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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Black Information Network Daily podcast, and I'm
your host, Rams's Jah. And sometimes the amount of stories
that make their way to us means that we simply
can't cover everything that comes our way. But from time
to time, a story just stays with me and Bill
compelled to share it with you and give you my thoughts.
And now one more thing. I know that I've said
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that we are going to do our best to not
talk about Kanye West, and is nonsense. I personally have
probably made stronger claims than that, even But media is
a funny thing because the nature of the job is
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to cover the goings on in the cultural zeitgeist. While
Kanye West is still relevant, for better or worse, he
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can do things that will compel us to step forward
to either cover it as news, to condemn it, or
I think that's really it, that's probably the short list
that he's on. Now we will, and I'll speak for
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both of us, now, we will renew our commitment to
you know, covering the news and you know, being as
fair as we possibly can be. I think that we've
been more than fair about this particular topic. But again,
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it comes with the territory. You know, this is the
black information now work. Kanye West is a black megastar,
and when he is sucking up all the oxygen in
the culture because of his antics or because of whatever
his brilliance or pick a thing, we have to cover it.
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So I'm going to share recent story from Complex Magazine.
He wears KKK stylhood while admitting to Kendrick jealousy, Drake
is a million times better Kendrick and Yeay's eyes also
has no hits. The artist formerly known as Kanye West,
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had more to say about Kendrick Lamarin Drake in an
interview with Academics during which he wore a black klu
klux Klan style attire, reading the streamer at the door
in a Sean John T shirt and a swastika chain.
The interview, which was posted to rumble an x over
the weekend, comes after a slew of preposterous Nazism focused
social media updates from Yay, but one point in Kendrick
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and Drake's twenty twenty four dominating feud appeared to take
his previous tour partner's side. Why do they want somebody
with no hits like Kendrick to do the Super bowlote Yay,
who earlier this year, wrote both I'm a Nazi and
after further reflection, I've come to the realization that I'm
not a Nazi. On the Elon Musk headed cesspool once
known as Twitter asked academics. In the newly released interview,
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later Ak asked Yay to define the real thing between
him and Drake, noting he was confused by what has
transpired over the years. Quote it's like family members that
you don't f with. Yay said, one thing is Drake
is a million times better than Kendrick and a million
times more important. From there, Yea seemingly argued that Kendrick's
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twenty twenty two albums Around the Big Steppers is a
direct copy of his own The Life of Pabo from
twenty sixteen. He later asserted, while still in the KKK style, Okay,
you know, I'm done with this article. Suffice it to
say that Kanye West goes on long rants about how
he shouldn't have had kids with Kim Kardashian. It says
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that he's evil because of you know, he was asked
about why he was speaking bad about Virgil Ablow after
his passion. You know, when that's just kind of not
really necessary. He's not around to defend himself for state
his brief head on and on all kinds of muck. Okay,
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any early thoughts here.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Que Finally back in the studio, starting my day by
listening to Kendrick's new album Nice. Thank you for the
music and the messaging. Kendrick is an inspiration. Thank you
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you for the vibrations and the spirit, your meaning, message, execution,
our gifts to the world. Those are quotes from Kanye West.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
When when his name came up today, I was a
bit surprised. I didn't I did not see that coming.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Because we weren't supposed to come back down this road.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I was completely fine with the we don't talk about
him anymore that I thought we made uh and complex
calling that a KKK styled No, he hasn't a Klan robe.
Why do we have to dance around things he has
a swastika necklace on and a klu Klux Klan robe.
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H He's declared himself a Nazi, so why do we
have to soft foot and dance around what he's proclaimed
to be. We're not hurling accusations at him. He's screaming
to us to not just pay attention to him, but
the note, but to note that he is a part
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of multiple hate groups, most of which hate almost specifically
black people. So you know, I pointed out the contradiction
because we can all contradict ourselves. You know, once upon
a time I thought very highly of mister West, and
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I missed doctor West, even though I never knew her.
But when you watch footage of him from when she
was alive, and footage of her with him encouraging, inspiring, teaching, protecting,
nurturing her child, being his biggest cheerleader and supporter, when
he convinced most of us that he was a brilliant creator,
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I think she would be thoroughly disappointed. And the version
of her son that all of us get to experience today, he.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Clearly wants attention. There is no flo We just got
through talking about how this guy was calling Jay Z
and Beyonce's kids whatever on top of just so much monck.
And it doesn't matter what he says, doesn't matter. There's
always going to be people that are going to just
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watch the freak show. And then, of course the forces
that caused the media machine to move also force us
to move, particularly when it comes to black media. Of course,
I'm going to do something because it's a part of
the job. I'm going to and forgive me in advance,
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but I'm going to reluctantly dignify Kanye West's stance, or
at least one of his stances. I'm not going to
sit there and watch this black man make a fool
of himself and provide cover to all of the you know,
lifelong Nazis and you know that are that are white
and that actually like create like harm on a on
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a local human level, not not a you know, a
camera feend like Kanye West. But I'm going to dignify
one part of what he said by acknowledging that in
his mind it might have had some basis, and then
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I'm going to state my response to it, and that
will be our one more thing. Obviously, the most alarming thing,
first off, academics, I think is I don't really watch
a lot of his stuff. But I just be honest
with you, I just don't really. I don't like how
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he moves. I never hear anybody say anything good about him.
You know, he feels like a black culture vulture to me,
if there were such a thing, like everything is I
just don't understand how people move like that. Maybe it's money,
maybe he makes a lot of money, but I just
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I can't. I can't. I anyway, the most alarming thing
about this interview with Kanye West is wearing a ku
Klus Klan hooded robe, right, can't see his face, and
he's just talking to academics, and academics is asking him
all these questions. And I forgive me if it's not accurate,
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but there was some part of the interview where academics
was asking him about, you know, what's with all the
Nazi stuff and all the kukux Klan stuff in this
nine and third and Kanye West says something. He says effectively,
he's communicating to academics that certain people I suspect he
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was implying Jewish people, but certain people have been able
to profit off of the pain of black people by
peddling our music, the worst of our music, and the
worst aspects of our culture for profit. So they've made
money off of the worst parts of our culture. They
sensationalized it, they've normalized it, they've you know, all the guns,
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all the you know. This is what he was trying
to say, and he used that as justification for what
he was then doing, almost like to ask to say, like, well,
this is a mirror. I'm holding this mirror back up
to those folks who have been profiting off of black
people's pain with sensationalized black people's pain, to show them
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how it looks. Right. So, because Kanye West is and
isn't an idiot at the same time, I don't love
saying that, but this is just such a frustrating thing
because we have so much to deal with. But because
of that, and I guess I probably shouldn't say that
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because I don't like talking bad about black men. But
it's already out there, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
My apologies. But because he can string together a cogent thought,
a cogent plan that sounds plausible enough, the people that
should perform an about face on him have something to
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hang on to. Uh see, he said that, so there's
a reason he's not crazy, when, of course everyone else
is looking at him like, oh my god, this is crazy.
From my perspective, you don't drive out hate with more hate,
certainly not on that scale, and certainly not sacrificing your
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own people to that very specific cause. If you think
that Jewish people are profiting off of black pain and
black suffering and all of that, you cannot then introduce
more black literally more black pain and expect the Jewish
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people to get it right. You're hurting the people that
you are supposed to be helped you. You're hurting the
community you're supposed to be a part of. And again,
I know well, and I'm just simply dignifying what he's saying,
and I shouldn't be doing that, but I have to
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kind of have this conversation because we're here. But I
also know full well he's just doing this for attention.
He can find a little bit of vein again of
plausibility and a little bit of a vein of again
formulating some sort of cogent theories, something that resembles a
path from A to Z, ignoring the potential impact the
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ripple effect of it, so that he can do it
because it'll get him the clicks. And as long as
he can say that one piece that and provide that
vein of plausibility, that vein, that vein of of strategy,
he can find himself on TMZ again. He can find himself,
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you know whatever. And there are people that will still
platform them. I I would I would call any Nazi
in be it because I don't think that hatred is
based in intelligence, It's based in ignorance. I believe that
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love can be challenging and hate is low vibrational, and
it comes easy to those that have less in the
way of intelligence. You have to understand someone to love
them on their terms, and you have to seek to
understand someone in order to even begin down that road.
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It's very easy to say this person is different. I
don't like them, I want nothing to do with them,
and in my estimation, that's the path that an idiot chooses.
So here we are. That's really all I have to say.
You know, if you want to watch the interview, you can.
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I would not give this amount of attention to any Nazi,
any one of them. I would not give this amount
of attention any Koul clutch Tan person. They deserve no
oxygen in my universe. Let me be the black hole.
I'll crush them from existence. That's how I really feel
about it. So why I got to talk about this guy,
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I don't know, but I do have to talk about him.
So any last words que or anything else to add
if you. We don't both have to talk about him
all right now? To be that all right? You got
anything to add? I mean, if you feel how we
feel at it. If not, I don't want to hear it.
But you can find me on all social media at
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Rams's Job on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I am q Ward on all platforms as well.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
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