Pope Francis Dies, Easter Egg Poisoning, FSU Shooting, Sperm Race Betting, Woman Fired After Donating Kidney to Boss, and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome the Mother Knows Death. News broke yesterday that
the Pope died, and we are going to talk about
all of the details of his death and funeral. We're

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also going to get into the shooting at Florida State University,
poisoned easter eggs, a woman who donated her kidney to
her boss and then got fired, and lots of talk
about sperm and seamen today. All of that and more
in today's episode. Let's start off with the Pope. So,
he died yesterday at the age of eighty eight years

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old from a stroke and heart failure. What's interesting when
a pope dies, however, is that their body is put
on public display. So I want to talk about that
a little bit. Yeah, So, I mean, he was eighty
eight years old and he had a stroke, and this
is not uncommon because a stroke is basically a heart
attack of the brain. So what happens is that there's

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a lack of oxygenated blood getting to the brain and
it could cause a part of the brain to die off,
and in this case, it caused him to die or
caused him to go into cardiac arrest and cause him
to die. So in this case, we're not like, this
is not anything crazy. He did have a bout of
double pneumonia at some point recently, and I don't even

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think that that necessarily.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Contributed to it.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
When we get older, our blood vessels just start getting
terrible in most people, and that's probably more than likely
what happened in this case. It could cause the blood
vessels to get weak and blood clots and plaques conform,
and that could cause like a clog in the artery
that's going and feeding blood to the brain, and that

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causes what's called an a ischemic stroke. They didn't say
if he had an eschema stroke versus a hemorrhagic stroke,
that would be if a blood vessel had burst in
the brain, that that would be a less likely outcome.
I'm pretty sure it's an a schemic stroke. But yeah,
So they put him on display public viewing for a

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week until Saturday, so almost a week after he died.
So obviously the first thing is, okay, well, they need
to embalm him to put him on display like that,
because once a person dies, they start decomposing right away
and if you put the body into refrigeration, it will
slow it down, but it doesn't completely stop it. And

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then as soon as you take the body out and
put it in room temperature, it's just going to start
rapidly decomposing as well. It's just kind of like the
talk I was having with you guys about the lamb
over Easter and putting it in the refrigerator, and you know,
like it only could be there a certain amount of
days before you have to put it in the freezer
because it because it breaks down it's meat, so it

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shouldn't break down before the cell by date.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That I can't.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh, I'll get into that later. But the smell is
still like in vibrated, it's permanently traumatized.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So yeah, So it's really cool because there's all of
these there's been studies on the pontiffs how they've treated
their deaths since since they started doing this, and it's
it's really interesting. So they've been embalming people with modern
day embombing techniques for quite some time. The first one

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that received the modern embalming was in nineteen fourteen, so
it's been over one hundred years since they've been doing it.
But this is interesting. So apparently Pope Pious the twelfth,
who died in nineteen fifty eight, had a botched embalming,
and apparently it was like really really bad. There was
this doctor that was in charge of embalming him and

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decided to put these herbs and spices and resin inside
of his body instead of embalming him, and then placed
it him inside of a plastic bag. And what happened
is that not only did he not slow down from decomposing,
but it actually accelerated it. And apparently his body was covered,

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but he was still out there and the guards had
to be rotated every fifteen minutes because it smelled so bad. Well,
I think that the person that performed that very that
quote unquote watched embalming, was saying that he believed this
was the way that Jesus Christ was preserved, so he
was trying to mimic the technique. Obviously, it failed miserably,

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so they were like, no, no, we're gonna stick with
the modern techniques. They also maybe should have practiced that
on someone else that was not this public display. So
it is interesting though, because in more recent times, apparently
John Paul the Second was not embalmed, and I don't
know why they exactly decided not to do that, but
in this case, they're going to do it. And the

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reason that they do that is they they essentially flush
the body of all of the blood and then they
put formaldehyde and embalming fluid through the body in order
to preserve it. It won't be preserved forever, but it
will be preserved for a very long time. I've seen
people pulled out of the ground being dead for a

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couple of years that kind of look the same way
that they were put in the ground, with like maybe
a little bit of mold on them. So and that,
and that makes another interesting conversation because apparently if these
popes want to become a saint one day and they
want to get canonized, they One of the things is
is that when their bodies are repulled out, how preserved

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they are, it almost makes them seem like they might
be a superior being if they're more preserved after so
many years of pulling them out, which really should just
be attributed to a good embalmer. But but whatever, just
like one of those weird religious things. Yeah, so they're
gonna put him out on and and I guess the
cool thing is it's being the most powerful person in

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the Catholic Church. You get to decide how you want
it to go down. And he really had this all
written out as to what he wanted. So he didn't
want his body to be I guess normally they would
put it up on a platform like oh, you know,
and he wanted it to be.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Like more chill.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
This makes me think of and also he wanted his
casket to be a little bit less extravagant. I think, well,
I think he was pretty popular because he my understanding
was he was a pretty humble person.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
So this tracks with everything he's asking for.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Listen, if you remember Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade,
do you remember when they had to pick what chalice
that Jesus would have drank out of?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay, and they had all.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
These really fancy ones and then they had this really plain,
like wooden one, and one of the German Nazis picked
like the fan and see us one in the room because.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
They were like, oh, of course he would have picked
this one.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And then Indiana Jones was like, no, he was a
carpenter and picked the wooden one, and that was like
that was the one that he got eternal life from
drinking from and the Nazi like melted in front of everyone.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Do you remember that, Yeah, it kind of remember.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Reminds me of that, Like even though they they're this
like super powerful person, they're they're the very basic or whatever.
So I guess in the past they have traditionally used
three caskets to bury popes because they which is kind
of disturbing, but it's it's almost certain that they're not
going to stay in the same location where they were buried,

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so they're going to be pulling them out and looking
at them again at some point. So they were doing
these three caskets that were had an airtight seal around it,
and now he's just having this one that's lined with
zinc or something like that. So I just think it's
I'm just curious as to why he pick that versus

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the other ones. Maybe it's it has the same effect,
I'm not sure, or maybe he thinks it will be
better for him to eventually become a saint one day. Well,
I also find it interesting. So he's gonna be the
first pope in over a century not to be buried
in Saint Peter's Basilica in the Vatican. He's gonna go
in the Saint Mary Major in Rome for his burial,

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So I think that's a really interesting choice too. Did
he say did he have reasoning for that? I'm probably
botching this, but I feel like I saw that he
wanted to be buried near this statue of the Virgin Mary.
But I probably misunderstood that reference because you know, we're

(08:42):
raised Catholic, but we're not practicing Catholics. So I'm like
trying to re educate myself about the practices as I'm
writing my notes for this episode. But I do find
this really fascinating culturally. I mean, people are flocking to
the Vatican to see his body right now, which is
a really interesting concept that people are going on these
lavish vacations just to see his body. Yeah, it is,

(09:05):
really it's it's kind of weird. Although that's that's more
of the norm. I mean, that's like, that's definitely a
Catholic thing. That's how we grew up. And you know,
when a person dies, they get a viewing all the time.
And another another interesting thing to think about is like
they they know how he died and he was old.
It wasn't like he just dropped dead unexpectedly, Although a

(09:28):
lot of articles were saying that people were kind of
shocked by it. I did think it was kind of
like weird that he died right after Easter.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That was just a little weird, right.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah. I was gonna say if it happened on either Friday,
Good Friday or Easter, it was it was giving mild conspiracy.
But I go down that path because that's gonna be
offensive to a lot of people. But yeah, the timing
was certainly interesting, but we all knew he was sick.
I mean, he was in the hospital for over a month,
not that long ago. I think at that's how we
were preparing for him to die. And then he did it,

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and he recovered miraculously, and then, you know, a couple
of days later, or not a couple of days later,
a couple months later, it ended up not being so
good for him. But I think it was pretty well respected.
And of course this brings up the big Oscar movie
that was going around this year, the Conclave, which was
this really dramatic film about how they picked the next pope.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I didn't see.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I think I'm gonna watch it tonight because now I'm
very interested to watch how that all goes down. Yeah,
it sounds like it's kind of a crazy processed. It's
almost it's almost like a jury in a way of it.
It's very hidden, and they put off smoke twice a
day because they're burning their whatever they were looking into

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and stuff in between, the first in the morning and
then at night and then I don't know. It just
sounds like it sounds like a crazy process. But interested
to see how that goes It's interesting too, because I
was thinking, obviously this is different than a monarchy or
like the presidency, but when a president dies or a
monarch dies, there's no gap in between a leader, right,

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So when a president dies immediately, the vice president has
been made the president, and when the monarch dies immediately,
the successor has been now made care It is weird
that there's not that you wouldn't want the current person
to be in on those conversations about who's going to
take over, you know. But I guess that might be
a good thing if if most of the people didn't

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really like that person, so I could see and and
really like they're not they're not I know that they're
leading like the Catholic religion and stuff, but like if
they're not there for a week, like what's going to happen.
Pope Francis was also the first pope from the Americas
to be the pope, so there's never been like somebody

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from the United States, and he was from Argentina, So
I find it interesting, like going forward, are they going
to try to pick somebody from a different cultural background,
because I think most of the time European guys, So
I find that is pretty interesting, even though not really
that into practicing religion, but I just think culturally it's
very interesting. Okay, let's get into this FSU shooting. So

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last week, you know that we recorded with Tom Smith
of the gold Shields podcast, and I went to Target
afterwards to get my kids some stuff for Easter, and
he texted me and told me that he was on
the news talking about this latest school shooting. And I'm
just like, how is it that I was gone off
of the radar for a half hour and something like
this happened? And sure enough I look it up online

(12:31):
and saw that there was yet another school shooting. We
don't typically cover them on here because they're just too
upsetting and they just happen all the time, but we
think this one has some crazy background story, so we
should probably get into it. Yeah, I want to start
off talking about the background of the shooter. Who is
this twenty year old male. So when he was eleven,

(12:53):
his biological mother had told his father she was taking
him to Florida on spring break, but ended up kidnapping
him and taking him to Norma amid this giant custody
battle they were having, and the dad didn't even know
at first until the kid ended up telling him on
the phone and she had him in Norway for a
couple of months. I mean, you are a single parent
at one time that shared custody of me with my dad,

(13:15):
and that would have never flown with you. You know,
you can't just be taking your kids out of state
or to other countries against the other parents' wishes. Yeah,
I mean, but I mean people do it though, no
people do it all the time, but it's still kidnapping,
even if it's your own child. I feel like sometimes
most of the time when we see these amber alerts,
it ends up being one of the parents. Yeah, And

(13:38):
I don't really know because honestly, like it's bizarre if
the dad had full time custody of the kid anyway,
and the mom was having visitation. That's like not typical
at all. No, So that makes me think, Okay, what
was going on there? But also is it possible, just
knowing what we know now, that the mom was like,

(13:59):
I don't want that kid there because of what's going
on in that house and stuff. I mean, there clearly
was like family instability with this child, and of course
there is from time to time with adults, and then
kids get wrapped up in their bullshit, you know. Yeah,
I mean it's hard to say because we're not in
the house, so we don't really know what went down,

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and we are just having a conversation recently how you
could be the best parent in the world and your
kid could still end up being disturbed or having issues.
Clearly this kid was having severe mental health issues. His
father had said he was on medication for several health
and mental issues, including a growth hormone disorder in ADHD.
So moving forward to this shooting, you know, he goes

(14:42):
on this campus and open fire. He killed two, he
ends up hurting six, and when the police got there,
they shot him and were able to retrieve weapons.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Off of him.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
One of which was a handgun believed to be the
old service weapon of his stepmother, who is a sheriff's deputy.
So I guess one of the things that we should
address is if the father is saying that this kid
had several health and mental issues, including a growth hormone
disorder which I don't know exactly what that is in

(15:13):
ADHD or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, why was he allowed
to be in a house that had weapons that were
not secured or even had weapons in it period. Well, yeah,
of course, so this is the problem in most of
these cases. So do you remember recently that parents in

(15:37):
a Michigan school shooting had were like the they were
the first case of parents getting charged for their kid
doing something like this. I think that that should be
heavily looked at in this case. Yeah, I mean, this
is my first question too, because I'm reading that this
weapon is an old service weapon of his stepmother, who
is a police officer. So I'm just confused about the

(16:00):
process of that. Did they not only have one weapon
assigned to them that they bring home, and don't they
have certain standards they have to abide by as a
police officer to lock them up, And why is there
an older one in the house. You don't have to
turn that one in. I don't understand why somebody would
have multiple that they're bringing home from their office.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, I mean that people have lots of guns in
their house, like who cares, No, I'm talking about service
weapons in particular. Yeah, I mean whatever, Like the kid,
The bottom line is it doesn't matter if she if
she had it locked up, it wasn't good enough. Like
whatever was the problem wasn't good enough. So yeah, it's
almost like in this case, you know, because we're always

(16:41):
having this debate, and we had this great interview For
those of you who are newer to Mother Knows Death
when we started, god almost two years ago now or
like a year and a half ago, I would say, yeah,
our very second episode of Mother Knows Death was with
a doctor, Jonathan Metzarl and he is an expert on

(17:03):
school shooting and it was really interesting if you guys
are interested in listening to that episode about all of
the different reasons because he since he studies them, he
looks into everything like the gun situate, because usually it's
like one side's like it's the guns, the other sides,
like it's mental health, and he really goes into how
there's just a combination of different so many different things

(17:24):
that go into it that it's just not easy to
pinpoint it specifically to one thing or another. And this
is a good example of this case because this person,
this gun that was used, was, or at least one
of the weapons that was used, was a police officers
who would have a weapon regardless of anything. They would

(17:45):
always have a weapon. So now it's like, okay, and
then you look at the history and you're just like
a child going through all of this stuff between getting
kidnapped as a child and living with his dad and
stepmother and just all of these underlying mental health things
that this kid may have been going through at the time.

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I don't know what led to it, but let me
tell you something interesting. So one of our listeners as
well as a grocery member, had messaged me right after
this happened and said that she was a student at
FSU and she she was going to school there and
telling me everything that was going on and just how
crazy it is from a student's perspective. And shockingly, she

(18:30):
messaged me a couple days ago and she said you know.
First she was like, I hope they just canceled the
rest of the semester and we wanted them back yesterday.
They wanted the best yes. So then she writes me
and says, you won't believe this, but they're not. They're
not canceling anything. It's just like business as usual. And
I'm sure they got a lot of pushback from not

(18:50):
only the students but their parents that are paying for
them to go to school. There some of them just
being like that was a super traumatic event that my
kids just went through. Like I think about something like
that happening, and then you having to take these important
tests to get these grades that will affect the rest
of your college life. Right, they're just like, I'm sorry,
but when you were just running for your life, what

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are there Some stories of students in the classroom, like
they were trying to hang paper on the windows to
hide the fact that there were people in the windows,
and kids didn't have any tape and the teacher they
didn't have any tape, so they were literally chewing pieces
of gum to make glue to stick paper on the
windows to hide themselves in a room. Do you think
that they're going to be like, all right, let's get

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studying for that science exam, Like, come on, I mean,
it's outrageous, but they they've since gone back and said
that students could take it at their own pace or whatever.
It was absolutely ridiculous that the university wanted them to
come back four days after this incredibly traumatic event. We
can argue, and it was like over the weekend. It

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was just like, yeah, you had the weekend off and
it was Easter weekend. It's just like, come on, dude,
like what are you talking about right now?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think we can argue.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're living in this society of people that are a
little soft by things happening, But this is not one
of those instances. This is an incredibly dramatic event. It
should be treated as such. It's a special circumstance. It's
almost like, how dare you assume they're gonna be okay
in four days? Even if you were a victim of this,
you can't go out in public comfortably. And to your point,

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they're about to hit finals and take tests that are
going to affect the rest of their collegiate careers and
eventually their professional lives. How could you possibly expect somebody
to be focused.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
When it happened.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I see what they were thinking, because it's kind of
like that, we're not going to let the terrorists win.
We're not going to shut this down and do.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
This four days.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I just I do think that it's like, all right,
like come on, it is a little bit, but the
craziest So this woman that I was talking to, she
she also was sending me some messages telling me that
you know, because now this is also just like so
much more complex the more and more social media is
involved in stuff. And one of his friends was writing

(21:08):
all these things about how these people deserved it because
he was bullied and this is what he gets and
this and that.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
But then it's.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Like like you use that and then you say, Okay,
well the guy killed two people that worked there that
he appeared to have nothing to do with or not
even know they were, like I think one person was
visiting the university and the other person was a worker
at the university. Like he just killed random people, shot

(21:35):
other random people. And it's just like, it's no excuse
if you get bullied to do something like that.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, it's no excuse in general.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
And it's especially like why even bring it up if
you're not even if you're hitting random people, like if
you're hitting the bullies. I understand that defense, not that
it makes it okay, but I understand you bringing up
that point. But like you're just targeting completely random people.
So what what did they have to do with it?
I mean, was he even a student there? So apparently

(22:06):
he was a student there, I believe. I don't know
if he was currently a student, but he was at
some time apparently.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
The mom This is what makes it.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I mean, I don't know, because you know a lot
of people like this in your real life that they
they're no longer together, and there's like a lot of
drama between the husband and the wife or the girlfriend
or boyfriend whatever that had this kid together. So it
just seems like it was one of those relationships. But
like when kids are in the middle of that, it's
just it's a terrible like they're using the children as

(22:39):
pawns and it's terrible. Well, this drives my constant point
that people should not be marrying and pro creating with
people they are not really in love with, because when
you're putting a child in a tumultuous situation like this,
and of course can cause them distress. Well, you can't
say that, though, because a lot of times people are
in love and they don't really.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
While I'm not.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Talking about the people that are in love and it
doesn't work out, I'm talking about these people and there's
many of them that have no business getting married. They
admit they don't love the person they're marrying, and they
have kids and there's no love in the entire house. Well,
people are gonna do what they're gonna do, And like
his mother, sometimes people don't really understand that. They just

(23:22):
do it because it's convenient or because they're pressured from
their family or something. But something was clearly up in
this house obviously behind the kidnapping. Also a point I
wanted to make is that the mother and the son
the shooter had dual citizenship between the United States and Norway,
which is how she was able to bring him over
there and keep them over there for so long. But

(23:42):
obviously it's still a kidnapping situation, and his biological mother
ended up suing his father and stepmother and her son
for defamation after the fact. There was just like this
craziness going on all around. This kid just seems like
he had a totally unstable lifestyle, Yeah, which could definitely
be attributed. So like, let's say that kid's going and

(24:05):
dealing with that at home, and then he goes to
school and he's getting bullied at school. It's like the
bullying at school is contributing. But like when you don't
really have an escape, especially when you're a young kid
or with social media, it just never goes away exactly like,
it just never goes away. You never get a release
and to be able to just not deal with that,

(24:26):
and it sucks because you feel terrible for what happened there.
But let's talk about another thing with this particular case
was the video that went viral after this. I mean,
this is getting so out of control with people just
taking videos and not worrying about what's happening to other people.
So this video goes viral of this woman just holding

(24:47):
a Starbucks cup and very quickly in the background you
just see one of the victims bleeding out on the ground.
I'm like, A, what's wrong with our society today that
A you're not so scared for your life that you're
running there's guns you here in the background, and B
there's a clear person bleeding out in front of you,
and instead of trying to help them out or at

(25:07):
least try to save yourself, you're just so worried about
taking a video and then.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Posting it online. Yeah, I think that was the most
disturbing part for me.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Like, I understand, in a school shooting, there's going to
be plenty of times where you see somebody laying on
the ground that's dying, and like, in all honesty, what's
a regular person? The person's probably like a nineteen year
old kid, Like, what the hell's she going to do
to help? And I understand help this victim, but like
in a normal circumstance, if you were at an active

(25:37):
shooter scene, you would be ducking and hiding and like
making yourself off the radar as much as possible. But
this woman decided that she had to document this, which
she didn't even get anything good. It just went viral,
and it went viral because people were like, what the
hell is wrong with you, lady? Yeah, And like, let
me tell you something. If I'm hearing gunshots, my our

(26:00):
books cup ain't even in my hand anymore. Exadly, right,
I'm running for cover. I've certainly not in her tornado
cave I'm going in my tornado cave in my house.
I'm not worried about maintaining the coffee I just bought,
even though they charged ten dollars for a coffee. Now,
let alone, you know, whipping out my phone and holding
this drink and trying to take a video to go viral.

(26:22):
In what world do you think you're going viral in
a good way for this?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I mean, I don't even think that this woman really
understands the ramifications of this, because I feel like if
the video got posted online, it was posted to some account,
and someone's going to figure out who this woman is,
and like she's going to be ostracized from the community, obviously,
and she set herself up for that just because she
wanted to be first. And that's a whole entire that's

(26:49):
just like a whole entire issue with humans in general,
and a very interesting one because now it's and I
think we were talking about this actually with Tom last week,
that you can go on Twitter or on Instagram and
get the news sometimes hours before the news actually reports
it because regular people don't have to fact check, and

(27:10):
people are just looking to go viral, and they just
don't they don't care. And we see this all the
time in the gross room, with so many videos that
we post of people just horrific accidents maybe falling off
a motorcycle and stuff, and instead of a person going
up to them and consoling them and just saying like, hey,
I just want to let you know that I'm here

(27:30):
and we call nine one one, because that's what you
want to hear. If you're shot and you're laying there
and you're still alive, it would just be nice for
someone to say to you, like, hey, helps on the way,
You're not alone, and like I understand if the bullets
were flying live, but she didn't really look like she
was scared. She didn't look like she was scared. It's
concerning how desensitized we are that we think it's okay

(27:53):
to be taking videos like this, let alone, not even
trying to protect yourself. I mean, she was still an
open target at this point. And we know so far
that this girl in the video has survived because the
two people that died from this were males and it's
clearly a female in this video, so we know that
person has survived. And now there's this video circulating of

(28:14):
them on the internet heading out and I'm actually I'm curious,
Like once she comes to and she's she's I know
that she's done a couple of interviews, so she's getting better, thankfully,
But once.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
She realizes that this video has.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Been going viral of her bleeding like that and someone
just being like, oh, look over there, like what how
is she going to feel about that? And then I
mean she's everybody's going to find out who that person
is eventually, and it's just that's that's like really a
gross feeling.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Honestly.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I mean I think that person that took the
video needs to bare minimum change schools or like consider
doing college online identities.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
And yeah, moved to another country.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
The problem is if you move to another country, now
it's like your your viral thing went everywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
There's nowhere to hide anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Just what a stupid decision to make to do that.
And it's just concerning, like you weren't concerned for your
life at any point during this You can hear gunshots
of the background.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
All right, So let's talk about So Easter was this
weekend and this is an interesting story that has to
do with poisoned Easter eggs.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, so in Brazil.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
This thirty five year old woman had bought chocolate Easter
eggs and then she poisoned them, got them delivered to
her ex's new girlfriend's house. They keep preferring that her
ex husband has this new family. So she sends these
poisoned Easter eggs to the new family with this anonymous
card just saying Happy Easter. So this woman passes out

(29:41):
the chocolate Easter eggs, each one of them herself, gives
two of them to her two kids, and then her
seven year old son ended up getting severely ill and
dying and now her and her thirteen year old daughter
are in critical condition.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Oh my god, what a psycho.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
And they so they show video they found her. They
found her buying the Easter eggs and she was wearing
a black wig when she bought them. They found receipts
for chocolate eggs, two wigs, scissors, cards, a special knife
to a small little knife to cut open the eggs.
I guess to put in the suspected drugs. They never

(30:18):
really said exactly what the poison was, but they're doing
an autopsy on the kid, so apparently he got sick
and died pretty quickly. So I would say something like
cyanide maybe. I mean, I guess like something like fentanyl too,
if they had access to it. There's all different kinds
of poisons you could give people, and especially a little
seven year old. You don't need much, right, It's just

(30:42):
it's so psychotic, like you actually thought that you were
going to get away with that. Well, it's psychotic. She
thought she was gonna get away with it. And then
when the police were interviewing the eggs husband they were
he immediately said, I think my ex wife has something
to do with it. And then of course they find
this CCTV footage of her in the grocery store with
the that's ridiculous disguise on buying the eggs. She's denying

(31:03):
she said she bought the eggs, but she's denying poisoning them.
And everybody's like, yeah, okay, and apparently she had tried
to poison them before. This is like the second attempt. Yeah,
And it's just like, this is one thing I always
think about every single time you hear about these stupid crimes.
When people are like they'll call and say, oh, my
girlfriend just fainted and I don't know what happened, and

(31:24):
then they do the autopsy and they're like, no, there's
evidence of manual strangulation. Like do you think that you're
just gonna say something and like people are gonna believe you,
Like you know, forensic files has been on for such
a long time, Like you don't know that they that
they're able to like check this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's just like all they're going to do.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
They they literally have the leftover chocolate, they'll test it
and see if the drugs are in it. It's like
a clearcut thing, I know, and they'll see the same
drugs in the kid. And then they saw you on
video buying it. Like hello, guys, you're gonna love the

(32:04):
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profile death dissection, as promised, is necrophilia, and we get

(32:27):
into a lot of really disturbing things that I probably
was way better off not knowing. We also talk about
a case this week of extreme constipation, and there's so
much more. We have also just talking about that school shooting.
I uploaded the photo that the video of that woman
that went viral on social media to and we had

(32:49):
a discussion about about this citizen journalism that we like
to call it that, and it's it's very interesting because
most people kind of are on the same page that
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(33:15):
Oh god, this next story is is really terrible? Is
it not? Like so bizarre how everything went down? It
just doesn't really add up. So in the Bronx, police
got this anonymous call to check on this apartment because
of a foul odor and neighbors saying they hadn't seen
this woman or her children in a couple of weeks.
So they go knock on the door and nobody answered,

(33:36):
and they're saying, oh, we don't have a right to
barge in, so we'll come back in a couple of days. Yeah,
that's where it gets weird to me. And I don't
know what the rules of that are, but Apparently the
neighbors were calling and saying, not only did they not
see the kids, but there was like a weird smell
coming from the house. But I guess the cops said
they didn't smell it, so that's why they didn't feel

(33:56):
like they had reason to break in.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
And I guess you could kind of under stand.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
That because like, listen, like what if I just went
on vacation for two weeks with with Gabe and the girls,
and then one of my neighbors was like, that's weird.
We haven't seen them in a couple of weeks, Like,
they can't just break into my house.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm more like the foul smell, Like if the neighbors
were smelling it, how did the cops not smell it?
And clearly it was a d cop smell, and I'm
assuming police officers are familiar with that ouder. I don't know,
they must maybe I don't know if that's the thing,
but I mean they said they didn't smell, so whatever.
So anyway, apparently, a couple days later, the landlord calls

(34:34):
this woman, the renter's father and asked if she moved
out because he hadn't heard from her and I'm like, again,
you're not like knocking on the door, going in there
or anything. So the dad was like, you know what,
I haven't really heard from her in a couple of
days and called her older daughter and take, can you
go check on your mom and your siblings. So the
daughter goes to the apartment and then ends up finding

(34:54):
her mother and her eight year old brother dead. Well,
her four year old sister is alive and had been
surviving on eating chocolate.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
God thank god, she's only four.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I mean, I know that there'll be parts of that
that she'll remember, but like, at least she's not a
little bit older. Yeah, because how terrible. So I guess
the mom the mom was pretty young. She was she
was thirty eight, So her son was born premature and
had a feeding tube and they so they believe the

(35:28):
thirty eight year old they're going to have to do
an autopsy and see exactly what she died. But she
had a long standing history of mental illness, possibly bipolar.
I don't know, in my opinion, based upon some of
the things I'm hearing from the neighbors, possible schizophrenia or
something that was causing psychosis. And they don't really know
exactly she had a history of asthma. They don't know

(35:50):
exactly how she died, but they think that the kid,
the boy with the feeding tube, is probably likely starved
to death because obviously there was no one to feed
the kid, which is so heartbreaking. And then the little
girl who was only four years old was surviving off
of chocolate, but was in this apartment with two with

(36:13):
her brother and her mother dead, bloated, decomposing maggots, flies
like the whole nine yards, I mean, just with this
whole thing too. They didn't hear this kid screaming or
making any noise or anything.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Maybe the kid was is in some kind of shock
that she just didn't she'd I don't even know how
a person reacts in that, and especially a little kid.
I mean, luckily, she's alive, and hopefully she's going to
go she's going to be with the with the rest
of her family now right or at least is right now,
and hopefully she'll go on to have a normal life.

(36:49):
Because this is just so it's just so disturbing, and
it's actually really disturbing for that other child, the older
child that had walked in and found that well, of course,
because you're also like, police could have possibly discovered this
days before and saved that daughter from having to see
that scene. So what really bothers me about this case

(37:11):
more than anything is that this mom apparently had a
child services case pending against her, because back in twenty
twenty one she was put on child abandonment charges because
she was caught acting erratically swinging her then infant daughter.
So that's the four year old around in a stroller
and lighting a wig on fire in front of a store.

(37:33):
And then the neighbors were saying that she had multiple
episodes of like one time she threw paint out the
window and then she said that the devil was talking
to her. This is what's making me think that she
has some kind of psychosis, and made several references to
the devil talking to her. She went on the building's
rooftop a couple years ago with the boy, the one

(37:54):
that was born premature, and said that she wanted to
kill herself and him, And she also said she wanted
to kill everyone on the block. Like why was she
allowed to have access to her children.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
At all, be alone with them?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
That With that in mind, that's even more concerning Yeah.
So I mean that to me is like, and god,
we hear about this with every single case when child
Service is involved. It seems like such a shit show
in every single state in the country. But I just
am like, I don't even understand how those kids So
now it's like, well, one's dead and the other one
has severe emotional trauma and possibly even medical issues for

(38:32):
not eating for for however long the bodies were gone.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, I just I hate hearing this.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I mean, yeah, we saw with the Ruby Frank case too,
where people had been very hip to what was going
on and sent child Services and they're just like, well,
we don't see anything wrong. And of course, of course
you shouldn't just willy nilly have your kids taken away
from you, obviously, but if it's this severe, come on,
I just think alone, if you're standing on top of

(38:59):
a roof threatening to kill yourself and your child, I
think that alone, is just like, Okay, these kids need
to get taken away for a while until we figure
out what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
No, of course, all.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Right, So this next story is it's weird because when
we started looking it up, it happened like over ten
years ago, but all of these people were sending it
to us this week because apparently it was going viral
on TikTok, So we thought we'll talk about it because
it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
So this goes back to twenty twelve, and it certainly
is interesting. So this woman's boss told her she needed
a new kidney, and because this lady was just nice,
she said she offered to donate her kidney to the boss.
So it turns out that she wasn't a match for
her boss, but doctors had said that if she donated
her kidney too another patient, that it would move her

(39:46):
boss up on the list. This woman goes forward and
has her kidney removed. It took her longer than expected
to recover, and then when she goes back to work,
the boss is first criticizing her for how long it
took her to come back to work after her recovery,
and then ends up just getting totally abusive. She demotes her,
she transferred her to a different location which was really

(40:08):
far from her home, and it just kept continuing on
and on and on to the point where the woman
eventually got fired. So she's like donating an organ to
help her boss out, and then the same boss ends.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Up firing her months later.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, the whole thing is just outrageous. And I think
that in general, like this lady is just a really
nice person and she felt terrible for this lady. I mean,
you feel terrible when you see that somebody is going
to die without getting an organ and you could potentially
help them. But at the same time, this lady was
a divorced mom of two, So getting a surgery like that,

(40:44):
you're putting your own life at risk as well for
something like this, And it wasn't even for like her
sister or her parent, it was for her boss. And
on top of that, so when you say about being
a good match with somebody when you get organ donation,
there's three different types of tests done, which is they
test your blood type, they do a cross match, and

(41:05):
then they do HLA testing. And HLA testing is done
because there's these different proteins on the cells and they
want to make sure that they found that there's six
of them that are the best you have the best
chances of not rejecting the organ. So if they can
get a match to as close to six of them
as possible, the better chance you are of not rejecting

(41:29):
the organ. So obviously an identical twin would have the
same match as this person. A sibling could have a
very close match, but like someone that's complete strangers, the
chances of all of those tests matching up are are
not always great. So she was she was being extra
nice to just give it to a complete random stranger

(41:50):
in order to just give her one chance on the list.
Is that normal that they would recommend that, because that
mean that they're like, oh, well, we know you're not match,
but just give it to someone else to push her up. No.
I just felt like that was personally Yeah, I personally
think that I can't imagine that someone would actually say

(42:12):
that to her, but they might say, like, hey, they
they definitely would ask because they just need kidney donors, right.
They would definitely say like, hey, I know you didn't
match for this person, but if you were to donate
your kidney, it could go to someone else, Like I
guess in theory, they would say that out loud to her,
but they wouldn't pressure her at all to do it.

(42:34):
They would just tell her that, like, hey, in theory,
if you give it to someone else, then that's one
less person on the list. Although I just think that
that's ridiculous because the list is just so long.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So I don't, I don't know. I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I don't know honestly, like what the whole story is.
But it's it's just interesting that this lady went all
the way through with this and and then But but like,
at the same time, you're not guaranteed to be to
have a job for the rest of your life because
of it. Okay, So at first, when I was reading
this story, I thought that she ended up giving her

(43:09):
her kidney to the boss, and the boss went through
with the surgery as well and got her kidney right.
And remember I had written that article for the Gross
Room about people that got organ transplants that started taking
on personality traits, yeah, of the purse.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Of the organ they were donated.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
So I was thinking, like, what if she had some
residual hate in her body transferred to the boss.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
So it's so ridiculous that that is ridiculous. Important the
concept that people get organ donations or organ transplants and
end up taking the qualities from the donors is ridiculous
in general.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
It is cool.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Wait, this just made me think of something, didn't something
like this happen with Selena Gomez that she.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Got a kid like what happened with that?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
So from my memory, her best friend at the time
donated because Selena Govez has lupis and she needed a
kidney transplant, and from my understanding, her best friend at
the time donated her kidney, and then they ended up
like not being friends a couple of years later, and
everybody was criticizing Selena Goas for that, saying this woman.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
So it's essentially the same thing.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
It's kind of the same thing, like like people were
accusing her of using this girl to get a kidney,
and then I was like, yeah, I don't need you anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Basically, well now she's got the anger of the organ
inside her body, so she can't escape it. I know
that is so ridiculous to say, but when I was
writing that article about the people taking all the different traits,
I was like, there's just no way this is real.
And then so many people in the gross room were
saying they knew somebody that happened to I'm just like,
there's no way this is a possibility.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
No, it is. I've heard that before, for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
It's so ridiculous, but it also could just be like
a placebo thing like you you know, you just wouldn't
really notice it if, like, like right now, if I
had another organ in me, I could be like, you know,
I have been thinking differently lately, you know, like you
could tell yourself a lot of different things.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Well, I believe the one.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Lady I wrote about said she hated beer, and then
after she got an organ transplant, it's all she ever wanted,
which is so weird. You know what, There's certain things
in life that you're like, I used to love that,
Like Momm's a good example. She used to drink coffee
all the time, and now she doesn't like coffee anymore.
Like it's just because she's weird. It has nothing to
do with the organ transplant. Speaking of weird, this Friday,

(45:32):
the world's first competitive sperm race will be held at
the Hollywood Palladium. I am really curious as to like
how these people got together and even really thought about this,
But I honestly it's kind of cool. Well it's even
weirder because it's four teenagers that are spirit aading this
whole thing. So when I worked in psychology, I used

(45:55):
to have to look at seman specimens under the microscope
for people who were not only having fertility issues but
also ones that were post getting a vasectomy to make
sure that it worked. And the whole thing was just
like I just I'm not into it. You know why
I wasn't into it because the lab that I worked at,
it wasn't just like I got this cop of semen

(46:16):
and that's it. It was just like you saw the
guy that was dropping it off to you and they
had to go jerk off in the bathroom, like the
same bathroom that we used as same reise. And one
time one of my coworkers worked walked in on a
guy that was sitting on the floor like jerking off.
There was a toilet, he could have been sitting on
the toilet, but he was sitting in the middle of

(46:37):
the floor, and she just like it was it was like,
actually hilarious. He left and didn't give his specimen. I
mean obviously, like it's weird. They didn't have a specific
room for them, because I feel like fertility clinics have
like special little rooms for well, it wasn't a fertility clinic.
That's why it was the hospital, like cold Cut Dry
City hospital, Like I don't know what to tell you.

(46:59):
I just thought it was I just thought it was weird,
and like I'd be like, oh, I have to go
to the bathroom, and then I would walk down the
hallway and like see this guy there. It just was
so awkward, and I knew what he was doing in there,
so it just was like, I don't know, I just
was kind of uncomfortable with it.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
It was weird.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
But so what they're doing is they're doing this live
feed that's magnified forty times and it shows the sperm
which are only zero point five millimeters small, and they
swim five millimeters a minute. So it's saying that each
race will take about forty minutes and whoever crosses the
finish line first is the winner. Well, it's it's just

(47:40):
so funny. So they're taking the samples from two male
students with matching biomarkers at rival schools, so they it's
like UCLA versus USC. So, yeah, they said, once the
samples are taken, they're gonna place them in a pipe
bett and inject them into this device in the center
of the venue, and then they're gonna live stream it.
Like you're saying, So it's going to be just like

(48:01):
every other sporting event, there's going to be live commentating, replays,
and even sports betting. It's kind of amazing that they
thought of this, honestly. Well, they're trying to bring awareness
to male infertility because apparently in twenty twenty two, a
study was published in Human Reproductive Update Journal and said
that male sperm counts have been declining more than fifty

(48:22):
percent in the past five decades, so there's clearly something
going on. They say that it could be due to
a low sperm count because of alcohol and drinking. Honestly, like,
people don't want to say that that affects it, but
it does. So smoking, drinking, alcohol, regular sleep patterns, maintaining

(48:47):
a healthy way. Again, obesity is shown to lower sperm counts.
So they're just trying to bring awareness to it and
hopefully like increase sperm counts in men. I guess with
this awareness.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
It's kind of amazing, all right.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
So, speaking of speaking of semen, there's a new viral
TikTok going around. Yeah, this video is going around discussing
the benefits of swallowing sperm, but people are really up
in arms about it. So this there's a woman that's
in scrubs. Now, this is something that I don't think
we've talked about on the show too, but I've been

(49:22):
seeing a lot that there's like these weird AI videos
going around that there's people that have accounts that are
pretending to be doctors and like the whole entire thing
is AI. Like the person's into scrubs. Well, yeah, of
course it's probably been going on for years. Yeah, exactly. So,
so it's a woman that's in scrubs and it's saying
that semen is it offers women health benefits. I guess

(49:45):
men too for swallowing. It helps you get better sleep,
is a natural antidepressant, improves memory, gives you energy back,
It's it's multi vitamins, gives you, it says, gives you
best appetit, which to me, I'm kind of like, who
the fuck talks like that? Well, AI talks like that exactly.
That's what makes me think AI it's a natural pain reliever,

(50:08):
prevents morning sickness, and helps you glow when you're after
you have a baby and and while you're pregnant too,
and also is good for postmenopausal health. It sounds like
some guy made this video with AI that's just like, Yeah,
I just want to give like women and men reasons
to give blowjobs all the time, all the way up

(50:30):
until they're old. Like we'll tell them that their bones
are going to be stronger if they do it. Well,
that's exactly what I was gonna say. And I was
listening to a podcast a couple of weeks ago, and
one of the girls on it was talking about how
her holistic doctor was trying to suggest that for her,
and the other women were like, you need to find
a different doctor. This doesn't sound it is really like

(50:50):
I mean, if you look at the composition of semen,
you might say, like, Okay, there's a little bit of
protein in it, and there's a little bit of nutrients
in it, and there's a little bit of hormones in
it that in theory could provide some kind of extra
benefits to you from swallowing, right, But you would need
to consume gallons of it in order to get any

(51:11):
benefits from it, which is just like I'm just saying,
I'm thinking about like a giant jug of Elmer's glue
or something nasty. But like it's like come on now,
like it just it doesn't like you would just need
way too much of it. There has been studies done
though that shows that it has natural antidepressant effects, but

(51:32):
they're not able to say just studied dubbi like I
just haven't no, like listen, but listen, Like when they're
studying these people, they'll say, Okay, like all of these
women it seemed to be having a better mood after
doing this study. But like maybe it's just because they
had sex, like they it's it's not because of the semen,
like they don't know. They're saying, there are other factors

(51:54):
that might influence it, such as the sexual activity itself. Like, yeah,
you think this scene this seems rigged. I'm called bulsh
All right, let's move out the questions of the day.
Every Friday at that mother knows that Instagram account, you
guys can head over to our story and ask us
whatever you want. First, If a morbially obese person were
to be stabbed with the fat layer protect from hitting

(52:15):
an artery, I mean, yeah, in theory, it could you
have the panis layer of the subcutaneous fat. And sometimes
when people are morbially obese, it's it's very thick. It
could be a couple inches in thickness. So if you're
sticking a three inch knife in that normally would get
through somebody faster if they were thinner versus hitting that

(52:38):
block of fat, then sure, And even you could say
visceral or organ fat could also definitely change the trajectory of.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
A knife angle.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
It just depends on I mean, like if it's a
butcher knife or some long knife that's ten inches long,
like that's not going to help anybody. But yeah, if
it's a smaller knife, for sure. Two, why don't you
all record together anymore? Like in the same room. Well,
we've never recorded together in the same room. I was like,

(53:10):
did we ever record in the same room? It's you know,
I'm sure it's easy in some capacity, but considering I've
learned how to do audio engineering via the School of YouTube,
this ended up being an easier option for us, and
we can make it much neater and I don't know,
I mean, hopefully one day we could progress. Yeah, but

(53:33):
I think it's fine this way because you then you
don't have to come over my house because you're here,
like you don't have to drive over here every day,
And I listen, it's for me, it's better because I
don't I don't like the distraction. Like I'm in my
own zone here right now, and if you were sitting
next to me, then you would be like when are
we having for lunch and like annoying the shit out

(53:55):
of me and telling me all these stories. Plus it
would make our workday like twenty times longer because we
would be talking about all this other stuff in between. Yeah.
I also find that sometimes when we do the audio
only episodes and I'm at your house, I like can't
look at you while I'm talking because I lose my
train of thought. I looking at you via the computer.
I could look between my notes and you, but also

(54:18):
I'm monitoring all of the levels and making sure the
recording's going well. So if we were together in the
same room, I feel like it would just be too
much for my brain and I wouldn't contribute much to
the conversation because I'm like doing five jobs at one
time and it's very difficult. But this works for us.
But maybe one day we could have a cute set,
But I don't know. I like our setup brain now

(54:40):
I have this nice gorgeous wallpaper. We do have dreams
of having like a nice set and maybe like a
better video that's actually really entertaining to watch.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
But I mean, I just don't have the energy too.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
It is a lot, all right, last, what are your
Eastern traditions? So wait, let me get back to the conversation.
So we get this ham and my husband also bought
lamb because he knows pop Up doesn't eat ham, even
though I told him pop Up eats literally anything. That's
why we call him a human garbage disposal. And so
we cut this. He cuts this lamb open in the

(55:16):
kitchen and I'm in the back bedroom getting ready. He's like,
can you come smell this? I don't know if it
smells good or not. And the second I walked in
my hallway, I was like, what is that? It smelled
so horrible? I called you because when you google it,
it says lamb has a strong odor. But I really
don't think it should be that bad. You guys are
kind of domb Like you said you said that it

(55:38):
had an expiration date on it.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Right, but which was which wasay? Which was today?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
But like he was telling me that he bought it,
when did he buy it?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Three days before Easter? All right?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
So you can't really you're not really supposed to leave
meat in the refrigerator for that long.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Like, yeah, you are, it has a sell by date.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
No, you don't leave it in as long as the
sell by like when you take it back from the
grocery store, if you're not going to use it in
a day or two, you should put it in the freezer.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That is not correct.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Listen, you're full shit, And I'm right because I know
all about decomposition, and I'm telling you that, like it's
decomposing in there, and it's like that, it's like the
Pope wrapped up in plastic with resins and stuff. You're
just accelerating the decomposition. Like raw meat is supposed to
be used within a day or two of the grocery store,

(56:29):
and then you're supposed to put it in the freezer
if you're not going to use it. Okay, Well I'm
calling bullshit because I go grocery shopping on Saturday mornings
and I cook that meat throughout the whole week, and
I've never had a problem like this is one of
very few problems I've had where it's gone bad. Well,
I'm just telling you, like, if you look up what
you're supposed to do, that's what you're supposed to do.
And on top of that, you just like just knowing

(56:51):
how decomposition works, it's just like it like it sounds gross,
but it's literally a human decomposing. Like it's going to
look worse in day one than it is or on
day three than it would look on day one, you
know what I mean, Like, especially if you're going to
cook me like oh that, I just wouldn't leave it

(57:12):
in the fridge like that for that long.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
But that's that's always what I've been taught.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
So I don't know, you've been cooking for five minutes
to act like your Bobby Flay like, relax, I am
Bobby Flay. I probably cook better than him. But it
doesn't have anything to do with cooking. It just has
to do with common sense and decomposition. Anyway, we didn't
cook the lamb and they got returned because it smelled
so horrible. My house smelt so horrible for like an
hour and a half. The smell would not go away

(57:39):
no matter what.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It was disgusting.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
But what did you end up doing for the girls?
So we do well, I'm in this conundrum because my
ten year old still believes still believes in Santa and
the Easter Bunny, and I'm like, okay, I have like
this magical age of like okay, you're gonna start getting
beat up in school, Like I think you need to
tell her, uh, I know, but like it's hard, it's

(58:03):
hard to break it. So I just been like every year,
like this year especially, it's been like very obvious in
her face. So Lillian came and put the little Easter
bunny footprints on the ground for her. But normally we say,
like you know, we hard boil the eggs and die
them at night, and then in the morning, Gabe hides them,
which was like, ale, oh my god, please tell that.

(58:26):
I seriously was going to show in this weekend. So
all right, So I make hard boiled eggs for the
kit for the girls for the for the Easter egg
hunt in the morning, and then I had another So
this box was in the fridge and it was labeled
Easter eggs and it was filled with dyed eggs. The
other box was not labeled with anything, and I had

(58:47):
a bunch of white eggs in it, and then it
had four dyed eggs that were raw dyed eggs because
I was going to cook them in my Easter bread
the next morning. So I wake up on Easter morning
and he was walking around, you know, working out in
the morning, and he wasn't home. And I look and
I see one of the Easter eggs that he hid

(59:08):
for the Easter bunny. You know, he does that before
the girls wake up. And I look inside of the
fridge and all of the eggs are gone except like
two white ones. And I'm like, he hid the raw
eggs too. He took the ones for my Easter bread,
and now I didn't have enough left to redie them
for the Easter bread. So I just text him and

(59:28):
I'm like, dude, you like this is this is classic Gabe.
Every single time I go food shopping. Hole Like what
was I I was going to make biscotti last weekend?
And he ate the cranberries, like a whole box of cranberries.
Why would I buy a box of cranberries? You ate
it for my recipe? He eats something for my recipe
all the time. Like what about the mini cabbage? Because
I'll never get over that that. Oh when I asked

(59:51):
for cabbage to make, was it to make go on
keys or something? Or yeah, you're making go on keys,
which is the stuffed cabbage, which he knows he's eating
a thous and times. He knows you need the big leaves.
So you were like, can he could get me more cabbage?
I ran out of leaves? And he comes back, literally
with the world's tiniest cabbage and it says mini cabbage.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
It was ten of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Them, like ten of them, and then it was it
was it was pretty much an.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Enlarged Brussels sprout exactly that it was not. It was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
So okay, So we have this long standing history of
him just like interfering with my my meals and my
desserts and stuff. So I text him and I'm like, dude,
you hid the things. And now, like I'm trying to
get this Easter bread ready that makes it takes a
couple hours, and I'm like, I'm not doing an Easter
egg hunt right now to try to find all these
eggs that he hid around the house because he's hiding

(01:00:43):
them really good because the girls are older and they could,
you know. So I'm like, I'm not looking for these
right now. So he goes, okay, whatever, I'll just stop
at the store on the way back and bring eggs.
And I said Okay, he walks in the door and
he has freaking brown eggs and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Like, dude, how supposed to die these eggs?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
It was funny anyway, so what Yeah, so so we
hide the Easter eggs. But I said, like, Lulu came
downstairs and I was like, yeah, like, daddy hit the eggs.
I told them the egg story, like normally it's like, no,
the easter bunny hit the eggs. And I was like, no,
Daddy hit the eggs. You know. So it's just like

(01:01:22):
and she said, I think she's trying to get me
to tell her because she was like, Mommy, what do
you think these footprints are?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I think you should have Lilian tell her me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
She no, I feel like she knows Listen, of all
of my kids, she's the one even with you, like
she's the one that's like on it and knows what's
going on. Well. I was telling Ricky yesterday she gave
me like a pep talk about getting my blood teeth,
and I'm like, how ridiculous that thirty years old at
my ten year old sister has to be like I

(01:01:55):
don't like it either, but it gets easier time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah yes, so yeah, so we do that and we
just get together whatever we're gonna do. But yeah, that
was a long rant over I mean anything unpopular opinion.
I really don't care for Easter. I think the food
food's good, and I like getting together with family. But
I'm just like whatever I like it. Maybe I'll feel

(01:02:21):
different in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I just don't know, but all right.

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