March 27, 2025 • 24 mins
Oliver Hudson returns and dishing the details to Kristin about an agent who said he'd never make it in this business. Simultaneously, Kristin reveals to Oliver that there was a scene in this episode that was cut... and it's a dirty dog of an idea.
Plus, it's probably not a good idea to break up with someone in the middle of having sex with them!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
you a Charlotte? Hi? Everybody, I am here with Oliver Hudson,
and there is still so much to talk about. In
season one, episode seven, the monogamousts all right, Carrie and
Big they' walking the street.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We talked about that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Then there it carries apartment and Miranda calls and carries
like I did the terrible thing, which is like I
ignored my friends because of a guy very bad, and
she has this really cute moment of like, it's so cute.
You also see through this show that we still have.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
To talk to the camera.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I know, like even the rest of us have to
talk to the camera. I did not remember that at all.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
There was one in the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
In the restaurant, it's almost carries just perspective and right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But but we are literally looking at the camera.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Freaky weird.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I know Darren directed it. I should have said that
at the beginning. Darren Starr wrote and directed this so
and he, like I said, he was really toying around
with different stuff and he loved the talking to the camera.
Sarah Jessica not so much. She's on record saying this,
so I'm not I'm not saying anything I'm not supposed to.
She does not love it right.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, there was one time I think she's in her
bedroom all of a sudden she goes and then ba
ba ba ba.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm like, whoa, I know, how hard is that for
an actor? It's strange because it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Takes you out, like why are you doing it? Sometimes
but not all the time talking who are you talking to?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Because if you're just there and you're hearing her thoughts,
that's great, But then her mouth is moving, she's talking
to something, but she's alone in her apartment. It's freaky.
And she was always struggling to really make it real,
you know, but how do you actually make that real?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
But Darren loved it, so Darren was trying for more.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But we still have at this point also, which really
made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The people on the street, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, when the guy's like, I've been in a monogamous
relationship for nine years, I sleep with prostitutes.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, what was that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's the weird thing that we did in the beginning,
which was kind of like this anthology feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Are those actors?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, they're actors acting like people on the Street, very
good ones. She thought there were real people where we
were like, hey, career, yeah, do a little acting bit.
Those are actors. One of them is one of our dps,
(02:28):
and I think he his name is Michael Spiller. He's
on the bench and he says, oh my god, now
I can't remember. I laugh every time I see him.
I'm like, why is why is he there? Because we
would flip back and forth with dps because it was
too hard to scowl everyone on film and then edit right,
and we hadn't gotten our We were still trying different
people out and I don't think I don't know if
(02:49):
he's I don't think he dpeed that episode. But he's
sitting on the bench. So one of them is repeat yeah,
and he says something weird and kind of looks at
the camera, and it is weird. But we know him
so obviously that's why it's weird. Then they're at the
all of us are at the restaurant, and I thought
that was good.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We don't have.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Our coffee shop established at this point, right, so we
would just be out at real restaurants in New York.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And you know how it is to film a dinner scene.
Oh gosh, it's long.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's really lot.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I just did it in Toronto a couple of times,
but one specific there's like six people around a table
rough and it is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
The worst it is.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's hard, and we always had these the corner stone,
but eventually we.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Build a set which made it easier.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But this one we're at the Bluewater Grill, I believe,
which we just show the sign we would have a restaurant,
we would crossboard it, right, so we try to make
it look different in one corner and then Big is
there having that thing.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I go out with.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I walk out of the front with the guy, yes,
who you know wants me to go down on it.
Also sidebar and I did just see Darren Star and
talk to him about this. At the time, both Darren
and I had Golden Retrievers and they were good friends,
the dogs, and they loved each other and we loved
our dogs. And there's a Golden Retriever in the show
and there used to be a scene it's really terrible.
(04:09):
This is the guy who wants me to go down
on him, right, And then I leave, you know eventually,
and Carrie's voiceover says something like, what's your name?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The dog is like Crystal or something.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The Crystal was very happy and she's sitting there looking
at him like very happy. There used to be a
scene where she was supposed to do something with really.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Gross peanut butter on his correct How did you know?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It just came to me.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Could you could feel that vibe in the scene?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Could you?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But we had good sense and didn't put it in
the final edit probably for sure. Smart and I saw
there on the other day and I was like, Darren,
guess what episode is coming up? And he was like, oh, yeah,
that never should have happened.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, you tackle a lot of subjects, but beast reality
might not.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, you might not want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It the beautiful golden Nord driver, Oh my god, which
really makes that guy seem horrific.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, then he needs to go to.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Jail right like bad anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Luckily, so every time we get to that part, I'm
like filled with nerves.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Remember you're doing the comedy part of it. You see
him pushing the don't the dog's head down? But then
the dog's resisting.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Too, right, No, the idea was that the dog was
really into it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh, I know, it'd have been funny, don't even.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Don't even as bad as bad. It's bad.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's bad as bad.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay, so you remember Skipper.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Skipper is the guy guy Miranda side of the other
woman when Miranda.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Is right, So basically the back the backup is.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Are you breaking up with him? Are you inside of
me and breaking this?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know? That was really funny, but also like, I
don't remember any of this, so it was so much
fun to watch it again. First of all, I love
the when Carrie and Miranda have dinner on the street
at like some little Italian restaurant. It is so amazing
because this is still a through line, and Miranda is
kind of the only one who just tells carry like, no,
that's all rrible idea.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
She's just very like, no, don't go out with big again, No,
you know whatever. And it's really funny because Cary goes
through her whole spiral like do you think when he
said I miss you, babe, that he was really saying
I'm sorry that I went out on a date with
that woman, when in fact we spend a whole week together.
And Miranda's like, maybe it's really funny, and then Carrie's like,
but then I have to doubt everything that he's ever
(06:22):
said to me. And then she goes like, I'm spiraling,
I'm losing my mind. And then Skipper walks by with
this woman who's very chic and works for Vogue and
talks about Paris, and Miranda's like huh and you can
just see her little, you know, brain turning, and they
walk away and then they tear each other's clothes up
in that weird, frenzied way which makes.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Literally no sense.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And then Miranda calls and is talking on the answering
machine like in the olden days, and they can hear
her voice. It just brought back ideas, right, and so
many memories. And they're having sex and she's basically like, oh,
you know, we should have dinner, she says on the phone,
and media just picking up the phone. It's just so mortified.
(07:04):
Oh my gosh, just so mortified. But like, the thing
now that I think it reminds me of is, you
know there are people who keep their phone with the
sounds on or the vibrating on all the time. Right,
I have my phone on silent all the time, probably
because we work and we can't have the cuts, but
also like, whatever you're doing you could be mid sentence,
you could be mid anything, and they'll pick their phone.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Up and she's like why Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It reminded me of that in a way. It's like
an old fashioned version of like the most inappropriate time
to pick the phone up, like that's very bad.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh of course, but he's he's obviously head over.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Her exactly matter it just can't help himself. And I
thought he acted it really well, really well. So it
picks it up and she basically says like, oh, very casually,
like we should have dinner, and he's like okay, and
then he hangs up and he says to the woman
that he's having sex, like I'm in love with that woman.
I know, he's like a child. He has no venear, what's.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So funny?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And the poor woman says, are you breaking up with
me while you're incited me? And he was like yes
or whatever. Then the really side part is they go
to Miranda and him, you know, after sex in this
super cute shot on the Also, she's got like two
green flats like in the olden days we didn't have sets, right,
(08:21):
Like Charlotte had two white flats and they would just
move them around.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Flats are like like part of a set.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Like a board, right.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And so if you had to shoot one way, you'd
move them this to be the background, and then if
you had to shoot the other corner, you'd move them.
So Miranda has strangely two emerald green flats and like
a bed with like nothing. It's literally the starkest.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I noticed that, like no effort. I was like, where
is she in, like a prison cell?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Where a green prison?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Miranda? Yes, Branda.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So they're in the prison cell and they've had sex
and they're very adorably you know, spooning kind of or whatever,
chatting and he's like, oh, yeah, I had to break
up with that woman. And she's like what why did
you do that? And he's like, well, because you called
me back and she said no, no, we don't need
to be in a relationship. You can see her. She
has so much power. It's so interesting and it's so
not really Cynthia like in any way, Like she's not
(09:15):
a player, you know at.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
All, And it's funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Her acting but doing it like so brilliantly, you know,
which I don't feel what I watch myself at all.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean, I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A puppy I'm a puppy, I'm floundering.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I'm I don't know what I'm doing there do I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But she and I know she felt she didn't know
what she was doing because she used to turn to
me all the time and say, not my medium. She's
a theater actress, right, And she eventually, which I've also said,
sorry if I'm repeating myself, would watch the dailies. She
would get ask for the dailies every day, watch them
in the hair and makeup trailer. Yes she was on
a crash course. We would all come in the hair
(09:56):
makeup and be like, please take it all of a sudden, ye,
do not make us watch it while we're getting our
hair and makeup done. We will die. And so she
would take them home and watch that. Can you imagine
going home from work and watching your days every I mean,
she really is, like it's impressive. But even when I
watch back, I'm like, I don't really know why she's
(10:18):
saying that. She's fantastic, Like I don't know why she fell.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Before your show. She had done movies, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But I mean they were such highly level movies that
I don't think that it's obviously very different to be
in a music milos forman film than it is to
be in like a set sure show where you have
to I mean, yes, we did a lot of takes,
but like we were going.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
At multiple pages, oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like different locations and this and that, and if all
four of us were there and we're not really walking
and talking yet as a foursome, but once we start
walking and talking as a poursum like that is like
a very elaborate dance, you know, where you're having to
find the lens. You're having to be in front and
then behind, and then on this line and on that line.
And there's the musicality of it, which we talked about earlier,
and for me, I always thought of it. You know,
(11:03):
we're a quartet and you know my note was the
high note.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was like boooooo.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You know what I'm saying right.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Right, I mean it is right, especially in the beginning,
you know. But you and we had to talk really
fast because Michael expected that we had to have our lines.
We had to you know, it's like hardcore comedy, right,
so all of those things together it was very technically challenging.
But I only see that starting now, right, Like it's
more to two people scenes, right, and that she can
(11:36):
totally handle. And I think it's funny that she felt
like it wasn't a medium because I think she's brilliant, amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes, anyway, back to my paper.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So they're there, they're there, and and poor Skipper again
just kicked to the curb and he's like very upset.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think he's so good.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
He's so good. I know, it's really funny.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
But at the same time, you're looking at this guy like,
you know, did you think this was just an invite.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Back to love?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What was their relationship prior.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Their relationship was that he was the puppy and she
would like push him up against the wall as long
as she'd be like, you know, like like go away
with your little buzzy buzz you know, you're like a
little fly around me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I mean, he never had the power.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, it just goes back to miscommunication. He thinks one thing,
she wants another, and she was upfront about and saying, oh,
do your thing, and then he got but hurt and
that was the end of it. Yeah, he's just kind
of like, oh, well, this isn't what I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's kind of like the girl yeah right right, which
is adorable. Yeah, and really likable. I think at the
time I was like skipper, it is all. It's just
so funny to look back on my thoughts back then.
(12:57):
Oh my god, the apartment shopping situation. She never forgot
about this. So the Samantha storyline is that she's obsessed
with the new apartment and the great Caroline Aaron, who
was later in Marvel's Missus Mazel. I don't know if
you watch that, she's incredible. She's Samantha's realtor, which is
so funny, and she so made me laugh out loud
because she basically asks Samantha to be a monogamous client,
(13:20):
and Samantha's like, sure, and you absolutely know that she
does not intend to be a monogamous client. Cut to
her with a very handsome male realator looking at the
apartment and then off the top.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I know it was interesting because they had sex and
multiple apartments multiple Was it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The same day?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, it's a good question.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And then there was another one at night, that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
When she gets caught.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, was it the same day?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I mean, look, I wouldn't play apart I mean, yeah,
it could happen. Yeah, I mean she does what she wants. Yes,
And this is why I think people really really love
that character. No, I know, I mean it's pretty brash,
but I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Think we need to be monogamous to our real estate.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I mean, Richard is a good friend of mine who
saw in my house. I've known him since we were
like in LA.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You're selling your house.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
When I when I was and when I bought and sold.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And I feel like if I he caught.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, no, I have my real liters, my friend and
I would never two time her, right No. Yeah, Also
it's their livelihood.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I know, you know. Yeah, So maybe.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Maybe Caroline's character was right.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Maybe she was right.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Maybe she was right. You're right, Yeah, maybe you need
to be a monogamous to your Really.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
The hardest breakup I've ever had was with a therapist
when I wanted to go see someone else.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's hard.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm like, so this is really tough for me, But
you know, jan, I don't think it's working anymore, and
I'm going to see another therapist.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And what did they say?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Cool? Their therapists?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, we're more scared, of course.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But if they had any other you know.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It would be strange and profession if he or.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
She was like you little son. Actually real quick story,
and I get off, I get off topic. But the
hardest breakup that I ever had was with my first agent,
because I again I wasn't you know, I wasn't being
and I wasn't want to be an actor. But I
just fell into it, and of course I love it.
But I was trying to model to make money, which
(15:27):
was the most horrific experience in my life.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
There's a million stories about that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But they had an agency within the modeling agent, a
little small deal, yeah yeah. And I was with this
girl I won't say her name, and you know, she
was helping me do my thing. And I get, I
get like a little gig girl whatever. And then another
little gig and then a bigger agency wants to sort
of bring me on still kind of a mid level thing.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But and I was talking to my manager.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I'm like, I'm so scared, like I don't know what
to say, and really hard. And she said, he said,
they deal with this all the time. Okay, that's what
I said. I said, Dave, you do it how I
need to do.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Also, I would make Dave do it.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah no, I said, Dave go, Yeah, no, you need
to do this. Said, okay, they have to.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
She's gonna be cool. Happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I said, so listen, I really appreciate you, and I
thank you so much. But I've had this amazing opportunity
to advance my career with representation. The whole thing it
was quiet, and she's like, you little son of a bitch. Now,
dare you you bastard? No, I can't believe you. The
(16:31):
only reason anyone wants you is because your mother's Goldie home.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
When they try to kill you, never good, never good,
never good.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I was laughing. I said, well, now, thank god, I have.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
A similar situation.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes, this is now, I know, I said, who's the
adult here? Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Cut to many years later, I'm on a sitcom Rules
of Engagement. I'm semi famous, I'm making money. There's a
guest star who comes on the show. This woman is
the guest star's agent who's there for the week. Oh no,
she doesn't even say anything to me. And finally at
the end, at the end, I say, hey, her name, Uh,
(17:15):
how are you?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
She's like, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Wow, you know, and I was like, I'm not doing
too bad, right, So do you approve all this?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know? She was just just, you know, could not
believe that this was happening.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And wait did she give you anything?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But still I was sad. That's really sad.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I can be pretty vindictious.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think that's okay. I know I can be I
think that's okay. This is my feeling in general, and
this is with a romantic thing or an agent thing,
or a professional thing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And I've had it in all the different forms.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
When you try to leave, especially being polite and saying
I really appreciate you, thank you for everything you've done. No, no,
and you try to leave and they try to kill you,
you know, they try to like take you down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Very bad.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah bad car, Oh yeah, very bad.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And I have had that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I did have that with a friend who is also
an agent, which of course is a mistake and we
are still friends.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, so thank god. But it took some time because
it hurt.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It hurt. I was like, really, you're going to try
to come because she basically was like, you know that
the only reason anyone wants you is for the Sex
and the City money, right, And I was like, yeah,
I know that, but also someone could also do a
great job, because there's a lot of other.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Things I could do. So of course, the point of
saying that to me, I know, Okay, so Oliver.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I just finished a movie in Vancouver in Toronto, Toronto.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
For Netflix and it was so much fun, and we
talked about it before the show, but my son ended.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Up doing the Oh yeah, amazing, I can't wait to see.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So he wanted to be He wants to the whole
family wants to be actors, all the cousins, all kids, kids.
That's just kind of what the and I don't think
they know. They say they want to be actors, but
they don't know until they actually get in there and
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
And Wilder seventeen, my oldest, and he went into an
acting class and then I got this. I agreed to
do this gig, seventeen year old part to play my son,
myself and Alicia Silverstone, and I said, look, just audition, like,
you know, you can get you. I can get you
an audition, So just feel what that's like. At least
that's the extent of your help. Where I thought it
(19:29):
was going to go. Cut to five auditions later. Netflix
is just wanting to approve him. They need this, they
need that more scenes, and he gets the job and
it's a real part. It's it's he's through the whole thing.
He's in the whole movie. He's got big scenes, he's
got and so it was really special for me to
do that with him living in Toronto, wow, and being
(19:49):
together and having that experience his first time.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It was incredible. Yeah, I had this.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
You know, seventeen, we're still tight, but he's a teenage
of course, he goes to his own thing. You know,
he used to want to cuddle all the time. Now
it's an impossibility, you know. It's like one of those
So I had this sort of you know, rom com
montage in my head with music and everything, like, oh,
we're gonna get to Toronto and we're gonna sit on
the couch and watch movies and manbe we're gonna share
(20:19):
a beer and we're gonna talk about our feelings and
we're gonna we're gonna cuddle.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I mean, I had this idea, didn't even have it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
No, we get to the fucking apartment and you know,
and I'm like, dude, we're here.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It's so crazy. He says, yeah, yeah, cool up to
his room. The door closes. I'm like, oh my god,
we're right back in La. Like. I was like, Wilder,
you want to you want to like watch a movie?
And no, no, was.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He looking at his lines?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What was Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, he would come and do his lines a little
bit and then he got more comfortable. But it's one
of those things that he definitely appreciates, and once he
gets older and if he still is an actor, he's
going to look back on this and realize how special amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So I did that.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I've got a production company, I've got a deal with
Fox or just prove sing a bunch of stuff really fun.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And then I've got podcasts and I mean and a dad.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't even know how you do all these things.
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I don't know. I feel like I have free time,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, So when you were away, did you do the
podcast from Toronto?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's cool, that's the joy of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, it was great. It was great.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I haven't really done that part yet, but I'm looking
forward to podcast is going to make East and come
with me.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Here's the thing about doing it for so long is
you know, you get the call, you got to do
a podcast, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
And yeah, there's a bit of dread to it. To
be totally honest, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Like doing it for a while, I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm like, okay, here we go, right, we gotta do it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And of course I do it because I love it.
But at the same time, I'm like, oh my god,
just a minute. You get into the conversation with whoever
it is you're talking to, and then you finish and
the hour is done.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You're I know, it's a good time. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And I got to talk to this random person right now,
I know, and we had an amazing conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That is the joy.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, fun, It's true, it is the joy. That's why
sometimes I don't like to do it by myself. It's like,
because the fires, it was hard, you know, and we
we launched during the fires, which is awkward to get guests,
and I was like, why are we calling people?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It seems so strange.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
But then you have to address right, And I didn't,
you know, you wanted to live without being so connected
to something so crazy and awful, I know, but I
just thought, I mean a lot of it is my
memories too, right, So, but in this particular episode, I'm
just so thankful to have your straight guy respect it
because it's important, you know, and like for me sometimes
(22:38):
I can just been around in my girl head like
why was she with him?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Why was she with him?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But like part of the thing that is amazing about
our show is the topics are timeless, and talking about them.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
To me is still super interesting, Like it's fun dout.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, especially watching it.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You realize and I said this to you before, but
how far ahead of its time?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I know?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Amazing really, I mean we knew it was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But we didn't understand or have any way of knowing
the incredible journey, you know, that we would get to
go on and thank God that the writing was so incredible,
that we could act and that it came together. But
also that the fans. You know, we have like our
super loyal fans from the beginning, and now we have
these younger fans from Netflix.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Oh my god, Aaron and all of her girlfriends, Jackie
and Robin and all these people were like, oh, you're gonna.
I mean it's it's sick, cannot it's lived on your show.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I mean it's so special, special, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, if you need me on again, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh baby, you want to watch?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Were going to meet you on?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I think we're going to need you on because you
are a particularly special point of view, a man who
has worked on themselves and been in a long, accessful marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Love it well.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I thank you, Oliver, thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yay bye bye
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
you a Charlotte? Hi? Everybody, I am here with Oliver Hudson,
and there is still so much to talk about. In
season one, episode seven, the monogamousts all right, Carrie and
Big they' walking the street.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We talked about that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Then there it carries apartment and Miranda calls and carries
like I did the terrible thing, which is like I
ignored my friends because of a guy very bad, and
she has this really cute moment of like, it's so cute.
You also see through this show that we still have.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
To talk to the camera.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I know, like even the rest of us have to
talk to the camera. I did not remember that at all.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
There was one in the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
In the restaurant, it's almost carries just perspective and right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But but we are literally looking at the camera.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Freaky weird.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I know Darren directed it. I should have said that
at the beginning. Darren Starr wrote and directed this so
and he, like I said, he was really toying around
with different stuff and he loved the talking to the camera.
Sarah Jessica not so much. She's on record saying this,
so I'm not I'm not saying anything I'm not supposed to.
She does not love it right.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, there was one time I think she's in her
bedroom all of a sudden she goes and then ba
ba ba ba.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm like, whoa, I know, how hard is that for
an actor? It's strange because it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Takes you out, like why are you doing it? Sometimes
but not all the time talking who are you talking to?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Because if you're just there and you're hearing her thoughts,
that's great, But then her mouth is moving, she's talking
to something, but she's alone in her apartment. It's freaky.
And she was always struggling to really make it real,
you know, but how do you actually make that real?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
But Darren loved it, so Darren was trying for more.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But we still have at this point also, which really
made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The people on the street, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, when the guy's like, I've been in a monogamous
relationship for nine years, I sleep with prostitutes.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, what was that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's the weird thing that we did in the beginning,
which was kind of like this anthology feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Are those actors?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, they're actors acting like people on the Street, very
good ones. She thought there were real people where we
were like, hey, career, yeah, do a little acting bit.
Those are actors. One of them is one of our dps,
(02:28):
and I think he his name is Michael Spiller. He's
on the bench and he says, oh my god, now
I can't remember. I laugh every time I see him.
I'm like, why is why is he there? Because we
would flip back and forth with dps because it was
too hard to scowl everyone on film and then edit right,
and we hadn't gotten our We were still trying different
people out and I don't think I don't know if
(02:49):
he's I don't think he dpeed that episode. But he's
sitting on the bench. So one of them is repeat yeah,
and he says something weird and kind of looks at
the camera, and it is weird. But we know him
so obviously that's why it's weird. Then they're at the
all of us are at the restaurant, and I thought
that was good.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We don't have.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Our coffee shop established at this point, right, so we
would just be out at real restaurants in New York.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And you know how it is to film a dinner scene.
Oh gosh, it's long.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's really lot.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I just did it in Toronto a couple of times,
but one specific there's like six people around a table
rough and it is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
The worst it is.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's hard, and we always had these the corner stone,
but eventually we.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Build a set which made it easier.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But this one we're at the Bluewater Grill, I believe,
which we just show the sign we would have a restaurant,
we would crossboard it, right, so we try to make
it look different in one corner and then Big is
there having that thing.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I go out with.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I walk out of the front with the guy, yes,
who you know wants me to go down on it.
Also sidebar and I did just see Darren Star and
talk to him about this. At the time, both Darren
and I had Golden Retrievers and they were good friends,
the dogs, and they loved each other and we loved
our dogs. And there's a Golden Retriever in the show
and there used to be a scene it's really terrible.
(04:09):
This is the guy who wants me to go down
on him, right, And then I leave, you know eventually,
and Carrie's voiceover says something like, what's your name?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The dog is like Crystal or something.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The Crystal was very happy and she's sitting there looking
at him like very happy. There used to be a
scene where she was supposed to do something with really.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Gross peanut butter on his correct How did you know?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It just came to me.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Could you could feel that vibe in the scene?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Could you?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But we had good sense and didn't put it in
the final edit probably for sure. Smart and I saw
there on the other day and I was like, Darren,
guess what episode is coming up? And he was like, oh, yeah,
that never should have happened.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, you tackle a lot of subjects, but beast reality
might not.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, you might not want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It the beautiful golden Nord driver, Oh my god, which
really makes that guy seem horrific.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, then he needs to go to.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Jail right like bad anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Luckily, so every time we get to that part, I'm
like filled with nerves.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Remember you're doing the comedy part of it. You see
him pushing the don't the dog's head down? But then
the dog's resisting.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Too, right, No, the idea was that the dog was
really into it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh, I know, it'd have been funny, don't even.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Don't even as bad as bad. It's bad.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's bad as bad.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay, so you remember Skipper.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Skipper is the guy guy Miranda side of the other
woman when Miranda.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Is right, So basically the back the backup is.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Are you breaking up with him? Are you inside of
me and breaking this?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know? That was really funny, but also like, I
don't remember any of this, so it was so much
fun to watch it again. First of all, I love
the when Carrie and Miranda have dinner on the street
at like some little Italian restaurant. It is so amazing
because this is still a through line, and Miranda is
kind of the only one who just tells carry like, no,
that's all rrible idea.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
She's just very like, no, don't go out with big again, No,
you know whatever. And it's really funny because Cary goes
through her whole spiral like do you think when he
said I miss you, babe, that he was really saying
I'm sorry that I went out on a date with
that woman, when in fact we spend a whole week together.
And Miranda's like, maybe it's really funny, and then Carrie's like,
but then I have to doubt everything that he's ever
(06:22):
said to me. And then she goes like, I'm spiraling,
I'm losing my mind. And then Skipper walks by with
this woman who's very chic and works for Vogue and
talks about Paris, and Miranda's like huh and you can
just see her little, you know, brain turning, and they
walk away and then they tear each other's clothes up
in that weird, frenzied way which makes.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Literally no sense.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And then Miranda calls and is talking on the answering
machine like in the olden days, and they can hear
her voice. It just brought back ideas, right, and so
many memories. And they're having sex and she's basically like, oh,
you know, we should have dinner, she says on the phone,
and media just picking up the phone. It's just so mortified.
(07:04):
Oh my gosh, just so mortified. But like, the thing
now that I think it reminds me of is, you
know there are people who keep their phone with the
sounds on or the vibrating on all the time. Right,
I have my phone on silent all the time, probably
because we work and we can't have the cuts, but
also like, whatever you're doing you could be mid sentence,
you could be mid anything, and they'll pick their phone.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Up and she's like why Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It reminded me of that in a way. It's like
an old fashioned version of like the most inappropriate time
to pick the phone up, like that's very bad.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Oh of course, but he's he's obviously head over.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Her exactly matter it just can't help himself. And I
thought he acted it really well, really well. So it
picks it up and she basically says like, oh, very casually,
like we should have dinner, and he's like okay, and
then he hangs up and he says to the woman
that he's having sex, like I'm in love with that woman.
I know, he's like a child. He has no venear, what's.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So funny?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And the poor woman says, are you breaking up with
me while you're incited me? And he was like yes
or whatever. Then the really side part is they go
to Miranda and him, you know, after sex in this
super cute shot on the Also, she's got like two
green flats like in the olden days we didn't have sets, right,
(08:21):
Like Charlotte had two white flats and they would just
move them around.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Flats are like like part of a set.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Like a board, right.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And so if you had to shoot one way, you'd
move them this to be the background, and then if
you had to shoot the other corner, you'd move them.
So Miranda has strangely two emerald green flats and like
a bed with like nothing. It's literally the starkest.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I noticed that, like no effort. I was like, where
is she in, like a prison cell?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Where a green prison?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Miranda? Yes, Branda.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So they're in the prison cell and they've had sex
and they're very adorably you know, spooning kind of or whatever,
chatting and he's like, oh, yeah, I had to break
up with that woman. And she's like what why did
you do that? And he's like, well, because you called
me back and she said no, no, we don't need
to be in a relationship. You can see her. She
has so much power. It's so interesting and it's so
not really Cynthia like in any way, Like she's not
(09:15):
a player, you know at.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
All, And it's funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Her acting but doing it like so brilliantly, you know,
which I don't feel what I watch myself at all.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean, I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A puppy I'm a puppy, I'm floundering.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I'm I don't know what I'm doing there do I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But she and I know she felt she didn't know
what she was doing because she used to turn to
me all the time and say, not my medium. She's
a theater actress, right, And she eventually, which I've also said,
sorry if I'm repeating myself, would watch the dailies. She
would get ask for the dailies every day, watch them
in the hair and makeup trailer. Yes she was on
a crash course. We would all come in the hair
(09:56):
makeup and be like, please take it all of a sudden, ye,
do not make us watch it while we're getting our
hair and makeup done. We will die. And so she
would take them home and watch that. Can you imagine
going home from work and watching your days every I mean,
she really is, like it's impressive. But even when I
watch back, I'm like, I don't really know why she's
(10:18):
saying that. She's fantastic, Like I don't know why she fell.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Before your show. She had done movies, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But I mean they were such highly level movies that
I don't think that it's obviously very different to be
in a music milos forman film than it is to
be in like a set sure show where you have
to I mean, yes, we did a lot of takes,
but like we were going.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
At multiple pages, oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like different locations and this and that, and if all
four of us were there and we're not really walking
and talking yet as a foursome, but once we start
walking and talking as a poursum like that is like
a very elaborate dance, you know, where you're having to
find the lens. You're having to be in front and
then behind, and then on this line and on that line.
And there's the musicality of it, which we talked about earlier,
and for me, I always thought of it. You know,
(11:03):
we're a quartet and you know my note was the
high note.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was like boooooo.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You know what I'm saying right.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Right, I mean it is right, especially in the beginning,
you know. But you and we had to talk really
fast because Michael expected that we had to have our lines.
We had to you know, it's like hardcore comedy, right,
so all of those things together it was very technically challenging.
But I only see that starting now, right, Like it's
more to two people scenes, right, and that she can
(11:36):
totally handle. And I think it's funny that she felt
like it wasn't a medium because I think she's brilliant, amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes, anyway, back to my paper.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So they're there, they're there, and and poor Skipper again
just kicked to the curb and he's like very upset.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think he's so good.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
He's so good. I know, it's really funny.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
But at the same time, you're looking at this guy like,
you know, did you think this was just an invite.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Back to love?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What was their relationship prior.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Their relationship was that he was the puppy and she
would like push him up against the wall as long
as she'd be like, you know, like like go away
with your little buzzy buzz you know, you're like a
little fly around me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I mean, he never had the power.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, it just goes back to miscommunication. He thinks one thing,
she wants another, and she was upfront about and saying, oh,
do your thing, and then he got but hurt and
that was the end of it. Yeah, he's just kind
of like, oh, well, this isn't what I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's kind of like the girl yeah right right, which
is adorable. Yeah, and really likable. I think at the
time I was like skipper, it is all. It's just
so funny to look back on my thoughts back then.
(12:57):
Oh my god, the apartment shopping situation. She never forgot
about this. So the Samantha storyline is that she's obsessed
with the new apartment and the great Caroline Aaron, who
was later in Marvel's Missus Mazel. I don't know if
you watch that, she's incredible. She's Samantha's realtor, which is
so funny, and she so made me laugh out loud
because she basically asks Samantha to be a monogamous client,
(13:20):
and Samantha's like, sure, and you absolutely know that she
does not intend to be a monogamous client. Cut to
her with a very handsome male realator looking at the
apartment and then off the top.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I know it was interesting because they had sex and
multiple apartments multiple Was it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The same day?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, it's a good question.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And then there was another one at night, that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
When she gets caught.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, was it the same day?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I mean, look, I wouldn't play apart I mean, yeah,
it could happen. Yeah, I mean she does what she wants. Yes,
And this is why I think people really really love
that character. No, I know, I mean it's pretty brash,
but I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Think we need to be monogamous to our real estate.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I mean, Richard is a good friend of mine who
saw in my house. I've known him since we were
like in LA.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You're selling your house.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
When I when I was and when I bought and sold.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And I feel like if I he caught.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, no, I have my real liters, my friend and
I would never two time her, right No. Yeah, Also
it's their livelihood.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I know, you know. Yeah, So maybe.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Maybe Caroline's character was right.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Maybe she was right.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Maybe she was right. You're right, Yeah, maybe you need
to be a monogamous to your Really.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
The hardest breakup I've ever had was with a therapist
when I wanted to go see someone else.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's hard.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm like, so this is really tough for me, But
you know, jan, I don't think it's working anymore, and
I'm going to see another therapist.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And what did they say?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Cool? Their therapists?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, we're more scared, of course.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But if they had any other you know.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It would be strange and profession if he or.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
She was like you little son. Actually real quick story,
and I get off, I get off topic. But the
hardest breakup that I ever had was with my first agent,
because I again I wasn't you know, I wasn't being
and I wasn't want to be an actor. But I
just fell into it, and of course I love it.
But I was trying to model to make money, which
(15:27):
was the most horrific experience in my life.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
There's a million stories about that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But they had an agency within the modeling agent, a
little small deal, yeah yeah. And I was with this
girl I won't say her name, and you know, she
was helping me do my thing. And I get, I
get like a little gig girl whatever. And then another
little gig and then a bigger agency wants to sort
of bring me on still kind of a mid level thing.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But and I was talking to my manager.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I'm like, I'm so scared, like I don't know what
to say, and really hard. And she said, he said,
they deal with this all the time. Okay, that's what
I said. I said, Dave, you do it how I
need to do.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Also, I would make Dave do it.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah no, I said, Dave go, Yeah, no, you need
to do this. Said, okay, they have to.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
She's gonna be cool. Happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I said, so listen, I really appreciate you, and I
thank you so much. But I've had this amazing opportunity
to advance my career with representation. The whole thing it
was quiet, and she's like, you little son of a bitch. Now,
dare you you bastard? No, I can't believe you. The
(16:31):
only reason anyone wants you is because your mother's Goldie home.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
When they try to kill you, never good, never good,
never good.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I was laughing. I said, well, now, thank god, I have.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
A similar situation.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes, this is now, I know, I said, who's the
adult here? Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Cut to many years later, I'm on a sitcom Rules
of Engagement. I'm semi famous, I'm making money. There's a
guest star who comes on the show. This woman is
the guest star's agent who's there for the week. Oh no,
she doesn't even say anything to me. And finally at
the end, at the end, I say, hey, her name, Uh,
(17:15):
how are you?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
She's like, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Wow, you know, and I was like, I'm not doing
too bad, right, So do you approve all this?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know? She was just just, you know, could not
believe that this was happening.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And wait did she give you anything?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But still I was sad. That's really sad.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I can be pretty vindictious.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think that's okay. I know I can be I
think that's okay. This is my feeling in general, and
this is with a romantic thing or an agent thing,
or a professional thing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And I've had it in all the different forms.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
When you try to leave, especially being polite and saying
I really appreciate you, thank you for everything you've done. No, no,
and you try to leave and they try to kill you,
you know, they try to like take you down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Very bad.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah bad car, Oh yeah, very bad.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And I have had that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I did have that with a friend who is also
an agent, which of course is a mistake and we
are still friends.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, so thank god. But it took some time because
it hurt.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It hurt. I was like, really, you're going to try
to come because she basically was like, you know that
the only reason anyone wants you is for the Sex
and the City money, right, And I was like, yeah,
I know that, but also someone could also do a
great job, because there's a lot of other.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Things I could do. So of course, the point of
saying that to me, I know, Okay, so Oliver.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I just finished a movie in Vancouver in Toronto, Toronto.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
For Netflix and it was so much fun, and we
talked about it before the show, but my son ended.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Up doing the Oh yeah, amazing, I can't wait to see.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So he wanted to be He wants to the whole
family wants to be actors, all the cousins, all kids, kids.
That's just kind of what the and I don't think
they know. They say they want to be actors, but
they don't know until they actually get in there and
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
And Wilder seventeen, my oldest, and he went into an
acting class and then I got this. I agreed to
do this gig, seventeen year old part to play my son,
myself and Alicia Silverstone, and I said, look, just audition, like,
you know, you can get you. I can get you
an audition, So just feel what that's like. At least
that's the extent of your help. Where I thought it
(19:29):
was going to go. Cut to five auditions later. Netflix
is just wanting to approve him. They need this, they
need that more scenes, and he gets the job and
it's a real part. It's it's he's through the whole thing.
He's in the whole movie. He's got big scenes, he's
got and so it was really special for me to
do that with him living in Toronto, wow, and being
(19:49):
together and having that experience his first time.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It was incredible. Yeah, I had this.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
You know, seventeen, we're still tight, but he's a teenage
of course, he goes to his own thing. You know,
he used to want to cuddle all the time. Now
it's an impossibility, you know. It's like one of those
So I had this sort of you know, rom com
montage in my head with music and everything, like, oh,
we're gonna get to Toronto and we're gonna sit on
the couch and watch movies and manbe we're gonna share
(20:19):
a beer and we're gonna talk about our feelings and
we're gonna we're gonna cuddle.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I mean, I had this idea, didn't even have it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
No, we get to the fucking apartment and you know,
and I'm like, dude, we're here.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It's so crazy. He says, yeah, yeah, cool up to
his room. The door closes. I'm like, oh my god,
we're right back in La. Like. I was like, Wilder,
you want to you want to like watch a movie?
And no, no, was.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He looking at his lines?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What was Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, he would come and do his lines a little
bit and then he got more comfortable. But it's one
of those things that he definitely appreciates, and once he
gets older and if he still is an actor, he's
going to look back on this and realize how special amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So I did that.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I've got a production company, I've got a deal with
Fox or just prove sing a bunch of stuff really fun.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And then I've got podcasts and I mean and a dad.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't even know how you do all these things.
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I don't know. I feel like I have free time,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, So when you were away, did you do the
podcast from Toronto?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's cool, that's the joy of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, it was great. It was great.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I haven't really done that part yet, but I'm looking
forward to podcast is going to make East and come
with me.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Here's the thing about doing it for so long is
you know, you get the call, you got to do
a podcast, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
And yeah, there's a bit of dread to it. To
be totally honest, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Like doing it for a while, I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm like, okay, here we go, right, we gotta do it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And of course I do it because I love it.
But at the same time, I'm like, oh my god,
just a minute. You get into the conversation with whoever
it is you're talking to, and then you finish and
the hour is done.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You're I know, it's a good time. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And I got to talk to this random person right now,
I know, and we had an amazing conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That is the joy.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, fun, It's true, it is the joy. That's why
sometimes I don't like to do it by myself. It's like,
because the fires, it was hard, you know, and we
we launched during the fires, which is awkward to get guests,
and I was like, why are we calling people?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It seems so strange.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
But then you have to address right, And I didn't,
you know, you wanted to live without being so connected
to something so crazy and awful, I know, but I
just thought, I mean a lot of it is my
memories too, right, So, but in this particular episode, I'm
just so thankful to have your straight guy respect it
because it's important, you know, and like for me sometimes
(22:38):
I can just been around in my girl head like
why was she with him?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Why was she with him?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But like part of the thing that is amazing about
our show is the topics are timeless, and talking about them.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
To me is still super interesting, Like it's fun dout.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, especially watching it.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You realize and I said this to you before, but
how far ahead of its time?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I know?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Amazing really, I mean we knew it was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But we didn't understand or have any way of knowing
the incredible journey, you know, that we would get to
go on and thank God that the writing was so incredible,
that we could act and that it came together. But
also that the fans. You know, we have like our
super loyal fans from the beginning, and now we have
these younger fans from Netflix.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Oh my god, Aaron and all of her girlfriends, Jackie
and Robin and all these people were like, oh, you're gonna.
I mean it's it's sick, cannot it's lived on your show.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I mean it's so special, special, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, if you need me on again, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh baby, you want to watch?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Were going to meet you on?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I think we're going to need you on because you
are a particularly special point of view, a man who
has worked on themselves and been in a long, accessful marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Love it well.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I thank you, Oliver, thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yay bye bye
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