April 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Just a month before the start of his trial, Sean "Diddy" Combs faces a third indictment.
The new document adds two counts: sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. The additional charges focus on “Victim-2,” who prosecutors say Combs recruited, harbored, and transported for coerced commercial sex acts between 2021 and 2024. If convicted, the charges could result in more jail time.
Combs pleads not guilty. His legal team argues the allegations are not new and involve the same accusers—former long-term girlfriends who, they say, had consensual sexual relationships with Combs. He insists the encounters prosecutors call “Freak Offs” were mutual decisions between romantic partners to invite others into their relationship. Combs claims the tapes prosecutors plan to introduce as evidence will show all parties as willing participants.
Prosecutors say “Victim-1,” also known as Cassie Ventura, plans to testify under her real name. They have asked Judge Arun Subramanian to allow witnesses 2, 3, and 4 to remain anonymous. They argue that revealing their names could lead to significant embarrassment, anxiety, social stigma, and media harassment. The witnesses are also concerned their testimony may affect personal relationships and future job prospects.
What else is going on with Diddy? Tune into Crime Stories for updates.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
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Eric Faddis - Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal, Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis
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Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author of "Deal Breaker,” and featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
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Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, & Host of YouTube Channel, "The Interview Room"
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Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Associate Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn, and former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You? See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG), @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn) @anewdaylight (X-Twitter)
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Dr. Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco - Executive Director of Freedom Light, Human Trafficking Expert Witness, Author of “Hidden in Plain Sight: America’s Slaves of the New Millennium;" X: @MehlmanOrozco
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Kayla Brantley - Reporter-At-Large for DailyMail.com, Host of Daily Mail’s podcast, 'The Trial of Diddy;" X: @_KaylaBrantley, Instagram: @KaylaBrantley
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Sydney Sumner - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace mac Daddy. Yeah you heard
me right.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Seawan Combs aka Diddy, now humiliated as he is forced
to use one dollar cans of mackerel fish.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
As jail currency.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What happened to the private jets, the private chef, all
of those minions at his beck and call? He is
dealing in mac mackerel? This in a bombshell bid for
a trial delay. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
(00:46):
Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hit with more
charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the
musician use his power and status in the music industry
to coerce unknowing victims.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I wouldn't put it past the fase at this juncture.
There is now a third superseding indictment to add more
charges because we are learning more about an alleged shooting
that went down in a studio. But first, can we
get to the canned mackerel?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay? Listen to this?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
In made three seven four or five two dash zero
five to four, otherwise known as Sean Diddy Combs will
be housed in four North at the Metropolitan Detention Center
for at least forty eight more days if his trial
begins on time. Colms has spent most of his time
in the unit's visiting room with his lawyers or the
(01:41):
video call room with his laptop that cannot access the
Internet to work through the mountain of evidence that prosecutors
have turned over. Colms exorbitant monetary value hasn't gotten him anywhere.
Behind bars, forced to use a more humiliating currency instead
of cash, in mates trade packets of mackerel known as max,
(02:03):
on sale at the commissary for one dollar each.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Boo hoo, poor diddy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All those millions and millions, some people say, a billion
dollars of net worth and he's trading cans of mackerel
for favors behind bars. Got an all star panel lined up,
but first straight out to crime stories investigative reporters Sydney Summer,
Sydney canned mackerel.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
What great, Nancy. That's the only form of currency that
they can come up with behind bars at the Metropolitan
Detention Center. So there's obviously no exchange of cash. And
from what we've heard before, we know that the commissary
is pretty strict they don't really allow you to stock
pile things. You can only spend one hundred and eighty
(02:47):
dollars in commissary every two weeks. So the inmate could
come up with the system where they trade these packets
of tuna as a dollar. They cost a dollar in
the commissary. So if you needed something that would have
cost five dollars, but they wouldn't let you buy it
from commissary, you can hand me five packets of mackerel instead.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, So Shawn Corimbs is now a.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Mac dealer, apparently, Nancy.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay, First, Sydney, let me correct you. It's a subtle
but important distinction. Mackerel is not tuna. But that said,
the gist of your reporting is correct. Now, joining me
a special guest, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Associate Warden, MDC
in Brooklyn, former Senior warden with the US Department of Justice,
(03:36):
Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder president a New Daylight Foundation,
author of who Are You See It? Say It, Seize It?
And you can find him at New dlightfoundation dot com.
Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, So, Shawn Corimbs is now a macdealer.
Did you realize that the humiliation he must be going
(03:59):
through all those millions, all those designers closed drenched in jewelry,
dope chains.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Around his neck.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and now he's
shuffling cans of mackerel. Really, did you know about the
black market currency of dealing in mac behind bars?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Well, as they say in prison, commissary is currency, and
a lot of those individuals, once they immersed themselves in
the jail of prison culture, they used commissary to pay
off debts to get favors. I know they were early
reporting when he first got there, the inmates for doing
his laundry for him.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
So they use those items.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What who who wait whoa whoa wait wait wait wait
wait wait okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, hold on, Hendrix, don't move.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Joining me.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Are now in Psychoanalyst out of Beverly Hills, Joining us,
Doctor Bethany Marshalls at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com, author
of deal Breaker. You can see her now on Peacock,
Doctor Bethany, did you hear what he just said? Wherever
Sean Combs goes, he has a fleet of minions. So
before he could order cheesecake at three o'clock in the
(05:12):
morning and actually get somebody to go out and get it.
People waiting on him, hand and foot, surrounded by a
phalanx of as.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I said, minions.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Now he's got minions making up his bed and cleaning.
How hard is it to pull one blanket up? You
got to get another inmate to do that for you.
I know this means something.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
But what Okay, Nancy, I guess he did. He needs staff, right, Seriously,
I've compared his culture of sex trafficking to a cult
where he's always the leader and the benefits flow towards him,
and I think he's creating that same culture in behind bars, Nancy.
You know the mackerel is currency. I once worked with
(05:55):
a female consultant who work with women behind bars, and
they would take Jolly ramcher candies. They would melt them
down in the microwave and use them as bildos. They
would sell them.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
They would pass.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Them around as some kind of favor. So you know
he did. He had billions before. Now he has kans
of mackerel. He's going to use whatever he has.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Okay, I'm just trying to take everything you just said
with a box of salt. What is happening with Diddi
behind bars, this as he makes a bombshell bid for
a trial delay. Eric Fattest joining me, renowned attorney, joining us,
founding partner Varner Fattest, elite Legal Eric Fattest, Delay, Delay, Delay,
(06:43):
But what about the mighty brought so low? The fact
that Sean Combs is now dealing in kans of mackerel
behind bars. But the significance of this is not just
the fish in a can, it's trading it for what
What is he trading it for?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is someone going to testify for him?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Is there a deal in the works of some sort,
Because we know, especially from a recent New York Times article,
his life behind bars is monotonous, bad checks mackerel. His
digs have been upgraded. We found out about that. But
this is a time for him to focus on his trial.
(07:29):
What do you make of the request for a delay?
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Yeah, Nancy, Well, luckily there's no crime against possession with
the intended distribute macro, so he won't be We're seeing
an added of charge on that. Hey, look, delay is
a common tactic on behalf of the defense.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What they're arguing is that.
Speaker 9 (07:46):
There were some messages and information regarding one of the
alleged victims that was not turned over and that they
need more time to go through that. They're claiming that
there were like two hundred thousand items that that were
not turned over from the prosecution, and so defense is
going to use that by saying, hey, we're being ambush'.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
This is we're being bombarded. We have no time to
prepare for this. We need some more time. Judge, I
would not be.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No time hold on whoa whoa whoa no time calla
Brantley joining me, investigative reporter with Daily Email dot Com
and star of the Trial of DDY podcast Cala. Don't
you remember at the get go how Sean Combs was
railing about going to jail and how he can't wait
to get in court to prove his innocence. But now
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we hear they're wanting a delay.
Speaker 10 (08:32):
Yeah, Nancy, well did He has been behind bars since September.
That's eight months now and he still has a little
bit less than a month to go. So one would
think that he would try to, you know, get into
core plead his innocence. But when you think about it,
eight months for all of the evidence that they owe through,
for all the witnesses that his team has to you know,
(08:54):
collect and all that there is to prepare. Eight months
really hasn't been that much time to bring forth a
solid case.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, Diddy is pouring over documents and trading mat behind bars.
We learned that he's actually gotten an upgrade at the MDC.
That's right, did he got an upgrade?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (09:14):
Well, the public has been led to believe Sean Diddy
Combs is languishing in a tiny cell at the NBC.
It turns out the disgraced mogul is having a blast
behind bars. Combs has been moved to the lowest security
unit in the prison for North, where he has access
to a tablet, cards, music, TV movies, ping pong, air hockey,
and even a peep show. Who needs expensive freak offs
(09:35):
when you can spy on female inmates through a grate
in the floor.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Speaking of expensive free cough parties, parties for him, not
for the women that were allegedly raped, all on video.
We understand that video is going to be introduced at
the trial. I'm going to get to that first. My
head is spinning because I just heard basketball, ping pong.
I happen to know that there are yoga classes. What
(10:01):
I mean, hey, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, what kind of spa
are you running? Yoga? Basketball, ping pong? Laptop?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What? He's now in the fourth north dorm style living?
What yoga?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Yes, sir, he's over in the East building.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Uh, there's a million square feet of space over at
the NBC and there's the east of the West building
and typically.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Let me just drink that in.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Hold on, did you say a million square feet of space?
Hold on, let me throw something at you. Microwaves, exercise balls,
exercise matts, movies, music that you pick your individual selection tablets,
(10:52):
what lasagna, Knight, pasta, fazoul, radios, watches in the commissary.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I mean, this is my handwriting.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm sure I wrote it, but can that be correct?
Speaker 7 (11:02):
All is correct except for the microwaves.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
They took the microwaves out back in twenty twelve. The
inmates do have access to hot water at a temperature
about one hundred and eighty degrees, so they can warm
up packets of rice or other new way.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Why do they take the microwave away?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Were they heating up liquid and throwing it on each other?
There's such a fun bunch.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Cooking, you know, you can imagine. Guys get very creative.
They cook all types of things.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean for sure.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
So we took the microwaves back in twenty twelve for
security reasons.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
But yet they do have access to hot water. But yeah,
is pleased.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
How can you look at me with a straight face
and say the microwaves were taken away from because of
their creative cooking And you can imagine, you mean, like
cooking up a molotov? What why were the microwaves taken away?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Now, try to tell the truth.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I'm telling the truth because they were cooking and then
taking parts off the microwave, making shanks and other things.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
So we just took them out.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Okay, I can only imagine what they were cooking out.
Let's see microwave exercise balls, floor mats, movies, music tablets
for purchase. I had no idea that you can buy
radios and watches at the NDC Commissary.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
True fault true.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
And you can buy music.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
You can download music through the commentsary, and there's several
thousands of songs.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
That you can download on to your particular radio.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
For list is it's supposed to be jail, Well, I mean.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
You got to have they have to have something to
monitor their time, especially in a jail situation where they're
not really taking re entry programs and different things of
that nature.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
So so do you think.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know what to Dodger Kimberly, Melman Roseco joining US
executive director Freedom Light and human trafficking expert witness, author
of hidden and playing site America Slaves of the New Millennium.
Dodger Kimberly, I wonder how the rape victims, and this
(13:01):
goes back twenty years.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's why they've.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Got a third superseding indictment. These indictments are multi count
all the women that claim that they were drugged, stripped
and raped on video, where guys would pose their limbs
(13:24):
to be raped on video. Wonder how they feel about
the exercise balls, the exercise mats, the yoga, the basketball,
the laptop, Lasagna, Knight. How do you think they feel
about Diddy kicked back watching his favorite movie right now?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think that is certainly an area of concern.
Speaker 12 (13:47):
I think when you expect punishment, when you expect pentons,
when you expect incarceration, you expect to see a lot
of the freedoms and luxuries of life taken away.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And I think to some extent that has happened.
Speaker 12 (13:58):
But I think that when you're hearing that they're engaging
in other forms of currency and downloading music and having
leisurely exchanges with each other is an area of concern,
and I think it would be disconcerting to his alleged victims.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Cala Brantley joining me dailymail dot Com investigative Report and
star of the Trial of Ditty, Kelly, you and I
were talking just yesterday about the very likely trial delay
at Sean Cone's request. But can I get you to
focus in hone in on Ditty's upgrade behind bars, yoga mats,
(14:47):
exercise balls, lasagna night, When did this happen?
Speaker 10 (14:50):
And Nancy, while it might sound like Ditty's having a
great time with you know, the yoga mats and the
exercise balls and the movies, if you look at these
pictures that are on the screen right now, this is
did he in the club holding up an expensive bottle
of tequila? Did he with the crown on his head
as if he's a king of the castle, you know
(15:10):
him with shots right there? He is a far cry
from where he was. So while it might sound like
you know it's mad when you're going from living in
the lap of luxury to a eight x ten cell.
That's a big difference. So I'm sure he's not having
the greatest time of all behind bars.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Whobo hold on, Caleb Brantley,
Wait a minute. I don't think you're completely familiar with
the need housing situation? Did he is enjoying? It's more
of a.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Dorm style listen.
Speaker 13 (15:43):
Combs is now housed in a dorm style unit of
the MDC, reserved for up to twenty high profile prisoners.
For North is known to have looser rules than Jen
Pop and both marginally better meals than what Combs was
receiving on Suicide Watch, including chicken sandw hot dogs, and
wings in addition to many forms of entertainment. Combs has
(16:05):
allowed three hundred minutes of phone time each month, but
still does not get a pillow for his less than
twin sized bed.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Chicken sandwiches, hot dogs, wings, three hundred minutes.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Of phone time? What this is a dorm style situation?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's not sitting in an eight y eleven jail sale.
He has definitely gotten an upgrade. I mean, I don't
get lasagna night.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
No, I agree.
Speaker 10 (16:30):
I think he definitely has gotten an upgrade, that's for sure.
But he's not in a five star hotel. He's not
in the mansions that he's used to, he's not having
his butler's get him cheesecake at three am, and he's
certainly not having caviat or filet mignon. So while it
is an upgrade, it's still not to the level and
the status that he's accustomed to. So he still is
(16:53):
definitely in some type of detention. While for you know
a lot of us normal people it might seem, you know,
knock that bad. For him coming from his status, it
is a huge change.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Shawn Combs pleads not guilty to additional charges brought forth
in his federal sex trafficking case. As his trial looms ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
This as we learn not only does Shaun Combs want
a big delay that's the defense attorney's best friend, but
we are learning that the freak Off video videos will
very likely be brought into evidence by the state.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Listen Seawan.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
Comebs pleads not guilty to the new charges, his legal
team contending the allegations are not new. His defense claims
the accusers remain the same former long term girlfriends who
engaged in a consensual sexual relationship with the rapper. Combs
insists the escapades that prosecutors refer to as freakoffs were
not coerced commercial acts, but joint decisions between romantic partners
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to bring other partners into their bed. Combs claims the
freakoff tape pepes prosecutors plan to submit his evidence will
queerly show all parties are active and eager participants.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Straight out to Chris McDonough joining me, director Colcase Foundation,
former homicide to take a star of the interview room
on YouTube where I found him, but from my purposes
right now, he was also a vice investigator, Chris mcdona.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oldest defense in the book. Quote she asked for it.
That's their defense with all those high powered lawyers, and
they've just added I believe Mark Garrigos and Brian Steele
both with him. I unfamiliar that said, same old, same own,
same old, same old.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
She asked for it. It's consensual.
Speaker 11 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (18:44):
How many times have we heard this, right, Nancy, in
all the years that you've been doing this. I mean,
of course it is right. I mean you always fly
in other sex workers from around the United States for
a consensual contact. I mean, this is absolutely uh you know, classic,
It's right in line with his personality. And you know,
(19:07):
if if all those right, those watches are going to
come in handy because he's gonna be able to watch
that time for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well. Put, guys, uh, get this, doctor Bethany Marshall, Listen
to this analysis. Shawn Holmes is going to have to
say with a straight face to a jury as they
are watching a freak off the video which has been
purported to be women who have been doped, naked, covered
(19:37):
in baby oil, with guys positioning their limbs to get
a better angle as they are being raped. That's what
we've been told. Maybe it's completely wrong. But if it
is wrong, why is the state trying to introduce it?
But listen to this, doctor Bethany. The defense is these
women were all his girlfriends, some of them long term,
(19:58):
who engaged in can sensual sex with the rapper. Wait
a minute, does that include Cassie Ventura. We got a
little peek into their quote consensual relationship. Here she is
walking barefoot down a hotel hallway a corridor. Ooh, look
who's coming it's Sean comes and he is actually chasing
(20:21):
her in nothing but a towel. Not what I want
to open my door at the hotel and see throw
That doesn't look consensual to me. Dr Bethany, I hope
you're watching. Look at this grabbing her stuff. Yes, she's
not going anywhere, and she just lays there and plays
dead as a defense, and he literally drags her off
by her neck. Now, according to what we've been told,
(20:45):
Cassie Ventura was trying to get away from one of
these free coughs that he was having in his hotel room.
Now it's not over yet. There he goes, stomping off
like a spoiled brat.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's not over.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Go ahead, they get through there go oh wow, there
goes two thousand dollars of a vase. So is this
an Oh guys, that's from our friends at CNN. I'd
like to report. The defense is arguing that CNN doctored that. Oh, okay,
try that with a jury, just like your claim that
this encounter, well, actually it was an aggravated assault with
(21:23):
feet and fist. Was consensual? Okay, hit me, Doctor Bethany,
consensual my rear end?
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Okay, Nancy, I call this the swinger defense. He's going
to say that he and his female partners were swingers,
meaning that they consensually brought in other couples or other
individuals who were also swingers. But this does not meet
criteria for this sexual subculture. In swingers culture, usually in
(21:51):
if there's a heterosexual couple, they will bring in one
or two women if they do not bring in other men.
So if there was an expert on this, and there
are certainly experts in my field who work with groups
of people who are all in sexual configurations, maybe multiple partners,
they would say that this not only does sex traffic
(22:12):
workers not meet criteria, but the very configuration of how
they're throwing these parties doesn't meet criteria. Criteria Also, the
aggression towards Cassie Ventura. In swinger communities, everybody is very harmonious.
They're there because they want to be there.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did these lawyers want potential jurors questioned about their willingness
to watch sensitive content in a move some experts speculate
could mean the infamous freak Off videos will be shown
to the jury at trial.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Eric Fattus, I'm sure you, like me, have conducted many,
many whata Dyers. In fact, I don't have any nightmares
about trying case. Is that's where I'm the happiest, Like
a bird out of a cage. I feel better trying
a case than being out of the courtroom. But that said,
(23:07):
I do have one recurring nightmare, and it is the
impaneling questions.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
When you first strike.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
A jury, you ask the jury four or five impaneling questions,
and if any of them raise their hand, they can't
be on the jury, such as are you a resident
of in my case, Fulton County, Inner City Atlanta? And
if they are not, then they're immediately off the jury.
There's several impaneling questions. In this bad dream, I always
(23:37):
stand up and I can't find and can't remember the
impaneling questions. Then we have to break. Okay, that's my
big nightmare. That said, have you ever ever encountered a
request to conduct Voi Dyer jury selection without talking to
the jur rs.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
I haven't seen something go that far.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
I've certainly seen juror questionnaires, and I've been involved in
cases that have that, you know, But part of the
purpose brings the thought.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Of course, there's GERR questionnaires for Pete's sake. There's always
jurrr questionnaires, but they want to conduct voda or jury
selection in writing.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
No, it seems like a misfire to me, because you
need the juris to expound upon their answer. Sometimes the
jury put you know, one two word answer. You gotta
know what that means. You want to ask them. You
want to see their demeanor. You want to see, you know,
when you're talking about freakoffs and sex videos. You want
to see who has a guest at that, because those folks,
from a defense perspective, are are folks who don't want
(24:35):
on the jury, And so just written questionnaire seems a
little too sterile, a little too neutral. I think there
needs to be some interpersonal communication with these jurors to
learn it precisely how they feel, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Doctor Bethany Marshall. It's because of the freakoff tapes. The
defans is worried. Obviously, they're so worried about the freak
off tapes that they're trying to specifically select gerrs that
won't be upset when they see whatever's on those tapes.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
But tours who won't be upset are jurors who are
acculturated to those kinds of situations. Maybe they've gone to
those kinds of parties, or they think that, you know,
this kind of sexual activity is okay. So those kinds
of durors are likely not to find P. Diddy guilty.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Okay, I understand where you're coming from, but I don't
know how that's really going to play out once they
see these videos. And I have reason to believe that
more than one free cough tape will be presented at trial.
I mean Sidney summer. You and I remember when the
raid went down. There were boxes and boxes and bags
and bags of video video equipment, one thousand balls of
(25:43):
baby oil and more taken out of the home the mansion.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That tells me there's a lot of video Sydney.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I would completely agree, Nancy. There's got to be hundreds
of tapes at least. I mean to Tony, he claims
he had one hundred and twenty victims. That's just a
ballpark number. And we know that these super skating indictments
also expanded the years that prosecutors claim this behavior went on.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And just think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So the defense is looking for men and women that
won't get upset when they see whatever is in those
freak off tapes. It's happening. The tapes are coming into evidence.
There's a lot of legal hoops you have to jump
through to get in video evidence, and you'd be totally
bored if Pattis and I talked about that. So I
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will move on to the fact that the defense wants
to select the jury through riding. Okay, that's not happening,
forget about it. But Sean Combs is quote lawyering up. Listen,
Sean Diddy.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Combs is making final adjustments to his defense team ahead
of the trial after Anthony Rico's sudden exit from the team.
Combs is reportedly moving to add celebrity attorney Mark Garret Ghost,
who has previously represented Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, Colin Kaepernick,
Jesse Small ed Garags's daughter Tenny is already part of
the team, and Garygos has reportedly been advising on the case,
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but he may take more of a lead role.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
In the courtroom.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Combs is reportedly also searching for a black woman willing
to represent him, possibly looking to diversify as some of
his previous arguments call the government's case racist.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, now we're hearing City Sumner that in the last
twenty four hours that Shawn Combs has added in Atlanta
Lawyer that I fairly will Brian Steele. Now let me
just give you my off the cuff reaction when I
would say Steele coming down the court on Courthouse Hall
at me to work a deal or we go to
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set it for trial. It wasn't revulsion. Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
He is a great lawyer, He's likable. He has a
really good way with a jury.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I could see him and Geira goes both frankly adding
a lot to the defense team. Steele did not just
fall off the turnip truck, and of course neither did
Mark Geaghos. So what's the thinking, I mean, what do
we know about this very recent decision. He's already got
a fleet of lawyers, So why is Hee adding Geargos
(28:26):
and Steel Nancy.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I think Diddy just wants every single person in his
corner that he can get. Only one who has defended
a similar case he wants in his corner. He wants
as many heads as possible working on how to make
that outcome not guilty.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, you know this is after one lawyer voluntarily left Ditty's.
Speaker 13 (28:51):
Defense just ahead of his sex trafficking and racketeering trial.
Anthony Rico, one of Combe's high powered defense attorneys, has
suddenly quit the case. Rico filed a brief motion asking
to be relieved of his duties, saying, quote, under no
circumstances can I continue to effectively serve as counsel for
Shawn Combs. Rico gives little context to the statement in
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the filing to protect attorney client privilege, but the withdrawal
seems to come with approval from lead attorney Mark Agnifhilo.
Rico promises his recusal will not delay trial or leave
Combs high and dry. With five other attorneys still actively
working on the case, Hunter.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Biden and Michael Jackson's former lawyer, Mark Gerrigos is rumored
to take up the task of defending Ditty in his
upcoming federal sex trafficking trial. Will he be successful?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
In addition to what we believe will be damning freak
off videos, And let me tell you, it's not just
one of them. Judging by what was taken out of
Shawn Combs's mansion, video equipment, videos, videos, videos, baby oil,
you name it. I'm anticipating a lot of videos being
produced at chial by the state, which is telling, but
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now more violence rears its ugly head as a damning
claim against did he listen?
Speaker 15 (30:16):
New details from an LAPD police report show neither Sean
or Justin Combs were questioned in relation to a twenty
twenty two shooting that Rodney Jones claimed happen inside Challis
Studios at the father and son's hands. The report claimed
surveillance video captured the victim being shot by Rudolph Flowers
as he got into his car parked a half block
from Challice. The victim then ran back to Challis for
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help and was found by officers sitting in a black
folding chair outside. Jones attorney Tyrone Blackburn says the police
report reflects the story Sean Combs instructed everyone to tell,
and points out the report makes no mention.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Of muzzle flashes in the video.
Speaker 15 (30:52):
Blackburn claims he has several witnesses to confirm Jones' version
of events, but has not revealed their identities.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Guys, you saw a commode totally covered in blood. That's
the incident we're talking about. Why was it Sean Combe's
question following this incident and why do we care.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
About this incident?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Because he goes hand in hand to prove that guns
and weapons may have been used as a threat on
the free Cough victims. We are the same thing over
and over and over. Specifically, listen. Record producer Rodney Litl.
Rod Jones claimed Shawn Comb sexually harassed, drugged, and threatened
him in a previous lawsuit, but now Jones says Combs
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and his son are involved in the shooting in an
LA recording studio challice, but Combs had the story changed
to where the shooting occurred blocks away from the studio.
Jones claims Comb's son, Justin, and her friend knowingly as
G got into a beef in the bathroom. A shot
is fired and Shawn Combs and his son Justin come
out of the bathroom, leaving G to bleed all over
the floor. Jones claims he takes G to a waiting
ambulance and he's taken to the hospital. Police reports indicate
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the shooting took place blocks away from the studio. The
significance of this prior shooting incident cannot be underestimated.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We have scores of.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Photos of the shooting scene afterwards, but for some reason,
Shawn Combs was never questioned and then somehow the story changed.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
To where the shooting occurred.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But we have the pictures of the blood, and it
goes hand in hand with the story that the victim
was propped up on a commode and EMT's recalled.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
How can that have happened at another location where the
photos prove it happened there.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Why would Shawn Colmbs lie about it?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This goes hand in hand with multiple shooting incidents.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Investigators may also be taking a second look into the
nineteen ninety nine Club New York shooting, based on allegations
in Rodney Jones lawsuit that Combs bragged about bribing witnesses
and jurors at trial, sharing that he pulled the trigger
that night, not Jamal Shine Berrow. Barrow served nearly nine
years in prison for opening fire and injuring three during
an altercation with another club goer while out celebrating a
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new record deal with Combs and his girlfriend at the time,
Jennifer Lopez. The lawsuit a ledge's Combs shared that Lopez
carried the gun and passed it to him during the altercation.
Victim Natanya Rubin, has also long insisted that Comb shot her,
not Arro Lopez was never charged in the shooting, and
Combs was acquitted of four counts criminal possession of a
weapon and bribery.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
If these allegations are brought in a similar transactions, Jennifer
Lopez may be dragged to this, dragged into this trial.
After all, the significance cannot be underestimated. Let me say
it again, introducing violence like this on these victims, and
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of course, in addition to the j Low incident, how
can we complete the conversation without mentioning the late the
Great to Pauk.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Shakur, Dwayne Keethy. D Davis blames credit for Tupac's murder
on bet and in his memoir he says Puffy Combs
wanted Night and Tupac's heads after their disc track hit
them up. When Davis offers to carry out the hits,
Combs agrees to pay him one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Eric Fattis gunshots, gunshot, wounds, shootouts, one victim after the next,
Tupac Shaker is dead. Then you have the shooting at
the studio where we just showed the pictures that corroborate
what the victim said, being propped up of on a.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Commode as he was bleeding out.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
He lived by the way to tell the tale, but
nobody's listening. Now you have more threats by gun Eric.
This is very serious. Forget about the mackerel and the
upgrade at the MDC. I'm very surprised that there is
a fourth superseding indictment on gun and gunshot charges.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Yeahnfi.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
It wouldn't be unusual when you look at the federal
rico charge of selling one thing, it alleges is a
pattern of conduct in which he uses his resources and
affiliates and sometimes violence to manipulate the legal system, to
intimidate witnesses, to tamper with evidence. And so these allegations
regarding these shootings go hand in hand with that that
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he is using that style of manipulation and that is
his approach, that's his strategy to try to keep himself
out of trouble, and so it wouldn't be unusual for
the prosecution to try to bring up those things as
either similar transactions or as additional charge defenses.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hid with more
charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the
musician use his power and status in the music industry
to coerce unknowing victims.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
This as we learn that the Shawn Kim's defense team
has to painted and demanding access to raw, unedited interviews
and materials from the investigation discovery documentary The Fall of
Ditty and I think I know why, Listen.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Combs's legal team is demanding access to the raw and
edited interview and materials from the investigation discovery documentary The
Fall of Ditty. The defense is also asking for any
notes or journals sent to the series producers and records
of any payments that may have been made to two
specific interviewees, Combs's former chef, referred to as Individual A
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and Individual B, a former girlfriend. The chef spoke out
about how Combs treated her, as well as rumors she
heard about Combs's behavior while his ex girlfriend discussed their relationship,
including an alleged incident of sexual assault. Legal reps for
parent company Warner Brothers are asking the New York judge
to squash the subpoena, citing reporters privilege.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Sidney Sumner investigative reporter, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I think that Shawn Comes's defense team wants all the
outtakes to that particular documentary and probably others similar to it.
They want to see what landed on the cutting room floor.
They want to see if there's anything that was edited
out that they can use to cross examine these potential witnesses.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I think that's what.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
They're after most definitely, Nancy. They're looking for anything exculpatory,
anything that is contrary to what the general narrative is.
They want to make Combs not look like this monster,
but a thoughder figure with a weird sex life.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
All of this is brewing as the state suffers a blow.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Now it may not seem.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Like a blow to you, but it is a blow.
A major claim against Sean Combs's colleague and longtime friend,
Jay Z has been dropped amid a lot, a lot
of controversy.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I want you to hear Jane Doe.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Now, this is a client that Tony Busby who was
going up against jay Z. This was one of his clients,
Busby's clients. Listen to her caught on the phone with
jay Z's private investigator. He was there that he didn't
have anything to do with.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
The any sexual acts towards you. It was strictly yeah,
he was the.
Speaker 14 (38:23):
One that kind of pushed me towards going.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Forward with him with jay Z. Buzzbyda Yeah. You know
why that secretly recorded conversation is from our friends at
ABC Sidney Sumner. That was a major blow because if
it is suggested that Tony Buzzy fabricated a case against
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jay Z. You see where I'm going with this. It's
going to be alleged he fabricated cases against Sean Comes.
That's where that is headed. That is why a victory
for jay Z. I mean that old case was dismissed
and jay Z said from the get go that didn't happen. Now,
if Buzzby is somehow discredited, his other claims can be
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discredited to claims against Sean Combs, including potential victims and
the criminal case.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
See yes, this could be potentially devastating for all of
the victims that Buzzy claims to represent. And that's exactly
what jay Z is accusing him of is in this
defamation lawsuit, jay Z says Busby made the whole thing up,
he pushed his client to do this. But an important
distinction the victim Jane Doe, who is on that recording
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saying those things had now come back and said, you know,
I was terrified when these pis showed up on my doorstep.
I said whatever I thought they wanted me to say,
so that they would leave me alone. Because she filed
this anonymously, her name is Jane Doe. That's all we
know about this victim, and she has done a few
(40:03):
public anonymous interviews, but she does not want her name
out there. So the fact that these two pis showed
up on her doorstep unannounced was purifying for her.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Is it the beginning?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Is it the first domino and a whole series of
dominoes to fall for the state. I don't think so,
but it does present a problem. We wait as justice
and folds. And now we remember an American hero police
officer Eddie Mundo Junior, Lagrange Police Kentucky, killed in the
line of duty a US Marine Corvette, survived by grieving
(40:38):
wife Brandy and son Julian American hero officer Eddie Mundo Junior.
Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace mac Daddy. Yeah you heard
me right.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Seawan Combs aka Diddy, now humiliated as he is forced
to use one dollar cans of mackerel fish.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
As jail currency.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What happened to the private jets, the private chef, all
of those minions at his beck and call? He is
dealing in mac mackerel? This in a bombshell bid for
a trial delay. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
(00:46):
Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hit with more
charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the
musician use his power and status in the music industry
to coerce unknowing victims.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I wouldn't put it past the fase at this juncture.
There is now a third superseding indictment to add more
charges because we are learning more about an alleged shooting
that went down in a studio. But first, can we
get to the canned mackerel?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay? Listen to this?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
In made three seven four or five two dash zero
five to four, otherwise known as Sean Diddy Combs will
be housed in four North at the Metropolitan Detention Center
for at least forty eight more days if his trial
begins on time. Colms has spent most of his time
in the unit's visiting room with his lawyers or the
(01:41):
video call room with his laptop that cannot access the
Internet to work through the mountain of evidence that prosecutors
have turned over. Colms exorbitant monetary value hasn't gotten him anywhere.
Behind bars, forced to use a more humiliating currency instead
of cash, in mates trade packets of mackerel known as max,
(02:03):
on sale at the commissary for one dollar each.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Boo hoo, poor diddy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All those millions and millions, some people say, a billion
dollars of net worth and he's trading cans of mackerel
for favors behind bars. Got an all star panel lined up,
but first straight out to crime stories investigative reporters Sydney Summer,
Sydney canned mackerel.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
What great, Nancy. That's the only form of currency that
they can come up with behind bars at the Metropolitan
Detention Center. So there's obviously no exchange of cash. And
from what we've heard before, we know that the commissary
is pretty strict they don't really allow you to stock
pile things. You can only spend one hundred and eighty
(02:47):
dollars in commissary every two weeks. So the inmate could
come up with the system where they trade these packets
of tuna as a dollar. They cost a dollar in
the commissary. So if you needed something that would have
cost five dollars, but they wouldn't let you buy it
from commissary, you can hand me five packets of mackerel instead.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, So Shawn Corimbs is now a.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Mac dealer, apparently, Nancy.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay, First, Sydney, let me correct you. It's a subtle
but important distinction. Mackerel is not tuna. But that said,
the gist of your reporting is correct. Now, joining me
a special guest, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Associate Warden, MDC
in Brooklyn, former Senior warden with the US Department of Justice,
(03:36):
Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder president a New Daylight Foundation,
author of who Are You See It? Say It, Seize It?
And you can find him at New dlightfoundation dot com.
Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, So, Shawn Corimbs is now a macdealer.
Did you realize that the humiliation he must be going
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through all those millions, all those designers closed drenched in jewelry,
dope chains.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Around his neck.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and now he's
shuffling cans of mackerel. Really, did you know about the
black market currency of dealing in mac behind bars?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Well, as they say in prison, commissary is currency, and
a lot of those individuals, once they immersed themselves in
the jail of prison culture, they used commissary to pay
off debts to get favors. I know they were early
reporting when he first got there, the inmates for doing
his laundry for him.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
So they use those items.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What who who wait whoa whoa wait wait wait wait
wait wait okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, hold on, Hendrix, don't move.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Joining me.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Are now in Psychoanalyst out of Beverly Hills, Joining us,
Doctor Bethany Marshalls at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com, author
of deal Breaker. You can see her now on Peacock,
Doctor Bethany, did you hear what he just said? Wherever
Sean Combs goes, he has a fleet of minions. So
before he could order cheesecake at three o'clock in the
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morning and actually get somebody to go out and get it.
People waiting on him, hand and foot, surrounded by a
phalanx of as.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I said, minions.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Now he's got minions making up his bed and cleaning.
How hard is it to pull one blanket up? You
got to get another inmate to do that for you.
I know this means something.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
But what Okay, Nancy, I guess he did. He needs staff, right, Seriously,
I've compared his culture of sex trafficking to a cult
where he's always the leader and the benefits flow towards him,
and I think he's creating that same culture in behind bars, Nancy.
You know the mackerel is currency. I once worked with
(05:55):
a female consultant who work with women behind bars, and
they would take Jolly ramcher candies. They would melt them
down in the microwave and use them as bildos. They
would sell them.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
They would pass.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Them around as some kind of favor. So you know
he did. He had billions before. Now he has kans
of mackerel. He's going to use whatever he has.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Okay, I'm just trying to take everything you just said
with a box of salt. What is happening with Diddi
behind bars, this as he makes a bombshell bid for
a trial delay. Eric Fattest joining me, renowned attorney, joining us,
founding partner Varner Fattest, elite Legal Eric Fattest, Delay, Delay, Delay,
(06:43):
But what about the mighty brought so low? The fact
that Sean Combs is now dealing in kans of mackerel
behind bars. But the significance of this is not just
the fish in a can, it's trading it for what
What is he trading it for?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is someone going to testify for him?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Is there a deal in the works of some sort,
Because we know, especially from a recent New York Times article,
his life behind bars is monotonous, bad checks mackerel. His
digs have been upgraded. We found out about that. But
this is a time for him to focus on his trial.
(07:29):
What do you make of the request for a delay?
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Yeah, Nancy, Well, luckily there's no crime against possession with
the intended distribute macro, so he won't be We're seeing
an added of charge on that. Hey, look, delay is
a common tactic on behalf of the defense.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What they're arguing is that.
Speaker 9 (07:46):
There were some messages and information regarding one of the
alleged victims that was not turned over and that they
need more time to go through that. They're claiming that
there were like two hundred thousand items that that were
not turned over from the prosecution, and so defense is
going to use that by saying, hey, we're being ambush'.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
This is we're being bombarded. We have no time to
prepare for this. We need some more time. Judge, I
would not be.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No time hold on whoa whoa whoa no time calla
Brantley joining me, investigative reporter with Daily Email dot Com
and star of the Trial of DDY podcast Cala. Don't
you remember at the get go how Sean Combs was
railing about going to jail and how he can't wait
to get in court to prove his innocence. But now
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we hear they're wanting a delay.
Speaker 10 (08:32):
Yeah, Nancy, well did He has been behind bars since September.
That's eight months now and he still has a little
bit less than a month to go. So one would
think that he would try to, you know, get into
core plead his innocence. But when you think about it,
eight months for all of the evidence that they owe through,
for all the witnesses that his team has to you know,
(08:54):
collect and all that there is to prepare. Eight months
really hasn't been that much time to bring forth a
solid case.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, Diddy is pouring over documents and trading mat behind bars.
We learned that he's actually gotten an upgrade at the MDC.
That's right, did he got an upgrade?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (09:14):
Well, the public has been led to believe Sean Diddy
Combs is languishing in a tiny cell at the NBC.
It turns out the disgraced mogul is having a blast
behind bars. Combs has been moved to the lowest security
unit in the prison for North, where he has access
to a tablet, cards, music, TV movies, ping pong, air hockey,
and even a peep show. Who needs expensive freak offs
(09:35):
when you can spy on female inmates through a grate
in the floor.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Speaking of expensive free cough parties, parties for him, not
for the women that were allegedly raped, all on video.
We understand that video is going to be introduced at
the trial. I'm going to get to that first. My
head is spinning because I just heard basketball, ping pong.
I happen to know that there are yoga classes. What
(10:01):
I mean, hey, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, what kind of spa
are you running? Yoga? Basketball, ping pong? Laptop?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What? He's now in the fourth north dorm style living?
What yoga?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Yes, sir, he's over in the East building.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Uh, there's a million square feet of space over at
the NBC and there's the east of the West building
and typically.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Let me just drink that in.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Hold on, did you say a million square feet of space?
Hold on, let me throw something at you. Microwaves, exercise balls,
exercise matts, movies, music that you pick your individual selection tablets,
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what lasagna, Knight, pasta, fazoul, radios, watches in the commissary.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I mean, this is my handwriting.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm sure I wrote it, but can that be correct?
Speaker 7 (11:02):
All is correct except for the microwaves.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
They took the microwaves out back in twenty twelve. The
inmates do have access to hot water at a temperature
about one hundred and eighty degrees, so they can warm
up packets of rice or other new way.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Why do they take the microwave away?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Were they heating up liquid and throwing it on each other?
There's such a fun bunch.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Cooking, you know, you can imagine. Guys get very creative.
They cook all types of things.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean for sure.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
So we took the microwaves back in twenty twelve for
security reasons.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
But yet they do have access to hot water. But yeah,
is pleased.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
How can you look at me with a straight face
and say the microwaves were taken away from because of
their creative cooking And you can imagine, you mean, like
cooking up a molotov? What why were the microwaves taken away?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Now, try to tell the truth.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I'm telling the truth because they were cooking and then
taking parts off the microwave, making shanks and other things.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
So we just took them out.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Okay, I can only imagine what they were cooking out.
Let's see microwave exercise balls, floor mats, movies, music tablets
for purchase. I had no idea that you can buy
radios and watches at the NDC Commissary.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
True fault true.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
And you can buy music.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
You can download music through the commentsary, and there's several
thousands of songs.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
That you can download on to your particular radio.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
For list is it's supposed to be jail, Well, I mean.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
You got to have they have to have something to
monitor their time, especially in a jail situation where they're
not really taking re entry programs and different things of
that nature.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
So so do you think.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know what to Dodger Kimberly, Melman Roseco joining US
executive director Freedom Light and human trafficking expert witness, author
of hidden and playing site America Slaves of the New Millennium.
Dodger Kimberly, I wonder how the rape victims, and this
(13:01):
goes back twenty years.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's why they've.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Got a third superseding indictment. These indictments are multi count
all the women that claim that they were drugged, stripped
and raped on video, where guys would pose their limbs
(13:24):
to be raped on video. Wonder how they feel about
the exercise balls, the exercise mats, the yoga, the basketball,
the laptop, Lasagna, Knight. How do you think they feel
about Diddy kicked back watching his favorite movie right now?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think that is certainly an area of concern.
Speaker 12 (13:47):
I think when you expect punishment, when you expect pentons,
when you expect incarceration, you expect to see a lot
of the freedoms and luxuries of life taken away.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And I think to some extent that has happened.
Speaker 12 (13:58):
But I think that when you're hearing that they're engaging
in other forms of currency and downloading music and having
leisurely exchanges with each other is an area of concern,
and I think it would be disconcerting to his alleged victims.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Cala Brantley joining me dailymail dot Com investigative Report and
star of the Trial of Ditty, Kelly, you and I
were talking just yesterday about the very likely trial delay
at Sean Cone's request. But can I get you to
focus in hone in on Ditty's upgrade behind bars, yoga mats,
(14:47):
exercise balls, lasagna night, When did this happen?
Speaker 10 (14:50):
And Nancy, while it might sound like Ditty's having a
great time with you know, the yoga mats and the
exercise balls and the movies, if you look at these
pictures that are on the screen right now, this is
did he in the club holding up an expensive bottle
of tequila? Did he with the crown on his head
as if he's a king of the castle, you know
(15:10):
him with shots right there? He is a far cry
from where he was. So while it might sound like
you know it's mad when you're going from living in
the lap of luxury to a eight x ten cell.
That's a big difference. So I'm sure he's not having
the greatest time of all behind bars.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Whobo hold on, Caleb Brantley,
Wait a minute. I don't think you're completely familiar with
the need housing situation? Did he is enjoying? It's more
of a.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Dorm style listen.
Speaker 13 (15:43):
Combs is now housed in a dorm style unit of
the MDC, reserved for up to twenty high profile prisoners.
For North is known to have looser rules than Jen
Pop and both marginally better meals than what Combs was
receiving on Suicide Watch, including chicken sandw hot dogs, and
wings in addition to many forms of entertainment. Combs has
(16:05):
allowed three hundred minutes of phone time each month, but
still does not get a pillow for his less than
twin sized bed.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Chicken sandwiches, hot dogs, wings, three hundred minutes.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Of phone time? What this is a dorm style situation?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's not sitting in an eight y eleven jail sale.
He has definitely gotten an upgrade. I mean, I don't
get lasagna night.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
No, I agree.
Speaker 10 (16:30):
I think he definitely has gotten an upgrade, that's for sure.
But he's not in a five star hotel. He's not
in the mansions that he's used to, he's not having
his butler's get him cheesecake at three am, and he's
certainly not having caviat or filet mignon. So while it
is an upgrade, it's still not to the level and
the status that he's accustomed to. So he still is
(16:53):
definitely in some type of detention. While for you know
a lot of us normal people it might seem, you know,
knock that bad. For him coming from his status, it
is a huge change.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Shawn Combs pleads not guilty to additional charges brought forth
in his federal sex trafficking case. As his trial looms ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
This as we learn not only does Shaun Combs want
a big delay that's the defense attorney's best friend, but
we are learning that the freak Off video videos will
very likely be brought into evidence by the state.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Listen Seawan.
Speaker 13 (17:33):
Comebs pleads not guilty to the new charges, his legal
team contending the allegations are not new. His defense claims
the accusers remain the same former long term girlfriends who
engaged in a consensual sexual relationship with the rapper. Combs
insists the escapades that prosecutors refer to as freakoffs were
not coerced commercial acts, but joint decisions between romantic partners
(17:56):
to bring other partners into their bed. Combs claims the
freakoff tape pepes prosecutors plan to submit his evidence will
queerly show all parties are active and eager participants.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Straight out to Chris McDonough joining me, director Colcase Foundation,
former homicide to take a star of the interview room
on YouTube where I found him, but from my purposes
right now, he was also a vice investigator, Chris mcdona.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oldest defense in the book. Quote she asked for it.
That's their defense with all those high powered lawyers, and
they've just added I believe Mark Garrigos and Brian Steele
both with him. I unfamiliar that said, same old, same own,
same old, same old.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
She asked for it. It's consensual.
Speaker 11 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (18:44):
How many times have we heard this, right, Nancy, in
all the years that you've been doing this. I mean,
of course it is right. I mean you always fly
in other sex workers from around the United States for
a consensual contact. I mean, this is absolutely uh you know, classic,
It's right in line with his personality. And you know,
(19:07):
if if all those right, those watches are going to
come in handy because he's gonna be able to watch
that time for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well. Put, guys, uh, get this, doctor Bethany Marshall, Listen
to this analysis. Shawn Holmes is going to have to
say with a straight face to a jury as they
are watching a freak off the video which has been
purported to be women who have been doped, naked, covered
(19:37):
in baby oil, with guys positioning their limbs to get
a better angle as they are being raped. That's what
we've been told. Maybe it's completely wrong. But if it
is wrong, why is the state trying to introduce it?
But listen to this, doctor Bethany. The defense is these
women were all his girlfriends, some of them long term,
(19:58):
who engaged in can sensual sex with the rapper. Wait
a minute, does that include Cassie Ventura. We got a
little peek into their quote consensual relationship. Here she is
walking barefoot down a hotel hallway a corridor. Ooh, look
who's coming it's Sean comes and he is actually chasing
(20:21):
her in nothing but a towel. Not what I want
to open my door at the hotel and see throw
That doesn't look consensual to me. Dr Bethany, I hope
you're watching. Look at this grabbing her stuff. Yes, she's
not going anywhere, and she just lays there and plays
dead as a defense, and he literally drags her off
by her neck. Now, according to what we've been told,
(20:45):
Cassie Ventura was trying to get away from one of
these free coughs that he was having in his hotel room.
Now it's not over yet. There he goes, stomping off
like a spoiled brat.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's not over.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Go ahead, they get through there go oh wow, there
goes two thousand dollars of a vase. So is this
an Oh guys, that's from our friends at CNN. I'd
like to report. The defense is arguing that CNN doctored that. Oh, okay,
try that with a jury, just like your claim that
this encounter, well, actually it was an aggravated assault with
(21:23):
feet and fist. Was consensual? Okay, hit me, Doctor Bethany,
consensual my rear end?
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Okay, Nancy, I call this the swinger defense. He's going
to say that he and his female partners were swingers,
meaning that they consensually brought in other couples or other
individuals who were also swingers. But this does not meet
criteria for this sexual subculture. In swingers culture, usually in
(21:51):
if there's a heterosexual couple, they will bring in one
or two women if they do not bring in other men.
So if there was an expert on this, and there
are certainly experts in my field who work with groups
of people who are all in sexual configurations, maybe multiple partners,
they would say that this not only does sex traffic
(22:12):
workers not meet criteria, but the very configuration of how
they're throwing these parties doesn't meet criteria. Criteria Also, the
aggression towards Cassie Ventura. In swinger communities, everybody is very harmonious.
They're there because they want to be there.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did these lawyers want potential jurors questioned about their willingness
to watch sensitive content in a move some experts speculate
could mean the infamous freak Off videos will be shown
to the jury at trial.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Eric Fattus, I'm sure you, like me, have conducted many,
many whata Dyers. In fact, I don't have any nightmares
about trying case. Is that's where I'm the happiest, Like
a bird out of a cage. I feel better trying
a case than being out of the courtroom. But that said,
(23:07):
I do have one recurring nightmare, and it is the
impaneling questions.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
When you first strike.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
A jury, you ask the jury four or five impaneling questions,
and if any of them raise their hand, they can't
be on the jury, such as are you a resident
of in my case, Fulton County, Inner City Atlanta? And
if they are not, then they're immediately off the jury.
There's several impaneling questions. In this bad dream, I always
(23:37):
stand up and I can't find and can't remember the
impaneling questions. Then we have to break. Okay, that's my
big nightmare. That said, have you ever ever encountered a
request to conduct Voi Dyer jury selection without talking to
the jur rs.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
I haven't seen something go that far.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
I've certainly seen juror questionnaires, and I've been involved in
cases that have that, you know, But part of the
purpose brings the thought.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Of course, there's GERR questionnaires for Pete's sake. There's always
jurrr questionnaires, but they want to conduct voda or jury
selection in writing.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
No, it seems like a misfire to me, because you
need the juris to expound upon their answer. Sometimes the
jury put you know, one two word answer. You gotta
know what that means. You want to ask them. You
want to see their demeanor. You want to see, you know,
when you're talking about freakoffs and sex videos. You want
to see who has a guest at that, because those folks,
from a defense perspective, are are folks who don't want
(24:35):
on the jury, And so just written questionnaire seems a
little too sterile, a little too neutral. I think there
needs to be some interpersonal communication with these jurors to
learn it precisely how they feel, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Doctor Bethany Marshall. It's because of the freakoff tapes. The
defans is worried. Obviously, they're so worried about the freak
off tapes that they're trying to specifically select gerrs that
won't be upset when they see whatever's on those tapes.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
But tours who won't be upset are jurors who are
acculturated to those kinds of situations. Maybe they've gone to
those kinds of parties, or they think that, you know,
this kind of sexual activity is okay. So those kinds
of durors are likely not to find P. Diddy guilty.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Okay, I understand where you're coming from, but I don't
know how that's really going to play out once they
see these videos. And I have reason to believe that
more than one free cough tape will be presented at trial.
I mean Sidney summer. You and I remember when the
raid went down. There were boxes and boxes and bags
and bags of video video equipment, one thousand balls of
(25:43):
baby oil and more taken out of the home the mansion.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That tells me there's a lot of video Sydney.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I would completely agree, Nancy. There's got to be hundreds
of tapes at least. I mean to Tony, he claims
he had one hundred and twenty victims. That's just a
ballpark number. And we know that these super skating indictments
also expanded the years that prosecutors claim this behavior went on.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And just think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So the defense is looking for men and women that
won't get upset when they see whatever is in those
freak off tapes. It's happening. The tapes are coming into evidence.
There's a lot of legal hoops you have to jump
through to get in video evidence, and you'd be totally
bored if Pattis and I talked about that. So I
(26:35):
will move on to the fact that the defense wants
to select the jury through riding. Okay, that's not happening,
forget about it. But Sean Combs is quote lawyering up. Listen,
Sean Diddy.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Combs is making final adjustments to his defense team ahead
of the trial after Anthony Rico's sudden exit from the team.
Combs is reportedly moving to add celebrity attorney Mark Garret Ghost,
who has previously represented Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, Colin Kaepernick,
Jesse Small ed Garags's daughter Tenny is already part of
the team, and Garygos has reportedly been advising on the case,
(27:11):
but he may take more of a lead role.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
In the courtroom.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Combs is reportedly also searching for a black woman willing
to represent him, possibly looking to diversify as some of
his previous arguments call the government's case racist.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, now we're hearing City Sumner that in the last
twenty four hours that Shawn Combs has added in Atlanta
Lawyer that I fairly will Brian Steele. Now let me
just give you my off the cuff reaction when I
would say Steele coming down the court on Courthouse Hall
at me to work a deal or we go to
(27:48):
set it for trial. It wasn't revulsion. Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
He is a great lawyer, He's likable. He has a
really good way with a jury.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I could see him and Geira goes both frankly adding
a lot to the defense team. Steele did not just
fall off the turnip truck, and of course neither did
Mark Geaghos. So what's the thinking, I mean, what do
we know about this very recent decision. He's already got
a fleet of lawyers, So why is Hee adding Geargos
(28:26):
and Steel Nancy.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I think Diddy just wants every single person in his
corner that he can get. Only one who has defended
a similar case he wants in his corner. He wants
as many heads as possible working on how to make
that outcome not guilty.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, you know this is after one lawyer voluntarily left Ditty's.
Speaker 13 (28:51):
Defense just ahead of his sex trafficking and racketeering trial.
Anthony Rico, one of Combe's high powered defense attorneys, has
suddenly quit the case. Rico filed a brief motion asking
to be relieved of his duties, saying, quote, under no
circumstances can I continue to effectively serve as counsel for
Shawn Combs. Rico gives little context to the statement in
(29:12):
the filing to protect attorney client privilege, but the withdrawal
seems to come with approval from lead attorney Mark Agnifhilo.
Rico promises his recusal will not delay trial or leave
Combs high and dry. With five other attorneys still actively
working on the case, Hunter.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Biden and Michael Jackson's former lawyer, Mark Gerrigos is rumored
to take up the task of defending Ditty in his
upcoming federal sex trafficking trial. Will he be successful?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
In addition to what we believe will be damning freak
off videos, And let me tell you, it's not just
one of them. Judging by what was taken out of
Shawn Combs's mansion, video equipment, videos, videos, videos, baby oil,
you name it. I'm anticipating a lot of videos being
produced at chial by the state, which is telling, but
(30:07):
now more violence rears its ugly head as a damning
claim against did he listen?
Speaker 15 (30:16):
New details from an LAPD police report show neither Sean
or Justin Combs were questioned in relation to a twenty
twenty two shooting that Rodney Jones claimed happen inside Challis
Studios at the father and son's hands. The report claimed
surveillance video captured the victim being shot by Rudolph Flowers
as he got into his car parked a half block
from Challice. The victim then ran back to Challis for
(30:38):
help and was found by officers sitting in a black
folding chair outside. Jones attorney Tyrone Blackburn says the police
report reflects the story Sean Combs instructed everyone to tell,
and points out the report makes no mention.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Of muzzle flashes in the video.
Speaker 15 (30:52):
Blackburn claims he has several witnesses to confirm Jones' version
of events, but has not revealed their identities.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Guys, you saw a commode totally covered in blood. That's
the incident we're talking about. Why was it Sean Combe's
question following this incident and why do we care.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
About this incident?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Because he goes hand in hand to prove that guns
and weapons may have been used as a threat on
the free Cough victims. We are the same thing over
and over and over. Specifically, listen. Record producer Rodney Litl.
Rod Jones claimed Shawn Comb sexually harassed, drugged, and threatened
him in a previous lawsuit, but now Jones says Combs
(31:33):
and his son are involved in the shooting in an
LA recording studio challice, but Combs had the story changed
to where the shooting occurred blocks away from the studio.
Jones claims Comb's son, Justin, and her friend knowingly as
G got into a beef in the bathroom. A shot
is fired and Shawn Combs and his son Justin come
out of the bathroom, leaving G to bleed all over
the floor. Jones claims he takes G to a waiting
ambulance and he's taken to the hospital. Police reports indicate
(31:56):
the shooting took place blocks away from the studio. The
significance of this prior shooting incident cannot be underestimated.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We have scores of.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Photos of the shooting scene afterwards, but for some reason,
Shawn Combs was never questioned and then somehow the story changed.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
To where the shooting occurred.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But we have the pictures of the blood, and it
goes hand in hand with the story that the victim
was propped up on a commode and EMT's recalled.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
How can that have happened at another location where the
photos prove it happened there.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Why would Shawn Colmbs lie about it?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This goes hand in hand with multiple shooting incidents.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Investigators may also be taking a second look into the
nineteen ninety nine Club New York shooting, based on allegations
in Rodney Jones lawsuit that Combs bragged about bribing witnesses
and jurors at trial, sharing that he pulled the trigger
that night, not Jamal Shine Berrow. Barrow served nearly nine
years in prison for opening fire and injuring three during
an altercation with another club goer while out celebrating a
(33:04):
new record deal with Combs and his girlfriend at the time,
Jennifer Lopez. The lawsuit a ledge's Combs shared that Lopez
carried the gun and passed it to him during the altercation.
Victim Natanya Rubin, has also long insisted that Comb shot her,
not Arro Lopez was never charged in the shooting, and
Combs was acquitted of four counts criminal possession of a
weapon and bribery.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
If these allegations are brought in a similar transactions, Jennifer
Lopez may be dragged to this, dragged into this trial.
After all, the significance cannot be underestimated. Let me say
it again, introducing violence like this on these victims, and
(33:46):
of course, in addition to the j Low incident, how
can we complete the conversation without mentioning the late the
Great to Pauk.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Shakur, Dwayne Keethy. D Davis blames credit for Tupac's murder
on bet and in his memoir he says Puffy Combs
wanted Night and Tupac's heads after their disc track hit
them up. When Davis offers to carry out the hits,
Combs agrees to pay him one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Eric Fattis gunshots, gunshot, wounds, shootouts, one victim after the next,
Tupac Shaker is dead. Then you have the shooting at
the studio where we just showed the pictures that corroborate
what the victim said, being propped up of on a.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Commode as he was bleeding out.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
He lived by the way to tell the tale, but
nobody's listening. Now you have more threats by gun Eric.
This is very serious. Forget about the mackerel and the
upgrade at the MDC. I'm very surprised that there is
a fourth superseding indictment on gun and gunshot charges.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Yeahnfi.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
It wouldn't be unusual when you look at the federal
rico charge of selling one thing, it alleges is a
pattern of conduct in which he uses his resources and
affiliates and sometimes violence to manipulate the legal system, to
intimidate witnesses, to tamper with evidence. And so these allegations
regarding these shootings go hand in hand with that that
(35:17):
he is using that style of manipulation and that is
his approach, that's his strategy to try to keep himself
out of trouble, and so it wouldn't be unusual for
the prosecution to try to bring up those things as
either similar transactions or as additional charge defenses.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hid with more
charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the
musician use his power and status in the music industry
to coerce unknowing victims.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
This as we learn that the Shawn Kim's defense team
has to painted and demanding access to raw, unedited interviews
and materials from the investigation discovery documentary The Fall of
Ditty and I think I know why, Listen.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Combs's legal team is demanding access to the raw and
edited interview and materials from the investigation discovery documentary The
Fall of Ditty. The defense is also asking for any
notes or journals sent to the series producers and records
of any payments that may have been made to two
specific interviewees, Combs's former chef, referred to as Individual A
(36:27):
and Individual B, a former girlfriend. The chef spoke out
about how Combs treated her, as well as rumors she
heard about Combs's behavior while his ex girlfriend discussed their relationship,
including an alleged incident of sexual assault. Legal reps for
parent company Warner Brothers are asking the New York judge
to squash the subpoena, citing reporters privilege.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Sidney Sumner investigative reporter, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I think that Shawn Comes's defense team wants all the
outtakes to that particular documentary and probably others similar to it.
They want to see what landed on the cutting room floor.
They want to see if there's anything that was edited
out that they can use to cross examine these potential witnesses.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I think that's what.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
They're after most definitely, Nancy. They're looking for anything exculpatory,
anything that is contrary to what the general narrative is.
They want to make Combs not look like this monster,
but a thoughder figure with a weird sex life.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
All of this is brewing as the state suffers a blow.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Now it may not seem.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Like a blow to you, but it is a blow.
A major claim against Sean Combs's colleague and longtime friend,
Jay Z has been dropped amid a lot, a lot
of controversy.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I want you to hear Jane Doe.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Now, this is a client that Tony Busby who was
going up against jay Z. This was one of his clients,
Busby's clients. Listen to her caught on the phone with
jay Z's private investigator. He was there that he didn't
have anything to do with.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
The any sexual acts towards you. It was strictly yeah,
he was the.
Speaker 14 (38:23):
One that kind of pushed me towards going.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Forward with him with jay Z. Buzzbyda Yeah. You know
why that secretly recorded conversation is from our friends at
ABC Sidney Sumner. That was a major blow because if
it is suggested that Tony Buzzy fabricated a case against
(38:47):
jay Z. You see where I'm going with this. It's
going to be alleged he fabricated cases against Sean Comes.
That's where that is headed. That is why a victory
for jay Z. I mean that old case was dismissed
and jay Z said from the get go that didn't happen. Now,
if Buzzby is somehow discredited, his other claims can be
(39:12):
discredited to claims against Sean Combs, including potential victims and
the criminal case.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
See yes, this could be potentially devastating for all of
the victims that Buzzy claims to represent. And that's exactly
what jay Z is accusing him of is in this
defamation lawsuit, jay Z says Busby made the whole thing up,
he pushed his client to do this. But an important
distinction the victim Jane Doe, who is on that recording
(39:41):
saying those things had now come back and said, you know,
I was terrified when these pis showed up on my doorstep.
I said whatever I thought they wanted me to say,
so that they would leave me alone. Because she filed
this anonymously, her name is Jane Doe. That's all we
know about this victim, and she has done a few
(40:03):
public anonymous interviews, but she does not want her name
out there. So the fact that these two pis showed
up on her doorstep unannounced was purifying for her.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Is it the beginning?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Is it the first domino and a whole series of
dominoes to fall for the state. I don't think so,
but it does present a problem. We wait as justice
and folds. And now we remember an American hero police
officer Eddie Mundo Junior, Lagrange Police Kentucky, killed in the
line of duty a US Marine Corvette, survived by grieving
(40:38):
wife Brandy and son Julian American hero officer Eddie Mundo Junior.
Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.
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