#Throwback Episode - w/ Talib Kweli| (Ep. 12) - Drink Champs

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
They drink it up with some of the biggest players
in music and sports?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
You know what I mean, the most professional unprofessional podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is Drinksamp Radio. Every day is New Year's Eve?
Would it could be, hopefully what it should be?

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Before we even continue, I want to say that right
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dripped to death with eight to nine from the head
to the bottom of my feet.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 5 (00:53):
And right now, right now, we have a legendary Brooklyn MC.
He was a part of a legendary group that we
only got one albums.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
We was disappointed. We're gonna get into that.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
He's hip hop's first activist, that gangsters in hip hop
claim and the backpackers in hip hop claim. He stepped
up for us in Ferguson wh nobody else was. He
told that guy that was in CNN, we're gonna get
to that later, that you're reporting on black culture in

(01:30):
a disrespectful way.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
And he told it to him intelligently.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
And live and live to this day, people still don't
respect this guy's Don Lemon's.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
News reporting skills.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Since that day, it's been different from mister. I had
this guy number. The first thing I wanted to do
was tex him and say thank you. But he's a
hip hop activist. He's one of the realist people. He's
a hip hop pure.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Lyricist, pure lyricists.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
He's worked with the likes of Kanye West, jay Z, Freeway,
you name him. He's been in the studio and had
something to do with them being great.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right now, we have Tyler Qualley in a building. Make
so fucking man, Man the legend. Man the legend. You're
gonna make a black man blush nah man.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Listen, By the way, let me just say something. I've
seen you in LA and I got a chance to
tell you how much I appreciated the statements, the acts,
and the courageousness that you portrayed during the Ferguson and
you going out there first off, just representing for us.

(02:46):
And then second off, when people were reporting four stories,
you immediately corrected this guy, and he did it in
an intelligent way.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You could have been like, fuck you, nigga, you sell out, motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
You know what I'm saying. That's how I feel about
Don Lemon. But you didn't. You did it in respectful
How did that trans We.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Get the full story?

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, and we don't need the political, politically correct answer.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Nobody listens to this show. Followers, Yeah, let's go ahead,
tell us. But first of all, before I get into that,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
First of all, shout out to the family of Michael
Brown and Michael Bougher's mom and Michael Brown Senior, And
you know what I'm saying, like because you know, one
of the things that was lost in the conversation with
me and Don Lemon was the fact that I was
out there to represent for Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Exactly know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
And one thing that I you know, I try to
do not I have no regrets in life.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
But that I had to ask the drink.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Okay, well, it's streets sound a little too sober.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That is your bottle, That is your bottle, you know,
and sponsored some of the worst moments in my life.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Yeah, it's wants some of the worst moments of Miss
well Tyler. Yeah, so go ahead, you and Ferguson.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, so I went down there. You know, I'll be
on Twitter. Claar. You did not get paid to be in, fergus.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
No, No, Don Lemon got paid to be in. That's right,
go ahead, continue. I was on Twitter, be on Twitter
a lot, and you be arguing on fools.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I see, I do. I you know.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Jay Z said, if you argue with fools from a distance,
they can't tell who's who.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, who's the wise man? But I tell him come
a little closer. And it's very apparent that's makes some
noise for him telling you come a little closer. Just
if you come a little closer, you can see. You
know what I'm saying, what I'm doing, But you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Like I was talking on Twitter to people who was retweeting,
and people a lot of times people on social network
think that they activists because they retweet some because they
post something nice and positive on Facebook, and that's that's
all good. But unless you have bodies on the ground,
unless the flesh is involved. There's nothing really really happening.

(04:45):
So I found myself being hypocritical because I'm talking about
this on on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
My man Jay Cole went down there. I think that,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Saying, Like, these are artist that I think maybe Gez
Young Jez went down there before me, So.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I've seen other artists go down know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
So I was like, Okay, I could go down I'm
here on Twitter talking about it, let me go down there.
I'm an artist, I'm my own boss. I don't have
a schedule I have to adhere to.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I could go down there.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
So I went down there, and I was happy to
see my man Philip Agnew aka Umi Salat, who's here
in Miami.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what I'm saying. From Dream Defenders. He was
down there.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
I see I seen Uh Patrice from Black Lives Matter
down there. I see people that are already fuck with
down there, So I felt like I was in the
right place. I met my man Tef Poe are artists
from Saint Louis, very talent to them. See he's on
my last album of Knife Wonder, which I are you on.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
He's on the saw. My man teft Poe on my
man Tory Russell. They was down there. They was on
the front.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Lines, and my first night down there. To be honest
with you, I kind of went down there on some
like I'm just gonna show my face.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Okay, I'm drink. I see I got to drink. I'm sorry.
I was gonna show my face.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
To be real with you, you know what I'm saying,
Like I wasn't planning on getting in no type of action.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Or you just wanted to be show solid donity. You
got maced or something like that. Yeah, there was no.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
I didn't get massed, but they sprayed tear gas in
the air infected me a little bit. I had to
peep the cops and uh, you know, agitated the people,
you know what I'm saying, and they chased us down.
I was down there with Rosa Clemente who's a friend
of mine. Jessica care Moore was a poet. Cops and
some young people. They chased us down there.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Be related to Roberto Clemente because that's my cousin. She's not,
but she is Puerto Rican. She is she is Puerto Rican.
How many days into the protest is this when you
get there.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
This is as soon as I got this, But I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Saying, how many days had the protests, Okay.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
And it's been going going on about a week before,
maybe maybe two weeks before I got down there, And
you know, the people on the front line, I seen
that they needed the voice that I seen that they
needed representation.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Shout out to my man Benzino. I seen him down there, you.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Know what I'm saying. There's a couple of other artists
I can't think of right now, but Tea I was
rolling with Tef Poe and them, and I was down
there for about a week. I got asked to do
a lot of press. I turned a lot of it down.
I did Democracy Now with Amy Goodman, I did a
Joyanne Reid show. But I was turning a lot of
the press down because I wasn't down there as a rapper,
you know what I'm saying as an actor.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, with the people I.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Got asked to do CNN. I had never met Don Lemon.
I went down there to do the thing with him, and.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
This is the night before he said I smelled weed
or this is the same. This is about a few
months before that. Oh he said he smelled was a
few months before he smelled the weed.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
You know, Don Lemon is somebody that I you know,
even to this day, I clown to make fun of him.
I had a little altercation with him on the air,
but I have respect for.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Him as a as a human being.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, a gay man, black man on CNN.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, he came out and Anderson you know gay.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
You know what I'm saying, Like you know they did.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I went, I went down there.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I was very excited to do the interview with Don Lemon,
and I was surprised at the way that he conducted
the interview, and I think shocking my surprise. Me being
used to doing interviews in a certain way as an
artist was different from me doing interviews as I don't
think Don Lemon understood my, my, my, who I was
and what I was doing down there.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I was just somebody who was dead. He had no
frame of reference. No, he didn't know you beforehand. Nah,
we never met him. Who might have been from St. Louis, Yeah,
I could have been rappers for Saint Louis.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
And no disrespect to rappers from Saint Louis, because you
know those are the voices like my man Tef Poe.
You know what I'm saying, Like people whose rappers from there,
they know what was up for real, Like, really they
should have interviewed Teft Poe really, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
They were walking by. That's how this happened. Now, they
called me. CNN called me a lot. They called me
a lot. The real story is they called me a lot.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
They called me like like ten times like and I
said no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
And they said Anderson Cooper was going to do the story.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
And you know, I have a lot of respect for
Anderson Cooper, me too, you know what I'm saying. So
I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. When I
got down there, they had Don Lemon. I didn't, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I was like, okay, Don Lemon cool? Was you all
of Don levonly? Yeah? I didn't have no. I didn't
have no opinion of him. Yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
I was aware of him. I knew he was on CNN.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I wasn't a fan. I wasn't not a fan. I
didn't know who he was.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I just knew he was famous, you know, black dude
on CNN. So I did an interview with him. And
you know, I just didn't like the way that you know,
I felt like, you know, Don Lemon is on CNN
on TV a lot. I feel like, if you call
me to interview me, you want to hear what I.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Got to say. As soon as I started speaking, he started.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Speaking, you know what I'm saying, and my gut instinct
kicked in, you know what I'm saying. But like I said,
with the start of this, you know what I'm saying,
like I wish I would have talked more about Michael
Brown instead of getting into it with Lemon.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, but you know what I want to tell you
that it was. It was.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
It was necessary for the time because you being on
the ground, you probably didn't see all of the news footage.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Me being on the road.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
At the time, I did see all the news footage,
and he just wasn't It was.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
You know, we'll all due respect to him because I
never met Donald, you know what I'm saying, sooball me
judging him is absolutely pre prejudice because I never met
that guy, right, never been in.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Front of him.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
But from what I see, he's what represents an uncle Tom.
He's represents like the people who don't understand the struggle.
The people who don't understand that Mike Brown was innocently killed,
the people don't understand the Trayvon Mines that he was.
He was the epitome of the black guy who doesn't
understand our struggle. So although your plot put him in,

(10:29):
your confrontation with him might have took away from what
Mike Brown, it also shed light on the situation that listen, brother,
if you one of us, you got to be one
of us.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And if you're not, then you're just not.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I think he does because I think as a black
gay dude, he understands. Yeah, I shouldn't know he was gay,
So yeah, I think he understands it, and I think
he goes through it. You know what I'm saying As
somebody who works in the mainstream media, right, I got
I think he understands it.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But you know, people who work for a living, and
we all have.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Jobs, a lot of us compromise our gut feelings on
morals and compromise who we are as people for that check.
Don Lemon is there to represent CNN. CNN is a
corporate interest.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
He's not there, dude, like that he represents CNN. Let's
make some noise for don CNN.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Ahead not not CNN, like you know, the official CNN
kind of hood to you know, gangst the ship, the
other bad guys.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
You can't put that there. Come on, the other bad guys,
come on.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
But I think that he represents he He was doing
his job. The moment I spoke out against mainstream media,
I didn't even say CNN.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
He took offense to.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Me saying mainstream media is a problem. He looked at
CNN as being a part of mainstream media. He took
offense to me dissing his team.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's what it was.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
And the conversation got missing because he was like, wait
a second, CNN is fair.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I feel like I'm fair. I feel like I worked
for CNN. I'm fair, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
And it's like, you know, he represents the mainstream Me
to the mainstream media. Job is to enable the status
quote and the convince us that the status quote is okay.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
You know what I'm saying, Like CNN, the only reason CNN.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Was down there was in the host that there would
be a riot. The only reason that M S N,
B C, even even the left wing I'm not talking
about Fox News and all the bullshit. But even the
left wing, supposedly on our side, media is down there
because they hope that some violence. Wow, if there wasn't
a thread of violence, they wouldn't be down there.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So then they tell.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
You we shouldn't write, They tell you we shouldn't burn
down the CBS, and I agree with that. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't think violence solve anyone.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
CBS or CBS, CVSS understandship, CBS.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think that you know they don Lemon was doing
his job very well.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I like you being political. He was.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
That's not even that's not even politics, moneigga, that's just
real ship like like, he was doing the job. Now,
you and me, as artist, the reason you could call
yourself norier, the reason you could do a podcast with
EFN say whatever the fuck you want, is because you're
an artist.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
You have no boss. Talk about it, you have no bo.
Keep going, keep going. You see where you're going.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
You see when Laurence Hill don't show up to a show,
everybody get mad. Guess what, you could be mad, But
guess what, So the fuck what she don't work for you?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
She could she could show up when she feels like
showing up and guess what, she don't feel like it.
She don't have to show up. Something personal happen in
our life.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
She can be like I'm chilling today. She has an
arrangement with the venue.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Owner, the promoter, and you have, you have, You don't
know it.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
You're not privy to that. So the only person she
might owe some to is somebody that you're not even
privy to.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
As artists, we have no boss.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
And a lot of people don't understand that, you know
what I'm saying, because a lot of people caught up
in the debt system, in the slavery system, and they
think they have bosses that people have to report to.
That's not something that I'm judging. You can't be judgmental
with people got to do to survive, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
You can't judge that. But you got to.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Understand the difference between somebody you know and and it's
the same thing as a gangster. Like a gangster has
no boss.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Like most depth, he's an r e for real, he's
an run right? Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Hold on what happened? He just said America and he
just left.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I think y'all seen Bay. You know I went to
visit him. I went to visit in Africa and South.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Let's just make some noise for the nigga going back home.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That just makes.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I ain't got the heart. They ain't got a w
in Africa, right, I can't a w they got They
got a home away of Airbnb. You know, I'm not
a fan of Nbnb yet now.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I'm not not.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
I don't don't with Airbnb. But listen, y'all seen Bay
he decided a long time ago, if you pay attention
to his moves, that he wasn't fucking with America a
long time.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's hard, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
And he traveled the world. You know, he's an internationally
known artist. He is settled in South Africa.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
He do got some leaders. He had an international passport,
a world a world world world passport. What the fuck
does that mean?

Speaker 4 (15:20):
A world passport is so, you know, he has a
website where my man Ferrari Shepherd shout out to my man.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I got a website. I don't got a worldwide. They
got a website called a country called Earth.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
And the whole concept behind it is, you know, I'm
a citizen of the world.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like these borders. You know, we all this is a
room full of immigrants, room for the anger.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
We've done good for some immigrants. These borders are set
up by colonists. These borders set up by warring European
factions that are that are interested in in enabling white
supremacy and keeping it going.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
You know what I'm saying, like keeping the people with people.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
With murder are raped and tortured for them to create
these lines and these divisions between people.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm saying, no human being is illegal.

Speaker 4 (16:06):

Speaker 2 (16:06):
If you get drunk.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
And you drive and you kill them offucker, are you
an a legal driving No, you're not. So no human
being is illegal? Is that that's a that's a misnomer.
No human being is an alien. No human being is illegal.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
And let's make some noise for the people trying to
cross the borders.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
We are we are not. Damn word is bombed and
so y'all seen being farrari shephard. They have this concept
of just global global citizen citizensry and no human being
is illegal and country called Earth.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
We are all citizens in the world. So he can
he still like go to like countries. That's cool with Yeah,
the World Passport is recognized as certain countries. How did
he get that? You could from where he's somebody to
get that fingerprints prints the world.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
From what I understand, in the World Passport, you could
get it if you do through.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
The research and you just anybody could get it.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
But it's not recognized everywhere, and it's not recognizing every
situation like they might recognize it. I think the situation
with South Africa is they recognized it sometimes and they
don't record.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
They pick and choose.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
So I think the situation was he was trying to
travel in this particular time they didn't recognize the World Passport.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
So he has a little legal issue. He got solved.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
But you know, he's been in South Africa and Tunisia
and Morocco and he's just been a citizen of the world.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
And then how did your guys initially meet?

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Because the Black Star thing was yeah, so big and
we only got one album, correct.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, shout out to my man Rubik's.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
When I was a young we lad back in the
salad days of my career.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay, hold on, we lad in salad. I've never heard
this term we that's just Irish. That's Irish I'm a
we lady. My salad days. I'm a fan of the
Coen Brothers films.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
If you watch Raised in Arizona, Nicholas Cage, he talks
about him and Holly Hunter, I think his name of
the actress, and he's talking about the early days of
their relationships and he said that the salad days the
days before the appetizer and the meal on the entree
the salad day. So in my salad days, you know
what I'm saying. I used to hang out of Washington

(18:11):
Square Park. I used to hang out with Incredible MC's
like Supernatural.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is this where half Bake came from?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Dave Dave Chappelle was in the park. Okapelle was in
the park around his time. Washington Square Park Ate Off
the Assassin was in.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
The Getting the Head Pop. You know what I'm saying.
Gene Gray was in the park.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Most Death was in the park, but Most Death was
also a TV star. He had a show with with
Nell Carter. I forget the name of the show, but
it was he was Nell Carter him and had a
show right then. He had a show with Malcolm Jamal
Warner had a TV show when he left The Cosby Show,
show a teacher at Harlem. He had a class the
seventh graders. Most Death was one of the seventh creators.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah. Then in the Cosby Mysteries, the first Drake and
this is in Brooklyn, this is in Brooklyn, was brought
in brook Glynn, young niggas got mad shipping brook Let's
make some noise in Brooklyn being ranch.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Hester rhymes, Big and jay Z all to school together.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Brooklyn got hold on, hold on, hold on now, let
me let me call it at the seven eighteen got
the best of seven one eight. Yeah, he said, seven eighteen.
That was too smart for me. I had to think
the same day on seven seven, y'all got y'all.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Got thousands of star faces.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Bees and well, we got jay Z's and nos and
differently seven one eight seven one eight unities like black
and brown you right here, right here, right here, right.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
But yeah, most Death was doing this thing on the acting.
He had the deon Sanda's American Express commercial.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
I know he was.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
He was broke. It was an American Express.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
We was broke, we was we be in the park.
We would hop the train. I used to live flat Bush,
hop the train and go to Washington, Washington Square, Park,
the freestyle most death was the only nigga good money.
He would take everybody to McDonald's on West Fourth.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I got arrested at the McDonald's. I'm sure you continue
from the basketball and tragedy.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Story when I was fifteen years old. All right, I
mean a real story right now. At my at the
house I rented, I'm shooting a video. My man is
in there shooting the video.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It's makes some noise from listen. Most people rent a hotel.
He's experienced. Yeah, house, it's cheaper than the hotel. You
know what I'm saying. I'm frugal. We don't know that word.
Can you explain frugal. It's cheap. It's a fancy word
for cheap.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
I am now using that word for poss The news
is at this house right now.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's still potholes in my law.

Speaker 8 (20:57):
Let's make a noise for Donalds at.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
My New York. Niggas can remember this. I used to
shop at Renaissance.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I don't know what's cool now, but it used to
be on Houston and Broadway, and they used to have
the Doc Martin boots and the Jaebo jeans.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I used to do it for Jabo jeans. I ran
it the posta news. This is what day I saw
with the Hottest Blood. I don't know if you're gonna
say this is a joint. It is a blood. It's
a blood so much the hottest ship. Hold on, let
me make sure it's living. I'm about to smoke it.
I smoke the blood with too short. I got care
rests drunk, and now I got Tyler quality smoking. That

(21:37):
is not news. That is not news, I know.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
But you know why I live. Let me just this
is one of the main reasons why I wanted you
on the podcast is because you do so much great
in the community that sometimes, like you know, our preachers
are are our bartenders. When I say by bartenders, I mean, like,
you know, to pull up guys in the hood in
New York. Sometimes they seem holy in down and sometimes

(22:01):
when you just need to show.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Them that they're human. And when you show them that
they're human, it's more people that can say, you know what,
I'm gonna follow. I'm gonna follow his league because he's
also human like not.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
It's crazy because I'm you know, I've been in this
business for a long time. I'm known for a certain
type of record but you know, ever since a business business,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You remember the time he's in Larryos. Yes, somebody came
up to you and ask you for you using Larios
like Gloria Esta Bar restaurant, and I'm be drinking together,
Like I'm like, Wow, the world need to know Tyl
Live can have fun. You know what I'm saying. Because
he makes so serious records. You know, he's a political guy.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's great. That part is awesome. That's what I represent.
Kris One was my favorite rapper, so you understand that
I respect all that. But I'm seeing him have a
great time. So a person comes up to him and says,
you Live, I want to do a joint with you.
So I'm like, He's like yeah, and he's like, Yo, Norrie,
I want to do a joint.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I say, Tyler Is my new manager, looked at me
and was like, fucked up, nigga. But he went along
with it, and that you wouldn't right along with let's
make some noise with talent, going along with with my
found man. I managed your nory.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Now, yeah, I definitely didn't want to do a song
with the dude, so I send him right this how
I live. But people need to I think that that's
that's one of the greatest things is that when you
know you like like when people say, I don't know,
this is fucked up. But when people say Martin was
fucking bitches on the side, it's like everybody like, damn,
that's fucked up. But it's like, nah, he's a human,

(23:32):
like he was fucking he was fighting every day for
human rights if he wanted to get.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
A butt of a nut on the side, not the
nigga live. Man makes some noise for Martin.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Hey man makes a lloyse for Martin fucking on the side.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Come on, Martin, I told you.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Lawrence to Mars, unnamed rapper told me this, and I'm
not gonna blow up the spot this or unnamed rapper
told me this on his first tour.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
He said, hey man, all the prophets have holes.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Because you know why, it shows that you're human. The
thing about preachers, the thing about the church is doesn't
work no more, is because you see these people and
they got to gay the shoes on, and they got
to they look so good and and and they charlatan
him and they show you no mistakes. So they show
you no mistakes. Why would somebody follow you? Because it's like, damn,

(24:23):
I ain't never going to be like you. I have flaws.
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Like, So that's why when you learn the story about
his flaws, when you learn about Malcolm flaws, when you
learn about Jesus flaws.

Speaker 2 (24:36):

Speaker 4 (24:37):
When you when you read the books that are outside
of the Bible, outside of the King James version of
the Bible, when you see when Jesus went to travel
and you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, you know
what I'm saying. He gained knowledge all over the world supposedly.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
You know what I'm saying, like and had and had flaws.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
It was it was a man. But that you know that,
that's what That's what makes people able to relate.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
But Black Star is such a legendary.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
But before you go into black because I was started
talking about pasta news posts, I went into Renaissance.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I said, past my favorite day, I saw my favorite ship.
I rapped. What do I do?

Speaker 4 (25:07):
He said, go to rush artist managements around the corner
on Elizabeth, right, So I went around to that. I
went around the corner.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I go on the lobby. Tragedy is there, Yes he was.
But first search sorry right, search walked in.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I'm ass searched. I just I'm fifteen years old. I'm
as search. This is when gas Face was.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
It was hot.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
I was like, yeah, Tragedy walks in. I got a
picture in my house right now. Tragedy had the wild
dreads on the top with the fade on the side.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
He had the little Malcolm spectacles.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
And he had like a raincoat on, and this nigga,
Tragedy sat there and talked.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
To me for two hours. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Like he was the first. This is a real story
that you're hearing on drink Champs. Tragedy was the first
rapper that showed me love.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Tragedy was the first first. That's right, high five. But
you don't know me from from He just started giving
me advice. But you know what, it is not the
industry for me and all that.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
We sat on Elizabeth in Houston for two hours watching
the people walk by. I don't even know why he
had the time.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Now, sometimes you know who the next person is. Sometimes
it's just energy, you know what I'm saying, It's just aura.
Look at that look at that.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
So you and Hot Tech, Yeah, let's get back first
Black black Star because you know why, you know, uh,
black Star is such a legendary thing that you guys did,
Like this is the first time in history we were
presented a group first and then you guys did solo
ship and y'all just never got back.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah. Is that accurate? Yes, yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's you know, Black Star, Me and Most Death with
solo artists, and we had styles that complimented to each
each other, were fans of each other. We talked casually
about doing a group. We both signed The Raucous. Yeah,
Jared and Brian, you know, they saw the vision and
they was like, Okay, let's do a Black Star. And
at the same time Most Death was like, let's do

(27:13):
this black Star situation. Rocus saw it at the same time,
so it converged. And he was working on a TV show.
He's working in a movie. I forget which movie.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Movies he was working in the movie.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
After time, he was staying, this is when I knew
I can't act for Ship. Listen, let me just tell
you something. This is when I knew I can't act
for Ship. I've seen that nigga play a doctor, and
I believed him.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
And I said, listen, I'm gonna tell you when I
knew most Deep was there when I seen him. When
I watched Master's Ball, my nigga Mossus Ball and this
is my nigga I'm spending every day with. And I
watched it for thirty minutes and I said, wait, that's
most Step.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah. Yeah, That's how I knew I can't when he
did that the.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
TV player Berry in the in the Cadillac Records movie.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know what I'm saying. With he was wearing his hair.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
And talking and acting like and dressing like Chuck Berry
around us, but he didn't tell us that he was
doing a movie, so I thought he wasn't. He was
just losing his.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Mind, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Like he was a character, his hair, he had the outfits,
he was talking and and that. When I saw the movie,
I said, Okay, did he go to acting school?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Nah? He just a dude from bed Star who got
who got talent? Wow? You know, shout out to Umi
and Abby.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
They saw enough to make sure that he had the
opportunities and present him with the opportunities.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
So so, but when you guys did the Black Star album?
Did you? Did you? Did you?

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Did you understand how big like the culture was gonna
gravitate towards that or nah?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I think we just the moment had a lot to
do with vinyl.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Brookers was putting out vinyl and and the DJs, the
DJs were craving vinyl.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Carest Let me just telling people, okay, people, vinyl is
the record. It's a record, you put it on. It's
stools around, It's not a stream, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Real DJs used to cut it back, bring it back.
Your mom's got it in your house. Your mom's got
it in your house somewhere. Your mother has a vinylin
I'm sorry you all right?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
All right?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah, Raucus was putting out vinyl for people, for hip
hop fans that would starved for vinyl, and that's part
of Roku's business plan. That's how they blew up because
a lot of the DJs were pushing back against the
move away from vinyl. You had big companies like bad
Boy that was putting out great quality pop mainstream hip hop,
but they wasn't serving the DJs with the vinyl. They

(29:37):
was trying to move away from it. You go to
Tower Records or whatever. Back in the days you couldn't
buy vinyl. Raucous would put out Shabam's Deek Sermental, Lick, Company, Flow,
most Death, probably all vinyl.

Speaker 2 (29:47):

Speaker 4 (29:48):
The people was the DJs would appreciate that Racius was
focused on the DJ and they focused on underground hip
hop and focus on certain sounds. So when they put
out The Blackstar. I remember the Stress magazine, my man
Allan Stress.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Cat and Clive Vallent. You got to cover Trust, but
it was a.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Graffiti writers that had that magazine, and Raucus did a
collaboration with Stressed.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
With Stressed where they did the vinyl on the cover.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
The vinyl for Definition was on the cover of Trust
attached to the magazine.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
They sent a copy to funk Master Flex.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
He loved it. As a DJ, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I started my career working for Jessica ros Yeah, I
used to live in Flappers down the street.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
I got your clubs.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Jessica's love I was absolute.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
When when CNN first drop, when Nori Component and rig
Ther first drop, I was working for Dress, Jessica Rosenbacker,
John Forte John is my best friend. At the time,
Jessica was managing John Forte, I was fourteen fifteen. Jessica
Rosenbaum is a party promoter in New York. She used
to manage Master Flex. But let me tell you, let
me break it down. She managed Funk Master Flex before

(30:58):
there was a ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
There was a Hot Night seven. Before Hot Night seven
was a hip hop station. It was a freestyle station.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
They used to play Stevie B records like you gotta
Beliad's side.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean used to do that club. Let's keep it
going with home Base. I went to that home to day.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
I went to the Boon Spot, the tunnel, this pre
tunnel tunnel. When Jessica got the tunnel, that was a
cool peteration. She started working Petergation. We're doing lime Light
Tunnel to fly.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
You gotta tell him, we gotta tell him with because
this is the church. It was a church.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
The church is literally it's a church a church and
then closed down.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
A documentary. I don't know if there's a movie called
Party Monster and that's about this whole situation. I definitely
went to home Base. I didn't go there.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Home Base was home base with the home base was
with Jessica's Hip Hop.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Ship saw House of Paying there and the ghetto girls.
All right, So so.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
When you when you when you when you went to
that club, if you went to like like say the
Warehouse District, Dominoes will have a record, Ghetto jam out.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I would post up the posters.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
For Dominoes coming to town.

Speaker 2 (32:06):

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Like that, I worked for Jessica like Enough, it was
Flip Squad, it was Funk Master Flex Enough.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Mad Wayne Baka recipes.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I'm saying. DJ Buda Khan did the reggae, you know
what I'm saying, and and biz Mark he was down
for a second when he first started DJ Ship, he
was down with Flip Squad. I used to hand out
the flyers. She managed John Forte from Master Flex. First
record was with Non Double lems Man from the Bronx
on Nervous. The B side was a record called the Boom.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Spot six Million Ways to Die. Yeah, the B sides
put out that Nervous.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
The B side is John Forte.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Hold on for all these new guys listening, we are
getting real hip hop.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
So if you listen to what was that I'm doing
the record label He just said.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
Nervous, nervous to put out the wash black more.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Truth.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Oh man, this is real hip hop right now, get
your Google get your Google's on continue.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
So that's my start in the business was with John
Forte Wow and fun Master Flex and Jessica Rosenbaum and
she was working with Puff at the time. He was
her partner at the time. You know when when Flex
used to have the parties at the Palladium. People used
to on Friday nights the Palladium. Matter of fact, I
seen I seen ice Cube perform at the Palladium with
Flex and King's Son came out Wicked and King Sun

(33:31):
came out to Young Q that's my song that you stole.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, Like I was there for all that ship I seen.
I've seen Trench.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Challenge day Light song on stage because he was mad
because they had the record when they they said so
stick to your Nundy by Natures and your Pain.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
And when they was reading both on Tommy Boy, They're
like classic moment. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
I was at the Palladium for all those funk Master
Flex parties.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Flex. I was at the Pladium for some of them parties.
I was usually kicked out. I know what you was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So how about you in high tech? Right right?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
So this is night like I'm a high schooler.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
In ninety two ninety three. This is what Jessica doing
his parties. Okay, So I went to n YU.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
It's my wife, everybody peace, God damn it, She's coming
in here to make sure everybody's.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Acting correct, all right, party.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
I went to n y U and then I got
and then I left, and then I started working at
in Q Books.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I was doing these uh.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Book show shows, these bookstore shows with like Dead Prayers
and Lord Jamon and you.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
And around ninety five, I went to l A.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
In ninety five, I was friends with Mike and nine
for Freestyle Fellowship.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
He had moved to New York. He was signed to
Keydr Mask Dr Entertainment.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
He moved to New York. Baby. I was working on
Di'andelo and Erica by doing Micah at the time, hanging
out with them, and then I went to LA to
funk with him.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I caught a hitch hiked to the day hold on
time out. You're the first black man I ever heard
you the word hit. But look I was back. I
took a greathound bus from New York to l A.
But you gotta got that from white people.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
You just you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just you.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
He wasn't in Brooklyn and flat Bossing Nigga Saidyoga, you
got that from your white friend.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
I did Los Angeles at the bay Mystic Journeyman. Shout
out to Mystic Journeyman from Bay Area. I met them
at a club and at the Good Life Cafe in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
And they told me come to the Bay Area.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
You're good.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I hate popa collar. No, this is way before that,
but in my mind when he said it, I just
popped the collar.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
I'm sorry, God, that was hella hyphee.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Okay, okay, I might have to ask you to get
some more drinks. You got you gotta lose and you
was shooting a video today. Let's make up your video
you was doing on.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
That secret tip.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Shout out to Nico as a chazz uh Van Queen
shout a video for a song called good Girls today.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Good girls. Okay, good girls. I meet good girls in
the right places.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Mm.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
My new album is called Torter Force.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
He used to be called very Smart to Force. I
got electronic on it, I got walk a flock on it.
I got Nori on it.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
He almost he's putting pressure on it. Let's make some
nooys with Tyler bullying me.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Let's do it. He's just drink chat to me on
the drink. Cham what we do well? Tyler is my
mama bum boy man. Like you know.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
One of the things that I know, I said it earlier,
but I want to just reiterate it is I just
want to show to people how cool you are. You
know what I'm saying, a lot of people think you're
so serious. Why you know, because you know why you
do speak up for us?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
And you know. I remember me asking Russell Simmons one night.
I said, your Russell, I want you to run for
president and he said, I smoked dope before. And I said, Russell,
everybody smoked weed before? Said no, normal, I smoked heroin.
That's not.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
I've seen the show. I'm not, but I want you
to run for New York City mayor. Are you mad
at me from throwing that out there?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
No, I'm not mad at you know what? Local politics
is better than presidential politics, you know what I'm saying, Like,
so you could do you go do the New York
City No, I'm not, because.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
You could do right here, drink chance radio running for
Brooklyn City councilman.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Like like the city councilman, the assemblyman, the school board,
public service announcement. You got to vote for these people
if you have kids and they go to school in
your neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's the interesting that people miss. That's the part that
people miss.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not I'm slacking
on it because I don't even be in New York
enough to do it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
But I'm just a public service.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Now, just one Senate and his and he's holly there.
I think that I think that, you know, honestly, I
know I'm playing around a little bit, but I think
like people like jay Z Russell Simmons. I tell people
who know politics, like me, I learned my politics.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
On Bill Moore. Like you know what I'm saying. If
it's on Bill Moore, I know what's going on. Yeah,
but his politics. But it's like this.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
I used to be the type of nigga this but
you know politics, this footage of me talking about why
you shouldn't vote.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm not somebody.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Who believes that you should just vote for the sake
of voting. People be like people died for the sake
of voting. Voting in America is a broken system. But
I read I read Man and Marrable book about Malcolm X.
And Malcolm X his ship was the ballot of Man
and Marrable. He's a scholar. He wrote a book called
The Reinvention, A life and Reinvention. It's a it's a

(38:45):
book about Malcolm xIC come after Malcolm X's autobiographer. Oh wow,
it's a good book. I sell it on my website,
qualityclub dot com.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
The same as club. We don't sell any books in
our day. We don't sell No. I sell hoodies and
T shirts and hats. That the audio book with that, No,
I'm working on that. A couple coming coming. But I
got so he he changed.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
My mind when I read this book because Man, Man
and Marrable wrote about how Malcolm X got with Adam
Clayton Powell in the sixties. Adam Clayton Powell is famous
senator from Harlem.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
They formed voting Black Adam Clayton, Adam CLA. Powell. You
know what exactly, That's what I'm talking about. I got awkward.
I'm sorry, but that's.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
That's real ship said, So Adam Clayton got with Malcolm
X and they formed voting blocks. So you see the
Irish people in New York and the Jewish people, they
vote as a as a community. They get they they
get their ship if they if they want some trash.
The Cubans in Miami, they went to trash cleaned up.
They want to stop sign whatever they want they get
because they vote as voting blocks. As African American people,

(39:53):
we don't do that. Adam Clayton, Powell, Malcolm X figured
out how to do that. That's what convinced me that
the vote is worse some you vote on me, not
and as an individually. Because Electoral College ensure that all
the white people and all the rich landowners, they all
the people own land and rich people. The Electoral College
make sure that they vote count more than the vote
in California count more than the vote in New York
because California is a bigger place and more rich people

(40:15):
own land there.

Speaker 2 (40:16):

Speaker 4 (40:17):
So, but if we get together and vote as a block,
like the Cuban people in Miami or the Jewis Jewish
people do in New York, then we can affect change,
and that's what I'm down with.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
You know, I live. I'm gonna let you know right now. Yes,
the hip hop community get together and vote for you.
Now you're gonna take the job. God Son. We got people.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
We got Rasparaka. He was on a Lauryn Hill album.
That's Amer Barack. I went to Cuba of Ross Barack.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
And I met Asda Core with Ross Baraka, and he's
he's done there. He's the mayor of Newark, New Jersey
right now. He was not there. Tupaca is alive when
I went there.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Uh Asada is there and shout out to Nahanda Abbiyo,
she's dead.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
We went to Cuba. You know what I'm saying. But
that's what I'm saying that You've been going to Cuba
for a long time, but I went once one.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
You don't get to just know when that that helped us.
You're in hip hop into.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Listen, yeah, yeah, yeah, but look at that.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
You helped the Cubans go back to Cubook. Come on,
make no doubt you know.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, We're gonna make it. We're gonna force man. I'm
gonna start up. I'm gonna start up. What is it
a petition? A petition. We're gonna hit everybody on Twitter
every day. We need a hip hop man. That's the
hip hop.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
But we got the from Jersey Jersey about Corey Booker.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
He's hip hop Corey.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Rasp Barack is what I'm talking about. He ran against
Corey Booker Back of the Day.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
He lost.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Corey Booking more mainstream. Corey Booker is Corey book is good.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
He like Top.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Good, Top forty and Homeboy is underground. That's exactly right,
rasp Barock. But Corey books now, Cory book is a setting. Guys,
he's gonna make it too far.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Ras knew it.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I'm going to rasp Baracker having a meeting and two
weeks with Black Lives Matter, Me Rhapsody and Buster Rom's going.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You know what I'm saying. Shout out to rasp Rock.
This makes some noise. Rasp Barck. Lord Hill with the
album Lauren mis Education Lauren Hill.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
When he has the interviews where they got the principal
talking to the kids, that's Rasparo. He run a school.
He is a principal.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
He has a school official like a referee with a whistle. Now,
what is the name Tyler? Shout out to my parents
you know that's your name. Qual Green is my born name.
So how bad is it you going through customs? After not?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
It was pretty bad, you know. And my d j's
name is Hussein albu Becker.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Was was was was musa Ab.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
But your niggas chose some of the Muslim names. He
was born, he was Mussolini was born Muslim. Listen.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
So I used to travel with a person named Musa
Abdella and Ali s Sammy.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
It wasn't great for me going through customers. I had
to learn to leave them. But I had to be
like yo, you know, yeah, you wait for your man
and he'd be like, nah, that's not working, I'm saying.
But after not eleven, I got stopped everywhere. But you look,
what's the new nigga? I'm curing, you know, I'm sorry
my niggas.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Niggas started wrapping American flags around their head, like.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
For that's that that? This is crazy? So did you
have problems going through customs or no? Yeah? I mean
you know I got yeah, you know, I got the
random search. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
But I had been used to it.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
By that time. I traveled the world a bunch of times.
I was saying like that, it's different every country we
got Russia. I got stopped by the everybody gets harassed Russia.
Goddamn five.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I got by this.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Maybe not. I was f p whoa, WHOA. Hold on,
let's get into this story ahead. Break look.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I pulled up to the airport. They was like, they
pulled me to the side, put me in the back room.
They said, on this night, where was you? I was
in cutting room studios, working on my arm quality. I
was listening to Stokely Carmichaels speech Black Panther, Black Power.

(44:28):
He was the one who showed in the era of
black power.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Knew this.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
They started talking to me about this. The reason they
knew this is because when I booked my flight, I
booked my flight with Jet Blue while I was listening
to this speech.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Are we supposed to make Are we supposed to make noise?
With Jet Blue? Continue?

Speaker 4 (44:50):
They pulled me and they showed me a list of names,
and all the names was blacked out except for my
wife dj Q and my manager at the time, Corey Smith.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Corey Smith, he and it's Vincent Stables. That's right. At
one point, continue right, you're on.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Point, they said, do you know these people had my
manager and my wife's name. That's it. Everybody else was black.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Guy.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I said, I know them. I said, that's my manor
that's my wife. I said, why do you got the people?
They said, those are the people you travel with the most.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
You know what I'm saying. I said, why do you
stop it? They pulled me.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
They pulled me, they said they questions, asked me all
these questions. They said, you was listening to a speech
that seem violent and anti government.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
God. But where he was listening to the speech out.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Again in the studio and cutting room, studio six seventy eight,
just La the working when he was justin before, Just Blaze.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
When he was just when he was just my man.
He's a Phillies for me.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
But that's when he was an intern. Just Blaze used
to be up at night, late and night in the studio.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Where it is, mom, I love your I love his grind.
That's where. That's where I was at.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
And when I got to the airport. This was when
jet Blue was first rememberh jet Blue was first cracking.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm sorry, I don't funk with Jet Blue. With Jet Blue,
let's make some noise for United. I'm talking it is
enjoys me. Back in the days, but they still had
the t W A terminal back in just that was

(46:15):
before Miles. Nobody had Miles. Back then, you can drink
in the tecond floor. It's like, yeah, this is paper,
my man, he just came home. We just came homess.
He smokes clear paper.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, this is that official like this vegan like this
vegan smoking?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Is that like vegans? We have vegan smoke here, let's
make some noise with vegan smoke. We don't know what
it is. I got a vegan joke. I got a
vegan joke. How do you know somebody a vegan? Don't worry.
They fucking tell you vegans get the joke. Yeah, we
didn't get the joke, all right, Tyler. I hate to

(46:53):
switch the subject. I hate to ask you this, but
you know what happened. We had the guard body Care
on this show. That's my mentor, that's my that's my mentor.
That's mention. Yeah, yeah, because you know why he didn't
have a chance to defend himself. I know exactly. Let
me let me what happened. I got an opinion on this.

(47:14):
Let me let me. I got because because this is
let me hear you take it. So this is this
is the thing, right, care Rest is my mentor.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
He's Nigga from Queens.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
That's an extra that means extra more. And I said
to him on the podcast, I always said that that
means a lot.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
So what happened was I asked him about this question
and care Rest is long winded.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
What I mean by long winded is he can't give
cares he'll give you He'll give you a three minute answer, right.
So what I wanted from care Rest was YO when
I asked this question, and so when he didn't answer
like that, I know the Internet, like you know, you
know the Internet. So this is the reason why, because
they're gonna they're gonna shorten it. No matter how which

(47:57):
way I ask you this, they're gonna shorten it. You
know what I'm saying, it's risk.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
So when I realized that Chris was going, you know,
a little too far, I kind of let him answer,
but I changed the subject. And the Internet is like
gout off, that's one that does not care. As for
I'm sure he was going to get to the point
to say that that.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
This part and this part is wrong, but when he
kept you know, prolonging. You know, I understand it. It's
about like that, like you already see how we cut
each other off. You know what I'm saying, because we
already know we cut it up for one minute to
thirty minutes and fifteen second clips. We got it already
designed in our head, right, all right? So I asked,
caris this question? I said, what should we do with

(48:39):
African baan bada and the situation? Right?

Speaker 5 (48:44):
And Chris, you know, I don't want to say he
defended them. He defended their relationship.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah, which is totally fine. But the Internet wanted him
to say, boom, this is wrong.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
He's still my man. But if it's you know what
I'm saying, And so I have to ask you pretty
much the same question.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Well, here's the thing, Okay, the language of political correctness
evolves over time, and if you're not really engaged in
paying attention like every second to the Internet and to
the social media and what people are saying an academic
language and how people are dealing with everything, for racism,

(49:24):
the sexism, the child abuse, to everything. You may just
talk and speak your mind, but because people receive a
lot more information, they may not understand where you're coming
from like you and me speak a certain language.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Because we're from New York.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
You want me to speak a certain language because we
hip hop, or because we minority, or because you know
what I'm saying. Care Rest is an older gentleman and
he's a teacher. He's a teacher, but he comes from
a different generation. He comes from an older generation with
a language and the paradigm and everything that they informed
by is different than now. So the way that the
language that he's speaking on current topics is different is

(49:59):
why you hear older people speaking and you may not
relate to them.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
He'd be like, oh, she's changed since then.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
So not only are you dealing with somebody who's older
and somebody who's not engaged with the current language.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
But I don't think he understood the facts neither. But
you also none of us knew the fact of us.
Don't listen. Listen, But now we know the accusation. Caress
is from a generation that's from before the Internet. He
had a beeper still, he's from before the inn. Does
not have a business people that his phone.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I ain't gonna lie. I was embarrassed. I wanted I
told him I was gonna buy him for you've been
embarrassed on everybody's phone.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I ain't gonna lie. I've been disappointed. You don't put.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Cracks in school. As long as it's you're up to date.
Cars Carress still had a two way two ways. I'm
just playing, Cares. He knows like a joke on.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Them, but ahead, But you know what it is. Here's
the thing, Cares.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
It's clear to me, I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest.
It's clear to me as as as a fan of
care Rests, as someone who knows him personally, that he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Condone any of the accusations.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Of course he of course he doesn't, even even with
care Rests making a record like thirteen and Good because
a lot of people have given him flack, A lot
of flak has come back, has haunted him for this
record that he did years ago that I wrote.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I read his he read it.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
He wrote a whole op ad because of his drink
Champs thing that I read. You know what I'm saying,
And he said, he said a record that I did
as a joke. We used to joke about rape and
child abused.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Back in the day. We used to use the word
faggot with no remorse and no.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
We come from a if you older, we come from
a generation where that wasn't taboo, that wasn't we wasn't enlightened,
We wasn't involved evolved enough to understand what was wrong
with those things, and we engaged in those things. When
I was growing up, I.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Used to word faggot.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I called niggas punks right now, right now, like even
the term man up. You know what I'm saying, Like
you know what I'm saying. Like I grew up saying
man up. I've told my son man up. But as
a forty year old man, I made a decision to
stop using that term because I realized it's sexist. I
realized that in the Gates and the racist women when
I say man up.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
But I'm still evolving.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
As a man. I'm still evolving as a man. And
as we grow and we evolve, we do things as
we're younger, you know what I'm saying. In the seventies,
I watched TV shows and clips from the seventies and
the eighties and early eighties where.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
People was getting away with shit that you put it
on the internet.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Now crazy, Now, you know what I watched the other
day that was fucked me up.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
And this is real shit. Punker had no avenge of
the nerds, revenge of the nerds. I remember three, he
had four. Actually he had be with the other dude.
So he went in there and he pulled he dressed
as the other dude and he basically raped the chick.
And that shit was funny. But if it comes out now,

(53:00):
even came out now.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
That because he looked at the whole friends the rap pack,
they was they.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Want and that's like the good time the fellas. We
gotta make a point because it's gonna look crazy. Got
let's get to the point we're trying to make. Because
make the point.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
The Zulu Nation and Terris One and all these people
who come from a different error the way that they's
I had to go.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
We're gonna make a point because listen, because listen, we
went to we went to like a dumb area. We did.
He's the smartest nigga here. We gotta make him make
sense of this.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Come on, nigga with yeah, I bet you.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Dane is Jamaican. They got seventeen jobs. Two living languages,
of course, any from London. Anything he speaks Jamaican from London,
he spent.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Let's make that point. Let's make the point. But we
gotta make the point. You know, Listen, they're gonna fry
you on the internet.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
You gotta tell clear.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
Fault.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Listen. The response has to be responsible.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Now, the Puerto Rican sister I referred to Rosa Clemente
or DJ Cutting Candy and a bunch of people that
they rock with. They fashion a response to the Zulu
Nation accusations. Because let's be clear, there's still accusations. But
even though the accusations, you have to take them seriously.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
You have to use the word victim.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
You have to say that these people are victims until
proven otherwise, you know what I'm saying, Like, you have
to take it seriously. African abouty should step down? Nation
should should step up in a way that they have
not stepped up before. Rosa Clemente and Cutting Candy they
are they are female members of the Zulu Nation.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
They wrote a response that I retweeted on my account.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
If you google Cutting Candy, Rosa cl Mandy, Zulu Nation,
you'll see they wrote the hip hop response that I
co signed.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
A response from.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Hip hop to the Alex This is what this is
what hip hop is you know what I'm saying, Like
they spoke about the silencing of victims. They spoke about
how hard it is for victims of sexual abuse to
speak up, and how it's taboo and how you ostracize
if you're a victim of sexual abuse, and they spoke
about all that, but they also spoke about how about it,
how important he is to the coach.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
What I'm saying like, we can't with.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Africa, Body and the Zulu nation, and we can separate
if Africa.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Has done done these things, and the evidence is pretty
fucking strong, it's pretty strong. But if he's done these things,
we can rememorate that from the Zulu nation trying to
marriage it with the culture. Yea, Africa.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
This is somebody who as a as a somebody who
loves hip hop.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I've revered, I've looked up to. There's a cultural warship
celebrity worship and around him.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
And people who worship him and people who because their
introduction to hip hop and their relationship with hip hop
is through Africa and Body.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
You know what I'm saying, We have to stay away
from celebrity worship. He's just a man. You know what
I'm saying. We have to acknowledge what he gave to
the culture.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
But if these accusations and allegations are true and the
evidence present itself that is true, we got to deal
with it and we have to we have to take
it seriously and we have to be responsible because we
we as we come from a community of poor people.
This this abuse and this type of stuff, whether he
did it or not, it happens to poor people and
it doesn't get reported, you know what I'm saying. So

(56:36):
it's like we have to make sure that we step
up and be responsible for you know, even fuck the
court of law, how we deal with its culture.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
You know what I want to I want you to
elaborate on is when you said they think he needs
to step down, because a lot of people in the community.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I think he did step out. Uh.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
The brother Muhammad, which was like lifelong security guard, had
just said the same thing. So I just wanted you
to elaborate on for the people who don't know, you
know what I'm saying, Like, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Because well, because there's so much speculation and so much
un answered questions that you're tainting the legacy of Zulu
nation by not either speaking up about it or stepping
down like I feel like.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And I can't speak on that.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Man because I'm not that man, but I feel like
it was if it was me, even the possibility to accusation,
whether I did it or not, I would want to
disassociate myself from hip hop, from Zulu Nation and deal
with it my own and stepped down unless.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
You know what the effect that it's having on yet.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
And that's just me. You know, I can't speak for
that man at all. You know what I'm saying, have
you right? Do I need another Drenk drink?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Make some noise for that? But I don't know if
people will kill me for making noise.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
But listen, you know, thank you, you know, to live
because you know why Chris again, who was my mentor,
I knew he kind of didn't understand that he got away.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
We got away from that. Yeah, christ is Chris. Chris
is somebody I think I think I'm paying attention to
what he said on your show. I think it was
clear and I paid attention to his op edd and
I gotta say this and this, listen, let me, let
me Chris is a friend of mine. We have records together.
This is my mentor, this is my favorite m This
is somebody.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Who I've learned you because I heard y'all together the
night before. I did a show with him the night before.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
And honestly, I gotta say this, I wish he wanted
and wrote that op ed or I wish he would
have wrote it in a different fashion, because I don't
feel like he cleared anything up with the op end
right exactly. I don't feel like the op ed helped him,
you know what I'm saying. I feel like I don't.
I don't feel like he clarified his position. You know,
I think, as somebody who loves hip hop and somebody

(58:50):
who understands the impact of what Africa about It has
done for hip hop, I think that his vision was
a little clouded when he wrote the op ed, you
know what I'm saying, And I think that he was
coming from a place of nostalgia and a place of
maybe possibly emotion. And because I think that, you know,
the whole like conspiracy theory thing, like the whole thing

(59:13):
like we shouldn't even be speaking, we shouldn't even be
speaking on that, you know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
The Chase many it's.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
This or that, and I think I think that as
as people who love music and people want you have everything,
have context. Karass is somebody who hip hop saved his life.
This is somebody who was homeless and rose to be
one of the greatest poets and musicians of all time.
Fuck a genre, fucking music. Cars is one of the
greatest of all time. And I think, yeah, and I

(59:43):
think that we're not You're not going to understand his
position on it unless you understand hip hop.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
He wrote that odd he had just come off that
long ass cruise, which is another We.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Explained that on the show. It was like crazy because
you know, I love Harris, that's my hero. Like, let
me just say that it was that swarm was excellent.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
But you know, there's certain people that want to focus
on that, and you know what, they have the right
to because we're all public figures.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
People can just like this interview.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
We got some dope ship, and we're gonna go into
some dope ship, but people get take and pick which
they want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I can't wait to see what's out of pocket that's wrong.
It's fantastic, don't worry about it'd be great.

Speaker 9 (01:00:32):
I love.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I can't wait what it is, because you know I'm
Iron claud I'm able to defend my positions every.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I love that, I like Iron Cloud, Iron glad Clad.
What does that mean? That means hardcore? Like that Iron.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Cloud that you And I'm gonna say what that means? Yeah,
what that means some Now Listen, you said it earlier Washington,
this Whist Park.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
You said it very like nonchalantly. That's where you met
Dave Chappelle. At No I met Dave Chapelle was working
at the Q Books. You had a lot of jobs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
I was a Jamaican, yeah, and I was dating a
girl who shall remain nameless, and she had just broken
up with Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Wait, hold on, hold on, that's all. That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
And she used to talk about him and I used
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Like, but I was a hater on.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
The only only ship that Dave Chappelle ha did at
this time was Nutty Professor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
He was Reggie.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
On the Braids and I used to be like the
nigga Reggie and did the nigga, then the piano nigga.
He was funny, the nigga and the piano, the piano
nigga him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
He was hating on the piano nigga in the p M.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Not Buddy Love, now Buddy Love the piano nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
He got one scene she said yes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
I said, look she broke up with me and went
I think she went back with the nigga after that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Just keep it going, keep it going.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Couple of ye a couple of years later earlier, I
remain nameless.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Definitely, he knows who I am.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
A couple of years later, uh Cory Smith used to
manage Daily Song. Okay, Dave Chappelle lived in Yellow Springs.
He grew up Yellow Springs, Ohio. UH Day also had
a show near there. I went to the show. I
was working with Hot Tech and Cincinnati, so yeah, I
rode up to the show. Dave Chappelle was at the
day La Soul show and and I saw him. I said,
you and me used to deal with the same chick.

(01:02:45):
By this time he had did have big though he
had did have was it out? By this time it
was out and it was a cold classic. But so
this time, like Dave Chappelle, I fuck with you. You
with the same chick, but I fox with you. And
he said really, And I told him the story.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I seem in the hallway and all that, but he
didn't know who I was. He was like okay, and
then we was cool.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Then a couple of years later, I was in an Electric
Lady working on the album of high.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Tech Electric Lady on a street.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Of course, I know, you know this is crazy. I've
just seen a z do a documentary and he's speaking
about Electric Lady because you guys were trying to get
Jimmy Hendrix.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Yeah, when I was working an Electric Lady, I was
on the top floor. Common was on the second floor.
We're going to like, what if a chop for j.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Well, you remember that white cat. I used to want
to shoot that white cat. We had a white cat
an Electric Lady. I remember the White chicks, Mary no
a cat.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
They had a cat. You know, you come Ondler, you
know what the I'm talking about. They had a white cat.
The cat used to just look at me like, yo,
I'm a I have a gun on me. I'm still I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Still like I was gonna kill that Cat's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Right, it's a white cat. And they still always say
that's Jimmy Hendricks said cat. Personal. You guys are crazy. Listen, first,
this is Jimmy this is Jimmy Hendrick studio to Jimmy
Hendricks was in the cat. So they said the spirit
of Jimmy Ricks was in this cat. I used to

(01:04:16):
go to the bathroom and you know, you can't ask
to go with mad homies.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
You can't add the homies want me to the bathroom
to look at you like the cat's next? What the
fuck that cat? This cat was in?

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
This was in the studio when in the studio Reflection
eternal train of thought, He's in every studio was like
whatever chocolate di'angelo was downstairs in the base more kid,
you know this at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
And this is they say that Jimmy Hendrix. They say
that you know that Jimmy Hendy had owned the studio owned.
I swear to god, I never told this story.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
I thought about that cat years and you know this
is why I know the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Cat is special. I'm allergic to cats. I never broke
out when I went to the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I did bad from TV. There was recorded an electric lady,
so I forgot the point you was making. But you
was an electric lady. Electric lady.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
So if you listen to Reflection album, We're here drops right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
There was this girl that I knew that was dating
Lennox Lewis at the time. We're still on the Chapelle, right,
she brought Lennix Lewis the studio. So if you listen
to Reflection, he was dating Lennix Lewis. Girl again. Yeah,
what kind of bigga are you? Tyler? I thought that
was what she brought Lennox Lewis. That's your home girl,

(01:05:35):
the whole girl, now my girl. He said it like,
that's my girl. But I think he's the right way
to guess, right, I don't know they got on. I
can't tell you got the sidew We said it was
very real. He's very.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Now you listened to Reflection A Lennx Lewis, all right,
he has one, two, three four Reflection Turner.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Gil Scott Heron is on a Reflection Turnal album. He
came to this problem. He came to studio Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
I'm walking on the street on a street going to
like grat Grace for Pie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
That's the hot dog spot for those that don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I see Dave Chappelle, I said, remember me from the
Daylight Show. He said, yeah, I saw him working on
the album. He came to the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Dave Chappelle came every day after that day.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
So when you hear Rick James and Nelson Mandela opening
the reflection, that's Dave Chappelle doing all that, I'm saying, Yeah,
that's Dave Chapelle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I did not know that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Yeah, he came through and every day when we we
High Tech did that album, Dave Chappelle was in the
studio every day for that album. But this is this
was right when Half Half Been, after Half Baked, this
after happens.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
You know he is crack it. We don't know he's that, right,
But this was before this was no Chappelle show, right right, right,
So then how did that happen? Autumn years later he
starts in Chappelle sho because you guys were performing for him,
like even before his show blew Up, seemed like a family.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Now he was in the studio for all that. He
was an electric lady around all that time. And so
he got the show and shout out to Corey Smith
once again. Him and Corey had a good had a
good relationship. He got to deal with Comedy Central. He said,
I want to do the show, Chappelle Show, but one
of his visions was I want to have the musicians
that I fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
With and then you'll perform in the kitchens. One time
that was that was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Common and Kanye Okay, so he had I did. I
didn't get by, you know what I'm saying, Like he
had Big Boy, he had, he had d m X, whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
He get two words to you performed that there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Whatever David listened to at the time, That's what he
had on his show, you know what I'm saying, Like
he was in the hip hop and then when he
did Block Party and Block Party was it was. It
was the best start hill. Yeah, Dave paid for that.
He paid for that. We filmed it and then he
sold it to the movie company.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
So he didn't know if he was going to be No,
he didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
We just we just did it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
He just and I got I made royal.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
He's off of that. You know, for years, I can't
remember my last royalty check, but for years I made
money for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Black part So it was revolutionary.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
So it's like, Okay, as a black man, I'm gonna
do my own ship. I'm gonna own it, I'm gonna
put it out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
So the nigga girl, you was fucking kept it real
with you. High five.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Come on, I don't know it worked.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Out for her that awful. It's off.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I'm regret I'm regretting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
So now let me ask you this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
You meet Dave, he's a regular guy, you're a regular guy.
You guys both become stars. He makes you a part
of the show. Then all of a sudden he quits.
Do you did you ever call him about that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Or yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
I was hanging out with David around a lot of
that time and all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
The time that he quit. Yeah, you know, he you know,
he was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
In a situation where he felt compromised. He felt like
the money that he took and the money they accepted
made him they was taking advantage of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Him in like a cornery way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
This heard, you know, like like a lot of the skids.
They a lot of skids. Everybody loved Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Chappelle, but not everybody understood Dave Chappelle. Like and I'm
hearing this is this is rumor that I heard.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
I'm hearing that it was from black folks like like Oprah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
And maybe I don't mean.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
I can't speaking with that man, but but from what
I observed observed, Yeah, you know, I think that his comedy,
Dave Chappelle comedy like the best comedy, was very intellectual, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Like people didn't understand the nuance of Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Come from educated people. You know, he comes from black academia.
You know what I'm saying, Like he come from heavy
ideas and intellectualism. But it's broken down in a comedy way.
And a lot of people got the funniness of it
but didn't get the point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
And I think, like starting I heard like Prince's Princess,
but even even on some like press heard you got
a prince story, I got several Prince God damn, come on,
hold on, get the horn, all right, hold on, we
gotta set we gotta set this up, all right, so

(01:10:14):
hold on, time out quality from just switch it up.
We always sit up. Horrible, man, this is horrible. But look,
this is this is my I'm not cutting off. I'm
actually I haven't cut them off yet. You just now
see I sweat because you know you from Brooklyn. Yes,
you had flat push all day. You had fifteen hundred

(01:10:34):
jobs before you were sixteen fifteen hundred job choose one
you become an EMC prince. I don't give a fuck.
If you're a killer, I don't give a fuck. If
you're a backpack, I don't fuck if you always Princess
God to all of us. As far as making music
and art, music, creative coaches, finest broads, yep, and your

(01:10:55):
first time meeting press when you first described shout out
to dj Q, my dj Q, I like, I like
how you pick up your wife? God, damn it. High five?
That's real, high five, real ship. Let's make some noise
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
L A.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Right, yeah, she did a stretch arm armstrong. She was
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Yep, she's she's a world class famous DJ, and Prince
got to liken her DJ skills.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
She became a d a.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Wife work with Prince. This is not starting out there.
This is not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I'm a jealous God, Prince, you listen, Prince, you got
to get the fuck away. My wife is not doing
your ma I'm sorry, he's not doing your makeup. Hold up, Prince,
I'm sorry. No, she was DJ and his parties. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
And by this time when I met Prince, the first
time I met Prince was maybe House of Blues.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
L A. She was DJ and that you know he
did he float.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Now, he didn't levitate the float.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
He didn't levitated a segar. He had a segway back then.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Prince Prince knew his hip hop when I first met him,
you know what I'm saying, Like he knew, but he
knew certain type.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Of hip he knew like Common.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
He like like Common and well I Am And it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Was like he likes certain things into something.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
He like hip hop, but he like hip hop that
was a little bit more like organic what I'm saying,
Like he like like Lauren Hill and you know, like
Colm and like he really liked Common a lot, Like he's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
A Common fan, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
And you know and and and Common is one of
my favorite all. I don't know if Common Common might
have worked with Prince. He liked Rikaba do a lot.
You know what I'm saying, Like Prince I met Centric ship, Yeah,
I guess yeah. So when I met him, he said
I like that. He said, like I like that one
song you got hot Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
I have sold will I Am hot Thing was on
the hook and he like he liked will I Am
Black Peas and all that type of ship. I started
just hanging out doing parties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
You know my wife.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
My wife would do parties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Prince would show up at the parties. He was just
short hold on, how does this happen? Does Prince the
smoke come in when he really walks in, Like yeah,
I'm making no, no, walk in the party. He walking
the party.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I went to a party once in l A. What's
that club that's across the street from the Beverly Center.
The club this course, that's the name of it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Prince walked in. The club ended and Prince kept a
bunch of us in the club and at gunpoint, not
a gun point, but he's Prince.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
He gave to look almost point, and everybody stayed.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
He pulled out a little Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Wait, Prince, bring a bible. He's Jehovah's witness. Yeah, wait,
and Jehovahs witness. They get down like that. He started
having Bible studies. Don't drink. Three in the morning. Was
niggas drinking?

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
There was no niggas there. It was the only women
and me because my wife was DJ, so I was
the only nigga. And there was one other dude who
was a boyfriend of one of the other girls. So
it's Prince and me and this other dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Don't pass it. This is other niggas passing it back
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
I got you and this other dude, Princes, Princes, he's
caught in the Bible, and this other dude tried to
say something smart.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
And now the other dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay,
he just happened to be there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
He tried to say something, and Prince, I'll never forget this,
Prince said, Listen, I know you think that you're saying
something to add on to the conversation, but you really
you know what I'm saying. From what you're saying, I
can tell you don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
So how about you just not participating in Prince about
the whipping nigger ass? But I'm asking you he was,
He politely told him, you don't know the fuck you
talking to. Did Prince have on hills?

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
No? He did not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
He did not. I've been I've been in several clubs, Prince,
keep just keep going home dispriends stories. I went to
the club. Remember do you remember the Zeni.

Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
La.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
They used to have the party called Zeni They used
to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I have beg Zeni before at two o'clock in the morning,
the clubs in LA clothes. And then this dude used
to have this party called Zeni. We rented a warehouse.
He used to rend the Muppet studios Jim Henson right,
and he.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
To know these type of people I live come and
party with. I'm bad.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
I know, yeah, big big bird, Ernie and Bart and
Burt and Ship.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
You know what I'm saying. But he's got these parties.
But they used to bring the alcohol. And he used
to set up stages and.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Have go go dances, and all the celebrities used to go,
and all the basketball players and what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Saying like that's like it was. He's definitely I live
in l A. Prince called my wife and he said
where the party at and we said, we have Zeny.
He said, I'm coming, and this nigga just rolled up
and I told I had the privilege to tell him
to promote. I said, listen, I'm bringing Prince. I got

(01:15:40):
a Justin Beaver story.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
When you finish, I'm bringing Prince.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
The hell is just a Beaver and Prince going together?
Because Justin Bieber said that what Prince hain't the only
nigga around it. Remember this, No I did. I don't remember.
Get into that, get into that. This great fans hate
when to be cut us off.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
They like.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Prince came in the club right the girl was dancing,
and he said, this party is great, but why is
she up there dancing with no clothes on?

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
She was, she had clothes on, she things covered, But he.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Said, why she just don't need to be done, you know,
because this is Jehovah, Jehovah's witness, Prince.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
This is not the last dragon Prince, because it is
not like Prince Buck while back in the days in
the eighties, he was out of control.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
So I said, listen. He asked me to introduce him
to the party promoter. I introduced him, and he said
he explained to me. He said, listen, these girls that
they bring business people buy drinks. Prince, let me talk
to her.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
To convert it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Let me talk to her. I need to, I'm saying
the girl. He talked to the girl. The girl didn't
know who Prince was. Young chick, young chicken dancing the club.
She might have heard the name Prince, but.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
She didn't know She's gonna die at night. This is
a long time ago, the old story. Bite she turned.
He said.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
He said, how much are they paying you to be
in to dance with your clothes off?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
She said the number.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
He said, I'll pay you double to get down off
that stage.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Go home. Let's make some noise of a Prince being
a trick? Was that reverse pimp that's reverse put your
clothes on? Prince invented reverse pimping.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
She said, I'll take you money tonight, but what am
I going to do tomorrow night. That's what this girl
said to Prince. I wonder his response.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
What was his responds? He said, I don't have no
control over that.

Speaker 10 (01:17:37):
That's I got you to my your mother fucker. I'm
not going to call him verbatim he was besides that
one line.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Besides that one, he did say that NETI, But beyond that,
he basically explained to her. He was like, listen, I'm
giving you an opportunity to make a different decision in
your life. I'm saying, I watch him explain to this
girl and talk to the girl, and I knew from
the way that she was talking to him that she
didn't understand the legacy. She didn't understand she was just like, Okay,
Grin has had.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
An album covered with like three bitches Buttnecker on top
of him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Maybe some dudes, and everybody thought he was gay. He
wasn't ready for your princess. God. He stuck to his
guns and he understood every artist.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
And me and Nori the fact that we even hed
here doing drink champs smoking, we.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Talking about what we understand. That every artist got contradictions.
Nature of being an artist, there's one to be true.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
The person that we revere is the most contradictory artist ever,
but we were. That's part of being human, like you said,
being because all human beings got contradictions.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Artists are.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Contradictions is amplified because people pay more attention, you know
what I'm saying. But everybody got contradictions. Artists, We just
we create out of our contradiction, right.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
But Prince, I feel like it was like Jesus man,
listen me tell you something I've never like, Billy d
Williams transcended for me. Like what I mean by that
is like Billy D Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince and Michael
Jackson was people who were like, you know, I grew
up in a different, you know, a different time like

(01:19:24):
that he do Billy D Williamson, that's a hood nigga,
you know, with Michael Jackson and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Prince and then they said Billy D.

Speaker 11 (01:19:31):
Those were certain people. Know, those were certain people. I
still go Rizzy in his secondary. That's a smooth Dyn
in my taste now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
But you know, for those, those those four individuals right there,
those are the people who transcended life for me. There
are the people that no, no, no, no, give it
over here. That's right, I'm sorry, let's keep it over here.
So those are the people that transition in their life.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
For me.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
What I mean by that, it's like, you know, as
a black person growing up young in my life, I
can't describe anybody else here or anybody in my life.
It was like, those are the people that said you
can't do this, you can't do that, and they did it.
And I was just like I always looked at them
and it was like, I ain't got to be like them,
but I respect that, you know what I'm saying. And

(01:20:22):
that's why when I met with people like Pharrell, it
was easy for me to say I don't understand you,
and I don't really I don't really get.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Where you're going at, but your music is fucking big.
How did you meet Sorell? That's how I met Morel
almost well, how I met Forrell. We was in sound
on sound studios. Everybody used to say everybody used to
think biggies used to be called at daddy's house. Something
happened at daddy's house.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
I don't remember, but big, but Big used to come
to sound on sound studios and he used to have
upstairs or I used to have downstairs, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Used to see Biggie after the worried port. I shoed
to see Biggie like almost every day I'm working on
in our and uh a friend of mine's uh he
was my manager at the time. I believe Martin Moore
to say, Marre y okay, because that's part of we're

(01:21:19):
gonna get to that. When I was fourteen, people don't
realize the skits on the.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
So he discovered me. He his god have got me signed.
But Martin Maure said to me, he said, yo, these
dudes they up here, they trying to work with puff
and so I was like, all right, cool, like I
had to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I had that, you know what he says niggas on them.
The whole album was done. So he comes like trilogy, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
So he comes to sound on Sound and he goes
and I just I just remember I met some dude
in Canada just now reminded me of for real.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
He was trying to be for real, but he reminded
me for real because it's in an attitude, not not
that to that he was trying to show me, but
his inner attitude. But Caro actually came up to me
and said, yo, nobody never listens to me. I was like,
that was awkward, Like that was his first sentence, like,
nobody nis listened to me. The person that does is
going to go through the roof.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
And I'm walking, I'm hot, but I'm like something something
in my body said shut up and listen to this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
So I listened and he goes the first person that
listens to.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Me I've worked with other people and then so and
then he started quoting Bloody Money to me, and I
was like damn. I was like, all right, cool. You
know I'm looking at him. He don't look like a
Bloody Money type of guy. He's not supposed to be
knowing that song off the album.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
And he gets me. I should at that album War Report,
that basement. I was just telling you about. That's what
I used to listen to, Copona Noriega, The War Report. Tyler,
how old are you? Like nine hundred years?

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
I'm forty this year and especially and then joining to forty.
I can't wait to see what forty one feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
This is incredible about forty one. Yeah, fish, get your five.
But he wasn't really what you like. I started thinking
about keep my grades. You look whatever it is. So yeah,
let me just ask you're gonna get men's men's club. Yeah,
let me tell you some weird ship that happened. I'm

(01:23:29):
with you real talk. I would like to hear it.
I was with my girl, went to the pick up
your girl. We took her. Let's make some girl.

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
We took her grandma to the casino for mother. Grandma
her grandma. Okay, god, because you know, to play the joints.
So I go to the bathroom and some dude, I
think I think he's Jamaica.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
We're draining that. I think he's Jamaican. Did you know
he had an accent? I couldn't place the accident. It
was somebody that could have been in Canada. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
I'm there, I'm washing my hands, and the dude in
and he just looks at me and he said, you're
not gonna die your beer.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
That's his first that's what when you're at the urine. No, no,
I would And I said, uh no, I don't like it.
I don't like to die.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
I don't like none of that ship. He's like really
but man like pencil like he's thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Because he was thinking about dying his ship.

Speaker 7 (01:24:28):
And he's older than me. I could tell he's older
than me. So I'm like, all right, cool, is that it?
Because I'm out of here, bro? And then he's like,
looks good man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
I was like, you saved his life that night. You
gave him confidence. I don't know what happened, let him
let his die just fade out, gave him confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
He looked at me, crazy man. That's my story. So
when's the last time you spoke to y'all? Bay? I
know that, Yeah, yeah, yeah. About about a month ago,
I went out of South Africa. Wait, hold on time,
let's make some noise flows on us one more time.
I went out to see y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Seeing you, I went out there and hang out with him,
mister Ferrari Shepherd.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
And you know, yah, see bay Is you know, he's
a he's a beautiful dude. Like this dude is like
you know, he's like, you know, he's Muslim and a
lot of his a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Of his music in his stance has to do with
incorporating Islam, trying to figure out that living.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
As a as a Muslim but living in come back
to America.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
I can't speak on this situation at this particular time,
but I know that he he hasn't wanted to be
in America.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
For a long time. He doesn't want to come out here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Yeah, regardless of his particular political situation in South Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
You know, as you notice and be here in a minute,
he cats still travel to London and okay, yeah, and
I think that he I'm appalled, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
He he is somebody who exists completely and totally outside
of the music business. He exists as an artist like
funk the business. He exists as an artist, as a creative.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Spirit like this is this is real? Like this is real?
Like I'm not Muslim.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
I want to tell you, I don't you know, I
respect Islam, I respect I respect people anybody who search
for truth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
So what would you claim if somebody would ask you what?
I'm just me?

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
You know, I recognize the God and all like that.
If you recognize the God in yourself, I recognize the
God in you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
So everything, every religion, and I'm every gang too. Yeah,
but that's how you gotta bee. Whoever I'm hanging with.
I'm a vice lord. If you understand, you understands the
theory to one. He's every game, everything everything, you know everything.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
But but this is how this, how this is y'all
seen by Like I'm out there and and and he's
I'm talking to him and he's quoting verses from the Quran.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
And in South Africa that just stay in hunts. No, no, no,
South Africa is mad develops. South Africa is the most
developed countries. Is a w out there. There's no w
W building. There's some nice hotels and some nice spots
that I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Got the Western they got a whole different system all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Can you name me one hotel otherwise South Africa change
change the chain hotels. You can go to a Sheraton, Sheritan.
I canuck with THET Star Wars that's what you can.

(01:27:45):
You could get a Star Wars four points Sheridan, that's
a difference. That's a difference. I don't want to point,
but but all points running.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
I'm gonna put you onto the to the boutique hotels,
into the official spots outside of the SPH.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
You're very You're very rich. I can tell by the
way you just just put can somebody, I'm not rich.
I'm not no, no, no, I'm a working classroom C.
Who figured out I cracked the cold. I've seen Jay damaging.
That's no.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
You know what's funny about you saying that when I
when I say I'm a working classroom c.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
The image that I put j damage. Listen, let me
tell you something. I seen jaw the damage that I
knew he was gonna get drunk. He's my man. Yeah,
he gets bent. You know that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:28):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
The same block you know. I said, Jabe, where you
been at? A nigga said, man, I just stay in Europe.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
I get this money. He pulled out a passport that
looked like a phone book. My nigga, let me explain.
Let me let me this nigga, jarew the damage to
live in Berlin.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Listen. I went to Berlin, Big Berlin. My grimmy people.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
What specta you go to you see a post, You
see posts everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Nigga, that that one is terrible one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Ja live in Berlin. I'm sorry. That was we needed
a proper horn for you. Betting at Berlin was gonna

(01:29:19):
let them give you a fake horn. They were getting that.
He getting that fucking that fucking tear down the war money. Yeah, man,
that nigga passport was like this. No, j I went
the first time I went to South Africa, I went
with JJ. I went with j R. To Dammage. You
that's it. I'll be cool. I'll be in certain countries.
I'll be in like Croatia, some ship. I'm in a club.

(01:29:41):
Just pull up and tapped me on the shoulder. Living
Jarroal living Malmo. He live in Malmo, Sweden.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Yeah, Malo Malmo is a half hour from from Copenhagen Hagen, Denmark.
If you go to Malmo, Sweden, you hang out with
Jay Road alcoholics. But this is a fratern a working
class and cs that are all over the world. I
know where all they at. I know I know where
they at. I travel the world.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
I see them. J row Uh push your man Elder
safe artifacts.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
That's another one. That's another one. Master Aces in Italy
right now, Master Ace and Marco Polo in Italy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Right Why do like y'all revolution because I would consider
you a revolution every activist hip hop type of god. Right.
But like your biggest crowds is white people.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Yes, that happened because white people have money and they
can afford to come to the constgas, the hook niggas,
the hood don't have money.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
They can't go to concerts. They just be in the hood.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
White people be like, they look in the Village Voice
and they look in the in the time out in
New York and they'd be like, I want to go
to concert they have some extra money spent and I'm
gonna go to concerts.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
I like Tyler Carles a good job.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
But you know that's that's a good thing. That's a
good thing because hip hop music is folk music. It
don't matter if you white, black, Jubiterarian. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
I'm speaking Jubiterian. I'm with you. Let me get a
high five Federation. Understand that sounds.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
Right Upguage, I'm using it, Jubiterian.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Go ahead, continue hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Speaking the language that people speak right now, you know
what I'm saying. So hip hop the reason hip hop
is united more cultures than any music and than any
fun music. Hip hop is united more cultures than any
force anything in the history of the planet. More white people,
black people, brown people, yellow people, white people get together
over hip hop music than anything, you know what I'm saying.

(01:31:55):
Because hip hop speaking the language that we all speaking,
it's speaking in language is going on right now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
So when NOI came out like what what what what?
That's what niggas was on the street saying at the time. Foul,
That's what niggas saying.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
And whatever niggas is saying right now, whether it be
Panda or whatever and whatever whatever is going on, that's
what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Right now, and it makes it make it to a record.
Country music is like that. Folk folk music is like
what was like that? But folk music is not a
popular art form like it was in the seventies.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
But country music is like to be besides country music.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
And I don't fuck the country music.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
I'm not a country music fan, but I recognize, real
recognize really you know what I'm saying that the country
music is about struggle, it's about white people struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
American storytellers. In the music. It's beautiful and it's it's
similar to hip hop in that regard.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
But hip hop is our ship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
That's right, hip hop is our shit. Golf brooks in
them niggas. They got a struggle. Country music that's golf
works this country, is it right? A horse ran away? Yeah,
like I mean like it's definitely their version of reality.
You know what I'm saying. Music, I'm gonna tell you what.
I'm gonna keep it all, keep it all over. He change.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
It's music made by uneducated people. And I'm not saying
uneducated as a judgment.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
He was about to take some of that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
Dame Dash Whiskey, by the way, you people, you people
out there, let people know we got Dame Dash Whiskey
on the table.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yes, and we're representing for you, Dame Dash. Shout out
to Dame Dash.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
That's my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Now now I heard I heard a rumor that even
but let me feel you get into that. Let me
just qualify my statement before.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
But but I say uneducated, I'm not meaning a disc
I mean people that don't receive the standard westernized traditional education.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
Niggas might have dropped out of high school but can
still run the world. Bill Gates didn't graduate from college
but still made a lot of money. You know what
I'm saying. Like when I say uneducated, uneducated, it's not
a judgment. But there's white people in the South that
didn't have the traditional education, you know what I'm saying.
Like even the term nigga, Like even the we're niggas
political for ustyle, I'm about to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Quick, real quick quick.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
Even the term nigga was white people not understanding how
to pronounce the Spanish negro negatro, nigga, it becomes it
was niggro negative niggas the South Spain right right right,
so they it became nigger over time. That's where the
word nigga come from. It comes from not having a
Western standardized education, you know what I'm saying. So when

(01:34:34):
I say uneducated, it's not the distalbody. So okay, all right, so.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Now we heard a room on that Kanye. I think
Kanye's first feature was like with you, Is that correct? Yeah?
I used to fuck with Kanye back in the days
way before. Does that mean you don't funk with him now, Yeah,
Kanye is my nigga. I'm I'm a Kanye West fan.
Was the first time you met you met Kanye? The
first time I met Kanye?

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
I was king on my quality album, the album that
get buys on. I was in Platinum Platinumland studios.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
He came through No Idea or Platinum Island Studios. A
walk left used to own that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
It's like before, that's Platinum Studios, that's Platinum Okay, so
what studios?

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Platinum Island, which was Ken dureau Eiffel du du Duro
used to be the head engineer at Platinum Island. Platinum
Island was in the same building or across the same
next door to common room was next order to roucous.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Okay, oh down down right right right, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
I'm working at Platinum Land Studios. Uh huh, and Kanye
West come through the door.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
I'm doing a session from a quality album and I'm
waiting a Most Death to show up because Most Death
we have a song on my quality album called Joy.
I'm wrapping about my kids and my kids birth and
Most Deaf is on it. It took him a long
time to record his verse by this time, he was
doing movies. He was blowing up, so I'm trying to
get a touch of it. Was hard to get in
touch with him. Kanye came through the door. I never
seen this nigga, never heard this nigga. He said, I'm

(01:36:05):
here to meet most Death. I said, well, guess what.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
He might not show up. But who are you? He said,
Mosteff told me to meet here? Meet him here. I
got some beats, I said, play me the beats. I'm
a gonna album.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Kanye played me the beasts. Every beat that Kanye blame me.
He played me four beasts that night. All them beats
made it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
To my album. Just make some noise for Kanye being
a savage, I said, yo, I said, who, I said,
now them beats. Kanye, you the nigga. That's that's why
he got an ego, because Nigga came in. He pitched
you for you from every time Kanye knew anything fucked up,

(01:36:44):
were blaming. Makes some noise for Tyler.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
I couldn't believe how good these beats was because I
had never heard of him.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
So I'm like, how have I never heard of you?

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
In your beats of this quality? He told me he said,
I did beat on uh d Angeletti album. Yeah, I
did beats on Jermaine Dupre album fourteen seventy two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
I did beats on Beanie Siegual.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
He told me he did the Truth and then the
Reason Truth, all that, all that Beatie segull ship.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
But he said that. That's when I was like, play
me some ship.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
So he did the Gorilla mans Shoe rap, the good
to You to get by all that ship on the
Quality album and I just was And then when I
went on tour, Common was on tour doing Electric Circus.
I was opening act.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Kanye was like, I'm trying to get my music out there.
Niggas ain't fucking with me. I said, I said, come
on toward me. He came on toward me. He came
out every every way. Wait, you brung Kanye, Kanye when
you just made some noise to bringing Kanye on t Yeah,
he's too humble to say that. I'm gonna say it

(01:37:57):
for him. Listen to you ever heard the tag of
bout Yes I have I know about You're not gonna
take a shot from New York City.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
I'll take a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Hold on, We're gonna let you finish your story. First,
we need Kanye out. He break it down. We're gonna
do it. Last call, he break it down.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
He say, he say Tyler brought me on tour, perform
on the tour and ship like.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Did he say that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
He say that on the last on a song on
College Dropper, he explained the whole story. I brought him
on tour.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Did you know he was crazy from the beginning?

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Oh, listen, I was when Kanye West, when I first
met him, I said, hold on, y'all, hold this nigga
plained me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Jesus Walks when I first met him. Wait the first
day you met him? He played the first day, maybe
the first month or so. Okay, beat or lyrics song done.
This is four or five years before the Ship came out.
This nigga played me. He played me, Dear Mama, No,
dear Mama, the hey Mama. I said, I've never.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
Heard nothing so beautiful in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
He played me that. He played me Jesus Walks, I said,
And it was the Vergon that came out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
This is this is before he had a deal, before
College drop Out. He played me, Jesus Walks. He played
me A bunch of a bunch of those songs, A
bunche of those songs. But I remember Jesus Walks and
the Hey Mama. I said, you need to put these
ships out now. He said, no, no, no, that's what
nigga said. He said, my first album.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
Is before he had a deal, no deal, He knew
what he wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
He said, my first album is called College Dropout.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
These songs.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
My next album is called Late Late Registration. That the
that Jesus Walks, and I mean the Hey Mama, that's
gonna be a late registration. Wow, Jesus Walks, Jesus Walks
gonna be Jesus Walks again, cad from College Dropout. But
when he put it out, Jesus Walks was a single.
He says it on the song, this is my single.

(01:39:48):
Dog radio needs this, he says it on the song.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
And you knew, and you knew, like did you know
he was a genius? So you just knew.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
I couldn't to be real with you because they heard
a niggas used to distance tell him everybody had the
hot beast, but niggas be he was trying to sell
himself as an artist, and niggas like, we want your beasts.
But and I used to be like he was.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
He used to be on a tour bus with us.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
He husedd be rhyming and he's rom all the time everything.
And you come in the room, somebody knew coming the room,
he kicked a rom like say, I kicked around for you.
Somebody new coming the room.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
He gets kicking the rom again for the new nigga.
He was annoying. Sometimes it's annoying. It's thirsty. It's thirsty, thirsty, right,
but he was he had no balance, but he knew
he was going. He knew he was.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
Going sometimes being thirsty. He listen, when we did we
was you know my team. We did the street team
for depth jam Rockefeller.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Stopped that stopped that stopped that sound and so I'm
gonna stop passing week give it away? What was I mean?
I mean an interview moved? Come on?

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
And what was the single that he had the joints,
when he had the when he got the wire through
the wire?

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
That was it with? What was what was homegirl? On
the old school?

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
G Shock Shuka Khan, Wait, wait, hold on, hold on,
nobody asks for shots to Tiger bone.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Hold on, come on, did you say I got I got?
I gotta make an appearance at a club. We had
a video right now this hold on standing up.

Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
I gotta give my Kanye story. I wanted to give
you a car. It's not wanting to half Kanye story.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Because this is gonna suck everybody like that. Did we
drink this? You don't drink water water. We don't like
you to drink chance water because I do drink water.
What I get some water? We got water water extra HP.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
Yeah, that's aloha Accoline Real Real Drink Championship, Real Drink Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Because this is how you really do a drink Champs.
You drink water, so you keep drinking a hundred. Let's
make some noise to live trying to be smart. There's
no they're smart about this shot about to take. I'm
gonna just throw it out there. Water. You gotta tell
your story. The story is whacked now, by the way.
But why we was doing We did the promo shot.

(01:42:10):
Gigs was not here. We did deaf jam Rockefeller water
water going. Don't take that shot yet. Don't take that water.
I got you, but I think you should take to
take the water off the drink Champs, drink water whatever,
drink can't drink water, brou the gamlet all right, cool

(01:42:32):
o g wisdom. We need to be hydrated, man, so
we can keep drinking. I'm gonna let you get away
with this right now. Man, you I want you to
drink water because I care about you. You know what,
the I can't the whole toll. There was like three
people who just said that they can't drink water. I'm
just layded and just like my story, go ahead, get

(01:42:53):
to it. The story is whack now, but you just
forgot your story. No, no, no, I't forget about I
was doing this.

Speaker 7 (01:43:00):
I was the street team manager for Miami for Deaf
Jam and Rockefeller, and nobody believed in in Kanye Rocket right, so.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
They did not. He leaked that record head I remember that,
and then he he paid for the video.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
He paid, he paid for the radio promotion and he look.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
At that niggas changing the rules for you. They got
water and ship my story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, ball
go ahead. So he leaked the record. He and he
went to the He went to the He went to
the Mix Suore Power Summit in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 7 (01:43:39):
I was there.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
I was and we performed that Common was there and
most of then and at the window resort in Puerto
Rico Real del Mar.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
He's still ruining my story. Yeah, aad we forgot, so he.

Speaker 7 (01:43:55):
Organized out of pocket. He told all the reps. I wait, wait,
hold on hold, I'm sorry, Jesus Christian.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
I'm talking about in his song with jay Z and
Kanye and the song when they say uh uh uh
DJ and Puerto Rico for three days though, that's what
you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
About.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Get your story. I'm trying to.

Speaker 7 (01:44:24):
Continue, So you organize the conference call. He gets on
the call and it's Kanye the way we know Kanye.
He said much it is hot, and the guys to
take it to the radio. I'm coming to every market,
be ready and early.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
On my tour. Nobody knows when. Look how he I
like the way he threw that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
He came on my So let's make some noise for.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Respect for Kanye. We all got mad respectful Kanye Geminus.
I have way more respectful. I don't know why the
table just moved. I moved whatever you you got super heroes? Stress,
this is crazy. Alright, listen, all right, listen, I'm gonna
be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
I don't think he was lying before no, but.

Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
No, I'm gonna be honest. I took a shot with
this with care rests one after the show.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
That's impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
After the show, he was my man. I did investigation
on him, like you, I hit you straight up.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
You said you like Hennessy like the Dark, so I
wouldn't like dark. I said whatever dark right? He said whatever?
But I did you know, care Rest, I did a
real investigation, said, beef, what a relief? When were this
poison in this product? Cease definitely took it to a
different angle.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
But I'm with that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I at with that as well. But I studied care
Rest and I knew he liked it My ties right,
so we had the people, So we had the people
at the like. It just was my fucking pleasure like
a person I grew up listening to even though I'm
from Queens. I told him the Criminal Ny. It was
the only two songs I couldn't listen to because of
my you know, my loyalty if But now so I

(01:46:09):
through the investigation, I found out he likes my ties.
We get the guys to make the best my ties
in the world. We give them enough of we do it.
So I had already run. In my mind, I think
we had a drunk caress one and we had a.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
Drunk Cares, but I had one like in my mind
it was like this is dope because it was dope interview.
We had a little side step with the you know
the way he answered this is okay, I've defended him.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
The next this is my brother. You know, I love him.
It's like my lyrical father, you know what I'm saying.
But I did take the shot with car Arres after
the podcast. Now, with that being said, this is my
during the podcast. No, it was after. Now.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
Now we're doing a shot of tiger bone during the podcast. Now,
so I must warn you when did we get sushi
with this? When I took the shot with Krres.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
He's my his next started sweat. I knew he was drunk.
There's no way your next sweat unless you drunk. I
kind of when O g ship when you're next sweat?
So if our next sweat, We're going to end this
interview early, all right, But we got to yo.

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
He hates this ship and hey man, you know, listen,
we got to show you how we do this live drink.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
I ain't gonna front this chair is killed myself. I've
been I've been trying to draw less. Feel like I
was sitting on the pocket. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 7 (01:47:35):
This podcast is ruining my career and your liver, everything,
everything everything.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
You know, when somebody tweeted me the other day said
thank you knowing for sacrificing your liver. People's life. So
my liver, man, I saw my liver. All right, listen,
So this is how we do it, all right. I
think that was your drink. I don't know which one
you got. You got to Tyler, all right, you gotta

(01:48:03):
take their glasses off.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
Just for this.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Yeah, yeah, we gotta see your sideways. This is Tiger
Bowl man. You're from New York City, you know, all right,
repect boma. I used to I used to drink sing up.
This is three thousand alright, I'm done, alright, come on,

(01:48:29):
I have you has to Yeah, where you at? Sonny? Shot?

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Right here?

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
There's your second shot? Okay, I'm taking right now, got it?
That was not fair? Where my water? Now? Holy water?

Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
This is disgusting man, yo, But why you keep drinking
this ancient tiny secret?

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Bro? You know somebody gave me a water they just here. Yeah,
well you gotta take my ship. Sorry. Yeah, man, don't
take another one ty left. You can't. You can't. That's
your that's the other one that's for the coaches. Want
to make sure that my pocket and take away for
the coaches, for the culture. Don't take another one left.

(01:49:16):
So now now I just want to stay standing. Now.
I want to stay standing to you. Gonna stand up there? Yeah, yeah,
you can stand up. I'm alright. What happened behind and
I'm gonna sit down. So I'm gonna stand up right now.
I'm gonna stand up and stand up to this ship.

Speaker 11 (01:49:36):
I told you to you right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
I told you Tago bhone change your life, man, you
changed your life.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
Everybody has a tiger bone story about me.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
You notice that, Like when you don't see you, you
made a decision to become the tiger boat guy about
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
How that has happened. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
Everybody has a tag story, but you you made you did?
I remember I remember crossed over to the side of
the mission. He was like, I'm gonna talk about tiger
Bone in every.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Because it's different.

Speaker 7 (01:50:06):
You know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
It's illegal, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
It was it was the originally part of the mystique.
It was illegal. It's like smoking. It's like smoking, it's
like smoking Beaties. You try to buy a pack of
Khalil's Beaties, Hold on time about did you say beanies? Beaties?
The little the little after not little, not eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
They banned Khalil's Beaties used to buy because they had
an association with like some sort of organization, so they
banned them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Ships. Remember we used to bottom ships in the hood,
and then one day you couldn't not eleven. What do
you googles? Its tag bone. Let's think tag bone. No,
let's just listen.

Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
I'll take another shot of tager bone after I work
tonight because I still gotta work.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
That was like a Prince answer. You've been hanging with
prints way too much. That was a Prince answer. You
got one shot right there, I'm gonna join you, not
my shot. I don't claim responsibility. You did, you did?
You picked up joke? That was when you pick up
two shots to lib you committed. That was a visual.
You can't put the fried chicken back, like when you're
in the barbecue and you picked up two pieces of

(01:51:28):
chicken at the Black barbecue that's a false equivalency. He got,
he got way too, he got. I don't even know
what the word with that, poly like, I don't know what.
Come on, we're gonna do one more because the chicken
you touch the drink is a plastic cup. No, you
kind to get too smart on us. We can't.

Speaker 7 (01:51:49):
We can't let you get away with that plastic cup.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
We can't let you get away with that. If I
did my finger in it or I drink it, it's
pretty much the same when you grab it. Watch, I'm
gonna join you. I'm gonna join you, and I've been
fucked up all day. Listen, let me just say something,
thank you for joining us at the drink chance. We
had hair arrests, drink three shots.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
We just want you to have to by myself on
the oh no, no, because your clap was not aggressive
at all when you wanted to listen.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
When you want people to clap to live, you got
to say everybody, listen.

Speaker 5 (01:52:28):
Listen, let's make some noise with you'll live trying to
get a soft clap.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Out of this drink chat. We don't do that over here.
I'm gonna take one more shot with you. Yeah, I
think that's Michaelas Actually that's great, way man, all right, cool,
you want me to help you out. That's the moonshine.
This is this is this is Chinese moonshine. So listen.

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
So how many how many listeners y'all got?

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
At this point, we were approaching three million? We approached there.
In April we had two point two millions, So let's
make let's make some noise April. We ain't talk about
the money wherever. Half a million a week, you know
what I mean? And three million people listening to this bullshit.
That's right, it's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Thank you so much, YO, tell how Fu'm absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
I can't believe this bullshit. Listen, every time we speak,
we make a podcast, every time we speaking technically, And
let me tell you something Nas told me ten years ago.
I don't know why, Like we was around like to me,
Nas told me the internet was going to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Happen, that's right, like something like we was in something
Algore algor with a black mask on please bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
I don't know if that was equivalent to what I
was thinking about. But we sat in and actually has
a portfolio. I actually filmed it. It was for what
what documentary?

Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
And I sat there and when I filmed him and
we just talked about like you know, no, no, no, no,
so and he told me, he said, someday these people
are gonna pay us for our conversation. I thought he
meant the internet when the internet got got involved in Twitter,
I thought he meant that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
But then years later, now.

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
I realized that he was telling me I was gonna
have this podcast number one and have millions of people
listen to our bullshit together as a one, because you
know what, hip hop classic stories with the people who
love And.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
I'm gonna take this bone with you. No, no, no,
pick up that tag of bone.

Speaker 5 (01:54:33):
If you can drink that tag of bone and drink
that hennessy, I ain't gonna lie. You the hardest nigga
in Brooklyn and Nebraska. Oh no, that's water.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
If you can finish, listen, I'm gonna keep you real,
fuck everything else. If you can drink this this shot
at tag of ball and then finish your Hennessy, you
the hardest anywhere. No no, no, don't finish that first hour.
That's not that's water my palate. All right, he's getting ready,

(01:55:05):
all right at Nebraska and Home and the Dakotas in
Brooklyn and Day County. Alright, so look and this and
I should remember take your glasses. Yeah, Jesus Christmas, I
love it. I love it. I love it. Yes, if

(01:55:26):
you gotta take your shot, No, it's right there, just out.
Can I get it? Fortunate? Where's my fortunate? Christ? We
just drank cat urine ship. I should know jiu jitsu

(01:55:47):
after I drink that ship?

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Man, Now, are you sure you're still in for this?

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
I gotta work to that. You can quit, you can
quit water, or you can finish your hands water. I
want to see if you're a real brook Clinn nigga
right now. Damn I kept water. Yes, yes, allowed, listen water.
I'm on the water side of the.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
Yeah, you're allowed to see plenty water. But I'm gonna
keep it Red Hennessy and Tiger Bone. I don't remember
them being friends ever.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Name This podcast usually last like this long? Yes, oh yeah,
because it's real hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
You know, like I don't listen to podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
We got we want you to listen to podcast He
loved he came in here. He gave me was a
gainst this day. He said, I ain't listening to you
all the way I listened to you. I said thank you,
because maybe he wouldn't have game, because right now we
got him lit. You gotta work tonight. Big up your video.

(01:56:50):
You just shot a video. You want to pick that up? Man? Yeah,
big up my video. Good girls, Good girls. Once again.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
I was doing the video. I had a I was
called with him. Shout out to Alicia, Keys and Rhapsody
and bust around was on the conference call.

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
I went to the I went to the White House wall. Yeah,
let's talk about that. I heard about you never go
in to the Rock House after you leave this in
the name. Let's hurry up the keys.

Speaker 4 (01:57:16):
At the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
I heard a long you know what major keys are?
He dropped some gems. That story got out. Yeah, that
wils Along went off. Let's make no noise for that. Yeah,
he had the house. That's make at the White House.
That was the most.

Speaker 5 (01:57:34):
Let me I heard one story. Let me just heard
one story about the White House. Please everybody be quiet.
I heard one story about the White House. I heard
that when bull Rock Obama got you all in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
He said, some of youall niggas, tax issues ain't right,
and y'all might be and y'all might be arrested when
you leave this property. Is that true? That's a dog
shit if you said that part one is true.

Speaker 5 (01:57:58):
Okay, parts He didn't say you will be arrested. No,
he didn't say, but he said, you heard that story.
He said, I'm gonna hooe you over my accounting guys.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Right here, man, he said called.

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
Obama said, he said, we was talking about criminal justice reform.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
By the way, Barack Obama has released like hundreds of people.
Let's make some noise from Brock Obama release people. He
is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:58:31):
He has also used drones as a preemptive measure, So
don't make no noise for that. Hey man, listen, the
job of the president is not easy, is to maintain
the status quo. But let's stop being serious for right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Let's go. Let's get back. People want to laugh. We
got to get people so serious.

Speaker 4 (01:58:54):
But Rick Ross bracelet went off. That was that was
that was great, and Obama said, and Obama's and Rick Ross,
Rick Ross like.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
A true Miami dude. And he was a true Miami dude.
Rick Ross represented Miami. Wait, wait minute, no, this is
all let's tell I live live.

Speaker 4 (01:59:12):
The beeping went off.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
And Obama said, what is that?

Speaker 4 (01:59:18):
That was it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Obama? He don't know, he said, what is that? No
one knew I heard it from. No one knew what
that was. And Rick Ross said, that's that criminal justice.
Let's make some noise. Damn shout shout out to Carols City.
Obama brought us there to talk about criminal justice reform.

Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
Ri Rick Ross was, like I heard he walked in
the room and he said a curse and that me
and everybody relaxed.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
He was like what he said something like he was?

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
He was?

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
He was?

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
He was? He was he you know what he said.
You know, I'm gonna tell you what he said. He said,
he said, Tyler qual, I love I listen.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
I listened to the music. I love listening to music.

Speaker 4 (02:00:02):
I listening to the White House.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
And he looked at as Rocky right.

Speaker 4 (02:00:06):
He said, I love your music too, but I can't
listen to it in the house.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
I put my headphones on, Like yeah, but we don't
want another shot tackle ball, right, We're done with that.
He could do it. He wants to listen.

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
I want to drink some of his Dame Dash Dusco drink.
I can't thank jams Usco. I can't thank you enough.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Man. I think we covered all grounds. Is there anything
that you want to say to you? Is there anything
you want to say to the people? We got about
like fourth people listening to us right now. I want
to say people, Yeah, don't drink what's the drink en,

(02:01:00):
don't eat the yellow snow? All right?

Speaker 7 (02:01:02):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:01:04):
And the gum under the table is not candy. The
gum under the table is not candy. You're Tyler Carley.
You've been a great sport man. We really appreciate you
because you know why you so much? Positive, you so
much a hip hop activist. You're our version of Ol
Sharpton without.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
The goddamn that's my nigga. Al Sharpton is a good dude,
is it really?

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
However, I'm not no, No, I mean like you what
I mean by you know what I mean what I
mean by that?

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
I'm sorry, but it's something wh But what I mean
I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:01:38):
It's you, you the guy like yeah, he knew and
so we called Michael Malcolm Max. What's what's some other people?
All respect, it's who you are for all respect to them. Yeah,
And I feel like I'm here the CBS AD coming
in a trade all right, like see listen, but I

(02:02:03):
feel like you're the guy.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
I think that's yes sabatage this last week. We understand, y'all.
Mother Wilson.

Speaker 11 (02:02:12):
Yeah, let me just say this real quickly, please, Elliott Wilson,
you have a bunch.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
Of niggas that do not deserve interviews before teller. I
don't know where this is going, but I'm with you
wherever you want to take it. Wherever you want to
take it, my nigga.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
I love Elliott.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
Elliott. You know to put you on rap rad I
did not know that rap Radar gave me a lot
of love.

Speaker 4 (02:02:37):
But on rap Radar podcast to rap Radar, they give
me a lot of But the little talks he be having.

Speaker 2 (02:02:44):
But I'm only saying this because I have a new
album coming out right.

Speaker 5 (02:02:47):
But he never put you on rap Radar podcast that
the little talks he be having, little sis because he
he had millions high five.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
But let's be clear, we didn't shout because you had
a new album.

Speaker 4 (02:02:59):
Listen to our friend. Let me let me shout out.
Kay Valentine from Chicago were dropping her album with you.
Voted media.

Speaker 2 (02:03:07):
Nico Is.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
Nico Is from Orlando, Florida, He was very excited. He said,
he said, what you're doing, drink Champs?

Speaker 2 (02:03:14):
Nico hits me up. Nico is very excited. Now I
was cool.

Speaker 4 (02:03:17):
I was already excited to do drink Champs. Nico made
me more excited.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
You know, Elliott Wilson, this is my nigga. You know
what I'm saying, Like, I listen, what but he didn't
want to accept you No, let's keep it. Let's just
keep it. Really you're saying he didn't want to accept.
This is what I'm saying. We are. We are capitalizing
of your fun. Up Elliott Wilson, everybody listen and be

(02:03:50):
that you don't answer you you know my phone number?
Saying we rap this were inside the NBA, were inside
niggas is just DJ dj J. I never d know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:04:09):
We d.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
DJ. I gotta says some of the rock for I mean,
you're the problem.

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
Jesse, Jeff will Smith, here we go, shout out to
be dot and Eli Wilson the important participants in shotting
them out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
Because drink Champs number one, good fun all people, we
always with them.

Speaker 4 (02:04:48):
I'm just saying that because I have a new album
coming out and if I do an interview on them,
I get to promote my whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
But but but they didn't ask you to come on
first because.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
He wants to interview people who have trends. But you
don't understand that I'm trends. Tell I'm waiting bigger than
trans human. You've been transcending ship forever.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
Nigga. You had an apartment in South Africa, nigga, like
on my nigga, like like this is the thing is
with Like I interview legends. I interview people who I know.
They use that word relevant. We don't need we don't
that world relevant over here. We make it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
We use that word legend. Yeah, when you are legend,
not depending on relevancy for all.

Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
That that dumb ship. I don't want to I don't know.
I don't know how to do that representative prince princes,
but yore just women in their names. Yeah, I was
trying to listen. Let me thank you man for coming

(02:06:00):
through me in the NFL. You know we were target people.
We're both in here together and we really want to
thank you for coming here. Being a great sport. Listen,
and you are drunk.

Speaker 4 (02:06:10):
I am, and I came here in a tank top.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
This is the first time see me a tank my my,
you like Thresty, you got mad tattoos? You like threst
You're down with the Spanish game. He's down with He's
down with Eighteenth Street game. I said, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (02:06:30):
I got locked out of my hotel?

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
What the fu?

Speaker 5 (02:06:33):
I just I got a text while stop written them
air bnbs come back to start, come back to start with.

Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
I got locked out, but now I got my clothes back.
Makes the noise, m gags closed back, got it. I'm
gonna stop smoking this too. I'm tired of this ship.
Is this the plastic read? I'm done. I'm done. You
know you don't remember I had stop no no, no.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
Chaas would have smoked no. He wanted a joint. Remember
what Chaas wanted to joint? Tyler Qualley, thank you for
hanging out with us, man. We really appreciate that that
Bottrow Hennessy could go with you out.

Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
I'm taking it. You taking it. Thank you so much.
Let's make something. Oh my god, you gotta take some
pics done. That was absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (02:07:38):
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