April 11, 2025 • 30 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back for part two of our dating app workshop! We kick off the episode with tips and tricks for one of the most important aspects of your dating app profile: the bio! Then, we teach you how to navigate apps and get yourself out there. From red flags to look for, to sticking the landing with a match, we’re getting into it all. We’re making sure you’re finding matches, booking first dates, and making your way to an everlasting love connection. Tune in now to get all of our advice so you can get back out there(removed comma) and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. We are
back for part two talking all things dating apps. Let's
jump right back in here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So now you get past.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The pictures, all right, then we're gonna write to.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Baby. I've had so many.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So what short? What are the top things you should include, Susan?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So first of all, don't be too worthy, some of
them are so long. I like the wittier ones, if
you will, so do I. I like to share what
I'm looking for because that's what this is about. Yeah,
you have to check off a box, whether you want
long term, short term, just looking and having.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Those are the check boxes I'm talking about the bio.
Just what you write about yourself? What kinds of things
do you write?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The things that I enjoy and what I want in
a person. I describe my personality a little bit happy
by nature, you know, love to laugh. Want somebody that
can enjoy a big personality, whether it's live music and dinner,
a glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Stop breaking at home. Everybody needs to hear what she
just said, because in those couple of sentences, you said
a lot about yourself. You like to cook, you like
to laugh, You're happy, you like to be at home.
You like to go out. That's the information you need
to give to people, right, you need to tell them.
So for example, if you're a homebody, Oh that's something.
(01:40):
Be honest. By the way, don't say you love to
go out and party and you don't and you don't,
because what are you going to attract party guys? So
be honest about what you are looking for. If you're
looking to get married, say I'm looking for my permanent person,
I'm looking for a spouse. Be honest about what yoking for.
(02:01):
Don't make it too long because too much. Yeah, you
want to leave a little yeah to question, So don't
make it too long, But do give people enough to
make them curious to want to know more about you. Oh,
by the way, back to photos, make sure you're smiling
in them. Just I know you'd think that would be obvious,
(02:24):
wouldn't you. One would think, Okay, what about prompts? What
do you think about prompts?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Prompts like.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
What's your first what's your ideal first date?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Would be a problem. That could be a cup of coffee,
It could be.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, but what do you think? What should you answer?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Not? I never click those you never do Whatever makes
you happy. I don't care. I'm trying to find one,
Kathy that I copied this guy. It was years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You copied his prompt.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now I cop I just loved the words. He was
so good. It was funny. He had such a good thing.
He was not for me, but he had a great
description of himself, and he had the humor in it,
he had serious in it. It was just good.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, while you're while you're scrolling looking for it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Wait, I love the long walks in the park or
the sand or whatever there's water. I mean, come on, really,
you know it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean it's like, okay, what are some cringey like
things that you see that you avoid in a in
a bio or in a profile.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, I have to get past the picture to read.
Some of them are nothing at all. They don't write anything.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, But what is when I'm looking if the pictures
are okay, and I start reading the bio and it
starts saying, you know, I've been divorced and I'm lonely,
and oh my god, I just want to cry. I
don't want to see you. You know, you sound like
(04:13):
anyone that sounds negative. I'm not interested in what about you.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't do cringey? What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, I know the ones here you go? Well, and
this is again you gotta pay respect where I respect
the fact that he's honest. I am married, but have
an open relationship. Are you serious right now? But I
guess yes, you gets women that are okay with that.
It's two each's own.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, No, I mean that's that's I'm not interested in that.
All right, you're you're on the app, you're ready to
start swiping and chatting? What are you going to do?
We're using the app now, Susan. What are the red
flags to avoid when swiping? I'd say one picture where
it looks like they copied it from somewhere else on
the internet. What else.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
A red flag?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Damn, no shirt and tight something that shows bolds like
that's like disgusting to me. Oh, there's a lot of them,
A lot of them.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay, Well, I find red flags are when they there,
they don't it doesn't match, like their pictures don't match
what they say about themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
A lot of them don't say much though, I mean
there's so many.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, for me, a red flag is when there's not
a match between the verbiage and the pictures. Like you know,
there's a guy out on a sailboat and he says,
I'm a lay and lover. I've literally had those. I'm like, really,
because did you see that picture you put out there?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Here's one of the ones I used to have. Looking
for a relationship in all phases. I know what I
want and what I'm looking for. I like the instant
mutual spark from the moment we met, not into games.
I'm affectionate, not afraid to show it, where my heart
on my sleeve, easy to talk to, and I warm
(06:12):
up quickly. That's enough, young attitude and spirit looking for
the same.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's a lot about oneself though, right.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's well, he just said what he or show you
whoever it is what they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's music, dancing, beach and goth movies and culture. Let's
meet and see if we click.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I love it, and that's why I was That was
one of my gusts. I like it what I thought
it was you, But I didn't want to ask what
to look for in profiles like I want to look
for someone that has energy. I don't want I'll tell
the ones I avoid when they say they prefer texting
to calling or to you know, facetiming or whatever. Ye like,
(06:53):
I want to meet you. We'll chat for a little
bit on the on the app, and then we're done.
We're either going to meet or we're not going to meet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do you ever send dms?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I don't have it anymore, But that guy's was so humorous.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh my god, do you ever DM Susan? Once you've matched?
Do you do it? Or do you wait for them?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh? I speak right out? No? Are you just like
you know, you reach out to the message. I'll send
the message if and it's a match, I usually say hi, Hi,
I'm Susan something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So I don't so if I match with someone like
if I click like, and then I'll go you're a match.
I wait for them to reach out. You don't why No,
I don't know. Just do I'm old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'll go high or I'll wave, you know, whatever one
of those symbols are. It's just like a start, like
he obviously chose you, and you just swiped and you
chose him.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean say hello, I'm obviously doing something wrong on
the apps because the guys that I meet on the
apps sound tips. Usually they sound interesting, and then I
talked to them on the phone, I'm like maybe, and
then I meet them and it's like, so it's either me,
I'm not sure what it is. That's why I'm not.
(08:08):
I think that's why I'm not very successful on apps,
because I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't like to talk all that talk on the field.
Let's go meet. Whether it's just ten minutes and a
cup of coffee, do it. I don't care if it's
a drive by. I need eye contact and I could
know immediately if there's chemistry. I don't want to waste
your evening, nor do you want to waste yours own mind.
So I like to meet for a short thing. And
that's such a.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
What's your typical date?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I haven't had one of quite some thought.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, no, no, seriously, when you met agone an app? What's
your typical date?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Meet for a glass of wine or a cup of coffee.
I've met like when I lived in the city, strolled
down on Penn's landing, you know, just a few minutes
and then we take it from there. Do you want
to take it and go on a date? Okay, but
this is not a date. That first meet is not
a date to me, It's just a quick half hour
(09:04):
you just meet.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I've never done that. I've always they've always asked me
for dinner or a drink, and then let's say, oh,
I'm really enjoying you, do you want to stay for dinner.
I've never had a that's lovely.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That's lovely and if I'm not enjoying them, do you
stay for dinner?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean, it's nothing about it, I think, if I'm
being honest, it's not. The guys that I've met on
the dating apps are with very few exceptions, have been
guys that are interesting and nice, and I've dated a
couple of them for a while, but I'm not really
interested in them in long term.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
In other words, there's no chemistry.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I guess that's what I know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
When there's chemistry, I know within the first five minutes
something about his smile or his eyes or whatever it is,
without even knowing who they are. Yet another thing for
me is I do not want to be questioned to death,
(10:05):
but I need you to ask something, show some interest
that you're interested in who I am, or where I
come from, or what I do or what I like
when they sit there and only talk about themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I mean, so that's the whole thing about dating apps.
You know, we talk about doing the right pictures, having
the right bio, having it be witty, having it be fun,
having it be cute, not having it be too long,
not too short, good pick. You know, all of that
a start.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It is why we need a business on helping people.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It is, it is. But once you've done all that,
the dating apps are just I hate the word, but
it's true. They're sort of conduits, right. They help us date.
But when you get on that first day people, that's
where I want. That's the next step. You know, that's
like step foot whatever, step on, step four, step five,
(11:02):
the first date with a person on the dating app,
because that can be a make or break. If you
you and I talked about this, this guy that you
met on a dating app. I mean, you've met several guys,
so have I. All they want to do is talk
about themselves. They don't do you remember? So okay, here
(11:22):
remember in Florida. Let me tell you we were in Florida.
Met a guy on a dating app. She met him,
she forced my hand to go with her. I met
this great couple who recognized me in the bar. So
while Susan's talking to this guy, I'm chatting with this
fabulous couple. He comes back to our hotel, sits in
the lobby. Susan still demands that I stay with her. Yeah, guy, yeah,
(11:43):
This guy did not stop talking about himself, did not stop.
And finally I looked at him, and because I knew
Susan was never going to see him again and I
was flying out the next morning, what could he do
to me? I said, can I give you a little
dating advice?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Here?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
He goes sure, And I said, all you've done is
talk about yourself. You have not asked Susan anything about herself.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And I turned and said what do you know about me?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And what did he say?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, he said, he goes, well, her pictures, she kind
of looks fun. I remember I.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Would look great on my arm walking down.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And what do you know about her? And he said, well,
I guess wait, do you guys want to come over
here and see my Facebook page? With that, I got,
but said Susan, I'm going to bed goodnight. I mean
trying to help the guy. So when you're on her
first date, that's one list about the ones that talk
incessively about their exes.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You don't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You never talk about you do not do not talk
about your ex. Whether it's an ex husband or an
escape friend. I don't care what is, just do not
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And then some of them trashed them because they're anger.
They're bitter still, and that's direct thing to be out
there until you're ready to meet someone new. You don't come,
don't waste people's time.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I told you the date that I went on. He
was a lawyer, he had retired and he lived here
in Austin, and all he did was talk about is
deceased wife. That's it the entire day, right. I finally said,
you know, I really have to go. I did go
pray about my deceased husband.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean I have counseled people. I mean just that
they're like a therapy session. He was like, thank you
so much. I mean, I wasn't interested, but he was
a nice person and he was struggling. I said, can
I just give you some advice?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I felt like, but you do you think they took it? So,
So when you're on that first date, make sure you're
a good listener. Ask the other person some questions.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But don't question them to death.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah no, no, no, passion, yeah fine, balance, don't order the
most expensive thing off the menu.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I never look at the price.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well you should? Why because are you.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Paying for that? Noll? See I'm different than most because
I'll pay.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
No, no, no, But if if he's not allowing you
to pay, and you don't know when you're or so
I never ordered the most expensive thing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
When I am on a meat and we're having a cocktail,
maybe some appetizers, and I know I don't feel a connection,
then I'm going to insist on paying hit the bill
because why should he waste it? A lot of people
date for dinners, date for jims face.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, see that's another point you took. That That was
step number six. Decide what it is that you want
out once you've been on the dating apps, be honest
with yourself. Are you looking for a short term for
a hook up? Are you looking for a short term partner,
a long term partner? Are you looking for a spouse?
What are you looking for? Because if you're dishonest, it's
(15:01):
just like you know you say you're five ten, one
hundred and thirty pounds and you walk in and you're actually,
you know, six feet and eighty What for me about
your height and weight? Right? Be honest about what you're
looking for in a partner. Why waste anyone's time? Why?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Why including your own? Because it's a waste. You'll probably
be sad because he's not gonna like it.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And then I think, what do you think about deciding
if you want a second date? What makes you decide
if you want a second date?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Chemistry? And do it lefter like I'm having fun, I'd
like to get to know you, and most of them
will say would you like to do this again?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And what do you say to most of them? If
I like them, I'm saying to most of them you
want a second date with no?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Definitely not.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm so afraid you would ask me that I had
to ask you first.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But then again, Kathy, I haven't really been out there
in the feud.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I haven't, but I will tell you. You know, getting
to know someone is not easy. I mean really, it's
because you know people.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
If there's a connection, it's so easy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are they nervous?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Me? Nervous?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Anybody? Do you think people could be nervous on a
first date?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I mean you can't. But I don't know how to
answer that because it's been around for so long.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I'm just saying, if you go out on a date
with something that you're really attracted to and then you
meet them and you're all, like, you know, hyped up.
I don't know. I just I just think the dating
people think. You get on a dating app and you
have all these guys. To me, the dating app is
just it's I hate the expression, the tip of the iceberg.
It's like, Okay, now you're on there, and now you
(16:48):
have to you have to call through all these guys
and the ones.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That don't you feel bad. It is like a job.
Like you said earlier, you get home and you have
all these messages and you don't want to be rude,
and you got to add, and then you get the
ones that it's like you're a pen pal for a
moth like ye, dude, I don't want to be your
pen pal.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I've got another PSA for you. Now. I think you're
going to describe me on the dating apps. I get
this all the time, and it just makes me want
to just go goodbye. X. You know, hi, Kathy, how
are you doing this evening? That's Okay, it's boring, but okay,
the next question, how long have you been on this site?
(17:27):
And what are you looking for? And I want to
write back, be the smartest, go what's it to you?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I mean, why, how long you've been on here?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's what I wrote that to one guy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, I get asked, what do you think of this
dating app?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I've never had that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I would kill to get off of it, get me
on here.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm just like, I don't know what the right answer is.
I've been on ten years, I've been on ten minutes. Like,
what do you want? Off?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And on?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's what I say, the truth on and off? And
then what you looking for? I want to say, I'm
looking for free tickets to the Ice Capades. Why do
you think I thought this app?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'm looking for my best friend? Yeah exactly, I'm I mean, see,
I want to be looking at their connection somebody.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I write that, but then I think they think it's like, oh,
she wants sex a sexual I don't know these people.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't connection of sex.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
No, I don't think it is. But I'm always trying
to think what are they thinking?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You overthink? Who cares what they're thinking? Just do you
it's enough. It is enough. It's like, then me get wait,
let's go down to now there's e harmony. You don't
get to see the picture. You fill out a form
that is like nine million questions long, and some of
them I can't even answer because it's like I just
(18:50):
but they match up personality Okay, and then they they.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Don't know what my personality Well, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
From seventeen hundred question questions. That's where they go.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You know what I'm telling you. You know what I
would write on that. I was really young when I
started this application, but you've aged me with the ten
thousand questions, so now I'm too old to date.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And that Okay. Hell now let's go down to the
paying ones. I've been on very expensive ones. They have
background checks, you you list your what you want. Okay,
yeah it was in the thousands. Okay, wait the first
date they have me go go on, did you finally
(19:35):
get the picture right before?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I go, are you excuse my friend? Don't kidding me?
I met that guy already on a free site. I
just paid three thousand dollars and that's the guys. Are
you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I was so mad?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Did you meet him now, I had already met him two.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Years prior, so then let me finish the That was
it three thousand dollars the second one.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
At that time, I wouldn't go out with anyone under
six foot. Now I'm shrinking, so it doesn't matter. But
I wanted six foot definitely, no children at home or
in school. I don't want to raise anybody's kids. I
don't want to help, like you know, if they're in
college or something. Okay, my next day and we went
(20:28):
to meet Okay, yeah, you're not ready. He had seven children,
the youngest being six, all at home, lived on a
farm in New Jersey, and was five foot nine. What
how did you did I pay you for this guy?
(20:49):
In the world. I didn't match they they did it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh it's one of those ideas. Yeah no, so let
me tell you I was. I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Was a nice, nice person. I stayed, I hung out
with them, and all you know, I shared. I was oos.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I hope you didn't need all your meal because he
needed the leftovers for the seven kids.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I couldn't believe you that many kids had lived on
a farm in Jersey and it was five. Why am
I paying?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
He's probably a shaker, you know what you know, no
no electricity kind of people. Friday night, the kid, get
out the candles. You don't drive a car till Monday.
Oh fabulous, Just.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like I want my money back.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I got approached. I'm not going to say the name
of a of a company now feature this. The guy
knew I was on the Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's why I don't want to go on.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, no, no, no, I didn't go on. It was they.
They called me and said, you know, it's a pay,
it's a pay, and it's a Let me just say
I enjoined their website, or I can buy myself a
nice diamond ring. I mean it's one or the other.
He said, uh. She said, he really wants to meet you,
and but you know, one of you has to pay
(22:12):
our very steep fee. And I basically said, well, I'm
not a cooker, so I'm not paying. You know, if
he wants to meet me, you can pay. But then
I started thinking, Susan on these websites. If he knew
I was on the Golden Bachelor, and he knew I
was from Texas, there's only one of me, right, there's
only one person from Texas. So what he couldn't find me.
(22:35):
I was like, maybe not smart. Yeah, no, I don't know.
I think those expensive websites are I think if you're
very high profile and you're you know, a Hollywood level person,
you don't want Tom Dick and Harry or Felman Louise,
you know, chasing you down. Then yeah, you can pay
for it, but I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I went on National TV to find love and still going.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, it's coming all right, So all in.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
All, once again I rejoined and I had just recently
in the last week, actually deleted the tender thing again.
It was like, what am I doing? What am I doing?
I did like it when I was away, because you
meet people where you're at that, Yeah, that workes. They
met a very interesting person in Saint Martin. As you know,
(23:25):
you don't speak the same language. That was difficult but
very charming.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Uh, and you met him on a dating Now listen, folks,
that'll be interesting to see where this one goes, because
you know, this guy Parley moved Francis and Susan struggles
with English. So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna
be a thing. But anyway, I think that The summary
of the apps for me is, you know, can't expect miracles.
(23:50):
You put your best foot out there if you decide
to join them. Don't do three or four. Pick one
or two. Take your time right, pick.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
One or two apps? Oh apps, I thought you meant people.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, pick rue or two apps. Take the best pictures
you can. Oh. The other thing is change your pictures frequently.
Do as I say, not as I going.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
To look stale from three years ago. You still have
the same pictures though, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Change your clothes, change your hair, change your pictures, and
then write the best bio you can. And then I
really do think you have to trust your gut, you know,
get to know them. Do we really have to talk
about safety dating? I guess we do, because all the
apps on there talk about, you know, don't get Oh
here's another little tidbit of advice.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
What's a red flag for you? Ken?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Hold on? Wait, let me just say, get a Google
phone number. I did that when I got on the apps.
You know why, friends, If you someone has your cell number,
they can find out anything about you, where you live, everything.
If you have a Google phone number, it's untraceable. And
you know what I give guys my Google phone number
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when I first talked to them, And I always know
if it's a bad guy because he'll say, why didn't
you give me your real number? Why did you give
me a Google number? And I'll say, because I don't
know you and I want to be safe, and you
can't trace this number. So if I decide you're safe
and we go down the road. But I would recommend
that to everybody, especially but I didn't do it because
(25:21):
Susan likes to live on the edge. Yeah, yeah, too bad.
They have all your information, they know where you live.
They're knocking on your door. Can you hear them knock knock?
It's not that easy, is it that?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Today? Guess what? The whole world knows where we are?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, well, I think then why do you think they's.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The first red flag? Like if you like, my red
flag was somebody that doesn't ask me anything about me?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And do mean on a date or on the on
an app?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
What would be a red flag on an app? That
would be the picture that's where you go wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The pictures are the red flags for me.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, I am say, you're going to meet somebody's what's.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
If they come to the house if they come to
the restaurant or whatever and they're they're not gentlemen. I'm
telling you, I'm old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
If that somebody that doesn't treat the waitress, if you.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Do not teach as, if you treat a server, well
you're done. So I'm looking for that. I'm looking for polite.
I'm looking for fun. I'm looking for someone who enjoys
life laughing. But a red flag is somebody who just
talks about themselves or a deceased spouse, or criticizes people
(26:33):
or complains about their life. I mean, I want like you.
I'm basically a happy person. I want a happy person.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah yeah, so similar and like the things that I like. Yeah, well,
but it is difficult. I mean it's a first date
or first meet if you will, and you're trying to
share who you are and get to know who they
are an awe. For me, it all boils down to
is their chemistry. Chemistry speaks volumes, because there if there isn't.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Does that mean if they're what do you mean? Does
that mean? If they're if they're good kissers, what does
that mean? No?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Before the kiss? If you're enjoying them, you like something
about them, You want more. I usually know that within
a few minutes. Something charming about them that's good to me,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I cannot believe you said that. I'm not. I
can't believe you said that because for me, I hate
to admit that. Susan, I I suss it out pretty
quickly whether or not I'm interested. I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I told you, I know in two minutes.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Do you really though?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Can I call you on that?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
The guy you met in Saint Martin that when I
went with you, you turned around and said, I said
you he's cute. You went, I don't know. I don't
think I'm feeling it. That's what you said. Well you're
feeling it now.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That was the first two minutes. I didn't know. I
couldn't understand it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Wor he said, all right, listen, guys, this has been
feeling so much fun. Oh, she definitely films me.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
He's a great guy.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
He's a great gule. Susan is going to a prong
Francis learn from. I'm sure that she was Spanish to
be a little easier. It's they're both the same.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But they had answer like you saw, we had ear
pods in we're trying to communicate my phone, and I
remember like twenty five minutes thirty minutes in, I said,
you know where I come from. When you go to
meet somebody, you make eye contact. I couldn't even tell
you what color your eyes were. You started to live.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Let me just say to you guys out there, we
can't give up. We have to be positive. Go on
the apps, get out, get off the sofa. Try to
meet people organically. If you if you're dating on apps,
be yourself, because you know what when you meet the person,
they're going to see who you are anyway, So get
on the apps.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ghost people. I got ghosted last year. I guess it
was that was like and ghost It meanings stood up
in my.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Light. If you make a date, show up.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Us know.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We hope that this has helped you.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Somewhat in dating apps, especially Kathy. How about people that
have never gone on, like you know, the older generation.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
We gave them step by step how to.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Do it to Just call us. We'll walk you through it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I thought we just did spend the last hour walking
them through. Where were you? They're scared? Don't be scared.
Everybody listen, it's everyone is afraid going on a dating app.
Be safe, don't go to a private pace, go to
a public place, meet them for a drink. If nothing else,
you got out of the house for half an hour.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Don't let the house first time.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh Jesus, what Susan.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Don't let him in your heart, don't bring him over
your home. And for the first day.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did you really have to say that?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, yes, you don't pick up you know. But we
can go on for ever and ever on the subject.
And if you do want questions or advice about our comments,
please yeah, please let us know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Let's see, because we are still Susan half asked, but
we're still on the search, and we're just hoping that
everyone finds love because you know what, don't ever forget
every one of us deserves loves.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Were all absolutely and make sure submit your questions, give
us your comments. You know what to do Bachelor nation
dot com, slash Golden Hour or dm us on Instagram
at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And we've really enjoyed this and we hope that you
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you get your podcasts. Until next time, take care down
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. We are
back for part two talking all things dating apps. Let's
jump right back in here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So now you get past.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The pictures, all right, then we're gonna write to.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Baby. I've had so many.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So what short? What are the top things you should include, Susan?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So first of all, don't be too worthy, some of
them are so long. I like the wittier ones, if
you will, so do I. I like to share what
I'm looking for because that's what this is about. Yeah,
you have to check off a box, whether you want
long term, short term, just looking and having.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Those are the check boxes I'm talking about the bio.
Just what you write about yourself? What kinds of things
do you write?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The things that I enjoy and what I want in
a person. I describe my personality a little bit happy
by nature, you know, love to laugh. Want somebody that
can enjoy a big personality, whether it's live music and dinner,
a glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Stop breaking at home. Everybody needs to hear what she
just said, because in those couple of sentences, you said
a lot about yourself. You like to cook, you like
to laugh, You're happy, you like to be at home.
You like to go out. That's the information you need
to give to people, right, you need to tell them.
So for example, if you're a homebody, Oh that's something.
(01:40):
Be honest. By the way, don't say you love to
go out and party and you don't and you don't,
because what are you going to attract party guys? So
be honest about what you are looking for. If you're
looking to get married, say I'm looking for my permanent person,
I'm looking for a spouse. Be honest about what yoking for.
(02:01):
Don't make it too long because too much. Yeah, you
want to leave a little yeah to question, So don't
make it too long, But do give people enough to
make them curious to want to know more about you. Oh,
by the way, back to photos, make sure you're smiling
in them. Just I know you'd think that would be obvious,
(02:24):
wouldn't you. One would think, Okay, what about prompts? What
do you think about prompts?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Prompts like.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
What's your first what's your ideal first date?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Would be a problem. That could be a cup of coffee,
It could be.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, but what do you think? What should you answer?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Not? I never click those you never do Whatever makes
you happy. I don't care. I'm trying to find one,
Kathy that I copied this guy. It was years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You copied his prompt.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now I cop I just loved the words. He was
so good. It was funny. He had such a good thing.
He was not for me, but he had a great
description of himself, and he had the humor in it,
he had serious in it. It was just good.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, while you're while you're scrolling looking for it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Wait, I love the long walks in the park or
the sand or whatever there's water. I mean, come on, really,
you know it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean it's like, okay, what are some cringey like
things that you see that you avoid in a in
a bio or in a profile.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, I have to get past the picture to read.
Some of them are nothing at all. They don't write anything.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, But what is when I'm looking if the pictures
are okay, and I start reading the bio and it
starts saying, you know, I've been divorced and I'm lonely,
and oh my god, I just want to cry. I
don't want to see you. You know, you sound like
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anyone that sounds negative. I'm not interested in what about you.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't do cringey? What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, I know the ones here you go? Well, and
this is again you gotta pay respect where I respect
the fact that he's honest. I am married, but have
an open relationship. Are you serious right now? But I
guess yes, you gets women that are okay with that.
It's two each's own.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, No, I mean that's that's I'm not interested in that.
All right, you're you're on the app, you're ready to
start swiping and chatting? What are you going to do?
We're using the app now, Susan. What are the red
flags to avoid when swiping? I'd say one picture where
it looks like they copied it from somewhere else on
the internet. What else.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
A red flag?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Damn, no shirt and tight something that shows bolds like
that's like disgusting to me. Oh, there's a lot of them,
A lot of them.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay, Well, I find red flags are when they there,
they don't it doesn't match, like their pictures don't match
what they say about themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
A lot of them don't say much though, I mean
there's so many.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, for me, a red flag is when there's not
a match between the verbiage and the pictures. Like you know,
there's a guy out on a sailboat and he says,
I'm a lay and lover. I've literally had those. I'm like, really,
because did you see that picture you put out there?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Here's one of the ones I used to have. Looking
for a relationship in all phases. I know what I
want and what I'm looking for. I like the instant
mutual spark from the moment we met, not into games.
I'm affectionate, not afraid to show it, where my heart
on my sleeve, easy to talk to, and I warm
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up quickly. That's enough, young attitude and spirit looking for
the same.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's a lot about oneself though, right.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's well, he just said what he or show you
whoever it is what they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's music, dancing, beach and goth movies and culture. Let's
meet and see if we click.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I love it, and that's why I was That was
one of my gusts. I like it what I thought
it was you, But I didn't want to ask what
to look for in profiles like I want to look
for someone that has energy. I don't want I'll tell
the ones I avoid when they say they prefer texting
to calling or to you know, facetiming or whatever. Ye like,
(06:53):
I want to meet you. We'll chat for a little
bit on the on the app, and then we're done.
We're either going to meet or we're not going to meet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do you ever send dms?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I don't have it anymore, But that guy's was so humorous.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh my god, do you ever DM Susan? Once you've matched?
Do you do it? Or do you wait for them?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh? I speak right out? No? Are you just like
you know, you reach out to the message. I'll send
the message if and it's a match, I usually say hi, Hi,
I'm Susan something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So I don't so if I match with someone like
if I click like, and then I'll go you're a match.
I wait for them to reach out. You don't why No,
I don't know. Just do I'm old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'll go high or I'll wave, you know, whatever one
of those symbols are. It's just like a start, like
he obviously chose you, and you just swiped and you
chose him.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean say hello, I'm obviously doing something wrong on
the apps because the guys that I meet on the
apps sound tips. Usually they sound interesting, and then I
talked to them on the phone, I'm like maybe, and
then I meet them and it's like, so it's either me,
I'm not sure what it is. That's why I'm not.
(08:08):
I think that's why I'm not very successful on apps,
because I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't like to talk all that talk on the field.
Let's go meet. Whether it's just ten minutes and a
cup of coffee, do it. I don't care if it's
a drive by. I need eye contact and I could
know immediately if there's chemistry. I don't want to waste
your evening, nor do you want to waste yours own mind.
So I like to meet for a short thing. And
that's such a.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
What's your typical date?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I haven't had one of quite some thought.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, no, no, seriously, when you met agone an app? What's
your typical date?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Meet for a glass of wine or a cup of coffee.
I've met like when I lived in the city, strolled
down on Penn's landing, you know, just a few minutes
and then we take it from there. Do you want
to take it and go on a date? Okay, but
this is not a date. That first meet is not
a date to me, It's just a quick half hour
(09:04):
you just meet.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I've never done that. I've always they've always asked me
for dinner or a drink, and then let's say, oh,
I'm really enjoying you, do you want to stay for dinner.
I've never had a that's lovely.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That's lovely and if I'm not enjoying them, do you
stay for dinner?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean, it's nothing about it, I think, if I'm
being honest, it's not. The guys that I've met on
the dating apps are with very few exceptions, have been
guys that are interesting and nice, and I've dated a
couple of them for a while, but I'm not really
interested in them in long term.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
In other words, there's no chemistry.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I guess that's what I know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
When there's chemistry, I know within the first five minutes
something about his smile or his eyes or whatever it is,
without even knowing who they are. Yet another thing for
me is I do not want to be questioned to death,
(10:05):
but I need you to ask something, show some interest
that you're interested in who I am, or where I
come from, or what I do or what I like
when they sit there and only talk about themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I mean, so that's the whole thing about dating apps.
You know, we talk about doing the right pictures, having
the right bio, having it be witty, having it be fun,
having it be cute, not having it be too long,
not too short, good pick. You know, all of that
a start.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It is why we need a business on helping people.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It is, it is. But once you've done all that,
the dating apps are just I hate the word, but
it's true. They're sort of conduits, right. They help us date.
But when you get on that first day people, that's
where I want. That's the next step. You know, that's
like step foot whatever, step on, step four, step five,
(11:02):
the first date with a person on the dating app,
because that can be a make or break. If you
you and I talked about this, this guy that you
met on a dating app. I mean, you've met several guys,
so have I. All they want to do is talk
about themselves. They don't do you remember? So okay, here
(11:22):
remember in Florida. Let me tell you we were in Florida.
Met a guy on a dating app. She met him,
she forced my hand to go with her. I met
this great couple who recognized me in the bar. So
while Susan's talking to this guy, I'm chatting with this
fabulous couple. He comes back to our hotel, sits in
the lobby. Susan still demands that I stay with her. Yeah, guy, yeah,
(11:43):
This guy did not stop talking about himself, did not stop.
And finally I looked at him, and because I knew
Susan was never going to see him again and I
was flying out the next morning, what could he do
to me? I said, can I give you a little
dating advice?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Here?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
He goes sure, And I said, all you've done is
talk about yourself. You have not asked Susan anything about herself.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And I turned and said what do you know about me?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And what did he say?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, he said, he goes, well, her pictures, she kind
of looks fun. I remember I.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Would look great on my arm walking down.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And what do you know about her? And he said, well,
I guess wait, do you guys want to come over
here and see my Facebook page? With that, I got,
but said Susan, I'm going to bed goodnight. I mean
trying to help the guy. So when you're on her
first date, that's one list about the ones that talk
incessively about their exes.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You don't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You never talk about you do not do not talk
about your ex. Whether it's an ex husband or an
escape friend. I don't care what is, just do not
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And then some of them trashed them because they're anger.
They're bitter still, and that's direct thing to be out
there until you're ready to meet someone new. You don't come,
don't waste people's time.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I told you the date that I went on. He
was a lawyer, he had retired and he lived here
in Austin, and all he did was talk about is
deceased wife. That's it the entire day, right. I finally said,
you know, I really have to go. I did go
pray about my deceased husband.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean I have counseled people. I mean just that
they're like a therapy session. He was like, thank you
so much. I mean, I wasn't interested, but he was
a nice person and he was struggling. I said, can
I just give you some advice?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I felt like, but you do you think they took it? So,
So when you're on that first date, make sure you're
a good listener. Ask the other person some questions.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But don't question them to death.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah no, no, no, passion, yeah fine, balance, don't order the
most expensive thing off the menu.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I never look at the price.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well you should? Why because are you.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Paying for that? Noll? See I'm different than most because
I'll pay.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
No, no, no, But if if he's not allowing you
to pay, and you don't know when you're or so
I never ordered the most expensive thing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
When I am on a meat and we're having a cocktail,
maybe some appetizers, and I know I don't feel a connection,
then I'm going to insist on paying hit the bill
because why should he waste it? A lot of people
date for dinners, date for jims face.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, see that's another point you took. That That was
step number six. Decide what it is that you want
out once you've been on the dating apps, be honest
with yourself. Are you looking for a short term for
a hook up? Are you looking for a short term partner,
a long term partner? Are you looking for a spouse?
What are you looking for? Because if you're dishonest, it's
(15:01):
just like you know you say you're five ten, one
hundred and thirty pounds and you walk in and you're actually,
you know, six feet and eighty What for me about
your height and weight? Right? Be honest about what you're
looking for in a partner. Why waste anyone's time? Why?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Why including your own? Because it's a waste. You'll probably
be sad because he's not gonna like it.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And then I think, what do you think about deciding
if you want a second date? What makes you decide
if you want a second date?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Chemistry? And do it lefter like I'm having fun, I'd
like to get to know you, and most of them
will say would you like to do this again?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And what do you say to most of them? If
I like them, I'm saying to most of them you
want a second date with no?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Definitely not.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I'm so afraid you would ask me that I had
to ask you first.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But then again, Kathy, I haven't really been out there
in the feud.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I haven't, but I will tell you. You know, getting
to know someone is not easy. I mean really, it's
because you know people.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
If there's a connection, it's so easy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are they nervous?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Me? Nervous?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Anybody? Do you think people could be nervous on a
first date?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I mean you can't. But I don't know how to
answer that because it's been around for so long.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I'm just saying, if you go out on a date
with something that you're really attracted to and then you
meet them and you're all, like, you know, hyped up.
I don't know. I just I just think the dating
people think. You get on a dating app and you
have all these guys. To me, the dating app is
just it's I hate the expression, the tip of the iceberg.
It's like, Okay, now you're on there, and now you
(16:48):
have to you have to call through all these guys
and the ones.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That don't you feel bad. It is like a job.
Like you said earlier, you get home and you have
all these messages and you don't want to be rude,
and you got to add, and then you get the
ones that it's like you're a pen pal for a
moth like ye, dude, I don't want to be your
pen pal.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I've got another PSA for you. Now. I think you're
going to describe me on the dating apps. I get
this all the time, and it just makes me want
to just go goodbye. X. You know, hi, Kathy, how
are you doing this evening? That's Okay, it's boring, but okay,
the next question, how long have you been on this site?
(17:27):
And what are you looking for? And I want to
write back, be the smartest, go what's it to you?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I mean, why, how long you've been on here?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's what I wrote that to one guy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, I get asked, what do you think of this
dating app?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I've never had that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I would kill to get off of it, get me
on here.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm just like, I don't know what the right answer is.
I've been on ten years, I've been on ten minutes. Like,
what do you want? Off?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And on?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's what I say, the truth on and off? And
then what you looking for? I want to say, I'm
looking for free tickets to the Ice Capades. Why do
you think I thought this app?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'm looking for my best friend? Yeah exactly, I'm I mean, see,
I want to be looking at their connection somebody.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I write that, but then I think they think it's like, oh,
she wants sex a sexual I don't know these people.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't connection of sex.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
No, I don't think it is. But I'm always trying
to think what are they thinking?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You overthink? Who cares what they're thinking? Just do you
it's enough. It is enough. It's like, then me get wait,
let's go down to now there's e harmony. You don't
get to see the picture. You fill out a form
that is like nine million questions long, and some of
them I can't even answer because it's like I just
(18:50):
but they match up personality Okay, and then they they.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Don't know what my personality Well, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
From seventeen hundred question questions. That's where they go.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You know what I'm telling you. You know what I
would write on that. I was really young when I
started this application, but you've aged me with the ten
thousand questions, so now I'm too old to date.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And that Okay. Hell now let's go down to the
paying ones. I've been on very expensive ones. They have
background checks, you you list your what you want. Okay,
yeah it was in the thousands. Okay, wait the first
date they have me go go on, did you finally
(19:35):
get the picture right before?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I go, are you excuse my friend? Don't kidding me?
I met that guy already on a free site. I
just paid three thousand dollars and that's the guys. Are
you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I was so mad?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Did you meet him now, I had already met him two.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Years prior, so then let me finish the That was
it three thousand dollars the second one.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
At that time, I wouldn't go out with anyone under
six foot. Now I'm shrinking, so it doesn't matter. But
I wanted six foot definitely, no children at home or
in school. I don't want to raise anybody's kids. I
don't want to help, like you know, if they're in
college or something. Okay, my next day and we went
(20:28):
to meet Okay, yeah, you're not ready. He had seven children,
the youngest being six, all at home, lived on a
farm in New Jersey, and was five foot nine. What
how did you did I pay you for this guy?
(20:49):
In the world. I didn't match they they did it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh it's one of those ideas. Yeah no, so let
me tell you I was. I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Was a nice, nice person. I stayed, I hung out
with them, and all you know, I shared. I was oos.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I hope you didn't need all your meal because he
needed the leftovers for the seven kids.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I couldn't believe you that many kids had lived on
a farm in Jersey and it was five. Why am
I paying?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
He's probably a shaker, you know what you know, no
no electricity kind of people. Friday night, the kid, get
out the candles. You don't drive a car till Monday.
Oh fabulous, Just.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like I want my money back.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I got approached. I'm not going to say the name
of a of a company now feature this. The guy
knew I was on the Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's why I don't want to go on.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, no, no, no, I didn't go on. It was they.
They called me and said, you know, it's a pay,
it's a pay, and it's a Let me just say
I enjoined their website, or I can buy myself a
nice diamond ring. I mean it's one or the other.
He said, uh. She said, he really wants to meet you,
and but you know, one of you has to pay
(22:12):
our very steep fee. And I basically said, well, I'm
not a cooker, so I'm not paying. You know, if
he wants to meet me, you can pay. But then
I started thinking, Susan on these websites. If he knew
I was on the Golden Bachelor, and he knew I
was from Texas, there's only one of me, right, there's
only one person from Texas. So what he couldn't find me.
(22:35):
I was like, maybe not smart. Yeah, no, I don't know.
I think those expensive websites are I think if you're
very high profile and you're you know, a Hollywood level person,
you don't want Tom Dick and Harry or Felman Louise,
you know, chasing you down. Then yeah, you can pay
for it, but I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I went on National TV to find love and still going.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, it's coming all right, So all in.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
All, once again I rejoined and I had just recently
in the last week, actually deleted the tender thing again.
It was like, what am I doing? What am I doing?
I did like it when I was away, because you
meet people where you're at that, Yeah, that workes. They
met a very interesting person in Saint Martin. As you know,
(23:25):
you don't speak the same language. That was difficult but
very charming.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Uh, and you met him on a dating Now listen, folks,
that'll be interesting to see where this one goes, because
you know, this guy Parley moved Francis and Susan struggles
with English. So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna
be a thing. But anyway, I think that The summary
of the apps for me is, you know, can't expect miracles.
(23:50):
You put your best foot out there if you decide
to join them. Don't do three or four. Pick one
or two. Take your time right, pick.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
One or two apps? Oh apps, I thought you meant people.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, pick rue or two apps. Take the best pictures
you can. Oh. The other thing is change your pictures frequently.
Do as I say, not as I going.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
To look stale from three years ago. You still have
the same pictures though, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Change your clothes, change your hair, change your pictures, and
then write the best bio you can. And then I
really do think you have to trust your gut, you know,
get to know them. Do we really have to talk
about safety dating? I guess we do, because all the
apps on there talk about, you know, don't get Oh
here's another little tidbit of advice.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
What's a red flag for you? Ken?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Hold on? Wait, let me just say, get a Google
phone number. I did that when I got on the apps.
You know why, friends, If you someone has your cell number,
they can find out anything about you, where you live, everything.
If you have a Google phone number, it's untraceable. And
you know what I give guys my Google phone number
(25:00):
when I first talked to them, And I always know
if it's a bad guy because he'll say, why didn't
you give me your real number? Why did you give
me a Google number? And I'll say, because I don't
know you and I want to be safe, and you
can't trace this number. So if I decide you're safe
and we go down the road. But I would recommend
that to everybody, especially but I didn't do it because
(25:21):
Susan likes to live on the edge. Yeah, yeah, too bad.
They have all your information, they know where you live.
They're knocking on your door. Can you hear them knock knock?
It's not that easy, is it that?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Today? Guess what? The whole world knows where we are?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, well, I think then why do you think they's.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The first red flag? Like if you like, my red
flag was somebody that doesn't ask me anything about me?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And do mean on a date or on the on
an app?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
What would be a red flag on an app? That
would be the picture that's where you go wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The pictures are the red flags for me.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, I am say, you're going to meet somebody's what's.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
If they come to the house if they come to
the restaurant or whatever and they're they're not gentlemen. I'm
telling you, I'm old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
If that somebody that doesn't treat the waitress, if you.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Do not teach as, if you treat a server, well
you're done. So I'm looking for that. I'm looking for polite.
I'm looking for fun. I'm looking for someone who enjoys
life laughing. But a red flag is somebody who just
talks about themselves or a deceased spouse, or criticizes people
(26:33):
or complains about their life. I mean, I want like you.
I'm basically a happy person. I want a happy person.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah yeah, so similar and like the things that I like. Yeah, well,
but it is difficult. I mean it's a first date
or first meet if you will, and you're trying to
share who you are and get to know who they
are an awe. For me, it all boils down to
is their chemistry. Chemistry speaks volumes, because there if there isn't.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Does that mean if they're what do you mean? Does
that mean? If they're if they're good kissers, what does
that mean? No?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Before the kiss? If you're enjoying them, you like something
about them, You want more. I usually know that within
a few minutes. Something charming about them that's good to me,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I cannot believe you said that. I'm not. I
can't believe you said that because for me, I hate
to admit that. Susan, I I suss it out pretty
quickly whether or not I'm interested. I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I told you, I know in two minutes.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Do you really though?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Can I call you on that?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
The guy you met in Saint Martin that when I
went with you, you turned around and said, I said
you he's cute. You went, I don't know. I don't
think I'm feeling it. That's what you said. Well you're
feeling it now.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That was the first two minutes. I didn't know. I
couldn't understand it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Wor he said, all right, listen, guys, this has been
feeling so much fun. Oh, she definitely films me.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
He's a great guy.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
He's a great gule. Susan is going to a prong
Francis learn from. I'm sure that she was Spanish to
be a little easier. It's they're both the same.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But they had answer like you saw, we had ear
pods in we're trying to communicate my phone, and I
remember like twenty five minutes thirty minutes in, I said,
you know where I come from. When you go to
meet somebody, you make eye contact. I couldn't even tell
you what color your eyes were. You started to live.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Let me just say to you guys out there, we
can't give up. We have to be positive. Go on
the apps, get out, get off the sofa. Try to
meet people organically. If you if you're dating on apps,
be yourself, because you know what when you meet the person,
they're going to see who you are anyway, So get
on the apps.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ghost people. I got ghosted last year. I guess it
was that was like and ghost It meanings stood up
in my.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Light. If you make a date, show up.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Us know.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We hope that this has helped you.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Somewhat in dating apps, especially Kathy. How about people that
have never gone on, like you know, the older generation.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
We gave them step by step how to.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Do it to Just call us. We'll walk you through it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I thought we just did spend the last hour walking
them through. Where were you? They're scared? Don't be scared.
Everybody listen, it's everyone is afraid going on a dating app.
Be safe, don't go to a private pace, go to
a public place, meet them for a drink. If nothing else,
you got out of the house for half an hour.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Don't let the house first time.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh Jesus, what Susan.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Don't let him in your heart, don't bring him over
your home. And for the first day.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did you really have to say that?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, yes, you don't pick up you know. But we
can go on for ever and ever on the subject.
And if you do want questions or advice about our comments,
please yeah, please let us know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Let's see, because we are still Susan half asked, but
we're still on the search, and we're just hoping that
everyone finds love because you know what, don't ever forget
every one of us deserves loves.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Were all absolutely and make sure submit your questions, give
us your comments. You know what to do Bachelor nation
dot com, slash Golden Hour or dm us on Instagram
at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And we've really enjoyed this and we hope that you
will listen to us on the iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts. Until next time, take care down
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Joe Amabile
Susan Noles
Serena Pitt
Kathy Swarts
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