April 25, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington react to Shedeur Sanders falling out of the first round. USA Today NFL Reporter Tyler Dragon joins the guys to explain why the Giants chose to trade up for Jaxson Dart. Plus, the guys react live as a 3rd quarterback is taken over Shedeur!
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Hey man, we walked to you.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Now get ready to see the draft stars now again
the second round, so we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We obviously, you know everybody have eyes on it.
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Speaker 4 (03:33):
Alex is our engineer, Ryan is our producer. Rob g
still has what four more weeks? I don't know is
he coming back or is he working at the ESPN.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He said, the minute he gets one a one dollar
more offer, he's out.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
He did say that. My goodness, but I got I got,
I got at least a dollar. You put a dollar up,
we'll beat that off, all right, dollar ten, yep, dollar ten,
we'll get him back.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Steve the Segers at the anchor desk. He'll keep us
updated throughout the program. And of course, Elijah Elijah is
our social media guru. I know he was busy yesterday
with the draft and the live show and everything, and
the everybody did well yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And then that brings us to the draft. Let's start there.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And obviously Shador Sanders not drafted in the first round.
And I gotta tell you, you know, I've been covering sports
for almost forty years. I thought the coverage by NFL
analyst former play was atrocious. I thought it was atrocious.
And I'll tell you why drafting is not an exact science. Okay,
(04:42):
they made it as if two and two is like
the draft was two and two.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Was five, and then went like, oh, it's not, it's four,
Like how.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Could you miss that?
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Like, how did you miss that? That was the reaction.
And my point is.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They don't get it right all the time. We talked
about it all the time. This wasn't some memo passed
by Roger Goodell. Put your door Sanders.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
In his place. Don't draft them right. People want to
make it a race thing.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh my god, if you're a black, cocky guy, Kim
Ward's cocky and me, yeah, okay, did kim Ward get
drafted first? Come on, man, don't do that. Don't throw
it out there. If it ain't real, and we can
talk about all the guys. And you notice, because we've
(05:42):
been over this list of guys who were drafted not
in the first round. Yeah, where Jalen Hurts second round,
Drew Brees who's going to the Hall of Fame, second round,
Russell Wilson has a chance at a third, Dad Prescott
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fourth round, Kirk Cousin's fourth round, Tom Brady's sixth round,
brock Purty seventh round. Stop this whole idea as if
it was a birthright for him. And here's the other thing,
Kelvin that really bothered me. Do you really believe that
general managers and coaches who are trying to hold on
(06:24):
to their gig deliberately passed over him. Why can't Why
can't they honestly think that he's just not on that
caliber that they don't want to spend a first round
draft pick. They could wind up wrong, and they've been
wrong on people.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And that's my argument.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And the last thing is this Kyle Brand, is that
his name from NFL network. Does he not know he
went off on the whole anonymous quote thing. Some of
the greatest journalism done in this country are of you,
not anonymous quote.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In all factors, like anything in life, any.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Where you get somebody to honestly tell you what's going
on with without the fear of retribution, but by putting
their name on it. It is a part of journalism,
especially if you know who you're getting the information from,
and your editors or your outlet or your bosses know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It ain't like I talked to a bum at the
bottle at the end of the corner and he gave
me some quote about the president.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'm gonna run with it. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, the pick is in right now or Cleveland. I
want to see what they're gonna do because this may
we might, we might all of a sudden. Can t
neever continue conversation. Yeah, but my point still is there
was no reason for people to react like that because
he didn't get drafted.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So you you bring up a lot of points that
I definitely can understand. I definitely agree. The only side
of this that I'll add to is I think that's
part of why it's almost like any voting here in
the last cup few presidential elections, why you get one
side that's completely well, this makes sense, why would I
not vote for Joe Biden because blah blah blah. And
if you look at the track recor god, blah blah blah,
(08:13):
are you serious we need something new? I'm going for
Donald Trump because blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And the reason I say that is two months ago.
This is why some people are flabbergasted Robins because he
was a top five pick.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Most people say who that was. Dion said that a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Of people were saying that he's gonna be one of
the first quarterbacks to go, he'll be the It was
just a conversation that he'll be a high pick, top one,
I mean, top five, top seven pick. And for a
while there that was kind of just what was out there.
And then you started to see again the productivity on
the field. Now this is before people start to say, well,
the arn't isn't big enough. Well, the Actressy's there, but
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it's only because he's throwing the Travis Hunter. And so
I think that's why you get some people say, no,
he's just not necessarily what we need. He's not a
top he's not a first round draft pick. And that's okay,
but I think some people are again confused and flabbering
ass to be like, well, where did this all of
a sudden come for the matter of a handful of weeks.
But there's not an exact signe I'm breaking down. And
(09:10):
here here's here, I'm sorry who they pick. They got
linebacker Carson Schweisen girl from U C.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
L A.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That is who the Browns have picked with their first
pick here in the second round, calling them a tackling machine.
And you know, so you got kind of a linebacker
who can make some plays there, so they're clearly going defense.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And here's the other thing too. There were there were
like three teams that needed a quarterback and they all
passed on them. And that that's what I'm like, Like
the Steelers at twenty one. Uh, the Browns had to
shot the Giants before the Giant and they all passed
on And the Giants even drafted up and around and
the Saint there was another.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, the Saints is the one that was kind of
interesting and none of them wanted them.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, and now again circling back Cleveland didn't want them again.
You give me a second time around, So that is
saying something but here, so here's my couple of points
real quick. I think I mentioned That's why I think
it was confusing for some people is again because we
had him as this highly ranked and highly you know,
high prospect going into the NFL draft for most of
(10:13):
the season, and all of a sudden that was you know,
that started to change when we seen him a couple
of times go up against high caliber quarterbacks. He matched
that we talk about when he went up against Caleb
Williams Heisman winner, and obviously he ended up having a
good season before he was drafted number one overall. He
dueled him back and forth, it went back and forth,
it went. So I think that was a part of
(10:33):
also why it was a bit confusing. But here's the
thing with Shador Sanders. Him being drafted in the first
round was not a guarantee. Him being drafted in the
first round was not the worst thing that's gonna happen
to him. If he's drafted in this round or the
third round, it's all right. You add the fuel to
the fire. If you believe in yourself, like I know
that he does, you take this and you make it work.
(10:55):
We mentioned all these quarterbacks who didn't get drafted when
they thought they would have and thought they should have.
So you use this as motivation you continue to work hard.
And by the way, this ain't when you get the
real money. The real money is your next contract. If
you ball out, whether you're sixth round, first round, brock
Perty's about to get some real money.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He wasn't making no money, you get what I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So I understand you wanted to be first round, but
if you end up being picked here in the second
round se la vi, such as life, you move on
and you make doubters of people.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You had a little bit of fuel to it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But again it's the idea that because there were speculating,
there were plenty of people didn't think he was a
first round pick either. I agree Dion said it early
and then other people whatever, But there are plenty of
people who I heard not And this is what I
said to you yesterday and the day before that. There
was too much theme about him not being you know
(11:46):
what I mean. Remember, I was like, there's just way
too much conversation. This isn't one person, and even the
anonymous quote, the one thing that people look at all, well,
this is about because he's in a confident black Man.
I read the entire quote. At the end of it
he did say the worst interview or whatever. I get
all that he said. And then the bottom line is
(12:09):
he's not that good. That that ultimately so because somebody
doesn't have the same intel or opinion of an evaluation,
not of look at shoe Hail Tani's numbers and say
he's not the MVP.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Do you see it?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
This is an evaluation of a guy who hasn't played.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And I still think one of the more understated things
we've said it, We've mentioned it. Not a lot of
teams needed a quarterback. Now some teams are riding with
quarterbacks that aren't that great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I can I can point out eighteens right now that
you know, just on paper, you could be like Trevor
Lawrence not okay, y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What's the idea that? But didn't want them? Says Volumes.
It does Pittsburgh absolutely unless they still the Saints. The Saints.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That to me was the more nobody kept talking about
twenty one with burg I kept saying the Saints and
that Derek car.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
How shocked will you be honest like or.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
No, I was not that shock based off what we've
been saying, and you've been You've been making a great
point of it. It just was there was no intail,
There was an inkling. There wasn't a uh kind of
whisper about it on paper. If I just me and
you sitting in a bar and I say, hey, the
Saints they need a quarterback, they need to start something,
get something building. But what we heard in reporting wise,
(13:28):
you didn't hear peep. So that was why I was like, well,
it can't be the Saints. But if I look at
the Saints, I look at Carolina and say, well, you're
already was ready to get rid of Bryce Young. Now
he had a you know, solid few games at the end,
are they like, no, there's our future. So you can
make a case for a handful of teams, which ultimately
comes down to they just don't believe he's good enough,
and maybe they did not like his interviewing.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
By the way, that two things can't be true.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Folks can believe now he ain't that good, especially for
me not thinking he has the right temperament. Now I
might not agree, you might might they not agree, But
if they feel that two things can't be true because
you know it goes. You can say, ah, he's kind
of a little confident, a little too much that I like,
But dang, he is a Aaron Luck talent. I think
I would make that exception for that. But if you're
(14:14):
already kind of talent, I don't not really bind. If
he's first round talent. By the way, he can be
mid second round, and that's not bad. But it's not
the worst thing ago, But it's not the end of
the world. If in the next seven eight picks here
he goes and he's in the top thirty five to
(14:36):
forty five picks of seven.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Round on Cleveland didn't pick him.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's a little like yeah, but then they got another
pick here coming up too. But that that would to
me be like, all right, so it wasn't the worst
thing in the world to happen to you. You know,
Cleveland's coming right back around here again. Uh what at
the thirty six pick.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because because.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I caught some other reports saying that being drafted the
second I wasn't a guarantee for him either. Well, clearly,
I mean again, because it's not as all of a
sudden they have quarterback needs like these teams that feel
like they don't need a quarterback, feel like they don't need.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
A quarterback might because they would have grabbed one exactly
felt like.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And it wasn't a quarterback draft anyway.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
There wasn't like seven quarterbacks who are gonna go in
the first forty five picks or anything?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 5 (15:26):
Uh, where are you on the Shadoor Sanders?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Was he not drafted in the first round because people
didn't think he was good enough? Or there's some conspiracy?
Are you on a conspiracy train? Or like I am?
I just think it was the evaluation that they really
felt like he wasn't because there were three teams obviously
that could have looked at him.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
As Saints are the Aints right now, and I thought
that might be something. In Sielsburgh, Mason Rudolph is their
starting quarterback right now.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
They don't have Aaron Rodgers in the fold and they
don't have anything, all right, eight seven seven ninety nine
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one that can get his son to be drafted higher
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Speaker 1 (17:19):
All right, let's get to the call. A lot of
people want to jump in on this conspiracy or just talent.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I do know what you mean. Randy, Randy and New.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:33):
What's up, Yo?
Speaker 9 (17:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
How are you? Randy? What's up? Buddy?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
I've always been what I hear from y'all. Man. We
talked last week and you were talking about, you know,
sheduring what should be doing the draft, and I called
in and I said he was a third to fort
round talent. Now it sounds kind of crazy coming from
a nobody, just a sports guy, but the height train
been ruling for the last two years. When it comes
(18:02):
down to Door in Colorado, I'll just say this. You
that a guy named Dank Pitscott that played for Mississippi State. Ye,
and I watched him have unbelievable a couple of years
in the SEC. He even brought Mississippi State up to
number one, I believe.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
I found to number four in the draft and nobody
said a word. Yep, right Door Sanders had a twelve
and thirteen or thirteen or twelve k or something like
that in Colorado. What have they done?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I know everybody call them Yeah, my only countter. I
don't appreciate appreciate you, Randy. I don't think anybody should
be crowned like as if he was, you know, out
there looking like the return of Peyton Manning. But I
do think what we saw him do with a help, dude,
he was literally running for his life most of his
time at Colorado, and it's still be that productive. I
think was impressive.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
To me.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Mike in New York, you're on the couple from My
Life Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
What's up, Mike? Hey, how you doing doing great?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know?
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I actually think he is a talent, wise a first
round talent. I think he's one of the most accurate
quarterbacks in the draft. I think he h showed the
ability to handle pressure because his line finn and block
all season. He showed he was elusive. I don't think
he's a bad guy. I think he might be boisterous.
I think the biggest liability and why.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
He didn't get drafted in the first round is his father.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And soon that please well, well, I say that because
imagine you're the coach and you take him and it
starts going bad.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
What's gonna happen.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
They're gonna be asking Dion what's going on. Dion's going
to be like, well, my son's not being utilized properly.
And then people are going to be calling for the
coach's job and wanting Diam coach that team as soon as.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
That goes, Mike, Mike, Mike, let me throw this at
you though, Mike, I hear you. I want to I
want to count that. What about when Eli and Archie
Manning jumped in. Argie Manning from the very jump jumped in,
you better not draft my son. He ain't gonna play there.
He's not the only father who has been now he's
he's bigger than.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
That he has. He is a coach, he's got TV shows.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But we've had plenty of fathers who are out there screening.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But I will say this, and they go.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
To ask Manning to coach your team. No fans are
going to be calling for him to coach the team.
Fans are crazy. Your fans are going to be booing
the coach for two losses and in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Mike, thank you. We're appreciated.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
The only reason I'm gonna say one thing is the
reason that nobody after the first with Tim Tebow, nobody
wanted him because of the remember.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
That the fans and everything always Yeah, there was just
too much around him to really want because because they
all knew he's a backup and he's not a star,
and they're all gonna want him to play.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I just say, all right, Uh, let's go to Jeff
in Montana.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You're in the odd couple of Fox sportuating, Hey, guys,
that was going doing good?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Oh wonderful? I'm kind of a dreaming with the last guy.
I think that there's there's so much treasure with the
old man and his power that it might turn into
like a LaMelo ball fame, or that he's got this
guy that can get on any radio or TV show
he wants and can air dirty laundry, and that might
not be good for the locker.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I don't. I think y'all given Dion a little bit
once more. Power Cloud.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He's a big time but he's a Hall of fame
out a doubt. He's a big name, and and they
all know I'm not that I do, But I'm just
saying like, maybe it's more than we just don't think
he's that great.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Maybe we think he's solid a third or fourth.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Rounds because I don't get that mostly that that they
really don't think he's.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Because let's say he was Jaydon Daniels, but his dad
was Dion Dion Daniels that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Admit, like like the our ball thing was just out
of like out of wat it just.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And LaMelo got drafted what was he first or second pick? Yeah, exactly.
They got conned into that.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, but I'm but I'm saying, like, because LaMelo is
really good when he's healthy, LaMelo is an all star.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If he's good, if he if they viewed him as
that great, they'd be like, Dean will use this to
our adventage.
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(22:53):
was hanging out with the Rams at their draft facility,
which we did a story on it at Spectrum News
one where the day time job here for me where
they were at the la FD right, a fire department,
Tyler right.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Yeah, it was a great scene in a great environment
at the fire department there and a baniye. We got
to tour the facility. The firefighters very gracious, obviously they
went through a lot this year in January. But and
props to the Rams too. They have renovated part of
(23:25):
the fire station, their breakroom and their rest room with couches,
TVs and things like that. So it was just a
great environment and really was the climax of the Rams
day one draft because they traded out with their first
round pick. So it was a good day overall though, Well.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
They had to have a setup like that, we're gonna
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Speaker 1 (24:00):
I drafted already in the second round, a couple of
picks of gone by. I know you were high on him,
but it looks like a lot of people in the
NFL were, especially teams that needed quarterbacks. Giants took a quarterback,
not your door. Steelers passed on them. They need a quarterback,
and the Saints with the injury right need a quarterback
and they passed on them.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Surprised quarterback.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
I was very surprised that the Saints passed on him.
I was probably even more surprised at the Giants willingness
to move back up into the first round to get
Jackson Dart. I mean to do was my second rateed
quarterback in this year's draft. To me, he's better than
Jackson Dart. I think the Giants are going to regret
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that decision. And I get it that he doesn't have
the tremendous arm strengths. He's not the best athlete of
all the quarterbacks, but when he turned on the tape,
he is easily the second best quarterback in this year's draft.
He's the accurate passer. He rose receivers open throwers, are
a precision. He's comfortable in the pocket, and he revitalized
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the Jackson State football program. Along with Travis Hunder and
his dad, Dean of course, and then look what he
did at Colorado, broke single season records and passed the
yards and so on. So that's to me as a
first round So.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Why do you think that he wasn't like a sniff
from anybody?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mean, I hear your case for him, But obviously
it wasn't just one team or two teams that passed
on him.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
You know, af the whole league passed on him in
the first round.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
What do you well, when I look at this year's
quarterback class, there was really only one quarterback where everybody
knew was a consensus first round quarterback, and that's Cam Moore.
And to me, Jackson Dart and Shador Sanders. Those quarterbacks
even Tyler took, people were thinking that they were maybe
(25:51):
second round talent. But teams reached for quarterbacks all the
time in the first round. So in my opinion, teams
like the things the Giants, they just looked at his
overall talent as far as athleticism, as far as his
arm strength, and they just aren't overly impressed by it.
When I look at team like the Pittsburgh Steelers, they
(26:12):
got a premier defensive tackle and Harmon, they're available in
the first round, and maybe they got some intel that
Chador was gonna drop to round two. The Steelers don't
have a round three pick, but I'm hearing that they're
gonna try to straight up into the second round. Uh,
and maybe they can get Shador there. But it will
be a surprise to me if the Door does not
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get drafted.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I was gonna ask you if you don't get drafts
in the second rounds.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I mean, what the the thing about it is?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Like, I mean, if you start to look Tyler Robin,
I had this conversation.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Not everybody needs a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
They're still early in the draft, so people still have, Hey,
here's that offensive lineman we need, here's our game plan,
or if you look at what Cleveland's.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Doing, somebody who can the team right away.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Cleveland is clearly locking in defensively. They said, if we
can just dominate on this side of the ball, we've
got some offensive piece here there. We'll figure out the rest.
But maybe we'll just be great on the defensive side
of the ball. And I say that to say some
teams may be doing that. Hey we're just gonna continue
to stockpile receivers, or we're gonna be great on the
defensive side of ball. You mess around and look up,
he might not get drafted in a second, because again,
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there's team teams that just simply don't need a quarterback
or are hanging on to middling quarterback like a Bryce Young,
like a Trevor Lawrence. We don't know what the Saints
are doing, you know what I mean, where it's like, well,
why would they pick him right now? You know, when
they seem to be invested into something else? But were
there any other storylines? Any other headlines? Rob and I
was talking about this last week. I mean, my guys,
(27:39):
I don't know if I've ever remember a draft where
there's like one and a half storylines right at all,
Like literally, you usually get about five or six.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You had to earn your money for USA today doing
this drafts. Like, boy, he was making up some stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Wasn't he.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, Travis Hunder, his teammate, was a storyline. I mean,
look what the Jaguars did. They I mean pretty much
mortgage the farm to move up to number two to
draft him. And he's going to play primarily receiver, is
what the Jaguars are saying. And they're gonna sprinkle him
in on defense. So really, Jacksonville, that's been a sleepy franchise.
(28:15):
And yes, I know they have Trevor Lawrence, but to me,
Travis Hunter, he can immediately become the face of the franchise,
the most popular player in that franchise, and ease some
of the pressure off of Trevor Lawrence. So that's a
huge storyline to me. And then the two running backs
that get drafted in the first round aston genty. I
(28:38):
believe it's gonna really do really well in Las Vegas,
especially with Pete Carroll. Then you have Amar and Hampton
with the La Chargers. You know, Jim Harball likes to
run the football, and so the running back position isn't
devalued anymore. With two running backs went early in the
first round, and then another running back in Judkins, went
(28:59):
off the board already in round two. So yeah, so
there's some storylines. I mean, maybe this draft isn't as
sexy as a year's past, but there are storylines.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He's trying. That was some good USA today.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
But one more right now, one more Todler real quick,
because and you brought it up the other day.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, Tom Brady loves Chador. He was there for the
taking with the Raider. Well, how was there any chance
of that? You know what I mean? Because it's like
a mentor to him to and he's even Brady didn't
take him.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Well, see, the Raiders, they had the number six pick
and they needed a running back. There the worst rushing
offense in the NFL last season, So I get them
selecting Astion Genc. Now the Raiders are coming up in
round two. They have a mid round two pick. We'll
see if they can draft schaedor there. The Saints that
they have a mid round two pick, they can draft them.
(29:54):
So I get why the Raiders passed on him because
of that number six pick. When you have a probably
uh top running back, arguably the best running back in
this year's draft, and you have a course rushing offense,
So I get it, and the race opportunity to get
him around too.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
All right, Yeah, we're gonna Watchler because you know why
we're gonna watch Tyler because ain't nothing else to watch
for it Tyler.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
That's why tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well you know what I meant in the NFL, drivet
boy out there making up stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
He's too lake a home where they got to listen
to get off off phone. I think I think Roger
Goodell was like, hey, do me a favorite league. Can
y'all just not draft to do?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Or why?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Because ain't nothing else to talk about? Won't you take them?
If you're taking what else we're gonna do for the
next six rounds? That's that conspiracy theory right there. Thank you, Tyler,
Appreciate it, Hoddy, have.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
A great weekend, of course, thanks later.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
All right, play that out for me, Ryan and Rob
and Steve. He gets drafted second, third, four, fifth, whatever?
What else are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Steve? We would be he saved? What else?
Speaker 12 (30:53):
Your co host already addressed conspiracy theories at the top
of Okay, and let.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Me tell you another thing.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We've never been to the moon because why is there
not a Starbucks and the McDonald's at the moon.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's an American of us. Steve would pay for the trip,
right and if the world was wrong, Okay, I'm done the.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Like, didn't you see the green scream moving in the
background when uh, when they went on the moon?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You know, like they never made it?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
It was uh, it was sure.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I will say that was very h forward thinking of them.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And that's somebody asked me when I went to uh, Antarctica.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, that already sounds great, Jordany know when I went
to Antartica, you know, did you see the water? Did it?
Did it? Was it a uh not round? Like they
asked some people asked me.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
And the best part was they literally were looking for you,
like waiting for an answer, like did you see the law?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Do you remember?
Speaker 12 (31:42):
There was a David Letterman show where they actually one
of the bits on the show live, they called to
somebody down in Antarctica and they said, when the water
goes down the drain, does it go counterclock rises?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And they're waiting for a real answer. Yes, yeah, on
the phone.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
That was some forward thinking though, the way they bent
the American flag on the moon to make it look
like wind was hitting even though there's no wind up there.
Speaker 12 (32:03):
I'm sorry, Are we done with topics?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah? That's what this was? This one that blame now.
I told you if Shadoroud went third, this would have
been the whole show right there. Sheeck the city Next
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Now we got it. We got it. Don't worry about Steve.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
This is this is yeah that shit door. We thought,
all right, we still don't know. Maybe you can go
up the board. They took a quarter back and the
Saints took Tyler Shuck. I'm shook right now, Ryan, you
shook Chador?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Shook? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
He's sitting there going they just drafted a twenty five
year old quarterback.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Did you see Tyler's face? He said me sitting on
his couch. He's like me, they drafted me. I got drafted.
It's getting crazy, Rob, everybody's best available board.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I keep seeing you picked the network, you picked.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The analyst keeps having Shador as either the best player
or quarterback, and he keeps getting picked over. Now now
I'm starting. This is what I'm trying to give me
X files out, Like, dude, what's going on? Starting a conspiracies?
What's the coming years? What's the conspiracy? Because of his arm?
When did he get not get that good out the
(35:48):
blue guys? August, September, October, November, December, he was pretty
dag on good.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
When you say this What kills me is you discount
the scout, the general only other people who watch and
and cover football like everybody's not.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Because Tyler Shook? Who is? Who is? He tell me.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Tyler Shook? He was the a C he was an
honorable mention for the a C C. Yet the Big
twelve Offensive Player of the Year doesn't. Come on, Ryan,
and am I crazy?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
All right? Now he's getting too bad. Now he's getting crazy.
Matter of fact.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
But you gotta start to stink.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You stink now you full board.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Now you saying I said, I said, you gotta said
that that was a slip.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That was a slip. Now you're saying, you got he's
starting to stink. That's what I said. I said, you.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Gotta start to think, is what I was trying to say.
What you said, I know what you were thinking. I'm
just saying, man, he was thinking, not good, Tyler Shook.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I'm shook. Right now, Who's next gonna get drafted? Quarterback
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We obviously, you know everybody have eyes on it.
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Speaker 3 (04:16):
And then that brings us to the draft. Let's start there.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And obviously Shador Sanders not drafted in the first round.
And I gotta tell you, you know, I've been covering sports
for almost forty years. I thought the coverage by NFL
analyst former play was atrocious. I thought it was atrocious.
And I'll tell you why drafting is not an exact science. Okay,
(04:42):
they made it as if two and two is like
the draft was two and two.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Was five, and then went like, oh, it's not, it's four,
Like how.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Could you miss that?
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Like, how did you miss that? That was the reaction.
And my point is.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They don't get it right all the time. We talked
about it all the time. This wasn't some memo passed
by Roger Goodell. Put your door Sanders.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
In his place. Don't draft them right. People want to
make it a race thing.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh my god, if you're a black, cocky guy, Kim
Ward's cocky and me, yeah, okay, did kim Ward get
drafted first? Come on, man, don't do that. Don't throw
it out there. If it ain't real, and we can
talk about all the guys. And you notice, because we've
(05:42):
been over this list of guys who were drafted not
in the first round. Yeah, where Jalen Hurts second round,
Drew Brees who's going to the Hall of Fame, second round,
Russell Wilson has a chance at a third, Dad Prescott
(06:03):
fourth round, Kirk Cousin's fourth round, Tom Brady's sixth round,
brock Purty seventh round. Stop this whole idea as if
it was a birthright for him. And here's the other thing,
Kelvin that really bothered me. Do you really believe that
general managers and coaches who are trying to hold on
(06:24):
to their gig deliberately passed over him. Why can't Why
can't they honestly think that he's just not on that
caliber that they don't want to spend a first round
draft pick. They could wind up wrong, and they've been
wrong on people.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And that's my argument.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And the last thing is this Kyle Brand, is that
his name from NFL network. Does he not know he
went off on the whole anonymous quote thing. Some of
the greatest journalism done in this country are of you,
not anonymous quote.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In all factors, like anything in life, any.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Where you get somebody to honestly tell you what's going
on with without the fear of retribution, but by putting
their name on it. It is a part of journalism,
especially if you know who you're getting the information from,
and your editors or your outlet or your bosses know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It ain't like I talked to a bum at the
bottle at the end of the corner and he gave
me some quote about the president.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'm gonna run with it. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, the pick is in right now or Cleveland. I
want to see what they're gonna do because this may
we might, we might all of a sudden. Can t
neever continue conversation. Yeah, but my point still is there
was no reason for people to react like that because
he didn't get drafted.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So you you bring up a lot of points that
I definitely can understand. I definitely agree. The only side
of this that I'll add to is I think that's
part of why it's almost like any voting here in
the last cup few presidential elections, why you get one
side that's completely well, this makes sense, why would I
not vote for Joe Biden because blah blah blah. And
if you look at the track recor god, blah blah blah,
(08:13):
are you serious we need something new? I'm going for
Donald Trump because blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And the reason I say that is two months ago.
This is why some people are flabbergasted Robins because he
was a top five pick.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Most people say who that was. Dion said that a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Of people were saying that he's gonna be one of
the first quarterbacks to go, he'll be the It was
just a conversation that he'll be a high pick, top one,
I mean, top five, top seven pick. And for a
while there that was kind of just what was out there.
And then you started to see again the productivity on
the field. Now this is before people start to say, well,
the arn't isn't big enough. Well, the Actressy's there, but
(08:49):
it's only because he's throwing the Travis Hunter. And so
I think that's why you get some people say, no,
he's just not necessarily what we need. He's not a
top he's not a first round draft pick. And that's okay,
but I think some people are again confused and flabbering
ass to be like, well, where did this all of
a sudden come for the matter of a handful of weeks.
But there's not an exact signe I'm breaking down. And
(09:10):
here here's here, I'm sorry who they pick. They got
linebacker Carson Schweisen girl from U C.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
L A.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That is who the Browns have picked with their first
pick here in the second round, calling them a tackling machine.
And you know, so you got kind of a linebacker
who can make some plays there, so they're clearly going defense.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And here's the other thing too. There were there were
like three teams that needed a quarterback and they all
passed on them. And that that's what I'm like, Like
the Steelers at twenty one. Uh, the Browns had to
shot the Giants before the Giant and they all passed
on And the Giants even drafted up and around and
the Saint there was another.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, the Saints is the one that was kind of
interesting and none of them wanted them.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, and now again circling back Cleveland didn't want them again.
You give me a second time around, So that is
saying something but here, so here's my couple of points
real quick. I think I mentioned That's why I think
it was confusing for some people is again because we
had him as this highly ranked and highly you know,
high prospect going into the NFL draft for most of
(10:13):
the season, and all of a sudden that was you know,
that started to change when we seen him a couple
of times go up against high caliber quarterbacks. He matched
that we talk about when he went up against Caleb
Williams Heisman winner, and obviously he ended up having a
good season before he was drafted number one overall. He
dueled him back and forth, it went back and forth,
it went. So I think that was a part of
(10:33):
also why it was a bit confusing. But here's the
thing with Shador Sanders. Him being drafted in the first
round was not a guarantee. Him being drafted in the
first round was not the worst thing that's gonna happen
to him. If he's drafted in this round or the
third round, it's all right. You add the fuel to
the fire. If you believe in yourself, like I know
that he does, you take this and you make it work.
(10:55):
We mentioned all these quarterbacks who didn't get drafted when
they thought they would have and thought they should have.
So you use this as motivation you continue to work hard.
And by the way, this ain't when you get the
real money. The real money is your next contract. If
you ball out, whether you're sixth round, first round, brock
Perty's about to get some real money.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He wasn't making no money, you get what I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So I understand you wanted to be first round, but
if you end up being picked here in the second
round se la vi, such as life, you move on
and you make doubters of people.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You had a little bit of fuel to it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But again it's the idea that because there were speculating,
there were plenty of people didn't think he was a
first round pick either. I agree Dion said it early
and then other people whatever, But there are plenty of
people who I heard not And this is what I
said to you yesterday and the day before that. There
was too much theme about him not being you know
(11:46):
what I mean. Remember, I was like, there's just way
too much conversation. This isn't one person, and even the
anonymous quote, the one thing that people look at all, well,
this is about because he's in a confident black Man.
I read the entire quote. At the end of it
he did say the worst interview or whatever. I get
all that he said. And then the bottom line is
(12:09):
he's not that good. That that ultimately so because somebody
doesn't have the same intel or opinion of an evaluation,
not of look at shoe Hail Tani's numbers and say
he's not the MVP.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Do you see it?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
This is an evaluation of a guy who hasn't played.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And I still think one of the more understated things
we've said it, We've mentioned it. Not a lot of
teams needed a quarterback. Now some teams are riding with
quarterbacks that aren't that great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I can I can point out eighteens right now that
you know, just on paper, you could be like Trevor
Lawrence not okay, y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What's the idea that? But didn't want them? Says Volumes.
It does Pittsburgh absolutely unless they still the Saints. The Saints.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That to me was the more nobody kept talking about
twenty one with burg I kept saying the Saints and
that Derek car.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
How shocked will you be honest like or.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
No, I was not that shock based off what we've
been saying, and you've been You've been making a great
point of it. It just was there was no intail,
There was an inkling. There wasn't a uh kind of
whisper about it on paper. If I just me and
you sitting in a bar and I say, hey, the
Saints they need a quarterback, they need to start something,
get something building. But what we heard in reporting wise,
(13:28):
you didn't hear peep. So that was why I was like, well,
it can't be the Saints. But if I look at
the Saints, I look at Carolina and say, well, you're
already was ready to get rid of Bryce Young. Now
he had a you know, solid few games at the end,
are they like, no, there's our future. So you can
make a case for a handful of teams, which ultimately
comes down to they just don't believe he's good enough,
and maybe they did not like his interviewing.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
By the way, that two things can't be true.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Folks can believe now he ain't that good, especially for
me not thinking he has the right temperament. Now I
might not agree, you might might they not agree, But
if they feel that two things can't be true because
you know it goes. You can say, ah, he's kind
of a little confident, a little too much that I like,
But dang, he is a Aaron Luck talent. I think
I would make that exception for that. But if you're
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already kind of talent, I don't not really bind. If
he's first round talent. By the way, he can be
mid second round, and that's not bad. But it's not
the worst thing ago, But it's not the end of
the world. If in the next seven eight picks here
he goes and he's in the top thirty five to
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forty five picks of seven.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Round on Cleveland didn't pick him.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's a little like yeah, but then they got another
pick here coming up too. But that that would to
me be like, all right, so it wasn't the worst
thing in the world to happen to you. You know,
Cleveland's coming right back around here again. Uh what at
the thirty six pick.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because because.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I caught some other reports saying that being drafted the
second I wasn't a guarantee for him either. Well, clearly,
I mean again, because it's not as all of a
sudden they have quarterback needs like these teams that feel
like they don't need a quarterback, feel like they don't need.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
A quarterback might because they would have grabbed one exactly
felt like.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And it wasn't a quarterback draft anyway.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
There wasn't like seven quarterbacks who are gonna go in
the first forty five picks or anything?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 5 (15:26):
Uh, where are you on the Shadoor Sanders?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Was he not drafted in the first round because people
didn't think he was good enough? Or there's some conspiracy?
Are you on a conspiracy train? Or like I am?
I just think it was the evaluation that they really
felt like he wasn't because there were three teams obviously
that could have looked at him.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
As Saints are the Aints right now, and I thought
that might be something. In Sielsburgh, Mason Rudolph is their
starting quarterback right now.
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They don't have Aaron Rodgers in the fold and they
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Speaker 1 (17:19):
All right, let's get to the call. A lot of
people want to jump in on this conspiracy or just talent.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I do know what you mean. Randy, Randy and New.
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Speaker 3 (17:33):
What's up, Yo?
Speaker 9 (17:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
How are you? Randy? What's up? Buddy?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
I've always been what I hear from y'all. Man. We
talked last week and you were talking about, you know,
sheduring what should be doing the draft, and I called
in and I said he was a third to fort
round talent. Now it sounds kind of crazy coming from
a nobody, just a sports guy, but the height train
been ruling for the last two years. When it comes
(18:02):
down to Door in Colorado, I'll just say this. You
that a guy named Dank Pitscott that played for Mississippi State. Ye,
and I watched him have unbelievable a couple of years
in the SEC. He even brought Mississippi State up to
number one, I believe.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
I found to number four in the draft and nobody
said a word. Yep, right Door Sanders had a twelve
and thirteen or thirteen or twelve k or something like
that in Colorado. What have they done?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I know everybody call them Yeah, my only countter. I
don't appreciate appreciate you, Randy. I don't think anybody should
be crowned like as if he was, you know, out
there looking like the return of Peyton Manning. But I
do think what we saw him do with a help, dude,
he was literally running for his life most of his
time at Colorado, and it's still be that productive. I
think was impressive.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
To me.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Mike in New York, you're on the couple from My
Life Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
What's up, Mike? Hey, how you doing doing great?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know?
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I actually think he is a talent, wise a first
round talent. I think he's one of the most accurate
quarterbacks in the draft. I think he h showed the
ability to handle pressure because his line finn and block
all season. He showed he was elusive. I don't think
he's a bad guy. I think he might be boisterous.
I think the biggest liability and why.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
He didn't get drafted in the first round is his father.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And soon that please well, well, I say that because
imagine you're the coach and you take him and it
starts going bad.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
What's gonna happen.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
They're gonna be asking Dion what's going on. Dion's going
to be like, well, my son's not being utilized properly.
And then people are going to be calling for the
coach's job and wanting Diam coach that team as soon as.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
That goes, Mike, Mike, Mike, let me throw this at
you though, Mike, I hear you. I want to I
want to count that. What about when Eli and Archie
Manning jumped in. Argie Manning from the very jump jumped in,
you better not draft my son. He ain't gonna play there.
He's not the only father who has been now he's
he's bigger than.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
That he has. He is a coach, he's got TV shows.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But we've had plenty of fathers who are out there screening.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But I will say this, and they go.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
To ask Manning to coach your team. No fans are
going to be calling for him to coach the team.
Fans are crazy. Your fans are going to be booing
the coach for two losses and in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Mike, thank you. We're appreciated.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
The only reason I'm gonna say one thing is the
reason that nobody after the first with Tim Tebow, nobody
wanted him because of the remember.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
That the fans and everything always Yeah, there was just
too much around him to really want because because they
all knew he's a backup and he's not a star,
and they're all gonna want him to play.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I just say, all right, Uh, let's go to Jeff
in Montana.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You're in the odd couple of Fox sportuating, Hey, guys,
that was going doing good?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Oh wonderful? I'm kind of a dreaming with the last guy.
I think that there's there's so much treasure with the
old man and his power that it might turn into
like a LaMelo ball fame, or that he's got this
guy that can get on any radio or TV show
he wants and can air dirty laundry, and that might
not be good for the locker.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I don't. I think y'all given Dion a little bit
once more. Power Cloud.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He's a big time but he's a Hall of fame
out a doubt. He's a big name, and and they
all know I'm not that I do, But I'm just
saying like, maybe it's more than we just don't think
he's that great.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Maybe we think he's solid a third or fourth.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Rounds because I don't get that mostly that that they
really don't think he's.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Because let's say he was Jaydon Daniels, but his dad
was Dion Dion Daniels that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Admit, like like the our ball thing was just out
of like out of wat it just.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And LaMelo got drafted what was he first or second pick? Yeah, exactly.
They got conned into that.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, but I'm but I'm saying, like, because LaMelo is
really good when he's healthy, LaMelo is an all star.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If he's good, if he if they viewed him as
that great, they'd be like, Dean will use this to
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was hanging out with the Rams at their draft facility,
which we did a story on it at Spectrum News
one where the day time job here for me where
they were at the la FD right, a fire department,
Tyler right.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Yeah, it was a great scene in a great environment
at the fire department there and a baniye. We got
to tour the facility. The firefighters very gracious, obviously they
went through a lot this year in January. But and
props to the Rams too. They have renovated part of
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the fire station, their breakroom and their rest room with couches,
TVs and things like that. So it was just a
great environment and really was the climax of the Rams
day one draft because they traded out with their first
round pick. So it was a good day overall though, Well.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
They had to have a setup like that, we're gonna
have to take care of. Give them something good, give
us some good food. It's some good furniture, all right,
just your take your door.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I drafted already in the second round, a couple of
picks of gone by. I know you were high on him,
but it looks like a lot of people in the
NFL were, especially teams that needed quarterbacks. Giants took a quarterback,
not your door. Steelers passed on them. They need a quarterback,
and the Saints with the injury right need a quarterback
and they passed on them.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Surprised quarterback.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
I was very surprised that the Saints passed on him.
I was probably even more surprised at the Giants willingness
to move back up into the first round to get
Jackson Dart. I mean to do was my second rateed
quarterback in this year's draft. To me, he's better than
Jackson Dart. I think the Giants are going to regret
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that decision. And I get it that he doesn't have
the tremendous arm strengths. He's not the best athlete of
all the quarterbacks, but when he turned on the tape,
he is easily the second best quarterback in this year's draft.
He's the accurate passer. He rose receivers open throwers, are
a precision. He's comfortable in the pocket, and he revitalized
(25:06):
the Jackson State football program. Along with Travis Hunder and
his dad, Dean of course, and then look what he
did at Colorado, broke single season records and passed the
yards and so on. So that's to me as a
first round So.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Why do you think that he wasn't like a sniff
from anybody?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mean, I hear your case for him, But obviously
it wasn't just one team or two teams that passed
on him.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
You know, af the whole league passed on him in
the first round.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
What do you well, when I look at this year's
quarterback class, there was really only one quarterback where everybody
knew was a consensus first round quarterback, and that's Cam Moore.
And to me, Jackson Dart and Shador Sanders. Those quarterbacks
even Tyler took, people were thinking that they were maybe
(25:51):
second round talent. But teams reached for quarterbacks all the
time in the first round. So in my opinion, teams
like the things the Giants, they just looked at his
overall talent as far as athleticism, as far as his
arm strength, and they just aren't overly impressed by it.
When I look at team like the Pittsburgh Steelers, they
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got a premier defensive tackle and Harmon, they're available in
the first round, and maybe they got some intel that
Chador was gonna drop to round two. The Steelers don't
have a round three pick, but I'm hearing that they're
gonna try to straight up into the second round. Uh,
and maybe they can get Shador there. But it will
be a surprise to me if the Door does not
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get drafted.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I was gonna ask you if you don't get drafts
in the second rounds.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I mean, what the the thing about it is?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Like, I mean, if you start to look Tyler Robin,
I had this conversation.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Not everybody needs a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
They're still early in the draft, so people still have, Hey,
here's that offensive lineman we need, here's our game plan,
or if you look at what Cleveland's.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Doing, somebody who can the team right away.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Cleveland is clearly locking in defensively. They said, if we
can just dominate on this side of the ball, we've
got some offensive piece here there. We'll figure out the rest.
But maybe we'll just be great on the defensive side
of the ball. And I say that to say some
teams may be doing that. Hey we're just gonna continue
to stockpile receivers, or we're gonna be great on the
defensive side of ball. You mess around and look up,
he might not get drafted in a second, because again,
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there's team teams that just simply don't need a quarterback
or are hanging on to middling quarterback like a Bryce Young,
like a Trevor Lawrence. We don't know what the Saints
are doing, you know what I mean, where it's like, well,
why would they pick him right now? You know, when
they seem to be invested into something else? But were
there any other storylines? Any other headlines? Rob and I
was talking about this last week. I mean, my guys,
(27:39):
I don't know if I've ever remember a draft where
there's like one and a half storylines right at all,
Like literally, you usually get about five or six.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You had to earn your money for USA today doing
this drafts. Like, boy, he was making up some stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Wasn't he.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, Travis Hunder, his teammate, was a storyline. I mean,
look what the Jaguars did. They I mean pretty much
mortgage the farm to move up to number two to
draft him. And he's going to play primarily receiver, is
what the Jaguars are saying. And they're gonna sprinkle him
in on defense. So really, Jacksonville, that's been a sleepy franchise.
(28:15):
And yes, I know they have Trevor Lawrence, but to me,
Travis Hunter, he can immediately become the face of the franchise,
the most popular player in that franchise, and ease some
of the pressure off of Trevor Lawrence. So that's a
huge storyline to me. And then the two running backs
that get drafted in the first round aston genty. I
(28:38):
believe it's gonna really do really well in Las Vegas,
especially with Pete Carroll. Then you have Amar and Hampton
with the La Chargers. You know, Jim Harball likes to
run the football, and so the running back position isn't
devalued anymore. With two running backs went early in the
first round, and then another running back in Judkins, went
(28:59):
off the board already in round two. So yeah, so
there's some storylines. I mean, maybe this draft isn't as
sexy as a year's past, but there are storylines.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He's trying. That was some good USA today.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
But one more right now, one more Todler real quick,
because and you brought it up the other day.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, Tom Brady loves Chador. He was there for the
taking with the Raider. Well, how was there any chance
of that? You know what I mean? Because it's like
a mentor to him to and he's even Brady didn't
take him.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Well, see, the Raiders, they had the number six pick
and they needed a running back. There the worst rushing
offense in the NFL last season, So I get them
selecting Astion Genc. Now the Raiders are coming up in
round two. They have a mid round two pick. We'll
see if they can draft schaedor there. The Saints that
they have a mid round two pick, they can draft them.
(29:54):
So I get why the Raiders passed on him because
of that number six pick. When you have a probably
uh top running back, arguably the best running back in
this year's draft, and you have a course rushing offense,
So I get it, and the race opportunity to get
him around too.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
All right, Yeah, we're gonna Watchler because you know why
we're gonna watch Tyler because ain't nothing else to watch
for it Tyler.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
That's why tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well you know what I meant in the NFL, drivet
boy out there making up stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
He's too lake a home where they got to listen
to get off off phone. I think I think Roger
Goodell was like, hey, do me a favorite league. Can
y'all just not draft to do?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Or why?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Because ain't nothing else to talk about? Won't you take them?
If you're taking what else we're gonna do for the
next six rounds? That's that conspiracy theory right there. Thank you, Tyler,
Appreciate it, Hoddy, have.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
A great weekend, of course, thanks later.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
All right, play that out for me, Ryan and Rob
and Steve. He gets drafted second, third, four, fifth, whatever?
What else are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Steve? We would be he saved? What else?
Speaker 12 (30:53):
Your co host already addressed conspiracy theories at the top
of Okay, and let.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Me tell you another thing.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We've never been to the moon because why is there
not a Starbucks and the McDonald's at the moon.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's an American of us. Steve would pay for the trip,
right and if the world was wrong, Okay, I'm done the.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Like, didn't you see the green scream moving in the
background when uh, when they went on the moon?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You know, like they never made it?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
It was uh, it was sure.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I will say that was very h forward thinking of them.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And that's somebody asked me when I went to uh, Antarctica.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, that already sounds great, Jordany know when I went
to Antartica, you know, did you see the water? Did it?
Did it? Was it a uh not round? Like they
asked some people asked me.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
And the best part was they literally were looking for you,
like waiting for an answer, like did you see the law?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Do you remember?
Speaker 12 (31:42):
There was a David Letterman show where they actually one
of the bits on the show live, they called to
somebody down in Antarctica and they said, when the water
goes down the drain, does it go counterclock rises?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And they're waiting for a real answer. Yes, yeah, on
the phone.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
That was some forward thinking though, the way they bent
the American flag on the moon to make it look
like wind was hitting even though there's no wind up there.
Speaker 12 (32:03):
I'm sorry, Are we done with topics?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah? That's what this was? This one that blame now.
I told you if Shadoroud went third, this would have
been the whole show right there. Sheeck the city Next
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Bucks minus five and a half. They need to win,
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Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah, I go ahead. They're gonna have some fight. I
like to lose, but close. If they lose, it's gonna
be close. They're gonna have some fight. I get what
you're saying. All right, as long as Boston is having
a run. Random we made twenty two threes, which you
know how they do.
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Right, Magic plus five and a half, Timberwolves minus three
and a half, and the Milwaukee Bucks the best bet
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All right, we got breaking news right here.
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We have some breaking news. We have that. This is
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Now we got it. We got it. Don't worry about Steve.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
This is this is yeah that shit door. We thought,
all right, we still don't know. Maybe you can go
up the board. They took a quarter back and the
Saints took Tyler Shuck. I'm shook right now, Ryan, you
shook Chador?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Shook? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
He's sitting there going they just drafted a twenty five
year old quarterback.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Did you see Tyler's face? He said me sitting on
his couch. He's like me, they drafted me. I got drafted.
It's getting crazy, Rob, everybody's best available board.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I keep seeing you picked the network, you picked.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The analyst keeps having Shador as either the best player
or quarterback, and he keeps getting picked over. Now now
I'm starting. This is what I'm trying to give me
X files out, Like, dude, what's going on? Starting a conspiracies?
What's the coming years? What's the conspiracy? Because of his arm?
When did he get not get that good out the
(35:48):
blue guys? August, September, October, November, December, he was pretty
dag on good.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
When you say this What kills me is you discount
the scout, the general only other people who watch and
and cover football like everybody's not.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Because Tyler Shook? Who is? Who is? He tell me.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Tyler Shook? He was the a C he was an
honorable mention for the a C C. Yet the Big
twelve Offensive Player of the Year doesn't. Come on, Ryan,
and am I crazy?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
All right? Now he's getting too bad. Now he's getting crazy.
Matter of fact.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
But you gotta start to stink.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You stink now you full board.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Now you saying I said, I said, you gotta said
that that was a slip.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
That was a slip. Now you're saying, you got he's
starting to stink. That's what I said. I said, you.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Gotta start to think, is what I was trying to say.
What you said, I know what you were thinking. I'm
just saying, man, he was thinking, not good, Tyler Shook.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I'm shook. Right now, Who's next gonna get drafted? Quarterback
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