. You're from just outside
of Milwauk Walkershaw, which you don't have the accent.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
My o's my I did I guess when I first
got to.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Come back because I got the job May fifteenth and
my name switched from Doug to couch coach coach, coach
got me, it's coach coach here, coach coach?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
What what's going on?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's And then they also say, uh wait, what is it? Uh? God?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
How the how do you end every conversation? No, no, no,
end the conversation with shoot out? Think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh it sounds good.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Oh sounds good.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Sounds good.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah sounds good.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You don't hang up, you don't say goodbye, you don't
say see you later. You just say it sounds good.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, it sounds good.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
It's it's halfway to the Fargo accent is what it is.
It's not all the.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Way when I go full Fargo. It's it's and as
you get as you get.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
To like uh, Germantown and you go get north, you
go Shorewood was the Germantown. What's the other the Port Washington,
you start to hear more of the o's. Oh oh,
it's almost O w on everything as as opposed to
like the Italiana, you know, the the Europeana. Yeah, so
(27:06):
uh yeah, that's there's definitely And I had I had
it when I first went out to l A and
people were and I didn't hear it at all, and
this and I what I do for a living is
listen to people. So I guess I just wasn't as
good at listening as I thought.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The draft impressions of mel and then Todd McShay.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And now I never did a mcshae, And then.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I started I started talking about I started talk like
I never did a McShee.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
You know, that's a kind of situation. You start going
to the mall and you get ask me, do you
do the boss or the baldemar accent? I said, I
do a little bit, but it's more about just rapid
fire and throwing things out to hear the ire, hear
the iron fire and the tremendous At the end of
the day, you'd be hard pressed on me otherwise. So
that's all. You can always end stuff. But it was
(27:52):
always that, uh, the rapid fire and the Todd Todd Todd,
which was supposed to be when we first do and
started doing that sketch, it was supposed to be just
Todd Todd, it was actually mcshae. Yeah, I was gonna
say mcshae mcshae, and we didn't go with that.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I'd said that to the producer, and producer said, I
think it's at the same time, I go Todd. We're
gonna go Todd, and he had the same idea I did,
and we go Todd, and then it was supposed to
be a couple of Todd's. I turned to the top
Po Po po po, and we did it with the
actual Todd mcshae. And in the in the background of
the sketch we did which was about cups of coffee.
In the background, they're doing the w NBA Draft in
(28:29):
the same studio and we had to wait while they
were while the players were being picked and stuff like.
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well how did how did Mel loved it?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I thought he was gonna dislike it just because you
see him on TV. You know, you see Mel on TV,
and it's a weird thing where he seems like this
angry guy. He takes the glasses off in public and
is a regular person. You're like, who are you? And
his wife said the same thing. She goes, I know,
because she's a beautiful lady that you do she should
have nothing to do with mel kiper Junior And You're
(28:59):
like what And his daughter is beautiful. None of it
adds up. None of it adds up. So he came
out to showing Baltimore and I said the name mel
kiper Junior and from the back I heard it's him
heckling me as himself in the show. So he's great.
I mean, after he did the sketch, he called me
and said, the entire Kuyper family sitting around watching everything
(29:20):
you did. Tremendous job. Love the Todd Todd Tod and
Shade drives me crazy. You ever been to Vegas?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You know?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
And he starts going off on all this stuff and
asking me stuff about Las Vegas because I had the
show there at the time. So yeah, he he's great
and always loved it. He always did want me to
do mcshae. I'm like, he's normal, He's not like you.
You're different. That's what makes you great.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You can maybe go special instead of different ball the
special can take on multiple nations as well. What does
that like to have a show in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Uh, It's it's difficult depending. I mean it's good and bad.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Somebody from La could be sitting next to somebody from
Louisiana and they laugh at different times. Different you know,
it's different paces of life. Some from New York could
be sitting right next to him. So New York, you
tend to hit comedy hard or punch punch punch punch.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
La is too cool for school? What's the Midwest? Because
you're at Appleton this.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Week, Appleton Friday and Saturday at Appleton Friday and Saturday
at the Appleton Skyline Comedy Club in the first clubs
Frank Caliendo ever did. Then he goes he goes to Milwaukee.
He just sold out Minneapolis Actme Comedy Company, and then
ends up in des Moines, Iowa, do a tremendous job
at the Funny Bone there and des Moines. I think
it's actually in Urbandale, well where Caliendo nineteen eighty eight
(30:32):
won the National AAU Junior Olympic fourteen to under Baseball Championships,
doing a tremendous job on the eighteen under Wisconsin Duke's
Craig Council, whatever happened to him, Craig Council trying to
figure out what's going on? That guy Caliendo doing comedy.
He'd be hard pressed at me otherwise. So Frank on
Stage dot com. The big shows that i'm the ones
that aren't sold out yet are Appleton this weekend Friday
(30:53):
and Saturday, Skyline Comedy Club, and then next Thursday at
the Des Moines Funny Bone. All those tickets you can
out about on frankonstage dot com. So you don't even
have to spell Caliando.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Frank on Stage, I was gonna get it was actually
a decent question. Is like our last question that was
supposed to see you up for that? What were you
talking about before? I have completely lost.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Talking about mal kiper June at situation. Yeah, do some
grude man, we'll do that. You guys want to do
an unboxing. Guys wanna unbox? You unbox something, You get
a present unbought, You open up the box. Inside the box,
there's another box.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
You ever you ever see inception? You ever see that
Doug Leonardo DiCaprio, Man, I love that guy. He was
in Titanic. You ever see Titanic.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm the king of the world.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Man, you gotta.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Describe dinner with Gruden in Rome?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
So I I took. I'd never been to Italy before.
I'm Italian, half Tali, and my wife's fully Italian. My
kids are three quarters ti in which she lets me
know every day. Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And then you're not full of Italian?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Oh yeah, and her her family's like the Sopranos, but
a cartoon version of Okay that much?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Man, what'll go to dough?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
You gotta be fine? So I take a picture in
front of the coliseum, put it on Instagram. I got
a text from Jeff Leonardo, who's Gruden's right hand man.
He's like, do you know Gruden's in Rome right now?
Like what I have? Grudar What it's like Star Wars?
There is another you know? So uh, we end up
going to have dinner because I text John. We end
up hanging out for a couple hours. And there's nothing
(32:23):
funnier than John grew and going you're gonna eat that, man,
gonna pass that spaghetti. You're gonna have little spaghetti too?
Why brisketta? Do you ever have brasketta? Man? You ever
had that?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Some people say shoo, hi, that's that's good.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Wait does he in the act now? Does he like that?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Does he ever turn it off? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I don't think he can. I don't think he can.
I mean, I think Gruden just is. He's a more subdued.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I thought you were told. I thought you were told,
never go never go full grow.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
That's going on, that's going to my act. You just
wrote a bit it's full Grooden.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Hey, they said, never go full groot and I did. Man,
look at where Look where I am a spider? Two?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Why Banana Man Appleton this weekend in Sunday in Milwaukee,
and then to Minneapolis next week at the Acme Comedy Club,
and then to Des Moines, Des.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Moines, And there's a whole bunch of other dates leading
all the way to All roads lead to Luton, Lawton,
okhol Patche Casino and Lawton, Oklahoma. Man, it's gonna be tremendous.
He's the fabulous, fabulous, fabulous Frank Calliando Frank Kellyan.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Do they gonna do twice like they do with boxing matches?
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