April 15, 2025 • 19 mins
Plus, we hear about her upcoming tour and new single, "YIPPEE-KI-YAY"!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Kesha just rolled in, Hia. We have so much to
talk about, so much it's happening, okay. So let's start
with the fact that last time you sat in this
chair and we talked, you talked about this weird museum
in California with a man's skull in a box.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, do you still have this goull?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh? I didn't have the skull, did you You stole it? No?
I didn't steal it. I got to see the dead
man's head in the box, though, which was kind of
wild wild.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I totally thought it was like an Indiana Jones situation
where she smuggled it out, and.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I mean I would but Okay, I don't know what
kind of karma that brings.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
That was the last conversation. Let's pick it up from there.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
A lot has happened, okay, and a.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Lot will happen in the next several moments. Okay, Let's
talk about the upcoming studio album.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay. Let's talk about your tour this summer with Scissor Sisters.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We love It's It's out Lady, and we're gonna take
I mean, I'm going to take my I can't speak
for everybody. That's the reason why mine are coming.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
My twenty year old is gonna be like, Mom, can
you get me tickets front?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, this this show has everything. You got the sisters,
you got sister sisters, you got your out. I hear
they're serving hot dogs.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Oh yeah, everyone free, let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah where hot Where'd you read that?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right here on the bio bio in the bio. Then
I guess there's free hot time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
As you were coming into the building, a friend of
mine down the hall ran up the hall. I said,
there's this crazy dressed lady downstairs taking pictures with people.
I went, oh, Cash is here. You always wear the
best wardrobe. You always look so fun.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Today I woke up and I was like, all right, team,
we're gonna go really like casual. I just don't know how, Okay,
I don't know how or why anyone would. I don't
know how to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's beautiful, it always is. You're a walking piece of art,
and that's what That's all that matters. So, which makes
me think about it. Back in the day when you
would have you'd have the stylists come in to like
work you and do your stuff. There was a story
you told a long time ago about this Michael Jackson
event in London.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You went to, Oh yeah, okay, So it was like
one of my first red carpets and I was going
to see them Michael Jackson documentary and there was this
big premiere and the stylist came and she showed me
this dress and it was just like such a basic
bitch dress. I was like, you think I have a
basic bitch but like, all right, she was like, you
can have one of these two basic dresses. And I
(02:37):
was like, okay, I'll take the purple basic one. And
then I'm like you can go now, and then I
called my booty call. We had fun for like an hour,
and then I was like, all right, now I got
the moxie, give me the T shirt. And so I
throw a T shirt on top of this like basic
bitch dress and it's like an iconic photo. Now it's
everywhere and nobody knows that that's like just got laid.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Hair, never before told except for that other time. All right, okay,
let's get to work. By the way, can we play
this te pain sound?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Of course? He's on he's on the single with you
with You weve so he recorded his part of the
song on Twitch. Did you did you?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
He did? I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's right here, this is what we have.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Will they hear this? I just put up to the
Pine of gran.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
A couple of brand.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I need to I'm about you hear that?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I love him?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
What a crazy bastard. He's just doing that in front
of everybody. That's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He's always been really famous for his auto tune, this
and that, but all the bottle tune.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He's got a great voice.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He's a genius. He's hilarious. He's a great voice. He's
so kind. I like, I stand Tea Pin.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Let's all stand for tap I stand him and I
stand for him.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Any of the first winner for the mass singer Te
Paine the Monster? Wasn't he the Monster? I think so?
And hed an amazing voice.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Okay, So when's the album coming out?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Though?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The whole album?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The album is coming out on July fourth, Independence Day? Baby?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, let's talk about the tour. So out with Scissor
Sisters is I love them? I've always loved them me too,
I know. So it's called the It's out tour.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Or you can call it tatas out. You can use a.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Medical term, though, so we can call it the breasts
out here and make it weird.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Because we can.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
We can say penis because it's the medical term.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Let's change the name penis out.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I how fun, though, I mean, are you ready for
a of all that work.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm the CEO of my own record label. I produced,
and I wrote, and I sang every song on this album.
I have full and complete artistic and creative control for
the first time in my life. I am thirty eight
years old and I've been doing this since I was
like eight years old, so it has taken me this
long to actually be in control of what I put
out and the image and everything, the voice, everything, It's
(05:24):
all up to me. And so yes, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
There she goes.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
How good does it feel?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It just kind of it feels like I have been
like battling for this moment, like my life depended on
it for my whole life, because I kind of have been,
so it feels really good. It's like taking some getting
used to be like I am the boss of everything.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm excited for you.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm really excited you have to come and Penis out.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I can't wait for the shows.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's how it usually works the march.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I will say this, A lot of people are listening
to this right now, hearing you, and they know your
story obviously, and like in their lives, they're thinking is
if she can do it, I should try to do it.
Someone who's living this life listening to this right now,
where they are held back for whatever reason, or they're
holding themselves back for whatever reason. No one can make
(06:12):
the decision for you. No one can fix that except
for yourself. And it can be a long drawn out
battle or just start working on it right now, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean it's just listening to yourself. For me,
it's like listening to what feels right and like trusting
yourself in little ways. And you have the right to
be exactly who you are today, and you should fight
for that person to feel free.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Give yourself permission to be in charge of yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah you got.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You gotta actually give yourself permission, and you gotta let
yourself off the hook with a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Of messy, Like it might be kind of messy. I
look back in my career. Sometimes I'm like, oh my god,
I look at some red carpet pictures and I just
am like, wow, that lives on the internet forever.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Nothing you can do about that now.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
There's nothing I can And like there are some days
as I wish there was somebody I could pay to
really wipe that internet.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No you can't, because that's a that's a part of you.
What are you showing?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh my god, that's the late Oh my god, it's
like everyone thought my hair was like it's a that
was like I was getting laid a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's that something about remember that did you hear that movie?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Okay, we'll leave it right there.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
So we're talking about everything living forever. And you've said
that when you write a song, it's like a piece
of you becomes immortal.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
It stays there forever. A moment in your life.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Looking back at a very long career, are there immortalized
moments of your life that you're like, you know what, damn.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It, I'd like to delete that one. Not Oh no,
they're like beyond there are years and I'm like, wow,
you shouldn't have left the house, But like, what am
I going to do? I think that's a part of
like the growth and growing is also acceptance. Like that's
why I'm just fine if it's a little messy, because
(07:59):
life is messy and I'm just here for like I'm
here to be authentic. I'm not trying to play like
I have it all figured out. But I just think
the most radical thing we can do is love ourselves
and love each other when we have no control over
anything else that's happening out there. I think that's the
most like political radical thing we can do. And that
includes the pictures that I hate of myself, the songs
(08:22):
that I cringe at. Oh my god, there are songs
I've put out that I no, no, no, no. They're there.
You can hear them, but you cannot specific attention. I
hate them so much.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I don't even perform those songs anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I don't know that's a fun exercise. Maybe I'll like try.
There are some songs that I really have a hard
time with that I am gonna perform on this tour
because I'm doing an active service for the audience. I
am wanting them to have the best night of their
life every single night. Like I'm playing MSG for the
first time in my career, I wait, you have to go. Yeah,
(09:00):
that's amazing. Congratulations, thank you, that's awesome, right, And like
I want to go in there with I just want
it to be such a safe space for people to
come be full of love. I want to play the
songs you want to hear. I want to have fun,
and I want it to be like a beautiful healing
a couple of hours in a world full of chaos.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
What if you revamped some of the songs, like, you know,
if you had a negative reaction to it, but you
revamped it a little bit and made it like more
your own.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Now, well, that's kind of what I'm doing, not to
like give any like hot secrets away, but.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
That is exactly sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Everyone spoiler alerts.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, but speaking of vamping songs, how quickly did you
get in the studio and change the line about p
Diddy because that seems like it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh my god, well that I actually changed that in
the twenty twenty three tour. I like, I was paying
attention and I was like absolutely not, okay, I like
and good conscience can't say anything positive, yeah sentence, So
it was way before. It's before we have all the
information we have now but yeah, okay, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I love that you love in Gaga's album.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm obsessed with her. I love her so much. She
gives me so much like hope and light. And she's
the coolest.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'm sure she'd say the same about you.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
No, she's cooler.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm gonna do a reach around. I'm gonna go back
to something we talked about a second ago. You see
these photos of you in the past, this and that
we saw a play in. Part of the premise was
these bots had the ability to go back and erase
whatever they wanted to erase out of their memory.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Would you want to do that?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Or do you find that these missteps or whatever are
such an important part of who you've become you got
to keep them in there.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay, well, so here's the tea. I actually just wrote
a song about this recently. It's not on the new record,
it's not even done, but it's called idiot shivers, and
it's like, that's what I have. That's what I call
when I give myself the like cringey idiot shivers where
you're like, wow, you're being kind of an idiot right now,
to the point where you're getting chills all over your
own body, about the way you're acting.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Wow, it physically changes you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You don't have any of these moments where you're like, oh, yikes.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
No, I regret nothing. Really, look at me.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You don't. But you don't wear like why well maybe
you do in your off time? Do you wear like
wild style things sometimes and get sea pictures of it?
And you're like, that's not my And of course no.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
When I lost all my weight, I used to dress
like a fifteen year old blonde. I was a platinum blonde.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I walked in.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
My husband looked at me and said, you're a platinum blonde. Yeah,
he said, you look like Ahua Stroke Stateton Island. But
I had those moments, but I don't regret those because
I needed to go through that. I needed That's a
part of my fiber, that's my being. You got to
have these embarrassing, fed up things in your life.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well, they give you character.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So would you want to erase those?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Would I want to erase them? Let me think about it. No,
I don't want to erase it. You're right, because, like
I think, the greatest sin of all is being a
basic bit and I am not that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh no, you're not.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And I have photographic evidence.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Of course, Kesh is here.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
If you missed the beginning of this, you can always
listen to us on the iHeartRadio app. Now, let's talk
about the rest of the album. What else is like?
Where are you taking us? What ride at the Amusic Park?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Are we riding?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
What's weird? I was listening to the album as I
was coming here, but I was like listening to my
own song, thinking about how it helps me get back
to the truest form of myself. So I wanted to
capture what it sounds like to be someone who has
gone through some and is coming back home to themselves
(12:44):
and harnessing their power. Like everybody knows what I've been through.
You can google it. Anybody can go find out what
I've been through. Like I can't hide from the fact
that I've been through some stuff, but to put it
out into the world. And here's somebody who's been through
what I've been through, Like really feeling themselves and being
in their power and being in their confidence, Like I
(13:06):
pray that gives other people power and confidence.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's what I'm loving about. People who are listening to
this right now, and you know what, this is nothing
to be taken lightly. This is a heavy, heavy thing
you just said about this album, about this work, it's
I mean, this could be I'm just guessing, I don't
this could be the most major moment of your life,
this album, Yeah, because it represents like a total total
(13:29):
douching of the BS.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, and like coming back home myself.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But you know what, that BS is always gonna be
a part of your life though. Yeah, So if you
could erase any of this BS, you maybe still need
to keep it in there because it makes you who
you are, what.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Does It makes you stronger, and it gives you empathy.
I feel like the people have gone through the most
stuff have so much empathy and we're all human having
this human experience and we're not alone, and we all
feel alone and we're disconnected. So I hope this album
is like a really beautiful spot of joy and healing
and confidence. I just want to make people really feel
(14:03):
themselves no matter what you've been through.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There's so many people who can't do that. They just
can't let loose.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What you're doing and what you are going to give
us on this album is from a very personal place,
and I'm assuming most artists are trying to come from
a very personal place. But Joe Jonas or Jack Jackson
or down the hallway that they.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Don't you don't like Jonah, Okay, can we.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I just I'm just trying to come up with a name.
And for some reason, Joe Jones. This statement has nothing
to do with jo Jonason.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We love Jonas in this house.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Let's just say, let's just say Joe Smith down the
street maybe going through a lot of crap, but he
can't release it. He can't let it go like that.
And can you imagine being a person who can't do that?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well? So this is the tea, Give me the tea. Okay.
So I've been going to this hippie commune and teaching
songwriting and also gave it ted talk last year about
the alchemy of pop. So pop is my form of
art and my form of expression. But I now am
going back and teaching people how to write songs because
I cannot imagine not having an outlet. I would explode.
(15:08):
Like fashion is an outlet, cooking is an outlet, talking poetry,
playing music, whatever it is, painting. But I think it's
so important to have that outlet. And as someone who
did not have the rights to my own outlet for
twenty years. I beg of you. Don't take that for granted. Like,
you have these emotions inside of you, and if you
(15:31):
express them, it's just gonna connect you to other people. Literally.
Whatever your body is telling you, however it's supposed to
come out of you, just let it come. And the
hard part is you feel really stupid sometimes. That's why
I wouldn't erase the stupid pictures is because in that
moment that was my outlet. I put a mullet on
and walk down a red carpet and thought I was
so funny. And those pictures are horrifying, but life. In
(15:53):
that moment, my expression was joy and like humor and
I look really stupid, You don't I do you think
you do?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I think it's confirmed.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
But science science, But like I think it's really important
to like encourage people to express themselves, which is exactly
why I'm excited to go on tour this summer.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Excellent, So top tour, come express yourself.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Take you out or take yours out or don't.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And I think I'm also going to have like a
color code. I haven't got it together yet, but it's
it partnered up with Field, which is a dating app,
and I think it's really hard for people to connect
these days because we're all on our phones, right, So
you can come and depending on like what color you wear,
you're like looking for a different kind of thing, Like
I'm over these parties. Oh I like it, but like red.
(16:50):
If you wear red, it means you're like single and curious.
Or if you're like white, you're like maybe around for
a cuddle, and if you're black, you're like, don't touch me.
I will figure out the actual color coding. That's so cool.
But I want to give people a place to connect
to because I think connection is so important.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We have a lot of work to do. You got
to get the wieners for the hot dogs tests. You
got to come up with the color code system. Find
a nice pamphlet to share it with people.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I know, a handout.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I have a question about the dating app stuff. So
are you someone who has used dating apps?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh? Yeah, it's a trash pit.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It is.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
It can be a trash pit really bad.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But this I like this app because you can go
and just be like authentic about what you're into and
what you want, Like I genuinely want not sorry, I
want a sugar daddy to fly me around on his
plane and amazing, but I want to just like be
(17:51):
on a yacht. I want them to be like, which
color do you want? Baby? And I want to be like,
I want both. I want them things and the blue
and be like, oh good, you should have them both.
Go lay on your yacht, you princess.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You don't get it if you don't ask.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
For So that's what you're gonna match with the million
And I've put on my field app and I'm just
going to see if the universe is going to deliver me.
The pink and blue yacht are not the summer, but
I'm really hoping it does.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
If you should want to help you with that, just
talk to my husband. He found one.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Do you give him yacht?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
He's he's got one in every color.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You can be married to him. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We gotta play some music. This is from the upcoming
album which is coming out July fourth. What's the name
of the album?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Period?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
What is it a dance?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
No, it's period.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Period.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's actually just a period.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
This is a do okay.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It means everything, actually everything, and I don't need to
explain it because it's a.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Period and the incredible tea pain. We love you, Kesha.
You come back anytime you lift
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Kesha just rolled in, Hia. We have so much to
talk about, so much it's happening, okay. So let's start
with the fact that last time you sat in this
chair and we talked, you talked about this weird museum
in California with a man's skull in a box.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, do you still have this goull?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh? I didn't have the skull, did you You stole it? No?
I didn't steal it. I got to see the dead
man's head in the box, though, which was kind of
wild wild.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I totally thought it was like an Indiana Jones situation
where she smuggled it out, and.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I mean I would but Okay, I don't know what
kind of karma that brings.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
That was the last conversation. Let's pick it up from there.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
A lot has happened, okay, and a.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Lot will happen in the next several moments. Okay, Let's
talk about the upcoming studio album.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay. Let's talk about your tour this summer with Scissor Sisters.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We love It's It's out Lady, and we're gonna take
I mean, I'm going to take my I can't speak
for everybody. That's the reason why mine are coming.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
My twenty year old is gonna be like, Mom, can
you get me tickets front?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, this this show has everything. You got the sisters,
you got sister sisters, you got your out. I hear
they're serving hot dogs.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Oh yeah, everyone free, let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah where hot Where'd you read that?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right here on the bio bio in the bio. Then
I guess there's free hot time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
As you were coming into the building, a friend of
mine down the hall ran up the hall. I said,
there's this crazy dressed lady downstairs taking pictures with people.
I went, oh, Cash is here. You always wear the
best wardrobe. You always look so fun.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Today I woke up and I was like, all right, team,
we're gonna go really like casual. I just don't know how, Okay,
I don't know how or why anyone would. I don't
know how to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's beautiful, it always is. You're a walking piece of art,
and that's what That's all that matters. So, which makes
me think about it. Back in the day when you
would have you'd have the stylists come in to like
work you and do your stuff. There was a story
you told a long time ago about this Michael Jackson
event in London.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You went to, Oh yeah, okay, So it was like
one of my first red carpets and I was going
to see them Michael Jackson documentary and there was this
big premiere and the stylist came and she showed me
this dress and it was just like such a basic
bitch dress. I was like, you think I have a
basic bitch but like, all right, she was like, you
can have one of these two basic dresses. And I
(02:37):
was like, okay, I'll take the purple basic one. And
then I'm like you can go now, and then I
called my booty call. We had fun for like an hour,
and then I was like, all right, now I got
the moxie, give me the T shirt. And so I
throw a T shirt on top of this like basic
bitch dress and it's like an iconic photo. Now it's
everywhere and nobody knows that that's like just got laid.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Hair, never before told except for that other time. All right, okay,
let's get to work. By the way, can we play
this te pain sound?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Of course? He's on he's on the single with you
with You weve so he recorded his part of the
song on Twitch. Did you did you?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
He did? I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's right here, this is what we have.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Will they hear this? I just put up to the
Pine of gran.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
A couple of brand.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I need to I'm about you hear that?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I love him?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
What a crazy bastard. He's just doing that in front
of everybody. That's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He's always been really famous for his auto tune, this
and that, but all the bottle tune.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He's got a great voice.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He's a genius. He's hilarious. He's a great voice. He's
so kind. I like, I stand Tea Pin.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Let's all stand for tap I stand him and I
stand for him.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Any of the first winner for the mass singer Te
Paine the Monster? Wasn't he the Monster? I think so?
And hed an amazing voice.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Okay, So when's the album coming out?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Though?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The whole album?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The album is coming out on July fourth, Independence Day? Baby?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, let's talk about the tour. So out with Scissor
Sisters is I love them? I've always loved them me too,
I know. So it's called the It's out tour.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Or you can call it tatas out. You can use a.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Medical term, though, so we can call it the breasts
out here and make it weird.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Because we can.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
We can say penis because it's the medical term.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Let's change the name penis out.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I how fun, though, I mean, are you ready for
a of all that work.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm the CEO of my own record label. I produced,
and I wrote, and I sang every song on this album.
I have full and complete artistic and creative control for
the first time in my life. I am thirty eight
years old and I've been doing this since I was
like eight years old, so it has taken me this
long to actually be in control of what I put
out and the image and everything, the voice, everything, It's
(05:24):
all up to me. And so yes, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
There she goes.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
How good does it feel?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It just kind of it feels like I have been
like battling for this moment, like my life depended on
it for my whole life, because I kind of have been,
so it feels really good. It's like taking some getting
used to be like I am the boss of everything.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm excited for you.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm really excited you have to come and Penis out.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I can't wait for the shows.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's how it usually works the march.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I will say this, A lot of people are listening
to this right now, hearing you, and they know your
story obviously, and like in their lives, they're thinking is
if she can do it, I should try to do it.
Someone who's living this life listening to this right now,
where they are held back for whatever reason, or they're
holding themselves back for whatever reason. No one can make
(06:12):
the decision for you. No one can fix that except
for yourself. And it can be a long drawn out
battle or just start working on it right now, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean it's just listening to yourself. For me,
it's like listening to what feels right and like trusting
yourself in little ways. And you have the right to
be exactly who you are today, and you should fight
for that person to feel free.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Give yourself permission to be in charge of yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah you got.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You gotta actually give yourself permission, and you gotta let
yourself off the hook with a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Of messy, Like it might be kind of messy. I
look back in my career. Sometimes I'm like, oh my god,
I look at some red carpet pictures and I just
am like, wow, that lives on the internet forever.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Nothing you can do about that now.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
There's nothing I can And like there are some days
as I wish there was somebody I could pay to
really wipe that internet.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No you can't, because that's a that's a part of you.
What are you showing?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh my god, that's the late Oh my god, it's
like everyone thought my hair was like it's a that
was like I was getting laid a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's that something about remember that did you hear that movie?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Okay, we'll leave it right there.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
So we're talking about everything living forever. And you've said
that when you write a song, it's like a piece
of you becomes immortal.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
It stays there forever. A moment in your life.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Looking back at a very long career, are there immortalized
moments of your life that you're like, you know what, damn.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It, I'd like to delete that one. Not Oh no,
they're like beyond there are years and I'm like, wow,
you shouldn't have left the house, But like, what am
I going to do? I think that's a part of
like the growth and growing is also acceptance. Like that's
why I'm just fine if it's a little messy, because
(07:59):
life is messy and I'm just here for like I'm
here to be authentic. I'm not trying to play like
I have it all figured out. But I just think
the most radical thing we can do is love ourselves
and love each other when we have no control over
anything else that's happening out there. I think that's the
most like political radical thing we can do. And that
includes the pictures that I hate of myself, the songs
(08:22):
that I cringe at. Oh my god, there are songs
I've put out that I no, no, no, no. They're there.
You can hear them, but you cannot specific attention. I
hate them so much.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I don't even perform those songs anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I don't know that's a fun exercise. Maybe I'll like try.
There are some songs that I really have a hard
time with that I am gonna perform on this tour
because I'm doing an active service for the audience. I
am wanting them to have the best night of their
life every single night. Like I'm playing MSG for the
first time in my career, I wait, you have to go. Yeah,
(09:00):
that's amazing. Congratulations, thank you, that's awesome, right, And like
I want to go in there with I just want
it to be such a safe space for people to
come be full of love. I want to play the
songs you want to hear. I want to have fun,
and I want it to be like a beautiful healing
a couple of hours in a world full of chaos.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
What if you revamped some of the songs, like, you know,
if you had a negative reaction to it, but you
revamped it a little bit and made it like more
your own.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Now, well, that's kind of what I'm doing, not to
like give any like hot secrets away, but.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
That is exactly sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Everyone spoiler alerts.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, but speaking of vamping songs, how quickly did you
get in the studio and change the line about p
Diddy because that seems like it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh my god, well that I actually changed that in
the twenty twenty three tour. I like, I was paying
attention and I was like absolutely not, okay, I like
and good conscience can't say anything positive, yeah sentence, So
it was way before. It's before we have all the
information we have now but yeah, okay, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I love that you love in Gaga's album.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm obsessed with her. I love her so much. She
gives me so much like hope and light. And she's
the coolest.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'm sure she'd say the same about you.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
No, she's cooler.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm gonna do a reach around. I'm gonna go back
to something we talked about a second ago. You see
these photos of you in the past, this and that
we saw a play in. Part of the premise was
these bots had the ability to go back and erase
whatever they wanted to erase out of their memory.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Would you want to do that?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Or do you find that these missteps or whatever are
such an important part of who you've become you got
to keep them in there.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay, well, so here's the tea. I actually just wrote
a song about this recently. It's not on the new record,
it's not even done, but it's called idiot shivers, and
it's like, that's what I have. That's what I call
when I give myself the like cringey idiot shivers where
you're like, wow, you're being kind of an idiot right now,
to the point where you're getting chills all over your
own body, about the way you're acting.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Wow, it physically changes you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You don't have any of these moments where you're like, oh, yikes.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
No, I regret nothing. Really, look at me.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You don't. But you don't wear like why well maybe
you do in your off time? Do you wear like
wild style things sometimes and get sea pictures of it?
And you're like, that's not my And of course no.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
When I lost all my weight, I used to dress
like a fifteen year old blonde. I was a platinum blonde.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I walked in.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
My husband looked at me and said, you're a platinum blonde. Yeah,
he said, you look like Ahua Stroke Stateton Island. But
I had those moments, but I don't regret those because
I needed to go through that. I needed That's a
part of my fiber, that's my being. You got to
have these embarrassing, fed up things in your life.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well, they give you character.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So would you want to erase those?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Would I want to erase them? Let me think about it. No,
I don't want to erase it. You're right, because, like
I think, the greatest sin of all is being a
basic bit and I am not that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh no, you're not.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And I have photographic evidence.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Of course, Kesh is here.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
If you missed the beginning of this, you can always
listen to us on the iHeartRadio app. Now, let's talk
about the rest of the album. What else is like?
Where are you taking us? What ride at the Amusic Park?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Are we riding?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
What's weird? I was listening to the album as I
was coming here, but I was like listening to my
own song, thinking about how it helps me get back
to the truest form of myself. So I wanted to
capture what it sounds like to be someone who has
gone through some and is coming back home to themselves
(12:44):
and harnessing their power. Like everybody knows what I've been through.
You can google it. Anybody can go find out what
I've been through. Like I can't hide from the fact
that I've been through some stuff, but to put it
out into the world. And here's somebody who's been through
what I've been through, Like really feeling themselves and being
in their power and being in their confidence, Like I
(13:06):
pray that gives other people power and confidence.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's what I'm loving about. People who are listening to
this right now, and you know what, this is nothing
to be taken lightly. This is a heavy, heavy thing
you just said about this album, about this work, it's
I mean, this could be I'm just guessing, I don't
this could be the most major moment of your life,
this album, Yeah, because it represents like a total total
(13:29):
douching of the BS.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, and like coming back home myself.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But you know what, that BS is always gonna be
a part of your life though. Yeah, So if you
could erase any of this BS, you maybe still need
to keep it in there because it makes you who
you are, what.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Does It makes you stronger, and it gives you empathy.
I feel like the people have gone through the most
stuff have so much empathy and we're all human having
this human experience and we're not alone, and we all
feel alone and we're disconnected. So I hope this album
is like a really beautiful spot of joy and healing
and confidence. I just want to make people really feel
(14:03):
themselves no matter what you've been through.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There's so many people who can't do that. They just
can't let loose.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What you're doing and what you are going to give
us on this album is from a very personal place,
and I'm assuming most artists are trying to come from
a very personal place. But Joe Jonas or Jack Jackson
or down the hallway that they.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Don't you don't like Jonah, Okay, can we.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I just I'm just trying to come up with a name.
And for some reason, Joe Jones. This statement has nothing
to do with jo Jonason.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We love Jonas in this house.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Let's just say, let's just say Joe Smith down the
street maybe going through a lot of crap, but he
can't release it. He can't let it go like that.
And can you imagine being a person who can't do that?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well? So this is the tea, Give me the tea. Okay.
So I've been going to this hippie commune and teaching
songwriting and also gave it ted talk last year about
the alchemy of pop. So pop is my form of
art and my form of expression. But I now am
going back and teaching people how to write songs because
I cannot imagine not having an outlet. I would explode.
(15:08):
Like fashion is an outlet, cooking is an outlet, talking poetry,
playing music, whatever it is, painting. But I think it's
so important to have that outlet. And as someone who
did not have the rights to my own outlet for
twenty years. I beg of you. Don't take that for granted. Like,
you have these emotions inside of you, and if you
(15:31):
express them, it's just gonna connect you to other people. Literally.
Whatever your body is telling you, however it's supposed to
come out of you, just let it come. And the
hard part is you feel really stupid sometimes. That's why
I wouldn't erase the stupid pictures is because in that
moment that was my outlet. I put a mullet on
and walk down a red carpet and thought I was
so funny. And those pictures are horrifying, but life. In
(15:53):
that moment, my expression was joy and like humor and
I look really stupid, You don't I do you think
you do?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I think it's confirmed.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
But science science, But like I think it's really important
to like encourage people to express themselves, which is exactly
why I'm excited to go on tour this summer.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Excellent, So top tour, come express yourself.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Take you out or take yours out or don't.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And I think I'm also going to have like a
color code. I haven't got it together yet, but it's
it partnered up with Field, which is a dating app,
and I think it's really hard for people to connect
these days because we're all on our phones, right, So
you can come and depending on like what color you wear,
you're like looking for a different kind of thing, Like
I'm over these parties. Oh I like it, but like red.
(16:50):
If you wear red, it means you're like single and curious.
Or if you're like white, you're like maybe around for
a cuddle, and if you're black, you're like, don't touch me.
I will figure out the actual color coding. That's so cool.
But I want to give people a place to connect
to because I think connection is so important.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We have a lot of work to do. You got
to get the wieners for the hot dogs tests. You
got to come up with the color code system. Find
a nice pamphlet to share it with people.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I know, a handout.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I have a question about the dating app stuff. So
are you someone who has used dating apps?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh? Yeah, it's a trash pit.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It is.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
It can be a trash pit really bad.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But this I like this app because you can go
and just be like authentic about what you're into and
what you want, Like I genuinely want not sorry, I
want a sugar daddy to fly me around on his
plane and amazing, but I want to just like be
(17:51):
on a yacht. I want them to be like, which
color do you want? Baby? And I want to be like,
I want both. I want them things and the blue
and be like, oh good, you should have them both.
Go lay on your yacht, you princess.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You don't get it if you don't ask.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
For So that's what you're gonna match with the million
And I've put on my field app and I'm just
going to see if the universe is going to deliver me.
The pink and blue yacht are not the summer, but
I'm really hoping it does.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
If you should want to help you with that, just
talk to my husband. He found one.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Do you give him yacht?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
He's he's got one in every color.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You can be married to him. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We gotta play some music. This is from the upcoming
album which is coming out July fourth. What's the name
of the album?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Period?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
What is it a dance?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
No, it's period.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Period.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's actually just a period.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
This is a do okay.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It means everything, actually everything, and I don't need to
explain it because it's a.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Period and the incredible tea pain. We love you, Kesha.
You come back anytime you lift
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