#Throwback Episode - w/ Havoc (of Mobb Deep) | (Ep. 17) - Drink Champs

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Offer ends four thirty nineteen. Yeah, what's up, y'all? Was
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
And right now we have.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
One of the members from one of the most legend
DEBI bears.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
In hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
He is also one of the best producers that ever
hands that lived, hands down. He is also the man
behind everything that was produced there. He's also he is
also a very lion, this type of person. He came

(01:38):
to the lions Den.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
He didn't care about the Romans or none of that.
He came.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
He flew out on his own dime. He's a legend.
I knew him from Twelfth Street. I knew him from
back then, and he is in the house with the
drink champs. In case you guys are confused or don't
know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the legendary
have it of Mark May.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I am very listening.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm very This is one of my most excited interviews
because I know our history and I know how cool
we are.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
But I know how I know how.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
The internet, you know, take ship up and switch and
switching and bounce it. And the interesting thing about you
is like, I just recently got asked to do a show.
It's called Hot Hot Ones, right where you do the
Hot Wings. And I was like, yo, I wanted to
change it up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I was like, yo, listen, it's a show.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's a show is called It's on Complex. So I
was I was like, yo, I want to change it
up a little bit. Tell them about dow five wings
that's real hot, and.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'll do five of the strongest vodka in the world.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And I thought about it. I was like, half could
have easily said that to me. He's gonna said, Yo, y'a,
I'll do it, but I want to do it on
this and you did not.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Let's make some noise for kid.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
So listen, you got one of the best hip hop
stories I ever want this beat. This is one of
the best hip hop stories I ever heard. You made
shook ones or for the Project Stove. Yeah, he is
very smart. How many other people been cooking on the
Project Stove?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
It ain't making a dollar. Let's make some noise. Let
me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
At that time, people in Baisley, people in forty people
were really listening to the Project Solved.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I didn't even think about it. Said that is the
that is the before you're lighted.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, right before you light it. You know what I'm saying,
before come on and all that.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know, So let me ask you, did you think
of the beat when you heard that.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Nah, you know, I was just in the fucking projects,
you know, broke as fuck, just like want something like
I just got to make some ship.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
So you know, the stove inspired me, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
So I was like, yeah, let me throw this into
the beat and you know whatever is after the first album,
this is you. I never really considered Juvenile Hill. I
never even I never think about it, no doubt. So
I always be like, you know what I'm saying. The
Infamous album is like my first album, and the the

(04:12):
juvenile hell.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Is like the miscarriage.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah he No, he didn't executive produce it,
but he he really helped us out.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Like he wasn't nobody. He didn't talk about the Infamous album. No,
he didn't know. Yeah, he used to drive out. Let
me look at the lesson Man, that is so dope.

(04:50):
That was our first album right there. You produced this
on this as well.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
No, I got my first taste of production on there.
I really didn't know how to produce at that time, right,
so I just did, like, you know, one or two
songs on there.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Because you went into art and design, so that means
very smart. I'm not smart. Let's make for that's a
prestigious school. My brother from I'm from from the town.
I know it is. So when did you start producing? Like,
like what.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Happened back when the producer asked me for We asked
for a beat from a known producer.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I've seen Ris, not Riz, but I'm not gonna blow
his name up. Whoever it was. I should we petty
on drink? Chaps? Right, take another drink? Take another drink?
More did you drink? We need you to get petty
right now?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Come on, all right, But I love this guy to death.
But p Rod asked us for like twenty five grand
and our budget was only sixty thousand, and he asked
us for twenty five thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna make my own
beats for real. That's how it started. That's how it started. Wow,
during during this project, during no during the it was
that project. It was that project because I seen Rizzard
inside the label and he said that you asked him
for a beat. He told you to keep making your

(06:13):
own beats.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, he inspired me to. He was like no, no,
not God, make your own ship. And then I was like,
all right, fuck it. Then I made my own ship.
I didn't even know how to make beats really, like
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I just was like just.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Watching people because you know, because you know you're from
left right, loge pros from over there.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I used to go over there to lodge.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Pro crib and then watch him make beats. And whenever
I used to ask him questions like yo, how you
do that, He'd be like like, chill, Like chill, don't
ask questions, just watch.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I used to just watch large pro do beats.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
With the infamous out right, and he learned from the
best of the game.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
I mean, you know, q Tib was ill and he like,
we didn't have no money back then, so you know,
they was just willing to help us, just.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Just just from the buzz of juvenile Hell, it wasn't
no buzz. It wasn't the word. I mean, look, I
got it in Florida. I got this in Miami.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
I mean, now it's a buzz like you know what
I'm saying, Like, you know, that was our first album.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But it wasn't no buzz.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
I got this before Shook Ones and all that, right,
I mean, but it was cool to make some noise
project all the way.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh yo, Like we were bumping it.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Listen, he gave kres Won a tennis ball from nineteen Yeah,
it was not.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Like nineteen ninety three years old, from from nineteen forty
three before kres was born.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Tennis boys, a little cares you signed this for me,
and you know what I mean, this is my man man.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, so you guys you worked with Biggie Smalls, Right,
how was that? I mean, it was pretty cool, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
We had just dropped, you know what I'm saying, the
infamous album and he was working on Life After Death.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
So Puff hit me up. He was like, yeah, I
need some tracks for whatever. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
But it's a strange story that happened because I gave
I sent Puff some beats and then we actually did
it in the studio. Like the beat that I did
it got lost whatever he paid for and like Puff
is like a gangster, He was like, Yo, where's the
track I paid? He was like, I was like, yo,
I got it. He was like, well, you're gonna make

(08:24):
this beat right there, you do it, You're gonna do
it over. So then I had to, you know, recollect
it and just do it over.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now what beat was that living to my last day,
money to kids, good Night, the ones with the locks
on it on.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
And you just did famous. You got something to do
with that with the Kanye sh the video was wild.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah. I spent like.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Six months in Cali working on on on on the
album with Kanye.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah. I spent that time out there.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
I only got, like you know, wanting to have tracks
on there, but it was worth it.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Just smoke already, man, Just go back to blunt. You
ain't supposed to currency. You inflorenced me currency. I'm over
here smoking a comb. You do you don't want me
to smoke that?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
No.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
So you used to drink and J back the original
Drink Champions, Yeah yeah, j Would you say that was
the worst days of your life?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
That was which you said that the worst? The word
like you was bad. I said that was like the
roughest days of mine. Yeah. Yeah. We used to wake
up drinking that.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I went to Queens Bridge one time, like eleven o'clock
in the morning. A lot of people don't know this.
The first time I met you wasn't through Capone. It
was through Twin Me and Twin was locked up and
smarting big up the Twin for queens Bridge, Mo, nigga,
Big Twin makes I came and you guys got shook ones.
You got the number one record in the world. You
sitting on the bench, on top of the bench just

(10:02):
down the bottle, E and J just fall.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And everybody like, oh ship. I was like, Yo, this
nigga's around.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
It was in the world with me, like to see
and you was you was at that time, you was
dead up, still living in the hood.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And you were you had the number one record.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
You could have bounced like after I made money, I
was like, I thought about you. I was like that
nigga really stayed like you duped.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
It out for a while for a little second.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Did you save at least what you were? Did I
save save the bread? You save money? Nah, we were
spending that ship was spending that yo.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
But yo, that that was ill, Like that was my
first experience.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like I came to Queen's Bridge and I've seen you
the first day.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I remember Twin introducing us, But I remember that ship
was like ill to me, like to see that you
was really still out there, like and you was rich,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like you you have
money coming in your niggas had shows that that record
was everywhere.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Now because you know what it was like, because when
you're living in the project exactly like where you come
from or whatever, when you got respect, you don't feel
like going anywhere, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You got that respect, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Not saying like I was a gangster or anything like that,
but I just had that respect, you know what I'm saying.
Out there, and I could have money.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You're comfortable being the you know what I mean. It's respect.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Some niggas get money and they gotta leave because they
don't got no.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Respect, you know what I'm saying. So I stayed out
there for a reasonable amount of time, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And then and then and then what made you find
what was the final step where you said, I gotta
get the fuck upout it?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Because I used to come in the crib like around
you know, four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in
the morning.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Was out, there was out, There was a wild and
knock you the knock you out, knock you out.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, he's wow like that.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Yeah, But you know, after a while, it was like
you can't dangle meet in front of the wolves for
too long. So I just was like, you know, let
me just go because you know what it was why
it took me so long, Because I was scared.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
You know what I'm say saying.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I always lived in the projects, living on my own.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
The lyric you said, no matter how much I get,
I gotta stay tuned to that.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
It was wild, but you know so you know, I
was a little scared, so I was like, you know,
fuck it. I just went on on my own, became
a grown man. It was like I gotta get my
own credit. You know what I'm saying, Get on some
grown ship.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
You can't get You was way too big of an artist,
way too big. And but your block is famous, like
people got to know twelve Street run. Our test is
the next building from you.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, This is correct? Right, that is correct.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's half building on test building and then Compons.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Building right and Compons building right there, and all of
our families.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Was all cool with this crazy I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
All so like when I see ron Ron on TV
run our tests on TV, like you know.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Supposed to be calling a metal world peace, but plan
you know, so when I see him and stuff like that.
It's not like a thing where we'll be like yo
oh ship he from my projects.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Nah, we all know each other like it's like really family.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I've seen Roman in club live with nas. He pulled
out a nineteen eighty nine Nokia phone. I said, Slime,
you gotta.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Step it up. You got phones? Man?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
When I say player and Carriss, when I'm still looking
for you, cares want to give you.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
A fucking phone. What kind of food do you have?
He's still a beetle. He was that serious. Though he
is dead. He got to say that. He just said,
he's said he has a beat, but we got we
gotta work no more.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I think apparently listen, you can't get Carris run direct
him and rock him is hard, niggas. To just reach direct,
you gotta hit the person in person, and then that person.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Has that person. Yeah, and you know they get on
ships and ship like that. Let's make some noise, you
care arrested. Goddamnit, rock him responding to that.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Ship dock and but that block in twelfth Street. You
have ron ron like we used to like when I
used out there and I used to play ball. We
used to think of rom Rn as a butch, like
he was the guy who came in then to throw
things out, right, he really made it, Like, how did
you know that from the beginning.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
I mean his father used to know, his pops was
you know, before he was on the block. His pops
used to have him out there and twenty degree whether
playing ball on the bus, this is true, and his
father knocking him down like this.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So you already knew that.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
When he did make I didn't think he was gonna
make it, But when he did make it, I was like, oh,
of course.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's kind of similar to Serena Williams and Venus Williams
and the story.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Like Romron it was made to be.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Tough, like people do think that, Like you know, he's
in the NBA and you know his pop like he's
he is a rude like nigga on that course.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
What I mean by like, you know what I'm saying,
like his.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Pops told him to be the toughest dude, Like his
past was a man's.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
And when you see him on the court when he
was doing this thing, it's not a mistake, you know
what I'm saying, you'd be like, oh, ship like people
think that he's crazy, but he's not crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
He was just made to play that way to like
and you know right.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
So now Juvenile Hell came out before Illmatic. Correct, yeah
it did it?

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Did it?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Did it? Did?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
So?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Did you? Did you see? Now I was recording Illmatic
at any point.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
By the time he was recording Illmatic, me and him
wasn't really hanging with each other no more because he
was just Columbia just grabbed him whoever he.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Was them like during the Juvenile because.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, because we were teenagers together before even Juvenile Hell
came out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
So we used to hang out and went to four together. No,
I never went to A four.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
He never went to Tour four. No Queensbrich niggas makes
no noise to tool for everybody in Queens. Nobody from
Queens was here. Assume that's a school.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Before it was the school to go to. We set
it in body in the trump Man. I went to one.
I went to twenty five. It was twenty six.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Bliss seven Nigga were talking about Holy Holy and we never.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Saw each other.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Man.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
That's crazy, That's great. Holy That's that's how I met Queensbridge.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Because I was from Ahead. Yeah, I was from Left Frack.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I got kicked out of older schools in Corona, Left
Rack East l twenty five you gotta get to twenty seven,
I sixty one. I got kicked out another school. Then
they sent me to Ridgewood. I knew I was days
preparing me for jail because there was no women in there.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I was like, yo, hold on, they said this is
a six Monday school. They gave me one more.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Chance and I had to go to I s one
twenty five forty six and Bliss from the seven.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Linety six list forty six and Bliss you get out.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
And the two niggas I met was Cayam Capone Holly
right which is Capone a cabone and LJ dude named
LJ also from twelfth Street, also for twelve twelt Street member.
Can you tell these niggas queen?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Listen, listen, I'm honorary. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
When I first met Nory and No, he was like
hanging around and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
He was almost like it was like he was from there,
like yeah, brill act like you was like from there.
He just came in. He fit in.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
You know what I'm saying or whatever whatever, But I
was locked up with twin yep, and.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Like it was credit in Lincoln and Lincoln.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Okay, swatfid yes, we're eating now latest now lad, this
is like golden sparfe.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Make some noise for your niggas. Have never been a
sad damn make lord on the crowd. Yeah, so yo, y'all.
History is so crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
So you and you and p because p Is are
originally from Long Island, y'all connected.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Queen p is from originally from from what I know,
he's from like Queens and then his grandmother lived Bi Allen.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You can't just say Queen's like left raight.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, he was from left rack from up from
because we called him pee wee like and then we.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Called and we called him that too. Okay, So he
was hold on having Here is Amanda? Here is Amanda? Here?
Where is Amanda? Can I can I get another drink
before shut out?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
We are shout out the best, you know, I told
her outside. I said I can't front. It's the first
time I said, doesn't look good. He said, you'll think
it's looking good.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
We're looking good. We got we got.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Pretty girls, the homies best yo, let's shout out the
best liquors.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Not only the liquor, but.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
They provided the females because having is here and he's
a very special guest.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
He's a classic guy.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
And they got a spotting kindle, they got a spot
another to spots and candle Laranda.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I don't want to pronounce that. That's the hood and
the rand. Yeah, yeah, that sounds like orange but.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Spanish that i'd and cut the bay and cut la bay.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
They got the liquors. So happened whenever you out by
little best Buy liquors?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Man, what's their instagram at best By liquors?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
What is at best Buy liquors? Man? Definitely looking at
it now.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
So I have man, you know so you said, y'all, yeah,
he's from originally from.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Left fright, from left fright.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
And when I met with the police, the police, this
is not it's not a force a long.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
They kept it moving. They wanted to stop. It was weird.
It was weird.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Go ahead, it was weird, and we don't have when
our friend is the first time we ever had.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Police the second time. That's oh, I wasn't here. I
was we're not faking, we're not taking last why we
had to say I did when the police pulled up.
Likes it all, likes it all. So so you guys
age when you connected. When I first met p y'all

(20:00):
didn't saying why y'all call him people? Come on, we
don't know y'all. Y'all talking like family.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
But I met him when I was fifteen. I met
him in this high school whatever whatever. He used to
have Mad Jimmy on. It was blonde, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Blonde blonde.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
You know how back in the day's Kwame used to
the streets. He had the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
He used to call him the Golden Challenge.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
But he didn't heroin with me, but he was, you know,
he was a cool ass nigga though, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
That we connected and then so when y'all met, was
it instantly like yo talk he told you, yeah he
does music, or like, how was it initially when y'all
first met?

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Like nah, because we used to be Yeah, we used
to be in the lunch room and Nigga used to
be free styling at the tables. He was one of
them free styling. I used to feast that blah blah
blah blah. And then as soon as we met, it
was like instant friends, like instant friends.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Like instant you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
And and he was rapping at the time on yah
because I heard you wrote his first rhyme or.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I mean he used to.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
He used to have his own rhymes and stuff like that.
But but you know, when we got a deal and
stuff like that, you know, I used to write and whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
He didn't need it, but take the credit. Half go ahead,
he wrote his first time. Listen, man, you won't lose it.
You keep drinking. Do you want to drink? Amanda?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Look, I'm Amanda is very pretty. She's on the podcast.
What she's some best buy liquors. You're trying to show
off for you?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Half, Yeah, we've never we never had this, We never
had this. This is the best look.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Look.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, we were pulling all the stops for you. Yeah.
Yeahs though, Man, I love this, so listen.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Fall As they just passed. How many how many borses
you paid for in your life?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
How many what she sounds like you said, Boston's bushes? Yeah,
how many of bushes I paid for in my life?
Keep it real. Now keep keep it. I say like
two was like like like I kind of disagree with you.
I gotta say answer that. I just I just heard.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
I might be in a double digits in you a.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Professional one and then you're the unprofessional one with the hangers.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
And he was like, come here, let's habit for moth.
You were like the first Wesley snipe that one, like
it was like the hip hop version.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You was knocking down a lot of a lot of
a lot of things. I mean, that's the mis back
in the days, back in the day. Let's not at
talking about nothing new. Back in the day, it was
knocking down a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, you was not saying a lot and you only
pay for two aboitions.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Listen, my experience is if you're dark skin and you're
from twelve Streets powerful, you're a freak.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
If you're darskin and you're from twelve Streets, you're a freak.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
That makes some noise for me, no one was going
on and Queen's rage. He's true. It is kind of truth.
Home from show Street.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Me.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
You got another story. That's another show would I should have?
So let's let's get you to Let's get to these rumors.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Right, A lot of people they seen this email that
came out and me and half what people don't know
before the book was.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Ro for everything. Me and you probably came out. Yes,
you came out here, you hunger me in Miami like
we were. Everything was cool for your birthday. That's right,
for the birthday party. We're gonna get back to the
birthday party. Right.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
But this this email came out they existed, right. It
was a show that happened.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
In Orlando where Okay and.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
My DJ Butch Rock a Butch Rock, the promoter hit
hit him and said, uh, it was he booked us.
I guess he sent y'all half and then he was
sending us a half and then this email comes out.
They said, Mom, Deep didn't want to do a show
if CNN is in the building.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Okay, do you believe that? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, okay, I ain't even gonna go deep, but anyway,
you know what I'm saying, I kind of heard about that.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
You heard about I kind of heard about that.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
But for the record, you definitely have nothing to do
with mam not wanting to do a show with CNN,
like and caon, Look, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say,
let me go throw it on the table.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Our word. Victor Kwan and Kayak we know each other
so disturbed by the email because I can tell it
wasn't you. I could tell I was. I know you.
I was definitely, I was definitely. Uh.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
I didn't see the email, but I heard about the situation.
I was like, yeah, what the I was like, you know, no,
reading them not coming A lot of times. Certain should
be out of my hands because I don't give a fuck.
Is if you're gonna pay me, you know what I'm saying,
I'm gonna be at the show whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
You know what I'm saying, I don't I don't care.
Who's even fucking it. I don't care. You know what
I'm saying. It's because you know, but I.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Just because I just had to want to kill that
rumor because at the end of the day, you know
nas is they alluded to the nas component. Mab deep
tall Is that not the crazy I heard that rumor,
you heard that, I heard that room and but but

(25:40):
you know what that that could reality. He was ready
to give me five hundred thousand, and I couldn't get
in contact with y'allie.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
At one point that's my work. You don now now.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like it was like, yo, you I mean I hate ice.
I hate ice, right, yeah, I hate I me that fact.
Let's make some not here to have but but like
you know, because this is real ship because us when
we live in this internet world. That's why I got

(26:14):
to really respect you for this. You know what I'm
saying for you taking your time out and obviously you
here to dead that room, but you're here to say that.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yo, listen. And he reached out, and he reached out,
not even.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Me.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I was like, and I hit him. My dude, I
really hit you first.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Then I hit him and then I was like, I
gotta have you on the show.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yes, I really really really respect that move. So I
just wanted the people to know that for people who
think there's a mob d uh component or Riega beef,
there is not. I mean, there was, there was, there
was whatever back then.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
But to keep to keep it real, to keep it
real is like, okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Old families and crews have a little friction going on,
know whatever, but it's nothing that never can't get fixed.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
What I'm saying like, whatever, let me salute your glass
for that solution your glass for that looking I have
it came man, I.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Ain't gonna lie. I am mad impressed that he make some.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm a little scared of your question, but I said,
you know what, fuck it because you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
See people. People forget about the picture.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
When when I was in New Rochelle and you came,
you question, you ain't you ain't send me this record?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Who did I come with? Who come with? Don't mind?
You can't know it.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Came a security a top small move, small move. You
can't make some noise in security. Don't know you Big Tim.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I don't know if I just seeing a lot of
nigga videos. I was like, I got to bring somebody
with him. Big Tim. Okay, big a big Tim for flushing.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
So now, I mean, you don't know how much I
respect that because this room will need to be the rest.
And I feel like me you nas mob deep Compona
over Jega. I feel like that's something that we should
do because we're not like fake friends, like I really
know you, you really know me, I really.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Know Prodigy, really know me. You really know Kanyen like
I know him and p Ship.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
But listen, Copone is not going to do nothing, not
like I'm the bosster capone. But that's over, like Prodigy
put that ship to the side and let's start over.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
But even he was respecting, and Bone said, he said,
he just wanted to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
And listen, I have been tray attention because if.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
We said any mob beep slander, you wouldn't have came
here and you.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Would have known about it. There's no momp slander. And
we talk in anytime. When you know what I'm saying,
I see you, you know on.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
One if our boys was yeah, be saying sh I
always take it in a playful man like.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I see, here's the deal. Let me just get you
to the point.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Prodigy was my man like me, and you hung out
a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
But me and p just you know, when I found
out his left rack tie, I kind.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Of, you know, took a liking to him, right, and
you know what I mean. And me and Pe hung
out so much so the book threw me off. I'm
gonna be honest, this is me. My point is I
didn't read the book.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I know.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I've never seen you big up the book or nothing
like that. But we'll get to that later.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Right. So the book comes out.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I kind of took it as a just a little
disrespect because I felt like I would never speak about
that situation. I never made records about that situ shooting yeah, shooting. Yeah,
I didn't shoot that. You have you know what I'm saying,
Like that.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Day, like.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
I was in the studio, in the studio.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
It was.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
But what I'm saying is like, no, no, I purposely
would never shoot off havoc or proud of me, that's
my word.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
But I was soon other name. They dropped me, the club,
they dropped me, but I never spoke about it. I
never got money off of it. So for him to
put it in the book.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
And at the end of the day, if you throw
my name in there, you the thing about it is
it's gonna go off, but you gotta you can't control
where it lands. You might throw it up and just want.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
To catch it. Like at that time, I was sitting back,
I was like, nah, I'm not I'm not letting this go.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And and just I'm gonna tell my side of the story.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Ship. Do you think I took it too far when
I was going at him, going at who prodigy? I mean,
you got you your own man. You gotta do what
you gotta do. I like your as goddamn the long
Side officially drink child.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah but nah, but you know when when all that
ship was going down like crazy ship, It's like, come on, man,
that shit was like what twenty years ago?

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, definitely, man, definitely, And I would never wanted to
disrespect people like you know, Karate Joe.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You know that's why I never made a rap about that.
I never did. It was the first time it was
brought up in the public. That's the first time. And
I'm gonna keep it real.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I spoke to p and he said, yo, I got
you in the book, but it was no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
So I was like, all right, cool, So I'm looking
forward to the ship.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Then the ship hits me from the background and I'm like, damn,
So if you use my name, I got a choice
to like it or not like it. I didn't like it,
so I had a choice, and I responded the way
I did. But it was all in jokes. It was
all in fun. And I'm glad that you came here.
I'm glad you because you know what, out of out
of out of us component Noriega and mob D. I'm

(31:44):
gonna give you be the bravest one to come through
and step forward and put this rumor to a motherfucking wreck, because.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You could have been any place in the world.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Tonight, of course, but you chose to be here tonight.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
And I don't want to say, man the.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Fucking we're gonna get this money?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
And mind you, when he hit us up, when he
hit at least the Dream Champions Instagram, he didn't. He
didn't hit us up to be on the show. He
was just saying, yo, y'all. Do you think like he
was just showing up?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hum? I really?

Speaker 4 (32:19):
So you had a new project, right, let's talk about
this new project. Let's put that in front of your face.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Right. Alchemists? How did y'all meet Alchemists? They met Alchemist
and then I met him later? Whose day?

Speaker 5 (32:31):
People in college fall? Okay, you know what I mean?
And the niggas they met, They met Alchemist and then
I met him later and I was like, ship the niggas,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
So I knew him ever since?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
And then how then and what's what's the first beat
y'all collaborated on?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
You on alchemyst me.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
And him ship Man, we've been working for a minute now, But.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
We never really collaborated on them beats. We never. We
never is either him producing for y'all. Nah.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
He yeah, like he did Ship, like since like what
ninety nine and two thousand and Song started doing stuff
for us and stuff like that, So you know, I
was I took a liking to him, and I was like,
you know, I don't be you know, I'm not like
a hog over the.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Beats and ship.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
I was like, oh shit, you got the nigga to
do beats, Come on and do some pieces, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And he happened to just be nice. Yes he did. Indeed,
let's make some noise for tragedy man. Where does that
name come from?

Speaker 5 (33:30):
What I met trash back in eighty eight when he
first came home. I guess he was locked up for
like three years for a year, Trash Cada or whatever.
That's yeah, that's like my mentor you know what I mean.
He used to bring me the w b LS and
all these other little stations and stuff like that to
Marty mar House and I didn't have a rap name,

(33:50):
and I was like, yo, you know, I don't got
a rap name. And he was like, I'm gonna give
you one of my names. So his name was Havoc trash, tragedy, tragic,
and then.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
He just gave me wow, And what year was this?
Eighty eight? Wow, nineteen eighty eight. We opened it up
to rock makes some noise for Amanda being a boy.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
That's being So, what was your most memorable session you
ever had?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
My most memorable session that I ever had being in
the studio. The most memorable session that I ever had
been in the studio was when we was working on
Hello NERF.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And I got there first to the studio. P came second.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
He had just bought a new car, tie hoe or
something like that, and then he let the rest of
them go get some trees. And then maybe a half
an hour later, an hour later, we found out that
some of the crew got into a car accident and
two of them died.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
I know that you're talking about twin god bless that
when Godfather was driving.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, he was driving. So what session was that?

Speaker 5 (34:58):
What's what music he was and then was doing? We
were doing Hell on Earth. He was doing the Hell
on Earth album. And so that's the most memorable session
that I ever had. Like, you know, that's good memorable, No,
it's I mean, but it's memorable at least, you know.
And then Prodigy had to warrant and the police was
calling his phone.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
He was like, yo, should should I answer that?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I was like, nigga man, because Godfather already called us and.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Said, yo, man, Niggas is hurt. Niggas is hurt. And
then the police is calling next. Now they hear it.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Godfather was like the only one, like who didn't it
have no cuts nothing, and everybody else it's always the driver.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
It's like, always be the one that don't really obtain
any injuries. But two people died and two others were
like critically injured, but they lived.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
And did I hear a room more correct? Like it
was like they hit they hit a cone?

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Was it? You know when you're on the West Side Highway, Yeah,
and you're driving and you're driving uptown and you're getting off,
got that little divided that's like only this big, you
know what I mean. So if you miss an exit,
but you're trying to get that going and you're doing
seventy miles.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Per hour, the cargo over right, So that's what happened.
Damn God, bless man. Yeah, God, I remember that time, man,
So that was definitely one of the most memory studio
I remember that time twelve Street.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
And another and another memorable moment no no, but another
memorable one was when we was working on Murder music
and we was in an Electric Lady right there on
West Eighth or something like that, and then I came
back and one of my.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Homebanes like in Princes out there.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I was like, get there, So he went and got.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
You want to tell me you met Prince? Yes, yeah,
I've never been in the vicinity of word.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah, that's how I feel about Michael Jackson. So anyway,
so we in the studio and one of my homeboys was.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Like, yo, Princes out there. I was like, get the
funk out of here. He was like, hell yeah, I
bring that in the game.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
He mad cool, he fucking brought Prince in the stow.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I'm about this elect Lady. Remember this is Jimmy Hendrix. Now,
I'm about this tour. I'm about this tour whatever. Prince
is like this and he did. He just know. He
just had what he fl on hills.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I was making I was, I was making the beat,
and then I was like, holy.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ship, Prince like he just hung out at that point.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, I was like, Yo, is it anything I need
to do to the beat? Because he he was like,
hold on.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
The nigga got on the keyboard, swear to God on
the record though he was that cool Yo, your beat?

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Yes, and then the beat and then doing the beat,
and this record came out. They came up, what record is?
It's called Dallas now killed listen to it?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh my god. Principle. They probably walked away and said,
don't give me credit? How he play the key.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
The nigga walked down, didn't even say bye, how about
that credits?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
He was like a lot.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I'm like a way because producers lived the LS life,
like producers.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Lived in LUs life. Let's just keep it. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
No producers lived the life right, I mean, because you
guys not only get to make your own project, but
you get to go out there like with with the Big.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You wasn't there when Big laid the vocals?

Speaker 8 (38:47):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I wasn't there with Big? Who was you there? Like
they've blown you away, that laid your vocal laid they
vocals on one of your beats. Luluke, Kim and Foxy
together No no, no, no witness record that No. But I
saw them each time.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
You know what I'm saying, Like when I was gonna
go Foxy, I seen her like her vocals, and then
I've seen a little kimble HUDs, so it was kind
of dope.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Now we did l A l A right, Yeah, now
we did that together?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Ye did? They only went at y'all? Was y'all ever
mad at us for that?

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Like was originally a mob deep record?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
The original white label said Mob Deep. No, that's because
somebody who originally that.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Was they record, and they asked us to get on
it exactly, and he was like, we could have been like.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Very verse. The imitations of the West Coast, all the slang,
who's doing that? The intro? Y'all? I don't because look,
this is this is how I remember it. You tell
me you remember it dark.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
I'm happened to be in Queensbridge just hanging out, like
I love twelfth Street. That was I felt like I
was a twelve Street nigga.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'm from fifty seven hours.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I'm an honorary twelth Street maker, right okay, boom, So
we out there and then Stretched Armstrong is doing this
bad boy mixtape. You remember you remember it was the
bad Boy Mistakes.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I don't remember, but yeah, this is this is what
is originally for.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
So so it was a freestyle in a sense and
in the sense it was a freestyle. So that day
a dude named Jazz from my hood. I remember. He
was the flyest nigga from my hood, but he was
the craziest nigger.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Right.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
So, so Jazz is outside like he confused. He playing
me New York, New York. He's like, yo, you think
they this and us? So I'm like, I don't know.
I go to Queensbridge right to meet up. We happened to,
you know, be there and Stretched Armstrong calls and says,
let's come to the studio.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
So I you had I think you had the turquoise
blazer's yes, I did. Yeah, was a little good. You
had a turqoise blazer.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
That that that listens in case y'all thinking of a blazer.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Now, back then, a blazer was like a fucking caddy.
This guy's got a memory of I can't tell you
what happened yesterday, but I can tell you I come up.
I remember this year.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
So everybody we met at Stretched Armstrong's crib, and I
think back then, having had already gave us beats. But
we ain't putting nothing now but the originals on the
original dog Pound beat.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So this is what happened, I asked us, Stretched back. Yeah,
we had, I think we had already did so no no, no,
no no no. So what happened is this is L
A L A. So what happened?

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Stretched, I said to Stretch, Yo, I remember Chad had
just played me there. So I asked him he was
on something called a DJ list back then, back in
the days, you could send somebody a record and two
months in event answer and your ship wouldn't be bootlegs.
You know what I'm saying, Because if he was on
the DJ list, it was just in the So I
asked Stress to pull it up.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
We heard New York, New York.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
We couldn't determine if they were dissing us or not,
so technically we didn't diss them.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
We just rhymed correct them.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I always discord because I always thought but I remember
it was Prodigy's verse.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
They took it because he said he said JFK on
our way to L A.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
M.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
And remember remember, and then he used that on y'all
album later. But the original L A L A were
all five of us. Prodigy said, n y C you
and our verse supremacy havoc in pre Queen's niggas. So
it seemed to be Mega got word back from Norwega.
And that was on the original L A l A Boom.

(42:55):
I'm gonna break it down. He did that on right
hold on somewhere else versus somewhere else, but it was
originally on L A L A. He took it off.
And when he took it off, remember were calling Steve Riffins.
Steve Richiam was like, no, he doesn't want to be
a part of this.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
You can't. Yeah, you you didn't. You didn't even.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
You stayed a part of it. Makes But from what
I heard, now I never heard this from Prodigy or
or Steve Rifkin myself, but from what I heard, Steve
Riffers said Prodigy didn't want to do it. And then
the verse came off the week that the day that
we shot the video is the day it came out.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
And you was only supposed to come to.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
The video and then Prodigy showed us and he was
like that in the video.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
That's right, that's right, because it was so he just
reversed in the video.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
No, no, no, It's like he was just like l
A l A Big city, right right.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
It was, but you say it wasn't a distract who
said that? No?

Speaker 4 (43:59):
No, no, But then because that intro was this no yeah,
yeah yeah, that was replaced, but we heard it.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
We all heard it. But then then that sounded like
live nigga rat that was it. Then he that's when
he used that verse. That's when he used that verse
originally l A l A.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
And then here's my question, is Tupac came at y'all.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You know this is my record? Did you have at
one point when it's be like niggas? Yeah? Question, But
I didn't give because I was like, because what did
y'all do? What was the record?

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I loved the record, it just dropped it too late
when you went back and dropped a gym on.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
But I didn't kid because I was like, Yo, this nigga, Tupac,
the nigga from Juice, you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Saying, like saying that name. So I was like, give
a fuck, Like who gives the fuck?

Speaker 5 (44:54):
You know what I'm saying because we got like a
hundred queens.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
We would kill you. But I love But did you.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
At the time did you realize how beef that I mean,
how big that moment was, Like like it was, it
was huge, Like for Tupac to dis you, it's like
you you go platinum or something like.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I'm gonna keep it red. That's how I think it was.
It was hard for the original, but I wanted to.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
I was like, but then I thought about it.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I said, I was super broken at that moment, so
I couldn't afford no Tupac beef. But they came as
a fact, my nigga. Like at one point on one arm,
I was mad that he just.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
In another arm, I was like, holy ship, white my sweat.
And when I went back, I didn't give up.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
He didn't give and we did drop a gym on
crazy because because I always thought that, like even if
we did see each other, it was gonna be like whatever,
it was going to be the real ship, you know
what I mean. We come from the hood, so the
real ship is in the hood, and these other niggas
is just rappids.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
So you know this is real ship, right, This is
real ship.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
You know, the fans and the people wanted to notice
L A L A story, this is dope.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Like YO Radio when that l A l A Ship
was out. Believe we was going to l A under
aliases like we couldn't just because Biggie got kid.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I remember this time, that's true at this time. What's
the chronological order of that though? So when l A
A came out? What years at ninety six? Right, and
Biggie had died when ninety six? No no, not Google, Google.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Because big with that record now.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Diverse that Biggie died. Oh no, no, no, we need
the Googles.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
So this is way before Biggole when Biggie and Park died.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Right, yeah, bigger head test for sure. It was in
ninety seven. Yeah all right, it was six months later. Yeah,
so it's still ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
But still would you say you win the alias names?

Speaker 5 (47:09):
All I know is I remember like when all of that,
when all of that stuff was going down, which was
crazy with.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
It was the East Coast West Coast beef.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Somebody probably didn't even fucking die yet, understand what I'm saying.
So when they did die, you understand it was it
was like, okay, bulletproof cause names under aliases. But California
is a market that you have to be in to
sell records.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It's like a huge.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Market, and it's one of our number one markets to
this day. You understand what I'm saying, and I'm sure
you can agree.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, I love California. I'm out there. August twenty seven.
I got it. I got a crib a out this. Yeah,
it's like, you know, make some noise for having.

Speaker 9 (47:50):
Floss, having your old school nigga.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I just seen you have a time you havenot rolled
up in a yellow calf. Let's make some noise for
that York you.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Got to.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
That's some old school ship because that's because my Uber
account was compromised the way you know, So when I
use my Uber, somebody knows.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You have to explain this because I want to watch
out for this. I don't even want to explain it.
I use the Uber. Somebody knows I'm using it on computers.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
One day, one time you got tapped, right, they said
that you said ship like you're not good with computers.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
You need to give the original.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
That's that's the segmate's like you ain't suing up with.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah, those messalists true. Like, let's just keep it real.
Let's just go see the messages I send the compone ship.
It's so good it's the same ship. It might not.
You went a little too far. I did call them,
and you went a little too far.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
I don't even want to relive that moment, but I was.
I was out of my mind that listen.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Why I didn't mean it. I totally understood that ship. Listen,
I know, but I didn't mean to understand it. But
I didn't mean it. I said, listen, if you can see.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
This ship that we say to each other, like like
when in the middle of an argument, there's no respect.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You come back later and be like, yo, my bad man.
Of course we fight, we fight, we fight dirty.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
How many fights you and p I keep it? I
wanted to I want to just throw that out there.
Was just throw that out there, said, who wins in
a fight?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Un I'm always gonna win against any Yes, Vegas. Of course,
my security is like to the cows about your brother.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Security can't be involved with your brother anyway.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
You snuffed them in Vegas, right, that's definitely a that's
definitely a lot of hurt. But yeah, now I gotta ask.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
You know, people hit me up on the DMS like
I got you know, I got a job, your m
stuff like, yeah, on my Instagram.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
My DM is getting scary on my Instagram. I'm searched
because like checking out, there's two different d ms.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Right, there's one thing only from people who follow you,
and there is DM people. Oh those niggas is the
shoke up on the computer to ha, listen, look, let
me ye them niggas is foul.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Let's be asking me weird ship? Yeah, I don't know
about those. Where was we at?

Speaker 6 (50:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Okay? I forgot you want me a ponem for one time?
That's like I forgot God make a poem for one time.
He's in Japan. In Japan? Did I say this story?

Speaker 4 (50:56):
I said it in front of him, and I said
I wanted say in front of him. Yeah, I did
episode the idea he was.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Oh yeah, he was there. He wasn't really there. He
wasn't really there, so he was not Me and copone.
We spoke about it on the podcast what was your
worst fight? Like you and our worst fight?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Because partner's gotta fight. That's how you know the relationship
is real. Like if you ain't snuffed your nigga one time.
By that niggas don't know each other.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
That's we're real.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
We gotta just like I'm talking about like when you
got twenty years together.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
My dog's twenty something. Yeah, yeah, because you.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Know I mean when money is involved, I'm talking about money, million, money.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Not to snuff your nigga want to tie snuffed me.
I'm gonna give you. We never had a fight. We
don't have half. You know the breakfast club.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
You're not doing you really didn't never have a fight. No,
but yeah, don't believe you.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
Yeah, but you did cat close to compone snuffed me.
We can't close and was never never put my hands
up here.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Because listen, I know you're lying. It's okay, and that's
a great thing. That's a great thing.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I'm gonna tell you when you had to fight with him,
when when it came home from jail, that's the same
time I had to fight with.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Capon with them niggas come home from jail. This is
what we fucked up, right, me and you.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
You gotta leave a nigga three months after the nigga
come home from jail, the nigga still smell like core Craft.
So you gotta leave him alone for three months. We
try to hold these niggas down, and we came on
and then you gotta fuck them up.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Let's just keep it real. Come on, have it. We
heard you beat up before. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's
a joke. Drink retarded over, I don't know. I ain't
gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
I think copone is the only draw I had, like
it was a draw, like he snuffed me though.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
First, this is a fact.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
It came from jail and it's still being them, like
it's still be in, still be You gotta slam them
when they.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Had you gotta slam on it. I've seen do some
foul ship right after you came out of jail.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
I don't listen, Yes, yes, d D twelve we see elevators,
doesn't running twelfth Street?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Is this make some noise in twelfth set water?

Speaker 4 (53:25):
You know, I am so proud that you came through
it because you know, this is all this ship is
jokes and laughs. You know what I'm saying, Like the people,
you're a legend, man, my dude, like you've done so
much historical monumental ship and we've done it, you know
what I'm saying, seeing each other grow and I just
I just the reason why we joking and laughing is
I want people to know because at the end of

(53:46):
the day, I can't interview somebody at Drink Champs who
don't want to do Drink Champs, Like I can't.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I can't, I can't, I can't. But you're about to
start getting a lot of interviews.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Like no, I mean is ringing, Like, but we stopped
at thing for you and we got guess what we
also we got what that should call bar? Bar?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
What is it called bartenders? A bartender? We got a
bar and you're man forgot Like I wanted to make sure.
I want to say the guy what is it? Because
it's bartender? We have we have a bartender. We have
what's the guy version of bartenders? The same the bartender.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I think that hip hop should have our own race.
Do you think I'm retarding own race?

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Who said that in the last episode? Like I think
our own race? Like I feel like you should check,
like hip hop is a race, like hip hop is
a race. Like I feel like like white black hip
hop like hip hop yep.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Like I feel like like the W Hotel is my
favorite hotel, right, that's my favorite hotel. Right, And in
the W Hotel, whatever W Hotel you got, you got
the gay flag out there.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I don't care. I'm good, but I wanted to hit
my flag. What's like, I don't know. Let me make
a hip hop flare. You want to make it? We
want to you on the drink him. Yes, your start
a contest.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Somebody didn't make the hip hop flause.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You know how they got the Jordan thing like that?
It should be like a hip hop flash. Yeah, like
I am with that, like a contest.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
And then because just think about it, hold On told
you to open the roseator.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
we go say that afterwards, hold on. Everybody else is
saying no, no, nobody else, no, no, no. We listened
to tell you that my man was man hold on
because we be staying right here. But listen that listen.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
This is real ship, right okay, Like like we should
have responsibility of putting people in office.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Like I told Tyler Qualley.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
He came here and he was speaking all this ship,
you know, great ship about how we reform and great show.
But I said, you should run for either mayor or
Brooklyn Council counselm like the or the mayor of Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
You know, this is what I'm trying to do. I
think he was down to do it. But ma fam
Mississippi or l A.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
This is you know what, when niggas be running for office,
a lot of skeletons start coming out.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Donald Trump respect, he's like he's changing that. Listen. He
might be fucking around to be the next press. He's saint.
And look look, so you're telling me. You're telling me
that the ship that Donald Trump do right, but he's white.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
But he's white, but ship, he was like, it's like
a smack.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
He turned politics into a freestyle battle.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
So what I'm saying is that's why we can't win
under being black people, but we could win under.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Being hip hop. You understand what I'm saying, Like, we
have people registered as a hip hopper party. Make up
your mind. Is it a race or a party? It's both.
Look listen, I'm the guy. Yeah why not man like
they alay.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
But what I'm saying is we can actually turn the
world around if if hip hop.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Is the world right now. Yeah, but we don't culture power.
We could if we network everybody. That's what I'm saying.
Never work everybody.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
You don't need to have meetings, but you registered under
hip hop, so you could be any fucking nationality, and that's.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Part that's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
I'm just I'm saying I'm with I'm with both of
those because let's just say, let's just say, man, like,
you know, hip hop is crazy, Like you have brothers
like Screwball from Queensbreak, you know what I'm saying, legends,
and one of them passed away?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Right, how many of the two of them passed away?
I want school one of them?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Yeah, So why wouldn't hip hop come like like it
shouldn't be mab Deep's responsibility, it should be hip hop
responsible reality when a person has dedicated their life to
this culture.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And this thing, like we should have insurance policies for ourselves.
This is even bigger than that. Do you agree with that? Like, like,
if you're an actor of this sag this all this ship,
you ain't got ship for hip hop? Nigga you legs?
I would love I would love to agree with you.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
But it's all just about getting fucking insurance period as
a human being, as a person individually, what I'm saying,
because motherfuckers be dying and leaving their family with the bill,
you know what I'm saying, and ship like that when they.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Could just get life insurance.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
And life insurance is available for anybody, and it don't
cost that much.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
It's true, but you're a part of a legendary group.
You're gonna get money for the rest of your life.
What about people who dedicated their life to this game
and can't get another dollar off this game, but they
spent every dollar they did.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Give an example, Give an example, because like you can have.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Like a sporty deed, like a school ball, like a
cool hurt like cool Pioneers and les.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
If Cool Hurk is sick, that was how. That's originally
how even j Z was a part of that movement.
I think originally is that Cool Hurk and Africa bought
and all of them shouldn't have some kind of Yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
If you're a sports agent and you get fucked up,
there's something to protect you right now, if you portray.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
If you're a sports agent, then you make it bread
to get health insurance and life insurance, right you know
what I'm saying. If you're in the hood, if you're
fucking stupid enough not to get Medicaid, then you fucking
just stupid enough not to get.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
But you don't feel like people who dedicated it like
at the end of the day, you're talking about rappers,
and I think when you said when they made it,
of course there's not an organization for people to put
their money in at the very least right for hip hop.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
But at the same time, when you do make money,
you shouldn't just spend it on jewelry and cars and
all this ship and expect me to feel sorry for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
You ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
So is that is that the culture's responsibility too, because
we're teaching that too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
It's not the culture is your responsibility a person.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
But if the culture is teaching that to the youth
that doesn't know any better than they grow up in that,
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
It's just not really teaching that because they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Like we shouldn't be like boxing, Like you know, in boxing,
there's no hos bar. You just get your money and
that's it. But every other sport they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Have like you know, unions and they have ship, Like
hip hop shouldn't be like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
If when I do a movie, I sign up these
motherfuckers pay me for as long as this movie is
being paid play, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
I'm saying, Like that ship is real ship?

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Like Like why hip hop can't do that so, and
then we have a union where we we we take
a percentage out and union is definitely that's okay. He
gets some real into the union, hundred thousand dollars. None
of us got to come out of our pocket because.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
We've been paying. Okay, but think about it, think about it,
think about it, but think about it. But think about it.

Speaker 10 (01:01:10):
What about when you start running into lazy rappers, you
got to paint it qualify like yeah, okay, all right,
so you're not gonna have no hip hop is on
hip hop welfare.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I mean it's like sad when he said sack that
made sense. Well, I don't understand what hip hop breaking
because it would.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Become welfare because somebody will be like, I'm a rapper
just to get benefits.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Winning at work, you gotta put it. It's like it's
like a ship. What's what's like a pinsion? No, you
gotta show your work? Yeah, like you know how you
like publish it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Like like if you work for twenty years, I guess
a picture, you get a pinsion at the end of
your job, correct, Like if you work for somewhere, what
a pension?

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Nigga? I know a picture? I'm like, no, a pinsion.
Nobody know what I'm talking about. Niggas like, yeah, but
I know that I watched the King of Queens and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
King of Queens, don't he gets a pinson at the
he worked for ups and and that's what happens in
real life.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
But you know what why hip hop it's not realistic
because there's too many fucking rappers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
No, but I'm saying, you gotta put it in that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
You gotta put it in your work, and you gotta
buy into But what's work, you gotta buy into it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Though you ain't making money, you ain't gonna buy into ship.
That's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
And like publishing, if your if your record ain't doing nothing,
publish ain't gonna pay. So we got to system.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
How about when you make money just by yourself, some
healthcare that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
But but what I'm saying is what about the niggas
like God blessed, like like O D B or d MX.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
They ain't going to get no healthcare. Those are my niggas,
that's they God bless them that we're here back before
it got to where it got like a cool hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Do you not think that maybe someone like a cool
hurt deserve something back from the culture.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Do we deserve something back from the culture, of course,
being that the culture was built on his back. Definitely,
definitely yes.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
But he's there before an infrastructure, before the infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Before industry was invested in hip hop, before anybody even
believed in hip hop as a viable means.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Yeah, but if you get somewhere with you know what
I'm saying, before the infrastructure, then you know, what can
I say?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
What can I say? But anyway, let's get onto.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Sorry I was getting political because that's something that really
is close to my heart. It's like if you put
it in twenty years of work, anybody put in twenty
years of work, and you know, some people do not
know how to reinvent theyselves. Some people don't know how
to produce beats. Some people don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
How to do a podcast, some people don't know how
to DJ. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
What happens like, you know, you look at the NBA,
these guys stop stop playing for the NBA, and they
have options like as a rapper, why can't we retire
and say I put it in that work, I paid
my insurance, I want my insurance back and you get
you get a nice slump sum, you get to go

(01:04:21):
to Barbados and Chase Chick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
You look like beyond the work. Before that would happen,
he said, you can't just be because you know what
it happened. This is what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
When you start thinking like that, when you go okay,
when you become a rapper, you join it to this thing,
and then you're gonna get healthcare. It's just gonna drive
the prices down when you go to perform. If you
was gonna get paid five thousand dollars, now you're only
gonna get paid two hundred dollars. If everybody is getting
into this system. So it's a capitalistic market. You understand

(01:04:51):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
And it's a free market. You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
So if you want to put restrictions on it and regulations,
then cool. But next time you go to Russia or
Switzerland to do a show, they're only going to give
you two hundred dollars. No, that's what's gonna happen if
you make it assistance.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
I don't see how that would happen, though it will
happen if it's a system if it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
He's saying something more. We took dream Champs to a
whole like this, it's different. Want another drink.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Because it's like you see dash like dash, like Das
did all these amazing records, and that's retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Is his bud ship. Yeah, it's royalty, but like you did,
it's publishing. Crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Ubers gotta be crazy like this and and this. Just
think about it. You're blessed. There's people who is not
right and whose fault is that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I don't know. I'm asking I don't think it should
be over there up what I'm saying. The records ain't good.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
The concept, the concept sounds good, but once you do
the concept, it's going to drive prices down for the
rest of the people that's trying to get paid.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
And it's not gonna be a free market normal. But
this is paid right. They getting paid less. But we
uh rely on publishing. You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
So I don't give a fuck what you give me
a front because I'm having them living and got my house.
I don't care what you give me the front. Give
me seventy five percent of the publisher. I'm more happier
with that because that's gonna last longer and then my.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Kids could get that because this is for my kids. Now,
you know what I'm saying, in turn is doing what
we're talking about in the sense pretty much but not directly.
You understand what I'm saying. But it's a good concept
hip hop insurance and this, that and the third. But
it is just drive prices down and people away from
the business. Okay, let's get back dump. Now I tell

(01:06:57):
you my favorite I'm that that the girl who man
she paid to the listen. Then I tell you my
favorite habit rhyme I ever say that?

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Just now, let's go on the on the infamous album
you said, I keep it real packed still like my nigga,
Why g come on say the rhyme with the food.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Try to play me with them up. Then I'm sways
forever forever wild. Then come on, you know your ship.
Come on, you don't do that. It's my favorite wrong
I ever.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Dig forever wild in this out live put in the bridge.
You must say skin cot pack the guy to hit
the nigga like a big twenty five. Now I can't
getting life forever burning in hell niggas, trye it's the
sei yo.

Speaker 11 (01:07:47):
You could figure on yo, I'm pulling it down, stripping
niggas just like a poor click simroro thick pass click
nigget the bullship that I was Raisya.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Slept little stage.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
I have a crime and death plays in post to
alcohol walk before you crawl, amend this the winness. You're
gonna take a full the infamous Queen's rig. You want
to see it get creeping on those of capt sleeping
and then never do that. I'm rover with two max
a plus for crew bats, maf you move, I choose
give them fool blues. I'm opening off the daily or

(01:08:24):
baby or gets frayed with the sweeper because I'm a
brother's keeper. The grimd Reaper rolling with nothing but big
battest and big chenus. Blow your three time you mark
chicken O.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
How to fit you, pretty boy? Nigga's front Hard is
the issue word to my own boy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
You get folded, oh then molded when I get advent
you every rhyme, it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Tell the must get draws, put your ragged on your back,
take it to the sauce in it and it can't
get up.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
This likefestyle the forty first side get the Run Wild,
the forty first side to you know how to do violated,
motherfuck God. To see you with the Linden, it's the
start of you and setting it again and again.

Speaker 12 (01:09:11):
Make that that rhyme is so powerful that when I
met y g alright, I met the nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
He said, Yo, I met him for two seconds. He said,
it's a little rough. Whatever you want what I said, Yo,
that's what my nigga like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Listen, man, I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
I hated these rumors about us because if there wasn't
no marb Deep, there wouldn't have been no seeing that.
And if we never said that, I'm gonna say it
in front your face. I'm gonna say it in front
of everybody. We one percent. You paved the way for us,
no doubt. I've paid the way for y'all. Y'all paved

(01:10:05):
the way for us. And this is how life is
supposed to be. He's supposed to get money for the
rest of all life and be old niggas and drinking
Tito's vodka. Goddamn podcast getting drinks from a chick name Amanda.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Shi It is live. That's not too bad. You know
what I'm saying it's not too bad. Complain right now.
I can't complain. But yo, man, yeah that ship. You know,
you got your new album and we've totally forgotten. Come
on camera right over here, right you can take the
whole time. You can do a commercial right now. This

(01:10:43):
is not a first week album.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
This is one of the albums that you grinded out
for a lot of weeks right here. And it's called
The Solid Partner, you know what I mean. And uh,
it's produced by the Alchemists.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
And stuff like that, the whole whole Roger, Yeah, he
did the whole If you look at it looked like
a jazz album. Let but you know, I don't give girl,
We're gonna have Alchemist.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
I'm having one another one. We're not letting it leaves.
Oh thank you baby, You're not let have it leave yet.
Albums done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
You heard it, Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now
Now what's left? What's what's left for you? Like, like,
oh man, it's so much, it's so much going on.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
I just wrote a screenplate, you know what I'm saying,
entitled Black Sheep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You know what I'm saying. The movie that I'm about
to put out.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Roughly, it's about a black kid that was raised by
a Mexican family. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Since he was a tied. I told you this design,
design is real. You gotta you gotta be rich or
smart to me living in Cali. Me living in Cali
and just being out there and just checking it out.
You know what I'm saying. It's all good. But my
next movie it's called Killer Black, which is more bro.

(01:12:02):
You know what I'm saying. Brother, right, Yeah, it's gonna
be you. My brother he was, he was. He was
the realist nigga like you do. My brother. Yeah, he
was a great guy, great.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
You know, and I you know, imagine you know, and
that's my brother. He's not here right now. So I
got a movie loosely based on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Him that I wrote. And it's not just bullshit like
you know, hood Fligs or whatever. Let's get to it.
Did you did you agree with Prodigies book? Like, let's
just be like to read it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
No, no, no, no, I'm gonna be honest with you,
and I'm gonna say it again. I didn't read it,
and the little things that I did read, I didn't
agree with it, but I respected it because that was his.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Story point of view. You know, that was his point
of view.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
So I was okay, cool, And you know, me and
Prodigy is around each other twenty four seven, seven days
a week, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
So you know, his life yours your life, right right?
So would you ever write a book like that? And
like what I like? Because I assume.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
If I would have wrote a book like that, I
would have wrote it. But now that he wrote a
book like that, I won't write one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
So you write the movie. You write the movie. You know,
it's whatever. Your brother.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Your brother's a queen's legend, not only a queen's bridge
leg He was like one of the realists of the realist.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Now's your older brother or your younger brother. He's my
younger brother.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
He's my little brother, your little brother. Wow, God bless man,
God bless you my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
But yeah, you know, so, my lad.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
The next screenplay that I wrote, it's called you know,
Killer Black, and it's loosely based.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Thing my brother story. You know you brother before. It's
not going to be like a shooting number man, shoot.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
Him up bank bank type of film, but it's going
to really get inside the depths of you know my
crib and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You know what I mean, what was going on?

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Nah, no block, I'm just saying your block was was
I'm a time, we got love. We know whatever we
want because my fucking bladder is about the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
But everybody got to show. This is the way we
kind of show. Maybe we don't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Yeah five we can do like five more minutes, can
come back ye yeah yeah but yeah smoking yeah yeah,
we can do like five ten more minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
It's a beautiful ding. It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I learned that from Volley. I was like, I learned
that from was like and we thought about this years
ago Charlamagne. Charlemagne told me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
He said he came on off ship and he said, yo,
see I can't say no to y'all because y'all did
drink Champs and y'all actually have drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
He said, the breakfast club never have breakfast. I was like, oh,
the concept we have forever face and they took it.
Just took us a while to get off the ground.
And we take it. We all, we all, that's who
thought of that, both of us.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
This is a conceptual for real, well drink me and
this nigga used to hang out, right, this is how
to drink Champs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
In my mind, you got a totally different story, and
it's fucking great have a different story.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
No, that's just in my mind, because in my mind,
we used to we used to hang out. I used
to recording, Yeah, the studio. I used to record, and
he used to play poker. If if you record records
and play poker, it's pretty much like the same time.
Like it's long as fucking half. Right, So he would
be out there with a big ass bottle of a card.
He look, this one had this religiously, and I'll be

(01:15:40):
out there with a big ass bottle or like either
drinking nor it wasn't a rock back then you're drinking
something different.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Look he loves good to the people. Can do. Man,
you came down south and you left no love, but
were gonna give KND give your love. Let's give Kim
do love in South Miami. It's real. It's like Long
Island in Miami. Not really like a little bit. They

(01:16:13):
even got homesteady. You were telling them how we how
we started drinking Champs. Oh, yes, your story.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Yeah, so you would drink the Bacardi I would drink
the great goofs and then we were we were both finished,
so we both felt like, oh, all right, a chance,
good champ, and then we initiated static selector.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
First, no, no, but you're going way ahead of the story.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Mad friends, we get them drinks Netflix, Mad friends, Oh,
mad friends, okay, because we have mad people in the
studio and they all trying to drink with us.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
So you had young cats trying to drink older cats.
They can't hang. No, I don't do hairing no more.
And one of the niggas pissed in the cooler. Remember yes,
we had studied nigga pissed in the cool.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Long story, a lot of drinking, and and we were
just saying, either you're a dream champ or you're not
a dream champ, right, So then he made a song
about it while we was there, The Dream Champions.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Alchemist, When did you make this song? Was an alchemist?

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
Be?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Alchemist be alchemist be? And then we had to change
it alchemist so I didn't come and get a having beat.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Which we're not gonna have it my last album.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
You're not gonna have it beat. Listen once once you
say I don't drink Champions a contract. You can have
it for three times ten. I want to make something
very very very very very very very clear. We're recording,
by the way, so let's going. Has always been a

(01:17:45):
genuine dude, a genuine.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Person to me, being prodigy has always been a genuine,
genuine love. I wanted to put this roomorto rest. There's
no beef with Seeing and mall. Deep course we have misunderstandings,
but it is not beef. We can get money together.
He stood here when everybody take a piss most of
the time, no no, no, fat Joe started it off

(01:18:12):
well taking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
A piss and we kept it going. We kept it going.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
But usually that's the RQ to be like, it's olds
done with rest done. I want to thank you for
making that. Y'all just recently celebrated twenty years of the
infamous album. That album changed my life. I don't give
a fuck, even when I was beefing with Pee whatever,
that's my man. I love him, I love him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I was just I wouldn't let me cut you. It
wasn't for that album let me cut you. I wouldn't
be here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
Let me let me cut you off real quick. I
love I was just driving in the car with my homeboy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
And I was just telling him, like, you know the
little bullshit that pee and whatever he had.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
I said, Yo, that shit is like laughable because I
said them niggas is mad cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
Behind this, niggaslank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
for let's clearing this up and people, promotors and people
will be here next.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Yes, yes, both, yes, your prodigy, wherever you are.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
You know, I got Pete drunk in my studio one night.
He found he fell out to a nature. I swear
to god. I was like, yo, we didn't know what
to do. Give him more drinks, like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
You can't do that, like this is more, we can't
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
And then and then the nigga woke up and just
rode his round. He's stood on the floor and rolled
his round. The Nigga's crazy, my prodigy. We love you,
my nigga. Please just put this room with the arrest.
You know what I'm saying, like we should go out
here and get money. We are older, and plus, when
older niggas is beefing, we look corny, you know that, right,
Like older niggas be corned, like when you're eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Yeah, we don't want to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Man, I want to thank you so much and I
want to like really just throw it out there that
you know, we really got genuine love for each other.
Like you ain't asked to change up nothing. You knew
what what what it was gonna be. You came and
I really appreciate this. Your album is out. Let's let's
pick that up once more time. The Silent Partners real quick.

(01:20:13):
Why I want to say the silent partner because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
You know what I'm saying. In Mob Deep. You know
what I'm saying. You know the dad.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
You know who's the most vocal one in Mob Deep,
and that would be Prodigy. And everybody always look at
me like I'm the person that make the beats. Yes
I do make the beats, but but I do spit
too at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
And you hard. You know what I'm saying, And this
is like, yo, you know when I leave out of here,
you could throw this in the garbage. You're crazy. We
hip hop fans Curve I did spoke with. Yeah, No,

(01:20:58):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
You always been the biggest drinker in the world. You remember,
I came here out here for my birthday and you
just signed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Oh ship, you just signed the g Uni. I told
you don't. I was like, Yo, what the fun did
you woke me into? What happened? You thought I lined
you up? Keep it? No? No, no, no, I didn't
think you lined me up. But I thought that you
thought that you was the type of person that could
brink kumbaya.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I forgot. I live in Miami and Fact Joe arrived.
You just signed the gun. Let's keep it right. What
I told you? Don't talk to this told you I
gotta go. You my nigga, I love you. Then't listen.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
No, no, was was Toby Live. It is the club
to Live? I did you was? It was your birthday?
It was my birthday? Did Raypazine? It was? You went
into my crib. Let's make some noise for having come
into my crib. So listen. I'm your man. You didn't
trust me that night a little bit because I told

(01:22:05):
you not to talk to Fat Joe. But as a
real nigga, I got to do that. Yo. I said,
don't do it. He's niggas got knives. I told you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
This is me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I got hav it out here and we wild and
having a great time. This is remember I remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
So I didn't invite Fat Joe. But Fat Joe was
my brother. I didn't think of just sid you and it.
So as soon as Fat Joe walked in, he was like, yo,
is that who I think it is? And I was like, yo,
that's my that's my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
He with me, so he was like he's good. But
I didn't feel comfortable. I said, half, don't talk to
this and I was by myself. No, I was by myself.
You were with me, nigga. You wouldn't by yourself. I
was running around. It's my birthday. But I told you,
I said, have don't say nice this nigga, just chill.

(01:22:59):
He gonna do nothing. But you you went over there.
It was like yo, it was like tien. Puerto Ricans
like good. They were gonna kill you. They were gonna
kill you. And I love Puerto Rican my son.

Speaker 8 (01:23:12):
That's two times, and they was gonna kill you when
I was there. Listen the New York because they was
looking at me like this. No on the New York
New York video. I remember you just signed the gun
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
What was.

Speaker 6 (01:23:27):
You was?

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
It was ruleless?

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
You was out of line don't having you was there,
and you know I almost killed these niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
These niggas started flying on you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
I said, you crazy sig like you left from me
that day you don't remember, and you came to the man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
You came to my studio. This is a fact.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
And then that that day is so be live. I
told you not and then you it was great, but yeah,
you got too much hard havoc.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
That was too much. The Puerto Rican niggas is gonna
kill you in there. You did you did?

Speaker 6 (01:23:55):
You have me?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
You're good. You was with me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
You was good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Look but but what you from what you saw? You
shut them went over it. I seen Joe. I was like,
you know what I'm saying. You know he did with
his peoples, and them niggas was like this. I started
walking towards Fat Joe. They was like this, like you
don't like listen. I was on the other side. Yo,

(01:24:21):
I forget what it was. I took a picture and
I looked and I was like, y'all, like you do
what you want.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
To do that But it was funny as hell because
you got mad heart having and you know what, people
just need to start recognizing that people need to start
recognizing that you flew out here to come see the
drink Champs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
On your own dime. You came here and you you
you you, You talked about everything.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
You didn't tell me, no rescriptions, And I would just
really want to appreciate you guys having twenty years of
a classic motherfucking album.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
That album single handedly was it changed? It changed hip hop,
You made a beat over the I really appreciate your
contributions to hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
I really appreciate your contributions to my career because I
want to keep giving it up to you and Prodigy,
because you know a lot of people get misconfused, like
you know, I like to be funny, you know whatever, whatever,
But like if I seriously say that if it wasn't
for y'all, it wouldn't have been us, you understand what
I'm saying and think about it like Prodigy, like like

(01:25:29):
his origin being from Left Frack or being a affiliated
to Left Frack. It was like we was the second
coming of y'all. You know what I'm saying. So I
got I got nothing. And you worked on a war reporter.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Yes, yes I did, Yes, you worked on the war report.
How was it working on the report were going on
twenty years next year, Parovil, you know genius. I want
you to answer the parole, violate this question. But when
I knew he was a genius, This how I knew
you was ill. Every b I ever did for you

(01:26:01):
in the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Beginning, like the original beat was it, But then you
went back and did three different more versions right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Like you this day to this day, you still do that.
This niggas a g what big machine used mostly the
machine before we using instruments back in those days, back
in the days with the n b C. Time you
do that late machine, you don't have to because we

(01:26:34):
don't even know what we might have. We in Miami,
you never know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
We don't even know what that is. Only listen, I'm
in Miami. So you don't get trying to be you
don't get im. Oh that's that New York when you
come from New York, fresh from New York. But you

(01:26:59):
don't know if you've y was on the overseas tour.
You've been getting a lot of money, lady, you have
been on the tour this whole year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
That can I can Smith and Wesson.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
I'll took that person, couldn't We would have had a
tall like, I mean, those are my niggas, but we
would have had a better toll.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
You heard that. Wow, I'm glad you didn't come.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
It was wild because young niggas will be snatching up
my buses.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
So I was like, nah, being especially capon copon y'all y'all, yeah, yeah,
is that a twelve street thing? Did that start from kindergarten?
Or like when did that start?

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Like Darston niggas like like like yeah, yeah, what did
that start? Like your niggas. Your niggas been knocking things
down like back in the day, like not recently, not recently,
under the effort excuse me, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
No, no, no, no, I'm saying I got a girl.
Now let's make some noise for having having a girl.
We don't believe. Are you gonna take another hit?

Speaker 6 (01:28:13):
Three?

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Is my love you number? You take no more?

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
I'm we had cares want whatever the fun? That is
that guy? When the last time you smoke, I feel
like I got a smell on my face. This last time,
I feel like I got a smell on this is
that ship?

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Is that ship's not a bomb? When the last time
you smoke just now, but before this that's truth.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Twenty five years ago. Oh wow, forever. I really like
man the rest one he slipped it. He was like, heah,
you can't, you can't. I do it all the time.
It was like real slicking.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
Yes, I'm like, listen, listen, I want to just throw
this out on the throw this in. You're officially a
drink champ, yo.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
I ain't gonna lie. I have it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
There's nobody who drink like you. I was in SLB's
with you one night. You jumped on the motherfucking stage.
He was kicking all type of crazy shit. I looked
at it, and you know, Halving is little, but that
nigga heart is much that as hard as the size
of the Empire State Building, my nigga. Because I'm gonna
be honest, Like, if you would have told me to
do the podcast, your podcast, I might have been.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Like, nah, like I don't know, Like like I don't know.
You came out, you flew out, and you came in
the line comfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
He comfortable because he you know why, because he he
don't pay don't he don't. You don't pay attention to
the Internet, because the Internet would have you believe in
some ship.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
The Internet would make create some fake drama and then
you start believing the drama. You're like, I think I
do got beef for the nigga. Like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
It's the internet with with bozos. But I want to
thank you again for coming through, stepping through. But let's
get this money. He heard about this tour. Let's think
about this tour.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
That's the train I used to run trains on twelve
Street back. It's not it's not that type of train, yo.
I ain't gonna lie yo. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
During that infamous album, y'all made me want to rap
like I had doubts. I had doubted myself. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, I had doubted myself. Then I
hung out with Twins and that hung out with y'all
went to the Poladiu. This is one of my favorite
queens Bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Stories of all.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
NAS had came, Nas had the gold Lexus and I
was Twins guest. I wasn't Capone. I don't think you know.
Copone was home, but he was on the run. He
had shot a dude called Pat Post. You remember this,
it's my memory good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I even got more stories to it. But go ahead,
but listen. So this is my what's my favorite queens
Bridge moment.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Y'all had a show at the Palladia and it was
like nine hundred niggas outside the train bend and then
Nas drove through. He had drove through in the gold Lexus.
That was first cup and everybody opened up. That's Nas
drove through. And then Nigga was smoking the blunt. He

(01:31:19):
just said queens Bread.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
And it was like, damn, we beat more people. Joe,
I can't tell you like this shit like to Menia
man March.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
To me, I was like, that was my favorite queen.
It was at a mall deep show at the Palladium,
and Yo, I will never forget that for as long
as I lived.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
That. I don't even think he came. I don't even
think he came in the club that this night.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
I think he just came in and was like, your
niggas because y'all did perform like five songs and then
your niggas beat somebody up and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Yeah, it was like pretty much like that like that,
and then I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
Yo, you know what, I'm bringing my whole hood out
like when I do that, and y' y'all was my inspiration.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
That's what's up.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
How much pussy did you have? How many? He just
takes it that fact? How much pussy? Yeah? Man, not
a love man. You know, I'm an imity I swear
I'm an inmated man. Nobody believes you have it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
No, No, you was knocking things down, singers, and all
that was was giving our for beats.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
I always I always was a family man, you know.
I always was a family Was it ever a tour? Allowed?
Tour with pun alcoholics and y'all? It probably was. I
do remember being just don't you in your d m
X ship you right now you're dh nah? But you
know what dope? Yeah, we used to be on on

(01:32:55):
the road with a pun a lot. Who else was it?
It was alcoholics m o P. Alcoholics m o P.
They wasn't really around at that time. That was like
kind of early afterwards.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
I wasn't loud because loud was like the label at
that time, like the street label.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
I never, I never, I never looked at loud like that.
But they came up with like some kind of documentary
that you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
When you say you don't you didn't look at them
like that? What do you mean by No. I never
looked at Loud as like some kind of label. No
but but I but I big signfican up like you.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
Know what I'm saying. But when we got there, it
was just in its infansy. So when we got there
with what.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Word did you say? Babies? But I mean and now
I was looking back, they the artists that they chose
lab don't even do that today. No alcoholics was m P.

Speaker 5 (01:33:59):
Like when I think about it now, when I think back,
I kind of like regret taking it for granted. Like
but I didn't know like what we was around because
we had Wu Tang and maul D then Poem was dead.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
So it was just really something that was like was
there a certain a and r at Loud that was
picking artists besides Steve? Was Steve? Not that I know
because once we got there, how did you get loud?
Because Maddie c and Scott Free and Scott Original, Yeah

(01:34:34):
he was loud.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
Was loud was a cubicle when we first got there
and they said, yo, we got these all this ko
Wu Tang and I remember bringing it home and listening
to it and I was like, you know, because you know,
I'm on my own ship. Was like whatever, you know
what I'm saying. But then like the next three months,
niggas in my whole hood was playing. They didn't even
know that I was in the office building of the

(01:34:58):
people that fu with these niggas, and then my whole
hood was playing Wu tang and I'm looking at these
niggas like, oh ship, I could go back to the
office and give them data, you know what I'm saying,
give them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
A little bit of data like what they don't like.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
They gave me the CD. I didn't know what to
do with it, and then I just put it to
the side. But then the whole hoods started going crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
My own hood. I was like, I was like you
like that. I was like, I know, these niggas like,
you know what I'm saying. You shook Ones out on
your own at first, and then Loud came no, no, no,
no no no.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
We made it Loud gave us the budget, and then
we did it, and then we just gave Loud starting
to run with you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
They was like, Okay, this is this song right here,
and we just like yeah, and we took a chance.
But that wasn't the first shook Ones. It was a
sho Ones part too, right. It was. It was one
that you never hear, you know what I'm saying. And
then when we basically the remix.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
Right, so when we put out the first shook Ones,
we put it out and then uh, nobody liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Nobody same be. No, it's a different be. It was
a different beat. So people was like, nobody liked it.
They was like, so what's up? And y'all was on
loud at that time, right, and they was like, what's up?
So the like, we gave you a second shot? So
I was like, all right, fuck it, I was, and
then I just I made the seques that you hit.

(01:36:25):
So I made it, and then the project stole and.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
Then I made it and then they was listening and
then they was like they was like okay, and then
they they liked it personally, so they pushed it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
And then you remember performing that at how can I
Be Down? At Luke's Club? Of course I was. I
was in Atlanta, No no, no, no, no, here in
Miami Luke Club in Miami. How can I Be down?

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Was always don't test him. He remembers everything he had
tennis from nineteen forty three.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Club Club Club a those blue clubs that he just said, Washington,
I believe, I believe. But we did a lot. We
did a lot of like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
You don't even have the juvenile Hell tape, right, of
course you gotta believe that, you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
I do believe. I don't how much how much ship
did you all do when you first came out and
I got a blur, I don't even know. I got
a blur, like like a blur. I was doing drugs.
Ecstasy represents the DJ in the fan. But then but
then I liked it, Molly for a little while too.

(01:37:38):
I'm gonna keep it on, keeping on a little while,
for a little while, a little while. Sometimes looking he
came hound.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
He didn't know what X was, and then it was
and then it was around went into space six months drug.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Abuse how baw I was like, I was like Prince,
but he thought prodricks together. He was like, hey, yeah,
I was going to was it was gold Rush.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
Okay, I'm going to gold Rush twenty four hours, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
I was going there get pancakes and left hand. It's
still only twenty fives class. You know, you can't you can't.
I don't able to call them on already going already
I'm not foul. It's already pre marriage. Yeah, marriage, Thank

(01:38:26):
you for throwing out there. Heldo, Hello, you been to Florida.
He's been forever. No, no, no, I'm asking him.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Yeah, foul, I've been found. I've been huting foulteen years,
fouty years.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
But people don't know what that the number this is,
this is yeah, this is real ship. Listen man, No, no, no,
no Florida because hold on, hold on, how many years
you be in Florida? I think I'm like a Tennish
tennis you tennis tennis? Okay, said this is your hood.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
Because two of them like, like, I think I've been
more than I think I've been more than ten But
I still had cribs in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
New York at that time, so I can't really but
that don't count. Yeah, that don't count.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
But when I flew out here, so I'm like eight,
I'm like eight strong years and he came religiously.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
From me years. Yeah. So when you go like this,
like yo, around my way, you talk about Florida, right,
I ain't gonna lie. I've adapted that sometimes not around
I don't have around.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Listen, there's no around, like, there's no like blocks out
here unless you're in like over town.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
It is like people hang out in like cribs out
here right like see see how are you from? Where
we're from?

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
You hang out on twelfth Street, you hang out on
ninety seven. Hoods is different, like the hoods is different
than Miami. The Southern son. What's the Southern hood? What's
the Southern hood?

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
It's it's hood. It doesn't look they'll kill your fast
out here, they'll kill your fast.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
It's Miami, Miami to kill your fast. Listen and listen.
You know who I want to big up, man. I
know this is very awkward, but I want to big
up Kodak Black.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Oh for so.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
The reason why I want to big up Kodak Black
because I gotta switch up my years. My years are
living in Miami and my years are living in Broadway.
I also lived in Broway.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
And I've always been and you never red browner, So
you know you're about to rep brown.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
You know I was on parole and brown you're talking about.
Excuse what's the difference. It's it's like different counties, you
know what. I break it down good for you, easy
for you. Queensbridge and Ravenswood is the same thing, but
it's not the same thing. I don't think that's a

(01:40:23):
good Yes, it is because it's right down the block.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
No, it's not. That's a different yes. And Brown FLI
is it close to Miami. Yeah, it's like New York.
It's the same show. You can do Jersey. I think
Jersey New York makes more sense. And Brown Studios. Yes,
my Steward is in Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:40:50):
I was on probation in Browick, so I wanted to
be And then they now popping with Koda Black.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Let's make some noise for.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
I haven't Queen's brush. I want to just be clear.
There's no beef for component or Yeah happened, and I really.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
Deep excuse me, and I really appreciate you for coming
here and just sitting here and put this toll.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Is this something that you think that we can pull off.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
I think that we could really pull it off and
it will really be dope, and I think that the
fans would love it more than we even think.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
I believe to be huge. I believe so. I believe
so man, I definitely believe. So hold on, let me
like this rawn. You gonna like this bultshit right now? Y'all.
You don't like this smell. You didn't like it when
currency was here, So why the fuck do you like
it now? Because I was trying. I was like trying
to win, like when I win my argument, like I
don't mind it. Are you paying on my face? Petty?

(01:42:01):
I'm a petty nigga. I'm very petty. Like when you
break up with a bitch and you want to if
you purse, do you take the purse back? It depends
how much it coulds. I got a rhyme like that.
I said, person break up with them, take the purse back.
That's a fact. I'm a petty nigga. You're surprised, and

(01:42:24):
this is when I was rich rich. I'm still surprised
when you get petty, I'm mad petty.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
You don't listen If Jay Z called me over a podcast,
that is petty, that means rich, all rich niggas is petty.
I think we should all accept our pettiness. Does anybody disagree?

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Listen? Accept your pettiness? Have it? Do you think you know?
You don't accept your pettiness? I really accept it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
You never took ship back from a bitch take it,
of course, let subscribe the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
I got mad stories. If you want me to go.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
First, I gave it twenty g. Then he was about
to break up. I said, I want my twenty g's
and she gave it to me back, gave hold.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
Bring up to her though, But I gonna know what
year this is, because I want to know what was
her pussy?

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Sunshine? You throw it in the air. It turned out
the sunshine was it was it?

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
That was it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
That? It was such shot, it was so shine. I
just joke, but not everything to give back though what happened.
I mean, thank god she had the twenty gees to
give back, right, yeah, thank of for her bank. Right. Oh,
she spent it and still had it. I gave it
to her, but she still had it and I took
it back. But that's being the Indian. Give it. That

(01:43:44):
was faul give that was fast. That's called pettiness.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
And y'all from queens, y'all established, I don't the queens think.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
I don't think it's a question. I think it's I mean, no,
I think it's a queens and y'all estops that right now.
You just think queens. I just said that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
I'm saying, I'm petty. I ain't represent Queen in this
moment right now. I remember saying me, but I'm asking
my brother, fum queens, are you petty?

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
You said? He said yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Said yeah, okay, FN have you taken have you brought
a bitch something? And just say, oh, listen, don't you
fucking line man? We are listen, listen, let's time out.
You cut a bitch off of going to Cisco videos.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
You ain't even seen the video, and you you stopped
fucking with him. Listen, don't relationship hold up. Let's ask
the one girl in the room besides the bartender, is
that is that? Come in? Come in? You're not giving
the full situation you do. You have to say your name?
Is that petty? He listen? His girl called him. I

(01:44:44):
don't know if he was in the definitely listen story.
I'm just going with the face story.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Right he found out his girl was going to Cisco
video and he broke up whatever, Right, there is that
petty that's not with them but in And I'm dyslexic.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
I'm breaking it down, dyslexic. The Dong song wasn't the
Yes This Star has been coming in from their song
dream Cha yees.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Listen, did dear girlfriend hits you about this or not?
It was not girl. She was an aspiring model at
the time. Uh huh, No, you set yourself up. No,
I just set myself up. As soon as she started
doing videos, I was done. I just set myself up.
She was a gong song. I'm like, I'm out, I'm not.
It was just a video though, Man, it was just

(01:45:37):
a video. Hom me. I'm a DJ. I'm working in
this world.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I'm not trying to be in the I'm in the
same room dudes with my broad and nah, I'm not listening.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
I'm not. We just interview Cisco. He was still mad
about it. Let's make some going. You are, daddy. I'm
trying to say, that's a different Hey, you trying to
separate yourself from my head. She was in the in
the Jays, the Pimpsy and j g K video Big Pimp.
She was a big pimping. They put all the shampore

(01:46:11):
you tell me yo a d yo. Wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait no wait
wait wait strong songs. First, I was out. Yeah, Big
pimpin came. I was already out.

Speaker 7 (01:46:27):
I was like, thank god, you got you gotta pist
this time too long on me. You pull eventually and
then we're gonna close it out after this Cuban pists
coming here.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
That was the That was the moment, yo. I just
I didn't know what the big ship, but I was
already out of there. You made the right choice.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
So listen because when when I heard you pisan, I
don't listen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
She wanted, she wanted, she was come on. That was out.

Speaker 4 (01:47:04):
So I I was out and I was out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
I saw the future. I follow future. I said, I'm learn,
I'm out of here. It's not coming back with what
you wanted. There's not ming gut from the thought song. Dude,
he got man, I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
I was trying to throw you something like the save
you out of head and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
You I'm proud about.

Speaker 8 (01:47:28):
I want Wally hold Us always.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
I forgot what you want me those three millions, she
was what you want me, ghost face A tricky ay
from me. She was. She wasn't fucking Ricky Maria's crazy
song freaking me.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
Okay, Ricky Martin, Me and very bou them three niggas
and just nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Out with jol but that was out that stuffing about,
so then what I'll say she wasna. She must have
been back in the broadcast like friends. You that's not
Onie like they got home on naas Okay, I don't

(01:48:18):
know before it was beating and he had a hat on.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
I didn't know if we still have long hair, but
sis will still got.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Bitches, So let me it's just that's just this is
a sign interview. Do you think Cisco fucking bit? But
you know what I think the cricket looking dude from
what's these dudes names Poison? What's the things from Poison?
The boats? Creaky looking Ronnie, Ronnie? I think Homie did

(01:48:48):
he did new addition that we about to come out.
He does pressure listening. Actually you know simple that.

Speaker 13 (01:49:04):
No twins, no snapchat they tell your Yeah, no snapchat,
we told you, bro, I make videos from when drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Somebody ready ya follow me out? No, it's petty man. Listen, man, listen,
that's a new religion. I'm gonna asking my producer question. Yes, yo,

(01:49:43):
are we we're having you like the NBC or machine better?
Which was better for you? It's a producer question, man.
Producers one and not the machine. Yeah, why is that?

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Because it corresponds with the lavetops M M d mc
gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
The new one does, but you know.

Speaker 5 (01:50:04):
Native instruments beat them to it. The workflow yea, the
workflow is quicker and better. I would definitely say the machine, Yeah, definitely.
And let me ask you the two part question before
you get up out of that. Who's your favorite producer?

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
My favorite producer? Yeah, yeah, my favorite producer.

Speaker 6 (01:50:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
You know, I don't even listen to motherfuckers number. So
who's the producer you would want to work with? Hope
Quincy Jones, Well, then you would want to rhyme over
their beats over there beat Quincy Jones Jackson. So I

(01:50:49):
went to Quincy Jones, right. If I went to him
one day, I said, Quincy Jones.

Speaker 5 (01:50:53):
You know what I'm saying, I want to make an album,
He'd be like, yeah, we could fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
He'd be like, yeah, we could do it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Look what I did for Michael Jackson, and this is
how we're gonna do it, and we're gonna make her
off the wall. If he told me I'm gonna make
a off the War, then I'm going to fucking agree
with him because I know that he did make her
off the wall. You understand what I'm saying, Like, listen
to Off the Wall. Don't listen to thriller. Listen listen
to Off the War. Michael Jackson hooked up with Quincy

(01:51:23):
Jones and they did that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Oh we're going for a second time. That's that royal
con right now. It God damn it, Yo. Don't kill
our guests, bro, that's the ultimate goal. Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
But ha, let me tell you something, man. Honestly, from
the bottom of my heart, I can't thank you enough.
This ain't no fort On podcast. This is real life
because you know, we we have a career. When you
in this game for twenty years, this is a career
we built. We built shit off of what we've done.
And I was so glad when you wanted to be

(01:52:10):
the man, the big man of all four of us.
I gotta credit you for this, because if you didn't
come out here, there would still be dumb rumors of
component Noriega and Marb deep dumb beef.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
You came out here. I really can't thank you enough to.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
Appreciate you for coming out here and just de in
these fucking dumb ass rumors and Let's get motherfucking money
because we are young black fucking people, came from the ghetto,
came from the similar ghetto. You're the same trains you
gotta take to go to your hood, the same train
we gotta take.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
To go to my hood.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
You the fucking silent partner. And I just want to
thank you once again for putting these rumors to rest.
There is no Component, Noriego while Marb Deep beef, there's
none of that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
We are family. We're gonna keep this shit going, keep
getting money.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
This tall it's supposed to be possible with nas Mob
Deep and Component or and we want to motherfucking make
that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
You know what I'm saying, Let's get this money, man.
You know what I'm saying for what? And you got
that silent partner? My dude?

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Is that is that the note you want to leave
it on? Or you want to say you want to
you want to say real quick. I rarely give my
last speeches, you know what I'm saying. But on the
side of a DJ and a fan, and I'm telling
y'all there's DJs in the room right now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Are the records y'all made? Y'all inspired us. Yes, we
love playing those records.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Those are hip hop records, you know what I'm saying,
Those are classic records. And we thank you, We thank
you and Prodigy and we thank you for the production
and the verses.

Speaker 6 (01:53:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Yeah, question I want to ask.

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
Questions when you when you made Choet Storm, you think
that that was going to start a beef between Foxy
and Kim?

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Did you know that? You didn't know? I had no idea,
You had no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
And then Alchemist, who was like your partner, did bang bang,
which was like equivalent to.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Like Foxy answering out. Was that bugged out because you know,
we didn't plan that. We just was doing the record
and she came in. Did you ever look at it
like that? Definitely? You was getting too much pussy and
too much money. That's that's what the whole hold up

(01:54:31):
business did.

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
We did the Choet I was like cloud nine right
right right, and then I heard I heard some seven yeah, yeah, seven.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
But I didn't give you know, we ain't really care
about all that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:51):
Yeah, all right, So definitely definitely, But it never was
about that to me, right because it this was too fun.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
But you know what I'm saying, like really really fun,
fun and you worked the big.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
Junior Mafia. Those are my peoples. We're gonna get trying
to get a little seeds up here too. Hopefully we
get a little Kim or Foxy or somebody. Females, ain't
you're fucking with us lately? They don't like us ship.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
I don't know. I'm surprised. The bartender just came. And
every time I think of homie from the bartender, that's
why I said female word for it to be bartender around. Yeah,
let's make him another word. Goddamn, make them on. Was
you ever befuddled by the interview at any point? What

(01:55:41):
that means? Right now? I just learned. I learned that world, yo.
But listen, I have it once again.

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
I can't thank you so much, man, I really appreciate
you for coming here, because this is all jokes man
for the fans that don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
We you know, we play with the facts. You know
what I'm saying, Like, that's that's what the drums fans drunk.
It's drunk facts, you know what I'm saying. And we
have fun. And you sat in.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
You didn't try to change nothing. You did everything that
a real nigga do. We got so many people trying
to come here, and I was, I ain't gonna lie
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
I can't tell you. I won't lie to you. I
was so excited about this. I was trying to pick
out my OFFI.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
He said he was gonna iron his to get my
outfit early, but I fucked up. I can't match the
sneakers that I wanted to wear, so I fucked no, no, no,
These these are Supremes twenty three days, A very supreme,
you know I wanted because my man.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Ray from eight and nine? Where were at eight and nine?
We got we suck ourselves pick up our eight and nine.
Gear dot Com trying to give me some exclusive James.
I don't got them on that.

Speaker 7 (01:56:46):
These those are these are the scuolive.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
Too and they clean. Yeah, yeah, ain't gonna like I
was just I was. I forget where I was. That
was in Europe, somewhere Paris or something, and rolled over
my own shoe. I can't even swing on nobody like
I rolled over my own shoe. I was like yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:57:10):
I wanted to be with the first nigga smell that
they didn't use them like. I was like, yo, nigga,
you the reason why Jesus fucked up. But havoc man, Yo,
this is real ship man. You got the album out?
Now are you gonna put on the artist?

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Are you going? Is it your turn to put on
an artist?

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (01:57:27):
Like like with people, you producing people, you produce people
like kan Ye Puff Daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
You know what I'm saying. You're like like, is it
your turn to put on the new guy? Nope, it's
not my turn. What you're doing your selfish as let's
make something should be yourself. That was a selfish nah.
But no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
But what I'm trying to say is the person that
I do put out is gonna be really special.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
So that's why I just find him any all this
adu or you might be working homeie whoever, then he's
working whoever I put out, it's gonna be very special.
Have you been looking for that type of artist? A
lot of stuff been coming to me, like really really
really good stuff. So Eddie Giggs is ready got gigs.

(01:58:21):
What's the name of song? Gets? Can you see your
tricky man? Ever heard in my life? He's got the
best song. You gotta have the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
This is the ass you on the show. Listen. I
don't remember that the first.

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
What do you want to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
This time? You don't want to you want to hear it?
You mane, my chicken, chail mane. He's gonna play this guitar.

(01:59:10):
But when you got his rapp it playing and I
don't remember, but tell you can you do? That's what
I get? Ok? Okay, come here, Eddie, what's not happening?
How much? Ask you if you had to, if you
had to count, how much? Asses? Assholes? You don't have

(01:59:31):
fingers on my hand, you don't have so let me
ask you something. Use the an FM mind. Let me
ask you something pause.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
Was you offended or was you like into when they
said eat the booty like grocer beets?

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Was you grow or was you he's like Costco? But
did you ever reference that reference?

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
So, what do you call it when you eat?

Speaker 6 (01:59:57):
Ass?

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
What else you gonna go? You don't got a special
word asteroids like you ain't with your bitch. You'd be
like Gulo. You don't want to get away on god.

Speaker 9 (02:00:10):
Damn, you don't even have a special night. He just
he asked just as hashtag and as you know, I've
seen him met The point of this ass, we say
you live live on it was, but she just didn't
ask porn.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Yes, yes, habit is like at these niggas is crazy.
Now you're gonna talk have it, no joke that's ending
on this. You did ask porn and and he said,
I love the booty.

Speaker 4 (02:00:33):
Now let's ask habit as habit you ask all, you
ask all all guest this do you?

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
He asked, I'm gonna be honest, habit. You look like you, you.

Speaker 4 (02:00:51):
Look like.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
You're like you ask, But i' gonna keep it the honey.

Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
He's past Avenue and that's it looks like here in
the projects. Assno, come on, keep it real with the
drink champs. You gotta, you gotta inspire these young people.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
I gotta wife, I gotta. We didn't know that that
let me respectful man, We didn't know respectful. We didn't
know he had. I think he should have said that
like from the beginning, like we were going.

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
There for now you're just not No he did, Yes
he did, and you're not listening having it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Thank thank you, I really appreciate you for coming having fun.

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
This is jokes and you got to you got the
album out right now and silent Partner is out right now.
And and you you said what's next? We we actually
what's next? You said you're gonna find a special artist.
You got a script that you're.

Speaker 5 (02:01:57):
Writing, and is there any other thing that you you know,
it's gonna be definitely crazy, the little bit that I'm
about to put.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
Out and wait, wait can we do a drink Champ
song with having producing it? Oh yeah, just the original
something let me. I've been everywhere.

Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
Listen, man, I've been every He's a drink, he's trying
to go.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
He's the original drink. Listen listen, I've seen having drink gallons.
This is my and hold it down. Ian Jay? Did
you gallus?

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
Did you love Ian J at one point? Or Danny
want Like we're telling people Danny is because people didn't
know that, saying, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:48):
I think who drunk that ship before that? Because your
song drank MD tw twenty special. No, oh, we drank
that ship. That's like Francisco. You drink Cisco, Ciscosco. If

(02:03:14):
you from coys Bridge, you drunk Cisco's. We drank Cisco here.
But they they really shived it out there like that. Yeah,
they sold it in Jamaica. Avenue. So let me ask
you the last question. Did you tell Prodigy that's three?
By the way, did you tell Prodigy you came in?

(02:03:35):
I got to tell somebody. Man, listen, because listen, I
want to end this once for a prodigy. Love you,
we love you.

Speaker 4 (02:03:45):
Please, producty come out here. You're from left frack. It's
about time you claim your roots.

Speaker 2 (02:03:50):
Come back home. That's what the blood niggas say, right,
they be like, come home.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
You know what I'm saying, so solid, silent partner, I
thank you for coming, havoc man, and that you got
anything else you want to say to.

Speaker 3 (02:04:02):
The fans, socials give you socials at least, and we
get you a drunk you know, your websites, your.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Social media, we got you. We got boom boom boom. Right.
Talk to the mic though, Talk to the mic that
people want to hear you. Yeah, the people. Ye drunk.

Speaker 4 (02:04:20):
I don't know I'm gonna be I don't even know
where you remember you remember the point you sober? I
like the drunk happen. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
That fucked up is that he's drunk. That best happened.
He's good, he's good. You remember you were sober like
for like, like, how how long you this? How long
you were so before? Like two years? Well you don't
funk that up right now, you know? Thank you very much? No, no, no, no,
I'm in so much for like two years to thank
you having we love you up. Yeah, yo, hold on

(02:04:56):
do drop the drop got on twisted, This is wonderful drop.

Speaker 6 (02:05:08):
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Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
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Speaker 6 (02:05:17):
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O r E. Please make sure to follow us on
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(02:05:39):
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