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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Nos that off. All right, I don't know Mike is On.
Did she actually say that? Y'all? See the apology this
is bullshit.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello everyone, I would like to take this opportunity to
sincerely apologize for a statement that I made yesterday at
my town hall.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
See.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I was in the process of answering a question that
had been asked by an audience member when a woman
who was extremely distraught screamed out from the back corner
of the auditorium people are going to die. And I
made an incorrect assumption that everyone in the auditorium understood that, yes,

(01:02):
we are all going to perish from this earth. So
I apologize, and I'm really really glad that I did
not have to bring up the subject of the tooth
fairy as well. But for those that would like to
see eternal and everlasting life, I encourage you to embrace

(01:27):
my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Talk about arrogance. I will Democratic state Representative J. D.
Chulton call her comments callous and dismissive. He also is
confirmed he is running against Ernest when her term ends
next year, saying she has disrespected is Ones on far

(01:52):
too many occasions. All right, let's talk about this with
our panel journal US right now, Doctor Mastapo Santiago, I
leave former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice at the EPA
at the DC to Richardson, Civil's attorney out of Los Angeles.
Julian Malveaux economists President Emyrit have been a college author
of Surviving and Thriving in three and sixty five Facts
in Black Economic History out of d C. Glad they

(02:13):
have all three of you here, boy, pretty arrogant there
mustafa from Jony Ernst. And this idea that oh I
was being so compassionate and know you weren't to stop.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's dangerously arrogant. You know, the callousness is most definitely there.
But this is dangerous rhetoric because it actually shows you
who these folks are well, who.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
They value, what they value and for someone to actually
play with people's lives like this, and you know, it's
a shame that we have elected.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Officials who have the power to actually help people, to
uplift people, to help.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Them to move, to take something from Julian, to move
from surviving to thriving, and refuse to do it, and
to be so catous with people's lives.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
You know, when we look at the actions that they've
been continually doing.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Not only are they cutting the safety net from folks,
but they're literally pushing people under under the water, you know,
taking away people's opportunities to have at least base health
care in place, you know, making sure that folks have
the food and the nutrition that they need to actually
be able to, you know, help them to strengthen their bodies.

(03:28):
So for someone to say that everyone is going to die, yes, eventually,
we all will die, but why are you all continually
trying to speed up the process?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That really is the case, Julia. Are these people are crashed,
They're shameful, they're despicable, and they're showing exactly who they
are exactly.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
I mean, this woman, well she's consistently ignorant, so we
shouldn't be surprised, but I was surprised at the callouses
of it. And then the flip, forgive my language, the
flip asks walking through the cemetery talking about everybody's gonna die.
The fact is that every eighteen minutes, somebody dies because

(04:12):
they don't have healthcare. Every eighteen minutes. The fact is that, yes,
we all gonna die, but we died differently.

Speaker 8 (04:18):
Question.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
I wrote a column today, We're all gonna die.

Speaker 8 (04:21):
But how and when? If, in fact, the average white.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
Man has a sixty six percent life expectancy, No, I'm sorry,
average black man has a sixty six life expectancy white men.

Speaker 8 (04:33):
Seventy one.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
We we go down and we see the differences, and
so who dies, how and why? And when we look
at the leading causes of death, many of them have
racial implications. So the war of the Trumpian war against
black people continues with this. I call it the big ugly,
you know, with the big ugly that even Elon Musk

(04:55):
has had to say something about, how do you transfer
dollars from medicaid? These are the poorest people from medicaid
to the wealthy, and that's literally what they're doing. The
shame on Joni Earns, but also shame on her colleagues,
who probably would not articulate such callousness but certainly believe

(05:17):
in it. And we see the ways that they believe
in it in terms of the way this bill. Republican
Senate majority leader says he wants this bill on.

Speaker 8 (05:28):
That person's desk by July fourth.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
We know that they go out usually in August, so
they're fast tracking this thing. They're fast tracking many people
right death.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
This is why I mean to watch. What's going on
here really is crazy. Joe. You heard Julian reference Elon Musk.
This is Musk, he tweets. I'm sorry, but I just
can't stand it any more. Of this massive, outrageous pork
Field Congressional spending bill is a disgusting Obama shame of

(06:01):
those who voted for it. You know you did wrong,
you know it. And then he goes it will massively
increase the already gigantic budget deficit to two point five
trillion and burton America's American citizens with crushingly unsustainable debt. Uh.
Then I saw earlier he had tweeted something which I
which I was just absolutely cracking up laughing. Hold on,

(06:24):
let me see if I can pull it up. Let's
see if I can pull this up. This was this
was just too much for me. How it was like,
oh my god. Uh? And then oh, he made this
reference about how folks who voted for this need to
be targeted next year in the election, and I'm like, fool,

(06:47):
You're the one who helped put down Trump there, what
are you talking about? You know? But again, it's like
all of a sudden. Now y'all, now y'all running from
what's going on. Yeah, yeah, we hackday. We tried to
tell you.

Speaker 9 (07:04):
Yeah. Well that's pretty disingenuous, even on Elon Musk's part.

Speaker 10 (07:07):
He might, you know, he might have a Colonel trup
here and there as it pertains to exploding the dead,
and but you know, he's not talking about uh uh
getting rid of tax breaks for the for the most wealthy,
et cetera. And so you know, so, so that's interesting
that he would have something to say about it at all.
But it's a little bit of a sideshow. Uh, This senator, Uh,

(07:30):
you know, it's interesting. She did a whole bunch of
things at once. She showed, you know, a fundamental insensitivity
and this theme that when you speak truth about the
effect that these things that these folks are, these things
that these people are advancing, that the Republicans are advancing,
you're being divisive, you're being untruthful.

Speaker 9 (07:49):
No, you're not being untruthful. Medicaid is gonna get cut away.

Speaker 10 (07:52):
These things that are vital to people's existences are going
to get cut away. And then on top of all
of it, she gonna throw Jesus send it too. So
in other words, now that I've been divisive, now that
I've shown you that i have no care for the
least of us, now that I've shown you that i
have no sensitivity and no reason for anybody to connect

(08:14):
to what I'm saying from a humanity standpoint, Now I'm
inviting you to my savior. Okay, fantastic. So now what
we get to do is we get to make more
atheists because you've got Jny Ernst reminding folks that do
what they do on Saturday why they don't go to
church on Sunday.

Speaker 9 (08:32):
I mean, it's just really crazy.

Speaker 10 (08:34):
You know that this is going the way that it's going,
but you know, people have to continue to sound alarm
and speak truth.

Speaker 9 (08:41):
Just speak truth.

Speaker 10 (08:41):
It's not a device to say that you're taking money
from people and for those that are the least of
us and doing tax breaks for the wealthy.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
That's precisely what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm really getting a kick out of the chickens coming
home to roost and how all of these people most
off but now have to own up to their bs
go to my iPad. Henry Margreie Taylor Green has been
getting ripped because Democrats have been pointing out that what
this bill does is this bill actually does not allow

(09:12):
states to regulate AI for a decade now, keeping my
Republicans are always talking about how they believe in small government,
how they believe that you know again, you know, less,
less government intrusion. But they love to tell other folks
what to do. And so look at this idiot, she

(09:33):
goes full transparency.

Speaker 11 (09:35):
I did not know about this section on pages two
seventy eight two seventy nine of the OBBB, the strip
states of the right to make laws or regulate AI
for ten years.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I am adamantly opposed to this, and it is a
violation of states' rights and I would have voted no
if I had known this was in there. Because you
didn't read it, we have no idea what AI will
be capable of in the next ten years, and giving
it free reiin and tying state's hands is potentially dangerous.

(10:07):
This needs to be stripped out in the Senate when
the OBBB comes back to the House for approval after
the Senate changes, I will not vote for it with
this in it. We should be reducing federal power and
preserving state power, not the other way. Around, especially with
rapidly developing AI. Even the experts warn they have no
idea what it may be capable of, what may be Mustafa,

(10:30):
if that dumb ass had used AI to ask what
was in the bill, it would have readed for her.

Speaker 9 (10:35):
Dumb ass, you read my mind.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
You read my mind.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
You know, he said trust I continue to say it,
and I know some people don't like it.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
But you've got a whole bunch of unqualified folks who
are there.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
You have congress persons who are unqualified, and we see.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
It play out every day in front of us.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Evidently they have staff that is also unqualified and uneducated,
because if you had a good chief of staff or
a legislative director, one of their jobs is making sure
that you are well briefed in that before you go
into cast your vote, that you've been able to work
through all the various things to make the best decision.
We've got an electorate that that continues to not take

(11:16):
the seriousness of their vote and putting these types of
people in office, So then you end up being hurt
by the same people that you put into office. And
then if you want to talk about AI or a
couple of the other sort of priority issues that we
as a country have to get our arms around, and
you're not taking it serious and understanding all the possibilities,

(11:38):
both positive and negative, that these future sets of actions
that these tools will bring.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Then once again, you're not doing your job. You're supposed
to be putting whoever put you in office in the
best position for their lives.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
To be uplifted.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
But you have these people who are unqualified, who are unprepared,
and are unseerious about the job that they were hired
to do.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I had to sit here and watch these fools, Julian,
because I mean, it's not just her. They're getting ripped
apart in all sort of town hall meetings, getting blasted
left and right for not actually reading the bill, you know.
And it gets even better because you know, you've got

(12:27):
this so called Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon. This idiot
was on Capitol Hill today and the questioning was absolutely
just perfect. If you want to see stupidity in action,
this is what happens when you put a wrestling executive

(12:48):
over the Department of Education because she's dumb.

Speaker 12 (12:53):
Watch im you Center Mullen.

Speaker 13 (13:01):
Thing you chairman. Now, I'm sure what's the definition of sanity,
of sanity, insanity?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Insanity?

Speaker 14 (13:13):
Yeah, doing the same thing over and over again and
expecting a different outcome?

Speaker 15 (13:16):
Right?

Speaker 13 (13:16):
And what was we ranked in reading and math in
nineteen seventy nine? I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
What what was.

Speaker 13 (13:22):
We ranked nationally in math?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
And Okay, hold on stop? I'm sorry. Did that man
say what was we ranked? I know, I know, Jola,
hold on, drop the lower third. I want you all
to see the tweet, says Mullin. What were we ranked

(13:47):
nationally in math and reading in nineteen seventy nine? Y'all,
this is a Republican I know what the lawa third says.
I know what the tweet says. But I want you
to now listen again, audio all the way up. I
need you tell to listen. This boy here didn't go
to English class.

Speaker 12 (14:05):
Listen very much, center, Mullen thinks.

Speaker 13 (14:09):
German.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Maun't sure.

Speaker 13 (14:13):
What's the definition of sanity.

Speaker 12 (14:15):
Of sanity or inity?

Speaker 13 (14:17):
Insanity?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Insanity?

Speaker 14 (14:20):
Yeah, doing the same thing over and over again and
expecting a different outcome?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Right?

Speaker 13 (14:24):
And what was we ranked in reading and math in
nineteen seventy nine?

Speaker 12 (14:28):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 13 (14:29):
What was we ranked nationally in math and reading in
nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 14 (14:34):
We were very very low on the totem pole.

Speaker 13 (14:36):
Were number one in nineteen seventy nine. Today oheventeen. Okay,
in nineteen seventy nine, we were ranked number one around
the world.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
First, she acts like she didn't hear your ass heard
him say nineteen seventy nine, and she just spits out
we were low on the totem pole. We were ranked
number one. So he's so dumb Julian that she showed
her ineptness in the answer. But his ass said twice,
what was we ranked in nineteen seventy nine?

Speaker 7 (15:15):
Stop and roll with it. You're gonna make me follo
out by chair laughing. I mean the ignorance, the other ignorance. No,
he didn't go to English class, didn't go a math class,
didn't go to any class. But guess what neither did she.
She's hofully, she's woefully unprepared all up.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I should have known. I mean, because you know, he's
the United States Center from Oklahoma, and we know where
they rank. And when it comes to oh yeah, that's right.
He's the dude with the plumbing business.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Okay, so yes, so who sends out his invoices?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah? Him and his wife. They've expanded Mullein Plumbing to
become the law largest service company in the region. They
they have Mullin Environmental to rowan steakhouse. I wanted this
this day, family, I hope they asked, is no English?

Speaker 7 (16:16):
They probably don't. The apple don't fall far from the tree.
This is a disgrace. I mean, it's an other disgrace
to have, first of all, such an ignorant United States senator,
but more importantly and more frighteningly, to have a secretary
of Education who is uneducated.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
Is apparently clearly.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Where was we ranked his state? Julian is forty eighth
in education. I was gonna put it at the bottom five,
so thanks, no, hell, hey, no, it's the bottom three.
Where where was we ranked, Julian? I'm sorry, go ahead, I.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
Mean, I mean this is hilarious. The way that they're
running the government is hilarious.

Speaker 7 (17:02):
And the challenge, of course, is that our young people
are the ones that are going to pay for this.

Speaker 16 (17:06):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
That's when you have a dummy and a fool on
a collision course.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
The collateral damage to our kids.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Joe, go ahead, Yeah, I mean this is crazy.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
And here here's seriously, you know listen. You know I've
been known to miss a word here there myself. You
know what I mean. Before I got in the more
you know, uh, you know, intelligent DIDs.

Speaker 10 (17:32):
I was always a smart kid, so I'm a little
left run.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
You ain't double down.

Speaker 17 (17:36):
And you know, like when you were saying it the
first time, where.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Was we ranked?

Speaker 15 (17:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I said right time, I'm saying that. I just
said that. Let me recalibrate that. What were we ranked
in nineteen seventy nine? No? No, his Bama his Bama ass?
Oh what shoot your question? What was we ranked in
nine nine?

Speaker 9 (17:59):
Yeah, let me say that again. But my thing is, listen.
It's one thing to Julian's point.

Speaker 10 (18:04):
To Julian's point, listen, he don't talk too good, doesn't
talk too well.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
See how I fixed it at the first time. But
if he was actually.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
Competent, then I'd say, well, you know, he doesn't sound
like too much. But they seem like they're going to
add and subtract. The worst thing I can say about
them is that presentation aside what they're presenting, what they're
what they're bringing, what they're doing from a competence standpoint,
is so willfully and acted with, and so there is
an iron even on top of that, it don't seem

(18:34):
to like to speaking clear English, particularly when they want
to point out other folks and what they think of
other folks. Problems and false are This is what they
define to be DEI, the negatives of Deif if de
I was a negative thing, we would be looking at
with them.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Now you all know I'm being real petty. Uh uh
so these people have I go to my iPad, these
people have post it on Twitter. Is one person put
what were we ranked? I'm like, no, don't know what
was we ranked?

Speaker 9 (19:07):
Right right right? He needed that emphasis that was you
know what was we ranked?

Speaker 10 (19:12):
You know sometimes that helps you with your swang and
your swagger.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
So I'm just a little bit hate no swag in
that there is no swagging in proper English. If my
mama were alive, she a ruler because that's what she
used to do with us when we split verbs and
hit him with a ruler. So, I mean, of course
he's probably been hit so many times that that has
caused part of his lack of cognition.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
You know, sometimes it feels good to say, you know
what I mean, I get it.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
I guess, but in a Senate hearing, in a senatary,
I don't think so.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
In the bar maybe, so yeah, there's irony there for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
So yeah, that's that's that's why I'm sitting here correcting
this tweet. Yes, I'm tagging his ass to no Oklahoma center.
Mullin asked what was he ranked? He did it twice.
Oklahoma Oklahoma is ranked. Oklahoma's ranked forty eighth nationally in education. Clearly,

(20:11):
hold on, let me be real, I tell you I'm petty.
Let's see clearly he is exhibit A send. Okay, all right,
all right, I just want to go ahead and get
that out there. There was another exchange that I thought

(20:35):
was really funny. Uh. It was Linda McMahon and Senator
Chris Murphy. Uh. The issue came up about Harvard uh
and them ending de e I. Now this exchange was
too funny y'all about them ending de I, but they

(20:56):
still wanted d e I when it came to conservatives.
It was like, Okay, I'm sorry, that's what y'all want,
So let me go ahead and set this up. So again,
they're against DEI, but they want DEI when it comes

(21:17):
to stuff that they want. I told these folks are
dumb go changes.

Speaker 18 (21:24):
You told them that they had to end all of
their diversity programs, but that they had to institute viewpoint diversity.
That doesn't seem to make sense. How do you tell
them to end all the diversity programs, and we assume
that this is a mandate that you will make of
other schools as well. How do you ask them to

(21:47):
end diversity programs will instituting viewpoint diversity? This seems to
be totally contradictory.

Speaker 14 (21:53):
Now, the diversity programs that we've asked and demanded to
be eliminated, where the dei where they were those programs
actually were pitting one group against another?

Speaker 18 (22:05):
Is a viewpoint diversity? A diversity program.

Speaker 14 (22:08):
A viewpoint diversity is exchange of ideas that's actually better.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
Absolutely now here.

Speaker 14 (22:13):
Because Harvard only has three percent, by its own numbers,
three percent conservative faculty, do you think they are allowing
enough of viewpoint diversity through that teaching?

Speaker 18 (22:22):
Where in the statue? Where in the statute does it
give you the ability to cut off federal funding for
a university based upon your decision, your determination that they
don't have viewpoint diversity? Can you cite to a statute
an authority the Congress has given you to micro manage
the viewpoint diversity of a college.

Speaker 14 (22:38):
Well certainly if well, now let's back up.

Speaker 18 (22:42):
Well no, no, no, I think that's really important. No, no,
no question you cite a statute is you can't cut
off funding for universities unless you have a statutory authorization
to do so. So what statute gives you the right
to tell any university that they have to have a
certain mixture of viewpoints?

Speaker 19 (23:00):
So here's what happened with Harvard.

Speaker 12 (23:02):
It was the simplimia.

Speaker 18 (23:03):
I don't mean to be I don't mean to provide
up being hospitible.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
We'll have to give you some I.

Speaker 15 (23:09):
Have to give you a sack statue.

Speaker 14 (23:10):
The statue is Title six.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
These were civil rights violations.

Speaker 14 (23:13):
That is why we filed the case and defunded or
stopped the funding for whiffle Harvard as well as we
did Columbia, And in that conversation with them, we talked
about different things that they should do coming back to
the table to make their programming better. The president of
Columbia absolutely indicated, as well as the president of Harvard,
that they needed to do things on their campus to

(23:35):
eliminate anti semitism. That was kind of the crux of
what brought us into talking to the different universities, and
then we sat down with them to say, Okay, these
are other issues that you need to address on your
campus because you do receive federal funding, and under federal funding,
if you are breaking.

Speaker 18 (23:51):
The lane they did under titled I know, I don't know.
I have an inception of it was rights slot to
give you the authorization to micromanage viewpoint diversity on campus.
That's that's not authorized under the Civil Rights Title provided
to you by the United States Congress.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Now, isn't that amazing? So so so they literally are saying,
they literally are saying, Joe, we can use the Civil
Rights law. That's the statute. Actually, what Senator Chris Murphy
should have said, well, she kept she couldn't answer. He
should have said, Secretary McMahon, statue st A t U

(24:32):
t E. He should have spelled it because she had
no idea what the hell it is. Okay, So what
he should have done was he should have spelled it out.
And she's saying the Civil Rights law and you saw
how she went. Well, we did an anti semitism. We know,
the Civil Rights Law talked about discrimination when it comes
to age, race, gender, but also also religion. But now

(24:58):
y'all getting it well, then well, then after that there
was some other thing. No, no, no, hold up, yeah,
how you there's nothing in the Civil Rights Statute Title
six that she said that speaks to the issue of
ideology that's not covered by the Civil Rights Statue. Joe

(25:23):
is not covered on the.

Speaker 10 (25:25):
Civil Rights liwe So for those of you that that
that weren't sure, you know, you want to just kind
of buy all of this, you know, wholesale, without thinking
about it, without having any thought, without applying any electional
intellectual inner side exercise to it.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yeah, be be confirmed.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
Be it confirmed that there is no such thing as
a viewpoint being a protected classification under federal law.

Speaker 15 (25:55):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (25:55):
This is totally made up. It's totally manufactured. And this
whole thing I'm still waiting for from an understand to
help me understand, help me see how it is that
getting rid of DEI.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
Actually helps you with anti semitism.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean this right here, go to my iPad Henry.
This right here, y'all is literally from the Department of
Justice website, and it says. Title six was enacted as
part of the landmark Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four.

(26:32):
It prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, and
national origin in programs and activities receiving federal pactual assistance,
not ideology.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
Ideology is nowhere to be found there. And so you
know what, this is consistent. It's part of the course
of what it is that they're going to do. They're
going to take the civil rights lall make it mean
what they want to. So what they're looking for are
right people that are being discriminated against and actually are
crac ad enough to go and help, you know, South Africa,
you know white Africaners that are.

Speaker 9 (27:04):
Being discriminated You just bring them over, use tax dollars,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (27:08):
But yeah, there is no protection for a viewpoint that
is not a protected classification.

Speaker 9 (27:13):
And I'm glad Harvard's fighting on that.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Absolutely crazy, absolutely crazy, But it's the sheer in at
this of the people who are in charge. Let me
go to a quick break. We come back. We're gonna
talk on one of the candidates running from mayor of
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Speaker 20 (28:14):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg car We
featured the brand new work of Professor ANJ. Porter, which,
simply put is a revolutionary reframing of the African experience
in this country. It's the one legal article everyone I
mean everyone should we Professor Porter and doctor Alipiah Watkins

(28:35):
our Legal round Table team join us to explore the
paper that I guarantee is going to prompt a major
Aha moment in our culture.

Speaker 21 (28:46):
You crystallize it by saying, who are we to other people?

Speaker 22 (28:49):
Who are African people to others?

Speaker 8 (28:52):
Governance is poward thing.

Speaker 22 (28:55):
Who are we to each other?

Speaker 21 (28:57):
The structures we create for ourselves, how we order the
universe as African people.

Speaker 20 (29:02):
That's next on the black tape. Here on the Black start.

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Speaker 17 (30:14):
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Speaker 1 (30:20):
Gonna be good, folks said three weeks voters in New
York City go to the polls to elect the Democratic
primary and Problican primariy the next mayor of New York.
Of course, Mayor Eric Adams is the incumbent, facing a

(30:42):
number of people running against them. I mean, look, it's
just a huge feel. Of course, looking at various polls,
former Governor Andrew Cuomo is leading in the race. One
of the folks who's running is former State as Simbiloman
Michael Blake. He joneses right now, glad to have you
here first and foremost, Michael. It is a lot happening

(31:04):
in this race, lots of candidates. How do you stink
with yourself? How do you set yourself apart in order
to be competitive in this campaign?

Speaker 24 (31:14):
Well, look, Rolan It's good to be with you always,
and I appreciate that you would dropping all the knowledge
about the foolish, just as Lynda McMahon just a segment ago. Look,
tomorrow's a major night for us. It is the first
time that we will have a debate with nine of
us on stage. It will be the first time that
we have actually been on stage with Andrew Cromo, who
has avoided being with us on stage this entire time

(31:35):
since it has been in the race. And as we've
been talking through the responsibility of how we address affordability,
what do we do address anti blackness, how are we
actually holding police accountable having criminal justice, none of those
conversations have been.

Speaker 15 (31:48):
Happening at scale.

Speaker 24 (31:49):
And so our job, our opportunity, our time right now is.

Speaker 15 (31:53):
To say very clearly that you do not have to.

Speaker 24 (31:56):
Go back to the failures of Andrew Cromo. You can
actually change and gave it a new generational leaders.

Speaker 9 (32:00):
Been Michael Blick.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
So you're having this particular debate when you look at polling,
it's not good for your campaign and really most of
the candidates, so much attention has been placed on Andrew
Cuomo in incumbent Atoms got Council President Adrian Adams as well.
And so how do you set yourself apart and what

(32:24):
are you doing when it comes to reaching the voters
for them to select you.

Speaker 24 (32:30):
Yeah, so most of these polls right now have been
based on name recognition. Number two in the polls is
expectively undecided. And so when we think about what's happening
on Tomorrow night seven to nine, when people can actually
watch us on Channel four to see that there is
a difference, we can finally have a moment to break out.
What we've said is look at the organization, the momentum
that we have had. We've had sixteen thousand people that

(32:51):
sign out petitions across New York City. We have endorsements,
second most clergy endorsements in the race, three Bridges Democratic
Club in the Lower east Side, em Gage Action across
the city, multiple electors that will announce on tomorrow as well.
And so our opportunity is that we finally will have
people paying attention to the race rolling and as I
said often as someone who worked for President Obama for

(33:12):
close to seven years, many times throughout that election, that
first election, people said, this man does not have a
chance because the name Markisier on Hillary Clinton, they said
the same thing because they weren't taking someone seriously when
it came to Donald Trump.

Speaker 15 (33:25):
We think about where we're at right now. Four years ago.

Speaker 24 (33:28):
Eric Adams took the lead at the end of May.
Before that, Bill Deblasio was behind our job. Is that
now that people finally have a chance to see the
difference that I'm going to lay out the case. Do
you actually want to address affordability by ending credit scores
at hurt black and brown Poe? Do you actually want
to have civic financial literacy and mental health to help
our students go to school? Do you finally we want

(33:48):
to address having a thousand mental health professionals when it
comes to subways in the streets. If you believe in that,
do not go back to Cuomo, change the game and
go with Michael Blake.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
We talk about issues. Crime is always the issue. Influx
of migrants is an issue as well, but specifically, we
know black voters play a huge role. What are you
saying to black voters about why they should pick you that.

Speaker 24 (34:17):
We can do both at the same time. Round that
we can say very clearly that yes, we need to
have a thousand mental health professionals out on our subways
and streets, because that has been the primary issue that
has been happening around keeping people safe while also making
sure that police officers have their body cameras. Also there's
actual accountability happening at the same time, so they can

(34:37):
do precision policing and go to the neighborhoods with the
greatest level of crimes that have been happened. When we
think about what's going on. Overwhelmingly, though, we have.

Speaker 15 (34:45):
To close Rikers because that is a place that is
the second largest mental health institution in the country right now.

Speaker 24 (34:51):
But we also got to make sure that people actually
have money in their pockets so they're not going to
Rikers and being arrested and jumping turnsiles in the first place.

Speaker 15 (34:57):
So we are.

Speaker 24 (34:58):
Saying increased wages, guarantee jobs, have a guaranteed income, make
sure people can actually have truly affordable housing. Take those
steps so that someone's not taking the wrong role. And
if you do that, then on the front end, we
can address what's happening around public safety, and in the
longer term, we can make sure if someone's not getting
garscerating the system in the first place. That's how you

(35:18):
change the game. And as someone who enjoyed police brutality
twice in my life when as an assembly member as
well as an elected official, as well as a high
school student, I've seen it on both sides. But it
does not mean that I don't want to go home safe.

Speaker 15 (35:31):
Whether it be the police or the community.

Speaker 24 (35:33):
Everyone wants to get home alive, and so we must
have public safety that has criminal justice and also accountability.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
At the questions from the Panel of staff of you, first, brother, Blake, is.

Speaker 15 (35:45):
Good to see you always.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I used to live in New York a while ago,
and I used to you know, I pay attention to
the various people who became mayors.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
One.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I know you have to be a great practitioner and
a great strategist, but I think there are also some
characters characteristics that are necessary to be a leader of
one of the most powerful.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
Cities in the world.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
What are those characteristics that you would bring to the
mayorship to be able to not only inspire, but to
also make sure people understood that you are taking the
job extremely seriously well.

Speaker 24 (36:19):
First and foremost, management, you got to show people that
you can manage, and I have managed a team of
fifteen thousand people when I was a National Deputy Director
of Operations over for President Obama.

Speaker 15 (36:28):
We can show.

Speaker 24 (36:28):
People what's possible to that degree. Second, we can go
a step further in terms of how do we actually
demonstrate that we're caring about the kids in this nonsensical
environment of Trump and Elan and their foolishness. And so
given what I've said my brother's keeper saying that we're
going to sue so that Ice is not in our
places of worship, our schools, in our community centers, making

(36:48):
it very clear that we're not going to allow them
to cut Medicaid and Medicare in our communities. That kind
of demonstration of the characteristics is someone who has compassion
while also being responsible.

Speaker 15 (37:00):
Also a husband, I'm also a bonus father.

Speaker 24 (37:02):
I'm an alpha, I'm a reverend, I'm a Prince Shaw Mason,
I'm a hundred black man. I understand the walk of what's.

Speaker 15 (37:08):
Happening on the block.

Speaker 24 (37:10):
And people need to know that you can elect someone
who can rock a suit and also put on tims
at the same time, that can actually be connected to
the people and ride the train while also leaving in
a corporate MEETIA. I have the experience as a small
business owner the experience as a national democracy leader. But
at the end of the day, I understand that in
this moment where Donald Trump is going to try to

(37:31):
cut our funding, I'm not going to sacrifice equity for everyone.
I'm going to make sure that black and brown folk
actually are protected. And that's the kind of characteristic you
need in this moment.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Right now, Jan.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
See you and congratulates. I hope you'll do well. I
wanted to my mayor in DC has had to shilly
shally around the person the president has had to shilly
shally around him, and you will likely be asked to
do the same. How will you manage the demand that

(38:05):
come from the FEDS around things like hud housing, many
things that the New York City really needs?

Speaker 9 (38:12):
How will you manage that person?

Speaker 24 (38:15):
Well, you taught me a new word right there, shilly shaley.
I'm learning right now, have new vibes right here.

Speaker 15 (38:20):
So look, I think.

Speaker 24 (38:22):
First and foremost you got to hold onto your ethics.
And one of the reasons why we're all running from
is that Eric Adams made a decision that it was
more important for him to kiss up to Trump rather
than actually help the people. And when we think about
the opportunity that exists. I've said very consistently we're not
going to agree to unconstitutional actions. And if Trump and

(38:42):
Elon try to cut our funds, we will go to
companies that are contracted with in New York City and
say to them, you will not send your dollars to
DC if you want to keep this contract, We're not
going to allow you to have unconstitutional actions and hurt
our people. We understand you got to check up bully
with power, and that's what I would do very consistently
and continuously, and so to that degree, I am not

(39:05):
here to allow for Donald Trump to be successful while
he's hurting our people. I am here to help our people,
and that is what you have to demonstrate.

Speaker 15 (39:12):
Lastly, we got to think about this.

Speaker 24 (39:14):
They only seem to be focusing on going after black power.
Just James here in New York, Rob Veraka in Newark,
Brandon Johnson, we're seeing it's over and over Conference mckibby,
We're seeing it's.

Speaker 15 (39:25):
All over and again.

Speaker 24 (39:26):
And so I'm not going to lose protecting my blackness
and our blackness while ensuring at the same time we're
protecting our people.

Speaker 15 (39:33):
We must do both and we will do both. I
learned that from being in the white out. I'm gonna
do it again.

Speaker 9 (39:39):
Thanks, Joe, like appreciate what it is that you're doing.
I want you to talk a little bit. It was
the one on one on rank choice voting.

Speaker 10 (39:49):
I think it's very interesting that New York City, like
some other places, does rank choice voting, and how it
encourages U people to analyze and look at all of
the candidates, because it's not going to be just that
your first choice is something that you want to look

(40:09):
at and be sure about, but it's also about looking
at other choices and how this system might be a
wild card that allows you to emerge.

Speaker 24 (40:20):
Absolutely, it's one of the reasons why I say to
everyone that pretty much everyone in this race still has
a very good chance because unless someone gets fifty percent
on a first ballot, which seems very unlikely, the way
it works is that every round of votes will continue
by the lowest vote getter being eliminated. So to everybody

(40:41):
that's watching, everybody's listening. My name is Michael Blake. I
am ninth on the ballot out of eleven candidates. It's
a random order. I am asking that you rank me
as your first choice. Absent v voting is happening right now.
Early voting starts June fourteenth. June twenty four is primary day.
If I'm not your first choice, you can pick up
the five people that are on your ballot. And so

(41:02):
very concretely, if I'm not your first, I want.

Speaker 15 (41:04):
To be a second. I'm not your second one, to
be your.

Speaker 24 (41:06):
Third, because if we do that every round, it's going
to keep growing, It's going to keep building from there.
And so the way you grow is not necessarily being
the second choice to an Andrew Cuomo. It's about being
a second choice to the other candidates that can advance.

Speaker 15 (41:22):
And my job is to show people that.

Speaker 24 (41:24):
Are thinking about those other candidates that won't advance, why
I should be their second and third choice, because that's
how you actually gain votes in the end.

Speaker 15 (41:32):
And I do believe we can.

Speaker 24 (41:33):
Demonstrate in a very concrete way across the city, starting
out our base in the Bronx, which has the busiest
polling place in America at co Op City, to what
we can do on in Queens and Rochdale Village in
Left Frock City, to what we can build out in
Manhattan where we're going to do very well in Harlem
in Lower east Side, so what we can do out
in Central Brooklyn. Being Jamaican absolutely helps me to what

(41:53):
we're going to do in Staten Island. We're not just
in the North Shore where he has a black base,
but in the South Shore where you have a lot
of moderates that like what we're doing. It's about gaining
enough of that support across the city, understanding you're not
gonna win by just getting first choices. You have to
have second and third choices to be able to win
this thing. That's what happened four years ago, That's what's
gonna happen this time around. And that's why I don't

(42:13):
want to keep reminding people you have the power. Rank
one through five for mayor, for comcholler, for public Advocate,
the borough president, but rank Michael Blake your first choice.
If I'm not your first choice, I want to be
your second choice. We have the information at Blake four
NYC dot com, Blake Othr NYC dot com. And if

(42:33):
you're still trying to decide on who should be your
one through five, I don't want you to take away
from rolland tomorrow, but I need you to watch our
debate tomorrow night, so you can finally see the difference
between us and Andrew Cromo and everyone else in the field.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
You're doing some work while you were talking, Mike. We
so appreciate it.

Speaker 15 (42:59):
Good luck, Always appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
All right, Thanks a bunch folks. Rosbaraka, who is the
mayor of Newark who's running for governor of New Jersey's
gonna be joining us on tomorrow show. He's firing back
with the federal lawsuit after what he calls a politically
charged arrest. He's assuing he's suing Alena Habba. Y'all know
who she is, the nutcase Trump lawyer who's a used
attorney for New Jersey, and so he's filed that particular

(43:26):
lawsuit against her as a result of the actions when
he was arrested, of course, detained last month outside of
the ice facility there in New Jersey. He says he
was led into a gated area by security to help
calm a protest, but he still got arrested and held
for more than five hours. The trespassing charge was later dropped,

(43:47):
but not before a federal prosecutor at Alena Habba, Trump's
former lawyer accused him of publicly of ignoring the law. He
says that was defamation, claiming and simple. Now he's suing
Habba and a Homeland Security agent for false arrests, malicious prosecution.
Raka says, this is not about revenge, it's about accountability.
What would say you, Joe, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 9 (44:10):
Glad he's doing it.

Speaker 10 (44:10):
And thing one has has occurred, and that is the
dropping the charge, right, and.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
So you know, we ought to and he ought to
be bringing a claim.

Speaker 10 (44:22):
He gets led in by security. He's there for a
totally different reason. He's not there to cause the rugets.
He's not there to do no, he's actually there to
do his job, do his oversighted related job, to be
representative to other people.

Speaker 9 (44:34):
And then he gets hammed up. And at the end
of the day, they dropped the charges.

Speaker 10 (44:38):
Because they knew they didn't have anything and so therefore
they ought to that US attorney ought to face some
ramifications related to that.

Speaker 9 (44:47):
And so I'm glad he's doing it and we'll see
what happens with him.

Speaker 25 (44:51):
Mustava, I mean, you got to stand up for what's right,
and he's doing that, and by doing so, he is
also making sure that others understand that they have power
in this moment.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
There are so many folks who are shook right now.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
They're afraid to say anything, they're afraid to do anything,
and they're afraid to stand up.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
So I'm glad that he is taking the actions that
he is.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
Julian, I agree with my colleagues here. He didn't do
anything wrong. The whole thing was a hot monkey mess,
including the man putting his hands on the congress one
from New Jersey. And of course, you know, your biscal
reaction with someone pushes you is a push back, and
so they want to. They have not yet arrested her.

(45:34):
They claim they're going to. I think they're going to
think better of it, especially as ros Baraka has attempting
now and laudably so, to keep these people accountable. They
are simply unaccountable. They're running rough shot through our constitution,
rough shot through any for any more rays of decency,
and they.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
Need to be stopped.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
And the only way is going to They're gonna be
stops if people like Rosbaraka stand up as opposed to
others who simply go along to get along.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yep, absolutely absolutely, all right, folks got to go to
a break, we come back more Rollamant unfolded the Blackstar Network,
including these idiots cutting off social security benefits for students. Yep,
the stupidity continues back in the moment.

Speaker 19 (46:21):
This week on the other side of change.

Speaker 11 (46:23):
In mass incarceration, Trump administration is doubling down criminalization and
how it is profitable.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
And there's something really really perverse about saying that we
need to put people in cages in order for other
people to.

Speaker 22 (46:34):
Have jobs Like that is not how our economy should
be built.

Speaker 19 (46:37):
Only on the other side of change on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 20 (46:45):
Next, on the Black Table with Me Great Call, we
featured the brand new work A Professor and g Porter,
which simply put is a revolutionary reframing of the African
experience in this country. It's the one legal art everyone
I mean everyone should we Professor Porter and doctor Velithia Watkins,

(47:06):
our Legal round Table team, join us to explore the
paper that I guarantee is going to prompt a major,
a high moment in our culture.

Speaker 21 (47:16):

Speaker 22 (47:20):

Speaker 21 (47:22):
Governance is power thing. Who are we to each other?
The structures we create for ourselves. How we order the
universes African people.

Speaker 20 (47:32):
That's next on the Black Table here on the Black
Star name.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Now streaming on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 26 (47:44):
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and we got.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
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I mean, I'm just like, let's go.

Speaker 27 (47:54):
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Speaker 1 (47:55):
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Speaker 26 (47:56):
This black girl is at the door with those white guys,
black applele girl and she.

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Said, oh my god, come, that's doll Away and I'm
like this you know it. And come to find out
we read the wrong door. But she said, I'm just
go in here. But I was in Paris, France, and
that shot me. She knew my name, she knew me
my movie. You know.

Speaker 26 (48:20):
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Speaker 16 (48:42):
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Speaker 1 (48:46):
I don't say I don't play Sammy, but I could,
Or I don't play Obama but I could. I don't
do Still Loan, but I could do all that. And
I am here with Roland Martin on Unfiltered. The Vera
Institute of Justice, one of the nation's leading voices on
criminal justice reform. They have found a class action lawsuit

(49:08):
against the Department of Justice for the canceling of some
eight hundred and twenty million dollars in grants. This is
a huge, huge decision. We have seen the vicious attacks
by the Trump administration against criminal justice reform organizations. I've
talked to various different folks about this, and they talk

(49:29):
about how they've been devastated by this. Literally, programs have
had to shut down, all sorts of different things have
been going on as a result of this. Literally some
on the brink of collapse. In Raman, vice president of
Advcacy the partnership of the Vera Institute, Jones us right now,
glad to have you on the show. For people who

(49:50):
don't really understand, they hear eight hundred twenty million dollars
in grants, how many different organizations are we talking about
in how many states?

Speaker 28 (50:01):
So eight hundred and twenty million dollars in federal grants
impacted over seven hundred organizations, including some local government agencies,
across thirty seven states. So it really is delivering safety
and programs and services that save lives across big cities, urban,

(50:23):
rural areas of this country, across the political spectrum. So
these cuts, every single person in this country should be
worried about them and should be angered by them because
it's fundamentally making every single American less safe to cut
this kind of funding.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
So again, I so we talk about people who are
in states organizations, but those organizations, that's people, that's staffers,
that's people with jobs, those are people with families, And
so the downstream impact you are affecting states organizations ins

(51:01):
and these are people literally We're walking into work and
folks are going, I'm sorry, we got to let you go.

Speaker 19 (51:09):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 28 (51:10):
So this organizing, this administration of the Department of Justice,
has justified these cuts by saying these are just woke
nonprofits that are doing who knows what, but it's not
actually public safety work. That's just not true to every
single person understands that it takes both government as well
as community based organizations to make our community safe. So

(51:33):
when a mom calls nine to one one because her
son is in mental health crisis, what does she want
doesn't want a police officer armed like ready to shoot,
she wants a mental health trained professional.

Speaker 19 (51:44):
Or when there is.

Speaker 28 (51:46):
Beef in the neighborhood and there has been gun violence
and we need to prevent retaliation, it's oftentimes the local
organizers and safety workers they're called community violence intervention workers,
who are the folks who know where the conflict is
happening and know how to diffuse it so that there
isn't the retaliatory violence. That's the kinds of programs that

(52:08):
this administration cut by cutting off eight hundred and twenty
million in grants. And look, this is going to impact
communities that have seen huge gains in public safety. And
we're talking in cities as diverse as Detroit and Baltimore,
Saint Louis, smaller rural parts of the country who have
seen huge declines in homicides and especially gun violence.

Speaker 19 (52:30):
All of that is jeopardized by these cuts.

Speaker 28 (52:32):
So everyday people truly should be upset because of what
it means for public safety. And then there are thousands
of workers who are trained experts in making communities safe
and preventing gun violence and providing mental health assistance and
working with victims of domestic violence and other kinds of
crime that are suddenly out of a job.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
A to your point about the impact in terms of
organizations and how they can his decision, they just just okay,
they've all of us, the all of us, the all
of it like whatever. That was no analysis, that was
no breakdown, that was no okay, what do these folks do?

(53:13):
They just one failed swoop. Everybody gotta go.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
That's right.

Speaker 19 (53:18):
You know, there's a Doge staffer.

Speaker 28 (53:20):
He's a twenty seven to twenty eight year old who
literally programs some kind of AI algorithm. And it cut
the over seven hundred organizations and government agencies that lost
their funding. And as soon as those cuts happened, I
mean we're talking like domestic violence shelters, victim recovery, and
trauma programs. Chuck Grassley, who is no lefty, he's no

(53:45):
DEI like, you know, lefty liberal by any stretch of
the imagination, he actually called the administration immediately after these
cuts happened, said, hey, you just cut off funding we
need for a trauma recovery center in my district in Iowa.
That was one of the grants that got turned right
back on within the days after these cuts were announced

(54:06):
last month. It's because they just didn't think about it.
They didn't even think politically about it. And so when
this administration justifies these cuts by saying, well, we only
went after the woke nonprofits and the stuff that doesn't
even work for public so they feel that it's simply
not true because they fixed some of their mistakes, not enough,
but some almost immediately when.

Speaker 19 (54:26):
They started to hear outcry.

Speaker 28 (54:28):
It just goes to show they're not thinking about the
American people or what actually works to make us safer,
make life more stable and secure for all of us.
And again, it's why we should all be angry at
these cuts. And it's why my organization, vehr insitut to Justice,
which was actually the first organization to have all of
its federal funding from the Department of Justice cut back

(54:49):
in early April. These cuts happened about three weeks later.
It's why we decided to take the lead and sue,
and how we're.

Speaker 19 (54:55):
Suing is as a class action lawsuit.

Speaker 28 (54:58):
And what that means is that even if everybody didn't
join the lawsuit, and a lot of organizations were like, look,
I can't be public, I am scared of this administration,
or I have other federal grants that I don't want
to lose. But if we win, then we will actually
get to benefit all of the organizations that had their
money cut. So it's not just about us, it's about

(55:19):
the entire field and making sure that we turn back
on the funding for the programs and services that save
lives and make our communities safe.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Mustafa, I'm gonna start with you. We actually saw the
exact same thing happen in the environmental space, and it requires, frankly,
an organization like the Beer Institute to say, hey, we're
going to do this to represent the much smaller group
that frankly can't afford the type of action staff.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, many don't have the capacity, They don't have the
resources to have the attorneys to be able to fight it.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
First of all, thank you for all that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I think it might be helpful for the country to
have an understanding that if we're not.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Able to reverse this, what does what does.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
The country look like? What are the real impacts that happened,
both in rural and urban communities across our country over
the next few years.

Speaker 28 (56:11):
So with Stapha, let me give two examples of the
negative impact that we can expect and that we will
see unless these funds are reinstated. One is I mentioned
a city like detroits seen huge gains in public safety.
Literally last year, shootings were at a fifty.

Speaker 19 (56:28):
Seven year low.

Speaker 28 (56:30):
I mean, that is a remarkable stat for a city
that many people thought of as the murder capital just
even a decade ago. And that incredible reduction and gun
violence has come about because of federal and local funding
that the mayor, the police chief, many community based organizations,
they came together and they said, Okay, how do we

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work together to focus on where violence is happening, to
intervene and prevent gun violence in the first place, to
set up the kinds of programs and intervention for young
people to keep them out of harm's way. And you
can see the results and with you know, literally in
Detroit alone, they lost over ten million dollars worth of
federal funding for community violence intervention programs, like we are

(57:15):
going to see a loss in public safety. We might
see more gun violence because of these cuts unless it's reversed.
Another example, one of the organizations that actually did a
lot of work with local rural police departments worked with
over thirty rural police departments across the country to make
sure that these police departments know how to respond to

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violent crime, and violent crime does occur in rural America.

Speaker 19 (57:41):
It's not just a big city problem. All of us
want to be safe.

Speaker 28 (57:45):
They cut those funds too, and so we already know
that violence is actually quite high. End crime rates are
quite high in rural America. Nobody talks about it, but
it's true. And you can see again any public safety
gains we've made because of these programs in rural communities,
they're going to be lost unless we reinstate these funds.

Speaker 19 (58:03):
So this isn't a big city problem.

Speaker 28 (58:05):
It is a problem for all of us, and we
need all of America to sit up and pay attention
to this. And there's a really clear solution, which is
right now. The US Senate is debating a budget reconciliation bill,
and you know when it went through the House and
got passed just last week, none of those Republicans thought
to put in those eight hundred and twenty million dollars

(58:26):
in lost funding. The Senate, we hope, has more sense
than the House and they actually put this money back in.
So if anybody is watching, they're like, what can I do?
Call your Senator right now and insist the eight hundred
and twenty million that was cut from the Department of
Justice for important life saving, community based public safety programs
reinstate those funds.

Speaker 9 (58:48):
Joe, thank you so much for what it is that
you're doing. Rolling got to it just a little bit.

Speaker 10 (58:54):
But what I'd like you to do has been turning
is just give us a quick primer for you know,
for Layman's terms as to what actually it means when
we allege that something is arbitrary and capricious and capricious.
This is something of course, it looks to be a
centerpiece of you guys claim and it makes a whole

(59:14):
lot of sense. Explain that to folks so that they
really understand.

Speaker 28 (59:19):
Joe, I love that you brought up are what's the
basis for the lawsuit? So the Department of Justice basically
cut all of these grants. They send all, you know,
all the organizations that lost funding basically the exact same
form letter. And what they claimed is that the work
that we do no longer aligns with this administration's priorities

(59:40):
for preventing violent crime serving victims of crime, even though
everything we do is absolutely aligned with those priorities, because
it's not just this administration's priorities, it's.

Speaker 19 (59:49):
All of our priority. In fact, it's not this administration's priority.

Speaker 28 (59:53):
And so the fact that they sent us a form letter,
the fact that they used an AI tool to just
cut these grants, and the fact that they actually have
to reverse their own mistakes very quickly when people like
Chuck Grassley called shows that these cuts were arbitrary, meaning
they weren't done with any you know, sort of individualized consideration,

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and that they were capricious, they were for means that
weren't really about public safety.

Speaker 19 (01:00:19):
And so that was the basis of the lawsuit.

Speaker 28 (01:00:22):
We're represented by an organization called Democracy Forward who've been
bringing lots of lawsuits challenging this administration and is unlawful,
you know, cuts to federal funding. And so the idea
is we as organizations, we have a stake in this
funding because we rely on it to do the important

(01:00:42):
work that we do, to pay our staff, to make
sure that our constituents and the people who benefit from
our programs are served. So that's one basis for the claim.
It's a basic contracts reliance claim. And then the second
is that even if you were going to cut these funds,
you need to do them in a way that complies
with what called the Administrative Procedure Act. It basically means

(01:01:03):
that government needs to act in a way that is
actually rational and reasonable. In the way that the administration
made these cuts violates that and so it's arbitrary and capricious.

Speaker 19 (01:01:13):
And what we've seen from.

Speaker 28 (01:01:15):
Other lawsuits is that these kinds of claims have been successful.

Speaker 19 (01:01:20):
And you know, we're not commenting on the lawsuit.

Speaker 28 (01:01:22):
It's it's an open question, but we are looking forward
to having this issue resolved in court.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
Going on, one of the things that stood out for
me as I looked at what was cut was services
for deaf people. We have had several deaf African Americans,
so it doesn't matter whether African American or not. Deaf
people who were killed because they didn't understand police commands

(01:01:52):
or orders. And one of the things that I believe
some of these grants were for was to have off
deaf people able to translate for deaf people. So this
strikes me it's just extremely harsh, especially when you look
at the people who've been killed because they didn't understand
police orders. Can you tell me more about that and

(01:02:14):
whether or not this is a special area that VERA
is looking into. By the way, I really over the
years have enjoyed various research and work. It's a really
very important organization. So thanks for being with us and
thanks for what you do.

Speaker 28 (01:02:28):
Well, I should say thank you so much for having
this conversation all of you. I think it's a vital
conversation that impacts.

Speaker 19 (01:02:34):
All of us. So you raise such a good.

Speaker 28 (01:02:36):
Point about people with disabilities and being underserved by the
criminal justice system and specifically at risk during a police interaction.
So we know over a thousand people are killed by
police every year, and a disproportionate number of them are
people who have a disability, like they are deaf or
they have a mental illness and they can't understand the

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police commands. And so one of the programs that was
the funding was cut was specifically to work with police
departments and make sure they have access to ASL interpreters
and to language assistants so that victims of crime who
are deaf and have disabilities could actually access and benefit

(01:03:17):
from law enforcement services. So it is really every sympathetic
population people who have disabilities, specifically to serve victims of crime,
and it was to make sure law.

Speaker 19 (01:03:29):
Enforce law enforcement works better.

Speaker 28 (01:03:31):
There's everything about this that delivers public safety, nothing about
this that is anti police or woke or whatever else
this administration wants to say. And yet that was exactly
one of the kinds of programs that was cut.

Speaker 19 (01:03:44):
It's a great.

Speaker 28 (01:03:45):
Example of just again how arbitrary and capricious these cuts
were and why they actually are opposite to public safety.
And I think the average person, you don't even have to,
you know, be political about this or sort of think
the police act with brutality, even though we know they
do sometimes. I think even to the average person, that
would feel absurd to cut funding for services that make

(01:04:08):
the police do their jobs better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
All right, Dan, and I just checked. This is always
interesting interesting to me. My pooled up when I went
to Google and I typed in viewa institute class action lawsuit.
Virtually no coverage. I see ABC News did something. I
look at something called the trace, and and and other.

(01:04:32):
You know, but pretty much mainstream media is totally ignoring this.

Speaker 28 (01:04:38):
Yeah, you know, mainstream media is ignoring this because mainstream
media isn't focusing on the things that everyday people care about.
People want to know that I have money in my wallet,
food on the table, a roof over my head, and
that I am safe and my kids are safe. And
this is an issue that I think feels so overwhelming

(01:04:58):
to people that it just.

Speaker 19 (01:05:01):
Doesn't get the kind of attention that it should.

Speaker 28 (01:05:03):
And yet it is such an important issue to people.
It's a kitchen table issue, it truly is. And so
mainstream media is actually doing us a disservice and they're
missing where the American public is by not giving this
any coverage. And so I'm grateful we're having this conversation here,
and I'm urging folks to go.

Speaker 19 (01:05:21):
Talk about this in.

Speaker 28 (01:05:22):
Your local press, because again, funding for public safety and
the things that actually save lives is about as important
as it gets to us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
All right, then we surely appreciate it.

Speaker 19 (01:05:34):
Keep up with good work, Thank you so much, Thanks
for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Thanks a bunch folks. Going to a break. We come back.
More drama for Saint Augustin's University. This time it's all
board chair. You would think of university having financial problems,
would not have somebody chair their board who has his
own financial problems. That's not the case. We'll explain next.
Rolling Butt and unfiltered on the Blastsood Network.

Speaker 20 (01:06:01):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Call, we
featured the brand new work of Professor Anji Porter, which
simply put is a revolutionary reframing of the African experience
in this country. It's the one legal article everyone I
mean everyone should we Professor Porter and doctor Alipia Watkins,

(01:06:22):
our Legal round Table team, join us to explore the
paper that I guarantee is going to prompt a major
Aha moment in our culture.

Speaker 21 (01:06:33):

Speaker 22 (01:06:36):

Speaker 8 (01:06:38):
Governance is our thing?

Speaker 22 (01:06:42):
Who are we to each other?

Speaker 21 (01:06:44):
The structures we create for ourselves, how we order the
universe as African people?

Speaker 20 (01:06:49):
That's next on the Black Table. Here on the Black Star.

Speaker 27 (01:06:52):
Names at KINGSLF King of rbvy me seriebre and you
know what you want.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
You're watching Rutland, Marty, I'm filming it. Carson Jerry Nadler,
New York, calling for a full investigation after disturbing inc
it took place in his Manhattan congressional office. Folks, it
all started when Natler's team offered a safe space to

(01:07:23):
immigrant rights advocate advocates who had just witnessed a federal
raid on migrants outside of immigration court. Moments later, officers
with the Federal Protective Service stormed into the office, accusing
them of harboring rioters. When the staffer was pushed back,
things got physical. Video showed the aid in tears as
she cuffed and was taken away. Nalla was on the

(01:07:44):
CNN explaining why things has happened before I play that though,
I want you to begin that videos. You can hear
exactly what happened in this video. Play it here.

Speaker 9 (01:08:00):
Okay, hold on, you're okay.

Speaker 15 (01:08:09):
I don't have to be okay.

Speaker 7 (01:08:10):
You're okay, You're gonna be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
You have the right to I'm a warrant.

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
The writers in the office.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Trying story about what happened.

Speaker 16 (01:08:38):
They were DHS was upset that some of my staff
members were watching them grab immigrants emerging from an immigration
court in the same building a floor a floor below,
and they're.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Upset that.

Speaker 16 (01:08:53):
My staff invited some of the observers up to my office.
They then came up to the office and demanded entrance.
One of my staff members said, you can't come in here.
You need a warrant. They said no, we don't need
a warrant, which is incorrect. This is and they barged in,
and in barging in one of the offices, a very big,

(01:09:19):
heavy set fellow pushed my aid, a very petite young woman,
and they then said that she pushed back and they
shackled her and took her downstairs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Now, the actions of these folks, I mean, the Trump
and his thugs have been bolting these thugs to act
the way they behave. Then you have these ICE agents
who a lot of people don't even know if they're
actually ICE agents, arresting people, targeting people wearing a mask.
How Democratic leader Hakim Jeffers was asked about this, This

(01:09:53):
was his response to these folks of their actions.

Speaker 29 (01:09:58):
Thanks you had said after Higri's mckiger was I think
you said physically accosted by ICE officials that you wanted
them identified. The officials that accosted them, Have they been identified?
And what do you expect from or do you want
the agents that were harassing Jerry Nadler staffers in his
district office also identified. What's the latest or how are

(01:10:20):
Democrats going to respond to the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Every single ICE agent.

Speaker 30 (01:10:26):
Who's engaged in this aggressive overreach, and I'm trying to
hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful
in doing that. This is America, so not the Soviet Union,
but not behind the Iron curtain. This is not the
nineteen thirties, and every single one of them, no matter

(01:10:49):
what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will
of course be identified.

Speaker 15 (01:10:53):
That in fact is the law.

Speaker 30 (01:10:57):
And to make sure that the American people have the
transparency necessary to hold people accountable when they're folks who
cross the line here in America, that's what's going to happen.

(01:11:19):
And as I mentioned earlier, and I spoke to Congressman
Nadler about this, our first priorities are always going to
be making sure the person who was on the front line.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Is in the best.

Speaker 15 (01:11:37):
Possible place to move forward.

Speaker 9 (01:11:41):
That's the case with.

Speaker 30 (01:11:42):
Lamonica mcgiver, and it is also the case with Congressman
Nadler's brave, young patriotic staffer. We've got to address those
issues first, that's the human thing to do, while simultaneously,
of course, pairing to deal with the broader policy implications,

(01:12:04):
which as I mentioned, are underway.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Thanks Julian, I mean, this is uh, this is crazy
I mean, this is we were seeing how again thugs.

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
Absolutely couldblems if this. I mean, it's absurd as the
young lady was described as petite, and you're talking about
a very large officer. That's unequal power, an equal physicality.
But there's so many other other aspects of that. These
people have been emboldened by the man who lives in
the house that enslaved people built.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
He has.

Speaker 7 (01:12:38):
They have been emboldened to put their hands on people,
to push people to be aggressive. And the issue is
who's going to stand up? I mean it's I think
you've talked a couple of times in just a couple
of hours about the misuse of power of people misused
power because they can, simply because they can. And so

(01:13:01):
thank you, Congressman Nadler for standing up for your staffer.
Wouldn't expect anything less of you, but thank you anyway.
And this has to be pursued, just like ros Baraka
has sued those Ice people who illegally arrested him and
are talking about arresting Congress Wan mcgiver, just like they're

(01:13:21):
standing up.

Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
Dabler stands up.

Speaker 7 (01:13:24):
But we have to stand up too. We have to
be able to say this is unacceptable, and you know,
we've got to flood the courts because the court seemed
to be the only recourse we have, and that's even
a very slim recourse. We look at the fact that
that man, that's all I can call him, is that
man essentially almost owns a Supreme court. We have, you know,

(01:13:50):
two people of hope. Kobe Barrett is a constitutionalist. We
can count of her sometimes, Roberts, right, She's just count
on him sometimes. But we're in precarious position.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Joe. You can't play footsy with thugs, you know you.

Speaker 9 (01:14:06):
Cannot, and they need to keep hauling them in the court.

Speaker 10 (01:14:10):
I share Julian's sentiment that sometimes the court doesn't move
the way it needs to, and sometimes it moves slow
as well.

Speaker 9 (01:14:18):
But here's the other point.

Speaker 10 (01:14:20):
People have to really just become aware of what's going
on and how the deprivation rights for one, is the
deprivation of rights for all and people from bottom up, between.

Speaker 9 (01:14:32):
You know, meetings, town halls and all these other things.

Speaker 10 (01:14:35):
People have to really speak up and be and be
confident in the notion that when they see something that's
morally wrong or that's legally wrong, that's exactly what it is, and.

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
It can't be taken and spun into being something else.

Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
And then make sure in the meantime and in the
future we're speaking the way we need to at the polls.
There has to be clear the reason why the executive
is doing so much of this is because.

Speaker 9 (01:15:05):
This is not going to be popular with people.

Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
It's almost as if they don't really fear voting rampifications,
as if maybe they know something we don't about who
will be able to vote, or how many boats they'll
be able to be or the integrity of the vote
and all those other things.

Speaker 9 (01:15:20):
People have to speak with their feet, with their hands,
with their voices, and with their votes.

Speaker 31 (01:15:28):
Christapha, you know, I wake up every day and I
often feel like I'm in a dystopian novel, an Octavia
Butler classic, if you will, because like for the FPS.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
You know, I've known a number of people who've been
a part of the FPS. They have a responsibility of
protecting government buildings and the people inside of them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
But yet I see folks now taking on characteristics and
doing things that I've never seen them do in the past.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
And you know, for the folks in the various three
letter organizations that I've known over the years. Also, you know,
my question to you is I know you know better,
and when are you going to do better? I understand
it's a job.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I understand you take orders from those above, but there
comes a moment in time when you have to say,
this is not right, this is not what America should be,
and this cannot be what America becomes because we will
no longer have in America. Even though it has never
been perfect, we've always had the opportunity to move it

(01:16:31):
in a positive direction. And when you do these types
of things, you rode people's confidence, even if it's a
small amount of confidence or a larger amount.

Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
And we've got to change this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
So all the things that both Julian and Joe said
are incredibly important.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
It is about, you know, making sure that we vote.
It is about making sure that we get engaged. But
it is also about us also making sure that people
are being.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Held accountable, and we hold people accountable by using our
voices in this moment, along with the court system.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Folks Drama at two HBCUs will first start with Texas
outher University in Houston. Late last night. This memo was
circulated by university president JW. Croft for the third, It said,
Dear Tigers and Tiger families. In the coming days, you
may see media coverage regarding allegations of misconduct involving a

(01:17:23):
senior member of the Texas Southern University leadership team. This afternoon,
the university was made aware of these serious allegations through
the filing of a civil lawsuit. While the university is
not named as a party in the litigation, and please
be assured if Texas Southern University takes all allegations of
misconduct seriously. In alignment with our policies and values, we
have initiated an independent investigation to ensure a fair and

(01:17:44):
thorough review of the matter. The executive in question has
been placed on administrative lead. The safety and well being
of all members of our community students, student athletes, faculty,
and staff remain our highest priority. Due to the sensitive
nature of this matter and to preserve the integrity of
the investigative process, University will not offer any further comments
at this time. Thank you for your understanding and continue support.

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Well that it wasn't a few days. It was actually
it was actually made public today in terms of what
took place, and that is the head of Athletics at
Texas the university go ahead and pulls. Kevin Granger has
been placed on administrative leave as a result of a

(01:18:27):
lawsuit being filed by a female employee who alleges sexual
assault as well as sexual harassment. This here is the
lawsuit the plate she files it against Kevin Granger for
sexual assault and harassment. According to this lawsuit, she alleges

(01:18:49):
that what took place on get To on April thirtieth,
an incident took place in his office. Now she details
her actions that he was engaged in wrong for communications
and things along those lines, and she felt uncomfortable in
his presence following a baseball game in late April, and

(01:19:12):
then he made an offhand comment to her. Then on
April twenty ninth, he asked her to come to his
office to grab some documents, and then that's when she
said a bizarre behavior took place. She said that he
was asked she asked, He asked her, are you wearing
a wire? Was she recording him? She said she felt

(01:19:33):
uncomfortable due to his intimidating physical size as a former
NBA player as well, he says defended. Grangeer continued to
pursue a line of questioning with increasing vulgarity, asking the
last time she had sexual intercourse. He requests to see
her vagina and perform oral sex on her. He groped
her breasts and grabbed her arm, manipulating her her hand

(01:19:54):
onto his erect penis. She said, miss, hearing physically frozen
as he continued to make vulgue request uh. And then
she eventually was able to get out. And again uh
as the letters say that he's been placed on administrative
leading these allegations UH filed against her. But again she
alleges this took place a little more than one month ago. Uh.

(01:20:16):
And of course there's been no comment uh thus far
from his legal team. That's gonna double check. Here a
story here. Lawsuit was filed by the by the Busby
law firm that's who she hired uh in this particular
case to file the lawsuit. UH. And UH let's see here. Uh.

(01:20:39):
They have redacted the name uh in in their statement,
but it's actually in Uh the actual lawsuits not filed
under a was not filed and so you know this
is again a female employee of Texas at the university. Again,
the lawsuit was actually filed in court. That was the

(01:21:03):
case there. Let's talk about what's happening at St. Augustine's University.
We have been covering the absolute drama at TSU for
quite some time. Just just again, absolute craziness going on,
uh there, This time involves the board chair. Now, now

(01:21:27):
we've covered this story before. You've covered this story before,
which is just insane. Let me prepare y'all for this.
Now we know the problems, the financial issues they're at,
the financial issues there at Saint Augustine's. But check this out, y'all.

(01:21:50):
Brian Bulwer, who is the chairman of the board okay,
facing back backlash after three cigar businesses that he owned
off of bankruptcy, halting a lawsuit over a six hundred
thousand dollars loan he took from a former trustee, George Brooks.
A judge rule that Bowlwear spent the money on personal luxuries,

(01:22:15):
including a range Rover hotels, and even paid a Saint
Augustin's University employee, calling his business nothing more than a
front for personal expenses. However, just before a key hearing,
Bullwear's companies filed for Chapter seven bankruptcy, effectively freezing the case. Now,
Brooks's legal team is pushing the whole bullwear personally accountable.

(01:22:37):
With sau's accreditation on the line this summer, critics say
it's time for leadership change. Julian, can you imagine an
a university with financial problems has a board chair with
financial problems. That's the last person you want leading you
right now.

Speaker 7 (01:22:58):
Too many members of boards of trustees use the university
for their own personal purposes. This guy should never have
been a board chair ever, ever, ever, and his colleagues
should never have lit him any money. I mean, you
don't lend you know, my mother used always say never
ask the neked person to lend you address. In other words,
this dude don't have no money. Why would you borrow

(01:23:20):
lend money to somebody who don't have no money? And
I'm being deliberately miss dramatical role just so you know, but.

Speaker 8 (01:23:28):
I mean, it's absurd.

Speaker 7 (01:23:29):
But it saddens me Roland to see our HBCUs in
this kind of trouble. We know that we have extra
screwgare on us. We know that much of the money
that we get, we like, we depend on Title three
that's gonna be cut. And this just gives the devil
more opportunities to talk about how irresponsible we are with

(01:23:52):
the sexual harassment cases. Don't you know any better? Don't
you know any women? I mean, you don't know any
women except for people who work for you. That makes
no sense at all.

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
But the bigger but what these guys, and it is guys.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
I'm sure women probably do this too, but I don't
know of it. These guys are taking the whole hp
H brand and tarnish it with their ridiculous behavior. And
it's really sad and we need to just run on
both out the race.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
This is crazy. Mustafa again the lawsuit. You borrow money
from a former trustee, you don't pay it back, he's
suing you all back and forth. And you're the chair
of the board when you're having financial, massive financial issues.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
My grandmother says, when you know better, do better.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
This is just messy and trashy and all the things
that you should never be associated with.

Speaker 9 (01:24:51):
I wasn't on eleven.

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
Boards, I'm on ten boards now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
I make sure that I never do business with anyone
who is a part of the boards, let alone board chair.
You just don't put yourself in those types of ethical
situations along with the legal situations. And Julian she captured
it perfectly, because we are under such scrutiny right now,
and you continue to give people, you know, the ammunition

(01:25:18):
to to continue to you know, just hurt our communities
and to hurt our academic institutions.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
So it's just a shame.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
I mean, it's beyond shameful because we have a responsibility,
those of us who have been blessed with some level
of access some people might.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Say a little bit of privilege.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
We have a responsibility to protect our institutions. We have
a responsibility to protect our people. And folks just aren't
taking it serious. So when you don't take it serious,
even though I'm always about the upliftment of black folks,
you deserve to get what you get.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I Joe is crazy, insane.

Speaker 10 (01:26:01):
Through that big time, and ultimately and interestingly, what they're
trying to do is pierce the corporate veil.

Speaker 9 (01:26:09):
I tell people this all the time. You quick, little
one on one, don't.

Speaker 10 (01:26:12):
Open up now this is a different thing, but don't
open up your little LLC and think that people can't
pierce the corporate fail and get at you.

Speaker 9 (01:26:19):
I tell people most of the time, open the corporation.

Speaker 32 (01:26:22):
And keep it formal and so that it's less likely
that someone could sue you, add you as an individual
and successfully pierce the corporate vail because you don't have
the if you're just using it as a shell company
or whatever else, which is where they're going now, because
they're what they should have done is pierced it in
the first place.

Speaker 9 (01:26:40):
Now they're trying to do it once the company's file bankruptcy, name.

Speaker 10 (01:26:44):
Him as an individual in the first place, if they
didn't pierce the corporate veil at the same time, hopefully
get the judgment against.

Speaker 9 (01:26:50):
Him and against the corporation.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
All at once.

Speaker 9 (01:26:53):
Now they're trying to do that the other way.

Speaker 10 (01:26:54):
But let this be a cautionary tail aside from hbu's
and colleges and make me sure that they have the
right leadership and fiscally responsible leadership. But in you and
handling your own business corporation ex corporation Y, in corporation
C key separation so that no one can come and
pierce the corporateville, because now it's totally defeating the purpose

(01:27:15):
on the corporate protection that you thought you were getting
by forming a corporation.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
That's just crazy to me. That's just absolutely insane to
me that this person would be the board chair. Unbelievable,
absolutely unb believable. Yeah, and I don't said long ago
that he needs to resign, He damn sure needs to
resign as as a result of this going public. This

(01:27:45):
just makes no sense whatsoever, folks. Some sad news. Anam
May Robinson, one of the last surviving members of the
fame six Triple eight unit, has passed away. She was
one hundred and one years old. Robertson was among the
eight hundred and fifty five women in the six hundred
eighty eighth Central Postal Directory Battalion, the only all black
female unit station overseas during World War Two. The women

(01:28:07):
were sent to Birmingham, England to clear a nearly three
year logjam of males. Sacks of letters were piles ceiling
high in a dark and dam warehouse destined for home
six soldiers fighting in Europe. In twenty twenty two, Robertson
d n ninety eight and other members of the six
Triple Eight receive the Congressional Gold Medal, one of the
highest civilian honors awarded in the United States, and so

(01:28:30):
certainly said to report her passing her passing all right, folks,
tonight in our marketplace seven, we're shining a spotlight on
HBCU legacy fashion generally. Right now is a founder at
North Carolina anti alum Shilena Folks. I hope I'm pronouncing
that right, Chileanalena. Yeah, Jolena Folks, all right, So tell

(01:28:51):
us about HBCU legacy Fashion. Yeah.

Speaker 33 (01:28:54):
So hbc legaxcy Fashion was founding in tway twenty. I
had the idea in twenty nineteen to create some fashion
forward HBCU kids closed, and.

Speaker 22 (01:29:07):
It just became something that was a whole thing for
the family.

Speaker 33 (01:29:09):
So once I started sending out my jackets to the kids,
the pear and said, you know what, I wish I
had something like that.

Speaker 8 (01:29:15):
I then thought, you know, why not make.

Speaker 33 (01:29:18):
Something that can extend the legacy for our HBCUs while
also giving back to the schools because all of our
products are licensed, and you know, as an alum of
North Klina at State University, I started that school. First
created these denim jackets that everyone loved. The hoods would
zip off, and so it became a whole movement. By

(01:29:39):
twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two, we were inside
of belk Essence fest just doing all the things, and
so our goal is to continue to extend the legacy
for HBCUs and start with the little ones to teach
them all about their parents HBCU and hopes that they
would one day go just to bring a spotlight on
HBCUs and to be able to give back.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Well, this is the one of the shirts here, HBCU Legacy.
First of all, fantastic colors, I must say, and it's
raised leathering. This is this is leather and it's a
really really high quality sweatshirt.

Speaker 7 (01:30:17):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 33 (01:30:19):
I knew that you would love those colors.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Bye.

Speaker 33 (01:30:25):
So yeah, that is one of the goals I had
for the business was to create something that was not
already on the marketplace. I saw a lot of products
apt before heat pressed, and I wanted something that would last,
you know, through the washes, but I just through the washers,
but through the years, so you can pass it on
to someone else in your family or another future HBCU legacy.
So high quality was one of the things that I

(01:30:47):
really wanted for the products.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Same thing. This is a Norfolk State sweatshirt right here
in the same thing. I mean, it really is high quality.
I'll be honest with you, I really prefer I really
prefer like when I get products, I really prefer raised
lettering stitching as opposed to your point about a heat press,
because when you wash it, you dry it, it begins

(01:31:10):
to break apart. And so this year, I mean it
really is and like I say, high quality, high quality stitching,
but also the fabric itself.

Speaker 33 (01:31:22):
Absolutely, Thank you so much for loving it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:25):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 33 (01:31:27):
Everything that we make for adults, we make it in
kid sizes. It's a mommy and me, daddy and me line.
So if you see the adults, you'll see it in
the kids size.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
So you did so in terms of how many different
schools do you have? How many different sort of skews
do you have? Yeah?

Speaker 33 (01:31:47):
So for as far as the schools, we have about
twenty one hpcus that were licensed for and we continue
to grow each year. We have a variety of SKUs,
so whether it's a Dinim jacket, a cowgirl jacket, something
that's a part of our HBC legacy collection. The T shirts,
we have the sweatshirts. Again that here's the kid's version
of the one that you have.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
This is the this is the the T shirt. Uh,
the the black T shirt here and the same thing
even with the T shirt, you have that that that
raised lettering, so that that's a bit I rarely see
that type of type on a T shirt.

Speaker 33 (01:32:25):
Yes, you don't see it, so you stall here first.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
He absolutely absolutely so. Uh again, folks, if y'all go
to shop Blackstar network dot com for HBCU Legacy Fashion,
you can see the various products again. Uh, and I'm
telling you that, like really really, I'm a firm believer
when it comes to T shirts and sweatshirts, really really

(01:32:50):
great fabric. Uh, And I can tell you this feels
absolutely great, and I really do love uh the raised lettering. Uh,
that's on here as well. And that's that's that's really
high quality. And so I've seen a lot of stuff,
but yeah, I actually have I've never seen especially a
lot of HBCU gear this type of this type of

(01:33:12):
use in a raised lettering.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 33 (01:33:15):
The material, the T shirt material, the swesh material is amazing.
It's not a guild and T shirt. It's not like
your regular tough T shirt, but it's really nice, very soft,
and even like during the summertime, it just feels good.
Material feels really good and you can actually believe or not.
You can actually wash these in your own washing machine.
You can turn me inside out wash them. They don't

(01:33:37):
have to be dry clean. I've done it several times,
lots of customers do it and it comes out great.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
All right, then, well look, we certainly appreciate it. Again
HBCU Legacy Fashion and go to a shop Blackstart Network
dot com to check it out. And we appreciate the
work you're doing and so keep it up. First of all,
how long have you at the business.

Speaker 7 (01:33:59):
So I started in.

Speaker 33 (01:34:00):
Twenty twenty twenty, so we just celebrated five years.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Wow, five years anniversary, and so things are going well huh, yes,
they're doing good.

Speaker 9 (01:34:09):
We're growing every day.

Speaker 33 (01:34:10):
Like I said, We're in bookstores, campus bookstores, belk online
and now you.

Speaker 22 (01:34:16):
Can also find us on your platform. So we're growing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
All right then, all right, we so appreciate it. Thanks
a lot. Thank you folks. Again, go to shop Blackstar
Network dot com to check that out. In the other
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