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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Daily's
I T T Trenderini. That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver
and Italian brain rot. What's it? What's the original? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It depends on Chimpanzini Bani Banini or it could be
it could be it could be Sahur Toom Sahor is
the dumbest fucking one.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The whole thing is that one. Yeah, you've finally done it.
It'll explorted something that we like.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Where the fuck finally now we're talking about you.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's been a while, I mean what it's been since.
I mean Mario hits for sure. I mean it's a
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The way when I first heard the Bom Sahor, I
realized it was a magical.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Italian what's it called? I know, Franco file is fresh?
What's it the Italy version?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah? What Italy file?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Italo file? I think file.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Thank you, Brian the editor.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Brian the Editor coming through.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
A person who admires Italian culture. That's me, well, but
only the brain me. I'm Italian Italian brain ratophile.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
All right, let's talk about depressing news a little bit here.
Rafa Israeli forces have killed dozens of innocent people seeking aid.
In the last week.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, the death tolls up to like over I think
one hundred at this point. You know, because these like
sort of joint Israeli US AID stations distribution points have
been set up and Meny're like this is these are
nonsense operations, like this is not helping anyone, And the
starvation continues, saying people see what's going on here and
see it for what it is. But along with this
(02:07):
news somehow Matt Miller, if you remember, he was like
the fucking porcelain faced freak who is the spokesperson for
Biden's State Department, who would constantly obfuscate and defend what
was happening in Gaza and de Side. I don't even
know what it is. He has now recently come out
and said that he does believe that the Israelis have
committed war crimes.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
The just in time. Yeah, truly to make himself sleep
a little bit better, would you, yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Would you have come around to this if, if you know,
the if this administration had continued under Kamala Harris, what
are we what are we talking now? Are we just
now doing the thing? We're like, well, it's bad because
a Republican is at the seat of the empire now
and now we're suddenly against it. So yeah, just just
really really dark shit and yeah, nothing all the way
continue to fall apart. Yeah, yeah truly, Matt Miller.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, I think it's like full explanations. Like the thing
about being the spokesperson for the president is like, I'm
not the spokesperson for myself. I'm saying my thoughts, just
defending the president's thoughts and take orders. Yeah, just taking orders.
That's never gone wrong, and nobody if I had stopped
(03:19):
doing that, you know, that's the impossibility.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Stop trying to compare yourself with a person with no
financial recourse and they get involved with something immoral or
illegal or something to survive, No motherfucker. You could leave,
just like the other people at the State Department did
when they're like this is fuckery and I'm not. I
don't want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
There's also, you know, a lot of the refrain from
people has been like everybody's getting their news from TikTok,
and that's bad because it's unreliable. One of the reasons
that people are happy to get their news from TikTok
is because journalists have been completely banned from any of
the places that the Israeli army is attacking and committing genocide.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And attacking the journalists themselves.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, so a group of journalists were actually invited to
visit Masafariyata in the West Bank, which is where that
Oscar winning documentary No Other Land was filmed, which is
you know, constantly under attack from quote unquote settlers you know,
from you know, the idea and Israeli people trying to
(04:29):
you know, just invading their homes, attacking them and trying
to get them out. You know, it's like the front
lines of the Like getting you out of a place
where you still are called cleansing. I think that's the
word for it, thank you believe so. But the co
director literally invited them to his home and a convoy
(04:51):
of twenty reporters in press vehicles arrived and were detained
by balaklava wearing IDF soldiers. This is weird, like all
these soldiers suddenly worried about hiding their identity. That must
must just be yeah, I don't know. And the journalists
were given a reasonable time of ten minutes to leave
(05:12):
by somebody you know, holding an assault weapon. Prison right right,
and there's banned because Israeli forces claim they were causing
a public disturbance with their eyes taking in information.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, never mind the bulldozers and the unraveling of humanity
all around you, which might be considered a larger public
disturbance than people trying to bear witness to the atrocities.
That's just so what a fucking shitty made up reason.
We obviously care very much about public disturbances here, so those.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Things being disturbed, like we're trying to keep things fucking
chill over here. Don't mind the bulldozer.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Sorry sorry. In small print, it says we do not
want people bringing added awareness to the atrocities that are
unfolding here in the West.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I find added awareness disturbing and I'm publicly said that.
So that's a public disturbance.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Ah okay, great.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
In kind of positive I mean positive issues and.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Or suite or anything with this administration.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There were some ice rayds where a bunch of neighbors
kind of stood up to like the ice. It just
looked up looked like straight military wearing like full masks.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Did you see the guys who boarded a plane to
pull someone off during the day and they had night
vision goggles on their helmets. They looked like total dickheads,
and right now they're still dhs. People are like, where
are these people coming from? But you're like, that's are
they like militia fucks? How guys, you're supposed to know
the difference. They look like straight up militia people. Yeah,
(06:43):
it was kind of like, no, these are people that
are federal, they've been deputy. You're like it was so vague.
You're like, Okay, I don't even.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Was I supposed to know that from the bandana around
their face and the like, uh San Antonio Spurs championship
T shirt that they were wearing, Like, what's the fucking
U uniform here?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, because like you know, you see the optics. Plenty
of us have seen these clips of like the Icetoppo
gangs raiding a construction site or a farm or a
fucking elementary school, you know, places where the onlookers go, Yeah,
that's where all the worst fucking people are at a
construction site, farm or elementary school or on their way
to school. You know, people who really need to be
(07:23):
fucking just cast aside and taken away. But again, I
think all of this has a tremendous effect on everybody,
you know, even if you're not directly affected by it.
You know, maybe you see your parents or grandparents or
close friends in these people that are being fucking whisked away.
Or maybe you feel gratitude because by some fucking weird
chance you your family immigrated here and the quote unquote
(07:44):
right way or whatever, and now you enjoy American citizenship
somewhat undisturbed. But like, one thing is clear, all of
this cruelty is not resonating with a group of voters
Trump captured a huge segment of in twenty twenty four,
and that's Latino voters. So like in Pence, that was
a state where he made huge gains, but that honeymoon
(08:04):
has already ended, it seems. So he secured forty one
percent of the Latino vote in the last election. That's
up from twenty seven percent in twenty twenty, and a
lot of that has to do with young men moving
to the right, and that fourteen point increase narrow Democratic
margins from forty two points in twenty twenty to eighteen
points in twenty twenty four. So this is not insignificant,
(08:25):
especially if you're thinking about the same math for midterms
and what that means for mid terms if there are
free and fair midterm elections. Right now, his support from
that group is down to twenty seven percent. Okay, we're
up from getting forty one percent of the vote in
twenty twenty four to now twenty seven percent. Appeal will
be like, no, this is I can't. I want nothing
(08:46):
to do with this. So right now, I think this
is something that's unfolding. But this feels like one of
those stories where like the DNC would be like, yes,
the support's going down, right yeah, because their primary strategy
is to just passively watch his approval numbers go down
and then pop out every couple of years and be like,
what about a new flavor of disappointing anyone? And you know,
(09:09):
this kind of movement is exactly the kind of moment
where an opposition party that has their shit together would
identify a void and then fill it with policy that
has wider appeal. Like it doesn't even have to be
condemnation of Trump's policies, although that would help, but I
know how cowardly some of the Democrats are. It just
needs to be a well articulated policy on immigration that
(09:29):
isn't anchored by the fear that their opposition will paint
them as like MS thirteen share leaders, And it's just like,
that's what's so frustrating is the Democrats constantly play within
the republicans h zero sum framework of how all of
this works.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
One of the most bad faith people saying about us, Yeah,
that's okay, we need to worry about.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So that's the floor, that's the space we will operate from,
and then we will spend all our time trying to
justify why these people should have dignity, should be treated
with dignity. And that's their biggest messaging issue, just they
operate in the reality where Fox News headlines are the facts,
and then they have to contend with that rather than
ignoring that bullshit and just speaking truth and being like,
(10:10):
I don't give a shit what you say, Like that's
not what's going on, Like fucking ask anyone who lives
in this country. That's not how they feel. That's just
what you're saying to try and get people on board
with your xenophobia. But again they're like, well, just like
all the hand ringing about what to do about immigration
is so frustrating when you're like dude, just fucking go
out there and be like, these are human beings, man,
and we need to find a way if things are
(10:31):
bad in their country and they're seeking refuge, that we
have a way for them to find safety. And maybe
in a larger, you know, foreign policy extent, you can
talk about how to bring stability to those countries. But
that's that's probably a bridge too far for these.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Now, we gotta we gotta do some polling to figure
out how AOC is testing with the ICE agents with
the masks on. We got to figure out what they
think and then try and adjust her positions to make
them like her better.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Okay, what can we also get some poll on how
people feel about her? Which she wears bamboo earrings?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The like the thing in San Diego. So last week
there was like this immigration and customs enforcement work rate
at two Italian restaurants in kind of like a trendy
neighborhood in San Diego, and like a lot of people
like came out in the streets and were like protesting
them and like kind of pushing them back. The fucking
(11:25):
ICE agents used flashbangs on the people. Like it seems
like a pretty easy case to make that they're losing
the public opinion battle here. Yeah, but uh yeah, like
you said, should be easy to just be like, we're
we're we're gonna do something different what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Y'all love to say, look at what they're doing, right,
then fucking go back to that habit at the very least.
And I know, like, obviously there are Democrats that are
talking about this, but again they're lack of unity when
you have Hakeem Jeffries, who's like, what about Representative Jerry
Nadler was put in hand cuffs by DHS in his
own office, what do you have to say about that?
He was like, we're going to be We're gonna be strategic,
(12:05):
and we will respond in a time and place of
our choosing. Oh, and it will be and there will
be a response. It's like, no, there won't be. And
this is fucking terrible that you're taking this long to
react to this kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I just saw Obama share this like Axios article that
is just like, I mean, it's kind of more of
the same. It's just a guy who runs an AI
firm being like you, guys, we got to stop lying
and admit that we're about to put everybody out of work. Yeah,
all white collar entry level jobs are going away. Unemployment's
gonna spike like to ten to twenty percent in the
(12:55):
next one to five years, which I'm sure it could.
Like we've talked before about how like a lot of
jobs are bullshit jobs, and but like, I don't I
don't think the technology is any better than I did
yesterday or last month. My only experience with people using
AI in an official like work capacity is like the
AI not being up to the task, and then they
(13:15):
have to go back and be like, well, we're still interested,
but it's just not quite there.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm sorry, Jack. Do you have your window open? Because
I hear a bird song?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah? Is that all right? No?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was just I was tripping because I'm like, yo, am.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I I did. I just I need the I need
the sunlight.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I hate Uncle Jemimah's mash liquor, too hard hearing these birds.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Got those birds in the bastard.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You get the bird song apout.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't have it out, but I'm pretty sure it's
a California talhy. But here there you go fucking and
then see if see if I got that right, Let
me see if it Ah, fuck Buick's wren. Oh you
Wick Regal.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's a Buick red damn it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It's just a horn.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I did hear a bird thing and thought that it
was the sound of a car door unlocking earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh well, but aren't there like those like mocking birds
kind of pick up on those sounds.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
They hear them so much.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I actually picked up a northern mocking bird the other day, like,
not with my hands on my app Jack picked it
up and kiss now kid my life with your other
ticon me. Yeah, my life is like a snow white
at the beginning of that movie. Just birds landing on.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Me, putting on your stones before you podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's right, But yeah, I think it still sucks. But
I also think like CEO's interest in adoption of the
technology seems to be like picking up steam.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's the most frightening thing. Yes, you saw this with
the metaverse years ago, like Web three, but this feels
different because the metaverse is demonstrably a stupid fucking idea,
you know. Yeah, But all I'm saying is like it's
like a buzzword that goes around Wall Street. They'd be going, yeah,
we're doing that here too, We're doing that here too.
(15:13):
And that's what I mean is like that sort of
parroting imitation of what other C suites are doing. That's
what's frightening. Oh yeah, we're doing doing a I think
too for savings.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, but I think they're really gonna do Like I
think they're just going to leap before like they have
evidence that it can work, because it like is not
going to They're never going to get evidence and it's
going to work.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, all we have is evidence that it doesn't because
we haven't left yet.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's when we figure it out. Yeah, dude,
But they seem I don't know. I also have the
sense that like people at the highest level of companies
are pretty insulated from like what is working, what is
actually like driving value, like with the reasons that they're
like consumers actually like the thing, and all they you know,
(15:56):
their head is fully in the world of like Wall
Street and what Wall Street thinks is like interesting or
a good idea. And yeah, I mean we we talked recently.
It's just going to be an excuse for corporations to
get a reset on what they pay their employees because
they'll use the AI thing as an excuse to fire
a bunch of employees and then they'll have to hire
(16:17):
them back when their product is not as good because
the AI technology is like not where it needs to be.
And then but as contract worker, yeah, they'll bring them
back a contract where it's like in the same way
that the pandemic was an excuse for them to just
reset what they charged things. They're like, we've got these
supply supply chain problems going on, so we're gonna ramp
(16:40):
up the price, and holy shit, people are still buying
stuff because they need to great Like I think they're
That's what that's how this is going to function.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean, that's what happened in that Klarna example. You
know where exactly going hapen, And I feel like that
maybe where they go, what is this what is this
kombucha here of Oh, you can hire back as contract
workers and I get benefits.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh oh okay, yeah, just the financial incentives for companies
are totally disconnected from any sort of reality or like
the products that they're selling.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It every time, from the Klarna executive to other companies
that talk about the AI integration like their company's about
to embark on. It's always discussed in terms of quote
unquote savings, which again for it's Wall Street talk to
our shareholders will get money, Yeah, it will make line
go up. Okay, And I don't know, maybe I have
(17:40):
that old proverb wrong. Maybe it is greed is the
mother of all invention, that's right, But yeah, this is
just that's what really scares me is that none of
this is actually looked in terms of what the experience,
like how this helps your product, how this helps your workers,
how this helps their day to day or whatever. It's
purely how much how do I how do I like
kind of save some money that I could just kind
(18:02):
of snort back up into the shareholders. Wow?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Wow, it is going to be interesting. Brian the editor
points out, it went once everybody is broken, homeless, and
they supposedly have AI running everything, who do they think
is going to buy anything?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
They haven't thought that far, and then at that point
they're just going to try and just you know, completely
nullify our ability to receive meaningful Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
All of that shit. That's why, like even that quote
from the CEO. It like reeks of this Sam altman
cyanide quote where it's like, we gotta be honest, guys,
we're about to fucking fuck over ten to twenty percent
(18:37):
of the workforce. If that's the case, fuck you and
you should fucking go get fucked. If you're actually sitting
at the wheel thinking like this is actually gonn affect
ten to twenty percent of people's employment and their ability
to exist under capitalism, then actually you are the ops
and like what the fuck are you? What are we
talking about? Then you need to rethink what your product does.
If you're like, yeah, the effect of this is going
(18:59):
to be fucked up.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I think Obama like buying in and being like,
let me be clear, we should we should look at
this like is I think that's significant? Like he's the
pope of neoliberalism, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Of course, hope Nvidia the ninth.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Louisiana passed a build This is in some good news.
Louisiana passed to build a band KEMP trails. So fine,
someone stopthing. That's gonna be so funny, like if they
it just passed the House and now it has to
go to the state Senate. But like, just are they
just gonna be like sitting there watching the planes go by,
(19:38):
because like KEMP trails are not. That's just like cut,
what happens with the planes sliding through the Yeah, I
want to see him try. This is one that like,
I can't wait to see Louisiana cut put together the
science on how they're going to ban KEEM trails slash
contrails from the sky over what are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Right? Because the whole thing is the measure directs the
Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality to record reported chemtrail sightings
and pass complaints to the Air National Guard.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's gonna be a database of stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Lawmakers removed penalties for violations, opting instead for further investigation
and document. Yeah, because they're gonna be they're gonna like, yeah,
come up there with us, look in the fucking plane.
We're not doing anything. It's fucking water.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
They should I mean that that'll be a blat and
once they see that, they'll, uh, everything will be cleared
up and they'll move off it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So fucking stupid.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Brian the editor was pointing out, they could just like
go hang off the wing like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Taste it all right, now it's water. It's water. Actually
I want to come back inside them loseing my gram.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And then in really devastating news to close out kind
of a bad news day. But the actor from Parks
and rec Jonathan Joss, Yeah, most famously voice of John
On red Corn of King of the Hill, was also
you know, made appearances on Parks and Rec. So he
was murdered in a hate crime and just has been
(21:10):
revealed the extent of the interaction that led to his
shooting death. And it's it's just wild. I mean it's
he was murdered by a homophobic monster and like a
total hate wild.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So his husband posted sort of like a breakdown of
what happened then on TMZ. Now they have quotes from
their neighbors like there was no homophobia. It wasn't homophobic
at all. It's just that they hated each other. I'm like,
what does that even mean? And then like now they're
saying like he used to bang pot like this guy
Jonathan just he was a real bad neighbor. And I'm like,
(21:42):
what is I having such trouble believing this? Like this
feels so weird. The police are like, we have no
evidence of a hate crime. I don't know. According to
Jonathan Joss's husband, this guy was saying wild racial slurs
and apparently there was like the skull of their dog
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's a terrible story, but are the headlines at first
or that he died not even murdered. And then I'm like, oh,
he passed away, and then you like click, then I
clicked and argument like, oh my god, he was fucking
murdered by his neighbor. What the fuck happened? Like in
a disagreement. Then we got this post from his husband
with some more details, and now like these counter reports
(22:23):
that it's like, I don't know whatever that guy, whatever
they're saying is like it is not true regardless, absolutely
fucked up and terrible. But yeah, it's just like I'm
like really confused why TMC is like now like no.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Homophobias murderers version.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Of events, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And but then like he's the comment section on there
completely melted and sounded like he wasn't a good guy.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's like, what are you talking about? Because you're because
you had a dispute with your neighbors anyway, really really
really devastating loss. Yea, yeah, please, I hope they sort
this fucking situation out so I don't have to read
weird contradicting shit in tmz wor, which I always go
for all of my hardcore news.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah. Every one of these news stories. By the way,
every one of these stories was sourced from TMZ. So
except for the kinds of stuff yeah yeah, no, no, no,
they don't talk about that. That is gonna do it
for this afternoon's episode. We are back tomorrow with the
whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines
where you still can get your flu shots, don't do
(23:33):
nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you
all tomorrow. Bye bye bye.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Daily's
I T T Trenderini. That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver
and Italian brain rot. What's it? What's the original? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It depends on Chimpanzini Bani Banini or it could be
it could be it could be Sahur Toom Sahor is
the dumbest fucking one.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The whole thing is that one. Yeah, you've finally done it.
It'll explorted something that we like.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Where the fuck finally now we're talking about you.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's been a while, I mean what it's been since.
I mean Mario hits for sure. I mean it's a
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The way when I first heard the Bom Sahor, I
realized it was a magical.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Italian what's it called? I know, Franco file is fresh?
What's it the Italy version?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah? What Italy file?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Italo file? I think file.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Thank you, Brian the editor.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Brian the Editor coming through.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
A person who admires Italian culture. That's me, well, but
only the brain me. I'm Italian Italian brain ratophile.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
All right, let's talk about depressing news a little bit here.
Rafa Israeli forces have killed dozens of innocent people seeking aid.
In the last week.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, the death tolls up to like over I think
one hundred at this point. You know, because these like
sort of joint Israeli US AID stations distribution points have
been set up and Meny're like this is these are
nonsense operations, like this is not helping anyone, And the
starvation continues, saying people see what's going on here and
see it for what it is. But along with this
(02:07):
news somehow Matt Miller, if you remember, he was like
the fucking porcelain faced freak who is the spokesperson for
Biden's State Department, who would constantly obfuscate and defend what
was happening in Gaza and de Side. I don't even
know what it is. He has now recently come out
and said that he does believe that the Israelis have
committed war crimes.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
The just in time. Yeah, truly to make himself sleep
a little bit better, would you, yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Would you have come around to this if, if you know,
the if this administration had continued under Kamala Harris, what
are we what are we talking now? Are we just
now doing the thing? We're like, well, it's bad because
a Republican is at the seat of the empire now
and now we're suddenly against it. So yeah, just just
really really dark shit and yeah, nothing all the way
continue to fall apart. Yeah, yeah truly, Matt Miller.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, I think it's like full explanations. Like the thing
about being the spokesperson for the president is like, I'm
not the spokesperson for myself. I'm saying my thoughts, just
defending the president's thoughts and take orders. Yeah, just taking orders.
That's never gone wrong, and nobody if I had stopped
(03:19):
doing that, you know, that's the impossibility.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Stop trying to compare yourself with a person with no
financial recourse and they get involved with something immoral or
illegal or something to survive, No motherfucker. You could leave,
just like the other people at the State Department did
when they're like this is fuckery and I'm not. I
don't want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
There's also, you know, a lot of the refrain from
people has been like everybody's getting their news from TikTok,
and that's bad because it's unreliable. One of the reasons
that people are happy to get their news from TikTok
is because journalists have been completely banned from any of
the places that the Israeli army is attacking and committing genocide.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And attacking the journalists themselves.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, so a group of journalists were actually invited to
visit Masafariyata in the West Bank, which is where that
Oscar winning documentary No Other Land was filmed, which is
you know, constantly under attack from quote unquote settlers you know,
from you know, the idea and Israeli people trying to
(04:29):
you know, just invading their homes, attacking them and trying
to get them out. You know, it's like the front
lines of the Like getting you out of a place
where you still are called cleansing. I think that's the
word for it, thank you believe so. But the co
director literally invited them to his home and a convoy
(04:51):
of twenty reporters in press vehicles arrived and were detained
by balaklava wearing IDF soldiers. This is weird, like all
these soldiers suddenly worried about hiding their identity. That must
must just be yeah, I don't know. And the journalists
were given a reasonable time of ten minutes to leave
(05:12):
by somebody you know, holding an assault weapon. Prison right right,
and there's banned because Israeli forces claim they were causing
a public disturbance with their eyes taking in information.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, never mind the bulldozers and the unraveling of humanity
all around you, which might be considered a larger public
disturbance than people trying to bear witness to the atrocities.
That's just so what a fucking shitty made up reason.
We obviously care very much about public disturbances here, so those.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Things being disturbed, like we're trying to keep things fucking
chill over here. Don't mind the bulldozer.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Sorry sorry. In small print, it says we do not
want people bringing added awareness to the atrocities that are
unfolding here in the West.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I find added awareness disturbing and I'm publicly said that.
So that's a public disturbance.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Ah okay, great.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
In kind of positive I mean positive issues and.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Or suite or anything with this administration.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There were some ice rayds where a bunch of neighbors
kind of stood up to like the ice. It just
looked up looked like straight military wearing like full masks.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Did you see the guys who boarded a plane to
pull someone off during the day and they had night
vision goggles on their helmets. They looked like total dickheads,
and right now they're still dhs. People are like, where
are these people coming from? But you're like, that's are
they like militia fucks? How guys, you're supposed to know
the difference. They look like straight up militia people. Yeah,
(06:43):
it was kind of like, no, these are people that
are federal, they've been deputy. You're like it was so vague.
You're like, Okay, I don't even.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Was I supposed to know that from the bandana around
their face and the like, uh San Antonio Spurs championship
T shirt that they were wearing, Like, what's the fucking
U uniform here?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, because like you know, you see the optics. Plenty
of us have seen these clips of like the Icetoppo
gangs raiding a construction site or a farm or a
fucking elementary school, you know, places where the onlookers go, Yeah,
that's where all the worst fucking people are at a
construction site, farm or elementary school or on their way
to school. You know, people who really need to be
(07:23):
fucking just cast aside and taken away. But again, I
think all of this has a tremendous effect on everybody,
you know, even if you're not directly affected by it.
You know, maybe you see your parents or grandparents or
close friends in these people that are being fucking whisked away.
Or maybe you feel gratitude because by some fucking weird
chance you your family immigrated here and the quote unquote
(07:44):
right way or whatever, and now you enjoy American citizenship
somewhat undisturbed. But like, one thing is clear, all of
this cruelty is not resonating with a group of voters
Trump captured a huge segment of in twenty twenty four,
and that's Latino voters. So like in Pence, that was
a state where he made huge gains, but that honeymoon
(08:04):
has already ended, it seems. So he secured forty one
percent of the Latino vote in the last election. That's
up from twenty seven percent in twenty twenty, and a
lot of that has to do with young men moving
to the right, and that fourteen point increase narrow Democratic
margins from forty two points in twenty twenty to eighteen
points in twenty twenty four. So this is not insignificant,
(08:25):
especially if you're thinking about the same math for midterms
and what that means for mid terms if there are
free and fair midterm elections. Right now, his support from
that group is down to twenty seven percent. Okay, we're
up from getting forty one percent of the vote in
twenty twenty four to now twenty seven percent. Appeal will
be like, no, this is I can't. I want nothing
(08:46):
to do with this. So right now, I think this
is something that's unfolding. But this feels like one of
those stories where like the DNC would be like, yes,
the support's going down, right yeah, because their primary strategy
is to just passively watch his approval numbers go down
and then pop out every couple of years and be like,
what about a new flavor of disappointing anyone? And you know,
(09:09):
this kind of movement is exactly the kind of moment
where an opposition party that has their shit together would
identify a void and then fill it with policy that
has wider appeal. Like it doesn't even have to be
condemnation of Trump's policies, although that would help, but I
know how cowardly some of the Democrats are. It just
needs to be a well articulated policy on immigration that
(09:29):
isn't anchored by the fear that their opposition will paint
them as like MS thirteen share leaders, And it's just like,
that's what's so frustrating is the Democrats constantly play within
the republicans h zero sum framework of how all of
this works.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
One of the most bad faith people saying about us, Yeah,
that's okay, we need to worry about.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So that's the floor, that's the space we will operate from,
and then we will spend all our time trying to
justify why these people should have dignity, should be treated
with dignity. And that's their biggest messaging issue, just they
operate in the reality where Fox News headlines are the facts,
and then they have to contend with that rather than
ignoring that bullshit and just speaking truth and being like,
(10:10):
I don't give a shit what you say, Like that's
not what's going on, Like fucking ask anyone who lives
in this country. That's not how they feel. That's just
what you're saying to try and get people on board
with your xenophobia. But again they're like, well, just like
all the hand ringing about what to do about immigration
is so frustrating when you're like dude, just fucking go
out there and be like, these are human beings, man,
and we need to find a way if things are
(10:31):
bad in their country and they're seeking refuge, that we
have a way for them to find safety. And maybe
in a larger, you know, foreign policy extent, you can
talk about how to bring stability to those countries. But
that's that's probably a bridge too far for these.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Now, we gotta we gotta do some polling to figure
out how AOC is testing with the ICE agents with
the masks on. We got to figure out what they
think and then try and adjust her positions to make
them like her better.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Okay, what can we also get some poll on how
people feel about her? Which she wears bamboo earrings?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The like the thing in San Diego. So last week
there was like this immigration and customs enforcement work rate
at two Italian restaurants in kind of like a trendy
neighborhood in San Diego, and like a lot of people
like came out in the streets and were like protesting
them and like kind of pushing them back. The fucking
(11:25):
ICE agents used flashbangs on the people. Like it seems
like a pretty easy case to make that they're losing
the public opinion battle here. Yeah, but uh yeah, like
you said, should be easy to just be like, we're
we're we're gonna do something different what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Y'all love to say, look at what they're doing, right,
then fucking go back to that habit at the very least.
And I know, like, obviously there are Democrats that are
talking about this, but again they're lack of unity when
you have Hakeem Jeffries, who's like, what about Representative Jerry
Nadler was put in hand cuffs by DHS in his
own office, what do you have to say about that?
He was like, we're going to be We're gonna be strategic,
(12:05):
and we will respond in a time and place of
our choosing. Oh, and it will be and there will
be a response. It's like, no, there won't be. And
this is fucking terrible that you're taking this long to
react to this kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I just saw Obama share this like Axios article that
is just like, I mean, it's kind of more of
the same. It's just a guy who runs an AI
firm being like you, guys, we got to stop lying
and admit that we're about to put everybody out of work. Yeah,
all white collar entry level jobs are going away. Unemployment's
gonna spike like to ten to twenty percent in the
(12:55):
next one to five years, which I'm sure it could.
Like we've talked before about how like a lot of
jobs are bullshit jobs, and but like, I don't I
don't think the technology is any better than I did
yesterday or last month. My only experience with people using
AI in an official like work capacity is like the
AI not being up to the task, and then they
(13:15):
have to go back and be like, well, we're still interested,
but it's just not quite there.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm sorry, Jack. Do you have your window open? Because
I hear a bird song?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah? Is that all right? No?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was just I was tripping because I'm like, yo, am.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I I did. I just I need the I need
the sunlight.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I hate Uncle Jemimah's mash liquor, too hard hearing these birds.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Got those birds in the bastard.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You get the bird song apout.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't have it out, but I'm pretty sure it's
a California talhy. But here there you go fucking and
then see if see if I got that right, Let
me see if it Ah, fuck Buick's wren. Oh you
Wick Regal.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's a Buick red damn it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It's just a horn.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I did hear a bird thing and thought that it
was the sound of a car door unlocking earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh well, but aren't there like those like mocking birds
kind of pick up on those sounds.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
They hear them so much.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I actually picked up a northern mocking bird the other day, like,
not with my hands on my app Jack picked it
up and kiss now kid my life with your other
ticon me. Yeah, my life is like a snow white
at the beginning of that movie. Just birds landing on.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Me, putting on your stones before you podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's right, But yeah, I think it still sucks. But
I also think like CEO's interest in adoption of the
technology seems to be like picking up steam.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's the most frightening thing. Yes, you saw this with
the metaverse years ago, like Web three, but this feels
different because the metaverse is demonstrably a stupid fucking idea,
you know. Yeah, But all I'm saying is like it's
like a buzzword that goes around Wall Street. They'd be going, yeah,
we're doing that here too, We're doing that here too.
(15:13):
And that's what I mean is like that sort of
parroting imitation of what other C suites are doing. That's
what's frightening. Oh yeah, we're doing doing a I think
too for savings.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, but I think they're really gonna do Like I
think they're just going to leap before like they have
evidence that it can work, because it like is not
going to They're never going to get evidence and it's
going to work.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, all we have is evidence that it doesn't because
we haven't left yet.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's when we figure it out. Yeah, dude,
But they seem I don't know. I also have the
sense that like people at the highest level of companies
are pretty insulated from like what is working, what is
actually like driving value, like with the reasons that they're
like consumers actually like the thing, and all they you know,
(15:56):
their head is fully in the world of like Wall
Street and what Wall Street thinks is like interesting or
a good idea. And yeah, I mean we we talked recently.
It's just going to be an excuse for corporations to
get a reset on what they pay their employees because
they'll use the AI thing as an excuse to fire
a bunch of employees and then they'll have to hire
(16:17):
them back when their product is not as good because
the AI technology is like not where it needs to be.
And then but as contract worker, yeah, they'll bring them
back a contract where it's like in the same way
that the pandemic was an excuse for them to just
reset what they charged things. They're like, we've got these
supply supply chain problems going on, so we're gonna ramp
(16:40):
up the price, and holy shit, people are still buying
stuff because they need to great Like I think they're
That's what that's how this is going to function.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean, that's what happened in that Klarna example. You
know where exactly going hapen, And I feel like that
maybe where they go, what is this what is this
kombucha here of Oh, you can hire back as contract
workers and I get benefits.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh oh okay, yeah, just the financial incentives for companies
are totally disconnected from any sort of reality or like
the products that they're selling.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It every time, from the Klarna executive to other companies
that talk about the AI integration like their company's about
to embark on. It's always discussed in terms of quote
unquote savings, which again for it's Wall Street talk to
our shareholders will get money, Yeah, it will make line
go up. Okay, And I don't know, maybe I have
(17:40):
that old proverb wrong. Maybe it is greed is the
mother of all invention, that's right, But yeah, this is
just that's what really scares me is that none of
this is actually looked in terms of what the experience,
like how this helps your product, how this helps your workers,
how this helps their day to day or whatever. It's
purely how much how do I how do I like
kind of save some money that I could just kind
(18:02):
of snort back up into the shareholders. Wow?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Wow, it is going to be interesting. Brian the editor
points out, it went once everybody is broken, homeless, and
they supposedly have AI running everything, who do they think
is going to buy anything?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
They haven't thought that far, and then at that point
they're just going to try and just you know, completely
nullify our ability to receive meaningful Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
All of that shit. That's why, like even that quote
from the CEO. It like reeks of this Sam altman
cyanide quote where it's like, we gotta be honest, guys,
we're about to fucking fuck over ten to twenty percent
(18:37):
of the workforce. If that's the case, fuck you and
you should fucking go get fucked. If you're actually sitting
at the wheel thinking like this is actually gonn affect
ten to twenty percent of people's employment and their ability
to exist under capitalism, then actually you are the ops
and like what the fuck are you? What are we
talking about? Then you need to rethink what your product does.
If you're like, yeah, the effect of this is going
(18:59):
to be fucked up.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I think Obama like buying in and being like,
let me be clear, we should we should look at
this like is I think that's significant? Like he's the
pope of neoliberalism, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Of course, hope Nvidia the ninth.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Louisiana passed a build This is in some good news.
Louisiana passed to build a band KEMP trails. So fine,
someone stopthing. That's gonna be so funny, like if they
it just passed the House and now it has to
go to the state Senate. But like, just are they
just gonna be like sitting there watching the planes go by,
(19:38):
because like KEMP trails are not. That's just like cut,
what happens with the planes sliding through the Yeah, I
want to see him try. This is one that like,
I can't wait to see Louisiana cut put together the
science on how they're going to ban KEEM trails slash
contrails from the sky over what are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Right? Because the whole thing is the measure directs the
Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality to record reported chemtrail sightings
and pass complaints to the Air National Guard.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's gonna be a database of stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Lawmakers removed penalties for violations, opting instead for further investigation
and document. Yeah, because they're gonna be they're gonna like, yeah,
come up there with us, look in the fucking plane.
We're not doing anything. It's fucking water.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
They should I mean that that'll be a blat and
once they see that, they'll, uh, everything will be cleared
up and they'll move off it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So fucking stupid.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Brian the editor was pointing out, they could just like
go hang off the wing like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Taste it all right, now it's water. It's water. Actually
I want to come back inside them loseing my gram.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And then in really devastating news to close out kind
of a bad news day. But the actor from Parks
and rec Jonathan Joss, Yeah, most famously voice of John
On red Corn of King of the Hill, was also
you know, made appearances on Parks and Rec. So he
was murdered in a hate crime and just has been
(21:10):
revealed the extent of the interaction that led to his
shooting death. And it's it's just wild. I mean it's
he was murdered by a homophobic monster and like a
total hate wild.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So his husband posted sort of like a breakdown of
what happened then on TMZ. Now they have quotes from
their neighbors like there was no homophobia. It wasn't homophobic
at all. It's just that they hated each other. I'm like,
what does that even mean? And then like now they're
saying like he used to bang pot like this guy
Jonathan just he was a real bad neighbor. And I'm like,
(21:42):
what is I having such trouble believing this? Like this
feels so weird. The police are like, we have no
evidence of a hate crime. I don't know. According to
Jonathan Joss's husband, this guy was saying wild racial slurs
and apparently there was like the skull of their dog
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's a terrible story, but are the headlines at first
or that he died not even murdered. And then I'm like, oh,
he passed away, and then you like click, then I
clicked and argument like, oh my god, he was fucking
murdered by his neighbor. What the fuck happened? Like in
a disagreement. Then we got this post from his husband
with some more details, and now like these counter reports
(22:23):
that it's like, I don't know whatever that guy, whatever
they're saying is like it is not true regardless, absolutely
fucked up and terrible. But yeah, it's just like I'm
like really confused why TMC is like now like no.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Homophobias murderers version.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Of events, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And but then like he's the comment section on there
completely melted and sounded like he wasn't a good guy.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's like, what are you talking about? Because you're because
you had a dispute with your neighbors anyway, really really
really devastating loss. Yea, yeah, please, I hope they sort
this fucking situation out so I don't have to read
weird contradicting shit in tmz wor, which I always go
for all of my hardcore news.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah. Every one of these news stories. By the way,
every one of these stories was sourced from TMZ. So
except for the kinds of stuff yeah yeah, no, no, no,
they don't talk about that. That is gonna do it
for this afternoon's episode. We are back tomorrow with the
whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines
where you still can get your flu shots, don't do
(23:33):
nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you
all tomorrow. Bye bye bye.
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