45-year-old Brett Lemieux exposes his multi-year sports memorabilia con game -- and apparently dies by his own hand. The aviation giant Delta airlines roles out an intensely controversial "AI super-analyst" to change the price you pay for tickets, from one second to the next. Two more tragedies: one with an MRI machine, and one with American Derek Huffman accidentally joining the frontlines of Russia's War against Ukraine. Also, the gang wants to hear about your favorite sleeper hit fast food franchises. All this and more in this week's strange news segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Name is Noa. They call me Bed. We're joined as
always with our super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan.
Most importantly, you argue you are here. That makes this
the stuff they don't want you to know. It's time
for some news and spoiler, friends and neighbors. This news
is going to be strange. If you are tuning in
(00:52):
to our program the evening it publishes. Let us welcome
you to July twenty eighth, twenty five. Guys. I don't
know about you. I feel like it's important for us
to say the date because we're creating time capsules. Maybe
we'll look back in a few years and think, Wow,
(01:15):
that was really prescient. Or maybe we'll look back in
a few years and think, oh, Epstein got away with it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think we're gonna think that.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Uh No, matter what.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We're thinking it now.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, a lot of people got away with a lot
of things.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
But like got away. How did he get away with it?
I guess he nobody had to learn the truth really,
the extent of what was going on, I would say.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, And I guess if we're waxing philosophical here, mortality
means that everybody gets away at some point. Oh boy, uh,
weird energy. Right. One thing we want to mention at
the top is our friends at Microsoft have spent one
one point seven billion dollars on poop burial.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm sexplain, I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, so they've got a partnership with a company called
Vaulted Deep, which is a carbon removal company, and their
ideas they're going to remove four point nine million metric
tons of carbon emissions over the next twelve years, so
decade and two years.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Is this a story I saw about?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Is Microsoft?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You said, am I Microsoft investing a bunch of money
to help places that don't have any kind of sewer
access or like traditional septic access. So it's like a
new version of that or is that is that the
same story?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah? Yeah, you nailed it. Vaulted Deep collects manure, sewage,
and agricultural byproducts. How's that for euphemism? These things would
normally block up water ways, or they would rot in landfills.
So this company makes them into like an in and
out kind of milkshake, viscous substance, and then they bury
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it about five thousand feet underground.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's pretty it's pretty specific. Yeah, So shout out to Microsoft,
Shout out to burying your poop. We've got a lot
more stuff to get to. We're going to talk about
some crime, We're going to explore some just desserts abroad.
We're going to have a parable about MRIs, we might
(03:40):
talk about monks a little bit. But before we do
any of that, we've got a We've got a lot
of sports fans in the audience, guys, We've got a
lot of friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realists who are
perhaps fans of sports memorabilia. So what say we pause
for word from our sponsors and then deliver the mail
(04:05):
I think we must.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And we've returned. I can't stop thinking about burying a
whole bunch of crap five thousand feet below the surface.
And it feels like some kind of long game to
create geo thermal power. If you can put mass quantities
of you know, heated, disgusting poo poos down that far
(04:33):
and then somehow it interacts with the mantle, and then
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, I've really been doing the new Donkey Kong game,
wherein you smash your way through the Earth's crust or
the planet's crust in order to dig up veins of gold.
I'm just imagining now, Donkey, poor Donkey Kong encountering a vein.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Of poo pooh. We also Lord of the Rings. We
delved too Deep, too Deep? Microsoft, Yes, the original Balrog
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, guys, speaking of mass quantities of let's talk about
something that just came to light weirdly enough. If you
are a sports fan, perhaps a sports memorabilia fan, you
may have already known about this for a long time.
But for the rest of us, no offense, guys, or
you tell me if I'm wrong here, But I would
(05:28):
say the four of us are not the biggest sports
memorabilia collectors, at least it's not a pastime of mine.
We have a few things that my dad has passed down,
some Chipper Jones stuff, some Atlanta Braves signed stuff, But
I don't have anything that's you know, vastly expensive or
like a real collector's item. But do you guys have
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anything like that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I have a couple of things, yeah, records, just like
fun records. But they were to your point, they were
gifted to me. I did not actively seek these things
or these artifacts out exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's not an active hobby for any of us. But
for people who are active in that hobby, they're always
on the lookout for bogus items, stuff that looks legit
but probably isn't. What are we talking about. We're talking
about basketball, jerseys, baseballs, literally anything that is sports related,
(06:28):
especially like a specific item with like a number associated
with a particular player.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
A jersey, perhaps, some sort of like you know, game
warn item, maybe rings, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Those are really big assigned artifact of some sort, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And this basic concept of having a human being sign
with their hand and a pen a piece of memorabilia
and then you getting that thing puts you one step away,
less than one step away, one pen away from that
human being that you, perhaps I was gonna say, idolize
a bit, or at least you have a great reverence
(07:05):
for You admire that person a lot, right, You appreciate
their whatever it is that they have, and do you
appreciate it a lot? This is cool.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's a reliquary. Yes, it's similar to it's similar to
religious adoration of saints. Yes, if we're being honest, because sport,
oh god, sport whatever, keep it at because sports become
a matter of ideology and religion and articles of faith.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, I remember the like nineteen ninety two
braves lineup, and I thought of those guys like they
were heroes or you know, monster like not real. They're
too big to be actual human beings in my mind, right,
I get that thing. Well, when you feel that way,
when you're interested in getting stuff like that, you really
want to make sure that you're getting the real deal,
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because if you're not, you could be paying three hundred dollars,
five hundred dollars, several thousand dollars to get one of
these things that theoretically is the real signature the real
human did it?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You get it?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You can put it on your wall, you can put
it on a mantle, and you feel good about it.
You could talk with your friends about it. That's the
real thing. That is a Jordan pair of tennis shoes.
I don't know Jan Chipper Jones.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's the mit that Chipper Jones was using in the
nineteen nineties at the brief Stadium.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Donnie Freeman's Dirty Gym sock.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
My dad and I were just talking about it. I
have an actual Chipper Jones home run ball, like it's
the real thing. He actually signed it. We've got it.
It's in my parents' house.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's cool, Matt. I do imagine they're at professional authenticatures
of these tap of items and appraisers, but maybe those
two things aren't the same, or there's a crossover. I'm curious. Oh,
there are.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
There are big companies that their entire job, their entire
business is authenticating this kind of thing and making sure
for you, as a person buying it, you're getting the
real thing. And they create things like every other company
does a specific logo, specific colors on that logo, specific packaging,
all that kind of stuff to make sure you're aware
(09:07):
you're getting a real thing. They also, interestingly enough, especially
for like cards and for other specific things, if you're
getting it framed, there will be a hologram, a very specific,
difficult to recreate hologram that goes on these products, and
that is one of those things kind of like the
weird stuff that's on the new dollar bills here in the.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
US or the new passports.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, very I would say, very difficult to exactly replicate.
There are a lot of people out there who have
tried to recreate things like this, or to at least
make a facsimile. That is, you could trick your eye
or something right.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Not associated with stuff they don't want you to.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Do, definitely, but there are a lot of people that
have attempted to do this right.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The news that broke pretty recently for all of us
who are not in the cl acts industry is that
a huge player in that industry, not one of the
major corporations, but a pretty dang big website that made
a lot of moves out there called mister man Cave
came under fire and under FBI investigation, and the individual
(10:19):
at the helm of this thing called mister man Cave
took to Facebook when the FBI was raiding his warehouses
and the facilities where he was running his business, and
he essentially created a manifesto you guys, or it's being
called a manifesto, it's really just a big FU to everybody,
(10:41):
Like to everybody mostly people who buy sports memorabilia and
the sports memorabilia industry altogether. But he came out and
he made some statements about how much money he's made
through mister man Cave over the years, many items he sold,
(11:02):
and that every single one of these I think around
four million items that he's sold has been a fake,
a forgery, a fraud. And we are talking forgeries of
those holograms that are difficult to recreate. We are talking
like eighty thousand copies of like an athlete that just
(11:25):
passed away, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Baseball card, or on some sort of like lanyard, what
kind of hologram.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
On all kinds of different products. It's a specific hologram
for some of these other larger companies that are supposed
to verify the authenticity of things. And he's mass manufacturing
them and putting out millions of items into the ecosystem
of other people who are then, you know, buying and
selling and trading all of these things, and the values
(11:52):
of them are all going up. But then he just
he puts this poison pill out on Facebook that says, hey,
guess what most of that stuff you're dealing with right now,
all that stuff you think is so valuable.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I made it and it's fake.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Wow, well he's not saving it for the swim back.
I think he's speaking maybe in past tense.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's you know, yes. So the way it was written,
it was definitely one of those things that is a
confession of sorts. And it's happening as the FBI is
actively looking through all his stuff and they're figuring out
all of these things, and then they found a body
at one of the places of business with a self
(12:34):
inflicted gunshot wound, and it was in fact Brett Lemieux,
the man who wrote that post, the man who was
running this whole thing that was, you know, a huge
part of this industry. So really weird, tragic, kind of scary.
I don't I don't even know how to describe this
strange news story because it it's a thing that, again,
(12:57):
a lot of people already knew that this was happening,
a lot of people even knew specifically that Lemieux had
this stuff going on, because you can find new stories
all the way back from twenty thirteen where other companies
that Lemieux was running in this same industry were being
accused of things like not sending out orders that come
in for you know, hundreds of dollars, not giving out
(13:19):
gift certificates or not redeeming gift certificates that were bought
through the websites, putting out fake merchandise, all that kind
of stuff. There are all these allegations that go back
on him for a long time, and yet still mister
man Cave was able to proliferate all kinds of stuff. Well,
it's just weird, guys, because it makes me think about
(13:40):
the value of things. You know, how we put value
on stuff. We've talked about that many times on the
show in different ways, and this is one of those
things that just makes you realize it's our belief, all
of it. We say that over and over again. Value
is a belief.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Articles are paid quick question here, and I think a
lot of us listening tonight are going to have the
same question, Matt, Do we have any do we have
any information on the sophistication or the level of forgery here,
because it sounds like, okay, there's a grifter. These are
(14:20):
counterfeit goods. But they must have been They must have
had for similitude, right, They must have looked very legit
if this grift was able to continue for as long
as it did. It kind of reminds me of the
North Korean counterfeit one hundred US dollars.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
These are high end items collectors, right, Yeah, that's a
great like, that's a question.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What was the level of the con.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The level of the con was was very sophisticated, flawless.
Let's see, here's a state from Lemieux. This comes from
Sports Collector's Digest, written by Greg Bates on July sixteenth.
You can look it up. The title is breaking news
sports memorabilia dealer found dead after admitting to three hundred
(15:13):
and fifty million dollar fraud and forgery scheme. If you
go down in the article, you'll see it's a snippet
from the Facebook post that lem You made and it states, quote,
it was a thrill having every athlete and every sport
from every authentication company at your fingertips to produce the
signature flawless, authenticate it with a flawless bootleg hologram, and
(15:35):
then sell it for half of what the company does
buy the thousands. That's all I spent my time in
life on what was the next item to do? The
next name, next flawless signature. I'm gonna keep going. This
is intense. Yeah, I was addicted. It was a rush.
I wanted out, but the money was too good. I
can make one hundred thousand dollars in a week if
(15:56):
I wanted to the fact that not one dealer that
knew what we were doing to the industry or when I
took their exclusive, no one ever picked up a phone
to confront me. That baffled me. I told multiple dealers,
I will ruin you and you're exclusive. They knew better.
And he's again, like I said at the beginning, he's
(16:17):
kind of a big fu to everybody. But in a
weird way. What he's saying here, if we take it
at face value, he's saying that everybody kind of knew
there's a bunch of fakes out there and not.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
All this.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Well, because if they're good enough and there's enough of
it being sold, what happens when you make a sale. Potentially,
if you make enough sale, the price of that product
or that good or that service goes up because now
more people want it, Oh, well, we can charge more.
So the industry knew that with this guy, this individual
in this company flooding the market with stuff. With expensive stuff,
(16:54):
everybody else's prices get to go higher and higher.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And hire doesn't that make prices go down?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, uh, theoretically, but it's available. Does that make sense?
Like so with collectibles, it's a it's a it's ly is. Yeah,
the invatory is pretty low, right, the number of actual
signed jerseys that you can get. But if now there's
more of them and you can still charge the same
price for them, and you've you're only talking about you know,
(17:22):
maybe thousands of people on the planet or tens of
thousands of people that can afford it, if I yea,
if all of them get what they want, right, then
it goes.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Up finite supply infinite demand theoretically such that such that
if we have I was going to see, we have
a cottage industry of middlemen, right or middle folk, And
if everybody is getting a little bit of a vigoroush
(17:52):
then no one really wants the game to end. Yes, right,
So continuing on this analogy, looks like our guy had
a seventh inning stretch and just decided to, uh, that's baseball,
take the grift with him when he left. So do
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we go for sure, like Matt, how how much detail
do we have about the manner of death or the
context leading up to Brett Lemeu's exposing of this conspiracy,
because it's very much a conspiracy at this point.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, yeah, all I know is from the reporting here.
USA Today wrote a piece. A lot of places have
written pieces about this. I'm pulling mostly from USA Today,
Sports Collectors, Digest, and CBS. But you know, all I've
seen officially is that early on a body was discovered
during the FBI investigation, you know, actually going through warehouses
(18:55):
and buildings and stuff, and they found a body that
had a self inflicted gunshot wound. That was the reporting
that came out. Well, then it was reported that it
was in fact Brett Lemieux, and that's all I've really got.
Do you have anything new?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, this is strange news to me. I don't know
about you, NOL, but I do think we have some
digging to do because one thing that always gets us
when we're talking about this level of counterfeiting and forgery,
Obviously there's a lot of self interest involved, so it
(19:29):
must have been an open secret to at least some people.
But I always have to think about the people who
are being impersonated, right, like to your point, the Chipper
Jones who says I didn't sign that, or God knows,
Chipper must have signed a lot of stuff in his time,
(19:51):
or to Nol's point, you know how many things has
Michael Jordan signed? Have any of the athletes being impersonated
spoken up about this? I think that would be interesting
to learn.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I haven't seen that. I saw a quote in
here from a guy named Steve Grad that was in
the USA Today article I believe, yes, that was written
July eighteenth, man found deada mid investigation for selling counterfeit
sports memorabilia. If you look down at the bottom of
that one, we'll see that this guy is actually saying
something counter to what I was talking about. And maybe
(20:24):
I was just completely wrong, or maybe it's just a
collection of different things of how this stuff affects an industry.
But Steve Grad says that people have known about this guy,
they've known his work, they know what he's been up to.
He's been at it for years and years. He's driven
down the price of things. So they're saying he's or
Steve is saying he's driven down the price of things.
You know, look at a Tom Brady autograph and Tom
(20:46):
Brady's value is affected drastically by this individual. Perhaps to
that point you were saying, Noel like flooding the market
is actually bringing the prices down, but it's way more available.
So then now I'm fits the South theoretically, I know,
I'm a little more confused, and now wrap my head
(21:06):
around this a little more same y'all.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Remember when O. J. Simpson got in trouble for robbing
his own memorabilia. That was kind of what ultimately like
brought him down after all of the murder trial stuff.
Like I think he actually, yeah, he like busted into
a hotel room and like held up, you know, a
bunch of memorabilia folks who had were in possession of
(21:31):
a lot of his personal memorabilia. I just think it's
the idea of memorabilia as currency is fascinating to me.
I think I mentioned this too on a previous conversation
about stuff like this, but not to blow anybody's spot up.
But I know a guy who knows a guy who
has made a pretty good buck with a racket selling
counterfeit Donald Trump signature. Apparently there's a market for that.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Wow, there's a market for everything. All you have to
do is create that market. Everybody, please check out our episode.
I can't remember when this came out, but check out
our episode on serial killer memorabilia. That that is I
think a thoroughly American pursuit. There's this deification of notoriety
(22:23):
or celebrity.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, it's also fascinating that how Nazi memorabilia is straight
up illegal, you know, in good in Germany.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Absolutely, But I mean there's a market for that too.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, you're right. It makes us think of a larger
context here, because what we're seeing is ethics aside a
successful conspiracy, Right, We're seeing successful well every con is
(22:56):
a conspiracy, so yeah, right, So we're seeing someone who
for a time didn't just succeed in lying to people
and grifted them, but also succeeded in accumulating support within that,
(23:17):
As you said, Matt, ecosystem, which means logically, you guys,
stop me if I'm going too far here, this logically
implies that there must be other similar grifts occurring in
the world of sports memorabilia.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I think it's widespreads Like,
I'm nervous about everything, especially when you look at buying
things online. Now, and in different stores, and the stuff
that's available in Amazon officially, and like everybody's cool with it,
but wait, what is that? Actually it's creeping me out.
But hey, I know we got to take a break
here here awhere from our sponsors, but we will be
(23:59):
right back with even more strange.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
News who and we have returned. H It's no secret, folks,
Dylan and Nol and Matt and yours truly are often
on the road. We have eternal adventures on the horizon,
(24:24):
which means that we take trains and cars and planes.
And I think we all saw the news recently, troubly
bit of aviation conspiracy. Uh, Nol, Matt, Dylan, did you
guys hear about Delta's new pricing plan.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I saw a headline that included to real problematic letters,
but I didn't really dig much deeper. So I'm curious
to hear. I know this is something that's being done
with pricing, you know, like by a ticketmaster for example,
and like you know, ways of doing these kind of
dynamic pricing. And we also already know that airline pricing
is such a black box, so I'm curious as to
(25:06):
how this makes it worse and blacker.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Of a box. Yeah, dynamic pricing. You nailed it, dude.
Delta Airlines is first to the post in a public
announcement regarding AI pricing. So the idea is that currently
this airline, famous airline based here in the metropolis of Atlanta, Georgia,
(25:32):
wants twenty percent of all the flights they sell to
be priced using artificial intelligence. The two problematic letters that
they'll just mentioned. They previously did a soft rollout with this.
The concept is that if you are, say a frequent flyer,
(25:57):
like a lot of us in the audience tonight, you
will get a different price than you would if you were,
say a one time or non frequent flyer. So, for instance,
if Dylan Tennessee pal Fagan is taking a round trip
ticket to Bhutan, Nepal, whatever, Uh, that will be a
(26:22):
different price than it would be if Dylan was saying,
I'm going to take a one way ticket to Dylan,
what's a country you want to go to? Let's say, uh, Thailand, Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That that comes up in a minute.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Right guice guice foreshadowy. So this means that if if
you are booking a flight to Thailand via Delta, a
lot of information about your previous interactions with this airline
will come into play when they give you that black
(27:02):
box price. So if Dylan is going on a round
trip to Thailand and then back to the States, that
price is going to be goosed a little bit. Since
we've been using the word goost, which I quite love. Really, Yeah,
is on, and let's talk a little bit about this
(27:25):
before we before we move on. I just think you
absolutely nailed it with the idea of things being a
black box. Now full disclosure, folks, Matt Nol and Dylan
and I have often had to dive into research for
(27:47):
booking a flight, you know what I mean. I remember
Noel specifically when you and I would be looking at
different airlines and we both knew that we had to
be somewhere by like Thursday.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, when the company is
paying for stuff, we do try to be thoughtful about that,
and of course when we're paying for it, we try
to be thoughtful. We just tend to try to be thoughtful,
and you typically do get goosed when you're buying too
close to the takeoff time.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Mm hmm. Yeah. So the concept here is that Delta
will have a pricing algorithm that they describe as a
super analyst, and it will constantly, continually calculate what price
point it takes for a passenger to book a seat,
(28:37):
or essentially, like put bluntly and undiplomatically, they're going to
figure out the maximum amount of money you will pay
for a trip. The company itself is portrayed this as
a matter of efficiency, a matter of convenience. Yet to
(28:59):
say that at part allowed for all our fellow travelers.
The concern is that this will be a kind of discrimination,
a new kind of discrimination that isn't really addressed in
the current laws of the United States.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
So how okay, how is it targeting folks in a
discriminatory fashion?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Right? Right? It really depends on the vocabulary of information
or data that exist right in this system. So if we,
for instance, know that Matt Frederick is a guy who
always travels to meandmar in September, then will that price
(29:50):
for that known trip, Will it be higher? Will it
be lower? Because they want to keep them? I don't
you know. It's difficult because this is a precedent. The
discrimination is going to be financial socioeconomic discrimination, not necessarily
(30:11):
race creed ideology anything like that. These are very dangerous times.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I agree. I guess my counterpoint is that isn't it
already to a degree, Like you know, even being able
to fly Delta is financially discriminatory because it is inherently
more expensive than like budget airlines, and they do already
(30:36):
have access to your data if you're a frequent flyer
and booking directly through Delta and likely through other means
because it's ultimately at the end of the day going
to end up with Delta in terms of you know,
ticketing you so, aren't they already doing stuff like this?
And do we really have any transparency into the ticket
prices as it is? Are there any laws that require that?
(31:00):
Is this not inevitable?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Those are great questions and I like the way you're
framing them, because we have to be honest. Travel aviation
especially is a commodity. It is not a human right,
similar to water or shelter food.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
They depending on who you ask.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
We're on the same page. No, everybody deserves certain things.
We know that there are there are opportunities for shenanigans here,
and the big concern is that aviation companies in general,
airlines will leverage this stuff not to be more efficient,
(31:48):
not necessarily to help their passengers, but instead to squeeze
as much financial blood from the stone as possible. If
we go to UH, folks like Sam Hollander, who's a
co founder at Autopilot, we'll see this put in pretty
simple terms. Sam says, quote, if Delta's AI knows you
(32:12):
consistently book premium cabins and expense through corporate accounts, why
would it not test higher price points. This algorithm will
identify customers with lower price sensitivity and adjust accordingly. Right, Okay,
So I.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Wait at basically saying like, if you can afford it,
they're going to get it out of you. Yes, that's
what lower price sensitivity means. Like, I don't really care.
I'm willing to throw down the extra. It doesn't mean
all that much to me.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right, I am Jack's corporate expense account. There you go
kind of thing. Yeah, this is UH, this is something
that we'd love to hear more about, folks. We know
this is not just going to be limited to one usline.
This will probably roll out throughout the globe, and we
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want to hear your take on this. We hope you
travel safely. We hope that you are very careful with
where you decide to go and how you decide to
get there, which means it's time for a segue. All right,
We've got to give you a breaking news story. Everybody
(33:27):
who has lived in the United States at some point
has thought should I live somewhere else? Especially in these
our current divisive times. A lot of our fellow US
residents have said, maybe there's a better place for me.
(33:49):
And this is the best way to introduce Derek Huffman,
a forty six year old man who moved to Russia
with his wife and his fortune children in search of
what he saw as traditional values to escape wokeism. UH
to do this, and Russia does have some programs we
(34:11):
discussed previously. They want people to immigrate there. UH. To
do this, Derek had to sign up for the Russian
military so that he could gain citizenship for himself, his spouse,
and his kids. Before we go on, do you want
(34:33):
to sign up for this program?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I'm listening.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You'll have my interest, now you have my attention or whatever.
However that so this guy, Derek Kuffman, he felt that
the Western world, the US in particular, was in doctrinating
(35:01):
the public with what he calls LGBT propaganda. So he
thought the world in which he lived was getting too woke.
He said that he had been just isolated and discriminated
against because his ideology was being suppressed, and so he
(35:26):
wrote to He learned about the Russian citizenship offers, and
he moved to Moscow from Texas. He joined the military,
and he got a guarantee in writing that he would
not be assigned to a combat position. Spoiler alert. He
(35:46):
was immediately put into a shake and bake program of
combat training. He was deployed to the front line.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Okay, Ben, this is ringing a bell now. We talked
about this program a while back.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, the ex pat sort of what's the word not clemency,
But I don't know a path to that given some
of the issues at play here in this country. Though.
Russia maybe is not the place that I would necessarily
want to hang my hat if I were trying to
escape this particular oppressive regime, you know what I mean.
It's sort of like out of the frying pan into
(36:21):
the fire kind of, if you ask me, literally, in
this guy's situation, very much into the fire.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah. Yeah, he got rushed into combat training immediately, and
it only got two weeks of training. His wife, Dianna Huffman,
said that her husband feels like he is being thrown
to the wolves and he is having to quote lean
on faith. This is terrible. I was talking with some
(36:49):
of our colleagues while I was on the road about
this story in particular, and the main thing we have
to remember is that those four, those four American born
children did not have the ability to consent. They're stuck
in a suburb of Russia right now with no clear
(37:11):
exit plan. Not great, not ideal. It's what we call
a non ideal situation. Derek Huffman is I think now
an icon. It's an example for the class about Russia's
visa program. The visa program. You'll love this. It's called
(37:35):
Shared Values, and the idea is it will allow foreigners,
non Russians, who are dissatisfied with their government for any reason,
to seek Russian residency so long as they agree with
the Kremlin's moral and spiritual principles. We hate the gays too,
(37:56):
something like that. I mean, honestly, it's culture worst up
is Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I can't say I have too much empathy for the
guy in this particular situation. And we know we try
to exercise empathy even with folks that we don't agree with.
But kind of had it come in a little bit.
I'm sorry I had you know I do have empathy
for Ben as I know you do, as well as
you mentioned as the kids, because they have no agency
in any of this.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right, Yeah, it's some real fa f o stuff. That
is that like it's f around and find sorry, I
got you, you got it because we know that. Look,
we know that most people are not happy with their governments.
Just statistically that is true. But I love your frying
(38:48):
pan into the fire analogy.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Into the line of fire. I mean, yeah, find a
point on it.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
But Jesus, yes, from the frying pan to the front lines, right,
this guy is this guy is not a unique case.
We are going to see a lot of international movement
or attempts of individuals and families to relocate across the globe.
(39:15):
And please, please, please, folks, let this be a parable,
Let this be a moral Make sure you know what
you are getting into. Check research as much as you can,
and if you are planning to live in a land
that is new to you, I'm just going to say it,
(39:38):
visit first treat it as though you would do the
same thing you would do if you were moving to
a different town in the same country. Yes, visit little weekend.
You know what I mean? You love Chicago? Will go
spend a weekend in Chicago during winter?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Try some Lord? Make sure? Oh my god, don't really don't.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Do you think anybody really likes Milord?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
People say they do. My friend THEO says he does.
He bought me a bottle of it as sort of
a housewarming gift, and I don't drink that kind of
stuff anymore at all. But even when I did, that
was I would have had to be real many sheets
to the wind before I would take a nip off
of that bottle. How on earth anyone curious? It doesn't
know what we probably talked about him. The Lord is
(40:25):
a very Chicago centric liqueur or. I don't know if
you'd even call it that. That tastes the way vomit smells.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, it's like have you ever witnessed a war crime
and wish it had had to taste Milord? Lord is
just straight not great. Give us your hot takes. I
think it's just nostalgia or team spirit for Chicago conspiracy
at iHeartRadio dot com. Please defend malort to us. Dylan
(40:56):
Tennessee Pall Fagan, shout out to you and your brother
in law. Dylan says, My brother in law says he
loves my Lord right like I said.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
THEO says it as well.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I love THEO.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
He also is a bit of edge. Lord is the
wrong words. He unironically likes a lot of terrible stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
You know. I'm friends with the.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well there you go, and then you
know what I'm talking about. He is also my short
short spirit animal spirit guide. Yeah. I look up to
him in many ways, and I love the man, and
I think nothing but the world of him. But yeah,
I don't know. I don't know if one can truly
like my Lord.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, tell us your thoughts. Folks, Please describe the taste
of alert as you see it. Tell us if you
are a fan. We don't mean to cast aspersion on.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Anybody's no yucks of yums.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
We don't know. Yu. Fine, I'm being so diplomatic, and yeah,
thank you for talking me back from the edge. We
don't have time to get to the Moldovan oligarch who
just got detained in Greece. I don't know how much
news that will make in the West, but he got
away with something like a billion dollars US. So we
(42:16):
are going to pause for a word from our sponsors.
We're gonna go in and out of Metallic Chain's MRIs
and of course Monks.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
And we have returned, sadly no longer joined by our compatriot,
Matthew Frederick, who is having a lovely cabin get away
weekend with his family and apparently the internet the bed,
so he had to drop off. But I hope he's
playing some lovely Mario Kart arcade in the incredible game
room that this place is furnished with, so all the
(42:54):
love there to Matthew and his family. We are going
to start off. I'm going to start off with a
mild spoiler really quickly for a movie that's that's kind
of definitely within spoiler territory in terms of the statute limitation.
It is file Destination Bloodlines, which I thought was quite
a lot of fun, quite a romp, very funny, very gory, exciting.
(43:17):
I do recommend folks check it out. This is a
real life final destination kind of story. One of the
set pieces in the film involves an MRI machine. I'm
just going to leave it at that without spoiling any
more about the mechanics of that, because, as we all know,
the fun of those movies is seeing the way the
(43:37):
Rube Goldberg, you know, murder machines kind of play out.
This is also a sad story. I'm not I'm not
trying to make light of it. This is an individual
who has lost his life and left behind a wife
who is very much grieving. But lest you wonder if
this type of thing is possible, it apparently very much is.
(44:00):
NBC reports man wearing heavy metallic necklace dies after being
sucked into MRI machine. A sixty one year old man
has died after he was sucked into a magnetic resonance
imaging machine a medical center while he was wearing a
heavy metal necklace. The man entered a room at Nasau
Open MRI in Westbury on New York's Long Island without
(44:22):
permission as the MRI machine was running. Nassau County Police
Department set His wife, who spoke to the BBC, said
that she had called him into the room after her
scan and his very heavy chain necklace. We're not talking
about like a little thin metal chain. We're talking about
(44:42):
the kind of heavy chain that you might use to
secure a bicycle, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, it's like a brack, it's like a bike chain.
We're talking pounds of weight.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I think that's right, twenty pounds in fact, nine kilos
if you are in the region where the BBC reports
from a chain with a lock that he used for
weight training. Seemed like a tough fella at that instant,
she said. The machine switched him around and pulled him in.
(45:12):
This is terrifying, and he hit the MRI. This comes
from Adrianne Jones McAllister. Victim was not named, however, she
told local TV say she didn't speak directly BBC there
reporting from News twelve Long Island that it was her husband, Keith,
who sadly passed away. She said the visit on the
(45:36):
sixteenth of July was not her and her husband's first
time at the facility. It was also not the first
time the employee had seen her husband's weight that he
used for training. She claimed an employee and her husband
previously quote had a conversation about it before. Oh that's
a big chain. It's a big chain right there.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And he used it for weight training. That's what we Seeah,
it was a decorative.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
No, I know, it's interesting, it's true, Ben, I do
wonder you know, I mean, maybe it's someone who likes
to wear their swollness on their sleeve or on their neck.
You know, it's a little bit of a flex but
maybe it's an ongoing kind of weight training, you know,
to have that around your night to beef up those
those neck muscles. So makes sense. Not something that I'm
(46:20):
familiar with, but yeah, it's a sad thing that happened.
The BBC contacted Nasau open Mri for comment. I guess
the question a lot of people are asking is will
there be a lawsuit? You know, it does seem that
the gentleman went in there into a restricted area wearing this,
and I would imagine that there are waivers that are signed,
(46:43):
or that there's some understanding that you know, if you
trespass more or less into an unauthorized area, then you know,
it's kind of on you. What do you think, Ben,
do you think there's grounds for a lawsuit? We're going
to talk a little bit more about does this thing
happen often? In a second, right, there is precedent for this. Look,
(47:04):
we have accounts from other people who are MRI techs.
I'm thinking of at Nicole, the MRI tech literally her
name on social media. She shows how silver and gold
jewelry kind of similar to the lightweight gold necklace that
you wear, that's not going to cause a fatal injury
(47:28):
toward an MRI machine. But I think the question all
of us will have in the audience tonight is why
didn't the tech just turn off the MRI instantly? That
is a big question. And I imagine that there was
some you know, what's the word hustle involved, right, I mean,
(47:48):
I can't imagine that there wouldn't be, but who knows.
There's a lot of reasons that might be the case.
I would also imagine or wonder why if not, that
there wasn't some sort of failsafe mechanism, you know, given,
But I guess I don't fully understand how that would
be implemented. Maybe it does require a manual shut off
because according to the US Food and Drug Administration this
(48:11):
is from the BBC, MRI machines have magnetic fields that
will attract magnetic objects of all sizes than when you
are going in for one of these things. The texts
and the personnel of the hospital have to be very
FASTIDI is making sure that you don't have any keys,
mobile phones, oxygen tanks for example, things like that that
could cause damage to the equipment or severe injury to
(48:35):
the patient or medical personnel, because this essentially could weaponize
these type of objects, turning them into projectiles. In two
thousand and one, a six year old boy did pass
away from a fractured skull at a New York City
medical center while undergoing an MRI after its magnetic force
propelled an oxygen tank across the room. So we're talking
(48:59):
magnedo level powers, you know, weaponizing all metal things in
the area. So something to follow, interesting to see, Interested
to see if there will be any follow up litigation
here and how that'll play out.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, and it goes to folks. It goes to the
idea of Pharaoh magnetism. So in our earlier example, nol
with with your chain, the metals that are commonly used
to make jewelry, like silver, platinum, gold, those are not
feroh magnetic.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
We're talking about particles right, largely right right.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Steel, scissors, oxygen tanks.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Alloys, things that have a mix of these types of metals.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Even tools, also bike chains. We would love to hear
from you folks, friends and neighbors about why the machine
was not instantly turned off. Is there no kills? Which
is there no? As Noel mentioned built in safety safety mechanism.
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But it's a tragedy all the way round.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
For sure the US. So there's another piece from ABC
out of Australia. I believe this is that ABC. Now
this is something. This is a different ABC. It's an
Australian news agency, not the American broadcast company. They have
a piece about this case where they talk about the
risks of an MRI scan. The risks personally to an
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individual in terms of the impact of the technology on
a body are really really low. It's not the same
as ionizing radiation that is used in X rays. It's
why this is a preferred mechanism for scanning folks or
even CT imaging. However, it does replace that with a
very very strong magnetic field, a field that can of
(50:53):
course extend well beyond the machine itself that can exert
forces on objects made of iron. To your point, been
some steels and other magnetizable objects. So it's important that
patients notify their doctors if they have any implants for example,
that could be problematic.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, one hundred percent, similar to pacemakers and microwaves.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Correct, And this news agency ABC dot AU does report
a stat from the FDA again who we mentioned earlier
that about three hundred adverse events reports for MRI scanners
and coils each year from manufacturers, distributors and patients are
submitted to the FDA. And then, of course we mentioned
(51:39):
that tragic case of a six year old who had
his skull fractured by a very similar type of incident
where a magnetic force propelled this oxygen tank.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Noel, have you ever had an MRI.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
I have not. I think the claustrophobic nature of it
would would really stress me out. Have you been.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yes? Actually I kind of dug it.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Doesn't it make a nice humming drone kind of sound
as well?
Speaker 3 (52:12):
You know, claustrophobia aside. I know that's not everybody's jam.
It was kind of like a sensory deprivation take For me.
It was one of the few times where I didn't
have to constantly check on emails, so that alone made
it kind of a cool experience.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yes, sir, I can totally see that and you're reminding
me then that I need to have one of those
experiences myself, because I have been meaning to do a
float tank situation and we have places here in the
Atland area to do that. So thanks for the reminder.
I'm going to put that to my list of new
experiences to experience. If you are looking for a new
experience to experience in the culinary fast food realm and
(52:57):
you haven't found yourself on the West Coast or Texas,
you might be in for a treat if you were
ever intrigued by the idea of In and Out Burger
from watching like The Big Lebowski or any other kind
of California lore. The good news here is that In
and Out the company that is untill now been exclusively
(53:21):
located their chain restaurants that make really delicious burgers. Their
fries are quite divisive, as we talked about with Dylan
off air. They're only located in the Pacific regions of
the US, and I think some in Texas as well. No,
definitely some in Texas, but mainly it's a California company.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
That's correct. It's due to their supply chain philosophy.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
Which is a good thing. Frankly, I mean, it does
make for a fresher burger. They don't ship frozen beef.
That is a big part of it. So they insist
that their supply warehouses and facilities be within driving distance
of their restaurants. This that's not going to change, But
what will change is the potential for new in and
(54:05):
out franchises in the on the East Coast. Because the
billionaire owner and president and heir to the originators of
the California based burger chain in an out Burger has
announced their company is well. It's a little bit confusing
because initially on a podcast that she was on, she
(54:27):
made it sound like they were pulling up routes, pulling
up rude Vegas from California, which is where they got
their start, of course, and moving to Tennessee, moving their
corporate headquarters. That was the original reporting. However, that is
not the case. They are not picking up and completely
relocating all of their restaurants and headquarters and enfranchising offices,
(54:51):
et cetera to the East Coast. They are just expanding,
and I think that's good news for a lot of
burger fans out there because it really is, as John
Goodman would say, a tasty burger.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah. Yeah, Actually, we are on record being fans of
in and Out burgers. If okay, if the fries are controversial,
we can all agree with respect that Dylan that the
burgers slap.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
We also had animal style.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, animal style is nice. The secret menu thing might
be a fun pop culture episode for us to do
on stuff they don't want you to know in the future.
We also need to hear your favorite local fast food
sleeper hits. This is very much again.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Can we talk about the ones you mentioning Ben Air ones?
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yes, so. Examples would be Pals. Pals is a legendary
fast food place in h in the part of the
world where Dylan and I have roots. Their fries are amazing.
They made some Dylan, how would we say it our
style of fry. We're talking cartoonishly specific aesthetic choices.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
A crinkled cut fry. We're talking to curly. I gotta
yeah for this.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Matt's back, Hey, Matt, oh.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Boy, Hey, sorry about that, guys. Cabin Wi Fi is
a tricky one. What we made it?
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, we did. So we're talking about the aesthetics of
regional fast food sleeper hits, referencing Pals of course, out
in East Tennessee. The aesthetic of the place is cartoonishly specific.
I'm being diplomatic. We're talking about a big, big fiberglass
(56:43):
anthology of sculptures in every pals location you run to us.
Speaker 4 (56:48):
I'm looking up some images now, yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
They're great and no all to your question regarding the fries,
we're looking at more a thin shoe string heavily seasoned fry's.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
It's a good I love a seasoned fry, and they
refer to them in the Pal's parlance. Let's talk about
sudden service in a minute too. By the way, as
frenchy fries the frenchy fries. What is this sudden service
methos philosophy? Sounds aggressive, right? You mentioned that previously a
(57:21):
fair too.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Uh, Pal's sudden service is this idea? You know what?
It's marketing, I'll say it. It's marketing. It means that
you it's always a drive through place, like a checker's. Maybe.
So it means that you don't have to wait in
the drive through line that long, you don't have to
(57:42):
pull over.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Just suddenly your service.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
Yeah, just like oh I want a burger is granted. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Did you see they also have a thought I was
about to make today.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
And they have something called a sauce burger. It's great.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
It slaps.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
It's a top all beef patty with Pal's famous sauce
ketchup based mildly spicy.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Did you know? Okay, I don't want to get political here,
but I was watching an interview with the former president
Barack Obama and he said, with a full straight face.
He sounded very serious. He said that he doesn't believe
anybody over the age of eight should he catch up?
Speaker 4 (58:30):
Yeah, that's the Chicago thing too. I mean, like, should
catch up on a dog in Chicago is for boten
mustard only.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, it was. Actually I was talking with good friend
of the show, chef Ben about this, and you guys know, Ben,
I hope it's okay if I say this. Our chef
has some experience in the Chicago area.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
We had a land area.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, we had a pretty illuminating conversation about the hot
dog high hierarchy. We also, to your earlier question, we
mentioned Buddy's Barbecue out there in Tennessee. I just feel
like America is great for this. There are so many weird, regional,
(59:15):
amazing chains and franchises.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
I do think it's funny too, how Like, you know,
on the East Coast it's called what is it Parties?
On the West coast it's Carl's Junior.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
Right, Yeah, that's a confusing one. That's a conspiracy as well, Matt.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
We were so wait, why are we talking about all
of this stuff?
Speaker 4 (59:37):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (59:38):
What's happened?
Speaker 3 (59:38):
So much happened while you were while you were a
hunting with the WiFi. Sorry, we know you were playing
Mario Kart.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
No dude, but my cousin came up here and got
like thirteen million on this Simpsons pinball machine and I
was like, I, guys, I know you're you're doing really good,
but I think the WiFi just came on and he's like,
oh okay, and he turned it off reluctantly. It was
like crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
And the good news is we're about to wrap so
you can get back to it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yeah, we would, uh, we have pitched each other an
episode idea pop culture conspiracy episode on Oh dang it, No,
we nailed it just a few minutes ago. What was
our pop Oh secret menus, secret menu.
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Your menus? Yeah, and talking just in general, Matt, to
answer your question about how In and Out Burger is
expanding to the Northeast with a new, uh huge corporate
office in Tennessee. I don't think I got into exactly
where it is going to be near Nashville. And also
(01:00:44):
the CEO is moving there with her family, and that
was a big part of or a source of some
of the hubbub online with folks accusing her of abandoning
her root. She's born and raised in northern California, and
obviously In and Out has been a California staple for generations.
So she did come back in and clarify after some
of these out of context things taken from this podcast
(01:01:07):
interview that she did that they are not relocating, they
are not pulling up their roots in California. They're simply expanding,
which makes a whole lot of sense. She did make
some comments about how she wants her associates to be
able to own homes, and In and Out does, you know,
have a reputation for treating their associates very well, you know,
(01:01:29):
with fair pay and benefits and things like that. And
so she did make some somewhat negative comments about the
California economy, about how difficult it is to own a
home there. So she wants to give, you know, folks
who are working for the company the opportunity to move
(01:01:49):
up that American dream letter, which I can respect. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
We heard good things I remember about what's the chicken
chain at the Workaholics guys quadruple handedly got from California
raising Caines. Yeah, we've heard good things about you know,
other companies that have moved their way east who tend
to have those kinds of practices where you're actually gonna
(01:02:15):
give your employees a livable wage. Pretty dopey.
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Great IDEA quick trip is another example. Going back to
our gas station truck stop episodes and discourse, I am
so excited you guys to hear about these regional sleeper
hit restaurants and fast food places. Also, I want to
take a moment for all our fellow Tennesseeans and shout
(01:02:40):
out my brother Dylan for mentioning doctor Enough. It's the
soda you will love that you've never heard about. Look
it up. It's spelled e ed uf on purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Whoa like, it's the def beer of enough doctor soda.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, step aside, sheer wine. You've had your time in
the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Well, guys, did you already talk about the MRI.
Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Yeah, Matt, we'll talk a little bit off air, but
we did kind of get into this idea of the
precedent being said and if there may or may not
be a lawsuit coming down the pike, and also how
this is a real life example of something that happened
in a recent horror movie and it is a sad story,
but it is something that I think is definitely captures
the imagination. It is possible, this is something that people
should be aware of and be very careful. And I'm
(01:03:28):
curious as to whether the hospital will be held liable.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
That's a question where Also, Matt, another thing we've got
to talk about off air, this AI pricing for airlines,
the dynamic pricing that Delta is rolling out. I didn't
mention this earlier, but I see the shadow of data
aggregation and perhaps vallunteer.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Delta's doing.
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Delta's doing it. Bro. Yeah, and with that, folks, we
are off to adventures. We want to know your opinion
of dynamic pricing and how much of a problem or
opportunity you see with these companies gathering so much information
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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Most importantly, you argue you are here. That makes this
the stuff they don't want you to know. It's time
for some news and spoiler, friends and neighbors. This news
is going to be strange. If you are tuning in
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to our program the evening it publishes. Let us welcome
you to July twenty eighth, twenty five. Guys. I don't
know about you. I feel like it's important for us
to say the date because we're creating time capsules. Maybe
we'll look back in a few years and think, Wow,
(01:15):
that was really prescient. Or maybe we'll look back in
a few years and think, oh, Epstein got away with it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think we're gonna think that.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Uh No, matter what.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We're thinking it now.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, a lot of people got away with a lot
of things.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
But like got away. How did he get away with it?
I guess he nobody had to learn the truth really,
the extent of what was going on, I would say.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, And I guess if we're waxing philosophical here, mortality
means that everybody gets away at some point. Oh boy, uh,
weird energy. Right. One thing we want to mention at
the top is our friends at Microsoft have spent one
one point seven billion dollars on poop burial.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm sexplain, I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, so they've got a partnership with a company called
Vaulted Deep, which is a carbon removal company, and their
ideas they're going to remove four point nine million metric
tons of carbon emissions over the next twelve years, so
decade and two years.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Is this a story I saw about?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Is Microsoft?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You said, am I Microsoft investing a bunch of money
to help places that don't have any kind of sewer
access or like traditional septic access. So it's like a
new version of that or is that is that the
same story?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah? Yeah, you nailed it. Vaulted Deep collects manure, sewage,
and agricultural byproducts. How's that for euphemism? These things would
normally block up water ways, or they would rot in landfills.
So this company makes them into like an in and
out kind of milkshake, viscous substance, and then they bury
(03:11):
it about five thousand feet underground.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's pretty it's pretty specific. Yeah, So shout out to Microsoft,
Shout out to burying your poop. We've got a lot
more stuff to get to. We're going to talk about
some crime, We're going to explore some just desserts abroad.
We're going to have a parable about MRIs, we might
(03:40):
talk about monks a little bit. But before we do
any of that, we've got a We've got a lot
of sports fans in the audience, guys, We've got a
lot of friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realists who are
perhaps fans of sports memorabilia. So what say we pause
for word from our sponsors and then deliver the mail
(04:05):
I think we must.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And we've returned. I can't stop thinking about burying a
whole bunch of crap five thousand feet below the surface.
And it feels like some kind of long game to
create geo thermal power. If you can put mass quantities
of you know, heated, disgusting poo poos down that far
(04:33):
and then somehow it interacts with the mantle, and then
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, I've really been doing the new Donkey Kong game,
wherein you smash your way through the Earth's crust or
the planet's crust in order to dig up veins of gold.
I'm just imagining now, Donkey, poor Donkey Kong encountering a vein.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Of poo pooh. We also Lord of the Rings. We
delved too Deep, too Deep? Microsoft, Yes, the original Balrog
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, guys, speaking of mass quantities of let's talk about
something that just came to light weirdly enough. If you
are a sports fan, perhaps a sports memorabilia fan, you
may have already known about this for a long time.
But for the rest of us, no offense, guys, or
you tell me if I'm wrong here, But I would
(05:28):
say the four of us are not the biggest sports
memorabilia collectors, at least it's not a pastime of mine.
We have a few things that my dad has passed down,
some Chipper Jones stuff, some Atlanta Braves signed stuff, But
I don't have anything that's you know, vastly expensive or
like a real collector's item. But do you guys have
(05:49):
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I have a couple of things, yeah, records, just like
fun records. But they were to your point, they were
gifted to me. I did not actively seek these things
or these artifacts out exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's not an active hobby for any of us. But
for people who are active in that hobby, they're always
on the lookout for bogus items, stuff that looks legit
but probably isn't. What are we talking about. We're talking
about basketball, jerseys, baseballs, literally anything that is sports related,
(06:28):
especially like a specific item with like a number associated
with a particular player.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
A jersey, perhaps, some sort of like you know, game
warn item, maybe rings, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Those are really big assigned artifact of some sort, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And this basic concept of having a human being sign
with their hand and a pen a piece of memorabilia
and then you getting that thing puts you one step away,
less than one step away, one pen away from that
human being that you, perhaps I was gonna say, idolize
a bit, or at least you have a great reverence
(07:05):
for You admire that person a lot, right, You appreciate
their whatever it is that they have, and do you
appreciate it a lot? This is cool.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's a reliquary. Yes, it's similar to it's similar to
religious adoration of saints. Yes, if we're being honest, because sport,
oh god, sport whatever, keep it at because sports become
a matter of ideology and religion and articles of faith.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, I remember the like nineteen ninety two
braves lineup, and I thought of those guys like they
were heroes or you know, monster like not real. They're
too big to be actual human beings in my mind, right,
I get that thing. Well, when you feel that way,
when you're interested in getting stuff like that, you really
want to make sure that you're getting the real deal,
(07:54):
because if you're not, you could be paying three hundred dollars,
five hundred dollars, several thousand dollars to get one of
these things that theoretically is the real signature the real
human did it?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You get it?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You can put it on your wall, you can put
it on a mantle, and you feel good about it.
You could talk with your friends about it. That's the
real thing. That is a Jordan pair of tennis shoes.
I don't know Jan Chipper Jones.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's the mit that Chipper Jones was using in the
nineteen nineties at the brief Stadium.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Donnie Freeman's Dirty Gym sock.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
My dad and I were just talking about it. I
have an actual Chipper Jones home run ball, like it's
the real thing. He actually signed it. We've got it.
It's in my parents' house.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's cool, Matt. I do imagine they're at professional authenticatures
of these tap of items and appraisers, but maybe those
two things aren't the same, or there's a crossover. I'm curious. Oh,
there are.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
There are big companies that their entire job, their entire
business is authenticating this kind of thing and making sure
for you, as a person buying it, you're getting the
real thing. And they create things like every other company
does a specific logo, specific colors on that logo, specific packaging,
all that kind of stuff to make sure you're aware
(09:07):
you're getting a real thing. They also, interestingly enough, especially
for like cards and for other specific things, if you're
getting it framed, there will be a hologram, a very specific,
difficult to recreate hologram that goes on these products, and
that is one of those things kind of like the
weird stuff that's on the new dollar bills here in the.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
US or the new passports.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, very I would say, very difficult to exactly replicate.
There are a lot of people out there who have
tried to recreate things like this, or to at least
make a facsimile. That is, you could trick your eye
or something right.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Not associated with stuff they don't want you to.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Do, definitely, but there are a lot of people that
have attempted to do this right.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The news that broke pretty recently for all of us
who are not in the cl acts industry is that
a huge player in that industry, not one of the
major corporations, but a pretty dang big website that made
a lot of moves out there called mister man Cave
came under fire and under FBI investigation, and the individual
(10:19):
at the helm of this thing called mister man Cave
took to Facebook when the FBI was raiding his warehouses
and the facilities where he was running his business, and
he essentially created a manifesto you guys, or it's being
called a manifesto, it's really just a big FU to everybody,
(10:41):
Like to everybody mostly people who buy sports memorabilia and
the sports memorabilia industry altogether. But he came out and
he made some statements about how much money he's made
through mister man Cave over the years, many items he sold,
(11:02):
and that every single one of these I think around
four million items that he's sold has been a fake,
a forgery, a fraud. And we are talking forgeries of
those holograms that are difficult to recreate. We are talking
like eighty thousand copies of like an athlete that just
(11:25):
passed away, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Baseball card, or on some sort of like lanyard, what
kind of hologram.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
On all kinds of different products. It's a specific hologram
for some of these other larger companies that are supposed
to verify the authenticity of things. And he's mass manufacturing
them and putting out millions of items into the ecosystem
of other people who are then, you know, buying and
selling and trading all of these things, and the values
(11:52):
of them are all going up. But then he just
he puts this poison pill out on Facebook that says, hey,
guess what most of that stuff you're dealing with right now,
all that stuff you think is so valuable.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I made it and it's fake.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Wow, well he's not saving it for the swim back.
I think he's speaking maybe in past tense.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's you know, yes. So the way it was written,
it was definitely one of those things that is a
confession of sorts. And it's happening as the FBI is
actively looking through all his stuff and they're figuring out
all of these things, and then they found a body
at one of the places of business with a self
(12:34):
inflicted gunshot wound, and it was in fact Brett Lemieux,
the man who wrote that post, the man who was
running this whole thing that was, you know, a huge
part of this industry. So really weird, tragic, kind of scary.
I don't I don't even know how to describe this
strange news story because it it's a thing that, again,
(12:57):
a lot of people already knew that this was happening,
a lot of people even knew specifically that Lemieux had
this stuff going on, because you can find new stories
all the way back from twenty thirteen where other companies
that Lemieux was running in this same industry were being
accused of things like not sending out orders that come
in for you know, hundreds of dollars, not giving out
(13:19):
gift certificates or not redeeming gift certificates that were bought
through the websites, putting out fake merchandise, all that kind
of stuff. There are all these allegations that go back
on him for a long time, and yet still mister
man Cave was able to proliferate all kinds of stuff. Well,
it's just weird, guys, because it makes me think about
(13:40):
the value of things. You know, how we put value
on stuff. We've talked about that many times on the
show in different ways, and this is one of those
things that just makes you realize it's our belief, all
of it. We say that over and over again. Value
is a belief.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Articles are paid quick question here, and I think a
lot of us listening tonight are going to have the
same question, Matt, Do we have any do we have
any information on the sophistication or the level of forgery here,
because it sounds like, okay, there's a grifter. These are
(14:20):
counterfeit goods. But they must have been They must have
had for similitude, right, They must have looked very legit
if this grift was able to continue for as long
as it did. It kind of reminds me of the
North Korean counterfeit one hundred US dollars.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
These are high end items collectors, right, Yeah, that's a
great like, that's a question.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What was the level of the con.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The level of the con was was very sophisticated, flawless.
Let's see, here's a state from Lemieux. This comes from
Sports Collector's Digest, written by Greg Bates on July sixteenth.
You can look it up. The title is breaking news
sports memorabilia dealer found dead after admitting to three hundred
(15:13):
and fifty million dollar fraud and forgery scheme. If you
go down in the article, you'll see it's a snippet
from the Facebook post that lem You made and it states, quote,
it was a thrill having every athlete and every sport
from every authentication company at your fingertips to produce the
signature flawless, authenticate it with a flawless bootleg hologram, and
(15:35):
then sell it for half of what the company does
buy the thousands. That's all I spent my time in
life on what was the next item to do? The
next name, next flawless signature. I'm gonna keep going. This
is intense. Yeah, I was addicted. It was a rush.
I wanted out, but the money was too good. I
can make one hundred thousand dollars in a week if
(15:56):
I wanted to the fact that not one dealer that
knew what we were doing to the industry or when I
took their exclusive, no one ever picked up a phone
to confront me. That baffled me. I told multiple dealers,
I will ruin you and you're exclusive. They knew better.
And he's again, like I said at the beginning, he's
(16:17):
kind of a big fu to everybody. But in a
weird way. What he's saying here, if we take it
at face value, he's saying that everybody kind of knew
there's a bunch of fakes out there and not.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
All this.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Well, because if they're good enough and there's enough of
it being sold, what happens when you make a sale. Potentially,
if you make enough sale, the price of that product
or that good or that service goes up because now
more people want it, Oh, well, we can charge more.
So the industry knew that with this guy, this individual
in this company flooding the market with stuff. With expensive stuff,
(16:54):
everybody else's prices get to go higher and higher.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And hire doesn't that make prices go down?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, uh, theoretically, but it's available. Does that make sense?
Like so with collectibles, it's a it's a it's ly is. Yeah,
the invatory is pretty low, right, the number of actual
signed jerseys that you can get. But if now there's
more of them and you can still charge the same
price for them, and you've you're only talking about you know,
(17:22):
maybe thousands of people on the planet or tens of
thousands of people that can afford it, if I yea,
if all of them get what they want, right, then
it goes.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Up finite supply infinite demand theoretically such that such that
if we have I was going to see, we have
a cottage industry of middlemen, right or middle folk, And
if everybody is getting a little bit of a vigoroush
(17:52):
then no one really wants the game to end. Yes, right,
So continuing on this analogy, looks like our guy had
a seventh inning stretch and just decided to, uh, that's baseball,
take the grift with him when he left. So do
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we go for sure, like Matt, how how much detail
do we have about the manner of death or the
context leading up to Brett Lemeu's exposing of this conspiracy,
because it's very much a conspiracy at this point.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, yeah, all I know is from the reporting here.
USA Today wrote a piece. A lot of places have
written pieces about this. I'm pulling mostly from USA Today,
Sports Collectors, Digest, and CBS. But you know, all I've
seen officially is that early on a body was discovered
during the FBI investigation, you know, actually going through warehouses
(18:55):
and buildings and stuff, and they found a body that
had a self inflicted gunshot wound. That was the reporting
that came out. Well, then it was reported that it
was in fact Brett Lemieux, and that's all I've really got.
Do you have anything new?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, this is strange news to me. I don't know
about you, NOL, but I do think we have some
digging to do because one thing that always gets us
when we're talking about this level of counterfeiting and forgery,
Obviously there's a lot of self interest involved, so it
(19:29):
must have been an open secret to at least some people.
But I always have to think about the people who
are being impersonated, right, like to your point, the Chipper
Jones who says I didn't sign that, or God knows,
Chipper must have signed a lot of stuff in his time,
(19:51):
or to Nol's point, you know how many things has
Michael Jordan signed? Have any of the athletes being impersonated
spoken up about this? I think that would be interesting
to learn.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I haven't seen that. I saw a quote in
here from a guy named Steve Grad that was in
the USA Today article I believe, yes, that was written
July eighteenth, man found deada mid investigation for selling counterfeit
sports memorabilia. If you look down at the bottom of
that one, we'll see that this guy is actually saying
something counter to what I was talking about. And maybe
(20:24):
I was just completely wrong, or maybe it's just a
collection of different things of how this stuff affects an industry.
But Steve Grad says that people have known about this guy,
they've known his work, they know what he's been up to.
He's been at it for years and years. He's driven
down the price of things. So they're saying he's or
Steve is saying he's driven down the price of things.
You know, look at a Tom Brady autograph and Tom
(20:46):
Brady's value is affected drastically by this individual. Perhaps to
that point you were saying, Noel like flooding the market
is actually bringing the prices down, but it's way more available.
So then now I'm fits the South theoretically, I know,
I'm a little more confused, and now wrap my head
(21:06):
around this a little more same y'all.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Remember when O. J. Simpson got in trouble for robbing
his own memorabilia. That was kind of what ultimately like
brought him down after all of the murder trial stuff.
Like I think he actually, yeah, he like busted into
a hotel room and like held up, you know, a
bunch of memorabilia folks who had were in possession of
(21:31):
a lot of his personal memorabilia. I just think it's
the idea of memorabilia as currency is fascinating to me.
I think I mentioned this too on a previous conversation
about stuff like this, but not to blow anybody's spot up.
But I know a guy who knows a guy who
has made a pretty good buck with a racket selling
counterfeit Donald Trump signature. Apparently there's a market for that.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Wow, there's a market for everything. All you have to
do is create that market. Everybody, please check out our episode.
I can't remember when this came out, but check out
our episode on serial killer memorabilia. That that is I
think a thoroughly American pursuit. There's this deification of notoriety
(22:23):
or celebrity.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, it's also fascinating that how Nazi memorabilia is straight
up illegal, you know, in good in Germany.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Absolutely, But I mean there's a market for that too.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, you're right. It makes us think of a larger
context here, because what we're seeing is ethics aside a
successful conspiracy, Right, We're seeing successful well every con is
(22:56):
a conspiracy, so yeah, right, So we're seeing someone who
for a time didn't just succeed in lying to people
and grifted them, but also succeeded in accumulating support within that,
(23:17):
As you said, Matt, ecosystem, which means logically, you guys,
stop me if I'm going too far here, this logically
implies that there must be other similar grifts occurring in
the world of sports memorabilia.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I think it's widespreads Like,
I'm nervous about everything, especially when you look at buying
things online. Now, and in different stores, and the stuff
that's available in Amazon officially, and like everybody's cool with it,
but wait, what is that? Actually it's creeping me out.
But hey, I know we got to take a break
here here awhere from our sponsors, but we will be
(23:59):
right back with even more strange.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
News who and we have returned. H It's no secret, folks,
Dylan and Nol and Matt and yours truly are often
on the road. We have eternal adventures on the horizon,
(24:24):
which means that we take trains and cars and planes.
And I think we all saw the news recently, troubly
bit of aviation conspiracy. Uh, Nol, Matt, Dylan, did you
guys hear about Delta's new pricing plan.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I saw a headline that included to real problematic letters,
but I didn't really dig much deeper. So I'm curious
to hear. I know this is something that's being done
with pricing, you know, like by a ticketmaster for example,
and like you know, ways of doing these kind of
dynamic pricing. And we also already know that airline pricing
is such a black box, so I'm curious as to
(25:06):
how this makes it worse and blacker.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Of a box. Yeah, dynamic pricing. You nailed it, dude.
Delta Airlines is first to the post in a public
announcement regarding AI pricing. So the idea is that currently
this airline, famous airline based here in the metropolis of Atlanta, Georgia,
(25:32):
wants twenty percent of all the flights they sell to
be priced using artificial intelligence. The two problematic letters that
they'll just mentioned. They previously did a soft rollout with this.
The concept is that if you are, say a frequent flyer,
(25:57):
like a lot of us in the audience tonight, you
will get a different price than you would if you were,
say a one time or non frequent flyer. So, for instance,
if Dylan Tennessee pal Fagan is taking a round trip
ticket to Bhutan, Nepal, whatever, Uh, that will be a
(26:22):
different price than it would be if Dylan was saying,
I'm going to take a one way ticket to Dylan,
what's a country you want to go to? Let's say, uh, Thailand, Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That that comes up in a minute.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Right guice guice foreshadowy. So this means that if if
you are booking a flight to Thailand via Delta, a
lot of information about your previous interactions with this airline
will come into play when they give you that black
(27:02):
box price. So if Dylan is going on a round
trip to Thailand and then back to the States, that
price is going to be goosed a little bit. Since
we've been using the word goost, which I quite love. Really, Yeah,
is on, and let's talk a little bit about this
(27:25):
before we before we move on. I just think you
absolutely nailed it with the idea of things being a
black box. Now full disclosure, folks, Matt Nol and Dylan
and I have often had to dive into research for
(27:47):
booking a flight, you know what I mean. I remember
Noel specifically when you and I would be looking at
different airlines and we both knew that we had to
be somewhere by like Thursday.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, when the company is
paying for stuff, we do try to be thoughtful about that,
and of course when we're paying for it, we try
to be thoughtful. We just tend to try to be thoughtful,
and you typically do get goosed when you're buying too
close to the takeoff time.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Mm hmm. Yeah. So the concept here is that Delta
will have a pricing algorithm that they describe as a
super analyst, and it will constantly, continually calculate what price
point it takes for a passenger to book a seat,
(28:37):
or essentially, like put bluntly and undiplomatically, they're going to
figure out the maximum amount of money you will pay
for a trip. The company itself is portrayed this as
a matter of efficiency, a matter of convenience. Yet to
(28:59):
say that at part allowed for all our fellow travelers.
The concern is that this will be a kind of discrimination,
a new kind of discrimination that isn't really addressed in
the current laws of the United States.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
So how okay, how is it targeting folks in a
discriminatory fashion?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Right? Right? It really depends on the vocabulary of information
or data that exist right in this system. So if we,
for instance, know that Matt Frederick is a guy who
always travels to meandmar in September, then will that price
(29:50):
for that known trip, Will it be higher? Will it
be lower? Because they want to keep them? I don't
you know. It's difficult because this is a precedent. The
discrimination is going to be financial socioeconomic discrimination, not necessarily
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race creed ideology anything like that. These are very dangerous times.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I agree. I guess my counterpoint is that isn't it
already to a degree, Like you know, even being able
to fly Delta is financially discriminatory because it is inherently
more expensive than like budget airlines, and they do already
(30:36):
have access to your data if you're a frequent flyer
and booking directly through Delta and likely through other means
because it's ultimately at the end of the day going
to end up with Delta in terms of you know,
ticketing you so, aren't they already doing stuff like this?
And do we really have any transparency into the ticket
prices as it is? Are there any laws that require that?
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Is this not inevitable?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Those are great questions and I like the way you're
framing them, because we have to be honest. Travel aviation
especially is a commodity. It is not a human right,
similar to water or shelter food.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
They depending on who you ask.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
We're on the same page. No, everybody deserves certain things.
We know that there are there are opportunities for shenanigans here,
and the big concern is that aviation companies in general,
airlines will leverage this stuff not to be more efficient,
(31:48):
not necessarily to help their passengers, but instead to squeeze
as much financial blood from the stone as possible. If
we go to UH, folks like Sam Hollander, who's a
co founder at Autopilot, we'll see this put in pretty
simple terms. Sam says, quote, if Delta's AI knows you
(32:12):
consistently book premium cabins and expense through corporate accounts, why
would it not test higher price points. This algorithm will
identify customers with lower price sensitivity and adjust accordingly. Right, Okay,
So I.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Wait at basically saying like, if you can afford it,
they're going to get it out of you. Yes, that's
what lower price sensitivity means. Like, I don't really care.
I'm willing to throw down the extra. It doesn't mean
all that much to me.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right, I am Jack's corporate expense account. There you go
kind of thing. Yeah, this is UH, this is something
that we'd love to hear more about, folks. We know
this is not just going to be limited to one usline.
This will probably roll out throughout the globe, and we
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want to hear your take on this. We hope you
travel safely. We hope that you are very careful with
where you decide to go and how you decide to
get there, which means it's time for a segue. All right,
We've got to give you a breaking news story. Everybody
(33:27):
who has lived in the United States at some point
has thought should I live somewhere else? Especially in these
our current divisive times. A lot of our fellow US
residents have said, maybe there's a better place for me.
(33:49):
And this is the best way to introduce Derek Huffman,
a forty six year old man who moved to Russia
with his wife and his fortune children in search of
what he saw as traditional values to escape wokeism. UH
to do this, and Russia does have some programs we
(34:11):
discussed previously. They want people to immigrate there. UH. To
do this, Derek had to sign up for the Russian
military so that he could gain citizenship for himself, his spouse,
and his kids. Before we go on, do you want
(34:33):
to sign up for this program?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I'm listening.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You'll have my interest, now you have my attention or whatever.
However that so this guy, Derek Kuffman, he felt that
the Western world, the US in particular, was in doctrinating
(35:01):
the public with what he calls LGBT propaganda. So he
thought the world in which he lived was getting too woke.
He said that he had been just isolated and discriminated
against because his ideology was being suppressed, and so he
(35:26):
wrote to He learned about the Russian citizenship offers, and
he moved to Moscow from Texas. He joined the military,
and he got a guarantee in writing that he would
not be assigned to a combat position. Spoiler alert. He
(35:46):
was immediately put into a shake and bake program of
combat training. He was deployed to the front line.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Okay, Ben, this is ringing a bell now. We talked
about this program a while back.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, the ex pat sort of what's the word not clemency,
But I don't know a path to that given some
of the issues at play here in this country. Though.
Russia maybe is not the place that I would necessarily
want to hang my hat if I were trying to
escape this particular oppressive regime, you know what I mean.
It's sort of like out of the frying pan into
(36:21):
the fire kind of, if you ask me, literally, in
this guy's situation, very much into the fire.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah. Yeah, he got rushed into combat training immediately, and
it only got two weeks of training. His wife, Dianna Huffman,
said that her husband feels like he is being thrown
to the wolves and he is having to quote lean
on faith. This is terrible. I was talking with some
(36:49):
of our colleagues while I was on the road about
this story in particular, and the main thing we have
to remember is that those four, those four American born
children did not have the ability to consent. They're stuck
in a suburb of Russia right now with no clear
(37:11):
exit plan. Not great, not ideal. It's what we call
a non ideal situation. Derek Huffman is I think now
an icon. It's an example for the class about Russia's
visa program. The visa program. You'll love this. It's called
(37:35):
Shared Values, and the idea is it will allow foreigners,
non Russians, who are dissatisfied with their government for any reason,
to seek Russian residency so long as they agree with
the Kremlin's moral and spiritual principles. We hate the gays too,
(37:56):
something like that. I mean, honestly, it's culture worst up
is Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I can't say I have too much empathy for the
guy in this particular situation. And we know we try
to exercise empathy even with folks that we don't agree with.
But kind of had it come in a little bit.
I'm sorry I had you know I do have empathy
for Ben as I know you do, as well as
you mentioned as the kids, because they have no agency
in any of this.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right, Yeah, it's some real fa f o stuff. That
is that like it's f around and find sorry, I
got you, you got it because we know that. Look,
we know that most people are not happy with their governments.
Just statistically that is true. But I love your frying
(38:48):
pan into the fire analogy.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Into the line of fire. I mean, yeah, find a
point on it.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
But Jesus, yes, from the frying pan to the front lines, right,
this guy is this guy is not a unique case.
We are going to see a lot of international movement
or attempts of individuals and families to relocate across the globe.
(39:15):
And please, please, please, folks, let this be a parable,
Let this be a moral Make sure you know what
you are getting into. Check research as much as you can,
and if you are planning to live in a land
that is new to you, I'm just going to say it,
(39:38):
visit first treat it as though you would do the
same thing you would do if you were moving to
a different town in the same country. Yes, visit little weekend.
You know what I mean? You love Chicago? Will go
spend a weekend in Chicago during winter?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Try some Lord? Make sure? Oh my god, don't really don't.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Do you think anybody really likes Milord?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
People say they do. My friend THEO says he does.
He bought me a bottle of it as sort of
a housewarming gift, and I don't drink that kind of
stuff anymore at all. But even when I did, that
was I would have had to be real many sheets
to the wind before I would take a nip off
of that bottle. How on earth anyone curious? It doesn't
know what we probably talked about him. The Lord is
(40:25):
a very Chicago centric liqueur or. I don't know if
you'd even call it that. That tastes the way vomit smells.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, it's like have you ever witnessed a war crime
and wish it had had to taste Milord? Lord is
just straight not great. Give us your hot takes. I
think it's just nostalgia or team spirit for Chicago conspiracy
at iHeartRadio dot com. Please defend malort to us. Dylan
(40:56):
Tennessee Pall Fagan, shout out to you and your brother
in law. Dylan says, My brother in law says he
loves my Lord right like I said.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
THEO says it as well.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I love THEO.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
He also is a bit of edge. Lord is the
wrong words. He unironically likes a lot of terrible stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
You know. I'm friends with the.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well there you go, and then you
know what I'm talking about. He is also my short
short spirit animal spirit guide. Yeah. I look up to
him in many ways, and I love the man, and
I think nothing but the world of him. But yeah,
I don't know. I don't know if one can truly
like my Lord.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, tell us your thoughts. Folks, Please describe the taste
of alert as you see it. Tell us if you
are a fan. We don't mean to cast aspersion on.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Anybody's no yucks of yums.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
We don't know. Yu. Fine, I'm being so diplomatic, and yeah,
thank you for talking me back from the edge. We
don't have time to get to the Moldovan oligarch who
just got detained in Greece. I don't know how much
news that will make in the West, but he got
away with something like a billion dollars US. So we
(42:16):
are going to pause for a word from our sponsors.
We're gonna go in and out of Metallic Chain's MRIs
and of course Monks.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
And we have returned, sadly no longer joined by our compatriot,
Matthew Frederick, who is having a lovely cabin get away
weekend with his family and apparently the internet the bed,
so he had to drop off. But I hope he's
playing some lovely Mario Kart arcade in the incredible game
room that this place is furnished with, so all the
(42:54):
love there to Matthew and his family. We are going
to start off. I'm going to start off with a
mild spoiler really quickly for a movie that's that's kind
of definitely within spoiler territory in terms of the statute limitation.
It is file Destination Bloodlines, which I thought was quite
a lot of fun, quite a romp, very funny, very gory, exciting.
(43:17):
I do recommend folks check it out. This is a
real life final destination kind of story. One of the
set pieces in the film involves an MRI machine. I'm
just going to leave it at that without spoiling any
more about the mechanics of that, because, as we all know,
the fun of those movies is seeing the way the
(43:37):
Rube Goldberg, you know, murder machines kind of play out.
This is also a sad story. I'm not I'm not
trying to make light of it. This is an individual
who has lost his life and left behind a wife
who is very much grieving. But lest you wonder if
this type of thing is possible, it apparently very much is.
(44:00):
NBC reports man wearing heavy metallic necklace dies after being
sucked into MRI machine. A sixty one year old man
has died after he was sucked into a magnetic resonance
imaging machine a medical center while he was wearing a
heavy metal necklace. The man entered a room at Nasau
Open MRI in Westbury on New York's Long Island without
(44:22):
permission as the MRI machine was running. Nassau County Police
Department set His wife, who spoke to the BBC, said
that she had called him into the room after her
scan and his very heavy chain necklace. We're not talking
about like a little thin metal chain. We're talking about
(44:42):
the kind of heavy chain that you might use to
secure a bicycle, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, it's like a brack, it's like a bike chain.
We're talking pounds of weight.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I think that's right, twenty pounds in fact, nine kilos
if you are in the region where the BBC reports
from a chain with a lock that he used for
weight training. Seemed like a tough fella at that instant,
she said. The machine switched him around and pulled him in.
(45:12):
This is terrifying, and he hit the MRI. This comes
from Adrianne Jones McAllister. Victim was not named, however, she
told local TV say she didn't speak directly BBC there
reporting from News twelve Long Island that it was her husband, Keith,
who sadly passed away. She said the visit on the
(45:36):
sixteenth of July was not her and her husband's first
time at the facility. It was also not the first
time the employee had seen her husband's weight that he
used for training. She claimed an employee and her husband
previously quote had a conversation about it before. Oh that's
a big chain. It's a big chain right there.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And he used it for weight training. That's what we Seeah,
it was a decorative.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
No, I know, it's interesting, it's true, Ben, I do
wonder you know, I mean, maybe it's someone who likes
to wear their swollness on their sleeve or on their neck.
You know, it's a little bit of a flex but
maybe it's an ongoing kind of weight training, you know,
to have that around your night to beef up those
those neck muscles. So makes sense. Not something that I'm
(46:20):
familiar with, but yeah, it's a sad thing that happened.
The BBC contacted Nasau open Mri for comment. I guess
the question a lot of people are asking is will
there be a lawsuit? You know, it does seem that
the gentleman went in there into a restricted area wearing this,
and I would imagine that there are waivers that are signed,
(46:43):
or that there's some understanding that you know, if you
trespass more or less into an unauthorized area, then you know,
it's kind of on you. What do you think, Ben,
do you think there's grounds for a lawsuit? We're going
to talk a little bit more about does this thing
happen often? In a second, right, there is precedent for this. Look,
(47:04):
we have accounts from other people who are MRI techs.
I'm thinking of at Nicole, the MRI tech literally her
name on social media. She shows how silver and gold
jewelry kind of similar to the lightweight gold necklace that
you wear, that's not going to cause a fatal injury
(47:28):
toward an MRI machine. But I think the question all
of us will have in the audience tonight is why
didn't the tech just turn off the MRI instantly? That
is a big question. And I imagine that there was
some you know, what's the word hustle involved, right, I mean,
(47:48):
I can't imagine that there wouldn't be, but who knows.
There's a lot of reasons that might be the case.
I would also imagine or wonder why if not, that
there wasn't some sort of failsafe mechanism, you know, given,
But I guess I don't fully understand how that would
be implemented. Maybe it does require a manual shut off
because according to the US Food and Drug Administration this
(48:11):
is from the BBC, MRI machines have magnetic fields that
will attract magnetic objects of all sizes than when you
are going in for one of these things. The texts
and the personnel of the hospital have to be very
FASTIDI is making sure that you don't have any keys,
mobile phones, oxygen tanks for example, things like that that
could cause damage to the equipment or severe injury to
(48:35):
the patient or medical personnel, because this essentially could weaponize
these type of objects, turning them into projectiles. In two
thousand and one, a six year old boy did pass
away from a fractured skull at a New York City
medical center while undergoing an MRI after its magnetic force
propelled an oxygen tank across the room. So we're talking
(48:59):
magnedo level powers, you know, weaponizing all metal things in
the area. So something to follow, interesting to see, Interested
to see if there will be any follow up litigation
here and how that'll play out.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, and it goes to folks. It goes to the
idea of Pharaoh magnetism. So in our earlier example, nol
with with your chain, the metals that are commonly used
to make jewelry, like silver, platinum, gold, those are not
feroh magnetic.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
We're talking about particles right, largely right right.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Steel, scissors, oxygen tanks.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Alloys, things that have a mix of these types of metals.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Even tools, also bike chains. We would love to hear
from you folks, friends and neighbors about why the machine
was not instantly turned off. Is there no kills? Which
is there no? As Noel mentioned built in safety safety mechanism.
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But it's a tragedy all the way round.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
For sure the US. So there's another piece from ABC
out of Australia. I believe this is that ABC. Now
this is something. This is a different ABC. It's an
Australian news agency, not the American broadcast company. They have
a piece about this case where they talk about the
risks of an MRI scan. The risks personally to an
(50:31):
individual in terms of the impact of the technology on
a body are really really low. It's not the same
as ionizing radiation that is used in X rays. It's
why this is a preferred mechanism for scanning folks or
even CT imaging. However, it does replace that with a
very very strong magnetic field, a field that can of
(50:53):
course extend well beyond the machine itself that can exert
forces on objects made of iron. To your point, been
some steels and other magnetizable objects. So it's important that
patients notify their doctors if they have any implants for example,
that could be problematic.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, one hundred percent, similar to pacemakers and microwaves.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Correct, And this news agency ABC dot AU does report
a stat from the FDA again who we mentioned earlier
that about three hundred adverse events reports for MRI scanners
and coils each year from manufacturers, distributors and patients are
submitted to the FDA. And then, of course we mentioned
(51:39):
that tragic case of a six year old who had
his skull fractured by a very similar type of incident
where a magnetic force propelled this oxygen tank.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Noel, have you ever had an MRI.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
I have not. I think the claustrophobic nature of it
would would really stress me out. Have you been.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yes? Actually I kind of dug it.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Doesn't it make a nice humming drone kind of sound
as well?
Speaker 3 (52:12):
You know, claustrophobia aside. I know that's not everybody's jam.
It was kind of like a sensory deprivation take For me.
It was one of the few times where I didn't
have to constantly check on emails, so that alone made
it kind of a cool experience.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yes, sir, I can totally see that and you're reminding
me then that I need to have one of those
experiences myself, because I have been meaning to do a
float tank situation and we have places here in the
Atland area to do that. So thanks for the reminder.
I'm going to put that to my list of new
experiences to experience. If you are looking for a new
experience to experience in the culinary fast food realm and
(52:57):
you haven't found yourself on the West Coast or Texas,
you might be in for a treat if you were
ever intrigued by the idea of In and Out Burger
from watching like The Big Lebowski or any other kind
of California lore. The good news here is that In
and Out the company that is untill now been exclusively
(53:21):
located their chain restaurants that make really delicious burgers. Their
fries are quite divisive, as we talked about with Dylan
off air. They're only located in the Pacific regions of
the US, and I think some in Texas as well. No,
definitely some in Texas, but mainly it's a California company.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
That's correct. It's due to their supply chain philosophy.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
Which is a good thing. Frankly, I mean, it does
make for a fresher burger. They don't ship frozen beef.
That is a big part of it. So they insist
that their supply warehouses and facilities be within driving distance
of their restaurants. This that's not going to change, But
what will change is the potential for new in and
(54:05):
out franchises in the on the East Coast. Because the
billionaire owner and president and heir to the originators of
the California based burger chain in an out Burger has
announced their company is well. It's a little bit confusing
because initially on a podcast that she was on, she
(54:27):
made it sound like they were pulling up routes, pulling
up rude Vegas from California, which is where they got
their start, of course, and moving to Tennessee, moving their
corporate headquarters. That was the original reporting. However, that is
not the case. They are not picking up and completely
relocating all of their restaurants and headquarters and enfranchising offices,
(54:51):
et cetera to the East Coast. They are just expanding,
and I think that's good news for a lot of
burger fans out there because it really is, as John
Goodman would say, a tasty burger.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah. Yeah, Actually, we are on record being fans of
in and Out burgers. If okay, if the fries are controversial,
we can all agree with respect that Dylan that the
burgers slap.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
We also had animal style.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, animal style is nice. The secret menu thing might
be a fun pop culture episode for us to do
on stuff they don't want you to know in the future.
We also need to hear your favorite local fast food
sleeper hits. This is very much again.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Can we talk about the ones you mentioning Ben Air ones?
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yes, so. Examples would be Pals. Pals is a legendary
fast food place in h in the part of the
world where Dylan and I have roots. Their fries are amazing.
They made some Dylan, how would we say it our
style of fry. We're talking cartoonishly specific aesthetic choices.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
A crinkled cut fry. We're talking to curly. I gotta
yeah for this.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Matt's back, Hey, Matt, oh.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Boy, Hey, sorry about that, guys. Cabin Wi Fi is
a tricky one. What we made it?
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, we did. So we're talking about the aesthetics of
regional fast food sleeper hits, referencing Pals of course, out
in East Tennessee. The aesthetic of the place is cartoonishly specific.
I'm being diplomatic. We're talking about a big, big fiberglass
(56:43):
anthology of sculptures in every pals location you run to us.
Speaker 4 (56:48):
I'm looking up some images now, yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
They're great and no all to your question regarding the fries,
we're looking at more a thin shoe string heavily seasoned fry's.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
It's a good I love a seasoned fry, and they
refer to them in the Pal's parlance. Let's talk about
sudden service in a minute too. By the way, as
frenchy fries the frenchy fries. What is this sudden service
methos philosophy? Sounds aggressive, right? You mentioned that previously a
(57:21):
fair too.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Uh, Pal's sudden service is this idea? You know what?
It's marketing, I'll say it. It's marketing. It means that
you it's always a drive through place, like a checker's. Maybe.
So it means that you don't have to wait in
the drive through line that long, you don't have to
(57:42):
pull over.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
Just suddenly your service.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
Yeah, just like oh I want a burger is granted. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Did you see they also have a thought I was
about to make today.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
And they have something called a sauce burger. It's great.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
It slaps.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
It's a top all beef patty with Pal's famous sauce
ketchup based mildly spicy.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Did you know? Okay, I don't want to get political here,
but I was watching an interview with the former president
Barack Obama and he said, with a full straight face.
He sounded very serious. He said that he doesn't believe
anybody over the age of eight should he catch up?
Speaker 4 (58:30):
Yeah, that's the Chicago thing too. I mean, like, should
catch up on a dog in Chicago is for boten
mustard only.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, it was. Actually I was talking with good friend
of the show, chef Ben about this, and you guys know, Ben,
I hope it's okay if I say this. Our chef
has some experience in the Chicago area.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
We had a land area.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, we had a pretty illuminating conversation about the hot
dog high hierarchy. We also, to your earlier question, we
mentioned Buddy's Barbecue out there in Tennessee. I just feel
like America is great for this. There are so many weird, regional,
(59:15):
amazing chains and franchises.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
I do think it's funny too, how Like, you know,
on the East Coast it's called what is it Parties?
On the West coast it's Carl's Junior.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
Right, Yeah, that's a confusing one. That's a conspiracy as well, Matt.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
We were so wait, why are we talking about all
of this stuff?
Speaker 4 (59:37):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (59:38):
What's happened?
Speaker 3 (59:38):
So much happened while you were while you were a
hunting with the WiFi. Sorry, we know you were playing
Mario Kart.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
No dude, but my cousin came up here and got
like thirteen million on this Simpsons pinball machine and I
was like, I, guys, I know you're you're doing really good,
but I think the WiFi just came on and he's like,
oh okay, and he turned it off reluctantly. It was
like crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
And the good news is we're about to wrap so
you can get back to it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yeah, we would, uh, we have pitched each other an
episode idea pop culture conspiracy episode on Oh dang it, No,
we nailed it just a few minutes ago. What was
our pop Oh secret menus, secret menu.
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Your menus? Yeah, and talking just in general, Matt, to
answer your question about how In and Out Burger is
expanding to the Northeast with a new, uh huge corporate
office in Tennessee. I don't think I got into exactly
where it is going to be near Nashville. And also
(01:00:44):
the CEO is moving there with her family, and that
was a big part of or a source of some
of the hubbub online with folks accusing her of abandoning
her root. She's born and raised in northern California, and
obviously In and Out has been a California staple for generations.
So she did come back in and clarify after some
of these out of context things taken from this podcast
(01:01:07):
interview that she did that they are not relocating, they
are not pulling up their roots in California. They're simply expanding,
which makes a whole lot of sense. She did make
some comments about how she wants her associates to be
able to own homes, and In and Out does, you know,
have a reputation for treating their associates very well, you know,
(01:01:29):
with fair pay and benefits and things like that. And
so she did make some somewhat negative comments about the
California economy, about how difficult it is to own a
home there. So she wants to give, you know, folks
who are working for the company the opportunity to move
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up that American dream letter, which I can respect. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
We heard good things I remember about what's the chicken
chain at the Workaholics guys quadruple handedly got from California
raising Caines. Yeah, we've heard good things about you know,
other companies that have moved their way east who tend
to have those kinds of practices where you're actually gonna
(01:02:15):
give your employees a livable wage. Pretty dopey.
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Great IDEA quick trip is another example. Going back to
our gas station truck stop episodes and discourse, I am
so excited you guys to hear about these regional sleeper
hit restaurants and fast food places. Also, I want to
take a moment for all our fellow Tennesseeans and shout
(01:02:40):
out my brother Dylan for mentioning doctor Enough. It's the
soda you will love that you've never heard about. Look
it up. It's spelled e ed uf on purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Whoa like, it's the def beer of enough doctor soda.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, step aside, sheer wine. You've had your time in
the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Well, guys, did you already talk about the MRI.
Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Yeah, Matt, we'll talk a little bit off air, but
we did kind of get into this idea of the
precedent being said and if there may or may not
be a lawsuit coming down the pike, and also how
this is a real life example of something that happened
in a recent horror movie and it is a sad story,
but it is something that I think is definitely captures
the imagination. It is possible, this is something that people
should be aware of and be very careful. And I'm
(01:03:28):
curious as to whether the hospital will be held liable.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
That's a question where Also, Matt, another thing we've got
to talk about off air, this AI pricing for airlines,
the dynamic pricing that Delta is rolling out. I didn't
mention this earlier, but I see the shadow of data
aggregation and perhaps vallunteer.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Delta's doing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Delta's doing it. Bro. Yeah, and with that, folks, we
are off to adventures. We want to know your opinion
of dynamic pricing and how much of a problem or
opportunity you see with these companies gathering so much information
(01:04:14):
about you. Do you think Microsoft is right to spend
billions of dollars bearing poop? Would you right get it
out of here? Would you move to Russia? What is
your experience with Mr I's tell us your favorite sports memorabilia.
We're going to get to a scandal with monks in
(01:04:36):
Thailand a little bit later in the coming weeks. For now,
we can't wait to hear from you again. Cannot over
emphasize this. Forget all of the other things happening in
the world right now. Your main priority is to tell
us your favorite regional sleeper hit fast food franchise. You
(01:04:56):
can find us online. You can send us an email,
you can give us it's a call.
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Correct. You can do all of those things by finding
us online at the handle conspiracy Stuff, where we exist
on Facebook with our Facebook group Here's where it gets
crazy where you Yes, you can get in on the
conversation with your fellow conspiracy realists. We are also conspiracy
Stuff on x FKA, Twitter and on YouTube. We have
video content galore for you to enjoy on Instagram and TikTok. However,
(01:05:22):
we're Conspiracy Stuff Show and there's more, and Matt's back
to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Oh yes, we have a phone number. It is one
eight three three std WYTK. When you call in, know
that you're inside a voicemail. It's exciting that you're in there.
It's a little weird. But while you're in there, why
not give yourself a cool nickname and let us know
if we can use your name and message on the air.
If you've got words to send us, maybe links, hyper links,
(01:05:49):
maybe even attachments, why not instead send us a good
old fashioned email.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
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we receive. Be well aware, Yet Una Fred sometimes writes back,
what are we talking about? Is it true that if
you send us a note, you make it a note
in return? There's one way to find out conspiracy at
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