April 23, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and astrologer Jeff Harmon discuss how planetary alignments can help predict events in our lives and in the world, astrological signs he noticed before 9/11 and the Covid pandemic, and his predictions for the future of the United States.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Jeff Harmon back with us. Second generation astrologer, paranormal researcher,
spiritual consultant with fifty years plus experience. He has solved
many paranormal cases involving haunted dwellings, UFO related events and possession,
and has performed forensic work as a sound expert in
(00:26):
association with many federal, state and local government agencies.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Jeffrey, welcome back, Hey George, thanks for having me. Have
you been I've been good. I've been actually busier than
a one armed paper hanger on a windy day, if
you can relate to that one.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Were you doing so many things? What are your favorite areas?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, I'm really busy with clients and I've had
some really interesting people. There was just a recent project
we did with autistic children and looking at the astrology
and finding that they're psychic, that they can actually talk
to distant deceased relatives.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Absolutely phenomenal stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I've been having a good time in a lot
of different areas, really enjoying it and you run.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
The scope of a lot of different paranormal activities, don't you.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, I'm really blessed.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I get contacted by a lot of different clients with
some really interesting situations in their lives. It's really really
kind of again, I consider it a blessing. You know,
it kind of finds me, which is really lucky in
a sense.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know, now, when we say you were a second
generation astrologer, who was the first generation my mother?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It was back in the seventies. I had my four
hundred cubicinch muscle car, you know, in the mid seventies.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know how I was.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Right and that my mother would get real acquate with
my girlfriends. And I said, you know, what are you doing?
I said, is this mother's intuition? She goes, no, I
got their charts. And I said, what do you mean
you got their charts? You know, she was their astrology charts.
And I said, well, come on, that stuff doesn't work right,
And she said, now you better check it out before
(02:15):
you knock it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And I did.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And my mom was a really smart lady. She was
in hemodialysis, started out as a registered nurse and then
became very advanced with hemodialysis and you know, filtering of
kidneys and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And you know, she was right on, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And that got me going and my skepticism soon disappeared
when she started showing me how it worked a lot
of fun.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, you're one of the best out there, Jeff, you've
been doing it for fifty plus years.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Keep going, Thank you, bun Well.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And the more I get to know, the more I
appreciate how no one will ever figure this divine science
out completely. It is truly, in my opinion, the code
of you could say, the divine in creation.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's it's almost as if you will.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We have a spirit reality machine here going on un
planet Earth. When you look at the diversity of life
and the magic of life, and it's it's pretty pretty amazing,
it really is. And I think astrology is an interaction
with that.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
That's that's quite profound.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm still baffled how it works. How does celestial events, planets,
the moon, stars, how does that contribute to things that happen.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, that's a great question, you know, and that's what
got me attracted to the Vedic astrology, because you know,
a lot of people hear the word Vedic astrology, but
it's really its true names called joe tisha, which goes
back to antiquity, the Egyptians, the Chaldeans and the you
know Vedic Joe tishes and the rig Veda and so
(03:54):
many of these ancient texts the Upanishads basically say that
astrology is the interactive consciousness of karma going on with
the soul. It's not us and that's so starkly different
from modern astrology. You know, modern astrologies. Hey, maybe what's.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Your son signed? Right?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I'm always well, you know, when you really study the
ancient Vedic astrology, you realize none of us are are astrology.
We are experiencing it, and it's consciousness and interaction to
it that I think changes it. And it's really a matrix.
I always say, forget Trinderity and Neo and Morpheus, not
(04:34):
that those weren't good movies, but it's really the matrix
of the soul. And I think we're all here for
a very short time when you really look at what
is time, and we're all just sojourners, spiritual beings having
a physical experience. The autistic kids were so interesting to me,
(04:55):
George that there's proof that the mind, the conscious mind,
maybe actually an attenuator. We're actually dumbed down to come
into this physical, dense world. And the autistic kids are
proving that they even though they some of them can't speak.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
But what was fascinating to me is how psychic they were.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And there was like verifiable experiments done with doctors and scientists.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
They're like, there's no way that this is not real.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
These people are actually psychic, and they're doing double blind testing.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And it's absolutely amazing. And this is something called spelling
to speech.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You may have heard of it, but it's a new
system a doctor came up with that's allowing these autistic
children who can't speak to actually type in on this
spelling to speak system and they're now able to communicate.
And some of them are just phenomenally psychic. And that
proves to me that our perception of reality is very
(05:58):
skewed in this modern world, and I think it always
has been. And some of the ancient secret societies knew that,
you know, if we could get out of our own
way with what we think, we think we know and
tap into the upper portions of the soul and spirit,
we are all capable of incredible psychic and intuitive powers.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
How did you get involved in UFO work, Well.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That's another one kind of got involved with me. I
had paranormal experiences since the time I was a little child.
My first one was I was probably not more than
six or seven years old. I had a cage full
of rabbits and actually it was a guinea pig and
had rabbits to but this little guinea pig had died
(06:47):
and I had saw it exactly and I ran downstairs
and the guinea pig was dead exactly the way that
I saw it. And my mother said, you know, you
just asked so traveled if you saw that, because I said,
I just saw this in my dream and it was
exactly like that. And then you know, I started having
a lot of paranormal experiences as a child, and in
(07:11):
the again in the sixties and seventies, I had a
lot of UFO experiences. I actually had a motorcycle shut
down in northern Wisconsin. I saw so many instances of
craft I used to actually map them. In northern Wisconsin
was way up by a town called Eagle River.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You may have heard of it, Saint or Saint Germain.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's way in northern Wisconsin, just south of the Upper Peninsula,
and I saw so much craft up there.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It was actually unbelievable, it really was.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And you know, and then when I got into astrology,
I had a lot of people asking, you know, when
they had abductions, was there any correlation to the astrology,
And it was pretty interesting how it was. And then
I actually got involved with remote viewing groups and they
(08:07):
wanted to know if astrology could help them on the
timing of celestial influences, particularly individuals who were hitting targets
and that would stop hitting targets. And we found some
really interesting research into that. So it's been a lot
of fun. And you know, I absolutely I could sit
(08:28):
here all night and tell you of some of the
paranormal experiences I've had with UFOs and usually in remote places,
which is very.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Interesting, fascinating.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Indeed, back to astrology, does astrology tell you about world events?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Jeff, Well, sure, it sure seems to correlate with him.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yes, there's I've gotten quite involved with historical text texts
that date back to Egypt, Sheldea, the Vedas and stuff
like that, which is phenomenal. And yes, they actually talk
about how there are revolutions of the world is what
they call them, and we deal in months and years
(09:11):
and days and all that. Of course, we have calendars
that have leap years. There's no perfect calendar. And what's
interesting about astrology is it does correlate directly to world events, like,
for instance, World War One happened right next to a
(09:32):
Saturn Pluto conjunction, and then we had COVID came in
right on a Saturn plutal conjunction. Nine to eleven happened
on a Saturn Pluto opposition. COVID also paralleled a very
powerful what we call Collisarpa yoga, which the eclipse points
were involved in that quite heavily. So yeah, I mean,
(09:53):
I've actually I'll never forget. There was a guy on
Wall Street. He was an astrolotor arch Cross, and I
haven't talked to Arsenal long time, but he and I
were on the phone the day before nine to eleven happened,
and we're both saying something's gonna happen because Saturn and
Pluto were opposing each other. And the next day we
(10:13):
saw the tower smoldering, and you know, because I knew
something was going to come down. I think the biggest
one showed up for me. It was twenty twenty. Not
only did we have COVID, but we also had a
two hundred and forty year Saturn Jupiter conjunction, and you could.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
See it in the sky.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And you know, astrologers listening to America going to go, well,
that happens every twenty years, and they're right. But the
ancients knew when the two planets of Jupiter and Saturn
joined in specific configurations in the zodiac, which only happens
once every thousand years, and then then at leapfrogs about
(10:53):
every two hundred and forty years. And I think the
founding forefathers of this country knew that too, because right
about the formation of this country we had a great
conjunction which brought in the Industrial Revolution, and I think
one of the greatest countries ever to be known in
the modern history, and that's the United States and the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and that was pretty
(11:16):
interesting how steep our forefathers were in this knowledge. And
that's actually quite a matter of record too.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
The world seems to be topsy turvy right now, Jeff,
with the Ukraine Russian War, things going on, with the
tariffs and everything else does astrology get into that.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, I can tell you what happened. I was very
like I said twenty twenty. You know, everybody used to
ask me what was happening with the Mayan calendar, and
I couldn't come up with anything.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Remember that wave.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I think I was on your show back in twenty
twelve and we were saying, you know, what's the my
calendar going to bring?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
And I said, I.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Said, I'm more concerned about two twenty forward. And the
reason why we had that very power configuration and what's
going on now is we had that was the center
of Jupiter conjunction. We have Yeurnus sweeping over the Pleiades,
which are known as the Seven Sisters, and of course
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that's the ancient legends that the Greeks had, and of
course Atlas, remember Atlas held up this, He had to
hold up the heavens, and then he cast his seven daughters,
the seven Sisters, into stars. There's a lot of lore
about the Pleiades and the Seven Sisters. Well, Uranus right
now is traversing the Pleiades, and just to give an idea,
(12:40):
might say, okay, great, what does that mean? Well, if
you go back about every eighty four to eighty six years,
Uranus goes around the solar system. It's just a cycle. Well,
let's go back there. That was World War Two. If
you go back eighty four to eighty six years before that,
what do you got.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
You got the Civil War.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
If you go eighty four to eighty six years before that,
you got the Revolutionary War. And if you keep leap
frogging back, you will find major events in the world
of disruption, change, and rebellion. And we are in that
right now. And I've been talking a lot about that
on my podcasts. Essentially, Urness is sweeping over one of
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the most molific fixed stars right on May fourth. It
already did it last summer, that's right when the bullets
were whizzing past Trump's head, and now it's doing it
again this May, and then it's going to sweep over
more of the Pleiades coming the rest of this year. Now,
this is a very dangerous time because what it usually
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does is it brings change, rebellion, and disruption in the world,
and it often corresponds to major calamities in war. Now,
let's hope we don't get that I tend to get
we're going to get some of that. It's not going
to be as bad as it was I think in
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some of the previous wars, in particularly World War two,
only because the rest of the configurations are as strong.
We still have yearness going over this, but we don't
have some of the other really molific aspects like Pluto
and Saturn aspects. So let's hope and pray that that
(14:26):
is the case. But I do see dissension coming in
basically next month, I mean May fourth, we're.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Weeks away from that. We're here, that's right, Yeah, we're here.
Does the Moon play a part in any of this?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Jeff Oh god, yeah, yeah, the moon is such a
mysterious satellite, you know. And when you and I've had
such a wonderful time with so many people in the
Uthology place, And of course I was hoping to run
into you last year contact in the desert, but we
(14:58):
kind of pass, mispass. But anyways, I heard you sang there, George,
and your hell of a good singer from what everybody
tells me, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Jeffrey, had fun. I'll be in contact this year too.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Oh good, excellent, excellently.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Not everybody said George is a good singer, but anyhow, yes,
what's going on is clearly it's a very dangerous time
right now, and I hope, you know, we get through
this without any major calamities, and you know, clearly.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
We're in it right now.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But on the other hand, I'm actually excited about what's
happening with the United States. I was really worried about
the last four or five years we had. The United
States had a Pluto return on its birth chart.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
And what does that mean? In plain English?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That literally means utter destruction or you're the phoenix rising
out of the ashes. And not to get into the
politics and everything, but I think what's happening right now,
even though it's traumatic in the terrorists and all, I
get that this is going to have an exceedingly positive outcome.
I don't know if you heard, but there was a
(16:14):
Supreme Court adjudication here just last year that released a
tremendous amount of resources to access for the United States.
It could be worth it's an old trust. The forty
second Congress apparently had put this away, and there was
a gentleman I forget his name, but he was talking
(16:34):
about it how it literally could release up to one
hundred and fifty trillion dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I mean talk about paying off the national debt. That'll
do it right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
His name was Jim Rich Rickards and he's actually with
the was with the CIA.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And he's been on the program before there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, he probably talked about it. I actually did an
interrogation on that. And that's something here we're going to
be doing later in the show is people can ask
questions interrogation. Astrology is one of the oldest types of astrology,
and it proves, in my opinion, that our consciousness is
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an interactive consciousness with the celestial heavens. And so what
it is you just cast a chart. It's divinational and
I cast a chart. Is this one hundred and fifty
trillion dollars?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You know? Trust real? Is it? Does it exist? Or
it's just fictitious?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And I get now it's real, and I actually get
that this could be that quote unquote golden age that
we're hearing about.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
That could happen.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And I get the United States is going to be
the phoenix rising out of the ashes based on the
progressions in its birth chart of the United States.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Jeff Harmon back with us. Second generation astrologer, paranormal researcher,
spiritual consultant with fifty years plus experience. He has solved
many paranormal cases involving haunted dwellings, UFO related events and possession,
and has performed forensic work as a sound expert in
(00:26):
association with many federal, state and local government agencies.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Jeffrey, welcome back, Hey George, thanks for having me. Have
you been I've been good. I've been actually busier than
a one armed paper hanger on a windy day, if
you can relate to that one.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Were you doing so many things? What are your favorite areas?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, I'm really busy with clients and I've had
some really interesting people. There was just a recent project
we did with autistic children and looking at the astrology
and finding that they're psychic, that they can actually talk
to distant deceased relatives.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Absolutely phenomenal stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I've been having a good time in a lot
of different areas, really enjoying it and you run.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
The scope of a lot of different paranormal activities, don't you.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, I'm really blessed.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I get contacted by a lot of different clients with
some really interesting situations in their lives. It's really really
kind of again, I consider it a blessing. You know,
it kind of finds me, which is really lucky in
a sense.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know, now, when we say you were a second
generation astrologer, who was the first generation my mother?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It was back in the seventies. I had my four
hundred cubicinch muscle car, you know, in the mid seventies.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know how I was.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Right and that my mother would get real acquate with
my girlfriends. And I said, you know, what are you doing?
I said, is this mother's intuition? She goes, no, I
got their charts. And I said, what do you mean
you got their charts? You know, she was their astrology charts.
And I said, well, come on, that stuff doesn't work right,
And she said, now you better check it out before
(02:15):
you knock it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And I did.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And my mom was a really smart lady. She was
in hemodialysis, started out as a registered nurse and then
became very advanced with hemodialysis and you know, filtering of
kidneys and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And you know, she was right on, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And that got me going and my skepticism soon disappeared
when she started showing me how it worked a lot
of fun.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, you're one of the best out there, Jeff, you've
been doing it for fifty plus years.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Keep going, Thank you, bun Well.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And the more I get to know, the more I
appreciate how no one will ever figure this divine science
out completely. It is truly, in my opinion, the code
of you could say, the divine in creation.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's it's almost as if you will.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We have a spirit reality machine here going on un
planet Earth. When you look at the diversity of life
and the magic of life, and it's it's pretty pretty amazing,
it really is. And I think astrology is an interaction
with that.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
That's that's quite profound.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm still baffled how it works. How does celestial events, planets,
the moon, stars, how does that contribute to things that happen.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, that's a great question, you know, and that's what
got me attracted to the Vedic astrology, because you know,
a lot of people hear the word Vedic astrology, but
it's really its true names called joe tisha, which goes
back to antiquity, the Egyptians, the Chaldeans and the you
know Vedic Joe tishes and the rig Veda and so
(03:54):
many of these ancient texts the Upanishads basically say that
astrology is the interactive consciousness of karma going on with
the soul. It's not us and that's so starkly different
from modern astrology. You know, modern astrologies. Hey, maybe what's.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Your son signed? Right?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I'm always well, you know, when you really study the
ancient Vedic astrology, you realize none of us are are astrology.
We are experiencing it, and it's consciousness and interaction to
it that I think changes it. And it's really a matrix.
I always say, forget Trinderity and Neo and Morpheus, not
(04:34):
that those weren't good movies, but it's really the matrix
of the soul. And I think we're all here for
a very short time when you really look at what
is time, and we're all just sojourners, spiritual beings having
a physical experience. The autistic kids were so interesting to me,
(04:55):
George that there's proof that the mind, the conscious mind,
maybe actually an attenuator. We're actually dumbed down to come
into this physical, dense world. And the autistic kids are
proving that they even though they some of them can't speak.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
But what was fascinating to me is how psychic they were.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And there was like verifiable experiments done with doctors and scientists.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
They're like, there's no way that this is not real.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
These people are actually psychic, and they're doing double blind testing.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And it's absolutely amazing. And this is something called spelling
to speech.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You may have heard of it, but it's a new
system a doctor came up with that's allowing these autistic
children who can't speak to actually type in on this
spelling to speak system and they're now able to communicate.
And some of them are just phenomenally psychic. And that
proves to me that our perception of reality is very
(05:58):
skewed in this modern world, and I think it always
has been. And some of the ancient secret societies knew that,
you know, if we could get out of our own
way with what we think, we think we know and
tap into the upper portions of the soul and spirit,
we are all capable of incredible psychic and intuitive powers.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
How did you get involved in UFO work, Well.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That's another one kind of got involved with me. I
had paranormal experiences since the time I was a little child.
My first one was I was probably not more than
six or seven years old. I had a cage full
of rabbits and actually it was a guinea pig and
had rabbits to but this little guinea pig had died
(06:47):
and I had saw it exactly and I ran downstairs
and the guinea pig was dead exactly the way that
I saw it. And my mother said, you know, you
just asked so traveled if you saw that, because I said,
I just saw this in my dream and it was
exactly like that. And then you know, I started having
a lot of paranormal experiences as a child, and in
(07:11):
the again in the sixties and seventies, I had a
lot of UFO experiences. I actually had a motorcycle shut
down in northern Wisconsin. I saw so many instances of
craft I used to actually map them. In northern Wisconsin
was way up by a town called Eagle River.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You may have heard of it, Saint or Saint Germain.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's way in northern Wisconsin, just south of the Upper Peninsula,
and I saw so much craft up there.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It was actually unbelievable, it really was.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And you know, and then when I got into astrology,
I had a lot of people asking, you know, when
they had abductions, was there any correlation to the astrology,
And it was pretty interesting how it was. And then
I actually got involved with remote viewing groups and they
(08:07):
wanted to know if astrology could help them on the
timing of celestial influences, particularly individuals who were hitting targets
and that would stop hitting targets. And we found some
really interesting research into that. So it's been a lot
of fun. And you know, I absolutely I could sit
(08:28):
here all night and tell you of some of the
paranormal experiences I've had with UFOs and usually in remote places,
which is very.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Interesting, fascinating.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Indeed, back to astrology, does astrology tell you about world events?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Jeff, Well, sure, it sure seems to correlate with him.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yes, there's I've gotten quite involved with historical text texts
that date back to Egypt, Sheldea, the Vedas and stuff
like that, which is phenomenal. And yes, they actually talk
about how there are revolutions of the world is what
they call them, and we deal in months and years
(09:11):
and days and all that. Of course, we have calendars
that have leap years. There's no perfect calendar. And what's
interesting about astrology is it does correlate directly to world events, like,
for instance, World War One happened right next to a
(09:32):
Saturn Pluto conjunction, and then we had COVID came in
right on a Saturn plutal conjunction. Nine to eleven happened
on a Saturn Pluto opposition. COVID also paralleled a very
powerful what we call Collisarpa yoga, which the eclipse points
were involved in that quite heavily. So yeah, I mean,
(09:53):
I've actually I'll never forget. There was a guy on
Wall Street. He was an astrolotor arch Cross, and I
haven't talked to Arsenal long time, but he and I
were on the phone the day before nine to eleven happened,
and we're both saying something's gonna happen because Saturn and
Pluto were opposing each other. And the next day we
(10:13):
saw the tower smoldering, and you know, because I knew
something was going to come down. I think the biggest
one showed up for me. It was twenty twenty. Not
only did we have COVID, but we also had a
two hundred and forty year Saturn Jupiter conjunction, and you could.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
See it in the sky.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And you know, astrologers listening to America going to go, well,
that happens every twenty years, and they're right. But the
ancients knew when the two planets of Jupiter and Saturn
joined in specific configurations in the zodiac, which only happens
once every thousand years, and then then at leapfrogs about
(10:53):
every two hundred and forty years. And I think the
founding forefathers of this country knew that too, because right
about the formation of this country we had a great
conjunction which brought in the Industrial Revolution, and I think
one of the greatest countries ever to be known in
the modern history, and that's the United States and the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and that was pretty
(11:16):
interesting how steep our forefathers were in this knowledge. And
that's actually quite a matter of record too.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
The world seems to be topsy turvy right now, Jeff,
with the Ukraine Russian War, things going on, with the
tariffs and everything else does astrology get into that.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, I can tell you what happened. I was very
like I said twenty twenty. You know, everybody used to
ask me what was happening with the Mayan calendar, and
I couldn't come up with anything.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Remember that wave.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I think I was on your show back in twenty
twelve and we were saying, you know, what's the my
calendar going to bring?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
And I said, I.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Said, I'm more concerned about two twenty forward. And the
reason why we had that very power configuration and what's
going on now is we had that was the center
of Jupiter conjunction. We have Yeurnus sweeping over the Pleiades,
which are known as the Seven Sisters, and of course
(12:15):
that's the ancient legends that the Greeks had, and of
course Atlas, remember Atlas held up this, He had to
hold up the heavens, and then he cast his seven daughters,
the seven Sisters, into stars. There's a lot of lore
about the Pleiades and the Seven Sisters. Well, Uranus right
now is traversing the Pleiades, and just to give an idea,
(12:40):
might say, okay, great, what does that mean? Well, if
you go back about every eighty four to eighty six years,
Uranus goes around the solar system. It's just a cycle. Well,
let's go back there. That was World War Two. If
you go back eighty four to eighty six years before that,
what do you got.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
You got the Civil War.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
If you go eighty four to eighty six years before that,
you got the Revolutionary War. And if you keep leap
frogging back, you will find major events in the world
of disruption, change, and rebellion. And we are in that
right now. And I've been talking a lot about that
on my podcasts. Essentially, Urness is sweeping over one of
(13:19):
the most molific fixed stars right on May fourth. It
already did it last summer, that's right when the bullets
were whizzing past Trump's head, and now it's doing it
again this May, and then it's going to sweep over
more of the Pleiades coming the rest of this year. Now,
this is a very dangerous time because what it usually
(13:43):
does is it brings change, rebellion, and disruption in the world,
and it often corresponds to major calamities in war. Now,
let's hope we don't get that I tend to get
we're going to get some of that. It's not going
to be as bad as it was I think in
(14:04):
some of the previous wars, in particularly World War two,
only because the rest of the configurations are as strong.
We still have yearness going over this, but we don't
have some of the other really molific aspects like Pluto
and Saturn aspects. So let's hope and pray that that
(14:26):
is the case. But I do see dissension coming in
basically next month, I mean May fourth, we're.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Weeks away from that. We're here, that's right, Yeah, we're here.
Does the Moon play a part in any of this?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Jeff Oh god, yeah, yeah, the moon is such a
mysterious satellite, you know. And when you and I've had
such a wonderful time with so many people in the
Uthology place, And of course I was hoping to run
into you last year contact in the desert, but we
(14:58):
kind of pass, mispass. But anyways, I heard you sang there, George,
and your hell of a good singer from what everybody
tells me, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Jeffrey, had fun. I'll be in contact this year too.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Oh good, excellent, excellently.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Not everybody said George is a good singer, but anyhow, yes,
what's going on is clearly it's a very dangerous time
right now, and I hope, you know, we get through
this without any major calamities, and you know, clearly.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
We're in it right now.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But on the other hand, I'm actually excited about what's
happening with the United States. I was really worried about
the last four or five years we had. The United
States had a Pluto return on its birth chart.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
And what does that mean? In plain English?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That literally means utter destruction or you're the phoenix rising
out of the ashes. And not to get into the
politics and everything, but I think what's happening right now,
even though it's traumatic in the terrorists and all, I
get that this is going to have an exceedingly positive outcome.
I don't know if you heard, but there was a
(16:14):
Supreme Court adjudication here just last year that released a
tremendous amount of resources to access for the United States.
It could be worth it's an old trust. The forty
second Congress apparently had put this away, and there was
a gentleman I forget his name, but he was talking
(16:34):
about it how it literally could release up to one
hundred and fifty trillion dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I mean talk about paying off the national debt. That'll
do it right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
His name was Jim Rich Rickards and he's actually with
the was with the CIA.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And he's been on the program before there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, he probably talked about it. I actually did an
interrogation on that. And that's something here we're going to
be doing later in the show is people can ask
questions interrogation. Astrology is one of the oldest types of astrology,
and it proves, in my opinion, that our consciousness is
(17:16):
an interactive consciousness with the celestial heavens. And so what
it is you just cast a chart. It's divinational and
I cast a chart. Is this one hundred and fifty
trillion dollars?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You know? Trust real? Is it? Does it exist? Or
it's just fictitious?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And I get now it's real, and I actually get
that this could be that quote unquote golden age that
we're hearing about.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
That could happen.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And I get the United States is going to be
the phoenix rising out of the ashes based on the
progressions in its birth chart of the United States.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
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