Real Friends Classic: 120 - My Way of the Highway With Scott Foley

In this week's episode, Eliot is swept off her feet by the handsome Sean. In the real world, Zach and Donald are swept off their feet as they recall the WB's Felicity, and their misunderstood TV series.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
So is this the new norm? Is my question? Is
the new norm that you come five minutes late to
all of our sessions?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's three minutes, you fucker.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Let me tell you something. We have a very fancy
we got a very fancy guest, and the very fancy
guest is starting sitting alone in his closet and you're
what are you doing making a drink?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
No, I was about to get my GT's kombucha. Actually
I was asking. I was gonna ask for like five
minutes so I could get a GT's. Well, not five minutes,
five seconds. So I got a big old ship. I
got a ship like, I got a real shipman, not
like not that you know what interested Yeah, not that
we're interested in advertising in your uh on your podcast shipment.

(00:43):
I got that, yo, you know you got to talk
about you got to talk about us every time you
talk to start this podcast shipment. So I got that
big ass kimbucha shipment. And I've already gone through two
of the bad boys.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You might, Yeah, Donald, we were on a call has
become us ansor of the show, and we are on
a call with them, and Donald and I genuinely drink it.
So it was a no brainer, and Donald's like, let
me ask you something. Since we have the inventor of
this on the phone, how many do you recommend I
can have a day? And the guy. The Guy's like, well,

(01:16):
I think three is probably probably the max you want
to have a day. And Donald's like, okay, good, good good.
So you might want to pace bro.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
They're gonna be gone soon. Man, They're gonna be gone. Listen,
let me my wife, my kids. Oh it's a wrap.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
We have a very First of all, this episode is fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Hilarious, very funny episode.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I laughed so many times. And I was on a
text with Donald and Bill right before this and about something,
and I was like, this episode one twenty is one
of the funniest of season one.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, easy, easy, And we have a.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Very handsome guests. Are you nervous? I put on a
nice sweatshirt for him.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, I'm not nervous. He and I have worked a
lot together. Actually, we did Felicity together. We four Scrubs,
and then after Scrubs we did a little movie called
Let's Kill Ward's Wife together, and I played Ward uh
and he directed, and so uh, you know what I get.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I get nervous every time I see Scott Fully because really, yeah,
I'm I'm a straight man for the most part. But
there are certain men that I get a little shy
in front of, and okay, Fully is one of them. Really,
I don't want to play hide the peep with him,
but I get a little I get a little jittery.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Will you played? Would you play tip to tip?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't want to touch tips. I just listen. I
am secure enough in my in my sexuality to be
able to say that I get a little, I get
a little a flutter.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh okay, I.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Don't want to go tip to tip with Scott Fully,
but I I do think he's uh, he's very dreamy
to look at, and I I also really like him
as a human being. He's a he's a very sweet man. Okay,
should we invite him in?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah? Why not?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, I'm excited. Dan bring him in, Dan allow
him in. We put him in a green room. Oh
my goodness, man, just talking about you, you were yeah,
Donald was saying that you guys have worked on several
projects together.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Not wait before we get into this, Let's make sure
he's recording.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Are you recording stuff? Fully?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think I'm recording on here? Right the phone.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, yes, good, good, many a guest. I got this
sub stuff fully, but there's something that tells me that
you're going to do it right.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh, you look so handsome. Look at him looking out.
I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I was gonna wait a beat to tell him he
was handsome. Donald, you went right for it.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Can I tell you this. I watched the episode not
that long ago. I've watched it a couple of times
since we talked about me being on this, and this
is the first time my hair has been the same
length as it was during that episode. And I have
the pandemic to think.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Scott, you got an intro. I don't think another man
in nine years got the intro that we normally reserve
for the beautiful woman walking in with the slow motion
and the fan and they literally angels going oh.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
It was a bit much and I was a little overwhelmed.
And I think you can tell that in my performance.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It was hilarious though.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Eating Jello seductive.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean I remember them. I remember them coming to
me saying like, what do you want to eat? I
was like, what's a hospital?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
And they're like jello.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It is.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The way Sarah's character is so randy for you in
this I had forgotten, you know, we obviously, Scott, we
go back. We haven't seen these in twenty years. And
so it's fun for Doll and I because even though
we're the stars of the show, were watching it like
a new being, like, oh, that's a funny episode. And
I had totally forgotten how in this episode Sarah is
like really horny, frankly and riled up, like she's like

(04:46):
she's she.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Literally says, if I don't sleep with him, I'm gonna
kill myself.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right And then yeah, she said she she'd suck on
his foot or.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Something, and then he's like, what I did?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
They went They went to a lot of links with this,
between the sucking on the foot, talking about needing to
sleep with me, begging me to ask her out do it,
dropping stuff, and doing bizarre contortions, which, by the way,
works for anybody out there. It was really funny.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Though, because it's not something you often see on a show,
like you always see like the man being like neurotic
and frantic. How do I get her? And I'm so
attracted to her, I'm so horny, you know, and this
I thought this was funny that Sarah. First of all,
Sarah was very funny doing it, but she's so on
a mission to get laid.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I you know, it's funny. I had so many
thoughts watching this. Sorry, you're gonna see my lights going on,
and nobody can see that because we're on a podcast.
I'm in a closet where it's got one of those
automatic lights. You walk in and it turns on, and
if I'm sitting here and not moving, then it's gonna
go dark.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's the kind of fancy house that Scott Foley has.
Everyone he has a light that turns on with his money.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Some people have the clapper, some people have light switches.
Scott Foley has movement.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
One day, if you have the level of success of
legendary actor Scott Fully, you could get one of these
motion lights in your closet.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh huh, I think all of your closets have that. No,
I was so impressed. First of all, what a time capsule.
These things are right, like not just the references, but
everything you see, Like the TV you guys are watching
in the beginning is an old vacuum tube television, you know,
which you just don't see anymore. Plus you guys are
talking about watching Iron Chef, which somehow has stood the
test of time, because I think it's still on. I

(06:26):
think there's still making.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah. I think back then it was like Iron Chef
was an import and now it's domestic.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, I don't know that there's Is there a
domestic Iron Chef?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, like body and all of that stuff on it
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, but it was also it was also so impressive
to me to see, you know, this is the we're
getting towards the end of the first season, if I'm
not mistaken, and you guys have your characters dialed in
at this point already. I've been on a bunch of
television shows where it's not until like end of season
three where people are like, oh, oh, I know who
this guy is. You guys are dialed in to a

(07:01):
person like two from Kelso to Cox to you guys
to Sarah to like, it's amazing and being able to
jump into that, you know, it was such an interesting
character that I got to play here. But you're right,
watching Sarah and that character totally go for it was
such an interesting thing because you always see it from
the other side, don't you.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And she's really fucking funny. I mean, we say this,
this is our twentieth episode of this Scott Fully, believe
it or not, it's become us a hit and we
can't believe it ourselves. But this is our twentieth one
and we've said it a bunch of times. But Sarah
Chalk is so fucking funny. I mean this episode in particular,
she is so fucking funny in this episode.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
She's so talented, she's so beautiful, she is so good
at what she does, and she goes for it, man.
And that's what I appreciated most about the show is that,
you know, there are things that you would read on
the page, you think like, oh how am I going
to do that? And everybody to a person goes for it.
And I think that's what really made this show successful
and what makes it stand the test of time, even
though we're still looking at old TV sets.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, speaking of serious, a lot to talk about, Donald,
but I think we should sing first.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
And Scott, I was about to say, speaking of successful,
let's get into that successful theme song about six seven
eight Scott to do it?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, I like it not the song I would like
Scott fully to count it sent God has got.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Five six, seven, eight stories about shore.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
We made about a bunch of dogs and nurses and
janitor who he said, here's the stories next. So YadA
around here, yeada n here.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
No, that's the first time in podcast history we stopped
the opening theme song. And I'm sorry, Donald, I didn't
mean to question your no.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
No no no no no no no no no, no
no no.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's just about a VIP guest, and I thought, like,
give him the honor.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
He was really excited to go for it.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm not. I'm not at all hurt in any way.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, you know you're we are, we are, we are
partners in this, and I don't want you to ever
think I would ever question when it's time to sing
the song.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It was just your harmony song. Your harmony with that
song is something that that my wife and I have
had conversations about.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
We go for it, We go for it's really good.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
No listen to Scott. When we made this song, we
were like okay, but I was like, well, how do
we how do we do it? Now? How do we
You know, we made the song, but how are we
are both going to sing all the lyrics and Donald's like,
don't worry, I got this, and he like came up
with all those harmonies.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I was like, Zach was like, I'll just send you
a I'll send you my verse. I'll sing the whole
song and I'll send it to you and you just sing,
because originally we were going to do it where we
split up the the the words. Yeah right, And he
was like, I'll sing the whole thing and you just
pick where you want to sing, and we'll have Charlie
cut us in. And I heard him sing and I

(09:55):
was like, I think he sounds amazing. The only way
that this is gonna work is if I just back
him up with some hard.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
If I sing the whole thing too, it's exactly good.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Exactly this is good. But you know what's gonna do,
what's gonna make it better? If I do really need
if I do really showy harmonies over all.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Of this, well it works and we are fans, so
good job, right, right.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Of course, Donald, I think we should go back to
I was gonna say that, let's obviously Scott's career.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'll do a little we have to go back a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Scott.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
The first time I remember hearing about you was on
a very very successful show, solely successful because of Donald's
phase on but I believe you were on it too.
It's called Felicity, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Donald and I met for the first time on Felicity,
and I remember being like, holy ship, the clueless guys here.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's what happens every time he walks into.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
A restaurant, of course, of course, but I also I
mean Donald was great on that, and you were you.
You had that you were going through this phase where
you were trying to be ripped you. I remember I
think the first table read you came in, you were
carrying like a three gallon Jerry can of water.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
It gives you crazy, the amount of water you would
drink every day, and you were shredded. And we'd play
basketball in the parking lot out there. And actually I remember,
I think you've been on the show off and on
for a season or two, maybe three, and before Scrubs
came around, right, yeah, And I remember talking to you.

(11:26):
You had done the pilot and you were telling me
about it and you said, I don't know, man, it's
really funny. It's from this young rider. Uh. He did
Spin City and we got a good group and I
saw the pilot and it's really funny. I think it's
gonna take off. And I was like, yeah, good for you.
Let's keep playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yes, and later, Yeah, we had a lot of conversations
just about work back back then. Also, you know, I
don't know how new you were to the game, but
you had been working. You did, you had done Felicity,
You had done Scream two or was it.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Your scream Scream three? I'd done before for I had
done Dawson's Creek, which was sort of my introduction to
the back then was the WB the now defunct WB World, which.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Was Felicity, your first big leading part.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Felicity was my first big leading part. Yeah, yeah, and
you know it was. It was really the the springboard
that and I'm so grateful for it that that allowed
me to be a part of your show and sort
of everything that's come since.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And and when you guys, are you guys still friendly?
The three of you, the three of you.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
The love Triangle, We're not not friendly.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
We don't like you know, I me and Donald where
you're not like having him over and and and putting
his putting his kids in a in a bouncy castle.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, I'm I'm We're not like that. But but we
got together last year for it was the twentieth reunion
of Felicity. Wow, which was amazing and we got so
many people together. We went to the at X, the
Austin Television Festival, and I think they screened an episode
and we all sat on stage where a bunch of
people ask us questions. There was a modern and it
was really great. It was the first time we'd all

(13:01):
been together in you know, seventeen eighteen years.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, it was really really fun man, And I uh,
you know, I'd always said I don't think you know,
they talk about doing reboots, and I always said, I
don't think you can do a reboot of Felicity because
it was so specific to not just that time in
a person's life when we were all so much younger,
but to that period of the world of our existence.

(13:28):
And I sort of changed my mind after being with
them because I just missed them all so much, and
I remembered the feelings that I had, both good and bad,
and I sort of yearned for them.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
So, if you know, I think we have an exclusive
right here on the Fake Doctor's real friend, gott Foley
is willing to do a Felicity reboot everybody.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
That would be interesting again, it wouldn't be a no.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Could Donald be on it too? I would only support
it if my character lives.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
My character lives, so it's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Right, Could I only support it if you get to
come back town.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It would be very interesting to see if everybody is
still friendly from the cast in the show, you know
what I mean, Like, you guys were in college together,
and you guys all lived together, kind disorder, and you
guys all dated each other, but it was college and
usually you know, I didn't go to college, but I
don't have a lot of friends from my you know,

(14:23):
early that I still hang out with from my early
twenties that I still hang out with. So it'd be
really interesting to see what happened after you guys all
left NYU.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I remember when there was a controversy when Carrie Russell
cut her hair. People lost their minds, right.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, And that's I remember being.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Like, I remember, I remember I didn't watch the show,
but I remember being like, are people really up in
arms that carry Russell cut her hair?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
People were up in arms and it was it's to
this day, I think the thing that people talk about
the most when they talk about the show, and the
interesting thing is that it was scripted, Like she cut
her hair on the show and somehow it it gained traction.
Is this urban legend that she did it on her
own because she was angry or wanted to change or
get away from the character. We cut it. You actually

(15:07):
see it in season two of the show, her cutting
her hair, and I thought she looked more beautiful with
the short hair than she did with the long.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
But you know, people just loved it. I'm just just
making up that people loved her hair so much that
they were like, how dare you?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was a lot of hair due it was a
lot of hair.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I'm assuming, as I recall, she had beautiful, curly, long hair,
and people were like, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Dare you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I enviable hair.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah yeah, it looked like she had been growing it
since birth. That's how beautiful the hair was.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Garry Russell was on our show. She was a love
interest of mine.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
On Scrubs? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes, she did a couple episodes, just like, well you
did way more episode your character tracked.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
For Yeah, well don't worry, Scott, you did way more.
But uh, I know, you know you did me a
favor and look up how many she did.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
But she did too.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, oh, Donald, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
That that's cool. So now she's talented and great.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
And we kissed, I think, I mean on the show.
I think we kissed.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
We might be lip guarantee. I would guarantee that you
remember whether you kissed or not.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, I know, I I remember being very excited that
she was a love interest. But Jad didn't make out
with all his love interests. I Joelle will look it
up for me, did JD? But anyway, Scott, we might
be lip cousins.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
We're definitely wiener cousins.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
We're definitely wiener cousins. Donald and I were touching talk
about touching tips or just before you came on, but
not in real life Donald with Sarah.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
In the character Yeah, oh oh oh, well, I think
I hope that's the only crossover.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't think we had any real life crossover, Scott, fully,
and I hope not because the woman would have clearly
preferred you.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I don't know about that, although you know, I'm only
how dare you you know how handsome you are?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Scott?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
You might be handsome.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Tell me all you know, listen, I know that all
of your supporters are out there right now. You know,
just you probably bought, you know, quite a few downloads
to our podcast. Just you.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, now, yeah, that's very kind.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
People are your scandal crew? Hey, girls, how y'all doing?
I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Must have something else in common, and that is we've
all had ABC cancel our shows in season one?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yes, brutal thirteen episodes. He's got thirteen.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I only got I only got ten, Scott, how many
did you get?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
We got thirteen, thank goodness, and a trip to Prague?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That right, right.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So for those of you who don't know, because I
guess not enough of you knew, ut none enough watched.
Scott was on a huge budget action series that shot
in Prague. He moved his whole family there, which is
no small deal because you have two children, right.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I have three children. They were three school over there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And it was not a by no means a simple
show I was about. I was going to direct it,
but then I had a conflict. But it was a
huge budget epic sort of James Bond comedic, James Bond
action show that Bill Lawrence six Degrees of Bill Lawrence
was the showrunner of and I thought it was amazing.
The pilot was unbelievable. I couldn't believe the scale of it.
It looked like it looked like a giant feature. Oh thanks, man,

(18:17):
and you were so good in it. But anyway, I was,
as I was preparing for today, I went all three
of us were at work, were stars of ABC, and
then got a new ABC show that only went half
a season.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Man, it was just and it's still heartbreaking. My wife
and I had a conversation about it a couple nights
ago where you know, she was like, Oh, I wish
we were still in Prague. You know, we just we
were so fortunate. And you know, that's one of the
great things about and one of the reasons I'm so
excited to talk to you guys today, because you know,
Scrubs for me was it started out as just a gig,
right and coming in doing something fun, doing something different,

(18:52):
and it has morphed into the relationships that I've made
from it have have sustained a lot of what I do,
and it's it's made me happy. The people that I've
gotten to work with and gone on to work with
because of Scrubs have been great. And like you said,
Bill Lawrence was the showrunner of Whiskey Cavalier and we

(19:13):
were over in Prague together and you know, without Scrubs
that wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And I think you really showed that you were really funny, Scott,
I mean, he got I think that with your other
shows that you'd known for, you know, whether it be
Felicity or Scandal. You know, obviously people know that you
as a as a great dramatic actor. But I think
on Scrubs Bill really gave you a chance to be hilarious.
One of my favorite moments of of of Shawn's character

(19:39):
was in the script. I say this to Scott all
the time and Bill all the time that it literally
said in a script, Sean for lornly rides a dolphin.
And then when I saw the shot of you for
Lornley riding a dolphin, I thought he fucking nailed that.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Maybe he really the best screen direction of my career.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
That's how I would sum up that shot is Sean
Forlornly rise of dolphin.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Oh thanks man, Well, I will look.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Before I will say this, though I knew you were
funny from when we did Felicity together, when Noel went
off the rails and went a little batshit crazy, and
you got to explore this character who was kind of
by the book and did everything by the book, refined himself.
And I remember doing a bunch of episodes where they
were looking for you and we finally found you, and

(20:29):
you were like, you were completely out there, And I
remember not being able to hold it together when we
were doing the takes because you were so funny. So
I knew you were funny way before we still before
you came on Scrubs.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh thanks man. I yeah, I think I think Zach
you overstated my my talent by saying I'm a great
dramatic actor. I think I'm passable. But Donald, that was.
That was a bizarre like Season three Tangent where my
character Noel decided to change his name to Leon, literally
just reversed the letters in his name. They put like

(21:03):
a weird wig on me, so I had like blonde
tips on my hair. It was the strangest thing. But
thank you, Donald.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
That was.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It was at least a little chance for me to
stretch myself in that character.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now did J. J. Abrams run all the seasons.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Every season, Yes, every season. He was gone a little
bit on season four on our final season because he
had started a show called Alias and so was sort
of doing his time between both sets. But he was
there the whole time. I was really fortunate. You know,
obviously no one knew that J. J Abens would become J.

(21:37):
J Abrams back then.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You like, do you like Donald occasionally put it out
there that you're open to being in any Star Wars
franchises that he's suggested.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Can I tell you it's been. It's been the like
if if I was ever.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
In anything Gunberg Gunberg. He keeps getting all the love.
I mean, where the Fu's happened to? With Donald and
Scott Foley.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Grumburg and J. J. Abrams have been friends since they
were three years old. Like they were best friends in
elementary school. They made you know, crappy movies together on
their Super eight film cameras when they were kids. They
were best men at each other's weddings. Look, I think
JJ knows just by the fact that I'm an actor
that I would like to be in Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
There gotta be more directs good.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Donald's very merus about him, But I would yeah, of
course I would love to. And I've you know, every
time he signs on to direct a new one, I
sent him a text like, Wow, way to go. You're
not gonna see your family for a while. Might want
some friends around. So I'm not sure how to take
it that he hasn't cast me in. You know, you
always there's the old story that you know someone likes

(22:42):
working with you, if they if they hire you again
and again and again. And I've been I've been fortunate
with Bill that that that's happened multiple times. JJ, not
so much, not what you know.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's funny, jolly build a direct and giant tenpole movie.
I mean, what's going on? Bill? Step it up?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Do you remember he was gonna do Fletch eight script
for Fletch and I went and I met with him,
I read with him and there was a whole long
Mirrormax story that goes with it. But but he was
on his way. Man. I thought he would have been
great at that.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I know we really need him. I don't think he
is interested. He loves TV so much. But I think
for all of us, we would like Bill to become
a studio ten pole filmmaker if he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Mind making movies anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
They do. There's a couple coming out.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, they're saying July. They're saying like into July, things
are gonna pick.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
They're saying that Chris Nolan movie is coming out no
matter what Tenant. Oh really right, That's what I've been hearing.
And then I mean, maybe they'll change their mind. But
I read something on the interwebs that said they're still
saying July, which assumes that people are going to be
willing to go to the theater in July. I don't,
I don't, I don't know. It seems pretty ballsy to

(23:45):
release like a two hundred million dollars. I mean, I
don't know if it's not much money, but I think
scient movies for that for in July.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
But some things are filming already, like they're filming in certain.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Jowell just said two hundred and five million and July seven,
that's coming up five million dollars. That's that's gonna be
interesting to see how you spend two hundred and five
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
I would think, like, wouldn't you have to double the
amount of theaters because the theaters are only going to
be at half capacity just because of social distancing in
order to like, they're just don't enough theaters out there
to the money.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Two hundred and five is the production budget, so they're
gonna put like one hundred million into releasing it. That
is a that's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That is a lot of money. But I asked my
but then you ask yourself how much did it cost
to make Endgame and all of those things? Those things
look like they cost half a billion dollars?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, but when you've got a built in marvel onians,
this movie has no mega celebrities in it.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't but it's Nolan, man.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, I know, I know, Chris Nolan is his
own enterprise. Don't get me wrong, I get it. But
it's got to be the most amount of money spent
on an original script.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Wow, and fifty million game.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Scott, you're not supposed to read the producer. Sorry, Okay,
this is a second time. It's did the same thing, Sarah.
Sarah did the same thing. Scott Donald and I are
the hosts of the show. You, as a guest, ignore
my producer's notes.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, no, you know what I was doing was pretending
that I actually knew the budget.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Sarah we had Sarah on, and Joel was like, you know,
Joel always gives us little things to help the conversation along,
and Sarah just starts reading them, Like, Sarah, that is
not for the guests.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
The fact that you needed little things to help the
conversation along with Sarah, who I worked with for ten years,
is amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, but I said, I said, Sarah, what happens if
Joel's writing like this is so boring? Help her along?
You know, like, don't read those?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Okay, So I'll wait, I'm gonna put a piece of
tape above my my No no.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding
Joel Wright. Joel would never write Scott fully is so boring.
Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
She wouldn't be the first one.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
All I was saying was that Chris Nolan, I get,
is his own entity, and I get that everyone is
going to see this movie because he's a fucking genius.
But I wonder if it's the most amount of money
ever spent on a on a on a piece of
material that isn't already established piece of intellectual property like
Marvel or James Bond or the like. You know, what

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I'm saying, I.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Don't I don't know. That's a lot of money to
have to spend on something and it not work, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean just it's just the amount of
money it has to make in order for it to
be successful is just. And especially with what Scott's saying
is that the talk is that the theaters are only
gonna be half full, so you can have most distance
from from each other. So then you need double the
amount of screenings.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
You know, work. What would be really interesting is Okay,
so Trolls World Tour was supposed to come out in
theaters and it didn't make it to theaters because of
the whole COVID thing, right, and so they released it
on uh digital, the digital platform, but you had to
rent it. You couldn't buy it. You could only rent it,
and your rental lasts for about, you know, twenty four hours.

(26:58):
I wonder how much money Trolls World Tour made. Because
the model is there to put movies out, well, at
least right now, if you if you really want to
watch and they haven't really experimented with like big blockbuster movies,
but if you really want to watch a movie, it's
fine to watch it at home. I understand they need

(27:19):
movie theater money because popcorn all of that shit theaters
and everything. But I wonder what Troll's World Tour did
for Joelle? Can we find that out?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I wonder if it's even I wonder if it's even published.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So seventy seven million Trolls World Tour did That's a lot.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, well that would be. That would be you're saying,
is that the first weekend or is that total? No,
they wouldn't be freaking sorry, that'd be total. So when
you rent it, because I haven't done this yet, when
you rent with this new model where you rent the
movie for twenty four hour, what is what? What did
Trolls cost you?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Twenty bucks? Nineteen ninety nine something?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I love the two dads. No, they're like twenty bucks.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, oh yeah please. I looked at my wife. I
was like, we're spending twenty bucks on this?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, all right, we'll several times.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
To how much? Think how much money you've gotten off
the faisons because you guys are renting it multiple times.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
But it would cost more if we went to the
movie theater though, because it would be yes, twenty bucks
each person you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And so, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Plus popcorn and all of that stuff. I don't know
if they get money for the popcorn, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I wonder if that's a newty.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Seven million is a lot of money to make online.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Dude, that's a new model. They've been talking about it.
I think it's it's an interesting way to go to.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Tell me what people are going to start doing. I
mean if because I don't you know, Spike Lee said
the other day he's not going to the theater until
there's a vaccine, and I was kind of like, yeah,
I think I might agree with that.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, my wife's not leaving
the house till there's a fucking vaccine, you know, And
that's your choice, right, It's yeah, sure, I have a
lot to do with that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Donald, your wife is your wife more hardcore than you
about this? Because Donald's definitely more hardcore than his wife.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
No, my wife is anxiety ridden about out everything. She
is terrified not just that we're going to get it,
but that we're all going to die from it when
we get it.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Mind you none of us have pre existing conditions. She
has made five hundred masks and donated them and given
them the friends. She is all over this, and I
still can't leave the house.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
My wife doesn't like me right now because I'm like, well,
maybe it started off like this. Maybe maybe in May, honey,
maybe no, maybe in May. Okay, we'll see about May,
and then May's come around. I'm like, okay, maybe June.
And she's like, June is here, motherfucker. Like listen July.
When July comes around, I promise you, baby, we're gonna

(29:45):
scope out the situation and if it's all good, then
we can go outside.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Well, Donald and I got invited to go on Now
there's this really popular YouTube show called Good Mythical Morning,
and it's a hugely successful show. They do it in
a normal time, to do it every excuse me, every morning,
and uh we got an invite to do it at
the end of July. And I was like, I think, like,
and you have to go in person. They're not doing

(30:10):
it on on on Zoom and I was like, I
think and we were just talking about this before the show,
like end of July, we could probably do that, right
and we don't know, I mean, we're both having the conversation,
but in our heads is like, are we gonna be
going to do a talk show end of July? Does
that seem like? Are we gonna wear masks? Like I
don't understand how it's.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Gonna talking face to face? Two.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I mean, you know, everybody's got an opinion. Mine is
I think it's gonna be okay. You know at a
certain point, don't don't you doesn't life have to go on?
I mean it does, and.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I know, but but but choosing you know, life will
go on, but choosing to go into like making choices
that are like I'm gonna go sit in a movie
theater with a bunch of people that might be coughing,
or I'm gonna go into a tight elevator or a restaurant.
I mean those choices. I don't know. I might, we
might hold hold off on those. We got to go
to a break because that's what we have to do,
because this is a real show that has breaks and

(31:01):
ads and ship Scott Fully, this isn't like a bullshit show.
This is a show breaks.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
You guys have supporters, now, yeah we have.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
And we have real fancy ones too. And here here's
some here's some of them are we'll be right, that
I that I doll that I hold off to see
who's gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
We're like that, shame you guys don't enjoy.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
This because of the delay, nothing we ever do is
in sync. So we sometimes ask Dan to in post
to make it seem like we know how to sing
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Thanks, Can you guys give me a minute to run
and grab my notes?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, but don't don't. Don't take a deuce, dude, we
got Scott Fully here.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Scott Fully I would never do on your time.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
His minute is the equivalent of him learning learning his
lines on scrubs.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
This is glad. You know we talked a lot about this.
Will you please say that when he comes back.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Or not learning his lines, I should say he's going away.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
He claims he's turned over a new leaf, but I
think that's just because he's worried that potential directors and
showrunners might be listening to the podcast and won't hire him.
So he has this whole thing where he says that
he's he's turned over a new leaf and now he
learns his lines.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Well, how it's a pandemic. That's his new leaf. There's
nothing to learn.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I know. He also said he quit weed, but I
think that I will ask him if that's if that's lasted.
Why is your wife's instagram handled the mean Chick? She
seems like such a nice person, does she. Well, I
don't know her that well, but every time I've hung
out with her, she seems delightful.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
She is delightful her her. She's Polish and her last
name is Domin Chick or Domean Chick, which sounds like
the mean chick. So every time someone has has a
hard time pronouncing her name, she just says it sounds
like the mean chick.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So that's oh.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I thought there were I thought it was like a
thing like, look, you might think I'm nice, but I'm
a bitch.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
No, no, no, she's She's an asshole.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
But god, I love her.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And she had a good part on your show too,
didn't she. Yeah, Man, I forgot did she have a
recurring or something?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
She had she had a recurring role. And that was
sort of one of the one of the caveats I
had when I was when I was talking about shooting
this show in Prague, you know, I was like, you
guys want me to move over to Prague for a year.
And I got a wife who's a working actress. I
got three kids, and I'm gonna put in school, like
I can't ask her to stop. And Bill was like,
she could be on the show.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, you know whatever. Bill's a good salesman. He's like,
I just I just discovered who our new recurring role is.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, you know, but that it was a It was
a It was a smart move on his part and
and ours. Actually, you know, shooting over in Prague was
obviously much better for the budget. The tax breaks and
the cost of doing business over there is substantially lower.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
So and and just that production value. You know, there's
a shot in the pilot. By the way, if you
haven't see the show, go see it, even if you
just watch the pilot, because you'll be impressed by the
scope of the damn thing. I just couldn't. I thought
it was a pilot was really well done, and I
was I was gonna go direct one. I was sort
of intimidated. I was like, how many days you get
to shoot these episodes?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Because it was just we were so excited to have
you over there.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
We were so bummed when it when it fell through,
and I know you got a big I.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Got a part in a good role in a movie
with Christopher Walking and my actor crush heart. Couldn't say
no to that. As much as I wanted to come
to Prague and Boss Scott Foley around the show, I
know she's that episode would have would have been the thing. No,
But I I I I can't wait to work with
you again because I think you're fantastic. Donald.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You're so amazing in this episode.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Man, Yeah, let's get into the episode. Let's get in
the episode. Yeah, it's a very good episode. You know
we Adam Bernstein directed it, who directed our pilot. We've
told you, and he's a very very funny talented guy,
Eric Er, very funny writer.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I played tennis with him after this episode.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
You're a good tennis players and not a bit of
trivia about you.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
That is a bit of trivia about me. I'm I
can hold my own. I'm not great, but I can.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Hold my own.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's what college.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's what people who are really good say to be modest.
You're really good. I think can you beat Bill? No? Yeah,
Bill's really good.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Bill's really good. Although although these days I don't know
he's gotten older.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Bill. You know, Bill and I we don't. We don't
play together because it's just not fun for for either
one of us. But we often hit. We've we've vacationed together,
and we would like each hit with a pro on
separate courts because I'm I just can just get by.
But I love it. And Bill's is like, you know,
played college, is really good. But he would play these

(35:42):
young pros and try his ass off to but he
would keep up with him. I mean, you know, it
was it was he was impressive.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Yeah, no, he's he's good. He and I have gone
out to hit a few times. And we have a
tennis program named Christian Kapolick who was a pro for
a while and and sort of hits with a bunch
of people around town and we both play with him.
But Bill's very talented, as by the way, getting back
to the episode, was mister Weinberg, he's a very good
tennis player.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I got to say that. What I want to start
to say is that you know, we're watching these episodes, Scott,
and they're all some of them are great and some
of them are just okay. As as happens when you
make one hundred and eighty two episodes of Something. I
have to say this one is particularly really.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Fucking funny one quite a few times.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I mean about a bunch. Not only do we have
Scott's wholet and Sarah's ark, which is hilarious, but the
janitor fucking with me and telling all my patients to
get sergerty. It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And Donald hes to everybody. He talks to everybody was
in this episode he talks to e everybody.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I know Bill, you know, as you know, Bill has
held on to this, uh, this lure that in season
one the janitor only spoke to JD and and if
he was debating whether as we went forward, if if
the janitor would just be a figured in Jad's imagination.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
This is where it went off the way.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, I think episode he must have been like fucking
because the janitor tugs everybody.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
J is, He's given advice, He's given medical advice to people.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, that was really funny. Let's get into it. I'm
your bia very funny.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
H Yeah, this was this is the beginning, well not
the beginning of Scrubs being a musical, because we had
Judy and Sam sing together. Yeah, but this is the
beginning of big product musical productions. Though in Scrub we're
all dancing in the hallway, Yeah, singing on a on
a made up uh pire escape.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah. This was our homage to West Side Story, and
we clearly didn't have the rights because we're very clearly
tiptoeing around it being a West Side Story spoof. But
it is a West Side Story spoof.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I loved it. I love the musical theater references. I thought,
you know, I was, I was sitting there watching this
trying to think of the sort of the theme. And
you know, they talk about competition, but but whether it's
whether it's you, j D and Turk or Cox and Kelso,
like it's it's not necessarily competition, but there's a power
struggle happening here with all these characters, which was really

(38:03):
interesting to watch. And I thought the you know, we're
not obviously not there yet, but I thought that the resolution,
especially when it came to you guys a storyline, was
a great one.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah. Yeah, it is about. It's about I guess that's
the theme in the two main storyline. I mean not
the two main because you and Sarah one, the Cox
Kelso one, and the me Donald on is is competing
with your peers, And you're right, it is the first
time we get into all these games that Donald and
I would play over the years. Uh, these stupid, these
stupid little challenges. You know, what was the one with

(38:34):
hide the saltine and all the many things.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But this was the first tower finger.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
And they're all very They're all named in a very
Bill Lawrence way, you know, like steak is just called steak,
it's just but but even what Cox calls the nerve
coffee nurse like it. It's so simple the way Bill
names things.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
And it's hilarious, by the way, a little bit of
trivia coffee nurs. I don't know if you know this
is uh, Matt Tarsus's beautiful wife, Katie Tarsus.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Matt, I didn't know that, Matt. I didn't you know
Matt Tarsis Scott fully, Yeah, I know Matt, but I
didn't know that was his wife.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Matt Tarsus Is was one of our great writers on
Scrubs and he created, along with me, are our ABC
show that didn't work Alex inc And uh, he's a
great human being and has a beautiful wife. And I
stopped and I was like, that's Katie Tarsus playing coffee nurse.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
She was great.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
And I texted and I said, your wife is so
beautiful in this episode and he said yes, And I said,
I'm not gonna say never mind what you got done,
you got anything else? This dude is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
What's the name of the gentleman who played with Red Stoler?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Is his name?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
So good?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
This guy. I got to tell you, if you are
a director or a filmmaker or a showrunner, you need
to hire this guy because every sentence he said, I
laughed out loud.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Out loud. I remember laughing when we were making the
show and him doing this. The lines in the thing
the Chicken that he shit had me going for days.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
He takes the funniest he takes the funniest stutter, and
I tried to write it down because the word what
he's trying to say is no, you said chicken. But
what it comes out is he goes, no, you chicken again,
and like, I don't know, you can't write that in
a script. That's just an actor coming up with something funny.
It was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
He's been around for years. He's that character actor guy
who just pops up and he slays every time you
see him. He's got such a dry sense of humor
that is innately watchable.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
There is this there is this type of really funny actor.
They're often called character actors that like Fred that can
that and Bill would hire lots of them on the
show over the years, and he jokingly would call him
his assassins. And Bob Pundennen is another one. And they
would just come on and they would have like a
few lines, but everything they said was was and uh.

(41:01):
And I just want to say to Fred and anyone
who knows Fred, every single thing you said on this
episode made us laugh.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, he came back to later on, not you know,
seasons later. Actually I thought he would be somebody who
would come back into the hospital over and over again.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I think, yeah, when this was, when this episode was done,
I remember telling Bill like, you got to have that
guy back, you got to have him. Yeah, he should
be a regular. He's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
He was really funny. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
On the treadmill. Yeah, oh god, one, you look great.
You got that young you got that young body where
the shoulders haven't really caught up yet. You know what
I mean where they're like huge, your shoulders.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Like so high and everything.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You know what I'm talking about. When you're like a baby,
you know what you're talking about. You start growing lats
and ship Anyway, Uh, when making that the fall, was
that you? Or was that the same question asking you
to do it?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
The fall was me? I was.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I was terrified about this. This was the scene in
the script that had me the most nervous, and for
ridiculous reasons, like there is something about watching people run
on screen that you can look the gate, your gate.
You can look like an idiot, or you can look okay.
You know, like if you you see people run on screen,
you're like, that's a weird run. That's it, and it's

(42:18):
it's quick and easy to judge. So I was very
nervous about that. But I also felt that the here
far be it for me to be a writer. But
I felt that the scene needed like a button at
the end. It didn't, It didn't come together quite right.
And I remember the first time I thought about doing it,
and in the scene I just halfway through the first take,
I decided to do it, and everyone flipped out, like

(42:41):
we didn't even like they're like are you okay? Oh
my god, what happened?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Can we get a medican here?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Someone?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I was like, no, no, no, no, it was a bit.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
It was a bit. Guy. That's pretty courageous of you
to do a unscheduled, almost proudfall on a treadmill running.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
That's advanced, Scott, Thank you, my friend. Well, I pride
myself on physical comedy, although I never get to do it.
My wife sichem at home and my wife is sick
of it.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
But it was.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
It was Unfortunately they liked it after they calmed down
and I had to do it, you know, seven more times.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Right, Well, good thing you survived. I liked it because
you were such a good ying yang for Sarah, because
you're both sort of goofy and nervous and neurotic, and
it was just so she's doing all this ridiculous stuff
and you're seemingly holding it together and then she looks
away and you trip on the treadmill. I thought that

(43:31):
was really funny.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Thanks man.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It was.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
You know, finding it's always a hard thing when you
first come onto a show. Even even though you guys
were in your first season. This is the twentieth episode,
so to try to establish a character amongst all these
other characters is a really hard thing to do. And
Sarah and I talked about it a bit, and you know,
I think what we came up with for Sean and
worked ultimately. You know, he got a little more confident

(43:55):
as the show went on and his episodes got there.
But it was fun playing this sort of nervous, neurotic,
uh somewhat insecure kid. It was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, you're your your character arc throughout the show is
it's really it's very interesting because you do start off,
you and Sarah are pretty much the same character. You're
just the male version of her. And then all of
a sudden you develop this confidence, right, and then you
lose this confidence all of a sudden when she breaks
up with you out of nowhere, you know, when you
grow the beard and.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
And and he for learnedly rides a dolphin.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
They had me doing some strange things, which I hope
we get to talk about in future episodes. Look at
where I am inviting myself over.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
You know, absolutely, Scott, you are so good for our
ratings that we are to have you back. I hope
you'll come back on episodes.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
You have nothing to do with I would love to
just to make fun of people.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Know, we're already you're you're, we're already inviting you back
because we have to talk about SeaWorld.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Uh and uh oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I would like to say that I know younger support SeaWorld,
but at the time we were happy to go to
the Sea World.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I remember being so pissed off because I couldn't go.
None of my scenes were at Sea World, not so
let me run straight. Let me get this straight. Y'all
are all gone to San Diego to hang out for
a night in San Diego and ride dolphins and I
gotta stay back at the mofucking hospital was I was
so pissed.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It was so fun. But this was all before we
all saw the documentary Blackfish.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
And yes, and now we don't. We don't go there anymore.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Now we we encourage people to not go there anymore.
But before we were.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
All, before we knew, before we knew, before we were
animal woke and Scott, you you did get to forlornly
ride a dolphin, which is one of the coolest things
anyone could ever do in their career.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
The things that I got to do on this show
were still some of the highlights of my career. I mean,
between riding on the dolphin, doing this Betty the seal bit.
I don't know if you remember this, but I had
like a phone call with Sarah and I turned my
head in this steal turns his head towards me, and
I look away like it sticks its tongue out of me.

(46:03):
I got to be like a like damn close to
a killer whale and a bluga whale, and it was
a it was a really amazing experience, and I'll never
forget it.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Think how sad that whale was, Scott while you were
acting with it.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I had no idea. It didn't let on, you're.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Gonna get mail for that one.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Scott's I had no idea. I did not know.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I didn't say a damn thing.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I would have been.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I would have had his bad Listen.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
We're trying to buy it back with some karma now
by saying don't support it any longer. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
There you go, boy.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
All right, let's talk about let's talk about when he goes.
I love when he goes what are you eight eleven?

Speaker 4 (46:46):
With?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
With with Hoffner, I go, he goes, what are you
serving for dinner? The night, and I go, that's that's
not really my area. He goes, I'd like chicken.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That guy was great.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
He just chicken, chicken, chicken.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
So I was I don't know where. I don't know
where in the show that is, But I want to
talk for a second about you two singing on the
fire escape. Yeah, which was a I loved it, and
I loved the musical theater references, and those are something
that find a home throughout the life of this television show.

(47:24):
But the smile that you had on your face, Zach,
we were unable to hide made me rewind it two
or three times to be like, is he just smiling
because he's singing?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Or no, no, no, he can't hold back his laugher Scott,
I had a Phantom of the opera beach towel hung
on my wall as a child.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I'm very aware this was me living my best life.
It was your Seinfeld moment. Someone your Seinfeld moment, unable
to hide your smile.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Someone was paying me well to hold donald and sing
musical theater to him. I was like, how could life
get better than this?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
It was fantastic, and I appreciated you not being able
to contain your Life show.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Getting a getting a lead in a TV show was
was enough. Now you're letting me sing a love song
to Donald on a fire escape. Come on.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
It was great. And by the way, the way you
guys did the dancing in the hallway, everybody looked professional
was going far.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Everyone well, obviously everyone that wasn't the lead was a
dancer and.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
The best I've ever seen Sarah dance. Also to me to.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Sarah can dance, Sarah, she can't sing, but she can dance.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Dude. She was on fire and this ship, dude, like
I've seen Sarah dance, and Sarah dances like you know,
Sarah Dan, I'm not gonna do. She knows. Sarah dances
like she dances.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well, she knows her. She has her little thing she does,
which was agnorable. But she she was doing like full
on you know, Broadway choreography.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, dude, yes he was. But Rob Mashio, Rob Mascio,
did you know? I wonder if Rob Maschio ever did
musical theater. I bet he did. I bet he did.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
We should have a section where we go to Rob.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
This is a Bill Lawrence question.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
No, we should go to Rob. And now we go
to Rob.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
No, he's like a correspondent.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Rob. Yeah, going to Rob live. Rob is a very
successful realtor now at the beach. Scott. I don't know
if you know that. So when you're ready to buy
your beach house, you better use Rob Mashio.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I'm not going to be ready to buy my beach
house for a while, well one, but I'll use him
when I do.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yes, I encourage anyone. We always like to give Rob
shout outs. You can get Rob on cameo and you
can pay him a nominal fee to send you a
video where he high fives your friends. So go on
cameo and hire Rob Mashio. And of course, if you're
looking for real estate on the West side of Los Angeles,
we encourage you to hire him.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I'd like to go on cameo and have him and
pay him whatever it costs just to watch him run line.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
By the way, Scott, I'm going to I don't know
what's your birthday, I'm going to send you a cameo
from Rob.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Oh, that's great.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
July fifteenth, that's coming on, it's coming up.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Hope Rob will give it to me for free, but
if not, I'm willing no, no, no cameo makes your pay. Okay,
I'm gonna donald. Don't you think we should hire Rob
to give sent Scott Follio a high five cameo?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I think that would be the best thing ever. And
if you have to share it too, you.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Know you can get Really my brother loves baseball more
than anything, and they have like old school you know,
they have sports players. Is that what you call them? Sports?
Sports players? Sports people? Sure, athletes, Yes, they have athletes, athletes,
sports players. They have famous sports players and uh and.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Ball and bad guys.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
But some of them are like I don't know if
you like Lenny Dykestrong. Don't if you've heard Lenny Dykstraw
starring lately, but he's you know, he's gotten a little wacky.
And I was thinking about getting Leny Dyster from my
brother to like send him a message.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Are you guys on that you do cameo?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I'm not on there, but I I occasionally scroll it
because there's some people that I think would be very
funny to hire for other people. Yeah, and uh, and
so I've I've thought about it, but uh, like, like
I saw Olivia Wilde I follow on Instagram and I'm
friends with her, and she she loved that that documentary Cheer.
I don't know if you saw Cheer, yes, but one

(51:15):
of her friends hired all the kids, all the kids
from Cheer are on there, hired every single one of
them to send her birthday messages, and so for her
feed on her birthday was all the kids from Cheers
sending your birthday messages. I thought that was that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
That's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
So there you go, gift, it's a great gift idea.
There you go, I'm giving. I'm giving Cameo a shout out.
Although Donald and I are not on there.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Have you guys, Have you guys ever met anyone that's
as competitive as these guys are on the show that
just you know, uh, you are competent. You think I'm competitive?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
No, not in life, but sports wise, you are when
it comes to when you were in the day.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
When it comes to playing sports against anyone, absolutely, regardless
of what it is, I want to win your absolutely.
By wait, I don't know if you know anybody in
life that's like that, other than Bill Lawrence. I was
gonna say Bil Laura, but other than Bill Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Hill is the most competitive person I know in real life.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Where you where it's like, you can't walk, don't walk
faster than him, He's gonna think it's a race.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, this is probably why it's in the scripts, because.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I have a funny Bill Lawrence walking story. We were
in We took a trip from Probue when we were
shooting Whiskey Cavalier over to Amsterdam. And if you guys
have never been there, it's a huge bicycle culture, right,
Everyone rides bikes around. So we're walking down the sidewalks
and wherever you wherever you are, you're inundated with these
bicycle bells ringing constantly telling you to get out of

(52:34):
the way, and you don't know where they're coming from,
and you're looking behind you and you're always stepping off
trying to get out of the way. And we were
walking down and there was nobody around us. It had
to be two in the morning. We've just seen a
raiding concert in Amsterdam.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Every show episode.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Shout out my wife was he you know, Bill was like,
we're gonna go fly to Amsterdam and go see him.
And he does this song and my wife is like,
oh my god, yes to sing only you. So of
course in the middle of this thing, He's like and
for Marika, only you, and she's like tearing up. I'm like,
I think he's making fun of you.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
He doesn't want to sing the song. But we're we're
walking back to the hotel and there's you know, it's dead,
it's two in the morning, and there are all these
bikes parked along. Nobody's riding bikes, but they're all sort
of chained up along the sidewalk and we're walking. Bill's
a couple uh steps ahead of me and I ring
one of these locked up bikes bells. He damn near

(53:30):
went to his knees.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
He was so afraid.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
He was such a PTSD. I've never seen Bill.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Like oh God like he he.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I don't think he'll ever go back to Amsterdam, because.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
All right, we went to Amsterdam together.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, Donald and I went to Amscham together.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh that was dangerous.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah. I don't know if we can tell any of
those stories.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I don't think we can.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I know they want to hear it. We had some
good time in Amstam.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Did you guys have a good time in Amsterdam? It
was the best, the best, Yeah, I mean it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah, it wasn't like that kind of good time because
we were sort of was with work people, I know,
but it was that kind of good time.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
He tried God's let Us and it was delicious.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Oh Jesus, you didn't have one of those what are those?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
What? This was before God's let us? This is before
God's let Us was legal in California. We were really Yeah,
they really like it over there, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Now we had it was a moon pie or there's
something like that over there that you eat and it
just wrecks you.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I wish, I mean, I wish I would have known.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Guys, this is a real show. Now we're not just
two guys doing this out of their closets. We have
to go to advertisers. Will be right, We'll be right back.
We're back. I'm looking at I'm looking at both Scott
Fully and Donald Faison in their closets. Scott's has to

(54:53):
continually wave his arm to make his lights go. I
wish we were recording the video of this, because it
would be the light.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
We'll start putting them out. We'll start putting one, all right,
bring them in.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Joelle and uh Dana just the mic for Donald's Oprah
introduction because you know it can get loud.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Donald, please adjust your mic for the Okay, I'll back
up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
It's okay. Worried about it. No, he's ready. He's a professional.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Donald.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Here comes Jenny.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jenny Pulston.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I think it's Puleston. Is it Puleston?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Jenny, Yes, that's correct, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Hi, Jenny, welcome to Fake Doctor's Real Friends. You picked
a very good day to beyond because we have a
very funny and handsome guest named Scott Foley. You might
know him from the show Scandal, Felicity, Whiskey, Fox Trot,
Scrub Whiskey Cavalier. Hy Jenny, Sorry, Scott, Scott. Scott, Scott,

(56:00):
do not flirt with Jenny. Okay, this is our God.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
She's there, got all the flags behind her. She looks fantastic.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Jenny, are you where are you calling in from?

Speaker 3 (56:08):
So?

Speaker 6 (56:08):
I live in Canberra, Australia. Canberra is the capital city
of my fine country on.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
The West Coast.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Yes it is, Scott.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Scott's showing off that he knows it's on the West Coast.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I lived in Australia Jenny, I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Wait, when did you live in Australia as a kid.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I lived in Sydney for four years and snives Sydney.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Wow is it near?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Is it near Perth?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Okay Jesus, but it's near Melbourne.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
No, well, Sydney is near Melbourne closer.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
But no, it's on the west coast of Australia. This
is so embarrassing. I want I want everyone to know
that the American public school system spends very little time
on geography. I think it was like two weeks in
seventh grade or Australia. Yes, yes, Jenny, thank you for
coming on the show. Do you have a question for
any of us? You can ask us anything, ask us anything.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
Yeah, I just wanted to say I started watching your
show when I was in my early twenties, like you
guys were, and it really resonated with me. Then I
just started my career. I had a mentor you know,
learning to do things on your own without a safety net.
And then I watched the series again a few years
later when I had my children and they were babies

(57:23):
and I was up at the night, I put it
on and certain episodes resonated in a different way because
I a parent and researched every school holidays and there's
something new that pops up that's, you know, based on
an experience that I've just had. It just makes me
think of, you know, something different. So I just wanted

(57:43):
to know, with your experience of the last twenty years,
what advice would you give to your younger selves?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Now?

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Oh man, you mean? I mean?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I says real people are our characters. Yeah, no people, oh,
real people.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
While while making the show, I wish I could have
been more present, you know what I mean. I hate
to jump in front of you, Scott, but I got
to get to this right away. Yeah, I was so
not there. Let's say, when we were making that, I
was very much worried about being out and about I
was more interested in what came with what came after

(58:23):
work than what came with work back when we were
making Scrubs, and I wish I could have been more
present at when it came to doing my job back then.
That's the one thing that I look back and say,
you know what, I know, I know I had fun,
and I know I enjoyed myself. I wish I could
have experienced all of that while making it.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, my reaction is similar in a sense that you know,
I think we took it for granted that this would
happen all the time. That is to say that, you know,
we've spoken this on other podcasts before, that these really
special friendships would would be on every job we did.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
And and.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I think, and we've discussed before, you know how we've
all gone on and done these other jobs and some
some are successful, some or not, but still to this day,
the bond that we all had that comes across on
the screen. I think it's the reason people really. One
of the reasons, of course, the writing first and foremost,
but another reason was that the love that you see

(59:21):
between these characters was real.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
It was.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
We're watching people who genuinely cared as much about each
other in real life as they did as the characters
did on screen. So I think that I think I
took that for granted. I was a young actor. This
is my first big job, and I thought, oh, this
is what it's always like to be on a set.
Everyone loves each other, everyone wants to hang out on
weekends even after we've worked all these days, and oh

(59:47):
my god, the scripts are always hilarious, and it took
so many years to be like, oh no, this is
a diamond in the rough. Not only the writing staff
that Bill assembled was just the dream team. I mean,
they've all gone off to be here, usually successful on
their own right, but but also just the bond that
that the seven main characters of us had was something

(01:00:09):
I haven't really ever seen again, whether I'm an actor
or a director. It's just it was just so rare.
So that's what I think too. It's a similar answer
to Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Now Scott's been on three, in my opinion, three very
successful shows. I'm interested to hear how.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
He might not. He might not have an answer related
to ours, though not to ours.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
But yeah, but I'm interested in hearing if it was
like that for each one of those successes, you know
what I mean, like Felicity, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I think, just directly answering your question, I think I
for me, looking back, if I had to do it again,
I would I would try to relax. I think I
was holding on really tight. It was very important to me.
I didn't I didn't go to college, I didn't want
to do anything else. This was my only shot. Really,
like if I wasn't going to be a working actor,

(01:00:59):
be digging holes. You know, I don't know what else
I'd do, So I was. I was really uptight and
nervous about making sure I got it right and and
really focused on work. And I think I h if
I had to do it again, I'd take a breather
and be more like Donald, but not not that far.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Not that far, but you know what I mean, Like
we were.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I was young and wanted to be successful and was
working towards a goal. But you know, at a certain
point you got to sort of stop and smell the
flowers too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Did you guys all get along on Scandal?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
We did?

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I was hoping that I was hoping to get some
clickbait going, here's gotting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
No, man, I've been I was looking for ever since
I'd done Scrubs. I was looking for a show that
had a similar vibe, a similar friendship, not just in
front of the camera but behind it. And I found
it on Scandal, and we still keep in touch. I
get texts where I have a group chain, group text chain,
I get something multiple things daily. Uh, we vacation together?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Could I join that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Texts Scott, if you have something to offer i'd love
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You know I have a long history with Tony Goldman
and I know you do, yes, And I'm I love
that man a lot. And he directed a movie I
was in called The Last Kiss, and we've stayed friendly
over the years, and I just think he's a very
very special human being. I wish he was the real Press.
I wish he was the real President.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I think we all wish someone else was the real
president right now. Sorry, Jenny, that's not what you're right,
that's what you're getting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
You don't have to bring an Australian into our political situation. Jenny,
Do you have another question for any of us?

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Yes, I do, because I want to look at for
my fellow Australians. I just want to ask, why do
you think doctor Cox takes two Jackmans.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
You know, this is a question that's been asked so
often and we never answered it. I think we're going
to throw it to Bill. But my theory is that Cox,
who was such an alpha competitive guy, was jealous because
at the time Hugh Jackman when we were making the show.
It was right at the time with Hugh Jackman exploding
and becoming a megastar who was not just your average megastar.

(01:03:10):
He was doing everything. He could see it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Everything he could see it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
He could dance, he could host award shows, he could
be an action star, he could be a dramatic star.
He was you know, it was he was everywhere and
he was doing everything, and everyone liked him. It wasn't
like you know, a lot of stars become polarizing. He
wasn't everybody. Everybody loved him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
This dude could this dude could host the Tony's and
then stamp somebody up as Wolverine Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
It was like it was like just.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
One eight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So I think, Jenny, that's my guess is that Cox
was the character of Cox was jealous of this handsome,
you know, muscular man who could do anything and everything
and people just loved him and adored him, and so
he was jealous of him. But let's ask Bill. That's
a good ask Bill, Bill. The fans have been asking
for many years, and now a very nice woman from

(01:03:57):
Australia has asked, and we just have to get the answer.
Why does doctor Cox hate Hugh Jackman so much?

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
Look, we love Hugh Jackman. When we were trying to
come up with who doctor Cox hated, for no reason.
I think we thought it was important that we came
up with somebody that everybody loved and that could do everything.
I mean, who has anything against Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
He's Wolverine.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
You know, he's in action movies.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
He's apparently a lovely guy.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
He's handsome, he's like People Magazine's sexiest person. He can sing,
he can dance, you know, five six seven eight, slid
that one in. He starred in the music Man on Broadway,
and that Peter Allen thing. He's just too damn talented.
My buddy Scott Foley, is there, Scott torture them, Jenny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I hope that worked for you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yes, five six seven eight? No, no, no, no, you
know what, most people only Bill usually gets the song
when he says it. But because Scott so darn charming,
Dan hit the button.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Again, they couldn't control them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Let me control, Let me control my own tiny little universe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Please, Jenny, I'm going to give you one more question.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Third question, Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
My other question was what was your proudest moment from
being on the show. You're proud of performance?

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Oh wow, I really enjoyed doing the musical theater. Uh,
the the musical episode I had a lot of fun
doing that. Growing up, I did a lot of musical theater,
but not at that scope or that level. And a
lot of the people that you know, we're in scrubs
the musical I saw later on in La La Land
or whatever, and that made me feel really good. Like,

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you know, I danced with some of the some of
LA's best dancers and stuff like that, and got to
perform with some of LA's best and you know, as
you know, anybody comes here to make it in the industry,
and it felt good to be amongst Hollywood's elite dancers
and being able to dance with them. I really enjoyed that.
I'm very proud that I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah, I think I'm proud of that episode too, And
also I'm really proud of you know, it was a
really underappreciated thing. But we did this sort of Princess
Briane homage episode that was the fantasies and sort of
a medieval thing, and it kind of it was I
believe it was during the Ryer strike season and the

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season ended early and we didn't know if the show
was coming back, and it was. It was sort of
presented as the season finale and possibly a series finale,
because no one knew if we were coming back, and
so it kind of got treated like, oh, what does
that have to do with Scrubs or ending the show?
And but I really am proud of the directing work

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I did on it, and uh, and I think it
looks really pretty and and it was a huge scale
for for some scope was huge.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
It was big, and we spent a lot of money
and I think it looked like it and a lot
of people worked very hard on it. And then it
sort of got underappreciated because people were like, please tell me,
that's not the series finale, and I was like, no
one meant that that was the series finale. But I
thought that was good.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I love that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I remember, thank you, thank you, Jenny. All Right, we
have to to move on, but thank you so much
for coming on the show, Scott, do you want to
say anything Jenny? Thank her for coming on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
I'd like to thank you for coming on the show too, Jenny.
I hope forgive me for getting into this, but I
hope everything's everyone's okay now that you guys have those
terrible fires and we were all sort of thinking about
you over over on the side of the world. So
I'm glad you guys are better.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Yeah, it's been a big, very difficult year, but yeah,
we're all getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Scott's message was nicer than mine, so I would like
to say that I hope everything's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
That's what we called a callback choke. Everybody, all right?
Thank you, Jenny, thanks yanks much. Very sweet, very very sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yo. J D is a rat. Hold up, let's get
into this. JD is a little beach. He's a rat.
He is a rat. D.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I tell you though, how funny is that fantasy with
me on Johnny's lap?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
It's very golly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
But you are a blue hat. He goes, Who's he goes,
who's my big boy? Hi? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I love that. I love that. They they show you
the two the two sides of you know, when something
bad happens, they show you the two sides. They show
you the one that runs right to the principle and
it's like and and cries to the principal. Oh yeah,
and he did this. And then they showed the other
person who runs to the principal and freaking tells the
principal off John C's character. Cox is the dad that

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goes to the school and beats up the bully for
fucking with his kid. You know what I mean, twelve
year old boy fucking with his son. Oh, you're gonna
touch my son like that? How about this? Go tell
your dad, don't tell your dad that doctor Cox smack
the shit out of you. And it goes it goes south.
But it was very interesting to watch the two dynamics,

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like one guy, one guy is a complete rat.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah, and the other funny. I didn't even see that.
I didn't even see that interpretation of it. But that's
smart that that is exactly what happens. It's it's the
two sides of a coin of how you deal with
the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah, anyway, why.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Would why would Turk even promise to side with me?
I mean, he's a really good doctor. We know that
he's not gonna go not not It's almost ridiculous that
he would even say, Yeah, don't worry, ILL back you up.
He's gonna come in and give his honest analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Right. Well, I think he was. I think Turk was trusting, Uh,
the fact that you had done your job and you know,
you were literally calling him in for a favor. Yo,
just just tell this dude that he doesn't have anything
to worry about. And then when Turk looked at it
like bullshit, wait, hold on, hold on, wait right, you

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gotta you got I look at it like, you know,
if there's any if there's a slight chance that Turk
gets the opportunity to operate, he's gonna say, yeah, I'm
gonna operate, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I mean, I think that's a real thing. Obviously taken
from Obviously this is all inspired by what we were
told by real doctors, that the surgeons are more apt
to be like let's cut him up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, let's get it out, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Let's do our let's do our thing. And I love
uh at twelve fifteen when when when the janitor is
giving my patient advice and he's like, I'm gonna go
with surgery, and I go, he's a janitor and he goes,
but he seems confident. Again, the guy did not say

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a sentence, but.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I didn't laugh out loud at very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
How about Sarah all dolled up for Scott Foley at
thirteen forty five?

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Beautiful How lucky was I in my stupid big overcoat?
But your jacket?

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Why was your jacket eleven size is too big?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I don't know. Did you not have a fitting?

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Do you remember it was like that jacket only.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Three The only thing I could chalk it up to
was that was just the what people were wearing back then.
But it seemed really big.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
That was huge, dude, it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Was the Harmani baggy look back then.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I don't know, do you really think it was style
or just fit wrong? Because you're you're you're supposed to
be playing this like heart throb and and there there
you are. I mean, you should be looking like in
a nice outfit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I have to think it's it was style or else someone.
I mean, there's you know, no less than three people,
but maybe thirty people on set who should be like, hey,
he looks really stupid in that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
And it must have been it must have been the style.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
The style. It had to be style, because that jacket
would it came down to your knees almost, and it was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Huge, and it was like a doctor's smock. She's a monster,
just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Well, I thought Sarah looked U beautiful moment.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
And then I think she looked beautiful even after her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I know, even with Huke. And it was so funny.
She's covered with little puke and blood and poop.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Yeah, yep, they did a really good job with her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
And that was it was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
And then you remember filming, you guys, you guys get
into that really funny, awkward poop conversation. They cut, they
cut to Judy. It's so funny because you guys are
awkwardly flirting about poop and you cut the Judy's dead
pan face. Well, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
And then right after that there's a there's a great
moment where the nurse has like, you know, uh, Sarah
and Judy you're talking. You know, I don't think anybody noticed.
It's not a big deal. And then one of the
nurses walk by and says, hey, poopy, which I thought
was just hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Helma. Yes, I'm really I'm really noticing it all these
years later that many of Aloma's lines are moving. She's
always walking away, the always on the move, Hey poopy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
That we slaugh her into someone else's shot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
But that was very funny to you. Your whole conversation
on how you took a poop not here but not
here before, but before earlier I was down there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I think, you know, we we we delve into their
relationship for in other episodes, but I think that's really
the foundation for them. You know, poop is the foundation.
It's a house built on poop.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
It well, you know, the relationship didn't last long, and
we know poop is not a problet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Founder depends on what your head.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
They should not have built their house on a foundation
of poop. What about in fourteen twenty when the jentleman goes, look,
I'm just a joender. I don't know, but I know this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
You need surgery. How did he get in that room?
How he.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Was that the was that the beginning of the speech
where at the end of it he grabs a newspaper
and goes back into the toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Uh no, that's a different that's that was geez.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
That's before he starts going like, that's the that's the
mast moment with my patient. But then yeah, then we
cut around to him going to all of my patients
around the entire hospital, telling them they all need surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
You have that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It's hilarious and Neil's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
That I'm having surgery right now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Oh that was that was great. I'm having surgery and
I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
And I'm loving it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
It's a bizarre infomercial, man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
And then Donald, what do you say, Let's get you
out of your skin, skin, Let's cut you out to
your skin. I'm having that. Girl did a great job.
I'm having surgery right now and loving it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
You know, the writers always have always done a good
job on this show of finding really subtle gender specific
moments that there's something that and I think Bill takes
a lot of it from Christa. You know, there's moments
where he's like, there was a character at one point
in the show. I don't remember what season it was,
but a woman talks about chewing on her thumbnail until

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it bleeds at the side of her thumbtail bleeds, which
is a very specific sort of woman thing. And there
was a moment in here where Judy says, you know,
I'm I'm not sure there's a cat heaven, like I
don't tell Church. I sometimes cried becase I'm not sure
there's a cat heaven. Like I thought that was a genius,
really subtle gender specific moment, really spirit of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
What you're saying, Scott. Then they cut to Sarah, and
the look on her face is like, there's no cat heaven. Yeah,
what do you mean there's no cat heaven. It's a
really really it's a really subtle moment, but they cut
to Sarah's face as though she's just heard, like for
the first time there's no cat heaven, like she's just
had Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Room for her.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I thought it was great, man, I thought it was
really smart, and Judi delivered it beautifully. The amount of
times I'll run into my wife and be like, Hey,
why are you crying, She's like, never mind, and you
know it's because she's not sure if there's a cat
Heaven's something ridiculous like that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
At seventeen twenty one, Sarah bumps into Colonel Doctor and
I just was exciting because you know, Colonel Doctor didn't
always get a lot of foreground time, but he got
a little foreground moment Coleman's law, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I didn't even see that. That went completely over my head.
I missed that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, it's even in the Scrubs wiki, and I love
about We call him Colonel Doctor because that's what we
thought his name was, but because it's eventually revealed that
his name is Coleman's Law. It says in the Scrubs Wiki,
like Sarah bumps into Coleman's Law the Scrubs Wiggy, the

(01:16:19):
Scrubs Wiggie is so is so accurate that they call
Colonel doctor coleman slaws law.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
At twenty thirty five, the patient in bed is Richard Wells. Yes,
was our are very he was our best first AD, first.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
AD and UPM. Also he went on to be r
U p M later on when Scott Harris and uh,
that's right, Franklin got better to we.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Should say for those for those of you who don't know,
a first ad, a first assistant director is the man
or woman who was sort of running the set making
sort of the one calling out saying, okay, here we go,
we gotta move. Really you think of that in theater
like the stage manager, but keeping everyone moving along uh
and uh, and sort of the team leader. So the
director can ideally focus on the creative aspects of things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Well, the first idea is usually the bad guy. Let's
just put it that way. The first idea is the
one that you come to with all the problems. You
don't necessarily go back torect Yes, well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Richard Wells was so great at his job and one
of the best first ads I've ever worked with. And
and I forgot that he did a cameo and here
he is as one of my patients that finally finally
says he'll he'll go the medical route, solely because the
janitor has told him so at the end of the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Also, also, Richard Wells directed a few episodes of Scrubs. Also, uh,
he did a lot on the show. He wasn't just
the ad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah, when he became I was bummed though when he
when he decided to become the UPM and he was
no longer on set because.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Can I ask you a question, Yes, what is a UPM?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
A UPM is a production manager unit production manager, handling
the organization of everything the un up If you need
a crane, the UPM is the one often calling the
rental house and saying, we need a crane on Tuesday.
Who's bringing it? Timmy and John the line producer kind
of underneath the line producer, organizing anything and everything that
the nuts and bolts of a production. Scott, you switched

(01:18:16):
to eating, I see.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Well, I switched to my damn things running out of
batteries and I can't hear a fucking thing now. But yeah,
it's my anniversary. So my wife made me these things,
and I got to eat him before I come out
of my closet, unless she's gonna say, like, why didn't
you eat the cookie I made you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
How many years?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
How many? Thanks so much? Thirteen years? Oh my good,
thirteen years. Wow? Yeah, wow, yeah, sorry, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
And I was excited. You know, I thought I could
just listen to your explanation of line producer versus UPM
and no one would notice.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
But I forgot that. I'm sure everyone tuned out when
I started describing a UPM. All right, listen, we did
it as uh as Howard Stern says, we've said it all.
This has been really fun, Scott, did you have a
good time?

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
I loved being here. I love seeing your faces.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
You know, we haven't. We haven't had the chance to
see too many people recently, so it meant a lot
to me, and it uh, it has meant a lot
to me to be a bit a part of this,
have been a part of this show. I look back
fondly on it and consider both of you good friends
of mine, so I appreciate you having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Well, we miss you, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I gotta tell you, Yeah, I miss you, man, I
I uh, I gotta tell you. You know, we talk
about it all the time. I ran in the chip
at vote voting, Uh, Jeff bur Yeah and uh and
I was like, you know, we gotta we gotta get
together again. And this was I thought. This was back
when we thought this pandemic would last about a month
and a half. And it's uh. You know, I'd love

(01:19:41):
to get out and play golf with you again once
this is all said and done.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah, we'll find the time watch. I'd love to watch
you defeat Bill and tennis if possible.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Well, if we'll find out when he's injured, and then
we'll go out and play.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Because I can't because I can't beat Bill in any sports.
I often try and find people that can beat him
so I can just watch.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Game. Hey, you know, I wanted to talk about and
I don't know if you remember this before we go.
You know, Donald and I have had the chance to
work together, not just on a bunch of things, but
you and I aside from scrubs, and this is something
I regret very much after doing I don't know what, however,
meant two or three episodes in the first season. You
wrote a short film about robots.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Maybe probably I love robots.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
And you sent me the script and I was busy
doing something else so I couldn't do it. But I've
always regretted not being able to work with you as
a director on something you wrote, and that was that.
There's still something I look back on. I totally remember it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
It was a I can't believe remember that. I vaguely
remember it too. I was trying to start directing things
because I had gone to film school and I was
and I was doing scrubs and it was so amazing.
But of course in my mind as a as a
young go getter, was thinking I got to start making stuff.
And I wrote that a wacky short, and I asked
you to be in it. But thank you for almost
saying yes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
I absolute would have said yes if I wasn't able to.
But I look, I love both you guys, and we'll
hopefully work with you until we die on different things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I mean a really cool short film recently Scott that
you should check out. It's called In the Time It
Takes to get there, and I guess I've taken this
opportunity to give a shout out to that short. So
if you're listening to this, check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
It's got in the time it takes to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yeah, it's got Alicia Silverstone, Donald's old co star, and
it's got Florence Pugh, the very exciting young actress Oscar nominee,
and it's really good and it's on YouTube and you
can go watch it. It was Adobe had this contest
where people college kids could design a movie poster, and

(01:21:43):
the winning movie poster design using photoshop. The prize was
that I would write and direct a short film inspired
by the movie poster.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Oh yes, you know, I saw an article about that.
Anytime I see you guys names in any sort of press,
I check it out. And I saw an article about this,
so I will definitely check it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Check it out. I recently wont a webbye for it,
which is a which is a cool web award. But
check it out. Nobody cares, Zach, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Anybody could see Donald's face when he says that right now?
I wish if he was his hands on his head.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I wish everyone could see my face right now. Because
I've successfully to feel sad.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
You're not, but you look like you're sitting underneath.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
By the way, I want you to know that I
knew everybody listening would be like, oh, I can't wait
for him to say nobody cares Sean. I'm the only
one in this You've said it multiple times, Donald Has,
I'm the only one who never said those nobody cares
Zach Well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
The problem is you said them to begin with, and
not a day goes by where someone either personally or
on social media doesn't comment or say nobody. I mean
I could say happy birthday to my lovely wife of
thirteen years or happy anniversary of thirteen years, and I'll
get six nobody cares Sean's well, and it makes me

(01:23:01):
equally happy and fucking irate.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
All Right, I get it, man. Well, listen, we we
got Bill was saying five six seven eight on this podcast,
and I post something on on Instagram and every other
comment is five to six seven eight.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Well, I mean you were You texted me are you
ready to come on? And I think I just wrote
back five six seven eight, and your response was like, yeah, okay,
we get it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Listen, guys, you've gone an hour and a half. Uh,
this has been amazing. We love the fans. Thank you
for listening. We hope we're making you laugh a little
in these crazy times. That's our hope. You can email
questions to Scrubs iHeart at gmail dot com. Please follow
Donald on Instagram. He's very envious of the amount of
followers I have.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Dude, you have like one million, one point three million
on Instagram. Yeah you guys, I have six hundred thousand
and two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Well, listen to Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I follow you on Instagram. By the way, thanks man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
It's you can follow Scott Foley too, and look at
how handsome he is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
And that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
We love you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Uh, let's see you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Whose stories that show we made about.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
A bunch of times and nurses in the janitor who love?

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
I said, here's the stories next.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
All should know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
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