May 28, 2025 • 26 mins
Hey y'all! Have you ever dated someone with a young child? Or have did you start dating shortly after having a child of your own? Well, sometimes those situations can be complicated and that's exactly what today's mess is about! Tap in!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Can'tley Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effects. And just like that, we're back with
yet another Kabuli Kabilly Carefully Reckless episode with your girl
(00:22):
Joshailari's we got my girl tailor here, say hey the
tailor Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Say hey you Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All right, y'all, so we're gonna jump straight in because
and I did read this story. It may be some
grammatical errors, but I did read it. This is something
that I can relate to. I like when y'all write
me about things that I can kind of like relate
to based off of my personal experiences or my previous
or prior experiences, y'all. I like when y'all do that,
because that's where the real advice comes from. If you've
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lived it, or if you're able to relate to a
situation that somebody else may be going through, it's easier
for you to just give advice, okay, especially if you've
made out better and your relationship, you know, based off
of your or your experience. So here we are. Hey, Jess,
I'm writing this to you because I feel like you
can help me with my mess. I know your son's
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father has a lot of baby moms. So I know
you can help me and can understand how I feel.
You were once in my shoes. First of all, I
don't tell me that I don't know. You know, I
don't know about your shoes yet because I was the first,
the first baby mama, you know, to the other five
that he got, so so I know it is crazy.
(01:29):
Wait a minute, what's crazy that he is five? Like?
Oh girl, yes, Rome has kids on tops on kids
on kids on kids. But like another conversation, another conversation
you want me to resume, Yeah, because you asked some
questions from me because I just want to know. Well,
it's not really you, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Where his head is that like, you know what, he
always want to have a lot of kids.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He always wanted a lot of kids. But I don't
think Rome planned to have that many baby moms. Just
when he realized that I wasn't going to allow him
to sit back and cheat on me and all that
type shit.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I wasn't popping out another baby. I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And then we were young, you know, and you know
what you want, but you don't you know what I'm saying,
and the same things you want, what you want in
your early twenties will not be the same things that
you want your thirties all the.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Heys, he always knew he wanted to get married and
have a big family, but he always still ended up cheating,
like he couldn't find Roma still to this day, exertion
for something.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That I don't think that he will find in women.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Because when his mother died when he was ten, Yeah,
that kind of like shaped the way he looked at
women because he was even upset with his mom for
a while for like dying, and she couldn't even control that,
you know what I'm saying. She had health issues, so
it was like, yo, you know. So I just think
that from all that trauma, he has never gotten the
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help that he needs, and it definitely played a big
role in how he looks at women, you know, and
how he processes love from women because hes still looking
for a mom and these women he wants to be
nurtured and things like that, you know, And I'm like, yo,
that's two different types of love, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, that's so that's that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Don't ever make me open up about Rome. I know,
that's right. That was like a little therapeuty for me today.
I'm gonna be about to fucking cry. All right, Shaw,
were going to jump back into our story. Thank you, Taylor. So,
my boyfriend who was now my baby daddy is apparently
cheating on me with one of his previous baby moms
and have been since our first date.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
He told me he was past her and although they
have a young baby, red flag when you sing what.
I don't know how young the baby is, but if
they got a young baby, you know what I'm saying,
Like you, that's a red flag right there?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He assured me that he was never going back and
that she only kept that child because it was against
her religion to have an abortion.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I ain't hear that one before. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I went through his phone and saw messages that he
was sending to her telling her that he regrets having
a baby with me and wish that he would have
kept it honest the whole time with me, and told
me that he wasn't over her. Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
She saw this in the phone.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
She does not give a fuck about him being in
a relationship with me, and I think that's fucked up
because she already went through him cheating and other bullshit
when she was with him. So why keep trying to
get back with him or entertained or entertain him if
you know he's in a relationship, Nowkery what? Either way,
I look like a fucking fool. I was just about
to say that. I'm glad you said it. You beat
me to it. Either way, I look like the fucking
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fool because we have a three month old and he
doesn't know that I went through his phone yet.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But we're supposed to go out of the country for
my birthday and I'm thinking about having that conversation with
him on the island. Oh no, betch you uh? Unless
you're playing on killing them and drawing them in the ocean?
Fuck no, why would you wait till y'all get all
the way out there?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
On vacation.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
On vacation, there is no way for him to escape
to or nowhere for him to run from there. M yeah, bitch,
I yeah, I was just joking about drowning them in
the ocean. I don't know how the trip will end,
but this shit sounds scary. I don't know how the
trip will end. Is crazy, but I need to get
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this off my chest.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
What do you think I should do? Jess?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I do love him and I know he loves me,
but this just fucked my head up. First of all,
ma'am Taylor, before I jump on her ass, is anything
you want to say to her? Because I'm I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Gonna jump all the way in there all the way.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Why would you go on vacation.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
With him after seeing the messages? What is already planning?
Maybe the vacation either way that she would be canceled.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I can't understand her feeling the type of way, like
that's her full words.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Whatever, but leave girl, Like that's easier said the times,
because I've pissed the funk off too.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah the fuck, it's definitely easier said that. But but
this is what I will say. Let's even fast forward.
I mean, that's even rewind, like fuck going on, going
to on the island and shit, to have the conversation
with him when you met him, he had a little
baby already, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's a red flag. It's the only reason why she kept.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
The baby is because it was against her religion to
get it an abortion.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What the fuck are we talking about here? Yeah, I
get that, but your child is here now.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So even if that is the case, why even tell
her that she only kept the child, like I didn't
want to have a baby with her, She only kept
the child because it was against our religion. Still, your
baby's here. I just hate an excuse. The baby is here,
is done, it's dead whatever, Like no, no, no, it's
not done and dead because the baby's here. But I'm
saying like that that the sex is done, the baby's born.
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There's nothing that you can do about it.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You can't turn back the hands of time, like you
can't put the baby back. He said that to his girlfriend.
The only reason why my last baby mother even had
this shout is because it was against her religion to
get an abortion to a little baby. So that was
red flag number one. That's why I said, that's a
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new one.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But even still he has a that's a new baby too, though, right,
and then you get pregnant by him.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Your baby is three months. She ain't tell me how
old dead baby was, but how old is the baby
from his previous relationship was? But why why she got
the babies? Because yes, it's because that's stupid. But now
you're sitting here with a three month old, you know
what I mean. And you went through this guy's phone,
and you realize that's why you can't believe what they
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tell you. Only reason why I hate that shit if
somebody tell you that the only reason why she had
And then you later on find Texas in his phone
to that same baby mother who you gave the reason
for the baby for and you see that she telling
that he telling the baby mother like, yo, I wish
I would have kept it on this with my girl
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now because now she got a baby. I didn't even
want to have another baby. I should have just kept
it on this with her to her wasn't over you. Yeah,
that's crazy how you keep something like that. But also
y'all get on the plane. I mean, so y'all get
in to another island.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I can also you can tell that that's already been
trust issues because you went through his phone.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You went through his phone.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And then also what I'm also looking at is the
fact that she said there is nowhere for him to
escape to or to run from there. Like so, y'all
been through this ship before, and every time you confront
him about something, he runs away from it, or he
deflex or he flips it around on you, like, Hi,
you know what I mean, because I can tell a
lot in this story.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like you said, she one, you're already going through the phone,
so he felt.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, you've been felt this shit like you've been
felt this way. Hold up, hold up, I know this
shit getting good. But listen to just a couple seconds
of a commercial. If you love me, you'll listen. And
then also, she probably has postpartum depression, you know what
I mean? Three months and do you find this shit?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's like fuck?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And do you have a baby, depending on how old
you are, depending on you know, because everyone is different.
You don't feel like yourself, you don't feel pretty, you
feel like you're trying to bounce back.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You got to go back to work. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And then you look in your man's phone that you
just had a baby by you. See. Damn, he he
denied me, and shit, he wished that he never even
would have got with me because he's still over her.
But he did tell this girl he's over he was
over the baby mother.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's crazy. I think I think she will try to
kill him.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think so because and then another thing that's screaming
crazy about her is you're a able to hold this
ship then until your birthday, that until y'll get into
the island, and y'all, yeah, so you got to fly
with the thing.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You got to get up and get on the point.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You got to pack and act happy like y'all about
to go ahead of time of.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Y'all fucking lives. I don't know how to do that.
And then she said, I don't know how this trip
will end, you know, excuse.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Me the fuck? You haven't seen the movie Blink Twice?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Is that what? Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
On island and ship and they go over there and
they don't even know what the fuck. The women don't
even know what's before Yes, and she was there before. Gruh,
that ship sounded like some ship like that. Listeners, y'all
need to go see Blink Twice. I'm actually doing a
movie review on it, but y'all need to go see
that ship. Yeah it was good, It was good, but
it was also crazy. Yeah, it was was very nuts
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like girl, And you know what, when they do movies
like that, we're gonna get back to her mess. But
when they do movies like that, that shit just makes
me think, like about the Epstein ship and like the
Epstein like the list, Like what if people really do
have these secret islands where they go to and they
like the drug women and rape them and it's like
a form of trafficking. What I did say, I'm saying,
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what's that guy's names? Uh epsin, Jeffrey Epstein, that might
be talking about another one, because I'm telling you it's
probably a dark world where it's a bunch of the motherfuckers.
But another one, Harry Wanston, No, maybe it's Yeah, it is,
because remember it was supposed to have been a list
that came out with all the celebrities.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, that's along that's in on it, and ship I
think there's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yes, that's a whole other world. And look, they don't
make these movies for no reason either. That's the movie.
So if you ain't never see it, I'm just going
spoiler alert, spoiler alert right now, y'all need to watch it.
But it's basically it's a movie. And Zoe Kravitz did
this movie. Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Benes's daughter did this movie.
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And it it's basically like a remote island, right that
this billionaire owns and they do trips there him and
these other elite members of this group or whatever, like
a member's only thing, and they take five women over
there and it's five of them. They take five women
over there and they drug them, and then the ladies
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don't even know they're being drugged. They you know, it's kicking.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
They killed one of them because she wasn't forgetting nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So in the movie, the ship that they have the
perfume that that they all right. So they get there
and the villa is already set up. They got clothes
already waiting for them and everything, and it just looks
like a great getaway, like a fucking luxury, fucking vacation.
But they're drugging you every night. On top are already
taking drugs because they give them shrooms and LSD and
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all this type of shit the ship that make you
all like open and happy and shit, right, but then
they also give you something to make you forget, and
you wake up the next morning like, oh my god,
we had a black last night, but you don't remember shit.
And what they're doing when they give you the drugs
that make you forget is raping you and like fucking
you up crazy. So you wake up tired and drained.
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The next day, but you don't remember what the happened
past you being on high. I did not see that coming.
I did not, But he had to be in love
with that black because.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You didn't. You didn't even remember last time or something
like crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yep, she was able to remember. She had a fucking
head to you like. It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So y'all just need to go and watch.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And I know it seemed like I just told y'all
the whole movie, but no, seriously, it is literally so
much more. It's so much more that y'all need to say,
y'all need to watch the whole fucking shit. Either way,
Love you guys, Love you girls. Oh no, wait, I
was about to say bye girl, because this girl dumba shit.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I hate giving given.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
The fucking advice to people who I felt like should
already know what to do. Baby girl, y'all.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Do you think she should just leave?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think she should leave that nig I found I
found out that show asked didn't want this baby with me?
You wasn't even over this bitch, And I asked you
was you over her? And I believe that bullshit ask
excuse that she kept the baby because it was against
her religion to get an abortion. I can't believe, I
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fucking believe that I'm here with this baby, this three
month old, and I had to go through your phone
to find out that you regret me and this baby,
like come to fuck on but you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But the thing is, think about it though, and you
said it before, like when you and room were together
like that the day you guys want to like you
went in the family kept.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
She's probably trying to make that nigga have a fad.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like that's what that's what I learned. You cannot make
a nigga want his family. You cannot make a nigga
stay with you because y'all had a baby. Like a
man is not going to stay because you have a baby.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Honestly, sometimes the.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Man runs away even quicker when they feel like they're
going to be binded to a woman forever that they
don't even see a future with. But now you got
my child, so you thinking about the whole me shackled
to you like, nah, that that's not a tool. You
never use a pregnancy or a child as a tool
of attachment, like to keep connection with a person. That
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is horrible. You don't do that. And because the only
one that really loses ultimately is not you, not the guy,
but the fucking kids. The baby is the one who
pays for that, you know what I mean? Like, because
you know, I feel like all kids should be able
to see that both of their parents under one household,
under one roof. You know, That's why you got to
be very careful who you let, like who you create with.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Yo, you have to get to know these people.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
She don't tell me how long she been knowing this nigga,
not like she is just she just said he already
had a fucking baby. And don't ever tell me I
can relate to this one of rome other baby mothers
can relate to this shit. I can't relate to this
shit because the dumbest shit that I did for Rome
was the last dumb shit that I did for Rome.
And I tell y'all this story all the time, and
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I'm gonna repeat it again for the people in the
motherfucking back. I thought I wanted my family, and he
I believe that fucking litter he sold me.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I was dealing with this dude. I wasn't even
with Rome.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Our song was mad young, like real young, and I
was dealing with this guy who had came and swept
me off my feet.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
He was everything that Rome wasn't.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He was actually doing right by Ash, and he treated
Ash as he as his own child.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He didn't have no kids, he didn't have no no
white laying around it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I went back to Rome. I let room get
in my air, but I want my family and I
just I want. I want to try it again. And yo,
I'm ready to be the man that you need me
to be. The whole time we talk, he talked like
this and we fucking twenty years old. Yeah, right, motherfucker
twenty one and shit, And I went to the guy
because I didn't want to cheat on a guy with Rome.
I went to the guy and I'm like, look, I
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want to try. I think I'm gonna get wrong one.
We'll try to be a family. That nigga looked at
me like what but you just set up here and
told me all the ship that he don't know you.
I was probably with I was about to say his name.
I was with him for maybe about what six months?
Domish fuck domb as fuck damn. I was with this
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nigga for no, it was longer than that.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, I was with him for closer close to a year.
And I don't know, yo.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I have no idea why, like why like why I
even did that goofy ship y'all? But I did, and
that nigga couldn't wait to cheat on me, couldn't wait
to what was.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't remember to come on here and talk about
his reasons.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know what, We're gonna do a question there for
Rome developed the questions. Now he gonna look at you
when you're getting here pregnant. That's gonna trigger him because
he has a baby every year. If you love me,
you'll listen to this commercial and then we'll be right back.
But you know one thing about Rome though, Rome, he
is a great dad, and he's always taking care of
his kids the best that he knew how and the
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best that he could afford, Like you know.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So that's one thing about my baby daddy or my
little baby father, y'all. I just want to always, you know,
commend him on that aspect because it's whether we want
to look at it for what it is or not.
People really think black dads are like shit, you know
what I'm saying, Like all black dad listen my father
was a great fucking dad to me, you know what
I mean? And yep, so you know, so is yours,
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you know, and and and although all dads don't get
it right, all black dads don't get it right, you
got some fucking white dads that don't get it right either.
You know, you got in every fucking race.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
You know you do.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Though, Yeah, I mean, I don't know why I like
a stigma not.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Saying that it should be no, it should be like
no more because everyone says that black baby daddy.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, I know. And honestly that has a lot to
do with the baby moms too, like because of how
they're talked about baby mom, they get a little crazy.
I get it, But no for sure because I you know,
I know something. But I know, yeah, all of them,
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but they're not talking ship about their baby daddy's publicly either,
you get what I'm saying. Like Chloe even listen, Chloe
even still is imaginarily married to hers, imaginarily married to hers,
and this nigga out here doing whatever. But she said,
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for the sake of my child, I don't want my
child to know the traditional parents to parent's living in
one household. I don't want her to know that we're
not together. The children should not know what's going on.
So I'm gonna keep letting my daughter think I'm married
to her dad, which is gonna fuck her up, by
the way, when she gets older to be an adult
and ask you, Ma, I could have dealt without that lie.
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I could have went without that lie, Like I'm fine, Yeah,
Like why didn't you just keep that shit honest with me?
Because that's what I always talk to my mother about mine.
If you weren't happy in your marriage, why would you
stay old? Because I just wanted to keep my family together.
I want to draw kids to know what traditional households
were like. We never I never knew my parents had
issues or whatever until I became a grown woman who
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was all who already had a child, Like you know
what I'm saying, And I'm just like, man, like you've
been unhappy all this time, and like you're willing to
be you were willing to be miserable and deal with
like all of that shit, yeah, and have to be strong.
Probably got mental illness to say the first right, just
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for us to know what having both of our parents
in the same house.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was, like, yeah, everything about that and now was my
my parents are fine, but like I just wonder what.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, I know they kept a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
From me at least, like I know my sister seen
being the oldest, but like.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, your parents are still together though, right, yeah so,
but even.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Still though, like guess we're all out of the house.
I just wonder, like, I know my mom is traditional as.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well as my Yeah, my mom is traditional, and.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I just wonder her her mental.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, like where is she at with it? Or has
she ever had to endure? Ship coming up?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And y'all just she just kept that smile on her face,
like like, what's her name, Melanie Fiona, Mona Lisa smiles.
She literally was just talking about that in her interview
where she's just like, man, like you ever look at
that picture of Mona Lisa and you see that she's smiling.
I didn't even know she was smiling, because one, white
people don't have no lips, so I had no idea
that she was smiling until I zoomed all the way
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in after talking to Melanie, and I'm like, damn, no,
she is smiling, but she looks so sad in her eyes,
you know what I mean, Like it's like fuck, you know,
all them smile back?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Then, who's them?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The white?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That's because the white.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Honestly, humans in general, we never seen a smiling picture
of like herriot telling.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Or what the fuck was it to smile for a tailor?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Right, you're right. Okay, that's bad, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
We're just gonna end.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, let me see.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Something are you smiling for? I gotta kills and take
the road every night, parties and rosa parks.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
There was nothing to smile about.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
She used to get into it with her husband. That's
how she ended up on the bus that day. I
don't know, because her husband had a fucking card the
whole time. Joe Button already told us that.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Okay, so look, but well it was sad time then that.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
For everybody, Yes, something smiling like excuse me, you're right,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That's but women in general, we didn't have right then.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I know. We couldn't do ship, we couldn't vote, we
couldn't speak up, We couldn't you know, say when we girl,
Oh my god, imagine the perrairie crams.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Honey, what the funk would you like?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know what I'm saying? I can only imagine being
on my mother fucking Perrie and I'm a slave and
I'm outside of heat. What I like, I wonder what
they were saying, master, like my cramps is.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Like when I went to the.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I've got the proper name for it, but basically like
where they kept the slaves and and.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
What they were just saying, like how standing like the ship?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah right exactly, And so who would smile Taylor, right, Yeah,
only the motherfucking white people. White people also were sad too.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Their husband were.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Cheating yep with the slaves. Yup, that was the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was nothing little small about Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody was depressed. You you kind of think, huh damn
except the men, except the white men mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But they wasn't happy because their wife ain't had no ass.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So that's why the fuck they had to go cheat
with with big Bertha out in the yard, because she
had ass sitting up on her back. How do we
get here? We are done? This is we've come to
yet another carefully Breakord's episode with your Girl.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Just hilarious and my girl tailor.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Y'all, y'all go ahead and say by the tailor tail
say about them people probably.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Be nobody heavy back in the day.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Taking Madam.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
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Joshailari's we got my girl tailor here, say hey the
tailor Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Say hey you Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All right, y'all, so we're gonna jump straight in because
and I did read this story. It may be some
grammatical errors, but I did read it. This is something
that I can relate to. I like when y'all write
me about things that I can kind of like relate
to based off of my personal experiences or my previous
or prior experiences, y'all. I like when y'all do that,
because that's where the real advice comes from. If you've
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lived it, or if you're able to relate to a
situation that somebody else may be going through, it's easier
for you to just give advice, okay, especially if you've
made out better and your relationship, you know, based off
of your or your experience. So here we are. Hey, Jess,
I'm writing this to you because I feel like you
can help me with my mess. I know your son's
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father has a lot of baby moms. So I know
you can help me and can understand how I feel.
You were once in my shoes. First of all, I
don't tell me that I don't know. You know, I
don't know about your shoes yet because I was the first,
the first baby mama, you know, to the other five
that he got, so so I know it is crazy.
(01:29):
Wait a minute, what's crazy that he is five? Like?
Oh girl, yes, Rome has kids on tops on kids
on kids on kids. But like another conversation, another conversation
you want me to resume, Yeah, because you asked some
questions from me because I just want to know. Well,
it's not really you, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Where his head is that like, you know what, he
always want to have a lot of kids.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He always wanted a lot of kids. But I don't
think Rome planned to have that many baby moms. Just
when he realized that I wasn't going to allow him
to sit back and cheat on me and all that
type shit.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I wasn't popping out another baby. I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And then we were young, you know, and you know
what you want, but you don't you know what I'm saying,
and the same things you want, what you want in
your early twenties will not be the same things that
you want your thirties all the.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Heys, he always knew he wanted to get married and
have a big family, but he always still ended up cheating,
like he couldn't find Roma still to this day, exertion
for something.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That I don't think that he will find in women.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Because when his mother died when he was ten, Yeah,
that kind of like shaped the way he looked at
women because he was even upset with his mom for
a while for like dying, and she couldn't even control that,
you know what I'm saying. She had health issues, so
it was like, yo, you know. So I just think
that from all that trauma, he has never gotten the
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help that he needs, and it definitely played a big
role in how he looks at women, you know, and
how he processes love from women because hes still looking
for a mom and these women he wants to be
nurtured and things like that, you know, And I'm like, yo,
that's two different types of love, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, that's so that's that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Don't ever make me open up about Rome. I know,
that's right. That was like a little therapeuty for me today.
I'm gonna be about to fucking cry. All right, Shaw,
were going to jump back into our story. Thank you, Taylor. So,
my boyfriend who was now my baby daddy is apparently
cheating on me with one of his previous baby moms
and have been since our first date.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
He told me he was past her and although they
have a young baby, red flag when you sing what.
I don't know how young the baby is, but if
they got a young baby, you know what I'm saying,
Like you, that's a red flag right there?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He assured me that he was never going back and
that she only kept that child because it was against
her religion to have an abortion.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I ain't hear that one before. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I went through his phone and saw messages that he
was sending to her telling her that he regrets having
a baby with me and wish that he would have
kept it honest the whole time with me, and told
me that he wasn't over her. Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
She saw this in the phone.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
She does not give a fuck about him being in
a relationship with me, and I think that's fucked up
because she already went through him cheating and other bullshit
when she was with him. So why keep trying to
get back with him or entertained or entertain him if
you know he's in a relationship, Nowkery what? Either way,
I look like a fucking fool. I was just about
to say that. I'm glad you said it. You beat
me to it. Either way, I look like the fucking
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fool because we have a three month old and he
doesn't know that I went through his phone yet.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But we're supposed to go out of the country for
my birthday and I'm thinking about having that conversation with
him on the island. Oh no, betch you uh? Unless
you're playing on killing them and drawing them in the ocean?
Fuck no, why would you wait till y'all get all
the way out there?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
On vacation.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
On vacation, there is no way for him to escape
to or nowhere for him to run from there. M yeah, bitch,
I yeah, I was just joking about drowning them in
the ocean. I don't know how the trip will end,
but this shit sounds scary. I don't know how the
trip will end. Is crazy, but I need to get
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this off my chest.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
What do you think I should do? Jess?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I do love him and I know he loves me,
but this just fucked my head up. First of all,
ma'am Taylor, before I jump on her ass, is anything
you want to say to her? Because I'm I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Gonna jump all the way in there all the way.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Why would you go on vacation.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
With him after seeing the messages? What is already planning?
Maybe the vacation either way that she would be canceled.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I can't understand her feeling the type of way, like
that's her full words.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Whatever, but leave girl, Like that's easier said the times,
because I've pissed the funk off too.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah the fuck, it's definitely easier said that. But but
this is what I will say. Let's even fast forward.
I mean, that's even rewind, like fuck going on, going
to on the island and shit, to have the conversation
with him when you met him, he had a little
baby already, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's a red flag. It's the only reason why she kept.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
The baby is because it was against her religion to
get it an abortion.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What the fuck are we talking about here? Yeah, I
get that, but your child is here now.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So even if that is the case, why even tell
her that she only kept the child, like I didn't
want to have a baby with her, She only kept
the child because it was against our religion. Still, your
baby's here. I just hate an excuse. The baby is here,
is done, it's dead whatever, Like no, no, no, it's
not done and dead because the baby's here. But I'm
saying like that that the sex is done, the baby's born.
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There's nothing that you can do about it.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You can't turn back the hands of time, like you
can't put the baby back. He said that to his girlfriend.
The only reason why my last baby mother even had
this shout is because it was against her religion to
get an abortion to a little baby. So that was
red flag number one. That's why I said, that's a
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new one.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But even still he has a that's a new baby too, though, right,
and then you get pregnant by him.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Your baby is three months. She ain't tell me how
old dead baby was, but how old is the baby
from his previous relationship was? But why why she got
the babies? Because yes, it's because that's stupid. But now
you're sitting here with a three month old, you know
what I mean. And you went through this guy's phone,
and you realize that's why you can't believe what they
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tell you. Only reason why I hate that shit if
somebody tell you that the only reason why she had
And then you later on find Texas in his phone
to that same baby mother who you gave the reason
for the baby for and you see that she telling
that he telling the baby mother like, yo, I wish
I would have kept it on this with my girl
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now because now she got a baby. I didn't even
want to have another baby. I should have just kept
it on this with her to her wasn't over you. Yeah,
that's crazy how you keep something like that. But also
y'all get on the plane. I mean, so y'all get
in to another island.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I can also you can tell that that's already been
trust issues because you went through his phone.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You went through his phone.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And then also what I'm also looking at is the
fact that she said there is nowhere for him to
escape to or to run from there. Like so, y'all
been through this ship before, and every time you confront
him about something, he runs away from it, or he
deflex or he flips it around on you, like, Hi,
you know what I mean, because I can tell a
lot in this story.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like you said, she one, you're already going through the phone,
so he felt.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, you've been felt this shit like you've been
felt this way. Hold up, hold up, I know this
shit getting good. But listen to just a couple seconds
of a commercial. If you love me, you'll listen. And
then also, she probably has postpartum depression, you know what
I mean? Three months and do you find this shit?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's like fuck?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And do you have a baby, depending on how old
you are, depending on you know, because everyone is different.
You don't feel like yourself, you don't feel pretty, you
feel like you're trying to bounce back.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You got to go back to work. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And then you look in your man's phone that you
just had a baby by you. See. Damn, he he
denied me, and shit, he wished that he never even
would have got with me because he's still over her.
But he did tell this girl he's over he was
over the baby mother.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's crazy. I think I think she will try to
kill him.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think so because and then another thing that's screaming
crazy about her is you're a able to hold this
ship then until your birthday, that until y'll get into
the island, and y'all, yeah, so you got to fly
with the thing.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You got to get up and get on the point.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You got to pack and act happy like y'all about
to go ahead of time of.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Y'all fucking lives. I don't know how to do that.
And then she said, I don't know how this trip
will end, you know, excuse.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Me the fuck? You haven't seen the movie Blink Twice?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Is that what? Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
On island and ship and they go over there and
they don't even know what the fuck. The women don't
even know what's before Yes, and she was there before. Gruh,
that ship sounded like some ship like that. Listeners, y'all
need to go see Blink Twice. I'm actually doing a
movie review on it, but y'all need to go see
that ship. Yeah it was good, It was good, but
it was also crazy. Yeah, it was was very nuts
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like girl, And you know what, when they do movies
like that, we're gonna get back to her mess. But
when they do movies like that, that shit just makes
me think, like about the Epstein ship and like the
Epstein like the list, Like what if people really do
have these secret islands where they go to and they
like the drug women and rape them and it's like
a form of trafficking. What I did say, I'm saying,
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what's that guy's names? Uh epsin, Jeffrey Epstein, that might
be talking about another one, because I'm telling you it's
probably a dark world where it's a bunch of the motherfuckers.
But another one, Harry Wanston, No, maybe it's Yeah, it is,
because remember it was supposed to have been a list
that came out with all the celebrities.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, that's along that's in on it, and ship I
think there's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yes, that's a whole other world. And look, they don't
make these movies for no reason either. That's the movie.
So if you ain't never see it, I'm just going
spoiler alert, spoiler alert right now, y'all need to watch it.
But it's basically it's a movie. And Zoe Kravitz did
this movie. Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Benes's daughter did this movie.
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And it it's basically like a remote island, right that
this billionaire owns and they do trips there him and
these other elite members of this group or whatever, like
a member's only thing, and they take five women over
there and it's five of them. They take five women
over there and they drug them, and then the ladies
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don't even know they're being drugged. They you know, it's kicking.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
They killed one of them because she wasn't forgetting nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So in the movie, the ship that they have the
perfume that that they all right. So they get there
and the villa is already set up. They got clothes
already waiting for them and everything, and it just looks
like a great getaway, like a fucking luxury, fucking vacation.
But they're drugging you every night. On top are already
taking drugs because they give them shrooms and LSD and
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all this type of shit the ship that make you
all like open and happy and shit, right, but then
they also give you something to make you forget, and
you wake up the next morning like, oh my god,
we had a black last night, but you don't remember shit.
And what they're doing when they give you the drugs
that make you forget is raping you and like fucking
you up crazy. So you wake up tired and drained.
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The next day, but you don't remember what the happened
past you being on high. I did not see that coming.
I did not, But he had to be in love
with that black because.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You didn't. You didn't even remember last time or something
like crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yep, she was able to remember. She had a fucking
head to you like. It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So y'all just need to go and watch.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And I know it seemed like I just told y'all
the whole movie, but no, seriously, it is literally so
much more. It's so much more that y'all need to say,
y'all need to watch the whole fucking shit. Either way,
Love you guys, Love you girls. Oh no, wait, I
was about to say bye girl, because this girl dumba shit.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I hate giving given.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
The fucking advice to people who I felt like should
already know what to do. Baby girl, y'all.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Do you think she should just leave?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think she should leave that nig I found I
found out that show asked didn't want this baby with me?
You wasn't even over this bitch, And I asked you
was you over her? And I believe that bullshit ask
excuse that she kept the baby because it was against
her religion to get an abortion. I can't believe, I
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fucking believe that I'm here with this baby, this three
month old, and I had to go through your phone
to find out that you regret me and this baby,
like come to fuck on but you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But the thing is, think about it though, and you
said it before, like when you and room were together
like that the day you guys want to like you
went in the family kept.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
She's probably trying to make that nigga have a fad.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like that's what that's what I learned. You cannot make
a nigga want his family. You cannot make a nigga
stay with you because y'all had a baby. Like a
man is not going to stay because you have a baby.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Honestly, sometimes the.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Man runs away even quicker when they feel like they're
going to be binded to a woman forever that they
don't even see a future with. But now you got
my child, so you thinking about the whole me shackled
to you like, nah, that that's not a tool. You
never use a pregnancy or a child as a tool
of attachment, like to keep connection with a person. That
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is horrible. You don't do that. And because the only
one that really loses ultimately is not you, not the guy,
but the fucking kids. The baby is the one who
pays for that, you know what I mean? Like, because
you know, I feel like all kids should be able
to see that both of their parents under one household,
under one roof. You know, That's why you got to
be very careful who you let, like who you create with.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Yo, you have to get to know these people.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
She don't tell me how long she been knowing this nigga,
not like she is just she just said he already
had a fucking baby. And don't ever tell me I
can relate to this one of rome other baby mothers
can relate to this shit. I can't relate to this
shit because the dumbest shit that I did for Rome
was the last dumb shit that I did for Rome.
And I tell y'all this story all the time, and
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I'm gonna repeat it again for the people in the
motherfucking back. I thought I wanted my family, and he
I believe that fucking litter he sold me.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I was dealing with this dude. I wasn't even
with Rome.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Our song was mad young, like real young, and I
was dealing with this guy who had came and swept
me off my feet.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
He was everything that Rome wasn't.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He was actually doing right by Ash, and he treated
Ash as he as his own child.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He didn't have no kids, he didn't have no no
white laying around it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I went back to Rome. I let room get
in my air, but I want my family and I
just I want. I want to try it again. And yo,
I'm ready to be the man that you need me
to be. The whole time we talk, he talked like
this and we fucking twenty years old. Yeah, right, motherfucker
twenty one and shit, And I went to the guy
because I didn't want to cheat on a guy with Rome.
I went to the guy and I'm like, look, I
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want to try. I think I'm gonna get wrong one.
We'll try to be a family. That nigga looked at
me like what but you just set up here and
told me all the ship that he don't know you.
I was probably with I was about to say his name.
I was with him for maybe about what six months?
Domish fuck domb as fuck damn. I was with this
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nigga for no, it was longer than that.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, I was with him for closer close to a year.
And I don't know, yo.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I have no idea why, like why like why I
even did that goofy ship y'all? But I did, and
that nigga couldn't wait to cheat on me, couldn't wait
to what was.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't remember to come on here and talk about
his reasons.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know what, We're gonna do a question there for
Rome developed the questions. Now he gonna look at you
when you're getting here pregnant. That's gonna trigger him because
he has a baby every year. If you love me,
you'll listen to this commercial and then we'll be right back.
But you know one thing about Rome though, Rome, he
is a great dad, and he's always taking care of
his kids the best that he knew how and the
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best that he could afford, Like you know.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So that's one thing about my baby daddy or my
little baby father, y'all. I just want to always, you know,
commend him on that aspect because it's whether we want
to look at it for what it is or not.
People really think black dads are like shit, you know
what I'm saying, Like all black dad listen my father
was a great fucking dad to me, you know what
I mean? And yep, so you know, so is yours,
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you know, and and and although all dads don't get
it right, all black dads don't get it right, you
got some fucking white dads that don't get it right either.
You know, you got in every fucking race.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
You know you do.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Though, Yeah, I mean, I don't know why I like
a stigma not.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Saying that it should be no, it should be like
no more because everyone says that black baby daddy.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, I know. And honestly that has a lot to
do with the baby moms too, like because of how
they're talked about baby mom, they get a little crazy.
I get it, But no for sure because I you know,
I know something. But I know, yeah, all of them,
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but they're not talking ship about their baby daddy's publicly either,
you get what I'm saying. Like Chloe even listen, Chloe
even still is imaginarily married to hers, imaginarily married to hers,
and this nigga out here doing whatever. But she said,
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for the sake of my child, I don't want my
child to know the traditional parents to parent's living in
one household. I don't want her to know that we're
not together. The children should not know what's going on.
So I'm gonna keep letting my daughter think I'm married
to her dad, which is gonna fuck her up, by
the way, when she gets older to be an adult
and ask you, Ma, I could have dealt without that lie.
(20:18):
I could have went without that lie, Like I'm fine, Yeah,
Like why didn't you just keep that shit honest with me?
Because that's what I always talk to my mother about mine.
If you weren't happy in your marriage, why would you
stay old? Because I just wanted to keep my family together.
I want to draw kids to know what traditional households
were like. We never I never knew my parents had
issues or whatever until I became a grown woman who
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was all who already had a child, Like you know
what I'm saying, And I'm just like, man, like you've
been unhappy all this time, and like you're willing to
be you were willing to be miserable and deal with
like all of that shit, yeah, and have to be strong.
Probably got mental illness to say the first right, just
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for us to know what having both of our parents
in the same house.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was, like, yeah, everything about that and now was my
my parents are fine, but like I just wonder what.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, I know they kept a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
From me at least, like I know my sister seen
being the oldest, but like.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, your parents are still together though, right, yeah so,
but even.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Still though, like guess we're all out of the house.
I just wonder, like, I know my mom is traditional as.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well as my Yeah, my mom is traditional, and.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I just wonder her her mental.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, like where is she at with it? Or has
she ever had to endure? Ship coming up?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And y'all just she just kept that smile on her face,
like like, what's her name, Melanie Fiona, Mona Lisa smiles.
She literally was just talking about that in her interview
where she's just like, man, like you ever look at
that picture of Mona Lisa and you see that she's smiling.
I didn't even know she was smiling, because one, white
people don't have no lips, so I had no idea
that she was smiling until I zoomed all the way
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in after talking to Melanie, and I'm like, damn, no,
she is smiling, but she looks so sad in her eyes,
you know what I mean, Like it's like fuck, you know,
all them smile back?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Then, who's them?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The white?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That's because the white.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Honestly, humans in general, we never seen a smiling picture
of like herriot telling.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Or what the fuck was it to smile for a tailor?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Right, you're right. Okay, that's bad, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
We're just gonna end.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, let me see.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Something are you smiling for? I gotta kills and take
the road every night, parties and rosa parks.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
There was nothing to smile about.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
She used to get into it with her husband. That's
how she ended up on the bus that day. I
don't know, because her husband had a fucking card the
whole time. Joe Button already told us that.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Okay, so look, but well it was sad time then that.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
For everybody, Yes, something smiling like excuse me, you're right,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That's but women in general, we didn't have right then.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I know. We couldn't do ship, we couldn't vote, we
couldn't speak up, We couldn't you know, say when we girl,
Oh my god, imagine the perrairie crams.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Honey, what the funk would you like?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know what I'm saying? I can only imagine being
on my mother fucking Perrie and I'm a slave and
I'm outside of heat. What I like, I wonder what
they were saying, master, like my cramps is.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Like when I went to the.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I've got the proper name for it, but basically like
where they kept the slaves and and.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
What they were just saying, like how standing like the ship?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah right exactly, And so who would smile Taylor, right, Yeah,
only the motherfucking white people. White people also were sad too.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Their husband were.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Cheating yep with the slaves. Yup, that was the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was nothing little small about Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody was depressed. You you kind of think, huh damn
except the men, except the white men mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But they wasn't happy because their wife ain't had no ass.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So that's why the fuck they had to go cheat
with with big Bertha out in the yard, because she
had ass sitting up on her back. How do we
get here? We are done? This is we've come to
yet another carefully Breakord's episode with your Girl.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Just hilarious and my girl tailor.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Y'all, y'all go ahead and say by the tailor tail
say about them people probably.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Be nobody heavy back in the day.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Taking Madam.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
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