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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
People talk about rock bottom that when you hit rock
bottom is when you'll make a change. But there's a
corresponding place that I call cliff top. Right, you could
be too high, where you get so high that you realize.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Literally none of the stuff can make you happy.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Right after you you get you can get to the
end of the material world.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You get to the end of money, you get to
the end of sex. You know, you get to the
end of fame.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
You get you you you have so much, and you
get and then you, you like go off of a
cliff into the same kind of abyss that you'd be
scared of slipping into at rock bottom, right where life
loses all of its ability to sustain and please you,
(01:41):
and then the only thing that's left the same thing
at rock bottom. The only thing that's left at cliff
top is you have to You have to find what
you're actually looking for, and what what you're actually looking
for is you.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
You're looking for you.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
You're running around right when you When you like a
woman and you like being with a woman, is because
you like how you feel. You like what's happening inside
of you. When you have money, it's like, yeah, it's
cool to buy things, but it's not the money. You
like how you feel inside. It's unleashing a feeling inside.
(02:23):
And at rock bottom and at cliff top, what you
have to learn how to do is generate that feeling
without anything external. You want to you have to learn
how to like like you so much that you like
being alive so much that you you bring positive energy
(02:44):
that's not generated by stuff. Right because stuff is coming
and going, like people are coming and going. Everything you
have and everybody you love is going to rise and
fall in your life. The place that we have to
find is a spiritual place where we are good with us.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We trust us.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I trust myself, I trust God, and I trust life
that whatever happens, I'm gonna make happy out of it.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I don't need specific things to happen.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Passing the torch is important. How you do it is
up to you. I've never had a problem with anybody
younger than me because this generation now grew up listening
to my beasts on YouTube, so it's different from me.
So for the you know, although he's not young anymore,
(03:35):
For the little yachties I talked to from time to
time from Madlan Tokyo that I talked to even at
one point ten years ago, Kendrick, you know, I was
a young nigga. Cole was a young nigga. Drake was
a young nigger. Nipsey, Hussel, Rest and Peace mac Miller,
all the ones I kind of, you know, talk to
over time and you know they're doing that thing now.
I mean, I've always been a teachabook type person, so
(03:58):
I'm always gonna talk to them about something regardless of
give him some type of because because I truly believe
there's a difference between the elder and the old nigga,
and we got too many old niggas. We need elders.
We need elders to pass down whatever it is. Tough
love for any kind of love, because some of these
kids ain't never had no love of any kind. So
(04:19):
that's that's how I look at her. Passing the torch
is important. How you do it is up to you.
I never had a problem with anybody younger than me
because this generation now grew up listening to my beasts
on YouTube, so it's different from me. So for the
(04:41):
you know, although he's not young anymore. For the little
yachtis I talked to from time to time from mad
to Tokyo that I talked to even at one point
ten years ago, Kendrick, you know, I was a young nigga.
Cole was a young nigga. Drake was a young nigger.
Nipsey Hustle, rest in Peace, mac Miller, all the ones
I kind of you know, talked to.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Over time, and you know they're on that thing now.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
I mean, I've always been a teachabook type person, so
I'm always gonna talk to them about something, regardless of
some type of because because I truly believe there's a
difference between the eldery and the old nigga, and we
got too many old niggas.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We need elders.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
We need elders to pass down whatever it is. Tough
love for any kind of love because some of these
kids ain't never had no love of any kind.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So that's that's how I look at.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Comedy being I don't I don't want to censor it
almost you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
How do you?
Speaker 8 (05:33):
How do you?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
How do you walk that line?
Speaker 9 (05:35):
Here's still still to me, it's like, well, first of all,
is if you're offended by a joke, you're allowed to be.
That's why I keep telling people like I think there's
this idea that comedians are out here going.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You're not allowed to be offended by the joke.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Like however you.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
Feel, you feel like I don't know how you grew up,
Like maybe someone is really traumatic happened to you. And
if I'm joking about it, you know you feel all
those you know, horrendous feelings that you felt.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
As a kid. So you all have to feel whoever
you feel.
Speaker 9 (05:59):
If you only I'm making you uncomfortable to your face,
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 10 (06:03):
Joke around you anymore. I'll still say it around the world,
I'm not going to say it to you so like I.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Want you to laugh.
Speaker 9 (06:08):
But what I'm realizing now that like things are bigger
for me, is that the way that we grew up
specifically in New York. You probably haven't here in Miami,
maybe in Los Angeles, maybe in like San Francisco, maybe Chicago.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
But it's very unique.
Speaker 9 (06:26):
Most people did not grow up with a level of
comfort with another race or the station where you could
bust balls. People who have been in the military have
felt it because you you're protect your brother every single day,
so it doesn't matter if you're he's Asian and you're
fucking black.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like you got jokes to each other because there's so
much love, like I'm keeping you alive, you give me life.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
But we felt so much comfort growing up with it, but.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
We never even thought about it.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Like it wasn't until I got out of New York
and maybe went to college that I even knew people
got offended by.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Things, didn't.
Speaker 11 (06:59):
They just do the same thing to music, and none
of us said ship Prince t I, David, I told
you how stupid that wasn't y'all call me crazy? We
gave hip hop away, So what you're waiting for now?
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Hm?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We did a song. I don't know if you know this.
We did a song with rock him.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (07:23):
We had a song off of our one of our
heaviest metal records, and the song was so it was
a super song. This is a song like six minutes something.
It's like this Metallica style six minute song. And we
just placed in the middle where I was thinking of
doing a verse. Actually, they were saying like, you should
do a rap verse on this because that's the most
unexpected thing you could do. And my brain was like, well,
(07:45):
what can we do that be even more unexpected? And
we managed to reach out to rock him and he
drove because he doesn't fly, you know, he drove.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Out from New York all the way out to La
the verse.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Part.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Who's the best? Talk about talk about t about you?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
You wait way too fast, so you said, Rod.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Kim drove from New York.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I couldn't believe it either.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yo. That's let I'm taking a shot, even though you ain't.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Home from jail.
Speaker 13 (08:26):
In prison, yeah, in prison.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (08:30):
Don't take time for granted, and don't take it the
people you love, don't take them for granted. You can't.
And I'll tell you something f n because Jamaica prisons
is strange. It's like the gangster seen in Jamaica. Five
(08:50):
people will die here Kingston. But when you watch the news.
You only hear about the one person that died in
Montego Bay in a cheria. So you got to take
life seriously. The people you love. Got to spend it
with him. You know what My biggest shigett is and
(09:12):
my first son.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I had him.
Speaker 13 (09:15):
Who to the studio with You know when you get
that son, your first child is a son. So I'm
with him in the studio. I'm changing is changing his diapers.
I'm doing all of that. But what I regret the
most is not spending more time with him.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Who's the oldest little vibes.
Speaker 13 (09:33):
No Lika vibes. All right, But this is the good
thing about it. The liquor vibes gave me two grandchildren.
So now I have the opportunity, yes, giving me another chance, Yes,
second chances.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Man, God is the greatest.
Speaker 13 (09:49):
Bro. I believe in God. Bro when I was If
you watch a lot of my old interos, that's the
Wildford I know because you watch America.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'm like, yeah, so he knows what's up. I used
to say, bro, whatever x x X.
Speaker 13 (10:13):
Now I believe in Like my son, I didn't get
to raise him. He gave me two grandchildren. Yes, so
I can raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm like,
that's yeah, yeah, I'm like to my grandson, make sure
you get a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm not to my granddaughter if you ever two point zero.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
But seriously, though, it's like he gave me a new
lease on light to be able to because and this
is I'm going to tell you, I'm gonna be honest.
Before I got arrested, I never believe thank God as
a concept. Being in prison, and like I said, I
(11:09):
put the two thirty head on my Where is it
two thirty eight? Where is the tattoos?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't even know? Look, where is it? Two thirty eight?
Speaker 13 (11:18):
Let's start right chee right there? Right, yeah, yeah, don't
study Norman che.
Speaker 14 (11:27):
Hold on, hold on, got its nuts?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, hold on. When I said this, no, no disrespected.
Speaker 13 (11:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
When I'm gonna say.
Speaker 13 (11:51):
This, I knew that I was going to come out,
but at the time I needed extra energy because a
lot of people were depending on me, not just the
guys that I was arrested with, but my mother and
my father, my children, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember,
(12:13):
this is Jamaica, this is Wall Street, Ship, this is Jamaica.
So I had to put my faith in something other
than us. And that's when I got more spiritual, more
religious and started focusing. And that's when I tattooed the
(12:37):
thing on my face. Love God. I don't know if
he can see it.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
What's your.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
What man?
Speaker 13 (13:01):
But that's why I became more spiritual because I used
to or the church like most Jamaicans. Because Jamaicans have
the most churches for squirit capital. Really yeah, you know what,
you know what beats it the most bars. And I'm
not even joking, like literally bars beat not like where
(13:24):
you go to have drink, drink, rum, shamp whatever. The
most bar, yes, but but just by a slight because
think about this, we have the most churches per capital
in the world.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
The only thing that beats that, Wow, it's bars. That's
why you see.
Speaker 13 (13:43):
The the that's the world the places of nature of
Jamaica dispaces. So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying,
you're in the tourist country and you're enjoying yourself and
nobody knew. And on the other side, fifty three people
die in two days murder, So tell me so crazy
(14:06):
it is? Fifty three people die between Monday and between
Friday and Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
But when you are in Montego Bay, not.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And not the real Monthygo Bay.
Speaker 10 (14:20):
You're in the resort, the resort, right, the safe You're good, right.
Speaker 13 (14:24):
But when you go back to America and you go
on Google, you see that fifty three people die between
Friday and Sunday by murder.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's crazy, man. So tell me something.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Since you've been out, what have you seen change the
climate of Jamaica?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nothing? Just the love for me.
Speaker 13 (14:45):
But my thing is this, why are you shooting people
because you have no other option. You were in school
and you were you could paint very well. You could
draw jay Z and it looked like jay Z. But
because no one cared about that, and you lived in
(15:07):
flat boards, no opportunities, no opportunities.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So you just started to.
Speaker 13 (15:13):
Your gunman on your batman, and it feels good. You
know why it feels good because you're a man, and
man need get respect. Man need respect, and we need purpose.
So you found your purpose because you do it very well.
Run up and shooting them, is it right?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No?
Speaker 13 (15:36):
But all you had left was purpose. Found it with
your gun the same way we found it after the
gun with the microphone music with the microphone. Jordan's founded
with the basketball, but you don't punk. You want a
picture with Jordan's, pay me. That's why I have no
problem with Jordan's because I understand its mindset. Is it
(16:00):
wrong or right, that's for people to decide. But I
understand the mindset of the man because we will. I
grew up in the ghetto. I understand how it works.
Let me if you don't understand that, man, you were
naive Mellis in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know what I mean, Let's go skiing in window
or some trick.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Saying he would have I would have?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Would I would would? I'm like, man, fuck that. But
you know what this is one man percent something. I'm
gonna be honest with you. Bro, you really deserve your flowers, man,
not just here but in real life.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
No, facts, I didn't put my work in, bro, you
I didn't put my work.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And I ain't finished. You heard me. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I got a lot move you know what I'm saying
to contribute, man to the culture. Man, So you know
I'm just glad man, and I'm free. You know that
I got another shot at it. Man, And and and yeah, man,
I'm I'm a rep man' a rep man for the
real man.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So let me ask you. Bird Man was not sleep
on stage?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, they said he was reading something.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, not all right? So you come over.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You did Arena days, you know when, right, and they
had a set list tape, you know, to the floor
and and and the h the list of songs, and
you know you're looking at you know, you know what
I'm saying. He's reading, seeing what's coming up next. He
just gotta call from a band he got from a
(17:35):
bad angle. And then on some you know, just you
know work, you know, some wipe me down. You know
it's just on some you know about work. But it
looks funny. But no, round wasn't sleep, bro, you know
what I'm saying, Like rown, they never did a whole drug.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah man, you know what I'm saying. He used to
be on us.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I had seen ship on the internet about him being
on fitt No, and we had a good laugh about it,
like we josed off here. You know what I'm saying.
I sure stuff him like we josed off each other.
But yeah, now he was reading the song list.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Okay, because I'm gonna be honest with you. It looked
like it was finally your time to be the big homies.
It looked like like little things because it looked like
Little Man was like, let's go, Nigga, look at it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And this ain't me just trying to clean it up.
I'm just being one hundred percent real with it.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
He was reading the song list, man, because I have
to gize down there at times because the show probably
an hour damn the two hours for real, you know
what I'm saying. We got the first Cash Money set,
Bam and Wayne come out, then Bam and Wayne bring
us back out, you know, for the Hot Boys set,
you know what I mean. So it's you know what
I'm saying, by the time, probably like a two hour set,
(19:01):
you know what i mean. So you know it's it's
yeah man, like like and motherfucker just be trying to
make sure I know what's coming up next, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So I gotta be on point, and I think you yeah,
I know, and if you like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, when you look at it, and he got a teleprompter, right,
just the teleprompter, but then you got the list.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
You know what I'm saying, tape to the floor.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
So it's like five sheets with all the song with
probably about ten songs on each, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
She and you know, Roun just got caught up reading the.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
List, bro, and it's just like the probably with some ship,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
So nah, but it's.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
All great though, man about nothing. It's like like like,
you know, he ain't tripping you, like, oh, press is
good press tripping the arenas you're selling out.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, and we're gonna keep getting this bag. And it
is what it is. Long as you are to reach me,
long as y'all.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
That's that's as long as I underrated five movie man
that reached me.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Ship.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
I don't know about underrated that moment. I'm a little
bit upset. I should have charged mo.
Speaker 15 (20:23):
Yeah, I was on fire right around that time.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
I should have changed a little more. But then with
Adam Sadler Chris.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Rock, Yeah, that was a great and because rentals.
Speaker 15 (20:35):
Let me tell you cigarette, let me tell you how
how I found out how far he was, how you
sweat he had so my granny at this time that
mind you, this was two thousand and four country grammar
than did Nellyville just coming out with Sweatsuit the double
album like I'm on fire.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
I'm like, this is.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Fire, Grannie. Granny is still.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
That's nice, not at all.
Speaker 15 (21:05):
I'm still Cornell, like I'm probably always be.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
But she was like, that's nice, Cornell. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
I was like, Granny, I'm doing the Gramms.
Speaker 15 (21:12):
Yeah, I saw you on the Grammars. Baby, you look good.
I just had to tell you that.
Speaker 14 (21:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (21:18):
You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, I saw the
football thing when you ran out.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah, I was good, you look good.
Speaker 15 (21:24):
I was like, okay, you know you can't get no rounds.
I'm like, shit, okay, So doing the I heard you
doing it. We're sitting around and she's like, I heard
you doing the movie. I was like, yeah, Granny, I'm
doing a movie.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
It's a football movie.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Boy.
Speaker 15 (21:37):
I'm explaining to her, good baby, do I hope you
have fun? And I don't know if my auntie somebody
said tell her who all tell her who in the movie.
And I'm not thinking nothing of it. I'm not thinking
nothing of it. My granny is like seventy year old
Black Saint Louis Lady, not thinking nothing of it.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
I know who she married. My granddaddy was a mother.
Speaker 15 (22:04):
Oh god, you know what I'm saying, Like straight like that,
and I'm like, okay, cool, I said, yeah, Adams saying that.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I know she granny don't know none of these people.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (22:13):
I'm like, Adam said, look, you know Chris Rock because
she you know. I was like, yeah, Adam saying, look
Chris Rock, Bird Renalds who.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Bird Renals? Rentals?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Who that why boy five?
Speaker 15 (22:31):
I said, Yo, here, your granny fan is the most
disgusting ship.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You know what I mean? Like you like she like
b Renals?
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Well, yes, you in the movie?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
What's so?
Speaker 8 (22:53):
What you doing?
Speaker 16 (22:53):
Man?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Don't get.
Speaker 15 (22:59):
So it was Grammy for all that shit at this
time twenty two million record, It doesn't even matter.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
She ain't. That's good baby, Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 15 (23:12):
We had a whole conversation for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
We ain't never talked fifteen.
Speaker 15 (23:16):
Minutes about my job, like probably altogether.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You know what I'm saying. I tell her what's that?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Boy?
Speaker 8 (23:23):
She wanted to know burn random, why y'all feeling this movie? Yeah?
So tell me about what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You do it?
Speaker 15 (23:30):
I say, yeah, I'm playing a running back. You didn't
play you was a receiver. He's like, no, I'm just
playing it in the movie. You know what I'm saying,
because you know, she know about what I was doing
at She was like, now you play receiver. You don't
play running back. No, Grannie, I'm playing it in the movie.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
You know what I mean? Okay, you little That's that's
why I started living.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Was small as ship.
Speaker 15 (23:52):
No no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah. Hell y'all.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
You be on set.
Speaker 15 (23:59):
You got all these great people, don't set, and these
telling stories sitting in the chair, and then your man
burd Renal.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Sits back like this and goes everybody shut them. Ain't
even filming. He's stopping the whole movie.
Speaker 15 (24:12):
Everybody want to hear this story because you don't know
what year this is.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
You just don't.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You don't have people.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
You don't know if it's finna be the.
Speaker 15 (24:23):
Hustle magazine, the Playboy magazine, if it's gonna be blond brutete.
You don't know if it's gonna be a dignitary or politician.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But you do not know.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
He's got him all and he sits back like this
and everybody's shut up. Adam Sander telling jokes. Everybody cracking up.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Chris Rocks is telling jokes. We got like nine.
Speaker 15 (24:42):
Comedians, you know how they start firing at each other
and going around.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
So it's hilarious.
Speaker 15 (24:48):
And Burt's just you know, I remember ship shut down
and man, it was awesome. He told us some stories
some ship I can't really say right here.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
He at Family Sniper.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He was like, you know, many man, because I mean again,
you see how elderly black lady spoke up about him, so.
Speaker 15 (25:19):
Imagine what you know what I mean like, I probably yeah,
he probably top three. You probably top three sniper of
all time.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
No, da.
Speaker 15 (25:32):
Gotta be top three sniper of all time all time.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
We had Kanye on this, yeah, I saw, and we.
Speaker 16 (25:41):
Had two different we had two different different episodes.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yes, and this is.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
This is your according to your words as you're saying,
this is like your mentor somebody that you looked up to,
somebody that puts you on. We made a lot of
great music together and we came we came up together, right.
Sometimes does it disturb you, Oh how did you feel?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Absolutely disturbs me. Some of the things he.
Speaker 17 (26:09):
Says, and and I'm not as disturbed for me because
what he said about me, I don't care. I'm like,
obviously it was a good thing for him and for
me that he signed me. I wasn't worried about the
literal words.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That he said.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I didn't take it personally.
Speaker 17 (26:25):
But I just feel like a lot of times he
seems to be going through ship and and every once
in a while we'll get, you know, these flurries of
outbursts from him, and it's sad.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Man. I don't love seeing it.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Man, I don't love seeing it for him because.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know him, like, yeah, like these people.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
To most people, and I don't want to stay on
this I'll get you know, yeah, well most people, it's entertainment, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 17 (26:52):
It's like, but that's your that's your brother, and it
is outrageous, and sometimes it's funny, like and some of
my friends will like, you know, text me hear what
he said. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, but like part of
it's sad, you know, it's sad seeing it. And I
still look at him as one of the most important
artists that we've ever.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Had, and I still like some of his music is just.
Speaker 17 (27:15):
Like truly incredible, groundbreaking, world changing and still holds up
now and.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I just feel like it's a shame.
Speaker 17 (27:25):
That that it gets clouded by all the other shit.
Speaker 16 (27:31):
God bless man, because to go more to the musical
side of it, like, yeah, that journey that when you
guys connected in the beginning, But was that like how so.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
What stage of his career?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
And for you, like what was that whole?
Speaker 17 (27:45):
It was good music, correct, Yeah, So it didn't even
exist good music.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
It didn't exist when we met. So I'm a new artist.
Speaker 17 (27:52):
I'm, like I said, working by day as a management
consultant in New York. One of my roommates I went
to college with his name is Devo, and Devo had
a cousin from Chicago that was about to move to
the area and his name was Kanye West.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
So Devo he's not known.
Speaker 17 (28:11):
Neither no, but he had just started working Jay and
Dame and all of them at Rockefeller and.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
He had just.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Him and just Blade basically did the whole blueprint.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
That's right, right.
Speaker 17 (28:24):
So when I met Kanye was May of two thousand
or like late spring or early summer in two thousand and one,
And I remember it because it was at Jimmy's Uptown,
and I recorded that show at Jimmy's Uptown in Harlem.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, Jimmy's Uptown.
Speaker 17 (28:40):
Yeah, We're gonna stab somebody, So I'm doing a show
there and we recorded it and we actually put out
a live record to my fans of that recording. So
that's why I knew when I met him was because
it was that day that we recorded the show, and
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my roommates like, you gotta meet my cousin. He just
moved to New York and he's producing for a Rockefeller
and we met and then we started working together a
few months later. He was working on his demo and
he was trying to get signed as a rapper.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But everybody was like.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yeah, you keeping serious?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Yeah, because not for a second, because Farrell always downplays
when when like when me and Farrell, Farrell was cocky
as ship, even as a person that was coming up
was Kanye Kky.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah he was cocky.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah cool, is Susan right.
Speaker 17 (29:37):
He's not the same as he was back then, but
he was.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
He's always like had a shrunk.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
He was the ship.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, was like he's so humble now I'm like, no, no, no,
I Remember but when.
Speaker 16 (29:48):
The guy told you my cousin, did you already know
about his production?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No, it wasn't out yet.
Speaker 17 (29:53):
So the Bluebird came out nine eleven, remember nine eleven,
on the day of nine eleven.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
And that's that's yeah, he's debut to product.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
That was his first big moment as a producer.
Speaker 17 (30:03):
So yeah, Izzo, which was a single before the album
came out, and then he had a few cuts on
the album and then Blaze did the other side. So
it was just like both of them were the album basically,
So that soul sample sound was the whole blueprint sound
and yay, and just Blaze did the whole thing basically.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And he's telling you this.
Speaker 18 (30:23):
And you believe him, Like I'm like, let's meet him,
like at this point, like I'm trying to get signed too,
and I'm like, let's try it.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
You know, like I don't know him, but we'll see.
Speaker 17 (30:34):
And you never know what hip hop producers because some
aren't musical enough because they're more like bea driven and
you know, I'm an R and B artist, some more soulful.
So I want somebody that still has some musical underpinnings.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
And the good thing about.
Speaker 17 (30:47):
Yay was he He was using all the soul samples
and the music was very soulful. So it was like
the perfect blend of soul and hip hop for us
to work together. So we start working together, like late
two thousand and one, early two thousand him too. He
gets in an accident, you bet, before that, before the accident,
(31:07):
and I think he was signed by the time he
had the accident, but damning him. Our impression was they
signed him just so they could keep him in house
for beef. Yes, not because they really thought he was
going to be successful.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
We saw artists who were so much you me Dancie
like the crew.
Speaker 17 (31:28):
So we got this, yeah, the whole crew. Yeah, so
we and I started to get to know them later.
But you know, Devo was working with him, my roommate.
He was like basically running his production company, and so,
you know, Kanye really believe in himself as a solo artist,
and a lot of his team did, but I felt
and a lot of us felt like Rockefeller didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So he gets an accident.
Speaker 16 (31:51):
Can I tell you real quick to add to the story,
I was working for Deaf Jam at the time, and
they weren't.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Pushing him as an artist.
Speaker 16 (31:58):
He went and sent he got the list of all
the street teams, sent the white labels of his singles hustling,
and started a conference call with himself and all the
street teams. So, yo, we're pushing this like himself. Yes,
outside of the infrastructure of the label.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
He was so entrepreneurial. He put out his own mixtape.
Speaker 16 (32:17):
And.
Speaker 17 (32:19):
He got an accident and made Through the Wire. And
then he started just camping because he got an accident
in La So he started just camping out at the
W and Westwood in La Yeah. And so I would
go out there from New York whenever I had time
and we would work on college dropout with him, and
I wrote used to Love You out there and some
(32:39):
of my.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Songs Forget Lifted.
Speaker 17 (32:41):
And that's when I started to see after the accident
this new sense of like this man is on a mission.
And it started with Through the Wire. But then I
heard Jesus Walks and all these other records. I'm like, Yo,
this is gonna be. And I played piano on Lauren
Hill's Miseducation So What What What too?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
So you put my was on the whole.
Speaker 17 (33:03):
I played piano and everything is everything on Lauren Hill's album.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
And I said to ya when I was listening to Jesus.
Speaker 17 (33:09):
Walks, I was like, I feel like I was part
of one album that changed the world in ninety eight
and this is album is about to do the same
thing in two thousand and four.
Speaker 18 (33:18):
And you got credit for Laurence Hill. Yeah, I feel
like John Stevens. Yeah, I was legend Stevens.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, you know that's wild man, that's yea, because how
did you go through the red Rip? Let's just finish
this right.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
So anyway, that time was crazy because we're all out
in la We're meeting up with him.
Speaker 17 (33:39):
He's recovering from the accident, but he's got this new
sense of purpose and uh, he's making the best music
of his life up to that point. And it just
felt like the momentum was was there and it was
going to be a big, special album and it was
sure was Yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
How about the Grammy family, Like, yeah, you had whole
industry shook up every Monday at one point or we.
Speaker 17 (34:03):
Were doing the Good Fridays Friday.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
My bad, I said, Monday that lets you know how
much I'll be drinking. Like was that something that y'all
all got together and said, we're gonna look up the industry.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I think sometimes yea, he just gets in.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
That like creative like uh.
Speaker 17 (34:23):
Like that just extra excitement and he's ready to like
he's just got all these ideas and he just wants
to get him out and he's like, that's just good Fridays.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
That was the time.
Speaker 17 (34:32):
He's like, everybody at the studio needs to wear a
suit and tie, and so everybody was dressing like there
was in Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
At the studio.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
They called it the rose Era. It was like a
whole thing. So he sometimes he's just be on.
Speaker 17 (34:44):
One and he's like that's his thing at that time,
and that's what he be on.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
That's yeah, goddamn it, I wish you auld good into
the studio. Well a goddamn reservoir dog. Jesus.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
He called it the Rosewood Era.
Speaker 16 (35:03):
So then you get so so now getting into your
project transitioning from his.
Speaker 17 (35:08):
Yeah, So it was all happening at the same time though.
So we were working on like used to Love You
and some of the joints from Get Lifted during the
same time that we're working on College Drop at.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
The same time.
Speaker 17 (35:20):
It was all happened at the same time, we're both
trying to get I was trying to get signed after
he had already gotten signed to Rockefeller, and I eventually
signed to.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Good Music and my roommate was.
Speaker 17 (35:31):
Running the label for him, so I was basically signed
to my roommate's.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Label with his cousin.
Speaker 17 (35:37):
And eventually, after College Dropout came out, that was when
the industry really started to be like okay for the
whole crew. So before that, we took the same music
to all the labels and they turned us down or
they gave us a low offer. And when College Dropout
came out, everybody changed their tune.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
We had a bidding war and with Columbia.
Speaker 10 (36:01):
And who was the crew at the time, You Consequence.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
GLC, don ce I mean those.
Speaker 17 (36:07):
Are the artists, Me, Consequence GLC and yay, that was
those were the artists. But then don Cee John Monopoly.
The whole crew was. You know, we were touring together,
we're opening for us, sure together?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Uh that was the crew?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Crazy man? Did you ever think?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Because yeah, I was like almost like the modern day
Wu Tang clan right like like but not exactly okay,
but with different like you know, you had to push
your t you had consequence.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, you had.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
You, you had kick cutting Sean Big Sean like during.
Speaker 17 (36:41):
That during that Good Friday's time, that was a like
latt Roster was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'm I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
As as an industry person, we were scared of that Friday.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You did not like it, being.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
Like not gonna say I'm not making music no more.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
So.
Speaker 17 (36:55):
Yeah, the records like Click and some of those records
were insane.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, we were mad at y'all. We were like, why
why did y'all.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Want to just blogging down?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, it was wold.
Speaker 17 (37:06):
And then right around that time, right after that time,
Jay and Kanye start working on Watching the Throne, like
probably this is the one, this is the.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Main Washington, Yeah, the only one.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (37:20):
So this is around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. He's uh,
he's up in the Mercer. They talk about the song
the Mercer Hotel in New York and I'll tell.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You something about car Let's let you know.
Speaker 17 (37:32):
I So they were literally they were literally in the
Mercer Hotel and he just brought his studio equipment in
there and was making Watch the Throne with Jay and
then we made Love in the Future my album that
came out in twenty thirteen in that same hotel, and
so all of me was on that. I didn't do
that one with Yay, but Yay produced the whole like
(37:55):
executive produced the whole album. And that was another crazy time.
So has been these times when yeah, he's really on,
like a creative tear and uh producing some of the
best music of that era.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
It was incredible.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Rock him or care rest one.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I can pick even one either.
Speaker 10 (38:21):
If you pick one, we're not drinking. But if you
say both of the damn.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Drink got it?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Don't do it on purpose?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you do a smaller shot. Yeah yeah, yeah,
get it. Glad what you're doing, don't get it drinking,
don't get it.
Speaker 16 (38:42):
Drink a small shot for yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
It must be strong.
Speaker 16 (38:48):
I got tupac are easy.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Damn. Both of them? Was my guy? Both Okay? Oh, no,
where you at what you're doing?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Son, he's drinking for him.
Speaker 10 (39:02):
He's about just need a drinker, Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I respecting you. You know what. I love to drink.
You know what I said, you know what, I'm gonna
join him. Y'all asked some crazy you got to stand.
You understand easy easy roof Easy came with ruthless. Here
you got easy came with changed the game, easy, changed again,
pocket changes. You can't you know what I mean? So
I got to get easiest props.
Speaker 16 (39:23):
Yes, yeah, rap Radar, Joe Bunden Podcast, rap Radar or
the Joe Bump Park, both of them.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
IM messing with both. I messed with anybody. You can't
leave You can't leave me down in the mountaine, both
of all of them. Is you're not great. I forgot
to say rap Radar to hated on you. No, you know,
take your.
Speaker 16 (39:46):
Shots right off a crazy joints major figures to state products.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
With both Philly Baby both y'all play. I fell him up,
fell him up.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I'm gonna be one up on this.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Are you taking this time? I forgot?
Speaker 10 (40:09):
Okay, you got this one?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Okay, my bad.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I don't even glasses now, both everything.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I like both of them, though, I'm gonna say I ain't.
I ain't everybody we're seeing you were watching you?
Speaker 16 (40:27):
He said, Okay, Okay, jay Z or Big Daddy came.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
I don't know, you look like you have three Yes.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
All right, so listen, I'm gonna just tell his story.
Big Daddy Kane was mad at me one day. Big
Daddy can listen a legend. He coming through the airport. Right,
it's early in the morning. We're in La So we
were get on this donkey doing this day, said Gil
were raking some tea. Cain got a mask on. He
walking down all the time. I go on, fan move,
(41:02):
came what's up? Like I draw it on him? He
was not trying to be noticed. He like Gil just
told him. So he like, I'm like, King, what's up? Ship?
Come on, Gil, come in this King, because you know
Gil said, I'm the biggest back in the Day groupie
of all rappers. I'm just this. I love all back
in the day for no reason. That's the ship to me.
So I'm like, damn King, what's up? So your badyies
(41:24):
will go ahead drink again? Kinge and came in.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
So you King, I'm going with both were both, but
he gave us a King story.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
On a cane story. Man Carrie's pissed.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Bruce Lee Royd, where'd you go with Buce Lee?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Listen you listen. I killed that. No, no, no, no,
that that that I just made this one up. I
gotta I gotta pick one on this one. And I'm
telling you why I'm picking one. Do you know Bruce
Lee Roy told me that I'm Bruce Lee Roy Jones.
I see it.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
I see that, Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
He still looked at gud To.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
He's a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
He's a bad boy again. This girl still popping.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
He's a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I had to. I'm sorry, I had to Bruce Lee.
Worry would have picked by. I don't got nothing to
do with that.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
He was part of mine.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean, that's a good Pety Cracker, meek Mill, both
of them. Philly drink up, drink Kelly here. I love
Philly though he can't do that.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
Biggie a big L.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Big L was big. It was the beast. I'm gonna
say this. Big L was better than a lot of
in New York.
Speaker 10 (42:39):
If you would have ended up signing with the Rock
which y'all.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Y'all go ahead the story. Drink, drink again. Both.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
When I think you're gonna say one, he's like no, but.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
He was a barbarian man. If he didn't go, it
was over. Let me get my drinking. They just drunk
a bottle, messing with me. Damn Ron.
Speaker 10 (42:58):
I'm sorry, black thought or no black thought or nas
I like this.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
That's a good one, and that's I'm going with both.
Come on, I think I will.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
But no, man, they're both barbarians. They are.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
You got the right. I'm just gonna be drinking. I
just just start going like that.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Oh I forgot you. I said both. Now I think
you truly believes in both black thoughts and animal and
no animal now saying all.
Speaker 16 (43:34):
Even Missy, just let me just pour up already.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
They both legends, man, got he's a legend. Missy's a legend.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
You get me now?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
You can handle it? All right, y'all, y'all coming with
joints this too, like combat jacker text on rest in peace,
Rest in peace, Rest in peace, to listen, rest in peace?
Speaker 7 (44:06):
On back jack both Yes, and you know and shout.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Out to my man tags. Yeah both y'all. Y'all done.
Y'all shouldn't have done this. Yeah that ship. Yeah, look
it's chess burd. It's chess burden.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I ain't gonna lie that t those look hot, okay,
Sonny red Sonny, I got to man, I gotta be real.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
You always a little loozy or a little Dirk both
of them.
Speaker 10 (44:38):
Should I just.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Should we just say how many we got? We just
say both?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Come on, y'all. The last one he's going to fix.
Speaker 16 (44:47):
I got a point shot love love, I'll.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Do it all right, Geno's or Pats cheat the I'm
gonna say something right, Okay, in the hood, we never
ate them because they don't chop these stuff up like
seven joints in the hood. So you want me to
change twitch it up?
Speaker 8 (45:13):
Food?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Let me say this all right, let me say let
me say the names.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Shout out the ones that you eat.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Let me say the names, and I guess switches. Yeah,
taste cheesecakes, cheese steaks, and you say what food? Food chases? No,
I was going to change it up, No I got.
I'm gonna say, taste cheesesteak food food, Uh chases, escabibbles,
(45:46):
pretty girls cook, country cooking. I'm missing somebody juice by
be what's what's the name with the glasses, the cooking,
the dj bou joint. Oh, she's gonna kill me. Mm hmm.
(46:09):
What you're talking about? Every Yeah, everybody peeling all of them.
So y'all gotta drink it all.
Speaker 10 (46:19):
He said both times three, So I'm gonna give you
one more.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
So food chases or Bees food truck.
Speaker 10 (46:24):
Yeah, I got drinking.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Both take another one. Got that the one time I
wish I was drinking. I'm gonna say, keep.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Boom boom age Mamajuana.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
And Kings and queens, Kings and queens, Kings and queens too,
was gonna make the list. Scobber, Yeah, they Hollywood, but
they do these things too. But taste teeste. Yeah, they
got my picture in the wall. That's why your to
throw its.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
I'm telling you know, I'm gonna at me.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, okay, y'all, but fat boys nothing what you got?
Speaker 16 (47:04):
Fat boys times nobody?
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Fat boys or beastie boys both?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Come on, man, lay back.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I love about opinion.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Many you got.
Speaker 18 (47:14):
I love him, everybody love.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Everybody you know supposed to be broke. Go ahead, damn man,
I mean to do this.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Man, Rocky three or Creed three, Creed.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, Michael, you know Michael be Joe and that's my
guy the show Rocky. He inspired us all.
Speaker 16 (47:36):
Jesus ran this is your speech for for both. Y'all
got to stay here and be drunk. That Chasey chasing
Scarface or ice Cube, both.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
Legends I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Say both y'all, you give me nothing. I ain't give me.
Speaker 16 (48:05):
Any stories with these people though. Ice Cube y'all interviewed ice.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
C You know what, let me tell you somebody ice
Cube cubes a hater, and I'm gonna tell you why.
I cues all right, cbe hated on me. So the
Big Three comes, So we go to playing the Big
Three every year. Gil will get the m v P.
So We're in the locker room and we're getting ready.
I'm like, yea, we're gonna go there. We gonna kill him.
Cue we got him this time. He said, Wallow, this
is what I need you to do.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
He said, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Just come here, man, listen, listen. He's trying to get
out of it. He's trying to make sure somebody wants
Somenny ready throw up so Cube. So we're in the
locker room, were all getting ready for the game to
stand third. I said, listen, man, we're gonna do this.
I'm starting this that day. He said, wollow, this is
what you're gonna do. Gil, do you wanna do this?
He telling anybody what to.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Do this this cue.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Anthony Edward was on the team.
Speaker 16 (48:51):
Me.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
I mean Anthony Anderson. Uh uh me, Gil, it was
a bunch of efforts. But what ever, he said, Wallow,
and you tell everybody to do some Wallow. This is
what I needs you to do. I need you to
just sit on the bench and just chill and hype
the team up here, because I ain't gonna lie. Wallow.
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You know I got I got four points in that game.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I'm four points.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
A little bit riding the culture. I realized that you
might be trash a little bit, like a little bit
like they said, you ain't see my joint. You ain't
see that. Dude slammed. He't get that. Got to show them, no, no, no,
it's a lot of people that be hating on me.
Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant hated on my game name Lillard Stack,
(49:37):
all them dudes, Matt Boring, I Cook, Mark Burns one time.
You ain't you ain't see what I did to donavand Mitchell.
You ain't see me working out of I cook. I
barbed you give him, but go ahead next.
Speaker 10 (49:47):
Like oh man Nipsy or young Dolf rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Everybody. Okay, y'all, y'all, just y'all nothing brow, go ahead
and y'all man, have work bad night man with me. Yeah, no,
you're enjoying this too. That's clearly I'm sorry. Man, you
got sorry, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
You'll drink y'all lucky man, you.
Speaker 10 (50:10):
Didn't take your drink.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
We did, just took a drink. He should have since
your son man Kodaker pouch heisty both.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Forget it.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Then my nepts, bro.
Speaker 10 (50:24):
I gotta I gotta get work couple that ship.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Then my nepts though, Yes you did, yes you did.
Last time I see him, he beat me for a
thousand dollars. Man, clean me out.
Speaker 16 (50:41):
I got your next one ready because we was back
see you already, ug k back on out cast.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I got a pocket full of stone.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Both.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
It's beginning to look a lot like follow my every
step take not yeah, both you know my hip hop
and story. Why is ya asking me this ship? Because
because we're trying get them drunk, they're gonna be I'm sorry, Rod,
Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock.
Speaker 16 (51:07):
Oh wait, wait, hold on, hold we not that yes,
Sunny Wait a minute, no, no, no, no, that's the last one.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Y'all got to drink that ship.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Today.
Speaker 16 (51:16):
Joint Okay, okay, okay, my man, my man, making sure
I'm not alone in this, y'all.
Speaker 15 (51:23):
Every time you got relationship with what, you got a relationship.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
With the Listen, listen, listen. I'm gonna say this. He left.
Dave gave me a million dollars worth of game. One
time was he spoke with cigarettes. I'm in the dressing
room with Dave, right, me and Gil we in there.
I'm telling we I'm talking about were tripping. I'm we're
(51:51):
talking about all time. Told Gil Gil like, Daved like, Gil,
you got a hell of a game. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 19 (51:55):
That and one he called Gillah, I see you know,
I see this that news He said, all right, whatever,
but whatever Gi the white ship powder man.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
But whatever they tell you, the case may be that
white Dave said, Dave said, Dave said, listen, Dave did listen.
Dave said, Wow, I was trying to figure it out.
I had all this money they kept paying me for
for shows and all this. I can't. I can't, I
can't make it happen. And I kept looking for something,
and that's how he came up with Dave Chapelle. He
(52:25):
read a fortune cookie that said everything you need you
already got in your kitchen the best meal. He said,
something like the best meal you'll ever cooking. All the
greedients is already in kitchen. And he just starts shooting
David The Chappelle Show because he was like, I already
had the people I needed right there. I keep looking
for all this other ship, but my guys that I
deal with is already actually Larry, that's a piece of
Charlie Murphy, the whole team, but both of them. Because
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I love Pooky already.
Speaker 16 (52:49):
I thought we drank that one already before that.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Man, Yeah, Pooky was a legend.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
That was a great story though. I love it like that.
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 16 (52:59):
Oh d B.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
A is marquee, Rest in peace to two legends, Rest
in peace both. I'm talking about one thing about O.
D B. When he came out man first of all
legendary songs, Nobody beats the Biz and the Vapors was classic.
Can you feel it? No Savior?
Speaker 4 (53:15):
And this is this season for catching.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
The vapors business. He was that guy the game Biz
didn't and O d B didn't give um. You know
what I'm saying. When that, when that, when that Brooklyn
Zoo came out, Brooklyn, that tape he got the he
got the welfare idea on the it was just legendary.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Both all we knew it was both.
Speaker 10 (53:34):
We just want you to explain some stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
N w A or public.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
I mean that I would listen.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna take you from real ship.
There's no bullshit. I'm at I met this. Uh this
a city of Angels. Everybody in there, all the CEO no, no, no, no,
I think it's called City Angels. Then't give him some
of the leff. Listen, look there the dopest hip hop
(54:04):
ship ever happened to because like like y'all, bet I
mentioned DJ Premier because'm beefing him. I' gonna tell you
about that ship. I'm gonna tell you why nobody. I'm
gonna tell you why he did some ship. Listen, got
premieres back, so so listen, hold on, hold up. So
we enjoyed, right, So they give it Leo and everybody
in there. So I'm sitting there, I'm like this, I
got to shoot on chilling. I look over to go
(54:27):
Chuck d chuck. He did one of these jonts. I
was done this this chuck this uncle chuck this public
nmy number one. Did you have a Pittsburgh hat? No?
He I think he had some geens. You know, he
keeping jeens with some levis. But I don't know. I'm
just like, oh ship, this dude know who I am.
It was just a legendary moment for both.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Now I felt the same. He tweeted about dreams. I
framed it.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
You're not legendary. That is like these the younger kids
might like, man, they tripping out. This dude, he spoke
truth to power. He a legend in n w A.
I figured out what he's doing. He said, I'm gonna
make sure Sonny never drink again. I'm this is this,
this is gonna be sunny real.
Speaker 7 (55:13):
Put it too much in there, SCHOOLI d or Icy,
let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Listen, Ice T said, listen, listen, listen, listen to you
know school, he said, looking at my goose Jesus. About
that time, he said, but but, but but nothing is
like Saturday night. It was a Saturday night. I was
feeling kind of sporty, went to the ball. But I
said this is what I said, just what I said.
(55:42):
I said, I said this and this was this was
so crazy. I said, speed of life fast. It's like
walking bedfoot over broken glass. It's like jumping rope on
a raising blade. All lightning, quick decisions are made. Lifestyle.
Ice was so cold. Right when I was young. I
(56:02):
wanted to be Ice. I used to I used to
ripe ice in the mirror, like, damn this boy Ice.
And then when he killed a new Jack hustler, new Jack,
new Jack, new Jack hustler. And then when he said,
I gotta put hair none a bitch WITHO and I
got a Twitter as big as a TV set, and
it's over there. Hey, the one I want to get
(56:23):
but Joe, but maybe not. She might not like me. No,
no sweat to a vet. I get assisted though word
she said, I.
Speaker 20 (56:29):
Gotta said, he said, he said, he said, I gotta said.
He said, I gotta make who rocks in fact gold lak,
who like the people that.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Want to kitchen sink. I gotta put hair putting none ofife.
He was cold. He was cool, and then school he
was just cold.
Speaker 10 (56:52):
Both and you know there was both real stories too.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
No cozy Robin okay, Oh ship millions sparks. Oh she
know both Philly bro Philly. That a loaded question tells
of a hustler. He's miss hustle. So you managed going
for them, that's right, Okay, God damn it. Take a shot.
Then sparks a young gun. They was killing that John
(57:24):
moving out and strivel memories of them Cassidy or young
Chris both Philly. Damn listen this this, this makes this
a clip by itself. Yes, we got the dress. This
is Drake Champs at his highest drunk. You ready now this? No,
this is this is the one one more I do this?
Speaker 7 (57:46):
Oh yeah, Willim Smith or Kevin Hark, He's gonna say
both regardless.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Both. Okay, that's easy, man.
Speaker 7 (57:56):
That's the last one that you can get back to the interview.
Loyalty or respect. We got a drink, though, relaxed, chill,
everybody drink. Let's stay true to this game that Sony.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
Letna get you how to drinking games, Sonny. Yeah, I
know what you're trying to do. Cheers. Listen, he said,
I love this last one. Okay, Lord your respect.
Speaker 18 (58:23):
Well, that's that's the right answer to Yeah, that's the
right answer.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
That's the only time we say you should say both. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
I don't know why people don't say both all the time?
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Right for that question right, okay.
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
People talk about rock bottom that when you hit rock
bottom is when you'll make a change. But there's a
corresponding place that I call cliff top. Right, you could
be too high, where you get so high that you realize.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Literally none of the stuff can make you happy.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Right after you you get you can get to the
end of the material world.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You get to the end of money, you get to
the end of sex. You know, you get to the
end of fame.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
You get you you you have so much, and you
get and then you, you like go off of a
cliff into the same kind of abyss that you'd be
scared of slipping into at rock bottom, right where life
loses all of its ability to sustain and please you,
(01:41):
and then the only thing that's left the same thing
at rock bottom. The only thing that's left at cliff
top is you have to You have to find what
you're actually looking for, and what what you're actually looking
for is you.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
You're looking for you.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
You're running around right when you When you like a
woman and you like being with a woman, is because
you like how you feel. You like what's happening inside
of you. When you have money, it's like, yeah, it's
cool to buy things, but it's not the money. You
like how you feel inside. It's unleashing a feeling inside.
(02:23):
And at rock bottom and at cliff top, what you
have to learn how to do is generate that feeling
without anything external. You want to you have to learn
how to like like you so much that you like
being alive so much that you you bring positive energy
(02:44):
that's not generated by stuff. Right because stuff is coming
and going, like people are coming and going. Everything you
have and everybody you love is going to rise and
fall in your life. The place that we have to
find is a spiritual place where we are good with us.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We trust us.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I trust myself, I trust God, and I trust life
that whatever happens, I'm gonna make happy out of it.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I don't need specific things to happen.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Passing the torch is important. How you do it is
up to you. I've never had a problem with anybody
younger than me because this generation now grew up listening
to my beasts on YouTube, so it's different from me.
So for the you know, although he's not young anymore,
(03:35):
For the little yachties I talked to from time to
time from Madlan Tokyo that I talked to even at
one point ten years ago, Kendrick, you know, I was
a young nigga. Cole was a young nigga. Drake was
a young nigger. Nipsey, Hussel, Rest and Peace mac Miller,
all the ones I kind of, you know, talk to
over time and you know they're doing that thing now.
I mean, I've always been a teachabook type person, so
(03:58):
I'm always gonna talk to them about something regardless of
give him some type of because because I truly believe
there's a difference between the elder and the old nigga,
and we got too many old niggas. We need elders.
We need elders to pass down whatever it is. Tough
love for any kind of love, because some of these
kids ain't never had no love of any kind. So
(04:19):
that's that's how I look at her. Passing the torch
is important. How you do it is up to you.
I never had a problem with anybody younger than me
because this generation now grew up listening to my beasts
on YouTube, so it's different from me. So for the
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you know, although he's not young anymore. For the little
yachtis I talked to from time to time from mad
to Tokyo that I talked to even at one point
ten years ago, Kendrick, you know, I was a young nigga.
Cole was a young nigga. Drake was a young nigger.
Nipsey Hustle, rest in Peace, mac Miller, all the ones
I kind of you know, talked to.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Over time, and you know they're on that thing now.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
I mean, I've always been a teachabook type person, so
I'm always gonna talk to them about something, regardless of
some type of because because I truly believe there's a
difference between the eldery and the old nigga, and we
got too many old niggas.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We need elders.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
We need elders to pass down whatever it is. Tough
love for any kind of love because some of these
kids ain't never had no love of any kind.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So that's that's how I look at.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Comedy being I don't I don't want to censor it
almost you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
How do you?
Speaker 8 (05:33):
How do you?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
How do you walk that line?
Speaker 9 (05:35):
Here's still still to me, it's like, well, first of all,
is if you're offended by a joke, you're allowed to be.
That's why I keep telling people like I think there's
this idea that comedians are out here going.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You're not allowed to be offended by the joke.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Like however you.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
Feel, you feel like I don't know how you grew up,
Like maybe someone is really traumatic happened to you. And
if I'm joking about it, you know you feel all
those you know, horrendous feelings that you felt.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
As a kid. So you all have to feel whoever
you feel.
Speaker 9 (05:59):
If you only I'm making you uncomfortable to your face,
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 10 (06:03):
Joke around you anymore. I'll still say it around the world,
I'm not going to say it to you so like I.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Want you to laugh.
Speaker 9 (06:08):
But what I'm realizing now that like things are bigger
for me, is that the way that we grew up
specifically in New York. You probably haven't here in Miami,
maybe in Los Angeles, maybe in like San Francisco, maybe Chicago.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
But it's very unique.
Speaker 9 (06:26):
Most people did not grow up with a level of
comfort with another race or the station where you could
bust balls. People who have been in the military have
felt it because you you're protect your brother every single day,
so it doesn't matter if you're he's Asian and you're
fucking black.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like you got jokes to each other because there's so
much love, like I'm keeping you alive, you give me life.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
But we felt so much comfort growing up with it, but.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
We never even thought about it.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Like it wasn't until I got out of New York
and maybe went to college that I even knew people
got offended by.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Things, didn't.
Speaker 11 (06:59):
They just do the same thing to music, and none
of us said ship Prince t I, David, I told
you how stupid that wasn't y'all call me crazy? We
gave hip hop away, So what you're waiting for now?
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Hm?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We did a song. I don't know if you know this.
We did a song with rock him.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (07:23):
We had a song off of our one of our
heaviest metal records, and the song was so it was
a super song. This is a song like six minutes something.
It's like this Metallica style six minute song. And we
just placed in the middle where I was thinking of
doing a verse. Actually, they were saying like, you should
do a rap verse on this because that's the most
unexpected thing you could do. And my brain was like, well,
(07:45):
what can we do that be even more unexpected? And
we managed to reach out to rock him and he
drove because he doesn't fly, you know, he drove.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Out from New York all the way out to La
the verse.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Part.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Who's the best? Talk about talk about t about you?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
You wait way too fast, so you said, Rod.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Kim drove from New York.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I couldn't believe it either.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yo. That's let I'm taking a shot, even though you ain't.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Home from jail.
Speaker 13 (08:26):
In prison, yeah, in prison.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (08:30):
Don't take time for granted, and don't take it the
people you love, don't take them for granted. You can't.
And I'll tell you something f n because Jamaica prisons
is strange. It's like the gangster seen in Jamaica. Five
(08:50):
people will die here Kingston. But when you watch the news.
You only hear about the one person that died in
Montego Bay in a cheria. So you got to take
life seriously. The people you love. Got to spend it
with him. You know what My biggest shigett is and
(09:12):
my first son.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I had him.
Speaker 13 (09:15):
Who to the studio with You know when you get
that son, your first child is a son. So I'm
with him in the studio. I'm changing is changing his diapers.
I'm doing all of that. But what I regret the
most is not spending more time with him.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Who's the oldest little vibes.
Speaker 13 (09:33):
No Lika vibes. All right, But this is the good
thing about it. The liquor vibes gave me two grandchildren.
So now I have the opportunity, yes, giving me another chance, Yes,
second chances.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Man, God is the greatest.
Speaker 13 (09:49):
Bro. I believe in God. Bro when I was If
you watch a lot of my old interos, that's the
Wildford I know because you watch America.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'm like, yeah, so he knows what's up. I used
to say, bro, whatever x x X.
Speaker 13 (10:13):
Now I believe in Like my son, I didn't get
to raise him. He gave me two grandchildren. Yes, so
I can raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm like,
that's yeah, yeah, I'm like to my grandson, make sure
you get a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm not to my granddaughter if you ever two point zero.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
But seriously, though, it's like he gave me a new
lease on light to be able to because and this
is I'm going to tell you, I'm gonna be honest.
Before I got arrested, I never believe thank God as
a concept. Being in prison, and like I said, I
(11:09):
put the two thirty head on my Where is it
two thirty eight? Where is the tattoos?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't even know? Look, where is it? Two thirty eight?
Speaker 13 (11:18):
Let's start right chee right there? Right, yeah, yeah, don't
study Norman che.
Speaker 14 (11:27):
Hold on, hold on, got its nuts?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, hold on. When I said this, no, no disrespected.
Speaker 13 (11:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
When I'm gonna say.
Speaker 13 (11:51):
This, I knew that I was going to come out,
but at the time I needed extra energy because a
lot of people were depending on me, not just the
guys that I was arrested with, but my mother and
my father, my children, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember,
(12:13):
this is Jamaica, this is Wall Street, Ship, this is Jamaica.
So I had to put my faith in something other
than us. And that's when I got more spiritual, more
religious and started focusing. And that's when I tattooed the
(12:37):
thing on my face. Love God. I don't know if
he can see it.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
What's your.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
What man?
Speaker 13 (13:01):
But that's why I became more spiritual because I used
to or the church like most Jamaicans. Because Jamaicans have
the most churches for squirit capital. Really yeah, you know what,
you know what beats it the most bars. And I'm
not even joking, like literally bars beat not like where
(13:24):
you go to have drink, drink, rum, shamp whatever. The
most bar, yes, but but just by a slight because
think about this, we have the most churches per capital
in the world.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
The only thing that beats that, Wow, it's bars. That's
why you see.
Speaker 13 (13:43):
The the that's the world the places of nature of
Jamaica dispaces. So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying,
you're in the tourist country and you're enjoying yourself and
nobody knew. And on the other side, fifty three people
die in two days murder, So tell me so crazy
(14:06):
it is? Fifty three people die between Monday and between
Friday and Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
But when you are in Montego Bay, not.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And not the real Monthygo Bay.
Speaker 10 (14:20):
You're in the resort, the resort, right, the safe You're good, right.
Speaker 13 (14:24):
But when you go back to America and you go
on Google, you see that fifty three people die between
Friday and Sunday by murder.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's crazy, man. So tell me something.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Since you've been out, what have you seen change the
climate of Jamaica?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nothing? Just the love for me.
Speaker 13 (14:45):
But my thing is this, why are you shooting people
because you have no other option. You were in school
and you were you could paint very well. You could
draw jay Z and it looked like jay Z. But
because no one cared about that, and you lived in
(15:07):
flat boards, no opportunities, no opportunities.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So you just started to.
Speaker 13 (15:13):
Your gunman on your batman, and it feels good. You
know why it feels good because you're a man, and
man need get respect. Man need respect, and we need purpose.
So you found your purpose because you do it very well.
Run up and shooting them, is it right?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No?
Speaker 13 (15:36):
But all you had left was purpose. Found it with
your gun the same way we found it after the
gun with the microphone music with the microphone. Jordan's founded
with the basketball, but you don't punk. You want a
picture with Jordan's, pay me. That's why I have no
problem with Jordan's because I understand its mindset. Is it
(16:00):
wrong or right, that's for people to decide. But I
understand the mindset of the man because we will. I
grew up in the ghetto. I understand how it works.
Let me if you don't understand that, man, you were
naive Mellis in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know what I mean, Let's go skiing in window
or some trick.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Saying he would have I would have?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Would I would would? I'm like, man, fuck that. But
you know what this is one man percent something. I'm
gonna be honest with you. Bro, you really deserve your flowers, man,
not just here but in real life.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
No, facts, I didn't put my work in, bro, you
I didn't put my work.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And I ain't finished. You heard me. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I got a lot move you know what I'm saying
to contribute, man to the culture. Man, So you know
I'm just glad man, and I'm free. You know that
I got another shot at it. Man, And and and yeah, man,
I'm I'm a rep man' a rep man for the
real man.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So let me ask you. Bird Man was not sleep
on stage?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, they said he was reading something.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, not all right? So you come over.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You did Arena days, you know when, right, and they
had a set list tape, you know, to the floor
and and and the h the list of songs, and
you know you're looking at you know, you know what
I'm saying. He's reading, seeing what's coming up next. He
just gotta call from a band he got from a
(17:35):
bad angle. And then on some you know, just you
know work, you know, some wipe me down. You know
it's just on some you know about work. But it
looks funny. But no, round wasn't sleep, bro, you know
what I'm saying, Like rown, they never did a whole drug.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah man, you know what I'm saying. He used to
be on us.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I had seen ship on the internet about him being
on fitt No, and we had a good laugh about it,
like we josed off here. You know what I'm saying.
I sure stuff him like we josed off each other.
But yeah, now he was reading the song list.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Okay, because I'm gonna be honest with you. It looked
like it was finally your time to be the big homies.
It looked like like little things because it looked like
Little Man was like, let's go, Nigga, look at it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And this ain't me just trying to clean it up.
I'm just being one hundred percent real with it.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
He was reading the song list, man, because I have
to gize down there at times because the show probably
an hour damn the two hours for real, you know
what I'm saying. We got the first Cash Money set,
Bam and Wayne come out, then Bam and Wayne bring
us back out, you know, for the Hot Boys set,
you know what I mean. So it's you know what
I'm saying, by the time, probably like a two hour set,
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you know what i mean. So you know it's it's
yeah man, like like and motherfucker just be trying to
make sure I know what's coming up next, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So I gotta be on point, and I think you yeah,
I know, and if you like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, when you look at it, and he got a teleprompter, right,
just the teleprompter, but then you got the list.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
You know what I'm saying, tape to the floor.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
So it's like five sheets with all the song with
probably about ten songs on each, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
She and you know, Roun just got caught up reading the.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
List, bro, and it's just like the probably with some ship,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
So nah, but it's.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
All great though, man about nothing. It's like like like,
you know, he ain't tripping you, like, oh, press is
good press tripping the arenas you're selling out.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, and we're gonna keep getting this bag. And it
is what it is. Long as you are to reach me,
long as y'all.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
That's that's as long as I underrated five movie man
that reached me.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Ship.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
I don't know about underrated that moment. I'm a little
bit upset. I should have charged mo.
Speaker 15 (20:23):
Yeah, I was on fire right around that time.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
I should have changed a little more. But then with
Adam Sadler Chris.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Rock, Yeah, that was a great and because rentals.
Speaker 15 (20:35):
Let me tell you cigarette, let me tell you how
how I found out how far he was, how you
sweat he had so my granny at this time that
mind you, this was two thousand and four country grammar
than did Nellyville just coming out with Sweatsuit the double
album like I'm on fire.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
I'm like, this is.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Fire, Grannie. Granny is still.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
That's nice, not at all.
Speaker 15 (21:05):
I'm still Cornell, like I'm probably always be.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
But she was like, that's nice, Cornell. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
I was like, Granny, I'm doing the Gramms.
Speaker 15 (21:12):
Yeah, I saw you on the Grammars. Baby, you look good.
I just had to tell you that.
Speaker 14 (21:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (21:18):
You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, I saw the
football thing when you ran out.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah, I was good, you look good.
Speaker 15 (21:24):
I was like, okay, you know you can't get no rounds.
I'm like, shit, okay, So doing the I heard you
doing it. We're sitting around and she's like, I heard
you doing the movie. I was like, yeah, Granny, I'm
doing a movie.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
It's a football movie.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Boy.
Speaker 15 (21:37):
I'm explaining to her, good baby, do I hope you
have fun? And I don't know if my auntie somebody
said tell her who all tell her who in the movie.
And I'm not thinking nothing of it. I'm not thinking
nothing of it. My granny is like seventy year old
Black Saint Louis Lady, not thinking nothing of it.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
I know who she married. My granddaddy was a mother.
Speaker 15 (22:04):
Oh god, you know what I'm saying, Like straight like that,
and I'm like, okay, cool, I said, yeah, Adams saying that.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I know she granny don't know none of these people.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (22:13):
I'm like, Adam said, look, you know Chris Rock because
she you know. I was like, yeah, Adam saying, look
Chris Rock, Bird Renalds who.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Bird Renals? Rentals?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Who that why boy five?
Speaker 15 (22:31):
I said, Yo, here, your granny fan is the most
disgusting ship.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You know what I mean? Like you like she like
b Renals?
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Well, yes, you in the movie?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
What's so?
Speaker 8 (22:53):
What you doing?
Speaker 16 (22:53):
Man?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Don't get.
Speaker 15 (22:59):
So it was Grammy for all that shit at this
time twenty two million record, It doesn't even matter.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
She ain't. That's good baby, Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 15 (23:12):
We had a whole conversation for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
We ain't never talked fifteen.
Speaker 15 (23:16):
Minutes about my job, like probably altogether.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You know what I'm saying. I tell her what's that?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Boy?
Speaker 8 (23:23):
She wanted to know burn random, why y'all feeling this movie? Yeah?
So tell me about what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You do it?
Speaker 15 (23:30):
I say, yeah, I'm playing a running back. You didn't
play you was a receiver. He's like, no, I'm just
playing it in the movie. You know what I'm saying,
because you know, she know about what I was doing
at She was like, now you play receiver. You don't
play running back. No, Grannie, I'm playing it in the movie.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
You know what I mean? Okay, you little That's that's
why I started living.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Was small as ship.
Speaker 15 (23:52):
No no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah. Hell y'all.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
You be on set.
Speaker 15 (23:59):
You got all these great people, don't set, and these
telling stories sitting in the chair, and then your man
burd Renal.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Sits back like this and goes everybody shut them. Ain't
even filming. He's stopping the whole movie.
Speaker 15 (24:12):
Everybody want to hear this story because you don't know
what year this is.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
You just don't.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You don't have people.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
You don't know if it's finna be the.
Speaker 15 (24:23):
Hustle magazine, the Playboy magazine, if it's gonna be blond brutete.
You don't know if it's gonna be a dignitary or politician.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But you do not know.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
He's got him all and he sits back like this
and everybody's shut up. Adam Sander telling jokes. Everybody cracking up.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Chris Rocks is telling jokes. We got like nine.
Speaker 15 (24:42):
Comedians, you know how they start firing at each other
and going around.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
So it's hilarious.
Speaker 15 (24:48):
And Burt's just you know, I remember ship shut down
and man, it was awesome. He told us some stories
some ship I can't really say right here.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
He at Family Sniper.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He was like, you know, many man, because I mean again,
you see how elderly black lady spoke up about him, so.
Speaker 15 (25:19):
Imagine what you know what I mean like, I probably yeah,
he probably top three. You probably top three sniper of
all time.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
No, da.
Speaker 15 (25:32):
Gotta be top three sniper of all time all time.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
We had Kanye on this, yeah, I saw, and we.
Speaker 16 (25:41):
Had two different we had two different different episodes.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yes, and this is.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
This is your according to your words as you're saying,
this is like your mentor somebody that you looked up to,
somebody that puts you on. We made a lot of
great music together and we came we came up together, right.
Sometimes does it disturb you, Oh how did you feel?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Absolutely disturbs me. Some of the things he.
Speaker 17 (26:09):
Says, and and I'm not as disturbed for me because
what he said about me, I don't care. I'm like,
obviously it was a good thing for him and for
me that he signed me. I wasn't worried about the
literal words.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That he said.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I didn't take it personally.
Speaker 17 (26:25):
But I just feel like a lot of times he
seems to be going through ship and and every once
in a while we'll get, you know, these flurries of
outbursts from him, and it's sad.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Man. I don't love seeing it.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Man, I don't love seeing it for him because.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know him, like, yeah, like these people.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
To most people, and I don't want to stay on
this I'll get you know, yeah, well most people, it's entertainment, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 17 (26:52):
It's like, but that's your that's your brother, and it
is outrageous, and sometimes it's funny, like and some of
my friends will like, you know, text me hear what
he said. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, but like part of
it's sad, you know, it's sad seeing it. And I
still look at him as one of the most important
artists that we've ever.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Had, and I still like some of his music is just.
Speaker 17 (27:15):
Like truly incredible, groundbreaking, world changing and still holds up
now and.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I just feel like it's a shame.
Speaker 17 (27:25):
That that it gets clouded by all the other shit.
Speaker 16 (27:31):
God bless man, because to go more to the musical
side of it, like, yeah, that journey that when you
guys connected in the beginning, But was that like how so.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
What stage of his career?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
And for you, like what was that whole?
Speaker 17 (27:45):
It was good music, correct, Yeah, So it didn't even
exist good music.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
It didn't exist when we met. So I'm a new artist.
Speaker 17 (27:52):
I'm, like I said, working by day as a management
consultant in New York. One of my roommates I went
to college with his name is Devo, and Devo had
a cousin from Chicago that was about to move to
the area and his name was Kanye West.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
So Devo he's not known.
Speaker 17 (28:11):
Neither no, but he had just started working Jay and
Dame and all of them at Rockefeller and.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
He had just.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Him and just Blade basically did the whole blueprint.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
That's right, right.
Speaker 17 (28:24):
So when I met Kanye was May of two thousand
or like late spring or early summer in two thousand and one,
And I remember it because it was at Jimmy's Uptown,
and I recorded that show at Jimmy's Uptown in Harlem.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, Jimmy's Uptown.
Speaker 17 (28:40):
Yeah, We're gonna stab somebody, So I'm doing a show
there and we recorded it and we actually put out
a live record to my fans of that recording. So
that's why I knew when I met him was because
it was that day that we recorded the show, and
(29:01):
my roommates like, you gotta meet my cousin. He just
moved to New York and he's producing for a Rockefeller
and we met and then we started working together a
few months later. He was working on his demo and
he was trying to get signed as a rapper.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But everybody was like.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yeah, you keeping serious?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Yeah, because not for a second, because Farrell always downplays
when when like when me and Farrell, Farrell was cocky
as ship, even as a person that was coming up
was Kanye Kky.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah he was cocky.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah cool, is Susan right.
Speaker 17 (29:37):
He's not the same as he was back then, but
he was.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
He's always like had a shrunk.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
He was the ship.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, was like he's so humble now I'm like, no, no, no,
I Remember but when.
Speaker 16 (29:48):
The guy told you my cousin, did you already know
about his production?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No, it wasn't out yet.
Speaker 17 (29:53):
So the Bluebird came out nine eleven, remember nine eleven,
on the day of nine eleven.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
And that's that's yeah, he's debut to product.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
That was his first big moment as a producer.
Speaker 17 (30:03):
So yeah, Izzo, which was a single before the album
came out, and then he had a few cuts on
the album and then Blaze did the other side. So
it was just like both of them were the album basically,
So that soul sample sound was the whole blueprint sound
and yay, and just Blaze did the whole thing basically.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And he's telling you this.
Speaker 18 (30:23):
And you believe him, Like I'm like, let's meet him,
like at this point, like I'm trying to get signed too,
and I'm like, let's try it.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
You know, like I don't know him, but we'll see.
Speaker 17 (30:34):
And you never know what hip hop producers because some
aren't musical enough because they're more like bea driven and
you know, I'm an R and B artist, some more soulful.
So I want somebody that still has some musical underpinnings.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
And the good thing about.
Speaker 17 (30:47):
Yay was he He was using all the soul samples
and the music was very soulful. So it was like
the perfect blend of soul and hip hop for us
to work together. So we start working together, like late
two thousand and one, early two thousand him too. He
gets in an accident, you bet, before that, before the accident,
(31:07):
and I think he was signed by the time he
had the accident, but damning him. Our impression was they
signed him just so they could keep him in house
for beef. Yes, not because they really thought he was
going to be successful.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
We saw artists who were so much you me Dancie
like the crew.
Speaker 17 (31:28):
So we got this, yeah, the whole crew. Yeah, so
we and I started to get to know them later.
But you know, Devo was working with him, my roommate.
He was like basically running his production company, and so,
you know, Kanye really believe in himself as a solo artist,
and a lot of his team did, but I felt
and a lot of us felt like Rockefeller didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So he gets an accident.
Speaker 16 (31:51):
Can I tell you real quick to add to the story,
I was working for Deaf Jam at the time, and
they weren't.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Pushing him as an artist.
Speaker 16 (31:58):
He went and sent he got the list of all
the street teams, sent the white labels of his singles hustling,
and started a conference call with himself and all the
street teams. So, yo, we're pushing this like himself. Yes,
outside of the infrastructure of the label.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
He was so entrepreneurial. He put out his own mixtape.
Speaker 16 (32:17):
And.
Speaker 17 (32:19):
He got an accident and made Through the Wire. And
then he started just camping because he got an accident
in La So he started just camping out at the
W and Westwood in La Yeah. And so I would
go out there from New York whenever I had time
and we would work on college dropout with him, and
I wrote used to Love You out there and some
(32:39):
of my.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Songs Forget Lifted.
Speaker 17 (32:41):
And that's when I started to see after the accident
this new sense of like this man is on a mission.
And it started with Through the Wire. But then I
heard Jesus Walks and all these other records. I'm like, Yo,
this is gonna be. And I played piano on Lauren
Hill's Miseducation So What What What too?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
So you put my was on the whole.
Speaker 17 (33:03):
I played piano and everything is everything on Lauren Hill's album.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
And I said to ya when I was listening to Jesus.
Speaker 17 (33:09):
Walks, I was like, I feel like I was part
of one album that changed the world in ninety eight
and this is album is about to do the same
thing in two thousand and four.
Speaker 18 (33:18):
And you got credit for Laurence Hill. Yeah, I feel
like John Stevens. Yeah, I was legend Stevens.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, you know that's wild man, that's yea, because how
did you go through the red Rip? Let's just finish
this right.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
So anyway, that time was crazy because we're all out
in la We're meeting up with him.
Speaker 17 (33:39):
He's recovering from the accident, but he's got this new
sense of purpose and uh, he's making the best music
of his life up to that point. And it just
felt like the momentum was was there and it was
going to be a big, special album and it was
sure was Yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
How about the Grammy family, Like, yeah, you had whole
industry shook up every Monday at one point or we.
Speaker 17 (34:03):
Were doing the Good Fridays Friday.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
My bad, I said, Monday that lets you know how
much I'll be drinking. Like was that something that y'all
all got together and said, we're gonna look up the industry.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I think sometimes yea, he just gets in.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
That like creative like uh.
Speaker 17 (34:23):
Like that just extra excitement and he's ready to like
he's just got all these ideas and he just wants
to get him out and he's like, that's just good Fridays.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
That was the time.
Speaker 17 (34:32):
He's like, everybody at the studio needs to wear a
suit and tie, and so everybody was dressing like there
was in Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
At the studio.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
They called it the rose Era. It was like a
whole thing. So he sometimes he's just be on.
Speaker 17 (34:44):
One and he's like that's his thing at that time,
and that's what he be on.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
That's yeah, goddamn it, I wish you auld good into
the studio. Well a goddamn reservoir dog. Jesus.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
He called it the Rosewood Era.
Speaker 16 (35:03):
So then you get so so now getting into your
project transitioning from his.
Speaker 17 (35:08):
Yeah, So it was all happening at the same time though.
So we were working on like used to Love You
and some of the joints from Get Lifted during the
same time that we're working on College Drop at.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
The same time.
Speaker 17 (35:20):
It was all happened at the same time, we're both
trying to get I was trying to get signed after
he had already gotten signed to Rockefeller, and I eventually
signed to.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Good Music and my roommate was.
Speaker 17 (35:31):
Running the label for him, so I was basically signed
to my roommate's.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Label with his cousin.
Speaker 17 (35:37):
And eventually, after College Dropout came out, that was when
the industry really started to be like okay for the
whole crew. So before that, we took the same music
to all the labels and they turned us down or
they gave us a low offer. And when College Dropout
came out, everybody changed their tune.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
We had a bidding war and with Columbia.
Speaker 10 (36:01):
And who was the crew at the time, You Consequence.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
GLC, don ce I mean those.
Speaker 17 (36:07):
Are the artists, Me, Consequence GLC and yay, that was
those were the artists. But then don Cee John Monopoly.
The whole crew was. You know, we were touring together,
we're opening for us, sure together?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Uh that was the crew?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Crazy man? Did you ever think?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Because yeah, I was like almost like the modern day
Wu Tang clan right like like but not exactly okay,
but with different like you know, you had to push
your t you had consequence.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, you had.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
You, you had kick cutting Sean Big Sean like during.
Speaker 17 (36:41):
That during that Good Friday's time, that was a like
latt Roster was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'm I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
As as an industry person, we were scared of that Friday.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You did not like it, being.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
Like not gonna say I'm not making music no more.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
So.
Speaker 17 (36:55):
Yeah, the records like Click and some of those records
were insane.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, we were mad at y'all. We were like, why
why did y'all.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Want to just blogging down?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, it was wold.
Speaker 17 (37:06):
And then right around that time, right after that time,
Jay and Kanye start working on Watching the Throne, like
probably this is the one, this is the.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Main Washington, Yeah, the only one.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (37:20):
So this is around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. He's uh,
he's up in the Mercer. They talk about the song
the Mercer Hotel in New York and I'll tell.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You something about car Let's let you know.
Speaker 17 (37:32):
I So they were literally they were literally in the
Mercer Hotel and he just brought his studio equipment in
there and was making Watch the Throne with Jay and
then we made Love in the Future my album that
came out in twenty thirteen in that same hotel, and
so all of me was on that. I didn't do
that one with Yay, but Yay produced the whole like
(37:55):
executive produced the whole album. And that was another crazy time.
So has been these times when yeah, he's really on,
like a creative tear and uh producing some of the
best music of that era.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
It was incredible.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Rock him or care rest one.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I can pick even one either.
Speaker 10 (38:21):
If you pick one, we're not drinking. But if you
say both of the damn.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Drink got it?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Don't do it on purpose?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you do a smaller shot. Yeah yeah, yeah,
get it. Glad what you're doing, don't get it drinking,
don't get it.
Speaker 16 (38:42):
Drink a small shot for yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
It must be strong.
Speaker 16 (38:48):
I got tupac are easy.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Damn. Both of them? Was my guy? Both Okay? Oh, no,
where you at what you're doing?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Son, he's drinking for him.
Speaker 10 (39:02):
He's about just need a drinker, Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I respecting you. You know what. I love to drink.
You know what I said, you know what, I'm gonna
join him. Y'all asked some crazy you got to stand.
You understand easy easy roof Easy came with ruthless. Here
you got easy came with changed the game, easy, changed again,
pocket changes. You can't you know what I mean? So
I got to get easiest props.
Speaker 16 (39:23):
Yes, yeah, rap Radar, Joe Bunden Podcast, rap Radar or
the Joe Bump Park, both of them.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
IM messing with both. I messed with anybody. You can't
leave You can't leave me down in the mountaine, both
of all of them. Is you're not great. I forgot
to say rap Radar to hated on you. No, you know,
take your.
Speaker 16 (39:46):
Shots right off a crazy joints major figures to state products.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
With both Philly Baby both y'all play. I fell him up,
fell him up.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I'm gonna be one up on this.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Are you taking this time? I forgot?
Speaker 10 (40:09):
Okay, you got this one?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Okay, my bad.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I don't even glasses now, both everything.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I like both of them, though, I'm gonna say I ain't.
I ain't everybody we're seeing you were watching you?
Speaker 16 (40:27):
He said, Okay, Okay, jay Z or Big Daddy came.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
I don't know, you look like you have three Yes.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
All right, so listen, I'm gonna just tell his story.
Big Daddy Kane was mad at me one day. Big
Daddy can listen a legend. He coming through the airport. Right,
it's early in the morning. We're in La So we
were get on this donkey doing this day, said Gil
were raking some tea. Cain got a mask on. He
walking down all the time. I go on, fan move,
(41:02):
came what's up? Like I draw it on him? He
was not trying to be noticed. He like Gil just
told him. So he like, I'm like, King, what's up? Ship?
Come on, Gil, come in this King, because you know
Gil said, I'm the biggest back in the Day groupie
of all rappers. I'm just this. I love all back
in the day for no reason. That's the ship to me.
So I'm like, damn King, what's up? So your badyies
(41:24):
will go ahead drink again? Kinge and came in.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
So you King, I'm going with both were both, but
he gave us a King story.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
On a cane story. Man Carrie's pissed.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Bruce Lee Royd, where'd you go with Buce Lee?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Listen you listen. I killed that. No, no, no, no,
that that that I just made this one up. I
gotta I gotta pick one on this one. And I'm
telling you why I'm picking one. Do you know Bruce
Lee Roy told me that I'm Bruce Lee Roy Jones.
I see it.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
I see that, Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
He still looked at gud To.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
He's a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
He's a bad boy again. This girl still popping.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
He's a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I had to. I'm sorry, I had to Bruce Lee.
Worry would have picked by. I don't got nothing to
do with that.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
He was part of mine.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean, that's a good Pety Cracker, meek Mill, both
of them. Philly drink up, drink Kelly here. I love
Philly though he can't do that.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
Biggie a big L.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Big L was big. It was the beast. I'm gonna
say this. Big L was better than a lot of
in New York.
Speaker 10 (42:39):
If you would have ended up signing with the Rock
which y'all.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Y'all go ahead the story. Drink, drink again. Both.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
When I think you're gonna say one, he's like no, but.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
He was a barbarian man. If he didn't go, it
was over. Let me get my drinking. They just drunk
a bottle, messing with me. Damn Ron.
Speaker 10 (42:58):
I'm sorry, black thought or no black thought or nas
I like this.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
That's a good one, and that's I'm going with both.
Come on, I think I will.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
But no, man, they're both barbarians. They are.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
You got the right. I'm just gonna be drinking. I
just just start going like that.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Oh I forgot you. I said both. Now I think
you truly believes in both black thoughts and animal and
no animal now saying all.
Speaker 16 (43:34):
Even Missy, just let me just pour up already.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
They both legends, man, got he's a legend. Missy's a legend.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
You get me now?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
You can handle it? All right, y'all, y'all coming with
joints this too, like combat jacker text on rest in peace,
Rest in peace, Rest in peace, to listen, rest in peace?
Speaker 7 (44:06):
On back jack both Yes, and you know and shout.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Out to my man tags. Yeah both y'all. Y'all done.
Y'all shouldn't have done this. Yeah that ship. Yeah, look
it's chess burd. It's chess burden.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I ain't gonna lie that t those look hot, okay,
Sonny red Sonny, I got to man, I gotta be real.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
You always a little loozy or a little Dirk both
of them.
Speaker 10 (44:38):
Should I just.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Should we just say how many we got? We just
say both?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Come on, y'all. The last one he's going to fix.
Speaker 16 (44:47):
I got a point shot love love, I'll.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Do it all right, Geno's or Pats cheat the I'm
gonna say something right, Okay, in the hood, we never
ate them because they don't chop these stuff up like
seven joints in the hood. So you want me to
change twitch it up?
Speaker 8 (45:13):
Food?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Let me say this all right, let me say let
me say the names.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Shout out the ones that you eat.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Let me say the names, and I guess switches. Yeah,
taste cheesecakes, cheese steaks, and you say what food? Food chases? No,
I was going to change it up, No I got.
I'm gonna say, taste cheesesteak food food, Uh chases, escabibbles,
(45:46):
pretty girls cook, country cooking. I'm missing somebody juice by
be what's what's the name with the glasses, the cooking,
the dj bou joint. Oh, she's gonna kill me. Mm hmm.
(46:09):
What you're talking about? Every Yeah, everybody peeling all of them.
So y'all gotta drink it all.
Speaker 10 (46:19):
He said both times three, So I'm gonna give you
one more.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
So food chases or Bees food truck.
Speaker 10 (46:24):
Yeah, I got drinking.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Both take another one. Got that the one time I
wish I was drinking. I'm gonna say, keep.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Boom boom age Mamajuana.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
And Kings and queens, Kings and queens, Kings and queens too,
was gonna make the list. Scobber, Yeah, they Hollywood, but
they do these things too. But taste teeste. Yeah, they
got my picture in the wall. That's why your to
throw its.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
I'm telling you know, I'm gonna at me.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, okay, y'all, but fat boys nothing what you got?
Speaker 16 (47:04):
Fat boys times nobody?
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Fat boys or beastie boys both?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Come on, man, lay back.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I love about opinion.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Many you got.
Speaker 18 (47:14):
I love him, everybody love.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Everybody you know supposed to be broke. Go ahead, damn man,
I mean to do this.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Man, Rocky three or Creed three, Creed.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, Michael, you know Michael be Joe and that's my
guy the show Rocky. He inspired us all.
Speaker 16 (47:36):
Jesus ran this is your speech for for both. Y'all
got to stay here and be drunk. That Chasey chasing
Scarface or ice Cube, both.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
Legends I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Say both y'all, you give me nothing. I ain't give me.
Speaker 16 (48:05):
Any stories with these people though. Ice Cube y'all interviewed ice.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
C You know what, let me tell you somebody ice
Cube cubes a hater, and I'm gonna tell you why.
I cues all right, cbe hated on me. So the
Big Three comes, So we go to playing the Big
Three every year. Gil will get the m v P.
So We're in the locker room and we're getting ready.
I'm like, yea, we're gonna go there. We gonna kill him.
Cue we got him this time. He said, Wallow, this
is what I need you to do.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
He said, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Just come here, man, listen, listen. He's trying to get
out of it. He's trying to make sure somebody wants
Somenny ready throw up so Cube. So we're in the
locker room, were all getting ready for the game to
stand third. I said, listen, man, we're gonna do this.
I'm starting this that day. He said, wollow, this is
what you're gonna do. Gil, do you wanna do this?
He telling anybody what to.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Do this this cue.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Anthony Edward was on the team.
Speaker 16 (48:51):
Me.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
I mean Anthony Anderson. Uh uh me, Gil, it was
a bunch of efforts. But what ever, he said, Wallow,
and you tell everybody to do some Wallow. This is
what I needs you to do. I need you to
just sit on the bench and just chill and hype
the team up here, because I ain't gonna lie. Wallow.
(49:13):
You know I got I got four points in that game.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I'm four points.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
A little bit riding the culture. I realized that you
might be trash a little bit, like a little bit
like they said, you ain't see my joint. You ain't
see that. Dude slammed. He't get that. Got to show them, no, no, no,
it's a lot of people that be hating on me.
Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant hated on my game name Lillard Stack,
(49:37):
all them dudes, Matt Boring, I Cook, Mark Burns one time.
You ain't you ain't see what I did to donavand Mitchell.
You ain't see me working out of I cook. I
barbed you give him, but go ahead next.
Speaker 10 (49:47):
Like oh man Nipsy or young Dolf rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Everybody. Okay, y'all, y'all, just y'all nothing brow, go ahead
and y'all man, have work bad night man with me. Yeah, no,
you're enjoying this too. That's clearly I'm sorry. Man, you
got sorry, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
You'll drink y'all lucky man, you.
Speaker 10 (50:10):
Didn't take your drink.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
We did, just took a drink. He should have since
your son man Kodaker pouch heisty both.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Forget it.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Then my nepts, bro.
Speaker 10 (50:24):
I gotta I gotta get work couple that ship.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Then my nepts though, Yes you did, yes you did.
Last time I see him, he beat me for a
thousand dollars. Man, clean me out.
Speaker 16 (50:41):
I got your next one ready because we was back
see you already, ug k back on out cast.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I got a pocket full of stone.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Both.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
It's beginning to look a lot like follow my every
step take not yeah, both you know my hip hop
and story. Why is ya asking me this ship? Because
because we're trying get them drunk, they're gonna be I'm sorry, Rod,
Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock.
Speaker 16 (51:07):
Oh wait, wait, hold on, hold we not that yes,
Sunny Wait a minute, no, no, no, no, that's the last one.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Y'all got to drink that ship.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Today.
Speaker 16 (51:16):
Joint Okay, okay, okay, my man, my man, making sure
I'm not alone in this, y'all.
Speaker 15 (51:23):
Every time you got relationship with what, you got a relationship.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
With the Listen, listen, listen. I'm gonna say this. He left.
Dave gave me a million dollars worth of game. One
time was he spoke with cigarettes. I'm in the dressing
room with Dave, right, me and Gil we in there.
I'm telling we I'm talking about were tripping. I'm we're
(51:51):
talking about all time. Told Gil Gil like, Daved like, Gil,
you got a hell of a game. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 19 (51:55):
That and one he called Gillah, I see you know,
I see this that news He said, all right, whatever,
but whatever Gi the white ship powder man.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
But whatever they tell you, the case may be that
white Dave said, Dave said, Dave said, listen, Dave did listen.
Dave said, Wow, I was trying to figure it out.
I had all this money they kept paying me for
for shows and all this. I can't. I can't, I
can't make it happen. And I kept looking for something,
and that's how he came up with Dave Chapelle. He
(52:25):
read a fortune cookie that said everything you need you
already got in your kitchen the best meal. He said,
something like the best meal you'll ever cooking. All the
greedients is already in kitchen. And he just starts shooting
David The Chappelle Show because he was like, I already
had the people I needed right there. I keep looking
for all this other ship, but my guys that I
deal with is already actually Larry, that's a piece of
Charlie Murphy, the whole team, but both of them. Because
(52:47):
I love Pooky already.
Speaker 16 (52:49):
I thought we drank that one already before that.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Man, Yeah, Pooky was a legend.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
That was a great story though. I love it like that.
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 16 (52:59):
Oh d B.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
A is marquee, Rest in peace to two legends, Rest
in peace both. I'm talking about one thing about O.
D B. When he came out man first of all
legendary songs, Nobody beats the Biz and the Vapors was classic.
Can you feel it? No Savior?
Speaker 4 (53:15):
And this is this season for catching.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
The vapors business. He was that guy the game Biz
didn't and O d B didn't give um. You know
what I'm saying. When that, when that, when that Brooklyn
Zoo came out, Brooklyn, that tape he got the he
got the welfare idea on the it was just legendary.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Both all we knew it was both.
Speaker 10 (53:34):
We just want you to explain some stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
N w A or public.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
I mean that I would listen.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna take you from real ship.
There's no bullshit. I'm at I met this. Uh this
a city of Angels. Everybody in there, all the CEO no, no, no, no,
I think it's called City Angels. Then't give him some
of the leff. Listen, look there the dopest hip hop
(54:04):
ship ever happened to because like like y'all, bet I
mentioned DJ Premier because'm beefing him. I' gonna tell you
about that ship. I'm gonna tell you why nobody. I'm
gonna tell you why he did some ship. Listen, got
premieres back, so so listen, hold on, hold up. So
we enjoyed, right, So they give it Leo and everybody
in there. So I'm sitting there, I'm like this, I
got to shoot on chilling. I look over to go
(54:27):
Chuck d chuck. He did one of these jonts. I
was done this this chuck this uncle chuck this public
nmy number one. Did you have a Pittsburgh hat? No?
He I think he had some geens. You know, he
keeping jeens with some levis. But I don't know. I'm
just like, oh ship, this dude know who I am.
It was just a legendary moment for both.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Now I felt the same. He tweeted about dreams. I
framed it.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
You're not legendary. That is like these the younger kids
might like, man, they tripping out. This dude, he spoke
truth to power. He a legend in n w A.
I figured out what he's doing. He said, I'm gonna
make sure Sonny never drink again. I'm this is this,
this is gonna be sunny real.
Speaker 7 (55:13):
Put it too much in there, SCHOOLI d or Icy,
let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Listen, Ice T said, listen, listen, listen, listen to you
know school, he said, looking at my goose Jesus. About
that time, he said, but but, but but nothing is
like Saturday night. It was a Saturday night. I was
feeling kind of sporty, went to the ball. But I
said this is what I said, just what I said.
(55:42):
I said, I said this and this was this was
so crazy. I said, speed of life fast. It's like
walking bedfoot over broken glass. It's like jumping rope on
a raising blade. All lightning, quick decisions are made. Lifestyle.
Ice was so cold. Right when I was young. I
(56:02):
wanted to be Ice. I used to I used to
ripe ice in the mirror, like, damn this boy Ice.
And then when he killed a new Jack hustler, new Jack,
new Jack, new Jack hustler. And then when he said,
I gotta put hair none a bitch WITHO and I
got a Twitter as big as a TV set, and
it's over there. Hey, the one I want to get
(56:23):
but Joe, but maybe not. She might not like me. No,
no sweat to a vet. I get assisted though word
she said, I.
Speaker 20 (56:29):
Gotta said, he said, he said, he said, I gotta said.
He said, I gotta make who rocks in fact gold lak,
who like the people that.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Want to kitchen sink. I gotta put hair putting none ofife.
He was cold. He was cool, and then school he
was just cold.
Speaker 10 (56:52):
Both and you know there was both real stories too.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
No cozy Robin okay, Oh ship millions sparks. Oh she
know both Philly bro Philly. That a loaded question tells
of a hustler. He's miss hustle. So you managed going
for them, that's right, Okay, God damn it. Take a shot.
Then sparks a young gun. They was killing that John
(57:24):
moving out and strivel memories of them Cassidy or young
Chris both Philly. Damn listen this this, this makes this
a clip by itself. Yes, we got the dress. This
is Drake Champs at his highest drunk. You ready now this? No,
this is this is the one one more I do this?
Speaker 7 (57:46):
Oh yeah, Willim Smith or Kevin Hark, He's gonna say
both regardless.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Both. Okay, that's easy, man.
Speaker 7 (57:56):
That's the last one that you can get back to the interview.
Loyalty or respect. We got a drink, though, relaxed, chill,
everybody drink. Let's stay true to this game that Sony.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
Letna get you how to drinking games, Sonny. Yeah, I
know what you're trying to do. Cheers. Listen, he said,
I love this last one. Okay, Lord your respect.
Speaker 18 (58:23):
Well, that's that's the right answer to Yeah, that's the
right answer.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
That's the only time we say you should say both. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
I don't know why people don't say both all the time?
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Right for that question right, okay.
Speaker 16 (58:35):
Drink Champs is a drink Champs ll C production hosts
and executive producers n O r E and d j
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Speaker 4 (58:43):
Listen to drink Champs on.
Speaker 16 (58:44):
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