44VATO "This Record Label paid me to talk bad about this other label"

44Vato talks about everything from his personal life away from social media and past jobs to becoming one of the main voices of the online latino community. 44Vato told us things he's never talked about like industry secrets and practices not many people know about.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll tell you being a contact creator is harder than
not just but being a truck driver, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Because I like that what I was doing, like certain.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Uh, I'll be honest with you, guys, Bro, I was
gonna pay twenty eight an hour. Bro, That's that's the
most I was getting, Like twenty an hour.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
But has anyone threatened you to like take a pose
down or like hey, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Take your channel down or some ship or like I
know who you are.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I've been paid by other record labels to post about
the other recordabe.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Oh will there will ever be a time where you
take off the mask and you try to build like
your brand without I.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Was thinking that podcasts, I'm gonna take it by.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
My mask down, wish my box. What's up, guys, Welcome

(01:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
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a special guest, something super expected.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I've been telling everyone about this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
We had a where I get all my news from
forty four bottles.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Hey, but before we start, I do take a shot. Yep,
my boy all the way from it. I think you're
killing him.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
My boy here always the.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'll take it a little take a little bit, or
maybe like put the camera and then he takes a
show on the for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
I feel like knowing us, we might leave his face.
I just gotta ask you.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well, first of all, Bro, we wanted to thank you
for taking the time to be here. Honestly, you've been
killing it. Like they say that, we see a lot
of your news. I think it's very funny. I think
a lot of people could relate to it. And I
feel like that's why you're successful because it's super relatable,
super fun. And congrats on your success and how you been, Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I've been good.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
God is good.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You know what I'm saying. I just just get up, bro,
work hard every day. You know what I'm saying, Thank
God every day, and uh, I get to come on
platforms like like your guys is bro. You guys are
you guys are probably one of my favorites bro. For
you guys are leading. Actually, I think it's fact Bro,
that you guys are leading the regional Mexican genre like
news Brom, you guys we're trying to.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I mean I feel like we're both leading. You know.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, a lot of people blame us for the you know,
the pestl Fista.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's like we're playing forty four about those faults.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
No, it's not your fault. I mean whatever's in the
but whatever gets put out there, like we just report
on it.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
But I honestly would like to blame us for some reasons.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, And I feel like, if anything, we're pretty like
chill about it too.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, there's so much more should we can talk about it,
but I think we keep pretty chill ogrue. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
A question that I had for you, bro, is like,
how do you get into like the social media game.
I feel like, you know, I feel like you definitely
had like an impact in like what you're doing, and
I feel like your ship goes pretty viral, you know.
You said, like, yeah, like how do you get into
the content game? Like the whole idea of you know,
the masks the news, Like how's that?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Oh, like so like the mask thing just happened? If
for like an accident really, Like I was like showing
my face on live, bro, because I had reached like
one hundred thousand subscribed or followers on Instagram. And what happened, bro,
is I promised everybody I was gonna go live and
I was gonna show my face, and I actually did
show my face. And then the next day I went
live again for some reason, bro, and I don't know,

(03:44):
I don't know why, but like my friend gave me
an orange mask. It's not the same one because that
would be so dirty, but it was a different one, bro,
And so I just put it on one day and
I went live, and it's like everybody forgot what happened
the day before?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Who is he?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Who is he? Like this is crazy, bro, Like yea, yeah,
don't like, no one screenshot it and nobody screenshoted everybody.
Everybody forgot and so I just I just kept at it.
And it's like something that you do that just went
too far, but not in a bad way. This time
was like in a good way. So that's that's what's
going on right now.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
But did you so you said you did like a
face revealed one hundred k or like did you show
not your show your faces before, like what do you wear?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Oh, so I just showed my face, bro, Like I
mean it's like if you know, you know, like even
even they know that I walked in here and now
I had my face maskull they haven't even seen me
broad the So I used to show my face, bro,
But it's because I used to have another Instagram account.

(04:44):
This was maybe like twenty nineteen when I hit it,
and so that was the first time I ever showed
my face in Luego. They took that that page down, bro,
no doubt. I mean that pages doesn't exist no more
I have. I have other pages it on Instagram, but
it's nothing like there.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
There is no one I remember.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean I look at comments from from videos. I'm
obviously like a huge fan.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
But people used to say that you used to reveal
your face when you used to make rap content or
something like that. Yeah, bro, like you used.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
To wrap or like report on rap like that.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
One guy like you know how what what's the guy
that be asking him a question? Is like the fuck
you know this.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was thinking of.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think he's gonna walk out right now.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Mex agaan on war Bro. Honestly, like that like, like,
this is the first time anybody's ever ever asked me that.
But like, if you do your research, you might you
might find some stuff. It might be me, it might
not be me, you know what I'm saying, But went
a little viral, Bro, We might have went a little
a little viral with some stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Damn, that's dope. I feel like the love for music
always brings people together. My question is like, did you
start with the music content or like just like talking
about very general like cheese and stuff, or is not
like they're just stuff that happens, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
So I think like with forty four Vato itself, Bro,
I was just doing general.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
News in general.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was okay when it was like during COVID talking
to Covida, I was talking about Ebola and then and
then like but but the real me was like always
talking about Mexican stuff. Mexican stuff. I was always talking
about like that RASA, yeahsa, that they're doing this on

(06:27):
this certain day. So I would just like do this
certain content. It was sometimes go viral, B. And I
think from there I kind of just started gravitating towards
what started working, Bro, and then what started working for
me with just cheese men, regional Mexican genre, even Mexican
rappers and all that, you know, just whatever Mexican bro.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
And yeah, and I know like right now you're making
like you're probably making like a bag from like all
these videos, broe minute something else.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
And but what were you doing before? You know, like
social media?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh so I have my cdo bro. A lot of
people don't know that commercial driver liscense. So I was
doing that like two years ago. That's a lot of
people don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is that you do both?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, Bro, I was actually making videos like while I
was driving.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's like yeah, He's like, don't say they're gonna take
it away?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah no, bro, But but I'm being for real though.
So like if your truck driver, you know that there's
a lot of waiting time. Like when you're driving, you
park and then you just like chill, bro, You're just
on your phone and you're just waiting to get caught up.
So sometimes you can wait like two three hours. So
in that two three hours, just like you either have options,
you can score your phone or you're gonna work on

(07:43):
some stuff. And so for me, I was just like
I just trying to make some money.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know can get off the road.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, bro, something like that.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
And where does the name come from?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like I live like in different cities, right, And so
every single time, bro, that I lived in a certain place,
there always was a quardant that guatro in the thing
like I don't even believe in angel numbers, but like
it just was. It's just like a cool fact, you
know what I'm saying. And so it was like, guys,
like it was in uh Dallas forty fourteen Pringle and
then Denver too, forty fourth Street.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Were you born in Mexico?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I was born in forty four wheel, Bro, forty four wheel?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes you heard no, No, I heard that.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You guys gotta go sometime. Bro, I'm gonna bte you guys.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Elaborate, elaborate.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh brother, I just got the code. I just got bro. No, Yes,
who's that?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Always you know how we're making the post cancel that's.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Nah scared on the part of see you guys are
seeing what the behind the scenes? Just answer what if?
Because what if it's not canceled and we just posted?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Are you a color? You guys posted it already?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, damn, damn, I feel.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Like no, she's gonna text us. Watch she didn't even
text first, like, Hey, what you're doing?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah? I got the call too.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Damn damn.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
She called both you guys back to back.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Why she never call you?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I say, hitting identity like forty four.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's crazy from.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
A little little littles around there. But I don't, I like,
rather prefer not to say it because if I say it,
like I still have like all my family like stuff,
it's just kind of like I don't know if it's safe,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I feel like everything that goes on in Mexico is
kind of like it's just crazy, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, bro, So, I mean it's kind of risky.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I think it's really cool that you started, you know,
with your cd L and then you you know, basically
made that that transition to content. And I feel like,
I think a lot of people try to find that
that niche, you know, try to find that niche into
making content. How has like making content like changed your life,
you know, and for the better or the worse?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Bro? I mean, bro, like if I wasn't making content,
I wouldn't even be in this room right now. That's
how crazy it is, you know what I'm saying, and
like yesterday I had like two or three interviews, and
then like today I have like two more interviews. Well
I think I'm gonna interview one person, another person's gona
interview me. So it's just like, Bro, it does change
that crazy because like a person that say, lands at

(10:22):
the airport is not just gonna get hit up by
you know, I'm saying, just be like, hey, people can
pull up. Just doesn't happen. So I mean, I'm just like,
I'm grateful, bro, for all the opportunities that like I'm
able to get because I know it doesn't come to
the regular person. Bro, Like I'm still regular, but like
to just normal to a random person.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, because you have a platform people, and I think
a lot of people look at your page to see
like what's going on, you know, and I think that's important.
I feel like sometimes it's very difficult to get right information,
you know, how they say allegedly and you know, stuff
like that kind of happened. I had a question, but
I kind of.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I mean, I mean, you had your CDEO license and everything.
You make pretty good money, like for having that right.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'll be honest with you, guys, Bro, I was getting
paid twenty eight an hour, bro. That's that's the most
I was getting, like twenty eight an hour, but it
was about five, I think four thousand of for a
forty hour work week per month. Bro. So that's how
much I was how much I was making. And so
when I realized that I could make more than that
off of just social media, and if I quit my

(11:26):
job knowing that I could dedicate even more time to
what I was doing, then I knew. I knew it
was possible. That's that was kind of like my motivation, bro.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So even now, I'm just like I still have the
option to even go work and just like prepare my
videos and then just post them while I'm working. But
I just don't know, bro, I like waking up at
the time that I wake up at.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, you kind of like adapted to the lifestyle already,
you know, just pick up the phone, make some content.
I mean, what does your everyday like life look like
now that you're just making content?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It's like, look, today, I think I woke up, bro.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I didn't no breakfast, bro, And I think I just
woke up and I was like scrolling for like take
thirty minutes just like looking up for like content, and
then I just got on my phone, bro, and I
busted out three videos. Out three videos, and then the
fourth one I think I had already shot it the
night before, like right before I went to bed. So

(12:20):
that's like and then and then right now everything's like
all scheduled to go. Oh okay, and now I have
like have like two more videos.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
So that's what your schedule looks like, like posting wise,
you wake up, you see if there's like any crazy
shit that happened overnight, and then like that's kind of
like the one of the first things to do, like
make the videos.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, so okay, bro, so but in the nighttime. So
the night before I'm also preparing like all my video topics.
So it'll be like one, two, three, four, five, and
I'll do five of them. But then the next day
some of those might get like some of those topics
might get deleted because I'm just like they're not good enough,
they're not urgent. And so if if it is not urgent,

(12:58):
I'm just like it's not gonna get no views.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Drafts they hate the drafts.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
But see the problem is whenever you think that a
video is not gonna do good and it ends up
being one of your most successful videos.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
That's you're like doubted whether the Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's the risk.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
It's kind of like doesn't you know we take each
other and I'm like, what are we gonna post tomorrow?
And then we just like look for topics in the morning.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
I feel like sometimes maybe people think that social media is.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Like it was like, oh you got lucky or super
chill or like, you know, get a real job.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
But I think people.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Don't know how difficult. Maybe not so now it is difficult,
But what am I to say? Like so time consuming
because it's twenty four seven, Like you go to sleave
watching TikTok to see if anything or you know, like
checking some sources for a video, you know, running the
idea by you know, by each other to see if
it's gonna work out, and then you know, you wake up,
like you get you get to work, and like you

(13:48):
think about this NonStop. I feel like I don't know
twenty four seven damn.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
And kind of going off of your question controversial question,
what's harder nine to five or social media?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you being a content creator
is harder than not just but being a truck driver, bro,
because I.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like that what I was doing like certain, certain.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Right, yes, certain, But I feel like you kind of
said that because like being a truck driver is like
not the easiest.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I think being a truck driver is like the
easiest job, bro. Like I think it's like the easy Damn.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
I was actually gonna be a truck driver, like behind
the wheel.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I should have because you're not gonna make for kicks.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Certain certain companies though they require you to do more stuff.
So maybe I just you know, looked out and got
me a nice little job where I don't really have
to get out and go you know what I'm saying
with you know what I'm saying. But there's like a
bro get out. You know. I was in there like napping, bro, posting,
you know what I'm saying, Just like Bro, I started
picking away. Bro.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
You know, he living good, That's what he's saying. He's
living good.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I feel like that's a really good question too, because
I remember the someone from like These Foods made a
video and he got so much hate for it, and
I was like, I mean, like before this whole like
podcast ship and like we had a band I used
to work at.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
They'll talking, so I was like, don't talk.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Was easy as fuck, Like you just like clock in,
you just take some orders, bag the you know, like
that's super easy.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I think I thought.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I was like, if you compared to that construction like
roofing and shit like that, that's like that's.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it's because I.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
But I think maybe sometimes it's not necessarily like the
work that you're actually doing, maybe the hard part or
maybe the part that people haven't realized this, like that's
all you're gonna do for the rest of your life,
you know, bag orders and things like that. And we're
not saying it's any less. Any any job is, you know,
where you're not stealing anything, like you're earning your money.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Like, of course that's good.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
But I think there's there's definitely some jobs that are
more demanding than others.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, because when it's like they'll Taco needs to work
as soon as I clock off, it's like whatever happened here?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's like they'll talk, I'm going home. We move into like.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Hey, five o'clock, five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Wait what you say?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah no, but I think I really want to mention that,
you know, I respect the people that take the risk
because a nine to five, you're going to get that
consistent check.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
But with this it can.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
End any time any day, and if it doesn't work
or like your cloud and or your success and like
onto the next thing, you know, you have to be prepared.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
So I respect people that take the risk. Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
I think I mean, I think I respect all people
that like make it happen, you know, with whatever which
way that they decided so you know, provide for their
families or themselves. I think that's definitely like what it's
the way to go, you know, just like make it
happen by any means necessary. But yeah, some I feel
like sometimes people think like, oh, like our jobs easiest
ever you know, yeah, some aspects of it are easy.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
But what I'll see like.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Damn, And how do you navigate like your your workflow?
Like do you ever feel like, oh shit, like I'm
slacking off, or like do you ever take breaks in
in terms of like I've been working hard, I'm gonna
take a little break, I'm taking vacation, Like what's that like?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Like yesterday, bro, was the first day, And that's just
solid question. Bro, Yesterday was the first day that I
posted only one video, bro in like the last I
don't know, four months the last I've been doing three
to five y'all see one guy posting three to five videos?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
How many videos have we averaged on Saturday and Sunday?
This is not even locked in, bro, Bro. I feel
like you know how we.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Were talking about, like, oh, you know, we were at
the fast food by time at five pm? That you
mean after six pm on Friday, and I get a
text back from you within the hour.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Nope.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
If you want to grab a beer yet.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Now, Jason, I am either work in or drink.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
You don't bother me for I think it's definitely interesting
how everybody has like their own workflow. I think there's
people out there that really really grind, and I think
it's to be respected, you know, so the props to you, like, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
The thing about it is like I really do ten
videos a day, bro, but I oh, but I only
post five.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, okay, I'll do ten, but I only.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like single down, you know, so like I still do it.
But I'm just like now, but I'm gonna do I'm
going to run the best ones, so maybe I'll be bigger, Bro,
I'll just posted every single one, but I just I
don't really post.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah. How long does it take to do a video?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh that's a good question. It just it really depends, bro,
because sometimes you need more preparation in the field, and
then sometimes it's just a lot of yeapping. You don't
have that much information. So that's why like in the
video yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, the word count one hundred essay, it han't been.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Started, and you just repeating the same I like that's funny.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I mean you about everything that happens, you know with
influencers artists, like just basically anything.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Has anyone threatened you.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
To like take a pose down or like hey I'm
a take your channel down or some ship or like
I know who you are.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's a it's honestly a sad thing. I don't know
if it's a sad thing. But there's a lot of competition, bro,
Like in the regional Mexican genre, and like I've been
paid by other record labels to post about the other
record label. Oh no, I know it's so, but I'm

(19:32):
not gonna say who. I can't air them out. But
it's a lot of you know, it's never know is
that whenever I get these messages, it's always from like
a private account followers, you know what I'm saying. But
I'm like, if you if you paid me to do
a video on this other person, like I'm just assuming

(19:54):
that you're working for them.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, you know, I think I think it's funny too,
because like I feel like sometimes like I could tell
because sometimes we know information that's not out yet, and
then I'll be like the forty but I was like,
you know what, like.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, maybe you guys don't understand too much or
follow a train of thought a little bit, but we
do this twenty four to seven, and I feel like
you start, like in anything, you know, if you do
it all day every day, you pick up on little
things and they're like some some fish going.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
On here, you know, Like you know how they say unemployed.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
News unemployed, no use for the unemployed.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, I feel like it goes to show that there's
competition and people are willing to do your little dirty
something whatever they need to do to be number one
or like keep the rep like their their like representation,
like like clean you.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Know, yeah, yeah, damn that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Honestly, I mean I don't know if maybe you guys
wouldn't communicate, but I don't think anybody has.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I was gonna mention one time someone did messages and
told us like, hey, this artist paint for use, check
this out. But since we he didn't like pay attention
to that, I feel like they just realized that we weren't, like.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
We weren't about that. Yeah, I mean, if you throw
it back, come on, you gotta if it has a
zero behind.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
It, no, no, no, at least find the whole music
industry looking at like.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
That's the thing about it too, is like when these people,
when these insights sources have like hit me up, They'll
be like, oh, can you post it? And I'm just like, yeah,
post it, and then like how much he charged? Bro?
Sometimes I'll do like double because I'm just like, let
me see, like watch somebody big, bro. Because if not,
well they're just gonna be like, oh, let's just do
like something something. Now these does have money, bro, I
feel like record label, I know that I'm dealing with

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somebody who has money.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
It could literally be like a big artist and I
just wouldn't know, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But then also too, is do you feel like it's
risky that this page Wasser followers is telling you this
information about this other label or artist, and you're like,
damn it, like is that even true?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, oh well, well, well the thing about it is
that they never give inside information. They'll just kind of
go off of like like what another post is saying,
but they want shoot to make it even bigger. There's
information that's already out there. Just blow it up.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, because I was gonna say that too,
maybe something that a lot of people don't think about,
but you know, maybe else that we do make videos,
like three thousand things happen a day, so and like
he said, he makes ten videos a day, narrows it
down to the top five. Some stuff is just not
going to make the cut and like maybe that should
have you know, or like but at the end of
the day, like what doesn't have to because we have
free will, we have to pick what the fuck we want.

(22:35):
But in that case, they're like, hey, you know, like
there's that info already out there, help me kind of
blow it up, or like help me spread this room.
Maybe not this rumor, but like this info, maybe this
other person might not like shit.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
And I always got to watch it too, bro, because
I don't. I don't want to want to get shooed obviously,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So if it's like
something that I know that I won't get what is
it called.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
A different definition of character?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Like I don't want to like defame anybody, So I
always watch it. I was watch it. It has to
be information that's already out there, and I always use
the fans are saying.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, so everything's a legend, you know. I feel like
that's kind of like you're seeped in it. I think
it's dope that you know, you you learn to protect
yourself because the end of the day, like you're built,
you're protecting your income, your brand. And like a question
that I had is has a record label ever try
to like sign you as like.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
A like for that right now?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
But I couldn't. I couldn't say who. I'll tell you
guys off camera. But yeah, bro, I think that right now,
it's like a lot of like pulling on this side
and then the other person's pulling on that side. They're
trying to they're trying to they're trying to grab me, bro.
But I don't know if I want to like be
locked down to something.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, you want to be like independent, I think you will.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Just like lock down like a contract and just be like, hey,
let's let's let's run these ten twenty videos. You know
what I'm saying something like that, Bro, I don't want
something worse like oh a year, two five years, you
know what I'm saying, like something crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I don't know if I want that, like like Neon.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Have you seen that clip of Neon that he's saying
like fire and then what are you doing? It's like,
I don't know for life.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
How much a million we do? That is.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, I think that's super interesting. I think the whole
economics of being an influencer being a content creator. Oh
and that distinction too, you know, between like influencing and
content creator. I think it has like really blown up
and it's something new. Maybe not every I mean nothing
given us, you know, were every day we still learn
something new and how it's actually possible and maybe not

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something like that. Very few select people get to achieve
where it's like to live off the content.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's a hard thing, you know. I'm grateful though, because
just like me, just like you guys, we don't really
have to get like super creative and like wo Wendy
your tease, Bro, they have to go out there and
be like, hey, I gotta go to a bowling alley.
I gotta go to this event, this event. Like we're
literally just reporting off of what other people are doing.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Sit down.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
I think as long as you have like a creative
way to put out the information and like people have
fun with it, Like I think you'd be good, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, And I feel like it's a pretty cool thing
too that like something that we do because let's just say, them,
when they they do something, they have to like maintain
hopefully not fall off.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
But like we just report on like whatever's next.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, I think that's the biggest blessing to be honest,
Like we're just talking about what's popping.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
We're pretty much popping every day.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, here's cheers.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Cheers, shut up, shut up.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Ploma Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think I think a lot of people also don't realize, bro,
Like in this space, how much influence, like people that
work in the news space have because we report on something,
we could we could either like push the bias towards
one way or the other, you know what I'm saying,
And then like everybody that's watching could also get influenced
to go or the other.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's a lot of influence bro and narrative. I've realized that,
like over the past year, I'm just like, damn, Bro,
Like these people just went and looked up when do
your teases corrido?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Because of for I blew up that video to think
I got like a million views and his video, BRO
was sitting like at his TikTok video was like at
ten kviews, Bro, and then I posted it and I
was like, yeah, people were watching like it's crazy. It's
just really crazy, Bro.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I think something is super interesting is that you.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Get to also like like, Okay, something happens, right, Like
you have no power over over that event, but you
kind of have the power to sway people and how
to feel about what happened. I think, you know, whatever happens,
and then you could be like, oh, you know, I
kind of feel like this, and then people kind of
like go with that too. Or if there's not much
info and you know, you give your opinion on what
you think happened, and people kind of go with that,

(26:43):
you know. Because also another thing is that there's so
much information. There's so much misinformation that people are not
going to go and look for it, you know, Like
I mean some people that make videos don't even give
a fuck about that either, you know.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
They just care about like.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Like the first five seconds, like like like that first
how would you say, like the hook, like the yeah,
I feel like that.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's also another thing that likes.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Are crazy huh, crazy bro, crazy Bro. For anybody that's
making content, you guys always have to focus on the
first five seconds. Yeah, that's whenever the TikTok considers them
a qualified view. So that's kind of that's kind of
saush right there. Five seconds when they give somebody an

(27:24):
actual view, it's three seconds, but I think a qualified
view is five seconds. So in TikTok, all that matters, bro,
viewership how long you can keep somebody engaged in your video.
But for some reason, TikTok says five seconds. And so
for me, Bro, I'm just like, oh and breaking news
out of l a. You know what I'm saying, I'm
screaming at.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
The Yeah, it has to be intense, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
It has intensity or you say like a wild thing,
like when of your teaser is a dead beat mom?
Like something like that. Broyes, I have to laugh at that,
you know what I'm saying, Like, but that's that's if
I say that, like Wendy your teaser is a dead
beat mom. I mean what fans are saying. You know
what I'm saying, So like I didn't say the fans.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
And then also too, if you can't get them within
like the first five seconds, like people are just gonna swipe.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, Bro, his tension SPAN's getting crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Guys, there's ten other videos that they could have watched.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's a it's called a I was researching it, bro.
It's called a pattern break. So all that you do, bro,
is if somebody scrolling scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, you ask yourself,
why are they scrolling? All right? What's because they keep
on seeing the same repeat content. But if you come
up in there and you scream at the at the
camera or say the angles really zoomed in on your

(28:31):
eyeball and then you zoom out really fast, people are
gonna be like, oh, shoot, this is different. You know
what I'm saying. So it's a patter breaktil you break it.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, I remember I said, like the out of the
regular scheduled programming that's something like that.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
I remember I had told you like like something that
like stands out is different than what people expect. I
think that that always goes, that always goes farther and
then but I feel like like yeah, that too, but
then that maybe that that gets him for the first
two seconds, but then those.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Three you need to be like okay, like he's not
just a bullshit.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You see the other thing if you want to jag
into the five seconds, there's a lot of there's a
lot of, you know, ways to do for engagement, bro.
Sometimes if you are struggling, sometimes you could even drag
out your words. Speak a little bit slower, you know
what I'm saying, because sometimes a lot of people speak
really fast. But if much if you look into the
camera and then say something really really slow, bro, it'll

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change a lot of different things.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, I feel like that's something you can do when
people know who you are and they care what you say.
I mean the mask of course, like you know, like
you already have that look where oh, you know, like.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
He's gonna say something, so like.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
You know, yeah, I feel like I feel like we
can kind of give ourselves that luxury a little bit
but yeah, I think I think there's competition too.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
You know, there's a lot of competition.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
I think every day you see a new person doing
some sort of news post.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Thing, everybody has the equal opportunity to make it. Now,
that's the.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Truth, bro. I think that the only thing that separates
us and the next person is who's working harder. Yeah,
the discipline, because I just like, for me, I'm just like, damn, bro,
Like I'm working really hard. So I don't want nobody
to take my place, you know what I'm saying. So
I'm just like I'm striving, striving, striving, and I do it.
And the best part about it all is that it

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doesn't feel like work. Yeah, Like it feels like it's
a joy to me.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like I was telling people on the last podcast, I
was like, I'm like almost obsessed with this, bro. Yeah,
it's just fun. Like it's just fun. You know.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I actually have a really interesting story that I remember
that that you're talking about, Like, you know, the lifestyle,
it's fun. I remember one time we went to Texas
and we we were like hosting an event called the
lad and there was this lady that you know, came
up to us.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
She talked about this either. Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
She was like hey, like like I'm a really big
fan of you guys. It's like, yeah, I got I
gotta congrats to what you guys are doing.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
She said she was like some type of like news reporter. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
She said that she studied for for like news reporting
and journaling. And she was like like, I went to
school for four years and like, you know, did it
like you guys did it? Like and she was kind
of like it kind of sounded like a like a
back backhanded compliment like you did it, but you didn't
go to school, you know. But then again like you.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Guys are taking our jobs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, And then I was like like because your kid
thinking like but we're just picking up the camera and filming,
you know. And I feel like the gus come like
what the fuck. There's people that not not just creating
the people that study for it, but like it's literally
adapting to the game. Like we learned the game. Anyone
can learn the game and and that's it, you know. Yeah,
but I feel like going to going to school is
like extra, you know. I feel like you're you're you

(31:38):
are going to like take in a lot of information
and like learn but get it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I wish I feel like it's not bad because I
feel like, I mean, at least like the three of
us we know sometimes like there's little things that we
need to fix about so we're.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Not like we kind of under ask or anything. No, no, no,
I actually advocate for going to school. We're actually doing
a podcast yesterday with our mental We're talking about like
how difficult this shit is. And I think there's a
lot of things that you don't really notice, so you
don't really like way properly your options until like you know,
it's right there. And I think I think school is
a great option as well. And I mean I think, yeah,
like we learned some things, you know, like that maybe

(32:13):
school hasn't caught up with yet, but I think sometimes
you can tell that, you know what, they drop out. Yeah,
it's just it's just a little bit of everything. I
feel like it's just not about it being like I
feel like they're just kind of salty. But I mean
we just have to like you know, if you pick
to do that, then you know that you're gonna have
to learn and it's a learning curve and you have
to keep going at it.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Every day.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
I think that's kind of like the Saws. I feel
like it's learning every day, trying to find your audience,
trying to find your own rhythm, how you want to
portray yourself, what you want to talk about, and keep
going out of years until you can't catch a rhythm.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
There's a there's a junior ah like a bar and
it says muchos I think it says like muchos La.
It's like what is that? That's what everybody that's like
in the IF space and has like followers and its successful,
Like that's like that bar applies to them, bro. Because
if you think about it, like how much people do

(33:06):
we know? I bit you thousands and they don't get
to experience like what we're doing. So that's why it's
something special, bro. And that's why I always like try
to like really be careful with what I say, so
I never try to like influence somebody to do the
bad thing. I try to influence to do some good things.
Because there's a lot of people watching, bro.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I think that's what differentiates like people that Damn, I
wouldn't know exactly how we'd label us. How would you
guys say, like influencer news, well whatever you guys want
to see. Yeah, like like the good ones from the
bad ones. I think that we realize that we have
certain responsibility, you know with our audience. Like you know,
our audience has put that trust in us to you know,

(33:46):
for the most part, believe kind of everything that we say,
and you know, we take that trust and we actually
show that we care about it and not just say
like some crazy bullshit, you know, or like a slow
day type shit and like just come up with the wildest.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Startup eating like that. Yet like like you know, you
kind of like stayed true that, Bro.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I know you go to starting some beas bro, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
I feel like you should talk about that like damn
like on a slow day because it's not starting bees.
But like someone like really kind of got up on
your face and you're like I don't like this ship.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh like beef Beach like coming out to me and stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Or like on the internet like yo oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean there's been some people bro that that've been like, oh,
let's fight, And I was just like, Bro, you're in
the host the other state away.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Who's driving who? Yeah, Wisconsin?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Like nah, Bro's like people, that's why that's why people
like in a people need to like know what's contents
with real life, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, no, definitely.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Make this stuff, bro, And it's it's really for entertainment
because the world is a stage, you know what I'm saying,
So we just like we just post stuff out there, bro,
and it's really fun for entertainment. But it's just all
depending on the person however they take it.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I damn.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I feel like the Internet is like it's like it's
a world of it's you know. Sure, I feel like
you could say one thing and then like the narrative
goes that way, or like you could be filming a
skit and like I'm having fun.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
You know, you could even either or I think something. Sorry,
we need to go on the break, right you guys.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
We're back from the break, and I want to ask
you in this space, I feel like everybody wants those views,
everybody wants to be seen, everybody wants to be the
next big thing. But I think you kind of have
like some sort of anonymity. You know, if you take
off your mask, nobody really knows who you are.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Do you like that?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Do you like maybe like that dual lie for the mysteriousness.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Do you yeah, or do you wish that maybe there
was some more recognition towards you for your work?

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know what, Bro, it's a little half and half
because I do see some people that they say that
they always got to wash their back because of something
that they said or something like that. But then there's
also the people that are like, hey, I like this,
and then like say, I'll be chilling with people then
and they'll get walked up to and they'll be like, oh,
are you the dude from this? And that I think
I was with you guys. People were walking up to

(35:59):
you guys, and I was like, not in that specific time,
but I was like, damn, bro, Like I'm really walking
through the don't fall in love fast and nobody knows
who I am. Bro, Like this person doesn't know who
I am, but he just doesn't know me.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
I feel like you would be like like when it was,
you know, because your content's very impactful and then you
have your own personality. But like you said, it's like
it's a median. You know, there's a meeting in it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
An bro for sure, But uh I like it though,
Like I've grown to like it. It's crazy though, because
all the people back home, they all know me, bro,
Like they all know like what I do. So the
other day I was playing basketball and like everybody was
walking up to me because I hadn't seen him like
in years, and they were like, what's the and I'm like,

(36:41):
told me, Bro, I think it's just like friends telling
friends down to friends on the friends over there. Yeah,
they do know me for that, but I don't. I
don't try to act like this big celebrity bro. You know,
I'm just dude.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
I feel like a lot of people respect that. You know,
you act like a regular I mean, you're a regular person, right,
But obviously there's that little like influence. But I think
when you're yourself and you're genuine with people, I feel
like people see through that and people continue to support
you for that reason because like, oh, like like when
we go out, like oh there's this you know, we're
the same three dumbasses that on the podcast back to

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that word dumb messes.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
And then and then from I wanted to ask too,
is there like an influencer that you actually do not.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like an influencer that that just like pisses you.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Off or that's just always bashing on you.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You know what, Bro, there's one BRO that I like,
It's it's she actually, Like, I just feel like she
just messes up the vibe. Any single space that she
goes to is just always she's just so tense, right,
And like I think that I think that you guys
already know who I'm talking about. And she's the name
starts with an M, Mary Bro, and it's like she

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just she hops on and she's hanging out with Benji Mary,
I mean Benji, Wendy, Evelyn, and it's just like everything
is so good until she shows up. She's like this,
she's looking at any like little like bad thing and
just like learning everybody else bro, And so everybody else
kind of like feeds off her energy. I just feel
like she kind of just rooined stuff, bro. So I
think that that's like one influencer who I don't hate her.

(38:11):
I just kind of dislike her for the space that
she's in.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Bro. Okay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I just feel like there's more likable people in the
you know, in the in the content creation space, and
then there's just people who are just like kind of
harder to like. Bro.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, I think you guys kind of had like a
little skillful where she got upset because you consider like
you you mentioned her as Wendy's friend, right, and then.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, I think, yeah you got you got mac that.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh what's because a lot of times, bro, it's good
to say Wendy Ortiz or whoever else that you're talking
about in the video itself. So imagine if I'm talking
about Wendy's sister, Evelyn Ortiz, who have nothing against right,
but whenever I make videos on Evelyn artist, I always
say and breaking news as Wendy or he's his sister

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did this and people in the comments are like, she
has a name, you know, because they want me to
say her name, and You're like yeah, but I'm just.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Like, you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I feel like at the end of the day, it's
about being smart with the content. If your name is impactful,
the video is going to do well.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
At the end of the day, it's like business.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Like what will go harder? Like Jason Nunis or like
Jason Angel's friend.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Come on, or Jason and Diego that invited Angel to
be on the podcast that changed his life.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
The word just kidding, you know.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I love my boy, He's his family to me. Will
there will ever be a time where you take off
the mask and you try to build like your brand
without you know, the mask, like you yourself.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I feel like the mask is brand.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I was thinking that, but like you could do both,
you know. I was thinking that podcast, I'm going to
take off my mask, so literally there was for the
clip farm.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, I need that for the intro.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Damn this this was smart. I'm not gonna lie. He
ahead of his game for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I always feel like it's cool meeting people who like
are also on the same space and you know what's up,
like you like, we know what was going on right
here too, like with the whole starts at the end.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, like I said the names, I'm cud it. Also,
people could come and be like, I don't know why,
I just knew exactly who were talking about.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I feel like I have read that exact common word
for word somewhere I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And I think I think I might have been the
first one to even say it too, because my comment
whenever I first commented that bro got like ten thousand likes,
and I just I was like, Oh, everybody's been thinking this,
but they're afraid to say it. Yeah, So once I
said it. Maybe just because I have a little more
followers than the average person, right, maybe they were like
gravitating toward what I said. Bro, this is what I
This is where the influence thing comes, because even though

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people might say, oh, you're not an influencer, but there's
a lot of influence. Bro.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So I don't know, Bro, I don't hate her. I
love Wendy, love Evelyn, love Benji, love everybody in that space.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Bro, it's just just don't love her.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Marriage just a little harder to like. Bro, She's just
a little harder to like.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
That's it, Damn.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
And do you think if you were to take off
the mask and show your face and would you do
you think you would still be able to make the
same exact content that you make now?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I can be as like.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I would think so, bro, because I think I already
have all of the whole like the tools and Bro,
there's methods in this, you know what I'm saying, Certain hashtags,
certain what what count of hashtags to use? Psychological there's
just a lot of psychological stuff. So I think that
I don't know if I would have the same amount

(41:41):
of success, I could even have more, Bro, just because
people would actually be walking out to me and people
will be posting me you know what I'm saying. But
who knows, bro, whatever I know right, I mean, well,
we might know. One day I might take it out.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Bro, Damn he finally be famous.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I don't know, Bro, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
That's crazy. Bro. Yeah, Bro, But.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I like it though, Bro, I personally, I personally do
like it. It's it's crazy though, because a lot of
the influencers bro that I've that have talked about me
and said like they don't like me or uh, They've
they've been like, I'm a hit, I'm a slap on
when I see him, I'm just like, Bro, I've already
met you guys before.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
One time you said, uh, I think I don't know
if you commented her you made a video, but you
were like, I already met Benji.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
He just doesn't know. He didn't know what me.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
I met him at the Don't Find a Love Fest.
That's what Benji Chavis does not know I met Benji
Chavis that they Don't fall in Love fest. But everybody
knows what happened that night. He probably doesn't remember that
he even met met me, Bro or anybody else. But uh,
that day, you know what I'm saying. I met I
met Benji Bro and he was a cool guy. Bro Wendy,

(42:54):
I think I saw her from far, but I didn't
meet her. But I have met a lot of different influencers.
The guy who I also meant too that he knows,
but I don't know if he was playing attention that day.
It was five year get Bro, a dude who I
think he went on on this podcast and he same chairs.
He said that he said that I made himself almost

(43:15):
you know, I made him almost off himself. I was like,
that's crazy, you know what I'm saying. But I met
him on three different occasions already. One was whenever he
was the cameraman for about like oh shit, seven years ago.
I was on one of those YouTube videos. What I
can't say?

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Yeah, did he like start off as a cameraman? Cameraman
that day he was like, I.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Just remember brother. They went up to me and they
were like hey. It was actually the she was like, hey,
do you want to do this interview? I was like,
all right, let's do it. So we ended up doing
the interview and at the end I asked the cameraman,
I was like, what was your Instagram And he told
me Instagram and he had like fifteen thousand followers at
that point, and I was like, okay, cool, bro. And

(44:02):
so that was the first time. The second time was
barely last year and I went into a fab and
I actually told him. I said, I said, what's up, bro,
how are you? He's like, oh, good, good good. And
then I was like, this is a you probably you
might know me, bro. I was like, this is what
I do. And he's like, okay, cool. And then when
he came on here he I don't know. I don't

(44:24):
know if he remembers that moment, you know what I'm saying,
So he already knows me. But I just don't think
he remembers.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Damn, like seven years ago. Because they're also from Colorado.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Right, they live in Colorado. I don't know if they.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Probably weren't like popping as they are now.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
It was it was it like a like one of
those women interviews.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I got the mom see like like it happened, but
I just don't remember like what it what the question was.
I just remember it's it's still there. I think I
already checked like one day.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Damn, and then you've been from like Colorado, and I
think where everything happens is here in La Luckily we
kind of already live here.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
You coming as damn.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
I want to say the word like outsider, not necessarily
because like you live somewhere else, but maybe because you know,
have like two personalities almost, Like what do you think
of the Mexican influencer space, Like I know that you've
been to those parties. You know everybody gets let you know,
including us, Like what do you think about it? Like
kind of looking at it from the outside of it
because I've seen you and like, you know, I feel
like you don't really like get too into it. You

(45:32):
kind of like observing what goes through your mind, like
Mexicans are in good hands or we're.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Fucked good question.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I think the rassa bro is always going to be
the rassap bro. Like see the rasa is like just
fiestatos and you know people people want to get lit bro,
So I think that that's cool. Everybody wants to have
a good time bro. Like nobody parties, like like the
Mexicans party, We party the best, you know what I'm saying.
But I also feel like alcoholism sometimes too is like
also like big negative thing in the community too.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So I think in the in the in the influencer space.
I don't know if people do over drink like that,
but it could be somebody's downfall for sure eventually.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, you know, Jason, he's looking at you when you.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Said no, no, no, because I was. I was kind
of reflecting of what Angel was saying earlier, like I
feel like there's a time where, you know, we do drink.
I think we do have some sort of access to
like privileged stuff that not every day people do, and
I think it could get to your head, It could
fuck with you, it could stop your momentum, you know.

(46:34):
So I feel like that's very that's something to be
careful with because I feel like if you you know,
you get you know what they say, like, you get
lost in the sauce.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
And I feel as the world kind of testing to
see if you're really about it and if you should
really get there, to see if you kind of like
sway away from the past.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, but I feel like anybody that's consistent, like yourself,
you know, is going to be in good hands.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
M m.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's funny though that you bring up the like the
Mexican parties and stuff like that, because like, although I
do get invited, I don't really get invited to too
much stuff. But the times that I have went, like,
I've seen some stuff where I'm like, what the heck, bro,
Like I never.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Imagined that that would happen, you know, can you elaborate?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, where I'm just like this influencer right here is
dating this person, but she just went over there and
she's like she's like kissing this dude.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know what I'm saying or you've seen that.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, I've seen that before, and I'm just like, dangn bro,
Like I just feel like the whole influencers is just
like sometimes fake, like this person actually dating that person
or are they like in an open relationship you know.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Yeah, because I feel like they're trying to be business
smart to get keep pushing the views and like they
didn't really care about anything else. Yeah, Like it's two worlds,
Like Okay, social media is gonna I'm with this person
make content, but then over here like I'm single as
fuck once the cameras are off.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I feel like, to be honest, they're not like being
business small. I feel like they're just cheating Bro. I
about to say, that's a lot of thinking. That that
would take a lot of thinking. I think they were
with their like significant another, partying it up. They want
to get another shot. They went at it for thirty.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
Seconds and walk back and all it was it was
like that and the Mexican influenced it like that, like
you saw something like that.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
It was like something like that. It was like it's
like they were like this, like from that wall to
that wall. Bro, it was like that, like that close.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Damn. Yeah, it's just really weird.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
It's really really weird with the stuff that you the
stuff that you see, the stuff that like you see
on the internet, and then you realize that it's it's
not even real, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And and then also I wanted to ask you to
I mean kind of going.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Back, I think that he sounds like the like the insidious, the.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I don't know what it is, but I finish.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
The way you know that that one, Bro, he sounds
like he sounds like that. Like to me, I think
that he has like a like a fan base bullets,
because I think that the reason why he didn't really
see see as much as he wanted to. And he's
I know, he's still trying, right. But the reason why, Bro,
is because I feel like he's all his songs like look,

(49:09):
he sound the same.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I mean you guys might not agree, but I think
that how his songs like like are very similar and
people just got kind of tired. Bro.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
So once you're over one sound, you're over the whole
artist because they're got nothing else.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I always say, there's a there's a there's a phrase
called change or die, and there's one group that's doing
that for But these dues are always changing. Bro, They're
never dying, you know.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
No sound, but they when they do something, it's successful,
which is crazy. And like the marketing too, I think
it has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
So Pluma is doing the same thing, Bro. He likes
to change a lot, like to evolve.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And would you also put Glave special in that same
category as hobby because I feel like a lot of
people say that they have like similar sounds.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah speciality. Yeah, they just they need they need like
a big collaboration, Bro. To be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
You think so, and who do you think? Who do
you think that they need to collaborate with?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Wh who have they collaborated with? Like the biggest ones for.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
The thing's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Do you think that for stops the artists from collaborating
with pet Bluemont and then pet Bluma like the same.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
With like for I have some inside information on that actually,
but there's one of those two that I mean, it's obvious. Bro.
Look for Bro, how is it that he lets Chino
Vodka's work with the other side and then Besso Bluma
is like he doesn't allow these guys to.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Work with team.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
You know, it just doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
I'm just like, there's a there's one guy who's clearly
not that mad, and then there's another guy who is mad.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
So maybe could be like oh you know, I mean
I feel like that.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
There's been songs like Literacy, for example, Tito Tito has
a song with like Chino or do you mean like
best on not letting Tito collaborate with.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah yeah, like so like with so collaborated with Chino
podcast And what song was that?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I think mommy Mommy, Yeah, that was.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Mommy and that was that after their brief No mommy
was I can't recall, but they do have a song together.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
So Tito and and what song is it?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, yeah, mm hmm ye like best of Bloom. I
was like more mad though, first yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
I think damn yeah, because I feel like maybe they're like, oh,
you know, our teams, like they could work with each
other as long as maybe it's not too much. And
then like maybe if it's like us, like we hate
each other, like okay, but let them work because they
benefits both labels.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
It's the same space too.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
And then I've also been seeing a lot of people
say that when an artists starts to record label legacy
for example, you know, for I started stream mob best
started a double P like I started Loom, a lot
of people say, don't sign to a label where the
artist is like the CEO, because he will never let
you be bigger than them.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh yeah, Bro, that's super big. That is super big. Yeah,
that is super big in the industry because I mean
everybody knows, bro that the big artists always has the
biggest ego too. You know, they don't want to let
the smaller guys like succeed bigger. You know the guy
that the guy that did do it bro, And people
are probably gonna say, I'm glazing because I've been like

(52:45):
talking about a lot. But for Loki did put Tobacca's
in position to be bigger than him, Bro, he really did,
like with all his Drake collaboration, and he was letting
him collaborate with so much different people. But China has
been having down here so far. So I don't know, Bro.
Sometimes it's just it's not up to the artist. It's

(53:05):
just up to the fans, that's it.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
I feel like since there's there's so much music being released,
like people just don't know where to put their ears.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
You know, it was an artist that he thinks falling off.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Shit, Yeah, bro, I think that just falling off because
I feel like everybody thought that the Drake collaboration was
gonna be like goaded.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
And yeah yeah, and damn do you think Drake was
kind of trolling?

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I feel like he shouldn't have tried to sing Spanish.
In my opinion, he should have just fucking rapped on
that ship.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
So it's because I think this is what happened, right,
So I think it would have been much bigger. But then,
do you remember whenever Drake and Kendrick Lamar started beefing
and all that you need. The podcast was cool with
Drake before that, and then once the Drake and Kendrick
Lamar beef happened. You looked at the people and they
started gravitating toward Kendrick Lamar. They were like, Nah, we're
rocking with Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
The Mexican's rocking with Bro.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
It got to a point where it's like people people
were like, oh, working with Drake, all right?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
You know they weren't too happy about it.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, they weren't that happy about it.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
The losing team type ship.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Yeah, Bro, just damn worst time to get the collabal
lifetime exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It was just it was just bad timing. That's all
bad timing.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
But do you think the song was good? This the
like I said from like the whole Kendrick Drake thing, like,
do you think it was a good song?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I probably read it like a like a six. Yeah,
it was kind of underwhelming, bro, Honest with you, I
thought it was gonna be much better. But then whenever drop,
I was like, Okay, I listened to it one time,
maybe two times, and then I saw it like on
a few tiktoks and I was like, all right, well,
how much times? Do people play. Yeah, that's the problem though.
I think in the regional Mexican genre though, is that

(54:49):
there's artists needs to start making more replayable music because
I feel like a lot of the music bro gets
listened to listen to listen to for about a week,
two weeks. Yeah'm trend the next song, damn, and then
it's just it's just a trend, Bro, It's just and
everything that you're singing with the corridos.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
You know, we were on the fucking generational run, the
run of a lifetime.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
Do you think that like all that stopping.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
The corridos and the visas, like it is going to
focus over and like you think some of the gal
is gonna come and like take over corridos or like
m like you know our recnale a little bit.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I have a prediction, bro, that is gonna be down
from when did Trump get it? Like the twenty twenty
four he came into twenty.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Five twenty four, Oh no, like first days of twenty five.
Actually first day's twenty five, right, yeah, you're gonna see
we don't watch it, yeah right here it is.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So he's gonna get out in twenty twenty nine, correct, yep, Bro,
I think it's gonna be down years until twenty twenty nine, Bro,
just because these artists don't want to drop corridos like that,
like the corridos they were dropping La Pisa And yeah,
so Bro, he's lucky. He's lucky. Did run it for
all the Mexicans besides the people that do have their propellas,

(56:05):
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but that's my prediction.
I do predict, Bro, that is it is gonna be
no corridos bellicos until that time.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Damn. Who knows?

Speaker 4 (56:19):
This is gonna be crazy?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
And that just applies to the people that don't have
the viezas.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
They don't want to risk anything right now. Damn yeah,
they don't want to risk nothing.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Who do you think is next? Is there a particular
underground artist that you really funk with? And like this
guy has the potential to be like right where the
top dogs.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Are at really not underground, but yeah, maybe not, He's
gonna gonna be a big dog.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Helliclips that I should you.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Know, that's a good one. Do you guys? Can you
guys throw some names out there?

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Like you need to podcast on clave Cloud has been
on a run.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't have a nice run in need twenty what.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Three twenty twenty three?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah, that it gooes two years me personally, Bro, I'm
betting on Vega.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Like he's gonna be number one.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
And the only reason I say that is because he's
the most open to be very versatile.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Like you even saw on the on that one song
where he was like I'm only twenty, Like I got
to say, yeah right there, Like he sounds like so versatile, bro,
like he I think he changed he changed up his
flow like three times in one song.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
So I think that that dude right there is very
very talented. I think that the only thing that he's
missing is a marketability. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
And I think what's crazy too, is that like he's independent. Bro,
there's no there's no label taking like eighty percent from
him or anything like that. Wow, label sake eighty percent.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I didn't know that, bro.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I think he needs a fuck up bitch, damn. Bro,
y'all y'all knew they were getting fucked door Damn.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
I feel like he needs I've seen him on the
concerts that he has in Mexico. I think he needs
more stage presence, like being able to like hype up
the craft.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
It was just kind of like raw talent.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah, he's just like a little shy, like when he.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
First started he didn't even know what to wear. You know.
He liked like that look. He helped him though. Yeah,
but I feel like he got lucky.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
He got was so unexpected because I was there in
that one and like, yeah, comes out like weren't proud
and ship like and and this.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
I was like, I was like, damn, I can.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Afford that fit too, kind of crazy must shirt on.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, yeah, I can afford a little.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
That was funny, Damn.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
I feel like there's a I feel like there's a
lot of hype for Oscar Mydon, Like he's been killing it.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
He had that which a song that hit number one
in the world, which is kind of great right in
the world.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
And they didn't take his visa too.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
They didn't take his visa. He's actually gonna be performing
at Ontario Ontario, Ontario. I'm looking forward to that chat
have him on Monday. Oh yeah, we're gonna have it
one Monday.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, yeah, next week. When do you go back to Colorado?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I think like on Sunday, Bro, But I might extend it.
I don't know, just depending like there's like more stuff
that I get into. You know what I'm saying. But
one thing that I want to talk to you guys
about is or ask you guys. You guys might not
respond to it, but who is the artist that you
guys think will fall off in twenty twenty six that
will struggle to be relevant because I have an answer for.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
That twenty six? Yeah, who's falling off right now?

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I feel like there's a lot that are like losing
there there the cloud.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Get he's a production on artists that are calling off now. Damn,
I don't even know. I would say, I don't even
thought into twenty twenty six. I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I don't even know having for lunch for me, Bro,
I would predict that bit. Really he's in a fallout
so twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Why.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
The only reason why is because what it's looking like,
Bro is whenever he's at his concerts and people only
know that TikTok songs.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
Yeah, you think he's and transcended from that. He hasn't
got out of that like bubble. Oh yes, you think
it's a moment in time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yes, I know he makes really really good music. However,
I just feel like a lot of people are hanging
on to the TikTok thread. Bro, They're just TikTok. I
hope that this TikTok's all hits. I hope that this
song hits on TikTok. You know that that people could
could be trending with my music. I think that the
Bear is gonna have a down year twenty twenty six. Bro.

(01:00:27):
And if I'm wrong, damn, I don't look stupid, but.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Damn, but I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I mean, when we did go to this concert in
Biggers Field, a lot of people were sitting down and
I'm not singing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I wasn't paying attention to that was my life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I was paying attention during that bids you were sitting
right next to no. But I was paying attention because
I remember like I was getting sick, so I didn't
drink or any and I did notice a lot of
people were singing or anything.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Then do you feel like like that happens a lot
when people are so fucking high, they know that there's
a hype, they sell the tour, and then when the
tour comes around three months people are over it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah, damn is that quick?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
I think the market's so difficult, Like how do you
keep people excited with so much going on that who's
gonna fall off? Like if you think about it, like,
what's that if they've had a tour every single year
except this year, and I feel like people are still
anticipated to like pull up to their stuff, you know.
But even then, like they kind of struggled. No, did

(01:01:26):
they they canceled some shows?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No? When no.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
In Cano and South America, didn't they cancel one or no?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Damn? Yeah, maybe they did.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
I don't know if it was I don't know, gonna
do it or something, damn. But I mean the videos
that I saw, yeah, there was like thirty thousand people.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
It's like stadium shows.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
That's kind of creat someone that was gonna say I
think is still having a hard time.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Oh yeah American audience. Yeah, but Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Like in Mexico he's like, yeah, a list, you know,
but not over here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
I think there's very few better Like you really needed
the US to like love you a lot too, like
you ticket to the next I think because there's a
lot of artists that are super big in Mexico that
can sell out arenas, but right here, like they can't
even sell out like a theater or like anything more
than Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
Not that's going to struggle as well.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Another year not being forgotten about that, bro, you know what?
But my point so and they agree you should elaborate
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
No, No, like yah, I'm a huge fan, but like like
I'm no, it's because I think, of course, and I
feel like everybody's been doing good, like giving him his flowers,
like he literally started this ship for real, like you know,
break by Brick, But I think it's really affecting him,
not being able to come to the United States.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
And also I think what affects him too is like
I feel like he's so real. I think he's like
the realist one of them all, Like he really does
whatever he wants, like whatever he feels like, like not
whatever strategy the team said, this is what's gonna make
a pop off, Like like he does whatever the fun
he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Like oh yeah, like he he does it, Bro, who
else is ever gonna do that?

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
No, Yeah, there's consequences, and I think the consequences sooner
or later going to start to show.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Yeah, I think I agree to because when you said that,
there's not really a team behind them, or maybe there
is a tea behind them, but like he just doesn't
pain pay attention to this, but he's the leader, like
at the end of the day, like whatever he says ghost,
I don't think that's the case with a lot of
other artists.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
So like when he did that album, the Trap album,
like his team told them what we heard like this,
this isn't you you know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
He dropped that The Trap.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
And then once you know, he came back to the US,
Jimmy was like, hey, you need to be doing this
ship once again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
That's when he came back up. But now he's stuck
in Mexico. He can't go. He's not listening to anyone,
so stack out on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
I feel like that's why we always say being the
artist is like the hardest shit ever, Like they deserve
all their success.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I have a question, bro, who's in your Mount Rushmore
of corrido artists?

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
How many are Mount Rushmore for?

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
For damn?

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Like, are we talking new coreels or like old gorrillas
because let's do new because in the comment I'm on
the old one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I think I think I have. I'll say, if we're here,
best Blooma Junior n.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, that's exactly I think. I think I agree with you.
I agree and tried hard to be different.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
That the most accurate one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah, I think it is. Yeah, I agree. Can we
put right on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
The No, but that's kind of like more old school
you know, No, that's it due to him though, Oh okay,
new to you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
No, I agree with that. That's exactly what I was
going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I betually somebody is still going to comment on him,
be like, no, you're missing like you're missing somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Ont No.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
It's a good song, though, you know, I feel like
I think Tito is still new to be into that
that list.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I feel like you put not in junior because like
they definitely changed the game, you know, like in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Yeah, and he's like, I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
Know, coming back from that clip, what about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Of all time? Though?

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Damn it all time of all time? You would definitely
have to put those tickets north for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Real, disrespectful tonmous in them?

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Bron Yeah, what do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
You guys put? I did look up there? No, Yeah,
for sure, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Okay, one million, Okay, someone that knows. Okay, do you
guys put Charlino up there?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Yeah, you kind of had to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, why do you think Charlie because.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
He's like he's like like you think about what ploma did,
but like he modernized it. He brought a different style.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
I mean we know a lot of people like you know,
like Jamie Javin, all of them that you know they
rect those food You think Charlino changed his game like
all of Mexico and everything, or just like more in
the La scene.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Because I don't really I wasn't even alive. Bro. Yeah,
I feel like I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
I don't want to say anything that you know is incorrect.
You know, pr trained one on the fourth one the
fourth so we have.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Was we was we sent there like Corrioso?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh yeah, Valentin Valentine Valentine val later Yeah damn, so
we have that be your fourth. Sometimes I think.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
The list what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
You guys want to plums in the list as an
all time Yeah, all the time? For me, Bro, I
think the best of Bloom was like better than Charlino.
I mean that that might sound like a little crazy
ready for that? Why was better than Charlino? Because he
took all the old stuff and then he implemented it

(01:06:51):
into the new style and numbers wise way bigger.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
I mean he CHARLINO, Lady Gaga.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
No, I agree with you, and I feel like when
you talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
For that, bro hated for that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
Okay you said, you said numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
He's like you dig up, you fucking dig up your
own grave.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
But okay, I have a question for you. So you
said pesil is also better because like numbers. You know,
I always find with my mom about like you know,
who's like better and everything she was to me, but
those school artists, and her.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Excuse is always that like the digital world wasn't like there.
You know, that's their excuse. That is true. No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
I don't think it's an excuse. I think it's the reality.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
But a lot of people might say.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
But then on the other on the other hand, like
peak like like you're gonna be in the same position
because come ten years, like some new is gonna make
whatever it took you five years to do, some new
kid is gonna make it in a month, And you
might feel the same like someway a ship, like a
kid can be fucking take over your job.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I feel like everything I think. I think everything comes
in waves. Everything changes, technology changes, I think the way
people think changes, and I feel like it's just bound
to happen. But I don't agree with you with the
whole digital No.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
No, with my mom, you don't. I don't agree with
her either. I'm just sink. That's what my mom always
told me. You know, when I tell her nothing, that's
the best. I already got my already.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I do think that in twenty twenty seven, though, I
think that the biggest corio artist will be an AI
Chorea artist.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I was about to bring that over. Hey, you know
what seven would like?

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
Would that kind of like chan or like tans are.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Real artificial intelligence? Have you guys seen what Google veil?
You guys have some time, bro, look at Google veil?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
I heard, I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
It looks so realistic. Literally, somebody's doing a street interview
and I was, I was looking at it. I said,
that's that's real. That has to be real. It was fake, bro, you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Know what you're talking about. You know what I recorded,
like a crowd of people, It was a fake.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I feel like that might already be an AI artist.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
I don't know about it yet maybe in the English world.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Who could have been Maybe what I mean, have you
bet Bloma for?

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Maybe they're all AI bro never.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Know, there's gonna be like a like a fucking AI
hologram type.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I think that hologram should stop talking about this.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
Someone's knocking at the door.