June 3, 2025 • 35 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re catching up with our Golden lovebirds Joan and Chock! They have many fun updates for us and we’re diving into all of them. They tell us all about their journey apartment hunting in New York City, including when we can expect an exciting update from them. We also get the rundown on wedding planning and why they’ve put a pin in figuring out the big day for now! Plus, we get to hear all about their exciting new ventures, including Joan’s experience with Andy Cohen! We also get a glimpse into their philanthropic work, along with ways you can get involved. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batch your happy hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are here.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
With our two golden luffbirds, Joan and Chock. Welcome back
to Batcher Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you guys doing great? Thanks for having us
back too.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
To see you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Get to see you, Joan, what is that box behind you?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Got no idea?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I honestly I thought it was product.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, right now I have, I have my grandkids will
be with me right now, and my brother is in
my basement building a closet for me. So I'm up
in my bedroom.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Got Gosha. I need a little extra shoe room.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah yeah, oh cod winter codes.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Winter co.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Yeah, we have a storage unit for that stuff. Like
you're separate from you guys have New York.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You have to.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
We need a little extra space. We've outgrown this apartment. Chalk,
where you you're at home too.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm in Kansas, back in my office, just working away.
I get to see Joan on Thursday, so really excited
to have that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Chalk.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Are you an animal enthusiast? You've got all these photos
of animals behind you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That was a trip I've been to Africa a couple
of times. That was a trip in two thousand and
four and my son America going back in July.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh wow, that's the first trip.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So we're really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What are you most excited for?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Just to take him? He's always wanted to do it.
He graduated from high school in the in two thousand
and COVID prevented us from going at that point, so
he's out of college and we're gonna go do it.
We're going to have some fun.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Nice. That's a fun trip. I've never I mean, I've
never done a safari or anything like.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That, so it's got to be at some point.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think so. I would love to. I think I
don't know if you would like it as much?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Maybe, Joan, would you ever do something like that?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's like number one on my bucket list.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm telling you, yeah, it's just to be so amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But Chalk's been so many times like this is I
don't like his third or fourth trip, so I'm not
sure if he's going to want to go again. I
might to find somebody, you know what, Serena, you and
I can go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We'll go, I'll go it. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, it's like coming to the US. You know, they
think if they go to Chicago or New York they've
seen America. I mean, it's just so big and that
content is so much bigger than what we have here
in the United States North America. So there's a lot
to do. We're going to go to Zimbabwe, which is
kind of different, so it's going to be pretty rusting,
but we're looking forward to it. Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's fun. What so you guys are meeting up on Thursday?
How does that look? Who's going? Where? Where are you
guys going?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Joe, he's fine here, he's fine here. A friend of
mine has a beach house and she invited Chalk and
I with another couple, all couples that he has met.
So we're just going to spend the weekend in Ocean City,
New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh that's so nice. Well, it's supposed to be good. No,
not gros gonna say. It's supposed to rain in New
York this weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, it's supposed to be like kind of sixty and
not great. But we'll fun, like we'll play games and
you know, you.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Know what they last weekend or two weeks it was
supposed to rain like all weekend, and it rained overnight
every single time, and it was sunny all day.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So that's what I'm hoping for, you guys.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, I'm going to bring clothes and pretend it's going
to be sunny and just hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, throw on a sweater.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Joe and Serena, we're going to be in New York
in a couple of weeks. What do we need to do?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Oh, I mean it's going to be great weather hopefully.
June's always the best, so you should go.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I could be really hot though, Yeah, but the other
day it was like it was like, I think two
days ago it was like eighty, but it was like
a hot eighty like I was. I was walking down
the street. I was like, it's almost too hot out. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I mean, if you're going to do outdoor stuff like
we love Central Park obviously, and the West Side Highway
is a great walk too. On the water, you get
a little bit more of a breeze there, which is
so nice. And then also just like all the patios
in the West Village, they have so many cute like
wine bars and cocktail bars. You can just like sit
outside and have you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Been to Have you guys been to Williamsburg yet?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I've been a lot. He probably hasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh, you guys should go there.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, we're bring my mom who's ninety three, and my
aunt who's eighty six, who's coming here from Spain to visit.
So Chalk and I are ticket. They love to go
to Broadway shows, so we're gonna come up and see
a show. So if you can recommend a show that
would be great.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yes, apparently Outsiders. The Outsiders is amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I had some friends here that just went and saw.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That and they lookay good.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes. At one a bunch of Tony's and.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Sara Highland's in a play. I think she's did in
like the Great Gas, Great.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Gas, but I think she just wrapped Oh really Yeah,
but that's supposed to be amazing. Great Gatsby and Juliet.
It is supposed to be really fun. They're always promoting
that in Taxis. It's like all like modern day music.
It's like a modern take on Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Juliet. Yeah, I think I still do it.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah, I'm trying to think what else we've seen, Like
Book of Mormon obviously like all the classic yeahle museum.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Last time you guys are the last time we talked
to you guys, you were looking for an apartment in
New York. What is going on with that?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So most likely stay tuned. August September will make an announcement.
I'm a little frugal. I'm not going to deny that,
but we've been traveling so much so we just wanted
to put it on hold to make sure that when
we do get the place, we're going to be able
to use it. But August September, we'll make an announcement.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And what do you can you tell us what area
you're looking at?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Joan wants five bedrooms, a view of Central Park and
a door man and I'm thinking a studio about four
hundred square feet with a air fryer, so someplace in
between that, wouldn't you say, Honey, I.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Say closer to what Joan wants.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Now we're going. Now we're to live together and we're
going to support.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, I'll live in one of your five bedrooms and
we'll get out.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
In the you know, in the places to live in
New York City, there's just so many good ones. We've
looked at SOHO, but there's just not a lot of
available availability. I like the Upper west Side. We've looked
at some on the Upper east Side, Midtown, and I'm
just getting to know New York City, so we're going
to still continue to look.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, things come and go so faster.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I like the Upper west Side is Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
There's some really nice neighborhoods up there, and.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You can get space up there.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And it's also really hard if you're not living there
to be there enough to find a place, because you
could you'll miss a place if you're not there the
day it comes available, like sometimes it's gone by the
next day. So it's been a little difficult because we
have been a lot busier than I think we expected
that we would be, and so we haven't like been
up there. We thought we would be coming up and
(06:25):
seeing hotels and looking at places all the time. That
has been so untrue. We have been in a million
other places, but really not that much in New York.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, when Joe and I decided to move here, we
came in November, did like a browse, just knowing we
weren't going to pick anything, just kind of seeing what
we liked what was available, and.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Then we came in.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
March, right all to March, and we loved.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
We did one day looking in Brooklyn, one day looking
in Manhattan, and then the end of that day we
had like our maybe friends slash real estage. It was
like Jesus side now, like it's now where it's gone,
and which we were fine, we were prepared for.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We're like, great that one sign we moved in two
weeks later.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Wow, I know. So it's so rushed and I think
he lives in Kansas. I live in Maryland. I can
hop on a training get up there really quickly, but
I want him there to see it. I don't want
to make that myself totally.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
We had something interesting happened too, is we put an
offer in on a place and they would not lease
it to us unless we personally saw it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And we're like what we said we wanted, like or
Fielcher walked it for us and videoed it while she
was walking through it. We're like, perfect, we'll take it,
and they're like, no, they wouldn't ran into us.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Was it a co op?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
It wasn't a co op, but they had other offers
and they took somebody else's offer because.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
But that's such a weird, so weird, Like, what do
they think you were going to come see it and
change your mind? Maybe they've had that happen. But it's
like if you're saying, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You signed the lease and you put down a jack,
which they require, I mean, that would be a weird
thing to do, and like we're picky, but we're not
that picky. I felt confident by seeing I've seen enough
places that when she walked through it, I had an
idea since of what it was going to be like
and they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well, maybe it's the side. Maybe your dream place is
still out there.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, I hope, so we'll find it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So you guys have been busy, any busy with any
media work?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I think?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Were you guys both at the Hulu event.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Just me j New York? Weren't you, honey?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah? I was in New York. I was on Andy
Cohen watch What's Happening Live that night?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
How was that?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
That was fun? That was such an experience. You know,
it is live and it's Andy Cohen. So and there
were some uh, the two of the girls from the Valley,
which is like the hit show. These days, everybody's watching it,
so it was really fun. I got to be I
was the bartender, which was hilarious. And I was there
because I was the spokesperson this year for Pink Credic
(08:45):
Cancer Action Network. It was their their big event that
weekend and I was the ambassador for the event, so
they Andy Cohen has some kind of link to Pink
Credit Cancer. He never talked about it, really said what
I was doing there, but didn't really talk about the
cancer event. But I got to be on it, so
it was really fun. But I missed the Hulu event,
so I had huge fomo because I felt like I
(09:07):
knew so many people. There are lots of vaccination people
were there, but I missed it, you know, but it
was for a good reason.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yes, no, that is such a cool opportunity. Yeah, the
Hulu event did look fun. I had a little bit
of fomo too. We weren't able to make it either,
But Chock, how was it? Tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It was really fun, Serena. It was good to see
the guys from the show, from Jones show, but then
also to meet some people. Derek, you you know you
the dancer was nice. Everyone was so nice. Too, and
very the guys. We went out the night before, went
to the event, got to meet a lot of new people,
and it's just, you know, I have a Kansas point
that grew up on a farm. This is completely new
(09:43):
to me. And Jesse was there. Jesse's just such a
class act. Jesse just makes it feel like you're an
old friend. And I didn't get a chance to meet Mel,
but I did get a scene. He's a good looking guy.
I think he's going to do great.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, what do you guys think new Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He's got some riz and I think you need somebody
with it. I learned that word last year. I didn't can't.
I didn't know what that meant. But he's got confidence
and I think he'll do a good job. Social media
has been kind of beating him up, but they beat
everybody up.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And have they been beating him up? What are they say?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
A little bit? A little bit? So Mel, if if
you want some advice, call me, call me. But no,
I think he's going to do great. And it was
you know, I've got friends that were on the show,
and I was rooting for a number of them to
be the Golden Bachelor. But I'm just going to support
the decision and hopefully it's a great show and it's
very entertaining for everyone, and hopefully two people find love.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I think I haven't met him yet, but I think
he looks great on paper. I mean, he has quite
a it's like an interesting way if he was a
professional football player, he became a lawyer. He lives in
la He has a couple of kids. You know, it
doesn't look like he had a bad divorce. He doesn't,
you know, I haven't seen you know, I haven't seen
a lot on social media about him. I think on
paper he looks really good. I think, like you know,
(11:02):
he's a mi caan't and he's a handsome guy. He's
you know, in good shape, he's fit. I think that
there's gonna be a lot of women applying to be
on the show suddenly. I don't know what the applications
looked like before he was announced, but I bet they
have had a huge Objeck.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
We haven't had the chance to meet him or connected
with him yet either, but he does on paper, in photographs,
he looks like a very solid pick.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, I was surprised that it seemed like he was
a last minute pick, and that like looking at all
these circumstances, what he looks like, how handsome he is,
what his kind of resume looks like. That seems a
little weird that that was a last minute pick. I
can't imagine that when he came across their desk, they
wouldn't have been like, oh my gosh, this is a
(11:48):
guy I'm you know, I wonder about that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yeah, I feel like they always picked so last minute though.
I mean, I think it's a little different when like
it's someone coming off of a past season. But I know,
like even with like as we're at like they'll they'll
be looking at like three or four people no matter what,
just in case like something happens or someone means the
love of their life, and then like they make that call,
like right down to the wire.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, what do you guys? What do you guys think?
Anything you could tell us about Bachelor in Paradise?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, what have you heard? Share the secret? Share the.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I can't tell what I know, but oh my gosh,
it is you know, I was, you know, I feel
like it's gonna have great viewership because everybody is wondering
what the heck is going on with the Goldens and
the youngs together at the same paradise, knowing what we
know about paradise just from you guys usual, you know,
(12:51):
the young people having done it for so many years,
and it's a bunch of people walking around with like
great bodies in like skimpy bathing suits. It's hot and
sweat not something that the Goldens would normally like. I
also wonder even about the Goldens matching up because I
know that the women coming off of Gary season were
way older than the men that came off my season.
(13:13):
On the young side, I was the youngest on Gary season,
so they picked younger guys for me. So I wonder
how that even you know, matchmaking is you know, is going.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, that's a good point, actually, I kind of forgot
about that.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Like that the women who are gearing more towards their
seventies and your men are gearing more towards their sixties.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, So, Serena, I read that there's some partying going
on with the Goldens down there, party and the young people,
and that's got to be my man, Keith.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Does Keith have good like party Samurai?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
He can go all night, incredible, incredible diet. I don't
know if he's there, but when they said the Golden's
at party, and I'm going, that might just be Keith.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Keith, they're talking about him if they're is there a
potential match if you if both of you were were
betting people and you're like, okay, there's I think this
is going to be the couple that would make it
out of there.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Who would you choose? Now, granted we don't know who's there,
but from both casts, if you were going to pick a.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Couple, well, we know Leslie's there and who I really like.
I like a lot of them, but I think Nancy's
a catch or whomever. I think she would be a
good person. Leslie. I did see that Susan's not going,
you know, that was made public that she has affair.
And the guys that I know, it was interesting. A
(14:36):
lot of them are in relationships and those come and go,
so you know, we know Gary was going, Leslie and
then the young guys and I, you know, I just
wish them all luck. And I had a couple of
guys called me and they go, would you go on
the show? And I go, if I was single, absolutely,
I'd go have fun, you know, enjoy it, and it's
a whole new mixture with the youngs and the golden
(14:58):
so Go experiment. Life worthful.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, I would love I don't know who's there. I
would love to have seen Greg down there and Dan.
I think both of those are great catches. You know,
there's so many of the guys from my season that
were really good catches. Well, all the guys I actually
think were pretty amazing people, but so many of them
paired up. I think it was so interesting to see
(15:23):
how that happened. I feel like there's some sociological experiment
that they maybe went to the mansion and although like
we didn't end up being love matches, they like somehow
the door opened up for them or something locked in
their brains and they came off the show, and so
many of them paired up, like to major relationships, you know,
in love done, you know, found their life person so
(15:47):
soon after being on the show, which you know, obviously
they were not her broken about me, all right, I'm
good with that. I'm happy about that actually, but that
they you know, were opened up, you know, kind of
opened up in a weird because you know, many of
them had not had relationships in years, so they came
off the show and fell in love, which I think
(16:07):
maybe have may have limited Paradise a little bit for
the Goldens, because I don't think there were as many
guys that would have been really good in Paradise, but
they were already you know, they already had their love.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I do think there is something about the show that, like,
especially for these men who like have maybe been closed
off to finding love for so long, and then you
go and you allow yourself to be vulnerable, and it
takes some of that fear away from dating and moving
on and finding new love in your life. And I
feel like they leave it with like so much more
of an open heart, and it attracts that it ends
(16:42):
up working out.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, so many of them, and
I would love to know who's there because I do
feel like there could be some matches in the making,
But I don't know who's there, So it's hard.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
But do you think because we know that Leslie's there, Yeah,
and we know that you had kind of connected Jordan
from our season from Chicago and Leslie, you know, proximity
age and all seemed to be a bit of a fit.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
When we had her on the podcast She's it seemed
like there was like definitely some romantic interest there and
it kind of ended up falling into a bit more
of like a friend category.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
If they're both down there, do you think there's potential
for a spark to form.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I think it already that ship sailed. I think they
met each other, they had some conversations. They you know,
they lived close enough together that I think they could
have gotten together if they had wanted to, and if
they would want to pursue, you know, to pursue this.
So I don't think it was a love It was
the best match I felt like I had in my
head coming off my season. That was the one I
(17:45):
called Leslie and I said, I had the guy for you.
I can't tell you who he is because he's still
on the show, like you know, it's still airing and
he's still on the show, but when he comes off,
I'm setting you guys up. And I did, and it
didn't work out. So I was really disappointed by that
one because that was like the best love match I
had in my mind.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, no, on paper, it totally makes sense, and even
like kind of knowing them both.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I was like, oh, maybe something.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Here, but well they was like super athletic, very active.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, adventures, I mean the kind.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Of had the connection on religion. There were so many
great connections. I was actually surprised. But sometimes, like people
that are really similar donor tracks, sometimes it's the opposites.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, definitely, And I feel like that's also the fun
of Paradise. You know, sometimes the people that you think
going in are going to immediately head it off don't
have a connection at all, and it surprises you who
they connect with.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I actually feel like the people in Paradise, I feel
like those relationships sometimes work better than the ones from
the show, like from the regular Backslor show, because they
have more time just to have more downtime. They have
more time just to like interact organically as opposed to
a cand date.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So I got to tell you, I'd love to see
Charles out there. I would love to see him on
the beach. I don't know if he's going, I don't
know what he thing, but he would be so fun
to watch in America wants to see the guy again.
Everyone's everyone every When I talked to what's going about
with Charles L where's he do? You know, where's he
at disappeared?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I wonder if his hair is still black, he told Diet,
and he's aging backwards.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So that's like, that's one of those things that people's
personality changed so much for him, you know, that was
like so life changing for Charles l I thought it
was going to carry out into real life. You know,
sometimes a lot of people there on the show go
back to their you know, real life and they you know,
(19:37):
nothing really comes from them being on the show, and
then they had this great experience. I thought Charles was
going to kind of stay with us. We would we
were going to be seeing him a little bit more.
I'm a little surprised that he's kind of faded back
into his old life.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, see, well you never know, maybe he'll pop up
on the beach and he'll be back at it again.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe a ponytail and yeah, la oh, we saw that.
We saw that.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
You guys put wedding plans on hold for now. Can
we get into that a little bits.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Okay, I think I'm the spokesperson on this one, you know.
You know, I said, we've been super busy, but that's
really not the whole thing. You know, you guys understand
this because you've been on the show before. You know,
you date kind of in a weird backwards way. You
go and you date really intensely and you take this
leap of faith and you get engaged, and then you
come off the show and then you get to know
(20:35):
each other, you know, in those everyday mundane ways that
you haven't done yet. You've done the big stuff, you
haven't done the little stuff. So we're kind of doing that.
And and I'm not saying that that's the reason we
haven't made wedding plans. It's just we're having fun doing that,
and you know, we're going to make wedding plans. It
just doesn't seem like it's a rush. We don't have
like a biological clock. And it also seems to me
(20:57):
a little bit when you get married, you're probably should
be living together at that point, and we still have
a little bit of time that we need to be apart.
Chuckshaw has a business. You know, we're both really still
kind of busy, and we're having fun meeting, like we
see each other about every two weeks, and those interactions
are really still very fun.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
The absence makes the heart grow funder is a little
bit true. I'm like I, you know, I'm jumping out
of the car, like, you know, so excited to see
him when he comes into town, or the same thing
when I go to Kansas. So it doesn't seem like
there's a rush to get married. It seems like it
would maybe put a strain on our relationship at this
point because we're both really busy and it's working out
(21:39):
really well the way we're doing it now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We do have a little test coming up over July fourth.
We'll be together for two weeks solid.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Is that the longest amount of time you guys will
have spent together. Yes, okay, hopefully you don't get sick
of each other.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
When we're together, the longer we're together, the more comfortable
will we get. And so I feel like at the
end of those two weeks it's going to be hard
to actually leave each other.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Do you guys have any other trips planned together over
the summer?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
We have New York and then that's the middle of June,
and then the two weeks back in Maryland, and then
Joan and I haven't told you, but we're working on
a potential reunion with all the guys in the Why
in Vegas. We've worked on that for the past two
days and then the guys today were texting me going,
Jones got to come, So I don't you know, we'll
(22:32):
have to talk about our schedule. We're usually about three
months out with our schedule, but with the summer, we're
just kind of piecing it together. But we try to
spend some time in New York as well.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And well, he's on the Safari with his son, which
is the first week in August. I'm going to be
on a cruise in the Mediterranean with Nancy from go
to Maxer.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Oh, it's gonna be so much at Oh that's amazing. Well,
you go to this reunion in Vegas. I feel like
you got to bring a girlfriend or something unless you're
down to me with all the boys.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Well, you know, they're all my old boyfriends, so I know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah. The good thing is I'm not a jealous guy.
But if we put it together, it will be a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Oh my god, what are you guys thinking you want
to do in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well, and honey, I have to tell you. I mean,
this is almost everyone that was on the show. Everyone's
going to get in live.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Well, Oh my gosh, I think Charles l would have
a good time in Vegas. He's probably never been.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Well a couple of guys go. I hope Joan remembers
me because she only spent ten minutes with me before
she takes me off the show.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, you know how hard that it's like the first
night is you guys know, like some people you hardly
have to spend any time with them, then they're gone forever.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Hopefully you know you don't meet one of those guys
and be like, damn, I made a huge mistake.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Chip, If a couple does come out, a golden couple
does come out of Paradise, what after show advice would
(24:17):
you give them?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You have a thought, Chuck.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I don't know if this is cliche, but just live
your life. You know you're in the public eye a
little bit or maybe a lot, But just live your life.
Do what you want to do, and some opportunities will
come your way. But do what you think is right,
what you're comfortable with, and spend as much time as
you can together. But then get to know the person.
Because Joan and I have been very authentic on this
(24:42):
is it was quick. It was fast, the attraction was there.
We knew we were going to be a good fit.
But as she said earlier, Jone said earlier, we're just
now still getting to know each other. And even if
we were married, you know, had just a flash of
the pan marriage that first year. You're still learning about
the person, their family, what they like, what they don't like,
you know, just the whole thing. So just take it
(25:04):
slow and enjoy life.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, I would feel like, you know, you are suddenly
in the limelight a little more so when you're contestant,
you're one of many. When you come out as a couple,
people are very interested. They've invested in this journey, they've
watched you fall in love. They want to know more
about you. So, like, I think you have to respect
that you have. You know, you have introduced them to
this relationship and it's not very nice to leave them
(25:28):
at the curb at this point, So you do have to.
I feel like you owe it to the people that
have watched the show to you know, at least give
them updates on how you guys are doing. But I
don't think that needs to be the main part of
your relationship, and I do think that happens sometimes. I
look at some bachelor couples and they're all about being
out and you know, doing Instagram and you know, being
(25:49):
on shows. I think that needs to be a part
of it. But I think the bigger part of it
has to be you and the two of you really,
you know, learning about each other and seeing each other
how you live, because how you live is important, especially
as Golden's you have a very established life. You're not
you know, saying no, I'm going to get up and
move to where you live. You're going to give up
a move where I live. You know, you have families,
(26:09):
you have friends, you have jobs, you have lives that
you really established, so figuring it out it is a
little bit harder.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Definitely. Yeah, that makes sense. So overall, right now, the
plan for you guys would be hopefully to move in
together at some point and then and then marriage.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think we're you know, I would say
in the next eighteen months will be in that that place.
But we're not rushing it. There's no reason to, and
we want to make sure we do it right. We
want to make sure that you know, everything is settled
for chalk with his you know, with his business, and
you know that that has a little ways to go,
and so you know, there's no huge rush, and we
want to do it right, you know, real we're building
(26:51):
a big future, and you know you can't rush.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It, especially not a five bedroom apartment in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Can't rush that.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
July have psychologically get there because I have a hamper.
But for some reason, my clothes don't make it to
the hamper. And when I'm with Joe, they need to
make it to the hamper. So my life, my lifestyle
is going to change a little bit.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
So the hamper right next to the vad as accessible as.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, it needs to be right in his face.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And then everyone in what you tel knows the story
about my socks or everybody in the United States knows
about my socks collection. But then the latest thing was
is I've never had salt in my house. And honey,
I heard all about that the last few days. All
the ladies were laughing and going, I can't believe you
didn't have any salt whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You didn't have any salt. He didn't have any mixing bowls.
I was trying to cook something. We were going to
a friend of his house and I said, oh, I'll
bring dessert, and I went to find stuff. There was nothing.
He has no like mixing things. She doesn't have a
bowl to put like batter in.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
There was.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I take it, you're not really a cook chalk.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Actually I am. But it's all protein.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You're salt, but you don't seal. You don't salt anything
your steak.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is it like a health thing or just an indifference?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It started with a health thing, and then I'm a
little different, like I haven't had cable TV for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm Catholic, and they were. It was in the process
of the pope being selected, and it was driving me crazy.
I couldn't watch the news. I really wanted to see
this whole thing. We were at a at a Vietnamese restaurant.
They had a TV on and I saw that the
pope had been selected because he has no cable.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
No, all right, so we need cable, we need mixing balls,
we need a.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Laundry hamble yes, salt, salt.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
When I first went to Joe's place in Chicago, he
had like two bowls, two plates.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Last myself, I was like, we.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Need to go to Target and then talked to the
cutest thing. He bought me a mug, so I had
my own mug and it was really really cute, and
I go, so I'm there. The last time I get
up in the morning, I'm like, I'm to make my
coffee and I look in the cabinet. I can't find
my damn mug. He's taken it to his office. So
he told my mug.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He liked it. He was like, ah, it's pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
It was a really nice mug.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Before before we let you guys go, any we talked
about trips, any projects coming up?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You want to talk about plug anything like that.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
How about you, Chuck.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I will tell you I had something unique cap in
last week. And I'm kind of a tough guy that
has just a little sensitive side. But what's a top
Medical It's a nonprofit organization for people who have been
assaulted in victims. And I've heard about you know, I've
heard about it. They're actually a client of mine. But
I went and met with the board of directors and viewed,
(29:48):
had a tour of their facility. Absolutely incredible. And I'm
a guy that, you know, everyone knows what nine to
one one is. I didn't know what two to one
one is, and that's for assault victims to call in
to get count lean and those type of things. But
this group offers a medical facility if somebody does not
want to go to the hospital, they want complete privacy.
(30:09):
And it was just it was incredible and it's just
a very small nonprofit. They run on a shoestring budget,
and it just made me feel good about humanity. And
the board of directors they were all people that were
connected to it in one way or another, Catholic charities,
they had a prosecutor, they had a detective, all females
from the local police department, and it was just really good.
It made you feel good about humanity and people doing
(30:31):
good for other people in a bad situation. So that's
a little bit of what the platform gives you is
it gives you exposure to the stuff. And I'm at
a point where if I do anything on a platform
I wanted to, you can't. You're not always going to
be perfect, but you want it to mean something for
someone educational or just say hey, here's this group. And
at first I was like, you know, I didn't want
(30:53):
to push for people to donate, but I'm going just
what a fantastic group and they what they need is
supplies and a little bit of money for their facility,
but that's it. Everyone that volunteers there does not take
a salary. So just a very great, great two hours
that I had last week.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Can you say the name of the facility one more
time in case people want to look it up for don't.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's Wichita Medical and it's a forensic facility. And my
mother was a forensic pathologist, so she dealt with end
of life that type of thing. And that's what I
go explained to me, the forensic but it's scientific of
going in to say, you know, who's the perpetrator all
that stuff, and it really protects it. It's not only
(31:34):
for women, but it protects people's rights and gives them advocacy.
It gives them access to people that deal with this
for a living, that care about it, that can help
these people through these situations.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It's amazing. You know, those organizations exist all over the place.
So because women that are abused are afraid a lot
of them because their abusers will come find them. So
the fact that they make an effort to make or
that this is secretive and they feel safe is really
important because otherwise they won't come forward. So that's an
amazing network. And I'm doing a couple of things. I
(32:08):
think both of us feel very privileged that, you know,
at this age in life, we have a little bit
of a platform that people like at least we have
maybe some followers, or we get to be on a
show like this and talk about, you know, some special projects.
So I'm doing the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network and that
was you know what I talk about because I was
on Andy Cohen. But that's a big, big, big charity,
(32:28):
and it's what my husband died from, pay credic cancer
and it's on track to be the second leading cause
of cancer related deaths in the United States. So that
scares you. It should, because it was a cancer that
we never heard about before, and all of a sudden
there's a huge uptake in it and there's no test
to detect it, and there are very few treatment options.
So if anybody wants to give, that's an amazing organization
(32:51):
to give to. And I'm also going tomorrow night to
do a local charity called Comfort Cases. A guy who
had been part of the foster care system, just like
my mother had been, and a lot of people we
probably all know have been part of that system. Started
a company or started a phill on topic organization, a
(33:12):
nonprofit that gives people going into foster care comfort pack.
So at their backpacks and they take they have toiletries
and pajamas and you know, for the younger ones, a
little a stuffed animal, for the older ones, you know,
some other things. But he gives them something. So when
they go to these places sometimes they have nothing. They've
been taken out of a home because it's an emergency
and they have nothing. So they Last year he provided
(33:35):
two hundred and fifty thousand of them, so to organizations
across the United States. All you have to do is
go on the website and say what I need, like
how many you need, if you need ten, if you
need twenty. A lot of a lot of people in
the legal system and in the you know, in like
that works with kids access these through this organization. So
(33:58):
he will send them to anybody re charge. So I'm
going to be there tomorrow night stuffing packs with a
bunch of my friends.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I love hearing the different organizations that you guys are
involved with.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And if anyone is looking to support.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
There's two two awesome charities and organizations right there that
you can take fred in.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, Joe, I have a question for you.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You've been working out. You kind of got the gun
show going pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
No, I think it's just the way I mean, I
do work out, But I think it's but I appreciate.
I think I think that's the perfect way to end
this podcast. Thank you guys so much for coming on
and taking the time.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Really, we really, it's always a pleasure. Joe, I'll see
you Thursday.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Bye to all our listeners. Thank you guys so much
for tuning in the Better Happy Hour. Make sure you
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Speaker 5 (34:51):
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Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batch your happy hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are here.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
With our two golden luffbirds, Joan and Chock. Welcome back
to Batcher Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you guys doing great? Thanks for having us
back too.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
To see you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Get to see you, Joan, what is that box behind you?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Got no idea?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I honestly I thought it was product.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, right now I have, I have my grandkids will
be with me right now, and my brother is in
my basement building a closet for me. So I'm up
in my bedroom.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Got Gosha. I need a little extra shoe room.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah yeah, oh cod winter codes.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Winter co.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Yeah, we have a storage unit for that stuff. Like
you're separate from you guys have New York.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You have to.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
We need a little extra space. We've outgrown this apartment. Chalk,
where you you're at home too.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm in Kansas, back in my office, just working away.
I get to see Joan on Thursday, so really excited
to have that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Chalk.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Are you an animal enthusiast? You've got all these photos
of animals behind you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That was a trip I've been to Africa a couple
of times. That was a trip in two thousand and
four and my son America going back in July.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh wow, that's the first trip.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So we're really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What are you most excited for?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Just to take him? He's always wanted to do it.
He graduated from high school in the in two thousand
and COVID prevented us from going at that point, so
he's out of college and we're gonna go do it.
We're going to have some fun.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Nice. That's a fun trip. I've never I mean, I've
never done a safari or anything like.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That, so it's got to be at some point.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think so. I would love to. I think I
don't know if you would like it as much?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Maybe, Joan, would you ever do something like that?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's like number one on my bucket list.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm telling you, yeah, it's just to be so amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But Chalk's been so many times like this is I
don't like his third or fourth trip, so I'm not
sure if he's going to want to go again. I
might to find somebody, you know what, Serena, you and
I can go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We'll go, I'll go it. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, it's like coming to the US. You know, they
think if they go to Chicago or New York they've
seen America. I mean, it's just so big and that
content is so much bigger than what we have here
in the United States North America. So there's a lot
to do. We're going to go to Zimbabwe, which is
kind of different, so it's going to be pretty rusting,
but we're looking forward to it. Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's fun. What so you guys are meeting up on Thursday?
How does that look? Who's going? Where? Where are you
guys going?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Joe, he's fine here, he's fine here. A friend of
mine has a beach house and she invited Chalk and
I with another couple, all couples that he has met.
So we're just going to spend the weekend in Ocean City,
New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh that's so nice. Well, it's supposed to be good. No,
not gros gonna say. It's supposed to rain in New
York this weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, it's supposed to be like kind of sixty and
not great. But we'll fun, like we'll play games and
you know, you.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Know what they last weekend or two weeks it was
supposed to rain like all weekend, and it rained overnight
every single time, and it was sunny all day.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So that's what I'm hoping for, you guys.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, I'm going to bring clothes and pretend it's going
to be sunny and just hope for the best.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, throw on a sweater.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Joe and Serena, we're going to be in New York
in a couple of weeks. What do we need to do?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Oh, I mean it's going to be great weather hopefully.
June's always the best, so you should go.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I could be really hot though, Yeah, but the other
day it was like it was like, I think two
days ago it was like eighty, but it was like
a hot eighty like I was. I was walking down
the street. I was like, it's almost too hot out. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I mean, if you're going to do outdoor stuff like
we love Central Park obviously, and the West Side Highway
is a great walk too. On the water, you get
a little bit more of a breeze there, which is
so nice. And then also just like all the patios
in the West Village, they have so many cute like
wine bars and cocktail bars. You can just like sit
outside and have you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Been to Have you guys been to Williamsburg yet?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I've been a lot. He probably hasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh, you guys should go there.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, we're bring my mom who's ninety three, and my
aunt who's eighty six, who's coming here from Spain to visit.
So Chalk and I are ticket. They love to go
to Broadway shows, so we're gonna come up and see
a show. So if you can recommend a show that
would be great.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yes, apparently Outsiders. The Outsiders is amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I had some friends here that just went and saw.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That and they lookay good.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes. At one a bunch of Tony's and.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Sara Highland's in a play. I think she's did in
like the Great Gas, Great.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Gas, but I think she just wrapped Oh really Yeah,
but that's supposed to be amazing. Great Gatsby and Juliet.
It is supposed to be really fun. They're always promoting
that in Taxis. It's like all like modern day music.
It's like a modern take on Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Juliet. Yeah, I think I still do it.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah, I'm trying to think what else we've seen, Like
Book of Mormon obviously like all the classic yeahle museum.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Last time you guys are the last time we talked
to you guys, you were looking for an apartment in
New York. What is going on with that?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So most likely stay tuned. August September will make an announcement.
I'm a little frugal. I'm not going to deny that,
but we've been traveling so much so we just wanted
to put it on hold to make sure that when
we do get the place, we're going to be able
to use it. But August September, we'll make an announcement.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And what do you can you tell us what area
you're looking at?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Joan wants five bedrooms, a view of Central Park and
a door man and I'm thinking a studio about four
hundred square feet with a air fryer, so someplace in
between that, wouldn't you say, Honey, I.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Say closer to what Joan wants.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Now we're going. Now we're to live together and we're
going to support.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, I'll live in one of your five bedrooms and
we'll get out.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
In the you know, in the places to live in
New York City, there's just so many good ones. We've
looked at SOHO, but there's just not a lot of
available availability. I like the Upper west Side. We've looked
at some on the Upper east Side, Midtown, and I'm
just getting to know New York City, so we're going
to still continue to look.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, things come and go so faster.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I like the Upper west Side is Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
There's some really nice neighborhoods up there, and.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You can get space up there.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And it's also really hard if you're not living there
to be there enough to find a place, because you
could you'll miss a place if you're not there the
day it comes available, like sometimes it's gone by the
next day. So it's been a little difficult because we
have been a lot busier than I think we expected
that we would be, and so we haven't like been
up there. We thought we would be coming up and
(06:25):
seeing hotels and looking at places all the time. That
has been so untrue. We have been in a million
other places, but really not that much in New York.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, when Joe and I decided to move here, we
came in November, did like a browse, just knowing we
weren't going to pick anything, just kind of seeing what
we liked what was available, and.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Then we came in.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
March, right all to March, and we loved.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
We did one day looking in Brooklyn, one day looking
in Manhattan, and then the end of that day we
had like our maybe friends slash real estage. It was
like Jesus side now, like it's now where it's gone,
and which we were fine, we were prepared for.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We're like, great that one sign we moved in two
weeks later.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Wow, I know. So it's so rushed and I think
he lives in Kansas. I live in Maryland. I can
hop on a training get up there really quickly, but
I want him there to see it. I don't want
to make that myself totally.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
We had something interesting happened too, is we put an
offer in on a place and they would not lease
it to us unless we personally saw it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And we're like what we said we wanted, like or
Fielcher walked it for us and videoed it while she
was walking through it. We're like, perfect, we'll take it,
and they're like, no, they wouldn't ran into us.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Was it a co op?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
It wasn't a co op, but they had other offers
and they took somebody else's offer because.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
But that's such a weird, so weird, Like, what do
they think you were going to come see it and
change your mind? Maybe they've had that happen. But it's
like if you're saying, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You signed the lease and you put down a jack,
which they require, I mean, that would be a weird
thing to do, and like we're picky, but we're not
that picky. I felt confident by seeing I've seen enough
places that when she walked through it, I had an
idea since of what it was going to be like
and they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well, maybe it's the side. Maybe your dream place is
still out there.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, I hope, so we'll find it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So you guys have been busy, any busy with any
media work?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I think?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Were you guys both at the Hulu event.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Just me j New York? Weren't you, honey?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah? I was in New York. I was on Andy
Cohen watch What's Happening Live that night?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
How was that?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
That was fun? That was such an experience. You know,
it is live and it's Andy Cohen. So and there
were some uh, the two of the girls from the Valley,
which is like the hit show. These days, everybody's watching it,
so it was really fun. I got to be I
was the bartender, which was hilarious. And I was there
because I was the spokesperson this year for Pink Credic
(08:45):
Cancer Action Network. It was their their big event that
weekend and I was the ambassador for the event, so
they Andy Cohen has some kind of link to Pink
Credit Cancer. He never talked about it, really said what
I was doing there, but didn't really talk about the
cancer event. But I got to be on it, so
it was really fun. But I missed the Hulu event,
so I had huge fomo because I felt like I
(09:07):
knew so many people. There are lots of vaccination people
were there, but I missed it, you know, but it
was for a good reason.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yes, no, that is such a cool opportunity. Yeah, the
Hulu event did look fun. I had a little bit
of fomo too. We weren't able to make it either,
But Chock, how was it? Tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It was really fun, Serena. It was good to see
the guys from the show, from Jones show, but then
also to meet some people. Derek, you you know you
the dancer was nice. Everyone was so nice. Too, and
very the guys. We went out the night before, went
to the event, got to meet a lot of new people,
and it's just, you know, I have a Kansas point
that grew up on a farm. This is completely new
(09:43):
to me. And Jesse was there. Jesse's just such a
class act. Jesse just makes it feel like you're an
old friend. And I didn't get a chance to meet Mel,
but I did get a scene. He's a good looking guy.
I think he's going to do great.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, what do you guys think new Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He's got some riz and I think you need somebody
with it. I learned that word last year. I didn't can't.
I didn't know what that meant. But he's got confidence
and I think he'll do a good job. Social media
has been kind of beating him up, but they beat
everybody up.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And have they been beating him up? What are they say?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
A little bit? A little bit? So Mel, if if
you want some advice, call me, call me. But no,
I think he's going to do great. And it was
you know, I've got friends that were on the show,
and I was rooting for a number of them to
be the Golden Bachelor. But I'm just going to support
the decision and hopefully it's a great show and it's
very entertaining for everyone, and hopefully two people find love.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I think I haven't met him yet, but I think
he looks great on paper. I mean, he has quite
a it's like an interesting way if he was a
professional football player, he became a lawyer. He lives in
la He has a couple of kids. You know, it
doesn't look like he had a bad divorce. He doesn't,
you know, I haven't seen you know, I haven't seen
a lot on social media about him. I think on
paper he looks really good. I think, like you know,
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he's a mi caan't and he's a handsome guy. He's
you know, in good shape, he's fit. I think that
there's gonna be a lot of women applying to be
on the show suddenly. I don't know what the applications
looked like before he was announced, but I bet they
have had a huge Objeck.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
We haven't had the chance to meet him or connected
with him yet either, but he does on paper, in photographs,
he looks like a very solid pick.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, I was surprised that it seemed like he was
a last minute pick, and that like looking at all
these circumstances, what he looks like, how handsome he is,
what his kind of resume looks like. That seems a
little weird that that was a last minute pick. I
can't imagine that when he came across their desk, they
wouldn't have been like, oh my gosh, this is a
(11:48):
guy I'm you know, I wonder about that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yeah, I feel like they always picked so last minute though.
I mean, I think it's a little different when like
it's someone coming off of a past season. But I know,
like even with like as we're at like they'll they'll
be looking at like three or four people no matter what,
just in case like something happens or someone means the
love of their life, and then like they make that call,
like right down to the wire.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, what do you guys? What do you guys think?
Anything you could tell us about Bachelor in Paradise?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, what have you heard? Share the secret? Share the.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I can't tell what I know, but oh my gosh,
it is you know, I was, you know, I feel
like it's gonna have great viewership because everybody is wondering
what the heck is going on with the Goldens and
the youngs together at the same paradise, knowing what we
know about paradise just from you guys usual, you know,
(12:51):
the young people having done it for so many years,
and it's a bunch of people walking around with like
great bodies in like skimpy bathing suits. It's hot and
sweat not something that the Goldens would normally like. I
also wonder even about the Goldens matching up because I
know that the women coming off of Gary season were
way older than the men that came off my season.
(13:13):
On the young side, I was the youngest on Gary season,
so they picked younger guys for me. So I wonder
how that even you know, matchmaking is you know, is going.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, that's a good point, actually, I kind of forgot
about that.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Like that the women who are gearing more towards their
seventies and your men are gearing more towards their sixties.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, So, Serena, I read that there's some partying going
on with the Goldens down there, party and the young people,
and that's got to be my man, Keith.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Does Keith have good like party Samurai?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
He can go all night, incredible, incredible diet. I don't
know if he's there, but when they said the Golden's
at party, and I'm going, that might just be Keith.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Keith, they're talking about him if they're is there a
potential match if you if both of you were were
betting people and you're like, okay, there's I think this
is going to be the couple that would make it
out of there.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Who would you choose? Now, granted we don't know who's there,
but from both casts, if you were going to pick a.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Couple, well, we know Leslie's there and who I really like.
I like a lot of them, but I think Nancy's
a catch or whomever. I think she would be a
good person. Leslie. I did see that Susan's not going,
you know, that was made public that she has affair.
And the guys that I know, it was interesting. A
(14:36):
lot of them are in relationships and those come and go,
so you know, we know Gary was going, Leslie and
then the young guys and I, you know, I just
wish them all luck. And I had a couple of
guys called me and they go, would you go on
the show? And I go, if I was single, absolutely,
I'd go have fun, you know, enjoy it, and it's
a whole new mixture with the youngs and the golden
(14:58):
so Go experiment. Life worthful.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, I would love I don't know who's there. I
would love to have seen Greg down there and Dan.
I think both of those are great catches. You know,
there's so many of the guys from my season that
were really good catches. Well, all the guys I actually
think were pretty amazing people, but so many of them
paired up. I think it was so interesting to see
(15:23):
how that happened. I feel like there's some sociological experiment
that they maybe went to the mansion and although like
we didn't end up being love matches, they like somehow
the door opened up for them or something locked in
their brains and they came off the show, and so
many of them paired up, like to major relationships, you know,
in love done, you know, found their life person so
(15:47):
soon after being on the show, which you know, obviously
they were not her broken about me, all right, I'm
good with that. I'm happy about that actually, but that
they you know, were opened up, you know, kind of
opened up in a weird because you know, many of
them had not had relationships in years, so they came
off the show and fell in love, which I think
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maybe have may have limited Paradise a little bit for
the Goldens, because I don't think there were as many
guys that would have been really good in Paradise, but
they were already you know, they already had their love.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I do think there is something about the show that, like,
especially for these men who like have maybe been closed
off to finding love for so long, and then you
go and you allow yourself to be vulnerable, and it
takes some of that fear away from dating and moving
on and finding new love in your life. And I
feel like they leave it with like so much more
of an open heart, and it attracts that it ends
(16:42):
up working out.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, so many of them, and
I would love to know who's there because I do
feel like there could be some matches in the making,
But I don't know who's there, So it's hard.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
But do you think because we know that Leslie's there, Yeah,
and we know that you had kind of connected Jordan
from our season from Chicago and Leslie, you know, proximity
age and all seemed to be a bit of a fit.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
When we had her on the podcast She's it seemed
like there was like definitely some romantic interest there and
it kind of ended up falling into a bit more
of like a friend category.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
If they're both down there, do you think there's potential
for a spark to form.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I think it already that ship sailed. I think they
met each other, they had some conversations. They you know,
they lived close enough together that I think they could
have gotten together if they had wanted to, and if
they would want to pursue, you know, to pursue this.
So I don't think it was a love It was
the best match I felt like I had in my
head coming off my season. That was the one I
(17:45):
called Leslie and I said, I had the guy for you.
I can't tell you who he is because he's still
on the show, like you know, it's still airing and
he's still on the show, but when he comes off,
I'm setting you guys up. And I did, and it
didn't work out. So I was really disappointed by that
one because that was like the best love match I
had in my mind.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, no, on paper, it totally makes sense, and even
like kind of knowing them both.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I was like, oh, maybe something.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Here, but well they was like super athletic, very active.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, adventures, I mean the kind.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Of had the connection on religion. There were so many
great connections. I was actually surprised. But sometimes, like people
that are really similar donor tracks, sometimes it's the opposites.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, definitely, And I feel like that's also the fun
of Paradise. You know, sometimes the people that you think
going in are going to immediately head it off don't
have a connection at all, and it surprises you who
they connect with.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I actually feel like the people in Paradise, I feel
like those relationships sometimes work better than the ones from
the show, like from the regular Backslor show, because they
have more time just to have more downtime. They have
more time just to like interact organically as opposed to
a cand date.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So I got to tell you, I'd love to see
Charles out there. I would love to see him on
the beach. I don't know if he's going, I don't
know what he thing, but he would be so fun
to watch in America wants to see the guy again.
Everyone's everyone every When I talked to what's going about
with Charles L where's he do? You know, where's he
at disappeared?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I wonder if his hair is still black, he told Diet,
and he's aging backwards.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So that's like, that's one of those things that people's
personality changed so much for him, you know, that was
like so life changing for Charles l I thought it
was going to carry out into real life. You know,
sometimes a lot of people there on the show go
back to their you know, real life and they you know,
(19:37):
nothing really comes from them being on the show, and
then they had this great experience. I thought Charles was
going to kind of stay with us. We would we
were going to be seeing him a little bit more.
I'm a little surprised that he's kind of faded back
into his old life.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, see, well you never know, maybe he'll pop up
on the beach and he'll be back at it again.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe a ponytail and yeah, la oh, we saw that.
We saw that.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
You guys put wedding plans on hold for now. Can
we get into that a little bits.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Okay, I think I'm the spokesperson on this one, you know.
You know, I said, we've been super busy, but that's
really not the whole thing. You know, you guys understand
this because you've been on the show before. You know,
you date kind of in a weird backwards way. You
go and you date really intensely and you take this
leap of faith and you get engaged, and then you
come off the show and then you get to know
(20:35):
each other, you know, in those everyday mundane ways that
you haven't done yet. You've done the big stuff, you
haven't done the little stuff. So we're kind of doing that.
And and I'm not saying that that's the reason we
haven't made wedding plans. It's just we're having fun doing that,
and you know, we're going to make wedding plans. It
just doesn't seem like it's a rush. We don't have
like a biological clock. And it also seems to me
(20:57):
a little bit when you get married, you're probably should
be living together at that point, and we still have
a little bit of time that we need to be apart.
Chuckshaw has a business. You know, we're both really still
kind of busy, and we're having fun meeting, like we
see each other about every two weeks, and those interactions
are really still very fun.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
The absence makes the heart grow funder is a little
bit true. I'm like I, you know, I'm jumping out
of the car, like, you know, so excited to see
him when he comes into town, or the same thing
when I go to Kansas. So it doesn't seem like
there's a rush to get married. It seems like it
would maybe put a strain on our relationship at this
point because we're both really busy and it's working out
(21:39):
really well the way we're doing it now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We do have a little test coming up over July fourth.
We'll be together for two weeks solid.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Is that the longest amount of time you guys will
have spent together. Yes, okay, hopefully you don't get sick
of each other.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
When we're together, the longer we're together, the more comfortable
will we get. And so I feel like at the
end of those two weeks it's going to be hard
to actually leave each other.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Do you guys have any other trips planned together over
the summer?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
We have New York and then that's the middle of June,
and then the two weeks back in Maryland, and then
Joan and I haven't told you, but we're working on
a potential reunion with all the guys in the Why
in Vegas. We've worked on that for the past two
days and then the guys today were texting me going,
Jones got to come, So I don't you know, we'll
(22:32):
have to talk about our schedule. We're usually about three
months out with our schedule, but with the summer, we're
just kind of piecing it together. But we try to
spend some time in New York as well.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And well, he's on the Safari with his son, which
is the first week in August. I'm going to be
on a cruise in the Mediterranean with Nancy from go
to Maxer.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Oh, it's gonna be so much at Oh that's amazing. Well,
you go to this reunion in Vegas. I feel like
you got to bring a girlfriend or something unless you're
down to me with all the boys.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Well, you know, they're all my old boyfriends, so I know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah. The good thing is I'm not a jealous guy.
But if we put it together, it will be a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Oh my god, what are you guys thinking you want
to do in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well, and honey, I have to tell you. I mean,
this is almost everyone that was on the show. Everyone's
going to get in live.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Well, Oh my gosh, I think Charles l would have
a good time in Vegas. He's probably never been.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Well a couple of guys go. I hope Joan remembers
me because she only spent ten minutes with me before
she takes me off the show.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, you know how hard that it's like the first
night is you guys know, like some people you hardly
have to spend any time with them, then they're gone forever.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Hopefully you know you don't meet one of those guys
and be like, damn, I made a huge mistake.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Chip, If a couple does come out, a golden couple
does come out of Paradise, what after show advice would
(24:17):
you give them?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You have a thought, Chuck.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I don't know if this is cliche, but just live
your life. You know you're in the public eye a
little bit or maybe a lot, But just live your life.
Do what you want to do, and some opportunities will
come your way. But do what you think is right,
what you're comfortable with, and spend as much time as
you can together. But then get to know the person.
Because Joan and I have been very authentic on this
(24:42):
is it was quick. It was fast, the attraction was there.
We knew we were going to be a good fit.
But as she said earlier, Jone said earlier, we're just
now still getting to know each other. And even if
we were married, you know, had just a flash of
the pan marriage that first year. You're still learning about
the person, their family, what they like, what they don't like,
you know, just the whole thing. So just take it
(25:04):
slow and enjoy life.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, I would feel like, you know, you are suddenly
in the limelight a little more so when you're contestant,
you're one of many. When you come out as a couple,
people are very interested. They've invested in this journey, they've
watched you fall in love. They want to know more
about you. So, like, I think you have to respect
that you have. You know, you have introduced them to
this relationship and it's not very nice to leave them
(25:28):
at the curb at this point, So you do have to.
I feel like you owe it to the people that
have watched the show to you know, at least give
them updates on how you guys are doing. But I
don't think that needs to be the main part of
your relationship, and I do think that happens sometimes. I
look at some bachelor couples and they're all about being
out and you know, doing Instagram and you know, being
(25:49):
on shows. I think that needs to be a part
of it. But I think the bigger part of it
has to be you and the two of you really,
you know, learning about each other and seeing each other
how you live, because how you live is important, especially
as Golden's you have a very established life. You're not
you know, saying no, I'm going to get up and
move to where you live. You're going to give up
a move where I live. You know, you have families,
(26:09):
you have friends, you have jobs, you have lives that
you really established, so figuring it out it is a
little bit harder.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Definitely. Yeah, that makes sense. So overall, right now, the
plan for you guys would be hopefully to move in
together at some point and then and then marriage.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think we're you know, I would say
in the next eighteen months will be in that that place.
But we're not rushing it. There's no reason to, and
we want to make sure we do it right. We
want to make sure that you know, everything is settled
for chalk with his you know, with his business, and
you know that that has a little ways to go,
and so you know, there's no huge rush, and we
want to do it right, you know, real we're building
(26:51):
a big future, and you know you can't rush.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It, especially not a five bedroom apartment in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Can't rush that.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
July have psychologically get there because I have a hamper.
But for some reason, my clothes don't make it to
the hamper. And when I'm with Joe, they need to
make it to the hamper. So my life, my lifestyle
is going to change a little bit.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
So the hamper right next to the vad as accessible as.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, it needs to be right in his face.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And then everyone in what you tel knows the story
about my socks or everybody in the United States knows
about my socks collection. But then the latest thing was
is I've never had salt in my house. And honey,
I heard all about that the last few days. All
the ladies were laughing and going, I can't believe you
didn't have any salt whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You didn't have any salt. He didn't have any mixing bowls.
I was trying to cook something. We were going to
a friend of his house and I said, oh, I'll
bring dessert, and I went to find stuff. There was nothing.
He has no like mixing things. She doesn't have a
bowl to put like batter in.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
There was.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I take it, you're not really a cook chalk.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Actually I am. But it's all protein.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You're salt, but you don't seal. You don't salt anything
your steak.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is it like a health thing or just an indifference?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It started with a health thing, and then I'm a
little different, like I haven't had cable TV for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm Catholic, and they were. It was in the process
of the pope being selected, and it was driving me crazy.
I couldn't watch the news. I really wanted to see
this whole thing. We were at a at a Vietnamese restaurant.
They had a TV on and I saw that the
pope had been selected because he has no cable.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
No, all right, so we need cable, we need mixing balls,
we need a.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Laundry hamble yes, salt, salt.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
When I first went to Joe's place in Chicago, he
had like two bowls, two plates.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Last myself, I was like, we.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Need to go to Target and then talked to the
cutest thing. He bought me a mug, so I had
my own mug and it was really really cute, and
I go, so I'm there. The last time I get
up in the morning, I'm like, I'm to make my
coffee and I look in the cabinet. I can't find
my damn mug. He's taken it to his office. So
he told my mug.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He liked it. He was like, ah, it's pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
It was a really nice mug.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Before before we let you guys go, any we talked
about trips, any projects coming up?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You want to talk about plug anything like that.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
How about you, Chuck.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I will tell you I had something unique cap in
last week. And I'm kind of a tough guy that
has just a little sensitive side. But what's a top
Medical It's a nonprofit organization for people who have been
assaulted in victims. And I've heard about you know, I've
heard about it. They're actually a client of mine. But
I went and met with the board of directors and viewed,
(29:48):
had a tour of their facility. Absolutely incredible. And I'm
a guy that, you know, everyone knows what nine to
one one is. I didn't know what two to one
one is, and that's for assault victims to call in
to get count lean and those type of things. But
this group offers a medical facility if somebody does not
want to go to the hospital, they want complete privacy.
(30:09):
And it was just it was incredible and it's just
a very small nonprofit. They run on a shoestring budget,
and it just made me feel good about humanity. And
the board of directors they were all people that were
connected to it in one way or another, Catholic charities,
they had a prosecutor, they had a detective, all females
from the local police department, and it was just really good.
It made you feel good about humanity and people doing
(30:31):
good for other people in a bad situation. So that's
a little bit of what the platform gives you is
it gives you exposure to the stuff. And I'm at
a point where if I do anything on a platform
I wanted to, you can't. You're not always going to
be perfect, but you want it to mean something for
someone educational or just say hey, here's this group. And
at first I was like, you know, I didn't want
(30:53):
to push for people to donate, but I'm going just
what a fantastic group and they what they need is
supplies and a little bit of money for their facility,
but that's it. Everyone that volunteers there does not take
a salary. So just a very great, great two hours
that I had last week.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Can you say the name of the facility one more
time in case people want to look it up for don't.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's Wichita Medical and it's a forensic facility. And my
mother was a forensic pathologist, so she dealt with end
of life that type of thing. And that's what I
go explained to me, the forensic but it's scientific of
going in to say, you know, who's the perpetrator all
that stuff, and it really protects it. It's not only
(31:34):
for women, but it protects people's rights and gives them advocacy.
It gives them access to people that deal with this
for a living, that care about it, that can help
these people through these situations.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It's amazing. You know, those organizations exist all over the place.
So because women that are abused are afraid a lot
of them because their abusers will come find them. So
the fact that they make an effort to make or
that this is secretive and they feel safe is really
important because otherwise they won't come forward. So that's an
amazing network. And I'm doing a couple of things. I
(32:08):
think both of us feel very privileged that, you know,
at this age in life, we have a little bit
of a platform that people like at least we have
maybe some followers, or we get to be on a
show like this and talk about, you know, some special projects.
So I'm doing the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network and that
was you know what I talk about because I was
on Andy Cohen. But that's a big, big, big charity,
(32:28):
and it's what my husband died from, pay credic cancer
and it's on track to be the second leading cause
of cancer related deaths in the United States. So that
scares you. It should, because it was a cancer that
we never heard about before, and all of a sudden
there's a huge uptake in it and there's no test
to detect it, and there are very few treatment options.
So if anybody wants to give, that's an amazing organization
(32:51):
to give to. And I'm also going tomorrow night to
do a local charity called Comfort Cases. A guy who
had been part of the foster care system, just like
my mother had been, and a lot of people we
probably all know have been part of that system. Started
a company or started a phill on topic organization, a
(33:12):
nonprofit that gives people going into foster care comfort pack.
So at their backpacks and they take they have toiletries
and pajamas and you know, for the younger ones, a
little a stuffed animal, for the older ones, you know,
some other things. But he gives them something. So when
they go to these places sometimes they have nothing. They've
been taken out of a home because it's an emergency
and they have nothing. So they Last year he provided
(33:35):
two hundred and fifty thousand of them, so to organizations
across the United States. All you have to do is
go on the website and say what I need, like
how many you need, if you need ten, if you
need twenty. A lot of a lot of people in
the legal system and in the you know, in like
that works with kids access these through this organization. So
(33:58):
he will send them to anybody re charge. So I'm
going to be there tomorrow night stuffing packs with a
bunch of my friends.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I love hearing the different organizations that you guys are
involved with.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And if anyone is looking to support.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
There's two two awesome charities and organizations right there that
you can take fred in.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, Joe, I have a question for you.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You've been working out. You kind of got the gun
show going pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
No, I think it's just the way I mean, I
do work out, But I think it's but I appreciate.
I think I think that's the perfect way to end
this podcast. Thank you guys so much for coming on
and taking the time.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Really, we really, it's always a pleasure. Joe, I'll see
you Thursday.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Bye to all our listeners. Thank you guys so much
for tuning in the Better Happy Hour. Make sure you
download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
We have new extensive interviews coming every single week, so
don't ready to subscribe.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Bye,
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