June 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason and Mike spend hour 2 reacting to the Thunder taking Game 4 of the NBA Finals to tie the series at 2-2! Who do they see taking Game 5? They also react to the candidates the Knicks are set to interview for their head coaching vacancy... Does Jason have a personal favorite?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside hour two The Jason Smith Show with
my bes friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm anna ask man true Indiana.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Lead's Oklahoma City right now? Ninety five ninety one, still
six minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
To go in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And look, we spent a lot of time last hour
talking about the Pacers and what they're doing, and you know,
look it it's really been something to watch. But I
gotta say this for Oklahoma City. Right when we started
the show, I didn't like the way the game was
going for the Thunder because they just didn't seem like
they were they were all on the same page. They
felt like they were struggling and the Pacers were just
(01:06):
waiting to really kick it up a notch. And I said,
the way they're staying in this game. The only way
the Thunder in this game is if suddenly Sga just
I'm putting the team on my back and this is
how we're gonna win, and I'm gonna score forty points
and they're somehow in it. It's a four point game.
Despite the fact that Sga is having a horrendous game,
(01:28):
a horrendous game, he has been a ball stopper for
the most for most of the second half. All this
isole ball that he's playing. He's nine out of twenty
one from the floor. He's got twenty points on twenty
one shots, right, Like, that's that's not gonna do it, man,
that that doesn't get it done. He's not getting anybody involved.
He's got zero assists on the game. He's been to
(01:49):
the free throw line twice. Like he is just he is.
He is ball stopping for the Thunder, and the Pacers
are basically saying, hey, okay, great, thanks but and I thought, okay,
I tell you this, how are the Thunder staying in
this because Alex Caruso is Benedict Mathern off the bench
with twenty and Jalen Williams has twenty five, including a
perfect eleven for eleven from the free throw line. This
(02:13):
game makes no sense now I thought it just a
fifteen minutes go buy Mike Carbon in the game makes
no sense.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Get good balance with Williams and Caruso and home girns
at fourteen and twelve. Still not moving the ball very well.
Like we talked about earlier in the show, when you
look at the assists against the field goals made you know,
going back to your ball stopping eight assists on thirty
two makes there's got to be some stat to go
(02:41):
through that. I don't know who the Sarah Langs of
the NBA stats people are, but that just seems kind
of odd to me. They're just two of sixteen from
three point range are the Thunder. Yet we're still talking
about a game in the balance, So what's curious. Also
for Indiana tonight, Aliburton shot his first free throws of
(03:02):
the series, so he finally got that into the scoring column.
But giving you a little bit of balance as he
does on what he's up to fourteen points, seven assists,
so giving you that and you've got five guys in
double figures for the Pacers. But yeah, Thunder had been
able to hang around. It ain't clean. It ain't pretty.
(03:22):
The referees making a nuisance of themselves with some of
their calls, and certainly the historyonics they're given. Frank Dreben
a little bit of a run with some of the
theatrics on falls at the baseline.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Now, now that was a great point you maybe, but
I want to ask you a very important question. Do
you think we get the Enrico Palazzo in the Liam
Neeson remake that's coming out soon?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
We got to add something similar, don't we. Okay, And
I've seen that commercial a couple of times tonight, A
nice reminder that that's there for you because the other
day we did talk about all of those people on
the panel. Well we got to Dick Enberg and Jim Palmer,
Joyce brother Kirsty Batimer and did them all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Uh so we'll keep you updated here again. Just over
just under five minutes left to go. It's a one
point game, Indiana leading Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
SGA is playing terribly and it's it's a one point game.
They're beating the hell out of him too. I mean
that can't be understated. Like you know who he's He's
looked at the officials. If you had enough to added
up the stare time stared down time. See I gave
away the joke stared down time from SGA. It might
be longer than the guy rolling down the stairs and
(04:32):
Friday the Thirteenth, Part two.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Meanwhile, last night we proved that basically I could be
the GM of the Knicks, and you can pay me
a lot less money than you're paying Leon Rose and
everybody else to run things right, because I told you, Hey,
if you if I could have called James Dole and said, hey,
fifty give me pay me fifty grand, and and I'll
say an hour, even though I only need three minutes,
(04:56):
I'll tell you who to go talk to to be
the nixt head coach.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, Who did I say? Mike Right? First guy?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I said when when they fired Tibbs. As Mike Brown's
the guy, the offensive system, the defensive system. He's coached
big markets, he's coach big superstars. He's he's basically done
everything that Jason Kidd has done. Right, He's done everything
Jason Kidd has done. Mike Brown is your guy, right,
Mike Brown is the guy. And we found out last night, Hey,
potentially the Knicks should be talking to Mike Brown Okay, great,
(05:22):
then you said, hey, remember on that first night, Oh,
I said, Mike Brown, you said, Taylor Jenkins, right, Hey,
Taylor Jenkins, you gotta go get him, right, He's got
to be the guy. You gotta go talk to him, right, Okay, okay,
uh shams. Trania puts this out a little bit less
than an hour ago. Next week, the New York Knicks
are planning to meet with Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown
for their head coaching job together. These are yes, listen,
(05:46):
we don't want to talk to you guys separately. Maybe
you guys can tag team this and like coach.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You got offense, go and and now switch Now we
switch rolls right like it's an improv game.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We're gonna do yes. End Okay, yes end.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I want to trade Karl Anthony Towns Okay, Taylor j Yes,
And I want to trade Oganno Noby Okay, back to you,
Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yes, and who's Ogano Noby? Oh you stopped it there?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
More could come, but these are the first formal interviews
for the Knicks vacancy. So now we know we could
be running the Knicks. And they listen to the show
because after last night, hey today. Hey, look we're talking
to Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Likes a lot of good for society. We program a
lot of shows and writers. The aggregators love us. I mean,
we might be the source of all of those AI
powered Yahoo Sports articles. Oh yes, we're running the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Come on, running the Knicks from three thousand miles away
working on it, not nearly as much because really they
fire TIBs. Okay, who do you want? All in the
No Mike Brown, Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins, Right? I like
Sam Cassell, who doesn't than he's gonna get any interviews
because he's always up and coming, but he's never on
anybody's list.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So I'm like, Okay, that's fine, But like.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
These are these are the guys, right, these are the
guys you should have been talking to first, or way
to reach out to, because this ridiculous. Let's go out
and ask permission and the guys you should ask if
you're being told though, why not ask Spolster?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Why not ask the.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Warriors for Steve Kerr, What's what are they gonna tell
you anything worse?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You've been told so far? When you reached out to
the Hawks and he told you know, and the bulls
told you no.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Come on, man, it's embarrassing the.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I mean, like they went from a destination to now
you really don't know what how you do it?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Now everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh, I see, you don't know what you're doing, Like
Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins should clearly have been at
the top of the list, Like if you talk to
Brown and Jenkins and Mike Malone, even though hiring Malone
is kind of like getting TIBs again, so that's kind
of weird. And the fact that he was just fired
by a team and that because he lost the team. Okay, yeah,
not my uh, not my first choice to jump in
(07:49):
and I want to I want to get in there.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, same guy, just a little louder at the microphone.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, you need something a little bit. You need to
make sure you change, you change the energy and right.
And this is why teams always go from a disciplinarian
to a player's coach, and then you get back to
a disciplinarian because eventually each of their messages wear thin, right,
And it wore thin with TIBs, and Tibbs had to
like there's there's no doubt in my mind, the Knicks
had to let TIBs go, right, the players didn't want
(08:15):
to play for him anymore. Clearly they had had gone
as far as they were going to under him. He
was out coaching the playoffs. No, the Knicks had to
do this, but what they should have done, and we said, look,
it's okay if you take some time, it is okay.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's a big thing that just happened. We don't need
to hear.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Just because people are talking about it doesn't mean we
need to hear that you're going forward. Let's let let's
let things settle for a little bit, figure out the
direction you want to go, because I know you had
to let him go when you did because you wanted
to move on. Right, we know we're not we're not
bringing them back. We're gonna we're gonna rip the band
aid off now and that's how we're gonna go forward.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And there's no timeline. We don't need to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You really want your your coach in by the draft,
which you still have a few days for that, or
at the very least by free agency.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Right, that's you have time.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
But instead the Knicks panic with this stupid ass like
I really think I honestly think the Knicks, Leon Rose.
They thought we're the Knicks, We're great. And the first
couple of teams we reach out to, we're gonna poach
a coach from somebody. We're gonna poach a coach, right, well,
I like that to you. Put that on a T shirt,
poach you coach, like we are gonna do it when
somebody's gonna say yes, because we're the bleep and Nicks
(09:22):
and we're back. And suddenly, oh boy, this really didn't
turn out the way we thought. We thought coaches would
be dying to get to the Knicks. They would they
would stand up and say, no, free me up so
I can interview with this job. And nobody is. The
coaches aren't saying anything, the teams aren't letting him do it,
and this is the Knicks, right, Just sit back, don't panic,
right or talk to Mike Brown, talk to Taylor Jenkins,
(09:45):
talk to Mike Malone, right, no reason, and bring guys
back for a second.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
These are the guys you should be talking to, right,
It's absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And then hey, throw stuff out there, back channel the
hell out of it where it's hey, you know, we
really Hey, Jason Kidd we really would, you know, if
you wanted to come here, we'd really like you, man,
we really like you to come. And then Jason Kidd
tells the Mavericks, Hey, I want to go coach the Knicks,
And what happens They have to give him permission because
they have to fire him anyway, because you don't come
back and coach a team when you say you want
to leave and go coach someone else.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Completely mismanages from the beginning because you know Knicks, but like,
this was the way they should have done it, and
these are the guys should have been talking to in
the very first place.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, if you love someone, you let him go. If
they return their yours. If they don't, they never were there.
You go. It sounds better in Spanish, but well we'll
leave that for another time because you need some cool
guitar underneath. But it's the look. The firing of TIV
was the same as the Nuggets when they fired Michael Malone.
(10:44):
So they're tied forever at the hip of Yeah, we
know we're getting getting rid of you, and we don't
need to know what's behind door number two. We just
gotta go. And and for the Nuggets. Happily they had
Adelman there and he just picks up and he'll coach
next year for the Knicks. They made that decision. The
fact that it became so public with all of these
(11:05):
dalliance's mind, if I dance with your date kind of
things is not good and it just makes you look
foolish when you had what was it eighteen different coaches
or something like that with experience some coaches of the year.
I'm not even gonna include Malone in that, but like
go to Budenholzer and all these other guys that you
don't bother to reach out and get in the pipeline.
(11:28):
At least make those the first that you're talking to.
So when you are back channeling the rest of these guys,
it doesn't look as foolish. But the Knicks, you're a
giant franchise, you're a power broker. You think you got
everybody just because they want tickets to the Sphere, They're
gonna do what you want. That's the James Dolan way.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, but I look at this point, I used to
be worried about the Sphere more than the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Now it's kind of equal.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Oh yeah, because you took the tour right, yeah, oh man,
the tour is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
The tours.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There, it's oh man, I'll tell I saw the Wizard
of Oz. I talked to robot. I talked to AI robots,
and I feel like, Okay, they're either going to save
the world or.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
They're gonna ultimately destroy us. Like, oh, that was that
was the best part.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Look, the best part of the sphere, like the the
look sitting in that in that atmosphere and watching the
movie that I did, it was I can't say it's
a bucket list thing, like it is so incredibly impressive.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I can't put it into words. But before you go in.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
There, you meet AI robots who are made up and
they have conversations with you, and they ask you questions.
They do impressions and and that, and.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's they do impressions.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, like they did.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They did imp rich little no like they would say oh,
and they would look over at someone, Oh, where are
you from and they would say, oh, we're from uh
leads in London.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And then the robot would would would.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Take like half a second and it looks like a
you know, shaped like what you think a humanoid robot
would look like.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And the robot says, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's Do I sound like someone who speaks like they're
from leads from the from the District section on on
you know, on Canterbury Avenue like all because they have
all the info at their their displays, Like, yes, you
sound just like that person. Have you ever gone to
the fish market on here? Yes, we go to the
fish market once a week. It's like, oh my god.
And then they're cracking jokes like and they then the
people would leave and they would say goodbye, So you
(13:17):
say goodbye, see you at the fish market And I'm going, oh, wow,
AI really is the best of us? Or they're gonna
completely take over and and and and we're gonna wind
up having to live underground and fighting the robots like
a terminator.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, there's a song called Shipyard from the Last
ship By Staying that talks about getting on a train
when you think you're going to sunderland. But you found
yourself in leads. See what I did? I pull it
all the way back. You got to listen to the
whole show, weeks of the show at a time. You
never know when something's gonna find its way back in.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I was always big on leads because I had the
who live at Leads? When I was at Leads, I
had no idea what leads was? Who live at Leads?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yes, leads, leads leads?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Where's leads? Doesn't matter? It was doesn't matter, it was
lot they were there.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Do you have the album? Yes, I have the album. Oh,
you have the album. That's great.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So just when I say Sga is having a horrible
game and I can't believe the Thunder is staying in it,
he has just reeled off nine points in the last
two and a half minutes and the Thunder have taken
a one oh four to one oh three lead over
the Pacers with two minutes to go in the fourth quarter.
He now has twenty nine on the night to lead
the Thunder. We are coming down to it with an
(14:28):
incredible finished. Look, it's been a great final so far.
And look all I can hope for in both the
NBA and the NHL. We go seven right now that
let's just go seven, man, we go seven.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Find all these games are close late, and they gave
us some thrillers the funny Thing and SGA another one
where he thought he was getting the fall, but he's like,
i'ven't been getting that call, so I'm just gonna play
through it. And then he hits the jump shot from
the side of the basket.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Pretty crazy exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen dome.
Your guy, lou Dort just got away with a huge foul.
U uh Indiana looking to dish the ball to Tyre's Halliburton,
and loud Dort just pushes Halliburton out of the way,
grabs the ball, gets up court, goes in for the
layup and gets fouled. I mean, can't fall to Halliburton
(15:14):
is just standing there waiting for the ball that lud
Dort just shows him out of the way.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
But that's the way they've officiated this game.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It's like you didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Were they looking at the guys dressed like dumb and
dumber on the sideline or what?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh my god? That Oh that's that's the best.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's that might be the best emblematic of the NBA
Playoffs this year. What constitutes a foul?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Man, Scott Fass for everybody the extender, Hey, sometimes I
extend games by not calling fouls. I don't just wait
till I extend this game by not sending guys the
free throw?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Where does this stand on the metal stand of his calls?
One calls to extend games of all time? Eight seven
one point lead for the Thunder one thirty seven left
to go.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Are we breaking down a stranglehold three to one lead
for the Pacers? Or are we all even going back
to Oklahoma City? Oh, it's must listen radio coming up
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Speaker 3 (17:24):
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Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, the extender is extending.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, extending the viewing window with a lot of full silliness.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
This tooid it counts.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh boy, that's two separate technical free throws for SGA
in the last five minutes because of fouls away from
the ball during a dead ball situation, and he makes
both of them. Oklahoma City right now has a one
oh nine, one oh four lead over the Pacers with
(18:01):
fifteen seconds left to go. Now it is the Pacers,
and we've seen him, you know, come back from this
deficit before. But it looks like Oklahoma City is going
to even this series of two games apiece, going back
home again. Two fouls away from the ball, dead ball
situation where the thunder trying to inbound whistled before the
ball is inbound, so sga at the free throw line.
(18:23):
Speaking of free throws, Matherin misses two big free throws
as well, So it's not like the Pacers consider and say,
wait a minute, wait a minute, he missed.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Two big free throws. It could have changed things. So
one nine to one oh four.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Right now, with seven seconds left to go, sgate the
free throw line.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
This thing is going back to Oklahoma City tied it to.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Well, you had the opportunity because after the first of
the technical files, the old hey, we're not able to
inbound the ball play happens where you get to the
file line after a potentially scary moment underneath the basket
with Williams and Matherin, and he goes and misses bold
free throws. Uh, setting up technical part two. So yes, extension,
(19:03):
but you know a little bit, we've seen it a
bit physical and chippy and when you don't call it early,
like all all going all the way up the ladder,
right from the lowest levels to the NBA guys are
gonna see how much they can get away with. The
only guy that got away with nothing tonight was de
Smith because he filed out a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It is now over Oklahoma City one eleven the Pacers
one oh four.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
This series goes.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Back to Oklahoma City tied at two games apiece, and uh,
look we.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Will you know what the spread was for this game?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Case?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
No, no, don't tell me. Don't tell me.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Was it really Yeah, I've saw it at five and
a half, I saw it at six, and I saw
it at six and a half. So yeah, free throws
down the stretch might have some eyebrowseres.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh so again, you know, the free throws help not
getting whistled for a big push off on jumper Dart.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know, clearly loud Dort.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean you look at the last five minutes of
this game, and really I just want to say wow,
like some of the stuff that didn't get called, uh
and did get called, Like Rick Carlisle is going to
lose his mind. Right, He's been very he's been very
calm throughout the NBA finals. Right, he's been very calm
throughout the NBA playoffs, not saying things like I hope
(20:23):
that you know the team doesn't look at big market.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The league does look at big market.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Teams and give them the advantage, like he did when
he started crying last year. Of the playoffs when they
were down.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
To the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
But like tonight, oh you could tell it's now to
too going back home, they lost home court advantage. He
is going to explode because this last look. And I
can't say I blame him because this is just stuff
we talked about in the last five minutes, right the
loud Dort play where it's a it's a one point
game and the Pacers have the ball and it looks
like Halliburton's gonna catch catch a pass and loud Dort
(20:55):
just shoves him out of the way and grabs it,
goes the other way for a layup, gets fouled those
of the free throw line, hits his free throws right
the two fouls away from the ball that are whistled,
which come on, man, really you know one of them?
The first one, No way was that a foul. The
second one I could see it because Sga kind of
got knocked to the ground, but both of those were called.
He goes the free throw line, so he gets those
(21:17):
extra free throws before they inbound the ball twice, big
time forearm pushoffs. But Sga, this is what MVPs. They
get those call. But man, I'll tell you. That's that's
like five calls in the last three minutes where I
could say, Man, if I'm the Pacers, I am just
not happy. And listen, Rick Carlisle is going to absolutely
explain I can't believe he's gonna keep his cool because
(21:38):
he's someone that can only do it for so long.
He is not gonna do that in this in this
post game just watch. Yeah, I mean that move on
that jump shot is a patented move. On first glance
when we were talking about it as it transpired, you
got a little bit of body, but then it becomes
the well get off me with authority to create that
space and the open.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
J the loot door call non call. I mean that's
gonna be what is that was in the final two minutes, right,
So that'll that'll show up in the two minute report
of Sorry. The first technical, okay, let it go. You've
been letting them be physical. The second one was clearly
just a bunch of guys in a scrum, right, trying
(22:18):
to set screens, trying to fight through screens, which you've
allowed them to do again all game long. That's been
some of the success for both of these squads and
the way they set their defenses this entire series, this
entire season. But SGA loses his balance, goes down, MVP call,
So Star Star turn Star getting calls is nothing new,
(22:41):
just they all stacked up one way as this game
came down to its final moments. And again, the Dort
play is probably the one that just stands out amongst
all the others, right because there's no that's not a
basketball play. That's not a hey, we were both fighting
for the ball. That's a get out to hear I'm
taking this and going the other way again, can't fold
(23:03):
a good strategy if you see the guy is misposition
where his whistle is take full advantage.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Scott Foster doing Scott Foster things right, like he's he's
a ill MVP of the game. Because these are all
calls that we're talking about in the final two minutes
of a back and forth playoff and it's a one
point game, and these are all things that well, Okay,
so maybe maybe of the five, maybe you don't get
three of them, Okay, I get that, but these are five, like,
(23:31):
these are five calls man that that you that you
did not get. It's two freebies at the free throw line.
It's well Actually it's more because you talk you talk
about lou Dort making his free throws too, So it's
four free throws and it's and it's at least two
baskets by by SGA who pushed off big time twice
and didn't it didn't get called for it. So I mean,
you're you're talking about that's that's eight points in the
(23:54):
final two minutes and the final margin of what it
was like that those are big things.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
If if on you say, okay, if Oklahoma City got
three of those five calls, it's a toss up game, right,
like I I know, let's say, look, Rick Carlisle's going
to absolutely explode and I can't say I blame him
because this is this is where Now okay, I want
to say something about the officiating going back for these
last three games, because enough is enough. Right We saw
(24:19):
it tonight the last two minutes of this, I mean,
oh my god, the last two minutes when they're they
call him and say hey Rick, yeah, NBA listen.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh hey, sorry about that. You'll see the Lettin report
talking by click wait.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
What hello, hello hello yeah block block block Rickcarla, block Crickcarla.
So I mean I I can't wait to see what
he says. But I can't believe he's gonna hold his
tongue and he and he shouldn't because I'll be out. Look,
I said in the beginning, this series is going seven,
that the Pacers win Game three, the Thunderwood win game
fource oh, feeling grateful, But you know you call it
like you see at the final two minutes, and wow,
(24:52):
was there some stuff that clearly was was pushed the
Thunderway to tie this series up.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Look, and generally the lever of the you call it
as you did the rest of your forty six minutes
prior that. That means if you're letting him play physically,
you let him get after it, right, unless it's egregious
and you need to blow the whistle. You know, I'm
not a a It's now the final two minutes, so
don't call it. I'm I think consistency goes through. So
(25:21):
they were consistently bad. So I guess it holds up
upon further scrutiny to a degree. But what's the first
question to Rick Carlisle? So and then you just hold
up her hands like you do that, I don't know,
shrug like you do that Kevin James meme, you know
(25:41):
when he's in the kitchen and he's got his hands
in his pocket looking like a little kid who just
got caught with his hand in the cookies. Your heart, man,
that's really all you can do here, and just say,
all right, have at it.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Rick, Hi, Jason Smith, Fox Sports Radio. Do I even
need to ask? Or do you just want to just go?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right? Do we even need to give you a question
or do you just you just want to go? Rick,
just just go, just go. That's all we need for.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
The sake of his question, her question, that guy's question
back there, and Joe in the back. Rick, just just
just let it out.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, really, look, I give the thunder all the
credit in the world. We're gonna get bigger into SGA
coming up in a few minutes. But this clearly was
going the Pacers way, and they found a way back
in it. They found a way back in it when
it took SGA until the final five minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
To really start a cutting through here.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But you know, now the series is to a piece,
and we go back to what I said after it
was it was tied at one, and I said, look,
this series is going seven. Right, neither team has solved
the other team. You're going to see one team play well,
and it's going to be in every other game the
rest of the series. Right, the Pacers win game one,
Oklahoma City had just to win Game two. The Pacers
(26:53):
are just to win game three. Oklahoma City had just
to win game four. Right, And I'm still sticking with
the beginning where I said, Okay, Game five, Pacers game six,
thunder game seven. Right, that's how it's gonna go. And
that's exactly what we've seen. Neither team is strong enough
to be able to knock out the other team. And
clearly you're looking at the Pacers now, who all of
a sudden, the big, the big red flag for them is, hey,
(27:16):
we haven't hit threes in a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Guys. It's been two games since we have more than that,
two and a.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Half game since we started hit three.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
And this is this is it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man, Like, we don't win if we don't hit threes.
This is a really we got lucky that we were
able to get by without hitting threes in Game three
and we won. But it's been a bit and this
is what's carried us throughout the entire playoffs. Like they
have to hit their threes. This is what does it
for them. And if they just you could say all
you want about the officiating at the end of the
game tonight, But if the Pacers go six of seventeen
(27:47):
from three point range, they win the game, right, not
even like eight of seventeen nine sec they go six
for seventeen, they win this game.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, Thunder three of seventeen Pacers eight more makes eleven
and thirty six on the night free throw disparity, it
was only a five differential. Oh and here's the thing.
They also the Thunder took care of their free throws,
shooting ninety percent as opposed to seventy five percent for
the Pacers, including those two big misses from Matharn in
(28:15):
the final minutes. Points in the paint huge for the Thunder,
a fourteen point differential there, and then turnovers ended up
being even. We saw some of the inbound issues that
had plagued teams.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
All year long.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
With the pressure Indiana was mounting, but they couldn't take
care of business at the offensive end in the final stretch.
Fourteen points of victory for the Thunder in the fourth
quarter thirty one seventeen to decided flip over what we'd
seen through the first three games of this series. So
maybe getting SGA those six minutes of rest, which was
(28:53):
actually about forty five minutes of real time because of
all the officiated stoppages of the clock, really came back
to benefit them in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because did you see Scott fosterraction over say hey, you
need a couple more minutes.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, wait a minute, we're gonna review. What do we review?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Gonna review, gonna review.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And look how tired SGA is right in a portable hyperbaric.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Chain, Like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
All of a sudden they just wheel it out and
it's right there on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Why's that guy in a sarcophagase?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What that? What's going on here?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Why are they? Why are they taking the chair? Don't
the players sit in those chairs? Oh no, No, that's
where the chamber's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You got a couple of dudes in their garden for like,
what's going on there?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
No.
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
Happy Friday the thirteenth, Happy Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
The NBA Finals are now tied at two games apiece
the Thunder thanks to some.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Fortuitous officiating non calls on the SGA four on pushoffs,
loud Dort shoving Tyrese Heliburton out of the way for
a big steal.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
That one's still curious to me.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Man, the away from the ball fouls that are called
in the final minute, Boy Scott Foster.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
The extender extend, that's what extenders do. They want.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You don't bring an extender and to be surprised when
they're extending. Extenders extend. It's what they do, man, Extenders extend.
But I do want to say this because this is
also a big hard of the game and you got
to give credit where credits due. I said going into
game four, this is an SGA game. The thunder don't
win this game unless SGA has an MVP night, and
(35:11):
he did not have one for the vast majority of
the game. He had twenty one points on twenty shots.
Like that doesn't work, man, Like that you buried him.
He was having a base inspired him taken. Yes, I
am taking all kinds of credit for that, because the
last five minutes of this.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Game he was absolutely bananas. All right.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Now, Now it's not thirty five. He didn't get thirty five,
but that's okay, he didn't get forty.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I'm gonna take the w because he went.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
For thirty five and he scored I want to say
it was what fourteen points in the final six minutes in.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
The fifteen their final sixteen points.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
It was an incredible run. And let this is what
MVP players do. Man, this is the SGA. I am
not gonna let us lose game, right. J Williams was
terrific all game right, Chet Holmgren really came up big,
Alex Caruso off the bench, But the last five and
a half minutes this was SGA. Yes, he got some
he got some officiating non calls, got the yes, I
(36:12):
understand this, But this is where the MVP says, I'm
not gonna let us lose. When when everybody starts shaking
a little bit and things are getting a little weird
and a little serious, and you're you're staring at the
end of your season, this is where the MVP says,
it's my time. And he was the guy that won
the game, and I look, that's why I said, coming in, SGA,
does it not show up? But he had enough not
showing up in the last game. In the first three
(36:34):
and a half quarters of this game, it was like
Superman two when the whole world is going, Superman, where
are you?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Where we need your Superman? These three people have come
from Krypton.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
In general Zod is running things, and I mean the
old General Zod Terrence Stamp, not the new one Michael Shannon.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean we got to you got Superman. Where are you?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
The President's on TV Superman Like I'm saying the same thing, SGA,
where are you Man? You are ISO balling it and
you're you're you're not dishing, You're not getting anybody involved.
You no assist tonight dude, what is happening? And then
all of a sudden, Nope, give me the game. The
last five and a half minutes he couldn't miss. He
got to the free throw line. Everything he needed to
do he did. This is what MVPs do when he
(37:12):
came through that way.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Three of six in the fourth quarter from the field,
but eight of eight from the line, taking care of business.
He was plus sixteen during that time. Finishes with thirty
five points. Curious going through the addles of history of
teams to win a finals game with the fewest team
assists because they did not move the ball for anything,
(37:35):
trying to punctuate your statement of the ball stop or
that SGA was but when it mattered, came up big
fortuitous of the calls that got him to the line
during the regular season and all through these playoffs. In
the final minutes, there's some contact. He's getting the call
all right now or non call as it were on
(37:57):
the jumper that I think will be shown now billion times.
I think it's gonna end up looking like the one
with Jordan and Russell before it's all said and done,
that compar shortan that was Angel Reese. Yeah, I'm gonna
leave that one sit there. For sure, I'm gonna put
that there fastest to five hundred points and five hundred
rebounds in w NBA history, you know, just because I
(38:18):
know my w NBA history. But for for Sga, yeah,
a huge moment. And now we get the best of three,
absolute chaos.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I love him, man, I'll tell you that this was
absolutely Uh it's what you need to see. It's what
you want to see when you're the MVP. These are
the games you have to have it at least the
fourth quarter. And and knowing he was gonna take all
the shots and the Pacers still couldn't stop him, knowing
he's he's taking every shot, He's taking every shot, and
(38:48):
we can roll the coverages towards you, we can figure
things out. And again I'm not again, I'm not gonna
say that getting the pushoffs and not getting calf that helps.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
It really dates help.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I mean, it really does help when you can push
the other team and not get foul calls at that
really and when they push you you get the call.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
That really helps. But but this is I mean, look,
this was easy. This was easy to see.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Sga is gonna do it, and he is, and this
is why all teammates stand behind in interviews and they
yell MVP and they say incredible things about him, like
we talked about him. You want to look for a
face of the league being a shake Gilgess Alexander. You
see the way his teammates feel about him and what
they say, and how he takes over games at the end.
And it doesn't always need to be a great heroic shot.
(39:35):
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's but it's always the right
basketball play, which Lebron always says. The right basketball payer
iss be to pass out of that double team with
you know, one second left in the game. But he
always seems to make the right basketball play, and that's
really something. That's what he does better than almost anybody
else in the league right now is make those right plays.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
The curiosity though, is the number of makeable field goals,
because he finished with zero assists.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Now zero, When you score fourteen out and the last sixteen,
you don't need to pass, man.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Where were you the other three quarters? Man? We break
down more Game four next Fox
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm anna ask man true Indiana.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Lead's Oklahoma City right now? Ninety five ninety one, still
six minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
To go in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And look, we spent a lot of time last hour
talking about the Pacers and what they're doing, and you know,
look it it's really been something to watch. But I
gotta say this for Oklahoma City. Right when we started
the show, I didn't like the way the game was
going for the Thunder because they just didn't seem like
they were they were all on the same page. They
felt like they were struggling and the Pacers were just
(01:06):
waiting to really kick it up a notch. And I said,
the way they're staying in this game. The only way
the Thunder in this game is if suddenly Sga just
I'm putting the team on my back and this is
how we're gonna win, and I'm gonna score forty points
and they're somehow in it. It's a four point game.
Despite the fact that Sga is having a horrendous game,
(01:28):
a horrendous game, he has been a ball stopper for
the most for most of the second half. All this
isole ball that he's playing. He's nine out of twenty
one from the floor. He's got twenty points on twenty
one shots, right, Like, that's that's not gonna do it, man,
that that doesn't get it done. He's not getting anybody involved.
He's got zero assists on the game. He's been to
(01:49):
the free throw line twice. Like he is just he is.
He is ball stopping for the Thunder, and the Pacers
are basically saying, hey, okay, great, thanks but and I thought, okay,
I tell you this, how are the Thunder staying in
this because Alex Caruso is Benedict Mathern off the bench
with twenty and Jalen Williams has twenty five, including a
perfect eleven for eleven from the free throw line. This
(02:13):
game makes no sense now I thought it just a
fifteen minutes go buy Mike Carbon in the game makes
no sense.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Get good balance with Williams and Caruso and home girns
at fourteen and twelve. Still not moving the ball very well.
Like we talked about earlier in the show, when you
look at the assists against the field goals made you know,
going back to your ball stopping eight assists on thirty
two makes there's got to be some stat to go
(02:41):
through that. I don't know who the Sarah Langs of
the NBA stats people are, but that just seems kind
of odd to me. They're just two of sixteen from
three point range are the Thunder. Yet we're still talking
about a game in the balance, So what's curious. Also
for Indiana tonight, Aliburton shot his first free throws of
(03:02):
the series, so he finally got that into the scoring column.
But giving you a little bit of balance as he
does on what he's up to fourteen points, seven assists,
so giving you that and you've got five guys in
double figures for the Pacers. But yeah, Thunder had been
able to hang around. It ain't clean. It ain't pretty.
(03:22):
The referees making a nuisance of themselves with some of
their calls, and certainly the historyonics they're given. Frank Dreben
a little bit of a run with some of the
theatrics on falls at the baseline.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Now, now that was a great point you maybe, but
I want to ask you a very important question. Do
you think we get the Enrico Palazzo in the Liam
Neeson remake that's coming out soon?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
We got to add something similar, don't we. Okay, And
I've seen that commercial a couple of times tonight, A
nice reminder that that's there for you because the other
day we did talk about all of those people on
the panel. Well we got to Dick Enberg and Jim Palmer,
Joyce brother Kirsty Batimer and did them all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Uh so we'll keep you updated here again. Just over
just under five minutes left to go. It's a one
point game, Indiana leading Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
SGA is playing terribly and it's it's a one point game.
They're beating the hell out of him too. I mean
that can't be understated. Like you know who he's He's
looked at the officials. If you had enough to added
up the stare time stared down time. See I gave
away the joke stared down time from SGA. It might
be longer than the guy rolling down the stairs and
(04:32):
Friday the Thirteenth, Part two.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Meanwhile, last night we proved that basically I could be
the GM of the Knicks, and you can pay me
a lot less money than you're paying Leon Rose and
everybody else to run things right, because I told you, Hey,
if you if I could have called James Dole and said, hey,
fifty give me pay me fifty grand, and and I'll
say an hour, even though I only need three minutes,
(04:56):
I'll tell you who to go talk to to be
the nixt head coach.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, Who did I say? Mike Right? First guy?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I said when when they fired Tibbs. As Mike Brown's
the guy, the offensive system, the defensive system. He's coached
big markets, he's coach big superstars. He's he's basically done
everything that Jason Kidd has done. Right, He's done everything
Jason Kidd has done. Mike Brown is your guy, right,
Mike Brown is the guy. And we found out last night, Hey,
potentially the Knicks should be talking to Mike Brown Okay, great,
(05:22):
then you said, hey, remember on that first night, Oh,
I said, Mike Brown, you said, Taylor Jenkins, right, Hey,
Taylor Jenkins, you gotta go get him, right, He's got
to be the guy. You gotta go talk to him, right, Okay, okay,
uh shams. Trania puts this out a little bit less
than an hour ago. Next week, the New York Knicks
are planning to meet with Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown
for their head coaching job together. These are yes, listen,
(05:46):
we don't want to talk to you guys separately. Maybe
you guys can tag team this and like coach.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You got offense, go and and now switch Now we
switch rolls right like it's an improv game.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We're gonna do yes. End Okay, yes end.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I want to trade Karl Anthony Towns Okay, Taylor j Yes,
And I want to trade Oganno Noby Okay, back to you,
Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yes, and who's Ogano Noby? Oh you stopped it there?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
More could come, but these are the first formal interviews
for the Knicks vacancy. So now we know we could
be running the Knicks. And they listen to the show
because after last night, hey today. Hey, look we're talking
to Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins.
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Speaker 1 (06:36):
Come on, running the Knicks from three thousand miles away
working on it, not nearly as much because really they
fire TIBs. Okay, who do you want? All in the
No Mike Brown, Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins, Right? I like
Sam Cassell, who doesn't than he's gonna get any interviews
because he's always up and coming, but he's never on
anybody's list.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So I'm like, Okay, that's fine, But like.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
These are these are the guys, right, these are the
guys you should have been talking to first, or way
to reach out to, because this ridiculous. Let's go out
and ask permission and the guys you should ask if
you're being told though, why not ask Spolster?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Why not ask the.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Warriors for Steve Kerr, What's what are they gonna tell
you anything worse?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You've been told so far? When you reached out to
the Hawks and he told you know, and the bulls
told you no.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Come on, man, it's embarrassing the.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I mean, like they went from a destination to now
you really don't know what how you do it?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Now everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh, I see, you don't know what you're doing, Like
Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins should clearly have been at
the top of the list, Like if you talk to
Brown and Jenkins and Mike Malone, even though hiring Malone
is kind of like getting TIBs again, so that's kind
of weird. And the fact that he was just fired
by a team and that because he lost the team. Okay, yeah,
not my uh, not my first choice to jump in
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and I want to I want to get in there.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, same guy, just a little louder at the microphone.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, you need something a little bit. You need to
make sure you change, you change the energy and right.
And this is why teams always go from a disciplinarian
to a player's coach, and then you get back to
a disciplinarian because eventually each of their messages wear thin, right,
And it wore thin with TIBs, and Tibbs had to
like there's there's no doubt in my mind, the Knicks
had to let TIBs go, right, the players didn't want
(08:15):
to play for him anymore. Clearly they had had gone
as far as they were going to under him. He
was out coaching the playoffs. No, the Knicks had to
do this, but what they should have done, and we said, look,
it's okay if you take some time, it is okay.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's a big thing that just happened. We don't need
to hear.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Just because people are talking about it doesn't mean we
need to hear that you're going forward. Let's let let's
let things settle for a little bit, figure out the
direction you want to go, because I know you had
to let him go when you did because you wanted
to move on. Right, we know we're not we're not
bringing them back. We're gonna we're gonna rip the band
aid off now and that's how we're gonna go forward.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And there's no timeline. We don't need to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You really want your your coach in by the draft,
which you still have a few days for that, or
at the very least by free agency.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Right, that's you have time.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
But instead the Knicks panic with this stupid ass like
I really think I honestly think the Knicks, Leon Rose.
They thought we're the Knicks, We're great. And the first
couple of teams we reach out to, we're gonna poach
a coach from somebody. We're gonna poach a coach, right, well,
I like that to you. Put that on a T shirt,
poach you coach, like we are gonna do it when
somebody's gonna say yes, because we're the bleep and Nicks
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and we're back. And suddenly, oh boy, this really didn't
turn out the way we thought. We thought coaches would
be dying to get to the Knicks. They would they
would stand up and say, no, free me up so
I can interview with this job. And nobody is. The
coaches aren't saying anything, the teams aren't letting him do it,
and this is the Knicks, right, Just sit back, don't panic,
right or talk to Mike Brown, talk to Taylor Jenkins,
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talk to Mike Malone, right, no reason, and bring guys
back for a second.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
These are the guys you should be talking to, right,
It's absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And then hey, throw stuff out there, back channel the
hell out of it where it's hey, you know, we
really Hey, Jason Kidd we really would, you know, if
you wanted to come here, we'd really like you, man,
we really like you to come. And then Jason Kidd
tells the Mavericks, Hey, I want to go coach the Knicks,
And what happens They have to give him permission because
they have to fire him anyway, because you don't come
back and coach a team when you say you want
to leave and go coach someone else.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Completely mismanages from the beginning because you know Knicks, but like,
this was the way they should have done it, and
these are the guys should have been talking to in
the very first place.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, if you love someone, you let him go. If
they return their yours. If they don't, they never were there.
You go. It sounds better in Spanish, but well we'll
leave that for another time because you need some cool
guitar underneath. But it's the look. The firing of TIV
was the same as the Nuggets when they fired Michael Malone.
(10:44):
So they're tied forever at the hip of Yeah, we
know we're getting getting rid of you, and we don't
need to know what's behind door number two. We just
gotta go. And and for the Nuggets. Happily they had
Adelman there and he just picks up and he'll coach
next year for the Knicks. They made that decision. The
fact that it became so public with all of these
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dalliance's mind, if I dance with your date kind of
things is not good and it just makes you look
foolish when you had what was it eighteen different coaches
or something like that with experience some coaches of the year.
I'm not even gonna include Malone in that, but like
go to Budenholzer and all these other guys that you
don't bother to reach out and get in the pipeline.
(11:28):
At least make those the first that you're talking to.
So when you are back channeling the rest of these guys,
it doesn't look as foolish. But the Knicks, you're a
giant franchise, you're a power broker. You think you got
everybody just because they want tickets to the Sphere, They're
gonna do what you want. That's the James Dolan way.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, but I look at this point, I used to
be worried about the Sphere more than the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Now it's kind of equal.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Oh yeah, because you took the tour right, yeah, oh man,
the tour is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
The tours.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There, it's oh man, I'll tell I saw the Wizard
of Oz. I talked to robot. I talked to AI robots,
and I feel like, Okay, they're either going to save
the world or.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
They're gonna ultimately destroy us. Like, oh, that was that
was the best part.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Look, the best part of the sphere, like the the
look sitting in that in that atmosphere and watching the
movie that I did, it was I can't say it's
a bucket list thing, like it is so incredibly impressive.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I can't put it into words. But before you go in.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
There, you meet AI robots who are made up and
they have conversations with you, and they ask you questions.
They do impressions and and that, and.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's they do impressions.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, like they did.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They did imp rich little no like they would say oh,
and they would look over at someone, Oh, where are
you from and they would say, oh, we're from uh
leads in London.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And then the robot would would would.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Take like half a second and it looks like a
you know, shaped like what you think a humanoid robot
would look like.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And the robot says, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's Do I sound like someone who speaks like they're
from leads from the from the District section on on
you know, on Canterbury Avenue like all because they have
all the info at their their displays, Like, yes, you
sound just like that person. Have you ever gone to
the fish market on here? Yes, we go to the
fish market once a week. It's like, oh my god.
And then they're cracking jokes like and they then the
people would leave and they would say goodbye, So you
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say goodbye, see you at the fish market And I'm going, oh, wow,
AI really is the best of us? Or they're gonna
completely take over and and and and we're gonna wind
up having to live underground and fighting the robots like
a terminator.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, there's a song called Shipyard from the Last
ship By Staying that talks about getting on a train
when you think you're going to sunderland. But you found
yourself in leads. See what I did? I pull it
all the way back. You got to listen to the
whole show, weeks of the show at a time. You
never know when something's gonna find its way back in.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I was always big on leads because I had the
who live at Leads? When I was at Leads, I
had no idea what leads was? Who live at Leads?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yes, leads, leads leads?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Where's leads? Doesn't matter? It was doesn't matter, it was
lot they were there.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Do you have the album? Yes, I have the album. Oh,
you have the album. That's great.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So just when I say Sga is having a horrible
game and I can't believe the Thunder is staying in it,
he has just reeled off nine points in the last
two and a half minutes and the Thunder have taken
a one oh four to one oh three lead over
the Pacers with two minutes to go in the fourth quarter.
He now has twenty nine on the night to lead
the Thunder. We are coming down to it with an
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incredible finished. Look, it's been a great final so far.
And look all I can hope for in both the
NBA and the NHL. We go seven right now that
let's just go seven, man, we go seven.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Find all these games are close late, and they gave
us some thrillers the funny Thing and SGA another one
where he thought he was getting the fall, but he's like,
i'ven't been getting that call, so I'm just gonna play
through it. And then he hits the jump shot from
the side of the basket.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Pretty crazy exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen dome.
Your guy, lou Dort just got away with a huge foul.
U uh Indiana looking to dish the ball to Tyre's Halliburton,
and loud Dort just pushes Halliburton out of the way,
grabs the ball, gets up court, goes in for the
layup and gets fouled. I mean, can't fall to Halliburton
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is just standing there waiting for the ball that lud
Dort just shows him out of the way.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
But that's the way they've officiated this game.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It's like you didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Were they looking at the guys dressed like dumb and
dumber on the sideline or what?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh my god? That Oh that's that's the best.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's that might be the best emblematic of the NBA
Playoffs this year. What constitutes a foul?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Man, Scott Fass for everybody the extender, Hey, sometimes I
extend games by not calling fouls. I don't just wait
till I extend this game by not sending guys the
free throw?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Where does this stand on the metal stand of his calls?
One calls to extend games of all time? Eight seven
one point lead for the Thunder one thirty seven left
to go.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Are we breaking down a stranglehold three to one lead
for the Pacers? Or are we all even going back
to Oklahoma City? Oh, it's must listen radio coming up
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Speaker 3 (17:24):
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Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, the extender is extending.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, extending the viewing window with a lot of full silliness.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
This tooid it counts.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh boy, that's two separate technical free throws for SGA
in the last five minutes because of fouls away from
the ball during a dead ball situation, and he makes
both of them. Oklahoma City right now has a one
oh nine, one oh four lead over the Pacers with
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fifteen seconds left to go. Now it is the Pacers,
and we've seen him, you know, come back from this
deficit before. But it looks like Oklahoma City is going
to even this series of two games apiece, going back
home again. Two fouls away from the ball, dead ball
situation where the thunder trying to inbound whistled before the
ball is inbound, so sga at the free throw line.
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Speaking of free throws, Matherin misses two big free throws
as well, So it's not like the Pacers consider and say,
wait a minute, wait a minute, he missed.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Two big free throws. It could have changed things. So
one nine to one oh four.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Right now, with seven seconds left to go, sgate the
free throw line.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
This thing is going back to Oklahoma City tied it to.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Well, you had the opportunity because after the first of
the technical files, the old hey, we're not able to
inbound the ball play happens where you get to the
file line after a potentially scary moment underneath the basket
with Williams and Matherin, and he goes and misses bold
free throws. Uh, setting up technical part two. So yes, extension,
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but you know a little bit, we've seen it a
bit physical and chippy and when you don't call it early,
like all all going all the way up the ladder,
right from the lowest levels to the NBA guys are
gonna see how much they can get away with. The
only guy that got away with nothing tonight was de
Smith because he filed out a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It is now over Oklahoma City one eleven the Pacers
one oh four.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
This series goes.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Back to Oklahoma City tied at two games apiece, and uh,
look we.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Will you know what the spread was for this game?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Case?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
No, no, don't tell me. Don't tell me.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Was it really Yeah, I've saw it at five and
a half, I saw it at six, and I saw
it at six and a half. So yeah, free throws
down the stretch might have some eyebrowseres.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh so again, you know, the free throws help not
getting whistled for a big push off on jumper Dart.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know, clearly loud Dort.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean you look at the last five minutes of
this game, and really I just want to say wow,
like some of the stuff that didn't get called, uh
and did get called, Like Rick Carlisle is going to
lose his mind. Right, He's been very he's been very
calm throughout the NBA finals. Right, he's been very calm
throughout the NBA playoffs, not saying things like I hope
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that you know the team doesn't look at big market.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The league does look at big market.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Teams and give them the advantage, like he did when
he started crying last year. Of the playoffs when they
were down.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
To the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
But like tonight, oh you could tell it's now to
too going back home, they lost home court advantage. He
is going to explode because this last look. And I
can't say I blame him because this is just stuff
we talked about in the last five minutes, right the
loud Dort play where it's a it's a one point
game and the Pacers have the ball and it looks
like Halliburton's gonna catch catch a pass and loud Dort
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just shoves him out of the way and grabs it,
goes the other way for a layup, gets fouled those
of the free throw line, hits his free throws right
the two fouls away from the ball that are whistled,
which come on, man, really you know one of them?
The first one, No way was that a foul. The
second one I could see it because Sga kind of
got knocked to the ground, but both of those were called.
He goes the free throw line, so he gets those
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extra free throws before they inbound the ball twice, big
time forearm pushoffs. But Sga, this is what MVPs. They
get those call. But man, I'll tell you. That's that's
like five calls in the last three minutes where I
could say, Man, if I'm the Pacers, I am just
not happy. And listen, Rick Carlisle is going to absolutely
explain I can't believe he's gonna keep his cool because
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he's someone that can only do it for so long.
He is not gonna do that in this in this
post game just watch. Yeah, I mean that move on
that jump shot is a patented move. On first glance
when we were talking about it as it transpired, you
got a little bit of body, but then it becomes
the well get off me with authority to create that
space and the open.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
J the loot door call non call. I mean that's
gonna be what is that was in the final two minutes, right,
So that'll that'll show up in the two minute report
of Sorry. The first technical, okay, let it go. You've
been letting them be physical. The second one was clearly
just a bunch of guys in a scrum, right, trying
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to set screens, trying to fight through screens, which you've
allowed them to do again all game long. That's been
some of the success for both of these squads and
the way they set their defenses this entire series, this
entire season. But SGA loses his balance, goes down, MVP call,
So Star Star turn Star getting calls is nothing new,
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just they all stacked up one way as this game
came down to its final moments. And again, the Dort
play is probably the one that just stands out amongst
all the others, right because there's no that's not a
basketball play. That's not a hey, we were both fighting
for the ball. That's a get out to hear I'm
taking this and going the other way again, can't fold
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a good strategy if you see the guy is misposition
where his whistle is take full advantage.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Scott Foster doing Scott Foster things right, like he's he's
a ill MVP of the game. Because these are all
calls that we're talking about in the final two minutes
of a back and forth playoff and it's a one
point game, and these are all things that well, Okay,
so maybe maybe of the five, maybe you don't get
three of them, Okay, I get that, but these are five, like,
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these are five calls man that that you that you
did not get. It's two freebies at the free throw line.
It's well Actually it's more because you talk you talk
about lou Dort making his free throws too, So it's
four free throws and it's and it's at least two
baskets by by SGA who pushed off big time twice
and didn't it didn't get called for it. So I mean,
you're you're talking about that's that's eight points in the
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final two minutes and the final margin of what it
was like that those are big things.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
If if on you say, okay, if Oklahoma City got
three of those five calls, it's a toss up game, right,
like I I know, let's say, look, Rick Carlisle's going
to absolutely explode and I can't say I blame him
because this is this is where Now okay, I want
to say something about the officiating going back for these
last three games, because enough is enough. Right We saw
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it tonight the last two minutes of this, I mean,
oh my god, the last two minutes when they're they
call him and say hey Rick, yeah, NBA listen.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh hey, sorry about that. You'll see the Lettin report
talking by click wait.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
What hello, hello hello yeah block block block Rickcarla, block Crickcarla.
So I mean I I can't wait to see what
he says. But I can't believe he's gonna hold his
tongue and he and he shouldn't because I'll be out. Look,
I said in the beginning, this series is going seven,
that the Pacers win Game three, the Thunderwood win game
fource oh, feeling grateful, But you know you call it
like you see at the final two minutes, and wow,
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was there some stuff that clearly was was pushed the
Thunderway to tie this series up.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Look, and generally the lever of the you call it
as you did the rest of your forty six minutes
prior that. That means if you're letting him play physically,
you let him get after it, right, unless it's egregious
and you need to blow the whistle. You know, I'm
not a a It's now the final two minutes, so
don't call it. I'm I think consistency goes through. So
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they were consistently bad. So I guess it holds up
upon further scrutiny to a degree. But what's the first
question to Rick Carlisle? So and then you just hold
up her hands like you do that, I don't know,
shrug like you do that Kevin James meme, you know
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when he's in the kitchen and he's got his hands
in his pocket looking like a little kid who just
got caught with his hand in the cookies. Your heart, man,
that's really all you can do here, and just say,
all right, have at it.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Rick, Hi, Jason Smith, Fox Sports Radio. Do I even
need to ask? Or do you just want to just go?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right? Do we even need to give you a question
or do you just you just want to go? Rick,
just just go, just go. That's all we need for.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
The sake of his question, her question, that guy's question
back there, and Joe in the back. Rick, just just
just let it out.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, really, look, I give the thunder all the
credit in the world. We're gonna get bigger into SGA
coming up in a few minutes. But this clearly was
going the Pacers way, and they found a way back
in it. They found a way back in it when
it took SGA until the final five minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
To really start a cutting through here.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But you know, now the series is to a piece,
and we go back to what I said after it
was it was tied at one, and I said, look,
this series is going seven. Right, neither team has solved
the other team. You're going to see one team play well,
and it's going to be in every other game the
rest of the series. Right, the Pacers win game one,
Oklahoma City had just to win Game two. The Pacers
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are just to win game three. Oklahoma City had just
to win game four. Right, And I'm still sticking with
the beginning where I said, Okay, Game five, Pacers game six,
thunder game seven. Right, that's how it's gonna go. And
that's exactly what we've seen. Neither team is strong enough
to be able to knock out the other team. And
clearly you're looking at the Pacers now, who all of
a sudden, the big, the big red flag for them is, hey,
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we haven't hit threes in a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Guys. It's been two games since we have more than that,
two and a.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Half game since we started hit three.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
And this is this is it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man, Like, we don't win if we don't hit threes.
This is a really we got lucky that we were
able to get by without hitting threes in Game three
and we won. But it's been a bit and this
is what's carried us throughout the entire playoffs. Like they
have to hit their threes. This is what does it
for them. And if they just you could say all
you want about the officiating at the end of the
game tonight, But if the Pacers go six of seventeen
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from three point range, they win the game, right, not
even like eight of seventeen nine sec they go six
for seventeen, they win this game.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, Thunder three of seventeen Pacers eight more makes eleven
and thirty six on the night free throw disparity, it
was only a five differential. Oh and here's the thing.
They also the Thunder took care of their free throws,
shooting ninety percent as opposed to seventy five percent for
the Pacers, including those two big misses from Matharn in
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the final minutes. Points in the paint huge for the Thunder,
a fourteen point differential there, and then turnovers ended up
being even. We saw some of the inbound issues that
had plagued teams.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
All year long.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
With the pressure Indiana was mounting, but they couldn't take
care of business at the offensive end in the final stretch.
Fourteen points of victory for the Thunder in the fourth
quarter thirty one seventeen to decided flip over what we'd
seen through the first three games of this series. So
maybe getting SGA those six minutes of rest, which was
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actually about forty five minutes of real time because of
all the officiated stoppages of the clock, really came back
to benefit them in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because did you see Scott fosterraction over say hey, you
need a couple more minutes.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, wait a minute, we're gonna review. What do we review?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Gonna review, gonna review.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And look how tired SGA is right in a portable hyperbaric.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Chain, Like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
All of a sudden they just wheel it out and
it's right there on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Why's that guy in a sarcophagase?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What that? What's going on here?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Why are they? Why are they taking the chair? Don't
the players sit in those chairs? Oh no, No, that's
where the chamber's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You got a couple of dudes in their garden for like,
what's going on there?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
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So someone who's been called the Jason v he's a
Fox Sports Radio WHOA. There's one time when he was
a kid of camp, he went swimming and two counselors
supposed to watch him decided to have sex instead. He
ran into trouble. It's Steve de Seger.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Wow, is this going to be going on all night?
For crying out loud?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You got two more Jason Vorhees is coming, just get
ready for Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Well, I'm not sure people know who you're talking about
at this point in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You think people don't know Jason Vorhees.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Really, in twenty twenty five, more.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
People know Jason Vhees is a hockey mask and can
name one person.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Well, he's in the NHL.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Hockey mask absolutely actual person's name.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Not so sure.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, I think Jason's pretty synonymous, and I'm not saying
just this is my name.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, pretty synonymous.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
This is hosted by Jason even that he's.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
That old killer right from like forty years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, even when it's Thursday the twelfth, Do you get
Jason here short.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Saturday the fourteenth with Richard Benjamin? Sure?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, You're not gonna be here on Saturday.
There fourteen Shake Gildews Alexander thirty five points.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh after that last two minutes, Steve, I don't think
any of us will be here for o.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Clob City tied at two games apiece after winning it
a comeback at Indiana one eleven one to oh four,
outscoring the Pacers in about the last ten minutes twenty
nine to fifteen. Shay Giljus Alexander with the thirty five
points and no assists in an NBA game for the
first time in almost five years. But according to AP
(31:23):
this season regular season plus playoffs, he scored at least
thirty points in a game sixty three different times. In
the last fifty seasons, only James Harden and of course
Michael Jordan have done that. His team is even and
going home for Game five on Monday night in the
WNBA Dallas at one and ten is in action at
(31:46):
Vegas and has taken the lead at Vegas seventy six
seventy one with about five minutes to go. Vegas three
time MVP Asia Wilson out tonight with a concussion. Atlanta
seven and three after beating Chicago eighty eight to seventy
ryaned with thirty six points from three point range. She
was nine of nineteen. Sam Burns leads by one at
(32:06):
the US Open to Major League Baseball. The Giants can
tie the Dodgers for first in the NL West Tonight.
The Giants are leading at LA, starting a weekend series
there five to one going to the sixth inning, just
one hit for the Dodgers. Meanwhile, LA starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto
allowed two early home runs, including a grand Slam. It
(32:26):
is the Diamondbacks five to one over the Padres top
of the seventh, Cleveland tied two to two at Seattle
bottom of the fifth, and a couple games on the
East Coast still going because of rain delays, the Marlins
holding on now eight seven at the Nationals going to
the eighth inning. Net's trying to end a five game
losing streak. The Orioles lead the Angels to nothing. In
(32:47):
the top of the ninth, Boston beat the Yankees in
ten innings two to one. Aaron Judge did hit his
twenty sixth homer that tied the game. Top of the ninth,
Tampa Bay held on to beat the Mets seven to five,
ending the Mets six game winning streak. Milwaukee headed Saint
Louis a six straight loss, three to two wins for
the A's and the Astros wins for Atlanta and Texas.
(33:08):
That Atlanta win was twelve four over Colorado. The Braves
were actually down four to one in the sixth. Colorado's
record now thirteen and fifty six.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
Happy Friday the thirteenth, Happy Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
The NBA Finals are now tied at two games apiece
the Thunder thanks to some.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Fortuitous officiating non calls on the SGA four on pushoffs,
loud Dort shoving Tyrese Heliburton out of the way for
a big steal.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
That one's still curious to me.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Man, the away from the ball fouls that are called
in the final minute, Boy Scott Foster.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
The extender extend, that's what extenders do. They want.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You don't bring an extender and to be surprised when
they're extending. Extenders extend. It's what they do, man, Extenders extend.
But I do want to say this because this is
also a big hard of the game and you got
to give credit where credits due. I said going into
game four, this is an SGA game. The thunder don't
win this game unless SGA has an MVP night, and
(35:11):
he did not have one for the vast majority of
the game. He had twenty one points on twenty shots.
Like that doesn't work, man, Like that you buried him.
He was having a base inspired him taken. Yes, I
am taking all kinds of credit for that, because the
last five minutes of this.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Game he was absolutely bananas. All right.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Now, Now it's not thirty five. He didn't get thirty five,
but that's okay, he didn't get forty.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I'm gonna take the w because he went.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
For thirty five and he scored I want to say
it was what fourteen points in the final six minutes in.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
The fifteen their final sixteen points.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
It was an incredible run. And let this is what
MVP players do. Man, this is the SGA. I am
not gonna let us lose game, right. J Williams was
terrific all game right, Chet Holmgren really came up big,
Alex Caruso off the bench, But the last five and
a half minutes this was SGA. Yes, he got some
he got some officiating non calls, got the yes, I
(36:12):
understand this, But this is where the MVP says, I'm
not gonna let us lose. When when everybody starts shaking
a little bit and things are getting a little weird
and a little serious, and you're you're staring at the
end of your season, this is where the MVP says,
it's my time. And he was the guy that won
the game, and I look, that's why I said, coming in, SGA,
does it not show up? But he had enough not
showing up in the last game. In the first three
(36:34):
and a half quarters of this game, it was like
Superman two when the whole world is going, Superman, where
are you?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Where we need your Superman? These three people have come
from Krypton.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
In general Zod is running things, and I mean the
old General Zod Terrence Stamp, not the new one Michael Shannon.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean we got to you got Superman. Where are you?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
The President's on TV Superman Like I'm saying the same thing, SGA,
where are you Man? You are ISO balling it and
you're you're you're not dishing, You're not getting anybody involved.
You no assist tonight dude, what is happening? And then
all of a sudden, Nope, give me the game. The
last five and a half minutes he couldn't miss. He
got to the free throw line. Everything he needed to
do he did. This is what MVPs do when he
(37:12):
came through that way.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Three of six in the fourth quarter from the field,
but eight of eight from the line, taking care of business.
He was plus sixteen during that time. Finishes with thirty
five points. Curious going through the addles of history of
teams to win a finals game with the fewest team
assists because they did not move the ball for anything,
(37:35):
trying to punctuate your statement of the ball stop or
that SGA was but when it mattered, came up big
fortuitous of the calls that got him to the line
during the regular season and all through these playoffs. In
the final minutes, there's some contact. He's getting the call
all right now or non call as it were on
(37:57):
the jumper that I think will be shown now billion times.
I think it's gonna end up looking like the one
with Jordan and Russell before it's all said and done,
that compar shortan that was Angel Reese. Yeah, I'm gonna
leave that one sit there. For sure, I'm gonna put
that there fastest to five hundred points and five hundred
rebounds in w NBA history, you know, just because I
(38:18):
know my w NBA history. But for for Sga, yeah,
a huge moment. And now we get the best of three,
absolute chaos.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I love him, man, I'll tell you that this was
absolutely Uh it's what you need to see. It's what
you want to see when you're the MVP. These are
the games you have to have it at least the
fourth quarter. And and knowing he was gonna take all
the shots and the Pacers still couldn't stop him, knowing
he's he's taking every shot, He's taking every shot, and
(38:48):
we can roll the coverages towards you, we can figure
things out. And again I'm not again, I'm not gonna
say that getting the pushoffs and not getting calf that helps.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
It really dates help.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I mean, it really does help when you can push
the other team and not get foul calls at that
really and when they push you you get the call.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
That really helps. But but this is I mean, look,
this was easy. This was easy to see.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Sga is gonna do it, and he is, and this
is why all teammates stand behind in interviews and they
yell MVP and they say incredible things about him, like
we talked about him. You want to look for a
face of the league being a shake Gilgess Alexander. You
see the way his teammates feel about him and what
they say, and how he takes over games at the end.
And it doesn't always need to be a great heroic shot.
(39:35):
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's but it's always the right
basketball play, which Lebron always says. The right basketball payer
iss be to pass out of that double team with
you know, one second left in the game. But he
always seems to make the right basketball play, and that's
really something. That's what he does better than almost anybody
else in the league right now is make those right plays.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
The curiosity though, is the number of makeable field goals,
because he finished with zero assists.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Now zero, When you score fourteen out and the last sixteen,
you don't need to pass, man.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Where were you the other three quarters? Man? We break
down more Game four next Fox
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