January 3, 2024 • 16 mins
We’re back with another IRL #TakeAways. The in-between audio-only podcast where Angie and special guests reflect on episode responses, takeaways, and highlights.
On this week’s #TakeAways Angie and her producer Brittany discuss the best moments from Melyssa Ford.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Agie Martinez in Real Life podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This episode and conversation is powered by I Do Say
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good friends?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi everyone, Welcome to another episode of Aggie Martinez IRL Takeaways.
These are the episodes where we discuss the other episodes.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We discussed the interviews.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That sounded crazy, yeah, but I swear there was purpose
to these episodes because what happens is when I'm sitting
in these interviews, really it's about the person, and I'm
like locked into what they want to deliver. Then they
drop their knowledge or they dropped their experience, so they
dropped their insight and then we all after are like, yo, I.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Was thinking about what they said. I was thinking about
what he said or she said.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So this is when we have the opportunity to reflect
what we took away, our takeaways from the conversation and
that we hope maybe you picked up on anyway. So
that's what takeaway episodes are about. And this takeaway episode
we are discussing Melissa Ford, which while people resonated with
her huh yes. We always love when again comes vulnerable
(01:01):
and open and ready to share.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
She came ready to share. Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We could start this whole episode here with what her
takeaways are, because we asked her literally on set and
I don't know how much insight you know about what
had been going on with her as of recent and
some of the noise around her, and we thought about
bringing it up, but what she offered us was so
much more important that at the end of the interview,
(01:28):
it was just like, who cares about the daily headline
of the day or whatever it is or whatever the
thing is. And so then I sat with her after
the episode and I was like, well, what did you think?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What was your takeaway?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And well, I didn't ask God that Brittany actually asked her,
and this is what she said.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
My takeaway so far is that this was one of
the most in depth, profound and thoughtful and caring interviews
I've ever experienced where somebody actually delved deeper than I
think any but he has ever gone into who I
actually am.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That is the nicest thing anybody could say after an interview,
as somebody who sits on this side of the table
when you interview people, that is how you want people
to feel. And so the fact that she felt that
way made me so happy, and it.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Made everyone in the room feel good too, Like you know,
we got all the crew people on set and where
where as we're like, we get to view it the
conversation for the first time, and it was just as
impactful in the room as it was for.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To watch it back.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Absolutely, no, it was impactful in the moment. We all
felt it. I felt it too. It was impactful for me.
If you noticed this episode, there was not much for
me to say, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
you look at some of the clips and it's just
her talking. I'm barely I mean, I talked to her.
Obviously we're connecting, but there wasn't much. Sometimes I have
to lead a conversation, or sometimes I have to take
some people somewhere or and then sometimes they just be yeah.
(02:56):
But then sometimes being in my seat, it's important to
like let something happen. Like I could have my idea, Okay,
this is what I want to talk to Melissa Ford about.
But then I sit in the chair and something else happens.
It's my job to let it happen because otherwise I'll
get in the way of something magical that could happen,
or something that is important to somebody else, Like Melissa
(03:17):
Ford came there with something that was important to her
to say, and I could have easily interfered with that
with too much interviewing, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if there was heavy interviewing going on, I could have
easily gotten in the way. And I'm so grateful that
I did it, and I'm so grateful that she you
know that I had the feeling to know, like, Okay,
(03:38):
back up, let her go, she's saying great stuff. Let
me just sit here and be in it with her.
And yeah, she was so vulnerable, and to me, she
felt so bottled up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's like and I know.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Exactly how she feels because after I had done some
work on myself after my accident, I felt like, that's
really what launched the podcast, is me wanting to share
what I have figured out. And I could tell that
she has done so much work on herself that she
was bottled up with all this stuff that she wants
to share, Like, hey, guys, you can get up after
you want to commit suicide. Hey guys, you will survive
(04:11):
after your parent passes and it knocks your ass on
the floor and you're devastated, you can get up. And
I think she was bottled up with this. I don't
know with all of this stuff that she wanted to offer.
And to me, that's the most beautiful thing about this
podcast is when we genuinely have somebody that's willing to
sit in that chair and given and it's an offering.
(04:32):
It's like an offering of experience perspective, but with that
intent not just to tell you to tell you, or
to share to share, but it's actually to share with
the intention of, like, yo, let me put you'all on
because this could actually be good for somebody out there.
And it was when we post a clip of her
tool the way she breaks down losing a parent. I'm
(04:54):
one of the lucky ones where my mom is still
young and healthy and with me, thank god.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
But I felt her when she said this, and you know.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I have had loss in my life, not a mother,
so I related to this in a way. But also
I think she when I could see the reaction from
people who have lost their mother, the way they responded
to her in the comments, this moment was really impactful.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's a terrible club to be a part of, but
anybody who has lost their mom understands what it means
to be a part of this club and know, and
people who have not lost their mother don't understand until
it happens to them. The insanity that you feel will you.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Just won't get it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Your entire universe has been ripped to shreds. You are
hurtling through time and space. It's literally like you are
you know, you're untethered. You've lost your tether to the
earth and you are just flying around and you're hoping
somebody grabs the string and pulls you down.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But that is like.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That is that it doesn't happen. The grounding that happens
takes years. It takes years.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh that is deep, right, Tell people what that did
to you? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So you know, the holidays just passed and my parents
they live in Florida, but they had him to visit
me for the first time. And like it's been like
five years since I spent a Christmas with them, and
they were with me for eight days. And I'm not
a really like emotional outwardly emotional.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
She's like me, she's a Capricorn.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't I'm not crying at the movies. I don't,
like I'm real stoic in that way. But for some reason,
after Melissa Ford came on the show I had. I
was so appreciative of my parents, and I'm like, oh,
I couldn't bear with the thought of.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Losing one of them at all.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And when they when I dropped them off to the airport,
as soon as they turned around to go past the
sliding doors, I started bawling my face. My boyfriend was
making so much fun of me, because Brittany, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So out of character and so muchy of her. But
it's so great. It's so great. I was like, please,
can you guys stay.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I'm like, I'm telling my boyfriend I really want to
live with them now. I want them to move.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
In with me.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I can't spend any more time apart from my parents.
But that's the effect Melissa had, like I couldn't stand
what it feels like to live with the possibility of regret,
feeling like you could have improved your relationship with the
people who brought you into this world.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I love when she said that if you do have
your parents and you're lucky enough, you know, get to
know them in a different way, not just this image
of them. Who wish parents should be to you, but
who are they as human beings aside from you, take
you out of the equation who is your mother, who
is your father, and really spending time to get to
know them and ask them questions, basically cherish them while
(07:52):
they're here and get to know them as best as
you can, with the understanding that they won't be here forever.
It's not even the you know they might not be
here forever, they won't be here forever. It's like it's
a guarantee. I know we hate to hear that, but
it's really the truth. So so that that was great.
I love that takeaway the stuff about her parents and
(08:13):
also the guilt that she has. Her and her mom
were not on good terms when her mom passed, and
that's a lot of guilt to hold on to.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
What really shocked me about that story, too, was that
was the first time I heard about made. I didn't
know that Canada had the medical assistance death, Yes, dying
in Canada, that you can if you're if you have
a severe illness that way, or if you just feel
like you actually can't go on that there's a lengthy
(08:41):
process you can decide to end your life, and your
life legally end your life and there there's a couple
of states in America.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yes, I wanted to die and this you know this too?
To me? This you know this, This is euthanasia. Yeah,
ethan asias is, but I didn't know that was legal
in the US.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
There Oregon, Washington, Montana, Vermont, California, Colorado, Washington, Hawaii, Main
New Mexico, and New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It can't just be like I'm tired of living. No,
I don't want it. It's like a lengthy like well,
remember when Melissa said in the interview.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
She was saying she goes at the beginning, ten people
might sign up, and by the end of the process,
the interview process, two people might actually go with it.
She said that those that the people are always women.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, because the men get scared. They're like, never mind,
we'll let you deduce that. Per That's kind of what
she No, I think she said it. I think she
said it pretty clear. No meaning the public. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was interesting. There was a lot from our conversation
that I can take away from. First of all, her
saying that she had an experience in the nineties and
those video sets and how women were treated and some
(09:53):
of her experiences, and then she says that she did
have an experience that she never wants to come forward
with because she doesn't have the capacity to do that.
I respect that so much that she could admit that,
because you know, it's really hard right now, the way
the world is set up, the way social media is
set up, the way that the whole world can have
(10:13):
an opinion about anything public that you do. It's just
subject to opinion, and opinion is that the most it's
at the grossest, most negative. I don't know place that
I can remember ever seeing it. So imagine having to
say something that's so vulnerable and scary and intimate and
then having the whole world have an opinion about it.
(10:35):
That is scary for somebody to admit that you should
play that clip.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Every experience that I've had has not been on the
up and up, you know, and they've been with There's
one that I can think of in particular. I don't
have the band with the strength to deal with the
onslought of what I have seen victims go through, to
(11:05):
put myself in that position. That is why I tip
my hat to them.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I've never heard anybody admit that or say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know, well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm very brave these days, and I give myself a
lot of credit for being brave to say things that
people think to themselves but would never ever utter the words.
You know, and I have said this to people, you
know that there's been experiences that I probably could have
filed suit on, but I'm probably never I'm never going
(11:40):
to do it because I can't deal with the repercussions
of it. I can't and I won't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, that was interesting to me. That was heavy, but
I felt her man, and I'm sure there's a lot
of women that felt that. And it also we should
take a moment when you hear a clip like that
to remind yourself how amazing it is and how we
should be supparding people who do stand up and do
share their stories for the reasons of, you know, not
letting it happen to someone else.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And I commend her for being honest in that way,
because it after me too, you know, has is at
the height that it is.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's like, if.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You have a story, it's your duty to share it,
and no one really talks about the other side of
like what the actual burden that that comes with.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
The heavy burden, especially if you're somebody like Melissa who's
been through so much already.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
She's tired.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Poor baby, she just trying to get through today. You
know what I'm saying, She's like, I don't have it
to give right now. I totally got it. I understood anyway.
She was amazing in so many ways. Definitely an interview
that you do not want to miss. I was happy
to end the interview on that note, because that's what
this podcast is. It's like, it is a place that
we hope that people have an offering and that you
(12:54):
take something away from it. And by the responses and
some of the reaction, I do feel a lot of
people had some great takeaways from this episode. Was there
anything else?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I really when you decided, Hey, Bird, I want to
talk to Melissa Ford, I was really excited because I
only knew what other people knew about her with that
she was this video og, video vixen model, and of
course there is a slew of negative common connotations that
comes with that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, and it was really.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It was I remember YouTube. You were like, really, it
wasn't negative. You were just like and I was like,
I really, I want to interview this person. I want
to interview that person and I want to figure out
a day from Melissa Ford. You were like, oh, like
you looked surprised, and I was like, no, she has
she yeah why not?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah. It wasn't like you were saying in a negatway.
It was just there was an element of surprise.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I always I'm always trying to figure out, Okay, what's
the what's the takeaway from this person?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
What?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I just, like many of you maybe didn't know
anything more about it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was more like that, like I
don't know anything about her, so why her?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Not?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why her something bad about her? But why I don't
know anything about her? And it's true. She is on
a podcast. I mean, Joe Button's podcast is a super
duper popular.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's cute too.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Shout out to all the Joe Button followers because I
could see in the comments they all call her big mail.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, so I could see how many.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Joe Button followers were in the comments because everybody was like, oh,
big mel this was amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They kept calling her big mail. I guess from the pod.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But she does have a platform where she does share
some things, but it's a different conversation that she has
on that. It's like me on the radio. It's a
different conversation. It's just a different platform for a different conversation.
So I think she hasn't had a platform like this
where people got to know this other side of her.
(14:53):
And I really want to be careful because I don't
want this to sound like we thought low of her.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Never.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We just didn't know any of the stuff that she
was going through. It was like double fold of like
she had some jewels to drop, but also we didn't
know any of this at the same time, and.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
She handles it all so gracefully that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Even if you do cross paths with her, or you
did see her on the Joe Buden podcast or on
some show or whatever, you didn't get that she was
in the throes of that darkness.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
She's a nice human and she's a great heel. It's
such a sweet lady. Yeah, she really Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
She talked more after this. I was like, so, how
do we take more Melissa Ford content?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, she definitely needs to. I love that for her too,
because I love that people got to see her in
this way. I think people will look for that for
her from her moving forward more. Yeah, so so good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We love anyway. But the moral of the story is.
We love you, Melissa Ford. You are a warrior.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You shared your story so beautifully that I was grateful,
My audience was grateful. And I think you were going
to feel the karma of that coming back to you.
I think that energy that you put out, I hope
that it comes back to you in so many one
hundredfold and people put their arms around you. And also,
(16:11):
you know, you might have saved somebody's life, changed somebody's life.
I believe that type of conversation that we had does
have the power to change a life, help a life, whatever,
just lift somebody up. So well done to her, and
thank you for choosing my platform. You know. If you
By the way, if you guys haven't watched the episode,
(16:32):
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(16:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
This episode and conversation is powered by I Do Say
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good friends?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi everyone, Welcome to another episode of Aggie Martinez IRL Takeaways.
These are the episodes where we discuss the other episodes.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We discussed the interviews.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That sounded crazy, yeah, but I swear there was purpose
to these episodes because what happens is when I'm sitting
in these interviews, really it's about the person, and I'm
like locked into what they want to deliver. Then they
drop their knowledge or they dropped their experience, so they
dropped their insight and then we all after are like, yo, I.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Was thinking about what they said. I was thinking about
what he said or she said.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So this is when we have the opportunity to reflect
what we took away, our takeaways from the conversation and
that we hope maybe you picked up on anyway. So
that's what takeaway episodes are about. And this takeaway episode
we are discussing Melissa Ford, which while people resonated with
her huh yes. We always love when again comes vulnerable
(01:01):
and open and ready to share.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
She came ready to share. Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We could start this whole episode here with what her
takeaways are, because we asked her literally on set and
I don't know how much insight you know about what
had been going on with her as of recent and
some of the noise around her, and we thought about
bringing it up, but what she offered us was so
much more important that at the end of the interview,
(01:28):
it was just like, who cares about the daily headline
of the day or whatever it is or whatever the
thing is. And so then I sat with her after
the episode and I was like, well, what did you think?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What was your takeaway?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And well, I didn't ask God that Brittany actually asked her,
and this is what she said.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
My takeaway so far is that this was one of
the most in depth, profound and thoughtful and caring interviews
I've ever experienced where somebody actually delved deeper than I
think any but he has ever gone into who I
actually am.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That is the nicest thing anybody could say after an interview,
as somebody who sits on this side of the table
when you interview people, that is how you want people
to feel. And so the fact that she felt that
way made me so happy, and it.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Made everyone in the room feel good too, Like you know,
we got all the crew people on set and where
where as we're like, we get to view it the
conversation for the first time, and it was just as
impactful in the room as it was for.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To watch it back.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Absolutely, no, it was impactful in the moment. We all
felt it. I felt it too. It was impactful for me.
If you noticed this episode, there was not much for
me to say, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
you look at some of the clips and it's just
her talking. I'm barely I mean, I talked to her.
Obviously we're connecting, but there wasn't much. Sometimes I have
to lead a conversation, or sometimes I have to take
some people somewhere or and then sometimes they just be yeah.
(02:56):
But then sometimes being in my seat, it's important to
like let something happen. Like I could have my idea, Okay,
this is what I want to talk to Melissa Ford about.
But then I sit in the chair and something else happens.
It's my job to let it happen because otherwise I'll
get in the way of something magical that could happen,
or something that is important to somebody else, Like Melissa
(03:17):
Ford came there with something that was important to her
to say, and I could have easily interfered with that
with too much interviewing, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if there was heavy interviewing going on, I could have
easily gotten in the way. And I'm so grateful that
I did it, and I'm so grateful that she you
know that I had the feeling to know, like, Okay,
(03:38):
back up, let her go, she's saying great stuff. Let
me just sit here and be in it with her.
And yeah, she was so vulnerable, and to me, she
felt so bottled up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's like and I know.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Exactly how she feels because after I had done some
work on myself after my accident, I felt like, that's
really what launched the podcast, is me wanting to share
what I have figured out. And I could tell that
she has done so much work on herself that she
was bottled up with all this stuff that she wants
to share, Like, hey, guys, you can get up after
you want to commit suicide. Hey guys, you will survive
(04:11):
after your parent passes and it knocks your ass on
the floor and you're devastated, you can get up. And
I think she was bottled up with this. I don't
know with all of this stuff that she wanted to offer.
And to me, that's the most beautiful thing about this
podcast is when we genuinely have somebody that's willing to
sit in that chair and given and it's an offering.
(04:32):
It's like an offering of experience perspective, but with that
intent not just to tell you to tell you, or
to share to share, but it's actually to share with
the intention of, like, yo, let me put you'all on
because this could actually be good for somebody out there.
And it was when we post a clip of her
tool the way she breaks down losing a parent. I'm
(04:54):
one of the lucky ones where my mom is still
young and healthy and with me, thank god.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
But I felt her when she said this, and you know.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I have had loss in my life, not a mother,
so I related to this in a way. But also
I think she when I could see the reaction from
people who have lost their mother, the way they responded
to her in the comments, this moment was really impactful.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's a terrible club to be a part of, but
anybody who has lost their mom understands what it means
to be a part of this club and know, and
people who have not lost their mother don't understand until
it happens to them. The insanity that you feel will you.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Just won't get it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Your entire universe has been ripped to shreds. You are
hurtling through time and space. It's literally like you are
you know, you're untethered. You've lost your tether to the
earth and you are just flying around and you're hoping
somebody grabs the string and pulls you down.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But that is like.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That is that it doesn't happen. The grounding that happens
takes years. It takes years.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh that is deep, right, Tell people what that did
to you? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So you know, the holidays just passed and my parents
they live in Florida, but they had him to visit
me for the first time. And like it's been like
five years since I spent a Christmas with them, and
they were with me for eight days. And I'm not
a really like emotional outwardly emotional.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
She's like me, she's a Capricorn.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't I'm not crying at the movies. I don't,
like I'm real stoic in that way. But for some reason,
after Melissa Ford came on the show I had. I
was so appreciative of my parents, and I'm like, oh,
I couldn't bear with the thought of.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Losing one of them at all.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And when they when I dropped them off to the airport,
as soon as they turned around to go past the
sliding doors, I started bawling my face. My boyfriend was
making so much fun of me, because Brittany, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So out of character and so muchy of her. But
it's so great. It's so great. I was like, please,
can you guys stay.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I'm like, I'm telling my boyfriend I really want to
live with them now. I want them to move.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
In with me.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I can't spend any more time apart from my parents.
But that's the effect Melissa had, like I couldn't stand
what it feels like to live with the possibility of regret,
feeling like you could have improved your relationship with the
people who brought you into this world.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I love when she said that if you do have
your parents and you're lucky enough, you know, get to
know them in a different way, not just this image
of them. Who wish parents should be to you, but
who are they as human beings aside from you, take
you out of the equation who is your mother, who
is your father, and really spending time to get to
know them and ask them questions, basically cherish them while
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they're here and get to know them as best as
you can, with the understanding that they won't be here forever.
It's not even the you know they might not be
here forever, they won't be here forever. It's like it's
a guarantee. I know we hate to hear that, but
it's really the truth. So so that that was great.
I love that takeaway the stuff about her parents and
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also the guilt that she has. Her and her mom
were not on good terms when her mom passed, and
that's a lot of guilt to hold on to.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
What really shocked me about that story, too, was that
was the first time I heard about made. I didn't
know that Canada had the medical assistance death, Yes, dying
in Canada, that you can if you're if you have
a severe illness that way, or if you just feel
like you actually can't go on that there's a lengthy
(08:41):
process you can decide to end your life, and your
life legally end your life and there there's a couple
of states in America.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yes, I wanted to die and this you know this too?
To me? This you know this, This is euthanasia. Yeah,
ethan asias is, but I didn't know that was legal
in the US.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
There Oregon, Washington, Montana, Vermont, California, Colorado, Washington, Hawaii, Main
New Mexico, and New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It can't just be like I'm tired of living. No,
I don't want it. It's like a lengthy like well,
remember when Melissa said in the interview.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
She was saying she goes at the beginning, ten people
might sign up, and by the end of the process,
the interview process, two people might actually go with it.
She said that those that the people are always women.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, because the men get scared. They're like, never mind,
we'll let you deduce that. Per That's kind of what
she No, I think she said it. I think she
said it pretty clear. No meaning the public. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was interesting. There was a lot from our conversation
that I can take away from. First of all, her
saying that she had an experience in the nineties and
those video sets and how women were treated and some
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of her experiences, and then she says that she did
have an experience that she never wants to come forward
with because she doesn't have the capacity to do that.
I respect that so much that she could admit that,
because you know, it's really hard right now, the way
the world is set up, the way social media is
set up, the way that the whole world can have
(10:13):
an opinion about anything public that you do. It's just
subject to opinion, and opinion is that the most it's
at the grossest, most negative. I don't know place that
I can remember ever seeing it. So imagine having to
say something that's so vulnerable and scary and intimate and
then having the whole world have an opinion about it.
(10:35):
That is scary for somebody to admit that you should
play that clip.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Every experience that I've had has not been on the
up and up, you know, and they've been with There's
one that I can think of in particular. I don't
have the band with the strength to deal with the
onslought of what I have seen victims go through, to
(11:05):
put myself in that position. That is why I tip
my hat to them.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I've never heard anybody admit that or say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know, well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm very brave these days, and I give myself a
lot of credit for being brave to say things that
people think to themselves but would never ever utter the words.
You know, and I have said this to people, you
know that there's been experiences that I probably could have
filed suit on, but I'm probably never I'm never going
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to do it because I can't deal with the repercussions
of it. I can't and I won't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, that was interesting to me. That was heavy, but
I felt her man, and I'm sure there's a lot
of women that felt that. And it also we should
take a moment when you hear a clip like that
to remind yourself how amazing it is and how we
should be supparding people who do stand up and do
share their stories for the reasons of, you know, not
letting it happen to someone else.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And I commend her for being honest in that way,
because it after me too, you know, has is at
the height that it is.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's like, if.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You have a story, it's your duty to share it,
and no one really talks about the other side of
like what the actual burden that that comes with.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
The heavy burden, especially if you're somebody like Melissa who's
been through so much already.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
She's tired.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Poor baby, she just trying to get through today. You
know what I'm saying, She's like, I don't have it
to give right now. I totally got it. I understood anyway.
She was amazing in so many ways. Definitely an interview
that you do not want to miss. I was happy
to end the interview on that note, because that's what
this podcast is. It's like, it is a place that
we hope that people have an offering and that you
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take something away from it. And by the responses and
some of the reaction, I do feel a lot of
people had some great takeaways from this episode. Was there
anything else?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I really when you decided, Hey, Bird, I want to
talk to Melissa Ford, I was really excited because I
only knew what other people knew about her with that
she was this video og, video vixen model, and of
course there is a slew of negative common connotations that
comes with that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, and it was really.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It was I remember YouTube. You were like, really, it
wasn't negative. You were just like and I was like,
I really, I want to interview this person. I want
to interview that person and I want to figure out
a day from Melissa Ford. You were like, oh, like
you looked surprised, and I was like, no, she has
she yeah why not?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah. It wasn't like you were saying in a negatway.
It was just there was an element of surprise.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I always I'm always trying to figure out, Okay, what's
the what's the takeaway from this person?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
What?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I just, like many of you maybe didn't know
anything more about it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was more like that, like I
don't know anything about her, so why her?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Not?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why her something bad about her? But why I don't
know anything about her? And it's true. She is on
a podcast. I mean, Joe Button's podcast is a super
duper popular.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's cute too.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Shout out to all the Joe Button followers because I
could see in the comments they all call her big mail.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, so I could see how many.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Joe Button followers were in the comments because everybody was like, oh,
big mel this was amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They kept calling her big mail. I guess from the pod.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But she does have a platform where she does share
some things, but it's a different conversation that she has
on that. It's like me on the radio. It's a
different conversation. It's just a different platform for a different conversation.
So I think she hasn't had a platform like this
where people got to know this other side of her.
(14:53):
And I really want to be careful because I don't
want this to sound like we thought low of her.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Never.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
We just didn't know any of the stuff that she
was going through. It was like double fold of like
she had some jewels to drop, but also we didn't
know any of this at the same time, and.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
She handles it all so gracefully that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Even if you do cross paths with her, or you
did see her on the Joe Buden podcast or on
some show or whatever, you didn't get that she was
in the throes of that darkness.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
She's a nice human and she's a great heel. It's
such a sweet lady. Yeah, she really Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
She talked more after this. I was like, so, how
do we take more Melissa Ford content?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, she definitely needs to. I love that for her too,
because I love that people got to see her in
this way. I think people will look for that for
her from her moving forward more. Yeah, so so good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We love anyway. But the moral of the story is.
We love you, Melissa Ford. You are a warrior.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You shared your story so beautifully that I was grateful,
My audience was grateful. And I think you were going
to feel the karma of that coming back to you.
I think that energy that you put out, I hope
that it comes back to you in so many one
hundredfold and people put their arms around you. And also,
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you know, you might have saved somebody's life, changed somebody's life.
I believe that type of conversation that we had does
have the power to change a life, help a life, whatever,
just lift somebody up. So well done to her, and
thank you for choosing my platform. You know. If you
By the way, if you guys haven't watched the episode,
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I don't know why, but you can go to the
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so that you get alerts because we will have new
episodes dropping soon and yeah, and you could listen to
it if you prefer to listen instead of watch. You
can listen to it here. Just click the link that
has the Melissa Ford interview versus the takeaway. So thank
(16:54):
you guys, don't forget to subscribe. Have a great rest,
of the day and we'll catch you on the next one.
Host
Angie Martinez
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