April 18, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and psychotherapist Corin Grillo explore her research into angels and the role they play in raising spiritual awareness, how she uses messages from angels with her patients, and how you do not need to be religious to call on angels for a miracle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Koran Grilloback with us. Psychotherapist, spiritual teacher, channeler and expert
in mystical experiences and spiritual awakening. Koran has helped thousands
of seekers, creators, and leaders activate their spiritual power, transform
their lives, and ignite their souls deeper calling. Her latest
(00:26):
work is called Angel Wealth Magic. She else wrote a
book in twenty nineteen called The Angel Experiment, a twenty
one day magical adventure to heal your life. Koran, welcome back.
Have you been.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I've been pretty good, George, doing my best over here.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm great in Saint Louis. About to go to Charlotte,
North Carolina for a life stage. Soauvin, we've got to
get you to one of those.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Oh my gosh, I'd love to. That would be so fun.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You're on the West coast, right, I'm.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
On the West coast.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, But you know I can get into plane and go.
You know, I'm ready to go. I'm growing to go,
I'm getting I'm getting wild. In my older age is
what I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Saying, the angels are watching you.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That's right, I'm a free bird. I just got back
from New York with my family. That was really nice.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, how did you get involved in angelic stories?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, I mean, you know, it's it's the angels came
upon me. It was an unsuspecting turn of events. And
you know, at the time, I was a psychotherapist and
you know, by all standards, living the average life, except
for I was severely.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Depressed and and.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I had struggled with depression my whole life.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
But it was.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I my friend bought me an angel reading, and I
thought it was just going to be like, oh, let's
go talk to a psychic, and I in one hour,
I left feeling a lighter, brighter. It was like the
first time. I remember the next morning, it was the
first time I did not wish that that day would
(02:12):
be my last. If I could be frank with you,
since I was eighteen, I always kind of had a
bit of a death wish, and so it was Yeah,
so by calling in the angels. So she told me
at the end of at the end of that session,
she said, talk to the angels as if they're real,
because you have a lot of angels and they want
(02:32):
to get your attention, and I said, okay, I'll do that.
So I started talking to the angels and then within
a few days I witnessed just a massive miracle. Essentially,
I prayed for a bird.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I asked the.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Angels to come to to help it. It had a
broken wing, and I witnessed it divide into three tiny
healthy birds and fly away, George, And so that's that's
when I knew that angels were real. And look, I'm
a grounded, rational person. I didn't really come from a
(03:07):
religious background. I cuss all the time, you know, I'm
just like salt of the earth, even just doing my
best right to survive. And then when I saw this,
it was the magic of the moment. In witnessing this,
it wasn't just you know, another like flashback. It was
it was so powerful. I could feel the presence is
(03:28):
the thing, George. Like I could feel the tingles all
over me, wash all over me, and like my hair
felt staticky. And the power of the love is what
was really breathtaking. It wasn't just the visual, it was
the love. And then it was the quality of my
heart and how it changed after that and then after that,
(03:52):
I could hear the voice of something that finally wasn't
a big tyrant and trying to just tear me down
every day. It was a sweet voice, and it had hope.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It wanted me to.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Do weird things, better things, fun things, out of the
box things, and eventually led me into speaking about angels
out loud publicly because I had angel shame for the
first couple of years and I didn't even tell anybody
what had happened, although the personal revolution was becoming very
obvious because I was very like joyful and then and
(04:29):
then people knew that I started having these spiritual abilities
that I didn't have before, these kind of psychic ish
abilities and healing abilities. So I started bringing those things
into my one on one practice with my clients, because
my clients, you know, they thought, you know, I was
already like a pretty pretty badass therapist.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
But then you know, you don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Could you spend tens of thousands of dollars on a
license so like enter angels. It's like a really awkward position,
and you don't you don't don't want to like mess
with all of your licensure, and the board is it's
hard to explain, but I hope, I hope you pick
up when I'm You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
George.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's truly.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, it's awkward, but you know, as someone sitting in
there in front of me, suffering, I would feel the
presence come in, the love start cascading into the room,
and then I would try to just be like angels,
you know, can.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
You just wait, I'm trying to work here.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But eventually I realized, like, okay, I'm just gonna have
to say this out loud.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So then I would say to my clients, all right,
we got some.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know this is awkward, but we have some. I'm
just gonna call them angels and there might be a message,
would you like to hear it? And so no one
ever said no, and it didn't matter. It just didn't matter.
It didn't matter if they were atheists, agnostic, they could
have been Satanists.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
They would have said yes.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Everyone says yes to hearing a message from their angels.
And that's because there's something inside of us, even if
we deny it, that we want to believe and we
want to receive this love that has been given to
each of us. And that's what I didn't freaking know.
I didn't know that everybody has a right to it.
That we do not have to be religious, We do
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not have to believe one thing or another or this
or that it is for all people around the world.
And some people call them angels. Other people might call
them ancestors. It doesn't matter what we call them, as
long as we call them. Because miracles are real. And
that first miracle I just told you about, George, that
was just the first of many miracles I've witnessed now
(06:41):
after touching tens of thousands of people's lives around the
world accidentally, because I did start stepping out of the
angel closet, and I did start sharing the work, and
just you know, being willing to risk risk my I
guess my reputation as a therapist, as a serious therapist,
(07:03):
because that, you know it, just I was compelled to
start sharing. And and yeah, miracles are real and anything
people really need to know know that the reality of it.
It's it's the most practical, amazing encounter of my life.
I've had many more amazing encounters since then, but that
(07:27):
was the one that kicked me off and made me
go okay, I can't deny that one.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Let me tell you that interesting story. Cord there was
having a little appetizers with a buddy of mine and
he said, who do you got on the show today?
So I talked about our first two hour guests. I said,
g Edward girlfriend talking about the Federal Reserve and stuff.
And then I said, and then I've got an angel
lady coming on named corn Grillo coming on for the
(07:52):
second half. Just as I said that, three birds landed
on a tree next to me. What we were outside,
I'm in Saint Louis. It was almost eighty degrees today.
It was gorgeous out.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Three birds? And I'm saying to myself, I have never
seen three little birds together, almost like a team. And
they landed just as I mentioned your name. They landed
on a branch and just sat there for a little bit.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And yeah? And then they flew off.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Oh my god, you're making me cry, George again.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Is this is this for?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's for It's for all of us, you guys, It's
always for all of us.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
That's that's right.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mentioned your name and three birds, and you just
mentioned three birds.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It's just to me.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
This is what I've learned, is that when we start
sharing our unique experiences, just like you shared today, you
know you you're willing to share. You know, that's a
strange coincidence, but it's for all of us that they're
really here, they're really present, and when you have the
eyes to see, you begin seeing just like you did.
(09:08):
You see the connections, and you you follow the trail
of beauty as opposed to the trail of distortion.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Fascinating, it really is.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I can't even believe that, George. That's like, Okay, I
need to I need to be laying down. I'm in
a chair. This is dangerous. I'm about to pass out
from the beauty.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Oh, don't pass out. We've got two hours to go,
all right.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'll try not to. Okay, can't promise anything. It's your
fault if I do.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'll have to shout into the phone to wake you up.
All right. How many people have guardian angels that come
to their rescue.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Oh, that's an interesting question, Okay, guardian angels.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's not necessarily just about coming to the rescue. I
want to.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Say every person as not just the guardian angel. When
most people think of Guardian angels, they think of them
very like like kind of kind of scrubbed down. Okay,
Guardian angels are potent, like essentially fire beings.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
They are like powerful.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Warriors, and not just warriors. It's just a very powerful presence,
and everyone has one, and not all of us need rescuing.
That's not why we came here. We didn't come here
to get rescued. We came here to like experience the
fullness of like separation and all of this weird stuff
(10:37):
we do on the planet. We came here to learn,
to grow, and to discover love in an entirely new way.
We came here to collaborate and to to learn how
to respect each other's differences and learning learn.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
How to you know, we just learn. We all we
just came here to learn and play and and just
torture each other with our.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Ridiculousness, but also love each other super hard, and love
the planet and spirit super hard. So so so sometimes
an angel may intervene, but I like to see these
holy Guardian Angels as activators. I have a clearly controversial
(11:22):
view of what they could because the thing I feel
that works the best is looking at your guardian angel
as your beloved, like your most ultimate beloved, your most
delicious counterpart. So someone that like a being that would
just make you swoon. I don't know if you have
any mythical creatures that you watch on TV.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Like, you know, you're like, wow, that elf is just.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Amazing when I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But yeah, so I find that it's the the the
actual arrow sur vibe, like the like the like your fault,
like you're dating or flirting, that that is the kind.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Of chemistry or the magnetism that really brings you into contact.
And not just that, but also child like wonder and awe,
like a child's heart, folk that don't take themselves so seriously.
That can kind of put you into the field of
the guardian. And so, but angels do step in for people.
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Sometimes a lot of times they step in, but we
don't notice because it's not how we wanted it to go.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Fascinating. Now you have said all along that angels are
not just helpers, but they're initiators. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes, they are initiators. If you even just think about
that first story that I told you, that was the
first of many iterations of wild, amazing, magical play life.
It's a magical playground, Groundville.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And so.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Angels are I think we have a we have a
problem with how we think about angels. Okay, So angels
are not just fuzzy little kittens. They are powerful beings
that that carried the potency of an aspect of God.
And so I like to think of them as different
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faces of God or gateways to God. And so when
you look at esoteric traditions like the Kabbala are some
of these, you know, more ancient traditions, you can see
that angels were often present during you know, major events, like.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
They're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And so there's a reason why there's always an angel
associated with a prophet, like you know, Mohammed. Why angels
came to tell Mary Gabriel, you know, came to tell
Mary you know you have a Messiah in your belly. Right,
It's like there's the angels are there at the edge
of consciousness. So one of the ways that I like
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to think of it is that these so the archangels
in particular, are like gatekeepers, and they hold gatekeepers to
gnosis or to to knowledge.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
To wisdom.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
So the difference between just to just to be clear,
so people understand my framework here. I didn't know what
was happening to me back in the day. Okay, I
didn't know why I was having these just cataclysmic in
a good way, spiritual experiences. And and there's a difference
between a mystic and a religious person. A mystic is
(14:42):
someone who needs to experiment, needs to have the experience themselves.
They want direct communion with the Creator. They want to
merge with the divine. They don't want to hear someone
else's Like, it's not good enough if you're just gonna
tell me of something I in order for me to
believe I need to.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Know so.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That that experienced that mystical union.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I forget, Sorry, I forgot your question, but.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I do want to say the mystical route is one
that requires openness and experimentation.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, we're talking about angels not being just helpers but initiators.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, so they can initiate you into your next phase
out of learning, your next phase of I guess in
the in the Eastern philosophies, they'd call it illumination or enlightenment. Okay,
but Western traditions actually have one. So I have a tradition,
a path of initiation, a path of illumination, and angels
(15:46):
are one of the quintessential pieces of that of awakening.
And we've all heard a lot of terms about, oh,
you know, ascension and we're awakening, or a lot of
the people in the New Age communities kind of talk
like that, but it actually has some roots and one
of the bones that I like to pick with some
of the kind of ungrounded forms, not ungrounded in a
(16:11):
bad way. I'm just saying the ones that don't root there,
what's happening to them in tradition is is that they
think that's like that. Even the New Age it's it's
the bs. There's no such thing as New Age. It's
all all of that stuff is old age that we've
forgotten from generations of kind of brainwashing. But there's nothing
(16:35):
new about mediumship. That's ancestor work. That's like indigenous work.
And we're all kind of from the lands, and spirit
has always been fused with the land. The angels are
part of the land, like Christ, if you if you
follow Jesus, for whoever you follow, it's all in the land.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
So, uh yeah, have you have you seen the movie
It's a Wonderful life. I have It's one of my
favorites with Jimmy Stewart, where an angel named Clarence is
sent down to earn his wings, but he's got to
save George Bailey, and it's probably one of the most
(17:14):
emotional movies I've ever seen. My mother, when I was
about six or seven, sat me down and said, Georgie
watched this movie. You'll never forget it, and you'll watch
it every year during Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And she was right. She's ninety six, and I still
watch this thing.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So sweet. Oh my gosh, that is so sweet.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, I mean, I truly I don't know where I
I well, I have an idea of where I might
be if the angels hadn't come in to my life,
because in my case.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
For sure, it was either a rescue.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I like to think of it as like just a cosmic,
cosmic smack, like a little slap in the slap in
the face, like, hey, we're real time to get.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Do our loved ones become angel? Or is that something
totally different?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, well, I don't think it's something totally different at all. Well,
the word angel comes from the Greek angelus, and you
know that word just means messenger, and so any any
any even people could be angels.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
But I feel like there's different realms.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
With which the the those who are designed for messaging,
you know, can come from.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I don't think they're from just one realm.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So when I think of the traditional angels, I think
of them as our cosmic siblings, are cosmic ancestors. When
I think of ancestors, you know, like like you're you know,
our aunt Sally, I think of her as ancestor, but
also angels their guides there. We have so many helpers,
like our creator has in every direction around us. Was
(18:53):
you look go outside, and you look in every single direction,
there's a messenger there.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Koran Grilloback with us. Psychotherapist, spiritual teacher, channeler and expert
in mystical experiences and spiritual awakening. Koran has helped thousands
of seekers, creators, and leaders activate their spiritual power, transform
their lives, and ignite their souls deeper calling. Her latest
(00:26):
work is called Angel Wealth Magic. She else wrote a
book in twenty nineteen called The Angel Experiment, a twenty
one day magical adventure to heal your life. Koran, welcome back.
Have you been.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I've been pretty good, George, doing my best over here.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm great in Saint Louis. About to go to Charlotte,
North Carolina for a life stage. Soauvin, we've got to
get you to one of those.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Oh my gosh, I'd love to. That would be so fun.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You're on the West coast, right, I'm.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
On the West coast.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, But you know I can get into plane and go.
You know, I'm ready to go. I'm growing to go,
I'm getting I'm getting wild. In my older age is
what I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Saying, the angels are watching you.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That's right, I'm a free bird. I just got back
from New York with my family. That was really nice.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, how did you get involved in angelic stories?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, I mean, you know, it's it's the angels came
upon me. It was an unsuspecting turn of events. And
you know, at the time, I was a psychotherapist and
you know, by all standards, living the average life, except
for I was severely.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Depressed and and.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I had struggled with depression my whole life.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
But it was.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I my friend bought me an angel reading, and I
thought it was just going to be like, oh, let's
go talk to a psychic, and I in one hour,
I left feeling a lighter, brighter. It was like the
first time. I remember the next morning, it was the
first time I did not wish that that day would
(02:12):
be my last. If I could be frank with you,
since I was eighteen, I always kind of had a
bit of a death wish, and so it was Yeah,
so by calling in the angels. So she told me
at the end of at the end of that session,
she said, talk to the angels as if they're real,
because you have a lot of angels and they want
(02:32):
to get your attention, and I said, okay, I'll do that.
So I started talking to the angels and then within
a few days I witnessed just a massive miracle. Essentially,
I prayed for a bird.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I asked the.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Angels to come to to help it. It had a
broken wing, and I witnessed it divide into three tiny
healthy birds and fly away, George, And so that's that's
when I knew that angels were real. And look, I'm
a grounded, rational person. I didn't really come from a
(03:07):
religious background. I cuss all the time, you know, I'm
just like salt of the earth, even just doing my
best right to survive. And then when I saw this,
it was the magic of the moment. In witnessing this,
it wasn't just you know, another like flashback. It was
it was so powerful. I could feel the presence is
(03:28):
the thing, George. Like I could feel the tingles all
over me, wash all over me, and like my hair
felt staticky. And the power of the love is what
was really breathtaking. It wasn't just the visual, it was
the love. And then it was the quality of my
heart and how it changed after that and then after that,
(03:52):
I could hear the voice of something that finally wasn't
a big tyrant and trying to just tear me down
every day. It was a sweet voice, and it had hope.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It wanted me to.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Do weird things, better things, fun things, out of the
box things, and eventually led me into speaking about angels
out loud publicly because I had angel shame for the
first couple of years and I didn't even tell anybody
what had happened, although the personal revolution was becoming very
obvious because I was very like joyful and then and
(04:29):
then people knew that I started having these spiritual abilities
that I didn't have before, these kind of psychic ish
abilities and healing abilities. So I started bringing those things
into my one on one practice with my clients, because
my clients, you know, they thought, you know, I was
already like a pretty pretty badass therapist.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
But then you know, you don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Could you spend tens of thousands of dollars on a
license so like enter angels. It's like a really awkward position,
and you don't you don't don't want to like mess
with all of your licensure, and the board is it's
hard to explain, but I hope, I hope you pick
up when I'm You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
George.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's truly.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, it's awkward, but you know, as someone sitting in
there in front of me, suffering, I would feel the
presence come in, the love start cascading into the room,
and then I would try to just be like angels,
you know, can.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
You just wait, I'm trying to work here.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But eventually I realized, like, okay, I'm just gonna have
to say this out loud.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So then I would say to my clients, all right,
we got some.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know this is awkward, but we have some. I'm
just gonna call them angels and there might be a message,
would you like to hear it? And so no one
ever said no, and it didn't matter. It just didn't matter.
It didn't matter if they were atheists, agnostic, they could
have been Satanists.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
They would have said yes.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Everyone says yes to hearing a message from their angels.
And that's because there's something inside of us, even if
we deny it, that we want to believe and we
want to receive this love that has been given to
each of us. And that's what I didn't freaking know.
I didn't know that everybody has a right to it.
That we do not have to be religious, We do
(06:19):
not have to believe one thing or another or this
or that it is for all people around the world.
And some people call them angels. Other people might call
them ancestors. It doesn't matter what we call them, as
long as we call them. Because miracles are real. And
that first miracle I just told you about, George, that
was just the first of many miracles I've witnessed now
(06:41):
after touching tens of thousands of people's lives around the
world accidentally, because I did start stepping out of the
angel closet, and I did start sharing the work, and
just you know, being willing to risk risk my I
guess my reputation as a therapist, as a serious therapist,
(07:03):
because that, you know it, just I was compelled to
start sharing. And and yeah, miracles are real and anything
people really need to know know that the reality of it.
It's it's the most practical, amazing encounter of my life.
I've had many more amazing encounters since then, but that
(07:27):
was the one that kicked me off and made me
go okay, I can't deny that one.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Let me tell you that interesting story. Cord there was
having a little appetizers with a buddy of mine and
he said, who do you got on the show today?
So I talked about our first two hour guests. I said,
g Edward girlfriend talking about the Federal Reserve and stuff.
And then I said, and then I've got an angel
lady coming on named corn Grillo coming on for the
(07:52):
second half. Just as I said that, three birds landed
on a tree next to me. What we were outside,
I'm in Saint Louis. It was almost eighty degrees today.
It was gorgeous out.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Three birds? And I'm saying to myself, I have never
seen three little birds together, almost like a team. And
they landed just as I mentioned your name. They landed
on a branch and just sat there for a little bit.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And yeah? And then they flew off.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Oh my god, you're making me cry, George again.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Is this is this for?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's for It's for all of us, you guys, It's
always for all of us.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
That's that's right.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mentioned your name and three birds, and you just
mentioned three birds.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It's just to me.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
This is what I've learned, is that when we start
sharing our unique experiences, just like you shared today, you
know you you're willing to share. You know, that's a
strange coincidence, but it's for all of us that they're
really here, they're really present, and when you have the
eyes to see, you begin seeing just like you did.
(09:08):
You see the connections, and you you follow the trail
of beauty as opposed to the trail of distortion.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Fascinating, it really is.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I can't even believe that, George. That's like, Okay, I
need to I need to be laying down. I'm in
a chair. This is dangerous. I'm about to pass out
from the beauty.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Oh, don't pass out. We've got two hours to go,
all right.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'll try not to. Okay, can't promise anything. It's your
fault if I do.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'll have to shout into the phone to wake you up.
All right. How many people have guardian angels that come
to their rescue.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Oh, that's an interesting question, Okay, guardian angels.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's not necessarily just about coming to the rescue. I
want to.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Say every person as not just the guardian angel. When
most people think of Guardian angels, they think of them
very like like kind of kind of scrubbed down. Okay,
Guardian angels are potent, like essentially fire beings.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
They are like powerful.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Warriors, and not just warriors. It's just a very powerful presence,
and everyone has one, and not all of us need rescuing.
That's not why we came here. We didn't come here
to get rescued. We came here to like experience the
fullness of like separation and all of this weird stuff
(10:37):
we do on the planet. We came here to learn,
to grow, and to discover love in an entirely new way.
We came here to collaborate and to to learn how
to respect each other's differences and learning learn.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
How to you know, we just learn. We all we
just came here to learn and play and and just
torture each other with our.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Ridiculousness, but also love each other super hard, and love
the planet and spirit super hard. So so so sometimes
an angel may intervene, but I like to see these
holy Guardian Angels as activators. I have a clearly controversial
(11:22):
view of what they could because the thing I feel
that works the best is looking at your guardian angel
as your beloved, like your most ultimate beloved, your most
delicious counterpart. So someone that like a being that would
just make you swoon. I don't know if you have
any mythical creatures that you watch on TV.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Like, you know, you're like, wow, that elf is just.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Amazing when I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But yeah, so I find that it's the the the
actual arrow sur vibe, like the like the like your fault,
like you're dating or flirting, that that is the kind.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Of chemistry or the magnetism that really brings you into contact.
And not just that, but also child like wonder and awe,
like a child's heart, folk that don't take themselves so seriously.
That can kind of put you into the field of
the guardian. And so, but angels do step in for people.
(12:30):
Sometimes a lot of times they step in, but we
don't notice because it's not how we wanted it to go.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Fascinating. Now you have said all along that angels are
not just helpers, but they're initiators. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes, they are initiators. If you even just think about
that first story that I told you, that was the
first of many iterations of wild, amazing, magical play life.
It's a magical playground, Groundville.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And so.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Angels are I think we have a we have a
problem with how we think about angels. Okay, So angels
are not just fuzzy little kittens. They are powerful beings
that that carried the potency of an aspect of God.
And so I like to think of them as different
(13:25):
faces of God or gateways to God. And so when
you look at esoteric traditions like the Kabbala are some
of these, you know, more ancient traditions, you can see
that angels were often present during you know, major events, like.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
They're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And so there's a reason why there's always an angel
associated with a prophet, like you know, Mohammed. Why angels
came to tell Mary Gabriel, you know, came to tell
Mary you know you have a Messiah in your belly. Right,
It's like there's the angels are there at the edge
of consciousness. So one of the ways that I like
(14:10):
to think of it is that these so the archangels
in particular, are like gatekeepers, and they hold gatekeepers to
gnosis or to to knowledge.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
To wisdom.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
So the difference between just to just to be clear,
so people understand my framework here. I didn't know what
was happening to me back in the day. Okay, I
didn't know why I was having these just cataclysmic in
a good way, spiritual experiences. And and there's a difference
between a mystic and a religious person. A mystic is
(14:42):
someone who needs to experiment, needs to have the experience themselves.
They want direct communion with the Creator. They want to
merge with the divine. They don't want to hear someone
else's Like, it's not good enough if you're just gonna
tell me of something I in order for me to
believe I need to.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Know so.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That that experienced that mystical union.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I forget, Sorry, I forgot your question, but.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I do want to say the mystical route is one
that requires openness and experimentation.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, we're talking about angels not being just helpers but initiators.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, so they can initiate you into your next phase
out of learning, your next phase of I guess in
the in the Eastern philosophies, they'd call it illumination or enlightenment. Okay,
but Western traditions actually have one. So I have a tradition,
a path of initiation, a path of illumination, and angels
(15:46):
are one of the quintessential pieces of that of awakening.
And we've all heard a lot of terms about, oh,
you know, ascension and we're awakening, or a lot of
the people in the New Age communities kind of talk
like that, but it actually has some roots and one
of the bones that I like to pick with some
of the kind of ungrounded forms, not ungrounded in a
(16:11):
bad way. I'm just saying the ones that don't root there,
what's happening to them in tradition is is that they
think that's like that. Even the New Age it's it's
the bs. There's no such thing as New Age. It's
all all of that stuff is old age that we've
forgotten from generations of kind of brainwashing. But there's nothing
(16:35):
new about mediumship. That's ancestor work. That's like indigenous work.
And we're all kind of from the lands, and spirit
has always been fused with the land. The angels are
part of the land, like Christ, if you if you
follow Jesus, for whoever you follow, it's all in the land.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
So, uh yeah, have you have you seen the movie
It's a Wonderful life. I have It's one of my
favorites with Jimmy Stewart, where an angel named Clarence is
sent down to earn his wings, but he's got to
save George Bailey, and it's probably one of the most
(17:14):
emotional movies I've ever seen. My mother, when I was
about six or seven, sat me down and said, Georgie
watched this movie. You'll never forget it, and you'll watch
it every year during Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And she was right. She's ninety six, and I still
watch this thing.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So sweet. Oh my gosh, that is so sweet.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, I mean, I truly I don't know where I
I well, I have an idea of where I might
be if the angels hadn't come in to my life,
because in my case.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
For sure, it was either a rescue.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I like to think of it as like just a cosmic,
cosmic smack, like a little slap in the slap in
the face, like, hey, we're real time to get.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Do our loved ones become angel? Or is that something
totally different?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, well, I don't think it's something totally different at all. Well,
the word angel comes from the Greek angelus, and you
know that word just means messenger, and so any any
any even people could be angels.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
But I feel like there's different realms.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
With which the the those who are designed for messaging,
you know, can come from.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I don't think they're from just one realm.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So when I think of the traditional angels, I think
of them as our cosmic siblings, are cosmic ancestors. When
I think of ancestors, you know, like like you're you know,
our aunt Sally, I think of her as ancestor, but
also angels their guides there. We have so many helpers,
like our creator has in every direction around us. Was
(18:53):
you look go outside, and you look in every single direction,
there's a messenger there.
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