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April 16, 2025 39 mins

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re sitting down with Sarafiena from Grant’s season of “The Bachelor”! We kick off the episode getting into all things Sarafiena, from how she got on the show to experiencing her elimination in real time to her thoughts on the finale and so much more. Then, she helps dish out some advice, starting with our question of the day: Is going through a partner’s phone ever justified? She also helps answer our most-asked questions, like how to find real friends in your youth. Plus, Sarafiena picks Kathy and Susan’s brains on “Paradise” speculation, advice about entering your 30s, and more. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so
much for joining us today. As always, I am so
excited to be with you today, Susan, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I feel the same because we love doing this.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey, make sure you've checked out all our latest episodes
because we have had some great guests, some great questions,
and we love hearing from you.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Do not do not pesco without answering asking us questions.
We love hearing from you. Today. We have I always say,
a very special guest, but she really is. She really
is a special guest. Please welcome from Grant season, Sarah Fina.
Sarah Fina, Welcome to Golden Hour. We're so happy to

(00:53):
have you. How are you today?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Thanks, guys, I'm so excited to be here. I've been
reading all day. I'm glad fans, I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh only you were a man and over sixty, we'd
be so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Honestly, say, she's as beautiful as she was.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'm telling you, thank you. Okay, Seraphina, A few questions.
First of all, Susance, right, you are absolutely stunningly beautiful.
And I got to say this, I think Grant has
had the most gorgeous women, and you're one of them
on his season. The poor guy must have just tortured him.
But you are lovely.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Thank you so much. Now I have to agree this
group of women, I mean every season, but this group
of women just like not only beautiful, but like so
accomplished great jobs, like just like ten out of ten's
across the board, like such great women.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, so I have a question before we get started.
You live in New York City, you said the East Village.
Where are you from originally?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
So, I was actually born in New York and then
my family moved to Connecticut when I was about to
tea and I went to college in New York and
then I moved to New York City maybe two three
years after college. So like, I'm very East Coast, very
in the accent.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Well, I'm actually from the same hometown as Juliana or
the exact same hometown. Did you go to Syracuse?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I did go to Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I do my homework, and yeah, well I grew up
in Boston. And I just want to know, are you
a lacrosse fan because Syracuse has some great Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
No, but I'm a fan of their work.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And I thought about the pizza in New York.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
No, no, no, okay. So one thing, and I said
this on my cri the pizza in New York is
not good. I don't think it's the best. The pizza
is when the pizza in Newlanen in Connecticut is amazing,
like the best pizza.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
They are pretty good pizza in Massachusetts too.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Trust is what I want to know in New York
or in Connecticut where you're saying it's good.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
So there's many variations. There's like a thin cross. There's
also what I'm a really big pizza connoisseur, there's wood
oven pizza. Then there's like really thin slices. Also, if
you're ever in Stanford, Connecticut, there's a place called Quality
Grill and it's very very thin pizza. It's amazing. And
get the hot oil thinated. It's so greasy, like it's

(03:29):
dripping down your hands, Like if it's not dripping on
your hands, like it's not good pizza.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I love it. Okay, one other question before we get started.
I think your name is this beautiful. This is just
the preamble, Seraphina. We're gonna we're gonna get into it.
But where does your name come from? Because it's a
beautiful name so much. Tell me, like, where did that
come from? Parents? Is it a family name?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
No, it's from a movie. It's a movie called Serafina.
It's also Italian, it's Greek, so it has like very
far roots. But yeah, it's like based off of a
movie that my dad saw, and then he picked my
name my sister's name from the same movie.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I guess, what's your sister's name.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
My sister's name is Benta.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
So we all have like very we Yeah, school was hard,
middle hard.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, I'm sure they were like s A R A
F I N A No.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, yeah, it felt very different some of the when
you had to ask the answer the twenty questions I
was reviewing, and it's like, oh my gosh, we mentioned
so many ways.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The Devil Wears problem how many? Yes?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I love that movie.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah so good.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, yeah, I can relate to you.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And of course Mike Gas.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Oh yes, I can quote I can quote the Devil
product like Front to.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Die, all right, that was going to dig in.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm excited, Yeah, excited, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, what was your dating life like prior to the show.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Non existent? I didn't.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I'm telling you Susan. She and I are related.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
We are we are one in the same, non existent.
I hadn't had a boyfriend for six years.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Get out.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah he dumped me?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Uhh, yeah, he's what's his name? What's his name?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I won't say his name.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm want to make his name up, John, You are
not doing him.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
What do you think your experience on that show taught
you about you?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I say this all the time, but I feel like
my ability to be a lot more vulnerable. I feel like,
because I hadn't been in a relationship for so long,
I was so afraid to open up to people and
so afraid to, like, you know, take a chance. And
I think this is the biggest lead to faith. I mean,
you guys know, it's like you like someone, but he
likes twenty four other women. And I was so much

(05:59):
of myself and I shared things that I think a
lot of my friends at home didn't even know about me.
And I'm just so much more open now and so confident.
And then I felt so I feel like I felt
so confident going on to the show, and then after
I just like I gained such a new level of
confidence that I don't even think was possible.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Can I just say I really feel like I felt
that about you, and I think America felt that about you.
You seemed just you know, it's hard to be as
you know, it's hard to be yourself and let loose
and and be your authentic self. But I think you
really did a good job of it.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Thank you so much, I mean so much.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
So what was the most memorable moment for you?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I feel like jumping off the bridge?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
That was okay?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Was that bungee jumping? Right?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I guess, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
What it was? But that was scary.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, so I had people reach out to me and
say that's not jumping, Like so, I don't know, but
I jumped off of I mean, she pushed.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I love it when you said I literally jumped off
a bridge for a guy. I love that. But I
have a question, did you when you jumped off? Like
was your next This is like totally off the subject,
but like was your next stable? Like I would be
so afraid that it didn't.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
I don't even remember, I really don't. I just like,
so we were harnessed together like so I had to
hold on to him and then she pushed us off.
So like people are all like, like, did your heads
bump together? I was like, I don't think so. We
were in helmets too.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
So I think it was fine.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I mean you were in I was so in love.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So were you in love at that point? Wait? Were
you in love at that point?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think it was like there was a lot of adrenaline.
I think, like I say it like jokingly, but yes,
I think there was a lot of adrenaline. I think
I really started to have strong feelings for him at
this point, and I was just like, you know what,
like this is something that I don't think I will
ever do with someone again, or you know in this situation.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
You mean you don't wake up saying you know what,
I think I'll jump off a bridge.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Yeah, with a guy that's like dating exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Let me ask you.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Were you surprised when you didn't get that rose that night?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Was it shocking or did you have a feeling?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
No? I was absolutely shocked, so was I. Yeah. I
think things were going and what I felt were such
like a positive direction. And I had received so much
like affirmation from him leading up to the weeks and
then also just like leading up to going into hometown.
So I maybe you know, people are in my DM
saying you should have known whatever, but in my heart

(08:45):
and I knew what I heard, And I mean, it
is it happened. Everything happens for a reason, but.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
And you believed it.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But let's just touch base for one little mina on
the dms. Don't feel like you're the only one. Yeah,
I mean it's ugly. There's a lot of ugly people
out there, and it's just sad.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah it is. And like that is also something I
learned from the show in terms of confidence. I've also
become just so much stronger because people will tell you
lesson right, so many things about yourself and like who
you are based off of fifteen minutes of like a month,
and it's like, Okay, I'm so sorry that you caught
me at my worst moment after I'm like tired and

(09:27):
hungry and stress. And imagine being in a situation where
you really like someone and he's getting other people, like,
please tell me that you would you would have moments
where you're a little bit cranky, Like really.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Susan and I say all the time, Seraphina, we knew
pretty early on that Gary wasn't our guy there were buddy.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You know, we were friends.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I'm saying we were in the friend zone really quickly.
So it allowed us to really be ourselves, have fun
with each other. You know, you weren't in that situation,
but when you were standing there, so I kind of
knew I was going home, like, yeah, I'd run.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kay. Me and Nancy we thought we were all right.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So when you went, when you were standing there at
the roast ceremony, literally, what was going through your mind?
Were you like, I've got this on what was going
through your head?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Okay, So we were in a castle in Scotland and
we so for many people who don't know, it's like
when you have rose ceremonies, like you kind of stay
there for a little bit. You stand there.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So yeah, it's long.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
And it's like it's so cold because it was night
and I think it was like it was like maybe
like thirty degrees. You know, I have no sleeves. So
I'm just like, oh, like I can't wait to get
my rose. I can just go back to bed. I
was like, oh, I had laundry. I was like, I'm
going to do my laundry in the morning. I also
like I didn't do my nail so I usually have

(10:49):
my nails sent for every row ceremony. I didn't have
nails on. I was like, I'll just do it like
right before I go to my hometowl and like whatever
I was so is breaking. I'm so in.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Mind when you didn't get it, like were you? Oh God,
I gotta walk up there, I gotta say goodbye.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
And I was just like, so, it's a feeling where
you can't explain. I felt like my bubble popped. I
was like, oh, okay, I'm going home, but like not
in the way that I thought I was. So, yeah,
that was really hard. It's an it's a surreal moment,
Like I had no idea, no idea at all.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
How have things been for you since the show?

Speaker 4 (11:35):
So good? Like I just came off for a trip
with a few of the girls, Priess and I. It
was her birthday a week ago. We went to Miami.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Who else was there?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Was there Miami? It was me, Prisa Kelsey and then
Ali Joe. I know you guys met with Ali Joe
also and love then love love, love love, And then
I feel like Ali Joe's such your vibe, Like I'm
sure you have the best time.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, girl, were the.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Click and then we so in the same breath. We
went to La for Afar, and then Priest and I
then went to Chicago to see Dina, and then Latia
was also there, so like a really big girl's beak.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
So wait, I love this because Susan and I, Susan,
Nancy and I are really good friends, and Joan and
Less like there's a group of us that we really love.
But it sounds like your group is even bigger. Who
are your more girls?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
So I would say, uh, Letia, Dina, Prisa, I love Bailey,
I love Zoe, I've grown to love Ali Joe. We
just like kind of connected more in La and then
then Miami, Like just like so I feel like I
can go down the list. I feel like with every
single girl I can like there's something that I would say,
like the people that I talk to mainly every day

(12:57):
or like those girls.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh it's don't you love the friendships? Like did you
ever expect that?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
No? I did not expect to click with so many girls. Oh.
Also Alicia, I loved her since day one. She was
like also a girl that like I connected with day one.
I just I love that thank a lot.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Of courage when you're accept it, Okay, I'm going on
the show. I know nobody yeah yeah with the outside
world and in your mind that first night is like whoa.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, and then those girls like just become your family.
It was like, I'm sure you guys know. It's like
when you're in the house, you're like, where's Alicia? I
need to see. Like it's just like you get breakfast, yeat,
and you wake up together, you go to sleep together,
like the group dates are honestly like oh yeah, grand stare.
I know that that's bad, but it's like, oh yeah, great,
come on.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You have any regrets, anything, what you've done that you
would have changed from the show, anything that you wish
you could take back.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Nothing like even.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I swear to god, it's the Northeast thing. We are
who we are. We don't regret who we are. We
don't explain who we are. You just see what you
see is what you get right exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
And I think that's the main thing. It's like I
said this the other day, it was like I feel
like people don't get East Coast humor like banter.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I live in Austin, Texas, where everybody is so southern
and hell did she come from? So trust me? I
need to move back to the Northeast. Okay, wait, I
am a really important.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Damn Yankees, damn ye.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay, would you go on that shore in Paradise?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I would? I am not like I don't have a boyfriend,
but I would go for one person?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yes, who still still Tea.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I can't tell you, guys. I feel like I want
to keep it a secret for now. I'll tell you guys, like.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Okay, yes, listen, if we get to go, we don't
know we can make it happen.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
We need to like all link up together.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I can so each other.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
We haven't been invited yet, so if it is the case,
you need to tell us, we'll make sure he's there.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Okay, perfect? Perfect?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh no, Susan, you and I, you and I can
make this happen. We're gonna make it happen for you,
Sarah Fava, you deserve it.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
No, I want a redemption. I want to find my love.
I want this to be a good excuse.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Okay, wait, can I just say I'm older than you,
so get in line behind me. I want the same thing.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
We'll help each other. We'll help each other.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Date since the show.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I've been on dates. Yeah, I've been.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Did you get a lot of dms?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
No? I did not get a lot of dms. I
get damn from like college girls like love you guys
like where are like the athletes? Where? Like where are
the business Like I want those yems.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You know, New York is a hard place to meet men.
You know that. My daughter used to work in New
York and she left because she said, and you know,
she's happily married now, but she said it was really
hard to get men that were serious about dating in
New York.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah. There was an article that was like New York
is the toughest place to date in the country. Yeah,
number one, worst place.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well you can add you can add fan Francisco Virginia.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Regarding the show again, what.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Is your take in a word or a sentence or
two of the finale?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Oh my god, I was just going to ask for that. No,
that's exactly what I tell us.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Jaw dropping is what I will say about the finale.
I Meandia is like Latire's my girl, Like everyone will
know that. But I also love Juliana. I think it's like, yeah,
I think it's twofold. It's like what the internet is like.
And this goes back to social media. It's like we
need to like lift we can lift someone up without

(16:47):
knocking someone down.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Wait say that again. Say that again for everyone to hear.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
We can lift someone up without knocking someone down. We
can always root for Letia.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
But yeah, it's for that clapping for that.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
It doesn't mean that we you know, like down. I'm
kind of make it appropriate, but like, you know, go
down on a relationship that is Juliana and Grant. You
know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, we can still be
I am like Lysia's number one fan. I'm such a
big supporter of her, but I will never say anything

(17:21):
bad about Juliana and her relationship.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
She's adorable.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
But for me watching the show and following, we thought
it was like.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, I mean obviously, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Julianna is always a front runner in my eyes because
I loved her, But I really thought and I was
a little bit shocked.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I think a lot of people were shocked, and like
I'm trying to you know, but I think a lot
of people were shocked.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I have to say, And
I've said a million times in compatriinations. Sick of hearing
it like I was always for Juliana just because we're
from the same hometown in Massachusetts. Haven't said that. We
all know that the way you get an edit and
what goes on behind the scenes, right as viewers, we

(18:05):
only see what they want us to see. And so
you and I and Susan, we all know there's lots
of conversations off camera. There's lots of things that happen, right, Yeah,
And I really feel like I should be so lucky
to have two men in love with me at the
same time.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
But honestly, I'll.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Take one, but I think it's You're absolutely right, they're
both lovely girls. But you're all lovely girls. You are women,
not girls. You're women, and you all deserve love.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And it is part of the shoe.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
You will find it, Yeah, we will find it. And
then one thing I want is sand Latia piece for
just like anyone that's saying anything about her about the
way that she handled things. First of all, she handled
things perfectly. She shood up for herself, and then she
also spoke her mind, as hurt as she was and
as blindsided just she was in that moment. I've never
seen someone articulate themselves and their feelings so beautifully.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
And gracefully and gracefully.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
And I would love to see it if like you
felt validated the entire time, and you felt so confident
going into an engagement, I would love to see how
you handle that situation. Anything say anything about her online?
Please put yourself in your hurt right, Oh.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
God, I'm snapping against about me in a bikini.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Put them in that heat.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, Sapina, Let me just say I have to. I've
said this, you know, we've interviewed some of the women
from from Grant season. I don't know if it's just
that I'm getting old and sappy or what the hell
is going on here, but I am and I'm being
honest because people who know me know I'm Northeastern. What
I think I am blown away and by your maturity,

(19:48):
your gracefulness, your understanding, your empathy of what other women
have gone through, it is it just is so heartwarming
to see women who have grown up in a very
different time than Susan and I grew up just having
this amazing ability to understand.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Not only that, the way you handle the hard parts.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Thank you both to the person and you let her
know what was happening in your world.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You know what I mean. This is nice see but
you did it, very nice, very.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Thank you so much, guys. That means so much. Yeah.
I think like it's so important to understand that we,
at the end of the day, are not characters on
a television show. We are real human beings and like
we're going through emotions and we're putting ourselves out there
for your entertainment. So it's like, have grace.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
But that's the thing, that's the thing for me, Saraphena
who said it. On the one hand, we are there
for entertainment and on the other hand, we are real
people with real emotions, and both can be true at
the same time.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Exactly, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I have a funny question now because because I
just Okay, so people compare you a lot to charity
and think you I want to hear what's the dal
what tell me about that?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
And we love and I love her. So we took
a video we like we. Katie Bigger also took an
Instagram story and so many dms of everyone being like,
you guys look like twins. And I've I've heard it
like before I went on the show during the show,
like it's a complied it is.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, it's a compliment to both of you. Wait, it's
a compliment to both of you because you're both equally beautiful.
How tall are you, Sarafina, I'm so you're okay. So
Charity is a lot shorter, I know, and and Charity
and I did, uh we am ceed Teresa and Gary's

(21:45):
wedding along with Jesse Palmer and they oh no, when
they were iconic in that when they said you're going
to do it with Charity, I said, and I didn't
know Charity very well at the time, and I went,
you mean that tiny, gorgeous thing, you're gonna make me
stand next door pocket? Yeah exactly. I mean like I'm
almost five eight and she's like, you know, four six.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, do you remember going to Dancing with the
Stars when she was performing and we got the huger.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I said, oh my god, I feel like I'm going
to break her.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I was like, I didn't realize how tiny she was.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, Well, just I mean, it's a compliment. Let me
just say to both of you, because you're you're both
absolutely stunningly beautiful women.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Much I love you, guy, this is so fun.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
We have what we call the question of the Day,
and then we have some advice and we'd like you
to give your point of view.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Right go with the question of the day is goday is.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Do you think going through someone's phone is ever justified?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
And why or why not?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
No, I don't going I don't think going through someone's
phone has ever justified. I always say, like, first of all,
if you are dating someone that you feel like you
have to go through their phone, like that's something someone
that you should not be dating on what. Yeah, Like,
I don't think I've ever gone through a boyfriend's phone
because I felt like I've never had to, So yeah,

(23:21):
I would say, don't go through their phone. I don't
want anyone going through mygphone. But I don't have anything
to side, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Have you ever gone through a phone gap?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yep, one time. I will tell you only one time.
And he gave me reason to believe that there was
something going on. We were on a trip and I
said he said something. Anyway, he gotten in the shower
and I picked up his phone and there were all

(23:51):
these messages on a dating app and I didn't say
thing to him at the time, but that was the Well,
actually I did when we got home and he said, well,
they reached out to me. I didn't him, and and
that to me was the beginning of the end. I
mean I broke up with him, like, you know, a
few weeks later, but I just felt it. And I

(24:11):
guess what I would say is, if you feel it,
you really don't need to confirm that.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You remember, I was married out of the cradle, so
I didn't know this.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Was And when you do it and see it, it's like, yeah, yeah,
why hurt your own feelings.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Just you know, show them the door and move on.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, what about you, Susan, have you done it?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I definitely have and for good reason.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
And that was exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
These are some of the most commonly asked questions, and
we want to know your advice for our listeners.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'll start with the first one.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
For women that suspect their partner is cheating.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
For women who suspect their partner's cheat, if you have
that inclination, he probably is. But like advice, like what
they should do, I would probably say, confront them, like
if you really feel in your heart, like there's nothing
more than a woman's intuition. So it's like, if you
feel that way, confront them and never say if he

(25:19):
is cheating is what I will never want never say because.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I interesting, Yeah, you would not forgive a cheater.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I would not forgive a cheater because it's just like
going down the line, I feel like I would continue
to feel more insecure. I would be like, Okay, well
is he still cheating? Like is he still seem like yeah?
It just like I wouldn't feel good in my heart.
And I'm so big on like a love story and
like when I have children, I want my children to
know like this was the most secure relationship I've ever

(25:47):
been in my life. And like, I just you know,
I don't know. I don't know if I feel good
being like, yeah, you're bad cheated when we were fifteen.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, it's so so even if you had kids and
you found it you cheated on you. Once he's out
the door, Oh, if.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
We have kids, I feel like it's a little bit different.
But yeah, I think the kids would definitely change things.
And I would be like yeah, yeah, but I would
say at my age now, I don't think I would
just like I don't think I would continue your boyfriend
as a cheater.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, and good for you.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You made a statement Seraphina that if you think they
usually are, but they're such insecure women that will think
the worst and they're really not.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So yeah, you know, small percentage.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, if you're feeling something, you got to look into it.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
A thousand percent, I would say, always just you know,
do your digging all right?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, how about advice for this for friends that really
disliked their best friends boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Friends that dislike their best friend's boyfriend. Like if I
were the friend and I hated my best friend's boyfriends. Oh,
I've been in that position so many times. Yeah. The
thing is, it's like I'm a very much like if
you like it, I love it kind of person. Like
if you love this man and like he is good
to you, like, go for it, like I will never

(27:10):
stop it. But if he's a bad person to everyone,
including you, like you need to dump him, because like
you're telling your friend that, yes, I would say if
he is like if he is a terrible person to her,
I will one thousand percent say like this is not
the person for you, Like you need, you need and
you deserve so much better. But if it's just like
you know I don't like him in terms of like

(27:31):
like I don't like the way he's the two dresses,
or like something bugs me, Like you know what, go
for it, like that's your man, Like yeah, I don't
have to live with him.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay about for young girls that are trying to figure
out who their real friends.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Are, Oh, go so hard.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's how.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Wait, that's just called growing day. Yes, you kind of advice,
aftere no.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
And I've learned so much through life, and I would say,
like even I have gained lifelong friends from girls I've
known for two months from the show, and it's in
comparison as my friends that I've known for fifteen years.
It's the friends that like if you call them at
three in the morning, they won't answer and be there
in a second. Like those are like the kind of
friendships I value so much. And like girls you can

(28:24):
like pick up the phone with talk through anything I say,
Like sometimes they're like, oh, they're friends for different reasons,
and like I don't have close friends for different reasons.
I have friends that like I go out with them,
I call them. I have friends that I breathe on
the phone with, like we have nothing to say, but
we're just like we're on the phone, just breathing next
to each other. And yes, and like you as you mature.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Except your phone off that night. But go ahead, sir.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Really you know you're side. But as you mature, you
really weed out who are good good friends? Like very easily. Yeah,
you don't need fifteen friends. You can have three really
good friends.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
And you can yeah I know a million acquaintances they
call friends, but you can yet real friends on the hands.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yes, yes, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Wow, all right, how about this one for young people
trying to date but they keep falling in a rut,
into a rut you know. Yeah, that's called let me
let me simplify that. Old people young people exactly, young people,
old people dating the same kind of person, looking for

(29:32):
all the wrong people in all the wrong places.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I've been there, that was me twenty two to like yesterday,
I'm getting No, I have been there where it was
like I would go on dates with people and the
next day like they just wouldn't call me back, or
like you know, they just weren't looking for relationship, they
weren't serious about something. It goes back to like as
you grow up and as you mature, you don't give up, Like,

(30:00):
never give up on trying to find someone. You're going
to have to go through his bad dates to figure
out exactly what you want.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
How many bad dates? How many?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Oh, you're going to go through like hundreds, Like yeah,
you're going to go through so many. And like some
people are lucky, like they go on one like hinge
date and then the son.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah I know people like that.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah, but like I yes, And what I will say
is that, like I like that I've been on so
many dates because one, I have so many funny stories
to like tell people. And too it's like, you know what,
I had fun. I went to dinner with a guy.
I laughed. I can entertain. I'm the date sometimes like
I have fun. I'm laughing, I'm having.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
And you know what that's important?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, and I have a.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Free dinner whatever, like I didn't have food to my friends.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I love it all right. We we have gotten to
know you a little better. That's your nation has gotten
to know you a little better. But now we want
to open the floor up to you. Do you have
any questions for us, advice for us? What do you?
You know? This is your time, so you know us.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You don't know us, but you know.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, Well, who do you guys want to see on
the beach if you were.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
To go.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
The guy that you want.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
That you want. No, we're not going to fa the guy.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Wait, stop, stop the presses right now. If I am
lucky enough to go on the beach, let me assure
you I am not going for anyone who is the
age of my children. Let's just be clear. Okay, you
never know, you never Oh no, trust me, I know
there is Wait, Seraphina, there's three things in life you

(31:39):
can count on death taxes, and I never will date
anyone younger than my children. Okay, we got that done. Good.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
It's so funny that.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Any other questions, like because we don't have one for that.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
We don't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
I would say, what advice do you guys have for me?
I feel like it? It is hard, especially like when
you I'm reaching like a milestone birthday coming up, and
it is a little bit scary because a lot of
my friends are married or engaged, and like, how do
you feel like you're not falling behind in life?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
You're not in the same moment as them, that's all.
And this young lady, your world just started. Yeah, when
you turn thirty, something happens. I believe inside of us,
that's where you're confidence, and you're educated, and you have
life experiences better than most people walk in because you

(32:38):
know how many women were on that show. Yeah, you
got to know you. You know who you are, and you
should be proud.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Of who you are.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah. I think that's great advice. My advice to you, Saraphina,
and I gave this to all three of my children. Yeah,
do the things that you love, the activities, whatever it is.
Build yourself. Make yourself a strong, competent, interesting, lovable, which
you are. Do all those things that you love, and

(33:07):
the right people will come into your life.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I've been realizing that it's like one of myself. I
am the batter people are coming into my life.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I get it when I was your age when thinking back,
like oh my god, if I'm thirty, I need to
start a family. But there is no special age, and
you find usually find somebody when you're least expecting.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I know you said that it's hard.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
We argue about this. I don't know that I buy.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
That hard no, but I do. I do believe that
because so many of my friends they're like they've been
in ruts and like they are just like I give
up on dating and then like someone just comes in
and it does happen. I do believe that.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, I'm still waiting, so you know, let me go
open my door so I can get in easier wall.
Do you think it's tough to date in New York
because my daughter who met her husband when she was
thirty one, I think and the same thing. She was like,
what's wrong with me and my daughters? As pretty as
you are and successful in all those things, but she

(34:07):
just hadn't met the right guy. And you know, she
said New York. She was living in New York at
the time, working. She said, Mom, it's impossible here because
even if you're on a date and the guy likes you,
he's like like a mosquito, you know, he's looking at
the person that the next person that walks by going, oh,
you know, I'm in the candy store. I mean, do

(34:28):
you find that to be true?

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yes, I think it's really hard to day in New
York because I think there are just so many more options.
It's like you meet people who, yeah, it's like work.
There's like dating apps, there's happy hours, there's events, like
it's just like it's a pool for them. So it's like,
and you know, it's not just guys, it's girls too,
but I feel like it definitely is a little bit

(34:50):
more of the men. Yeah, it's really really hard.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Would you ask a man out, Seraphina? Would you ask
a guy?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I have not met a guy that I wanted to
ask out in a while, but I would ask the guy, Am, Yes,
I will.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Who do we know that we can hook her up with?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Well, I think she's on the right road and the
goodness is going to come to her. I hope knowing
yourself and love yourself be happy within. Yeah, and so
many people make the wrong choices thinking they're okay he
is and they end up divorced or you know, wasting
years that life realizing you're not the one, You're not

(35:26):
my person.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I do think positive attracts positive. I really, you know
people say that to.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Me, Kathy. I love what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I do people. I've that's one thing that I always
have been positive. But you know, I went through a
tough time when my husband died. But I've realized that
if you put out that positive vibe more positivity comes.
Oh I hate that question. I hate that expression.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's what you're saying. I mean, I've been preaching it
so since day I metver.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Just yeah, whatever, you know who's with the guy and
who is and give me a break.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
But that's not necessarily the end all.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
But you know what, great I love you get that
invite right to us.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, listen, trust we you know we if we get
to go like, we don't want to sit there and say, now,
let let us tell you what you need to do
to get the guy. However, you tell me who you
want and I'll club him if he doesn't ask you why.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
That's so happy?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You know, any guy with a brain in his head, Well,
Grant has a brain in his head. I'm just saying,
you are a lovely person the right guys you know,
and you're you're a successful, smart woman. Revel in that.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Thank you. Yeah, I feel good things coming for me
this year. I'm like, very positive about it.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yes, number the three so definitely going to be a
good Yes?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
What wait what I like odd numbers? Three, five seventy nine.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Well, I'm so glad that you like odd numbers. What
does that have to do with our good life for coming.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Because thirty three.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
That just means her good life is coming.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, it's about her today, gaes.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Three, I'm lost. Are you talking about the three of us? Looked?
I thought she was talking about twenty twenty five? What
are you? Okay, Susan here we like.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
That as well.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Okay, yeah, everything going for your baby?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
All right, Well, Sarah, if I show up at Paradise,
you'll know me. I'll be the girl in the very
large one piece bathing suits.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm so say it is you know what.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
We really really love getting to know you and I
can't wait to get to know more.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
And wait, can we just give a shout out to
her mom?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
We want to call us leader and tell us who
this guy is.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well, I'll message you, guys, I'll send you pictures and mom.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, your mom, Velma listen, Velma, if you're listening, which
I hope you are, you did a great job with
this girl. She's beautiful, smart and on My hat is
off to you.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
She's gonna love to hear that. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, we love getting to chat with you. We thank you,
and we thank our audience for listening to us, all
of our listeners, be sure please follow Bachelor Happy Hour
if you enjoyed today with Sarah Fina. We've got a
lot of other great episodes coming out that come out
every week. You don't want to miss them. But you
gotta follow us.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, and submit your questions because that's what we talk
about when we have our special guests, and even when
we don't have guests, we give advice good or bad.
But the best part is when you guys send us
back information on what you did and how it came out.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
How do they do it, Susan, how do they send
us comments and question.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The Bachelor Nation dot com slash Golden Hour or you
can damn us on Instagram at Bachelor.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Happy Okay, all I have to say is if we
get to go to Paradise, think think of the questions
and the comments that will be coming our way, and
it'll be worth the ticket if I have to pay
for it myself. In the meantime. In the meantime, till
it happens or doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
If we're not invited, we're crashing it.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, Serafina, we're gonna I know you're gonna have to
we're gonna give you our phone numbers, you're gonna tell
us where and when you are, and we're gonna be
there right in the meantime till we find out where
Sarapena is going to be. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours
Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you listen
to podcasts. Until next time, have a great week.
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