February 27, 2024 • 18 mins
We’re back with another IRL #TakeAways. The in-between audio-only podcast where Angie and special guests reflect on episode responses, takeaways, and highlights.
On this week’s #TakeAways Angie and her producer Brittany go in-depth about her podcast interview with Lindsey Vonn. They discuss the true key to manifesting success, pay equality in sports, and being reasonably delusional when dreaming big.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode is powered
by our friends at LG. Life's Good and of course
do say what's up everybody? Agie Martinez? Here another IRL Takeaway,
Come and Sing. These are the episodes where we discuss
our sit down interviews, what we learn from them, what
we take away. In this takeaway episode, we are discussing
(00:24):
the Lindsey Vaughan, She's so dope. Like sometimes we have
a guest and I'm like, I want to.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Be friends with her. No, actually that happens.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Does that happen?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It does happen.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, this is the best conversations that way.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Imagine you go somewhere, you go like and you meet
a friend at a party and you have a great conversation.
You're like, oh, I like that person. I might want
to be friends with them. That's what happens at my
job all the time. I have these people on my
podcast and I'm like, I really like them. Of course,
life starts lifing and you don't really have time for
all of your new friends. But I gotta say, most
of the people that have been on the on the pod,
if I leave with that feeling of like I would
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like to hang out with them continue conversations anyway. Lindsay
of course falls into that group of people. Number One,
She's super competitive, which I can totally relate to.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
She's a competitive maniac.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
She she makes me seem like not a competitive person
because she is the I'm just competitive and like I
get a bad rap. By the way, we were talking
about Ron, they don't like to play games with me.
I'm not trying to beat anybody.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm competitive to myself. I always want to do the
best version of something that I could do for myself.
I'm not the person who was like I gotta obliterate
everybody where. Lindsey said that she don't even play a
game unless she could just like blow everybody to smithereens,
which I think is really funny. But you would have
to have that type of mentality to be the professional
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skier that she is and to be as you know,
just to be as successful as she's been at it,
for sure. When she talks about going up to the
like when they're about to what is I call it
at the beginning, I'm so nonskier. I don't even know
the ski terminologies. Oh, when they're about to go down there,
there's like a lineup, right, I don't know if that's
the right term. There's a lineup, and then she could
see people's fear on their face and she likes it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
She's like, Eh, that's crazy behavior. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And the best way though, makes me like her so much.
She's like, yeah, it's scared. I'm gonna use this to
my advantage because I'm not. And then she goes and
she wins, and yeah, but it really she really does
talk about that drive. And the funny thing is one
of the takeaways I have from her is that she
said that she tried to reprogram herself. She tried to
reprogram that out of herself, but it's so ingrained that
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she can't. Like me, I could go and be like
I could go to somebody's game night and be like, Okay,
let's just chill. Let me not get too competitive. I
can tell myself that and actually not be that competitive.
I could be like, oh, it's just a chill. Lindsey
can't even there's no switch for her.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
She just wants to.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Win all the time, and it's so deeply ingrained that
she cannot reprogram it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's interesting too. She must be fun at night or
not or not.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So much fun. I'm not really sure how that goes.
But there were a lot of takeaways from this episode.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What are some of yours, Brick.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I used to be like kind of jealous of people
who at a young age they already knew. Lindsay has
been skiing since she's been nine years old.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
She don't know, she had clarity, she knew her agenda. Es, yes,
she did. That made you like you were jealous of that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Because I always and maybe this is a product of
me coming up when the Internet came around the earth,
is that you see everybody's successes all the time, and
like you said, we're only seeing the highlight rail. So
people who get a start at a young age at
their profession, that takes them into adulthood. Of course, someone
who's been doing something for twenty years is most of
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the time going to be better than someone who maybe
just picked it up.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like with you and golf, you're pretty good. I'm pretty good.
Pretty good, Brittany, I don't like where you're going with
this comparison. I'm pretty good for my group.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm just saying someone a young skier right now now,
I look up to Lindsay Vaughn and be like, dang,
I gotta get to that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, I get it, I got I get it. So
you had jealousy of people who found their career that early.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, that's interesting, and then knocked me back in because
I was like, oh my gosh, she's broken every damn
bone in her body. She's she she was traveling, she
felt lonely. It was hard for her to get friends
like there were.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So she talks about I don't I know when she
talks about leaving the house traveling the world at nine
years old and not really being supervised, really.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Not just traveling anywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
She's going across the globe to these remote locations to
go compete in these at nine, and she was like
the youngest person there with people who are from like thirteen,
she said, to thirteen to eighteen or something people, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh, little Lizzy. She's probably so cute too, little nine
year old Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But anyways, I love what you said about we only
see the highlight reel.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, we know that, and that's the that's the downside
of social media, and that is something that we talked about,
like aside from it being the highlight reel, and you
don't see see the hard.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Things that have to go through it. It's really it's
not even the hard things.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, there are hard times that you probably don't see,
but it's really.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The every day of it. It's like the every day.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You always make fun of me when I use the
word minutia, but it's the minutia, it's the really, it's
the every day of You have to like that otherwise
you set yourself up to not have be happy. Right, Like,
if you're like, Okay, my dream in life is to.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Give me I don't know, give me one be Lebron James.
Yes my dream. No, that's that's ridiculous. By the way,
good luck with that, guys. Hope that dream works out
well for you, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
My dream is to dance at the I want to
be in the Nutcracker as a ballerina.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then that's all you like, or you all you
strive for.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That means in the if it even if it happens
for you, which is really hard, but even if it
does happen to you, you're setting yourself to only be
happy that one. That's not a life. That's like if
you're a baseball player and you're like, I just want
to make it to the World Series. If you're only
happy on the day of the World Series, what an
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awful life that is. If you don't love getting up
and going to batting practice and getting up and playing
small teams and getting up and going to the gym,
then that's probably not the life for you, and it's
not the dream you should be chasing.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Is the point. It's like, you really should learn to.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Find something or to love the journey of whatever your
journey is, because the other stuff is really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's like it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
An award, right, radio Hall of Fame? Great, so I
get a radio Hall of Fame? What does that one
day mean? That one day doesn't even compare to the
everyday grind, the ten years, twenty years, thirty years that
you put into that. You have to love the ten years,
twenty years and every day of it. I really feel
passionate about that, because sometimes even when you're in it,
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you forget that. I have to remind myself that sometimes,
like are.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You having fun?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Like I have to say to myself self, is this
fun for you? And not to say everything is fun.
Sometimes you do have to.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Do a little.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Most of the time, it might not be fun. It
might be working out. Everybody's new US resolutionist to work out.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, Lindsey likes working out. That's what I'm saying is
she likes the journey. She likes her journey.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's why I will never be a professional skier because
I do not love working.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Out every day. I don't enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now I'm sure this day she doesn't feel like it,
But for the most part, she enjoyed that journey.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You know what I'm saying. I just don't think it
should be.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, things are hard, Yes they require sacrifice and discipline
and all of that, but you should like most of
the time doing what you're doing. Otherwise you probably not
doing the right thing for you.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, So make sure whatever that goal is, you really
love all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Before it a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And also sometimes it's just a switch in your brain,
like stop chasing the one thing, the one victory, Like
start enjoying the thing you got into it for the
first place. So if you're a painter and then you
get hired to paint for some museum or whatever, if
you're only waiting for that gallery opening, then that's you're
not living your life. You should enjoy every painting that
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you make for the whole year, because that's the life.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That's the journey.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then the other things are just kind of like highlights,
like they're just moments, metals. All that stuff is kind
of cool and it's fun for people to say, oh,
award winning, well this's that, but that's not the life, man.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And then it post always changes too.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So once you then there's there's an old interview with
Jay Cole classically breaks that that down everything that if
you're whatever you're chasing, there's more of it. That's why
you got to be present and appreciate what you have
and and pour into things that.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Fill you up for sure. Anyway back to Lindsay, what
other takeaways you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Got Speaking of the goal post changing for Lindsay, the
goal post changed for her when she decided to retire
from skiing. And I do like this clip about this
moment where she was watching Kobe at the Oscars get
his award.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Were you at the Oscars?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was at the Oscars that year. Did you see Kobe?
Did you know Kobe?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I've met him at the London Olympics. I've been a
huge I'm always a fan of sports, like I love
sports in all its forms, so I know a lot
of athletes and definitely was always inspired by his work ethic.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And then you were there and you saw him war
I saw.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Him like Kobe just won an Oscar, so you know
it's not possible, chasing nothing is impossible. And guess what,
I'm gonna win an oscar own a fall flat on
my face. And I'm totally fine with either.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I forgot we had an Oscar date.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm excited about that for us, look at us manifesting.
I love what Lindsay said about manifesting too. This is
this this moment, by the way, if you watch the
full interview, her and I talk about, you know, doing
what's next and being excited about projects that we're working on,
and we were putting it into the air that our
projects would land us at the Oscars and we would
attend together. But she had an interesting gem about manifesting.
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Let's play that clip.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You know, it's again it's like you can manifest it,
but like there are so many sacrifices that no one
sees that you know, you make every day that are
what get you to where you want to go, you know,
And I've seen so many people in my life that
were more talented than I was. You know that just
they thought they were going to make it, they manifested it.
They didn't work hard like you have to put in
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the time.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Or they work hard, but they don't believe that they
can actually do it, or they let fear get in
the way, or they let outside noise get in the way,
or all of those things. Also Yeah, also true, get
in your way.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
There's a lot of things that can get in your way.
It's a lot of things, mostly yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, man, you got to do the work. That's an
important part of manifestation. By the way, how funny that
she was at the Oscars the same year I was
at the Oscars. It's like we're destined to be friends
her and I I'll take that as an omen That
was a great night. I'm so grateful too that I
was in that room that night.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
When Kobe won the award. How'd that feel? Surreal?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Mind you when I say I was there. You know,
you guys think of the Oscars. You think of people
like in the front rows and fully like, no, no,
I was in the I was in the back in
the trench. Yeah, I was in the trenches. I was
there to support my friend. I'm not an Oscar nominee.
I was there like I'm Mary's friend in the audience. Now,
I'm gonna say for the Mary's Friends section, my seats
were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like I was sitting in front of.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The lady from get Out and get Out was the
movie that year, the lady with the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
T oh oh, yeah, the actress, she's dope.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I like her anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
All that to say, I was there and Kobe won,
and it was like, oh man, this has got to
be an amazing I don't know Mary J. Blige was nominated,
Kobe won an award. It was just a dope data
be there. And then Lindsay and I were there. What
are the chances? Must mean something, must mean we're meant
to be back there for something.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Take all of that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But yeah, I also liked when she was talking about
the fact that she has to be more than an athlete,
which is, you know, if we learn nothing from Kobe,
it's about.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Being more than an athlete.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, Kobe, Lebron, they're all in that demographic of they're
doing more than This moment in pop culture that happened
with Kobe where that terrible reporter told them that just
shut up and dribble.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Wasn't that Lebron? That was Lebron?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yes, yes, sorry sums spoken. But you know athletes have
after they're done playing sports or at the tail ends
of their careers, you really start to see when they
start transitioning and you can aspire to win an Oscar.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I love that.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Lindsay she was so she felt like so certain, like
it's gonna happen. Even you were like, this can really
happen for us.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, we believe. That's why we're successful in our lives.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, I can't compare what I've done to what
she's done or anybody else, but like, I.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Think we both are.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Built that way in terms of, like you, we believe.
I believe anything's possible. Sometimes I have little quiet moments
where I'm going, you crazy, That's not like the little
voice will come in my head. The little voice will
come in my head and go, you're tripping. That doesn't
happen for people like us, or you know, the self
doubt notions. I don't let those people live take up
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too much space in my brain. They're there like they
are for everybody else. But I just feel like they're
more of a hindrance because to another point that Lindsay made,
who cares if you're delusional, you have to think that way?
Who cares if you fuck it up or you fall
on your face. You can't play the game that way.
You can't play scared. You don't go at the top
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of the mountain like I could break my ankle, maybe
I might break my neck. Like you can't go up
there and think that you have to get up there
and think, no way, I'm good, I got this. And
I think that goes across the board for anything in life,
even me. Like when I try to do things, I
try to make sure that I see the biggest version
of it possible in my head. And if I don't
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make it to that, then so what, Who cares? It's
still the goal. You still try to think big and
dream big, and then you know, if you fuck it
up or you make forty percent of the one hundred percent,
who cares? At least you went for it and you
still had some It still was worth the journey, and
still you know the only way to really show up.
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In my opinion, so I love that the way she
broke that down.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I thought that was dope.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Another takeaway I had from this episode was Lindsey talking
about pay equality amongst women and men sports. Yeah, and
I didn't realize that. I mean, I'm not an avid
ski watcher, but she brought up great points that apparently
skiing is not very lucrative sport across the board for
both men, and.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well, that didn't surprise me, but crazy when she broke
it down, She's like, you only hear about skiing once
every four years.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right, And then it made me think back to the
only sport, professional sport that has paid equality is soccernis no,
she said. Lindsay said that tennis supposedly makes the most
money for women, but soccer is the only sport because
in twenty nineteen, when the women's US team won the
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World Cup, they actually filed a lawsuit against the US
Soccer Federation and they ended up winning and passing a
rule that men and female soccer players have to get
paid the same.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It is the.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Only sport, which is why can't say why can't anybody else?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So I say we like, I'm in the WNBA, why
can't we win the WNBA?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I put myself in and things have no business, have
no business.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But I get it, why can't anybody else? So I'm
surprised nobody else has followed suit there.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean they also the women saw team had
been way more successful for the men's for a while.
They won two World Cups. They were coming off a
really really like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
We know the story.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
We gotta go extra hard to get to get what's deserved,
you gotta be extra good at it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's say, that's the age old problem.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But Lindsay seems like the person that isn't scared to
speak her mind and open up. And this is the
clip of her talking about how she had to ask
her counterparts men how much she should be getting for
brand deals.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, play that clip.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
If there's no transparency, how am I supposed to know
if I'm getting underpaid compared to a man or not.
So I asked them point blank, and some of the
top male racers actually told me what they were making.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And you were like oh, And I was like, whoa.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Okay, I'm on in the same ballpark and I need
to fix that. So I literally went and I was like,
this is what I need, and this is what you're
going to give me, and I know what the guys make,
so don't even try. And I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Good for her, she got it. You better get that bread, Lindsay.
You know how much work since she's nine years old
she's put into this career. That's got to be frustrated.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It's not just work. Her body. She had screws here,
plates there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, she's nuts and bolts down.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I also inspire by people who are like I was
joking with her saying like I'm such a whiner in
the gy like she's so she's like a machine and
that Really I don't wish to be a machine, but
I am inspired by the mentality that you have to
have to be a machine. You know what I'm saying,
Because you could apply that whether you want to use
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it towards working out or towards being a professional athlete.
But if you would have just apply that same type
of mental discipline to anything you do, it has to
lift it up. Like whatever you're doing in the world,
If you apply that level of just mental discipline, I
think it's really inspiring.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
The way she operates like that. We liked, Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I need to borrow some of that, Lindsay. Lindsay, determination
juice works.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I ain't been to a gym. I keep saying, you're
twenty twenty four. I'm like, I'm gonna go to pilates.
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna get my core strength
because you know, as a golfer, I gotta get my
core strength together.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I went to pilates one time so far this year.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It's not too late.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's not it's not too late. You're right, I'm going back.
I'm going back. I'm going in.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm gonna be inspired by Lindsay Vaughn. Anyway, there was
a ton of takeaways. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode,
and if you haven't, you haven't seen it yet, you
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Andie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode is powered
by our friends at LG. Life's Good and of course
do say what's up everybody? Agie Martinez? Here another IRL Takeaway,
Come and Sing. These are the episodes where we discuss
our sit down interviews, what we learn from them, what
we take away. In this takeaway episode, we are discussing
(00:24):
the Lindsey Vaughan, She's so dope. Like sometimes we have
a guest and I'm like, I want to.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Be friends with her. No, actually that happens.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Does that happen?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It does happen.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, this is the best conversations that way.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Imagine you go somewhere, you go like and you meet
a friend at a party and you have a great conversation.
You're like, oh, I like that person. I might want
to be friends with them. That's what happens at my
job all the time. I have these people on my
podcast and I'm like, I really like them. Of course,
life starts lifing and you don't really have time for
all of your new friends. But I gotta say, most
of the people that have been on the on the pod,
if I leave with that feeling of like I would
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like to hang out with them continue conversations anyway. Lindsay
of course falls into that group of people. Number One,
She's super competitive, which I can totally relate to.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
She's a competitive maniac.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
She she makes me seem like not a competitive person
because she is the I'm just competitive and like I
get a bad rap. By the way, we were talking
about Ron, they don't like to play games with me.
I'm not trying to beat anybody.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm competitive to myself. I always want to do the
best version of something that I could do for myself.
I'm not the person who was like I gotta obliterate
everybody where. Lindsey said that she don't even play a
game unless she could just like blow everybody to smithereens,
which I think is really funny. But you would have
to have that type of mentality to be the professional
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skier that she is and to be as you know,
just to be as successful as she's been at it,
for sure. When she talks about going up to the
like when they're about to what is I call it
at the beginning, I'm so nonskier. I don't even know
the ski terminologies. Oh, when they're about to go down there,
there's like a lineup, right, I don't know if that's
the right term. There's a lineup, and then she could
see people's fear on their face and she likes it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
She's like, Eh, that's crazy behavior. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And the best way though, makes me like her so much.
She's like, yeah, it's scared. I'm gonna use this to
my advantage because I'm not. And then she goes and
she wins, and yeah, but it really she really does
talk about that drive. And the funny thing is one
of the takeaways I have from her is that she
said that she tried to reprogram herself. She tried to
reprogram that out of herself, but it's so ingrained that
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she can't. Like me, I could go and be like
I could go to somebody's game night and be like, Okay,
let's just chill. Let me not get too competitive. I
can tell myself that and actually not be that competitive.
I could be like, oh, it's just a chill. Lindsey
can't even there's no switch for her.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
She just wants to.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Win all the time, and it's so deeply ingrained that
she cannot reprogram it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's interesting too. She must be fun at night or
not or not.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So much fun. I'm not really sure how that goes.
But there were a lot of takeaways from this episode.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What are some of yours, Brick.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I used to be like kind of jealous of people
who at a young age they already knew. Lindsay has
been skiing since she's been nine years old.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
She don't know, she had clarity, she knew her agenda. Es, yes,
she did. That made you like you were jealous of that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Because I always and maybe this is a product of
me coming up when the Internet came around the earth,
is that you see everybody's successes all the time, and
like you said, we're only seeing the highlight rail. So
people who get a start at a young age at
their profession, that takes them into adulthood. Of course, someone
who's been doing something for twenty years is most of
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the time going to be better than someone who maybe
just picked it up.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like with you and golf, you're pretty good. I'm pretty good.
Pretty good, Brittany, I don't like where you're going with
this comparison. I'm pretty good for my group.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm just saying someone a young skier right now now,
I look up to Lindsay Vaughn and be like, dang,
I gotta get to that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, I get it, I got I get it. So
you had jealousy of people who found their career that early.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, that's interesting, and then knocked me back in because
I was like, oh my gosh, she's broken every damn
bone in her body. She's she she was traveling, she
felt lonely. It was hard for her to get friends
like there were.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So she talks about I don't I know when she
talks about leaving the house traveling the world at nine
years old and not really being supervised, really.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Not just traveling anywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
She's going across the globe to these remote locations to
go compete in these at nine, and she was like
the youngest person there with people who are from like thirteen,
she said, to thirteen to eighteen or something people, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh, little Lizzy. She's probably so cute too, little nine
year old Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But anyways, I love what you said about we only
see the highlight reel.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, we know that, and that's the that's the downside
of social media, and that is something that we talked about,
like aside from it being the highlight reel, and you
don't see see the hard.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Things that have to go through it. It's really it's
not even the hard things.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, there are hard times that you probably don't see,
but it's really.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The every day of it. It's like the every day.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You always make fun of me when I use the
word minutia, but it's the minutia, it's the really, it's
the every day of You have to like that otherwise
you set yourself up to not have be happy. Right, Like,
if you're like, Okay, my dream in life is to.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Give me I don't know, give me one be Lebron James.
Yes my dream. No, that's that's ridiculous. By the way,
good luck with that, guys. Hope that dream works out
well for you, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
My dream is to dance at the I want to
be in the Nutcracker as a ballerina.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then that's all you like, or you all you
strive for.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That means in the if it even if it happens
for you, which is really hard, but even if it
does happen to you, you're setting yourself to only be
happy that one. That's not a life. That's like if
you're a baseball player and you're like, I just want
to make it to the World Series. If you're only
happy on the day of the World Series, what an
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awful life that is. If you don't love getting up
and going to batting practice and getting up and playing
small teams and getting up and going to the gym,
then that's probably not the life for you, and it's
not the dream you should be chasing.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Is the point. It's like, you really should learn to.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Find something or to love the journey of whatever your
journey is, because the other stuff is really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's like it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
An award, right, radio Hall of Fame? Great, so I
get a radio Hall of Fame? What does that one
day mean? That one day doesn't even compare to the
everyday grind, the ten years, twenty years, thirty years that
you put into that. You have to love the ten years,
twenty years and every day of it. I really feel
passionate about that, because sometimes even when you're in it,
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you forget that. I have to remind myself that sometimes,
like are.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You having fun?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Like I have to say to myself self, is this
fun for you? And not to say everything is fun.
Sometimes you do have to.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Do a little.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Most of the time, it might not be fun. It
might be working out. Everybody's new US resolutionist to work out.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, Lindsey likes working out. That's what I'm saying is
she likes the journey. She likes her journey.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's why I will never be a professional skier because
I do not love working.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Out every day. I don't enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now I'm sure this day she doesn't feel like it,
But for the most part, she enjoyed that journey.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You know what I'm saying. I just don't think it
should be.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, things are hard, Yes they require sacrifice and discipline
and all of that, but you should like most of
the time doing what you're doing. Otherwise you probably not
doing the right thing for you.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, So make sure whatever that goal is, you really
love all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Before it a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And also sometimes it's just a switch in your brain,
like stop chasing the one thing, the one victory, Like
start enjoying the thing you got into it for the
first place. So if you're a painter and then you
get hired to paint for some museum or whatever, if
you're only waiting for that gallery opening, then that's you're
not living your life. You should enjoy every painting that
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you make for the whole year, because that's the life.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That's the journey.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then the other things are just kind of like highlights,
like they're just moments, metals. All that stuff is kind
of cool and it's fun for people to say, oh,
award winning, well this's that, but that's not the life, man.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And then it post always changes too.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So once you then there's there's an old interview with
Jay Cole classically breaks that that down everything that if
you're whatever you're chasing, there's more of it. That's why
you got to be present and appreciate what you have
and and pour into things that.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Fill you up for sure. Anyway back to Lindsay, what
other takeaways you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Got Speaking of the goal post changing for Lindsay, the
goal post changed for her when she decided to retire
from skiing. And I do like this clip about this
moment where she was watching Kobe at the Oscars get
his award.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Were you at the Oscars?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was at the Oscars that year. Did you see Kobe?
Did you know Kobe?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I've met him at the London Olympics. I've been a
huge I'm always a fan of sports, like I love
sports in all its forms, so I know a lot
of athletes and definitely was always inspired by his work ethic.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And then you were there and you saw him war
I saw.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Him like Kobe just won an Oscar, so you know
it's not possible, chasing nothing is impossible. And guess what,
I'm gonna win an oscar own a fall flat on
my face. And I'm totally fine with either.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I forgot we had an Oscar date.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm excited about that for us, look at us manifesting.
I love what Lindsay said about manifesting too. This is
this this moment, by the way, if you watch the
full interview, her and I talk about, you know, doing
what's next and being excited about projects that we're working on,
and we were putting it into the air that our
projects would land us at the Oscars and we would
attend together. But she had an interesting gem about manifesting.
(10:14):
Let's play that clip.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You know, it's again it's like you can manifest it,
but like there are so many sacrifices that no one
sees that you know, you make every day that are
what get you to where you want to go, you know,
And I've seen so many people in my life that
were more talented than I was. You know that just
they thought they were going to make it, they manifested it.
They didn't work hard like you have to put in
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the time.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Or they work hard, but they don't believe that they
can actually do it, or they let fear get in
the way, or they let outside noise get in the way,
or all of those things. Also Yeah, also true, get
in your way.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
There's a lot of things that can get in your way.
It's a lot of things, mostly yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, man, you got to do the work. That's an
important part of manifestation. By the way, how funny that
she was at the Oscars the same year I was
at the Oscars. It's like we're destined to be friends
her and I I'll take that as an omen That
was a great night. I'm so grateful too that I
was in that room that night.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
When Kobe won the award. How'd that feel? Surreal?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Mind you when I say I was there. You know,
you guys think of the Oscars. You think of people
like in the front rows and fully like, no, no,
I was in the I was in the back in
the trench. Yeah, I was in the trenches. I was
there to support my friend. I'm not an Oscar nominee.
I was there like I'm Mary's friend in the audience. Now,
I'm gonna say for the Mary's Friends section, my seats
were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like I was sitting in front of.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The lady from get Out and get Out was the
movie that year, the lady with the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
T oh oh, yeah, the actress, she's dope.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I like her anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
All that to say, I was there and Kobe won,
and it was like, oh man, this has got to
be an amazing I don't know Mary J. Blige was nominated,
Kobe won an award. It was just a dope data
be there. And then Lindsay and I were there. What
are the chances? Must mean something, must mean we're meant
to be back there for something.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Take all of that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But yeah, I also liked when she was talking about
the fact that she has to be more than an athlete,
which is, you know, if we learn nothing from Kobe,
it's about.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Being more than an athlete.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, Kobe, Lebron, they're all in that demographic of they're
doing more than This moment in pop culture that happened
with Kobe where that terrible reporter told them that just
shut up and dribble.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Wasn't that Lebron? That was Lebron?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yes, yes, sorry sums spoken. But you know athletes have
after they're done playing sports or at the tail ends
of their careers, you really start to see when they
start transitioning and you can aspire to win an Oscar.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I love that.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Lindsay she was so she felt like so certain, like
it's gonna happen. Even you were like, this can really
happen for us.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, we believe. That's why we're successful in our lives.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, I can't compare what I've done to what
she's done or anybody else, but like, I.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Think we both are.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Built that way in terms of, like you, we believe.
I believe anything's possible. Sometimes I have little quiet moments
where I'm going, you crazy, That's not like the little
voice will come in my head. The little voice will
come in my head and go, you're tripping. That doesn't
happen for people like us, or you know, the self
doubt notions. I don't let those people live take up
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too much space in my brain. They're there like they
are for everybody else. But I just feel like they're
more of a hindrance because to another point that Lindsay made,
who cares if you're delusional, you have to think that way?
Who cares if you fuck it up or you fall
on your face. You can't play the game that way.
You can't play scared. You don't go at the top
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of the mountain like I could break my ankle, maybe
I might break my neck. Like you can't go up
there and think that you have to get up there
and think, no way, I'm good, I got this. And
I think that goes across the board for anything in life,
even me. Like when I try to do things, I
try to make sure that I see the biggest version
of it possible in my head. And if I don't
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make it to that, then so what, Who cares? It's
still the goal. You still try to think big and
dream big, and then you know, if you fuck it
up or you make forty percent of the one hundred percent,
who cares? At least you went for it and you
still had some It still was worth the journey, and
still you know the only way to really show up.
(14:35):
In my opinion, so I love that the way she
broke that down.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I thought that was dope.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Another takeaway I had from this episode was Lindsey talking
about pay equality amongst women and men sports. Yeah, and
I didn't realize that. I mean, I'm not an avid
ski watcher, but she brought up great points that apparently
skiing is not very lucrative sport across the board for
both men, and.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well, that didn't surprise me, but crazy when she broke
it down, She's like, you only hear about skiing once
every four years.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right, And then it made me think back to the
only sport, professional sport that has paid equality is soccernis no,
she said. Lindsay said that tennis supposedly makes the most
money for women, but soccer is the only sport because
in twenty nineteen, when the women's US team won the
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World Cup, they actually filed a lawsuit against the US
Soccer Federation and they ended up winning and passing a
rule that men and female soccer players have to get
paid the same.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It is the.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Only sport, which is why can't say why can't anybody else?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So I say we like, I'm in the WNBA, why
can't we win the WNBA?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I put myself in and things have no business, have
no business.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But I get it, why can't anybody else? So I'm
surprised nobody else has followed suit there.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean they also the women saw team had
been way more successful for the men's for a while.
They won two World Cups. They were coming off a
really really like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
We know the story.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
We gotta go extra hard to get to get what's deserved,
you gotta be extra good at it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's say, that's the age old problem.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But Lindsay seems like the person that isn't scared to
speak her mind and open up. And this is the
clip of her talking about how she had to ask
her counterparts men how much she should be getting for
brand deals.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, play that clip.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
If there's no transparency, how am I supposed to know
if I'm getting underpaid compared to a man or not.
So I asked them point blank, and some of the
top male racers actually told me what they were making.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And you were like oh, And I was like, whoa.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Okay, I'm on in the same ballpark and I need
to fix that. So I literally went and I was like,
this is what I need, and this is what you're
going to give me, and I know what the guys make,
so don't even try. And I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Good for her, she got it. You better get that bread, Lindsay.
You know how much work since she's nine years old
she's put into this career. That's got to be frustrated.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It's not just work. Her body. She had screws here,
plates there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, she's nuts and bolts down.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I also inspire by people who are like I was
joking with her saying like I'm such a whiner in
the gy like she's so she's like a machine and
that Really I don't wish to be a machine, but
I am inspired by the mentality that you have to
have to be a machine. You know what I'm saying,
Because you could apply that whether you want to use
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it towards working out or towards being a professional athlete.
But if you would have just apply that same type
of mental discipline to anything you do, it has to
lift it up. Like whatever you're doing in the world,
If you apply that level of just mental discipline, I
think it's really inspiring.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
The way she operates like that. We liked, Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I need to borrow some of that, Lindsay. Lindsay, determination
juice works.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I ain't been to a gym. I keep saying, you're
twenty twenty four. I'm like, I'm gonna go to pilates.
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna get my core strength
because you know, as a golfer, I gotta get my
core strength together.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I went to pilates one time so far this year.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It's not too late.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's not it's not too late. You're right, I'm going back.
I'm going back. I'm going in.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm gonna be inspired by Lindsay Vaughn. Anyway, there was
a ton of takeaways. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode,
and if you haven't, you haven't seen it yet, you
could go watch it. It's on my YouTube page IRL.
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