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April 18, 2025 39 mins

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back answering more of your questions, and the episode is all about the arbitrary rules of dating! We kick off with our question of the day: Do you think the box theory is accurate? Next, we dive into your questions, our listeners want to know: How do I stick it to the guy who ghosted me after so much validation? Can I cut off my now-ex AND best friend after they slept together? We’re answering these and more! Plus, we give some tough love to the toxic daters of the world and we aren’t holding back. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. As always, we are so excited to be
here and spend some time with you.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
How are you doing today, Susan.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, you know those kind of days when you're dealt
with a lot of lemons. I made some big lemonade today,
but I am happy to be here because I'm going
to forget about that day. That's right, and what doesn't
kill you makes you stronger. I hate that when people
say it to me.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh, I know it's so easy to say though, And
you know what, today we're going to be answering more
of your fan questions that get my mind off of
the things that are bothering me today. Hey, make sure
you're submitting because without them, we wouldn't be here. We
love reading them and we love talking about them. Just
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, So we want to make susan day this day
much better. First, so we're going to have a blast
here today. But we do love getting your updates. We
love hearing from you. We need we need information. We
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Batchell Happy Hours. Send us all your information. We're desperate,

(01:14):
we want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay, now let's get into our episode. Let's start, Kathy,
you know our favorite part, the question of the day. Okay,
So do you think the box theory is accurate? The
box theory is when a man meets a woman in
a romantic setting, he automatically and permanently puts her into

(01:38):
one of three boxes to date, to hook up with,
or to have nothing to do with.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
For example, if you're in the hookup box, you can
hold out on sex for as long as possible and
it will not matter. Or if you're in the dating box,
you can sleep with him on the first eight and
it won't matter.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
What.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
How do you know what?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I who wrote this rule?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know, but I do not. I do not
subscribe to the box theory. And no, I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Ultimately, Ultimately, women or men whoever you're talking about, end
up in one of those three boxes. You either end
up dating or just hooking up, or having nothing to
do with the person again. But where I would say
is you don't land in that box on the first meeting.
It takes time.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
When you say or hooking up? Does that mean one
and done?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh god, is that hook?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
We go with vaccination. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
We have to explain forgot its hooking up is not
making out?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Hooking it?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, to you, you just go ahead and make out
and tell when you're hooking up, and they're going to
think you're a hoe.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I was just in nineteen fifty seven. May I remind you.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Get with the time, Susan. Okay, So what do you
think so? I don't think so. I don't think it's accurate.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think women and men ultimately and up in one
of those boxes. But I don't think that you meet
someone that you automatically put them in that.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Box, automatically, permanently. No, I disagree because.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
To you, it's a good day. Wait, it's a good day.
You're like, your day's getting better.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You and I just agreed on something. Oh my god,
let me get my lemonade. We should put some box
in it. I swear, yeah, but that's okay if you insist.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is there really such a thing as called box.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Box theory? I'd never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I mean, you know it's if it isn't, somebody wants
to invent it and it's going to write a book
about it and make buckets of money, so you know,
let's go with it. But no, I mean, I just
I don't think if you're in the dating box you
can sleep with them on the first date and it
won't matter.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I just don't buy that.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I just shout, happen, some people get married when they
do it right.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
No, but the point is you're you're not you're throwing.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
In a red hair in hair, I'm saying, just because
you're in Yeah, you're hooking up.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You could repeated we hook up too.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Then it becomes here I go again with my age,
A friend with benefits?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Do they say that anymore? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
All right, Katy, you're as old as me, if not older. Here,
come on, how about you ladies and gentlemen out there listening.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I think we still have friends with benefits. I think
we do. I think that term sad there.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
But then you're calling that hooking up though.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm going to try this, Well, that's what you're doing,
because there's if you're hooking up with somebody, it's just sex.
It's not a relationship. Okay, it's a sex let me
write that.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
God, you know, Susan, the next time you have a date,
you know what a box I'm not putting you in.
God help me keep her out of the hookup box
because she doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
What it means.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You think you're getting sex with they're really all she's
going to do is want to make out with you.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So what's kissing?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
What box is that?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's it's making it out.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's the making out box or the They needn't found that.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's because that's because it's not a box.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Okay, people out there, if you're under forty, write me,
write me and tell me the rules, because I know
the people over fifteen know.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
What I know.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I'm just saying I told you my daughter, who is
under forty, when I said something like hooking up, and
I like, she was like what Mom? And then and
then so you know that's that's where I get my
education from my children. All right, let's get into our
fan questions here.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Here we go. Please, I'm wonder if it's up for
the box.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Please God let it be okay. The first question is
from anonymous. She says, hi, Kathy and Susan, please explain
the box theory to me.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, she did. She's good, she's really quick.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Does anybody knows?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But she really anonymous, really did say Hi, Kathy and Susan,
I really need your help. I met my now fiance
five years ago when I moved into his apartment building.
After months of flirtatious and wageous say that five times
fast flirtatious exchanges, we ended up, Oh dear God, hooking
up here. It is okay, Susane, they were not making

(06:14):
out cool and this was not making out. I'm just
gonna do a little ad lib here, a little editorializing.
She was not making out. She may have been making out,
but it led to sex.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
We both had a lot going on at the time.
He didn't go into detail. So we put a pin
in our budding romance for a bit and started officially
dating about six weeks later.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Pause pause, put a pin in it? What's a pin?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Oh my god, putting a pin in this means taking
a just gonna put everything on hold for a minute.
Put a pin in it, just like hold, put a
hold on it. Okay, but put a pin. It's just
it's an expression like cooking up. But it doesn't mean
hooking up. It means just putting a hold on things.
And so they put it on their budding romance for
a bit and started officially dating six weeks later. So

(07:00):
they put a pin in it for six weeks, for
six weeks. Okay, all right, all right. Well over this
past weekend, I got a DM from his ex girlfriend
of seven years, who he broke up with and cheated
on with me. I had no idea he was seeing someone,
and now I feel devastated.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh okay, she wants She warned.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
She warned me that if that's how you got him,
that's how you'll lose him. I haven't told him yet.
What do I do? Is he destined to cheat on me?
I have so many questions? Thanks, ladies, What do you
think is? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I totally was in on your story?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Honey? I liked it.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It was romantic, it was exciting, sexy, all of the above.
Now WT sked.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, tell me why, because you can't keep that in.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'd have to say the next time, excuse my expression.
You made him come, I'd say, by the way, I
got something on my mind. Your girlfriend called me, let's
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Wait a minute, hold the fune girlfriend? Why do you
not tell Wait a minute?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Unless I'm misreading this because I got stuck when we
put a pin in it.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Pause.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
When we took that pause, she got a DM from
his ex girlfriend of seven years who we broke up
with and cheated on with me. I'm sorry, where did
she get that information?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Anonymous? Did you get that information from the ex girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
And she said, if that's how you got him, that's
how you lose him.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
No, we don't know that he cheated on her. She's
are you going to take the ex girlfriend's word on this?
I'm going to go and Kathy I like this, Oh,
come on, I.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Give you more. I'm so surprised. Did you get up
on a different side of the bed today. Kathy is like, oh, no,
red flag.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe I was talking up last night and I'm in
a better move.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, you were.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
We were on the phone.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
You were true, true, But you know, thanks a lot,
But for a minute, I might have some you know,
cash with the people here. Okay, I'm saying, she doesn't
know and Susan, the fact is this girl could just
have made it up. We don't know she warned me,

(09:34):
Uh no, what you need to do, sweetheart Anonymous, is
go and talk to your boyfriend and let me just
give you some friendly, good advice here. Don't accuse him,
say I got this really upsetting DM and I don't
know what to do about it. Can we talk about it?
Because if you put him on the defensive and he

(09:55):
thinks that you think he cheated on her, that's gonna
be that's going to be bad for your relationship.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So you remember the story. Yeah, when I moved in
with Mark a few years back and realized it's not
where I need to be, and when I told him
and all that I hired my movers, I was, I
was leaving, but I was still there and I got
the phone call same as this girl that was actually

(10:23):
a d M. Yeah, and all the stuff she had
told me. What do you think he did? Denied at first?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, okay, but so so he could deny.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
So let me I've told you this story. But now
vachs Nation gets here very quickly.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Here.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I had two dates, Susan, you know this whole story
with a guy recently, and I decided he wasn't for me.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Remember, and then remember we came back and that's what
we didn't hook up.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I got a call from a woman I don't know
how she got my number or my email when we
were coming back from Saint Martin, and she said a
million questions and said, well, he said you dated him
for three months, and he said horrible things about you
and your husband.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
None of it was true. None of it was true yet, so.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It could go either way.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
It could go either way. So so.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know, I would say to you, Anonymous, I know
you have questions. I know it probably concerns you. You've
only you don't know that he cheated on you. You've been
dating this card for six weeks. Go to him with
a friendly voice, say I'm disturbed. It's upsetting. Can we
talk about it? See what he says. If he's gonna

(11:41):
cheat on you, you're gonna find it out.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
No, she's her, he's her fiance, Beyonce. They're engaged, right,
No they're not. I met my now fiance five years ago.
My now fiance say they are, Oh.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sorry, sorry, Okay, so they're engaged. But she said his
ex girlfriend of seven years who he broke up with.
So we don't know. We just don't know, Susan. We
don't know. An Anonymous, you don't know either. I'm glad
you're engaged and you do need to get to the
bottom of it. But I wouldn't go to a packet.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
If she's strong enough to just put it behind her
and don't block that woman. That could be just a
jealous woman.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
That's what we are. We singing for the same team here,
paying attention made k I do feel for her, but
it may not be true.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
It may or may not be.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So, So Anonymous, I'm going to say again, your fiance
for five years. I don't know if you have wedding plans,
but if you've been you know, if you've been fianced
for five years, that might be time to tie the knot.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's just another thought.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
But now fiance that she met five years years ago.
But when they did the pause, Kathy, I could write
a whole story about this when they did the pause,
or put the pin in it. To me, that pops
the bubble. But when they did that, he could have
been realizing, I really like this woman. I got to
end it with the other one. That's right, there's Susan's
good look at you, little detectives.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Detective Susan so that's right. There's a lot going on here, Anonymous.
Let us know, we both think you should communicate with
him and tell him your thoughts and your fears, because
you know marriage, marriage is a thing, right, so if
you want to have trust and that's what the backbone
of marriage is, I would go to your fiance and

(13:41):
talk to him and are we in agreement and then
let us know you let us.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Through with it. Call me.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'll come officiate, but i'll question.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, I'm first, thank you for writing it, and Anonymous,
I get an invitation to just saying.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Where I go, she goes, Okay. The next one's from Liliana. Hi, ladies,
I'm fired up and I need your advice. I like
that start. I went on my millionth first date about
six weeks ago. I was loving it from the start.

(14:16):
We met through a mutual friend at a party. He
asked me out and we had a great date a
week later.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
He took me to dinner, asked me lots about myself
and was very receptive to questions, dropped me off at home,
kissed me and said I'm excited to see you again.
I'll text you and then boom o, Cas, what's that
called ghosting. Oh my god, job, I thought you would
say hooking up go ahead. I've even tried to reach

(14:44):
out and just got ghosted. So my question is this,
what do I say to him? I honestly don't care
about dating him. This has really put me off, but
I'm so tired of men doing this shit. So how
do I really pack a punch and let him know
that this was awful? I really want to stick it

(15:06):
to him.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Answer? Can I answer this question? That talk away? Whether
you're head high?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's it would in the newspaper. Give him his name,
his address. No, No, I meant that people get away
with this ship. It happened to me. I didn't get
the kiss or anything. He just didn't show up at all.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
This happened all the time. But Liliana, move on it.
You know you've had a million first date. Go have
your million and one first date.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yourself wants to get the last word in and make
him look and a few words just like really.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
M actually, well I have done it. But I actually
have done it.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
But does it make you feel better?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Not?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Really?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Not really exactly really, Liliana, I know you're you had
such a great time and you really were hoping for more.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
But you know sucks.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, men sucks sometimes and this guy and women at
the Suck Club.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Women do it too. But today I think I'm repeating
myself right now. Today it is so easy to shoot
a text saying I just wasn't feeling it, thank you,
I had a good time. That's you know, it's not
hard people.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, Susan. Another one of our ideas patination. What do
you think, Susan and I want to educate men on
how to have a business?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Let us know, well, right, and Susan's walk away, right,
walk away. You can't stick it to him, you know.
Somebody has to want to be stuck, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
But you know, go stick a pin in it.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Did you ever hear karma?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
You miss that? I heard the pin?

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Karma is it's going to happen to him when he
really likes somebody. That's the only thing that you could
put out to the universe. Put that energy out there.
Not that that's a nice thing to wish it on somebody,
but when people feel the little sting as when they're
putting it out there, when they get to feel it,
maybe they won't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's about the yeah, I just think we only have
so much energy in this world. And and Lelana, don't
waste your energy on him. Go find something better to
do with your time.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
But Kathy, she's had a million first dates. I don't
have that many.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, I mean, let us know, all right, moving on Hollywrights, Hi, ladies,
I'm really upset and I really could use some advice.
I just found out that my boyfriend of three years
cheated on me with my best friend many many times. Wow,

(17:42):
this might be from anonymous, This might be from the
first question. I walked in on them when I got
home a few out.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Get get the bat.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't know who I did first in my bed?
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay, okay, Colly, let me just say you've just raised
Susan's blood pressure.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Let me see if I get through this question a
little bit. Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I walked in on them when I got home a
few hours early from a trip and have just been
in a state of shock. I've broken up with my
boyfriend Will that's a good idea, and I've blocked him
and my best friend on everything. My mom thinks I'm
being way too harsh on my best friend. Oh no, no, no, no,
and that I should at least hear her out since
I had a conversation with my boyfriend. I know it's

(18:30):
not fair to be angrier at the friend versus the boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yes, you can be. It's called girl code.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Sorry I am meditorializing again, but like that's honestly how
I feel. Do you think I'm being too harsh cutting
her off? I haven't spoken to her since seeing them,
and I honestly don't ever want to. Then don't don't absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Let her do not guilt.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Hey, Susan, this is the time for me to tell
you I've hooked up with your most recent boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
We had a great hurt you.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, you know what. It takes two too.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I can't blame just want to hate people that only
blame the other woman or the other man.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
It takes two.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
But here's the thing. Why sucks, But I do believe
in girl code. Your best friend, I mean, how could
you do that to your friend? You know? And you just.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Made me feel yucky inside. I feel for her.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's you do, Holly.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Here's the thing, Go find a new friend because you'll,
in my opinion, and I'm being honest, I love Susan.
Everyone knows we are great friends. But if I were
dating a guy and you cheated on Susan, you cheated
on you know, you went out and I'd never talked
to you again, you'd be we'd be done.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
What's that country song that? That's when she took the
bat to his red pickup tru I don't know, but Susan,
I think you're in both their gas tanks, flash their tip.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
How about a how about a key? I think you
mean to.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Before he cheats, that's what it is, before he cheats,
you're going to do?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
What's I don't know. I'm into the new Blake Shelton's
new song. All my exes are in Texas. That's my
new one. Anyway, it's carry Underwood, I guess not not
like Shelton. Get out there whatever country?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Sorry, sweet sleep tonight.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
What do you mean the people write these questions? I
take them to bed with.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, it's better than other things you could be taken
to bed with you.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
We're backing up.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Okay, this is really getting interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Let us know, Holly, let us know, let us know,
and we feel terrible. Seriously, it's a horrible. We're making jokes,
but it's not funny, it's a horrible thing, he'd to you.
Your mother doesn't get to vote on this. You do
it feels right to you, Holly.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
For one second, what do you think about the mother
saying you're being too harsh on your best friend? Wait
a minute, did mom have an affair at one time?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Or now?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Where does that come from?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Susan wrote detective novels In another life.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
However, I probably would let her talk. I would hear
her out and give her the evil eye and the
maloics while I was there.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
So why you while you're hearing her out? Okay, Susan,
I've I've been sleeping with your boyfriend, and you hear
me out, then what are you going to do? Look
at Beka, Susan just gave me that you are dead
to me.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Look all right, let's move on.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
You find somebody even bigger and better better.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
That's right, all right.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
We are moving on to a little thing that we
call tough love because a lot of a lot of
men and women need a little, you know, advice on
love here. So we're gonna get some advice to those
out there who are not asking for it. That's one
of my special dais. There are so many issues when

(22:08):
it comes to dating. And so you know, we're gonna
set some of you, We're gonna set some of you
straight on this. We're gonna switch off reading these hypothetical
who's and we're gonna give our thoughts on what they
need to hear.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
And this may be my favorite game of all time.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Have you ever done tough love? Have you ever had to.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
With my children? I sure have me too, And yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's the hardest thing I've ever done.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, but you know what I'm not gonna say which
one of my children? Yeah, but that child is a
very admirable.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Human being now today because of it.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yep, it was the hardest. Right here we go.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
What advice or thoughts do you have for men that
pursue women relentlessly only to ghost them after they have sex?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
All right, So.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
If we had this in front of us, that we
had this man in front of us who relentlessly pursues
women and then he goes to them right after sex,
what would you say to him, Susan, Do.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
You really feel good about that?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Really? What you do?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
If you do, I'm amazed. I'm amazed that you have
no conscience. Men that just want sex are straight up today.
It's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Just want That's what I would. That's what I would.
That's I can't believe you took the words out of
my mouth. That's what we're on the page. I would say, Hey,
as long as.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You jump out of an airplane together.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
What do you think? I know we're doing it.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
As long as you say that to the woman, Hey,
I just want to hook up with you and have sex. Uh,
and then I'm out of here. But I'm guessing he
doesn't do that, so he's a pig and I probably
have to say oink oink.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Dick dick or dick dick. I see it gets again.
That's what I would wish. Okay, moving right along. Sorry
about eater.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Susan would high his blue pills. It eva is at
a certain age.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I mean you are weak. Can I just say you
are violent? First?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
It's it's it's cutting off that. It's then it's hitting
them with the bat. I mean, you know you're going
to take out half the population here.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay? What about cheaters's?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I mean, people do make mistakes, but I know I
don't know if I believe once a cheater, always a cheater.
I know people can learn from things. You know what
I would say, I wouldn't want to be in the room.
I'm going to avoid it at all.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I would say no, because you know me, I'm always
more bark than bite. But I would say to a cheater,
you know, there's there's no way for me to say
anything to you that is going to change your behavior,
because this is not the first time. So my wish
for you is the you fall in love with so
deeply with someone and he or she cheats on you.

(25:06):
You know, what goes round comes on. That's what I
would say. Go ahead, here we go.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Men.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh oh, this is a This is appoint men who
complain about the physique of their pregnant formally or formally
pregnant wives.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm borrowing your baseball bat.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Complain.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, like, you know what happened you?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know your boob sag, your butt went flat, your
stomach's big.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Give me the credit card because I'm going to go
fix it all and then I'm going to leave your
ass after you pay for it. How dare you they
get love hands?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm sorry, back it up, Give me the credit card. Yeah,
excuse me?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
No, Yeah, you're not I don't ask for a credit card.
I got one with my name on it. That's get
filled to him. What are you kidding me? No, I
think that is it's disgusting that that is a disgusting
human being. But I've known my ex sister in law
the ones that are dead to me. Now, her asshole
husband had comments to make about her.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I mean, met do this. That's that's terrible my husband.
Did your husband ever do it? I never did.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, I got teased and stuff, but no teased.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Wait a minute, what do you mean you got teased.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
My own father. I had twins in my belly look
like the side of a barn when you stay insideway
shoes andality.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Is that when you were pregnant my hormones. I'm gonna cry.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about Oh yeah, I guess
when you are pregnant. Yeah, okay, Well you know what
my husband used to say jokingly, I thought your boobs
were supposed to stick out further. I mean, I thought
your stomach was supposed to stick out further than your boobs.
Can I just tell you I was a Guernsey cow.
I could have milked the entire state of Texas.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I look like I could feed the state, but hardly
any milk came out. Do you know what I said
to the plastic surgeon when I went to go have
my breast lifted.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
He goes, Susan, what is it I could do for you?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I said, doctor, I don't mind if I don't pass
the pencil test. I don't want to hold the remote
control anymore. You just pick them back up, please.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, Well, we both had boop issues. We both had
breast reductions done.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Moving right along, show me a woman that has had children.
That doesn't I mean it doesn't have a breast reduction. No,
that doesn't have different breast afterwards.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Okay, I mean you know, I mean it's just nature.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
And the man that's going to say something about it,
he's got to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Men who send unsolicited news? Okay, tell me what unsolicited?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Okay, unsolicit means I didn't ask for it. You just
like a pick he sends you a dick pic.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I had those. When I came off the show. I
was like I told you, I was opening my so
many d ms we they hardly get any.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I got four. Two of them were dick pecks. Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Are you kidding? Do you think I'm desperate because I
didn't get Gary?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Wait, Gary didn't send you a dick pecked in? No?
Did you ever reach out to these guys? No?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I blocked them.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Okay, I showed you the one though.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
It's great. Listen, I didn't know if it was real.
Did you get your ruler and measure it double? Like?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh? You know what, Susan dead?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Guys, she took that photo poster and it's hanging on
her bedroom wall exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
You knew where I was going. That's gross. That's gross.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I don't have a problem with when you're with somebody
if they said a little sexy pick, yeah, I like that,
but I want to know it. I mean, you know
it's unsolicited. That's why I said divine.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Along. Yeah, moving right along.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Susan Scott shall have a few more posters up in
her bedroom by next week.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
This time.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Mood of myself before I had a dick pick.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
People who forget their partner's birthday despite being together for years, Oh,
I've got the answer to this.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
There is no excuse. Absolutely put it on the calendar,
put in.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Call your secretary. If you're the guy if they still
have a secretary. That's what you know.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
My dad used to They don't call them that anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Okay, that's what I know, But that's what my dad.
He's called miss personal.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Men who buy women drinks but get upset when they
don't want to spend the whole night with them. That's
the only reason you're by. I don't buy me a
drink and I don't even hardly talk to them.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, but you know what, that's not the point. The
point is what I would say to a man. I
would look him in the eye and say, just because
you bought me a drink or two drinks does not
mean I'm hooking.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Up with you.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Notice Kathy said too she wants to.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
No, actually what the whole bottle? But anyway, I'm just
kidding about that. But I'm saying I would say, guy,
you don't this is not it's not an engraved invitation
to take me home with you or you home with me.
That just because you bought me a drink, you got
my fabulous personality. That was the payment.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You got nice thing to buy somebody a cocktail. That
doesn't mean they owe you anything. You should be doing
it because you want to be nice, make somebody smile,
make somebody feel good.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
OKAYI have you ever bought a man a drink? Yes
I have. I mean that you didn't know, Yes I have.
I've done it once. I never talked to him either.
I just said it over. We did the wave. Okay,
now you and I really are really get back from.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
The bathroom and like to melt my chair. I swear
to god, it was more to fun. But he liked it,
and he kept looking all night and him like, don't
look at me, don't I did not know. That was
me trying to be a big girl and flirt and
you know how women can be. Never again, Oh, that's
really funny that I said it to a guy.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Sendatory to a guy at bar once and he smiled
and he said hello, and that was it and nobody
and sadly there was not another woman that came and
sat down next to him.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
So you went out of the bathroom, Kathy, I was like,
give me the check, I'm getting out here. Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
But to the men, when to the men who do
that and think, I gotta say, no, it is not.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's not hunting season. Just because you bought her a Martini.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
If you want to lie and buy somebody something and
you know what, it is a good gesture. And if
she's interested, yes, you started something. But odds are she's
going to say hey, thanks, yeah, and you know whatever.
People that are afraid of commitment, how do you tell somebody.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
If they're afraid they're a you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, you could ask why why are you afraid of commitment?
Parent issues, mommy issues, daddy issues issues, daddy issues. Maybe
they've been divorced ten times and they don't want to
go down that road again.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
What is commitment?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Commitment means I am committed to you. There's nobody else.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
That's what I see.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
And they're afraid of commitment because they want to leave
that door open.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
But can I just say, I got to be honest
with you. I don't see anything wrong with that. I
think people who know who they are, there's nothing wrong.
Who says you have to commit to someone? I mean,
if you're married, have children.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Afraid to commit? They never commit you?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Saydy?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Say say you're in your late twenties, early thirties, you've
been dating somebody for nine years.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You expect the.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Raceason, do you think I'm dating anybody for nine years.
Let's start there. No, I mean limit, Okay, how about
how about saying get into therapy? I mean I don't know,
I don't know. Okay, go ahead, people, thank you, ma'am.
People forgive people who forgive their partner for cheating but

(33:27):
hate the other woman.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
We just talked about it.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It takes two to tango, it does, I mean, and
you can forgive, but you gotta forgive both of them.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, you won't forget it. And you might have a
secret little thing up in your head.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
But do you think people, I mean, this isn't this
isn't on our list for today. But Susan, honestly, could
you forgive your partner for cheating?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, you said.
The reason I asked the question was you said you
don't forget. I don't not forget. You would never forget.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I think people can forgive, but you're always going to
be on your guard.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
It will put a real stream.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
On the relationship. Yeah, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Go all right, we're not Oh boy, this people? What
about this one? Women who go after their best friends,
crush or X.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
We just talked about that too.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't know. I guess, I guess we are. Let
me ask you this, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
We'll pick Nancy dated somebody for a long time and
it was so five years ago, and now you run
into this man and it's Nancy's X.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
But it was so five years ago.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
And Nancy's moved on, she's happy, she's married, and you
have a little spark between you. Is there something wrong
with that?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I don't think there is.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I do not think there is anything wrong with but
but well, wait a minute, what if before we crushed,
if I say to you, my mind is going so fast, right,
I was about to say something that I might regret
if if I if I met.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Someone that we mutually knew.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, and I said you, hey, Susan, I think I'd
like to have a date with that guy. And then
I heard that you were talking or dating with that guy.
I might be a.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Little the best woman when I don't know?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Would you say that though?

Speaker 3 (35:36):
No? No, probably not. No, I'd suffer inside because I
would feel bad. My friendships are important.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, friendships are really important to me. I know that's
a tough one. Because the ax I wouldn't care about
you can have them. I dumped him years ago, good luck.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
But if you had a crush on him, if I
had a crush on somebody but he was interested in you,
I mean I would be okay if you pursued it
because he wasn't interested in me, be a little, probably
jealous or envious for a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
But I think that's the thing. You have to know.
If the guy has any interest in you.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's pretty genuine. We need a bigger.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Big we need the bigger picture. Actually, the line forms
here behind me. Girl, that's just reminded me.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I don't know why I.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Had had way too much lemonade today. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
There was an emergency at landing when I was a
flight attendant one hundred years ago, and the other flight
attendant said to me, oh my god, what are we
going to do? I said, follow me on the way
out because we had a train how to open the end?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
And she goes, you're going to help them all get out?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I said, hell, no, I'm going to say follow me.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
And now I wonder why you didn't have a long
career as a flight attendant.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Every man for himself.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Susan Knowles was across the runway before the other people
were just trying.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
To find their.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Your head and what do you think, my friend Mary
Joe says to me, because I was senior flating tents,
so I was up front, and that's you go first.
You know, the best place to be is in the
back of the plane. And I'm sitting there looking at
the coffee pods and all the stuff that's going to
fly in my face, and we're about to leave. We
hug each other and this could be it. We don't know,
and she said, good luck. I'm so glad you're seeing

(37:21):
your We were living so hard.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
It was scary. Okay, guys, enough of that.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
You know what, Cat, that was fun, It really was.
I laughed.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
It's almost fun. You're laughing. You're a lemonade is still
in my head though in your head, but you're laughing.
You're laughing. Hope, hopefully our listeners were laughing today with us.
You know this thing.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I hope they know that this is when you and
I are doing these when we're just by ourselves.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
This is what goes on. I mean, this is real
life for us. I was at the gym yesterday, and
this woman came up to me. By the way, her
post did you see her post?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Miss Strong? She makes me feel bad because I'm sitting
you're eating the cheese, think.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I am working out. I am working out. But this
woman who, by the way, is from Philadelphia. She told
me she's from flower something Flower. Yeah, flower Time that
was near you.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Not really, but it's not flower it's not ours.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Anyway, she was from flower Time. And she said, are
you two really friends? Because she goes you two crack
me up? Like is that a put on? I talked
for ten minutes. The way we like, the way we.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Live, the way we love.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Thank you guys for listening, and special thanks for you
guys that wrote this stuff. I really we do take
it seriously. I get shocked. That's some of the things
really these people are going through.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
But that is life.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
It is like, and you know what, to the extent
that we help somebody just laugh, have a brighter day
and put dumping and dump a boyfriend who's cheating on him,
It's all good, okay, when you've got to. If you
enjoyed this one, just be sure to follow Bachelor Happy
Hour because we have new episodes coming out every week.
We know you know this drill. You don't want to

(39:07):
miss him. Hit that follow button, reach out to us.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
You can do it.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
You can dm on bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour.
You know the routine, right dm us on Instagram at
Bachelor Happy Hour.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Okay, we've got to go have some more fun now.
So we hope you all have a great rest of
your day and in the meantime, listen to Bachelor Happy
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Speaker 2 (39:31):
And tell you your dad lemons make lemonade.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Have a great day, everybody,
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