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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone, Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we are going to discuss all of these bizarre tweets
from Kanye West, including the latest that he engaged in
incest with his cousin, a man who caught off his
wife's head and tried to flush it down the toilet,
and an unusual side effect of sniffing socks. All that
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and more on today's episode. Let's start with Kanye West.
I don't know whether to be shocked by this dude
or not. Lately, I mean, everything he puts online really
for the last five years has been more ridiculous than
the next. But now he's claiming that he had an
incestuous relationship with his cousin who's currently in prison for
killing someone. Yeah, this tweet is really alarming, although I
(01:07):
feel like it might be true. I mean, some of
the things that he says. I know that he says
outrageous things, but he says things oftentimes about the Kardashians
and stuff talking about the over sexualization of the children,
and you could understand that a person that went through
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that when they were younger might feel a certain kind
of way about that. Well, do you remember when Kobe
Bryant died and he had said he had made some
kind of statement saying that they went over Kylie's house
and there was like these vintage Playboy magazines just all
over the room, like within an arm's reach of all
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the children to be able to look at this pornography. Well,
I didn't remember that, but I know he has been
very critical of them because of that stuff. So what
he's getting So he's saying, he released this new song
called Cousins, and he said it's about my cousin that's
locked in jail for life for killing a pregnant lady
a few years after I told him that we wouldn't
quote look at dirty magazines together anymore. So he's saying
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that perhaps it's his fault why he killed the pregnant lady,
because he showed him these dirty magazines when the cousin
was six years old, and then they started performing sexual
acts on one another. All right. So it was very
hard for me to try to figure this out today
because obviously all the news stories are about this, and
they don't really go into detail who the cousin is.
(02:36):
So I guess at this time they don't really know
exactly who this cousin is that's in jail, but one
news source said that he was five years younger than Kanye,
and in this tweet, Kanye said that he had become
exposed to pornographic materials at his house from both his
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mom and his dad, including seeing different kinds of like
I think that he was saying that it was like
a playboy situation with naked people with his dad, but
the ones that his mom had were on a quote
on another level. Well, apparently he recently tried to say
that his mother, who is deceased, was a lesbian, So
I think that's what he's trying to indicate was they
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were different kind of magazines. Okay, I don't think that's
proven or enough, but it's like one of the outrageous
claims he's made recently. So he's a child and came
across this material and was looking at it, and I
estimate that if his cousin was six years old at
the time he started showing him these magazines, that means
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that Kanye was eleven years old at the time and
started showing them this pornographic magazines and they started having
this oral sex relationship, if not more, And it lasted
until Kanye was fourteen, which means it was until the
kid was about nine, so around three years the relationship
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was going on. And I mean, there's a big difference
between a fourteen year old boy slash man who's gone
through puberty and a nine year old well obviously, and
then you have to factor in that. I mean, no
children in general should be partaking in any sexual activity,
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let alone kids that are related. And like, where are
these people's families that they're not monitoring them and why
are they just leaving this material around for them to
access so easily? I don't know, but I've I saw
as a kid. I saw it in plenty of people's houses. No,
I didn't think it's nothing that I didn't come across
as a kid, for sure. And it's really it's really
(04:50):
disturbing because there's been a lot of talk about the
easy accessibility for children with pornography, especially with the Internet.
That ninety three percent of boys and sixty three percent
of girls are saying that they're exposed to it before
they're eighteen years old, and most of them are exposed
to the first time when they're twelve years old. So
kids that could go online, they could search things, and
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they might even be looking up questions about simple things.
But like porn pops up all the time. I mean,
you know that when you're doing Google searches, things pop
up that you're like, WHOA, I didn't even think about
that that that would pop up. So it does come
up easily, And it's hard as a parent because when
you put the restrictions for Google on the kid's accounts,
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then they can't search for anything. There's like no in between,
you know what I mean. Like I wish you could
just turn it off and say, like no porn, and
but they could have access to other stuff. But like
you know what I mean. So it's difficult and it's
just getting worse. But like in the eighties, like I said,
like I saw it at plenty of kids' houses too.
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One of the stories that came out recently, we were
talking a couple months ago about this Lily Phillips only
fans person that had sex with over one hundred people.
Do you remember that in twenty four hours? Well, yeah,
so she just there. An article just came out with
her recently saying that she thought that pornography was completely normal.
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She started watching it when she was eleven. She thinks
it made her sexually confident. She thinks it had a
positive effect on her. And it's also interesting that her
parents have been like very supportive of this career she's doing.
So clearly there was like some open stuff with her
as a kid that was completely fine. But lots of
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studies are done that suggests that kids the earlier, especially
the earlier they're exposed to it, the more detrimental it
could be to them, not only in childhood but growing up,
including depression, anxiety, mental health problems. And it's definitely increased
the younger they are. So I mean, Kanye's saying that
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he might be responsible for that is not completely off
out of the question, you know what I mean, Like
if he started having a six year old perform oral
sex on him and vice versa when he and then
cut off the relationship when he was nine or ten
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years old, you could imagine that he was not going
to be a completely normal adult. Well, no, of course.
And I mean I feel like the topic of incest
has been coming up a lot recently because of pop
culture things like White Lotus or We Have You know,
of course this menandaz brother's case has been resurfacing a lot,
and they made that Netflix show really honing in on that.
(07:47):
I remember, yeah, but I thought, like, first cousins is
not always considered incest, Like it's not even in every
single state in America. For US, it's like, yeah, for
us it is, but like lots of countries, including the UK,
are totally cool with you getting married and having sexual relation.
Doesn't I'm not saying it makes it right, but the
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term incest and a lot like don't say. The statistics
say in the United States that incests occurs in fifteen
percent of families, which is a frickin' lot. Well, but
that's like child on child with like siblings and adults
with children. No, but like all right, so we were
like looking this up with something with the necrophilia posts
we did earlier this week, So like, what is the
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actual terminal? What is the actual definition for incests? Is
it having sexual relationships with somebody that you are blood
connected to, because then yes, a first cousin counts, But
like ethically in many countries, I guess they don't consider
that to be a problem. I don't I don't even
necessarily think that it matters that they're even cousins. At
this point, it's more like, let's say their moms were
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friends and the kids were friends. Like it's what's more
disturbing is that children were even doing this instead of
like playing with g I Joes and like playing baseball
outside like it's the cousin thing is like to me,
is doesn't even really matter. Well, yeah, I mean today
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that's really shocking, but you have to think, you know,
like Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were cousins, and I
even just saw Pride and Prejudice the day they were
first cousins. I don't know if they were first cousins,
but they were cousins. They were related in some capacity,
and I saw Pride and Prejudice in the theater last night.
And even you know, at the end of the movie,
mister Darcy's aunt goes to Elizabeth Bennett and is like,
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I don't want you getting engaged to my nephew because
he's going to be marrying my daughter with their cousins.
So like that at some point in time, especially with
like higher class families and royalty, that was extremely common.
But today I feel like that's very shocking because of
how we've evolved this society. But yeah, I think the
greater problem here is not necessarily the incests. It's the
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fact that children in general were engaging in this activity
and nobody was like monitoring them enough to know what
was going on for years. And like Kanye and whatever
is going on with him mentally is just a whole
other discussion. I mean, his children are on social media,
which I'm against, but whatever they're on social media. I mean,
(10:23):
like his his oldest kid is the same age as Lilian.
They were born like a month apart from each other
or something like, how would Lillian feel if she had
the Internet and search something and saw that her dad
said that because she has many problems beyond just this post.
(10:44):
He's saying a lot of that. I know she, I
know she does, and yes, all of the crazy Nazi
stuff and all that. Like that's another That's kind of
another problem though, is that, Like, and I get like,
there's the freedom of speech thing and all, but like,
I feel like he's almost trying to push it on
purpose to see what he could get away with because
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of who he is and how much money he has.
Because I just feel like that like censorship occurs on
such smaller levels with like regular everyday people. And he's
just like, he's literally talking about sexually assaulting a child,
regardless if he was a child himself. Like, it's so
on the line of like of a crime almost. And
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I honestly like, if you talk about right now in
twenty twenty five, if you hear that a fourteen year
old kid is having sex with a nine year old kid,
like that kid, I'm sure that kid could get into
some kind of trouble for that. Yeah, And I definitely
think everybody can argue freedom of speed, not that it
makes it right, but like people in this country have
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a right to say whatever they want. But of course,
when it's linked to these extremely problematic hate groups and
a crime of this nature, you have to really analyze
it like that. And I remember a couple of years
ago that Lena Dunham had written in her book that
she had I don't remember exactly what happened, but she
explained that in her childhood she had a sexual encounter
with either one of her siblings or one of her cousins.
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And she got like canceled over that for talking about
that experience. For experimenting with one of her siblings or
a loved one. So I don't really know because you
have to pull it back and be like, the larger
problem is, is this is a crime that occurred when
he's fourteen years old with a nine year old if
that was the actual age gap. Yeah, I mean I guess,
(12:34):
I guess if he was writing a tell all book.
I mean, he's just talking about something that happened, and
then I understand, like, if this is true and this happened,
you understand where he comes from with It's almost bizarre, though,
that he was even attracted to that family because they're
(12:55):
so over sexed. But well, maybe that's why, because I
think sometimes terms of sexual trauma end up being predators themselves,
or they're attracted to people that act like that because
they don't know any different. And I'm not saying that
to defend his actions. I think he's clearly going through
a serious mental crisis right now. We're seeing that play
out every single day on the internet. But it's just like,
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really crazy has happened. I guess there's always the possibility
is this true. I would say it probably is, because
I don't think he would just say it but who
knows because he just says the most shocking shit anymore.
I honestly, I don't know. Like when I read it,
I'm like, I think it's true. And then when you're
reading a lot of articles, it seems like he has
(13:38):
potentially referenced this but not have been so explicit about it,
just saying that that's why he's so concerned about his
kids because of stuff that happened when he was a kid,
but he doesn't go into detail like he is now.
And I just really like, I, like I said, I'm
just more concerned about like his kids. Just there's just
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certain things that I mean, between both of the parents,
it's like, Okay, so now you have a mom who
became famous because of a sex tape, and then you
have a dad who just said that listen, no matter what,
they're gonna be damaged because, like I'm sorry to say,
they could do the best they can, but like they're
(14:23):
putting them in the public eye, they're letting them have
paparazzi take pictures of them and letting them go on
social media and seeing and being exposed to all this stuff.
So like, at the end of the day, there's many
celebrities that have children that people have never seen, so
it could be done. They're just just yeah, to do it.
It's crazy, Like I think it was Sarah Jessica Parker maybe,
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like I don't know if she went to her sons
like a graduation. I don't know what it was, but
they it was like one of the first times she
ever showed a picture of the kid and he's like
in college. Well, yeah, because a lot of celebrities do
that and they've successfully done it, so I think there's
totally a way to do it. And obviously with them
it's a little harder because they're so famous and you're
(15:06):
gonna have just people on the street taking pictures of
your kids. But and it's like you can't not let
your kids go out in public because of that. But
they're putting them on a television show and letting them
go online and seeing all this stuff. So that's on
them at this point. And I mean everybody could argue
at this point too with Kim, with all this stuff
going on with him, she needs to work a little
(15:27):
harder to remove them from his presence because he's clearly
having a crisis and you shouldn't be exposing your children
to that. Yeah, I don't. I just don't even know
what to say. But it does explain a lot about
the the the sexuality with the with the new wife
girlfriend person and the nakedness and all. Like, it's just
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it's just kind it's just like I, like, listen, I'm
a normal human and it's highly entertaining to read like
about these dramas because it's not happening in my life.
But when you think about little kids being involved, it's
kind of like really sad and pathetic and depressing. Actually, no,
it's really sad. That's like their real life, it really is.
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that just flushes wipe's head down the toilet. I mean,
(18:00):
this is so ridiculous. In the UK, this couple have
been married for over thirty years, and the wife revealed
that during this during the seated argument, that she had
had an affair. So the husband doctor out with an
iron bar, cut her head off, crushed it with a mallet,
and then tried to flush the remains down the toilet.
I wonder, because of course they don't go into much detail.
I wonder how he got caught doing this. I mean, well,
(18:23):
he called the cops and said, you're gonna find two
dead bodies at my house, and then they got there
quicker than he expected, and they ended up finding him
in the process of trying to take his own life.
See it's interesting because there's been a couple cases. We
have a couple cases actually in the gross room about
people that murder people and try to push their remains
(18:44):
down the toilet, and how it goes terribly wrong because
obviously you can't fit body parts down a toilet like
you geah, like some tiny bani paper towel or like
a tampon gets clocked. So yeah, trying to stick someone's
head in there for sure. So this I think it
was a little bit of an overreaction. I could understand
being married for thirty years and being pissed that your
(19:05):
wife was cheating, but like just a little bit of
an overreaction. I guess my question too, is like how
long is the legal process in the UK because this
happened eleven years ago and this guy just got sentenced
to jail time. Really well, yeah, it's probably because of
COVID and all that bullshit they go. I mean, think
about that, for like years they were behind and didn't
(19:25):
do anything. So maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Also, why do they wear those little wigs? Do you
ever see this in their court? They wear these like
white wigs over their hair, like yeah, like why she
did style? Yeah? Like old school? Yeah. I just find
it interesting that they haven't progressed to that because I
who were recovering recently, Oh, in a necrophilia post when
we were covering that hospital electrician David Fuller. Yeah, when
(19:50):
I was looking up his case, there had been a
picture of a judge on his case that had one
of those just over her nice hair, and it was like,
that looks so ridiculous. I just interested why they keep
that up? But I guess he tried to portray that
he had this mental illness and said that he saw
his wife as a quote snake, but they didn't see
he had any signs of mental illness, I guess in
(20:11):
the case of pleading insanity. But clearly something was going
on because most people wouldn't react like that. Remember, wanted
a crime of passion. Remember one of our friends, her
ex boyfriend used to call her a snake in the grass.
We always used to laugh because she was like totally
she was like the best girlfriend ever and he just
like had all of this. He was the one that
(20:32):
had mental illness of like making up this stuff that
wasn't even existing. But he used to be like, you
were a sneak in the grass. But well, So the
craziest thing is that before she left work the day
before that she got before she got murdered, she said
to her coworkers, if I don't come to work, I
might be dead, So like she knew it was coming. Yeah,
(20:56):
and he has now been sentenced to twenty one years
in prison, but he has prostate can so he expects
he's gonna die there, which he's in his like what
late sixties anyway, So yeah, and if he's there for us,
if he doesn't have advanced stage prostate cancer, prostate cancer
is like one of those weird ones that if you
catch it early, it's like one of the best cancers
to have. But if you catch it late, then it's
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barely bad cancer to have because it could spread to
your bones and stuff. So if he has, if he
got it caught early, then he's not dying from that
anytime soon. This next one is a tel on why
it is a bad idea to sniff your socks. I mean,
why is anybody doing this? But fairly it's happening. So
in China, this guy had developed this cough it wouldn't
(21:39):
go away, and after seeking medical treatment, doctors discovered he
had developed a fungus infection in his lungs from sniffing
his dirty socks at the end of his workday. Yeah.
I don't even understand how that conversation came up or
how doctors react to some things that they hear, but they,
I guess, you know, he had this chronic lung infection.
And what they do is they do a scan first
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and they see and they confirm it, and then they
did a test called the broncoscopy is which is when
they put a tube down inside of the airway and
they had these little pinchers in there to take a biopsy,
and when they did the biopsy, they saw that he
had a mold or a fungus called Aspergillus, And they
start asking questions because we all breathe in as rgillus
(22:23):
all the time, and when you get enough inside of
you that it's actually causing an infection, it's either like
you have an exposure or you're immunosuppressed. This guy didn't
seem like he had that he was immuno suppressed. He
was an office worker, so they start asking him questions
like what would possibly be a reason, like what are
(22:44):
you breathing in all the time? And he was just like, well,
at the end of every single day, I smell my socks. Yeah,
Like this isn't like a one or two time occurrence.
It was part of his daily ritual, like get home
for work, get undressed, smell sucks. Yeah. It's when I
first saw this story, I thought it was going to
be one of these weird ones, you know how there's
like these only fans accounts or whatever that you can
(23:07):
like buy people's dirty socks and their underwear and stuff
like that. I thought it was going to be like
related to something like that No, it's just his it's
just it's just his own. But I got and I
don't really understand the attraction, but just that damp, salty
environment of shoes and not not even knowing if the
guy's changing his socks every day. That's a whole other thing.
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But I mean, like I said, in the environment, we
breathe in spores from these these fungal elements all the time.
But but like you're essentially like putting it in your
face and breathing it in. And that's what happened. And
and you know, Aspergillis can cause an allergic reaction in
some people, but there's other times where it could in
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the infection could spread from the lungs and get into
the brain and the kidneys, and it could kill you.
It could be really bad. So I mean it's it's
kind of a hilarious story, but at the same time,
like he could have got really hurt by this. Luckily
he was able to just get treated and he's fine now,
but we're all not fine for knowing that he does this. Yeah,
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I really am not fine from knowing it. But whatever,
people want to do, whatever they want. I mean, there's
an entire show my strange addiction about people that do
weird stuff like this all the time. So I'll never
get that show. Yeah, and I'll never get over the
the whatever's over. The girl was like eating nail polish.
That was so disgusting. The only one that I could
relate to on that show was the woman that's left
(24:33):
with her hair dryer on, because, like, I like the
feeling of burning hot heat, so like I understand that
I would suggest to her getting like a space heater
or an electric blanket, and the hair dryer is a
terrible idea because of the fire hazard. But like I'm
just saying, all right, this last case is so we
(24:55):
talk about on this program from time to time when
people are when they die and then their animal eats
their body, right, we talk about that, But this is
a little bit of a different situation. Yeah, this one's
completely unacceptable. I mean, so outside of this post mortem
facility in India, staff and police were just busy chatting
it up. Meanwhile, just feed a couple feet away from them.
(25:17):
This dog was eating this unclaimed body for up to
ten minutes before they realized what was going on. Yeah,
so I guess the most disturbing part of this I mean,
aside from what Maria just said, is that the guy
had to go in and get an autopsy because they
didn't know why he died. And then sometimes you know,
they'll call the family and say or try to find
the family. Because sometimes they can't find the family, sometimes
(25:38):
they call the family. We've had this happen at the
hospital too, where people are you know, if you're not
expecting someone to die and they die and then all
of a sudden, it's like you got to drop all
this money for a funeral home to come pick up
the body and handle the body like people are. Sometimes
takes people a couple of days to gather money or
figure out what they're going to do, and they don't
claim the body. And we had a rule at the
(25:59):
hospital we would send the body to the medical examiner's
office actually if they didn't come and get it within
a certain amount of days. But at the medical examiner's office,
now you would pick up the body. The unclean body
would sit for however long until somebody eventually would get it.
But in this case, they had I mean, this is
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in India, so they're not it's not like a formal
medical examiner's office and I don't know how they handled
things there, but the autopsy was done and the body
was just kind of like laying outside, I guess, waiting
for someone to come claim it, and these people that
were working there, the police and the Morgan employees, were
just like chatting it up and like not even paying attention,
(26:44):
and a dog came and like ripped his body to shreds.
But it's so disturbing because somebody drove by and recorded
it happening and posted it on social media and it
went viral. Yeah, of course it did. And it's again
this question we were having on yesterday's episode of like,
why are we so desensitized as a society that we
just take these videos? How could you have been stomach
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watching this in person, let alone take it. I mean
I could stomach watching it. I kind of want to
see the video, Honestly, I don't know. I could not
stomach this happening. And then you just hear that the
staff and the police are just like just chit chatting
off to the side while this guy is getting torn
to shreds. It's really horrible. But we actually have a
really good external exam too about what happens to unclean
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bodies all right. Well, on that note, thank you guys
so much for We'll see you in tomorrow's episode.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone, Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we are going to discuss all of these bizarre tweets
from Kanye West, including the latest that he engaged in
incest with his cousin, a man who caught off his
wife's head and tried to flush it down the toilet,
and an unusual side effect of sniffing socks. All that
(00:43):
and more on today's episode. Let's start with Kanye West.
I don't know whether to be shocked by this dude
or not. Lately, I mean, everything he puts online really
for the last five years has been more ridiculous than
the next. But now he's claiming that he had an
incestuous relationship with his cousin who's currently in prison for
killing someone. Yeah, this tweet is really alarming, although I
(01:07):
feel like it might be true. I mean, some of
the things that he says. I know that he says
outrageous things, but he says things oftentimes about the Kardashians
and stuff talking about the over sexualization of the children,
and you could understand that a person that went through
(01:28):
that when they were younger might feel a certain kind
of way about that. Well, do you remember when Kobe
Bryant died and he had said he had made some
kind of statement saying that they went over Kylie's house
and there was like these vintage Playboy magazines just all
over the room, like within an arm's reach of all
(01:49):
the children to be able to look at this pornography. Well,
I didn't remember that, but I know he has been
very critical of them because of that stuff. So what
he's getting So he's saying, he released this new song
called Cousins, and he said it's about my cousin that's
locked in jail for life for killing a pregnant lady
a few years after I told him that we wouldn't
quote look at dirty magazines together anymore. So he's saying
(02:13):
that perhaps it's his fault why he killed the pregnant lady,
because he showed him these dirty magazines when the cousin
was six years old, and then they started performing sexual
acts on one another. All right. So it was very
hard for me to try to figure this out today
because obviously all the news stories are about this, and
they don't really go into detail who the cousin is.
(02:36):
So I guess at this time they don't really know
exactly who this cousin is that's in jail, but one
news source said that he was five years younger than Kanye,
and in this tweet, Kanye said that he had become
exposed to pornographic materials at his house from both his
(02:59):
mom and his dad, including seeing different kinds of like
I think that he was saying that it was like
a playboy situation with naked people with his dad, but
the ones that his mom had were on a quote
on another level. Well, apparently he recently tried to say
that his mother, who is deceased, was a lesbian, So
I think that's what he's trying to indicate was they
(03:20):
were different kind of magazines. Okay, I don't think that's
proven or enough, but it's like one of the outrageous
claims he's made recently. So he's a child and came
across this material and was looking at it, and I
estimate that if his cousin was six years old at
the time he started showing him these magazines, that means
(03:41):
that Kanye was eleven years old at the time and
started showing them this pornographic magazines and they started having
this oral sex relationship, if not more, And it lasted
until Kanye was fourteen, which means it was until the
kid was about nine, so around three years the relationship
(04:05):
was going on. And I mean, there's a big difference
between a fourteen year old boy slash man who's gone
through puberty and a nine year old well obviously, and
then you have to factor in that. I mean, no
children in general should be partaking in any sexual activity,
(04:25):
let alone kids that are related. And like, where are
these people's families that they're not monitoring them and why
are they just leaving this material around for them to
access so easily? I don't know, but I've I saw
as a kid. I saw it in plenty of people's houses. No,
I didn't think it's nothing that I didn't come across
as a kid, for sure. And it's really it's really
(04:50):
disturbing because there's been a lot of talk about the
easy accessibility for children with pornography, especially with the Internet.
That ninety three percent of boys and sixty three percent
of girls are saying that they're exposed to it before
they're eighteen years old, and most of them are exposed
to the first time when they're twelve years old. So
kids that could go online, they could search things, and
(05:13):
they might even be looking up questions about simple things.
But like porn pops up all the time. I mean,
you know that when you're doing Google searches, things pop
up that you're like, WHOA, I didn't even think about
that that that would pop up. So it does come
up easily, And it's hard as a parent because when
you put the restrictions for Google on the kid's accounts,
(05:34):
then they can't search for anything. There's like no in between,
you know what I mean. Like I wish you could
just turn it off and say, like no porn, and
but they could have access to other stuff. But like
you know what I mean. So it's difficult and it's
just getting worse. But like in the eighties, like I said,
like I saw it at plenty of kids' houses too.
(05:55):
One of the stories that came out recently, we were
talking a couple months ago about this Lily Phillips only
fans person that had sex with over one hundred people.
Do you remember that in twenty four hours? Well, yeah,
so she just there. An article just came out with
her recently saying that she thought that pornography was completely normal.
(06:17):
She started watching it when she was eleven. She thinks
it made her sexually confident. She thinks it had a
positive effect on her. And it's also interesting that her
parents have been like very supportive of this career she's doing.
So clearly there was like some open stuff with her
as a kid that was completely fine. But lots of
(06:40):
studies are done that suggests that kids the earlier, especially
the earlier they're exposed to it, the more detrimental it
could be to them, not only in childhood but growing up,
including depression, anxiety, mental health problems. And it's definitely increased
the younger they are. So I mean, Kanye's saying that
(07:03):
he might be responsible for that is not completely off
out of the question, you know what I mean, Like
if he started having a six year old perform oral
sex on him and vice versa when he and then
cut off the relationship when he was nine or ten
(07:24):
years old, you could imagine that he was not going
to be a completely normal adult. Well, no, of course.
And I mean I feel like the topic of incest
has been coming up a lot recently because of pop
culture things like White Lotus or We Have You know,
of course this menandaz brother's case has been resurfacing a lot,
and they made that Netflix show really honing in on that.
(07:47):
I remember, yeah, but I thought, like, first cousins is
not always considered incest, Like it's not even in every
single state in America. For US, it's like, yeah, for
us it is, but like lots of countries, including the UK,
are totally cool with you getting married and having sexual relation.
Doesn't I'm not saying it makes it right, but the
(08:10):
term incest and a lot like don't say. The statistics
say in the United States that incests occurs in fifteen
percent of families, which is a frickin' lot. Well, but
that's like child on child with like siblings and adults
with children. No, but like all right, so we were
like looking this up with something with the necrophilia posts
we did earlier this week, So like, what is the
(08:31):
actual terminal? What is the actual definition for incests? Is
it having sexual relationships with somebody that you are blood
connected to, because then yes, a first cousin counts, But
like ethically in many countries, I guess they don't consider
that to be a problem. I don't I don't even
necessarily think that it matters that they're even cousins. At
this point, it's more like, let's say their moms were
(08:54):
friends and the kids were friends. Like it's what's more
disturbing is that children were even doing this instead of
like playing with g I Joes and like playing baseball
outside like it's the cousin thing is like to me,
is doesn't even really matter. Well, yeah, I mean today
(09:15):
that's really shocking, but you have to think, you know,
like Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were cousins, and I
even just saw Pride and Prejudice the day they were
first cousins. I don't know if they were first cousins,
but they were cousins. They were related in some capacity,
and I saw Pride and Prejudice in the theater last night.
And even you know, at the end of the movie,
mister Darcy's aunt goes to Elizabeth Bennett and is like,
(09:37):
I don't want you getting engaged to my nephew because
he's going to be marrying my daughter with their cousins.
So like that at some point in time, especially with
like higher class families and royalty, that was extremely common.
But today I feel like that's very shocking because of
how we've evolved this society. But yeah, I think the
greater problem here is not necessarily the incests. It's the
(09:59):
fact that children in general were engaging in this activity
and nobody was like monitoring them enough to know what
was going on for years. And like Kanye and whatever
is going on with him mentally is just a whole
other discussion. I mean, his children are on social media,
which I'm against, but whatever they're on social media. I mean,
(10:23):
like his his oldest kid is the same age as Lilian.
They were born like a month apart from each other
or something like, how would Lillian feel if she had
the Internet and search something and saw that her dad
said that because she has many problems beyond just this post.
(10:44):
He's saying a lot of that. I know she, I
know she does, and yes, all of the crazy Nazi
stuff and all that. Like that's another That's kind of
another problem though, is that, Like, and I get like,
there's the freedom of speech thing and all, but like,
I feel like he's almost trying to push it on
purpose to see what he could get away with because
(11:04):
of who he is and how much money he has.
Because I just feel like that like censorship occurs on
such smaller levels with like regular everyday people. And he's
just like, he's literally talking about sexually assaulting a child,
regardless if he was a child himself. Like, it's so
on the line of like of a crime almost. And
(11:28):
I honestly like, if you talk about right now in
twenty twenty five, if you hear that a fourteen year
old kid is having sex with a nine year old kid,
like that kid, I'm sure that kid could get into
some kind of trouble for that. Yeah, And I definitely
think everybody can argue freedom of speed, not that it
makes it right, but like people in this country have
(11:49):
a right to say whatever they want. But of course,
when it's linked to these extremely problematic hate groups and
a crime of this nature, you have to really analyze
it like that. And I remember a couple of years
ago that Lena Dunham had written in her book that
she had I don't remember exactly what happened, but she
explained that in her childhood she had a sexual encounter
with either one of her siblings or one of her cousins.
(12:12):
And she got like canceled over that for talking about
that experience. For experimenting with one of her siblings or
a loved one. So I don't really know because you
have to pull it back and be like, the larger
problem is, is this is a crime that occurred when
he's fourteen years old with a nine year old if
that was the actual age gap. Yeah, I mean I guess,
(12:34):
I guess if he was writing a tell all book.
I mean, he's just talking about something that happened, and
then I understand, like, if this is true and this happened,
you understand where he comes from with It's almost bizarre, though,
that he was even attracted to that family because they're
(12:55):
so over sexed. But well, maybe that's why, because I
think sometimes terms of sexual trauma end up being predators themselves,
or they're attracted to people that act like that because
they don't know any different. And I'm not saying that
to defend his actions. I think he's clearly going through
a serious mental crisis right now. We're seeing that play
out every single day on the internet. But it's just like,
(13:18):
really crazy has happened. I guess there's always the possibility
is this true. I would say it probably is, because
I don't think he would just say it but who
knows because he just says the most shocking shit anymore.
I honestly, I don't know. Like when I read it,
I'm like, I think it's true. And then when you're
reading a lot of articles, it seems like he has
(13:38):
potentially referenced this but not have been so explicit about it,
just saying that that's why he's so concerned about his
kids because of stuff that happened when he was a kid,
but he doesn't go into detail like he is now.
And I just really like, I, like I said, I'm
just more concerned about like his kids. Just there's just
(14:02):
certain things that I mean, between both of the parents,
it's like, Okay, so now you have a mom who
became famous because of a sex tape, and then you
have a dad who just said that listen, no matter what,
they're gonna be damaged because, like I'm sorry to say,
they could do the best they can, but like they're
(14:23):
putting them in the public eye, they're letting them have
paparazzi take pictures of them and letting them go on
social media and seeing and being exposed to all this stuff.
So like, at the end of the day, there's many
celebrities that have children that people have never seen, so
it could be done. They're just just yeah, to do it.
It's crazy, Like I think it was Sarah Jessica Parker maybe,
(14:44):
like I don't know if she went to her sons
like a graduation. I don't know what it was, but
they it was like one of the first times she
ever showed a picture of the kid and he's like
in college. Well, yeah, because a lot of celebrities do
that and they've successfully done it, so I think there's
totally a way to do it. And obviously with them
it's a little harder because they're so famous and you're
(15:06):
gonna have just people on the street taking pictures of
your kids. But and it's like you can't not let
your kids go out in public because of that. But
they're putting them on a television show and letting them
go online and seeing all this stuff. So that's on
them at this point. And I mean everybody could argue
at this point too with Kim, with all this stuff
going on with him, she needs to work a little
(15:27):
harder to remove them from his presence because he's clearly
having a crisis and you shouldn't be exposing your children
to that. Yeah, I don't. I just don't even know
what to say. But it does explain a lot about
the the the sexuality with the with the new wife
girlfriend person and the nakedness and all. Like, it's just
(15:51):
it's just kind it's just like I, like, listen, I'm
a normal human and it's highly entertaining to read like
about these dramas because it's not happening in my life.
But when you think about little kids being involved, it's
kind of like really sad and pathetic and depressing. Actually, no,
it's really sad. That's like their real life, it really is.
(16:12):
They're just never going to have any semblance of a
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of gross. All right, So let's talk about this guy
that just flushes wipe's head down the toilet. I mean,
(18:00):
this is so ridiculous. In the UK, this couple have
been married for over thirty years, and the wife revealed
that during this during the seated argument, that she had
had an affair. So the husband doctor out with an
iron bar, cut her head off, crushed it with a mallet,
and then tried to flush the remains down the toilet.
I wonder, because of course they don't go into much detail.
I wonder how he got caught doing this. I mean, well,
(18:23):
he called the cops and said, you're gonna find two
dead bodies at my house, and then they got there
quicker than he expected, and they ended up finding him
in the process of trying to take his own life.
See it's interesting because there's been a couple cases. We
have a couple cases actually in the gross room about
people that murder people and try to push their remains
(18:44):
down the toilet, and how it goes terribly wrong because
obviously you can't fit body parts down a toilet like
you geah, like some tiny bani paper towel or like
a tampon gets clocked. So yeah, trying to stick someone's
head in there for sure. So this I think it
was a little bit of an overreaction. I could understand
being married for thirty years and being pissed that your
(19:05):
wife was cheating, but like just a little bit of
an overreaction. I guess my question too, is like how
long is the legal process in the UK because this
happened eleven years ago and this guy just got sentenced
to jail time. Really well, yeah, it's probably because of
COVID and all that bullshit they go. I mean, think
about that, for like years they were behind and didn't
(19:25):
do anything. So maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Also, why do they wear those little wigs? Do you
ever see this in their court? They wear these like
white wigs over their hair, like yeah, like why she
did style? Yeah? Like old school? Yeah. I just find
it interesting that they haven't progressed to that because I
who were recovering recently, Oh, in a necrophilia post when
we were covering that hospital electrician David Fuller. Yeah, when
(19:50):
I was looking up his case, there had been a
picture of a judge on his case that had one
of those just over her nice hair, and it was like,
that looks so ridiculous. I just interested why they keep
that up? But I guess he tried to portray that
he had this mental illness and said that he saw
his wife as a quote snake, but they didn't see
he had any signs of mental illness, I guess in
(20:11):
the case of pleading insanity. But clearly something was going
on because most people wouldn't react like that. Remember, wanted
a crime of passion. Remember one of our friends, her
ex boyfriend used to call her a snake in the grass.
We always used to laugh because she was like totally
she was like the best girlfriend ever and he just
like had all of this. He was the one that
(20:32):
had mental illness of like making up this stuff that
wasn't even existing. But he used to be like, you
were a sneak in the grass. But well, So the
craziest thing is that before she left work the day
before that she got before she got murdered, she said
to her coworkers, if I don't come to work, I
might be dead, So like she knew it was coming. Yeah,
(20:56):
and he has now been sentenced to twenty one years
in prison, but he has prostate can so he expects
he's gonna die there, which he's in his like what
late sixties anyway, So yeah, and if he's there for us,
if he doesn't have advanced stage prostate cancer, prostate cancer
is like one of those weird ones that if you
catch it early, it's like one of the best cancers
to have. But if you catch it late, then it's
(21:17):
barely bad cancer to have because it could spread to
your bones and stuff. So if he has, if he
got it caught early, then he's not dying from that
anytime soon. This next one is a tel on why
it is a bad idea to sniff your socks. I mean,
why is anybody doing this? But fairly it's happening. So
in China, this guy had developed this cough it wouldn't
(21:39):
go away, and after seeking medical treatment, doctors discovered he
had developed a fungus infection in his lungs from sniffing
his dirty socks at the end of his workday. Yeah.
I don't even understand how that conversation came up or
how doctors react to some things that they hear, but they,
I guess, you know, he had this chronic lung infection.
And what they do is they do a scan first
(22:01):
and they see and they confirm it, and then they
did a test called the broncoscopy is which is when
they put a tube down inside of the airway and
they had these little pinchers in there to take a biopsy,
and when they did the biopsy, they saw that he
had a mold or a fungus called Aspergillus, And they
start asking questions because we all breathe in as rgillus
(22:23):
all the time, and when you get enough inside of
you that it's actually causing an infection, it's either like
you have an exposure or you're immunosuppressed. This guy didn't
seem like he had that he was immuno suppressed. He
was an office worker, so they start asking him questions
like what would possibly be a reason, like what are
(22:44):
you breathing in all the time? And he was just like, well,
at the end of every single day, I smell my socks. Yeah,
Like this isn't like a one or two time occurrence.
It was part of his daily ritual, like get home
for work, get undressed, smell sucks. Yeah. It's when I
first saw this story, I thought it was going to
be one of these weird ones, you know how there's
like these only fans accounts or whatever that you can
(23:07):
like buy people's dirty socks and their underwear and stuff
like that. I thought it was going to be like
related to something like that No, it's just his it's
just it's just his own. But I got and I
don't really understand the attraction, but just that damp, salty
environment of shoes and not not even knowing if the
guy's changing his socks every day. That's a whole other thing.
(23:28):
But I mean, like I said, in the environment, we
breathe in spores from these these fungal elements all the time.
But but like you're essentially like putting it in your
face and breathing it in. And that's what happened. And
and you know, Aspergillis can cause an allergic reaction in
some people, but there's other times where it could in
(23:49):
the infection could spread from the lungs and get into
the brain and the kidneys, and it could kill you.
It could be really bad. So I mean it's it's
kind of a hilarious story, but at the same time,
like he could have got really hurt by this. Luckily
he was able to just get treated and he's fine now,
but we're all not fine for knowing that he does this. Yeah,
(24:11):
I really am not fine from knowing it. But whatever,
people want to do, whatever they want. I mean, there's
an entire show my strange addiction about people that do
weird stuff like this all the time. So I'll never
get that show. Yeah, and I'll never get over the
the whatever's over. The girl was like eating nail polish.
That was so disgusting. The only one that I could
relate to on that show was the woman that's left
(24:33):
with her hair dryer on, because, like, I like the
feeling of burning hot heat, so like I understand that
I would suggest to her getting like a space heater
or an electric blanket, and the hair dryer is a
terrible idea because of the fire hazard. But like I'm
just saying, all right, this last case is so we
(24:55):
talk about on this program from time to time when
people are when they die and then their animal eats
their body, right, we talk about that, But this is
a little bit of a different situation. Yeah, this one's
completely unacceptable. I mean, so outside of this post mortem
facility in India, staff and police were just busy chatting
it up. Meanwhile, just feed a couple feet away from them.
(25:17):
This dog was eating this unclaimed body for up to
ten minutes before they realized what was going on. Yeah,
so I guess the most disturbing part of this I mean,
aside from what Maria just said, is that the guy
had to go in and get an autopsy because they
didn't know why he died. And then sometimes you know,
they'll call the family and say or try to find
the family. Because sometimes they can't find the family, sometimes
(25:38):
they call the family. We've had this happen at the
hospital too, where people are you know, if you're not
expecting someone to die and they die and then all
of a sudden, it's like you got to drop all
this money for a funeral home to come pick up
the body and handle the body like people are. Sometimes
takes people a couple of days to gather money or
figure out what they're going to do, and they don't
claim the body. And we had a rule at the
(25:59):
hospital we would send the body to the medical examiner's
office actually if they didn't come and get it within
a certain amount of days. But at the medical examiner's office,
now you would pick up the body. The unclean body
would sit for however long until somebody eventually would get it.
But in this case, they had I mean, this is
(26:21):
in India, so they're not it's not like a formal
medical examiner's office and I don't know how they handled
things there, but the autopsy was done and the body
was just kind of like laying outside, I guess, waiting
for someone to come claim it, and these people that
were working there, the police and the Morgan employees, were
just like chatting it up and like not even paying attention,
(26:44):
and a dog came and like ripped his body to shreds.
But it's so disturbing because somebody drove by and recorded
it happening and posted it on social media and it
went viral. Yeah, of course it did. And it's again
this question we were having on yesterday's episode of like,
why are we so desensitized as a society that we
just take these videos? How could you have been stomach
(27:07):
watching this in person, let alone take it. I mean
I could stomach watching it. I kind of want to
see the video, Honestly, I don't know. I could not
stomach this happening. And then you just hear that the
staff and the police are just like just chit chatting
off to the side while this guy is getting torn
to shreds. It's really horrible. But we actually have a
really good external exam too about what happens to unclean
(27:27):
bodies all right. Well, on that note, thank you guys
so much for We'll see you in tomorrow's episode.
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have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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