On today’s MKD, we are joined by the one and only Beth Qualtieri aka Mommom to discuss all the latest pathology in the news. We talk about Jessica Simpson peeing herself on the Today show, two cruise incidents, a serial butt sniffer, remains found by a potential home buyer, a body missing from a plane, and a funeral home that sent a man's brain to his family.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a
very special episode for you today with a guest we
talk about frequently but you may not formally have met yet,
my mom, Beth Qualtieri, also known as momm on this program.
This episode is going to be a little light because
you guys know that my mom cries over everything, so
(00:42):
we can't talk about anything too upsetting. So we're going
to get into starting We're going to start talking about
Jessica Simpson peeing her pants. I'm sure my mom can
relate to that, and then we'll talk about the dreaded
cruise she made us go on in some incidents that
happen on cruise ships this week. Then we'll get into
(01:03):
one of her favorite topics, which is butt sniffing.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, this is why I have a bad reputation.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Exactly. And then we'll discuss a rather morbid, unexpected finding
someone came across by looking for a new home, and
what happens when bodies and body parts get misplaced after
someone dies. All that and more on today's episode. Let's
get started with Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So, Jessica Simpson performed on The Today Show last week,
and I guess during the performance at some point she.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Peed her pants. And this article is.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Acting like this is just totally normal behavior for performers.
I guess it makes sense for people who are on
tour and can't just like get up in the middle
of the song and leave. But I just guess what
I really thought about it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I totally could see that happening because they have to
keep hydrated with all their activity on stage, and then
sometimes it's just got to come out.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
This is what confuses me. I guess I saw some
of the video of her recording and I didn't see
any pee on her clothes. She was wearing a light
color dress, so are they wearing.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, the light color probably hid it, because I mean,
let's say if I was if I was a performer
and I knew that this could happen, I would have
some kind of pad or something on because I sure
do not want that to be visible to everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, Hugh Jackman said this actually happened to him, and
he was saying, the muscles you need to release in
order to sing are the ones you do not want
to release. If you have to go. So I guess
if you really have to pee and you're in the middle,
it's just like if it we're doing, so we.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Know you have a problem with the opposite end of
coming out when you don't want it to. Have you
ever had a problem pee your pants accidentally?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I would say I to go through a period
like in my forties where if I sneezed or coughed
or you know, like that kind of thing, I would
get a little squirt here and there. But that has
resolved itself, I'm happy to report.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm curious, did that get better after you had your hysterectomy.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Possibly it would fit the timeline. Yeah, I was like,
I think it was thirty eight thirty nine when I
have my hysterectomy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah. I'm just curious because Jessica Simpson has three kids,
so I don't know if she had natural childbirth, but
she did go through three pregnancies, which can stress out
the pelvic floor muscles and that could cause you to
have urinary incontinence. I definitely think that I have this
for sure, because did I ever tell you, like, sometimes
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we take the kids to go to the trampoline place,
and one time, I wouldn't get I like peed my
pains what. I couldn't even believe it. It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh yeah, definitely. I probably still would today with a
trampoline there, there's no way I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's so it's like a gross feeling, like this weird
gravity feeling that similar to what you get when a
you know, that ride like a water breaking. Yeah, it's
just like weird you know the ride at the shore
that's like the boat that goes up and down, that
gross like diaphragm feeling you get. It's like that kind
of like you just feel it like falling. So I
(04:32):
don't know. I also sometimes I also get like I'll
just be standing there and all of a sudden, I
feel like this drop. Like I'm like the similar feeling
when you're holding in your pee and you're like, oh
my god, I'm going to explode. But it just like
comes from zero to nothing or from not you know, nothing,
and then it goes all the way from like it
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has to come out this very second without any warning.
It's like really bizarre, right.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So, well, I drink a ton of water all say long,
and I hardly go to the bathroom, and then at night.
It's like not night in the evening, it's like every
ten to fifteen minutes, it's like an urgency like that
I have to run in and go. So let's build
up or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, my kind of coologist told me once a couple
of years ago, because I told her that I get
up all like it keeps me awake, I peace so
many times during the night, and you know, I don't
really even drink that much. And she said, you and
your father, we're I'm like a I'm like a cactus.
I always say this. I'm just like some plants need
like my pain in the ass, Petunia's outside need constant water,
(05:37):
But like a cactus, you might ignore for three months
and they're both living things, and I'm just in cactus.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Wait, well, I remember we used to call Deana Cammell
because she drank so much.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Wait, while we're on the subject of pop off, do
you have any funny stories really quick? Because on our
YouTube live on Friday, we started getting into some bluisms
and people really enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The Oh my gosh, well did you tell him about
like his love his love notes to me? Where he'll say, yeah,
you know, you look really young, but that's just to me.
I don't know if other people would think that or not,
or mine.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I did tell them about the the him referring to beautiful,
the most beautiful bride he's ever seen, and it's like
his daughters or.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was his niece. He said she was the most
beautiful bride and she got married twice, and she said twice.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Wait wait, Jimmy, listen to this. It's your mother, Lyndy.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, our cousin, Yeah, exactly, it's our cousin, Jimmy,
and it's his mom. Lenane is who she's talking about,
which is, well, we're going to see them next. We're
going to see them this weekend, right coming off? Yes, yeah,
so we could we could talk about this over the
dinner table.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh my god, yeah, we were.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We were also we were What else did he say?
That was just oh, the most the most beautiful green
eyes that comment, oh his.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Uncle, Yes, had the most beautiful green eyes he ever saw,
not yours. He also didn't know what color my eyes were,
remember on my fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh my god, that reminds me of an Elton John song.
Or actually, like he means, he means well, he.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Just I recently had lost some weight and he said, oh, you,
you know, you're really looking like you lost weight. And
I put my hand on my stomach because it feels
so much flatter, and he said, yeah, well, you're never
going to lose that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He's such a jert. I guess the funny part is
is that he he's like the sweetest guy ever, and yeah,
absolutely is not intending to hurt your feelings. He just
I feel like he han't see this thing. Yeah, I
feel like I kind of have the same thing, Like
what is happening in my brain doesn't come out of
(08:11):
my mouth properly, and it could come off as offensive,
but like I'm not really trying to be. I don't know,
can confirm you one hundred percent of the loop qualtery button.
All right, let's get on to this next story and
we get start off because these next two stories actually
have to do with incidents that happen on a cruise.
So I don't know if you've been listening to our show,
(08:33):
how bad we've been hating on you for making us
go on.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That cruise, the Dreading Cruise.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I like months explain to everybody why you made us
go on that booth.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well Wall, Neither Daddy or I are really like party people,
and we didn't really want to have a fiftieth anniversary,
but we wanted everybody to do something together. And then
an opportunity fell in my life.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, and let me mentioned this as well, So we
go on. The ship we went on was called Liberty
of the Seas or something.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So these next two stories involve a ship called Icon
of the Seas, which is a newer boat and it's
actually the biggest cruise ship that's currently on the market
right now, whatever you would say, right, And I'm looking
at this ship and I'm like, why didn't we go
on that ship? That ship looks way better? Well, it
was the dates we had, we got like we were
on like the discount ship or something. No, we were.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It was we had to go, and it was to
go out of Bayonne. Oh, I don't have you have
limited And then oh, you guys only wanted to go
for five dudes.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Got she's such a complainer, she is.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
And five days was a lot. Although I have I
do have to say, and I think I've said this
on this program before, that a very awesome part of
this trip was being able to drive to our destination
for only an hour, and then getting on the boat
fairly quick, and then getting off the boat fairly quick
and being home in an hour. That was like, it
(10:03):
was way easier than going to an airport and an airplane.
You didn't have to get there like hours early and
all this stupid crap.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So that was actually going home was the best part
of the trip.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, just there were a lot of parts that, like
the boat itself was so awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay, so both these incidents happened on the Icon of
the Seas. Is that the boat you went on with
Aunt Jane.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No I was on the Symphony of the Seas.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Okay, so this is on the Icon of the Seas.
So first, I saw this video last night, and I
feel like it was an extended cut, and I thought
it was a woman, but the reports you're saying it
was a man. But this guy went in the Infinity
pool on the Icon of the Seas to get his sunglasses.
Witnesses were saying he was doing a handstand in the
pool and when he came up, he got caught on
(10:49):
the edge and he was trying to balance his weight
to get back down, but then ended up falling on.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
The other side.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It looked like he fell overboard, but apparently he fell
in the pool gutter, and if that gutter wasn't there,
he would have fallen into the children's section below, which
would have been even worse.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh my gosh. You know, I thought that was a
woman too when I saw it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
The reporting says that it's a man, though, so I
don't know that's what I mean. I guess really all
I could see, Maria was saying, it looks like I
don't know. Maria was saying that I only saw like
the lower half of his body that was tipping over,
And it did look like this person was wearing a bikini,
(11:32):
but like a dude could wear like a banana hammock.
It could have been a situation like that, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
True. Well, it's a good thing there was a pool
gutter there, or god knows what would have happened.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, Yeah, I know, it's it is really weird.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I think the person was doing the handstand to get
their sunglasses out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh oh okay, yeahs they had to go fully under, okay,
because I was just like, like, I feel like the
whole point of the adultpool is to for people not
to be doing the annoying things that kids do in
a pool, like splashing and like look what I could
do and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So I understand like a trick to show off, like I,
you know, try to grab stuff with my feet.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
With your tests. That's what I'm like. Successing must not
be an experienced pool person.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But they did survive with no injuries, so that's very lucky.
But in this next case, this is super bizarre. So
so also I want to note these incidents happened within
a couple of days of each other, but they were
separate voyages, so this one happened before the guy fell
out of the pool. But this employee reportedly stabbed another
(12:39):
female crew member on the ship and then ended up
jumping off the side and he was not recovered.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So there are some reports that it would waiter. Yeah,
I swear, Like remember when we were at the dinner
and the staff did this whole entire like weird dance
presentation and we were supposed to all stand up and
like clap for the staff, and that was really I
(13:12):
just thought it was It just was bizarre and it
was way too long. I mean, I I personally think
that that was at they I appreciate that they all
live on the ship and they have a special relationship,
but I thank them by tipping them, like I don't.
I don't feel like I need to sit there and
stroke their ego or whatever. That was one thing.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
If they want to do it, just the way they
had them do it on the boat felt like it
was like against their will.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It was very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, picture you're you're at work at your job
and they're like, okay, now we have to everybody has
to go out and dance on the steps.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well I do. I actually did picture that. That's why
it was pissing me off because it felt like a
hospital I worked at that They used to just do
you know, have these meetings that we were like, they
were like, well we found that in this study that
pace satisfaction is up when the staff does this, and
you guys have to do this, and like, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You have to be happy, you have to cheer, you
have to you know, Yes, I know this was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Happy not happy. Yeah exactly, So so what it's happened,
Yeah exactly. That's and and their work to the bone there,
I'm sure. So it's just like, Okay, we don't want
to have to learn this choreographed song and dance for
these people, right, It's just weird.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So not sure who had benefited, if it was for
the benefit of the guests or for the staff. It
just was.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think it never ended. It never ended.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think when you get hired on the cruise, like
they expect you to be like a worker and mild
entertainer in all departments because it's part of the experience.
So I think they know this when they're hired going in.
But just the way it was, just it seemed like
horror movie esque, like they were just like all dancing
at it was like it was like.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Cringey, like you felt like, you know, like can this
be over?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Especially because they're dancing a goddam style and that song
was stuck in my head for like two weeks after.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So I don't know if you know this or not, Maria,
because like, obviously I don't know anything about pop culture
or whatever. But is there any kind of reality show
that shows what's happening with the crew's life, like because
it's a very just talking to our waiter, it's a
very different way of living and I'm surprised that there
hasn't been some kind of reality show because the reason
(15:36):
I'm bringing this up is because I've read on a
lot of Reddit forums that this that these two people
were actually a couple and he yes, not that that's
that hasn't been reported yet by any legitimate news source
as of right now. But it's just an interesting thing
because there has to be like people hooking up and
stuff all the time because they're always together.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Well, there's a show on Bravo called Below Deck, but
it it's really about people working on like yachts. Yeah,
which is price but it's it's similar. They're in close quarters,
they're all like, I mean, that's a little different because
it's such a small staff in comparison, but it's.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
But they're always hooking up.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
They are always hooking up. They're always doing weird stuff.
They get pissed by the guest requests and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The major point of contention is when guests has to
pull the slide out that goes into the water. I
haven't watched that much of it, but it's like they
have this slide that could go off the yacht into
the ocean or see wherever they're sailing, but apparently it
really pisses off the crew members because it's this whole thing,
(16:43):
and then the guests only use it for five minutes.
But I don't know, I don't I guess the major
cruise line would have to sign off on it, which
I feel like might hurt the business, which is why
nobody's done yet because the private yachts it's way different, right.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So yeah, I understand that. So this is so anyway,
when we see footage from this particular incident, this is
the second time that we see these bright yellow rescue
boats in the water next to a cruise ship within
a month, right, Yeah. The other one was with the
Disney cruise. So that guy got recovered and apparently there's
(17:21):
a video circulating online of them pulling his dead body
out of the water, which I'd like to see, to
be honest with you, if you can find that, Maria.
But the woman, so apparently they treated the woman on
the boat and she was stabbed in the chest several times,
so I don't know if he was hell if it
(17:41):
was superficial stabs, because they obviously they check you for weapons,
even the staff. But there's there's steak knives and stuff around,
so you could definitely kill somebody for sure. But sure,
I mean, I don't know where the hell he stabbed
there multiple times in the chest that he didn't cause
anything that would have required some crazy kind of emergency
(18:02):
surgery and blood transfusions and all that stuff. But they
are we did talk about this, that they're able to
do small procedures. It's similar kind of to an urgent
care center. So they were able to stabilize her and
bring her to the hospital. They didn't have to. It
doesn't appear that they even had to come with a
helicopter and remove her from the boat.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Maybe they were just superficial.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, the whole I saw. I saw something about cruise ships.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It was a Columbo show and they did it all
on It was filmed right on a crew a real
cruise ship with you know really Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well do you know crime con does a crime cruise?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yes, I'm kind of interested in it, I think because
I okay, now you're interested in it, Yes, because crime
done so much fun and awesome, and it's just like
I was being busy with the conference all day, you know,
and just hanging around with all the people on the
boat would be cool. It just would be like I
just didn't want to tell that he wouldn't he wouldn't
(19:08):
even notice, just be like, oh, I'll be back and
he'll be like okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
On the trip that complained about being seasick, and you're
gonna go on the crime Cruise and be seasick and
then may lecture.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah you could.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The first day, you were like, I.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Am so dizzy. I was so dizzy. I felt like
I was drunk. But I didn't complain about it. You
preactively took drama. I took. I took drugs and stuff.
Yeah I had.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I was fine until I went up on the upper
deck and and was like right seeing the ocean like actively.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I was like, yeah, it was. It was a really
weird experience. Like I just I didn't I didn't feel
sick at all. I just felt like I was drunk.
It was so weird. I was more.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Dizzy when we got home for two days because I
guess there's that mild motion the entire time. So when
I was in my house, in my house obviously isn't movie.
I was like I kept feeling like, well, I don't
know because I think that sometimes I have mild verdict.
Everybody tells me I'm crazy. All right, let's move on
(20:16):
to the butt sniffer.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh god, this is a subject you're well versed in.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So a man who's been deemed a serial butt sniffer
has been arrested again for sniffing a woman's but this
time at a Nordstrom rack. But he didn't get caught
later until he was.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You know, out of that whole story. That's what caught
me was the Nordstrom rac. I'm like, we could totally
be in the Nordstrom rac and this guy being there
and I could see this happening to me, it's a.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Really weird fetish. I guess this guy has because he's
done it multiple times and has gotten arrested for it.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't I don't think that's why he's a sex offender,
Like that's of course shock or he's a sex offender,
like who's doing this?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Ago, this woman, I don't know if she was recording
herself just at Barnes Noble or she started recording when
he was doing weird stuff. But this woman was recording
herself at Barnes and Noble and you could see him
like crouching down. It looks like he's looking for a
book on a lower shelf or looking under a table there,
and then he just keeps going up to her and
(21:23):
sniffing her. Like, for me, if I knew he was
doing something like that, I wouldn't be trying to record myself.
I'd get out of there because that's weird behavior. But
the video went viral and he got arrested for that.
He's also a peeping tom, so that's probably why he's
the sex offender. That's personally the scariest thing to me
is when people are just looking at.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah news and that that's like a precursor for worse things.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Usually you know, well sniffing a discussion we could have too,
Like this person keeps getting arrested for doing these weird things,
and he's repeatedly out of jail, and then they're saying,
for this particular instance, he has bail set for one
hundred thousand dollars, Like, why are we setting bail for
people like this?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't know. There's like lots of crazy stuff going
on in law, you know, in the legal system these days.
Too many people are out on the street that shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Be well, they did say in the article that it
was because of prison overcrowding, So I don't I don't
even know where to begin. Like, obviously, if there's one
hundred people and there's there's only room for fifty people,
they have to let lesser offenders out and compare to
I guess a murderer that he's not that bad. I
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don't know, Like I feel like if you're in the
store and someone was near me like that, Like I
won't even think that someone was trying to sniff my butt.
It's just like I wouldn't be like right, It is
very bizarre.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I also want to point out that the wife of
former Los Angeles Laker Robert Horri also he was this
guy over a decade ago of stalking their daughter. So
like he's been around for a while and people recognize him.
And when the TikTok went viral, a bunch of other
women said that they had definitely seen him doing weird
stuff out in public. Also, can we talk about his ears?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
He he literally looks like Shrek. I was gonna say Shrek.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I didn't really look at his picture, you didn't notice
he's toy story.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, exactly. He's a cross between Shrek or the alien
toy and toy stories like he looks like the prototype
they made a figure out of him.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Wait, I'm gonna have to pull this up to show
you to have your reaction, because this is like I
can't even.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Believe you didn't notice this. This is like the first
thing I noticed. I don't know if I'm more shocked
by the butt sniffing or this man's ears. I mean,
all I'm saying is I'm not pretty.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Mean snips with them.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
All right? Yeah, maybe that if you red special power.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Oh my god, I did not see that picture.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It went here?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Clearly you weren't looking good enough because his ears are
I don't know, maybe my mom's right, maybe he was
able to like smell out of them or something.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Also, he's really tall, Like that would scare the ship
out of me if I was in public and a
man was getting that close to me, just being that
much larger than me.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Trying to sniff your butt. He's not going to be
towering over.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
The clear solution is to just fart and make him
go away, or he might get off on it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
More I would think he'd get off on the fart
because how are you sniffing butts and that he's actually
aroused by the smell.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I don't far if.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I saw the video on an airplane yesterday, people were
checking in and putting their suitcase up at all and
the guy farted and the guy next to him like
threw a holy fit having because the guy forwarded and
then the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's triggering it pisses you off and you're like, you're
an asshole. Like, obviously people slip by accident sometimes, but
to do that in a confined space like that, it's
just rude. It's it's rude.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, we had that story about that old man who
farted by accident in a line and he got punched
in the face, but we were justifying as saying he
was old. But if a regular person does it, you should.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Punch them in the face. You should encourage violence for
a far. But it does trigger it does that pisses
you off.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The far is equal violence and it requires retaliation. This
episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room guys.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
This week in the Grosser Room, we had our first
YouTube live session and we are going to be doing
that every Friday at noon Eastern time for our grocer members,
and it was it was actually like way better than
I expected it was going to be. It was so cool.
A lot of the members joined in and the chat feature,
they were able to ask us questions and we got
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to really talk to a lot of members that currently
we were only seeing comments from. So we created this
for the members so they could really guide the way
that our conversation goes and just a little bit of
a different format than our typical episodes. So I thought
it was fun. Didn't you think it was fun?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Ray?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
We talked about some other news stories that happened after
we recorded for the week, so it was nice to
get that information out asap. We got into some luisms.
We revealed our special guests for today's episodes, so you
guys get to hear kind of a different viewpoint of
what's going on behind the scenes and what's to come
in the following episodes. All right, So in North Carolina,
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this person thought that this house was abandoned and they
wanted to buy it. So one day they're looking around
the property, it came across skeletal remains in the backyard.
I guess the question I have is if you think
a house is abandoned, could you just roam around freely?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Is that okay? Or I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
No, I'm sure it's not. It's private property.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah yeah, but like come on, I would do if
I was like, oh, that house looks really good. It
doesn't look like anyone's there, Like, let me go walk
around and see what's going on, Like I mean, people
do that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's well, there's people that just do explorations of abandoned
mansions and schools and hospitals. I've seen videos.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All that all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I don't know, but it ended up to be the
remains of this fifty year old man, which this makes
me really sad that he was dead for that long
and nobody reported him or anything. But they're thinking he
died from natural clauses. How did they know for sure
if he was mostly skeletonized, that he died from national clauses?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So first I want to say, they found this skeleton.
So when you find a dead body on a property
that had a name of a homeowner, it's easier to
identify them because even though they're skeletonized and you can't
do it by photo ID or even by something like
tattoos that might be present on the skin. You know
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that the person that was living there, so that would
be the first thing that you look for. So you
could easily try to get the guy's dental records and
figure out who that is. And I'm assuming that's what
they did because they were able to identify them in
only two days, and if they had to take DNA
it would have taken much longer. Okay, So in that case,
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they'll send the bones to the medical examiner's office and
they'll look at it to see if there's any kind
of reason to believe that there was like a suicide
by like a self inflicted gunshot wound. So you would
see evidence of trauma if someone beat them up, you
would see evidence of that on the bones, if there
were broken bones or anything like that. And so based
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upon that and then them contacting that guy's family doctor,
they might have found out that he had like a
pre existing heart condition. That's how they come up with
like it probably was, but they'll do more of an investigation.
But it just wasn't obvious looking at his bones that
anything traumatic happened to him. He didn't fall, he didn't
get beat up, he didn't kill himself with a gun
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stuff like that. You didn't see any stab wounds, so
that's that's how they would determine that. I think the
story is written a little weird because it's like potential
home buyer and you're thinking, like, okay, it was this
house for Salemi realiter dot com and this person just
like found a skeleton. But yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You know, it's like this person was just trespassing on
a property.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, like yeah, just like I'll take this house.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, that's what happened at Louis's property up in the mountains.
The guy died in the art and the mailman found
him eventually.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and that happens. Yeah, I mean,
it happens, and it is sad that, but there's plenty
of people that live alone. I mean, think about the
same thing with the house in the mountains, Like nobody
reported that guy missing or dead, and he was pretty dead, right,
like he was in the snow or something. Was he
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was dead, Yeah exactly. So I don't know. I just
I thought it was like a cool story because nobody's
really ever expecting to stumble upon something like that, and
it has to for you out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Definitely scouting in the closet would have been a lot
more fun, though.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, that would have been a better story.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
That's definitely happened a couple of times, though, I feel
like we've even had stories like that on here.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
We had I feel like we had a story fairly
recently that someone didn't someone find something in like a
wall or I don't really remember.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
We had a horrible story about a girl that was found,
like a little girl found mummified in a closet.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
H but I think the apartment was like abandoned. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So a plane was headed from Istanbul to San Francisco,
but during the flight a person died, causing the flight
to divert to Chicago, and now the person's body is missing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So I don't really know exactly what the procedure is,
but I know that there has to be some kind
of procedure. Apparently the person died in the air, but
wherever the plane lands would be the jurisdiction that would
take over the body. So in this case, they were
supposed to land in San Francisco, but they decided to
land a little bit closer in Chicago just to get
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rid of the dead body and it was supposed to
go into the custody of the Cook County Medical Examiner.
And when they called the Cook County Medical Examiner to say, hey,
what's the deal with this body we sent you, they
say they have no record of ever receiving it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Wow, that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I also want to point out this weirdness because they
said the person was having a severe medical emergency, so
they were initially preparing to land in Iceland, but it
escalated and then that person died, So then they ended
up deciding to go to Chicago, which they called quote
a major international hub capable of handling emergency landings with
adequate medical support and facilities. Why wouldn't they land in Boston,
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New York, Like there's so many more major airports, so
much closer.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, it has to do with wherever they thought it
would be quicker or more efficient to go to to
handle it. Like I understand, because you have to think
about that. You have a whole entire plane full of people,
and if you're going from Istanbul to San Francisco, the
last place you want to be is Iceland, right, So
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if a person's dying in their life could be saved,
that's one thing. But if they weren't able to they
knew that the guy was going to die, they were like,
all right, well, let's at least get these people to America.
I mean honestly, like the difference between a flight to
Chicago to San Francisco might be another two hours additional
flight time or if not three, So I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, wonder why they wouldn't just go in.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, well, because a dead body that's not in refrigeration
is decomposing, and like you can't you can't leave it
there like that, and it could have died three hours
before that, and like, you just can't have a body
not refrigerated like that because then you have other complications
with like you know, the person's decomposed, they can't have
a funeral, they can't do this whatever. It's even if
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they're start decomposing and then they embalm them, they're still
going to be having a certain appearance that would not
be for a funeral, Yeah, like an open casket at least. Plus,
you don't want the people on the plane to be
further traumatized by the appearance of somebody that's decomposing. Because
on an airplane, like you could have the air conditioner on,
but it's room temperature. It's not a refrigerator, you know
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what I mean, Like it's not it's not stopping that
decomposition for sure. I this my personal opinion is that
the body's not missing. There's just some kind of a
paperwork error somewhere, because like where would the body be.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I don't know, because my understanding is if a person
dies on board, they are like moved to a separate
area away from the guests. Sometimes they're saying if the
flight is full, they just have to stay in their seat,
and I guess they put a sheet over the person
and then when the flight lands, that's when the me
is supposed to then come pick them up.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So like what happened, Yeah, I just believe that the
em probably did pick them up, and there's a paperwork error.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, because there's not just a case that has a
simpler description.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But I'm sure there's just a body in the fridge
that was like mislabeled or something.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I get that it's in the luggage lost in
fans exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You know, That's That's what I'm saying, Like, if there
was a body in a body bag on a stretcher
somewhere like that would have already shown its face like
it's it's somewhere. It's just this actually reminds me of
a story I had at a hospital that I used
to work at that we had a patient that died
at the hospital and the mom wanted to have an
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autopsy to see why her son died. And a couple
months later, we get a call from the mother that's like,
how I wanted the autopsy report on my son, And
we look through our PaperWorks and we're like, we don't
have any record of doing an autopsy on him. And
what happened was like in pathology, we were never alerted
that they wanted an autopsy, so we released the body
(35:50):
to the funeral home not knowing that they requested an autopsy.
So it's it's just like a like something got screwed
up in the normal person. So I mean, it's not
like we lost the guy or we didn't have the
guy in our in our morgue at some time. We did.
It just was like it got crossed. That happens sometimes
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there's just paperwork issues, and I'm just assuming that there
is a procedure for this because people die on airplanes.
It's not common, but it happens. We hear about it
from time to time, and you know, it's usually due
to like a cardiac event or something that causes somebody
to drop dead, a pulmonary embolism or something like that.
(36:33):
It's not like someone sick with cancer that just ends
up dying, right, It's like something is like they were
healthy and they dropped dead. So I'm sure that's the.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Case, yeah, because like otherwise it would have to be
something really nefarious, like a person took them and is
like harvesting their organs or something horrible.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
But that's way less likely. I don't even have to
stand here like if if you are taking and I
never worked on an airplane. I've released bodies at the
hospital all the time. But just thinking like the person
that took the body off of the airplane was probably
like like an EMS type of person that would carry
him away on a stretcher, because you're not just gonna
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like throw the guy over your shoulder and bring him
out right like this is happening like you would take
someone out of a house. They're yeah, exactly, like they're
handing the body over to someone and I know that
it sounds crazy, but like someone like the Cook County
Medical Examiner's office is a huge office. They probably have
a whole just like Philadelphia, they have a whole, entire
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separate room of bodies that are like unknown or mislior
or not not mislabeled, but just unclaimed. And it probably
is like a screw up with like that person just
getting put in there and not accounted for, like I
would put money on it, but like, but like anything's possible.
I guess, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I remember, well, as a family member, it's completely unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh no, it absolutely is. And it's it's scary too,
because then you start to worry, like what what's going on? Yeah,
I mean, yeah, exactly. And I guess, see the guy
was already if the guy was already pronounced dead, because
I was saying like, if the guy was in cardiac
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arrest or something, they possibly would bring him to a
hospital and then he would be pronounced dead and then
the medical examiner should pick him up. I guess there's
that possibility that he was brought to a hospital and
he's at a hospital somewhere in the fridge too. But again, like, well.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I'm wondering that too, because I don't think the airplane
officials have the authority to officially pronounce somebody did so,
like were.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
But if they called, if they called, uh, like EMS
in in Chicago, they can when they show up to
the airport, I mean, if they if they determined, like
I don't really under I don't really know. But all
I know is at the hospital, if we had a
body that was there longer than even as short as
five days, that no family was like, we're sending the
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funeral home to come pick them up, we would call
the Medical Examiner's office and be like, we have an
unclean body. Take it.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, but is it I'm just saying, like, is there
a possibility they thought he was dead? They brought him
to a hospital and he's like laying on life support
in some hospital's mostly dead. He's mostly dead like Princess
Bride style. But because I saw, for example, I saw
Lauren shared some something less that I don't know the
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details of the story.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh the woman, the woman in New York that's been
in the hospital for one hundred days and nobody knows
who she is.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It didn't we cover that? Actually, No, that was some
insurance fraud thing. Anyway, there's a woman in a hospital
for I think two hundred days. Nobody knows who she is,
so like, is it possible that he was just barely
hanging on Princess Bride style mostly dead, laying in a
hospital somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
It is, It is possible, but but again that would
still be like a miss a miss labeling situation. Like
the guys the guy is somewhere, right, I don't. I
don't think that, like like somebody get rid of a body.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, and it's a situation. So if they like are like, Okay,
who did you? Who called who to come get it?
I feel like it's gonna be easy to trace.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, steps exactly. I just I'm telling you that's all
it is. I I honestly feel like the Coke County
Medical Examiner maybe shouldn't even have said anything until they
but maybe they did further investigate it. I would just
be like, let me just check everything to make sure
that this body's not here.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, did you ever have any weird airplane stories?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, we we just went to Florida, uh like ten
days ago, and we had a little incident.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So here about this, Oh you didn't so d it's
making an elephant noise.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Making a what the elephant?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Wait, did you Dedi's latest She was at the Union
soccer game and the mascot snuck behind her, pulled her
head back and gave her a big kiss, like right
on her face. They were dying. It was like, Kisterpy, this.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Is my niece that they're talking about right now, but
front row of the show.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
And they were like, you need to do an elephant noise,
and he did.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It on film. Dedi does it. She does wear it.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
She said, we'll use it for nefarious purposes.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
All what happened on the plane?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh so on the plane, so Dede had an aisle seat,
I had the middle seat. The window seat was open.
So they bring this little old lady that is going
to go in that seat. So we get up and
we're like and she's trying to she could barely even
straighten herself up. She was like, so dd says, just
(42:07):
we'll move in and you could sit on the end.
It'll be easier for you. Her daughter was helping her.
So here goes her daughter like to somewhere else on
the plane and leaves this lady with us. And she
was like, you know, she was like, yeah, al miss
doubled over and then she was sleep and she was
(42:27):
falling on dd and we were like rolling our you know,
rolling her eyes like where's her daughter? And Dde's like,
I would never leave you like this, mom. I'm like,
thank you, but.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I would have got up and tapped on her and
been like you could switch sheets with me, because I'm
not watching your mom.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
This entire flight, we didn't even know where she went
because she like, wow, you know, it wasn't like she
was right behind us or anything like that. She was gone.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
She was just like, so this is your pro Indy,
And I are like.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Oh my god, what if she passes away while she's here,
because she was bent over.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Like you know, and that would happen for you.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Own, I know, right, And I would have been stuck
in there next to the window, all right.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
So back in twenty twenty three, we had reported on
a man who died and after his cremation, his family
got personal items back, which included a cardboard box which
started smelling and it ended up containing his brain. So
this new article comes about this week and a couple
people had to emailed it to us, and I was
blowing it off At first, I was like, oh, we
already covered this story. Oh no, it's happened again.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
This is actually yes, it's a different person. It happened.
It happened after. It happened after the one that we
talked about a couple of years ago, and it's a
little bit of a different circumstance. But basically, the guy
died in Georgia and the family had his remains sent
to Philadelphia, which is which is to totally normal. This
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happens all the time. So before they would send the
remains to Philadelphia, they would embalm the body and then
they because the guy died in Georgia, we always had
this too, like we would have a bag along with
all of our patients that had like the clothes they
came in the hospital, with their wedding ring, just whatever
they had across around their neck, like any of their
personal belongings. We always put that either not really in
(44:24):
the body bag because we didn't want it to get contaminated,
but we would tie it onto the body bag and
it went to the funeral home. So what happened in
this case is they didn't say anything about the guy
having an autopsy, but he had to have an autopsy,
because at some point they took the guy's brain out
and they sent So when you do an autopsy, you
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send all of the organs back with the body. We
usually just kind of throw them all in the abdominal
cavity and loosely sew a person up and they go
to the funeral home. And then the funeral home takes
that bag out and puts chemicals on it so it
doesn't decompose, and then they put it back in the
body and bomb the body, sow them up, put the makeup,
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whatever they do. But usually they'll probably just send the
a bombed body to Philadelphia. So sometimes when we do
an autopsy, the brain is treated a little bit separately
because we do the autopsy and look at the organs
and stuff. But the brain is like very gelatinous. It's
it's literally like a jello mold. It's so soft, and
(45:27):
to cut it's not even as firm as a jello mold,
I would say, so to cut it sometimes makes it
kind of squishy. So sometimes we put it in formaldehyde
for like a week in order for it to really
get firmed up. So when we cut it, it's nice
slices and I'm thinking in this case, something like that
happened where they got the body back with the organs,
and then maybe the hospital or the medical examiner that
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did the autopsy sent the brain back like later in
a container. I don't know why the brain would have
been separated from the other organs, but whatever happened, and
this brain was in a container that somehow got mixed
up with the guy's clothes and jewelry and stuff and
was given to the family as this is his personal belongings.
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And the mom said she couldn't open the one box
at first, and they just left it in the trunk.
And obviously, so this this actually makes me think that
it wasn't put in formaldehyde because it was it started decomposing,
and when the dad picked up the box, it was
like leaking brain juice, like decomp brain juice on his hands.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh my god, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, So like if you had a brain that was
in formalde hyde for a week, it would be like
a rubber ball, like it's not it's not decomposing like that.
So it had to be. For whatever reason the brain was,
it was fresh and separate from the other organs. I
can't explain to you why that would happen.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
But what if they used the brain for a study
or something like that, would that explain it, like maybe
why it was separate.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
No, Because usually if you're gonna do it for a study,
it's the same thing I'm telling you, Like, you're gonna
look at it, You're you're gonna put it in for maldehyde.
Like for example, if you're looking for you're doing a
study for like MS or any kind of brain condition,
you're gonna really want to get good. You're gonna want
it to be preserved really well in formaldehyde, and you're
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gonna want to get really great sections under the microscope
so you could see the pathology really crisp under the microscope.
And the fresh brain tissue is just that if you
look at a brain fresh, it's usually like either you
know the person died from another reason or when you
look at it, it's something clear like the person hit
their head and they have this brain bleed that you
could see when you cut it open. You're not looking
(47:45):
for like Parkinson's or Louis body dementia or CTE or
anything that's like something that you really want to have
really good microscopic sections of. So like in a case
where we examine the brain on sight, Like I would
just throw all of the organs, including the brain, in
the same visceral bag in the body and send it back.
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I don't know why they were separate. It's kind of
weird to me, but I guess different places do different things.
You know, what else is possible? I guess. I guess
sometimes people put the brain back into the skull, and
I guess maybe when they were embombing the guy, they
took the brain out of the skull and maybe put
it in a separate box. I just don't. I don't
(48:27):
know like what they're doing in a funeral home because
I've never worked right on. But regardless, like whatever happened,
so the family, the family got the belongings from the
Philadelphia funeral home. Who's just like, hey, like where he
just gave you what they told us was his belongings,
Like this isn't our problem, which it's not, because why
would you why would you go through the guy's belongings
(48:48):
if it just said it was his personal belongings, you
wouldn't think that they were giving him them a fresh
brain in a box.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, it seems like all the faults going on the
Georgia funeral home that prepared this happened. So this happened
in twenty twenty three, the death. So they're filing a
lawsuit now, which is also why I thought it was
the other case we had covered, but that.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
One was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I just couldn't believe it happened twice. I mean when
we first reported on it, we couldn't even believe it happened.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Then. Yeah, and this is one hundred percent, Like I'm
not a lawsuit person, but this is lawsuit worthy. Traumatizing
like the dad. I mean, think about this, like, you
don't ever want to bury your own kid, even though
these people are older and their child's a little older.
But he's not that old. He was only in his fifties.
And they didn't say why he died. But that's terrible
(49:39):
to have to bury a child, and then to smell
that smell. It's human decomposition is one of the most
It's a disturbing smell, especially to know what it is,
and then to have your child's brain tissue with that
smell on your hands. It is traumatizing in your trunk,
in your car. So he said he had to sell
the car which I don't blame, no like, and just
(50:01):
think about just how like the PTSD that comes along
with that deserves a suit and on top of that,
an investigation to see why this happened, to make sure
that this doesn't happen to anyone else, because no one
should ever have to experience that.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, true, that's a sad story. Jeez.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
All right, guys, Well, because of our special guests, we
are not going to do questions this week, But do
you have any added thoughts?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Beth? Actually maybe we could tell them though that next
next time you put up the questions thing on the
mother Knows Death page if they do have any questions
for momm for next time she's on if she ever
gets invited back.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Because you guys won't hear this, but she gave us
a spiel after I said, please make sure your biggers off.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
And she said, what am I stupid?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
And then shocker seconds later, Yeah, I think you definitely
need to post some outtakes just for I think I've.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Been very well behaved today.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Actually, I want to give a shout out to my
kids for being so well behaved because they're staying at
your house yes week because they're going to a camp
up there, and and I can't believe that they are
being so quiet. I don't hear Lucia doing any of
her ballet moves above you.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Oh well, I know she's been all over with them.
She she wanted to jump off the steps into Lilian's
hands with the ballet.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Don't. I don't. I was like, no, I don't want
to know.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
This cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
You're like, just calm down, you just you just got
these things and oh my.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
God, they don't come instant ballerine issues.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
That's why they love going to your house, because you
let them do whatever anything goes.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
You know, it's probably like what time is it now,
like eleven o'clock in the morning. They've probably already had
two cans of coke and ice cream for breakfast, so.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
They probably did because that's all that's over here at
Low's house and next door at my house is real food.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, my brother, even though my brother is approaching how old.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Is he now, thirty thirty eight?
Speaker 2 (52:08):
He's thirty eight, so he's approaching forty years old. He
still eats like a child, like a teenage boy. So
his house is stacked and he has like a really
awesome house, but it's just stacked with like things that
you would expect a teenage boy to have, like a
whole fridge of Coca cola.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
And just so, he was telling me the other day
he's gonna murder us for talking about but I think he
doesn't listen to our show. He was telling me the
other day that he was on the doxy cyclean when
we thought he had lives. Oh, I was so sick.
I was just like home drinking, Like I drink like
two gallons of milk that week, and I was like
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a who drinks two gallons of milk as an adult?
And be you're not really supposed to have dairy on
that medication. Doesn't it make it worse on your stomach?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't know. That medication makes me terribly sick. I
had to taken after my surgery, and it was I
just hate that feeling that it gives me.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Oh really, that never bothered me. I took it before
for my skin.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I think you know what else we should mention on
here that my brother is single. He really killed me, He.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Really kill you. But single handsome owns a house, It
owns a business.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, he owns two houses.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
And he owns a good house and he's a contractor.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, and he said it.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Is like he's also just like extremely creative and and
just smart with doing things. He likes to figure things
out ever since he was a little kid, and now
that he's older, he just you know, anything I want
in my house, I'll just be like, can you install
this for me? And he just is really creative with
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all different kinds of ideas. And he's I remember him,
he's very shy.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Twelve years old, he was installing a ceiling fan and
you know, like the wires and all that. Yeah, And
I was like, how like how do you know this?
How do you know what to do? And it's just
it's so natural to him.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
He just importantly as a mother, why weren't you like
maybe you shouldn't be playing with live wires.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
He knew what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Because she was remodeling her house.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
She just wanted the cheap free labor child leader. O.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
God, he was supervising, not that I don't know that
that was much better.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
I know, right, like Louis probably would have been better.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Supervisor was like, Dad, no, you can't do it that way.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, he's gonna kill me.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Because I want to ask him, when you give me
that Murphy bed from your basement, I want to ask
him to build like a custom bookshelf around it in
my guest room. So he's gonna really hate me when
I ask him for that. I haven't asked him for
anything in a while.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Well, I slept last night with the al picture you
gave him looking over us.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Oh that's a good picture. Yeah, it is painting.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, reminded me of the one that popad he was
staring at you. All right, guys, Well, thank you so
much to mo mom. She will probably make an appearance
again unless we post all the outtakes of us yelling
at her.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
We can't granny about tell them the elder abuse.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
But you started this culture, all right, guys. We will
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Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a
very special episode for you today with a guest we
talk about frequently but you may not formally have met yet,
my mom, Beth Qualtieri, also known as momm on this program.
This episode is going to be a little light because
you guys know that my mom cries over everything, so
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we can't talk about anything too upsetting. So we're going
to get into starting We're going to start talking about
Jessica Simpson peeing her pants. I'm sure my mom can
relate to that, and then we'll talk about the dreaded
cruise she made us go on in some incidents that
happen on cruise ships this week. Then we'll get into
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one of her favorite topics, which is butt sniffing.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, this is why I have a bad reputation.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Exactly. And then we'll discuss a rather morbid, unexpected finding
someone came across by looking for a new home, and
what happens when bodies and body parts get misplaced after
someone dies. All that and more on today's episode. Let's
get started with Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So, Jessica Simpson performed on The Today Show last week,
and I guess during the performance at some point she.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Peed her pants. And this article is.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Acting like this is just totally normal behavior for performers.
I guess it makes sense for people who are on
tour and can't just like get up in the middle
of the song and leave. But I just guess what
I really thought about it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I totally could see that happening because they have to
keep hydrated with all their activity on stage, and then
sometimes it's just got to come out.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
This is what confuses me. I guess I saw some
of the video of her recording and I didn't see
any pee on her clothes. She was wearing a light
color dress, so are they wearing.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, the light color probably hid it, because I mean,
let's say if I was if I was a performer
and I knew that this could happen, I would have
some kind of pad or something on because I sure
do not want that to be visible to everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, Hugh Jackman said this actually happened to him, and
he was saying, the muscles you need to release in
order to sing are the ones you do not want
to release. If you have to go. So I guess
if you really have to pee and you're in the middle,
it's just like if it we're doing, so we.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Know you have a problem with the opposite end of
coming out when you don't want it to. Have you
ever had a problem pee your pants accidentally?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I would say I to go through a period
like in my forties where if I sneezed or coughed
or you know, like that kind of thing, I would
get a little squirt here and there. But that has
resolved itself, I'm happy to report.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm curious, did that get better after you had your hysterectomy.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Possibly it would fit the timeline. Yeah, I was like,
I think it was thirty eight thirty nine when I
have my hysterectomy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah. I'm just curious because Jessica Simpson has three kids,
so I don't know if she had natural childbirth, but
she did go through three pregnancies, which can stress out
the pelvic floor muscles and that could cause you to
have urinary incontinence. I definitely think that I have this
for sure, because did I ever tell you, like, sometimes
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we take the kids to go to the trampoline place,
and one time, I wouldn't get I like peed my
pains what. I couldn't even believe it. It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh yeah, definitely. I probably still would today with a
trampoline there, there's no way I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's so it's like a gross feeling, like this weird
gravity feeling that similar to what you get when a
you know, that ride like a water breaking. Yeah, it's
just like weird you know the ride at the shore
that's like the boat that goes up and down, that
gross like diaphragm feeling you get. It's like that kind
of like you just feel it like falling. So I
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don't know. I also sometimes I also get like I'll
just be standing there and all of a sudden, I
feel like this drop. Like I'm like the similar feeling
when you're holding in your pee and you're like, oh
my god, I'm going to explode. But it just like
comes from zero to nothing or from not you know, nothing,
and then it goes all the way from like it
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has to come out this very second without any warning.
It's like really bizarre, right.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So, well, I drink a ton of water all say long,
and I hardly go to the bathroom, and then at night.
It's like not night in the evening, it's like every
ten to fifteen minutes, it's like an urgency like that
I have to run in and go. So let's build
up or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, my kind of coologist told me once a couple
of years ago, because I told her that I get
up all like it keeps me awake, I peace so
many times during the night, and you know, I don't
really even drink that much. And she said, you and
your father, we're I'm like a I'm like a cactus.
I always say this. I'm just like some plants need
like my pain in the ass, Petunia's outside need constant water,
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But like a cactus, you might ignore for three months
and they're both living things, and I'm just in cactus.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Wait, well, I remember we used to call Deana Cammell
because she drank so much.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Wait, while we're on the subject of pop off, do
you have any funny stories really quick? Because on our
YouTube live on Friday, we started getting into some bluisms
and people really enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The Oh my gosh, well did you tell him about
like his love his love notes to me? Where he'll say, yeah,
you know, you look really young, but that's just to me.
I don't know if other people would think that or not,
or mine.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I did tell them about the the him referring to beautiful,
the most beautiful bride he's ever seen, and it's like
his daughters or.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was his niece. He said she was the most
beautiful bride and she got married twice, and she said twice.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Wait wait, Jimmy, listen to this. It's your mother, Lyndy.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, our cousin, Yeah, exactly, it's our cousin, Jimmy,
and it's his mom. Lenane is who she's talking about,
which is, well, we're going to see them next. We're
going to see them this weekend, right coming off? Yes, yeah,
so we could we could talk about this over the
dinner table.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh my god, yeah, we were.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We were also we were What else did he say?
That was just oh, the most the most beautiful green
eyes that comment, oh his.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Uncle, Yes, had the most beautiful green eyes he ever saw,
not yours. He also didn't know what color my eyes were,
remember on my fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh my god, that reminds me of an Elton John song.
Or actually, like he means, he means well, he.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Just I recently had lost some weight and he said, oh, you,
you know, you're really looking like you lost weight. And
I put my hand on my stomach because it feels
so much flatter, and he said, yeah, well, you're never
going to lose that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He's such a jert. I guess the funny part is
is that he he's like the sweetest guy ever, and yeah,
absolutely is not intending to hurt your feelings. He just
I feel like he han't see this thing. Yeah, I
feel like I kind of have the same thing, Like
what is happening in my brain doesn't come out of
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my mouth properly, and it could come off as offensive,
but like I'm not really trying to be. I don't know,
can confirm you one hundred percent of the loop qualtery button.
All right, let's get on to this next story and
we get start off because these next two stories actually
have to do with incidents that happen on a cruise.
So I don't know if you've been listening to our show,
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how bad we've been hating on you for making us
go on.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That cruise, the Dreading Cruise.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I like months explain to everybody why you made us
go on that booth.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well Wall, Neither Daddy or I are really like party people,
and we didn't really want to have a fiftieth anniversary,
but we wanted everybody to do something together. And then
an opportunity fell in my life.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, and let me mentioned this as well, So we
go on. The ship we went on was called Liberty
of the Seas or something.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So these next two stories involve a ship called Icon
of the Seas, which is a newer boat and it's
actually the biggest cruise ship that's currently on the market
right now, whatever you would say, right, And I'm looking
at this ship and I'm like, why didn't we go
on that ship? That ship looks way better? Well, it
was the dates we had, we got like we were
on like the discount ship or something. No, we were.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It was we had to go, and it was to
go out of Bayonne. Oh, I don't have you have
limited And then oh, you guys only wanted to go
for five dudes.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Got she's such a complainer, she is.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
And five days was a lot. Although I have I
do have to say, and I think I've said this
on this program before, that a very awesome part of
this trip was being able to drive to our destination
for only an hour, and then getting on the boat
fairly quick, and then getting off the boat fairly quick
and being home in an hour. That was like, it
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was way easier than going to an airport and an airplane.
You didn't have to get there like hours early and
all this stupid crap.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So that was actually going home was the best part
of the trip.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, just there were a lot of parts that, like
the boat itself was so awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay, so both these incidents happened on the Icon of
the Seas. Is that the boat you went on with
Aunt Jane.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No I was on the Symphony of the Seas.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Okay, so this is on the Icon of the Seas.
So first, I saw this video last night, and I
feel like it was an extended cut, and I thought
it was a woman, but the reports you're saying it
was a man. But this guy went in the Infinity
pool on the Icon of the Seas to get his sunglasses.
Witnesses were saying he was doing a handstand in the
pool and when he came up, he got caught on
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the edge and he was trying to balance his weight
to get back down, but then ended up falling on.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
The other side.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It looked like he fell overboard, but apparently he fell
in the pool gutter, and if that gutter wasn't there,
he would have fallen into the children's section below, which
would have been even worse.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh my gosh. You know, I thought that was a
woman too when I saw it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
The reporting says that it's a man, though, so I
don't know that's what I mean. I guess really all
I could see, Maria was saying, it looks like I
don't know. Maria was saying that I only saw like
the lower half of his body that was tipping over,
And it did look like this person was wearing a bikini,
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but like a dude could wear like a banana hammock.
It could have been a situation like that, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
True. Well, it's a good thing there was a pool
gutter there, or god knows what would have happened.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, Yeah, I know, it's it is really weird.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I think the person was doing the handstand to get
their sunglasses out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh oh okay, yeahs they had to go fully under, okay,
because I was just like, like, I feel like the
whole point of the adultpool is to for people not
to be doing the annoying things that kids do in
a pool, like splashing and like look what I could
do and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So I understand like a trick to show off, like I,
you know, try to grab stuff with my feet.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
With your tests. That's what I'm like. Successing must not
be an experienced pool person.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But they did survive with no injuries, so that's very lucky.
But in this next case, this is super bizarre. So
so also I want to note these incidents happened within
a couple of days of each other, but they were
separate voyages, so this one happened before the guy fell
out of the pool. But this employee reportedly stabbed another
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female crew member on the ship and then ended up
jumping off the side and he was not recovered.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So there are some reports that it would waiter. Yeah,
I swear, Like remember when we were at the dinner
and the staff did this whole entire like weird dance
presentation and we were supposed to all stand up and
like clap for the staff, and that was really I
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just thought it was It just was bizarre and it
was way too long. I mean, I I personally think
that that was at they I appreciate that they all
live on the ship and they have a special relationship,
but I thank them by tipping them, like I don't.
I don't feel like I need to sit there and
stroke their ego or whatever. That was one thing.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
If they want to do it, just the way they
had them do it on the boat felt like it
was like against their will.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It was very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, picture you're you're at work at your job
and they're like, okay, now we have to everybody has
to go out and dance on the steps.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well I do. I actually did picture that. That's why
it was pissing me off because it felt like a
hospital I worked at that They used to just do
you know, have these meetings that we were like, they
were like, well we found that in this study that
pace satisfaction is up when the staff does this, and
you guys have to do this, and like, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You have to be happy, you have to cheer, you
have to you know, Yes, I know this was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Happy not happy. Yeah exactly, So so what it's happened,
Yeah exactly. That's and and their work to the bone there,
I'm sure. So it's just like, Okay, we don't want
to have to learn this choreographed song and dance for
these people, right, It's just weird.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So not sure who had benefited, if it was for
the benefit of the guests or for the staff. It
just was.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think it never ended. It never ended.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think when you get hired on the cruise, like
they expect you to be like a worker and mild
entertainer in all departments because it's part of the experience.
So I think they know this when they're hired going in.
But just the way it was, just it seemed like
horror movie esque, like they were just like all dancing
at it was like it was like.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Cringey, like you felt like, you know, like can this
be over?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Especially because they're dancing a goddam style and that song
was stuck in my head for like two weeks after.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So I don't know if you know this or not, Maria,
because like, obviously I don't know anything about pop culture
or whatever. But is there any kind of reality show
that shows what's happening with the crew's life, like because
it's a very just talking to our waiter, it's a
very different way of living and I'm surprised that there
hasn't been some kind of reality show because the reason
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I'm bringing this up is because I've read on a
lot of Reddit forums that this that these two people
were actually a couple and he yes, not that that's
that hasn't been reported yet by any legitimate news source
as of right now. But it's just an interesting thing
because there has to be like people hooking up and
stuff all the time because they're always together.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Well, there's a show on Bravo called Below Deck, but
it it's really about people working on like yachts. Yeah,
which is price but it's it's similar. They're in close quarters,
they're all like, I mean, that's a little different because
it's such a small staff in comparison, but it's.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
But they're always hooking up.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
They are always hooking up. They're always doing weird stuff.
They get pissed by the guest requests and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The major point of contention is when guests has to
pull the slide out that goes into the water. I
haven't watched that much of it, but it's like they
have this slide that could go off the yacht into
the ocean or see wherever they're sailing, but apparently it
really pisses off the crew members because it's this whole thing,
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and then the guests only use it for five minutes.
But I don't know, I don't I guess the major
cruise line would have to sign off on it, which
I feel like might hurt the business, which is why
nobody's done yet because the private yachts it's way different, right.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So yeah, I understand that. So this is so anyway,
when we see footage from this particular incident, this is
the second time that we see these bright yellow rescue
boats in the water next to a cruise ship within
a month, right, Yeah. The other one was with the
Disney cruise. So that guy got recovered and apparently there's
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a video circulating online of them pulling his dead body
out of the water, which I'd like to see, to
be honest with you, if you can find that, Maria.
But the woman, so apparently they treated the woman on
the boat and she was stabbed in the chest several times,
so I don't know if he was hell if it
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was superficial stabs, because they obviously they check you for weapons,
even the staff. But there's there's steak knives and stuff around,
so you could definitely kill somebody for sure. But sure,
I mean, I don't know where the hell he stabbed
there multiple times in the chest that he didn't cause
anything that would have required some crazy kind of emergency
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surgery and blood transfusions and all that stuff. But they
are we did talk about this, that they're able to
do small procedures. It's similar kind of to an urgent
care center. So they were able to stabilize her and
bring her to the hospital. They didn't have to. It
doesn't appear that they even had to come with a
helicopter and remove her from the boat.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Maybe they were just superficial.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, the whole I saw. I saw something about cruise ships.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It was a Columbo show and they did it all
on It was filmed right on a crew a real
cruise ship with you know really Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well do you know crime con does a crime cruise?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yes, I'm kind of interested in it, I think because
I okay, now you're interested in it, Yes, because crime
done so much fun and awesome, and it's just like
I was being busy with the conference all day, you know,
and just hanging around with all the people on the
boat would be cool. It just would be like I
just didn't want to tell that he wouldn't he wouldn't
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even notice, just be like, oh, I'll be back and
he'll be like okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
On the trip that complained about being seasick, and you're
gonna go on the crime Cruise and be seasick and
then may lecture.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah you could.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The first day, you were like, I.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Am so dizzy. I was so dizzy. I felt like
I was drunk. But I didn't complain about it. You
preactively took drama. I took. I took drugs and stuff.
Yeah I had.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I was fine until I went up on the upper
deck and and was like right seeing the ocean like actively.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I was like, yeah, it was. It was a really
weird experience. Like I just I didn't I didn't feel
sick at all. I just felt like I was drunk.
It was so weird. I was more.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Dizzy when we got home for two days because I
guess there's that mild motion the entire time. So when
I was in my house, in my house obviously isn't movie.
I was like I kept feeling like, well, I don't
know because I think that sometimes I have mild verdict.
Everybody tells me I'm crazy. All right, let's move on
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to the butt sniffer.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh god, this is a subject you're well versed in.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So a man who's been deemed a serial butt sniffer
has been arrested again for sniffing a woman's but this
time at a Nordstrom rack. But he didn't get caught
later until he was.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You know, out of that whole story. That's what caught
me was the Nordstrom rac. I'm like, we could totally
be in the Nordstrom rac and this guy being there
and I could see this happening to me, it's a.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Really weird fetish. I guess this guy has because he's
done it multiple times and has gotten arrested for it.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't I don't think that's why he's a sex offender,
Like that's of course shock or he's a sex offender,
like who's doing this?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Ago, this woman, I don't know if she was recording
herself just at Barnes Noble or she started recording when
he was doing weird stuff. But this woman was recording
herself at Barnes and Noble and you could see him
like crouching down. It looks like he's looking for a
book on a lower shelf or looking under a table there,
and then he just keeps going up to her and
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sniffing her. Like, for me, if I knew he was
doing something like that, I wouldn't be trying to record myself.
I'd get out of there because that's weird behavior. But
the video went viral and he got arrested for that.
He's also a peeping tom, so that's probably why he's
the sex offender. That's personally the scariest thing to me
is when people are just looking at.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah news and that that's like a precursor for worse things.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Usually you know, well sniffing a discussion we could have too,
Like this person keeps getting arrested for doing these weird things,
and he's repeatedly out of jail, and then they're saying,
for this particular instance, he has bail set for one
hundred thousand dollars, Like, why are we setting bail for
people like this?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't know. There's like lots of crazy stuff going
on in law, you know, in the legal system these days.
Too many people are out on the street that shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Be well, they did say in the article that it
was because of prison overcrowding, So I don't I don't
even know where to begin. Like, obviously, if there's one
hundred people and there's there's only room for fifty people,
they have to let lesser offenders out and compare to
I guess a murderer that he's not that bad. I
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don't know, Like I feel like if you're in the
store and someone was near me like that, Like I
won't even think that someone was trying to sniff my butt.
It's just like I wouldn't be like right, It is
very bizarre.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I also want to point out that the wife of
former Los Angeles Laker Robert Horri also he was this
guy over a decade ago of stalking their daughter. So
like he's been around for a while and people recognize him.
And when the TikTok went viral, a bunch of other
women said that they had definitely seen him doing weird
stuff out in public. Also, can we talk about his ears?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
He he literally looks like Shrek. I was gonna say Shrek.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I didn't really look at his picture, you didn't notice
he's toy story.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, exactly. He's a cross between Shrek or the alien
toy and toy stories like he looks like the prototype
they made a figure out of him.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Wait, I'm gonna have to pull this up to show
you to have your reaction, because this is like I
can't even.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Believe you didn't notice this. This is like the first
thing I noticed. I don't know if I'm more shocked
by the butt sniffing or this man's ears. I mean,
all I'm saying is I'm not pretty.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Mean snips with them.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
All right? Yeah, maybe that if you red special power.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Oh my god, I did not see that picture.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It went here?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Clearly you weren't looking good enough because his ears are
I don't know, maybe my mom's right, maybe he was
able to like smell out of them or something.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Also, he's really tall, Like that would scare the ship
out of me if I was in public and a
man was getting that close to me, just being that
much larger than me.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Trying to sniff your butt. He's not going to be
towering over.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
The clear solution is to just fart and make him
go away, or he might get off on it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
More I would think he'd get off on the fart
because how are you sniffing butts and that he's actually
aroused by the smell.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I don't far if.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I saw the video on an airplane yesterday, people were
checking in and putting their suitcase up at all and
the guy farted and the guy next to him like
threw a holy fit having because the guy forwarded and
then the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's triggering it pisses you off and you're like, you're
an asshole. Like, obviously people slip by accident sometimes, but
to do that in a confined space like that, it's
just rude. It's it's rude.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, we had that story about that old man who
farted by accident in a line and he got punched
in the face, but we were justifying as saying he
was old. But if a regular person does it, you should.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Punch them in the face. You should encourage violence for
a far. But it does trigger it does that pisses
you off.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The far is equal violence and it requires retaliation. This
episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room guys.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
This week in the Grosser Room, we had our first
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and it was it was actually like way better than
I expected it was going to be. It was so cool.
A lot of the members joined in and the chat feature,
they were able to ask us questions and we got
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Speaker 1 (26:38):
Ray?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
We talked about some other news stories that happened after
we recorded for the week, so it was nice to
get that information out asap. We got into some luisms.
We revealed our special guests for today's episodes, so you
guys get to hear kind of a different viewpoint of
what's going on behind the scenes and what's to come
in the following episodes. All right, So in North Carolina,
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this person thought that this house was abandoned and they
wanted to buy it. So one day they're looking around
the property, it came across skeletal remains in the backyard.
I guess the question I have is if you think
a house is abandoned, could you just roam around freely?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Is that okay? Or I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
No, I'm sure it's not. It's private property.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah yeah, but like come on, I would do if
I was like, oh, that house looks really good. It
doesn't look like anyone's there, Like, let me go walk
around and see what's going on, Like I mean, people
do that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's well, there's people that just do explorations of abandoned
mansions and schools and hospitals. I've seen videos.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All that all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I don't know, but it ended up to be the
remains of this fifty year old man, which this makes
me really sad that he was dead for that long
and nobody reported him or anything. But they're thinking he
died from natural clauses. How did they know for sure
if he was mostly skeletonized, that he died from national clauses?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So first I want to say, they found this skeleton.
So when you find a dead body on a property
that had a name of a homeowner, it's easier to
identify them because even though they're skeletonized and you can't
do it by photo ID or even by something like
tattoos that might be present on the skin. You know
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that the person that was living there, so that would
be the first thing that you look for. So you
could easily try to get the guy's dental records and
figure out who that is. And I'm assuming that's what
they did because they were able to identify them in
only two days, and if they had to take DNA
it would have taken much longer. Okay, So in that case,
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they'll send the bones to the medical examiner's office and
they'll look at it to see if there's any kind
of reason to believe that there was like a suicide
by like a self inflicted gunshot wound. So you would
see evidence of trauma if someone beat them up, you
would see evidence of that on the bones, if there
were broken bones or anything like that. And so based
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upon that and then them contacting that guy's family doctor,
they might have found out that he had like a
pre existing heart condition. That's how they come up with
like it probably was, but they'll do more of an investigation.
But it just wasn't obvious looking at his bones that
anything traumatic happened to him. He didn't fall, he didn't
get beat up, he didn't kill himself with a gun
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stuff like that. You didn't see any stab wounds, so
that's that's how they would determine that. I think the
story is written a little weird because it's like potential
home buyer and you're thinking, like, okay, it was this
house for Salemi realiter dot com and this person just
like found a skeleton. But yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You know, it's like this person was just trespassing on
a property.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, like yeah, just like I'll take this house.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, that's what happened at Louis's property up in the mountains.
The guy died in the art and the mailman found
him eventually.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and that happens. Yeah, I mean,
it happens, and it is sad that, but there's plenty
of people that live alone. I mean, think about the
same thing with the house in the mountains, Like nobody
reported that guy missing or dead, and he was pretty dead, right,
like he was in the snow or something. Was he
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was dead, Yeah exactly. So I don't know. I just
I thought it was like a cool story because nobody's
really ever expecting to stumble upon something like that, and
it has to for you out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Definitely scouting in the closet would have been a lot
more fun, though.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, that would have been a better story.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
That's definitely happened a couple of times, though, I feel
like we've even had stories like that on here.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
We had I feel like we had a story fairly
recently that someone didn't someone find something in like a
wall or I don't really remember.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
We had a horrible story about a girl that was found,
like a little girl found mummified in a closet.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
H but I think the apartment was like abandoned. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So a plane was headed from Istanbul to San Francisco,
but during the flight a person died, causing the flight
to divert to Chicago, and now the person's body is missing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So I don't really know exactly what the procedure is,
but I know that there has to be some kind
of procedure. Apparently the person died in the air, but
wherever the plane lands would be the jurisdiction that would
take over the body. So in this case, they were
supposed to land in San Francisco, but they decided to
land a little bit closer in Chicago just to get
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rid of the dead body and it was supposed to
go into the custody of the Cook County Medical Examiner.
And when they called the Cook County Medical Examiner to say, hey,
what's the deal with this body we sent you, they
say they have no record of ever receiving it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Wow, that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I also want to point out this weirdness because they
said the person was having a severe medical emergency, so
they were initially preparing to land in Iceland, but it
escalated and then that person died, So then they ended
up deciding to go to Chicago, which they called quote
a major international hub capable of handling emergency landings with
adequate medical support and facilities. Why wouldn't they land in Boston,
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New York, Like there's so many more major airports, so
much closer.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, it has to do with wherever they thought it
would be quicker or more efficient to go to to
handle it. Like I understand, because you have to think
about that. You have a whole entire plane full of people,
and if you're going from Istanbul to San Francisco, the
last place you want to be is Iceland, right, So
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if a person's dying in their life could be saved,
that's one thing. But if they weren't able to they
knew that the guy was going to die, they were like,
all right, well, let's at least get these people to America.
I mean honestly, like the difference between a flight to
Chicago to San Francisco might be another two hours additional
flight time or if not three, So I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, wonder why they wouldn't just go in.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, well, because a dead body that's not in refrigeration
is decomposing, and like you can't you can't leave it
there like that, and it could have died three hours
before that, and like, you just can't have a body
not refrigerated like that because then you have other complications
with like you know, the person's decomposed, they can't have
a funeral, they can't do this whatever. It's even if
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they're start decomposing and then they embalm them, they're still
going to be having a certain appearance that would not
be for a funeral, Yeah, like an open casket at least. Plus,
you don't want the people on the plane to be
further traumatized by the appearance of somebody that's decomposing. Because
on an airplane, like you could have the air conditioner on,
but it's room temperature. It's not a refrigerator, you know
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what I mean, Like it's not it's not stopping that
decomposition for sure. I this my personal opinion is that
the body's not missing. There's just some kind of a
paperwork error somewhere, because like where would the body be.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I don't know, because my understanding is if a person
dies on board, they are like moved to a separate
area away from the guests. Sometimes they're saying if the
flight is full, they just have to stay in their seat,
and I guess they put a sheet over the person
and then when the flight lands, that's when the me
is supposed to then come pick them up.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So like what happened, Yeah, I just believe that the
em probably did pick them up, and there's a paperwork error.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, because there's not just a case that has a
simpler description.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But I'm sure there's just a body in the fridge
that was like mislabeled or something.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I get that it's in the luggage lost in
fans exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You know, That's That's what I'm saying, Like, if there
was a body in a body bag on a stretcher
somewhere like that would have already shown its face like
it's it's somewhere. It's just this actually reminds me of
a story I had at a hospital that I used
to work at that we had a patient that died
at the hospital and the mom wanted to have an
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autopsy to see why her son died. And a couple
months later, we get a call from the mother that's like,
how I wanted the autopsy report on my son, And
we look through our PaperWorks and we're like, we don't
have any record of doing an autopsy on him. And
what happened was like in pathology, we were never alerted
that they wanted an autopsy, so we released the body
(35:50):
to the funeral home not knowing that they requested an autopsy.
So it's it's just like a like something got screwed
up in the normal person. So I mean, it's not
like we lost the guy or we didn't have the
guy in our in our morgue at some time. We did.
It just was like it got crossed. That happens sometimes
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there's just paperwork issues, and I'm just assuming that there
is a procedure for this because people die on airplanes.
It's not common, but it happens. We hear about it
from time to time, and you know, it's usually due
to like a cardiac event or something that causes somebody
to drop dead, a pulmonary embolism or something like that.
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It's not like someone sick with cancer that just ends
up dying, right, It's like something is like they were
healthy and they dropped dead. So I'm sure that's the.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Case, yeah, because like otherwise it would have to be
something really nefarious, like a person took them and is
like harvesting their organs or something horrible.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
But that's way less likely. I don't even have to
stand here like if if you are taking and I
never worked on an airplane. I've released bodies at the
hospital all the time. But just thinking like the person
that took the body off of the airplane was probably
like like an EMS type of person that would carry
him away on a stretcher, because you're not just gonna
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like throw the guy over your shoulder and bring him
out right like this is happening like you would take
someone out of a house. They're yeah, exactly, like they're
handing the body over to someone and I know that
it sounds crazy, but like someone like the Cook County
Medical Examiner's office is a huge office. They probably have
a whole just like Philadelphia, they have a whole, entire
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separate room of bodies that are like unknown or mislior
or not not mislabeled, but just unclaimed. And it probably
is like a screw up with like that person just
getting put in there and not accounted for, like I
would put money on it, but like, but like anything's possible.
I guess, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I remember, well, as a family member, it's completely unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh no, it absolutely is. And it's it's scary too,
because then you start to worry, like what what's going on? Yeah,
I mean, yeah, exactly. And I guess, see the guy
was already if the guy was already pronounced dead, because
I was saying like, if the guy was in cardiac
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arrest or something, they possibly would bring him to a
hospital and then he would be pronounced dead and then
the medical examiner should pick him up. I guess there's
that possibility that he was brought to a hospital and
he's at a hospital somewhere in the fridge too. But again, like, well.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I'm wondering that too, because I don't think the airplane
officials have the authority to officially pronounce somebody did so,
like were.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
But if they called, if they called, uh, like EMS
in in Chicago, they can when they show up to
the airport, I mean, if they if they determined, like
I don't really under I don't really know. But all
I know is at the hospital, if we had a
body that was there longer than even as short as
five days, that no family was like, we're sending the
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funeral home to come pick them up, we would call
the Medical Examiner's office and be like, we have an
unclean body. Take it.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, but is it I'm just saying, like, is there
a possibility they thought he was dead? They brought him
to a hospital and he's like laying on life support
in some hospital's mostly dead. He's mostly dead like Princess
Bride style. But because I saw, for example, I saw
Lauren shared some something less that I don't know the
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details of the story.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh the woman, the woman in New York that's been
in the hospital for one hundred days and nobody knows
who she is.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It didn't we cover that? Actually, No, that was some
insurance fraud thing. Anyway, there's a woman in a hospital
for I think two hundred days. Nobody knows who she is,
so like, is it possible that he was just barely
hanging on Princess Bride style mostly dead, laying in a
hospital somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
It is, It is possible, but but again that would
still be like a miss a miss labeling situation. Like
the guys the guy is somewhere, right, I don't. I
don't think that, like like somebody get rid of a body.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, and it's a situation. So if they like are like, Okay,
who did you? Who called who to come get it?
I feel like it's gonna be easy to trace.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, steps exactly. I just I'm telling you that's all
it is. I I honestly feel like the Coke County
Medical Examiner maybe shouldn't even have said anything until they
but maybe they did further investigate it. I would just
be like, let me just check everything to make sure
that this body's not here.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, did you ever have any weird airplane stories?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, we we just went to Florida, uh like ten
days ago, and we had a little incident.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So here about this, Oh you didn't so d it's
making an elephant noise.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Making a what the elephant?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Wait, did you Dedi's latest She was at the Union
soccer game and the mascot snuck behind her, pulled her
head back and gave her a big kiss, like right
on her face. They were dying. It was like, Kisterpy, this.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Is my niece that they're talking about right now, but
front row of the show.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
And they were like, you need to do an elephant noise,
and he did.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It on film. Dedi does it. She does wear it.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
She said, we'll use it for nefarious purposes.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
All what happened on the plane?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh so on the plane, so Dede had an aisle seat,
I had the middle seat. The window seat was open.
So they bring this little old lady that is going
to go in that seat. So we get up and
we're like and she's trying to she could barely even
straighten herself up. She was like, so dd says, just
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we'll move in and you could sit on the end.
It'll be easier for you. Her daughter was helping her.
So here goes her daughter like to somewhere else on
the plane and leaves this lady with us. And she
was like, you know, she was like, yeah, al miss
doubled over and then she was sleep and she was
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falling on dd and we were like rolling our you know,
rolling her eyes like where's her daughter? And Dde's like,
I would never leave you like this, mom. I'm like,
thank you, but.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I would have got up and tapped on her and
been like you could switch sheets with me, because I'm
not watching your mom.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
This entire flight, we didn't even know where she went
because she like, wow, you know, it wasn't like she
was right behind us or anything like that. She was gone.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
She was just like, so this is your pro Indy,
And I are like.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Oh my god, what if she passes away while she's here,
because she was bent over.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Like you know, and that would happen for you.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Own, I know, right, And I would have been stuck
in there next to the window, all right.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
So back in twenty twenty three, we had reported on
a man who died and after his cremation, his family
got personal items back, which included a cardboard box which
started smelling and it ended up containing his brain. So
this new article comes about this week and a couple
people had to emailed it to us, and I was
blowing it off At first, I was like, oh, we
already covered this story. Oh no, it's happened again.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
This is actually yes, it's a different person. It happened.
It happened after. It happened after the one that we
talked about a couple of years ago, and it's a
little bit of a different circumstance. But basically, the guy
died in Georgia and the family had his remains sent
to Philadelphia, which is which is to totally normal. This
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happens all the time. So before they would send the
remains to Philadelphia, they would embalm the body and then
they because the guy died in Georgia, we always had
this too, like we would have a bag along with
all of our patients that had like the clothes they
came in the hospital, with their wedding ring, just whatever
they had across around their neck, like any of their
personal belongings. We always put that either not really in
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the body bag because we didn't want it to get contaminated,
but we would tie it onto the body bag and
it went to the funeral home. So what happened in
this case is they didn't say anything about the guy
having an autopsy, but he had to have an autopsy,
because at some point they took the guy's brain out
and they sent So when you do an autopsy, you
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send all of the organs back with the body. We
usually just kind of throw them all in the abdominal
cavity and loosely sew a person up and they go
to the funeral home. And then the funeral home takes
that bag out and puts chemicals on it so it
doesn't decompose, and then they put it back in the
body and bomb the body, sow them up, put the makeup,
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whatever they do. But usually they'll probably just send the
a bombed body to Philadelphia. So sometimes when we do
an autopsy, the brain is treated a little bit separately
because we do the autopsy and look at the organs
and stuff. But the brain is like very gelatinous. It's
it's literally like a jello mold. It's so soft, and
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to cut it's not even as firm as a jello mold,
I would say, so to cut it sometimes makes it
kind of squishy. So sometimes we put it in formaldehyde
for like a week in order for it to really
get firmed up. So when we cut it, it's nice
slices and I'm thinking in this case, something like that
happened where they got the body back with the organs,
and then maybe the hospital or the medical examiner that
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did the autopsy sent the brain back like later in
a container. I don't know why the brain would have
been separated from the other organs, but whatever happened, and
this brain was in a container that somehow got mixed
up with the guy's clothes and jewelry and stuff and
was given to the family as this is his personal belongings.
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And the mom said she couldn't open the one box
at first, and they just left it in the trunk.
And obviously, so this this actually makes me think that
it wasn't put in formaldehyde because it was it started decomposing,
and when the dad picked up the box, it was
like leaking brain juice, like decomp brain juice on his hands.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh my god, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, So like if you had a brain that was
in formalde hyde for a week, it would be like
a rubber ball, like it's not it's not decomposing like that.
So it had to be. For whatever reason the brain was,
it was fresh and separate from the other organs. I
can't explain to you why that would happen.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
But what if they used the brain for a study
or something like that, would that explain it, like maybe
why it was separate.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
No, Because usually if you're gonna do it for a study,
it's the same thing I'm telling you, Like, you're gonna
look at it, You're you're gonna put it in for maldehyde.
Like for example, if you're looking for you're doing a
study for like MS or any kind of brain condition,
you're gonna really want to get good. You're gonna want
it to be preserved really well in formaldehyde, and you're
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gonna want to get really great sections under the microscope
so you could see the pathology really crisp under the microscope.
And the fresh brain tissue is just that if you
look at a brain fresh, it's usually like either you
know the person died from another reason or when you
look at it, it's something clear like the person hit
their head and they have this brain bleed that you
could see when you cut it open. You're not looking
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for like Parkinson's or Louis body dementia or CTE or
anything that's like something that you really want to have
really good microscopic sections of. So like in a case
where we examine the brain on sight, Like I would
just throw all of the organs, including the brain, in
the same visceral bag in the body and send it back.
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I don't know why they were separate. It's kind of
weird to me, but I guess different places do different things.
You know, what else is possible? I guess. I guess
sometimes people put the brain back into the skull, and
I guess maybe when they were embombing the guy, they
took the brain out of the skull and maybe put
it in a separate box. I just don't. I don't
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know like what they're doing in a funeral home because
I've never worked right on. But regardless, like whatever happened,
so the family, the family got the belongings from the
Philadelphia funeral home. Who's just like, hey, like where he
just gave you what they told us was his belongings,
Like this isn't our problem, which it's not, because why
would you why would you go through the guy's belongings
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if it just said it was his personal belongings, you
wouldn't think that they were giving him them a fresh
brain in a box.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, it seems like all the faults going on the
Georgia funeral home that prepared this happened. So this happened
in twenty twenty three, the death. So they're filing a
lawsuit now, which is also why I thought it was
the other case we had covered, but that.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
One was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I just couldn't believe it happened twice. I mean when
we first reported on it, we couldn't even believe it happened.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Then. Yeah, and this is one hundred percent, Like I'm
not a lawsuit person, but this is lawsuit worthy. Traumatizing
like the dad. I mean, think about this, like, you
don't ever want to bury your own kid, even though
these people are older and their child's a little older.
But he's not that old. He was only in his fifties.
And they didn't say why he died. But that's terrible
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to have to bury a child, and then to smell
that smell. It's human decomposition is one of the most
It's a disturbing smell, especially to know what it is,
and then to have your child's brain tissue with that
smell on your hands. It is traumatizing in your trunk,
in your car. So he said he had to sell
the car which I don't blame, no like, and just
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think about just how like the PTSD that comes along
with that deserves a suit and on top of that,
an investigation to see why this happened, to make sure
that this doesn't happen to anyone else, because no one
should ever have to experience that.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, true, that's a sad story. Jeez.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
All right, guys, Well, because of our special guests, we
are not going to do questions this week, But do
you have any added thoughts?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Beth? Actually maybe we could tell them though that next
next time you put up the questions thing on the
mother Knows Death page if they do have any questions
for momm for next time she's on if she ever
gets invited back.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Because you guys won't hear this, but she gave us
a spiel after I said, please make sure your biggers off.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
And she said, what am I stupid?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
And then shocker seconds later, Yeah, I think you definitely
need to post some outtakes just for I think I've.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Been very well behaved today.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Actually, I want to give a shout out to my
kids for being so well behaved because they're staying at
your house yes week because they're going to a camp
up there, and and I can't believe that they are
being so quiet. I don't hear Lucia doing any of
her ballet moves above you.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Oh well, I know she's been all over with them.
She she wanted to jump off the steps into Lilian's
hands with the ballet.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Don't. I don't. I was like, no, I don't want
to know.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
This cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
You're like, just calm down, you just you just got
these things and oh my.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
God, they don't come instant ballerine issues.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
That's why they love going to your house, because you
let them do whatever anything goes.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
You know, it's probably like what time is it now,
like eleven o'clock in the morning. They've probably already had
two cans of coke and ice cream for breakfast, so.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
They probably did because that's all that's over here at
Low's house and next door at my house is real food.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, my brother, even though my brother is approaching how old.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Is he now, thirty thirty eight?
Speaker 2 (52:08):
He's thirty eight, so he's approaching forty years old. He
still eats like a child, like a teenage boy. So
his house is stacked and he has like a really
awesome house, but it's just stacked with like things that
you would expect a teenage boy to have, like a
whole fridge of Coca cola.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
And just so, he was telling me the other day
he's gonna murder us for talking about but I think he
doesn't listen to our show. He was telling me the
other day that he was on the doxy cyclean when
we thought he had lives. Oh, I was so sick.
I was just like home drinking, Like I drink like
two gallons of milk that week, and I was like
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a who drinks two gallons of milk as an adult?
And be you're not really supposed to have dairy on
that medication. Doesn't it make it worse on your stomach?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't know. That medication makes me terribly sick. I
had to taken after my surgery, and it was I
just hate that feeling that it gives me.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Oh really, that never bothered me. I took it before
for my skin.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I think you know what else we should mention on
here that my brother is single. He really killed me, He.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Really kill you. But single handsome owns a house, It
owns a business.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, he owns two houses.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
And he owns a good house and he's a contractor.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, and he said it.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Is like he's also just like extremely creative and and
just smart with doing things. He likes to figure things
out ever since he was a little kid, and now
that he's older, he just you know, anything I want
in my house, I'll just be like, can you install
this for me? And he just is really creative with
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all different kinds of ideas. And he's I remember him,
he's very shy.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Twelve years old, he was installing a ceiling fan and
you know, like the wires and all that. Yeah, And
I was like, how like how do you know this?
How do you know what to do? And it's just
it's so natural to him.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
He just importantly as a mother, why weren't you like
maybe you shouldn't be playing with live wires.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
He knew what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Because she was remodeling her house.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
She just wanted the cheap free labor child leader. O.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
God, he was supervising, not that I don't know that
that was much better.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
I know, right, like Louis probably would have been better.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Supervisor was like, Dad, no, you can't do it that way.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, he's gonna kill me.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Because I want to ask him, when you give me
that Murphy bed from your basement, I want to ask
him to build like a custom bookshelf around it in
my guest room. So he's gonna really hate me when
I ask him for that. I haven't asked him for
anything in a while.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Well, I slept last night with the al picture you
gave him looking over us.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Oh that's a good picture. Yeah, it is painting.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, reminded me of the one that popad he was
staring at you. All right, guys, Well, thank you so
much to mo mom. She will probably make an appearance
again unless we post all the outtakes of us yelling
at her.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
We can't granny about tell them the elder abuse.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
But you started this culture, all right, guys. We will
be at crime Con September fifth and September seventh, And
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Speaker 2 (55:45):
Bye bye. Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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