EP 409: Quiet Queers

This week the ladies are going SOLO starting with terrible accents, wondering how to handle people with Tourette’s Syndrome in the bedroom, and asking their significant others what they would do if they were turned into a worm. Weezy then gets into her RUDE neighbors, and what rules should be embedded amongst tenants. After that, the ladies enforce their one universal law that must happen in the bedroom. For the reactionary video of the week, Mandii & Weezy discuss if queer people lead their hetero lives by not unpacking their homophobia while being “culturally straight.” Lastly, the ladies get into the history of romance, and much more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say
Decision Decisions. It sounded like you was talking to Kirsty.
You definitely say to welcome, welcome to the new podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh wait, you want to say together Decisions Decisions. Thanks
for listening to another episode of Decisions Decisions. I have
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
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Speaker 2 (01:30):
All right then alright? Then alright then alright then welcome
to Decisions. This is all what I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Listen, rights, what action was that?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Listen? The thing is as long as you just roll
your rs. It's an accent.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I feel like you wanted to read that at Italian
French it was very much and eat tally.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I am not the best with accents. Okay, we need
to get your global we need to what's crazy. I'm
literally in Atlanta and I'm like, oh, y'all have accents
down here. Oh I don't know what y'all are saying. Bitch,
you do six months outro don't do that. I don't
be on this podcast like we will be adding subtitles.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I ain't go oh yeah, I have it, it might
have it.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I have noticed a little twang, a little twang, but no, y'all.
Welcome to another episode, y'all. I'm Mandy Bee Easy and
I know you're so happy that it's Jess Stats. I
mean yeah, I mean, but we've also had some really
good guests coming on. I mean we've actually like started
decisions decisions out with a lot of our friends. Like

(02:35):
we just was like, hey, oh, pull up a lot
of people. We've worked with a lot of people that
we know personally.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So I'm fucking with it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So sorry Alex. By the way, if y'all are watching
on YouTube, first seven minutes, bleep out our curse words,
get over it.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah yeah you're here.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Buck shit, damn you will hear pussy funck shit bit So,
speaking of which, there was recently a guest that had
Tourette's come into the studio and yea to hit me
and was like, this is something I've never seen. They
never watched this big lowmel jiglove maybe in person. I've
never had movie so such a good movie. She basically said,
the ticks were hold on, let me type in tics

(03:12):
on my phone and tell you what these ticks were.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Sorry again for the bleeps, bitch dick.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Tippy tippy, that wiener tippy tapped, that rote history, my
flabber has been gassed BBC.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's a big black cock. And then she wrote at last, but.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Not least, bitch, asshole and the wait, these were ticks
that just were burst burst it out.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie that. Those are really cool ticks.
She said she was on a podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know the name of it, but the person
that hosts it as Amanda Hirsh tourette syndrome, and they
never gave Tianna heads up, so she says she was
a dust in the camera and the girls like sticking
up a middle finger and fuck you bitch. She said,
I was like, I know she ain't talking to me,
so I'm really curious though, like what that episode sounds
like and had that conversation goes because keep in mind,
with tourettes, these are just blurted out, so it can

(04:04):
be distracting for the person you're trying to speak to.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
If a man is.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Getting it right from behind, I'm trying now to make
it nice and he.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Screams out Brian Go.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't know, like if I could have sex with
someone who is yelling out bitch, ass hole and rotisseri,
Jason Momoa got tourettes, hypothetical.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Letting her, I'm gonna turn the TV up. You right?
You want that chicken pussy? No, no, no, no, I'm not
gonna lie. I'm just gonna have the music playing a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, if Jason Momoa has tourettes and just bursts out,
like burst out any of those weird things, okay, hurt
you know. I don't know if anybody else does this,
but sometimes when we're about to get drunk, I'd be like,
you know, it's like if that was a word, would
you love me? So we'd be doing shit like Okay,
what if I couldn't do this? What if I couldn't

(04:58):
do that? What if I hunch back?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Like we just to He's like, since we already locked in.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, but like if you were a worm, I just
why are you asking a man if he would be
into beat reality? I just want to know about that
reality doing dumb shit. That's what you do when you
love girl. I'm not the funk going on my head
is fuck ump.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
If I was a worm, would you be with me?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Let me tell you something about being in love if
you forgot how you was that kind?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, I'm not gonna lie. I've never asked that.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
If I was a worm, would you still a love man?
I mean I'm exaggerating here, but okay, she was like,
dumb ship? What was What was his reaction if I
didn't ask him that? But I'm thinking like something like
super silly, Like I'll just be looking with the googly
eyes like okay, I didn't maybe right after I came
if I, yeah, I just do a thing.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, So I'll ask.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
About an extra toe or an extra finger, or like
because my mama white, I'd be like, what if I
didn't have lips? What if I was like I sucked
my mouth and his like would you kiss your four
voffles like this?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
But I do that I see that white ship.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's sometimes you look at me and be like, I
can't believe I'm gonna there's.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
A white ship.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I have full lips, thankfully, But when I be at
like looking at my mama, sometimes I'll be like, damn, MoMA,
you ain't got no lips.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
We're in an arrow where you could do it a
little look at it her hand.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now, I'm not giving my mom no filler in the lips.
I'm not giving her a filler. No, I think uh.
I would help my mom though, Like she had the
gastric sleeve. So I'm like, if if insurance doesn't cover,
you're and it's not a mommy makeover. But she's older,
so she has the loose skin. I'm like, girl, we
gonna snip and touch. That's way worse than that is

(06:41):
way worse.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Than a lip. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
At least that's just a filler.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, no, no filler be looking awful in can migrate
up under your nose, cutting extra skin, which is a
health concern.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's not worse than film because you know why I
say that, Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Are you still putting down under it? Right? They put
you down here?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
To me, it's not like I'm not saying like not
to get lips like, but to me, I'd rather help
my mom cut some extra skin off then lip filling.
I think there's a point where you know, when you
see someone you're like, oh, that's too much. Imagine them before.
That's what you gotta know. They built up to that.
What was Kylie like? Just two shots?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yes, she worked once she got to the point where
you and then she lied to y'all and said it's
the lip kit, and y'all bought it. It was sold out.
I'm not gonna lie, I was them o bit. Y'all
love a little lip kit?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
You is it?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Y'all can talk about Kylie all y'all want, with all
the things baby, her little uh Kylie.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Clothing line and the lip kit. I'm here. She has
put out some good quality shit. I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I love a little you know when you put on
a little cool unjail and if you make your shit,
but then you oh no, I'm not gonna hold you
the little lip gloss with the little plumper. Ladies, do
not kiss a man or suck a man with the
plumper on your lip.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
We don't even do hordrds anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But that's my tip to y'all. I done did it
on accident, and it was like there's a little tingly happening.
I said, oh shit, it's my plumper. The plumper transfers,
y'all wait, and it can how fresh, but almost immediately
like when I'm with someone, I just I constantly am
putting on claws.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
And then and then all of the things.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Y'all, wait, but how again, what's the time between the
plumper and oh, it tingles.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
For a while, like I have this one. I don't
think it's tart. I forgot the brand.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'll bring it. That thing be tingling for about fifteen minutes.
Oh my god, this is so random.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But I just have to tell y'all about this last
night and eleven I'm sorry, my add just hit me
last night at eleven thirty at night. Okay, there's a
knock on my door, me and my nigga in a bed.
I thought about it because the girl got big lips
when I see her. So I get a knock on
my door, and I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm
like nervous, like what, And I've left my key in
the door before, so I was like, oh my god,

(08:50):
please don't tell me that's and it is happening in front.
I leave my key in the door too. These two
girls are giggling and we looking through the people this
whole state.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh my god, sorry, we're just gonna leave it. No
know on your door. You don't have to open the door.
I'm going sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's two girls, one white, one Indian girl. He opened
the door and they're like.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Sorry, we just have a letter for you, and yo,
you read it. You don't read it?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh yeah, sorry, They like were giggling. It's almost midnight.
It's a Monday night. I'm fucking living. Oh I was,
let me tell you know.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I was.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I was like when she said we're your neighbors, I'm like,
and what do you want? Like he was trying to
be nice. I was pissed grave read this letter.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
You know. We had to get up early.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Hi, these are your neighbors, Apartment five and apartment six. Basically,
we're all on this one floor and it's a larger floor.
We're considering throwing a party, and we thought it would
be fun if we all open up our apartments.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Weird when they're young, right.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
They're young. It's downtown. Let us know what you think,
or you can just totally ignore.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
This if you want.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Nikka, let me tell you signing when I tell you
almost went and thought on TikTok, oh, I almost knocked
on five and six. They did that on TikTok. They're like,
that's like it's a trend. Wait, it's real time TikTok. No,
there's a TikTok where everyone goes to everyone's different apartments
and in each apartment there's either a theme or drinks,
and you literally are partying through everyone's apartments.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I literally saw that on TikTok. Hey, let me tell
you something. This isn't a fucking wait. He said, I'm
a millennial. I'm not here for it. Nigga, are you
out to here? White mind?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Literally, and I'm going off, and I know he's annoyed too,
but now he's trying to call me. I'm about to
go over there, so I get my phone out because
they left their phone numbers, and he's like, no, no, no,
there's children show. I'm like, yo, do you know how
disrespectful it is to knock on someone's door almost at
midnight on a fucking Monday?

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Like?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You really got me fucked up? Number two? What really
got me? Tight? Bitch?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
You only trying to do this with me so that
I'm not gonna complain about how loud it is. And
ever since that one hole movement Santa con My building
was flooded. What the fuck do you think this is
a goddamn frat house.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Oh yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
People literally will hear Nina at the door when they
walk by and just start barking back, and I'll be
opening a motherfucking door out, bitch, what the fuck is
you doing?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now? I know I live in a downtown Manhattan crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Area literally by bars an mean that I need to
now take on this energy. First of all, I am
a phony. I have a boyfriend. Now, bitch, I'm still
a party girl. But I just really can't believe these
neighbors wanted to do this.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
With me, Like, are you crazy? We're gonna just.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Sound like millennials right now because everyone's asking me about
a house warming, and I said, so that people know
where I live. No, no, no, no, no no, I don't
want anyone coming over my house.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Don't think this is that's crazy to knock on somebody.
But you used to throw parties at your house.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I still do.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
It doesn't mean I want to, but you yeah, but
that's fair.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Do you go to your neighbors and are you considered
it about how loud it will be?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Like you warn the bottle of the line before.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
You know what I mean that.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Giggles do you see that.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, let me just say this. She's like, I do
it the matour way I do for congestion.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Let's start with that.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
If I have a game night in my house and
the music and the sh it, ain't that crazy. I
knock on the door. I'm not asking for permission. I say, hey,
I'm gonna have some friends over on Friday. I just
wanted to bring this by. You know, it's not true.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Is this barefoot? We're gonna be loud, this.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Barefoot little Chateau Diana.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
But I mean no.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I started to think to myself, and I'm like, oh,
it's perfect.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
It'sion decisions.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
What rules do you have as a neighbor? First of all,
she said, you can ignore this. I feel like the
nice thing to do was write them and respectfully decline
and be like, hey, but if you never need anything,
here's my number. I really don't want to do that
at all. I don't know why I have to be neighborly.
I'm a renter. You're gonna be out of here, and
so am I. Oh, I'm not gonna lie like I

(12:34):
remember when I lived in Miami. I lived downtown Miami.
Off this game and I'll never forget. Our neighbor from
below us came up, mind you. He I guess had
a nine to five, but me and my roommate at
the time were bartenders and we went out a lot.
We would get ready, we would wear heels. He came
up and literally said, do I need to buy you
guys slippers? I don't like hearing your heels when I'm

(12:59):
having to get up for work or whatever, and I'm
not gonna lie. My initial response, and yes I was
twenty one at the time, was if you don't want
to hear people above, you buy the pet house or
get a house. To me, when you're in an apartment,
like to me, you should be able to listen to
your music loud. You should be able to wear heels
in your home that you pay for. Like to me,

(13:19):
if you're someone that is really going to be anal
about the noise made by having neighbors get a fucking hack.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Can we put what's the asterisk? At considerable hours?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna say that I would be considered.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Music at five am?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
No or for it? Okay, no, no, I's there's considered that.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I believe hours if you're walking around, but if I'm
walking around.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Bro. No, I understand music, I understand loud.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I think if anyone under me, because of structurally how
the building is, there's something underneath me, which is great, right,
And I'm not even on the bottom floor, but there
are people above me, most recently a guy that likes
to do yoga, an and some kind of workout. But
I say yoga because I just hear it thump sometimes.
Then I hear one foot. It's not like dumbbells. So

(14:10):
I let it go because it doesn't last long.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And I feel like we live in New York. These
departments are small. Yeah, what am I like? Whatever? But
do it one day?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That motherfucker did it late night, and the next day
when I saw him, I say, hey, can sleep last night.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
See to me, noisles noisless one time.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh oh no, he's like doing a full on workout
on there. It's like a mad thing he's doing on
the ground. So I'll make a comment just so you're aware.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That's it. That's all I could do. I think they
did make a comment. It's so you're aware.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, I don't know, and it didn't change anything. Bitch,
I pay I'm wearing heels at my house I also
remember too, like sound noise complaints. Sorry, bro, come on,
like get ear plugs, get it together. Like people are
living how they live. I will say the only thing
that I have understood. I had a no roommate when
I lived in the Bronx who was a smoker. Smoked

(15:03):
all day, every day, and the apartment above us was
Section eight. Well, if Sectionnate comes and smells weed, you
could lose your Section eight. And so because she didn't
want to stop smoking in her home, she moved out.
And so that's where like again, if you don't like something,
or if you don't like the complaints from your neighbors, bro,
move out. But I don't think you should have to

(15:26):
change your whole way of living in your home that
you pay rent for to accommodate neighbors.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
So she's said out because she's like, I'm gonna smoke
in my room. I'm gonna smoke in my house. I
pay rent, I wake up, I roll a blunt, I smoke.
So she moved out and moved to a place that
didn't mind her smoking. And I respected that.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I thought you were saying, move out. I have the neighbor.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh okay, okay, no, she moved out. She said, Hu,
no worries, I am going to smoke in my home and.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
She moved out.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh yeah, I think that's really honorable. Yeah, because if
you tell me, I gotta go beach. I mean, but again,
when you're dealing with Section eight or newborn babies like
my loft. Now, like my neighbor smokes cigars. The people
before me had a baby and literally said, hey.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
We can't. I mean, when you're sharing vents with people
like smoke. I understand. I understand smoke too.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
My partner is a He owns properties and one of
them he recently like saw and basically I guess she hunh.
She opened the door and he's like, yo, I couldn't
even see the floor.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It was just filthy.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Affording kids, he was like, and not just regular, I
have kids, messy And he's like, all of it, you
can it's gonna take over the walls. Yeah yeah, And
I literally was like, how do you know if someone
has bad cleaning habits or even smoking or anything. A
lot of people are investing nowadays. We get in to
that age where we want to get an investment property.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
What do you do.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
We just watched fucking five year oh four and smoking
in and a motherfucker's crib.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's so crazy, that's what. That's what even I saw.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It was either a tweet or or maybe it was
a TikTok, but it was saying that ladies, you shouldn't
even open your legs for a man until you see
how he lives. Oh a to see if he clean
or not, but also be to make sure he don't.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Live with his wife. You should, you should.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You should go and be able to see the inside
of his home, and you should know the color of
his shower curtain. Bro.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
And you know what's crazy, You don't really.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Have a right to own enter a tenant's property. But
also at the same time, you want to make sure
your ship is being upheld. I'm like, so what do
you That's why renting is tough. But that's why a
lot of home like owners or people that get into
investment properties don't want to rent to Section eight because
the possibility of their home being destroyed is higher than

(17:38):
than not, because they genuinely if you're not paying and
Section eight you're paying very minimal, you don't seem to
care about things that you don't pay for m question,
so would but sorry. On the other hand, he does
have a Section eight tenant. It was like, I get
my rent.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Oh, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I I grew up as a Section eight tenant like
my mom and us. We were a section we were
we were on section they growing up and we took
very good care of the house.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
What do you wish that they had done instead?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Slid it under the door? Not a knock in the
middle of the night. I think that's a sliding under
the door. Eleven thirty on a Monday.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I understand the age of the world right now, but
I just think there needs to be some decorum and
these kids, I really feel like they distract these kids.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
We is aging the help. OHI decisions.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
They turned to open my door to are you insant?
Look and ruined.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
She's like, ooh, y'all a guy, Oh you want some
sound proof of tea sound ordinance tea. Y'all.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I opened a gym. I'm gonna tell you all about it.
It's called trap House. If you haven't seen it on
my ig yet, it's in.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
The Lower East Side. We have a neighbor. Oh, it
just came from the Flora ba oh boy.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And my partner was upstairs with them, introducing themselves and
he said, it was pretty loud yesterday.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
What was going on?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And you guys, I're wing a party And she was like, now,
we were doing our workout normally, he would commercial though,
don't you have to like, aren't you aware of who
you're who else is in the building before you joined
the building? Well, that person said, she said, did you
not know where a gym? He said, I knew you
were a pilate studio. Oh, didn't know that you were
gonna be playing rap bitch it is trup And.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So she's like, well, what level of noise would be
comfortable for you? He said, A pin drop girl. She
came downstairs, said, well, we're gonna kicked out. I said, no,
that hell we a. I signed my lease first.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Nobody else was in the building and they were very
aware what this would be. I'm following the decibels of
what's allowed the apartments. On the side, so it's New York, right,
you have some commercial then on the side, I turned
it off at a certain time.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I've sound throof the windows, like sound is going to travel.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Up and if you think I'm not gonna have a
sub with it when I want to hear sexy right
on the reformer you got me.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
But no, So now we just waiting. Girl.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
He's a white gay man, and whereas gay men steal
my heart, I have a feeling one day he's just
gonna be like I've had it. I am terrified. Luckily,
our schedule is like seven, eight, nine thirty. He comes
in around eleven. We do have a twelve class for
the rest is late night five six seven.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm like, all right, maybe you'll hear one. But I
think what makes it worse.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Because when I thought about it, I was like, Okay,
if I knew there was a plate studio as well,
I'd be like, oh you wouldn't You didn't see the
name of trop house.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh I mean he can so dog it. I'm a
little I'm a little scared of business. If you don't
want me asking.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Very designer showroom. Oh oh jo, I know he probably
has elevator music playing.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Right, And I woke.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
My Buddha hole brown about to be all a daddy baby.
Oh wait no.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
The song is a laugh in the hallway and I
felt so bad because it's a big bangs with fin being.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'm like, hey, are you mean?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I was like, oh shit, I mean, it wasn't cursing,
but it's just so loud.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
You're just yelling Fiene.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's soliciting drugs. Yeahllo is it. That's what athene is, bro,
I know that's what a fene is. I thought it
was just like we're feene in for the party.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
You're feeding for for the party. Sure, for the party.
But anyway, it's super fun. Come. I made a code
for hohre Hive.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's ten bucks off and it's half pilates inspired moves
and half lifting and it's been.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Really really dope. David Edden got to come through and
you did. Now you got to come You didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You didn't do so I felt like I was doing it.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I've never done plates though with machines. I do pilates
with my body, so I don't know about it.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I don't. Yeah, the machines be scared me. That's what
I seeing the athletes show. A lot of people are scared.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
We do like we started an intro class because I
really a lot of girls coming in like I'm kind
of nervous or I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Scared and you don't want to be the worst thing.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
For me is when I go to a hard workout
and everybody's better than me or making me feel like
I'm not keeping up.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
So I understand that too.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Like pilates, bar yoga, like I realize my uh my intimidation.
I'm intimidated by machines. So I've really enjoyed working out
with just moving that my must interesting.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, I don't like. I don't like machines.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think even when I go into gym's, like I
had a gym in my last building and I was
just like learning really the usage of them. I prefer
like using just my body weight. So like seeing my
love over the years grow for for bar class and
yoga and hot yoga and pilates, it's always been just
a mat and with pilates too, so I can't call
it pilates and I can't call it Lagree, but it

(22:47):
is the closest to Lagree. The fitness director is Lagree certified,
but there is like a monopoly on using the name.
So the machines are literally that, but I can't say
it because other studios own that, so I've had to
say plates inspired. But basically I just went from what
changed my body the most, and everybody know, y'all have

(23:08):
come with me to work outs and shit over the years.
Like there's a bunch that I love, and I'm like,
this is what changed me the most, lifting weights and
the reformer. So the regular plates machine is kind of
like this one is heavier so you feel it more.
But it's really because I want niggas on it. Like
my goal was to have like a workout that men
could do. I even made one spot in the gym

(23:29):
called the boyfriend bench, and it's a bench that is
only listing and you don't have to do the machine, okay,
because I knew it was gonna be niggas up in there,
and it's a dude in there every time.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Also, girls bringing their boyfriends.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Girls, you got to hold own it, damn baby, bring
us on fineess, Niggas's not.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You looking at the girl's boyfriend. Sorry, Oh no, you
are the owner. Can you be respectful to your relationships?

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Damn?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Speaking of which, I have realized that the culture of
WTF media and owning this business is drastically different.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
From starting a new one.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
And you know, everybody has a language. Mandy and I
talk a certain way in the group chat with you.
I talk a certain way in the group chat with
Jeff and Alex and Clara whoever.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
This new business, I have to really wastch my mouth.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Literally, someone came in and I was like, damn, her
ass looks so good, and they all looked at me
like yeah, no one else, but you can't talk like that.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I was like, hr guard, Oh yeah, Guard, it's already
a sexual energy.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's sweaty in there, and it's like beautiful people, so
just you know, it's crazy. I have the opposite thought,
like going to the gym is never sexual energy, Like
I don't know, I guess I guess that goes to
like the no, you're a horny but I get it.
But I don't think this gym is not does not
bring about sexual energy.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
What really the sweat the heat that surprised.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I understand a group fitness class because mainly being around
a bunch of girls doing like so we're also by
so no, like I'm in yoga and asses in the air,
I eat pussy lick as you would think it.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't go to like when I'm in the gym,
you don't feel sexy either. I'm bitch, I'm hurting I'm stretching,
I'm hurting seriously.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, I don't, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I go with my little cut up. That's why I got.
I go to sweat, but I don't go to look good.
I go to like my body. I go to feel good.
I don't go to like look good. I don't do
my makeup.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'll put on a baseball No, no, no, no, I'm not
talking about girls that go to look good. I've never
put on makeup for the gym. I'm talking about going
to field. I go to feel good, but I'm not
going to feel good in my pussy. I'm going to
feel good everywhere else.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I ain't gonnallow to you.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I do feel like a especially with lower body workouts,
like it literally brings it builds testosterone for men. You
just start doing squats and ship like it's it definitely
gets the blood flowing.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I felt sexy. Will you when you squat? Does you
get hard at it?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Not hard?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
You said it builds the bud and blood like there's
blood flowing, right, So is it flowing like when you
squat or even day when you do anything lower body?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Is your is your dick getting hard?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Maybe like a half chob like not a half chobe. Okay,
can we get to hypotheticals. Half chobe is crap job, it's.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Crazy, like you just asked me my dick hard.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Sorry, clearly, don't feel like I can't say anything, but
I'll be getting horny and I'm gonna lie to you
on the machine. Like there's this one move like it's
almost like a cat cow. It's in tabletop position when you're.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Doing it, do like cat coo oh.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I really was like I'd be feeling in my lower
I love a cat I'll be tooting it up. Or
if I do rows where one arm is on the
bench and I'm just rowing the other, I'm finna toot glass.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Do you stir yourself in the mirror? Duh?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Hello? Have you like?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm sorry ego to start anyway? Hypothetical Okay, if you
could make one universal law in the realm of sex,
what would it be?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Can you start with this? Okay?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So for me, the law I would make is like,
if you fake an orgasm, you got a jail for
six months. And the reason I say that is because
the faking of the orgasm, which I have done before,
has promoted so much lack of interest in what someone
wants because you're already getting the instant gratification. So we're

(27:23):
not learning what we're doing wrong. And even if it's
not that you're doing anything wrong, I think it's you know,
not learning it to please someone else.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So now we just is it good?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, instead of saying how can I get you off?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
What do you like? Do you like harder? More pressure?
Like we just don't ask? I agree, I agree.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I mean a universal law for me would be it
doesn't count if you don't come, And I think it
would limit the conversation.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
What do you mean it doesn't count if I didn't come.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I've only fucked five niggas, it didn't count if I
didn't come. That would be the law I would create,
because there's there's no way in hell, like even if
I had to sign a little waiver like yes, I came,
so then you could you could acknowledge me as a body,
You could tell people we had sex.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
However, if I did not come, it didn't happen. Did
you really blow my back out?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't recall it didn't happen. That would be my
universal law. So then has it been the same for you? No,
It's like have you fucked anybody?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Let's say you.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Fucked fifty women, and if you didn't make any of
them come, you don't vote to you're a virgin.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to this fucking No I would.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I mean I think that that's because there's guys that
be acting like they did a whole lot of something
and it was a whole lot of nothing. And now
I want my pussy muscles back and guess what, I'm
going to take them back because you didn't even make
them contract. Hello, now I feel like a rapper. What
would your law be for sex? Do you have a

(28:52):
sex law that you would if your DL you gotta,
that would be your sex laws? Do you have to
give ahead before penetration?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, it doesn't happen to be before, but like head
has to happen, one head has to.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Happen on one of the other.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yes, I like that.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I'm not mad at that. I think that's actually a
really good lie.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. You're kind of childish.
If there's no oral are you, you're childish? If if
you are having sex as a grown as adult, I'm
gonna say eight nineteen and no, cause by eighteen you
may still be there. I don't think anyone who is
mature is having any sex without having or so. My

(29:32):
drug dealer is like, well, he's a new one, but
he's like a superhod nigga, and to be honest with you,
the type of drugs that like ain't super hood, so
something about it.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's just kind of fun when he comes through. So
we talking or whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
He's like, yo, I found out a horrible decisions. I
didn't even know I've been serving him, like I ain't
know who he was.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Were talking. He was like, you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
A lot of girls be trying to cut me off
because I don't really kiss or eat pussy unless I'm
super in love.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
And I literally was like, then what do you do?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Put his dick in you finger then and spit Yeah,
I was, so I'm like I can almost see I
can understand the kissing and like like.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Titty, like what I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I use anyway, I'm never buying mushrooms from him again.
I mean I used to have sex and not kiss
I get kissing being an intimate. It's so crazy because
I think, you know, kissing is more.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Intimate or kissing the head.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, No, kissing is way more intimate than giving head.
I agree, it is, like I said, like, I agree
with you. I think oral is a part of sex.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Or oral should be a part of sex.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
It should be one or the other. Is giving head.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, someone has to give a head, even if we're
not sixty nine yet out someone has to give head.
Like one of my homegirls just opened up her relationship
and she was asking me about my rules and how
they are the boundaries and what we're both allowed to do.
And one of the things she said to me was
do you letting me other pussy always? Because men will

(30:53):
say they don't want you to suck other dick, right,
So she was like you do you let them get
other pussy? And I was like, well, it's not a
rule that he can't. I was like, isn't a head
part of sex? I was like, am my, Nigga's not
busting down bitches every week, Like this is not something
like our sex life is not.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
It's not a frequent, no monogamy thing. We don't. He
doesn't have many other partners, right. I was like, I
didn't even.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Think to police that, and she was like, that's insane
to me because that's so intimate. I'm like, bro, my
boyfriend is allowed to have sex with other women. We
have sex with other women together. Now you're telling me
that's so intimate.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh, I'm not gonna lie. There was an argument with
my ex.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I didn't mind him having sex with other women, But
you went to a bar with a bitch, like I
thought it was intimate. So you spend outside time out
of the bedroom with a woman like.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
For what, why do you have to talk to her?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Aren't you just supposed to be having sex now, So like,
to me, intimacy is giving someone your time. On the
on the other front, what's interesting is I agree. So
whereas it didn't bother me before, at this juncture of
my life, I don't really want that, Like I don't want.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
A woman feeling like you.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Are, oh like hurt your time as oh like a
birthday or something like that, like, yeah, did a bad
day at work And I think that's too deep. So
basically he was like, yo, I'm not like going out
meeting bitches that are like birds, like these girls are
decent people. I can't just be like, let me pull up.
You have a decent woman like to just get fucked
and left too, So he wrote, what about our thing

(32:26):
was if I ever meet a new person that I
sleep with, can I at least go to a bar
with them for the first time. I don't want to
just go to women's home or they come to mind
like I need something there.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I was like, fine, the first time is it?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And I my home always were laughing about it because
they were like, what if you're gonna kill the first night?
I'm like, that's his problem that nigga got a motherfucking
ninety out of one hundred a record. Fuck it, like,
you better work that night. But to be fair, uh,
something that is very important to me. And again in
decisions decisions, we're talking about non monogamy. So I love

(32:58):
and appreciate that any one he could meet while out
knows he has a girlfriend. I think that's something that
is part of the ethical nominogamy. You don't get the
number and then say, oh, I have a girlfriend, right,
you see it generally speaking, if that's happening, you're probably
knowing this is for sex. So I think that's where
it's kind of worked out.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
We haven't had this conversation a while. He ain't missed
a new bitches in a minute. But when we did
have the convo, that was something I pressed on in
the beginning, like, are you sure you're saying it?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Like, please make sure because I never want to be
in a position where you're a liar to someone else.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. I think that's my problem now.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I know.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I am.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Engaging in a lot of heavy conversation and potential relationship
planning with the three guys that I'm talking to, and
all of them are monogamous, and I'm like just hoping
through conversation I could change their mind. But about monogamous
having sex together? Are they okay with that?

Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's my problem. I like all three of them, so
I don't want to day. Did you guys play? Yeah,
you can't see that.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I never wanted more than one maybe in a Jersey
Oh game night, super Bowl, none of none of them,
none of them live in the same city. So I think,
you know, if it's you know, you know, long long
distance relationship type ship, like we can find ways to
enjoy each other long distance man.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I saw this clip, and while it's a lot to
think about, I just found the opinion to be so
interesting and I thought it'd be good to share on
Horrible because we're both kind of gay.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yes, So what's your take?

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I take us up.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
A lot of queer people lead hetereral lives.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
A lot of queer people lead hetero lives.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Not unpacking their homophones, secret homos if you will, can
I say secret homos?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (34:52):
No, quiet queers, These quiet queers living straight lives exactly
wearing khaki pants and talk it didn't blue T shirts
saying I'm gay but you're not well.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Also because they refuse to distigmatize, declonize their brain. It's
like people can be fair and identity but still remain
culturally straight. What is culturally straight refusing to dig any
deeper because that like ownership of the label queer, it's
assumed that it like absolves you from kind of just
doing any further work. And there's this constant process of

(35:27):
re education that's necessary to kind of due.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Diligence, like once you realize you are queer.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Well, I'm looking at gentrifier bisexuals, specifically gentrifier bisexuals.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
What are those.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Gentrifiers who are bisexuals not digging deeper into their internalized
homophobia gentrifier.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Bisexuals are homophobic? Yes, this is fascinating.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Well why do gay people always come
for the buys death number one? They do give it
a break, bitch, They don't allow us to be a
part of the community like that.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Now, where I will give this.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Person some credit, I will say, watching her talk, I
don't know if she's non binary.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I feel like the way that she's using language, it
could be it's giving non binary. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
However, where I will give them credit is something specifically
about culturally straight. Of first, I didn't understand it, and
I was like, Oh, you could come out of the
closet and still be a fucking bigot. You could be
a racist, you could be pro is you know what
I mean, Like, there could be a lot of things
about you. Just because you're queer or gay don't necessarily
mean you're for the people. Well, when I heard this,

(36:30):
I immediately, especially now being in the South and just
seeing too that all my friends go to church on
Sunday and like it being more heavily religious, being in
the Bible Belt, that this is a privileged way of thinking.
Because she's probably a New Yorker. I think the way
that people can exist or be open as non binary

(36:52):
or how they dress, or how they kind of can
live as their individualistic selves.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
New York allows that.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
I think the South and other parts of the country,
you can sexuality is still something that is kept behind
closed doors. And so I don't think that just because
you're you're a man who sucks stick or a woman
who eats pussy, that you.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Have to be this openly outward gay.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Existing being for society, HI think, And I think that
that's why she was saying culturally straight. I don't think
people need to be like us that wear their labels
on their shirt. I think you can go to work
and everyone doesn't need to know you're gay just because
you're gay. So and I think that that's why there's
a lot of privilege sometimes in people that live out loud,
where they push you a little bit right. I had

(37:36):
to check myself recently in a conversation about just radical blackness,
like me telling someone it's gonna be x y Z
like this fuck white shit and being light skin and
being loud is a privilege, you know what I'm saying.
I'm operating in a world where I can talk like that.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm a woman I'm young, whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Not every black person has this experience, right, And so yes,
it's a privilege to be able to be loud in that.
I use that as an example because this person is
out and well received by whoever or has our community,
and not everybody's like that. So I think sometimes demonizing
someone for not being gay enough sucks. But the only
thing I did kind of ride with is like watching

(38:22):
gays for Trump become a thing. When I made that
joke on the Breakfast Club about I didn't even connect
the dots, but it was like, oh, yeah, Trump funcks
with the gays. Can't be trans because we're watching the
gays celebrate Trump, love him down. And then Megan Kelly
and all these other people get up there and put
all this fear in your heart about trans people, and

(38:44):
it's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Then, So it's just the gaze, not the GE's not
the q's not the t's. Everybody else is confusing me.
Not that non binaries.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I don't like that, but this is all an umbrella
for us in being fluid in your sexuality. Most trans people,
I understand its gender not sexuality, but for most trans
people it is.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
And so it is a disappointment to then think that.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Like you could be gay and also not necessarily be
for any other civil rights. I mean, I will say,
bringing it back to relationships, if I think of culturally straight,
within the LGBTQ community as well, there's oftentimes the well,
who's the man, who's the woman, who's the feminine, who's
the masculine, And so if we talk about maybe how

(39:28):
homosexual relationships adapt or try to incorporate very heterosexual means
of how to operate in relationships, I do agree that
that does take unlearning, and it does take a little
bit of homophobia. The idea that we have to have
these heterosexual ideas even within a homosexual relationship, I do

(39:50):
agree to a bit. But like I said, I think
that there's a privilege in someone speaking that way depending
on your community where you're at, And I think if
you're someone in New York, you don't understand your privilege
as a queer individual and how you're able to just
exist here having places like the village and having you know,
whole communities where there's rainbow flows they want to take

(40:11):
you in, not the same if you go to some
of these sundown towns or like I said, even in
the South or going to Florida where you can't even
say gay.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Did you watch the Jerry Springer doc on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yet it's not that unfortunately as background noise, but yes
it was on, so it's not that good. But there
was something very interesting. They talked about where people were from.
And I thought they were gonna expose Jerry Springership for
being fake, right, And they're like, yo, we one girl
got fired for something being fake, right, and she goes,
I should have known it wasn't real because he was

(40:42):
from Boston and none of this shit is happening in Boston.
And they circled on a map the middle of America
where eighty percent of the Jerry Springer guests were from
Middle America, right, And so there's something about when you're
not in the and even a Florida is a crazy
fucking town, but these are still larger cities where you
get to be interacting with other people.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
So I think we do forget that a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
And you hate her, but those people we need to
have grace for in accepting themselves their sexuality. And oh no,
I just think a lot of them are more ignorant
than most, but it's because they haven't been exposed to more.
I think they just live in their ignorance. So I
don't know if I've talked about this on Horrible, but
I feel like I have. Maybe it's been a while,
but I was dating a man whose brother was gay
and he blamed me for exposing that.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I ever tell you about that, Yeah, I think you
should there.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
So basically, the gist of it was, he had a
brother come from a South American country, its Venezuela, and
when he got here, he goes, Gila, baby, we need
to put him on the dating apps. I'm like, yeah,
I met his brother for five minutes and I'm like,
I know a dating app, feel like, And I introduced
his brother to Grinder. His brother ended up getting engaged

(41:47):
to a wonderful man. They are still married to this day,
by the way. And I want to say this was
when I was twenty two.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
This happened. I say this to.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Say, I remember when his brother came out and said
I have a boyfriend, and he was like that you
made him gay. But this was your same partner that
left you for Jesus, right, Yes, but That's what I'm saying.
So the homophobia within the church.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Oh no, No, No, not him. I wanted to just say.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
His brother was in his twenties at the time, never
had heard of grinder is leaving Venezuela, and it's like,
you don't really, you're not. You need somebody like me
being that doc connector to that world. How else was
he going to get that he's living with his brother,
he doesn't have friends, he's not going out.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Maybe you're closeted. Maybe, And I don't know if he
was closeted or not. I just don't know he was.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
He probably had internal homophobia like my friend's growing up,
which is why I don't like my Latina friends saying
the N word. I was friend my best friends growing up.
One was Colombian, one was Mexican, and never forget, both
of their parents blamed me as to why their daughters
like black men.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Not that we went to majority black schools.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
No, it's because they were friends with me, and so
knowing that they were, Yeah, and so the fact that
your parents are blaming me as to why you like
black men is crazy. But I knew that that was
their internalized racism towards black people. Your partner, maybe not
ever expressing it, was internally homophobic, and I think.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
No, no, no, he was no.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, So that to highlight the thing about like how
the Midwest doesn't really have community. I was because they
that guy like your brother just came to a new
country where we can be open, where we can be open.
Oh the same my cousin left Jamaica because he was
gay and there was not safety for him at Jamaica.

(43:33):
Just a didn't think about or even Dave dn't think
about the way you go on a date and you
kiss someone in a restaurant Palm Street.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Gay men fucking look over their shoulders. But are you
are you ready?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
It's the same thing we're dealing with now, which is
why parents and everyone they're blaming television, they're blaming drag queens,
they're blaming everything. But the scientific fact that as people, psychologically, environmentally,
we have these attractions to people, not because gayiteness was
thrown into our face, but because of who we naturally are.

(44:04):
You just said the drag queens. And so this weekend,
I just made dinner for my man's family. I've never
made dinner for parents before, and he was like, make
them gumbo, and I'm like, that must be the blackest shit.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I make That's why he said it. Yeah, it don't
nobody want Avocadoso's girl cooking out. My daughter saw the
type of city.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
But basically we're sitting down at the table and his
dad loves politics and thank god, same vibe on politics. Right,
I'm talking about how Trump is terrible and whatever and
how the campaign was run for fear. And I started
to say something, and I know my man was gonna
be like, bitch, you gotta shut to Liberata. Well, I said,
you know what's crazier about Trump is the trans ads.

(44:46):
I was like, how many times because they watched TV,
they're watching the rights did you see like the guy
with the football jersey.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
In the dress?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Like, is so crazy to me that one percent of
the population made a lot of people. They say trans
people are one point three right now, and it we're
blessed to know about.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
You know what I mean wearing the right jig fires,
which yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Like, how crazy is it that all these people are
voting read just because they're scared of this? Meanwhile, they
aren't scared of the guns in their kids' schools, but
the advertisement saying be very scared of a man going
in your kids bathroom, be scared of the fucking ak's. Yeah,
and so I'm starting to go in. I know you're
looking at me like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That's why, Like I like, really it's funny because I
just had the same conversation with Active's dad. So he
went to Europe and was with his family for the
holidays and was really excited for me to meet his
parents being FaceTime, and we literally got into the discussion
about freedom of speech, and he was telling me about
like all these little black either Pseudanese or or or

(45:45):
something about the we we correlated what's happening overseas with
all these little black girls that started dying but the
government not wanting to look into it because of racism.
And I literally compared it to what happened with the
new bill in California, where there was evidence that they
weren't going to look for black girls that were.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Oh okay, okay okay.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
And so like having this real like liberal conversation about
also the way in which politics are in Europe compared
to what they are here and that we aligned. It
was like he was like, I don't know if you
have time for this, And I was like oh no,
of course, and we had a whole conversation about politics.
I'm like, that's her way, I realized, Like and it's
funny because his dad was saying, like, you know how

(46:25):
you make a man's parents fall in love with you?
You You asked him if they need help in the kitchen,
You care, You do these things that like millennials people
just don't care about.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
And I was like, oh no, it's really I know.
Then he has politics. Then he switches the phone to
his mom and is like, oh my god, you have
her dream apartment. Give her a tour.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And so I'm touring my new loft and showing it
to her, and she's telling me her dream was to
live in New York in this thing. And It's like, not,
you haven't me born with your parents right now?

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Like, well, well, we.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Haven't even we don't know what this relationship is. This
is thing how our people should do FaceTime meet up
to parents. Yeah, is great, because it's not it was great,
too much pressure.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
No, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Like I didn't been facetiming him for hours and his
sister is a part of the conversation. So I haven't
met the sister, the mom, the dad, I think that's
very special.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And we haven't even had sex yet. Well crazy, speaking
of sex, what comes after romance before we're romantically involved
at the moment. So no, you're absolutely are.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
We're going to talk a little bit before we get
out of here about the history of romance. So and
we gonna stop treating this segment like home mail. We
got to get here sooner, bitch, we're supposed to be educating.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
He said he was cooking, bitch. Okay, so yeah, come
step one.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Apes evolved the ability to become Here we go, We'm
ely attached to it. We're doing evolution this, we said
the history hope, oh lod attachment would eventually be known
as love. It literally started from apes growing the ability
to love, and through evolution kind of just turned into
humans evolving. So the ability to become attached to someone

(48:08):
is then loving each other because it helps you survive.
I'm curious how they did the science on this, only
because what we see throughout the entire animal kingdom is
the bond of connection from ducks to lions to all
the things with their offspring, right, So I'm curious to

(48:29):
know how they identified their romantic love.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
The attachment is how they're describing it.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Right, So they're saying they normally only notice that attachment
right when there's offspring, so I don't know. They're saying
being around each other spending time, Okay, that then becomes
a bond.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
So the third thing, third step. As humans, we instinctively.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Develop loyalty and affection for those who show us most
loyalty and affection. And that's all love really is. It
is an irrational degree of loyalty and in fact into
another person. You agree with that to the point that
we'd let ourselves harm or even die for that person
seems insane, but it's symbiotic with what happens with humans.

(49:11):
Conversations with humans that say I would do anything for you,
well that's just a figure of speech. Yeah, but I
think I wouldn't die, but yeah, I would definitely do.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
You would take a charge for someone you love, like
when I hear people look at it space no, oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
And also, for example, let's make it small. Okay, what's small?
Would you put a car in someone's name? Would you
put you're different? You put your name on something that
you know could cause you debt or go into something
bad because you love.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Some rich like that's literally sharing things like oh I
got to that point a lot. That's marriage. To me,
I've put no before marriage in words, you love someone
before that.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Two apartments baby and five at the same time to
a mount my mama, and two brings a man that
you were dating. We're not talking because you can love
someone before marriage. Marriage is a whole nother that's my point.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
But friends that I point you, you would co sign
something for a partner.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm not a serious partner, yeah, okay, And I only
say that because I've done it for a friend.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
God, so crazy, so fortunate that me and is nigga
a hunt.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
It's so crazy because what I would do for friends
is normally I mean, and I've talked about my my
hierarchy of how I show up for people.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
It's friends family then than men.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
And the way I show it for friends is still
quite different than what I right now think logically I
could do and show it for a partner.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I mean, but it's only because latonic love comes in.
And so here's the platonic love is.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
The ancient Greek philosopher Plato argued that the highest form
of love is actually non sexual yep. It is a
non romantic or an attachment form to another person known
as brotherly love, and reason that since passion and romance
often make us do things we regret, the passionless love
between two family members are close friend friends is a

(51:01):
height of virtuous human experience. In fact, Plato, like most
people in the ancient world, looked at romantic love with skepticism,
if not horror, because with most things non sexual love,
platonic love never meant that you took risk, and for
most of human history, romantic love was looked at as
a sickness bitch, I am, Plato, Yeah you are, I'm.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
About to read De Nikogat books and stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Oh well, look at the word question, I said, poor
decision making from romantic love. The ancients were so skeptical
of romantic love's utility, what is it useful for? So
much so that many cultures treated it as an unfortunate
disease that we'd have to get over in our lives.
In fact, classic stories like uh Romeo and Juliet there

(51:46):
weren't celebrations of love.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
There were warnings against negatives. It was bad love.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
For most of human history, people didn't marry because of
their feelings one of each other. And it didn't stop
with the Disney channel. This bitch gave up her voice
for a niggah like, what else happened? What else happened
in the Disney The voice was bro giving up your
whole singlevoid. So for most of human history, for the majority,
their sustenance and survival hung on by a thread. People

(52:13):
didn't have very much of a large life expectance. Everything
was done from survival. Marriage is arranged by families, families
because for money, of money, wheat Barley helped during a flood,
purely economic arrangements designed to promote survival and prosperity between
the families. And so it's interesting about today's age. People

(52:35):
are lasting longer in age because of love.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
No, that's not true. Maybe love with friendships again, brotherly
love and community. I always talk about the.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Type in one hundred on Netflix, the Centurion documentary People
Living to one hundred.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Oh yeah, there's the women say that they all they
had gotten old, no matter where they didn't. They weren't
in relationships. No, no, no, they last longer because of community.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Oh community, yes, yes, yes, some of them I have
husbands or what or they died or what I saw it,
but like the community was the consistency and the walking
everybody else some most some people gardened, a lot of
people gardened.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
But the thing about community, I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
And what's sad is you know when people fall in love,
what do they tend to do give up on their community.
It's so crazy too, because that conversation is constantly had
to when when people question why I don't want children.
And it's funny because one of the number one things
that if it's not legacy, it's well, who's going to
take care of you when you're old? And I'm like,

(53:33):
I said, it's so crazy because when you do look
at a lot of people and I'm not talking about you,
because clearly you're looking after your your older parents, but
there's a lot of people that end up in nursing
homes whose kids don't even come and see them, or
they're in nursing homes.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Because their kids were too busy to look after them.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
And it's and what's also crazy is there is a
stat that men in nursing homes are more lonely than
women because they don't have the friendships that women curate
over their lifetimes. Women have a lot more friends. And
I know we talk about like the girls that don't
know how to have homegirls. There's way more community amongst women,

(54:13):
and I think we've been able to see that even
with the whore Hive than men have in terms of
how they create bonds and friendships platonics.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
It's so crazy. Think about nursing homes.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I remember, and literally you know, when someone does end
up there, it's mainly if you have family to rely on,
because they can't they hell and help.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
So I was seeing my grandma once and my mom
was probably going three times a week and like making
meals and stuff because you know, nursing home food sucks.
And I was flying down to Orlando just to you know,
keep in touch. There was a woman I saw on
the other side. There was an Asian lady next to her,
and I was like, oh my god, you must be
her daughter.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I've never met you. No no, noa. And so she's
smiling this is true story, doesn't reply to me. I'm leaving.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
She's like, I'm not her family, but we are part
of an outreach thing for people that don't get visitors.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Oh wow. And she was also Chinese, not just Asian.
China did the lady was Chinese, and she was Chinese.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
She's like, yeah, you know, I'll just speak in Mandarin
and we'll talk and we'll or Sorry, the woman didn't talk.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
But she was like, it's just memories.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Conversation can keep people alive long. You can just whole
ladies literally, And so she said she gets paid to
do this. Sometimes I'll just come if people can't get
to their family, if they don't live in the same
country city. She's like, there's some people that visited four
times a week. But she said this was pro bono.
She does it as volunteer work, and the nursing home
will say, hey, these people need someone to connect with,

(55:34):
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Oh wow, right, that's dope but also fucked up. That's dope.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I'm not gonna lie you about to have me go
Google playto like I feel like this was a documentary,
Like Robbie, like, ooh, let me.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Go look more into this. Be give me a plato
on the same type of time.

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