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Hi.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I know he's excited to talk about one guy.
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Well, I'm excited.
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I'm excited, but yeah, hopefully you go soon.
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And former New York Jets GM Joe Douglas. It's great
to be with you, Joe. I'm excited about your insight.
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Great to be here.
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Guys can't wait to talk draft and talk talk about
these players.
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Speaker 5 (02:12):
Look, we are a minute, well we're two minutes into
this thing, and Jay, I think we already have some
some news.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
You've been on your phone since I saw you.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
All right, So obviously cam Ward is going to go
one to the Tennessee Titans. But the Jacksonville Jaguars and
the Cleveland Browns have been discussing the deal for Jaguars
to move up and take Travis Hunter. I'm told even
Travis Hunter's camp even knows about it. And look something
like this. I know the Jaguars, they just want to
sit type and make sure nothing crazy happens in front
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of them and somebody doesn't move up suddenly take their guy.
But yeah, the parameters of this deal have already been
in place. They just want to make sure that cam
Ward goes one. And then that kind of throws a
lot of things, you know, up in the air there
if the Jaguars go up there. Well, when the Jaguars
go up to take Travis Hunter and the Browns go back,
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I think other teams are going to go, oh man,
could we start making a move. Also, there's a lot
of teams that I know, the Raiders who thought about it,
the Carolina Panthers, they're trying to get out of their pick.
I thought it was going to be a pretty tame
top ten, and now obviously it's not going to be.
This trade won't happen until after cam Waterer's taken.
Speaker 8 (03:18):
Somebody's volume and somebody's volume up. You know, I'm I'm
I'm excited to see what the conversation, what the narrative,
Uh surrounding surrounding what's going on with how they're going
to use Travis Hunzer And that's, you know, because I've heard,
of course it's a foregone conclusion he's going to be
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a cornerback.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
But how are they going to use I.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Don't know if it's a foregone colusion.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
Okay, because I was about to just that. It's seeming
as though there's more momental pig. I've heard comparisons to
Justin Jefferson. He has Justin Jefferson type talented receiver athlete.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Okay, I stopped kying how many times this guy can
make people miss on a simple hitch and just spin
out like he's got freaky route skill.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So so what does two way player look like? What
is that?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
If you said true two way? What is that a
full time receiver? Full time?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Do I have a quarterback? You got Trevor?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Do I have a If I've got a quarterback, I'm
gonna give him to the If I got a freaking quarterback,
I'm giving to my quarterback in his prime.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm rolling, Okay.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Like that guy's a difference, But you're using him a
corner also, I would maybe in Spurts Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'll never go a true two way.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
What Prime said to me, it was he said, if
you're wondering how often to play Travis Hunter, it's always
more like he doesn't tire. His work ethic is a
league of his own. There's no one like him. I
always been described as a unicorn, but he is.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
He is that special.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
I just I find it to be interesting and intriguing
true two way because I think high school when I
think true two way. Last time you're a true two
way is generally high school. Let's be clear on that, Like, oh,
you played, it's a line O line. You know, you
play tight end, you play defensive end, the linebacker, you know,
but that is very different at the pro level.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So it'd be interesting.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
After he won the Heisman, I called fifteen general managers,
head coaches and I use this un Fox Noble Sunday,
and the consensus was so much harder to get a cornerback.
So we'd start on a corner and we would use
him in packages at receiver. And now as the drafts come,
I think it's kind of fifty to fifty where that
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I had one guy say, dude, I like you said,
if you have a quarterback. I would roll with him
in my quarter So I said, what makes him so different?
They say, first of all, he is so ridiculously strong.
You don't not like weightlifting strong, but man, he's so strong.
Whether he's going up for the ball on offense or
he's going after your on defense. He likes to get dirty,
likes get after you. But he's one of these guys like, man,
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you kind of put your hands on him out there
on the field. You're like, what the hell was that?
I wasn't expecting that. He's different. He's different. And you know,
if one guy said to me the other night head coach,
he said, he would be the number He's the number
one guy on our board. He'd probably be the most
talented guy in the next ten drafts. Because we just
haven't seen a guy like this.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
Can I ask this question, and Joe you might have
the proper response. Why doesn't a guy who grades out
that high, like I said, I am Duel Carter, he
gets to the quarterback, he's a guy, special talent. Why
doesn't one of those guys? Why is that out ranked?
Why is that trumped by a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Why?
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Why does it we need a quarterback so We're going
to take a quarterback at one even if they don't
grade out that high.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
How does that work?
Speaker 7 (06:40):
You've seen that, You've seen that happen over the years.
I mean there's if a quarterback has a second round grade,
he's usually going in the first round. It's just a
quarterback lead. You have to have a quarterback to be
successful in the long term. So if you if you
think you have a guy that you can take and
have him on a team friendly contract for at least
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the first four years, and you think this guy can
be a starter and help you win games, yeah, team
teams are going to value that. But I definitely see
what you're saying.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
I mean, I just don't understand how you pass up
on that type of talent.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Let me ask you this, Joe, and we're sitting here
and again I'm told that this the parameters of this
trade have been in place, right and you know they
don't want to pull the pull it here until after
you see kim work. If you're sitting there as a
GM and you're the Browns, do you trust it's going
to happen? Is it getting you crazy? What's the anxiety
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of a gym when you have a trade, the parameters
of a trade done or something you want to happen,
but you gotta wait until somebody else is done with
the clock.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Yeah, the groundwork's been laid, so you feel good, but
you don't ever feel good about it until it's done,
Until until the trade is done, until you're calling the
league and saying, we've got this this, We've got a
team on the line we're trading with, you don't feel
good about it. And even though like we're talking about,
it's not a big trade that you're you're you're discussing
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about going from five to two and it'll be it's
it's nine hundred points.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I mean, it's a I'm told they'll be.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
For one next year also in a two this year.
Is kind of parameters when they pull this off. But
that that, I mean, that's a lot, you know, especially
when you're talking about, you know, the Jags who probably
have a top ten pick next year unless things dramatically change.
That's that's an awful lot.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Well, he is that special and we have so much
more to get to when it comes to Travis Hunter.
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This is what we've been waiting for. Tennessee Titans on
the clock, I think, you know real, yeah, tell me.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
They have, by the way, kind of drives me crazy,
which you know, the time goes, you know, I have ADHD.
You know who you're taking, Just take it. Let's not
go ten minutes. But the Titans told me it was
literally back at the combine, they already kne who they
were taking. And you know, I don't know if any
of these quarterbacks would be go a bumve any the
quarterbacks from last year, it probably wouldn't right. And you
could talk more about that, Joe, But they've known about
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They started telling teams that teams were calling the Browns
and the Giants were calling them, and they told pretty
much anybody was calling them the Titans. I was told
a week or two ago like just we're not, we're not.
But they said, we made our mind up all the
way back at the combine, like this was our guy,
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that's our quarterback. We're rolling with it, and they were
all in back then what.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
About cam Ward impresses you, Joe, And do you think
this is the right pick for them?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Look he's my number one quarterback. So what Jay said earlier,
I we felt pretty good last year the with Caleb,
with Jaden, with Drake. I I don't think that cam
is at the top of that group from last year.
I think he's a great quarterback. I think, I mean,
especially like starting from where he started on a non
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ranked no star started Incarnate Word, worked his way up
there Washington State at the U. I mean, he's earned it.
He's earned every bit of this. This this number one pick, hopefully.
But I love to watch him. He is the ultimate
sandlot player. He is fun to watch. His improvisation skills
I think are top notch. He's he when he's moving,
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and he's moving a lot. His eyes are always down
the field, like he's always he's always got great field
vision and so he's he's always looking for his open
receiver and he can he can whip that ball out
quick and find his guy.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
And when you need a quarterback, you tend to look
at things that in a different life. So when I
asked one, obviously ask around Puck, Jorge, every team, and
you possibly count about all these guys. But something's out
to me. One head coach said, if you love him,
you're gonna say to yourself, man, he is so calm
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in that pocket. If you don't like him, you're gonna say,
he's way too nonchalant in that pocket. So it's incredible, right,
the subjectivity you guys have.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I totally agree with that. There's a tie in my report.
I'm like, and really for the for the top two quarterbacks,
I wrote, they're almost two poised. They're almost two poised,
and that's not a bad thing. I mean, you want
your quarterback to be poised and call him in the
pocket with all those bullets flying around him. So that's
interesting that you say that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Well, right now, Tennessee on the Clock, Jay said it
all right, get to the point. If you know what
you're doing, let's get to it. We're gonna take a
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Speaker 6 (12:00):
Welcome back.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Already an exciting night for us. Appreciate you guys joining us.
We got a lot to get to guys. The first
pick is in for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Let's take a lessen.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
With the first pick. The Tennessee Titans select cam Ward
quarterback Miami six to two hundred and nineteen pounds.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Andam Warden as expected, guys, and I know I want
to give you. I want to give him enough time
to react. It's a big deal. But we do have
the first trade of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
and it is a blockbuster.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Jay, you had this information earlier tonight.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yep. Absolutely, the Jacksonville Jaguars have moved up with the
Cleveland Browns. And I'm actually told the parameters of this
deal were worked out weeks ago. This is not something
that just happened. The problem is is that, you know,
the the Browns. I think we're nervous of why is
this not happening? The Jaguars were nervous. It's something what
crazy would happen in front of them? As I said
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the show, that suddenly the Titans relented and traded away
and traded away the Uh no, we are it's second
and fourth. There we go and traded away cam Moore.
They just wanted them make sure so before they pull
the trigger. But I was told this has been in
place for a while. Just want to make sure it happened, Jenny, You,
I think, have the details of what it was for.
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I was told it was for the Browns were getting
next year. Is one A two obviously the fifth overall
pick here, but it was also a fourth rounder in
this year's draft as well, going to.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
The mar Yeah, this is the official Browns trading the
number two overall pick, a fourth round pick number one
oh four, and a sixth round pick number two hundred.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Two of the Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Jaguars are trading the number five overall pick, a second
round pick number thirty six, a fourth round pick number
one twenty six, and their twenty twenty six first round
pick to the brown So.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Obviously a lot there. Jay had it Guys, your reaction
to this.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Move, well, I mean it sounds like to me and
the Jaguars are going to take Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Travis Hunter's people.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Are you know?
Speaker 8 (14:01):
It seems like an indication that the Cleveland Browns are
admitting that they're trying to rebuild their their roster and
they're going to.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Try to do it through the draft. That's what it
comes down to to me.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I just looking at the stat of the picks exchange,
the fact that this is a pick flop of second
round picks instead of a hard second that that's a
that's a win for me, for the for the Jaguars.
But again, you know, they they they obviously had their
sights set on Travis and they think this is the
guy that can help help their offense get over the top.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
I'm just still blown away by the fact that you
could pass up on guys if they're so generational and
their talent level is so high. It just blows me away.
I mean, I was in the draft with with Chad Pennington.
There was some some pretty pretty good players in that
two thousand draft, and you know, we wouldn't dare hear
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of this something like this taking place where one of
those guys would be actually selected before one of us.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It didn't seem to make any sense to me.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
But if they feel good about cam Ward, and listen,
cam Ward is a player, he makes plays I mean,
obviously there were a lot of times this year for
Miami where cam Ward needed to step up and the
Miami team needed to step up and come together and
try to win the games that they were in, and
you were able to see him deal with the adverse
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situations being out there on the field. So he shows
to head, Like you guys mentioned the poise of what
he needs to have at the next level. I'm just
curious to you know, is he good enough? Will he
be able to suit that number one draft pick billing?
That's my deal.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Yeah, Look, his release is unbelievable. I mean, just going
through his critical factors and position specifics, He's got the release,
he's got the accuracy, he can drive the ball. I mean,
when I look at him from a scouting perspective, what
I can nitpick a little bit. He doesn't get the
ball out on time very often, and so that's why
he's usually drift in move in creating extra time. So
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building the right offense around him the r po ss
I think.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Here because he is very mobile, He is a very.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Mobive and his improvisation skills are our major strength, like
we talked about earlier.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So again the Jacksonville Jaguars is gonna go here. And
I know people are saying, well, where should or Sanders go?
It's the Giants. I don't have the Giants go in
that direction. I do have them ticking your guy, Abdul Carter,
you know, who was generally regarded as the top pass
rusher in this draft. But again, just to go back
to something like this, you kind of look at it
and Joe, you were no better your first time GM.
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That's a lot to give up in your first draft,
to not have a top ten pick next year, to
not have a second round pick this year, just kind
of give me your your ticket. I mean you could
sit there going, man, this guy has some cahones.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
What are you doing? Yeah, it's a bold move.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I mean, look, it's out the gate for him to
do that. I mean, if this is the guy that
you think is going to turn the franchise around, help
help be that that dude, then yeah, go go do it.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
So wouldn't this be a move of a team that
thinks they're a player away, not a bunch of holes away?
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Yes it would, right, it would. But they obviously feel
good about some of the offensive pieces they have. They
feel they feel like They've got the quarterback in Trevor.
Let's go. Let's go get them a dude who knows
what their plan is if they are going to play
in both ways. But like we talked about earlier, this
is a team that has a quarterback. So give this
guy to the quarterback in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
And Jay, you mentioned that Travis's team knew about this.
How did they feel? What was their reaction?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
They would just I didn't have oneyther. I mean, like
no state tax. It's a state tax.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
So but they weren't disappointed. They weren't disappointed. It's such
a waste of a they were not disappointed. I'm sorry
Travis Hunter going to Jacksonville, that market, I mean, it
would be great for Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
But man, yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The pick is.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
In for the Jaguars. We're gonna wait on that.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
He's not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
With the second pick, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Travis Hunter, cornerback,
wide receiver, Colorado, six foot one and eighty eight pounds.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Duval Bar has been waiting for that. Just the joy.
It makes me so excited for the most moments.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I don't know if you, I'm sure you know at
the owners meeting this year. Every year, Mike, toml and
I threw a day drinking day. You saw it on
on Instagram and we all try to get Liam Combe
to do the duval. He was so scarred he squeaked
out an even worse one. Oh no, yeah, twenty six
head coaches there and was like, come on, leem, you
gotta gopher it just got to own it already. He
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was scarred.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
That was all over social media. Do you really want?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He had a lot of pressure from a lot of
pressure on him. We were killed him.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
He's going to bring He's gonna shed Travis Hunter is
going to shed a ton of light on the market.
I mean it's an electrifying player. He's an electric fine personality,
loves the game, loves the sport. I'm excited to see it.
I would have liked to say seen them go to
a bigger market team though. Well.
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Speaker 4 (19:40):
Hey there, give me the move. The player you thought
you were you were getting and all of a sudden,
man slipped out of your hands.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Okay, yeah, here we don't know. Here's one that probably
most people don't know about. So two years ago we
just we had just made the trade for Aaron, Aaron Rodgers.
I don't know if you've heard of him, but yeah,
we just traded for Aaron. So in the in that trade,
we fought picks.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
With Green Bay.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
We went from thirteen to fifteen, and so we were
absolutely dead set and I was prepared to take the
heat at time, but we were dead set on Jamier Gibbs.
We were taking m Yeah, we were taking Jamier Gibbs
just because we were gonna go. Let's let's just load
up on weapons.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Man.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Let's like, this guy is not just a running back
as you as everyone sees now, He's not just a runner.
This guy is a weapon out of the backfield in
pass game. So we we were one hundred percent. We
didn't think anyone was going to take him, probably until
the twenties and then Detroit Detroit made a trade with Arizona.
I believe Arizona came up to get Paris Johnson to
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tackle from Ohio State, and they moved back and they
took him three picks before before we were set to
set to grab him. But again, that's why you go
through all the strategy meetings. That's why you go through
all the all the all the with the coaches and
scouts and make sure you're prepared for any scenario.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And we were.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
We Gibbs, Yeah, I was supposed to be the inside.
I didn't know that one.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well after Joe's young guy who never told me anything
going in really didn't he didn't.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, look I came up like you protect this stuff,
you keep it under lock and key. But after being
with Jail afternoon and just seeing all the information that
he gets, and uh, yeah, I was pretty much an
idiot for not calling years because you would have been like, hey, man,
if you really want this guy to go over there,
right Joe, Joe have to.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Sit there with me all day today and you were
kind of shocked at like, my guys don't lie.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
To me, No, they do not. Obviously.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
It's a really interesting dynamic watching Jay Glazer in action. Guys,
the New York Giants on the clock, and.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
They've been locked in a dual Carter and I know
they love him and trafficks on. They had him both
together at the top of their draft board, but they
thought the trafvers would go as well. Giants were trying
to trade all the way up there for cam Ward.
That wouldn't happen. But Abdul Carter has been their guy,
and that's your guy, that is my guy. And then listen.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
They run a three four style defense, so it'll be
interesting to see how they use him because you can
use him at the defensive tackles position in this defense,
which is almost like a six technique almost sort of
kind of type of defensive end. Or you can use
them as a stand up outside back or a sam
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or you know, on on either side of the defense
and you can move them off. You can play them
on the inside as well within that three four defense.
So we talk about the versatility of what Jacksonville just
received in getting Travis Hunter, but Abdul Carter's versatility it
shines through as well. You can see them in pass coverages.
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He can cover thirty forty yards downfield, so if it's
New York taking him at this pick, they're getting a
generational talent and a dual card.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
And I was told also a couple of things from
inside the Giant's one because they have Thibodeau, they have
Brian Burns. They're like, hey, when we won to shoot bowl,
Strand Strand justin tuck Oc human like we had pass
rushers one just two right. But the other thing, one
of the guys in there said to me, he's listened
at six to two. They're like, he's not six two. No,
he's way like.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
They're like, we don't know where six two came from. No,
List six three, he's six threes. He's all of a
good good two forty five, two fifteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, Hm, there he is. Stick City, baby, it's a place. Well.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You're listening to Draft Night Live on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm here with Head of Ville insider Jay Glazer, college
Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington, former GM Joe Douglas.
I'm Jenny Taft, and we are ready to hear the
picks in for the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
With the third pick, the New York Giants select ab
Juwel Carter Edge Penn State six three, two hundred and
fifty pounds LeVar.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I like the look how about this from Yeah, he's
he's got a nice little stylish thing going there. He's
got the incredible chain on that the he uses the
ones and the incredible. But you know, just to talk
about you can't speak enough about the maturity level that
he carries with himself. Very workmanlike, very professional for for
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quite some time. I'd like to believe the influences that
we've had on him have played a major part in
him understanding how he needs to approach his work and
and the value, constantly building and learning the value. So
it's a great pick for them. He's a no nonsense
type of guy and and he will bring uh, as
I mentioned, he'll bring a ton of value to to
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the table.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So uh, I'm excited for him.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
And yes, this is the perfect market for a big
time player to go into and and have some some success.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I brought up straight and that's first call he should make,
by the way, when he gets there. Michael work work
with all these guys. But you know, obviously, because where
he's from and in his position, he's compared a lot
to Michael, Where's he where's he like Michael? Where is
he not like Micah?
Speaker 8 (25:07):
Michael person, I would say, and looking at the comparison
of of what they are, Micah is probably a more
explosive player. Uh, maybe a little bit better and and
uh open space. But Abdul Carter and and and me
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and Joe were talking about it. His his bend, his
his ability to slingshot off of the edge and and
still maintain his quickness, still maintain his strength. Uh, I
think he's pretty pretty second to none with his ability
to get off of the ball and turn that corner
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and turn that edge. I think as he continues to
learn at the pro level, and again this is his
first year playing true defensive end, so well, as he
gets more and more reps playing as a defensive end,
I think we'll see more development of what his signature
tools will represent and what they will be. And uh,
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I think that will play a major part in him
being able to have success because this is a as
we know, a super pass heavy league now, and you
gotta have a guy that can get to the quarterback.
And it's not looking at these defensive ends, these edges
as we now call.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Them, the same way anymore. You don't see the.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Six foot six, six foot five, two hundred and fifty
eighty sixty seventy pounders that can set edges but also
can kind of pass rush a little bit. You want
speed guys these days. So the comparisons are probably more
similar with Micah and Abdul than I would say looking
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at the differences between them.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, Var, I love this guy.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
So this was my number one player, number one in
the entire draft, so he won a Travis onebe I
love them both. Like this guy wears wears eleven and
wears it well he does. He wears it well, He's
earned it. But what stood out about him, Jenny, Like,
honestly I said in my report, like this guy he's
gonna go whatever defense he goes. He's he's gonna be
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the most athletic D lineman, most athletic linebacker, probably most
athletic safety.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
He's just a farreak athlete.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
And like we talked about, I mean, this guy has
explosive get off. He turns the corner at the top
of a pocket like an F one race car.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He is all gas now.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
He is fast, and like Lvar said, the versatility, there's
a play in the Wisconsin game. He drops in coverage,
he looks like an all Pro linebacker. He hits the
Wisconsin slot like Ray Lewis, I mean, just dislodges the
guy from the ball. I mean, this guy he can
play almost anywhere on your defense. I think he unlocks
a lot of creativity for defensive coordinators. You can line
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him up almost anywhere. He can be kind of that
X rover around the line of scrimmage and blitz package.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That he was an X back of the man.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
And I remember sitting with him too, and he just
has this quiet confidence to the way he carries himself.
But his teammates rave about his work ethic and I
know we touched on that, but it came up from players,
from coaches and just how much he actually studied Micah
as well. So he was planning for this moment. But
just such a leader, and you know, he blew me
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away in person and on the field, and I'm excited
to see what he does.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
By the way, I'm taking calls now from other teams
there now that the first trade happens, it's almost like
a Okay, let's keep up with the Joneses, and other
teams are trying to move up. I've had teams the
Carolina Panthers they're trying to get out of that. The
Raiders would would consider it. So I know teams are
trying to move and there's only it's an interesting draft.
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And Joe and I talked about it. I got a
lot of teams who have seven guys raided in the
first round, some have eleven. A lot have like thirteen
or fourteen. You don't have an awful lot. So if
you have a conviction, So my phone is blown up
about people who are trying to now think about if
they want to jump up, if they want to move up,
that the Patriots are up next. And then the whole
entire time we thought offensive linemen. And they went out
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and saw, you know, the LSU lineman who again usually
you have like you know, a few blue chip tackles
can't miss, and you don't really have it. You had
here Will Campbell from LSU. And then everybody like to
talk about his arm length not being long enough, which
is the dumbest thing I could ever hear from, you know,
having one inch, you know, arms being shorter, and you
could talk about that for a guy who you know,
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shut people down for years and years and years, but
you don't have a million corners like you usually do.
You don't have a bunch of receivers like you usually do,
you don't have all these offensive linemen. They're like, man,
we got to go up and get one of these linehere.
We're going to make sure we have one of the
top five, because there's one and the Patriot's going to
take them, and then there's just a big group and
nobody's convicted on what that group is.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
It's a great point because this this draft has depth.
It has depth of running back, it has a depth
to tight end. But years past the depth was that
really premium positions quarterback, pass rusher, offensive tackle, corner, you know,
and it's just not as deep. I feel like the
top tackle in this draft would have a tough time
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cracking the top five and last year's draft, you know,
So what what Jay says is right. And for me,
in terms of numbers of players graded in the first round,
I probably had eleven.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
By the way, I just want to get on this.
So the Patriots are gonna end up taking you know,
Will Campbell, and then the Browns are sitting there and
you know, you have that running back and Gent you have.
You know, we thought Genty was gonna go, but I
was told by sources when they got the trade done,
I said, so you're gonna go, Gent, He says, no, Actually,
we like Mason Graham defensive tackle, which you know, I
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thought at one point he could drop out of top ten.
And you know, Mason Graham is a guy that had
put him up there with obviously with Miles Garrett to
do something the defensive side of the ball. But that's
who I'm told the Browns want to do, which would
be a big shock also, which could push people down
the road a little bit of who the top players were,
if you say, because there wasn't this big consensus of
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and you and I talked about Mason Graham a lot.
I talked to Wing Martinelle's defense coordinator today, who's like,
I want him to go out there and work your
MMA program with you. I think he needs a wrestler.
He kind of needs your your guys crazy a little bit.
But man, that's again, in these mocks, we didn't have
Mason Graham going top five anywhere, and now he'll end
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up going top five if what my guy tells me
and the Browns is accurate, which I think it is.
I think you'll have Campbell here and Mason Graham after that.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Mason Graham is pretty athletic defensive tackle anytime you look
at what you got in Fisk last year.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, they're both wrestlers, right.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
You're looking at leverage guys. Good good to get to
their gaps too, gappers. I think it's a I think
it's a safe pick to get an interior guy that
can play the way that he's played and the brand
of football at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Look, I mean we talked about the first pick. Ca
Cam Moore doesn't isn't exactly built like Cam Newton. Mason
Graham isn't really gonna run, reminding everyone of Albert Hainsworth.
But throw on the tape. This dude is a hell
of a football player. Great feet, he moves like a
linebacker's super active, and uh picks it in.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Pick is in for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
With the fourth pick, the New England Patriots select Will Campbell,
offensive tackle lsu six foot six, three hundred nineteen pounds.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
But yeah, like like I was saying about Mason, like
just watch the tape. He's all over the tape making plays, shooting, gaps,
getting in the backfield, making big plays in big moments
like he's a big game hunter when when when your
best is required, he plays at his best. So the
tape doesn't lie on Mason.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And Will Campbell does have short arms. I mean his
arms are not long, and I will.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Say inch like I got to stop he chess.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
I mean that's that's that's a difficult I would not
be surprised if he ended up making a move to
to guard in the league. I would not be surprised
by that, because it may be taking a guard for
it may be very I understand that. I know they're
projecting him to be a tackle. I get it, but
it may be a difficult proposition to have a short
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arm tackle.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I agree. It's all I say. I agree with you both.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
I agree with you both because all right, I just
want to say, you obviously did not take Will Campbell
to be a guard.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But I agree with LeVar.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
I think his best position may be along with the
interior because of the arm length. And I specifically say
that because of the Super Bowl when you saw Joe
Thuney have to play out a position at left tackle.
Teams with length are looking to expose that, but this
is a great.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Enough arm length discussion.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
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Speaker 6 (34:55):
Guys, the Browns pick is in.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
With the fifth pick, the Cleveland brown select Mason Graham,
defensive tackle Michigan, six three and a half two hundred
and ninety six pounds.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
They had it.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Talking about masson gram and again, you know I talked
to this defensive coordinator with Martinelle today said man, love him,
you'd love him. You know he has look for wrestler.
You understand the human body better than most, but a
lot of teams took him off or moving dound because
his body was doe, which is actually a lot of
heavyweight wrestlers. But man, obviously there's a lot of love
for me. But I just want to tell you what's
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going on after that. So the Raiders, man, they're sitting
there going even if fashion Genty's there, they're gonna possibly
think about trading down. They're talking about offensive tackle and
they're gonna talk about Genty. I know when it comes
down to it, they don't trade the pick, they're gonna
end up going Genty. And the Jets they were looking
between Ty Warren and offensive lineman. I know they were
having conversations back and forth between those two, and the
offensive lineman was Membu, who is pretty much I think
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the second back on most teams boards as well. I
think that's where the Jets end up going. In eight.
The Carolina Panthers, they are trying to get out of
that pick right now. They've been calling around all day long.
Other teams are talking to them as well, so just
you know, trying to add a little bit subterfuge here,
uh in this draft the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Wasting no time, the pick is in.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
With a sixth pick the Las Vegas Raiders. Ashton Johnty,
running back Boise State, five eight and a half, two
hundred eleven pounds.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Ashton guys, I like to pick.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Loved it love if it's me.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
I know everybody wants to look at the running backs
position as not as valuable as it once was, and
maybe so, but Ashton genty and his ability to run
the ball, he reminds me in my estimation. I look
at him. He has different different bits and pieces of games.
He has some EMMITTT. Smith in them with with his
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his movement and his balance. But he does give me.
He does give me like a little bit of Like
I'm thinking of the running back that play for the
Carolina Panthers had the dreadlocks. I'm the Angela Williams, the
Angelo Williams. Yeah, he gives me a little di'angelo Williams.
I like him. I know a lot of people have
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compared him in his numbers to Barry Sanders, like like statistics,
but I think he's a game changer and I think
he's a day one impact player games.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
And you know what I think, Look Saquan kind of showed, hey,
let's put that running back position back up where it
should be. And if you have a great running back,
I know you need a good line. Saquon would have
done with the Giants this year what he did with
the Eagles. But if you have somebody like that, man,
it makes life so much easier for everybody else. And
this guy, there was two guys that everybody said the
cleanest guys in this draft, and it was it was
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pretty unanonymous. We're Travis Hunter and Ashton Genty. Both of
them just get it. Also, he really gets it, and
you're gonna get a dynamic guy. I've known so many
Boise also for the last couple of years. He's like,
you would love this kid, Army Bratt. You just love
what he's about, love his makeup. So you know, and
think about this. Chip Kelly is the offensive coordinator now
with the Raiders, right, So you get a guy over there,
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you have Gino Smith, I's a your quarterback. But think
of things that and look, ash and I think didn't
do a lot of pass catching at Poise because they
want to get in the record, So you're not going
to throw the ball off a lot right to a
guy that you're trying to get the running back record for.
But I think him and Chip Kelly that's going to
be pretty magical.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
It's a great point about Chip Kelly. Hadn't thought of
it that way, Joe. Do you believe that the value
of the running back has really shifted back to that
high priority?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Well?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
I think Jay mentioned it in the year that Saquan
had How can you change to the importance of a
running back especially? I feel like this is as good
of a running back class as we've seen here. Here
we see Emma Smith's tape that LeVar just compared him to.
But this is as good of a running back class
as there's.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Been in a while.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
And ash and genty make no mistake, five foot eight
and a half. But he is a power running back.
He runs with mentality like I have not graded a
five eight power back a power back this short since
Frank Gore coming out of Miami, but not the same
run style because you know, Frank ran low, low to
the ground. Ashton runs upright, you know, so he's almost
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got a style of like I described it as a
as a micro Marshan or a half pint Henry like
he's got that upright run style, but he's got gray feet.
His lower strength and contact balance is elite, and he's
got a fish finishing kick to score from anywhere on
the field. So he is a special running back real quick.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
So we're talking about him. But the Jets are up.
How you obviously that this would have been your draft,
this was your guy? Do you disassociate yourself? Do you
sit up here and go, oh man, do you sit
up here and watch as a fan? Because you still
got people in that building? What what else?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
You still you still root for a lot of people
in that building, You really do, and you know it'd
be interested to see what they do here.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
But h I think they end up going to the offensive limon.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Yeah, Look, I mean, if they do decide to go
offensive lineman, if you think it's Membo, who's obviously you're
you're not projecting Membo at all. He's the right tackle
at Missouri and he's gonna most likely play right tackle.
Your offensive line's done. Like You've got five good young
players for the foreseeable future. And look when when ag
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was at Detroit, right, they had an unbelievable offensive line, right,
you know, and a lot of it was put together.
And to add a guy like a Membo, if they
choose to go to that direction, your offensive line is
complete and it's a good group.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Well here's what I know. I know they had ty
Warren up there, They had Membo up there. They even
had h Walker from Georgia the DN. So those are
the guys that kind of had lumped in and they
were talking about it all day today like it wasn't
they didn't have this. Oh man, we know we want
member for weeks and weeks and weeks. You know, they're
still kind of going back on it. Tyler Warren game
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changer day one.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Jaylen Walker could be the still of the draft and
you heard me say it here a war It could
be the steal of the draft if they were to
take him.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
And you know Caroline who right now is taking calls
and they've been trying to trade out. They had guys
like Jayleen Walker up there, they had Walter Nolan, they
have a receiver Ted McMillan. They're kind of all out,
but they're trying to get themselves out of this pick.
And like I said, I know that they are in
talks as we speak with other teams.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
One thing for sure, guys, asked an Genty left his
mark on that blue turf. He plans to do it
in the NFL as well. We do have to take
a quick break. Draft Night Live on Fox Sports Radio
continues next. I'm enjoying this, Jay Glazer, the insider, he
knows all. Former GM Joe Douglas College Football Hall of
(41:47):
Famer LeVar Arrington. This is where all the action happens.
The New York Jets pick is coming up. After the break.
Surprised so far, I'm.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
All right, I'm here too, and I love these I
love these athletes. I get emotional. So much more to come.
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Welcome back to Draft Night Live on Fox Sports Radio. Jenny,
j Joe, LeVar, Guys, A lot can happen when we're
away on break.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
The pick is in for the Jets. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
With the seventh pick, the New York Jets select armand Membo,
offensive tackle Missouri six for thirty two pounds.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Back to Jay Ye, this is the Jets again. They
had a couple guys that were looking at They were
looking at Ty Warren Tied from Penn State. They were
looking at Walker, the linebacker from Georgia and they were
looking this offensive lineman Armond Membo as well. And again,
you know when you talk about these offensive line, this
is pretty much the order most teams had it. But
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where Hey man, these guys are bona fide top ten.
So again, the Jets are doing something you've had an
issue with for a long time. There an offensive line,
and then Carolina Panthers are doing the same thing. They
had a couple of guys that Tep McMillan, the wide
receiver from Arizona. They had Jalen Walker also, they had
Walter Nolan in that mix, and they're kind of going
back and forth. They were trying to get out. I
had a team saying we tried to trade up with them.
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We thought we're gonna be able to but all of
a sudden they were able to make a change there
and say, man, we're convicting the guy. I think that
ends up being Tip McMillan. But again, what do you
think about the Jets getting Membo trying to do something
you try to do for a long time, is shut
up that offensive line?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, it's short up now.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
Like we talked about earlier, I think this is a
good pick for the Jets, and look, the right tackle
is solidified. You got left tackle, which was solified last
year with Olu Forshanu. You got the right, You got
the center, Joe Chipman, you got the right guarden Vera
Tucker Johnsonson's the left guard. You've got your It's a
solid wall. It's a strong wall up front for the offense.
So I think it's a it's a great pick, and
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I think it's a mentality pick Membo. I think Membo
has the most upside of any tackle in the draft.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Really well.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Yeah, I think he's got elite feet. I think he
can bend, and I think he's got elite length too.
So I think he can do a lot of different things.
If you want to run power, he can run power.
If you want to run zone, he can get up
to second levels and block.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
He came back from big injury to it.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
We're surprised. Yeah, But he's he's a competitor. He hasn't
he hasn't played a ton of football. He's a young
guy too, so but he's a good player and he
went up a went up against a ton of great
competition in the SEC. So I do think this is
a really good pick. First pick for Ajamugie.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
We're gonna move on, guys, because the pick is in
for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
With the eighth pick, the Carolina Panthers select ted tight
Rolla McMillan, wide receiver, Arasilona, six foot four, two hundred
and nineteen pounds PETAROA.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
McMillan.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I was around Arizona bit this year. He is the
most hum full star you will come across. That's how
his teammates describe him. His size, his playmaking ability. He
was really special up close.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
You know he is a special player. And listen he's
he's I want to say Polynesian background.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
I don't. I want to.
Speaker 8 (45:16):
I want to mess it up. It could be tonguing,
but I'm pretty certain as Polynesian, pretty I mean, super
super family oriented guy. So when you talk about that
humility and and what he brings to the to the table,
he has been one of the most special wide receivers
playing the game. I think as special as as anyone
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coming out in that. I had him might on my
number one board. Interesting fact, him and Mason Graham actually
went to the same high school as Servite High here
out in California. So you got two top draft picks
from one high school going in this one. But Tataroa,
I think he's one of those type of guys. I
hate to do it because it seems like, you know,
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kind of you know, you can you know, telegraph this one.
But we look at Whoka nakoul I call him Whoka,
you call him Puka nakula uh. But he brings that
type of element and then some. His athletic ability was
a volleyball player, is vertical. Is is out of the
out of this world, special talent, special player in Tetsuo McMillan.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
And by the way, you know the for a guy
like him. Sorry, I'm getting a text over here.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Also, guys, wow, I don't know how James multitasks.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
I like him because now the Saints are on the clock,
and everybody thought it'd be Mickel Williams, and people were
actually trying to move up from Mikeel Williams, and I
was always told that it was offensive or defensive lineman.
So I think they can go Mickel Williams, I can
go Kelvin Banks, the offensive tackle for Texas. But go
back there to tet He was the number one receiver
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on this board. Besides Travis sent hutter by far like
it wasn't close and just the balls because he has
the catch radius. How much he goes up for these things,
the things you were able to do for it. I
had a team all the way down in the twenties
who is considering moving up into the top ten for him,
which is how much he was well liked. But again,
there's not you don't have this isn't that Jefferson and Jefferson,
jeff you don't have five receivers. You're like, man, these
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receivers are all there. I got to get him. There's
really one top ten receiver this draftwards him.
Speaker 7 (47:22):
Yeah, yeah, I felt like last year that you had
those top three right and Harrison and Neighbors and Roman Noonsay,
but you're right. Touches a big man, huge catch radios,
really smooth mover for a guy that big, he's really
smooth and athletic in his routes. You know, he doesn't
create elite separation, but he creates separation with his body.
He can go up and get those fifty to fifty
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balls and he's going to be a big weapon in
the red zone.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
For so again, let's me just get back here a
little bit here, So I said the Saints for kind
of wallacard by the way, people thought, okay, should or
Sanders a quarterback? Whatever. I still think there's a chance
the leader I'm going to go to get a quarter
I think it would be Jackson Dart who they would
if they decided to go do that. But there were
teams that were convinced. Everybody's convinced that they're going Mickel
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Williams here, and there were teams that loved them, right,
So then you sit there and go, all right, who's
after that? The Saints where again, I don't think they
go that, right. I think they go to the offensive
lineman here instead in Banks. Because then again we talked
about that drop off here right of what those offensive
tackles are. So this was again the Saints and yeah,
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I'm being told it's going to be Banks. That was
a great smokescreen on their end, where everybody thought, first
che Do or Sanders, everybody's convinced there. Then everybody who's
convinced there that it was going to be you know,
Michael Williams, and man, they ended up they're gonna end
up going the other way and go getting the Offensive Lineman.
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now that seems to be on your mind considering, Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Am on the phone. The Bears were we after the
Saints would go to the Bears, right correct? Yeah, So, man,
the Bears were an interesting situation. Uh, They've got a
couple guys there that I know. They love offensive Line.
They didn't like Membo, they like Banks, they like the
d N Mikil Williams. Actually, they like Starks, who's a
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safety from Georgia. They have him up there. He's another
one of those guys like Jalen Walker. Like, man, what
a do ward out of a guy like this is?
But I think you they're gonna sit here and go, Okay,
we didn't think all these guys would be here. So
they're still going back and forth on what they want
to do as well. There was all these things that
they're gonna try to trade up. For Gent never the case.
I was never the case. The Bears were never trying
to trade up for an Ashton genty or. I think
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there was something also for receiver that wasn't the case. Also,
So they're pretty good where they were sitting at ten.
But again, a lot's going to ride on the Saints here,
and I think the Saints do go offensively. I was
told they go offensive line.
Speaker 7 (50:08):
Yeah, the early the early trade kind of shook things
up from the earlier conversations you were having because everyone
thought that that that Gent was going to go earlier
to the Jacksonville and you know, now no one thought
that Mason Graham was going to go. So there's players
falling exactly right, right. Yeah, teams didn't think they were
going to be able to access.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
It's fascinating how it all works. I think that's why
we all love it. The drama, the excitement. The pick
is in for the Saints.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
With the ninth pick, the New Orleans Saints select Calvin Banks,
junior offensive tackle, Texas six, five three and fifteen pounds.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
Calvin Banks, Junior out of Texas. V are your reaction
to this one?
Speaker 8 (50:53):
I mean it's a safe pick if you ask me,
I mean they need protection. I'm I'm super curious knowing
that the shoulder injury that is surfaced with Carr, you know,
some of the aging elements that you have on the
defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Wait right, real quick, I'm just talking. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Yes, sir,
I'm getting here. You know, I'm talking talking about the Bears, right,
And I said, man, they got mickkil Williams and Malachai
Starks also, they were in for a tight end as well,
and I think they're gonna look, they're gonna take time. No,
I think they're gonna go Loveland over time. I know,
yeh over Ty Warren. But again it's still kind of
going on in that in that worm a little bit.
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But no, I think they end up going Colston Loveland.
Just and talking to them, they thought one of those
two tight ends will be off the board there. But
again they didn't know how this draft war would go
as well. So I think they end up going Loveland.
Speaker 6 (51:44):
Let's let's compare it, because the forty.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Nine er will end up taking mickil Williams was the guy,
but they loved that they were trying to trade up
for the first place.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
You're close with Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
Obviously you've seen Colston Loveland up close to Why Tyler
over Colston in your opinion?
Speaker 8 (51:57):
I just think more dynamic, you know. I think he's
a more dynamic and his ability to be able to
do more.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Things than just catch the ball. Right.
Speaker 8 (52:06):
He can run routes very well, but you can use
him in so many different ways. He is a good blocker,
He's a sound blocker. He's also able. I mean, he
understands the game so well. You can split him out,
you know, you can put on mid range, mid range routes,
you can put him in deep routes. There are a
lot of things that Tyler Warren is very very, very
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very gifted at. But he also is a hard worker
and how he's developed his game.
Speaker 6 (52:35):
How did you grade these two, Joe?
Speaker 7 (52:38):
Yeah, look, I think it's whatever flavor you want. I
feel like Tyler Warren to me is a three down
tight end. He is a true why he can line
at the end of the line of scrimmage and give
you a lot of value in the run game. And
then I think a real credit to Penn State and
their offensive coaching staff for how they utilized him and
unlocked all this creativity for him being a former high
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school quarterback, using him as a wildcat, splitting him out
a wide receiver, finding many different ways to get him
the football. He's a weapon in the past game too,
And I think with Colston, Colston is more of your
f tight end. Colston is an elite route runner.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
He moves like a.
Speaker 7 (53:15):
Wide receiver like he he runs rout like there's time
that I think I'm looking at a wide receiver out there,
Adam Thielen out there running routes. He's just he knows
how to get open. He's a major weapon in the
pass game. But to me, Tyler really gives you. And
I think Colston's a competitor at the line of scrimmage
as well. But I think Tyler is a true why
which a lot of offenses are looking for.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
It's crazy you say that, because I asked Shoan Moore
just today. He said Colston is a wide receiver and
a tight ends body and just the way he's progressed
throughout his years at Michigan, He's only just starting.
Speaker 4 (53:46):
And the one thing also, he had terrible quarterback player
over there, right, so you have to look and go.
He didn't have a quarterback and point again. When we
talked to Wake Martindale today, he was like, oh man,
I love this kid. He is really going to blot
him on that next level. He still has room to
grow in his body. I think that'll be a really
good pick there for the Bears.
Speaker 6 (54:02):
Colston Loveland from small town Gooding, Idaho. He was overlooked
and under.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Recruited, obviously at a very successful career at Michigan. Can't
say enough about him. And you know, it's a big
debate here. I know Levars Tyler Warren.
Speaker 8 (54:15):
But talent no, I'm okay with Loveland. Again, It's a
it's a receiving league. Even at the tight ends position.
It has continued to evolve. You see what you're they're
doing with Kittle, You see what they're doing with Kelsey
and and and a host of other names that go
along with those names. So it definitely pays to have
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a receiving first tight end versus a blocking tight end,
which as you heard, uh.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
The why, the true why?
Speaker 8 (54:45):
You know, you don't see people going why anymore because
these guys aren't really true tight ends. But I do
think that Tyler Warren is a true tight end that
can block and bring those elements to the game, but
also is as good as well being a receiving tight end.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
And I don't think anybody thought Ty Warren would sit
drop down here also in the middle of this first round, No,
I think going to the Jets, right.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
I thought he was going to the Bears.
Speaker 8 (55:14):
I mean I thought he'd end up with the Bears,
and so that that's interesting. And they did take it
tight end, they just didn't take him.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
It's crazy how it shifts so early in the night
with that big move, that blockbuster trade, and everything goes
down right, and.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
There's a trickle effect, for sure, it's.
Speaker 6 (55:30):
A trickle effect.
Speaker 4 (55:31):
And again, like I was saying, like the team, like
the Niners there were trying to trade up because they
bought into Hey man, cal Williams will go to the Saints. Uh,
you know what was gonna happen to the Panthers. It's
interesting too, the Panthers were calling around for a while
to trade down. And it is funny, Joe, how all
of a sudden you're on the clock. You're like, no,
we're convicted. All of a sudden, you're not convicted before it.
Speaker 7 (55:53):
Well, again, maybe like we talked about you didn't think
one of these players are going to be there, that
you that you you said, okay, that's.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
What Ted was going to be there, but that you
weren't as convicted they were trying to get out.
Speaker 7 (56:04):
Yeah, Joe just decided we're sticking, sticking and picking.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
Can you break down what it's like in the war
room and is it anxious? Is it preparation? Are there nerves?
Speaker 7 (56:15):
I think there are nerves early, Uh, you just want
to see You're just waiting to see how things shake out.
But again, you've been through so many of these strategy
meetings with the coaches, with the scouts, with the ownership.
You've gone over every scenario and at this point, you've
you've got your you've got your roadmap planned out, you've
got your strategy on what you're gonna do, what your
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pivots are if if these guys are gone, okay, you're
gonna pivot here. So now you're just kind of executing
the game plan and it's just you're trying to keep
it calm and you're not going to panic over any
anything that happens that you weren't expecting because we've gone
over everything. The amount of preparation that's gone into it.
You're just letting the board come.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
To you.
Speaker 6 (56:56):
Anticipation.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
I feel like the Bears have been taken a while here,
but finally the pick is in for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
With the tenth pick, the Chicago Bears select Colston Lovely,
tight end Michigan, six foot six, two hundred and forty
eight pounds.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
Guys, this is a big one that Jay had. We
reacted to it. Colston Loveland obviously a player that I
really spent a lot of time within watch that development.
What are your reactions to the move for Chicago Jay.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
Again, I, you know, tight end. They're going to try
and load up there for for Ben Johnson obviously. And
it's an interesting thing because again the forty nine ers,
they had Michel Williams the whole time and they were
not confident that he was going to be there. And
Joe's and we can get back to it after the break,
but this is the interesting part of Man, You're so
nervous about things and all of a sudden, the guy
comes down in your lap that you thought, no way
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he's going to be there, because you know, unfortunately they
all listen to all these different mocks and all these
things come out, but that was their guy, the whole
and the drop off after him them was pretty severe
for team like the forty dollars.
Speaker 7 (58:03):
And now everyone's high five and in that draft room,
I'm sure good feeling.
Speaker 5 (58:07):
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Speaker 5 (58:46):
And welcome back, thanks for hanging with us. The pick
is in for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
With the eleventh pick, the San Francis Go forty nine Ers,
select Mickel Williams Edge georgiahn six five, two hundred and
sixty pounds.
Speaker 6 (59:09):
Cal Williams. What do you guys make it?
Speaker 7 (59:11):
This one?
Speaker 4 (59:11):
So again, the forty nine ers. He was their guy.
This was the guy they wanted, and they were so
nervous they started calling up middle of the first round
to try and jump up ahead of what they thought
the Saints would do. Right, and again, this is what
happens when people don't have the same conviction. They were
convicted about this guy the entire time. And you know
the nervousness of Kyle Shanahan, Ji Lence and those guys thinking, man,
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it's not gonna happen, not gonna happen. It comes all
the way down by the way, the cowboys are up next.
They're entertaining trades right now. They don't they're gonna end
up going offensive line, all right. And I think, you know,
this is where you could have a guy like Booker
from Alabama, where you get an absolute stud right up.
Absolute we say war daddy, but he's a pure guard.
But okay, it's a pure guard. But again, go back
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to the forty nine ers. They were so locked in
on him. And when you got locked in a guy
like this, it's kind of like, oh man, we gotta
we gotta go up and get him. But it was
a Sometimes the moves you end up not making or
you know, work out in your favorite Joe.
Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
Yeah, this one fell right into their lap and this
this guy literally and figured. He is a dog. Like
the way he plays. He has hammer hands. He is
an excellent point of attack player, great length, great feet,
he can he can reduce inside and pass rush third
down situations. He's going to be a handful for guards
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as an interior rusher. He is just a tempo setter.
He plays nasty, plays with an edge. I love this
pick by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
By the way, quick note, Houston Texans are trying to
They've been trying to trade up these last couple of
picks as well. They're calling aggressively around. Just something to
keep your eye on. Gives me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Eldon Smith vibes right.
Speaker 8 (01:00:49):
Like tall, long rangey, but it's strong at the point
of attack. You could actually almost flirt with calling him
a true d n right.
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
You know there aren't a lot of those in this draft, right,
those tweeter pass roshers who are two hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
He's got some good weight to them, So I think
that's a great pick for them. It fits the mold
a player that Kyle Shanahan and that you know now
Sala being back in the mix as well fits that forty.
Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Nine ers team and guys. The pick is in for
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
With the twelfth pick, the Dallas Cowboys select Tyler Booker,
offensive guard Alabama, six five three one pounds.
Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
So again, Tyler Booker. When I talked to people in Dallas,
they're looking at Ted the wide receiver, two other receivers
as well. They were looking looking at some of these attackles,
but they looked at Booker as like, man, this is
about a short thing as you can get. He's a guy. Also,
I was told that he basically told people on his team,
if you bow out of our our our postseason, here
(01:01:56):
for your draft, you got to go through me. Like
he's one of those guys that's gonna set the I'm
sitting there talking to people in the Cowboy like, yeah,
but you know, we love him, love him, love him.
We just have to get around the fact he's only
a guard. I'm like, who cares, it doesn't matter if
he's guard attackle. If you know you're gonna get a guy,
you think he'll be a pro bowler for nine years.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
There's nothing like Larry Allen though, But Larry Allen wasn't
a guard. He was guard tackle everything. But man, if
you got it. But but Zach Martin, if you've got
a Pro Bowl guard in there for years, but also
guy who elevates your entire room, I say, you overlook
the fact that he's you know, guard tackle. He can't
do both. He's just a guard man. This guy's more
than just a guard. He is a man. He's a
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war daddy. So I've said that a couple of times
in here today. I'm always saying about a few guys. Yeah,
but he's one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
And we so we used to have a term for
this type of player, really the last two players, and
we talked about tempo setters, like in Baltimore, this was
a ret We'd call it a red star player. And
this was the guy you'd want to bring with you
on your side to any fight. And this guy brings mentality,
nasty toughness. I mean, he is the offensive line version
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of the last the last guy we just talked about
from Georgia. You know, he is the absolute toughest, meanest,
nastiest guy on the field. He plays angry, he this
is this is another great pick.
Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
I think it's a great but I've loved this for Dallas.
I really loved that.
Speaker 8 (01:03:17):
I'm interested to see how his game translates into the
next level. You know, he's he's strong, he's a squatty guy,
even though he's he's pretty tall. Six' five is is
a good height for a. Guard but will his punch
be strong? Enough will his you, know you got to
play games at that that guard's, position because you got
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some as y'all would, say War daddy's across from, him
and and they'll be coming with some valent techniques and
valient hands and most likely some very good Feat it'll
be interesting to see how his game translates to the next,
level BECAUSE i would assume based upon what they got
going on In, dallas he's going to probably be called
upon to play mediately for his.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Teams, yeah but, look offensive line has been their problem
for a long, time, right And Zach martin, retired, right
so they got to get some stability in there if
they want doc to work. Out and you, know SO
I i love this. Pick look they you, know LIKE i,
said they were flirting with Like Walter. Nolan they had
the two second two receivers From texas And Ohio state
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they were thinking about as. Well they didn't think some
of The they thought that those couple of tackles will
be gone as. Well so when you look at, it,
like who's the surest offensive lineman left by far to?
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Him, YEAH i love this.
Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
Pick, yeah and he's going to keep a firm pocket
For Dak AND i do See levar's. Point IF i
do nitpick, HIM i do worry about him his lateral
recovery on stunts and, games BUT i think his upper body.
Strength actually loved his. PUNCH i love the way he
just tore guys to the. Ground you do worry, again
like a little bit with the lateral agility of recovery
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aspect of. It but this guy just brings the, toughnesstality
the exact toughness of mentality you're looking.
Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
FOR i, mean you got to throw it out there.
Though you Got Dan, quinn defensive guru mind at, person
they're going to do what they're going to do. Schematically,
upfront you got The Philadelphia. EAGLES i don't know that
there's a better defensive front out. There you got The Dallas,
cowboys they got a decent, well excuse, me he is
A dallas. Cowboy you got The New York, giants is
(01:05:23):
WHAT i meant to. Say and their defensive front to
me there it's a it just got. Better SO i
think the idea of it is is that bringing him
into that type of scenario that that would be my biggest.
Concern there'd be maybe one or two of the divisions
THAT i would sit there And i'd, say you gotta
be concerned for a young guy coming in there at
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the offensive lines. Position i'd say THE Nfc east would
be one of those.
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Divisions, miami by the, way pick they're gonna end up going.
Defense he's getting thrown right into the. Fire in terms Of,
BOOKER i, mean you have to go Against Jalen. Carter
Dexter lawrence is a whole different breed of. ANIMAL i,
mean you're, right.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
There's some more, daddies as you always say out.
Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
There So Miami dolphins their next. Thing it's interesting because
they're trying to obviously have been trying to talk to
people About Jalen ramsey unloading, him and they've had talks
with a couple of different, teams AND i know, defensively
they still they need some help on that side of the.
Ball so you, Go, okay do you go corner here
to replace? HIM i don't think, so because you don't
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really have there's too, many there's. Nobody you, go, man
we love this Right Will johnson probably the most, talented
but he hasn't, run he's banged, up he's. INJURED i
think you look at and, go, man who are these
guys that can grow the? MOST i Think Kenneth grant
is somebody that flew up draft boards this past. Week
and the more you hear from people out, there the
more you love a guy like Like Kenneth. Grant you
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still have a guy Like Jalen walker look at him as.
Well but, MAN i Think Kenneth krant is a guy
that he's really been been zooming.
Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
Up and they have a need for a tight end as.
Well And Tyler warren is still out. There so you're
looking at guys Like Jalen, WARN i.
Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Think they go. DEFENSE i think they go.
Speaker 8 (01:06:59):
Defense you can't go wrong With Jaylen walker. Again you
can use them on the line as an, age you
can bring them off the ball as a. Backer so
it could be the idea that you, go WHAT i don't.
Know i've tried to read. YOU i really try to
read your list BECAUSE i want to sound Like i'm.
Smart but you, know on the defensive side of the, ball,
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man you can't go.
Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Wrong, Yeah, no there's a lot of Good front seven
guys go. Wrong for, ME i wouldn't Go CORNY. R
i'd go That front, seven BUT i Think grant ends
up being the guy they Like grant for.
Speaker 7 (01:07:33):
Me my top remaining, guys two of them are Defense
walker And stewart From TEXA a AND m and Then Tyler.
Warren those are my top three remaining.
Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Guys, WELL i think it's important to just pause for
a sec as we wait for this pick From miami
and just kind of recap where we're at. Right so
much drama to get the night started that huge blockbuster.
Trade The browns traded that number two overall pick to The.
Jaguar so let's just go through who we've got so
far guy For. Tennessee for The, titans they went with Cam,
(01:08:02):
Ward jaguars decided to go With Travis.
Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Hunter The Giants Abdul.
Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Carter The patriots made the decision to go with offensive
Tackle Will, campbell The Browns Mason, Graham Raiders Ashton. Genty
The jets decided to pick Armand Membu, membo excuse. Me
panthers went With Teda roa, McMillan, Saints Calvin Banks. Junior
bears went with tight End Colston, loveland forty Nine, Ers Mickel, Williams,
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Dallas Tyler, booker and we are waiting for the pick
to get in For miami And jay's going.
Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Defense i'm going, defense AND i Think Kenneth granner and
then The cults would be on the clock AND i
know they were looking at tight. ENDS i think this
weird tight End warren ends up going to The. Cults
he drops down because they were looking At loveland. First
everybody thought that Ty warren would go first And loveland be,
second and The bears office is. Shocked everybody went the
other way around. IT i think the cultus are going
to sit here and jump for joy That Ty warren
would be sitting.
Speaker 7 (01:08:55):
There AND i Think Chris baller and his pre draft
presser said they're looking for a three down tight end
and one just falls into your lap.
Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Here so, yeah not a.
Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
SURPRISE i think that's that's that's these next new next two.
PICKS i believe we'll go and just my talks with
about these teams do you like that Pick Kenneth. Grant
do you guys like? Him? Dude he went the love
for him this past, Week like there are certain guys
that start flying up that week of that, board and he.
DID i was told he was the dude in that
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d line, room right Was Lee. Mason he was the.
Guy i'm told he's just gonna get better and he's
a big. Dude we're gonna learn on this. Level and
and people were, Like, hey this is our this is
like A Dexter. Lawrence this is what they view him.
As but he really started to fly up within the
last five six seven.
Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
DAYS i would say that four or five Days LaVar watching.
Him he gave me Will fork vibes BECAUSE i think
he can be a day one dominant run, defense dominant
strength at the point of. Attack AND i don't think
he's an elite pass rusher as an interior pass, rusher
BUT I i think he's an elite power rusher in
terms of he's just going to be. Able you get
it a double legal. Front put him up against the
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fish if it's a center or, guard and he can
just mash the pocket into the.
Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Quarterback he has the biggest SMILE i Asked michigan head
Coach Ron moore for a quote about him today and he,
said general giant always got a, smile but when he
crosses the, line he is a.
Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
Monster and the pick is in For.
Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Miami with the thirteenth, pick The Miami dolphins Select Kenneth,
grant defensive, Tackle, michigan six foot, four three hundred and
thirty one.
Speaker 8 (01:10:36):
POUNDS i mean he is an. ATHLETE i, MEAN i
own reminded he did run down K trow about thirty yards.
DOWNFIELD i, mean you don't see defensive tackles they make
plays downfield like.
Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
THAT i had talked to Wing Martin dell today about him,
too and he's, like these teams who don't have him
high up need to change what they're. Thinking he's, LIKE
i love this. Kid and again he's like he's actually
he's gonna get. Better he's a big. Duty he's, like
you can actually get his body can fill out even.
More he just loved what this guy. Brings but he
Loved he's like in that room, too he loved what
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he was. About and again that's that's you, know The Miami.
DOLPHINS i told you the Colts, man they were kind
of looking At. Loveland nothing Of Ty warren's gonna be.
There none of them Told ty Warrens. ZARAH i believe
that's where The colts end up going a lot Of
owen D lyman, here a lot of. Affront you know
what It's it's screams safe. Draft, yep it's screams does.
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It it's Screaming i'm not in love with, skill so
we're gonna play it. Safe that's that's what it screams to.
Me BUT i, mean, listen they're they're they're solid.
Speaker 8 (01:11:41):
PICKS i, Mean i'm looking at you, Know Kenneth, Grant
I'm i'm looking at his his stat, Line i'm looking
at his. Highlights the, Heck i've had an opportunity to
see him play first hand because he's in the.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Ten.
Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
UH i feel like these are safe, picks THOUGH i
feel like there could have been some shake up that
could have taken. Place they have it taking, place but,
safe safe picks, Nonetheless.
Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Sometimes safe though it can be the difference maker for.
Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
YOU i think these is always because you don't know these.
Guys you can't push these guys buttons in interviews. Anymore
you can't do these things to see who they really,
are AND i think sometimes safer is. Better today's players,
Different LIKE i.
Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Had, said can we talk about?
Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
That you imposted that jay that they're evaluating players also
just on that love for.
Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Football but it's different in THIS nil.
Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Era, yeah different now right, absolutely where it was talked
about here and there about, guys but now it's like almost,
said there's so many guys taking off the board all
throughout the draft doesn't love. Football and you, KNOW i,
said and we kind of say it as fighters. SOMETIMES
i Think Mike tyson said, this it's kind of hard
to go after the title when your when your belly's,
full all, Right and it was Something i'm paraphrasing, them,
(01:12:54):
right but it was about that, man when you're, Starving,
oh it's. Different all of a, sudden you belly gets.
FULL a lot of guys you see with champions, too
they become champions and then they just kind of sit
back and they lose that eye or, theotograph you. Will
but that's where you just have a different difference here
with you, know a lot of these, players it's because
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of THE nil money thirty taken care. Of it used
to be like, MAN i gotta go be great to get.
Paid being famous is not the same as being. Great
tell that every guy comes into my gym to train them.
Program being famous ain't the same as being, great and
you all think it, is and it's. Not LeVar back
in the. Day the only way you're gonna make a
pro get getting endorsements if you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Make A Pro.
Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Bowl that's, right, right that's. It AND i used to
have all you, guys, remember call, me DID i make?
It DID i make? It DID i make? It i'd
Have Tony gonzalez And Brian, Irlacker John litz, straight DID
i make? It And i'm, like of course you guys
Made you guys were so concerned about making The Pro.
Bowl now it's just you don't have the same.
Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Thing, YEAH i think That's i'm gonna live with those.
Words being famous not the same as being. Great let's
see if The colts make a great select action here
fix in.
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
With the fourteenth. Pick The Indianapolis colts Select Tyler, warren
tight End Penn, state six five and a, half two
hundred and fifty six.
Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Pounds they are happy about.
Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
This.
Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Again tom talking To Chris ballard the other, day, man
he he didn't Think Tyler warren was gonna be. There that's,
crazy right for him to sit there. Crazy he is a,
happy happy we're actually texting right.
Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Now what a great man.
Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Just about this because you, know again he didn't he
thought he was gonna be gone top, Ten.
Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
Kelsey, kittle that's the Next this is the next. Iteration
one point two point, zero three point. Zero that's the
version of player that you're getting With Tyler. Warren so
good for The, colts good for The colts. Man i'm
excited For Tyler, warren but excited for The colts.
Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Too and The colts have always made it the.
Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
Deal they have a tight, end so, hey maybe it
works out for For Tyler warren as.
Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Well by the, way real, quick if we Can falcons
on the. CLOCK a year, ago we sat here And
Michael Michael pennox But Raheem morris told Me wednesday And i'm,
like come, on and then he said again remember that
AND i come in here said it and THEN i
texted him Early he's, Like i'm, like where you going?
Here he, GOES i told, you, coach we're going to the.
Quarterback i'm, like you were serious about? That And Lafar i'm,
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like because he jokes around so. Much i'm, like come, on.
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
And they did. It they did, it and he.
Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Starts they definitely did. It we'll see how that one
continues to pay.
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Well Jenny, Taff Joe, Douglas LeVar, Arrington Jay, glazer who
just ran back. In he was on the, Phone, jay
what do you got for?
Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Us just?
Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Again teams are The Houston texan will continue to try
and trade, up but again The Atlanta. Falcons, guys we
were talking about it right before AND i don't know
if we announced it or.
Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Not not, Yet, okay pick in bigause in let's let's
go for.
Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
It with the fifteenth, pick The Atlanta falcon Select Jaylen
Walker Edge georgia six, one two and forty three pounds.
Speaker 8 (01:16:42):
Money and they need it at. Right they needed. Pressure
that's What atlanta. Needed they needed pressure off the. Edge
they're going to get it. Now and think about who's.
Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
There you Have Jeff, olbrook who you, know well, yep,
right And Rahe morris thinking that, man they can get
nice and creative with, him but they need a guy
like this on the defensive out of the. Ball they
had them up. There they didn't think it was gonna be.
There so they started, saying, man we think we can
make some of these guys who may be off a
lot of boards Like peers From tennessee Or Walter nolan's
on some not on, others like, hey we can connect with.
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Them it's almost like they were.
Speaker 8 (01:17:14):
Trying harris is a sleeper though that is a Sleep
he's off a lot of tea. Boards but it's a
lot of. Boards it's the off field, stuff, right it's
a lot of.
Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Boards but, again these two, guys, hey we could connect with.
Guys we know we're the ones who can turn them.
AROUND i think When Jalen walker ends up sitting there
by the way The, falcons we're in big talks about moving. Back,
also LIKE i, said The texans are trying to move.
Up they've been trying to move, up but they were,
thinking hey do we move out because we have a
bunch of these guys who were comfortable with that a
(01:17:43):
lot of other people may not be as comfortable. With
BUT i think in the end man they look at and, go,
hey we know we're getting here and we're getting obviously
not just a culture builder And Jalen walker in, here
but we're getting a guy that they could use with such.
VERSATILITY i love this pic.
Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
For, yeah it's almost Like abdul in some ways you
can you can use. Him you can use him as a,
linebacker as an edge all over the.
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Field the.
Speaker 7 (01:18:09):
Thing he may not have the athleticism THAT i do,
has but he is an absolute. Hammer his play strength is.
Elite he can set the, edge he can he can
power through the edges of offensive tackles and pass. Rush
he's a great. Blitzer he can play some linebacker for.
Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
YOU i love this. Pick this is another Red Star
Dark alley fox hole.
Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Dude right and him And merla Kay. Starks but those
are the leaders over there on That georgia defense with
a team and a room full of. Dogs when you
have the big dogs and that's who they, are and
it stands out in a huge way of those two
guys are the dudes amongst the dogs in. Here that
says an awful.
Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
Lot they've got a great culture that they've created at that.
POSITION i, mean you look at the guys that have
been coming out the last few, years thinking About.
Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Nakobe dean and all those you, know.
Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
The Other Nolan.
Speaker 8 (01:18:57):
SMITH'S i, mean you got some some guys. There there's
a standard that you're seeing that has been. Developed And
Jalen walker falls right into that mold of guy that
comes out of.
Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
There he is, physical he is he is. Athletic you.
Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
Know the one thing that jumped out about him to.
Me he won The Buckets award AND i was a
part of the presentation this year the. Show what a
very very well, spoken very very down to earth. Intelligent
like listening to him while we were talking, football HIS
iq jumped off the chart with me and just listening
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to his approach to the, game how he, views you,
know just in terms of going into it with his,
opponents his attention to, detail it was really impressive being
able to spend time with him and just knowing his
work ethic and seeing his, film how he jumps off the.
Film he's a hustle, guy and that's WHAT i really
(01:19:56):
love about certain guys that play the. Game he's definitely
one hustle. Guy, yeah what you described as football instincts
is no. Surprise his dad was a, coach right like.
Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
You he has. That he's Kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Cardinals what position do you like for The? Cardinals?
Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Uh see, HERE.
Speaker 7 (01:20:14):
I THINK i THINK d line would be a good.
Bet maybe INTERIOR d, Line, YEAH i think.
Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Yeah they need help on that tide of the ball.
Out that's how They've they've done a. Lot that's HOW
i feel.
Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
Like that's how the drill good about it out the
last few picks they need.
Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
It pass rusher or. Interior you like? INTERIOR i think.
Interior who's your best interior? Left because they've Done, Grant we've,
had uh Both michigan t. Tackles it's only TWO d, tackles.
Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Right, yeah those are only TWO d. Tackles who's your?
Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
NEXT i, mean you've got there's some good. Players there's
some good players we haven't gotten to may, not may
not get. Taken BUT i mean there's a lot of
love for For Walter, Nolan ole Mess he's a guy
that's highly, productive can jump off the, ball, uh, disrupt
get in the. Backfield so that's that's been a hot
name in THIS i.
Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Can get after that. ONE i. CAN i could see
that over. Here and you, know think With Walter nolan,
again certain teams have them all because not anything about.
Him he's always been such a almost like a product Of.
Nil he's been so recruited and taking care of like,
man they just everyone has pumped him up everywhere he's.
Gone you get him on this, Level, yeah with a
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guy Like Jonathan cannon who can kind of get, it
get after him a little, bit it's gonna be a
good pick if that's where they.
Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Go, YEAH. Jg you'll get the most out of him for.
Sure so who you guys think is gonna?
Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Be he, Said Walter. Nolan I'm walter. UP i like. That,
OKAY i like That Walter. Nolan Then i'm gonna go
With Walter nolan.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
TOO i love that that. One like that's a safe,
one you know.
Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
WHAT i, MEAN i trust these experts around, me all.
Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Right with the sixteenth, pick The Arizona cardinals Select Walter,
nolan defensive, Tackle. Mississippi six, four two hundred ninety six.
Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Pounds it's nice when you guys know what's gonna. Happen i'm.
Impressed this seems like a great fit For.
Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Arizona yeah, AGAIN i think talent, wise you're sitting the
one thing that everybody told About walter And. Owen it's
like you're sitting there and you're, Like, okay we want
to see that man huge breakout with. Consistency but it's
almost Like god hasn't had to. Him it's not his.
Fault he's just always been so, celebrated pumped up wherever he's.
GONE i haven't had someone inside the room When ole
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miss got him, there and it was it was a crazy.
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Fox Sports. Radio the pick is in for The.
Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Bengals with the seventeenth, pick The Cincinnati bengals Select Shamar, stewart,
Edge TEXAS a and a half six, five two hundred
and fifty seven pounds.
Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
As we're all over this.
Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
One so let me tell you my draft. Process before
every TEAM i talk, to we go over and we'll
kind of almost do our, mom what do you think
is going to? HEAR i think. THIS i think. This
every team THAT i talked to all Thought Jamar stewart
here with The, bengals like it's perfect for, them so
they Need i'm, like why is he only have four
and a half?
Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Sacks what's?
Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
That because he looks the, part Right, joe and, like
he plays so hard and sometimes he just gets locked
in with his one on ones instead of seeing everything
else that goes. On so, it's you, know gonna be interesting.
There you know they made a chance the defensive. Coordinator
but he certainly looks the.
Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Part, oh he looks.
Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
Apart his athleticism is, Freaky like he does everything thing
that a top five pick would do except sack the.
Quarterback so there's a lot of questions in discussions about
his football overall football. Instincts but, man does this guy
play so? Hard he's so. FAST i mean you see
him chasing down screen sideline to sideline, again has the
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athleticism of a. LINEBACKER i, mean it's just why does
he only have such.
Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Few sacks and good.
Speaker 7 (01:24:25):
Though, yeah we Saw Trevon walker go number one and
he didn't have a bunch of sacks coming out Of.
Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
Georgia so that's kind of the Way georgia does, it,
right the scheme they rotated saying them, right it's, right
you would think a little bit. More BUT i, mean
there's a lot of love for, him without a. Doubt
LIKE i, said every and literally every team was like
they had him peg going there, too since.
Speaker 8 (01:24:46):
He shows the, measurables AND i think that that's what's
most important about, it. Right he shows the burst off
of the, ball he shows his ability to fight through the,
blockers he can get off of the, blocks and just
listening to what you're, Saying, jay in terms of the,
idea maybe he gets locked in on the work that's
in front of. Him maybe he doesn't see the entire
scope of what's going, on and maybe that's the reason.
(01:25:07):
Why maybe maybe he's forcing, people you, know to go
into other sax situations that there could be a lot of.
Reasons but his, intangibles as As i've heard, ARE i,
MEAN i think he's a, really really high motor guy
and and the fact of the matter is that you
look at them Losing, hubbard so they're gonna need that
(01:25:30):
ad right away. Out they don't know If hendrix is coming,
back BUT i would assume If hendrickson's coming back right,
now then now you're gonna have a guy that can
probably take that rawness of what this young man is
bringing to the table In stoart and actually teach him
the things and show him the way that would actually
make him a more probably formidable, defender because that's gonna
(01:25:54):
be tough to do that in THE Afc. North that's
one of those divisions that you talk. About you can't
just come in there half step and thinking that you're
going to just get out there and you're gonna have.
Success so it'll be interesting to see how he develops
under you, know the, tootles maybe Maybe hendrickson In.
Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Cincinnati, guys you, know just next couple pick Us Seattle.
Seahawks they had just a handful of these first round
grades and they've been on the phone see if they
could trade, out AND i was, told if we, don't
it'll Be Greys, abele offensive lineman From North Dakota state
who you, know people love. Him LO i JUST i
heard so much about him this last, week but, yeah
(01:26:33):
this is a team. Again The seahawks only had a
few who were up, there but he was that think
he's the. Last there's a couple of those guys. Left
but they did have a priority on what.
Speaker 8 (01:26:41):
Are The seahawks, Doing like what are they doing this? Offseason,
like do you guys feel good about what they're? Doing
this seems like what was.
Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Gonna be an issue with we Signed gino didn't want
to be. There Metcalf, ALSO i think even they thought about, It,
okay let's you, know we're gonna end up moving on
from Uh like during the before the trade, deadline they
thought about TRADING. Dk, WOW.
Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I mean that's a big. Deal that is a big.
Speaker 8 (01:27:09):
Deal but they've pretty much let their entire receiving the
nucleus of their entire offense really At Cooper.
Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Cup they're getting In njigbu from last. Year they still
Like cooper come in and kind of teach him as.
Well so they're just redoing with that. That do you
think they take a receiver?
Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Here do we finally get a scale guy.
Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Climent they're gonna we're gonna stay.
Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Safe we're staying, safe and.
Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
They they'll get too far away from. SHORE i guess, well.
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Speaker 6 (01:27:58):
It the pick is in For.
Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
With the eighteenth, pick The Seattle seahawks Select Gray, disable
offensive Lineman North Dakota, state six foot, six three hundred
and twelve.
Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
Pounds Graz abel it is you guys are all over it.
Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
AGAIN i you, know that was one of the teams
that just didn't have a lot of first round grades
and he was in. There loved. HIM a lot of
people Love, crazabel they really. Did he was a, guy
a name that started really climbing in this last probably
a little bit over.
Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Week, yeah guilty is charged on one of those. GUYS
i Love.
Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
Graysabel and the thing is he obviously played left tackle
At North Dakota. State he's not going to play left
tackle in THE. Nfl but what you worry about smaller?
School can he make that? Transition he goes down The Senior,
bowl he plays, tackle, guard. CENTER i, mean this guy
can play, anywhere So i'll be. Interested Is seattle going
to use him as a? GUARD i mean the card
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was turning his, guard but he could play.
Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Center he.
Speaker 7 (01:28:58):
Could to, me he is an old school dirtbag like he.
WANTS i love that he wants to put people dirt. Back,
yeah super old, school but, yeah he wants to put
people on the.
Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Ground.
Speaker 7 (01:29:12):
Man he he reminds me just Washing tavy kind of
reminds me of guys Like Logan mankins And Marshall yonda
just got that that that blue, collar nasty.
Speaker 8 (01:29:22):
VIBE i think you hit the nail on the head
when you talked about what he was able to do
in The Senior. Bowl is one, thing look Da coda.
HAS i, mean they certainly have the resume of putting
guys into the league and and they becoming quality guys
in the. League but it was his his performances at
The Senior bowl THAT i believe opened up a lot
(01:29:43):
of people's. Eyes he had a good showing at at the,
combine and so looking at what he brings to the,
TABLE i, mean NEED i say another safe.
Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Pick, see but he was.
Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
So crucial For North Dakota.
Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
STATE i, mean they had an outstanding year AND i
think that versatility can be can be.
Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
Crucial so right.
Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
Now we've got The Tampa Bay buccaneers on the clock
as we wait for that.
Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
One and AND i talked to THEIR Gm Jason light
last week and too they had they were just going
to sit there and go we have we could just
wait best available player who's over. There we don't need
to reach for anything we could possibly trade. Back they
kind of they really liked where they were and we're,
like we think this is where you want to be
in this. Draft you want to be down here in.
Nineteen you don't want to be in the top.
Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Ten.
Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Yeah one THING i do want to bring, up guys
that we've kind of been watching part of the. Broadcast
you Know, shoudur, right he was a big question mark
going into this, One Shadur sanders where will he?
Speaker 6 (01:30:40):
Go will he go in the first?
Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
Round he has been shown on camera. Plenty do you
guys have any opinions On wherehill land and will it
be in this first?
Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
Round by the, WAY i did talk to sh. Today i'm, like,
dude make sure you're not the misery. Shot he was,
LIKE i won't be on. Camera he's been on cameraon
all the. Time i've known it. Forever like his, Family
dion helped my life years. Ago that's a brother to. Me,
him Him ronnie a lot actually helped change my life
in my. Career so love him. Forever and, yeah that
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was the whole thing. Though i'm, like, hey, DUDE i
don't care where you, are just don't be that misery.
Shot if you if you. Drop and that's been My
i've talked to a lot of these guys about. This
i'll never Forget Brady. Quinn the whole day during the,
Draft i'm like texting him, like, dude stop being the misery.
Shot get everybody away from, you and, man you just
don't want to be. THAT i think you do kind
of handle it well over. Here BUT i was my
(01:31:29):
advice to him. Today i'm going to Remind brady this,
morning you, know coming go you can remind him of
the misery.
Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
Shot my mother took a little shot outing today too,
though because we were talking about draft experiences and he was,
LIKE i was LIKE i was a little. Stretched he was,
like why were you stretch you? SHOT i, said, WELL
i wasn't in the same position.
Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
You were in what we were getting.
Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
DRAFTED i was negotiating my contracted you, were you were.
Not it was it was a slight, flex that's. All
it was a slight. Flex but he thought he was going.
Three they were. Negotiating do you where.
Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
Do you See?
Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
Shaduur where do you see a good fit for?
Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
Him?
Speaker 7 (01:32:07):
Yeah, LOOK i first of, All shadur is my number
two quarterback Behind. CAM i think there's some things he
does better Than. Cam, ACTUALLY i think he gets the
ball out on. TIME i think he's in terms of,
accuracy he's always been a seventy percent plus completion. Guy
so the talent is. There so really it's just the team.
(01:32:28):
Fits so you're you're looking at teams that maybe have
already picked in the top five or, ten that maybe
want to trade up and get a get their quarterback
of the.
Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Future so looking at those.
Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
TEAMS i feel like the criticism That shador has received
at times has been a little. AGGRESSIVE i enjoyed being around,
HIM i enjoyed Covering. PRIME i feel like he if
anyone can handle the pressure At, shaduur who's lived at
his whole. Life so it'll be very unique to see.
Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
It it's.
Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Interesting i'm, Sorry jenny do, yeah but it's interesting. Also
it's one of the things we. KNOW i said it to.
Him everything in his life has been kind of recruited around,
him and that's not gonna be in THE, nfl, Right
and there's even, like, hey you're gonna be with the
people that you don't. Like there's gonna be it's gonna be, different,
Right you're gonna have to kind of learn about that
of a whole different you, know a whole different world
(01:33:16):
that's gonna be around. YOU i think it's be great for.
HIM i think it'll be great growth for him because
he's never had to do.
Speaker 6 (01:33:21):
IT i think that's great.
Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
Advice and Hopefully, jay he'll keep taking those calls about
staying off camera a little bit.
Speaker 8 (01:33:27):
Because they keep popping him up. There you gotta believe them,
There what are you talking? About if The steelers don't do,
it which by all indications Of Jay glazer doesn't seem
like that's gonna be what it is THAT i, mean
you gotta believe unless somebody trades up into, it which
why would they at this, point why would they trade?
Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Up most teams are going back actually have him And
Jackson dart around the same mm.
Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Hmm there's a Possibility dark goes.
Speaker 8 (01:33:51):
Before i'm Hear dart's gonna go before Should it is
just the Word i've, gotten but.
Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
It's it's kind of what's your, FLAVOR i, mean which
one you? Want so, again they're they're kind of right
there together from WHEN i was told from every, team
they're just both there together at him And Jackson. Dark m.
Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
Hmm do you want to handle everything that comes With?
Shador and that's? Positive and at times it is a, lot.
RIGHT I, mean we see Coach prime and you, know
Like jay pointed, OUT I i've loved spending time With
prime and And dion And i've loved what he's done
with the program At. Colorado but there is a lot
that comes with the. Name so we'll have to see
how that one plays. Out we are waiting to see
(01:34:29):
what The buccaneers decide to do with their. Pick, guys
do you have any last, minute last second thoughts before
the pick is in and where they'll.
Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Go they're going, Receiver there you, go, Baby, yes there you.
GO a couple of receivers start, Going you'll See state go.
Here uh Uh Amiko. LUKA i would think after, that
AND i think you'll start seeing a couple of these receivers,
(01:34:56):
here and THEN i think you see maybe three of
these running backs Go maybe not, three but you'll see
a couple of these running backs start to go here
a little.
Speaker 6 (01:35:04):
Bit, also let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
With the nineteenth. Pick The Tampa Bay buccaneers select A Mecca,
eggbuka wide Receiver Ohio, state six foot, one two hundred
and two.
Speaker 6 (01:35:20):
Pounds Mecca aboo.
Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
GUY i can honestly, say, GUYS i interviewed him more
than anyone at this. Draft he so, loved so, loved
and so respected and respectful and great family and just
everything about him came back for a.
Speaker 6 (01:35:36):
Reason when's the national? Championship just the.
Speaker 5 (01:35:39):
MENTORING i can't say enough about A mecca AND i
can't wait to see what he does in the.
Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
League oh my, god every team you talk, TO i
always ask, teams who are the worst? Cats you're, like
not a, shot and who were the guys like, MAN
i would love this kid part of my family in
my football. Team you'll be around. Forever he was one
of the guys that everybody brought up just loved his his,
makeup who he is the. Dude in, fact also he
went back for a house, state but also another receiver
(01:36:05):
there to make sure he had some lineage, there, right he.
Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
Did he was a mentor For jeremiah.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
Exactly Miss. Smith it's just. Different SO i think a
guy here WHEN i talk to teams like he's a
number two, receiver but it'll be a Great Pro bowl
two receiver for years and.
Speaker 8 (01:36:17):
Years he gives Me i'm and raw. Vibes, yeah come,
on go, ahead go, ahead go, ahead.
Speaker 7 (01:36:22):
Talk About that's exactly WHAT i. SAID i said this
guy at the end of my, REPORT i, said this,
guy he may not be the sexiest wide receiver in the,
league but he's gonna help you win. Games you're gonna
do a lot of dirty where he's gonna make big.
Plays AND i, Said i'm On, rod just Like LaVar
Said Doug. Baldwin just a dude that's just gonna get it.
Speaker 8 (01:36:42):
Done maybe not a number, one but a very very
nice utility. GUY i, mean obviously you have some aging
guys and God win and Then Mike. Evans it looks
as though he would be a great fit to put
into those slot situations to you, know run those cross
patterns to run those intermediate to low cross patterns for the.
(01:37:04):
Quarterback For, BAKER i think it's a nice. PICK i
think that really rounds out that receiving core while they're,
Aging so now you're putting them in position where he'll
most likely take over one of the positions of A
godwin Or Mike.
Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
Evans you can't say enough about What Brian hartline has
done too with the receiver for, hiostage and that's a
great way to just feel good about a receiver you're
getting in that.
Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
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Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
Live about you, guys the night flying by to, Me
i've loved sitting and learning from the best of the.
Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
Best we're gonna jump right to. It pick us in
for The Denver.
Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Broncos with the twentieth, pick The Denver broncos Select JOHN. D,
baron Cornerback texas five, eleven one ninety four.
Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
Pounds So i'll tell you, this, guys about The Denver.
Broncos Sean payton gets no neurotic about the. Draft and
we've talked a billion times the last couple of, days
and the whole, Time i'm getting, Out i'm getting. Out
i'm getting. Out last, year he was he was set
on Bone nicks by the, combine like he was. Sick
WAS i remember you said that set absolutely set right
(01:38:53):
and and He. Uh at one point last year he's, like,
man The saints are trying to move up for Bow.
NICKS i mean That, saints The. Rams i'm, like AND
i knew they. WEREN'T i knew That sean McVay didn't
even look at. Quarterbacks so at one POINT i Called
sean McVay, Said, hey, dude this dude is trying to
trade up for a. Quarterback thinking you're trying to trade
(01:39:13):
up for CAN i tell him and get him off the.
Hook And sean McVay, says make him wait two days
and then you. Can SO i think he made me
wait Till wednesday. Afternoon but THEN i Toll Sean, Payton i'm, like,
dude they're not doing, It they're not going here and that,
no and he's they're Still he was, very very very
neurotic about. It but this, year the point is we're
(01:39:35):
talking about these these guys and he's, like, MAN i
really really really want to get. Out he Liked grant
defensive lineman from From. Michigan he LIKED. Jd, barron a
couple of these. Corners he loved, McMillan he liked gold
in The Ohio State. Receiver but he was, like he
really was intent on getting.
Speaker 7 (01:39:52):
OUT i think a lot of teams are trying to get,
out but they're not finding a, partner a dance.
Speaker 6 (01:39:59):
Partner where to.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Go but, yeah that's WHAT i.
Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
Like, again he's going jad bet and, guys you Know
Pittsburgh steelers are after, that AND i told you that
they're not going to go.
Speaker 8 (01:40:06):
SHADOR i, mean that's the, slat that's the drop, off
that's that's the fall. Over the waterfall right.
Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
There but it's funny they DID i talk to people
in their. Buildings it's just, like, hey we like to
smoke green smoke. Screen that's what we're gonna go with,
You and why wouldn't? They can you one?
Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
Up?
Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Jay?
Speaker 8 (01:40:22):
Is is there the chance That Aaron rodgers is waiting
to see if they were to take a?
Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Quarterback has nothing to do with?
Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
It? Nothing, actually What aaron said right about him going
through personal stuff and all, that that's that's, true and
he's told it to The. Steelers that's all. True and he's,
LIKE i don't need to put my personal business out,
there but he does have some things he's got to
take care of. That And i'm pulling for him in.
That there's there's some legit things that he doesn't want
and like get on him too That he's, LIKE i
(01:40:50):
don't need to let the world know What i'm doing,
here but he wants to make sure he's. Committed so
no one has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
All thank.
Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
You, YEAH i was.
Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Curious it's because everyone speculates in this normal social.
Speaker 8 (01:41:03):
MEDIA i was, speculating and maybe he's waiting to see
if they take a quarterback with their their first round draft,
pick BECAUSE i, mean ultimately that does play.
Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Apart, mean look at what just happened To.
Speaker 8 (01:41:13):
Kirk, cousins, Right Kirk cousins gets lulled, over you, know
and then they draft a guy and then he's not starting.
Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
Anymore so it does. Happen so as you, know, well
it's a great.
Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
Point and on that, know let's find out who The
steelers decide to go.
Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
With here.
Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
With the twenty first, pick The Pittsburgh steelers Select Derek,
harmon defensive tackle Ore agaon six four and a half
three hundred and thirteen.
Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
Pounds, joe what do.
Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
You like about this?
Speaker 7 (01:41:45):
Guy this is one of the more disruptive interior presence
in the. DRAFT i mean he can get, off get
off the, ball Disrupt he gets in the back foot
all the. TIME i think he was one of the
leaders in the country in. Pressures so a big, man powerful,
hands you. KNOW i think he can wreck some games
inside for, it and he can bring some interior pass.
Rush there's a little bit of stiffness in his lower,
(01:42:06):
body his redirect isn't, great but he can get upfield
in an upfield pass rush and he's gonna get after the, quarterback.
Speaker 8 (01:42:14):
You, know and he's able to To he's also one
of those guys that is able to get into his.
Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Gaps you.
Speaker 8 (01:42:20):
Know to, me what's most important depending on what type
of interior lineman you, are is that lateral. Movement you,
know can you can you beat that that crossblock or
are they gonna be able to seal you? Off and you,
know AND i, know if you're able to seal off
an interior, lineman the rest is. History because you're gonna
(01:42:40):
Get Derrick henry getting. Downfield you're gonna you're gonna get
guys that can run that ball getting downhill because you're
not making the ball spill all the way outside of the.
Line So i've watched him. Play he is not only,
disruptive but going into the, ten coming out of the,
(01:43:01):
pack a lot of people question what they have the
physicality to be able to make the. Transition not only
did they make the, transition but they won The Big.
Ten this young, Man Derek, harmon was a major part
of the reason why up front they were so stout
and sturdy that it gave their the speed that they
(01:43:21):
brought to the. Table it gave that the opportunity to
shine through SO i thought he was the catalyst of
this defense this past. Season and to see the way
he is able to maintain with double teams and is
able to move laterally to get to the gap he's supposed,
to which now teams are two, gapping so if they
do get ahead of, you they're telling the linebackers to
(01:43:43):
read over top of that tackle and get into that.
Gap BUT i like the way this young man plays the. Game,
physical gets to his, gaps pushes, upfield doesn't get blown
off the. Ball you don't see him getting blown off
the ball. Often so this definitely fits the character and
characteristics of what you want upfront as a defensi attack
(01:44:04):
when and that you know they they run THREE d,
lineman THREE d linemen and that that defensive front In.
Pittsburgh SO i think he's a great fit for. Them and,
LOOK i think he gets.
Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
It starts getting also a little thinner here offensive, line defensive,
line you, know so you kind of look at more
short things if you. Will, right you still got three
running backs that guys really. Love you have, safeties two
safeties that teams. Love Malochi. Starks we brought him up
right that absolutely. Love you have golden receiver From. Texas,
(01:44:35):
right you Have Mason. Taylor so there's certain certain teams
that still. Love NOW i will say, this we're, going,
okay what About? Shador what's gonna? Happen SO i know
there are teams that are trying to move back, in
BUT i don't know if it's for him Or Jackson. Dart,
again people kind of have them both the. Same So
Jackson dart was right there with, him and there were
TEAMS i know a couple of these teams were, like,
yeah if we try and move, up that could probably
(01:44:56):
be From. Jackson i've Heard dart, right it'll be For.
Jackson not your. Door another team, going now we'd go
To dover or Jack starts whoever really can make a.
Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Move, well THE La chargers right now on the clockleven
and sixth record last, year second in THE Afc.
Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
West is there a direction they quarterback to?
Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Go?
Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
Yeah, no is there a direction they need to? Go
what stands?
Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Out?
Speaker 6 (01:45:15):
Joe do you have anything on your mind for The?
Speaker 7 (01:45:17):
Chargers, LOOK i think The chargers could go in a
lot of different. Directions they could go running, back they
could go offensive, line, interior offensive, line specifically edge. Rush you,
KNOW i think there's a few DIFFERENT i think they'd
be honestly be looking to trade back here. Too and
if if you're one of those teams like, that it's
going to be at the top of the second round
(01:45:38):
and looking for a, quarterback The, giants The, browns like
this is around the time that you're gonna want to
try to make a move to go up and get that.
Quarterback we're getting into the, twenties so it's going to
be interesting to see what happens with this.
Speaker 8 (01:45:50):
Pick you hate to say it in a way where
it comes off the wrong, way but there's such a
drop off at this point on. Prospects so now when
you're looking at a team Like, harball you talk about.
Neurotic you, Know harball is one of those type.
Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Of guys as.
Speaker 8 (01:46:06):
Well he's, very very focused in and dowed in on
exactly the type of player that he wants to bring
into the culture of the team and the fabric fitting
into the fabric of his. Team and that's usually going
to be an, alignment alignment or it's going to be
some type of a running back because he starts with physicality.
FIRST i would assume you look at, it they might
(01:46:28):
go with an ad. Rusher you, know they just Let bosa,
go so he's no longer a part of the. Team
so they might look at it from the standpoint of
there there are so and and we brought Up pierce
and AND i know he dropped off a lot of.
Boards but a guy like, that what maybe possibly be
the type of guy that they look at and they,
say while he does have some of those things that
(01:46:51):
you're concerned about off the, field maybe if you love them.
Up you, know they got guys Like, Navarro bowlman on
on the, staff guys that can relate to the play
that they bring. In just maybe they bring in an
edge rusher to the fold and what they have going
on and see pairs being a.
Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
Problem you also have.
Speaker 4 (01:47:08):
Some guys that are that have injury concerns that if
they didn't you're talking top ten. Picks it's nine. O'clock
So Will. Johnson Will johnson, right and he's got a
lot of injury, concerns hasn't run it. ALL a guy like,
that he would never get out of the top. Ten
the inside Linebacker John CAMPBELL D, Campbell, yeah, right he
has two shoulders, too. Knees but that's a guy you're like,
(01:47:30):
man this guy that's top five, talent.
Speaker 7 (01:47:32):
Right he's, unbelievable, incredible a predator out. THERE i, mean
he just he just. HUNTS i mean it's fun watching
him play.
Speaker 6 (01:47:39):
Linebackers, So, joe how do you evaluate?
Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
That AND i know injuries are so specific to each, player,
right but a guy Like Will, johnson who just his
talent is so, clear and but it was something he
battled with all last. Season how do you kind of
weigh the pros and cons of risking?
Speaker 6 (01:47:52):
That do? You how do you talk to people to
make sure it's the right.
Speaker 7 (01:47:56):
Choice every team has a medical. Meeting every team sits
down with the doctors and the, trainers and they'll basically
give you.
Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
A score for a, player and that score.
Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
Has a match up with a lot of times you'll
the doctors will, say, well this might just only be
a one contract player based on the conditions he. Has
so then you have to factor in all that, information
especially when you're talking about a first round. Pick so
depending on the severity of some of the conditions that
a player may, have it's definitely gonna affect your decision
on whether you're gonna take. Someone here in the twenties.
Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
And, Again i'm told there are at least one TEAM
i know of saying they're trying to trade back in
For Jackson. Dart so, yeah and, look you said to
me twenty minutes, ago half hour, ago you thought they're
gonna end up Going.
Speaker 7 (01:48:41):
Chargers would you tell me Hamp, YEAH i THINK i
think that's a. Possibility just, SO i, mean like you said,
earlier the physicality running, there there is an identity with
A Jim harball coach team, physical, physical, physical and SO
i would not be surprised by a downhad running back
like ham With, hampton.
Speaker 5 (01:49:02):
AND i have to, say you can't take The michigan
out Of Coach harbor the other two running Backs Ohio state.
Guys is that that's hard for, Him let's be. Honest
maybe he can put it aside in you, know his later.
Life BUT i had that, thought like could he actually do?
That but we'll see if they decide to go with the.
Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
Rock back KIND a team in the twenties tell me
that they this week wanted to trade up for either
McMillan Or. Hampton and it's funny with what happens Because
sunday is totally different Than. Thursday, Sunday like, man we're
gonna go up and we're good to go up to
eight or ten for one of these. Guys and then
WHEN i talked the same guy, yesterday he's, like now
we're gonna sit. Tight we're gonna try and go the other.
(01:49:38):
Way then WHEN i talk, today he's, like, no, no
we're gonna go up for just the, receiver not the running.
Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
Back.
Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
Right it's incredible how much that. Changes and you could
talk about that of kind of the hour by hour
sway of emotions when you get convicted all, sudden like
what happens that you don't get, convicted you just come
to your senses or do somebody talk to you out of?
Speaker 7 (01:49:59):
It or, well you're you're trying to have all those
conversations way ahead of time and get as much information
as you can so you're not having the sways back
and forth last. Minute you want to have this thing
locked in unless you get some kind of crazy new
information that you weren't. Expecting, SO i, mean that's the
goal is to just go in this day and you've got.
It you know exactly the road you're going to, follow
(01:50:21):
you know exactly the player that you're gonna you're gonna.
Target and hopefully get so we'll see who The chargers
are going to. Take here looks, like, oh you know
who they're gonna take thirty minutes.
Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
Ago all, right so you you told me thirty minutes, Ago, mariah.
Speaker 6 (01:50:36):
Right the pick is.
Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
In. Right with the twenty second, pick The Los Angeles
chargers select Oh mari And, hampton running Back North, carolina
six foot, two one.
Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
Pounds so maybe we could break down what specifically About
hampton stands out over At Trevon, henderson over A Quinn Shawn.
Judkins what about his Play, joe his game stands out to.
Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
You, LOOK i.
Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
Think there's a Little joe mix into his. GAME i
THINK i think he is smooth and he is a.
HAMMER i Think joe might have a little bit better stop.
Start BUT i mean you're talking about a downhill. BACK
i mean this, guy he runs with, violence he runs with,
anger he can power through. TACKLERS i think He's he's
not an ultra elusive runner in the open. FIELD i
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think a guy Like Trevon henderson is a slasher and
a guy that can make you. Miss this guy's just
gonna run through. You and this is a mentality. Back
and now you've got him pair With Nase. Harris you've
got two downhill powerbacks that are gonna run power all the.
Speaker 8 (01:51:43):
Time he gives Me Jonathan taylor, vibes and they threw
the comp up. There he definitely gives Me Jonathan taylor
vibes and even not as, shifty but running, technique the
way his legs move and the way he kind of
holds his Body Leveon. Bell he has like a big
ten type of running, style AND i think.
Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
That that will.
Speaker 8 (01:52:07):
Equate, well go figure, right big ten running style type
of back going to a big ten style, coach to
the to the.
Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
Chargers so it makes. Sense it's A it's a pick
that makes a lot of. Sense you.
Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
Know WHEN i talked another another coach who was, saying,
MAN i love this, guy love. HIM i, said would
you take? Him he says two? SECONDS i, said you
have a running, back you already love, it GILLST i.
Do but MY i got a knit home runs like.
Speaker 6 (01:52:30):
This the home run. HITTER i love, that so, true.
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we've Lost Jay, glazer which means he's on the phone
getting getting it done with all the. Info it's been, fun.
Guys have any big surprises for you so?
Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
Far any?
Speaker 5 (01:53:25):
HIGHLIGHTS i Know levar's been saying along, Safe, Safe.
Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
I'm Loving as a Former, Alument i'm loving all these.
Speaker 5 (01:53:33):
Don't be tough on the safe, choice but.
Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Safe but last Year's Super bowl, champion The eagles.
Speaker 8 (01:53:43):
Up.
Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Front it all, starts AND i think you've seen that
play out.
Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
Here, joe how have you enjoyed this side of the,
thing because you are you've been a part of that
war room so many times and seeing it from this.
Side what's it been like for?
Speaker 7 (01:53:56):
You, Yeah, well it's it's been cool telling some, stories
giving you guys a little insight about what happens behind
the curtains in the war. Room but also it's just
fun talking about these players and have an opportunity to
watch watch all these guys and write the reports and
share share my opinions with you guys and everybody that's.
Listening it's been it's been really.
Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
Fun Johnny, Taft Jay glazer is somewhere in the building
on the. Phone LaVar, Arrington Joe. Douglas we're waiting on
The packers selection as. Well any direction that you think they.
Speaker 8 (01:54:26):
Need to Give Will, johnson you know number. Two they
got history with a number two From michigan by the name.
Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Of Charles, Woodson so you, KNOW i don't.
Speaker 8 (01:54:36):
Know they could use a. Cornerback they also could use
a receiver as. WELL i, mean they could use an
edge and they could use AN o. Lineman so who,
Knows maybe they go offensive. LINE i, MEAN i wouldn't
be surprised if they go oh.
Speaker 7 (01:54:51):
Line the only thing that would surprise me if they
took a tight, end because they've taken a lot of
tight ends. Recently but you're, RIGHT i think it could
go a number of different. WAYS o line wide, receiver
got Like Luther burdens still out, there there's another running.
BACK i, MEAN i still think the Two Ohio state
running backs are two of the best players in this
draft and they bring dynamic skill set in different. Ways
(01:55:15):
downhill physical runner With judkins and then the, slasher the
multi dimensional slasher In Traveon. Henderson so it's gonna be
one of.
Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
My favorite stories from just those two running. Backs When
Quinn Shawn judkins made the decision to go To Ohio,
state the first person he called Was Trevion so the
way they were able to do it. TOGETHER i think
their numbers are unique in the fact that in it
of the fact that they really were a team and
that dynamic is fascinating that they were better. Together so both,
talented both different but, talented AND i am curious to
(01:55:45):
see where those running backs. Go but first it's time
to get to what The packers are deciding to do
with their.
Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
Pick with the twenty third, pick The Green Bay packers
Select MATTHEW goldbt wide Receiver texas five, eleven one hundred
and ninety one.
Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Pounds Matthew golden From.
Speaker 8 (01:56:09):
Texas, well now they've added another receiver where you'd, say,
hey the debate continues on who's our number. ONE i
mean they brought In hartman this this. Offseason you, Know
Christian watson is on the men's you know you just
asked a, question and seeing this, team who do they
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have a true number?
Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
One, now WHAT i will.
Speaker 8 (01:56:33):
Say Is Matthew lafleur has been so masterful in how
they have managed this, offense And love has continued to.
Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Improve so you're.
Speaker 8 (01:56:43):
Seeing an offense that doesn't, show maybe somewhat the cracks
of not having a true established, playmaker because that's what
you call your number, one, right your number one is
who you, say this is the guy we need to.
Play we go to, him we get a. PLAY i
still don't think with this pick you address that. Need
(01:57:03):
so you've used a first round pick on what with this?
Receiver that's WHAT i would.
Speaker 7 (01:57:09):
Ask you can hang your hat on one thing with this,
receiver and that is electric. SPEED i mean he can
get behind defenses. CONSISTENTLY i thought he did that early
and often At. Texas he's a vertical, threat a vertical,
weapon and you can And laflor's gonna scheme him up
on cross or deep crossers over. Routes so he's a
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guy that's definitely gonna threaten the. Defense they got two
of them now With watson can do, that and he's
a little bit bigger Than, Golden but you got two vertical,
threats and then it's going to open it up for
the inside for your tight ends and running. Backs in
the past game as, well let me.
Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
Tell you what's going on right. Now, also, guys you
Know Minnesota, VIKINGS i believe her next, Right they've been
trying to work a. Trade The giants talk to, Them
Kansas city's talked to, Him atlanta's talked to. Him i'm
told if they end up, staying they'll go offensive lineman
And Donovan jackson's the GUY i. Like but they're still
trying to work this trade out with any one of
these three. Teams AND i think that's what's happening. Now
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you'll see a couple of these teams were sitting back
there and The atlanta wants a little sprised of, me
But Kansas city trying to move up for somebody to
have to both running backs are gone OR i love
What Brett beach does over. There but also a team
like The giants, Saying, okay can we go back in
and get a? Quarterback could maybe The, saints can we
go back in and get a? Quarterback we'll see what.
Speaker 8 (01:58:21):
Happens But i'll say, This, Uh Matthew golden, ELECTRIC i get.
It i'm still left scratching my head on. IT i
think they need help a, receiver.
Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
Though And golden's a guy who he went there to
be maybe a, number you, know just kind of of
a part time almost, right and he just you're, right
he took. Over he became the guy over. There he
was supposed to be a three and he became a.
One and that's somebody who a lot of teams really started.
Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
Liking can he at his? Size can he? Be can
he gain that?
Speaker 4 (01:58:52):
One?
Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Cause you got?
Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
It they need help with. That they need help with that. Position,
truth they really need help with that. Position and everybody
loves the makeup of this, cat loved.
Speaker 8 (01:59:03):
Him but you feel better about them going with a
receiver when they they need help with their edges, too
Like Rissar gary could.
Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
USE i think more than, Anything more than, ANYTHING i
think the receiver.
Speaker 7 (01:59:15):
Helpful more weapons for your your quarterback that's already in his,
prime so light up on. Weapons and, LOOK i Think
matthew needs to refine some of his route running, skills
just like any rookie that comes into the. League but,
again you can hang your hat on the.
Speaker 5 (01:59:30):
Speed, okay there can't deny. It for next Up. Minnesota
jay's been all over it on the. Clock you know
HOW i feel about My Minnesota. VIKINGS i can call
him that.
Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
Again The giants are trying to trade up, here and
if they trade, up it's gonna be. Dark it's gonna
be For Jackson. Dart it's not gonna be for we'll see.
Wow so if they take a, quarterback then what does
that mean for The? Vikings couldn't get something worked? OUT
i think. THEY i know that they'd like to offer
the lineman from From Ohio state.
Speaker 8 (02:00:02):
Who's trying to trade up to Get dark The Giants. Giants, Okay,
okay that makes more.
Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Sense, OKAY i got.
Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
It.
Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
Okay have they given any indication About dart and specifically
why they like him?
Speaker 8 (02:00:12):
More?
Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
AGAIN i think.
Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
No it was.
Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
Everybody was kind of like they had AND i, think,
YEAH i think some of it's like, man some of
the circus that comes along with should which doesn't With.
Dart other teams, like, no we're good because we think
he can thrive in big. Situations we're fine with. That
BUT i just WHEN i talk to people in The,
Giants dart was the. Guy it was Always Carter, weever they're, gonna,
hey we're gonna go quarterback early, on and they said
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if we move if they sit, TED i think they
were gonna look at a running. Back but if they move,
up they're, like, Yeah dart will be the. Guy it's
not gonna be Should. Door i've always thought should do.
That dart would be the second, guy second quarterback in this.
Draft and WHEN i was asked, TODAY i, SAID i
think only two going the. First if a team trades
back up For Jackson, dark, wow we're about to find. Out, so,
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guys The giants have traded with The texas trade they
are moving up with The. Texas they will end up
Taking Jackson. Dark minnesota goes with what about to fick.
Speaker 6 (02:01:13):
Us in for The Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
With the twenty fourth, pick The Minnesota vikings Select Donovan,
jackson interior offensive, Lineman Ohio, state six foot, fourth three
hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 8 (02:01:29):
Pounds i've heard from some people a little breaking news.
Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
Again The New York giants are going to trade up
with The Houston, texans And i'm told it is For Jackson.
Speaker 8 (02:01:39):
Dark he's, one he could be one on some people's
Boards Donovan jackson as an offensive.
Speaker 4 (02:01:46):
LINEMAN i Love Jonathan Donovan jackson BECAUSE i heard a
lot of that with The vikings looked about, him that
he was a phenomenal, guard but also when he kicked
out a tackle there was no drop. Off but, AGAIN
i want to get back to this gang because this
is a big. News want to be training up with
The Houston. Texans i'm told it's going to be For Jackson.
Dark that is. Huge The, giants you, know all along
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they were pegged at oh maybe number three Should. Sanders
they did a great job of smoke screening. EVERYBODY i
was told a couple of days, ago if they moved
back in it'll be For, dark wouldn't be For shud Or,
sanders so they. Couldn't they'll come away with what do
they think will be their franchise. Quarterback people love the
dude quality Of Jackson dark AND i think it's quarterback
just to be one of the top things you.
Speaker 7 (02:02:27):
Have we talked about this earlier in the, afternoon but
The giants were obviously afraid that The rams are going
to take a.
Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
Quarterback reason, no, no, no. No they were trying to get.
Up they were, again they were talking To. Minnesota they
were talking a bunch of. Teams, no The rams that
they didn't look at a.
Speaker 7 (02:02:47):
Quarterback you AND I i'm not saying we thought That
rams were, taking but The giants must have thought.
Speaker 4 (02:02:51):
THAT i think The giants been probably even talking Before.
MINNESOTA i just only found out about, It okay At,
minnesota BUT i knew all along that they were talking
about them back. Up but, no The rams. Didn't it
ain't really scout, quarterbacks but people were set that they're
gonna take.
Speaker 8 (02:03:07):
Quarterback that's so wild that they would go To Shador
sanders coverage wise, first now that this trade has taken,
place knowing that now they've gone To jackson. Dirt but
it's interesting to know that you were sitting here knowing
the outcome before it. Happens i'm looking forward to see
what they gave up BECAUSE i just want to analyze.
Speaker 7 (02:03:27):
That, yeah and the FACT i don't want to gloss
over and take this away From, LeVar but Domind jackson
another safe pick is a safe.
Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Pick, no he's a Good.
Speaker 8 (02:03:40):
Some people had him their number one rated offensive linemen
on their, board AND i know.
Speaker 4 (02:03:46):
That walking for The michigan QUARTERBACK i like to know that.
Speaker 5 (02:03:49):
His leadership on display well throughout the first round of The.
Draft you can stream us lines are trying to trade
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Speaker 4 (02:03:57):
Too you're trying to trade out as we.
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Speaker 6 (02:04:17):
Come on your right Exit Draft Night. LIVE i just got,
excited that's all, Right Draft Night.
Speaker 5 (02:04:23):
LIVE i got excited Because jay knew this was going
to happen with The.
Speaker 6 (02:04:28):
Giants the pick is. In that's who The giants are going.
Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
With with the twenty fifth, pick The New York giants
Select Jackson, dart Quarterback mississippi six, two two hundred and
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
Pounds, yeah we told you that was gonna. Happen and
then as we were saying, that guys The, RAMS i
got texts that, hey we're trading to pick out To.
Atlanta and THEN i started, asking, man Were atlanta going with?
Them they were Going, pierce who is the other? Guy
remember originally when we were talking about, this we, said,
man they're the one team that kind of THAT i
had With pierce on the, board certainly in the first,
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round but they connected with. Him but they Had Jalen,
walker they had they Had Walter. Nolan so they're ended
up giving up a first, rounder is WHAT i was
told to move up to The rams to Get pierce From.
Tennessee and again they are getting uh well, no, no,
yep first round pick in twenty twenty. Six they're getting
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a twenty twenty six first round pick and a second
round pick this, year we're going down to forty. Six so,
man but, again getting a first rounder For pierce is, like,
wow look The Jackson darth.
Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (02:05:41):
Guys, again we were talking about if The giants are
gonna move, up it's gonna be for. Him if The
saints are gonna move, up is going to be for.
Him so good to The giants to kind of go get,
hey we need a. Quarterback it was a good job
there By Joe, shane this one right here for The.
Falcons because so many teams Had pierce off the. BOARD
i Guess atlanta was picking so far. Down they didn't
think they were getting in the. Shop but WHEN i
talked To moose today about, it but we found out last,
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year doesn't snow. Me he was, like, look we connected with.
THEM i know other people may have their, things but
we connected with them WHERE i think other people. Want
so one thing you know About, ry he wants pass.
Rushers he got two. Today there's no Doubting pierce in his,
talent no doubting. That what's none, right?
Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
None he is.
Speaker 7 (02:06:19):
Explosive you know what's really impressive About pierce is you
know all these college officers run THE rpo with these athletic,
quarterbacks And pierce hawks guys. Down he's got great eyes for.
That he's he's an explosive pass. Rusher BUT i think
this is a situation Like, jay you're talking To rahim
today and this he Obviously walker And pierce sounded like
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they were obviously in their top. Ten and so those
two guys, overall, yeah like both of, them and So
i'm sure they they were at the. Point let's go
get both of both of, them BECAUSE i MEAN i
can remember back in twenty twenty, two after we took
after we Took sauce and we Took garrett and we, said,
Hey Jermaine, johnson he's our ninth rated, player let's go
up and get hit. Him and so we. Went we
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went to twenty six and did. It so this is
this is a little similar to the accept they're just
doubling up with pass.
Speaker 8 (02:07:06):
RUSH i love his. GAME i, mean he's. Exploded nothing
not to like about his. Game he's he's, RUBBERY i call.
It he's one of the rubbery type of pass rushers
where you think you're getting good punches on, him you
think you're going to slow him down in some. Way
somehow his body moves and, it you, know it adapts
to your hands and it's just to your, hands and
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he's still moving. Upfield and now all of a, SUDDEN
i THOUGHT i was doing well against, him and you
gave up a sack and you didn't know how it.
Happened that's what this Kid pierce brings to the table playmaking.
Ability AND i mean to add him to the. List
with With Jayalen walker going To, atlanta their pass, rush
which was sorely missing this past, season obviously now gets
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a whole.
Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Lot of what what they call that, Nitro, yeah hit
that nitro.
Speaker 8 (02:07:56):
Button you got to ride it out until till it
gets all the way out It.
Speaker 6 (02:08:00):
Well it is official For. Pierce the pick is in
for The.
Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
Falcons with the twenty sixth, pick The Atlanta falcon Select James, Pierce, Junior, Patch,
tennessee six foot, five two hundred and forty five.
Speaker 7 (02:08:15):
Pounds two guys of instant. Nitro oh man are two
guys that bring.
Speaker 8 (02:08:22):
That and he's he's, light he's a, lighter he's he's
that he can put his hand the ground. Still it's
that new age d n he's. Lighter you. Know in
my day it was the The Leonard, littles you know
out Of. Tennessee that Was they've made it a point
to be able to have those, long, stretchy wiriry defensive.
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Ends pierce fits right into that that. Lineage And i'll
tell you, what outside of any off field type of,
concerns if that isn't it's off five. Tient come, on,
man if that isn't, there this this kid goes so
much higher than what he. Did so talk about the
the value proposition that That atlanta has just got a hold.
Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
Of and this draft all together so, far.
Speaker 4 (02:09:10):
And there are certain guys who think like, Look Mike, tomlin,
RIGHT i can fix, Anybody raheem. Morrise, THUS i can fix.
ANYBODY i think any read. THINGS i can fix a
lot of. People you, know there's certain teams that can, say,
hey you bring him, here well we'll be fine. Here
he'll be fine under. Us maybe not someone, else but
he'll be fine here in our culture and who we.
Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Are i'm sure there's.
Speaker 7 (02:09:28):
That and Then raheem And terry might be, thinking, well
we just took this guy From, georgia that is a
dude understanding un let's pare him and they'll he'll take
him under his.
Speaker 4 (02:09:39):
Wing BUT i Think raheem looks like he and just
want To, yeah could get could connect with, anybody and
you know you're with, Him there's no.
Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
Doubt it's the relatability can connect with.
Speaker 6 (02:09:50):
Anyone right, Now, GUYS i didn't want to cut you, Off, Joe.
Speaker 7 (02:09:54):
No the players are just gonna run run through a
wall For Jeff. Albrough he's a phenomenal motivator right.
Speaker 6 (02:09:59):
Right, Right Baltimore ravens on the. Clock but First Draft
Night live.
Speaker 4 (02:10:03):
It starks as perfect for The. RAVENS a guy like
that like, THAT i, would oh my, god.
Speaker 6 (02:10:08):
Oh, no that's. Good let's talk more About starks after.
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Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
Com jay tell me.
Speaker 4 (02:10:27):
More, Yeah i'm just looking for like A ravens type
of pick and like that is so, them, RIGHT i
would say that linebacker again that we talked about who's
banged Up. Johd, right that'd be a perfect type of
guy for them, also but again you have to see
them there. Go, MAN i don't know he start on
pup or something like, that you, know along those. Lines
But i'm just looking like top AND i Know i've
(02:10:48):
talked to people in The ravens two about, It, like,
man they just love love. AGAIN i get the same
thing love LIKE I starks Love Walker.
Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
Will.
Speaker 4 (02:10:59):
Johnson there's still there's a couple of. Guys Will johnson
people afraid of because he wouldn't run and because of the,
injuries so they're afraid of. That But Malokay starks was
like there was a team in the top ten and
said they considered. It i'm sitting here, going, MAN i,
KNOW i talk to people in The ravens this week
and it was we talked about, it brought. Up i'm
just trying to put two and two, together And i'm,
like this would be a great.
Speaker 7 (02:11:18):
Pick you just know what you're getting With. Malachi he's,
tough he's, smart he's.
Speaker 4 (02:11:23):
Productive WHAT i WHAT i try and do now Is i'm,
like who do we talk? About they're still there for
these guys besides getting text from the. Rooms but, yeah,
say would LOVE i would love that selection for.
Speaker 8 (02:11:36):
Them they make it a point to get interior guys
on the defensive side of the. Ball they make it
a point to get ed guys on that. Defense I'M i,
MEAN i would assume that they're going to go on
the defensive defensive side.
Speaker 2 (02:11:52):
Of the, ball right of.
Speaker 4 (02:11:52):
Course, yeah who who are you? THINKING i think malch
starts put him And ampleton, Together i'm.
Speaker 5 (02:11:59):
My, Right and he started all but one game in
his three years From george ting, like the dependability alone.
Speaker 4 (02:12:06):
Been there the entire. Time i'm just, LIKE i just
remember he stood out from these. Names because when you're
picking down There you're, like do you think this guy
the last, year do you think this guy could get to?
Us AND i didn't, know you. Know and then there's
a couple of guys do you think you get? Them, like,
yeah these guys and you know, Them like everybody, else
we're gonna we're gonna move. Out we're gonna try and move.
Out but he was one of the. Names you think
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he'll be.
Speaker 7 (02:12:26):
There i'm, like, yeah there's also a running back out
there that would pair perfectly With Derrick henry explosive dynamic.
WEAPON i don't know if he came. UP i don't
know if he came up in your, conversations but.
Speaker 8 (02:12:41):
That is that is that would be a nice. Combination
but they got a good combination going there right.
Speaker 4 (02:12:47):
Now who's the young is a? Singletary what what's the
not single? Tear what's the the second?
Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
Guy?
Speaker 8 (02:12:54):
Switch but they gotta switch Us? Justice maybe It's Justice.
Hill they have a pretty good switch. UP i like
this whole defensive. Deal you put. It Put Madlachia starks back.
There like you said With, hamilton that's two big. Hitters
you got two head hunters back. There so they've known
for their safety, play you, know for quite some time,
(02:13:14):
now so that would be a good pick FOR.
Speaker 4 (02:13:16):
I just remember them talking, about you, know here's my
problem to a. Game as you could, SEE i wrote
down notes from every team they give, it AND i
can't read my, writing so you, can SO i have
to r, right it's doctor.
Speaker 6 (02:13:32):
Glad if it fell out of your, back no one
would know what.
Speaker 4 (02:13:34):
To do it all the information trying to look at,
it And i'm, like, man what DID i? Say, okay
THIS i could check it out right there it, is.
Speaker 6 (02:13:45):
Guys The ravens pick is In you're onto something.
Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
Here with the twenty seventh, pick The Baltimore ravens Select Malachi, starks, Safety,
georgia six foot, one ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (02:14:01):
Pounds, Okay, starks you know what you're. GETTING i THINK
i like that from, You. Joe you know what you're
getting With, malachai and that's a that's a great choice for,
them great, fit productive every.
Speaker 7 (02:14:13):
Eight, like you know what you're getting with all These
georgia defensive. PLAYERS i think they are one of the
few that one of the few teams that tackle and practice.
Anymore so you know you're getting a great, Tackler you're
getting a head, Hunter you're getting someone that plays, hard
that plays, top that has instincts and they can he can,
cover he can zone and man. Cover you can see
as ball, skills so instant Captain.
Speaker 8 (02:14:33):
Tuberguy, yeah it's interesting because With, malachi you get a
guy that you know in in a past first. League
now where that's how you have to state. It it's
a pass first. League it's not a run the ball
established a, run run, first then.
Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
Pass it's.
Speaker 8 (02:14:49):
Passing so more often than, that you're going to have
to use personnel groupings that have less, backers less, bigs
and more guys that can. Run having a guy Like,
malakai you can keep them on the. Field he can
come up as a. Nickel you can use them and multiple,
purposes multiple places on the. Field just like we talked
about the guys up front and the front, eight he
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can blend into the front eight and play in in
the run. Situations for This Baltimore ravens, team getting a
safety like this gives you multi dimensions because you can
do the same exact thing With. Hamilton, Hamilton, YEAH i
GOT i think this is this is a very very nice.
Pickup it creates a dynamic duo that that you probably
(02:15:34):
will get excited about seeing play On.
Speaker 7 (02:15:36):
Sundays it's a secondary loaded with first round. Picks, Hamilton Marlon,
humphrey The clemson corner they took last, year and Now.
MALACHI i, mean they're just loaded with.
Speaker 4 (02:15:47):
Talent you, KNOW i find amazing. Too we haven't had
a heard a peep Of Howie roseman trade m.
Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
Right you know he's been. Trying you, know He's Dylan
wheeling and d.
Speaker 5 (02:16:00):
Do you guys want a little recap of everywhere we,
went everywhere we've, went everywhere we've. Gone excuse, me my
grandpa's rolling over in the grave for that grammar. Mistake,
look it's been a busy. Night not happy about that.
One Tennessee titans made the decision.
Speaker 6 (02:16:14):
To go with Cam ward at. Quarterback of, course the
big first trade of the. Night we've now had.
Speaker 5 (02:16:19):
Many Jacksonville jaguars decided to Select Travis hunter From. Colorado
The giants go With Abdul carter and guys feel free
to jump in if there's. ONE i. Know Abdul Carter
LeVar was all over From Penn. State that was a big.
Move The patriots make the decision to Select Will Campbell
Mason graham From michigan At dtackle goes to The. Browns
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Ashton genty From Boise state that running back to The.
Raiders he was a six pick arm On membo to The.
Speaker 6 (02:16:51):
Jets From.
Speaker 5 (02:16:53):
Missouri we Had tedoroha McMillan From arizona to The, Panthers
Calvin Banks junior From texas to The saints tight end From,
Michigan Coltston loveland To, Chicago San francisco With Michael williams From,
Georgia Tyler booker To dallas From, Alabama Kenneth grant From
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michigan To, Miami Tyler Warren Penn state tight, end Colts
Daylan walker to The, Falcons Walter Nolan, Cardinals Shamiir stewart
to The, Bengals Gray's ABEL ndsu To, Seattle Ameca abuca
From Ohio state that wide receiver to The bucks And
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denver going With Jodday barron From, Texas Derek harmon From
oregon to The.
Speaker 6 (02:17:41):
Steelers The chargers make the decision to go with A.
Speaker 5 (02:17:44):
Marion Hampton Green, Bay Matthew golden From texas that wide,
Receiver Donovan jackson From Ohio state To. Minnesota, boy that's
a long.
Speaker 6 (02:17:53):
List we've been.
Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
At it for a while, Here, yeah tell us how
you do? It you do.
Speaker 5 (02:18:01):
It it's crazy when you think of all the mock
drafts that you read going into this and how different
they all look from what we actually. HAVE i, mean
that's what's so fun about about this, experience about the.
Speaker 2 (02:18:11):
DRAFT i still.
Speaker 7 (02:18:13):
FOLK i think the best value pick in this draft
is The Indianapolis colts Getting.
Speaker 8 (02:18:17):
Tyler warren where they did where they got him when
everyone thought he was going to be a who else
do we still have on the, Board Like connery from
talking about still on.
Speaker 4 (02:18:27):
The board that we're, like, man why is a couple
of running backs both of?
Speaker 7 (02:18:30):
House, yeah those are the highest guys left for. Me
Mason taylor from from l.
Speaker 4 (02:18:36):
S U, arroyo by the, Way tin down from Mister
miami started moving up a little this week as. Well probably.
NOT i don't know about the, first but it's just
a NAME i started hearing a lot. About but who
else do you both safeties?
Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
Too?
Speaker 4 (02:18:53):
RIGHT i Mean worray also FROM.
Speaker 7 (02:18:55):
UH i Like Kevin winston From Penn state as, well
coming off the injury.
Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
Love hell yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:19:02):
Injuries what's hurting him?
Speaker 2 (02:19:04):
Though? YEAH i would assume. SO i think the, Second
but you're gonna get a heck of.
Speaker 4 (02:19:08):
A s quality, player onequality.
Speaker 5 (02:19:11):
Player detroit coming up next on the. Clock any direction
you think The lions need.
Speaker 4 (02:19:15):
To be going to defense and?
Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
EDGE i feel like best available at this.
Speaker 4 (02:19:21):
Point that's, honestly it's the only THING i knew About
detroit is going to go on outside of the.
Speaker 8 (02:19:26):
Ball so it could be the kid out of out Of, Alabama,
jahat it could be. Him they need a, backer but
you would, assume based on what they dealt with on
the defensive, end that they were going to get an
edge at least look to get an edge To but,
yeah the interor.
Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
Line, well, guys they ended up going WITH Tylerk williams pick.
Speaker 6 (02:19:50):
Is in From Ohio. State there you Go detroit with.
Speaker 4 (02:19:56):
Defense, yeah they Need i'm, see they're so banged up
last year they needed, help, Right they need a lot
of help on that side of the. Ball they need corner.
Help they linebackers probably where they're most. Stout but you
just you saw it as they got beat up more
and more and. More they need as much depth that
they can get over on that. Team dominant point of attack,
player very strong. HANDS i don't Think he's an outstanding pass,
(02:20:21):
rusher but you know what you're getting in terms of run.
Speaker 8 (02:20:23):
Defense, Yeah i'm shocked if they feel like that's the
best on their big board right, now that's a little
shocking to. ME i would have thought that they would
have tried to find. Somebody, uh i'd say more. QUALITY
i don't best available off the.
Speaker 4 (02:20:37):
Edge you know, what, THOUGH i don't second guess. Them All,
Right we've had a lot of times we've sat in.
There The detroit lines were like what they couldn't they
could have moved, out they could have picked him up, later,
right whether It's gibbs or the, linebacker and can't like
they have done a really good job over there drafting
when we all we've kind of all been on the
top of The holme has done a great job.
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Speaker 5 (02:21:35):
Live what a night we have, Had Draft Night live
On Fox Sports. Radio the pick is in for The Washington.
Commanders let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (02:21:48):
With the twenty ninth. Pick The Washington commanders Select Josh,
connorley junior offensive tackle or, again six foot, five three
hundred eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:21:58):
Pounds and, so, Guys i'm talking To Dan quinn this.
Morning he was one of those guys, also LIKE i
got no idea who was going to be, there all,
right he didn't think connor was going to be. THERE
i could tell you THAT i had one team in
the top Fifteen connorly with their fallback if they didn't
get the guy who they were gonna go. After. Joe
he's a guy And. Joe you could fill us more
and more About. Connorly BUT i think the value picked
(02:22:20):
there for Where washington is it's, fantastic excellent value.
Speaker 7 (02:22:24):
Pick you got this, Quarterback let's protect, him you, know
let's protect this. Asset and So, CONNORLY i Think he's
a great fit in a zone run. Scheme, REALLY i
have excellent lower body, quickness bend all. THAT i think
he needs to work on his past set. LINES i
think there's a lot of correctable things with his past pass,
protections AND i think you saw him get better when
(02:22:45):
he went down The Senior. Bowl but this guy has
a ton of, upside very, athletic and again it's in
good investment to protect your.
Speaker 8 (02:22:54):
Investment, YEAH i like to pick as. Well and, listen
they needed help all. Year Jaydon daniels was having to
move around and flee afoot from from the. Pocket they
had to move move around to mask some of the
deficiencies that.
Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
They had up.
Speaker 8 (02:23:11):
Front SO i think this is possibly a really really
strong value pick for. Them we'll have to see how
it plays, out but he most certainly is in position
to have to make an impact immediately on that, front
that offensive.
Speaker 4 (02:23:25):
Front LIKE i, said there was a Team i'm not
going to say they are but in the top fifteen
had their guy not been, there this is where they were.
Going so he's.
Speaker 8 (02:23:34):
Good i'll tell you what that he he really moved
them that my guy cups legends say he moves the.
Puppies you, know he knows how to get out, there
he knows how to get onto.
Speaker 2 (02:23:43):
Blocks i'll, defer, Obviously.
Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
Joe why not Hire? Joe, YEAH i forgot like.
Speaker 5 (02:23:48):
This.
Speaker 7 (02:23:49):
WELL i think it's because there's some questions about his pass.
Protection and, Look oregon wasn't really in drop back all that.
MUCH i think the most you saw them in dropback
was in that last game Against Ohio state when they
got down so. Much so he didn't do a. Lot but,
again you saw, him you saw him at The Senior.
Bowl he got better every. Week he had a really
(02:24:09):
rough rep against The marshall defensive end where they question blown,
up you questioned the, anchor, right but he. Improved he's.
Competitive SO i don't think, anyone like you, SAID i
don't think anyone would have been totally shocked had he
gone in the top, fifteen top. Twenty so, AGAIN i
do think this is a good pick with a lot of.
Speaker 2 (02:24:30):
Upside and by the, way The bills are.
Speaker 4 (02:24:31):
Up remember last year The bills traded the pick to The,
Chiefs And i'm, like why would you ever do? That, right,
man that's what you're trying to dig, RIGHT i don't
care who it is they call, it you don't make.
It look The bills they're gonna have making this. Selection
it'll be in the defensive side of the. BALL i
know The, chiefs AS i said, before they were trying
to trade. Up they were trying to trade up for
a defensive back as well early on that that went,
(02:24:54):
earlier and then again The bills are a gonna make
the same mistake here with The. Chiefs but The, chiefs
their guy has already. Gone so are they going? Interior?
Speaker 2 (02:25:07):
NO dB dB all. RIGHT i think Of Will, Johnson Max, Harriston, no.
Speaker 4 (02:25:12):
The kentucky, guys the one who flew up this. WEEK
i would THINK i would, THINK i don't know Side
i'm guessing on that, one to be honest with, you
are you because he's the one THAT i. Am are
You he's the one that really flew up this. Week
so that was the next GUY i.
Speaker 8 (02:25:27):
Board the name j his name the name his Name Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
Hairs.
Speaker 8 (02:25:34):
Dude but that's LIKE i knew they were. Looking, yeah
THAT'S i was thinking the same exact.
Speaker 2 (02:25:40):
Thing. JAY i was really about to, Say Maxwell.
Speaker 4 (02:25:43):
Hair you, Know i'll tell you why, too because another
team and just texted me, saying you think he'll be.
Speaker 2 (02:25:49):
There and that's.
Speaker 4 (02:25:51):
Why, Okay so it was like in my the forefront
of my brint.
Speaker 6 (02:25:55):
And jay's phone has been off the hook all. Night
the biggest in for The.
Speaker 1 (02:25:59):
Bills with the thirtieth, pick The Buffalo bills Select Maxwell,
hairstead Quarterback kentucky five, eleven one eighty three.
Speaker 2 (02:26:11):
Pounds it must be a very good. Feeling.
Speaker 8 (02:26:16):
Huh you went to the. Draft there's only three picks.
Left there you, Go i'm happy you got called like.
Speaker 6 (02:26:24):
That that's a great.
Speaker 8 (02:26:25):
Point there you, go that's a win For maxwell and
it's a win For.
Speaker 4 (02:26:30):
Buffalo you, know at first it was so funny because
two weeks ago WHEN i started really really diamond on
the guys like, this and that's WHEN i do. IT
i don't do. IT i, mean you do it here and,
there BUT i wait for everybody kind.
Speaker 2 (02:26:42):
Of starts sitting.
Speaker 4 (02:26:42):
There but, YEAH i wait for gods to start sitting their,
boards which they don't do till late, Right And joe
can tell you. This at, first guys are, like, man
we love this, guy but he's one hundred and seventy five.
Pounds By, monday he was one hundred and eighty three to,
everybody and he flew a boards and my, GOD i
thought he was so we so. Slight now all of a,
sudden he's not love his, speed love anything about. Him
(02:27:04):
he flew up like crazy just this past. Week but
it's funny how that. HAPPENED i think he was one seventy.
Three he's one seventy. Six and also now it's mid.
Eight he's not that slight many but it changed in
a week of how.
Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
Big he was to.
Speaker 8 (02:27:15):
People but it's, not you, know for, me this is
just How AND i come from a time where you,
know you had smaller guys that that played samari role
was slight and, size but could play some really really
fine football on the. EDGE i think it's all about the.
Movement and you see we're looking at the. Highlights you
(02:27:37):
guys are on the. Radio you might not be looking at,
it but when you look at his, movement he's got good.
Range he does have really good. Movement they're showing. Him
that's one thing that you like to see out of
your your secondary guys as, well is them being able
to come up and be able to make plays closer
to the, ball. Tackling that's just a lot of the tangibles. That,
(02:27:57):
look we have A Howie roseman trade trading. Up they're
going one spot and you know they're gonna have taken the. Opposite,
look they always just to take on.
Speaker 4 (02:28:08):
Them, well we can get some problem gilds in there
because the big dom they're going the other. Way the
guy we said would be the best player in this,
draft one of them if he wasn't so banged. Up
but we said it, Earlier John. Campbell that's who they're
going up. For so they trade up one pick there
with The. Chiefs but, again now it's kind of The chiefs, going,
man why are we doing anything with? Them the ones
who knocked us off in The Super? Bowl same exact thick,
(02:28:30):
like don't do business With King. Kong, yeah that's it,
feels don't do business With King. Gods they just flop.
Picks and if they do take jo and by the,
way they're gonna go offensive line The chiefs if they.
Stay but they are taking calls right now about actually
moving down That, yeah that pick getting, out but they're,
(02:28:50):
talking they're talking offensive tackle here if they.
Speaker 6 (02:28:53):
Stay so The eagles trade that number number one.
Speaker 4 (02:28:58):
Gamble with their pick the opposite of what, again it's,
like you know, what let's get Big dombin break. Here
let's go with a great, guy and, yeah this guy
had he not been banged. Up and it's also somebody
they're they're deep on. Defense they could sit and wait
for him to hell yeah, right and they can. INVEST
i love that for.
Speaker 7 (02:29:14):
THEM i thought they they hit a home run when
they signed The saints. Linebacker And i'm drawing a blank
on his, name but he had an unbelievable season for
them this, year SO i THINK i think that's gonna
be a good. Pick but a little bit more On Max,
harrison BECAUSE i agree with, You, LeVar like one hundred and.
Seven he's, wiry BUT i didn't think he played. WEAK
(02:29:35):
i thought he played physical at the line of scrimmage and.
PRESS i THOUGHT i thought he would strike you as a.
TACKLER i think he needs to clean up a lot
of his tackling. TECHNIQUE i think there's some angles there.
Bad but when you watch That texas game early in
the year and you see him the recovery burst that
he had against those Fast texas Receiver you're like, wow
and then he has a pick six Against. TOLEDO i
(02:29:55):
believe where it's like a combine drill and he shot
out of a. Cannon so this is this is another
big upside. PICK i think there's some things to clean,
up but, uh BUT i THINK i think he's very
worthy of this selection for The.
Speaker 4 (02:30:07):
Bills by the, way, KIDS i was accurate also saying
this draft will be first round over round eight.
Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
Thirty he. Did and The chiefs right now they're.
Speaker 4 (02:30:14):
Taking calls about moving out of the. Spot if they,
don't they're gonna be locked, in like laying an offensive
lineman here on offensive. Tackle but, yeah it's.
Speaker 8 (02:30:22):
It's, close but no. Cigar, yeah but that's the only
thing LOVER.
Speaker 4 (02:30:28):
I said thirty's it won't be in eight. Four it would.
Be it will, be, hey but unless unless the trade is.
Made but, man the joe back in the, Day i've
sat in. It i've sat in The saints draft for one.
Year and you want to talk about not BEING adhd.
Conducive oh my. God there were three picks that. Day
(02:30:50):
he used to be all of them one, day, Right
but three picks that, day and then you, know four
through through seven the day after. That and also the
first ROUND i think was was it twenty minutes a
pick fIF teen Twenty Forget, forever, Right, yeah oh my,
god it.
Speaker 2 (02:31:04):
Was it was.
Speaker 4 (02:31:05):
Brutal and then.
Speaker 6 (02:31:06):
How is that mental focus for that?
Speaker 7 (02:31:08):
Long you just got to stay locked? IN i mean
it was over two, days Like jay, said so you
knew that first day was just going to be an absolute,
grind and then you get to the second day and it's, just,
uh once the drafts, over your day's just. Begun because
now you're rolling into undrafted free. Agency, yeah when do
you guys start calling?
Speaker 2 (02:31:25):
Them?
Speaker 7 (02:31:26):
What what round you're? Calling you're calling them On, Saturday
you're Calling you're you're you're what you're, Not you're, Fifth
you're not making the deal with these, guys but you're
you're recruiting them starting On monday for these undrafted free.
Speaker 8 (02:31:38):
Agency you're A celsius, guy are? You are you all
gone off Of? Celsius do you GET iv a?
Speaker 4 (02:31:45):
Coffee?
Speaker 2 (02:31:46):
Coffee do?
Speaker 8 (02:31:47):
You when?
Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
You BUT i don't like THAT a heart rate just
it makes me feel. Funny you like cool coffee going
into the vein or hot? Coffee hot? Yours?
Speaker 4 (02:31:57):
Earlier, YEAH i remember also being in. There i'll never.
Forget Bruce allen had called at some point and to
The saints try and trade up the like Sober bruce
trying to trade up for, You you're looking like you're
trying to trade trade up And bruce is, like, No
i'm actually just, bored. Man i'm just, like who would
do that with?
Speaker 2 (02:32:16):
You what guys do that with?
Speaker 6 (02:32:17):
You?
Speaker 7 (02:32:17):
Yeah, so When John dorsey was the general manager for The,
browns you, know you'd always get that that, call, uh
whether it's a trade deadline or you're on the, Pick
like as soon as the clock would go four oh
one on the trade, Deadline, Hey i'll give. You i'll
give you the three first round picks for that about
Immediately you're like and then and then you get you're
(02:32:39):
on the, Clock you're getting ready to go on the
clock And John john would call you.
Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
Up what are you? Doing what are you? Doing what
are you? Doing i'm we're, Working, John what are you?
Doing what are you? Doing who do you?
Speaker 5 (02:32:52):
Doing do you have any other crazy stories about the
experience that the jump out that you can share with the.
Speaker 7 (02:32:58):
World just you, know it's it's like you're talking about
When jay's talking about all these teams that are trying
to trade up and try and trade. BACK i go
back to that twenty twenty two, draft LIKE i mentioned,
before and we had two picks in the first in
the top, ten and then we get to the point where,
it's uh where we're picked fourteen and we still have
a top ten, player and you're just smiling and. Dialing
(02:33:20):
you're just getting on the phone looking for anyone to
make a trade with. You and so that that was
that was LIKE i felt like that was an hour
and a half worth of phone. Calls so that that
that wore you. Out but by.
Speaker 4 (02:33:32):
The, way eight thirty Seven chiefs just made the. Pick
you're Off chiefs. Forty No chiefs made. It they've already made.
It just made, it or at least they just texted
me that they're. TAKING i just got to call. It they're,
GONNA i told their offensive. Tackle so it's going to be,
like you know what's, Right i'm not gonna Say i'll
Let it'll let the LAST i think take.
Speaker 2 (02:33:51):
It you had it at thirty seven, though so there you.
GO i got thirty. Seven the drafts officially.
Speaker 4 (02:33:56):
Over, yeah they're gonna end up put their offensive line
and they weren't able to make the, freed so they're
gonna end up going offensive.
Speaker 8 (02:34:02):
Lineman it'll over under do they Show Shador sanders before
they go off of the.
Speaker 4 (02:34:07):
Telegencis, remember, GUYS i didn't come in here today AND
i didn't see anybody take him in the first. ROUND
i didn't see anybody taking to do in the first.
Round you don't want to say it because you don't
know for, sure like, hey you know what we, hey
we we didn't think you would be over here at twenty.
Eight we're gonna go up and get. Him SO i
didn't want to say it defendively BECAUSE i don't all
it takes his one. TEAM i said. IT i told
(02:34:28):
it to you. TODAY i told her, you, GUYS i
just didn't see it coming.
Speaker 8 (02:34:32):
In have we ever heard of a guy being rated
where or projected where they say he's a number?
Speaker 2 (02:34:37):
Three like people Were.
Speaker 9 (02:34:39):
Rady, Quinn Aaron rodgers And, Rogers AND i remember Telling
Aaron rodgers agent the day, Before, hey, LISTEN i just
want you to like temper what you say to, him
BECAUSE i don't have him, inside LIKE.
Speaker 4 (02:34:58):
I, SAID i have The chiefs and possibly chiefs some
fifteen and The? Packers was it twenty? Twenty what Was
aaron twenty twenty? Two whatever WAS i? Said that twenty.
FOUR i, said that's the only, ones and this dude
literally says To, Aaron, hey this is the guy who
says you're not gonna. Go i'm, like hey, Man i'm
trying to help you. Out i'm trying to help you
out so you don't look like an idiot in front
(02:35:18):
of your. Client and that's exactly what. Happened and you
got to be careful because guys get, upset they get,
mad and then you get blamed for. It and the
crazier things have.
Speaker 2 (02:35:27):
Happened you have you sad fall out of the first round.
Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
Twenty four AND i didn't have him any work except
the only teams that we talked about were The chiefs
and The. PACKERS i just remember this guy kind of
throwing me onto the bus with. Him i'm, Like i'm
trying to help, you and that's what you. Get AND
i never talked to that guy.
Speaker 5 (02:35:43):
Again oh, BOY i don't want to ever be on
that side Of. Jay let's get to the pick for The.
Speaker 1 (02:35:48):
Eagles with the thirty first, pick The Philadelphia eagles Select Johan,
campbell Linebacker alabama six three two ran thirty five.
Speaker 8 (02:36:00):
Pounds nice about, that eleven, Man, YEAH i know. You
so you got you Got Abdul, carter you Got Jaylen,
walker and now you Got Jehi. Campbell all of it's
something about them. Sticks, Man it's just such something special about.
You got to do special things when you wear them double.
STICKS i thought about him for like a team like The, ravens.
(02:36:22):
RIGHT i thought about him FOR tv.
Speaker 7 (02:36:25):
The benefit in situations like this all the, time The
ravens and The. Eagles this guy was their best rusher.
Speaker 2 (02:36:30):
Too this guy is. Animal they just got. Nastier.
Speaker 8 (02:36:35):
Man oh my, Gosh i'm a boast of.
Speaker 6 (02:36:38):
Riches well throughout the first round of the.
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Speaker 4 (02:37:35):
Sports, hey before we go, ANYWHERE i just want to,
say this is MY i started in two thousand and,
four my twenty first. DRAFT i Think Fox Sports radio twenty.
First jenny Graft, bro thank, you thank. YOU i look fantastic,
Canoe yes he, does.
Speaker 2 (02:37:53):
Carried away.
Speaker 4 (02:37:57):
AND i love. This this is like man gonna, say
my guys take care of. ME i appreciate the trust
that build. Up But Jenny tafft you crusted it. Absolutely thank.
Speaker 6 (02:38:08):
You, well you guys made it. EASY i kind of
like the. Applause this is a radio for.
Speaker 4 (02:38:14):
FUN i always loved going with you To dude And.
JOE i was just having a hard time looking at
you because of the sexonists intimidated.
Speaker 6 (02:38:25):
Today, No, joe how did you put?
Speaker 5 (02:38:26):
It when we were in break you, said maybe not
more fun than than the, draft but different and exhilarating
in a different.
Speaker 7 (02:38:32):
Way, yeah just as, fun a lot less, stress but
a lot of fun and this was just being with
you guys has been JUST i can't say enough good.
Speaker 4 (02:38:41):
Things. Fantastic we loved having you. Out, YEAH i appreciate, it,
MAN i appreciate you having. It and also when you,
go you, know go back in wherever you're gonna, GO
i think you'll have more of an appreciation for what
we do as. Well and you see even the pressure
stress we go through for this one, day and it's obviously,
different so it's the stress you have is totally completely
different when we work our butts.
Speaker 7 (02:39:01):
Off there's also look at that notepad right. THERE i
don't have a, hieroglyphic both of, them both of.
Speaker 4 (02:39:05):
Them not only, that look at this these notes Mean
rosie was jotting down stuff for me yesterday while we
were driving in the. Car this is WHAT i need
to do moving on BECAUSE i could read everything she.
Said oh that's.
Speaker 5 (02:39:17):
Good watch, Out, rosie she might have another, gig you, Know,
LaVar i've been wanting to ask you the whole, night
what you got your favorite memory from the, Draft, like
what do you? Remember is there a moment that sticks
with you because it's just such a powerful. Moment we
see these players with their families and the. Experience like
what stands out to you.
Speaker 8 (02:39:35):
My, obviously the easy answer is being with your. FAMILY
i had a ton of. Family, there a ton of,
coaches childhood, coaches high.
Speaker 4 (02:39:46):
School did they stress you or They is it? Good?
Speaker 8 (02:39:49):
NO i thought it. WAS i thought it was really.
Good they were everybody was really excited and really. HAPPY
i was, Tired LIKE i, SAID i was tired because
there was so much nego sating and posturing going. On they're,
like you gotta be signable or we're gonna take you
at three That there's a lot going. On BUT i
will say probably outside of, that the favorite moment was
(02:40:12):
that was the first TIME i drove in LIKE i
believe it was A Rolls. Royce it was like a private.
Car then it took us to a private just the
first TIME i flew.
Speaker 2 (02:40:24):
Private THEN i got.
Speaker 4 (02:40:26):
Off is the first TIME i flew on a.
Speaker 8 (02:40:28):
HELICOPTER a helicoptered us over me And Chris samuels Over, WASHINGTON,
Dc maryland And, virginia landed us In landover and the fan.
BASE i gotta, say the reception was, unbelievable the reception
that we, Got so that was definitely probably the biggest
(02:40:50):
memorable moment was it was like an instant, Imprinting like
we imprinted on one, another the fans and myself we
imprinted that day and it was.
Speaker 2 (02:40:59):
A pretty cool love a Fear joe Till dan messed it.
Up but that's a whole another.
Speaker 4 (02:41:04):
Issue, joe what's the coolest draft call you? Made should
tell someone they got.
Speaker 7 (02:41:09):
Drafted, man there's been a few of, them but any
one of them where they're just freaking, out the family
just going berserk in the. Background, yeah that call that
called a sauce was. Special they called It. GARRETT i, mean.
Speaker 4 (02:41:26):
Just why.
Speaker 7 (02:41:30):
There's one in, Particular. JERMAINE i Remember jermaine because of
the work that went into trading up to get. Them
but then Also i'll never Forget Jermaine john'm talking About Jermaine.
Johnson he walked out on the thirty. Visit he, goes
trade up to get, me and you won't be you
won't be. Disappointed. Now he thought he thought we were
going to trade up from, three not from the second.
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Round BUT i just, said, hey, man remember remember you
said trade up to get.
Speaker 2 (02:41:58):
You we kept it in. Context we traded up to get.
Speaker 4 (02:42:01):
You much fun of The. Jets anybody make you cheer?
Speaker 7 (02:42:04):
Up, NO i mean you you kind of get emotional
when you hear them get emotional and just just being
able to even share their experience because you know how
much time and effort they put in to hit this,
checkpoint you, know and it's just a, beginning but it's
a major.
Speaker 5 (02:42:21):
Milestone and it sounds, cliche but it's really these dreams
that the families have, had that the player has, had and.
Speaker 6 (02:42:28):
It's dreams coming.
Speaker 5 (02:42:28):
True and it is it's so corny to say that out,
loud but watching it every, year it never gets old
because it's the start of something. Special and you, KNOW
i maybe hate to bring it up off, that but
we didn't See shadur in the first, round now.
Speaker 6 (02:42:43):
Don't we don't know where he's going to. Go it's
it's a unique, place right.
Speaker 4 (02:42:46):
And again that you know team that needed, quarterback one
of The giants got. One, right you're sitting there, going,
okay who else needs? You Obviously, cleveland The, Saints. STEELERS
i just you, know AGAIN i DIDN'T i doubted that
he would go in the first round coming Into but, also,
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GUYS i just want to go to. This remember we
started our show something we never thought we would And
cleveland kept this under wraps and jack somewhat kept it under.
Wraps you heard rumors of. It, well we started today
with our opening segment The Jacksonville jaguars and a blockbuster
trader moving up to Take Travis hunter from The Cleveland
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browns moving back For Mason, graham which we didn't see
that point. Either and that is what you love about the.
Draft it's the greatest reality show on the planet when
things like that. Happened but kudos to bost of those
guys because they kept it under wraps AND i was
told they had the parameters worked. OUT i was told.
Weeks they've had it worked out for.
Speaker 6 (02:43:43):
Weeks that's shocking that it was held that. Close it really,
is no.
Speaker 8 (02:43:48):
DOUBT i, mean just the think would you have thought
coming into the Day Travis hunter Being.
Speaker 4 (02:43:54):
Jackville, no not at, all, Right no one had not
on their mock.
Speaker 6 (02:43:57):
Draft maybe one of, them but no one of. Us,
that not one of us any.
Speaker 4 (02:44:02):
Other that's how we started, today which is big.
Speaker 6 (02:44:04):
Name, yeah really really.
Speaker 4 (02:44:06):
WILD i think the other most shocking thing to me
Is atlanta moving. UP i knew what they've thought About
pierce giving up one eventually to move up to get.
Him WAS i think a shock for me, There but
it also goes to show with these gms you're convicted
about and the head coaches you're convicted, about, somebody you
don't care what any of us. Think you're gonna go get,
them do what you want to. DO i don't know
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anything else shocked you guys.
Speaker 6 (02:44:27):
Here any misses as well or anyone will see right?
Speaker 8 (02:44:30):
Away oh, no, Nothing there's no misses that jump out
at me because they were all.
Speaker 2 (02:44:35):
Pretty, safe pretty safe. Pick so great.
Speaker 4 (02:44:38):
Job that's gonna do it for.
Speaker 6 (02:44:40):
Us Draft Night live On Sports. RADIO i really appreciate.
It For Jay, Glazer LeVar, Arrington Joe.
Speaker 5 (02:44:46):
Douglas behind the, scenes we Had Shay Eliza, Sagor Vito
alex our executive Producer JUSTIN i really enjoyed This Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (02:44:55):
Radio thanks for. Listening Draft Night. Live that's a. Wrap
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