April 4, 2025 • 35 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re sitting down with Mark Anderson! Mark is here to catch up with us, dish out some advice, and let Bachelor Nation get to know him a little better. We kick off the episode with his updates, including how he met his current girlfriend Barbara —everyone loves a meet-cute! Then, he gets into his time on “The Golden Bachelorette,” dating after losing his wife, and the lifelong friendships he’s made. And, of course, we dive into some advice, starting with our question of the day: What’s something you wish you knew about kids before becoming a parent? Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're back, Kathy in Susan to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Thanks for joining us. Wait do you see who we
get to talk to today?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's so exciting. It's just my heart would be melting
if his heart weren't already taken. But our special guest,
we will chat with him in just a minute. Will
make you just wait to find out who it is.
But in the meantime, make sure that you're submitting your
questions to us. Just go to Bachelor nation dot com
slash Golden Hour, submit away. We love hearing from you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yep, send us your questions, send us your updates. We
got an update today and that was rabulous. We've been
begging people because we give advice and we want to
know how it turns out and were we wrong or right?
But you can also dm us on Instagram at Bachelor
Happy Hour. All right, now, let's bring in our guests.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Please.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Welcome from Joan Season and America's favorite Mark Anderson and
my good friend.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Hey Mark, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm great? Thank you? How are you? Ladies?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We hear you've been under the weather.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, I got I got caught up under that bug.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That went influenza, influenza. I had it, Kathy had it.
I think everybody in the world just had it.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, well it was weird. I went and got tested,
but they said it wasn't the flu, it wasn't covid.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was just no, I didn't have the flu. I
had bronchitis and some weird virus. Two prescriptions of antibiotics later.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Finally, well, they first told me I didn't have it,
and then I did the other test three days later,
sick as a dog, and I had it all from citis.
Influenza's whatever. Okay, he's from hell.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's all. It's all. But we got to jump right in.
Tell us give us an update on you and Barbara.
That's what That's what the world wants to know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I want to know how you met.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh, I know how they met.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I wanted to tell me.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, Mark, how do you meet? I mean, not us, Barbara.
We know that, we know how we met. We want
to know how how you met Barbara.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, I got invited to Uh we met at a
Halloween party. It's just kind of meat.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
He's so shy. I look at you. Okay, we want
to hear what I laid eyes on her. I got
so excited.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Let let the man answer his own words, will you please?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh, I mean, you know, it's uh, it's kind of neat.
You know, she's got she has kids the same age
as my kids, and there's just a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So it's nice comfortable.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So how do you guys spend your time? Do you
kind of go back and forth? How do you do that?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
What's that? Oh? Yeah, I mean like I work, I
mean Louis and I work here, you know all that
stuff here, So I do travel quite a bit. We've
been able to to meet up a few places, like Christmas.
We got to go do a great time together with Christmas. Yeah,
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and just had a lot of a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Then, well, it's great seeing you at the finality finale
at the party and getting to meet her.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
She was lovely. Yeah, it was a good time, good time.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, and my daughter, your daughter, Kelsey, how is she doing?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Kelsey is doing great. Her and Joey are keeping, you know,
super busy with everything. Joey's still doing the Dancing with
the Stars tour.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I got to see her. They were here in Philly, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And awesome.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Yeah, I know they're they're my one of my daughters,
and I believe my son, my oldest son, are going
to try to see them in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Wait a minute, when are they coming to San Antonio.
I'll look that up. I live in Austin. That's only
like less than an hour away.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, that's where my oldest daughter lives is well, she's
in Leander.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh my gosh, that's like fifteen minutes from me.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I didn't get me. It was a great show.
You'll enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh my goodness. All right, I'll have to look into
doing that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Have you seen the show's changed? Like every location they
do an entire new show.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, they do.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It's so like you can go almost every city and
see something different.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Susan, why don't you come and we'll go to San Antonio.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, it depends on when it is sure, sure, so sure, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So I want to know, if I'm not digging too
deeply here, how do your kids. I don't really know
since your wife passed away, if you've had a lot
of serious relationships, But how are your kids doing with
you and Barbara together? What's what's their thought? Because you
know she has children, as you said, and you do
me about that, how it's working out.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
They've been you know, they were very supportive, you know,
having to ask them. That was before I ever went
on the show, you know, in the Golden Bassilorette. So
I asked them if it was okay for me to date,
you know, and then if it was okay to date
on TV.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Just a little detail, yeah, just a little a.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Little larger detail there. Yeah, but it was you know,
they were very supportive in that, you know. And it's
been a while, you know, it had been five years
or six years.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Actually, it'll be six years for me on Monday.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, at the time, it was
six years you know, when we when I left for
the show, So it was it had been a while,
you know, and they were supportive. We talked about it.
I had not really approached that subject with them.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well maybe you weren't ready, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, you know, it's like I wasn't really ready to
talk to them about it, you know, because how do
you approach that, you know, I mean, I'm not trying
to replace their mother, you know, she could never be replaced.
But you know, it's it's a it's a it's a
tough thing to approach.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
When you got on the show, like you met all
those wonderful men that you bonded with and Joan and
it was openly dating because everybody was dating her, But
it was a whole new thing for you.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Correct, Yeah, it was, you know, and you know, it
was the the opportunity to have that that support group
of men like and to open up because you know,
I grew up in the military.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
My entire adult life has been military related, and sharing
emotion and feelings and stuff like that just didn't That's
not the time or the place to do stuff. So
to have that opportunity there at the mansion, and and
you know, it's just a fantastic group of men. I
don't know that. You know, I could probably try to
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find a similar situation to go into, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't think he.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Would be the same. You know. Well, I mean it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Was past Scale shared with us that he would definitely
choose you to be on.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That des.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Why you gave him calmness, like if he would be excited,
he said, Mark is so smooth and nice and easy.
He loves you, but you would calm him there.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, the Scal's got
the he gets he gets kind of excited sometimes, you know,
but he can sit and talk. It's just a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He said that y'all were telling bedtime stories at the mansion.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Said yeah, it was yeah, they they you know, different
rooms had different different dynamis going on. You know, I
wasn't in the same room as Pascal. I was over
in the big you know, in the Yeah, the nine
of us in there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So why we had only for a week.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well, yeah, it thinned out. It seemed like it seemed
like our room emptied out faster.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Than the emptied out three the first the most. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So you think when you first got her, like, what
was your feeling when you moved into the mansion, Like
what were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, it was it was, uh wow, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Kathy and I met that first night, were standing by
the fireplace after everybody got in, right before the rose
erment and said, okay, here goes check this out.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah it was it was, you know, it was like Pascal,
I think the first person I talked to. I don't
even know. I remember walking in and everybody was already
because I didn't know, you know, what ranking I was, like,
what number I was getting getting Yeah, so I just
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knew that I was in a limo and I got
to go there with Kelsey, which I don't even know
if that was comforting or not. I think I was
more nervous.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, because she was a star.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So that actually brings me to a question that you
must have just read my mind. You know, a few
years ago, you were a private person. Kelsey was a
private person. Now both you and Kelsey are in the
public eye so much, and I mean truly like that,
you know, Bachelor Nation stars, but I would say even
(09:51):
stars beyond that. What is that shift like for you
and and your family?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I mean, it's very different for me because I've always
been like, you know, I was always private, Like I
had a Facebook account, but I had a Facebook because
my kids had Facebook, right, and it was just to
make sure they were living right, you know online and uh,
but my kids used to tease me that, you know,
I'd have like twelve friends on Facebook or something. I
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don't know who that is. I'd delete them and they'd
make fun of me for you know, Dad, No, you're
supposed to have friends and just them, you know. Now
it's completely different.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
What about your other kids? How do they, you know,
the kids that aren't in the limelight, if you will,
How do they feel about all of this?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Well, they're good. I mean they're very supportive, you know,
of me enough Kelsey, you know they they I think
they're they're a little bit more reserved. You know, they're
all so different in personality, and you know, just the
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way they are.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
The beautiful tale I met every one of them. They're
just a great family.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, but they're you know, they they they maneuvered through
how they have always maneuvered through. You know, I don't
think I've changed any.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But your life certainly has.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, I mean I guess you know, you go out,
like you travel somewhere in somebody season in the airport
and they want to get a picture or something.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah that's yeah, that's a change.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, it's a change. It is.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do your kids get along with barberous kids, are they?
You know? Is there a have you all sort of
formed the one large community if you will, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean there's there's there's a there's a big difference.
You know, you communicate through social media and text messaging
and stuff like that. Yeah, so I'd say that there's
I'd say that there's connections.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Are you comfortable with strangers coming up to you and
asking for your picture?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Now?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Does it still surprise me?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It does.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yet, But you know it's it's kind of neat how
you can kind of you can kind of pick out
now when someone's wont they're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, well I love the ones that are looking at
their phone and looking at you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And all sud it's me.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's me, yeah, that that happened to us. Okay, So
just on a little more serious note, So, you know,
I lost my husband to suicide, as I know you know,
and you lost your wife to cancer. What advice do
you have for someone who is going through grief and loss?
Because I get asked that a lot. What advice do
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you give to people if they ask you that.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Just give yourself, give yourself that time, you know, give
yourself some grace, give yourself some you know, some opportunity
to grieve, give yourself that opportunity to go through those stages. Yeah,
and you know, pay attention to them. You know, you
can't shutting out the world isn't the answer.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I always say, you have to walk through grief to
get to the other side.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
You do you do have to walk to us one
hundred percent. Yeah, but you have to do that walk
at your own pace, right, Like for me, it took
me a while. I had tried. You know, family and
friends are always helpful, right, was trying to push you
along and guide you through that if you're not ready.
(13:45):
But if you're not ready, you're just not ready, right,
So it's you know, you have to go through it
at your own pace, which is important. Like you know,
you'll learn quickly if it's not your pace. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Very, I'm so glad you're on the other side, and
I'm so happy that you're in a happy place, have
a beautiful, healthy family.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's time to live.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So now we have what we call the question of
the day.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So I'll read something and we're all going to answer it,
and we'd like your input.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Is it okay?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, today's question of the day.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What's something you wish you knew about kids when you
first became a parent.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
That's a good one, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I used to say, I wish they came in a
book of rules and a book of instructions, you know,
like a little yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That would change with them, you know, I wish I
wish I knew how much they would remember.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You are. I can't believe you said that. Far mine
is very similar. I wish I had known that it
wasn't the big gifts, it was the time spent with them,
that they would remember the little things that they were.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
It's a little thing, you know, and they remember, they
remember the little things. They remember the little the eaches,
you know, like you create a memory, you create a
tradition and they remember those and it was to change it,
you know, without without a reason or without no it
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can cause some strife sometimes.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Absolutely, we were interviewing. I believe it was Jordan that
said he wished or spend more time with your parents.
Wasn't what did we ask.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Him shortan what he wished he had done or something?
And he's he wished he had spent more time with
his parents, which you know, I wanted to send my
children airmail letters. I mean, my kids are great, I
see a lot of them, but I just think that's
so important to spend time with your parents. Yeah, okay,
So on a lighter note, which one of the guys
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from the Golden Baucherette would you like to see as
a potential Golden Bachelor or on the beaches of Golden
Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Now you're off the market.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You're off the market. Market. It's not you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
As Golden Bachelor like.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Any of them? Maybe an the like? How of them?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Can you choose?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Dan dance fantastic?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
He's a lovely man. He is a super nice, wonderful person.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Greg is the probably.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But I hear Greg's off the market. I hear Greg's
off the market.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You know he could be mer?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You don't know, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, you know, Jonathan would be great, Greg would
be great, Dan would be great, Michael would be incredible.
Askall Jordan's you like them?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're naming them all.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We're not a good answer on this one.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Like you say, who would be a good one? And
all of them would be?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So they should all the Bachelor? Pard, I should they
all be there?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, okay, who would you.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Fix Susan and me up with? Who do you see
Susan to me with? Not to put you on the
spot or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, really, be careful, Mark, we're friends.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Be careful, Mark, we want to be good friends.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I would say the person with the strongest personality would
be the one that I would not suggest for Susan,
but with Kathy.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Wait a minute, say that again? The strongest personality for me?
And who is that?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I don't know whichever one was, whichever one has has
the biggest personality.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I am Stundy here. Why do you say that? We're
in psychology one on one here? Why are you saying that?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I just think I just think that would be a
good match for you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
A strong personality. Man, give me a name, Mark, let's
go listen. I'm not disc bill, just all right.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So I think for Kathy, I think I think Keith.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, Keith and I had a very interesting conversation
on the golf course when we're in Carmel. He's actually,
you know, he's a funny, bigger than life guy, but
when you really talk to him, he's he's really down
to earth sensitive, He's got a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But his personality, his personality is big.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's why I think Keith would be it would be
a perfect match for you. Okay, wah, and Susan, I
would I would say either Greg or Dan.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I really didn't get to speak with Greg. Dan is
a sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Greg. Greg has such a huge personality, like but he's
it's a huge personality, but he's subdued with it, right,
Like he's he's so quick witted, his jokes are always
on point, but so like he is so smart and
he is so I mean, he's just full of full
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of information, you know, and I just think, I don't know,
Greg Dan is like super sweet, but he's not as
he's not.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
As loud as Yeah, Greg's, but the and I agree
with you and that kind of person that I am.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Somebody could be quite the opposite, but they have.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
To be okay with somebody with a big personality.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Okay. So here's the thing. If there's a bachelor in Paradise, Keith,
if you're listening, you owe me a date, okay, and
Susan Dan you get.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Me out.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah you noticed that you got two guys. I only
got one so.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, and they're both Florida guys, so they're like, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That we love Florida. All right. So now that Susan
and I have dates, we're going to move on to
our fan questions, Mark. So we're going to read I'm
going to read a question and uh, we're going to
give some You're going to give some advice. Okay, all right,
here we got Logan who is thirty four rights. Hi, ladies,
I need your advice. My wife and I just had
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our first baby, and my mom has been begging us
for years to have a kid and has spent so
much time with our four month old it's amazing. Now,
out of absolutely nowhere, she told us she's moving to
Idaho next week. For context, we live in New York
in the suburbs, and just days ago she was looking
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at places in our neighborhood. The decision feels so one
hundred and eighty degrees and out of absolutely nowhere. My
heart is crushed because she spends so much time with
us and our baby and now it's going to be
so different. There's no change in her mind because she said,
you can't afford living in New York anymore and needs
to move to a cheaper state. I get it, but like,
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what the heck? This decision is so quick. We found
her cheaper apartments here, but she already signed a lease
and booked a one way ticket to Idaho. And before
you ask, no, she doesn't know anyone there and has
a great friend group family here. Seems like she just
wants a fresh start. But my feelings are really hurt
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that we weren't really considered any advice for how to
not build a her and resentment towards her in this decision.
I know she needs to do what's best for her,
but this one hurts. O Marco. Why do I have
to be first because you're because you're on the spot
and you're the celebrity of the day.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Go for it, don't give it, don't overthink.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It just exactly happened.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I mean it's, you know, so first. For whatever reason,
Idaho spoke right. I mean, she went so far as
to get a new place to live, and like there's
something that drew her to Idaho. So it drew her
to Idaho. You know, it is their child. It gives
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them an opportunity to bond with their baby a little
bit more. You know, the grandmother is always going to
be a grandmother. Maybe she just thought that she was
taking over too much, you know, a parental role with
the with the grand baby. Support her in that decision
to go to Idaho. She signed the least. Maybe it's
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only a year and she'll be back in the year.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I could be, but he shouldn't have her.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
No, No, I don't. I don't think resentment would be.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's a little I got to say, though, it's shocking
why I have I have. You don't have grandchildren yet, Mark, right, No,
I do not. Okay, I have two, and they're six
years old and two years old, and they both live here,
and I would walk on hot coals for either one
of them. So but having said that, if I mean,
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whence Keith asked me to marry him, I'm moving to
wherever the hell he lives in California. But that's what
airplanes are for. I would fly back and see my kids.
But I think I would have a hard time picking
up and leaving my grandchildren for no other reason than quote,
I need a cheaper state. I mean, I think that's
(23:53):
why I agree with Mark. So let me just tell
you is one of the fastest growing cities.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Okay, but she might have met somebody that she's fond
of who knows that. I wouldn't be more interested in
why she chose that state or that Idaho then why
she was leaving. She said she wanted something cheaper. You know,
maybe what was his name, lowis.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Why didn't you go to Fargo, North Dakota.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Maybe logos is a little spoiled having mom watch that
baby all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
There's where the resentment comes.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You're losing your babysitter and your mother that could do that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's fair. Yeah, but do you think.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You know, maybe she was thinking that they needed time
to be parents, you know, if she was spending that
much time.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But Idaho from New York to I mean, it's not
like hitting the belt, you know, Like how about Alabama.
I mean, you know you're you're still on these.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Codsbout Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Jersey.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I mean you could get Pennsylvania is cheaper than New York, isn't.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I mean Louisiana. I mean, there's your home, your home.
I mean, there's just Idaho. That's my question to you,
sweet girl, on this question. Yeah, say why you know,
but at the end of the day, at the end
of the day, if that's what she wants to do,
we all have to remember it's it's your mom's life,
and she has one go round. We all have one
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go round, and sometimes we make decisions and we make mistakes,
but it's our life and our mistakes to make.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, don't resent support.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
One that was tough that was a tough one.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
All right, Mark, before we let you go, which we
don't want to, because you know, we want you to
plan our dates with Keith and with Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'm not calling Dan, by the way, you have his number.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Wait, let me just say, Mark, you understand somebody's going
to pick up on this, and I'm going to get
a Google alert tomorrow or whenever. This is not tomorrow,
but whenever this comes out. Kathy is day, Keith and
Susan can't choose between Dan and Greg. That's what's happening here,
just putting it out there.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Okay, I just need somebody to please Golf.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That's all. We're gonna play a little game with you.
We're gonna ask some fun questions so our listeners can
get to know more about you. All right, here's the
first one. What would be the name of your autobiography?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm thinking everything? How about thinking? That's a good word.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm thinking I love.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
It, you know, the turning the turning wheel.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm oh, I thought it was going to be turning wheel.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I love it. I actually like that title. I'm thinking
I love it. Okay, Susan, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Did Pascal say his what about Kathy? Guests for Pascal?
And she said something about fast fashion.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I thought it was good. I mean, I said, my
name is or I am fashion. I thought that was good.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, next question, who is someone that inspires you?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Someone who inspires me? My mom?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
How old is your mom?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Eighty seven?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh? Bless her still blesser?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Really North Dakota?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh my god, are you serious?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I know that in North Dakota?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
I said, I thought, I I did.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Not know that. Well, how's the cost of living in
Fargo there, Mark, I did not?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
No way, Yeah, I graduated high school in Fargo, North Dakota,
Fargo Sooth High School.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I can't believe that just popped into my head. I really,
I had no idea you were you grew wentigh school
and oh that's so funny. All right, what is a
piece of advice you wish you could give your younger self?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Just keep doing what you're doing. I went through life doing,
you know, thought about things and did them. And you know,
I think the the choices I made, I'm good with them.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I like, you know, you don't have any regrets.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No, no, because like things that I didn't things that
I didn't do right. I learned from them.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Mm hmm, that's true.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You know if you don't, if you if you have
a perfect life with zero regrets, how do you ever learn?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Damn He's the one people don't learn from their mistakes.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, yeah, that's all Susan. That's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So my answer to that would be, don't sweat the
small stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
My answer would be, don't be nervous to try new
things because you never want to feel like you could have,
should have, would have and fear kept you, and that
fear kept you. Don't let fear stand in your way.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, your favorite band or musician when you were a teenager.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
When I was a teenager, or now it could be
now Helen okay, Van Halen. Interesting, it was yours always
the Beatles, always when I was a kid. Actually, and
I love Chicago, the band Chicago. Yeah, well that's yeah,
we all do.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I like led Zeppelin to who.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yes, I just love I still love music. I have
music going all the time at my house. Okay, what's
your dream?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I think that's I think it's not very fair to
say who's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know there isn't a favorite.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Who's your favorite woman that you're dating right now. That's fair,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I guess that would be a fair question.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
There you go. What is your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Dream vacation destination is a I think Fiji, the hut
above the water.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I want to go there, That's what I said. I
want to get.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
These very still and quiet. There's not a lie can
be still quiet, Sason, not.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
The big I don't know about that. Key.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You just told me you want to hook me up
with Greg, not Greg.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
She already forgot you forgot.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Kay.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
With that being said, Mark, if you were going to
be stuck on a deserted island and could only bring
three guys from your season of the Golden Bachelorette, who
would they be?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
M Y, it better be Pascal Hill kill.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You next week, Keith, because there's there's always a conversation.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
With He'll be with me to try again.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Okay, then Jordans.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's three, No, seriously, Jordan, Keith and Pascal.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Could you tell me why?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Why? Yeah? Pascal? I think Pascal and Jordan's were the
first ones that were the first men there that I
that I connect like. I have a son named Pascal
and I have a daughter named Jordan.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
You have a son named Pascal. I do.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
My oldest son is Pascal.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Oh my gosh. I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So but we just we just we just clicked. Uh,
the three of us. I think.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That was like us, Kathy Nancy, Yeah, that was like us.
There is actually a picture I've said this before in
our podcast there. I don't remember how, but there is
a picture of Susan and me standing in front of
the fireplace in the mansion, in the room where they
delivered the roses, that big room, And I don't I
(32:02):
remember taking the picture, but I don't actually remember meeting you.
But we clicked immediately when we were in the mansion. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's like you meet
people and you know, just like right away that but
it was like I think that was I mean, probably
not everyone. Like there were a couple of people. There
were a couple of guys that like they just weren't there,
you know, the ones that left real early didn't. I
(32:32):
didn't really get a chance to talk with him too much,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Everybody talks a lot about Michael, and did you get
to know him? Because everyone talks about how nice he is,
and I've talked with him a few times. He seems
like a lovely guy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And fantastic human being.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Michael, Yeah, that's what everyone says.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You know. And then he and then he just kind
of kept to himself about the whole you know, the process,
you know, the stuff that he was going through. Well
while he can't you know, Yeah, it was Michael is
a Michael is a fantastic human being. Like his heart
is just pure gold.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, coming from your heart is pure gold. So I
mean with all that, I mean, we're gonna leave it
on that note because we have thoroughly enjoyed having you
and you are a super great guy. And but unfortunately
(33:29):
that is going to do it for this episode. I'm
gonna cry. A Bachelor. I know they go so fast,
but this, this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours, Gold and
Nora has been a fabulous one. Thank you to our
I could use all kinds of adjectives to describe you,
but I'm just going to say, our fabulous guest, Mark,
we love you. We are so happy that you seem
(33:52):
to have found love, and we just are so happy
that you joined us today.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I just want to following your footsteps and just find
my love.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
That'll be perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Thanks so much for being here with us. We love
you and we will definitely be in touch. And thank
you all for listening, and make sure to follow Bachelor
Happy Hours. We have new episodes coming out every week
that you don't want to miss. You're getting to know
all of these people like we do.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Right, and how fabulous are they? Okay, I'm beginning to
sound like a broken record, but at the risk of
cracking the forty five, I'm going to say, you know what,
nobody knows what a forty five is. Accept us old people,
but that's okay. Make sure you submit our question your
questions to us. All you have to do is go
to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or dm us
(34:43):
on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. We really really do
want to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio
app or wherever you listen to your podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Until next time, take care,
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're back, Kathy in Susan to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Thanks for joining us. Wait do you see who we
get to talk to today?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's so exciting. It's just my heart would be melting
if his heart weren't already taken. But our special guest,
we will chat with him in just a minute. Will
make you just wait to find out who it is.
But in the meantime, make sure that you're submitting your
questions to us. Just go to Bachelor nation dot com
slash Golden Hour, submit away. We love hearing from you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yep, send us your questions, send us your updates. We
got an update today and that was rabulous. We've been
begging people because we give advice and we want to
know how it turns out and were we wrong or right?
But you can also dm us on Instagram at Bachelor
Happy Hour. All right, now, let's bring in our guests.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Please.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Welcome from Joan Season and America's favorite Mark Anderson and
my good friend.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Hey Mark, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm great? Thank you? How are you? Ladies?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We hear you've been under the weather.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, I got I got caught up under that bug.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That went influenza, influenza. I had it, Kathy had it.
I think everybody in the world just had it.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, well it was weird. I went and got tested,
but they said it wasn't the flu, it wasn't covid.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was just no, I didn't have the flu. I
had bronchitis and some weird virus. Two prescriptions of antibiotics later.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Finally, well, they first told me I didn't have it,
and then I did the other test three days later,
sick as a dog, and I had it all from citis.
Influenza's whatever. Okay, he's from hell.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's all. It's all. But we got to jump right in.
Tell us give us an update on you and Barbara.
That's what That's what the world wants to know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I want to know how you met.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh, I know how they met.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I wanted to tell me.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, Mark, how do you meet? I mean, not us, Barbara.
We know that, we know how we met. We want
to know how how you met Barbara.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, I got invited to Uh we met at a
Halloween party. It's just kind of meat.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
He's so shy. I look at you. Okay, we want
to hear what I laid eyes on her. I got
so excited.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Let let the man answer his own words, will you please?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh, I mean, you know, it's uh, it's kind of neat.
You know, she's got she has kids the same age
as my kids, and there's just a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So it's nice comfortable.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So how do you guys spend your time? Do you
kind of go back and forth? How do you do that?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
What's that? Oh? Yeah, I mean like I work, I
mean Louis and I work here, you know all that
stuff here, So I do travel quite a bit. We've
been able to to meet up a few places, like Christmas.
We got to go do a great time together with Christmas. Yeah,
(03:16):
and just had a lot of a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Then, well, it's great seeing you at the finality finale
at the party and getting to meet her.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
She was lovely. Yeah, it was a good time, good time.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, and my daughter, your daughter, Kelsey, how is she doing?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Kelsey is doing great. Her and Joey are keeping, you know,
super busy with everything. Joey's still doing the Dancing with
the Stars tour.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I got to see her. They were here in Philly, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And awesome.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Yeah, I know they're they're my one of my daughters,
and I believe my son, my oldest son, are going
to try to see them in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Wait a minute, when are they coming to San Antonio.
I'll look that up. I live in Austin. That's only
like less than an hour away.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, that's where my oldest daughter lives is well, she's
in Leander.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh my gosh, that's like fifteen minutes from me.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I didn't get me. It was a great show.
You'll enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh my goodness. All right, I'll have to look into
doing that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Have you seen the show's changed? Like every location they
do an entire new show.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, they do.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It's so like you can go almost every city and
see something different.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Susan, why don't you come and we'll go to San Antonio.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, it depends on when it is sure, sure, so sure, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So I want to know, if I'm not digging too
deeply here, how do your kids. I don't really know
since your wife passed away, if you've had a lot
of serious relationships, But how are your kids doing with
you and Barbara together? What's what's their thought? Because you
know she has children, as you said, and you do
me about that, how it's working out.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
They've been you know, they were very supportive, you know,
having to ask them. That was before I ever went
on the show, you know, in the Golden Bassilorette. So
I asked them if it was okay for me to date,
you know, and then if it was okay to date
on TV.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Just a little detail, yeah, just a little a.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Little larger detail there. Yeah, but it was you know,
they were very supportive in that, you know. And it's
been a while, you know, it had been five years
or six years.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Actually, it'll be six years for me on Monday.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, at the time, it was
six years you know, when we when I left for
the show, So it was it had been a while,
you know, and they were supportive. We talked about it.
I had not really approached that subject with them.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well maybe you weren't ready, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, you know, it's like I wasn't really ready to
talk to them about it, you know, because how do
you approach that, you know, I mean, I'm not trying
to replace their mother, you know, she could never be replaced.
But you know, it's it's a it's a it's a
tough thing to approach.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
When you got on the show, like you met all
those wonderful men that you bonded with and Joan and
it was openly dating because everybody was dating her, But
it was a whole new thing for you.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Correct, Yeah, it was, you know, and you know, it
was the the opportunity to have that that support group
of men like and to open up because you know,
I grew up in the military.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
My entire adult life has been military related, and sharing
emotion and feelings and stuff like that just didn't That's
not the time or the place to do stuff. So
to have that opportunity there at the mansion, and and
you know, it's just a fantastic group of men. I
don't know that. You know, I could probably try to
(07:05):
find a similar situation to go into, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't think he.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Would be the same. You know. Well, I mean it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Was past Scale shared with us that he would definitely
choose you to be on.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That des.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Why you gave him calmness, like if he would be excited,
he said, Mark is so smooth and nice and easy.
He loves you, but you would calm him there.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, the Scal's got
the he gets he gets kind of excited sometimes, you know,
but he can sit and talk. It's just a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He said that y'all were telling bedtime stories at the mansion.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Said yeah, it was yeah, they they you know, different
rooms had different different dynamis going on. You know, I
wasn't in the same room as Pascal. I was over
in the big you know, in the Yeah, the nine
of us in there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So why we had only for a week.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well, yeah, it thinned out. It seemed like it seemed
like our room emptied out faster.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Than the emptied out three the first the most. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So you think when you first got her, like, what
was your feeling when you moved into the mansion, Like
what were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, it was it was, uh wow, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Kathy and I met that first night, were standing by
the fireplace after everybody got in, right before the rose
erment and said, okay, here goes check this out.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah it was it was, you know, it was like Pascal,
I think the first person I talked to. I don't
even know. I remember walking in and everybody was already
because I didn't know, you know, what ranking I was, like,
what number I was getting getting Yeah, so I just
(09:17):
knew that I was in a limo and I got
to go there with Kelsey, which I don't even know
if that was comforting or not. I think I was
more nervous.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, because she was a star.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So that actually brings me to a question that you
must have just read my mind. You know, a few
years ago, you were a private person. Kelsey was a
private person. Now both you and Kelsey are in the
public eye so much, and I mean truly like that,
you know, Bachelor Nation stars, but I would say even
(09:51):
stars beyond that. What is that shift like for you
and and your family?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I mean, it's very different for me because I've always
been like, you know, I was always private, Like I
had a Facebook account, but I had a Facebook because
my kids had Facebook, right, and it was just to
make sure they were living right, you know online and uh,
but my kids used to tease me that, you know,
I'd have like twelve friends on Facebook or something. I
(10:22):
don't know who that is. I'd delete them and they'd
make fun of me for you know, Dad, No, you're
supposed to have friends and just them, you know. Now
it's completely different.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
What about your other kids? How do they, you know,
the kids that aren't in the limelight, if you will,
How do they feel about all of this?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Well, they're good. I mean they're very supportive, you know,
of me enough Kelsey, you know they they I think
they're they're a little bit more reserved. You know, they're
all so different in personality, and you know, just the
(10:59):
way they are.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
The beautiful tale I met every one of them. They're
just a great family.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, but they're you know, they they they maneuvered through
how they have always maneuvered through. You know, I don't
think I've changed any.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But your life certainly has.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, I mean I guess you know, you go out,
like you travel somewhere in somebody season in the airport
and they want to get a picture or something.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah that's yeah, that's a change.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, it's a change. It is.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do your kids get along with barberous kids, are they?
You know? Is there a have you all sort of
formed the one large community if you will, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean there's there's there's a there's a big difference.
You know, you communicate through social media and text messaging
and stuff like that. Yeah, so I'd say that there's
I'd say that there's connections.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Are you comfortable with strangers coming up to you and
asking for your picture?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Now?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Does it still surprise me?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It does.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yet, But you know it's it's kind of neat how
you can kind of you can kind of pick out
now when someone's wont they're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, well I love the ones that are looking at
their phone and looking at you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And all sud it's me.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's me, yeah, that that happened to us. Okay, So
just on a little more serious note, So, you know,
I lost my husband to suicide, as I know you know,
and you lost your wife to cancer. What advice do
you have for someone who is going through grief and loss?
Because I get asked that a lot. What advice do
(12:53):
you give to people if they ask you that.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Just give yourself, give yourself that time, you know, give
yourself some grace, give yourself some you know, some opportunity
to grieve, give yourself that opportunity to go through those stages. Yeah,
and you know, pay attention to them. You know, you
can't shutting out the world isn't the answer.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I always say, you have to walk through grief to
get to the other side.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
You do you do have to walk to us one
hundred percent. Yeah, but you have to do that walk
at your own pace, right, Like for me, it took
me a while. I had tried. You know, family and
friends are always helpful, right, was trying to push you
along and guide you through that if you're not ready.
(13:45):
But if you're not ready, you're just not ready, right,
So it's you know, you have to go through it
at your own pace, which is important. Like you know,
you'll learn quickly if it's not your pace. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Very, I'm so glad you're on the other side, and
I'm so happy that you're in a happy place, have
a beautiful, healthy family.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's time to live.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So now we have what we call the question of
the day.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So I'll read something and we're all going to answer it,
and we'd like your input.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Is it okay?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, today's question of the day.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What's something you wish you knew about kids when you
first became a parent.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
That's a good one, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I used to say, I wish they came in a
book of rules and a book of instructions, you know,
like a little yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That would change with them, you know, I wish I
wish I knew how much they would remember.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You are. I can't believe you said that. Far mine
is very similar. I wish I had known that it
wasn't the big gifts, it was the time spent with them,
that they would remember the little things that they were.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
It's a little thing, you know, and they remember, they
remember the little things. They remember the little the eaches,
you know, like you create a memory, you create a
tradition and they remember those and it was to change it,
you know, without without a reason or without no it
(15:29):
can cause some strife sometimes.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Absolutely, we were interviewing. I believe it was Jordan that
said he wished or spend more time with your parents.
Wasn't what did we ask.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Him shortan what he wished he had done or something?
And he's he wished he had spent more time with
his parents, which you know, I wanted to send my
children airmail letters. I mean, my kids are great, I
see a lot of them, but I just think that's
so important to spend time with your parents. Yeah, okay,
So on a lighter note, which one of the guys
(16:05):
from the Golden Baucherette would you like to see as
a potential Golden Bachelor or on the beaches of Golden
Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Now you're off the market.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You're off the market. Market. It's not you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
As Golden Bachelor like.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Any of them? Maybe an the like? How of them?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Can you choose?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Dan dance fantastic?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
He's a lovely man. He is a super nice, wonderful person.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Greg is the probably.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But I hear Greg's off the market. I hear Greg's
off the market.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You know he could be mer?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You don't know, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, you know, Jonathan would be great, Greg would
be great, Dan would be great, Michael would be incredible.
Askall Jordan's you like them?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're naming them all.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We're not a good answer on this one.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Like you say, who would be a good one? And
all of them would be?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So they should all the Bachelor? Pard, I should they
all be there?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, okay, who would you.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Fix Susan and me up with? Who do you see
Susan to me with? Not to put you on the
spot or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, really, be careful, Mark, we're friends.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Be careful, Mark, we want to be good friends.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I would say the person with the strongest personality would
be the one that I would not suggest for Susan,
but with Kathy.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Wait a minute, say that again? The strongest personality for me?
And who is that?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I don't know whichever one was, whichever one has has
the biggest personality.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I am Stundy here. Why do you say that? We're
in psychology one on one here? Why are you saying that?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I just think I just think that would be a
good match for you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
A strong personality. Man, give me a name, Mark, let's
go listen. I'm not disc bill, just all right.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So I think for Kathy, I think I think Keith.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, Keith and I had a very interesting conversation
on the golf course when we're in Carmel. He's actually,
you know, he's a funny, bigger than life guy, but
when you really talk to him, he's he's really down
to earth sensitive, He's got a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But his personality, his personality is big.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's why I think Keith would be it would be
a perfect match for you. Okay, wah, and Susan, I
would I would say either Greg or Dan.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I really didn't get to speak with Greg. Dan is
a sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Greg. Greg has such a huge personality, like but he's
it's a huge personality, but he's subdued with it, right,
Like he's he's so quick witted, his jokes are always
on point, but so like he is so smart and
he is so I mean, he's just full of full
(19:45):
of information, you know, and I just think, I don't know,
Greg Dan is like super sweet, but he's not as
he's not.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
As loud as Yeah, Greg's, but the and I agree
with you and that kind of person that I am.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Somebody could be quite the opposite, but they have.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
To be okay with somebody with a big personality.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Okay. So here's the thing. If there's a bachelor in Paradise, Keith,
if you're listening, you owe me a date, okay, and
Susan Dan you get.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Me out.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah you noticed that you got two guys. I only
got one so.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, and they're both Florida guys, so they're like, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That we love Florida. All right. So now that Susan
and I have dates, we're going to move on to
our fan questions, Mark. So we're going to read I'm
going to read a question and uh, we're going to
give some You're going to give some advice. Okay, all right,
here we got Logan who is thirty four rights. Hi, ladies,
I need your advice. My wife and I just had
(20:53):
our first baby, and my mom has been begging us
for years to have a kid and has spent so
much time with our four month old it's amazing. Now,
out of absolutely nowhere, she told us she's moving to
Idaho next week. For context, we live in New York
in the suburbs, and just days ago she was looking
(21:13):
at places in our neighborhood. The decision feels so one
hundred and eighty degrees and out of absolutely nowhere. My
heart is crushed because she spends so much time with
us and our baby and now it's going to be
so different. There's no change in her mind because she said,
you can't afford living in New York anymore and needs
to move to a cheaper state. I get it, but like,
(21:34):
what the heck? This decision is so quick. We found
her cheaper apartments here, but she already signed a lease
and booked a one way ticket to Idaho. And before
you ask, no, she doesn't know anyone there and has
a great friend group family here. Seems like she just
wants a fresh start. But my feelings are really hurt
(21:55):
that we weren't really considered any advice for how to
not build a her and resentment towards her in this decision.
I know she needs to do what's best for her,
but this one hurts. O Marco. Why do I have
to be first because you're because you're on the spot
and you're the celebrity of the day.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Go for it, don't give it, don't overthink.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It just exactly happened.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I mean it's, you know, so first. For whatever reason,
Idaho spoke right. I mean, she went so far as
to get a new place to live, and like there's
something that drew her to Idaho. So it drew her
to Idaho. You know, it is their child. It gives
(22:41):
them an opportunity to bond with their baby a little
bit more. You know, the grandmother is always going to
be a grandmother. Maybe she just thought that she was
taking over too much, you know, a parental role with
the with the grand baby. Support her in that decision
to go to Idaho. She signed the least. Maybe it's
(23:02):
only a year and she'll be back in the year.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I could be, but he shouldn't have her.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
No, No, I don't. I don't think resentment would be.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's a little I got to say, though, it's shocking
why I have I have. You don't have grandchildren yet, Mark, right, No,
I do not. Okay, I have two, and they're six
years old and two years old, and they both live here,
and I would walk on hot coals for either one
of them. So but having said that, if I mean,
(23:33):
whence Keith asked me to marry him, I'm moving to
wherever the hell he lives in California. But that's what
airplanes are for. I would fly back and see my kids.
But I think I would have a hard time picking
up and leaving my grandchildren for no other reason than quote,
I need a cheaper state. I mean, I think that's
(23:53):
why I agree with Mark. So let me just tell
you is one of the fastest growing cities.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Okay, but she might have met somebody that she's fond
of who knows that. I wouldn't be more interested in
why she chose that state or that Idaho then why
she was leaving. She said she wanted something cheaper. You know,
maybe what was his name, lowis.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Why didn't you go to Fargo, North Dakota.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Maybe logos is a little spoiled having mom watch that
baby all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
There's where the resentment comes.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You're losing your babysitter and your mother that could do that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's fair. Yeah, but do you think.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You know, maybe she was thinking that they needed time
to be parents, you know, if she was spending that
much time.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But Idaho from New York to I mean, it's not
like hitting the belt, you know, Like how about Alabama.
I mean, you know you're you're still on these.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Codsbout Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Jersey.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I mean you could get Pennsylvania is cheaper than New York, isn't.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I mean Louisiana. I mean, there's your home, your home.
I mean, there's just Idaho. That's my question to you,
sweet girl, on this question. Yeah, say why you know,
but at the end of the day, at the end
of the day, if that's what she wants to do,
we all have to remember it's it's your mom's life,
and she has one go round. We all have one
(25:16):
go round, and sometimes we make decisions and we make mistakes,
but it's our life and our mistakes to make.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, don't resent support.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
One that was tough that was a tough one.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
All right, Mark, before we let you go, which we
don't want to, because you know, we want you to
plan our dates with Keith and with Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'm not calling Dan, by the way, you have his number.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Wait, let me just say, Mark, you understand somebody's going
to pick up on this, and I'm going to get
a Google alert tomorrow or whenever. This is not tomorrow,
but whenever this comes out. Kathy is day, Keith and
Susan can't choose between Dan and Greg. That's what's happening here,
just putting it out there.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Okay, I just need somebody to please Golf.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That's all. We're gonna play a little game with you.
We're gonna ask some fun questions so our listeners can
get to know more about you. All right, here's the
first one. What would be the name of your autobiography?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm thinking everything? How about thinking? That's a good word.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm thinking I love.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
It, you know, the turning the turning wheel.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm oh, I thought it was going to be turning wheel.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I love it. I actually like that title. I'm thinking
I love it. Okay, Susan, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Did Pascal say his what about Kathy? Guests for Pascal?
And she said something about fast fashion.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I thought it was good. I mean, I said, my
name is or I am fashion. I thought that was good.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, next question, who is someone that inspires you?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Someone who inspires me? My mom?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
How old is your mom?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Eighty seven?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh? Bless her still blesser?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Really North Dakota?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh my god, are you serious?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I know that in North Dakota?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
I said, I thought, I I did.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Not know that. Well, how's the cost of living in
Fargo there, Mark, I did not?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
No way, Yeah, I graduated high school in Fargo, North Dakota,
Fargo Sooth High School.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I can't believe that just popped into my head. I really,
I had no idea you were you grew wentigh school
and oh that's so funny. All right, what is a
piece of advice you wish you could give your younger self?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Just keep doing what you're doing. I went through life doing,
you know, thought about things and did them. And you know,
I think the the choices I made, I'm good with them.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I like, you know, you don't have any regrets.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No, no, because like things that I didn't things that
I didn't do right. I learned from them.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Mm hmm, that's true.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You know if you don't, if you if you have
a perfect life with zero regrets, how do you ever learn?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Damn He's the one people don't learn from their mistakes.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, yeah, that's all Susan. That's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So my answer to that would be, don't sweat the
small stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
My answer would be, don't be nervous to try new
things because you never want to feel like you could have,
should have, would have and fear kept you, and that
fear kept you. Don't let fear stand in your way.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, your favorite band or musician when you were a teenager.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
When I was a teenager, or now it could be
now Helen okay, Van Halen. Interesting, it was yours always
the Beatles, always when I was a kid. Actually, and
I love Chicago, the band Chicago. Yeah, well that's yeah,
we all do.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I like led Zeppelin to who.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yes, I just love I still love music. I have
music going all the time at my house. Okay, what's
your dream?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
I think that's I think it's not very fair to
say who's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know there isn't a favorite.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Who's your favorite woman that you're dating right now. That's fair,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I guess that would be a fair question.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
There you go. What is your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Dream vacation destination is a I think Fiji, the hut
above the water.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I want to go there, That's what I said. I
want to get.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
These very still and quiet. There's not a lie can
be still quiet, Sason, not.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
The big I don't know about that. Key.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You just told me you want to hook me up
with Greg, not Greg.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
She already forgot you forgot.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Kay.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
With that being said, Mark, if you were going to
be stuck on a deserted island and could only bring
three guys from your season of the Golden Bachelorette, who
would they be?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
M Y, it better be Pascal Hill kill.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You next week, Keith, because there's there's always a conversation.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
With He'll be with me to try again.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Okay, then Jordans.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's three, No, seriously, Jordan, Keith and Pascal.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Could you tell me why?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Why? Yeah? Pascal? I think Pascal and Jordan's were the
first ones that were the first men there that I
that I connect like. I have a son named Pascal
and I have a daughter named Jordan.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
You have a son named Pascal. I do.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
My oldest son is Pascal.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Oh my gosh. I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So but we just we just we just clicked. Uh,
the three of us. I think.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That was like us, Kathy Nancy, Yeah, that was like us.
There is actually a picture I've said this before in
our podcast there. I don't remember how, but there is
a picture of Susan and me standing in front of
the fireplace in the mansion, in the room where they
delivered the roses, that big room, And I don't I
(32:02):
remember taking the picture, but I don't actually remember meeting you.
But we clicked immediately when we were in the mansion. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's like you meet
people and you know, just like right away that but
it was like I think that was I mean, probably
not everyone. Like there were a couple of people. There
were a couple of guys that like they just weren't there,
you know, the ones that left real early didn't. I
(32:32):
didn't really get a chance to talk with him too much,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Everybody talks a lot about Michael, and did you get
to know him? Because everyone talks about how nice he is,
and I've talked with him a few times. He seems
like a lovely guy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And fantastic human being.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Michael, Yeah, that's what everyone says.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You know. And then he and then he just kind
of kept to himself about the whole you know, the process,
you know, the stuff that he was going through. Well
while he can't you know, Yeah, it was Michael is
a Michael is a fantastic human being. Like his heart
is just pure gold.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, coming from your heart is pure gold. So I
mean with all that, I mean, we're gonna leave it
on that note because we have thoroughly enjoyed having you
and you are a super great guy. And but unfortunately
(33:29):
that is going to do it for this episode. I'm
gonna cry. A Bachelor. I know they go so fast,
but this, this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours, Gold and
Nora has been a fabulous one. Thank you to our
I could use all kinds of adjectives to describe you,
but I'm just going to say, our fabulous guest, Mark,
we love you. We are so happy that you seem
(33:52):
to have found love, and we just are so happy
that you joined us today.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I just want to following your footsteps and just find
my love.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
That'll be perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Thanks so much for being here with us. We love
you and we will definitely be in touch. And thank
you all for listening, and make sure to follow Bachelor
Happy Hours. We have new episodes coming out every week
that you don't want to miss. You're getting to know
all of these people like we do.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Right, and how fabulous are they? Okay, I'm beginning to
sound like a broken record, but at the risk of
cracking the forty five, I'm going to say, you know what,
nobody knows what a forty five is. Accept us old people,
but that's okay. Make sure you submit our question your
questions to us. All you have to do is go
to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or dm us
(34:43):
on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. We really really do
want to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 3 (34:56):
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