February 28, 2025 • 52 mins
Ashanti's Triumphant Return: Love, Motherhood, and Manifesting
In this heartwarming episode of the Angie Martinez IRL Podcast, Angie welcomes back Ashanti as her first reoccurring guest. Ashanti opens up about her journey over the past two years, sharing the joy of becoming a mother and wife, reconnecting with Nelly, and navigating through their past to find love again. She reflects on lessons learned from marriage and motherhood, revealing how growth and communication played a vital role in rekindling her relationship with Nelly. Ashanti also speaks candidly about her fresh perspective on life, highlights from her career, and her approach to manifesting dreams. The episode touches on the impactful loss of Irv Gotti and how Ashanti continues to pray for peace and hold onto the positive memories.
00:36 Ashanti's Journey to Motherhood
01:15 Rekindling with Nelly
03:52 Navigating Love and Growth
12:06 Marriage Insights and Challenges
14:19 Becoming a Mom: The Realities
20:49 Postpartum and Body Image
26:54 Balancing Career and Motherhood
30:47 Traditions and Family Bonds
33:29 Motherhood and Legacy
37:50 New Movie and Music Projects
39:48 Processing Unexpected Loss
44:48 Ashanti teaches Angie how to Manifest
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Edge Martinez in Real Life Podcast A shottingest back guy. Yo,
you are my first reoccurring guests on IRL.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I have never repeated a guest. But we are so
invested in your life at this point and so much
has changed that and we're just coming back with a
new season.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I congratulations, thank.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You baby, Well, congratulations to you on the laundry list
of things that we're gonna get to today. But it
just felt like, I don't know, we're so happy for
you now. You know, mom, do you feel like that?
Do you feel like the love?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I definitely feel the love. It's been a journey, you
know what I mean, it's been a journey.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So you know, you you you open up your social
media and you see just an outpouring of love. It's
just like, ah, that feels great.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So your life in the past two years is like
a different.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Life, completely different, like who who are you now versus
who you were that day when we were in Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We shot it in Canada.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Because you're on set.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, Oh my goodness, I am a mother and a
wife now, completely different. I did not see this coming
at all the last time we said.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know, it's so interesting when I thought that there
may be a little window open is I asked you
about Nellie and the time that you had dated that
first time around, and I was like, I asked you,
what did you learn from yourself in that relationship? And
you said to me that he checked you because the
way you used to talk to him, and that he
would say, don't we don't talk to each other like that,
(01:37):
and you thought that that made you better. And the
way you told that story, I was like, wait a minute,
something is It's not. It wasn't told with like the
venom of an X. It was told that there was
still like a little bit of a soft spot for
that time. Maybe this was right after versus.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh so this was after running for the hug?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It was awkward. Everybody was like, and something happened.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
From then to now A lot happened clearly, So okay,
So if it was after versus, it was definitely a
place where I was open to what he was saying,
Like I was listening to what he was saying instead
of being angry and mad.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, how come just because of how he was Because.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Like what shifted?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I think growth and maturity and if we're being completely honest,
he said that to me like super early on, you
know what I mean, Like this was like, you know,
my mind is crazy, like I'm out like a pirate,
like sour, like it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So you know, I just you know, and I'm from
New York.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He's from the Midwest, so you know, they're different, Like
they're very polite and very you know, and I'm very
you know, so very early on in some of our
conversations a little heated, he'd be like yo, yo ya.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, like what we're not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
This is not gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So he turned.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
He told me that very early on, and I.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Was like, this was the first time when you were
this was like the first go round.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So I was like, hmm, nobody ever said that to
me before, you know, But when I received it differently the.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Next time around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This time around, Yeah, oh he had to come back
and check you again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, the mouth, it's not crazy anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's goods. Calm down, don't be nuts.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But wait, but please, what are you.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Willing to share?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Because like what happened? What went from like no, even
some of the interviews. I think we did an interview
on the radio and you was like, yeah, no, I'm
not spinning the block. Nobody's spinning the block. It went
from that to like, wait a minute, and Nelly were seeing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Somewhere, and then it went fast.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
It went so fast.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I think what happened, honestly, was communication. I think that look,
I didn't know he was obviously gonna be everse. I
didn't know that he was going to come over and
give me a hug. I didn't know my DJ actually
gave him my number a couple of months after that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, and the first text I was like three
one four, what.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But communication and the first our first or second conversation,
I'm not gonna lie, it was a little heated because
there were a lot of buried emotions. You know, it
had been with seven years, eight years or so, and
it was a lot of buried emotions and a lot
of things that I didn't know about how he felt
and vice versa.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So it took me listening, It took both of us listening,
to be honest.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wow, and yeah, I probably couldn't do when you were younger.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's the thing I was just about to say, I
wish we would have communicated a little bit more but
that was, like I said, seven eight years ago, we
were both in a different mental space, you know. So
now it's just like, Okay, you hear and receive things differently.
You know, you're older and you're more mature, you've experienced
life more.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And when did you think, wait, this might just be
more than healing.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Clearly a window has to be open where you're open
to what this could be. Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Think on our was it our first.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Or second date?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Maybe the first kind of day started dating again?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Circles.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I can't even believe it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You have to hide because you don't want people to
see you guys day.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was so bizarre. We weren't like super hiding.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But we weren't you know street Yeah, you know, we
definitely didn't go to Noble, but we did.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We were in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Our first I think our first reconnected date was in
Vegas and it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Was so crazy. It was around Valance Scien's Day and
we took a trip to Delce and he took but
you know what's crazy, He was like, well you not
my girlfriend? Yes, so I'm only spending ten thousands when
you become my girl again then, you know, so I'm like,
oh god, it was it was hilarious. But the thing
(06:18):
for me was like I couldn't believe that I had
those feelings again, you know what I mean? Like I
was just like, wait a minute, all these feelings were going,
like how was that even happening?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I never ever expected those feelings to come back.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
How we could think we know ourselves and our whole
insides and how we feel, and all of a sudden
you feel differently about something.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Absolutely, there's no like are you feeling this on day?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Saying like there's You couldn't have paid me to say
I would have lost everything had I bet, you know
what I mean? If someone would have said bet everything
that you and Nelly would be back take it all,
that ain't never gonna happen, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Was that because you were angry maybe or misunderstanding you
just closed you know what it was?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I got past the anger, and you know when they say, like,
when you're not mad anymore, you're really over it. You know,
there was a time where I was like cut all
his music or don't play none of his ship.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You know what I'm saying if I'm beforeming, y'all wanting
up to don't play no Nelly shit, you know what
I'm saying at the party whatever, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And then it got to a place where I was like,
I don't care, you could play it, you know what
I mean? Yeah, I didn't care anymore. So when you
get to a place that it doesn't affect you and
you just don't care, that signifies that it's.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's it's over and you're done with it, you know
what I mean. I can look at a picture and like, oh,
he looks nice.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Before it'd be like, you know what I'm saying, you
were really like on the other side of it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It was in the beginning I was mad, you know
what I mean. But then, like I said, I got
to a place where I didn't care.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then I got to a place where.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You were open.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm married and have a.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Child and here we are.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, what amazing love story. It's like.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And there's always a lot of talk about circling the block,
like is that a good thing? Some people say I
would never What have you learned about that? Like re
entering a relationship that you had been in already and
clearly you both probably did things wrong. You weren't listening
to each other things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What I've learned is to never say never. That's number one.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
And what's meant to be will be regardless of how
you feel, what you think the timing was in a
universe for you will be there regardless, you know what
I mean. And I feel like we both kind of
knew each other's heart, and I feel like we both
got hurt and we both were in our stances and
then and then I mean not to sound fairy talish,
(08:42):
but I feel like God kind of just strings you
with who you're supposed to be with at the time,
you know what I mean. And when we did get
back together, the craziest thing was, it didn't feel like
seven years.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Had gone by, Like we just snapped back into you know,
three four like it felt and.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Never like an alarm of like or a fear of
like old problems or old issues or are you able
to kind of just roll past that? You know what.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I wouldn't say was there a fear of it. I
think we both were just Okay, what's gonna happen, you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Know what I mean, Like we're gonna try it out.
And see.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know, obviously at first you start out just the
dating and being around each other again and all of that.
But I guess around the first argument we both handled
it in such a great way, you know what I mean.
It was just like, you know, you do this and
you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
All right, you're good. Yeah, I'm good. What's you going
for dinner? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And that's a better place.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, it's a better place to talk about it and
not be mad, because it would be it would be
to a point where we would argue and then I'm like,
I'm not answering the phone for a week. Don't call me,
don't text me. You know, that's back ten years ago.
When you handle things like that kind of immature. Now
you talk about it, get over it and move on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
How did your family react to all of this?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh my gosh, it was funny. Some people was some
people was with it.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Not everybody. Not everybody was with it. And I was mom,
Mom was she was skeptical. Yeah, do you know what story?
She's like that fucking Nelly.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's why I saw, you know, she was not with it? Yeah,
a little bit, a little bit. He must see them
dancing and having a bread time vacations now.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Absolutely, because the one thing is him and my mom
used to talk on the phone for hours, you know
what I mean. Like it was crazy and she was like,
he's bad, He's bad. She knew though, she knew how
much he loved me and how much love was there,
you know what I mean. But she was hurt to
Everyone got hurt to a certain extent because everyone wanted
(10:57):
this to work and then it didn't, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
One of my favorite things about this podcast is we
hear your stories right and love to learn more about you,
but also like how it lands for other people, like
in their real life. And I imagine that there's a
lot of women out there who maybe had the one
that got that got away, or the one they always
kind of wonder about. Yeah, when do you.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Think what do you think spinning the block is okay?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I think it's okay when it's genuine and the feelings
are sincere, you know, and you've grown.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You can't be spinning.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
The block and hitting your head and on the same curve,
you know what I'm saying, Like you have.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
To grow from whatever the problem was earlier. You have
to grow from that.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And mature and understand each other, have a mutual respect,
and I think that's what made it special for us,
you know what I mean, Like, obviously we both dealt
with other people, and then you start to see things too.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Like damn, there's the one's so bad. You know, what
I had was actually pretty rad.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you know, so it's like, hmmm, sometimes you got
to go out and gets a few frogs.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Absolutely, absolutely, that's so funny.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And it worked out.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Man.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What have you learned about marriage?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What I've learned? I mean, it's fresh, right, It's like
you're not even like a year, is it now?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We are a year and change. You're a year and change.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
They say the first year is the hardest or the
best of the hardest. It's like you're working through all
the things that you gotta Yeah, you're positioning on things.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I think for us it's like a respect thing, you know.
And I feel like that's what took him a long
time to be ready to be married, because it's a
whole different level of respect and honor and loyalty and
just selflessness.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know what I mean. So I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh yeah, we have some arguments, but The thing too,
is like you could get mad all you want, you
ain't going nowhere, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So we it's like we work things out, you know,
and you don't cross that line your girlfriend and boyfriend.
You could do whatever, but when you're married, there's a
line of respect that you don't cross. And it's it's
it's it's prominent for both of us, you know what
I mean. So I think that's that's what I have learned.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, So then you get pregnant, by the way, you
wasted no time. We were like, we're gonna get right
back to this. You're having a baby. Yes, this was
when the last time you did the show, I said
to you, so what's next in your life? And you
were like, you know, I think I want to make
time to like be in a relationship. Maybe maybe you
were like you were, you were even before deciding that
(13:36):
you guys are gonna get back together, you were ready
for this time in your life.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, because you would have to.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Be right, Yeah, absolutely, it was.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I feel like I have absolutely manifested almost everything that
I wanted, you know what I mean, Like I spoke
that into existence at a.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Time where I didn't know what was gonna happen, you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So I genuinely was ready and speaking from a real place,
and you're you make yourself vulnerable. You know. I was
vulnerable because I really didn't know, you know, I was like,
I'm putting it out there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And yeah, absolutely you had.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Somebody in the sash what somebody you were thinking about
or you were just ready to you were just putting yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know it was you always
got a stash, not no more.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Remarried. You don't even remember those people talking about they
never existed at all. Wait, so, so, so you have
this moment you get pregnant. This is happy right away, right,
You're like thrilled right away, right away? You tell your mom, Yeah,
how's your mom about this?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh my gosh. It was.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was so crazy because thank god for technology, because
it was absolutely a FaceTime. We were in Saint Louis
and it was it was such a beautiful feeling, you
know because my mom and dad were like so emotional
and so happy.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I know, we never talked about your dad. Were always
like your mom.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, she's she's the one we know exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But your dad is a parent too.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Absolutely. Dad was so happy because you know, he's had
girls obviously, and this is like the first well not
the first boy, but obviously just my first boy.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So it was just so dope, uh, to see their reaction.
And my son, his middle name is named after my dad.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He was elated.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I mean, obviously we didn't know it was a boy
at first, but just the first time telling them, they
were so emotional and so excited.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Same with his parents, Yeah, it was, it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Was It was a time that's beautiful baby so excited.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Being a mom is like changes.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The game, It changes everything. Yes, tell me, tell me how,
Tell me what's Tell me what's the thing that nobody
told you? Was there anything that happened that you're like,
why did anybody say this to me?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Is there anything that has surprised you? I can't. It's a.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Surprised in that way, only because my mom and I
are so close, so she has told me so many things.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
What kind of surprised me is are those feelings You
don't know that until you feel it, you know what
I mean? So the the feeling when your baby is
crying and you know we're in the hospital that I
don't want nobody to touch them.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The doctors.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I was in pain. I was standing up with the
wires and shit.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Nah, I don't touch it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's too hard. I don't do that. Wait, it's too cold. Now,
you need a blanket, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like I'm you're in protective.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, immediately, selfless immediately.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I remember like going to doctor appointments, and like there
was one time I had to go to the hospital.
I got sick and I would take no antibiotics, no medicine,
and it got really bad, Like I got really sick,
I got the flu and all of that, and I
was just like, oh, I don't care about me.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't care about my lungs. Is my baby okay,
you know?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And the doctor's like, well, we care about you. You
have to be okay for your baby to be okay,
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So I don't think you can become prepared for that
until you feel it, really feel it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You don't know it until you really feel it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
What is he like?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh my god, he is like he's my best friend.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, he's like the sweetest little angel baby, Like he's
so funny.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He has such a big personality. He smiles and laughs
all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He's mad loud. He is so loud. For baby is
absolutely his parents child. Like, he's so loud. He's completing
all his milestones, like he's getting up.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
He's clapping. Now, he's ready here, he's seven months. Seven months,
he's pulling himself up in the crib. So like I'll
hear him and he'll be like, and that's him like planning.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
His feet to standum, standing up.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yes, he's fully standing up. And now he's doing this
thing where you'll be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, So
he's repeating. He can say hey, yes exactly, he say.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He's saying mama, not yet.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, he's big head, just trying to get him to
say daddy first.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm like, nah, my motherfucker is wasting no time with
a baby.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, girl, he was trying.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He was practicing again, I bet you were all the
years backed up baby.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I was like, shit, I've forgotten. I'm glad we got married,
nigga because.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Ship, now we know how he got her back.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Now we know how he got her back.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
How is he? What kind of dad is he? Because
I know he's a parent before. Yes, so you've witnessed
him as a father before. But you haven't witnessed him
at this stage in his life.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely not. It is the cutest thing. Oh
my gosh, just seeing him and just how he looks
at him and how he holds him and calling me man,
you know, like he's calling his daddy man as daddy
little man.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Like he's so.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's so in love. He loves him so so much,
and he tries sometimes he tries to be like a
little hard right. He's like, nah, you know, let him go,
he's good, he's good. To let him sit in his
little what they call the little skip hop, right, so
he's playing. He'll sit there for a minute. KK started
crying a little bit, and he'd be like, no, no,
you're good. He'll put his hands up, Okay, come on,
daddy man.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
He immediately melts, immediately melts. I'm like, oh, look at
this guy. Man.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So, who's going to be the Who's going to be
like the disciplinary?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Disciplinary?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Nobody's free.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
He runs the house.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He definitely runs the house. Runs the house.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Did you have any like postpartum issues or anything like that,
because I heard you had a great pregnancy, Like yeah,
no sickness, no sickness.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I performed to my eighth month.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
No, I didn't have that, thank God, like I would
have performed until the day delivered to Wow, are.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
You gonna do it again?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Are you trying already?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean it may not necessarily be trying, but we
practice it.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
You're gonna be pregnant by next month.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Don't say that tour Okay, you just said you can.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You can perform till the water breaks.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You'll be totally fine soon.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Did you come back from tours? Going down? Going down?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Pregnancy test pull out the pregnancy and what about like
postpartum or anything like that, did you experience any of
that or no?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
No, no postpartum thankfully, thank god, thank god. You know,
I pray for women that have experienced that, you know,
because it's hard, you know, it really is.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
What about like because there's always so much, you know,
you're a Shanti, there's always so much in your body
and how you were even talked about this the past
few interviews, how you was like in your sexy bag,
like everybody wanted to see what half addressed Shanti was
gonna come out inside, you know, outside with like your
body and your sexist was a thing. So after you
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have your baby. Obviously your your body changes. Did you
have any fear about, I don't know, coming back, any
pressure about like being a version of yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That you were before. I feel like, well, first of all,
you know I got these these big ones.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You're still breast feeding.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Bro, Yeah, I'm still breastfeeding, yo, but these are crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I did my first show in Hawaii and I had
on like a little brawlett and you know, I'm on
stage and I'm like, damn, I.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Don't like this too much too much, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'm just it's I just never had that big you know,
so and even my butt, you know, everything is kind
of just like growing.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But I'm just like, you know what, what's funny is.
You know, Nikki got that line in her record to
Big Titties, Big Butt two, and.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I was like, oh, I can say that now.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
You can do all the things.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But for me, obviously, I'm like, Okay, I got to
get back to my I call it BBK body before
before no beat?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
What does it before? KK?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Body before K.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
That's going to get back to my body before KK.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You know what I'm saying. And I definitely want to
get back you.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Know, but you're not putting pressure on yourself or it's
not super pressure. But I do want to get back
to me, you know what I mean, Like you know
I was. I stayed ready for the islands. I stayed
ready for the bikinis.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know what I mean. I had it on stash.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I used to travel with bikinis, just the case, just
the case.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
No, not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A couple of months, yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And then it's hard, like carving out time and having
that energy to get in the gym and do what
you need to do because I personally, you know, I'm
I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm not necessarily going
under the knife and all that stuff. So I'm gonna
go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So it's it's harder and it takes a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Really, would you never consider that so many women do that.
It's like it's not even a big deal anymore. I know,
it's just get snatched up, suck it out, and.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You're like, you know, I'm gonna go to the gym.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, I think I think part of me is a
little scared, you know that, like, oh, there's that one
percent that will and.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm like, that'll be the one percent. Like I'm the
fucking straight bullet, you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So I just, uh, I'm gonna say it to the gym.
I just get on the stair mask.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You look amazing already. So whatever you're working on, I'm sure, whatever,
but you look amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
But you know that, right, you feel good? Right, you
have to feel good.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I mean I feel good and I'm grateful that I'm
healthy and I didn't have any complications.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
You know, because it's scary.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You know, you hear stories and then some stories you
don't hear about until things are too late, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So I'm just super grateful that I'm good, I'm healthy,
and i'm you know that.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And you guys are doing a show. Yes, this is
different for you too. Absolutely Nelly has done reality show.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, but not you, not me.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
What goes into making that decision. See that's another thing
that I was like, Oh, I'm.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Never doing you said a lot of nevers.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I said a lot of nevers.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Gonna get back with never doing reality Like it's been
a lot of never.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I gotta chill out. The last time we were here,
I was like, nah, you're about to do this. You
get where, you're gonna have a baby, you're gonna get married,
you're gonna do a reality.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Show, you like, And she's stopping, he's talking to and
here you.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Are here, I am, so what is this show? How
about you showing see the baby or you're being protective.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Over the baby.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'm definitely being protective. Yeah, I just feel like, you know,
he's so new, and he's just he's mine, Well, he's ours,
and you know you have to share him.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I do have to share him, Nah, But I'm just
I just want to keep him for us right now,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But but you got to tune in to see if
you see a little sprinkle here and there, you know
what I mean, a little sprinkle here and there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
What made you decide to do that?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
This is my husband's idea.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh, this is like another stray.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Nelly's stray.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, No, I don't want to call it a stray.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But he's just, you know, he felt strongly like this
would be dope. It would give people a chance to
kind of know who we are outside of just on stage,
you know what I mean. It's a very visual world
and he's just like, nah, to be dope, you know.
And there's so much love and so much positivity that
has come from our union and coming back together, just
showing love and showing family and showing that you can
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work and do your thing and still have a family.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know what I mean. You have your career, you
have your love, your family and still make it work.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
How are you managing that though?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Like the balance because you still got a brand new baby,
still pumping milk.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yes, I was pumping before I got here.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Now you're doing interviews, shooting the show.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yes, getting ready to go on a tour. Yeah, it's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's a lot. It really is a lot. And I
think showing that hopefully inspires.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So we'll see all of that on the show.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, you know the fact we still don't know where
we're going to live, you know what I mean, Like
we don't have like a home home, you do you
mean we live in New York, We live in Saint Louis,
we live in Atlanta a little bit sometimes in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Like we're all over the place I live, and we
live in our suitcases, you know what I mean? With
the baby that is mad luggage.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You don't have like one house. No, that you share, No,
we share wherever we are. We share a house before.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, Well he has a house in Saint Louis. Right, yeah,
we have a house together. Sorry, you guys have a
house in Yes, we got a house in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We got a condo in New York, another house in
New York, thinking about a spot in Atlanta, thinking about
a spot in Nashville. We spent a lot of time
in La So we're all he has KK got like
five or six cribs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's crazy, five or six? Like is this life what
you thought like a younger you, when you think of
like settling down and getting married, Like, is it what
you thought it.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Was going to be?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Absolutely not. I didn't know I would be traveling this much,
and you know what I mean, taking my child on
tour with me, and.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You know, just moving so fast, like we're both moving
so fast. But the love, I mean, like, oh, the
love absolutely you know. I always wanted it. And it's
weird because when you're young, you think you want it young.
You know, when I was young, like.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
In high school, you're like, oh, I want to get
married at twenty one?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
She you know, you weren't ready, not at all.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Nobody's ready in the twenties. I mean most people are
not married. So I know there's some cases, but most
people are not.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Ready in their twenties. And so you think you did
it at the right time.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, I think this was the right timing. And it's
funny because sometimes we joke around and he's like, yeah,
we should did this ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I tried to you this ten years ago, you know,
but both of us were both like nine. It happened
when it was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You're the way you do his voice, it's insane, like
he's a crazy person and he just screams at you.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
No, he's super animated. We're both animated, which is which
is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But yeah, Oh, so the show's gonna be fun. Oh,
the show's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Oh, Nelly.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I don't know if I told you this. I don't
even know if he'll be mad I share this. But
we were doing those interviews and it was right after
verses and everybody was like, oh, he tried to shoot
his shot. Everybody was like clowning him, clowning him, but
like teasing them, teasing him. Yeah, like you to shoot
a shot, and then I asked you about it and
you were like, yeah, no, I wouldn't. He got like
bothered by that. I don't know even know I got.
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I got a phone call. I got a Nellys phone call,
and I.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Was like, Nelly's calling.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He was right, so you know, you couldn't defend me
when she said, but what I what I got it
was a really funny call. He was he was, but
I could tell that it bothered him a little bit.
But what it told me was like, oh, he like
why would I get this call? He didn't still care,
you know, like how you said when you're over something,
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you don't care.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I could tell he cared, and I was like, oh
he's bothered, Like he is, he cares. He was like, yeah,
I'm gonna get that back and fix.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
All this up right after that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
But I thought it was sweet, Like I was like, oh,
he's bothered because you didn't say nothing bad about him.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
But we're just like laughing and like I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Even remember what it was, but whatever it was, it warranted.
I got a phone call call, I.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Got a tax a phone call.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
He's gonna let you know, no, I got a voice
in person phone call. Oh have you have you started
any like, I don't know, do you have any traditions yet?
Like because you now you've had your first Christmas together,
you've had I mean the baby, well not the baby's
first birthday yet, but like, are you you're a new family.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, which must be fun, A lot of fun, A
lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Have you like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
We had Alicia Keys on and she was saying that
her in Swiss. By the way, you know this Alicia
keys trick that she's not trick thing that she does
on Christmas ever since she.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Was on the show.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I do it every Christmas in my family.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
That is it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
When she first said it, I was like, okay, and
then we tried it and I was like, this is
so dope. And now I'm on my third maybe no,
this was my third time doing it with the family.
It's she does this thing her in Swiss where they
have to do one handmade gift. They do like a
grab bag, but it has to be handmade and so
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then you have to show you pick the person and
then you make something for them and then you have
to show them what you made them and explain your gifts,
So like if I made you a basket filled with this,
or I made you a frame and I put these
little things, you explained it, and there's something so sweet
about your whole family kind of talking about what they
made for somebody. At first I was like, oh, that's cute,
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and then I did it. I was like, I love
and so I took it. I just wondered if you
had guys have started any tradition.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's funny that you say that, is this the first
time I'm saying, is my nephew.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Now that we're married, My nephew and his girlfriend actually
made KK a jersey and it's half Cardinals and half Yankees,
so it's so cute and says his name and his
birthdate in the back, and I was.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Like, oh my god, this is the best gift.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So I guess they kind of already.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Something that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's something beautiful too about like starting a new family
and starting your.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Own tradition, So we we definitely have to like incorporate it.
I think I think our tradition is going to be
always having both of our families involved or around all
a part, you know, because obviously my family's in New York.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
His family's in Saint Louis, so it's like, Okay, what
are we going to do.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
With your family? Seemed like a good time too.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh man.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And that's what's crazy. Both of our families are so
much alike and such a good time. Like my dad
and his dad on the phone all the time, singing.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Carry on, mom and his mom.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's like they be doing group calls on WhatsApp, and like,
you know, they invite us sometimes, but it is so
funny to like look at them and look at their
group chats and you know they be on.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's a blessing, it really is.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What have you learned? Have your mother given you any
like good.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Mothering tips, mothering tips for like being.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
A mom or like a wife, either one, patience with both,
patience with both?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, were absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Your baby will if anybody's going to try your patience
in a lifetime, and it is your child is your child,
they know because it's the softest part of your heart,
like you can get at that.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
That's the one thing that's scary. The one thing that's
scary is you never expect someone or something to have
that much control, you know, Like I couldn't even imagine,
you know, if him getting hurt or him falling.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Or him that you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's yeah, that fear of someone or something having that
much control over your feelings.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know if I'm ready for that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We did last you better get ready. We did the
last episode we did with Lauren.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Lauren writing Girl was on her and she.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Was saying, people don't tell you that when you become
a mother, you never have like you don't have a
fully good.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Sleep ever again.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh life.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You know who just said that to me, Billy Baldwin
because he's in the film as well, and you know,
obviously we talked about KK and he was like, oh,
you're never going to sleep the same again.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You know, what's an interesting conversation. I'm wondering your take
on this, especially because you're so close with your mother.
A conversation that came up in the last episode and
I had never heard it, Like, this is so interesting
thing like, as a mother, our job is to fill
our children's cup, right to take care of them, to
fill their cup. This was Lauren's thing too, and I
thought it was so interesting and she said, what's heartbreaking?
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What's heartbreaking?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Reality?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
As a mother is that it is not your child's
job to fill your cup. You so you're a mom,
and then you will stop trying. You will jump in
front of a moving bus.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
For your child.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You will not eat so your kid could eat, sleep
on the floor so your kid can sleep on the bed.
And it is your parents' job to fill your child's cup.
But as a parent sometimes it's you have to know
that it's really not a child's job to fill the
parent's cup. Of course they love you, of course your
kids do anything for you, but.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's not their job.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's not there to take care of you until maybe.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You're old and you need to.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
But I mean it's just an interesting and a little
bit of a heartbreaking it's realization as a parent, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I mean, for you, you got a.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Young baby, He's gonna cling on it a cherish the
way he clings on that leg that cries when you leave,
you know, But as they get older that changes.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
No, absolutely, I mean I feel like.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
As a parent, if you do the best job, and
do an amazing job and do everything you can, it's
going to be naturally reciprocated.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
So when I do things for my Mom. It comes
out of just genuine love and just because I want to,
and I can.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
When I buy my mama car, or buy my mama condo,
or buy my mom some jewelry, you know what I mean,
that's me kind of pouring back in because I've been
poured in so much, so it kind of just reciprocal
and it just happens in an organic way, you know
what I mean. So for me, I want to do
that because I know how special that is and I
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know how deep that is, and you know, we have
an amazing bond. So it's not I don't think she
expects it, you know, But for me, it's like a given,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
So it's not really a second thought.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, I'm sure there's times if I put your mother
in the seat, maybe next time, maybe next time we
want to put Mama Jur in the seat. I'm sure
there's times in your life, maybe a younger you in
your twenties, where your mother was probably going through something
and you had no idea and you was off worried
about your own life.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Probably Yeah, I'm going to the sleep over.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You good, and you're like not even thinking about your
mother because because as kids we don't. We don't see that.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
You don't see that, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, it's really torturous, it's really terrible. You have a
long way for that, so cherished, all those beautiful moments
with the baby's a baby on you. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So we got the movie coming out today.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's an amazing film. I'm so happy to be a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's all different dress. It's a different role for.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You, Yeah, completely different role for me.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I play an ex veteran that is addicted to drugs
and I end up homeless. And it's five different people
from five different walks of life becoming homeless and living
in this encampment. And it's just, you know, it's dope
to be a part of a project that could create
awareness because it's kind of like a global crisis.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like you go outside even now, you see homeless people.
You look at it.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
It's so sad espe now in New York, it's so cold.
I see people sometimes it breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah yeah, and it's like we have the resources, we
have the power.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So the film kind of what is conversation that.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I learned to be less judgmental. You know, it genuinely
can happen to any of us. You could be one
paycheck away from becoming homeless, you know what I mean.
And there's a character that that happens to. He's married,
he's working, he has a child, he falls behind on bills,
it's a whole story.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
But he ends up being homeless.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So it's kind of there as a tool to teach us, like, yo,
don't judge and stop dehumanizing people. People don't choose to
be homeless. You don't want to be home, you don't
want to be addicted to drugs. So it it's a
film about having more compassion and just show me more
love and being more kind, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
So I was.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I was really happy and grateful to be a part
of it and I eped ad in there all good, Yes, absolutely,
I mean well, I am releasing new music, super super
excited about that.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I got a record called called You Up.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
It's coming out in April. I shot the video in
Bermuda so and that was the BBK you know body
before KK Okay, So I'm excited about that. Going on
tour to the UK in April.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I have to just because it's the elephant in the room,
and this just happened. I have to ask you. First
of all, I thought the way that you responded, you
reacted to IRV passing was so classy.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I thought she said the perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And I just I just wonder how that has affected
you or how you you have been processing that, because
it was unexpected.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Definitely unexpected. It was a lot to process, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
It was a lot of.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Different feelings and emotions, you know. And I think, honestly,
what I said is really how I feel.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You know. It's like I.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Was just I was really sad and I'm still sad that,
you know, it ended like this, you know what I mean,
because there was a time where things was just like amazing,
you know, and I know in my heart that I
always just wanted peace for both of us, you know
what I mean, for us to be cordial.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I wished peace for him. I prayed for him
to be at peace. And you just you don't really
see this coming, you know what I mean, Like it
really just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know. Did you think you'd have the opportunity where
you could maybe have some like something cordial.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I really wanted it to happen, you know, because I'm like, yo, Like,
like I said, we made history together. You know that
is infinite, Like we're talking about my son. My son
is gonna know that we made these records together, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I'm sad that the last few years we weren't
seeing eye to eye. What I do know is that
I tried, you know, I do know that I extended
the islive branch, and I do know that again, I
tried to just I just wanted things to be cool,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I didn't want to know smoke.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
You know, you caught a lot of strays in that situation.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh my gosh, y you handled it with such grace though,
baby like really like you couldn't have handled it better.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
And I was thinking about this when I was reading
what you wrote.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
You said, like I have always said, even through like
the ugliest parts of this, I'm paraphrasing, but what I
felt from you was like, even through the ugliest parts
of this, you have always given him the credit of
changing your life, absolutely bringing out the best in you creatively.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, that'll never change. Even in the interview that we did,
you know what I mean, Even though we weren't on
great terms, and that was like the peak of like.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
And dead. And that's.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Because I genuinely will always feel grateful. I will always
be thankful, you know, and be honest about all of that.
And obviously, you know, I spoke with all the guys.
It's the whole situation was just so sudden, you know,
And I don't know, it's just it's just really hard
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to kind of wrap your mind around everything, especially like
for me, I have so many amazing things happening in
my life right now, you know, and it's just so positive.
And honestly, when you're in such a good place, you
wish everybody well, even if you're not getting along.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
It's like you want to kind of give off some
of that that positive energy, that that good love.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So, yeah, they spoke the job.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah, Yeah, we were in Hawaii together and I sent
like a bunch of you know, arrangements and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, yeah, it was, you know, it was.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's it's sad, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Tough on everybody, you know, makes you cherish the days, yeah,
because you just you never know. Joe Is he sent
me a nice note the other day too, But he's like,
you know, he's he's hurting, but he's living to you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He's got a beautiful family.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, are you guys still close to the is he se?
The baby? Is he? Is he?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Uncle John?
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Gosh?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, Jah had him up in the symbol polls, you know,
the lion king.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Oh my gosh, while we're in we were in Hawaii,
and it's just it was really cool to see, you know,
each had him.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
She wasn't putting him down. Each's his wife.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
So yeah, I was so happy when they were finally
able to meet, you know, because we've done we've done
a couple of face times, but he's like.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Oh, Bonnie looking up. We got Bonnie face, you know,
and then we were going back and forth. Now you
look a little bit like Moe.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Nah, you look like Bonnie.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
It was it was cool.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
It's so nice to have so much history with people.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, especially nowadays, and especially in this industry, you know
what I mean. Like having genuine love and genuine people
support you and hold you down is very slim. So yeah,
I'm grateful.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Our final IRL questions, are you ready in real life?
How happy are you.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Today?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
On a scale of one to ten.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
On a scale of one to ten, I'm gonna give
it about a thousand thousand.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Is that every day?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I mean, it's not every day.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'm grateful though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
You know, there's definitely disappointments and things that you want
to happen that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
But I am so genuinely.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Happy and authentically myself with my family that whatever is
not working, you roll it off and you move on
because the happiness outweighs it.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
How important is that thing where you just said, like
finding somebody that you could be authentically yourself, Like, how important.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Is that in the equation of happiness? Oh man, it's everything.
It's everything.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
If I can't walk.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Around without my wig, you know what I mean, like
when your.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Box is on and you know, just regular that's not
for me.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
You know, it's so important to just be authentically yourself
and have your person and you guys just get each.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Other without trying.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Obviously there's going to be things that you learned about
each other, and there's things that you don't like, you
know what I mean. But when you can get past
whatever the flaws are and you genuinely have that love.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
That's like magic is magical.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
My girl said a thousand in real life? What do
you pray for most.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
In real life? At this very moment, I pray for
my son the most. I pray with my son. I
pray for my husband. I pray for all of us,
and I pray for my family just health, happiness, sanity, safety.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
We're flying a lot, we're traveling, we're on the bus,
so I pray that we are covered and protected.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
How often do you think about your legacy in real life?
Like now? Maybe now different right, like.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
A little differently now again being a mom, Like I
don't want to say I forget about myself.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I just put my baby and my family kind of first,
you know what I mean, Because I know I'm going
to be good.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
I love my husband and he got us, so I
know I'm going to be good. So I want to
make sure that home is good and taken care of,
you know. And then legacy is like.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
You never want to lose yourself in your family.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
But I know that I'll be able to do what
I want to do because I have an amazing support system.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
I remember somebody told me that long time ago, when
I was single, I was like, I don't have time
for a man.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
They were like, well, you know that if.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
You get the right man, you actually can go further.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
It never even occurred to me when I was younger.
I used to think, a man, it's just a distress
some of the things I want to do in my career. Yeah,
but when you get the right one, you both grow
and evolved, you know, as a tall looking at your
life and how far you come. I mean, you could
look at both the episodes and there's so much evolution,
and that's just this part.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Of your life.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
If you look at the whole journey, somebody who's been
a fan of yours since the beginning, and watch your life.
What do you hope that people take from your life? Like,
what do you hope that people could learn?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I hope that people are inspired and motivated to, like
get out there, follow your heart, do your best, be fearless,
don't be scared to make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
When you do make a mistake, get back up, try again.
Spending the block might not be but everybody, but it
worked for me.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
You know, be yourself unapologetically and authentically you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
And I want people to take away that.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I love what I do.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
I'm a writer.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
I love being able to relate to people through music,
and music is just such a beautiful thing. Oh that's
one thing I have to say to KK is infatuated
with music, like he has.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Keyboards, he has like heard us sing to him. And
first of all, he doesn't cry.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
He only cries, maybe like if he's wet or if
he's super hungry, he whins, but he doesn't like cry.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Cry with tears.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Tears.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Right, So if he's like.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Whining or crying or upset about something, I start singing.
He's like, it is the most like it melts my heart.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It is like the most.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Beautiful thing for him to be so young and received
that concept, you know of music. Oh my god, I
gotta show you this video before we leave to wait.
So this is when he was only literally maybe a
couple of weeks old. I did him laying on my
chest and I was singing.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Smile for me, daddy, let me see your grill.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Right, I was singing, why he smile? Oh my god,
I cried, Why is that so smiled? God? It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I'm gonna show you the videos.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
You're so in love all.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Right and lasting? Where is Ashanti in.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Five years from now?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Who? Five? Because you really manifested what's happening with your
life right now? You really the last time we told
you you manifested what you said's gonna happen is exactly
where you are right now.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
So where are you in five years from now?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
In five years from now, we definitely have multiple children.
The empire is huge.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
I have already delved into a whole new world of
children's I don't want to say entertainment, but.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
I want to do stuff in that world just expanded.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
You know, me and my husband have a whole other
company that's just flourishing and you know, doing big things and.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Being better. So yeah, I think that's where I see.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
So just more of this, more of this one thought.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
By the way, if it stays like this and you're
at a thousand, that's a good life. That's a great life.
That's a great life.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Just wait till that noise question.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, y'all in the hood, Why is all the police
over there?
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Ship? Oh my god? This is what we can afford
in five years? When another when when the studio, the
Angie Martinez stio. We've seen that studio.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Let God Year studio.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Let me say, let me say you say it. Because
you don't manifest. We should. We should have done a
whole show about how to manifest, the way manifests. What
is the key to your manifesting my manifestation? What do
you do?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Do you really believe everything you say? Or is it
that you pray on it or is it that you
just absolutely pray on it. I really do pray on it,
and I'm not gonna lie to you. I wrote some
stuff down and I put it in a Bible years
ago I moved. I found the Bible and I was like,
oh so I definitely did that tell.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Me how this goes? Because people might want to know
how to do this?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
No serious.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
I rede the list.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I wrote the list. I wrote everything I.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Wanted, right, okay, it owns the building, the building, everything
that you want that's in your heart. I wrote it down.
I opened up the Bible, the scripture that it landed on.
I put the paper in the Bible, I closed it.
I forgot about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I just let it rock.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
And I feel like when you make yourself vulnerable and
you put it out there, the right stuff comes back,
you know what I mean, because you already.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Know I don't really do a lot of just putting
everything out.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So when I made that statement, I even felt I
was being vulnerable because I didn't know, like I said,
you know, my.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Little stashers that were none serious, that was you know,
So I really didn't have anyone that I was really
thinking about that with.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
So just put it out there, yeah, and put it
in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
And wait and wait for it to happen.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
I'm putting mad stuff in
Speaker 1 (52:10):
The Bible, chanting on a thousand everybody, Hey, shant
Edge Martinez in Real Life Podcast A shottingest back guy. Yo,
you are my first reoccurring guests on IRL.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I have never repeated a guest. But we are so
invested in your life at this point and so much
has changed that and we're just coming back with a
new season.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I congratulations, thank.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You baby, Well, congratulations to you on the laundry list
of things that we're gonna get to today. But it
just felt like, I don't know, we're so happy for
you now. You know, mom, do you feel like that?
Do you feel like the love?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I definitely feel the love. It's been a journey, you
know what I mean, it's been a journey.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So you know, you you you open up your social
media and you see just an outpouring of love. It's
just like, ah, that feels great.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So your life in the past two years is like
a different.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Life, completely different, like who who are you now versus
who you were that day when we were in Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We shot it in Canada.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Because you're on set.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, Oh my goodness, I am a mother and a
wife now, completely different. I did not see this coming
at all the last time we said.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know, it's so interesting when I thought that there
may be a little window open is I asked you
about Nellie and the time that you had dated that
first time around, and I was like, I asked you,
what did you learn from yourself in that relationship? And
you said to me that he checked you because the
way you used to talk to him, and that he
would say, don't we don't talk to each other like that,
(01:37):
and you thought that that made you better. And the
way you told that story, I was like, wait a minute,
something is It's not. It wasn't told with like the
venom of an X. It was told that there was
still like a little bit of a soft spot for
that time. Maybe this was right after versus.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh so this was after running for the hug?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It was awkward. Everybody was like, and something happened.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
From then to now A lot happened clearly, So okay,
So if it was after versus, it was definitely a
place where I was open to what he was saying,
Like I was listening to what he was saying instead
of being angry and mad.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, how come just because of how he was Because.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Like what shifted?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I think growth and maturity and if we're being completely honest,
he said that to me like super early on, you
know what I mean, Like this was like, you know,
my mind is crazy, like I'm out like a pirate,
like sour, like it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So you know, I just you know, and I'm from
New York.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He's from the Midwest, so you know, they're different, Like
they're very polite and very you know, and I'm very
you know, so very early on in some of our
conversations a little heated, he'd be like yo, yo ya.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, like what we're not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
This is not gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So he turned.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
He told me that very early on, and I.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Was like, this was the first time when you were
this was like the first go round.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So I was like, hmm, nobody ever said that to
me before, you know, But when I received it differently the.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Next time around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This time around, Yeah, oh he had to come back
and check you again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, the mouth, it's not crazy anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's goods. Calm down, don't be nuts.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But wait, but please, what are you.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Willing to share?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Because like what happened? What went from like no, even
some of the interviews. I think we did an interview
on the radio and you was like, yeah, no, I'm
not spinning the block. Nobody's spinning the block. It went
from that to like, wait a minute, and Nelly were seeing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Somewhere, and then it went fast.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
It went so fast.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I think what happened, honestly, was communication. I think that look,
I didn't know he was obviously gonna be everse. I
didn't know that he was going to come over and
give me a hug. I didn't know my DJ actually
gave him my number a couple of months after that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, and the first text I was like three
one four, what.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But communication and the first our first or second conversation,
I'm not gonna lie, it was a little heated because
there were a lot of buried emotions. You know, it
had been with seven years, eight years or so, and
it was a lot of buried emotions and a lot
of things that I didn't know about how he felt
and vice versa.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So it took me listening, It took both of us listening,
to be honest.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wow, and yeah, I probably couldn't do when you were younger.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's the thing I was just about to say, I
wish we would have communicated a little bit more but
that was, like I said, seven eight years ago, we
were both in a different mental space, you know. So
now it's just like, Okay, you hear and receive things differently.
You know, you're older and you're more mature, you've experienced
life more.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And when did you think, wait, this might just be
more than healing.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Clearly a window has to be open where you're open
to what this could be. Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Think on our was it our first.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Or second date?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Maybe the first kind of day started dating again?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Circles.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I can't even believe it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You have to hide because you don't want people to
see you guys day.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was so bizarre. We weren't like super hiding.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But we weren't you know street Yeah, you know, we
definitely didn't go to Noble, but we did.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We were in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Our first I think our first reconnected date was in
Vegas and it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Was so crazy. It was around Valance Scien's Day and
we took a trip to Delce and he took but
you know what's crazy, He was like, well you not
my girlfriend? Yes, so I'm only spending ten thousands when
you become my girl again then, you know, so I'm like,
oh god, it was it was hilarious. But the thing
(06:18):
for me was like I couldn't believe that I had
those feelings again, you know what I mean? Like I
was just like, wait a minute, all these feelings were going,
like how was that even happening?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I never ever expected those feelings to come back.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
How we could think we know ourselves and our whole
insides and how we feel, and all of a sudden
you feel differently about something.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Absolutely, there's no like are you feeling this on day?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Saying like there's You couldn't have paid me to say
I would have lost everything had I bet, you know
what I mean? If someone would have said bet everything
that you and Nelly would be back take it all,
that ain't never gonna happen, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Was that because you were angry maybe or misunderstanding you
just closed you know what it was?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I got past the anger, and you know when they say, like,
when you're not mad anymore, you're really over it. You know,
there was a time where I was like cut all
his music or don't play none of his ship.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You know what I'm saying if I'm beforeming, y'all wanting
up to don't play no Nelly shit, you know what
I'm saying at the party whatever, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And then it got to a place where I was like,
I don't care, you could play it, you know what
I mean? Yeah, I didn't care anymore. So when you
get to a place that it doesn't affect you and
you just don't care, that signifies that it's.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's it's over and you're done with it, you know
what I mean. I can look at a picture and like, oh,
he looks nice.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Before it'd be like, you know what I'm saying, you
were really like on the other side of it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
It was in the beginning I was mad, you know
what I mean. But then, like I said, I got
to a place where I didn't care.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then I got to a place where.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You were open.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm married and have a.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Child and here we are.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, what amazing love story. It's like.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And there's always a lot of talk about circling the block,
like is that a good thing? Some people say I
would never What have you learned about that? Like re
entering a relationship that you had been in already and
clearly you both probably did things wrong. You weren't listening
to each other things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What I've learned is to never say never. That's number one.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
And what's meant to be will be regardless of how
you feel, what you think the timing was in a
universe for you will be there regardless, you know what
I mean. And I feel like we both kind of
knew each other's heart, and I feel like we both
got hurt and we both were in our stances and
then and then I mean not to sound fairy talish,
(08:42):
but I feel like God kind of just strings you
with who you're supposed to be with at the time,
you know what I mean. And when we did get
back together, the craziest thing was, it didn't feel like
seven years.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Had gone by, Like we just snapped back into you know,
three four like it felt and.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Never like an alarm of like or a fear of
like old problems or old issues or are you able
to kind of just roll past that? You know what.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I wouldn't say was there a fear of it. I
think we both were just Okay, what's gonna happen, you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Know what I mean, Like we're gonna try it out.
And see.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know, obviously at first you start out just the
dating and being around each other again and all of that.
But I guess around the first argument we both handled
it in such a great way, you know what I mean.
It was just like, you know, you do this and
you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
All right, you're good. Yeah, I'm good. What's you going
for dinner? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And that's a better place.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, it's a better place to talk about it and
not be mad, because it would be it would be
to a point where we would argue and then I'm like,
I'm not answering the phone for a week. Don't call me,
don't text me. You know, that's back ten years ago.
When you handle things like that kind of immature. Now
you talk about it, get over it and move on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
How did your family react to all of this?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh my gosh, it was funny. Some people was some
people was with it.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Not everybody. Not everybody was with it. And I was mom,
Mom was she was skeptical. Yeah, do you know what story?
She's like that fucking Nelly.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's why I saw, you know, she was not with it? Yeah,
a little bit, a little bit. He must see them
dancing and having a bread time vacations now.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Absolutely, because the one thing is him and my mom
used to talk on the phone for hours, you know
what I mean. Like it was crazy and she was like,
he's bad, He's bad. She knew though, she knew how
much he loved me and how much love was there,
you know what I mean. But she was hurt to
Everyone got hurt to a certain extent because everyone wanted
(10:57):
this to work and then it didn't, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
One of my favorite things about this podcast is we
hear your stories right and love to learn more about you,
but also like how it lands for other people, like
in their real life. And I imagine that there's a
lot of women out there who maybe had the one
that got that got away, or the one they always
kind of wonder about. Yeah, when do you.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Think what do you think spinning the block is okay?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I think it's okay when it's genuine and the feelings
are sincere, you know, and you've grown.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You can't be spinning.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
The block and hitting your head and on the same curve,
you know what I'm saying, Like you have.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
To grow from whatever the problem was earlier. You have
to grow from that.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And mature and understand each other, have a mutual respect,
and I think that's what made it special for us,
you know what I mean, Like, obviously we both dealt
with other people, and then you start to see things too.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Like damn, there's the one's so bad. You know, what
I had was actually pretty rad.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you know, so it's like, hmmm, sometimes you got
to go out and gets a few frogs.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Absolutely, absolutely, that's so funny.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And it worked out.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Man.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What have you learned about marriage?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What I've learned? I mean, it's fresh, right, It's like
you're not even like a year, is it now?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We are a year and change. You're a year and change.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
They say the first year is the hardest or the
best of the hardest. It's like you're working through all
the things that you gotta Yeah, you're positioning on things.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I think for us it's like a respect thing, you know.
And I feel like that's what took him a long
time to be ready to be married, because it's a
whole different level of respect and honor and loyalty and
just selflessness.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know what I mean. So I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh yeah, we have some arguments, but The thing too,
is like you could get mad all you want, you
ain't going nowhere, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So we it's like we work things out, you know,
and you don't cross that line your girlfriend and boyfriend.
You could do whatever, but when you're married, there's a
line of respect that you don't cross. And it's it's
it's it's prominent for both of us, you know what
I mean. So I think that's that's what I have learned.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, So then you get pregnant, by the way, you
wasted no time. We were like, we're gonna get right
back to this. You're having a baby. Yes, this was
when the last time you did the show, I said
to you, so what's next in your life? And you
were like, you know, I think I want to make
time to like be in a relationship. Maybe maybe you
were like you were, you were even before deciding that
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you guys are gonna get back together, you were ready
for this time in your life.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, because you would have to.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Be right, Yeah, absolutely, it was.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I feel like I have absolutely manifested almost everything that
I wanted, you know what I mean, Like I spoke
that into existence at a.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Time where I didn't know what was gonna happen, you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So I genuinely was ready and speaking from a real place,
and you're you make yourself vulnerable. You know. I was
vulnerable because I really didn't know, you know, I was like,
I'm putting it out there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And yeah, absolutely you had.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Somebody in the sash what somebody you were thinking about
or you were just ready to you were just putting yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know it was you always
got a stash, not no more.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Remarried. You don't even remember those people talking about they
never existed at all. Wait, so, so, so you have
this moment you get pregnant. This is happy right away, right,
You're like thrilled right away, right away? You tell your mom, Yeah,
how's your mom about this?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh my gosh. It was.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was so crazy because thank god for technology, because
it was absolutely a FaceTime. We were in Saint Louis
and it was it was such a beautiful feeling, you
know because my mom and dad were like so emotional
and so happy.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I know, we never talked about your dad. Were always
like your mom.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, she's she's the one we know exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But your dad is a parent too.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Absolutely. Dad was so happy because you know, he's had
girls obviously, and this is like the first well not
the first boy, but obviously just my first boy.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So it was just so dope, uh, to see their reaction.
And my son, his middle name is named after my dad.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He was elated.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I mean, obviously we didn't know it was a boy
at first, but just the first time telling them, they
were so emotional and so excited.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Same with his parents, Yeah, it was, it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Was It was a time that's beautiful baby so excited.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Being a mom is like changes.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The game, It changes everything. Yes, tell me, tell me how,
Tell me what's Tell me what's the thing that nobody
told you? Was there anything that happened that you're like,
why did anybody say this to me?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Is there anything that has surprised you? I can't. It's a.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Surprised in that way, only because my mom and I
are so close, so she has told me so many things.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
What kind of surprised me is are those feelings You
don't know that until you feel it, you know what
I mean? So the the feeling when your baby is
crying and you know we're in the hospital that I
don't want nobody to touch them.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The doctors.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I was in pain. I was standing up with the
wires and shit.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Nah, I don't touch it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's too hard. I don't do that. Wait, it's too cold. Now,
you need a blanket, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like I'm you're in protective.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, immediately, selfless immediately.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I remember like going to doctor appointments, and like there
was one time I had to go to the hospital.
I got sick and I would take no antibiotics, no medicine,
and it got really bad, Like I got really sick,
I got the flu and all of that, and I
was just like, oh, I don't care about me.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't care about my lungs. Is my baby okay,
you know?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And the doctor's like, well, we care about you. You
have to be okay for your baby to be okay,
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So I don't think you can become prepared for that
until you feel it, really feel it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You don't know it until you really feel it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
What is he like?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh my god, he is like he's my best friend.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, he's like the sweetest little angel baby, Like he's
so funny.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He has such a big personality. He smiles and laughs
all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He's mad loud. He is so loud. For baby is
absolutely his parents child. Like, he's so loud. He's completing
all his milestones, like he's getting up.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
He's clapping. Now, he's ready here, he's seven months. Seven months,
he's pulling himself up in the crib. So like I'll
hear him and he'll be like, and that's him like planning.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
His feet to standum, standing up.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yes, he's fully standing up. And now he's doing this
thing where you'll be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, So
he's repeating. He can say hey, yes exactly, he say.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He's saying mama, not yet.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, he's big head, just trying to get him to
say daddy first.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm like, nah, my motherfucker is wasting no time with
a baby.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, girl, he was trying.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He was practicing again, I bet you were all the
years backed up baby.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I was like, shit, I've forgotten. I'm glad we got married,
nigga because.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Ship, now we know how he got her back.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Now we know how he got her back.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
How is he? What kind of dad is he? Because
I know he's a parent before. Yes, so you've witnessed
him as a father before. But you haven't witnessed him
at this stage in his life.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely not. It is the cutest thing. Oh
my gosh, just seeing him and just how he looks
at him and how he holds him and calling me man,
you know, like he's calling his daddy man as daddy
little man.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Like he's so.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's so in love. He loves him so so much,
and he tries sometimes he tries to be like a
little hard right. He's like, nah, you know, let him go,
he's good, he's good. To let him sit in his
little what they call the little skip hop, right, so
he's playing. He'll sit there for a minute. KK started
crying a little bit, and he'd be like, no, no,
you're good. He'll put his hands up, Okay, come on,
daddy man.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
He immediately melts, immediately melts. I'm like, oh, look at
this guy. Man.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So, who's going to be the Who's going to be
like the disciplinary?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Disciplinary?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Nobody's free.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
He runs the house.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He definitely runs the house. Runs the house.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Did you have any like postpartum issues or anything like that,
because I heard you had a great pregnancy, Like yeah,
no sickness, no sickness.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I performed to my eighth month.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
No, I didn't have that, thank God, like I would
have performed until the day delivered to Wow, are.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
You gonna do it again?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Are you trying already?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean it may not necessarily be trying, but we
practice it.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
You're gonna be pregnant by next month.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Don't say that tour Okay, you just said you can.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You can perform till the water breaks.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You'll be totally fine soon.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Did you come back from tours? Going down? Going down?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Pregnancy test pull out the pregnancy and what about like
postpartum or anything like that, did you experience any of
that or no?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
No, no postpartum thankfully, thank god, thank god. You know,
I pray for women that have experienced that, you know,
because it's hard, you know, it really is.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
What about like because there's always so much, you know,
you're a Shanti, there's always so much in your body
and how you were even talked about this the past
few interviews, how you was like in your sexy bag,
like everybody wanted to see what half addressed Shanti was
gonna come out inside, you know, outside with like your
body and your sexist was a thing. So after you
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have your baby. Obviously your your body changes. Did you
have any fear about, I don't know, coming back, any
pressure about like being a version of yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That you were before. I feel like, well, first of all,
you know I got these these big ones.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You're still breast feeding.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Bro, Yeah, I'm still breastfeeding, yo, but these are crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I did my first show in Hawaii and I had
on like a little brawlett and you know, I'm on
stage and I'm like, damn, I.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Don't like this too much too much, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'm just it's I just never had that big you know,
so and even my butt, you know, everything is kind
of just like growing.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But I'm just like, you know what, what's funny is.
You know, Nikki got that line in her record to
Big Titties, Big Butt two, and.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I was like, oh, I can say that now.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
You can do all the things.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But for me, obviously, I'm like, Okay, I got to
get back to my I call it BBK body before
before no beat?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
What does it before? KK?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Body before K.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
That's going to get back to my body before KK.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You know what I'm saying. And I definitely want to
get back you.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Know, but you're not putting pressure on yourself or it's
not super pressure. But I do want to get back
to me, you know what I mean, Like you know
I was. I stayed ready for the islands. I stayed
ready for the bikinis.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know what I mean. I had it on stash.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I used to travel with bikinis, just the case, just
the case.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
No, not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A couple of months, yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And then it's hard, like carving out time and having
that energy to get in the gym and do what
you need to do because I personally, you know, I'm
I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm not necessarily going
under the knife and all that stuff. So I'm gonna
go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So it's it's harder and it takes a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Really, would you never consider that so many women do that.
It's like it's not even a big deal anymore. I know,
it's just get snatched up, suck it out, and.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You're like, you know, I'm gonna go to the gym.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, I think I think part of me is a
little scared, you know that, like, oh, there's that one
percent that will and.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm like, that'll be the one percent. Like I'm the
fucking straight bullet, you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So I just, uh, I'm gonna say it to the gym.
I just get on the stair mask.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You look amazing already. So whatever you're working on, I'm sure, whatever,
but you look amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
But you know that, right, you feel good? Right, you
have to feel good.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I mean I feel good and I'm grateful that I'm
healthy and I didn't have any complications.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
You know, because it's scary.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You know, you hear stories and then some stories you
don't hear about until things are too late, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So I'm just super grateful that I'm good, I'm healthy,
and i'm you know that.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And you guys are doing a show. Yes, this is
different for you too. Absolutely Nelly has done reality show.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, but not you, not me.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
What goes into making that decision. See that's another thing
that I was like, Oh, I'm.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Never doing you said a lot of nevers.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I said a lot of nevers.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Gonna get back with never doing reality Like it's been
a lot of never.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I gotta chill out. The last time we were here,
I was like, nah, you're about to do this. You
get where, you're gonna have a baby, you're gonna get married,
you're gonna do a reality.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Show, you like, And she's stopping, he's talking to and
here you.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Are here, I am, so what is this show? How
about you showing see the baby or you're being protective.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Over the baby.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'm definitely being protective. Yeah, I just feel like, you know,
he's so new, and he's just he's mine, Well, he's ours,
and you know you have to share him.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I do have to share him, Nah, But I'm just
I just want to keep him for us right now,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But but you got to tune in to see if
you see a little sprinkle here and there, you know
what I mean, a little sprinkle here and there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
What made you decide to do that?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
This is my husband's idea.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh, this is like another stray.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Nelly's stray.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, No, I don't want to call it a stray.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But he's just, you know, he felt strongly like this
would be dope. It would give people a chance to
kind of know who we are outside of just on stage,
you know what I mean. It's a very visual world
and he's just like, nah, to be dope, you know.
And there's so much love and so much positivity that
has come from our union and coming back together, just
showing love and showing family and showing that you can
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work and do your thing and still have a family.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know what I mean. You have your career, you
have your love, your family and still make it work.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
How are you managing that though?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Like the balance because you still got a brand new baby,
still pumping milk.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yes, I was pumping before I got here.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Now you're doing interviews, shooting the show.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yes, getting ready to go on a tour. Yeah, it's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's a lot. It really is a lot. And I
think showing that hopefully inspires.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So we'll see all of that on the show.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, you know the fact we still don't know where
we're going to live, you know what I mean, Like
we don't have like a home home, you do you
mean we live in New York, We live in Saint Louis,
we live in Atlanta a little bit sometimes in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Like we're all over the place I live, and we
live in our suitcases, you know what I mean? With
the baby that is mad luggage.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You don't have like one house. No, that you share, No,
we share wherever we are. We share a house before.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, Well he has a house in Saint Louis. Right, yeah,
we have a house together. Sorry, you guys have a
house in Yes, we got a house in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We got a condo in New York, another house in
New York, thinking about a spot in Atlanta, thinking about
a spot in Nashville. We spent a lot of time
in La So we're all he has KK got like
five or six cribs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's crazy, five or six? Like is this life what
you thought like a younger you, when you think of
like settling down and getting married, Like, is it what
you thought it.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Was going to be?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Absolutely not. I didn't know I would be traveling this much,
and you know what I mean, taking my child on
tour with me, and.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You know, just moving so fast, like we're both moving
so fast. But the love, I mean, like, oh, the
love absolutely you know. I always wanted it. And it's
weird because when you're young, you think you want it young.
You know, when I was young, like.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
In high school, you're like, oh, I want to get
married at twenty one?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
She you know, you weren't ready, not at all.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Nobody's ready in the twenties. I mean most people are
not married. So I know there's some cases, but most
people are not.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Ready in their twenties. And so you think you did
it at the right time.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, I think this was the right timing. And it's
funny because sometimes we joke around and he's like, yeah,
we should did this ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I tried to you this ten years ago, you know,
but both of us were both like nine. It happened
when it was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You're the way you do his voice, it's insane, like
he's a crazy person and he just screams at you.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
No, he's super animated. We're both animated, which is which
is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But yeah, Oh, so the show's gonna be fun. Oh,
the show's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Oh, Nelly.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I don't know if I told you this. I don't
even know if he'll be mad I share this. But
we were doing those interviews and it was right after
verses and everybody was like, oh, he tried to shoot
his shot. Everybody was like clowning him, clowning him, but
like teasing them, teasing him. Yeah, like you to shoot
a shot, and then I asked you about it and
you were like, yeah, no, I wouldn't. He got like
bothered by that. I don't know even know I got.
(28:47):
I got a phone call. I got a Nellys phone call,
and I.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Was like, Nelly's calling.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He was right, so you know, you couldn't defend me
when she said, but what I what I got it
was a really funny call. He was he was, but
I could tell that it bothered him a little bit.
But what it told me was like, oh, he like
why would I get this call? He didn't still care,
you know, like how you said when you're over something,
(29:13):
you don't care.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I could tell he cared, and I was like, oh
he's bothered, Like he is, he cares. He was like, yeah,
I'm gonna get that back and fix.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
All this up right after that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
But I thought it was sweet, Like I was like, oh,
he's bothered because you didn't say nothing bad about him.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
But we're just like laughing and like I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Even remember what it was, but whatever it was, it warranted.
I got a phone call call, I.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Got a tax a phone call.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
He's gonna let you know, no, I got a voice
in person phone call. Oh have you have you started
any like, I don't know, do you have any traditions yet?
Like because you now you've had your first Christmas together,
you've had I mean the baby, well not the baby's
first birthday yet, but like, are you you're a new family.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, which must be fun, A lot of fun, A
lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Have you like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
We had Alicia Keys on and she was saying that
her in Swiss. By the way, you know this Alicia
keys trick that she's not trick thing that she does
on Christmas ever since she.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Was on the show.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I do it every Christmas in my family.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
That is it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
When she first said it, I was like, okay, and
then we tried it and I was like, this is
so dope. And now I'm on my third maybe no,
this was my third time doing it with the family.
It's she does this thing her in Swiss where they
have to do one handmade gift. They do like a
grab bag, but it has to be handmade and so
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then you have to show you pick the person and
then you make something for them and then you have
to show them what you made them and explain your gifts,
So like if I made you a basket filled with this,
or I made you a frame and I put these
little things, you explained it, and there's something so sweet
about your whole family kind of talking about what they
made for somebody. At first I was like, oh, that's cute,
(30:58):
and then I did it. I was like, I love
and so I took it. I just wondered if you
had guys have started any tradition.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's funny that you say that, is this the first
time I'm saying, is my nephew.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Now that we're married, My nephew and his girlfriend actually
made KK a jersey and it's half Cardinals and half Yankees,
so it's so cute and says his name and his
birthdate in the back, and I was.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Like, oh my god, this is the best gift.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So I guess they kind of already.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Something that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's something beautiful too about like starting a new family
and starting your.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Own tradition, So we we definitely have to like incorporate it.
I think I think our tradition is going to be
always having both of our families involved or around all
a part, you know, because obviously my family's in New York.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
His family's in Saint Louis, so it's like, Okay, what
are we going to do.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
With your family? Seemed like a good time too.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh man.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And that's what's crazy. Both of our families are so
much alike and such a good time. Like my dad
and his dad on the phone all the time, singing.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Carry on, mom and his mom.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's like they be doing group calls on WhatsApp, and like,
you know, they invite us sometimes, but it is so
funny to like look at them and look at their
group chats and you know they be on.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's a blessing, it really is.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What have you learned? Have your mother given you any
like good.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Mothering tips, mothering tips for like being.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
A mom or like a wife, either one, patience with both,
patience with both?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, were absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Your baby will if anybody's going to try your patience
in a lifetime, and it is your child is your child,
they know because it's the softest part of your heart,
like you can get at that.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
That's the one thing that's scary. The one thing that's
scary is you never expect someone or something to have
that much control, you know, Like I couldn't even imagine,
you know, if him getting hurt or him falling.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Or him that you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's yeah, that fear of someone or something having that
much control over your feelings.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know if I'm ready for that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We did last you better get ready. We did the
last episode we did with Lauren.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Lauren writing Girl was on her and she.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Was saying, people don't tell you that when you become
a mother, you never have like you don't have a
fully good.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Sleep ever again.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh life.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You know who just said that to me, Billy Baldwin
because he's in the film as well, and you know,
obviously we talked about KK and he was like, oh,
you're never going to sleep the same again.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You know, what's an interesting conversation. I'm wondering your take
on this, especially because you're so close with your mother.
A conversation that came up in the last episode and
I had never heard it, Like, this is so interesting
thing like, as a mother, our job is to fill
our children's cup, right to take care of them, to
fill their cup. This was Lauren's thing too, and I
thought it was so interesting and she said, what's heartbreaking?
(34:14):
What's heartbreaking?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Reality?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
As a mother is that it is not your child's
job to fill your cup. You so you're a mom,
and then you will stop trying. You will jump in
front of a moving bus.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
For your child.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You will not eat so your kid could eat, sleep
on the floor so your kid can sleep on the bed.
And it is your parents' job to fill your child's cup.
But as a parent sometimes it's you have to know
that it's really not a child's job to fill the
parent's cup. Of course they love you, of course your
kids do anything for you, but.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's not their job.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's not there to take care of you until maybe.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You're old and you need to.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
But I mean it's just an interesting and a little
bit of a heartbreaking it's realization as a parent, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I mean, for you, you got a.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Young baby, He's gonna cling on it a cherish the
way he clings on that leg that cries when you leave,
you know, But as they get older that changes.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
No, absolutely, I mean I feel like.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
As a parent, if you do the best job, and
do an amazing job and do everything you can, it's
going to be naturally reciprocated.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
So when I do things for my Mom. It comes
out of just genuine love and just because I want to,
and I can.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
When I buy my mama car, or buy my mama condo,
or buy my mom some jewelry, you know what I mean,
that's me kind of pouring back in because I've been
poured in so much, so it kind of just reciprocal
and it just happens in an organic way, you know
what I mean. So for me, I want to do
that because I know how special that is and I
(35:54):
know how deep that is, and you know, we have
an amazing bond. So it's not I don't think she
expects it, you know, But for me, it's like a given,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
So it's not really a second thought.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, I'm sure there's times if I put your mother
in the seat, maybe next time, maybe next time we
want to put Mama Jur in the seat. I'm sure
there's times in your life, maybe a younger you in
your twenties, where your mother was probably going through something
and you had no idea and you was off worried
about your own life.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Probably Yeah, I'm going to the sleep over.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You good, and you're like not even thinking about your
mother because because as kids we don't. We don't see that.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
You don't see that, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, it's really torturous, it's really terrible. You have a
long way for that, so cherished, all those beautiful moments
with the baby's a baby on you. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So we got the movie coming out today.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's an amazing film. I'm so happy to be a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's all different dress. It's a different role for.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You, Yeah, completely different role for me.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I play an ex veteran that is addicted to drugs
and I end up homeless. And it's five different people
from five different walks of life becoming homeless and living
in this encampment. And it's just, you know, it's dope
to be a part of a project that could create
awareness because it's kind of like a global crisis.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like you go outside even now, you see homeless people.
You look at it.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
It's so sad espe now in New York, it's so cold.
I see people sometimes it breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah yeah, and it's like we have the resources, we
have the power.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So the film kind of what is conversation that.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I learned to be less judgmental. You know, it genuinely
can happen to any of us. You could be one
paycheck away from becoming homeless, you know what I mean.
And there's a character that that happens to. He's married,
he's working, he has a child, he falls behind on bills,
it's a whole story.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
But he ends up being homeless.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So it's kind of there as a tool to teach us, like, yo,
don't judge and stop dehumanizing people. People don't choose to
be homeless. You don't want to be home, you don't
want to be addicted to drugs. So it it's a
film about having more compassion and just show me more
love and being more kind, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
So I was.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I was really happy and grateful to be a part
of it and I eped ad in there all good, Yes, absolutely,
I mean well, I am releasing new music, super super
excited about that.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I got a record called called You Up.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
It's coming out in April. I shot the video in
Bermuda so and that was the BBK you know body
before KK Okay, So I'm excited about that. Going on
tour to the UK in April.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I have to just because it's the elephant in the room,
and this just happened. I have to ask you. First
of all, I thought the way that you responded, you
reacted to IRV passing was so classy.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I thought she said the perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And I just I just wonder how that has affected
you or how you you have been processing that, because
it was unexpected.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Definitely unexpected. It was a lot to process, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
It was a lot of.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Different feelings and emotions, you know. And I think, honestly,
what I said is really how I feel.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You know. It's like I.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Was just I was really sad and I'm still sad that,
you know, it ended like this, you know what I mean,
because there was a time where things was just like amazing,
you know, and I know in my heart that I
always just wanted peace for both of us, you know
what I mean, for us to be cordial.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I wished peace for him. I prayed for him
to be at peace. And you just you don't really
see this coming, you know what I mean, Like it
really just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know. Did you think you'd have the opportunity where
you could maybe have some like something cordial.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I really wanted it to happen, you know, because I'm like, yo, Like,
like I said, we made history together. You know that
is infinite, Like we're talking about my son. My son
is gonna know that we made these records together, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I'm sad that the last few years we weren't
seeing eye to eye. What I do know is that
I tried, you know, I do know that I extended
the islive branch, and I do know that again, I
tried to just I just wanted things to be cool,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I didn't want to know smoke.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
You know, you caught a lot of strays in that situation.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh my gosh, y you handled it with such grace though,
baby like really like you couldn't have handled it better.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
And I was thinking about this when I was reading
what you wrote.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
You said, like I have always said, even through like
the ugliest parts of this, I'm paraphrasing, but what I
felt from you was like, even through the ugliest parts
of this, you have always given him the credit of
changing your life, absolutely bringing out the best in you creatively.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, that'll never change. Even in the interview that we did,
you know what I mean, Even though we weren't on
great terms, and that was like the peak of like.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
And dead. And that's.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Because I genuinely will always feel grateful. I will always
be thankful, you know, and be honest about all of that.
And obviously, you know, I spoke with all the guys.
It's the whole situation was just so sudden, you know,
And I don't know, it's just it's just really hard
(41:42):
to kind of wrap your mind around everything, especially like
for me, I have so many amazing things happening in
my life right now, you know, and it's just so positive.
And honestly, when you're in such a good place, you
wish everybody well, even if you're not getting along.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
It's like you want to kind of give off some
of that that positive energy, that that good love.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So, yeah, they spoke the job.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah, Yeah, we were in Hawaii together and I sent
like a bunch of you know, arrangements and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, yeah, it was, you know, it was.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's it's sad, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Tough on everybody, you know, makes you cherish the days, yeah,
because you just you never know. Joe Is he sent
me a nice note the other day too, But he's like,
you know, he's he's hurting, but he's living to you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He's got a beautiful family.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, are you guys still close to the is he se?
The baby? Is he? Is he?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Uncle John?
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Gosh?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, Jah had him up in the symbol polls, you know,
the lion king.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Oh my gosh, while we're in we were in Hawaii,
and it's just it was really cool to see, you know,
each had him.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
She wasn't putting him down. Each's his wife.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
So yeah, I was so happy when they were finally
able to meet, you know, because we've done we've done
a couple of face times, but he's like.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Oh, Bonnie looking up. We got Bonnie face, you know,
and then we were going back and forth. Now you
look a little bit like Moe.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Nah, you look like Bonnie.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
It was it was cool.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
It's so nice to have so much history with people.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, especially nowadays, and especially in this industry, you know
what I mean. Like having genuine love and genuine people
support you and hold you down is very slim. So yeah,
I'm grateful.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Our final IRL questions, are you ready in real life?
How happy are you.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Today?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
On a scale of one to ten.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
On a scale of one to ten, I'm gonna give
it about a thousand thousand.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Is that every day?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I mean, it's not every day.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'm grateful though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
You know, there's definitely disappointments and things that you want
to happen that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
But I am so genuinely.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Happy and authentically myself with my family that whatever is
not working, you roll it off and you move on
because the happiness outweighs it.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
How important is that thing where you just said, like
finding somebody that you could be authentically yourself, Like, how important.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Is that in the equation of happiness? Oh man, it's everything.
It's everything.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
If I can't walk.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Around without my wig, you know what I mean, like
when your.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Box is on and you know, just regular that's not
for me.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
You know, it's so important to just be authentically yourself
and have your person and you guys just get each.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Other without trying.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Obviously there's going to be things that you learned about
each other, and there's things that you don't like, you
know what I mean. But when you can get past
whatever the flaws are and you genuinely have that love.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
That's like magic is magical.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
My girl said a thousand in real life? What do
you pray for most.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
In real life? At this very moment, I pray for
my son the most. I pray with my son. I
pray for my husband. I pray for all of us,
and I pray for my family just health, happiness, sanity, safety.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
We're flying a lot, we're traveling, we're on the bus,
so I pray that we are covered and protected.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
How often do you think about your legacy in real life?
Like now? Maybe now different right, like.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
A little differently now again being a mom, Like I
don't want to say I forget about myself.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I just put my baby and my family kind of first,
you know what I mean, Because I know I'm going
to be good.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
I love my husband and he got us, so I
know I'm going to be good. So I want to
make sure that home is good and taken care of,
you know. And then legacy is like.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
You never want to lose yourself in your family.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
But I know that I'll be able to do what
I want to do because I have an amazing support system.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
I remember somebody told me that long time ago, when
I was single, I was like, I don't have time
for a man.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
They were like, well, you know that if.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
You get the right man, you actually can go further.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
It never even occurred to me when I was younger.
I used to think, a man, it's just a distress
some of the things I want to do in my career. Yeah,
but when you get the right one, you both grow
and evolved, you know, as a tall looking at your
life and how far you come. I mean, you could
look at both the episodes and there's so much evolution,
and that's just this part.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Of your life.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
If you look at the whole journey, somebody who's been
a fan of yours since the beginning, and watch your life.
What do you hope that people take from your life? Like,
what do you hope that people could learn?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I hope that people are inspired and motivated to, like
get out there, follow your heart, do your best, be fearless,
don't be scared to make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
When you do make a mistake, get back up, try again.
Spending the block might not be but everybody, but it
worked for me.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
You know, be yourself unapologetically and authentically you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
And I want people to take away that.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I love what I do.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
I'm a writer.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
I love being able to relate to people through music,
and music is just such a beautiful thing. Oh that's
one thing I have to say to KK is infatuated
with music, like he has.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Keyboards, he has like heard us sing to him. And
first of all, he doesn't cry.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
He only cries, maybe like if he's wet or if
he's super hungry, he whins, but he doesn't like cry.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Cry with tears.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Tears.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Right, So if he's like.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Whining or crying or upset about something, I start singing.
He's like, it is the most like it melts my heart.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It is like the most.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Beautiful thing for him to be so young and received
that concept, you know of music. Oh my god, I
gotta show you this video before we leave to wait.
So this is when he was only literally maybe a
couple of weeks old. I did him laying on my
chest and I was singing.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Smile for me, daddy, let me see your grill.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Right, I was singing, why he smile? Oh my god,
I cried, Why is that so smiled? God? It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I'm gonna show you the videos.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
You're so in love all.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Right and lasting? Where is Ashanti in.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Five years from now?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Who? Five? Because you really manifested what's happening with your
life right now? You really the last time we told
you you manifested what you said's gonna happen is exactly
where you are right now.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
So where are you in five years from now?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
In five years from now, we definitely have multiple children.
The empire is huge.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
I have already delved into a whole new world of
children's I don't want to say entertainment, but.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
I want to do stuff in that world just expanded.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
You know, me and my husband have a whole other
company that's just flourishing and you know, doing big things and.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Being better. So yeah, I think that's where I see.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
So just more of this, more of this one thought.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
By the way, if it stays like this and you're
at a thousand, that's a good life. That's a great life.
That's a great life.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Just wait till that noise question.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, y'all in the hood, Why is all the police
over there?
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Ship? Oh my god? This is what we can afford
in five years? When another when when the studio, the
Angie Martinez stio. We've seen that studio.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Let God Year studio.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Let me say, let me say you say it. Because
you don't manifest. We should. We should have done a
whole show about how to manifest, the way manifests. What
is the key to your manifesting my manifestation? What do
you do?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Do you really believe everything you say? Or is it
that you pray on it or is it that you
just absolutely pray on it. I really do pray on it,
and I'm not gonna lie to you. I wrote some
stuff down and I put it in a Bible years
ago I moved. I found the Bible and I was like,
oh so I definitely did that tell.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Me how this goes? Because people might want to know
how to do this?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
No serious.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
I rede the list.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I wrote the list. I wrote everything I.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Wanted, right, okay, it owns the building, the building, everything
that you want that's in your heart. I wrote it down.
I opened up the Bible, the scripture that it landed on.
I put the paper in the Bible, I closed it.
I forgot about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I just let it rock.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
And I feel like when you make yourself vulnerable and
you put it out there, the right stuff comes back,
you know what I mean, because you already.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Know I don't really do a lot of just putting
everything out.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So when I made that statement, I even felt I
was being vulnerable because I didn't know, like I said,
you know, my.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Little stashers that were none serious, that was you know,
So I really didn't have anyone that I was really
thinking about that with.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
So just put it out there, yeah, and put it
in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
And wait and wait for it to happen.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
I'm putting mad stuff in
Speaker 1 (52:10):
The Bible, chanting on a thousand everybody, Hey, shant
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