January 27, 2025 • 41 mins
In this episode of the Granger Smith Podcast, Granger is joined by his wife, Amber, for a candid and thought-provoking discussion. They delve into controversial and often divisive topics, including the impact of COVID-19 vaccinations, personal health concerns, and the cultural shift in how information is shared and censored. Drawing from their own experiences, as well as stories from friends, family, and listeners, they reflect on the challenges of navigating medical decisions during uncertain times.
Granger and Amber tackle questions of faith, responsibility, and the sovereignty of God, offering hope and encouragement amid the noise of conflicting narratives. This episode also invites audience participation, encouraging listeners to share their own experiences and perspectives in the comments or via email.
Whether you're here for the honest discussion, the thought-provoking questions, or the comforting reminder of God’s sovereignty, this episode aims to spark meaningful conversations while grounding listeners in hope. Don't miss Granger's call to join the dialogue.
Key Topics:
- Personal stories of vaccination and health
- Navigating conspiracy theories and media censorship
- Balancing faith, responsibility, and uncertainty
- Engaging the audience with questions and comments for future episodes
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, welcome back to the Grangersmith podcast. I'm Granger, my
guest is Amber today as my wife, and I'm so
glad you're with me. If you are listening on Spotify, Apple,
any of the other podcast apps, thank you and welcome.
And I encourage you to also check out the YouTube
version of this and you'll see why in a minute.
(00:32):
But my encouragement is that you comment on the YouTube
version because we're going about to get into something that's
gonna spark some questions here, not questions, some.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Comments, comments, controversy, I don't.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Know, controversy. Yeah, We're we're gonna spark some things. But
I'm actually genuinely interested in what the listeners of this
podcast have to say about this subject. And they might
already know what. I don't know what the title of
this podcast is yet, but they they do, and that
might be why they're wanting to know what we have
to say about it. But I will say this, it's
(01:09):
interesting you go back five years almost five years, like
four point eight years ago, and we wouldn't have talked
about this on a channel like this for fear that
it would be shut down or shadow.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Band they were taking down.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the word I remember in the
in the height of COVID, the word that we used
to not be able to say. I don't even know
if we could still say that, honestly, I know, I
don't know if there's.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like still something there some striker shadow band, they might.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Be still kind of striking that word. Surely not. But
I remember what text like Rob Turkla Lunkers TV and
and Matt character demo demo Matt I would just say like, Hey,
what's the status on on the the Internet's usage of
these words? Can we use them? And it like progressively
(02:04):
got worse and worse where it's like, hey, you can't
see anything. Are YouTube's going to hide you in the podcast?
Are going to shut you down?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I still feel like it's kind of like that
on social media on certain platforms. There's some people that
I follow where if they share certain things on this topic,
they do make a post that says I've been shadow
band or go follow this other account. They have to
make separate accounts because other ones get shut down. So
I feel like it's still kind of a thing. Is
heavily so.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But I think partly what I'm saying right now is
I don't really care. Yeah, that we're going to talk
about it and I just don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, it's what you and I have been talking about
in the house the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, so let me finish that first. That first thought.
If you're listening, awesome, thank you, and also go to
YouTube so that you could watch and comment, or just
go to YouTube after you listen so you can comment
because I'm going to read these comments and see what
you think. You can also email me podcast at grangersmith
(02:59):
dot com. We check those and aunt Mantle will get
your email podcast at grangersment dot com if you want
to comment or ask a question and we can answer
that or use that as a topic. And I have
some questions we can get to if we probably will,
We'll probably get to these questions. The topic at hand
(03:21):
is something that I see a lot in the questions,
and I see you and I have talked a lot
about it. I was with Nicole, my publicist. I was
speaking on a podcast in Nashville like three days ago,
and Nicole meets me there. She lives in Nashville, and
we were at this church and I was like, what's
(03:42):
the latest, Nicole, Because she keeps up with all this
stuff and correct me if I'm wrong. Everyone listening. It's
the middle aged women are the dirt diggers when it
comes to this kind of stuff. All of a sudden,
I think, as far as I know, first time in history,
I can't think of another era or another generation when
(04:02):
the women were the dirt diggers of conspiracy in this country.
And it's not a bad thing. It's a good thing
because the dirt diggers are the usually mothers that are.
It's coming from a mode of protection. It's coming from
a place of I'm gonna protect uh oh, not my
babies they are. They ain't gonna be dealing putting. I'm
(04:24):
in a homeschool. I'm gonna they're gonna only eat you know,
grass fed beef that mama grows in the in the
at the ranch. You know, Like it's comes from a
place of protection. But because of that, now there's like
all these theories. And it started with she used to
live in La a long time ago as a publicist,
and I was like, she said, what do you want
(04:46):
to know? And I was like, how about the fires
in La? She goes, you know, She's all, oh, let
me tell you, Granger, you have no idea she started
talking about smart meters, utility meters, you know, like the
get away from the smart one. She's like, I'm calling
she lives in Nashville. She's like, I told Chip, my husband,
(05:07):
I told him, you call the electric company and you
tell them I want analog meter on our house. I
don't want that smart meter anymore. I don't want them
looking in and seeing seeing what we're using our utilities
or whatever else. You know, there's a lot of other theories.
She's talking about them exploding in LA and stuff like that,
and like being detonated. And I was like, what what
(05:29):
social media accounts do you follow? And she's like, a
lot of them, I'll show you.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well to think about that is if you start following
those that gets in your algorithm and that's all you see,
then you just keep going down the conspiracy rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, she gardens. She's been gardening for like two
years straight, just garden, like doing well. But then she
was she had she admitted in Nashville. She's like, I'm
still really into gardening, but I'm starting to lose a
little bit of hope because they're raining down those chemicals
on my garden. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, there's so many conspiracy theories and this, yes, many
people will comment lots of conspiracies.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And she's a Christian, so she's you know, she's blaming
everything on the enemy. It's like, this is all an
attack from the thief that comes to steel keel and destroy. Yeah,
you know her uh, her father in law's long time
Baptist pastors. So she's but but she's taken it. She's
taken on that role much more than Chip. I was like,
what does Chip think about all this? And she didn't
(06:28):
really answer, But I think because I know Chip, I
love him to death, and he's probably like, all right, babe,
you do your thing. You know, I'll call the electric
company and tell him I want to Analog met her
on the house, so let's get into what we want
to say, and so that that kind of led me
to what we What happened during that conversation about fires
(06:49):
and kim trails and everything else, Nichols talking about it
kind of led me. And by the way, ant Man,
who produces the show, he's he's really informed on this
stuff too. That got that got our conversation to a lament,
And that lament between Nicole and I was me and
(07:11):
her are the only two in each of our families
that were vaccinated. Yeah, and both of us got vaccinated
because of our job, because you know, at the time,
and we talked about it and we lamented that decision
that we made. And you know, I was going to Canada.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I remember at the time, I was pregnant. You were pregnant,
so you were trying to you were trying to protect
me and the baby and the family because you were
traveling so much. So that's why you decided to go
ahead and get the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And we just legitimately didn't know. Yeah, And anyone listening
right now that thinks they knew, they didn't. I'm sorry.
You just didn't because no one knew. We thought we knew.
We didn't want to, no one wanted to get vaccinated.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So in my crew, yeah, I think that's all over
the world. So many people were forced to and if you,
if you didn't do it, you lost your job.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah. And I didn't do that with my band and crew.
That that's not something I said. I didn't say you're
going to lose your job over this. I did tell
everybody if you if we're going to a venue, and
a lot of them were checking vaccines during that time.
If we're going to a venue and they're checking vaccines,
(08:21):
you either need to hide, or you need to disappear,
or you need to find someone that can come replace
you for that day. Please, I said, Look, guys, I said,
I love you. I would never tell you to get vaccinated.
That's just not my personality. I would never force that
on you. But please don't make that your decision. Don't
please don't make that a problem for me that then
(08:43):
I have to replace a bus driver or a guitar
player or a drummer, Like, will you please, let's figure
this out. Either we all vote against it and none
of us tour, which is an impossible decision when bills
need to be paid. Anyway, that's so, I'm sorry, I'm
just as.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They were making the artists get vaccinated, were they checking
the people coming in the door to the shows?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
What we found during that time was that most of
the time they were telling us that. They were telling
Chris that as he advanced the show, like make sure everyone.
You know, the city's making sure every even the bands
are all vaccinated. Anyone backstage, we need to check your
vaccine card otherwise you can't come and what we learned
(09:26):
was that was like the police chief and all them
pushing that on the theaters and the venues. But when
we got there, they would be like, we don't care,
you can come on in. We're like what you told
us to They're like, yeah, as long as the police
chief's not here or as long as they're not checking
in on us, just don't say anything. So that's what
it always turned out to be. So like bull who
(09:46):
never got vaccinated, butch never got vaccinated, and they were
just like, okay, they took my deal. They were like,
we're gonna drive, We're going to go, and we'll just
play the odds, like if it comes down to it,
we'll make a fake card or we'll disappear around the
end of the dumpster, but we're going to take our
(10:07):
chances to just go. And they that gamble paid off.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Was there ever a time that y'all weren't allowed to play?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
No, there was. I think Dell Diamond and Round Rock Sexes.
You remember that, Yeah, I think they kept like the
non vaccinated crew like back I don't know, I can't
really remember. It's such a vague fog in my mind.
(10:37):
But then we went across to Canada. That was like
the big one, you know, those Canadians, those guards at
the board. We all pulled out our vaccine cards and
they were like, I don't want to see that. Yeah,
And I thought about it, and I was like, of
course you don't want to see that. Why would you
want to see this little cardboard piece of paper signed
(10:57):
by Walgreens? What does that mean for a border patrol
agent in Canada looking at some employee in Walgreens in Georgetown,
Texas that just scribbled something on.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A card that could be easily manipulated.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't care. They were like, go but you Moore,
were like, yes, here we go, you know, in fact,
in fact, no now in my memory, in fact, I
think they took us like all the way to the
border and then we we ended up some somehow, We
(11:33):
ended up going over and renting gear or something without them,
and they stayed for a couple of days in a
border town like Buffalo, New York, Detroit or something. Frustrating.
So Nicole and I back to the story, we lamented
that she and I got vaccinated and I got a
booster and she got a booster to keep our jobs
(11:56):
just because we didn't know, but then we then we
were grateful and thankful to God that chip didn't and
you didn't, and the kids didn't, None of our kids did.
She has two kids and we have three. Maverick, you know,
when he was born, the second he breathed oxygen, they
gave him a COVID test.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, because I had COVID.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, because you actually had COVID. Crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, And there was so much conspiracy all around throughout
those years of what was in the vaccine and was
it hurting people? But then as time went on, you
started hearing stories of effects possibly from the vaccine. So
that's how you and I got on the subject of
it the last couple of days. Yeah, we're problems that
people were having cardiovascular problems, strokes, sudden death, you know,
(12:44):
people were did you remember seeing all the like the
comedians and people would be on stage and they would
just fall over.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, and we're gone football players.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean it was just a lot of people
were just were just passing away. And there's that documentary
called Died Suddenly, and I think it was in twenty
twenty two and it was in Balmers and funeral and
funeral homes that were looking at these deceased people and
finding these long, white like look like ribbon looking things
(13:14):
inside their veins of people that were vaccinated that were
causing like these clots. Now, that is since people have
since discounted that documentary as you know, like people will
say that it's not fact checked and all that, So
I can't say what's true. All I can say is
that these people said that that's what they saw as
they were embalming these people and people in my life
have started to have issues, and so it just got be.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Thinking before you go there, though, have they sense debunked?
Art note? Have they sense come out and said, is
anyone of authority said yes, indeed the vaccines have caused problems.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, but I'll get to our story or to what
you and I were talking about. But what website is this?
My mom said this to me, But it says together
with their growing number of COVID nineteen vaccine receivers, a
range of vaccine related complications, including cardiovascular ones, have been
reported worldwide. And there's also been a significant increase in
(14:09):
blood pressure, which is what my mom's been dealing with lately.
Like she's had good blood pressure all of her life.
And all of a sudden, she's at like two hundred
and she had the vaccine in twenty twenty one. But
it just made me think, and I asked her, I said,
you got vaccinated. She worked in the medical field, so
she had to. She had three three shots, the boosters
and everything. And then my stepdad had an episode when
(14:31):
we were in Idaho recently, and it just got me
thinking he was vaccinated too, because like, these things are
starting to happen, and of course they're getting older and
it could just be their age, but there's just stories
of people having problems with the vaccine. So I would
be interested to know, you know, if people in the
comments have had issues of being vaccinated and stroke symptoms
(14:51):
or so.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I'm going to read recorded that. I'm going to read
something here coming up that Nicole sent me and then
have people kind of get involved on YouTube here if
you tube lets them, but maybe they won't. I don't know.
I think it's more important to talk about it than
worry about if youtubes. I'm not gonna let it. I
think it's it's a it's interesting. And you remember Moonrise,
Oh we all got Drick.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They were we all had to go get tested what
like every time we came to set ridiculous around.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Debbie was her name, sweet sweet lady. Yeah, she was okay,
she was. She was very sweetly and I gave her
big problems because you know, I'm genuine. I guess I'm
a nice guy. I try to be a nice guy,
and especially to a sweet woman that's about my mother's age.
(15:40):
I would always be sweet, but I was pretty firm
with her. I was like, Debbie, you can't keep doing
this because the problem was Dusty had COVID or or
he tested positive. Yeah, and we're shooting the dance hall
scene and they're just like relentless about these stupid COVID checks,
(16:01):
you know, every day. And she comes on the bus,
wildf IER's there and we're all up there. Montana was there.
She comes up there and goes, can I see Dustin
Saxton And he's like h And she's like, you tested
positive and we're like okay, so we're gonna go play, right.
(16:25):
She was like, I have to ask him to leave.
What are you talking about? We're about the film? A movie?
Yeah you remember that?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, didn't your co star have it? Or they sent
home like the first week.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Or something, or no, or it was like a thread
of it or the threat.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Of it, or something something happened and somebody was so
worried about it. Crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So if you watch the movie, Blake Stewart is playing drums.
This my sound guy, Blake instead of love him the desk.
So glad he was able to do it. But they
sent Dusty home and every day she would come back
in and as the movie continued to we continue to
shoot it. I got to this point where I just
wanted to finish it, like, let me just finish, and
the weather was delaying us. We're having all these problems
(17:07):
with just finishing the movie. I had tour dates coming.
I needed to finish the movie. So she'd come on
the bus in the morning. Like with that COVID test,
I go nope, knowing that if I tested positive, they
would delay the whole movie a week. And I was
like nope.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
She's like, Granger, I have Toby.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I love you, but you're not touching my nose. You're
not touching me with that thing. She was like, honey,
I have to that's my job. And I was like,
you're not touching my nose, Debbie, And it would like
get a little heated like that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And I remember those COVID tests and I remember I
had to take one one time, and I swear there
was something on the end of that Q tip, something chemical,
and I it was not. And then I got scared,
like what did I just put in my nose? Like
what were they? But I went down the conspiracy hole
theory thinking I just injected myself with something up in
my nose. It was just you never knew. And then
(18:04):
there was like false testing. It was just it was
a big mess. Yeah. But anyway, all that to say,
there's just been some issues with people in my family
and it just made me think all of those people
have been vaccinated.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Fact, let's take a break and then tell me what
your mom's saying.
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Speaker 1 (20:33):
So tell me about your mom. This is recently, and
this is significant because of who your mom is. Why
do you say that because she worked decades in healthcare
in a hospital and your mother, I say that because
she's she doesn't do anything without research or without thinking.
(20:54):
She's very detail oriented, she's very protective, she would she's
not She's not loose with the things that she does no,
she's not. She's especially medical things, right.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
She's also by the book, like she will do what
she's supposed to do in rules.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, that's what I mean. So there's a little combination
of like she's very protective and she uses by the
book to do that. I wish we could have known
her when she was like eight years old. I bet
she was like that girl and she was like, everyone,
sit down and put your hands in your lap.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's so true.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So she worked in a hospital for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Like, yes, she wasn't a nurse or anything. She just
worked in another part.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
In accounting and so, but she was around medical staff,
doctor's patients, sometimes patients. She heard the whatever latest, the
latest news was anything in the world. Your mom heard
it because she was there. She lived it for decades.
And so when when COVID hit and she was like,
(21:54):
we should get vaccinated, and and you were like, well,
I mean do we know that? And your mom was like, look,
I've been talking to these doctors. They're my friends, I
love them, my colleagues. They're very smart, and they're saying, yeah,
all the data says we should get vaccinated to be safe.
And so you and Granger and the kids all need
(22:16):
to get vaccinated. Do you remember that, right?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I mean i'd trying to remember that long ago.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And for you, because she was worried because you didn't
You're like, no, I'm not going to do it. There
are a lot of reasons, partly because I was like,
don't do it. And another reason was you were pregnant
or trying to get pregnant or something.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, right, and that we were definitely in the midst
of planning or pregnancy for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And we certainly were not going to get.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Our kids well, because she got vaccinated in twenty twenty one,
and that's when Maverick was born, so I was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Fast forward now she's retired.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, she Actually I think she got vaccinated for the grandkids.
If I think about it correctly. She wanted to protect
her family.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I guarantee you ninety nine percent of people that got
vaccinated that are listening right now or like, I did
it not as a selfish thing. I did it to
protect my grandmother or my elderly parents, or the babies, or.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The or immuno compromise people with cancer.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, or my spouse. You know. Yeah, that's why people
did it. So This is not a blame at all.
We were all duped on this thing. Yeah, go ahead.
So now fast forward, she's retired and she's having complications.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, she's just all of a sudden, she has extremely
high blood pressure that kind of came out of nowhere,
and it may be genetically predisposed. My grandmother did have it,
but for it to flip so suddenly was just it
just made me think, well, you were vaccinated. And then
my stepdad had an episode almost like I hope you
(23:42):
wouldn't be upset that I was saying this, but just
an episode, like a medical episode, and I thought, well,
he was vaccinated too, And so it just got me thinking,
all these people in our lives that have suddenly had
something complicating, were they vaccinated? And so that's what Grangeer
and I've just been talking about in the house. I
don't know, it's just I would be curious to see
(24:03):
if other people have had those problems as well. And
then it got him saying, well, I was vaccinated, and
I said, I know, I've been praying for you just
in case, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Know, So what is your mom saying? That's what I
want to know. The person that was like, I don't
want I want everyone to get vaccinated. I've listened to
the doggs. Now what does she sing?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's just making her think like, oh, maybe that could
be a possibility. So she's just going to her PCP
and she's going to see a cardiologist and just kind
of get all checked out because it's done. Now, Like
she's been vaccinated. So where do you go from here?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
How many boosters she's had?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think she had three shots.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So that's is that two boosters?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I don't know, maybe one and then two boosters made
I don't know, I don't remember. Yeah, you had two.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I got the main shot and then I got a booster.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, there's and then there's another lady. Oh god, he's gone.
That's not funny. That's not funny. No, it's not there's
another lady in her hospital who is now in the
ICU with complications, and I was wondering if she had
been vaccined. You know, I don't know, but they are
in their sixties. It just seems it just seems strange
that everybody at the same time is having something going on,
(25:13):
and they were all seemed to vaccinated around the same time.
Maybe think so one of.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
My theories on that, like if it was a conspiracy
to actually hurt us or to manipulate us, they didn't
do a very good job because there's not that many
people that are.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Sick, right, I mean I read something that said something
like over sixty three percent of the population did get vaccinated.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So a very small percentage out of that are actually sick. Well,
if you're listening and you know somebody or you have
been sick, or you know somebody that's been sick and
have some kind of complication that you think might be
from that vaccine comment below, we'll get a maybe we'll
see maybe there's more people than we think.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And Mike Granger said, this is not a condemnation type thing.
This is just something we've been talking about in the
house and just something that kind of sparked our our thinking.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So so Nicole sent me this and I was like, hey,
send me something. I'm going to get on the podcast
and talk about this. And she said, she said, check
your Instagram DM.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I bet she said it in that exact voice.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So it's this. What was the text. It was this
account that I guess they're doing the same thing I'm doing.
They're saying, hey, I've all my followers. Do you guys
have any complications? I'm curious. Here's what it says. I
became suspicious of the job back in January twenty one
when my nephew's girlfriend had a few colleagues in Salt
(26:35):
Lake City who were healthy in her mid twenties, and
she decided to take one of the first off her jobs.
She died about twenty minutes after she got the shot.
This stunned all who worked with her in the medical
clinic where she was employed. Her tragedy was only briefly
mentioned on a local news station. I think that clinic
(26:57):
declined or decided as a team that they would decline
getting the shot. The team of medical professionals at the
clinic where my nephew's girlfriend worked also decided to decline
getting the JAB. And so then she's offering who else
(27:17):
has seen something like this? And then here's some like
it's just like at Instagram where it's all the stories.
It's thousands of stories. My friend's dad had eight boosters,
but shortly after the eight he started having blood clots
everywhere and almost died. Thankfully, he is now okay. My
next door neighbor died suddenly the spring cardiac arrest in
his garage. I was working in the garden when all
(27:39):
this commotion happened. My mom received the first morderna. Two
months later, she was diagnosed with breast cancer and has
since had amsectomy. Lots of my insurance clients are coming
down with things more than any point in twenty years
in my business. One family member got cancer and died
(27:59):
within a year, one friend heart attack in her thirties
within one year. The high school one high school student
dead within a year. These are all separate people.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, that's that's a lot of what was coming out
at first was all these cardiac arrests in like thirty
year olds.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And another thing is important that these people are dming
so it's private, right, So, and they're all anonymous because
they're not. They don't want to they're not sure what
to say. This person said, I didn't want to comment publicly,
but I have a sister in law who got the
vaccine and boosters just to have a double missectomy and
will now have to go through chemo. Her daughter, who
(28:38):
was perfectly normal before the VACS plus boost, was diagnosed
with multiple autoimmune conditions starting started having neurological symptoms and
was just diagnosed with turets. Hard to say if they
have had some of these conditions without the shots, but
it's definitely suspect. And on and on and on and
(29:00):
on and on these stories of people look at this,
it's just I mean, I consider and look how many
these stories. There's a hundred of them. My cousin's husband
dropped dead on Thanksgiving blood clot and his lungs two
weeks after getting the shot. He was a strong, healthy,
(29:20):
forty five year old.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah. I mean, there's so many stories, hundreds of thousands
of stories about people with the COVID vaccine. But then
there's also hundreds of thousands of stories of just the
children's vaccine.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
My seventy five year old grandma, My seventy six year
old grandma started her period again. That's what it says. Wow,
I feel like this podcast is going to get muted. Probably,
it's gonna get shadow.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's gonna have like a big thing. This is false
fact checks something something, which is what we're saying. We
don't know. We're just having a conversation about it. It's
not like we're saying one is right or wrong at
least I'm not. I don't know. I was just thinking
about people in my life who have been vaccinated who
are now seeming to have complications. I don't know if
(30:05):
they're related or not.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
My friend's husband took the shot, had a heart attack.
He was found to be full of blood clots. The
cardiologist acknowledged it was from the shot, but the primary
care denied it. The cardiologists acknowledged it was from the shot.
We're seeing a lot of this blood clot thing. Yeah,
Like it's either heart attacks or lungs or clots or
all these things. It's so so bizarre. Honestly, this person
(30:35):
says it's genocide. If the masses ever wake up, they'll
understand why many of us are screaming from the mountaintops.
I haven't thought too much about it. Thanks Nicole for
you know, bringing this back. My thirty year old niece
got the JAB when she was pregnant four years ago,
has had all the boosters now all have leukemia.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
All all like her and her yeah unborn yeah or baby.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah. The cases of cancer among people I know is
outrageously high. Statistics show that cancer is four hundred, four
hundred times more since COVID vaccines have come out, but
people that believe the COVID vaccines are safe and effective
don't even realize the cancer is four hundred times more
since starting this vaccine.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
The sad thing is is that there's I mean there's
everything from environmental to the food that we're eating. I mean,
there's so many things that can cause all of these
issues in our bodies, and it is it's such a
struggle to wrestle with that. We know that as you
talk about on this podcast about our Lord being sovereign
and all of our days are numbered, you know. So
(31:47):
it stops me from wanting to go down these rabbit
holes of conspiracy because you just you just go on
a turning wheel.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Absolutely, and it's a conversation. We wouldn't I wouldn't dare
do a podcast with my name on it that we didn't.
We left people without hope, We left people worrying at
the end, think well I got it, or my husband
got it, or my kids got it, and Granger's gotten everything.
You got me scared now, So I think we know,
(32:18):
I think there's two things, you know, we could take
away because I am one of the people that's you know,
got it, and I promise you though I don't worry
one bit about my life, I don't either, but I
especially about death. I am not scared of death, you
know that.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And I am not worried for my mom or my
stepdad or anybody who got it. It's just something that
popped into my mind that are is that correlated or not?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah? So two things, One just top the top of
my head. One we we should be responsible. It would
be a sin for me to be irresponsible with my body.
So like, for instance, I wouldn't say I ain't scared
to death. I'll be out there and bungee jump off
the Grand Canyon, you know, or skydive off, you know,
(33:07):
the Empire State Building, because you know why, Jesus is
my savior and I'm not scared. That would be a
sin because that would be taking this body that I have,
this this tent for his glory to tell people the
message of redemption that we have from the blood of Christ.
And it would be a sin to treat that carelessly
(33:30):
in a way that was self serving and seeking adrenaline.
Or and I think you could also add that would
be irresponsible to take vaccines if you had any idea
that they could be some kind of malpractice. So we
know that, let's be responsible. And if we know moving
(33:53):
forward that we should be more cautious about things like this,
let's be more cautious. Not because we're trying to extend
our life that outside of God's sovereignty and live more
days on earth than we were ever supposed to have anyway,
but because we should be responsible with the God given
gift of our bodies that are temples for the Holy
(34:17):
Spirit to carry out his message. That's a waitist, that's
a way to say it. Second, that's the first thing.
And the secondly, God knows every day is numbered for us.
He knows every hair on our head. He knows before
we were even formed, all the days that were formed
for us. Our days are numbered by Him before we
(34:41):
were even created. There is no there is no tricking that,
there's no manipulating that. So those two things. The Bible
does this all the time. Christianity, a walk with Jesus
carries two truths simultaneously intention with each other. And so
(35:05):
in this case, the tension is let's be responsible, let's
care for our bodies in responsible way, not in an
idolistic way like not idolized with uh, you know, facial
facial reconstruction and you know that kind of thing. Let's
let's be respectful and let's stay healthy, and let's be
aware of things like vaccines and prayerful and if you
(35:29):
know vaccines. I heard Rogan say this before twenty twenty.
He said, I would have said vacuum vaccines are maybe
the greatest invention in human history.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, afterwards, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It got rid of so many different diseases.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So let's be responsible and not not discount the actual
medical uh triumph that is a vaccine when it's done
the right way, like polio, smallpox. But let's be responsible,
let's do our research. And then the other the other side,
the other fist of tension is God is sovereign and
(36:06):
he's he's already written, he's already written your days. So
trust him because his life is a vapor. It's finite,
and we'll be gone, yeah, before you know it. It's
the Bible oftentimes uses the flower of the grass, and
in Texas we see that a lot. We see grass
in the spring it comes up and there's there's an
(36:27):
area on our on our in our front yard that
I know for a fact, because I've I dug in
it the other day. It has like six inches of
soil and everything else of solid rock. So because of that,
the the grass just doesn't do very well, except for
in the wet spring the grass will come up and
these little flowers of the grass come up and look beautiful.
(36:49):
And it's right in our driveway because you'll drive by
it and you'll look at it and go, wow, everything
looks so pretty, all these pretty flowers. And as soon
as it heats up enough in that rock underneath he up,
it fades and burns up. By Jesus says, like in
an oven, like the analogy of an oven, it literally
burns up and it's gone. And so that's an analogy
(37:12):
of our life. The Bible uses that. Isaiah uses that
in Isaiah forty, the Sermon on the Mount. James uses
that in James one. The all these analogies, so that's
Matthew six, James one, Isaiah forty. All say, your life
is like grasp bro your life is like grass withers
and fades. So what will you do with it today?
(37:35):
And that's not a call for self help, that's not
a call to live your best life. Now, that's a
call to know what your purpose is now and in
the meantime, you're responsible with the vessel that you've been given.
That's all this conversation is. So, don't ever hear me
on this podcast, man, you call me out on YouTube,
(37:59):
call me out if I ever start some kind of
conspiracy that ends up being doom and gloom. And I
end the podcast and I say so everyone, good luck.
The Deep States out to get us, you know, don't ever.
They're they're blowing up our homes with with digital monitors,
you know, they're they're they're putting all the chemicals in
(38:19):
the air from the Kim trails and airplanes. They're killing us.
All the Chinese are listening to. It's like, if I
ever leave you with something like that, call me out
and rebuke me, because that's this podcast should always be
beligned and the foundation of it should be hope. And
you're smiling like I'm gonna tie raid right now.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
No, I just I'm listening. I'm agreeing. The Lord is
not surprised by any of this whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
No, that's true, none of it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
And we don't know how this all fits into his plan.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Here's what we know is that the world is not
the way that it's supposed to be, but He is
redeeming all things. So with that, those truth that you
talked about, they run parallel.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
While we've been talking, Nicole has sent Okay, there's several
links of websites censored, censored autopsies. Study confirms COVID vaccines
caused seventy four percent of the deaths in this particular place.
Another one shocking report out about COVID vaccine injuries, and
(39:28):
then never seen before Siri, Aaron Siri, I just said
that word. My phone lights up. Aaron Siri reveals the
shocking truth behind vaccine trails trials. Sorry, I'm getting too
many conspiracies mixed up and my phone is currently listening
to me.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Do not be anxious about anything, Yeah, but instead pray
about everything you can allow yourself. And I love Nicole
to death. I adore her, and like you said.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
It comes from it, It comes from.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Motherly you and I you know, I love that. But
we also have to be careful because if you live
in that world, that's the rabbit hole that you go down,
and then it can make you anxious and scared and frustrated.
And worried and you just don't want to live in
that space.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, of that. So we'll finish it with this comment below.
If whatever you're listening wherever, whatever platform, go to YouTube
and let us know your thoughts. Let us know your
thoughts about all of it. I mean, rebuke me on
all of it and say, graindeer, why do you even
bring this up? Now, I'm anxious because you even brought
it up. That would not be my intention. I'd just
like to get us thinking, Yeah, yeah, let us know
(40:35):
if you've had injuries or if you know of any
situations where this has happened, let me know that. Maybe
we can you and I can come back and kind
of review what people say. We could do a follow
up episode about that, and and then and also comment
about your the anxiousness and the foundation that we have,
(40:58):
and we'll kind of review all this. I think it
would be helpful and encouraging for all of this.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I agree. We got zero questions.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, we didn't get any questions. That's okay. Cindy, my
mother in law, sure love you, love you, Mama, Sure
love you, Mama, Nicole, sure love you. All the people
that we mentioned today, Thank you for the for the
content and you listening. Appreciate you, sure love you. See
(41:27):
you next Monday. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast.
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Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yig
Hey, welcome back to the Grangersmith podcast. I'm Granger, my
guest is Amber today as my wife, and I'm so
glad you're with me. If you are listening on Spotify, Apple,
any of the other podcast apps, thank you and welcome.
And I encourage you to also check out the YouTube
version of this and you'll see why in a minute.
(00:32):
But my encouragement is that you comment on the YouTube
version because we're going about to get into something that's
gonna spark some questions here, not questions, some.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Comments, comments, controversy, I don't.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Know, controversy. Yeah, We're we're gonna spark some things. But
I'm actually genuinely interested in what the listeners of this
podcast have to say about this subject. And they might
already know what. I don't know what the title of
this podcast is yet, but they they do, and that
might be why they're wanting to know what we have
to say about it. But I will say this, it's
(01:09):
interesting you go back five years almost five years, like
four point eight years ago, and we wouldn't have talked
about this on a channel like this for fear that
it would be shut down or shadow.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Band they were taking down.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the word I remember in the
in the height of COVID, the word that we used
to not be able to say. I don't even know
if we could still say that, honestly, I know, I
don't know if there's.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like still something there some striker shadow band, they might.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Be still kind of striking that word. Surely not. But
I remember what text like Rob Turkla Lunkers TV and
and Matt character demo demo Matt I would just say like, Hey,
what's the status on on the the Internet's usage of
these words? Can we use them? And it like progressively
(02:04):
got worse and worse where it's like, hey, you can't
see anything. Are YouTube's going to hide you in the podcast?
Are going to shut you down?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I still feel like it's kind of like that
on social media on certain platforms. There's some people that
I follow where if they share certain things on this topic,
they do make a post that says I've been shadow
band or go follow this other account. They have to
make separate accounts because other ones get shut down. So
I feel like it's still kind of a thing. Is
heavily so.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But I think partly what I'm saying right now is
I don't really care. Yeah, that we're going to talk
about it and I just don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, it's what you and I have been talking about
in the house the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, so let me finish that first. That first thought.
If you're listening, awesome, thank you, and also go to
YouTube so that you could watch and comment, or just
go to YouTube after you listen so you can comment
because I'm going to read these comments and see what
you think. You can also email me podcast at grangersmith
(02:59):
dot com. We check those and aunt Mantle will get
your email podcast at grangersment dot com if you want
to comment or ask a question and we can answer
that or use that as a topic. And I have
some questions we can get to if we probably will,
We'll probably get to these questions. The topic at hand
(03:21):
is something that I see a lot in the questions,
and I see you and I have talked a lot
about it. I was with Nicole, my publicist. I was
speaking on a podcast in Nashville like three days ago,
and Nicole meets me there. She lives in Nashville, and
we were at this church and I was like, what's
(03:42):
the latest, Nicole, Because she keeps up with all this
stuff and correct me if I'm wrong. Everyone listening. It's
the middle aged women are the dirt diggers when it
comes to this kind of stuff. All of a sudden,
I think, as far as I know, first time in history,
I can't think of another era or another generation when
(04:02):
the women were the dirt diggers of conspiracy in this country.
And it's not a bad thing. It's a good thing
because the dirt diggers are the usually mothers that are.
It's coming from a mode of protection. It's coming from
a place of I'm gonna protect uh oh, not my
babies they are. They ain't gonna be dealing putting. I'm
(04:24):
in a homeschool. I'm gonna they're gonna only eat you know,
grass fed beef that mama grows in the in the
at the ranch. You know, Like it's comes from a
place of protection. But because of that, now there's like
all these theories. And it started with she used to
live in La a long time ago as a publicist,
and I was like, she said, what do you want
(04:46):
to know? And I was like, how about the fires
in La? She goes, you know, She's all, oh, let
me tell you, Granger, you have no idea she started
talking about smart meters, utility meters, you know, like the
get away from the smart one. She's like, I'm calling
she lives in Nashville. She's like, I told Chip, my husband,
(05:07):
I told him, you call the electric company and you
tell them I want analog meter on our house. I
don't want that smart meter anymore. I don't want them
looking in and seeing seeing what we're using our utilities
or whatever else. You know, there's a lot of other theories.
She's talking about them exploding in LA and stuff like that,
and like being detonated. And I was like, what what
(05:29):
social media accounts do you follow? And she's like, a
lot of them, I'll show you.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well to think about that is if you start following
those that gets in your algorithm and that's all you see,
then you just keep going down the conspiracy rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, she gardens. She's been gardening for like two
years straight, just garden, like doing well. But then she
was she had she admitted in Nashville. She's like, I'm
still really into gardening, but I'm starting to lose a
little bit of hope because they're raining down those chemicals
on my garden. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, there's so many conspiracy theories and this, yes, many
people will comment lots of conspiracies.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And she's a Christian, so she's you know, she's blaming
everything on the enemy. It's like, this is all an
attack from the thief that comes to steel keel and destroy. Yeah,
you know her uh, her father in law's long time
Baptist pastors. So she's but but she's taken it. She's
taken on that role much more than Chip. I was like,
what does Chip think about all this? And she didn't
(06:28):
really answer, But I think because I know Chip, I
love him to death, and he's probably like, all right, babe,
you do your thing. You know, I'll call the electric
company and tell him I want to Analog met her
on the house, so let's get into what we want
to say, and so that that kind of led me
to what we What happened during that conversation about fires
(06:49):
and kim trails and everything else, Nichols talking about it
kind of led me. And by the way, ant Man,
who produces the show, he's he's really informed on this
stuff too. That got that got our conversation to a lament,
And that lament between Nicole and I was me and
(07:11):
her are the only two in each of our families
that were vaccinated. Yeah, and both of us got vaccinated
because of our job, because you know, at the time,
and we talked about it and we lamented that decision
that we made. And you know, I was going to Canada.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I remember at the time, I was pregnant. You were pregnant,
so you were trying to you were trying to protect
me and the baby and the family because you were
traveling so much. So that's why you decided to go
ahead and get the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And we just legitimately didn't know. Yeah, And anyone listening
right now that thinks they knew, they didn't. I'm sorry.
You just didn't because no one knew. We thought we knew.
We didn't want to, no one wanted to get vaccinated.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So in my crew, yeah, I think that's all over
the world. So many people were forced to and if you,
if you didn't do it, you lost your job.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah. And I didn't do that with my band and crew.
That that's not something I said. I didn't say you're
going to lose your job over this. I did tell
everybody if you if we're going to a venue, and
a lot of them were checking vaccines during that time.
If we're going to a venue and they're checking vaccines,
(08:21):
you either need to hide, or you need to disappear,
or you need to find someone that can come replace
you for that day. Please, I said, Look, guys, I said,
I love you. I would never tell you to get vaccinated.
That's just not my personality. I would never force that
on you. But please don't make that your decision. Don't
please don't make that a problem for me that then
(08:43):
I have to replace a bus driver or a guitar
player or a drummer, Like, will you please, let's figure
this out. Either we all vote against it and none
of us tour, which is an impossible decision when bills
need to be paid. Anyway, that's so, I'm sorry, I'm
just as.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They were making the artists get vaccinated, were they checking
the people coming in the door to the shows?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
What we found during that time was that most of
the time they were telling us that. They were telling
Chris that as he advanced the show, like make sure everyone.
You know, the city's making sure every even the bands
are all vaccinated. Anyone backstage, we need to check your
vaccine card otherwise you can't come and what we learned
(09:26):
was that was like the police chief and all them
pushing that on the theaters and the venues. But when
we got there, they would be like, we don't care,
you can come on in. We're like what you told
us to They're like, yeah, as long as the police
chief's not here or as long as they're not checking
in on us, just don't say anything. So that's what
it always turned out to be. So like bull who
(09:46):
never got vaccinated, butch never got vaccinated, and they were
just like, okay, they took my deal. They were like,
we're gonna drive, We're going to go, and we'll just
play the odds, like if it comes down to it,
we'll make a fake card or we'll disappear around the
end of the dumpster, but we're going to take our
(10:07):
chances to just go. And they that gamble paid off.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Was there ever a time that y'all weren't allowed to play?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
No, there was. I think Dell Diamond and Round Rock Sexes.
You remember that, Yeah, I think they kept like the
non vaccinated crew like back I don't know, I can't
really remember. It's such a vague fog in my mind.
(10:37):
But then we went across to Canada. That was like
the big one, you know, those Canadians, those guards at
the board. We all pulled out our vaccine cards and
they were like, I don't want to see that. Yeah,
And I thought about it, and I was like, of
course you don't want to see that. Why would you
want to see this little cardboard piece of paper signed
(10:57):
by Walgreens? What does that mean for a border patrol
agent in Canada looking at some employee in Walgreens in Georgetown,
Texas that just scribbled something on.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A card that could be easily manipulated.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't care. They were like, go but you Moore,
were like, yes, here we go, you know, in fact,
in fact, no now in my memory, in fact, I
think they took us like all the way to the
border and then we we ended up some somehow, We
(11:33):
ended up going over and renting gear or something without them,
and they stayed for a couple of days in a
border town like Buffalo, New York, Detroit or something. Frustrating.
So Nicole and I back to the story, we lamented
that she and I got vaccinated and I got a
booster and she got a booster to keep our jobs
(11:56):
just because we didn't know, but then we then we
were grateful and thankful to God that chip didn't and
you didn't, and the kids didn't, None of our kids did.
She has two kids and we have three. Maverick, you know,
when he was born, the second he breathed oxygen, they
gave him a COVID test.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, because I had COVID.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, because you actually had COVID. Crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, And there was so much conspiracy all around throughout
those years of what was in the vaccine and was
it hurting people? But then as time went on, you
started hearing stories of effects possibly from the vaccine. So
that's how you and I got on the subject of
it the last couple of days. Yeah, we're problems that
people were having cardiovascular problems, strokes, sudden death, you know,
(12:44):
people were did you remember seeing all the like the
comedians and people would be on stage and they would
just fall over.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, and we're gone football players.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean it was just a lot of people
were just were just passing away. And there's that documentary
called Died Suddenly, and I think it was in twenty
twenty two and it was in Balmers and funeral and
funeral homes that were looking at these deceased people and
finding these long, white like look like ribbon looking things
(13:14):
inside their veins of people that were vaccinated that were
causing like these clots. Now, that is since people have
since discounted that documentary as you know, like people will
say that it's not fact checked and all that, So
I can't say what's true. All I can say is
that these people said that that's what they saw as
they were embalming these people and people in my life
have started to have issues, and so it just got be.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Thinking before you go there, though, have they sense debunked?
Art note? Have they sense come out and said, is
anyone of authority said yes, indeed the vaccines have caused problems.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, but I'll get to our story or to what
you and I were talking about. But what website is this?
My mom said this to me, But it says together
with their growing number of COVID nineteen vaccine receivers, a
range of vaccine related complications, including cardiovascular ones, have been
reported worldwide. And there's also been a significant increase in
(14:09):
blood pressure, which is what my mom's been dealing with lately.
Like she's had good blood pressure all of her life.
And all of a sudden, she's at like two hundred
and she had the vaccine in twenty twenty one. But
it just made me think, and I asked her, I said,
you got vaccinated. She worked in the medical field, so
she had to. She had three three shots, the boosters
and everything. And then my stepdad had an episode when
(14:31):
we were in Idaho recently, and it just got me
thinking he was vaccinated too, because like, these things are
starting to happen, and of course they're getting older and
it could just be their age, but there's just stories
of people having problems with the vaccine. So I would
be interested to know, you know, if people in the
comments have had issues of being vaccinated and stroke symptoms
(14:51):
or so.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I'm going to read recorded that. I'm going to read
something here coming up that Nicole sent me and then
have people kind of get involved on YouTube here if
you tube lets them, but maybe they won't. I don't know.
I think it's more important to talk about it than
worry about if youtubes. I'm not gonna let it. I
think it's it's a it's interesting. And you remember Moonrise,
Oh we all got Drick.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They were we all had to go get tested what
like every time we came to set ridiculous around.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Debbie was her name, sweet sweet lady. Yeah, she was okay,
she was. She was very sweetly and I gave her
big problems because you know, I'm genuine. I guess I'm
a nice guy. I try to be a nice guy,
and especially to a sweet woman that's about my mother's age.
(15:40):
I would always be sweet, but I was pretty firm
with her. I was like, Debbie, you can't keep doing
this because the problem was Dusty had COVID or or
he tested positive. Yeah, and we're shooting the dance hall
scene and they're just like relentless about these stupid COVID checks,
(16:01):
you know, every day. And she comes on the bus,
wildf IER's there and we're all up there. Montana was there.
She comes up there and goes, can I see Dustin
Saxton And he's like h And she's like, you tested
positive and we're like okay, so we're gonna go play, right.
(16:25):
She was like, I have to ask him to leave.
What are you talking about? We're about the film? A movie?
Yeah you remember that?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, didn't your co star have it? Or they sent
home like the first week.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Or something, or no, or it was like a thread
of it or the threat.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Of it, or something something happened and somebody was so
worried about it. Crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So if you watch the movie, Blake Stewart is playing drums.
This my sound guy, Blake instead of love him the desk.
So glad he was able to do it. But they
sent Dusty home and every day she would come back
in and as the movie continued to we continue to
shoot it. I got to this point where I just
wanted to finish it, like, let me just finish, and
the weather was delaying us. We're having all these problems
(17:07):
with just finishing the movie. I had tour dates coming.
I needed to finish the movie. So she'd come on
the bus in the morning. Like with that COVID test,
I go nope, knowing that if I tested positive, they
would delay the whole movie a week. And I was
like nope.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
She's like, Granger, I have Toby.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I love you, but you're not touching my nose. You're
not touching me with that thing. She was like, honey,
I have to that's my job. And I was like,
you're not touching my nose, Debbie, And it would like
get a little heated like that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And I remember those COVID tests and I remember I
had to take one one time, and I swear there
was something on the end of that Q tip, something chemical,
and I it was not. And then I got scared,
like what did I just put in my nose? Like
what were they? But I went down the conspiracy hole
theory thinking I just injected myself with something up in
my nose. It was just you never knew. And then
(18:04):
there was like false testing. It was just it was
a big mess. Yeah. But anyway, all that to say,
there's just been some issues with people in my family
and it just made me think all of those people
have been vaccinated.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Fact, let's take a break and then tell me what
your mom's saying.
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Speaker 1 (20:33):
So tell me about your mom. This is recently, and
this is significant because of who your mom is. Why
do you say that because she worked decades in healthcare
in a hospital and your mother, I say that because
she's she doesn't do anything without research or without thinking.
(20:54):
She's very detail oriented, she's very protective, she would she's
not She's not loose with the things that she does no,
she's not. She's especially medical things, right.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
She's also by the book, like she will do what
she's supposed to do in rules.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, that's what I mean. So there's a little combination
of like she's very protective and she uses by the
book to do that. I wish we could have known
her when she was like eight years old. I bet
she was like that girl and she was like, everyone,
sit down and put your hands in your lap.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's so true.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So she worked in a hospital for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Like, yes, she wasn't a nurse or anything. She just
worked in another part.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
In accounting and so, but she was around medical staff,
doctor's patients, sometimes patients. She heard the whatever latest, the
latest news was anything in the world. Your mom heard
it because she was there. She lived it for decades.
And so when when COVID hit and she was like,
(21:54):
we should get vaccinated, and and you were like, well,
I mean do we know that? And your mom was like, look,
I've been talking to these doctors. They're my friends, I
love them, my colleagues. They're very smart, and they're saying, yeah,
all the data says we should get vaccinated to be safe.
And so you and Granger and the kids all need
(22:16):
to get vaccinated. Do you remember that, right?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I mean i'd trying to remember that long ago.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And for you, because she was worried because you didn't
You're like, no, I'm not going to do it. There
are a lot of reasons, partly because I was like,
don't do it. And another reason was you were pregnant
or trying to get pregnant or something.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, right, and that we were definitely in the midst
of planning or pregnancy for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And we certainly were not going to get.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Our kids well, because she got vaccinated in twenty twenty one,
and that's when Maverick was born, so I was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Fast forward now she's retired.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, she Actually I think she got vaccinated for the grandkids.
If I think about it correctly. She wanted to protect
her family.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I guarantee you ninety nine percent of people that got
vaccinated that are listening right now or like, I did
it not as a selfish thing. I did it to
protect my grandmother or my elderly parents, or the babies, or.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The or immuno compromise people with cancer.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, or my spouse. You know. Yeah, that's why people
did it. So This is not a blame at all.
We were all duped on this thing. Yeah, go ahead.
So now fast forward, she's retired and she's having complications.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, she's just all of a sudden, she has extremely
high blood pressure that kind of came out of nowhere,
and it may be genetically predisposed. My grandmother did have it,
but for it to flip so suddenly was just it
just made me think, well, you were vaccinated. And then
my stepdad had an episode almost like I hope you
(23:42):
wouldn't be upset that I was saying this, but just
an episode, like a medical episode, and I thought, well,
he was vaccinated too, And so it just got me thinking,
all these people in our lives that have suddenly had
something complicating, were they vaccinated? And so that's what Grangeer
and I've just been talking about in the house. I
don't know, it's just I would be curious to see
(24:03):
if other people have had those problems as well. And
then it got him saying, well, I was vaccinated, and
I said, I know, I've been praying for you just
in case, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Know, So what is your mom saying? That's what I
want to know. The person that was like, I don't
want I want everyone to get vaccinated. I've listened to
the doggs. Now what does she sing?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's just making her think like, oh, maybe that could
be a possibility. So she's just going to her PCP
and she's going to see a cardiologist and just kind
of get all checked out because it's done. Now, Like
she's been vaccinated. So where do you go from here?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
How many boosters she's had?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think she had three shots.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So that's is that two boosters?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I don't know, maybe one and then two boosters made
I don't know, I don't remember. Yeah, you had two.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I got the main shot and then I got a booster.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, there's and then there's another lady. Oh god, he's gone.
That's not funny. That's not funny. No, it's not there's
another lady in her hospital who is now in the
ICU with complications, and I was wondering if she had
been vaccined. You know, I don't know, but they are
in their sixties. It just seems it just seems strange
that everybody at the same time is having something going on,
(25:13):
and they were all seemed to vaccinated around the same time.
Maybe think so one of.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
My theories on that, like if it was a conspiracy
to actually hurt us or to manipulate us, they didn't
do a very good job because there's not that many
people that are.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Sick, right, I mean I read something that said something
like over sixty three percent of the population did get vaccinated.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So a very small percentage out of that are actually sick. Well,
if you're listening and you know somebody or you have
been sick, or you know somebody that's been sick and
have some kind of complication that you think might be
from that vaccine comment below, we'll get a maybe we'll
see maybe there's more people than we think.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And Mike Granger said, this is not a condemnation type thing.
This is just something we've been talking about in the
house and just something that kind of sparked our our thinking.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So so Nicole sent me this and I was like, hey,
send me something. I'm going to get on the podcast
and talk about this. And she said, she said, check
your Instagram DM.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I bet she said it in that exact voice.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So it's this. What was the text. It was this
account that I guess they're doing the same thing I'm doing.
They're saying, hey, I've all my followers. Do you guys
have any complications? I'm curious. Here's what it says. I
became suspicious of the job back in January twenty one
when my nephew's girlfriend had a few colleagues in Salt
(26:35):
Lake City who were healthy in her mid twenties, and
she decided to take one of the first off her jobs.
She died about twenty minutes after she got the shot.
This stunned all who worked with her in the medical
clinic where she was employed. Her tragedy was only briefly
mentioned on a local news station. I think that clinic
(26:57):
declined or decided as a team that they would decline
getting the shot. The team of medical professionals at the
clinic where my nephew's girlfriend worked also decided to decline
getting the JAB. And so then she's offering who else
(27:17):
has seen something like this? And then here's some like
it's just like at Instagram where it's all the stories.
It's thousands of stories. My friend's dad had eight boosters,
but shortly after the eight he started having blood clots
everywhere and almost died. Thankfully, he is now okay. My
next door neighbor died suddenly the spring cardiac arrest in
his garage. I was working in the garden when all
(27:39):
this commotion happened. My mom received the first morderna. Two
months later, she was diagnosed with breast cancer and has
since had amsectomy. Lots of my insurance clients are coming
down with things more than any point in twenty years
in my business. One family member got cancer and died
(27:59):
within a year, one friend heart attack in her thirties
within one year. The high school one high school student
dead within a year. These are all separate people.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, that's that's a lot of what was coming out
at first was all these cardiac arrests in like thirty
year olds.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And another thing is important that these people are dming
so it's private, right, So, and they're all anonymous because
they're not. They don't want to they're not sure what
to say. This person said, I didn't want to comment publicly,
but I have a sister in law who got the
vaccine and boosters just to have a double missectomy and
will now have to go through chemo. Her daughter, who
(28:38):
was perfectly normal before the VACS plus boost, was diagnosed
with multiple autoimmune conditions starting started having neurological symptoms and
was just diagnosed with turets. Hard to say if they
have had some of these conditions without the shots, but
it's definitely suspect. And on and on and on and
(29:00):
on and on these stories of people look at this,
it's just I mean, I consider and look how many
these stories. There's a hundred of them. My cousin's husband
dropped dead on Thanksgiving blood clot and his lungs two
weeks after getting the shot. He was a strong, healthy,
(29:20):
forty five year old.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah. I mean, there's so many stories, hundreds of thousands
of stories about people with the COVID vaccine. But then
there's also hundreds of thousands of stories of just the
children's vaccine.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
My seventy five year old grandma, My seventy six year
old grandma started her period again. That's what it says. Wow,
I feel like this podcast is going to get muted. Probably,
it's gonna get shadow.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's gonna have like a big thing. This is false
fact checks something something, which is what we're saying. We
don't know. We're just having a conversation about it. It's
not like we're saying one is right or wrong at
least I'm not. I don't know. I was just thinking
about people in my life who have been vaccinated who
are now seeming to have complications. I don't know if
(30:05):
they're related or not.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
My friend's husband took the shot, had a heart attack.
He was found to be full of blood clots. The
cardiologist acknowledged it was from the shot, but the primary
care denied it. The cardiologists acknowledged it was from the shot.
We're seeing a lot of this blood clot thing. Yeah,
Like it's either heart attacks or lungs or clots or
all these things. It's so so bizarre. Honestly, this person
(30:35):
says it's genocide. If the masses ever wake up, they'll
understand why many of us are screaming from the mountaintops.
I haven't thought too much about it. Thanks Nicole for
you know, bringing this back. My thirty year old niece
got the JAB when she was pregnant four years ago,
has had all the boosters now all have leukemia.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
All all like her and her yeah unborn yeah or baby.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah. The cases of cancer among people I know is
outrageously high. Statistics show that cancer is four hundred, four
hundred times more since COVID vaccines have come out, but
people that believe the COVID vaccines are safe and effective
don't even realize the cancer is four hundred times more
since starting this vaccine.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
The sad thing is is that there's I mean there's
everything from environmental to the food that we're eating. I mean,
there's so many things that can cause all of these
issues in our bodies, and it is it's such a
struggle to wrestle with that. We know that as you
talk about on this podcast about our Lord being sovereign
and all of our days are numbered, you know. So
(31:47):
it stops me from wanting to go down these rabbit
holes of conspiracy because you just you just go on
a turning wheel.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Absolutely, and it's a conversation. We wouldn't I wouldn't dare
do a podcast with my name on it that we didn't.
We left people without hope, We left people worrying at
the end, think well I got it, or my husband
got it, or my kids got it, and Granger's gotten everything.
You got me scared now, So I think we know,
(32:18):
I think there's two things, you know, we could take
away because I am one of the people that's you know,
got it, and I promise you though I don't worry
one bit about my life, I don't either, but I
especially about death. I am not scared of death, you
know that.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And I am not worried for my mom or my
stepdad or anybody who got it. It's just something that
popped into my mind that are is that correlated or not?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah? So two things, One just top the top of
my head. One we we should be responsible. It would
be a sin for me to be irresponsible with my body.
So like, for instance, I wouldn't say I ain't scared
to death. I'll be out there and bungee jump off
the Grand Canyon, you know, or skydive off, you know,
(33:07):
the Empire State Building, because you know why, Jesus is
my savior and I'm not scared. That would be a
sin because that would be taking this body that I have,
this this tent for his glory to tell people the
message of redemption that we have from the blood of Christ.
And it would be a sin to treat that carelessly
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in a way that was self serving and seeking adrenaline.
Or and I think you could also add that would
be irresponsible to take vaccines if you had any idea
that they could be some kind of malpractice. So we
know that, let's be responsible. And if we know moving
(33:53):
forward that we should be more cautious about things like this,
let's be more cautious. Not because we're trying to extend
our life that outside of God's sovereignty and live more
days on earth than we were ever supposed to have anyway,
but because we should be responsible with the God given
gift of our bodies that are temples for the Holy
(34:17):
Spirit to carry out his message. That's a waitist, that's
a way to say it. Second, that's the first thing.
And the secondly, God knows every day is numbered for us.
He knows every hair on our head. He knows before
we were even formed, all the days that were formed
for us. Our days are numbered by Him before we
(34:41):
were even created. There is no there is no tricking that,
there's no manipulating that. So those two things. The Bible
does this all the time. Christianity, a walk with Jesus
carries two truths simultaneously intention with each other. And so
(35:05):
in this case, the tension is let's be responsible, let's
care for our bodies in responsible way, not in an
idolistic way like not idolized with uh, you know, facial
facial reconstruction and you know that kind of thing. Let's
let's be respectful and let's stay healthy, and let's be
aware of things like vaccines and prayerful and if you
(35:29):
know vaccines. I heard Rogan say this before twenty twenty.
He said, I would have said vacuum vaccines are maybe
the greatest invention in human history.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, afterwards, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It got rid of so many different diseases.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So let's be responsible and not not discount the actual
medical uh triumph that is a vaccine when it's done
the right way, like polio, smallpox. But let's be responsible,
let's do our research. And then the other the other side,
the other fist of tension is God is sovereign and
(36:06):
he's he's already written, he's already written your days. So
trust him because his life is a vapor. It's finite,
and we'll be gone, yeah, before you know it. It's
the Bible oftentimes uses the flower of the grass, and
in Texas we see that a lot. We see grass
in the spring it comes up and there's there's an
(36:27):
area on our on our in our front yard that
I know for a fact, because I've I dug in
it the other day. It has like six inches of
soil and everything else of solid rock. So because of that,
the the grass just doesn't do very well, except for
in the wet spring the grass will come up and
these little flowers of the grass come up and look beautiful.
(36:49):
And it's right in our driveway because you'll drive by
it and you'll look at it and go, wow, everything
looks so pretty, all these pretty flowers. And as soon
as it heats up enough in that rock underneath he up,
it fades and burns up. By Jesus says, like in
an oven, like the analogy of an oven, it literally
burns up and it's gone. And so that's an analogy
(37:12):
of our life. The Bible uses that. Isaiah uses that
in Isaiah forty, the Sermon on the Mount. James uses
that in James one. The all these analogies, so that's
Matthew six, James one, Isaiah forty. All say, your life
is like grasp bro your life is like grass withers
and fades. So what will you do with it today?
(37:35):
And that's not a call for self help, that's not
a call to live your best life. Now, that's a
call to know what your purpose is now and in
the meantime, you're responsible with the vessel that you've been given.
That's all this conversation is. So, don't ever hear me
on this podcast, man, you call me out on YouTube,
(37:59):
call me out if I ever start some kind of
conspiracy that ends up being doom and gloom. And I
end the podcast and I say so everyone, good luck.
The Deep States out to get us, you know, don't ever.
They're they're blowing up our homes with with digital monitors,
you know, they're they're they're putting all the chemicals in
(38:19):
the air from the Kim trails and airplanes. They're killing us.
All the Chinese are listening to. It's like, if I
ever leave you with something like that, call me out
and rebuke me, because that's this podcast should always be
beligned and the foundation of it should be hope. And
you're smiling like I'm gonna tie raid right now.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
No, I just I'm listening. I'm agreeing. The Lord is
not surprised by any of this whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
No, that's true, none of it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
And we don't know how this all fits into his plan.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Here's what we know is that the world is not
the way that it's supposed to be, but He is
redeeming all things. So with that, those truth that you
talked about, they run parallel.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
While we've been talking, Nicole has sent Okay, there's several
links of websites censored, censored autopsies. Study confirms COVID vaccines
caused seventy four percent of the deaths in this particular place.
Another one shocking report out about COVID vaccine injuries, and
(39:28):
then never seen before Siri, Aaron Siri, I just said
that word. My phone lights up. Aaron Siri reveals the
shocking truth behind vaccine trails trials. Sorry, I'm getting too
many conspiracies mixed up and my phone is currently listening
to me.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Do not be anxious about anything, Yeah, but instead pray
about everything you can allow yourself. And I love Nicole
to death. I adore her, and like you said.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
It comes from it, It comes from.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Motherly you and I you know, I love that. But
we also have to be careful because if you live
in that world, that's the rabbit hole that you go down,
and then it can make you anxious and scared and frustrated.
And worried and you just don't want to live in
that space.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, of that. So we'll finish it with this comment below.
If whatever you're listening wherever, whatever platform, go to YouTube
and let us know your thoughts. Let us know your
thoughts about all of it. I mean, rebuke me on
all of it and say, graindeer, why do you even
bring this up? Now, I'm anxious because you even brought
it up. That would not be my intention. I'd just
like to get us thinking, Yeah, yeah, let us know
(40:35):
if you've had injuries or if you know of any
situations where this has happened, let me know that. Maybe
we can you and I can come back and kind
of review what people say. We could do a follow
up episode about that, and and then and also comment
about your the anxiousness and the foundation that we have,
(40:58):
and we'll kind of review all this. I think it
would be helpful and encouraging for all of this.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I agree. We got zero questions.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, we didn't get any questions. That's okay. Cindy, my
mother in law, sure love you, love you, Mama, Sure
love you, Mama, Nicole, sure love you. All the people
that we mentioned today, Thank you for the for the
content and you listening. Appreciate you, sure love you. See
(41:27):
you next Monday. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast.
I appreciate all of you guys. You could help me
out by rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube,
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Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yig
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