April 7, 2025 • 51 mins
It's Brooke's bachelorette party, and the comedy in this episode is unmatched! Dave Navarro guest stars, delivering unforgettable lines that take everyone by surprise. Meanwhile, Sharon Lawrence pulls off a wild stunt that left a Drama Queen doing a spit take while rewatching the scene.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all about that high school drama, Girl drama girl,
all about them.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
High school queens forever.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl
shared for the right teams Drama Queens, Jaylie's my girl,
up girl.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Fashion, but your tough girl.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Queens Drama,
Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
You know how sometimes you don't even know what you
need until you get it, and you're like, how was
I getting by without this? And this is what this
episode felt like to me. Oh, this episode was so
much fun. I mean, listen, we got a lot to
get into, so let me just break it down. It's
season eight, episode twelve, The Drinks We Drank Last Night.
(00:47):
It aired January twenty fifth, twenty eleven. Synopsis reads, After
a wild night out on the town for a bachelorreat party,
Brook and the girls try to piece together the night
before while looking for Brooks missing engagement ring, and dealing
with the aftermath. The day of Brook and Julian's rehearsal,
the girls at the bachelor at party take something from
Nathan's professor prompting Nathan to confront him. Also, a dog
(01:10):
rides a skateboard directed by They Wanted Only Chad Graves,
written by Shana Fuel.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Shana who moved on to Outlander, which we lost.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So good.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Okay, guys, this was so fun to watch because obviously
I was so pregnant that I was hardly in the episode.
I mean, I remember showing up for a couple of
the like the search party moments that we did, and
then I remember coming to the beach house and looking
at the complete disarray that Hayley shows up in, and
that was fun. But all of the partying stuff, all
(01:48):
of the feather boa, like the bull riding, all of
it I missed. I wasn't there, and it was so
fun to watch. You guys did great.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was such a blast. We had such a good
time on this episode. And you know, when you're on
your twelfth episode of the season, you're essentially halfway through.
People are usually a little tired, and you know, the
sleeplessness for six months is getting to you. And this episode,
I mean, it was like a shot of adrenaline for us.
(02:18):
It was so fun and so silly, and you know,
whether it was dancing on the table at the frat house,
or stealing the ice cream truck. I still don't know
where that came from. It's just it was sort of
like Shana took the idea of the Hangover and ran
with it for the girls, and I loved it.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Had the Hangover come out yet? I think it must have?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I think so, wasn't that two thousand and six?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Oh my gosh, did you actually just whip out the
correct release here of the Hangover?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It was a total gut assumption. I will be amazed
if I'm correct about that.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
That's incredible. You're right two nine.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
An upside down six. That's why my brain I'm just
like it works all right.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So yeah, we had little inspiration perhaps from the Hangover.
One thing I just sort of a general note about
the whole episode that I so appreciated was no one
was trying to look good. I say, it's about your
comedy A lot joy that I see you go for it.
(03:26):
You know, there's no vanity in comedy, at least there's
no vanity in good comedy. And everyone really leaned into
it and was not concerned with my angle? Do I
look okay? Is it was just everyone swung for the fences,
and as a result, it is just so funny to
see the physical comedy in this one was great.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, you nailed that. That's absolutely right. I didn't think
about that until you just said it. But it's one
of the main reasons why it works so well is
that to have a room full of women and no vanity,
that's exciting. That's really exciting to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well. And then the sort of BTS comedy that you
don't see on screen is that instead of coming in
you know, every third take, because we're in the South
and everyone's sweating to give us touch ups, our hair
and makeup team is actually coming in to make sure
we look worse to you know, make sure this smeared
lipstick is there, to make sure you know your hair's lopsided.
(04:26):
And it was really fun to get to do that
because there was I mean, listen, the CW gets made
fun of for it all the time, that everybody has
to look good always, even if they're running from vampires
or like, you know, underwater, and it's nice to be
able to really lean into being a hot mess. Oh.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I don't think we ever would have done that the
first few seasons. No way, we wouldn't. I don't think
we would have been allowed to. They would have seen
one day of dailies and been like reshoots.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, but speaking of the CW. Laughed out loud and
have in my notes that that day spa is wall
to wall hot masseurs, and I was like, this is
the most c W. That's my note is this is
the most c W day spa of all time.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yes, only Alex could have arranged that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
There wasn't a dude over twenty eight, everyone had less
than ten percent body fat, everyone had a good tan.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It was hilarious to me.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, it was like a calendar like audition for just
like hot shirtless dudes.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It probably was.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It was so fun to have actual Alex, our friend
from town, play one of the hot messewers who's telling Haley, oh,
the drinks are perfectly safe and thank god you don't
have any because you're pregnant.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah. I forgot about Alex. I knew that guy looked
so familiar, and I was like, I remember shooting this
scene with him, Why is he is he just familiar
because I remember that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Moment that's my friend. Ah, so fun, so so funny.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I was kind of a little judge of Haley at
first not drinking this movie. I was like, what's wrong
with her? She just drank the smoothie. I forgot it's
the whole device.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But the smoothies themselves were okay. It was just when
you combined them with alcohol. Yes, Oh it was like
a baking soda vinegar situation.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, they were some sort of wellness tonic.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
What the hell kind of smoothie can't be mixed with alcohol,
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
The unraveling of that with Alex is so good because
she everyone looks at her like, what the hell was
in those drinks? And she goes, I don't know. People
get someone goes, what was in those energy drinks? And
she goes, I don't know energy energy. You know. When
in the room is satisfied with that answer, and she's like,
I I'll go find out.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
She had some great one liners, great moments in this episode.
I feel like everybody really had their own, had their
own unique moment, like Lisa getting the tattoo was so great,
and her spinning around in circles trying to see her
like a puppy and yeah, was great. And again, you know,
(07:02):
she's so consistent with Alex Duprey's inconsistency that it's really
endearing that you never know what you're going to get
she Is she pulling a trick, is she being manipulative?
Is she being really sincere? I don't know at this point.
I don't never know what to expect from her. But
I really liked her vibe in this episode.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And that nice moment towards the end where it just
sort of showed that she's she's not dumb and she's
not totally unaware. When she's like, I know I got
invited and that's okay, I just want to be around
some friends, it was like, Oh, like you said, it's
like she's consistently inconsistent, because that was a moment where
I went, now that that's a person I can root for.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, she needs real friends, so she knows it at
the root of it. That's why she's doing everything, which
makes it consistent even in the inconsistency. And by the way,
the fact that when somebody says who got a tattoo,
everybody looks at different parts of their body. In the
first place she goes is.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
To the pants.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
The opening scene with you So was so funny and
my favorite part of it is like you're I think
you're kind of just talking to yourself. You're like looking
in the bathroom mirror, like what the hell just happened?
And then from off camera we just hear shut up,
and the camera pans over to nothing but the feet
of miss Sharon Lawrence sticking out of the bathtub.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That was so.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Funny, and you're like, why, why the hell are you
even here?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It was such a good moment that visual though of
Sylvia just passed out, your feet kicking out. I loved.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I was thrown off a little though, because I thought
and I went back to check, I was like, did
we miss an episode in between the last one and
this one? So I guess we had a hiatus or
something because we you know, we didn't acknowledge the entire
storm and the car accident and Brook almost dying. He's
very dramatic. It was a lot to overlook.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, we don't have any of the post accident hospital stuff,
I guess because we'd done so much of it with
Quinn and Clay. But it was funny. The only mentioned
is you joy when Haley's talking to Nathan and you go,
she's just been through so much this year and he's like, yeah,
that's it, that's it.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Know.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
There were several kind of throwaway moments of recap stuff,
like Alex saying, well, it's no secret I tried to
kill myself so blah blah blah whatever she said. After that,
I was like, whoa that is it's just kind of abrasive.
I guess to just come right out with it. I mean,
I guess if that's your experience, you can own it.
How if you liked to, But it was it kind
(09:37):
of struck me as aggressive. I don't know. And then
what was the other one? Oh, Chantelle and she was like,
look it's me after I was shot. Remember the water
balloon hits her and she's like, it's me shot. I
was like, oh, that is really blunt.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
I mean, okay, guess if you're not laughing, you're crying.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think that's true.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I think so we grazed over all the trauma in
this episode just so that we could get to the comedy.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, And you know, I have to say, because I
had the same moment where I thought, I think Quinn's
in the back of the car and there's a conversation
happening and I just found myself going, wow, we've we
haven't seen her talk to anyone about the like knockdown,
drag out fight and she almost died with the stalker
at that, Like, that's crazy. But I have to say,
(10:32):
given the nature of this episode, I was okay with that. Yeah,
because I loved this ride. I appreciated that we didn't
have to get off it to service any other past stories.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
It was just like, we're going to be fun for
forty two minutes and that's all we're going to do.
And that was great because truly, it has been so
heavy like lately that it was nice to have like
a palate cleanser of friends being friends and getting into trouble.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
We didn't even bounce around to any different storyline. I mean,
it was just this the whole episode.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Right, A little Nathan and Kellerman, Oh.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Nathan and kellermant so a little bit, but it all
tied together in the yes, so it was really actually necessary.
It wasn't like separated. Yeah. I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You two had a really funny bit in that kind
of opening sequence when Brooke realizes there's a phone number
written on her leg and Hayley does the most mom
thing where she just reaches down and smudges it with
her finger and she goes oh, and then puts her
finger in her mouth to taste it and goes, oh,
it's chocolate, and goes did you just taste that? And
(11:35):
you just so nonchalmly go eh, I'm pregnant. But it's
also such a mom thing, right, because yeah, you become
so desensitized to like having booger's vomit pee everything on
you that it's like, what's a little questionable chocolate?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
You know, yeah, like whatever this is, how bad could
it be?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
And honestly, major points for Dave Navarro. Dude, he really
came to play and he was such a good sport
and he was so funny and he really leaned in.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
He got saddled with some horrible lines.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I wrote down the one he says, like the
first time we see him, and he when he's leaving
clothes over bros. Because he's been locked in there. He's
like a grown man who can't figure out how to
get out anyways. He's uh, he he goes, Brooke, you
were amazing. I can't remember the last time I busted
through that many condoms in one night.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Oof.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Can you imagine like being you're gonna be a one
episode guest star on a show you already are a
public figure. And that's like when you first get the
sides and you're excited and you read that line. I
would love to know what day of Navara thought of that,
because you know it's going to mean something else, but
it's still just it's so heavy handed.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, gross, we needed it though. It was good. It
was good for it was good for drama.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well and the panic because he did it in a
way that almost like in the sixth sense when you
realize he's been dead the whole time and you go,
oh my god, now now I'm seeing things I didn't see.
He delivers the line. He doesn't play it really icky
and creepy. He delivers it in this kind of excited,
almost childish way, and you're like, oh, wow, okay, yeah
(13:21):
he's a rock star. Oh boy, we're in trouble here.
And then when you realize they've had a water balloon fight,
you're like, oh, the guy's just probably not had any
innocent fun in such a long time. And it's so
it makes the way he delivers the line work. When
you realize what happened, it makes it work even better.
And what a cool thing he was able to do because,
(13:45):
like you said, Rob, he's a one episode guest star
and he played against certain things you would expect the
rock star guy to do. And I really give him
props for that.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, it runs parallel to what I was saying about
all of you women, that no one clung to any
sense of vanity at all and just went all in
on the comedy.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That's an easy especially, I.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Think if you're like a greener actor to be like, oh,
this is the line where I say it like sexy
or cool.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well I'm gonna be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And he, like you said, he didn't at all. He
said it so nonchalantly that it worked. It's it's also
it's just funny because like, there are so many ways
to say, hey, I had a really fun time throwing
water balloons with you last night. To say I've never
busted through so many condoms in a night is just
a crazy way to ray. But it's Dave.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Maybe that's just you know, that's how he sees the world.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
The fact that you guys really did commit so hard
to the comedy and the the vulnerability of being a
mess on camera made the the real dramatic stuff work
so well. Also that you know that, I mean, Sharon
Lawrence carried this episode for me because you guys got
to all be running around panicked and frantic, and and
(15:00):
she was this like sort of driving force watching doing
you know, I don't know if she was manipulating things necessarily,
but she was having fun watching. You know, she never
doubted that you guys would find the ring. It was
like she was kind of calm the whole time. And
then when you guys got up on the roof and
really started having it out, it was so raw and
(15:22):
honest and open. And I don't know that that would
have played as well if it had felt like there
was anything else in the episode that was disingenuous, like
perfect hair, makeup and things like that. So it really
I think that's actually what made the episode so great
for me, was the fact that you went so hard
(15:44):
on the comedy that the drama also could really drop
in and be really connected and real. It made me
emotional watching those scenes because I was already so invested,
and you know, when your emotions are high, whether you're
crying or laughing, they're still high. So it's actually not
that far of of a connecting point to get to
the opposite motion.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Hm. The ending of that, you guys yelling at each other,
that gut punch about the well you're not gonna be
able to give my son a family, it was like, yeah,
(16:27):
that's about as low as you can hit man, And
going back to the like just the commitment of it.
Can we just pause and appreciate for a moment that
we wrote Sharon Lawrence doing a keg stand into a script.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
She did it, and she did it?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Did it National Treasure? Sharon Lawrence was doing a keg
stand you guys.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yes, yes, incredible that that cut from all of us
dancing on the table over to her. I was like,
take a sip of water and literally did a spittake
in my own house, unwitnessed, but I was like, oh
my god, it shocked me in the best way. And
I think what I loved about it is you see
(17:14):
Brooke and Sylvia kind of at war and trying to
figure out how to relate to each other, and in
that way, some of the stuff that we know has
made Sylvia so sad it almost feels even better that
she's there. You know, Brook's like, why are you here?
And Sylvia says, you asked me, you invited me. You know,
(17:34):
they're trying to piece it all together, and watching her
in that sort of montage with the girls, I felt
like I got to see Sylvia have an experience that
she didn't get to have when she was younger. Yeah,
you know, she's lonely and she got to be one
of the girls for the night. And in a weird way,
Sylvia and Alex Duprey are kind of having similar experiences
(18:00):
and even though there's been tension or might be tension,
they really are still being welcomed in for who they are,
and it's so fun to see it. And it's really
seeing her and Brooke bonding and realizing that they have
these things to share with each other. It makes that
(18:21):
gut punch at the end even worse because it's like,
oh my god, they finally got somewhere real, even though
they blacked out.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, and you were guys, were building on your relationships
so much throughout the whole episode.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Also, I don't know how I've made it forty three
years and I have never heard the term smother in law.
I know, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's so good. I mean, speaking of the phone, that
scene her seeing smother in law, and then Sharon and
Austin's whole misdirection with each other, his physical comedy in
that beat, the way he leaps up out of that
bed and is like, mom.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Oh that moment, Oh my god, yes, which moment when
he calls U Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, it's so terrible. I might have to misbathe by myself.
I was like, no, don't, don't care. It was just
so good, and it is. It just plays on that
universal thing that no matter how old you are, no
matter how married you get, no matter what, your parents
are still your parents, and you just don't you don't
(19:32):
really want to have that conversation with that.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Oh her expression. I mean, honestly, you could just put
a camera on her face for an hour and because
she's always thinking, you know, she's always thinking something.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And then you get to the end of it and
she looks at me and goes, she'll give you a
ring later, right, Just all of it was chef's kiss.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Her advice to Brooke is so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
After Dave Navarro has done a lord's work and said
some of those brutal lines and then leaves. You know,
Brooke is devastated, and Sylvia is there to it. Sort
of initially seems like, oh, this is going to be
a really sweet bonding moment where she's going to take
her under her wing and give her some nice, loving wisdom.
And her advice is, honey, just don't tell Julian. Yeah, like,
(20:20):
oh my god, that's horrible advice. And look almost so sincere.
She was so sincere. It was so good.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
You can see that. I guess that's a difference in generations,
right like that. Maybe I don't know, but I feel
like in that generation there's a lot of sweeping things
under the rug, a lot of just you know, life
is hard enough, just keep going, just don't talk about it.
But also look where she is in her life and lonely,
And I love what Brooke says back about marriage being
(20:52):
about people loving each other for who they are. And
the confession that she gives to Julian at the end
was so heartbreak and I'm so so glad that it
turned out the way that it did.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I think it is definitely a generational divide, and I
was really I was glad to see that even though
it's I mean, listen, in my opinion, it's not the
right advice. I was both glad to see Sylvia try
to have Brooks back, even though it's you go like, no,
(21:25):
that's not what you're going to tell her that, But
you know why because Sylvia doesn't remember anything that happened
last night either, and you know, everyone's kind of like,
oh god, you know that's not real life. But it's
making excuses. And I love that Brooke is a person
maybe because she's been through so much who just says
(21:46):
I don't want to make excuses and I don't want
to hide anything. Yeah, And that's something that I really,
I don't know. I cherish that in people, and it
was nice to see her say, no matter how hard
this is, I want to just tell this person what happened,
(22:06):
what I know, what I don't know. I don't want
this to sit between us.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
There's a version of Brooke earlier that wouldn't have made
that choice. And I really that's the beauty of being
on a show for this long as you really get
to watch these characters develop and grow. And I love
where she is, that she's at that place now, so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, it's an integrity move, which has sort of been
the brand of Brooke, at least since I've jumped on
the train, you know for sure, because yeah, that's character,
Like yeah, what people don't know doesn't hurt them, but
it's like but you know, but.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, and it hurts you eventually, like just eating
away at you.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Well that's the thing. I think you can say that,
but then that thing is just going to fester always. Ooh,
and it's like I don't I don't want to live
a festery life. That's not the word I want to
describe my life with.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah. It's not respectful, it's not loving, yeah, because you're
not protecting someone. You're protecting your own comfort. That's what
you're protecting. Yeah, you know, you are avoiding potentially making
someone upset and ruining something you love, So you're really
it's kind of it's just a selfish move that you know,
people found a nice way to word around. But like,
(23:17):
don't be virtuous like you doing that's not virtuous. It's
you being selfish and not being brave.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah that's right. Okay, let me ask though, I have
never been blackout drunk where I really don't remember anything
I don't know if you guys have, but when Brooke
was really freaked out about kissing this guy, for me,
I was like, oh, free pass. Like she was totally
blacked out. How could she ever remember? Like, you don't
(23:44):
know what you're doing when you're blacked out. Why is
she so upset about this? I don't know. That was
my That was my knee jerk reaction. I was like,
I mean, I guess I would be. I'd be upset
that my partner got that drunk or but then you're like,
but somebody did, Like this was an accident. It's not
like guy went out and intentionally binge drank until a.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, like that doesn't take like bying tequila shots to
black out.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Now, that's a different issue.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Here's the thing that I think, and I actually do think,
even though the episode was rooted in so much comedy,
we did a good job with this. I think the
thing that's the most disconcerting is that she doesn't know
what happened, not know what's happened to you.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's so scary, so scary.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And I really think there's something in that, because then
you're going, did I even though I know I wasn't
in a place where I could have chosen it. Did
I somehow choose it? Did it happen to me? And
I didn't choose it? And then that's also awful, like
and so I think it's the not knowing and the
(24:51):
idea that in a block of time that you cannot recall,
you might have hurt someone you love. Like it's scary
thing on scary thing on scary thing, and that felt
so important to be sort of rooted in, and then
the comedy got to build around it of this essentially
(25:14):
a scavenger hunt and reverse. Yeah, we'll go to the
tattoo shop, we'll figure out where the piercing came from. Wait,
she came in here with the nickname Boots, So where
were we before? And it just keeps going and it's
so funny. But I like that the root of the
comedy is a true thing.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, super important for Brook to live in that space
for sure, of the insecurity of not knowing what happened
and what's going to happen as a result of what happened.
I think, just as an objective viewer, there was no
world in which I thought Julian would blame her for
that because she didn't do with this on purpose, right,
(25:54):
I don't know. I was curious what you guys might.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yes, And is because is it did an excuse to go.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I just got really drunk. It's like, but she didn't.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
She just did a normal amount of drinking where you
could still be like, although she did, it's like she
recognized Julian.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Yes, she didn't. She didn't remember things like. That's not that's.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Because of the smoothie. She was ambushed.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
She accidentally drugged herself smoothie ambushed.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, I don't know. It's it's kind of six of one,
half a dozen of the other, right where it's like
you you don't exactly get a pass, but you also
can't be completely punished.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah, it's not like it's nothing like oh well whatever.
But if I had a partner that came to me
and said, you're never gonna believe what happened. Look, I
blacked out, I drank something that and I had some
alcohol and I didn't I don't know what happened, but
I guess I kissed somebody at the bar last night.
But I literally have no memory of anything that happened.
And I wasn't out like binge drinking.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, it makes my tummy flip. I hate it. Really.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah. I think here's the thing. If if there's a
genuine like chemo reaction that wasn't planned and had merit,
That's one thing I thought you were just saying. If
your partner came home and was like, I'm sorry, I
got a little blackout drunk and I kissed someone, there's
no free pass in there.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
No no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
If it is the accidental drugging of oneself, yes, it
muddies the way.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, no, no free
pass on blackout drunk, I made out with somebody, It's like, no, no,
thank you. I choose not to have this in my life.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Here's what I think is tricky. We watched the episode
so we know all of this was harmless, and then
we know it turned out to be Julian in the
first place.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I had forgotten that.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And because we watched the girls and we know these
girls and we're like, there was no mal intent here,
I think we're more likely to give them a pass.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I think if this happened to you in your real life,
you would be hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I would be upset. You know, and I also be like,
what the hell, Like, you got drugged by a smoothie?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, It's like it's tricky, and I think that's part
of it. I think it's part of the reason why
people that are involved in something can say and mean
it it wasn't like that. We didn't realize and then
everybody blacked out and and you'll go, oh, okay, But
if if you heard about this through the grapevine, like
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a friend of a friend's sister, you'd be like, what
the that's not okay. So we we give more of
a pass to the people that we know because we
know what kind of people they are. And I think
it's why people judge strangers so intensely, because maybe you're
judging strangers as you are and not as they are,
and that that's part of the thing with TV. I think,
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because you you get to know a character, you know
their heart, you know their moral compass, you see them
as more of a whole person. And so I'm realizing
as we're sitting here and we're like, yeah, but how great,
and she was right and good for them, and it's like, yeah,
if we heard this about a stranger, we'd probably be
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way less patient.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Oh yeah, if a buddy came to me and went like, ah, yeah,
the new girl on dating, I guess she had a
bad smoothie that reacted to some booze she drank, and
she made out with a dude at the bar. There's
just no way in hell im going that's unfortunate. Man,
you should cut her some slack. Like that sounds so outlined.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But isn't that crazy because it could literally be this
exact situation and if you'd watched the episode, you'd be like,
oh no, absolutely not. Nothing bad happened those poor girls.
How funny. This'll be a great story in ten years.
And that's what's so funny to me is we I
think we give more of a pass, you know, to
the characters because we actually watch it happen and we
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know they're good people, which ironically is true of people
in the world. Usually I would hope that they're good people,
but we're so like that sounds real far fetched.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, also because it's TV and we're not logic proofing everything,
because the fact is, I don't know if any vegetables
or fruits that when combined with alcohol make you blackout,
like unless they put a little like Benadryll in your
smoothie exactly.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Don't understand the chemistry of that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
A Valerian room, and there probably isn't any right a
Valerian root. Yeah, it's so funny. You do in order
to be a viewer, you have to be willing to
suspend disbelief, and that's part of what makes it kind
of fun.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
The moment when Alex falls off the bowl and there's
that little I sort of took as an homage to
Million Dollar Baby because it's just that close up of
her falling off and hitting the railing with her head
in a terrible angle.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
But then, of course, because then she falls out of
frame and it's like it's very million dollar Baby. But
then of course she does the alexy and she's like
she pops up and she's like, yeah, it was so funny.
I just I thought that was a little wink and
I just I enjoyed the heck out of that.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, great that. I've never ridden a mechanical bull, have you.
I mean, how did that go for you? You guys have
done that?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, the famous Saddle Ranch in La.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, I lived right there. I used to live right
behind it.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
There's only so many ways you can impress a gal,
and sometimes you just got to get up on that
mechanical bowl and show her what you think you're made of.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Did they have speed control on that when they were
filming this episode for you guys, I'm sure totally. Okay.
I don't know how it goes. If it's like a
ride that just goes at its own, you never know
what to expect.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
It has levels, Okay, someone manning the controls. So if
you show up and like you're cocky, you are gonna
get bucked in a big way.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Whereas if it's like someone puts the Grandma on it,
they can be very gentle with it and make sure
she doesn't, you know, hurt herself.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, was this a carnival job you had at one time?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Rub listen, don't get into my history.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yes, yes, I did the tilta whirl and I did
the mechanical bowl. I love that for you.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I don't know why I've never done it. I think
I just don't like the idea of getting thrown off
of something that doesn't sound super fun.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's so fun, though, I guess I'll land in like
a bounce house type flooring. So yeah, it's a fun one.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Joy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think it would be funny though, that the first
time you did it would be like once you're a
mom in my forties, like yeah, yeah, I wasn't going
to date you, but yeah, sure in your forties. I
think that would be hilarious that you're like, nah, in
my twenties and I don't think so thirties, forties.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Now it feels right now, now it's time. Yeah, I'm due,
I'm overdue. I'm in all right, I'll send you a
photo from the Bull.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yes please. It is really fun to play games and
do kid things as an adult. I think that's why
the water balloon fight is so fun. Yeah, and they
you know, there's nowhere in the middle of the night
to get water balloons, so they've clearly gone to a
gas station and bought a box of condoms. And I
love that it's all these girls in these feather bow is,
screaming in their party outfits, playing this water balloon fight
(33:31):
so aggressively. It looks like a game of paintball. Yeah,
and it is just it's so fun that everybody really
went like the bull full tilt.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Hey, who was the crew member? Because little bts here?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, the gentleman eating wings with Sylvia and the wing
eating contest.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yes, was member of our crew. Was he a transpo captain?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yes, who either was employed as or was a volunteer
firefighter if I remember erectly, Yeah, because he remember he'd
come in his fire jacket sometimes.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
He was a big dude, a big dude.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And to see those two side by side pounding wings
together and have Sharon Wynne was so good.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
The tie in for her mouth being on fire. We
had to wait like forty minutes into the episode to
find out why it's so good?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
What is that? And I loved in this walk and
talk with these two girls, by the way, in full
walk of shame but shameless walking barefoot down Front Street together.
You know, Sharon has this really sweet bit about how
she's never won anything and she's thanking Brook for this
great night because now she's champion.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, it's so sweet, just so sweet.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Did you either of you clock the fact that when
Brooke finally comes home towards the end of the episode
and Julian's waiting for her, he's stretched out on the
couch and his feet are up and he's wearing shoes.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Oh everybody does that? On this show. What time?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Didn't none of it? I mean, did we just not
push back on that? Were we just a busy day?
But those are your outside shoes. You have your feed
up on the pillows, the throw pillows. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, it's such an indicator that those shoes were never
actually worn outside.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah, it's an indicator of being on a set and
that the shoes were never actually worn outside. That you
feel you just to subconsciously feel so comfortable because you're like, no,
that's pretty clean.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah. Well, and in my brain, you know, he's ready
to go, they've got their rehearsal. I don't know. Maybe
it was meant to show that she's late. I don't know,
but yeah, every time everybody puts their freaking shoes on
the furniture in the show.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's strange. I did love the reveal of when you
get to the church and it's decorated beautifully that it
was Haley and Sylvia. Yeah, because first of all, Hailey's
obviously quite pregnant as we know, just that's good friending.
And then that Sylvia did that, it gave it just
(36:09):
was the perfect setup for the repair that you two have.
It's kind of this cool thing I was thinking about, Like,
I love I love that she invited herself to the
party because it's sort of like you both want a
relationship and it's just not lining up right, but you're
(36:30):
both continuing to show up and push the buttons until
you figure it out. Like no one dipped out, like
she could have just skipped down your left, but like
she forced herself back in and then it finally created
the right time for you guys to like really drop
it all, you know, have a heart to heart and
(36:50):
like bond, which was great because like I so want
that for a Brooke and for Sylvia.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah. Yeah, the level of humility that it required from
Sylvia in particular to be able to set aside all
of the things that she came in with, all the
ideas that she came in with about the wedding and
about their relationship and who Brooke was going to be
to her, that she was able to set all of
that down and just continue to show up for her
(37:18):
regardless of what her expectations were or desires. I love that. Again,
just like watching character growth, watching someone develop from who
they were when we met them, even in this short
amount of time, to see Sylvia grow like that. That
was really sweet seeing her in the church. And she
wasn't rubbing it in Brook's face. She wasn't like, if
(37:38):
only you had known that I was doing these nice
things for you this whole time. She didn't do any
of that. She was just there.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah. Well, and I think that might be part of
why the big fight between them services that moment, right,
because for Sylvia to say what she said is so awful. Yeah,
and I think that if that kind of outburst doesn't
cause self reflection and for you to, for any human
(38:08):
to do that, you've got to be able to say, Okay,
I've clearly lost the plot a little bit here. Yeah,
I'm being triggered by something or I'm being absolutely unhinged.
And I thought that the circle back for them with
Sylvia saying, I'm essentially saying I'm so stuck in the
past that I can't be in the present. I'm missing
(38:30):
my whole life. It's a big lesson, it's a big vulnerability,
and I think in an interesting way, each of those
women knows what that means and they both want to
move forward. Yeah, you know, Broke references it a little
bit with you know, the Lucas and Peyton of it
(38:52):
all earlier in the episode, and when you think about
how many years Brooke didn't let anyone in because she
didn't want to get hurt again, the circumstances are different,
but she knows what Sylvia is talking about. And in
a way, I think it had to be these two
women who could help each other kind of get to
(39:12):
the next phase of their lives, because in this instance,
Sylvia is helping Brook, you know, except that her best
friend is never going to move home and that's hard.
And you know, asterisk on that selks that you know
they were behind the scenes politics because at the time
we were told that our friends who played those characters
(39:35):
were invited back for this episode and turned it down,
and you know, all this time. Yeah, and I remember
even at the time hearing that, and like, you know,
our shooting schedules were so crazy and whatnot. And I
knew if I knew that wasn't true, I'd be so upset.
So I didn't ask Hillary until like a couple of
(39:55):
weeks after we filmed the wedding if that was true.
I was like, Hey, I just want to know. I
won't say anything, and you know, we didn't we didn't
talk about it, probably for years, but like even even then,
I was like, oh, I'm really sad if this isn't true.
I'd rather think they were going to come and then
were unavailable because of other things they're shooting. Yeah, then
(40:17):
think that the grown ups in the room are so
petty they're not even going to be invited. Yeah, And
like it's interesting that in a way we were processing
something on camera that we were processing off too, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And I think it's another example of brooks integrity and
her just high roading the hell out of the situation
because I mean, look at what was said right, Like
what she threw in Sylvia's face is the truth, So
it wasn't me Listen, the way she delivered the message
(40:49):
was kind of devoid of compassion, but she was speaking
to a behavioral choice. And what Sylvia did was cruel.
She attacked something that's out of Brooks control. There's nothing
actionable for Brooke to do there.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
It was a very very mean thing to do. So
I think her decorating the church was a nice gesture
in the right direction. I think where to me, where
I really saw grace was in how Brooke handled it.
That was the appropriate move for Sylvia to begin a repair,
and I think to see Brooke be able to accept it.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
That was where I saw the grace.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
In the scene, because she, to me, was the one
who really got really really wronged.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, that's a nice observation, Rob. I'm listening to you
talk thinking, God, I'm just so glad Rob is a dad.
It's really glad you're raising kids to have good men
in our corner that want to really analyze emotions and things.
Is like, that's so nice.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I'm so glad that the camera doesn't pan over right
now and you see my three year old drinking mountain
dew and lighting fireworks off by himself. So let's just
stick with that narrative. You've got to keep the frame
right here. Okay. I appreciate it, and I liked I
liked the button on the end of it all with
Haley being asked to be the maid of honor.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yeah, yeah, so sweet.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
She's the one who showed up.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah. And it has been a really sort of special
amount of time, right, you get we've gotten all of
our season seven, we've gotten half of our season eight
to get to see Brooke and Haley's friendship. Not that
it wasn't there before. It's always been you know, since
since we became friends early. It's been a great relationship.
(42:41):
But I think for both of these women who've been
juggling a lot and going through a lot in these
last two years, let's call it to have a moment.
It sort of was like, Oh, it's the first moment
where they've really gotten to pause and talk about their
friendship because they've been so busy living it.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yeah, and it felt out fires Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, I really like they've had so much going on
and it was just it wasn't even a long scene.
But I loved that we got to have it, and
I like that we were up in that balcony kind
of removed from everything.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, you know that quote. I've been thinking about it
a lot lately. If they wanted to, they would have
you heard that one. Yes, sort of all over like
the Instagram therapy and stuff. But I love it because
it's true, right, because I will I am guilty of
giving people infinite benefits of the doubt and creating a
story as to why they weren't able to do the
(43:35):
thing or whatever, you know. And I like this because
it's like Haley wanted to and she did. Yeah, she
didn't talk about it. She just showed up for her friend.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Yeah, that's so awesome. What a terrific like act of
love is. Just like, I see you, buddy, I'm here
to make your day special. Didn't make big fan fair
about it, just quietly doing work.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
Yeah that's great. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's so nice. It is really nice.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
All right. We got a question here.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Hey, nickname Katy Perry. That's cute.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
Can we just pretend it's the real Katy Perry?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Please, let's pretend it's the real Katy Perry.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Okay, Joey take it away.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Okay. We learned in this episode that the Bachelor Bachelorette
parties are on December seventh, because of the T shirt
revealing the tour dates. Oh look at that little detail.
They almost that nugget. However, there are no Christmas decorations
and anyone's homes in anyone's homes or the stores or
the town. Was this an oversight or why was December
(44:47):
seventh chosen as the wedding date?
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Can I just tell you, Katy Perry, you know the
musical genius I kissed a girl all the other songs
we know and love. You pay such good attention to detail.
Just yes, besides your musical prowess, like you're a great viewer,
So thank you.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
I'm really impressed by this question. I didn't notice any
of that.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
The only thing I could think is was that an
actual tour shirt of Dave Navarro's Because if it was,
then it was just because that was the Oh wait, no,
but that band didn't go to Wilmington, right.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
No, definitely not because we had to make a.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
True Oh yeah, Tree Hill? What am I saying?
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah? Yeah, so they had to make that. And when
did this stuff air?
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Though?
Speaker 5 (45:31):
I guess this is after hiatus, so we would have
aired this in December for fans. Well, I don't know,
because it says up here, okay, when was the aired
January twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Weird, that just seems like an oversight.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We might have had to film this before our holiday break.
So yeah, I wonder I wonder if it was an
actual James Addiction shirt and maybe they just ironed Tree
over another city.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
I wonder if the art department was if we were
actually filming on December seventh, that like that was the
day they were making the T shirt and they were realized.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yes, it was like an a December seventh.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
I guess who knows. I don't know. We never did
any holiday anything on our show.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
No, we only did Thanksgiving and Halloween.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
That's right, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (46:19):
Christmas episodes are so much fun?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
The only one who loves a Christmas episode?
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I feel like the reason we didn't is because the
decorations are so expensive and they have to go up
all over town and inside homes and outside homes and
across the street, like, you know, with the things that
I just think they wouldn't have spent the money for
an episode. It's like, that's why people make Christmas movies
because the entire movie, the decorations are up the whole time,
(46:49):
so it's worth the money.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
But we could have done a what do they call
it a bottle episode? A capsule episode, Yeah, where it's
just all in one place.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
And you know, yeah, you could have decorated one block
of Front Street and had us all at Nathan and
Haley's again or something.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, missed opportunity. We have a Valentine's one coming up apparently, though.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
That's kind of we do what we sure do. Oh,
and Jamie did.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Create that Christmas for Lydia when she died. He created
that little like Christmas tree Christmas in July.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Let's be honest, he half asked it.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
It was.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Five year old year old.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Honorable mention most likely too, what do we do want
to do? First?
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Dog on a skateboard? He was professional.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Skateboard Oh my goodness. Honestly, I would give my honorable
mention to all of our background actors in this episode,
because the parties wouldn't have worked if they weren't all
so great, from the frat boys to the people at
the Mechanical bull bar, everybody doing the wings, even the
(47:54):
lovely girl who played the bartender when I'm freaking out
about how I kissed someone because I'm engaged, and she goes, yeah,
you told me like a million times. Everybody was so good,
and you just can't shoot an episode that relies on
a crowd without a great crowd. So hats off to
all the people who helped make us look nuts this week.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, can anyone else noticed that the frat house was
Delta Beta dB. I was like, was that a joke?
Because frat boys are often douchebags?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Oh or is.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
It just because it's it's just not a real fraternity
and they just made it up paphazardly. But I was
curious to see the way they portrayed the guys because
if they were real dingises, I'd be like, oh, shanea
good one.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
But that's funny, funny.
Speaker 6 (48:42):
We should ask her da Vinci codes something that's not there.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
My honorable mention is just going to go to Shana,
the writer of the episode, because she just nailed it
and all the little details every character had their shining moment.
She wove in the drama and the comedy so masterfully.
It was a really really well written episode from top
to bottom.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
Yeah, should we spin a wheel?
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Let's do it spin.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Ooh. Most likely to order dessert before dinner, Rob, Yeah,
if we're going real life.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Robert Butler, Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
I have zero impulse control around food, So I'm going
to say, in real life, it's probably me.
Speaker 5 (49:27):
And what would your dessert of choice be, sir?
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Listen if it's a place that makes a legitimate surero
say no more. How about you. You're at a restaurant,
they go, hey, we have an amazing pastry chef. We
can make anything in the world immediately. What would you
like anything immediately?
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yep. Oh man, it's like a food genie, but you
only get one wish and it has to be dessert.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
So I had an answer, and then when you said
anything in the world immediately, a chocolate crepe popped into
my head. I change my answer to a creep.
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Okay, I really like pavlova.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Oh, Mavlova is good.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
You're up in Portland, do you go to Papa Hayden Ever? No, Okay,
there's a restaurant there unless it's close during COVID. It's
called Papa Hayden and they do unbelievable desserts and they
do this really great. They have like a baked Alaska.
They have pavlova.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Stay less.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Well, you'll go, You'll enjoy it. You'll go, you'll enjoy
get the pavlova.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
Well getting as usual, I managed to force food into
the episode, so I think that checks the last of
our boxes. Thanks for joining us, everyone.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Thanks everybody. We'll see you next week for season eight,
episode thirteen, The Other half of Me.
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
You know how sometimes you don't even know what you
need until you get it, and you're like, how was
I getting by without this? And this is what this
episode felt like to me. Oh, this episode was so
much fun. I mean, listen, we got a lot to
get into, so let me just break it down. It's
season eight, episode twelve, The Drinks We Drank Last Night.
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It aired January twenty fifth, twenty eleven. Synopsis reads, After
a wild night out on the town for a bachelorreat party,
Brook and the girls try to piece together the night
before while looking for Brooks missing engagement ring, and dealing
with the aftermath. The day of Brook and Julian's rehearsal,
the girls at the bachelor at party take something from
Nathan's professor prompting Nathan to confront him. Also, a dog
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rides a skateboard directed by They Wanted Only Chad Graves,
written by Shana Fuel.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Shana who moved on to Outlander, which we lost.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So good.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Okay, guys, this was so fun to watch because obviously
I was so pregnant that I was hardly in the episode.
I mean, I remember showing up for a couple of
the like the search party moments that we did, and
then I remember coming to the beach house and looking
at the complete disarray that Hayley shows up in, and
that was fun. But all of the partying stuff, all
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of the feather boa, like the bull riding, all of
it I missed. I wasn't there, and it was so
fun to watch. You guys did great.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was such a blast. We had such a good
time on this episode. And you know, when you're on
your twelfth episode of the season, you're essentially halfway through.
People are usually a little tired, and you know, the
sleeplessness for six months is getting to you. And this episode,
I mean, it was like a shot of adrenaline for us.
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It was so fun and so silly, and you know,
whether it was dancing on the table at the frat house,
or stealing the ice cream truck. I still don't know
where that came from. It's just it was sort of
like Shana took the idea of the Hangover and ran
with it for the girls, and I loved it.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Had the Hangover come out yet? I think it must have?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I think so, wasn't that two thousand and six?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Oh my gosh, did you actually just whip out the
correct release here of the Hangover?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It was a total gut assumption. I will be amazed
if I'm correct about that.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
That's incredible. You're right two nine.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
An upside down six. That's why my brain I'm just
like it works all right.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So yeah, we had little inspiration perhaps from the Hangover.
One thing I just sort of a general note about
the whole episode that I so appreciated was no one
was trying to look good. I say, it's about your
comedy A lot joy that I see you go for it.
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You know, there's no vanity in comedy, at least there's
no vanity in good comedy. And everyone really leaned into
it and was not concerned with my angle? Do I
look okay? Is it was just everyone swung for the fences,
and as a result, it is just so funny to
see the physical comedy in this one was great.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, you nailed that. That's absolutely right. I didn't think
about that until you just said it. But it's one
of the main reasons why it works so well is
that to have a room full of women and no vanity,
that's exciting. That's really exciting to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well. And then the sort of BTS comedy that you
don't see on screen is that instead of coming in
you know, every third take, because we're in the South
and everyone's sweating to give us touch ups, our hair
and makeup team is actually coming in to make sure
we look worse to you know, make sure this smeared
lipstick is there, to make sure you know your hair's lopsided.
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And it was really fun to get to do that
because there was I mean, listen, the CW gets made
fun of for it all the time, that everybody has
to look good always, even if they're running from vampires
or like, you know, underwater, and it's nice to be
able to really lean into being a hot mess. Oh.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I don't think we ever would have done that the
first few seasons. No way, we wouldn't. I don't think
we would have been allowed to. They would have seen
one day of dailies and been like reshoots.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, but speaking of the CW. Laughed out loud and
have in my notes that that day spa is wall
to wall hot masseurs, and I was like, this is
the most c W. That's my note is this is
the most c W day spa of all time.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yes, only Alex could have arranged that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
There wasn't a dude over twenty eight, everyone had less
than ten percent body fat, everyone had a good tan.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It was hilarious to me.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, it was like a calendar like audition for just
like hot shirtless dudes.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It probably was.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It was so fun to have actual Alex, our friend
from town, play one of the hot messewers who's telling Haley, oh,
the drinks are perfectly safe and thank god you don't
have any because you're pregnant.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah. I forgot about Alex. I knew that guy looked
so familiar, and I was like, I remember shooting this
scene with him, Why is he is he just familiar
because I remember that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Moment that's my friend. Ah, so fun, so so funny.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I was kind of a little judge of Haley at
first not drinking this movie. I was like, what's wrong
with her? She just drank the smoothie. I forgot it's
the whole device.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But the smoothies themselves were okay. It was just when
you combined them with alcohol. Yes, Oh it was like
a baking soda vinegar situation.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, they were some sort of wellness tonic.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
What the hell kind of smoothie can't be mixed with alcohol,
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
The unraveling of that with Alex is so good because
she everyone looks at her like, what the hell was
in those drinks? And she goes, I don't know. People
get someone goes, what was in those energy drinks? And
she goes, I don't know energy energy. You know. When
in the room is satisfied with that answer, and she's like,
I I'll go find out.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
She had some great one liners, great moments in this episode.
I feel like everybody really had their own, had their
own unique moment, like Lisa getting the tattoo was so great,
and her spinning around in circles trying to see her
like a puppy and yeah, was great. And again, you know,
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she's so consistent with Alex Duprey's inconsistency that it's really
endearing that you never know what you're going to get
she Is she pulling a trick, is she being manipulative?
Is she being really sincere? I don't know at this point.
I don't never know what to expect from her. But
I really liked her vibe in this episode.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And that nice moment towards the end where it just
sort of showed that she's she's not dumb and she's
not totally unaware. When she's like, I know I got
invited and that's okay, I just want to be around
some friends, it was like, Oh, like you said, it's
like she's consistently inconsistent, because that was a moment where
I went, now that that's a person I can root for.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, she needs real friends, so she knows it at
the root of it. That's why she's doing everything, which
makes it consistent even in the inconsistency. And by the way,
the fact that when somebody says who got a tattoo,
everybody looks at different parts of their body. In the
first place she goes is.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
To the pants.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
The opening scene with you So was so funny and
my favorite part of it is like you're I think
you're kind of just talking to yourself. You're like looking
in the bathroom mirror, like what the hell just happened?
And then from off camera we just hear shut up,
and the camera pans over to nothing but the feet
of miss Sharon Lawrence sticking out of the bathtub.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That was so.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Funny, and you're like, why, why the hell are you
even here?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It was such a good moment that visual though of
Sylvia just passed out, your feet kicking out. I loved.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I was thrown off a little though, because I thought
and I went back to check, I was like, did
we miss an episode in between the last one and
this one? So I guess we had a hiatus or
something because we you know, we didn't acknowledge the entire
storm and the car accident and Brook almost dying. He's
very dramatic. It was a lot to overlook.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, we don't have any of the post accident hospital stuff,
I guess because we'd done so much of it with
Quinn and Clay. But it was funny. The only mentioned
is you joy when Haley's talking to Nathan and you go,
she's just been through so much this year and he's like, yeah,
that's it, that's it.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Know.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
There were several kind of throwaway moments of recap stuff,
like Alex saying, well, it's no secret I tried to
kill myself so blah blah blah whatever she said. After that,
I was like, whoa that is it's just kind of abrasive.
I guess to just come right out with it. I mean,
I guess if that's your experience, you can own it.
How if you liked to, But it was it kind
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of struck me as aggressive. I don't know. And then
what was the other one? Oh, Chantelle and she was like,
look it's me after I was shot. Remember the water
balloon hits her and she's like, it's me shot. I
was like, oh, that is really blunt.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
I mean, okay, guess if you're not laughing, you're crying.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think that's true.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I think so we grazed over all the trauma in
this episode just so that we could get to the comedy.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, And you know, I have to say, because I
had the same moment where I thought, I think Quinn's
in the back of the car and there's a conversation
happening and I just found myself going, wow, we've we
haven't seen her talk to anyone about the like knockdown,
drag out fight and she almost died with the stalker
at that, Like, that's crazy. But I have to say,
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given the nature of this episode, I was okay with that. Yeah,
because I loved this ride. I appreciated that we didn't
have to get off it to service any other past stories.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
It was just like, we're going to be fun for
forty two minutes and that's all we're going to do.
And that was great because truly, it has been so
heavy like lately that it was nice to have like
a palate cleanser of friends being friends and getting into trouble.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
We didn't even bounce around to any different storyline. I mean,
it was just this the whole episode.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Right, A little Nathan and Kellerman, Oh.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Nathan and kellermant so a little bit, but it all
tied together in the yes, so it was really actually necessary.
It wasn't like separated. Yeah. I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You two had a really funny bit in that kind
of opening sequence when Brooke realizes there's a phone number
written on her leg and Hayley does the most mom
thing where she just reaches down and smudges it with
her finger and she goes oh, and then puts her
finger in her mouth to taste it and goes, oh,
it's chocolate, and goes did you just taste that? And
(11:35):
you just so nonchalmly go eh, I'm pregnant. But it's
also such a mom thing, right, because yeah, you become
so desensitized to like having booger's vomit pee everything on
you that it's like, what's a little questionable chocolate?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
You know, yeah, like whatever this is, how bad could
it be?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
And honestly, major points for Dave Navarro. Dude, he really
came to play and he was such a good sport
and he was so funny and he really leaned in.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
He got saddled with some horrible lines.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I wrote down the one he says, like the
first time we see him, and he when he's leaving
clothes over bros. Because he's been locked in there. He's
like a grown man who can't figure out how to
get out anyways. He's uh, he he goes, Brooke, you
were amazing. I can't remember the last time I busted
through that many condoms in one night.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Oof.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Can you imagine like being you're gonna be a one
episode guest star on a show you already are a
public figure. And that's like when you first get the
sides and you're excited and you read that line. I
would love to know what day of Navara thought of that,
because you know it's going to mean something else, but
it's still just it's so heavy handed.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, gross, we needed it though. It was good. It
was good for it was good for drama.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well and the panic because he did it in a
way that almost like in the sixth sense when you
realize he's been dead the whole time and you go,
oh my god, now now I'm seeing things I didn't see.
He delivers the line. He doesn't play it really icky
and creepy. He delivers it in this kind of excited,
almost childish way, and you're like, oh, wow, okay, yeah
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he's a rock star. Oh boy, we're in trouble here.
And then when you realize they've had a water balloon fight,
you're like, oh, the guy's just probably not had any
innocent fun in such a long time. And it's so
it makes the way he delivers the line work. When
you realize what happened, it makes it work even better.
And what a cool thing he was able to do because,
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like you said, Rob, he's a one episode guest star
and he played against certain things you would expect the
rock star guy to do. And I really give him
props for that.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, it runs parallel to what I was saying about
all of you women, that no one clung to any
sense of vanity at all and just went all in
on the comedy.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That's an easy especially, I.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Think if you're like a greener actor to be like, oh,
this is the line where I say it like sexy
or cool.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well I'm gonna be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And he, like you said, he didn't at all. He
said it so nonchalantly that it worked. It's it's also
it's just funny because like, there are so many ways
to say, hey, I had a really fun time throwing
water balloons with you last night. To say I've never
busted through so many condoms in a night is just
a crazy way to ray. But it's Dave.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Maybe that's just you know, that's how he sees the world.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
The fact that you guys really did commit so hard
to the comedy and the the vulnerability of being a
mess on camera made the the real dramatic stuff work
so well. Also that you know that, I mean, Sharon
Lawrence carried this episode for me because you guys got
to all be running around panicked and frantic, and and
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she was this like sort of driving force watching doing
you know, I don't know if she was manipulating things necessarily,
but she was having fun watching. You know, she never
doubted that you guys would find the ring. It was
like she was kind of calm the whole time. And
then when you guys got up on the roof and
really started having it out, it was so raw and
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honest and open. And I don't know that that would
have played as well if it had felt like there
was anything else in the episode that was disingenuous, like
perfect hair, makeup and things like that. So it really
I think that's actually what made the episode so great
for me, was the fact that you went so hard
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on the comedy that the drama also could really drop
in and be really connected and real. It made me
emotional watching those scenes because I was already so invested,
and you know, when your emotions are high, whether you're
crying or laughing, they're still high. So it's actually not
that far of of a connecting point to get to
the opposite motion.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Hm. The ending of that, you guys yelling at each other,
that gut punch about the well you're not gonna be
able to give my son a family, it was like, yeah,
(16:27):
that's about as low as you can hit man, And
going back to the like just the commitment of it.
Can we just pause and appreciate for a moment that
we wrote Sharon Lawrence doing a keg stand into a script.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
She did it, and she did it?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Did it National Treasure? Sharon Lawrence was doing a keg
stand you guys.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yes, yes, incredible that that cut from all of us
dancing on the table over to her. I was like,
take a sip of water and literally did a spittake
in my own house, unwitnessed, but I was like, oh
my god, it shocked me in the best way. And
I think what I loved about it is you see
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Brooke and Sylvia kind of at war and trying to
figure out how to relate to each other, and in
that way, some of the stuff that we know has
made Sylvia so sad it almost feels even better that
she's there. You know, Brook's like, why are you here?
And Sylvia says, you asked me, you invited me. You know,
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they're trying to piece it all together, and watching her
in that sort of montage with the girls, I felt
like I got to see Sylvia have an experience that
she didn't get to have when she was younger. Yeah,
you know, she's lonely and she got to be one
of the girls for the night. And in a weird way,
Sylvia and Alex Duprey are kind of having similar experiences
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and even though there's been tension or might be tension,
they really are still being welcomed in for who they are,
and it's so fun to see it. And it's really
seeing her and Brooke bonding and realizing that they have
these things to share with each other. It makes that
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gut punch at the end even worse because it's like,
oh my god, they finally got somewhere real, even though
they blacked out.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, and you were guys, were building on your relationships
so much throughout the whole episode.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Also, I don't know how I've made it forty three
years and I have never heard the term smother in law.
I know, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's so good. I mean, speaking of the phone, that
scene her seeing smother in law, and then Sharon and
Austin's whole misdirection with each other, his physical comedy in
that beat, the way he leaps up out of that
bed and is like, mom.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Oh that moment, Oh my god, yes, which moment when
he calls U Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, it's so terrible. I might have to misbathe by myself.
I was like, no, don't, don't care. It was just
so good, and it is. It just plays on that
universal thing that no matter how old you are, no
matter how married you get, no matter what, your parents
are still your parents, and you just don't you don't
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really want to have that conversation with that.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Oh her expression. I mean, honestly, you could just put
a camera on her face for an hour and because
she's always thinking, you know, she's always thinking something.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And then you get to the end of it and
she looks at me and goes, she'll give you a
ring later, right, Just all of it was chef's kiss.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Her advice to Brooke is so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
After Dave Navarro has done a lord's work and said
some of those brutal lines and then leaves. You know,
Brooke is devastated, and Sylvia is there to it. Sort
of initially seems like, oh, this is going to be
a really sweet bonding moment where she's going to take
her under her wing and give her some nice, loving wisdom.
And her advice is, honey, just don't tell Julian. Yeah, like,
(20:20):
oh my god, that's horrible advice. And look almost so sincere.
She was so sincere. It was so good.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
You can see that. I guess that's a difference in generations,
right like that. Maybe I don't know, but I feel
like in that generation there's a lot of sweeping things
under the rug, a lot of just you know, life
is hard enough, just keep going, just don't talk about it.
But also look where she is in her life and lonely,
And I love what Brooke says back about marriage being
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about people loving each other for who they are. And
the confession that she gives to Julian at the end
was so heartbreak and I'm so so glad that it
turned out the way that it did.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I think it is definitely a generational divide, and I
was really I was glad to see that even though
it's I mean, listen, in my opinion, it's not the
right advice. I was both glad to see Sylvia try
to have Brooks back, even though it's you go like, no,
(21:25):
that's not what you're going to tell her that, But
you know why because Sylvia doesn't remember anything that happened
last night either, and you know, everyone's kind of like,
oh god, you know that's not real life. But it's
making excuses. And I love that Brooke is a person
maybe because she's been through so much who just says
(21:46):
I don't want to make excuses and I don't want
to hide anything. Yeah, And that's something that I really,
I don't know. I cherish that in people, and it
was nice to see her say, no matter how hard
this is, I want to just tell this person what happened,
(22:06):
what I know, what I don't know. I don't want
this to sit between us.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
There's a version of Brooke earlier that wouldn't have made
that choice. And I really that's the beauty of being
on a show for this long as you really get
to watch these characters develop and grow. And I love
where she is, that she's at that place now, so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, it's an integrity move, which has sort of been
the brand of Brooke, at least since I've jumped on
the train, you know for sure, because yeah, that's character,
Like yeah, what people don't know doesn't hurt them, but
it's like but you know, but.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, and it hurts you eventually, like just eating
away at you.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Well that's the thing. I think you can say that,
but then that thing is just going to fester always. Ooh,
and it's like I don't I don't want to live
a festery life. That's not the word I want to
describe my life with.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah. It's not respectful, it's not loving, yeah, because you're
not protecting someone. You're protecting your own comfort. That's what
you're protecting. Yeah, you know, you are avoiding potentially making
someone upset and ruining something you love, So you're really
it's kind of it's just a selfish move that you know,
people found a nice way to word around. But like,
(23:17):
don't be virtuous like you doing that's not virtuous. It's
you being selfish and not being brave.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah that's right. Okay, let me ask though, I have
never been blackout drunk where I really don't remember anything
I don't know if you guys have, but when Brooke
was really freaked out about kissing this guy, for me,
I was like, oh, free pass. Like she was totally
blacked out. How could she ever remember? Like, you don't
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know what you're doing when you're blacked out. Why is
she so upset about this? I don't know. That was
my That was my knee jerk reaction. I was like,
I mean, I guess I would be. I'd be upset
that my partner got that drunk or but then you're like,
but somebody did, Like this was an accident. It's not
like guy went out and intentionally binge drank until a.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, like that doesn't take like bying tequila shots to
black out.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Now, that's a different issue.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Here's the thing that I think, and I actually do think,
even though the episode was rooted in so much comedy,
we did a good job with this. I think the
thing that's the most disconcerting is that she doesn't know
what happened, not know what's happened to you.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's so scary, so scary.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And I really think there's something in that, because then
you're going, did I even though I know I wasn't
in a place where I could have chosen it. Did
I somehow choose it? Did it happen to me? And
I didn't choose it? And then that's also awful, like
and so I think it's the not knowing and the
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idea that in a block of time that you cannot recall,
you might have hurt someone you love. Like it's scary
thing on scary thing on scary thing, and that felt
so important to be sort of rooted in, and then
the comedy got to build around it of this essentially
(25:14):
a scavenger hunt and reverse. Yeah, we'll go to the
tattoo shop, we'll figure out where the piercing came from. Wait,
she came in here with the nickname Boots, So where
were we before? And it just keeps going and it's
so funny. But I like that the root of the
comedy is a true thing.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, super important for Brook to live in that space
for sure, of the insecurity of not knowing what happened
and what's going to happen as a result of what happened.
I think, just as an objective viewer, there was no
world in which I thought Julian would blame her for
that because she didn't do with this on purpose, right,
(25:54):
I don't know. I was curious what you guys might.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yes, And is because is it did an excuse to go.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I just got really drunk. It's like, but she didn't.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
She just did a normal amount of drinking where you
could still be like, although she did, it's like she
recognized Julian.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Yes, she didn't. She didn't remember things like. That's not that's.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Because of the smoothie. She was ambushed.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
She accidentally drugged herself smoothie ambushed.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, I don't know. It's it's kind of six of one,
half a dozen of the other, right where it's like
you you don't exactly get a pass, but you also
can't be completely punished.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah, it's not like it's nothing like oh well whatever.
But if I had a partner that came to me
and said, you're never gonna believe what happened. Look, I
blacked out, I drank something that and I had some
alcohol and I didn't I don't know what happened, but
I guess I kissed somebody at the bar last night.
But I literally have no memory of anything that happened.
And I wasn't out like binge drinking.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, it makes my tummy flip. I hate it. Really.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah. I think here's the thing. If if there's a
genuine like chemo reaction that wasn't planned and had merit,
That's one thing I thought you were just saying. If
your partner came home and was like, I'm sorry, I
got a little blackout drunk and I kissed someone, there's
no free pass in there.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
No no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
If it is the accidental drugging of oneself, yes, it
muddies the way.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, no, no free
pass on blackout drunk, I made out with somebody, It's like, no, no,
thank you. I choose not to have this in my life.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Here's what I think is tricky. We watched the episode
so we know all of this was harmless, and then
we know it turned out to be Julian in the
first place.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I had forgotten that.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And because we watched the girls and we know these
girls and we're like, there was no mal intent here,
I think we're more likely to give them a pass.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I think if this happened to you in your real life,
you would be hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I would be upset. You know, and I also be like,
what the hell, Like, you got drugged by a smoothie?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, It's like it's tricky, and I think that's part
of it. I think it's part of the reason why
people that are involved in something can say and mean
it it wasn't like that. We didn't realize and then
everybody blacked out and and you'll go, oh, okay, But
if if you heard about this through the grapevine, like
(28:32):
a friend of a friend's sister, you'd be like, what
the that's not okay. So we we give more of
a pass to the people that we know because we
know what kind of people they are. And I think
it's why people judge strangers so intensely, because maybe you're
judging strangers as you are and not as they are,
and that that's part of the thing with TV. I think,
(28:56):
because you you get to know a character, you know
their heart, you know their moral compass, you see them
as more of a whole person. And so I'm realizing
as we're sitting here and we're like, yeah, but how great,
and she was right and good for them, and it's like, yeah,
if we heard this about a stranger, we'd probably be
(29:17):
way less patient.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Oh yeah, if a buddy came to me and went like, ah, yeah,
the new girl on dating, I guess she had a
bad smoothie that reacted to some booze she drank, and
she made out with a dude at the bar. There's
just no way in hell im going that's unfortunate. Man,
you should cut her some slack. Like that sounds so outlined.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But isn't that crazy because it could literally be this
exact situation and if you'd watched the episode, you'd be like,
oh no, absolutely not. Nothing bad happened those poor girls.
How funny. This'll be a great story in ten years.
And that's what's so funny to me is we I
think we give more of a pass, you know, to
the characters because we actually watch it happen and we
(29:58):
know they're good people, which ironically is true of people
in the world. Usually I would hope that they're good people,
but we're so like that sounds real far fetched.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, also because it's TV and we're not logic proofing everything,
because the fact is, I don't know if any vegetables
or fruits that when combined with alcohol make you blackout,
like unless they put a little like Benadryll in your
smoothie exactly.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Don't understand the chemistry of that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
A Valerian room, and there probably isn't any right a
Valerian root. Yeah, it's so funny. You do in order
to be a viewer, you have to be willing to
suspend disbelief, and that's part of what makes it kind
of fun.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
The moment when Alex falls off the bowl and there's
that little I sort of took as an homage to
Million Dollar Baby because it's just that close up of
her falling off and hitting the railing with her head
in a terrible angle.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
But then, of course, because then she falls out of
frame and it's like it's very million dollar Baby. But
then of course she does the alexy and she's like
she pops up and she's like, yeah, it was so funny.
I just I thought that was a little wink and
I just I enjoyed the heck out of that.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, great that. I've never ridden a mechanical bull, have you.
I mean, how did that go for you? You guys have
done that?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, the famous Saddle Ranch in La.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, I lived right there. I used to live right
behind it.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
There's only so many ways you can impress a gal,
and sometimes you just got to get up on that
mechanical bowl and show her what you think you're made of.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Did they have speed control on that when they were
filming this episode for you guys, I'm sure totally. Okay.
I don't know how it goes. If it's like a
ride that just goes at its own, you never know
what to expect.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
It has levels, Okay, someone manning the controls. So if
you show up and like you're cocky, you are gonna
get bucked in a big way.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Whereas if it's like someone puts the Grandma on it,
they can be very gentle with it and make sure
she doesn't, you know, hurt herself.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, was this a carnival job you had at one time?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Rub listen, don't get into my history.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yes, yes, I did the tilta whirl and I did
the mechanical bowl. I love that for you.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I don't know why I've never done it. I think
I just don't like the idea of getting thrown off
of something that doesn't sound super fun.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's so fun, though, I guess I'll land in like
a bounce house type flooring. So yeah, it's a fun one.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Joy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think it would be funny though, that the first
time you did it would be like once you're a
mom in my forties, like yeah, yeah, I wasn't going
to date you, but yeah, sure in your forties. I
think that would be hilarious that you're like, nah, in
my twenties and I don't think so thirties, forties.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Now it feels right now, now it's time. Yeah, I'm due,
I'm overdue. I'm in all right, I'll send you a
photo from the Bull.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yes please. It is really fun to play games and
do kid things as an adult. I think that's why
the water balloon fight is so fun. Yeah, and they
you know, there's nowhere in the middle of the night
to get water balloons, so they've clearly gone to a
gas station and bought a box of condoms. And I
love that it's all these girls in these feather bow is,
screaming in their party outfits, playing this water balloon fight
(33:31):
so aggressively. It looks like a game of paintball. Yeah,
and it is just it's so fun that everybody really
went like the bull full tilt.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Hey, who was the crew member? Because little bts here?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, the gentleman eating wings with Sylvia and the wing
eating contest.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yes, was member of our crew. Was he a transpo captain?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yes, who either was employed as or was a volunteer
firefighter if I remember erectly, Yeah, because he remember he'd
come in his fire jacket sometimes.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
He was a big dude, a big dude.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And to see those two side by side pounding wings
together and have Sharon Wynne was so good.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
The tie in for her mouth being on fire. We
had to wait like forty minutes into the episode to
find out why it's so good?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
What is that? And I loved in this walk and
talk with these two girls, by the way, in full
walk of shame but shameless walking barefoot down Front Street together.
You know, Sharon has this really sweet bit about how
she's never won anything and she's thanking Brook for this
great night because now she's champion.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, it's so sweet, just so sweet.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Did you either of you clock the fact that when
Brooke finally comes home towards the end of the episode
and Julian's waiting for her, he's stretched out on the
couch and his feet are up and he's wearing shoes.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Oh everybody does that? On this show. What time?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Didn't none of it? I mean, did we just not
push back on that? Were we just a busy day?
But those are your outside shoes. You have your feed
up on the pillows, the throw pillows. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, it's such an indicator that those shoes were never
actually worn outside.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah, it's an indicator of being on a set and
that the shoes were never actually worn outside. That you
feel you just to subconsciously feel so comfortable because you're like, no,
that's pretty clean.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah. Well, and in my brain, you know, he's ready
to go, they've got their rehearsal. I don't know. Maybe
it was meant to show that she's late. I don't know,
but yeah, every time everybody puts their freaking shoes on
the furniture in the show.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's strange. I did love the reveal of when you
get to the church and it's decorated beautifully that it
was Haley and Sylvia. Yeah, because first of all, Hailey's
obviously quite pregnant as we know, just that's good friending.
And then that Sylvia did that, it gave it just
(36:09):
was the perfect setup for the repair that you two have.
It's kind of this cool thing I was thinking about, Like,
I love I love that she invited herself to the
party because it's sort of like you both want a
relationship and it's just not lining up right, but you're
(36:30):
both continuing to show up and push the buttons until
you figure it out. Like no one dipped out, like
she could have just skipped down your left, but like
she forced herself back in and then it finally created
the right time for you guys to like really drop
it all, you know, have a heart to heart and
(36:50):
like bond, which was great because like I so want
that for a Brooke and for Sylvia.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah. Yeah, the level of humility that it required from
Sylvia in particular to be able to set aside all
of the things that she came in with, all the
ideas that she came in with about the wedding and
about their relationship and who Brooke was going to be
to her, that she was able to set all of
that down and just continue to show up for her
(37:18):
regardless of what her expectations were or desires. I love that. Again,
just like watching character growth, watching someone develop from who
they were when we met them, even in this short
amount of time, to see Sylvia grow like that. That
was really sweet seeing her in the church. And she
wasn't rubbing it in Brook's face. She wasn't like, if
(37:38):
only you had known that I was doing these nice
things for you this whole time. She didn't do any
of that. She was just there.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah. Well, and I think that might be part of
why the big fight between them services that moment, right,
because for Sylvia to say what she said is so awful. Yeah,
and I think that if that kind of outburst doesn't
cause self reflection and for you to, for any human
(38:08):
to do that, you've got to be able to say, Okay,
I've clearly lost the plot a little bit here. Yeah,
I'm being triggered by something or I'm being absolutely unhinged.
And I thought that the circle back for them with
Sylvia saying, I'm essentially saying I'm so stuck in the
past that I can't be in the present. I'm missing
(38:30):
my whole life. It's a big lesson, it's a big vulnerability,
and I think in an interesting way, each of those
women knows what that means and they both want to
move forward. Yeah, you know, Broke references it a little
bit with you know, the Lucas and Peyton of it
(38:52):
all earlier in the episode, and when you think about
how many years Brooke didn't let anyone in because she
didn't want to get hurt again, the circumstances are different,
but she knows what Sylvia is talking about. And in
a way, I think it had to be these two
women who could help each other kind of get to
(39:12):
the next phase of their lives, because in this instance,
Sylvia is helping Brook, you know, except that her best
friend is never going to move home and that's hard.
And you know, asterisk on that selks that you know
they were behind the scenes politics because at the time
we were told that our friends who played those characters
(39:35):
were invited back for this episode and turned it down,
and you know, all this time. Yeah, and I remember
even at the time hearing that, and like, you know,
our shooting schedules were so crazy and whatnot. And I
knew if I knew that wasn't true, I'd be so upset.
So I didn't ask Hillary until like a couple of
(39:55):
weeks after we filmed the wedding if that was true.
I was like, Hey, I just want to know. I
won't say anything, and you know, we didn't we didn't
talk about it, probably for years, but like even even then,
I was like, oh, I'm really sad if this isn't true.
I'd rather think they were going to come and then
were unavailable because of other things they're shooting. Yeah, then
(40:17):
think that the grown ups in the room are so
petty they're not even going to be invited. Yeah, And
like it's interesting that in a way we were processing
something on camera that we were processing off too, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And I think it's another example of brooks integrity and
her just high roading the hell out of the situation
because I mean, look at what was said right, Like
what she threw in Sylvia's face is the truth, So
it wasn't me Listen, the way she delivered the message
(40:49):
was kind of devoid of compassion, but she was speaking
to a behavioral choice. And what Sylvia did was cruel.
She attacked something that's out of Brooks control. There's nothing
actionable for Brooke to do there.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
It was a very very mean thing to do. So
I think her decorating the church was a nice gesture
in the right direction. I think where to me, where
I really saw grace was in how Brooke handled it.
That was the appropriate move for Sylvia to begin a repair,
and I think to see Brooke be able to accept it.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
That was where I saw the grace.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
In the scene, because she, to me, was the one
who really got really really wronged.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, that's a nice observation, Rob. I'm listening to you
talk thinking, God, I'm just so glad Rob is a dad.
It's really glad you're raising kids to have good men
in our corner that want to really analyze emotions and things.
Is like, that's so nice.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
I'm so glad that the camera doesn't pan over right
now and you see my three year old drinking mountain
dew and lighting fireworks off by himself. So let's just
stick with that narrative. You've got to keep the frame
right here. Okay. I appreciate it, and I liked I
liked the button on the end of it all with
Haley being asked to be the maid of honor.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yeah, yeah, so sweet.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
She's the one who showed up.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah. And it has been a really sort of special
amount of time, right, you get we've gotten all of
our season seven, we've gotten half of our season eight
to get to see Brooke and Haley's friendship. Not that
it wasn't there before. It's always been you know, since
since we became friends early. It's been a great relationship.
(42:41):
But I think for both of these women who've been
juggling a lot and going through a lot in these
last two years, let's call it to have a moment.
It sort of was like, Oh, it's the first moment
where they've really gotten to pause and talk about their
friendship because they've been so busy living it.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yeah, and it felt out fires Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, I really like they've had so much going on
and it was just it wasn't even a long scene.
But I loved that we got to have it, and
I like that we were up in that balcony kind
of removed from everything.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, you know that quote. I've been thinking about it
a lot lately. If they wanted to, they would have
you heard that one. Yes, sort of all over like
the Instagram therapy and stuff. But I love it because
it's true, right, because I will I am guilty of
giving people infinite benefits of the doubt and creating a
story as to why they weren't able to do the
(43:35):
thing or whatever, you know. And I like this because
it's like Haley wanted to and she did. Yeah, she
didn't talk about it. She just showed up for her friend.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Yeah, that's so awesome. What a terrific like act of
love is. Just like, I see you, buddy, I'm here
to make your day special. Didn't make big fan fair
about it, just quietly doing work.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
Yeah that's great. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's so nice. It is really nice.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
All right. We got a question here.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Hey, nickname Katy Perry. That's cute.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
Can we just pretend it's the real Katy Perry?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Please, let's pretend it's the real Katy Perry.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Okay, Joey take it away.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Okay. We learned in this episode that the Bachelor Bachelorette
parties are on December seventh, because of the T shirt
revealing the tour dates. Oh look at that little detail.
They almost that nugget. However, there are no Christmas decorations
and anyone's homes in anyone's homes or the stores or
the town. Was this an oversight or why was December
(44:47):
seventh chosen as the wedding date?
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Can I just tell you, Katy Perry, you know the
musical genius I kissed a girl all the other songs
we know and love. You pay such good attention to detail.
Just yes, besides your musical prowess, like you're a great viewer,
So thank you.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
I'm really impressed by this question. I didn't notice any
of that.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
The only thing I could think is was that an
actual tour shirt of Dave Navarro's Because if it was,
then it was just because that was the Oh wait, no,
but that band didn't go to Wilmington, right.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
No, definitely not because we had to make a.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
True Oh yeah, Tree Hill? What am I saying?
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah? Yeah, so they had to make that. And when
did this stuff air?
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Though?
Speaker 5 (45:31):
I guess this is after hiatus, so we would have
aired this in December for fans. Well, I don't know,
because it says up here, okay, when was the aired
January twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Weird, that just seems like an oversight.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We might have had to film this before our holiday break.
So yeah, I wonder I wonder if it was an
actual James Addiction shirt and maybe they just ironed Tree
over another city.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
I wonder if the art department was if we were
actually filming on December seventh, that like that was the
day they were making the T shirt and they were realized.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yes, it was like an a December seventh.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
I guess who knows. I don't know. We never did
any holiday anything on our show.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
No, we only did Thanksgiving and Halloween.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
That's right, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (46:19):
Christmas episodes are so much fun?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (46:23):
The only one who loves a Christmas episode?
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I feel like the reason we didn't is because the
decorations are so expensive and they have to go up
all over town and inside homes and outside homes and
across the street, like, you know, with the things that
I just think they wouldn't have spent the money for
an episode. It's like, that's why people make Christmas movies
because the entire movie, the decorations are up the whole time,
(46:49):
so it's worth the money.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
But we could have done a what do they call
it a bottle episode? A capsule episode, Yeah, where it's
just all in one place.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
And you know, yeah, you could have decorated one block
of Front Street and had us all at Nathan and
Haley's again or something.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, missed opportunity. We have a Valentine's one coming up apparently, though.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
That's kind of we do what we sure do. Oh,
and Jamie did.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Create that Christmas for Lydia when she died. He created
that little like Christmas tree Christmas in July.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Let's be honest, he half asked it.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
It was.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Five year old year old.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Honorable mention most likely too, what do we do want
to do? First?
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Dog on a skateboard? He was professional.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Skateboard Oh my goodness. Honestly, I would give my honorable
mention to all of our background actors in this episode,
because the parties wouldn't have worked if they weren't all
so great, from the frat boys to the people at
the Mechanical bull bar, everybody doing the wings, even the
(47:54):
lovely girl who played the bartender when I'm freaking out
about how I kissed someone because I'm engaged, and she goes, yeah,
you told me like a million times. Everybody was so good,
and you just can't shoot an episode that relies on
a crowd without a great crowd. So hats off to
all the people who helped make us look nuts this week.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, can anyone else noticed that the frat house was
Delta Beta dB. I was like, was that a joke?
Because frat boys are often douchebags?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Oh or is.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
It just because it's it's just not a real fraternity
and they just made it up paphazardly. But I was
curious to see the way they portrayed the guys because
if they were real dingises, I'd be like, oh, shanea
good one.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
But that's funny, funny.
Speaker 6 (48:42):
We should ask her da Vinci codes something that's not there.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
My honorable mention is just going to go to Shana,
the writer of the episode, because she just nailed it
and all the little details every character had their shining moment.
She wove in the drama and the comedy so masterfully.
It was a really really well written episode from top
to bottom.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
Yeah, should we spin a wheel?
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Let's do it spin.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Ooh. Most likely to order dessert before dinner, Rob, Yeah,
if we're going real life.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Robert Butler, Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
I have zero impulse control around food, So I'm going
to say, in real life, it's probably me.
Speaker 5 (49:27):
And what would your dessert of choice be, sir?
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Listen if it's a place that makes a legitimate surero
say no more. How about you. You're at a restaurant,
they go, hey, we have an amazing pastry chef. We
can make anything in the world immediately. What would you
like anything immediately?
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yep. Oh man, it's like a food genie, but you
only get one wish and it has to be dessert.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
So I had an answer, and then when you said
anything in the world immediately, a chocolate crepe popped into
my head. I change my answer to a creep.
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Okay, I really like pavlova.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Oh, Mavlova is good.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
You're up in Portland, do you go to Papa Hayden Ever? No, Okay,
there's a restaurant there unless it's close during COVID. It's
called Papa Hayden and they do unbelievable desserts and they
do this really great. They have like a baked Alaska.
They have pavlova.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Stay less.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Well, you'll go, You'll enjoy it. You'll go, you'll enjoy
get the pavlova.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
Well getting as usual, I managed to force food into
the episode, so I think that checks the last of
our boxes. Thanks for joining us, everyone.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Thanks everybody. We'll see you next week for season eight,
episode thirteen, The Other half of Me.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
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Speaker 3 (50:47):
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Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!