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March 28, 2025 47 mins

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back answering your questions! We kick off the episode with a much-needed catch-up. Kathy and Susan give their thoughts on “After the Final Rose”— the love, the drama, and, of course, the big announcement! Will our hosts be beach-bound? Plus, we get into Susan’s new show and the story behind her broken wrist. Then, we dive into all things breakup-related — divorces, losing your first love, you name it! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks
again for tuning in. We're very excited to be back. Kathy.
Are you ready for today?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes? I am.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
But before we get in today's episode, season, we've got
to talk about AFR, Holy spooks.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oho.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Can I just say hometown girl, Newton, Massachusetts?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
One yea, Juliana?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I did you cry? Did you cry? I need
to know, did you cry?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I've been crying since the season began. But here's the
thing I knew, and I think I said last time
this was going to be a horror show at the end.
It always is because there's two left, but the game
it is. But here's the thing. Grant started this whole thing,
uh with everybody he could see everybody has his wife

(00:58):
and the mother of his children.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Following for you, like with twenty two of them are
pretty close, so as it's like the little engine that could.
That engine built steam until it came to AFR. And
you knew that train was going to go down hill
real fast and collide and crash and Lettilla I felt so.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sorry for her?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yes did I? And I think the world is asking
right now. I'm sure all you listeners. One of the
things that she confronted him with was why did you
keep going? Why did you keep telling me it was me?
It was me? It was me. I remember Leslie thinking
it was her, But and then the other side of

(01:43):
me thought, that is the game here, that is the show.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It is the shows. You know, someone's going to get
the harp.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
But here's the thing, like with Leslie, because she's our friend,
we love you, Leslie. If you're listening, there were things
that went on behind the scene that made Leslie think
she was the one, right.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
And I'm sure in this case there was behind the
scenes things too, right, but she was calling him on
from this first date. I have the words that he
spoke to her, and I genuinely believe, I mean, in
my heart of hearts, I believe you can fall in
love with two people at the same time and then
you have to make a choice.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, but do you really believe, you who believes in
fairy tales? Do you really believe that he didn't know
who was going to pick until right before the ceremony.
There's no way, Susan, No ways, it's good editing, it's
good TV.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
No way.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
And now the proof of that is Juliana. When Latilla said, uh,
did how did you know, saying Juliana's gonna have a
lot of questions for you, and Juliana said.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, I don't know about that. Yes, well, you know what,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I'm out a producer and I don't have an insider track.
But I think that's because Grant said things to her
off camera that she knew she was the one, and
she and that's what I believe.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, I'll give you that, And I think, well, I.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Also know we're going to get them both on the
podcast and we're gonna be thrill up. We're going to
put them on two hot seats. But anyway, I thought
my heart broke for Letia, her face, her face, and
when he said, I hope you don't think differently of me,
I do, yes, sir Bob film.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Going back to her saying she doesn't have any questions,
what was your thought when she said that?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
My thought was if things happened behind the scenes that
made her know she was the one, I wouldn't have
any questions either.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, however, that's why.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
However, watching it back though, yeah, watching it back, there
might there might be maybe not there might be disconnect.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
But what I was thinking was what better way I
wish I was that strong of a person. What better
way to start a relationship than letting go of the past.
Obviously you knew there was another woman. Let go. Don't
ask questions me personally, that would be that other voice
in the back of my mind wondering and having a

(04:21):
billion questions. Yeah, I think they're off to a good start.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean they make an ass. They make a cute couple.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
For Shore, they were both you know what his mama saying,
grandmama saying he could see the love, she could see
the love Lettia had that they I mean, that was
all heartbreaking. I still though, I'm focusing on the positive.
They're in love. They they started got a gorgeous timon ring.
Thank you, Neil Lane. I want one of best, Neil,

(04:49):
if you're listening, I want one of these. I think, please,
pretty please. But they are starting out on a really
positive note. They see to love each other, the parents
seem to all get along be happy for them. I
think another positive is Grant has reconnected with his dad.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know we have.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
When I was crying, that's what I answer. You were
you crying? Yeah, they were both tearing up. Grant has
been to hell, especially with his dad, and so that
is remorseful. I mean, he just wants to be a
part of his life. I thought that was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
And I think that Grant. I think those are some
of the positives. You know, people, Oh, it's reality TV.
None of it's true. There was a lot of truth
on that show. And so that's you know, we're done
with the season that there there, he's moving to Massachusetts,
to Boston. I'm just I want to be in the parade.
I want to fly back to Newton. I want to

(05:44):
be in the parade. But they seem happy. They have
a great relations with parents.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
They're going to Italy to make pizza.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
The season's over. We're going to move on everybody, Susan Okay,
first of all.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Wait, wait are we going? Do we get to go?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I don't know, but I'm sending out my emails. I've
already sent them out. Here's my name, my number, my
social Security number.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, what are the dates we're available?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
So I thought it was interesting. I mean, we don't know, right,
I can tell you what we do now. We know
Gary Levingston is going and we know Leslie from our
season is going and and but it was so weird
because when they made the announcement, like I'm wondering, I'm
waiting for my phone ring, like they don't call me?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Did they call you?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I thought no? First thing I thought of, why am
I not there? Why am I not there? Why is
likely there? What's going on to you? Did I not? Yeah?
And did you hear anything?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I said? I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I got my phone on,
you know, on speaker in case I call.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
But here's the thing gonna be exciting.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I wonder there have to be more goldens coming. I
mean that's what Jessie said.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, you can't do a show with two of them.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, come on, well if it were you me,
they could.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well this is true, this is true.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I don't know. I want to know. Did they say
where they're going or anything?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Don't they would never tell us that. But maybe they
didn't call yet because I have a boo boo I don't.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Know speaking up.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Okay, So I'm excited to be excited to be considered.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Hopefully you and I are going to go. We won't
know until.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
We know, but we'll let you know first.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh, you'll hear a screaming, you'll hear announcements.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Wait, Susan, I know you before we get into your
broken wrist and your show. Don't give me this that
you as soon as you saw then announcement. Don't tell
me you weren't going through your resort, closed your summer face.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I pulled out the suitcase. I'm patching. I'd better go.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
All right, let's talk about your show that is coming out.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh that's really exciting. Did you see well? Of course
you send it to you.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I saw it.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I saw so excited and I got to meet Demi
of course, and Claire from from Paradise as well as Bachelor.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
What is the premise? I want to know what's the
premise of the show? Tell me what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
We were locked in a mansion and we were trying
to escape to win a million dollars. There was twenty
of us and I can't tell you. I mean, you
know on our show, Kathy, I was unapologetically Susan, Okay, yeah,
once again, did you make me?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Did you make me?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Of course I did? And that would be the day
that I can't share because it's coming. That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So you had fun you had fun, made new friends.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Fabulous batt I know I want to. I'm sorry, go ahead,
the housewive, Spencer. I mean all kinds of people vow
from Dancing with the Stars. Him and I are like
Bonnie and Clyde. That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Okay, I'm going to ask you did you win a
million bucks?

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I can't tell you that if you did, you're taking
me to Italy a deal.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Listen, you've been doing a lot of traveling, so I'm
going to guess that you might have won a million bucks.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well that I can't wait? And when does it come out?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
To the due April eleventh. They're going to download on
Huloo all eight episodes, so you con binge? What do yeah?
Get THEA and the why.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm really happy for you. I truly cannot wait to
see it. Okake a lot of fun now, I'm assuming
because I saw you after that show that you taped,
even though you wouldn't tell me anything about it to your.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Bestie, That's why we signed NDA.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh right, okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
You were fine, you didn't hurt yourself, but as I
see you now, you have a broken rest.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Tell us about that season?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh yeah. So we were going up in Saint Martin,
up to Ance Marcel. We were going on a hike.
They were going to surf and I was going to film.
And you parked a car here and it takes about
twenty five minutes and the terrain isn't that rough, but
it was. And the water's hitting the rock. It's like
rough ocean.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, stop, you know I'm a big hiker. Please God
tell me you had on hiking boots.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I had sneakers.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Oh Jesus, Okay, okay, that's the beginning of the end
right there.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I was like getting winded, you know me, And I'm like,
oh my god, there's the end. We're almost there. Was
so excited and you stepped down. At this one point,
the bottom of my sneaker hit gravel and slid and
I went to fall back and I went to break
my fall on this giant boulder and sure enough, but
here's the worst part. I had to go back. It

(10:34):
was only twenty five minutes up. It took over an
hour to get back down these steep hills. It took
over an hour with the broken bone to get back.
And he would put the bag and then walk back
and make me stay and help me down a little step,
because God forbid, I fell again. It was horrific. They

(10:54):
took me to a French hospital and I was nervous
about that. Of course, it was two hundred and fifty
dollars was just to walk in. I didn't care. I
need this help. He casted it, told me I was
going to need surgery, a plate and screws. I flew
home two days later after the swelling went down and
had the surgery. And there's this giant plate and four screws,
which is a lot like you two years ago. I

(11:18):
have to do everything.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I don't know, but when you ever, So when Susan
called me from Saint Martin and told me she had
a broken wrist, I knew. I knew what was happening
because I fell, not hiking. I fell playing with my
granddaughter on a sport court and broke my fall the
exact same way. So I said, here's what's going to
happen to you. But as always, Susan has to outdo me.

(11:40):
I have two small screws and one small plate in
my wrist, and.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I have one large plate and for screws.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
So Susan, you win again.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I didn't want to win this one.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I know, but I will tell you it's You're going
to be fine.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
You just have to be careful. It is if anyone
is never so. We both had dislocated bones. That's when
you fall backwards on your wrist. It's almost impossible not
to dislocate a bone, said my surgeon.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Was it your right hand, Kathy?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, No. When I tell you, you and I do the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And I wait, can I just tell you I was
with my at the time five year old granddaughter and
I am scribing in pain, and I've called my children, Susan,
do you think either of my two children, Austin answered
their phone? Of course, not, of course not. Oh no,
that's exactly what we did. After that happened. They put

(12:34):
me on one of those emergency things. So when I
dial them, and they said, please use it sparingly because
it will come to if they're in a meeting. Will
listen you you've had the shot.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Wait. When we got to the destination, of course, he
said to his son, go he wouldn't go surfing, of course,
And I go, no, no, no, I'm not going back.
Just sitting down. They laid towels under a little bit
of a shady part, just so I could sit and
gather my thoughts. I was and I was like, I
don't want to walk back.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Can you get the hellic? After?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's about right?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I couldn't hold on Susan.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
So when she got home, she's calling me from the airport.
This hurts so much. I said, Sweet, You're gonna be okay.
I wish everybody knew the conversations that Susan and I
have had since she broke this risk.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
But the good news is.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Your back, your wrist is healing, and you know you're
you're gonna be fine. You're gonna do some rehab. You
know you have a lot of people who love you
and care about you.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Thank you everyone for sending all the well wishes and
the questions. You we all them. It hurts. You are
well loved. I'm not giving up. Kathy can do it.
I can do it.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
But do you know what you're getting for Christmas from me?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
What?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Hiking boots?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
You got to go hiking with sweet a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Oh, hiking is so much fun. Take a picnic, lunch,
a bottle of wine.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I didn't do that. I think it was oxygotten. They
gave me.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's perfect.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, well, you know what, just take it slow, do
what the doctor says, do the rehabity.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You got a lot of good things coming up in life. Listen,
that's what I was going to say. That's your nation.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Please put up the good vibes for Susan, me Haunt,
whoever you know that send emails, you know, telegrams whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That just showed my next.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
We want Kathy and Susan. We're not watching unless Katy
and Susan. Wait.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I have a question if you go, if we got.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
To be able to do cartwheels.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Oh, I'm sorry, that's why you can't do a cartwheel. Wait,
I want to know bikinis.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's all I wear? Oh god, yes, and I'll have
a chunky belly. Everybody says, start your negativity and put
it in a hat. Okay, I don't want to hear it.
It is what it is. I am sixty eight years
old and I got a little pudge in the middle.
So well, I'm going to be on bigger than what
I did.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's right, you know what.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I yes, I am going to not be Susan. I'm
going to have on the bathing suits from the nineteen forties.
You know, the log sleeves, the long.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Skirt with one hundreds on screen, with hundred screen. That's right, I.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Say, is always on the beach, right, you're asking me,
I've never been those people didn't have air condition I
would never do that.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Well, listen, Gary and Gary Levingston and Leslie, we are
so happy for you. We hope more of the Goldens
will come. We hope that you heal Susan quickly. You're
well on the way. We can't wait for your show.
Got to get out. It's all good, it's all good stuff.
And congratulations again to Juliana and Grant. We wish you

(15:49):
a lifetime of love and happiness.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
And get ready because we're getting you on these podcasts.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
We want to dish. We want the dish, all right.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
So today we're going to be answering more of your
fan questions. Make sure, because we love hearing from you,
that you're submitting your questions and your comments. We love, love, love.
How many times can I say love reading them? All
you got to do is go to Bachelor nation dot
com slash Golden Hour and send us all your thoughts
and wishes and guesses.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Absolutely send us everything, your questions, your updates, and your opinions,
because that's what we're here for. You can also dm
us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay, Susan, yes, you READU gated into this episode because today,
like most great days, we are going to start it
with the question of the day. It's a good one
all ready.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Have you or a close friend of yours ever experienced
a really tough breakup? What was it like and how
did they get past it? Oh, I'm gonna let you
handle this one because we let me say how long
is this podcast? Susan's gonna give us. Oh, I don't know,
five or ten examples of serious breakup.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
She's had to be honest, My most hurtful was when
I was very very young. The part that hurts me
is because I'm usually the one that ends it and
it takes forever because I feel so bad. But what
came to mind was I love you, cousin Donna. Don't
be mad. But when somebody breaks up with Donna, Oh

(17:32):
my goodness.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
She gets upset just.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
To set like you could lock her up and throw
away the key until she feels better. It's unbelievable. She
don't hear you.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
She makes cousin, Donna, I love you. I'll make it
better if it ever happens again. Where we won't rely
on she she can't.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
She wants to know why. I said, Donna, there isn't
a why. It's just unaccepted, cousin to move on.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Oh, I feel so bad, writ it's a letter down.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
And the next time young, you said young because I
will tell you my worst Remember I was married very young.
My worst breakup, and there were very few for me
was my first love in high school and it was
His name was Seth and I just he was just
the love of my life. I I kept breaking up

(18:25):
with him and take me back, and then one time
he didn't, and it just broke my heart.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It really it hurts until kids get hurt. My daughter's
first breakup. Oh my god, I think I went on prozac.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
It was I mean, I think first loves and first
breakups are tough, don't.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
You, Yes, yes, every breakup is tough when one side
is hurt.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, you know, how do you get past it?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
You start dating somebody else or you you you realize
at the end of the day it was for the best,
because that's.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
The time heals all is what I say, And you
have to go through it.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I don't know that it heals all that makes things better.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, you get back to being yourself again. But it's
it's a yucky thing. I don't wish it on anybody.
I mean, if everybody could just agree that they're not
doing great and the relationship you'll still miss it and
you part as friends.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
As friends, yeah, is that a friend?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's Susan tough breakup does not equal ending as friends
by day.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I wish it could be.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, you know, I wish pigs could fly when it happens.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
All right, then let's get into our fan questions. I'm
going to read the first one. Kathy, Ready, Ready, Ready, ready,
all right. This is from anonymous. Hi ladies, I'm about
to file for divorce and I feel like I'm standing
at the top of a massive mountain. What should I
be expecting. We have two kids and have been dealing

(19:59):
with fun, marritable issues for the past four years. We
really can't take it anymore. I just don't love him anymore,
and everything he does bothers me. I don't want to
have my kids grow up in a tumultorious tumultuous and tumultuous.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, guess what nobody should fight for four years in
front of their children. That's what I'm going to say
right off the bat. But what should I prepare myself for?
What should I do if he doesn't react? Well, would
any of it? Oh wait a minute, he doesn't know
you're getting another boy?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, here's the thing she said.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
She also said, we always said that we wait to
divorce if we ever did, until the kids are in college.
But I really can't take it anymore. I just don't
love him anymore and everything he does bothers me. So
she is about to file for divorce from him, and
I'm guessing, ANONYMO that he does not know that you

(21:03):
are filing for divorce.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
What should you prepare yourself for? Lots of legal bills?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Lots you thought the fighting was bad, it's you know,
it's going to come as a huge shock to him
if you file for divorce and he is served with papers.
So my advice to you would be tell him that
you want a divorce and that you're going to file
for divorce. Don't let him be served without him knowing

(21:29):
it's coming. And what should I do? If he doesn't react, well, well,
he's probably not going to react well because guess what.
Divorce is not just about money, but it's always about money.
It's about children and visitation and who gets the house
and the vacation house and the cars, and who's going
to pay the mortgage on the house and how you know,
how much time do you have to go through this list?

(21:50):
So it's going to be really rough. But if you
don't love him and you can't take it anymore, you're
doing the right thing. But I think you need to
talk to him first at it.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
What do you think we should talk to him? And
he may react just fine. You might be as miserable
as she is.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It sounds like they're both pretty miserable.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know, But but you do need to discuss it.
Don't surprise him with papers. Talk to him and say, listen,
I've done a lot of thinking and either one of
us are happy. So how about we get on the
same page and make.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Sure that you work with someone on telling the kids.
You know, kids can survive divorce really well if you
do the divorce and and the you know the follow
up if you do that, well, But you know one
thing I will say to you. Do as I say,
not as my mother did. Do not trash your soon

(22:47):
to be ex husband.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
To your children. It is their.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Father, their dad. Be kind, be kind and let their
Let your children love their dad.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Get divorced. You are yes, sorry, I have to do.
We should luck and yes, if he is on the
same page, it should go smoothly. But I've never seen
a divorce go that smoothly.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Sometimes I've seen a few. For me.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I mean you saw me, Yeah, you saw me jump
into this question because my parents were divorced and it
was like, did you ever see the movie The War
of the Roses hardly remember It's where they're hanging from
the chandeliers fighting they take up They literally that was
my parents.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I mean, it was so bad.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
The kids don't need kids feel that, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
That's what I'm saying. That's why I said keep the
kids out of it. It's just it's not a good thing.
You want your kids to grow up and be healthy
and happy, and you want to move on and find
happiness in your life. So if you get the divorce,
do it the right way and also talking to your husband.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
That man is going to be in your life for
the rest of your life because it's your children's father,
so better to be civil about everything. Yeah, and get
a good bayer.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Okay, we good good luck Anonymous? Okay the question.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
The next question, Carly writes, Hi, Kathy and Susan, I
really need your help. I'm pretty sure my boyfriend is
still hung up on his high school girlfriend, and I
don't know what to do. They were together all through
high school and broke up when they went to college.
We're both twenty seven now, and I never thought an
ex from high school would be a problem, but I

(24:25):
really think it is. He is still in contact with
her via her Instagram dms. I have snooped and I
didn't find anything incriminating, but the amount of times he
reaches out and talks to her is stressing me out.
He saw her at his ten year high school reunion,
and the way he looked at her made me sick
to my stomach. She is single, which really stresses me out.

(24:45):
What do you think I should do?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Ouch? I think there's a little bit of jealousy here,
but he's obviously not over her. In other words, she's thinking,
is that other girl the high school sweetheart said book
I'm ready come back? He would jump and leave her
like a hot potato.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You think he would.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I don't know him. I don't know him. But she's snooping.
He keeps reaching out her. He's looking like a damn fool.
Obviously the woman's not biting.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, how do you know she's not well?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
If he keeps reaching out, she just can't find anything.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
But you don't know that they're not mean. We don't know.
Here's something, Carly.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I know I'm going to sign old fashioned here, but
where there's smoking, where there's.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Smoke, there may be fire.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
If he's why would he be reaching unless well, there's
a few things we don't know. If they live in
the same hometown and everybody's friends with their high school friends,
you know, maybe that's one thing. But I'm not reading
it this way. Ten year high school reunion, chit chatting.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I think you have to have the conversation with him.
But again, Carly, I would phrase the question that you're
feeling insecure, You're feeling.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
How many years ago is it? Kath happened ten high
ten years.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And he's still talking to her.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
So but you know what I'm saying again, I'm big
on not accusing. You can't go in and say to
your husband they are married, right, yeah, they're married. You
can't go oh no, it says boyfriend. Oh I thought
you were married. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean I think
you have to. I think you have to fess up
and say, you know you're feeling insecure. I don't know

(26:29):
how long you've been dating him, but you know how
long you've been dating this guy? Are you going to
get engaged? Are you thinking about marrying him? Or is
it a casual relationship? We don't have enough information here.
How serious is this boyfriend girlfriend? Maybe it's not that serious, Susan,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It doesn't say how long she Carly, you don't. We
don't know how long you've been dating him. Carly, you
need to write us back, tell us how long you've
been dating him. Are you guys living together? Are you
in a committed relationship where you're talking about marriage or
at least forging a life together?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Katy, do you think if she brings it up to
him her suspicions to her feelings, that that would be
a good idea or a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I would bring it up with him, but I would
solve anything. I would put it on me. I would say,
I'm feeling a little insecure. Of course, she'd have to
admit that she's been, you know, looking at her DM.
But you know what she could You could say, hey,
have you been talking to him?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
And if you mean me?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Says her respond then you know. But it would be
how the woman's responding to him. That's how I would
make my decision whether or not I was going to
bring this to surface.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Wait a minute, how the woman's responding to.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Her like he keeps reaching out to her, and what
are the responses from those messages?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Well, again, they could be meeting in purpose. We don't
have enough information, I'm telling you we don't.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
But you have every right to feel like you're feeling,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, for sure. Or you do you do? And if
you do decide to talk to him, Carly, do not
accuse him. Tell him it's how you're feeling.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Don't be susan.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, exactly, tell him how you're feeling and see what
he says. But you know what if he says what
I haven't talked to her in ten years except at
the reunion, will they have your answer? Then you have
your answer, and I would move out and you know,
take all the food in the night sheets with him.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Good all right, good luck, sweetie. Question number three Patty, Yes, hi, ladies.
My son is going through his very first heartbreak and
I don't know how to help him. He's eighteen and
have been with his girlfriend for three years. From what
I understand, they broke up because she doesn't want to
go to the same college as him, and they both

(28:50):
don't think distance will work. It's been about a month
since the breakup and I just can't get him out
of his room. I never had a serious boyfriend until college,
and that breakup was a breeze for me. A story
for another day, lol. So I don't have a lot
of experience with this stuff. What can I say or
do to help him? Thank you so much? Oh God,

(29:12):
I hate I hate it. There's nothing you could do.
Maybe there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I think she can tell him that she's there if
he wants to talk.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I don't think she said that.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I think I think that if he really is, You're
gonna be surprised when I say this, Susan. But Patty,
if you really cannot get your son to come out
of his room. That is cause for worry in my book.
I mean, it's been a month and he is not
coming out of his room.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Means going to school literally, Well, they're going to college.
And you know what, how many college kids know they
break up and they agree to do their things, but
when they're home, they'll get back together to see if
it's as strong as it should. That is what college
is about.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, I'm not arguing with that, and I honestly don't
think that distance, especially at that age, particularly at that
age works. However, you know, I think that you're right.
Going to college is a time for exploration and having
fun and meeting new people. So I don't fault the

(30:23):
girlfriend for breaking up with him.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I mean, no, she's trying to be honest.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, but I do I would be concerned that your son,
who's eighteen has not come out of his room.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I might get some help with that. I mean, I'm
not a therapist again, but if he's been in his
room for a month, he's taking it maybe more harder
than he should, I think.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I mean it's his first one.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Susan, a month in your bedroom, I know that's a
long time.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's a lot time. So what you can do to
help him? Maybe maybe you know, talk to somebody, if
you get one of his friends to come over and
talk to him and see if his friends can help.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I mean, time does heal, I think honestly. But when
she wrote this, it should be about over by now,
like it's it takes time, it has to take its course. Yes,
probably better now. I don't know when she wrote us Patty.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, Patty, you need to let us know what because
is married. Now we're gonna re that.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's worrisome to me and I know we love our
children and we hate to see that our heart's broken.
But Patty, it truly is. It's a it's a write
of passage. It happens to all of us, whether it's
in high school, you know, college, if you if you've
never had a heartbreak, Patty, you're one lucky girl.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah. I want to hear your story, she said, story
for another day call us.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, let us know. We want to hear your story.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It could be anonymous even we don't have to know
it to you, but thank you for writing. You'll keep
them in here. Yeah, all right, then, well today we're
going to play Who's most likely to Kathy, we'll switch

(32:20):
off reading and say, who, between the two of us
is my most likely to do it? Okay, I'll say, sorry,
who's most likely to talk their way out of a
traffic ticket?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Well, I'm just going to answer that question.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Since I've never had one, and Susan just talked to
herself her way out of one, I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Go I cannot. Susan.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
You want to You want to fess up about the
traffic ticket you got recently.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, it was late, I was tired, I had a
pee and I was speeding.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
However, wait, how faust are you going to this?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I don't want to talk about that. It was on
the parkway. I mean, if any just say there was
parkway there? Three ditch okay, three digits? No? No, no,
he clocked me at ninety four.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes, but you told me you were going over all.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
All that He didn't cock me.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
It what Overah?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
So I guess it didn't happen if it was in
the forest and the tree didn't, No one heard the
tree fall.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It didn't.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
It was straight away. Do you know my my bucket list?
It's like to drive the autumn, So I don't get
a ticket.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Like that is my thrill in Germany where else I've
done it.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I've done it, but you didn't go one hundred or more.
I was in a car where they were going to fast.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
You were driving.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
You're damn right. I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But he was a great cop. He was young, he
could have been my son, and he knew I was tired.
He asked where I was going all that stuff, and
then he said, listen, I'm going to write down that
you weren't obeying the traffic sign I mean the signs.
And I go, okay, thank you, okay, just don't give.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Me points, no points on lines, all right. Get caught
going through a partner phone. Have you ever done it, Susan?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, I have to. Yeah, I always catch them going
through mine. Good, knock yourself out. There's nothing not I
don't really care because.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I want to lie with younger kids today. They know
how to have.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Oh they can crack into everything.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
No, but they can. You can hide it. Hide on
my phone, they can hide it.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Let me tell you I found things through it annex Oh, Anthony,
poor little Anthony, Yeah, dirty, oh.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I found stuff when I went through. That was the
beginning to the end of that relationship.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, yeah, go ahead, okay, Oh I am famous Irish
exit at a party? Who wants to do the long goodbyes?
You were ready to go home? Cap that's another twenty
five minutes if you have to think about everybody, and
then you got to hear why are you going?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
So I just go okay, yes or no? Just yes
or no.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Do you always thank the host or hostess at a
party and say good night to them before your Irish accent?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It depends on the party now, not necessarily, Oh, I
always do. I mean most of the time. But if
I'm scooting most of the time, the host, her hostesses
or there's a couple are talking with people and I
don't want to go announce that I'm leaving, all right?
Get scammed online?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Wha, that's Susan, that's you.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Susan's online all the time, shopping. That's why she's going
to get scalled.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That doesn't mean necessarily mean shopping. Like I came to
mind the dating sec Remember I told you the scammers
out there, Kathy, they're not real. They have pictures like
you could kind of tell them. They use the word
m am instead of I am. They'll go, AM doing
this or M going like, are you kidding? I got
scammed when I when I first did it, like years ago,

(35:48):
fifteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Okay, so I was right, all right, accidentally sent a
screenshot to the person they were talking about. Who's more likely,
I know it's you just pass up, you've done it.
I probably yeah, sus I'll say, oh shit, I just
sent to the wrong person.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I'm like, oh, you're getting caught sometimes sending something bad.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, I never say anything that bad, nothing that I
can't say to their face. I mean, I might be embarrassed,
but hey, you should know. I told you the story
about when I went to Italy and one of my clients.
I never wrote in the diary ever, but I used
to have a copy book under my bed when my
boys were going through five years of hell, and I

(36:31):
would write down my thoughts at night just to get
me through. It was my way of therapy. But this client,
I was going to do my Eat Prey Love and
I was going to Italy for fifteen days by myself,
and she gave me like a journal and it was great.
I wrote everything, all my experiences, what I thought of,
what I felt, The train ride from A to B
Long story short. At the end of the fifteen days,

(36:54):
I flew over to Barcelona to meet a girl from
work who wanted to go on the trip with me.
And there was new way I was doing that. But
I'll meet you in Barcelona. And she was very particular
and like, she doesn't like morning. She sleeps in. She's
an only child. You can't get in a cab. She
gets car six. She got to be in the front.

(37:14):
If they have air fresheners, we got to get out.
You can't talk to her in a cab like a lot.
Long story short. I tiptoe in the morningst my teeth,
my bathing suits by the toilet so I could sneak
out of the room so I don't disturb her. I
go have breakfast. I'm having a little cup of gino
and I'm writing. So I see her go to the beach.
I was there about an hour and a half. And

(37:35):
I go down to the beach and my book's sitting
there and I say, hi, Da da, da da. About
forty five minutes in, she was in the water. I
was in the water. She comes out and she goes, oh,
is this your journal? My heart skipped a beat. I go,
mm hmm, do you mind if I randomly just read it?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I go, oh, shit, for god, you said yes, I said.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Not at all. Knock yourself out. She reads the middle,
She opens a random page, read a couple of pages.
She was like, oh my god, you should write. She goes,
I felt everything you described. I could picture it with
the story. I said, listen. She goes to another part
and I'm feeling it coming, Kathy, I know it's coming.

(38:19):
And she's like, I'm serious. And she goes to the
very last page and you had to see the expression.
I'm looking at her. She's like really, and she keeps reading.
It was all about her. And she closes the book
and goes, I'm that bad. I said, I tell the truth.
You're hard to love, but I do it.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
That's a very long winded story.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Congratulations talking about anybody read their diary.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
It's not a diary though I never looked at it.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
My thoughts. Look it up in the dictionary. Diary equals thoughts.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
But you know what, it was the truth, and we
talked about one other truth. Well, then that's what you
get for asking.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
She's cruel people, you think she's kind honest? Oh, my god.
All right, moving right along.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, fell asleep in the middle of an important event?
Oh guilty have you? Yes?

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Okay, I fallen asleep in school and in college before,
but not an important event. Okay, get a tattoo on
a whim. No, no, neither one of us would do that. No,
create a fight profile online just to spy on.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Would you do that with my friends?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I was going to say, I bet you would do that.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yes, hell, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Okay, you're more likely I'm going to go on that.
All right.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
What accidentally start a fire?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And who do you think that would be me?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Problem? More than once? Remember I did it in Saint Martin.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh yeah, but you don't think it would be me
since I don't call, should be in the kitchen? Would
be an accident, though, I'll say I love you first
in a relationship. Susan, Susan and Susan. Yeah, forget someone's
name mid conversation. Daily done that, yeah, daily, daily.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
We both do that. It's called It's called aging. All right.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, I don't know Susan, you
don't even guys.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I want y'all to listen.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Pack way too much for a weekend trip, Susan is
going to weigh on a little quick trip hair.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
A week.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
She doesn't have enoughing, she's got enough for a month,
and she's staying. Oh, I got to take another suitcase.
This girl has to have underwear that match your bras
does your shoes that match your earrings?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Oh my god, it's kill us.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I'd like to have sees. Some people when they pack,
they go, this is for Monday, this is for Tuesday,
this is for Wednesday. Go What if you don't feel
like it? What if you feel like throwing.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
A knucking up like that?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Look look too stalking? Can I just remind you of
two weeks ago that Kathy and I both had to
go buy another suitcase second year and away, by the way,
another suitcase for all the things.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
We excuse me, good friend, who bought a suitcase last year?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You did?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Okay, you bought one this year with you?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Okay? See it's two to one and the only.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Reason I could have fit all mine. But I would
have had to pay one hundred dollars for overweight where
I get two bags free. All I do is pay
the price of the suitcase.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Can you hear Bachelor Nation, they're all crying for you, Susan,
your poor thing, your poor.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
This is why I don't have enough for retirement.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
But that was good, and she looks good. She shops
till she drops.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
If you guys only knew the way she shot up
this time, and she can't blame me. I'm just saying,
alrighty okay, have a secret situation no one knows about.
What's a situationship?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Cat A situation could be a situationship, could be anything.
It could be a relationship with someone. It could be
I robbed a bank and no one knows.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
That could be a situationship.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Well, it could a situation or a relationship. It's just
a thing. It's a I have a secret thing. Let's
say that that no one knows about situation relationship.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I say you, I think you're right, actually because I.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Because well, mine is mostly an open book, but I
do have a few secrets. Oh Jesus, send a risky
text after two classes of wine.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I don't know, Vachel Nation, who do you think on
that one?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Because you know, after two glasses, I am two sheets
to the way because I'm not a good drinker.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
And I've seen Susan do it. I've seen her send Susan,
what are you doing. I'm just sending a little text.
Don't put your phone down. No, no, I'm just going
to send a little text that would be Wait, it
says risky.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
I don't know risky.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
No, Risky just means like, do you.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Want to regret this in the morning?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Fake an emergency to leave a bad date.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I've done it.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I really haven't.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I just not an emergency. I just said, my my,
you know my, I gotta go my kids. You know
what I said? There's you see that bus out there,
It's got my name all over and I got to
catch it.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
How about getting banned from a dating app?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Oh, neither one of us.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Why. I mean, you have to be pretty stupid to
do that. Wow, I've been people, I retorted a lot
of people.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Oh, I of two.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I mean on my Apple phone delete, report junk and
block and report people.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I'm all over it. It's like it's like it's like
a full time job.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I don't know what do you people out there do?
Huh huh?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
True?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
After two glasses of wine, do you send a text
that you may not be happy about the next day?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I mean, I'll guess see most of us, when you
reach a certain age, have done some of these things.
I think many people have Irish exited a party.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
They've got the party, that's like legal, I'm sorry, packing
what going through someone's phone.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Is exiting without saying bye? Irish way is legal in
my book?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well I don't think.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
It's legal.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well I was just saying legal, I mean ethical or legal.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Legal covers everything or not.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Okay, this was too much fun. Thank you all of
our listeners today. We hope you know a little bit
more about how Susan packs for her weekend trips, that
she has enough clothes for a month.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Can I just let an episode? Let me talk to
you about Kathy packing for a trip. It takes forty
five FaceTime calls. She's got to try it on. She
doesn't know how to hold the phone. When she's getting dressed.
I get dizzy. I'm ready to throw up. It's like
get it, get it.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
I I to stand you can I explain to you why?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Because I want to look nice. I don't care if
everything matches. I'm more about going and having the good time.
But I don't want to be embarrassed and have someone say,
what the hell does she.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Have on which I would never let you out of
the room.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Would you let my hair go blonde?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Though probably not? So? Once again that make sure you
follow a Bachelor happy hour, as we have new stuff
coming out every week and I don't know what you
guys this this stuff. Talk to me? Just zip it
for one minute. Let me finish my line. Go ahead, Dathy,

(46:09):
get it out.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I just I just can't like at this point. Do
people that know that we have new episodes coming out.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
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