High stakes Louisiana election, Blatant voting rights assault exposed, Illegal activity at WH

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Stas Friday, March twenty eight, twenty twenty five, coming up
from roland Mark Unfiltered streaming live of the Black Star
Network crucial election tomorrow in Louisiana. We need every person
who is in Louisiana to vote no on all four
constlucial amendments. Activist Gary Chambers Union would join us to
tell you how Republicans are using a prominent black rapper

(00:45):
to actually get vote to support their agenda. Yeah, you
don't want to miss that conversation, Bishop, where your barber
is focused on mobilizing and organizing our folks around the
issues that matter our people. He'll be joining us and
tell us about a new report repairs of the breach
of the Propople's campaign have actually launched. Virginia Speak of

(01:06):
the House Don Scott was invited to speak at a
high school, yet before he got before he even left
the House, he was told he wasn't invited because he
wasn't properly vetted the Speaker of the House for the
state of Virginia. Yeah, he'll be joining us as well.
Also on today's show. Lots of illegal stuff is happening

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in the White House. That's what a freshman California congresswoman
says she'll be joining us to talk about that as well.
Plus we'll talk to the host of the NAACP Image
Award winning podcast about the death of a Saint Louis
activists that people have always questioned what really went on?

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Speaker 1 (03:09):
We're always telling you you must exercise your power, you
must not sit on the sidelines, and that there always
are elections happening across the country that are happening in
your state, in your county, in your city. Well, in Louisiana,
there's an election tomorrow that deals with four constitutional amendments.

(03:33):
These amendments deal with changing the tax law, establishing specialty courts,
changing the dates of judicial elections, and things along those lines. Now, these,
of course, we're talking about conscial amendments. That means that
they're actually going to be placed in the constitution. Okay,
that means it means that that's the law. It is very,

(03:56):
very hard to actually change that. Well, you got folks
there who are in Louisiana, African Americans who have really
been dropped coming and going around the state really holding
town halls and trying to get our folk to understand
the impact of these elections. In fact, the Power Coalition

(04:16):
dot org they've been working with Gary Chambers Eat to do.
So this is a graphic they put up you can access.
I put this on all my social media outlets, y'all,
so you can go grab it for my Instagram page,
on my Twitter page, fan base, snapchat, TikTok, fixed, Facebook,
I posted on all of them. And so they're laying
they're saying say no to all of the constitutional amendments.

(04:39):
You see at the bottom right here, you got any
problem voting called a sixty six hour vote. You also have,
of course, how you can find your polling place in district.
You go to Power Coalition dot org four slash vote
and so uh and again, so activist Gary Chambers Junior
has really been focused on this. So Gary hit me
up today and he said, he said that, oh, these

(05:02):
Republicans are real scared, and so they have been using
They've been of course using text messages that have been
going to black folks. I saw somebody my postal social media.
They don't even live in Louisiana, and they got a
text message. And so you might say, well, who are
they utilizing? Who are they having pushed stuff out? Which

(05:24):
you believe Rapper fifty now fifty cent just signed a
forty five year lease agreement for his studio buildings in Shreveport, Louisiana.
This is the video Gary sent me that they have
been sending around with a fifty cent backing one of
these concertional amendments. I want you to listen.

Speaker 8 (05:47):
This is Curtis James Jackson. You might know me as
fifty cent. I have a special message for the people Louisiana.
As you may have heard, I'm now proud Louisiana property
and business owner working hard to bring film and television
industry back to Louisiana. I'm working because I have an
opportunity to use my influence and make real change in
the communities. I want to see more jobs and prosperity

(06:10):
in the state of Louisiana. This is why I support
the Amendment too on your ballot this Saturday.

Speaker 9 (06:15):
You should too.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
Don't let anyone confuse you about the Amendment too. It
gives teachers permanent pay raise, a doubles senior citizens tax deduction.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
This is all good stuff.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
Voting in favor for the Amendment two makes common sense,
and this is a bipartisan effort. Every Louisiana State Senate
Democrat voting to get the Amendment too on the ballot.
This one is about the people coming together. This is
Curtis James Jackson. You might know me as fifty cent.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, I have a special message right well again, just
showed up in Louisiana very recently. Let's talk to somebody
who was a lifelong resident of Louisiana activist Gary Chambers Junior. So, Gary,
you sent me there this morning, so you heard fifty
cent there talking about amendment too. This is from the

(07:05):
Power Coalition. They say this amendment would change some of
Louisiana's rules about taxes, government spending, and teachers paid. It
is a grab bag of changes, but at its core
it cuts funding for early, special and K through twelfth education,
as well as roles and infrastructure.

Speaker 10 (07:25):
Magnets explained, thank you again, Roland for having us be
a part of this conversation. You know, I wish fifty
I would have tried something else today other than interfering
in our politics.

Speaker 11 (07:38):
But the reality is it's about what's good for him.

Speaker 12 (07:41):
But the truth of this is, Roland, they are restructuring
the entirety of our tax code to help people like
fifty cent. Out of state business owners are going to
be able to get more money in tax deductions in
order to pay for this. People who are working class folks,
school teachers, our bus drivers, people who are a mechanics,
people who are people that work in restaurants. You're gonna

(08:03):
end up paying more in taxes because they're taxing more
things in sales taxes teachers.

Speaker 11 (08:09):
This is a siphen that they're gonna make permanent. It
is not a raise. Teachers are not.

Speaker 12 (08:14):
Gonna get any additional money in their pay and a
matter of fact, because of the changes in the sales taxes,
their money is gonna get aid up in more taxes
rather than a serious substantive raise for our teachers.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Roland.

Speaker 11 (08:27):
This has gotten so desperate for the governor that he
was at.

Speaker 12 (08:31):
The White House the other day caught on a hot
mic talking to Mike Johnson about this issue. And that's
why they call fifty because at the end of the day,
fifty is a businessman looking to advance himself in his business.
And I don't have an issue with fifty coming a
Streamport and doing business. I don't have an issue with
him buying up property. I don't have an issue with
him attempting to revitalize Shreatport. I do have an issue
with you saying that this is something that's good for

(08:53):
us because you heard it from some white politicians in
our stay. I would also tell you that Democrats in
the state Senate did vote for this, and asks black
folks in the state of Louisiana if they showed up
overwhelmingly for.

Speaker 11 (09:04):
The Democrats that are in the Senate.

Speaker 12 (09:05):
The answer is no, We've had abysmal voter turnout in
this state over the last couple of years. We've never
had in bad Ruge. I looked this up recently. Worldly
in bat and Rouge. In the last twenty years, there's
not been a single legislative race.

Speaker 11 (09:19):
Where fifty percent of the people showed up to vote.

Speaker 12 (09:22):
So it's telling me that a senator supported this is
not telling me that this is what the people of
the state of Louisiana support. Also, right now, thirty seven
percent of turnout in the state of Louisiana is black.
If twelve to fifteen percent of white people agree with
what black voters are saying right now in this state,
we end up defeating the governor and sending a message

(09:42):
to him and the state legislature that you got to
do better than this. The other thing is we don't
need confusion. We're telling people to vote no on all four.
To have fifty come in and say voting yes on two,
that's entering in confusion to a simple message.

Speaker 11 (09:57):
No on all four because they're all bad for the people. Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Did the power coalition to you or any others did
fifty cent and reach out to black activists to talk
to them about any of this.

Speaker 11 (10:13):
I've never had a conversation with fifty.

Speaker 12 (10:16):
I reached out to you, I reached out some other
folks on the national level who I felt may have
a relationship with the brother, because look, you may not know, Okay,
I'm trying to give the brother the benefit of the doubt.
Fifty You may not understand how this will hurt working
class people, how this is going to hurt poor people.
You may not have read the legislation because it's such
a complicated piece of legislation that people sued in order

(10:37):
to have it removed from the ballot because the language
is so long and complicated, because it's confusing.

Speaker 11 (10:43):
The reality is this policy is going to restructure.

Speaker 12 (10:46):
Our tax plan, costs poor people more money, help rich
people keep more of their money, and it's a bad
deal for the working class people of Louisiana. It is
also disappointing when black folks who have acquired a certain
level of wealth talk to wealthy white people to come
then tell black folks what they are to do.

Speaker 11 (11:05):
I think that's a disingenuous position.

Speaker 12 (11:08):
I can appreciate him coming into our state, but oh, boy,
miny your business when it comes to this one.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And so here's a deal. Let's be real clear. Jeff
Landry is maga to his core. And it's not like
this is about black folk.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Roland You know.

Speaker 11 (11:27):
What blows me about this. I wasn't gonna go there,
but I'm gonna go there. Fifty wouldn't say.

Speaker 12 (11:31):
Nothing about the national politics that impacts the entirety.

Speaker 11 (11:35):
Of black people in America.

Speaker 12 (11:36):
Couldn't get you to open your mouth about what black
folks should do in the presidential election. Now we got
the Department of Education being torn down, where black.

Speaker 11 (11:45):
Folks are questioned about about so many.

Speaker 12 (11:48):
Funding mechanisms that take care of black children, special needs children.
You you special needs children and your messaging while they're
dismantling the Department of Education, and you're trusting the people
who are eighty and are betting that price to govern
the state of Louisiana with just and equitable policies. If
you don't want to say nothing about the national politics

(12:08):
where you have national influence, please don't come down here
meddling in our local state issues.

Speaker 11 (12:13):
When you have a platform to be able to influence
black people all over this country.

Speaker 12 (12:16):
But it seems you only want to use that when
it's beneficial to you, and I call it bullshit on that.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
So let's again, let's go through these amendments for folks
who don't understand. First off, Amendment one would allow the
Louisiana legislature to create trial courts of specialized jurisdiction and
provide Supreme Court original jurisdiction to discipline out of state lawyers.
Walk us through that.

Speaker 12 (12:45):
So this basically says that if an out of state
lawyer does something that the courts opposed, that they give
them the ability to create special courts.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Roling.

Speaker 11 (12:52):
You understand the complexities.

Speaker 12 (12:53):
Of what it takes to put something into the constitution.
This gives them broad powers to create new courts. Opposed that,
while specialty courts can be a benefit, we don't want
new broad sweeping powers for them to go in and
create specialty courts that they're going to end up penalizing
lawyers with the Supreme Court of the State of Louisiana
can already deal without the state lawyers.

Speaker 11 (13:12):
We don't need a new court system to do it.
More urocracy.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
All right, We've talked about Amendment too, So let's go
to Amendment three. It would allow the Louisiana legislature to
decide which crimes could lead to a juvenile being tried
as an adult. Additionally, this would allow lawmakers to change
rules over time without needing a constitutional amendment.

Speaker 12 (13:37):
So right now, eighty percent of the kids in juvenile
justice system in Louisiana are black kids. So we know
that these laws are generated to lock up more black kids.

Speaker 11 (13:46):
But here's the reality.

Speaker 12 (13:47):
Dish attorneys in Louisiana are already charging juveniles as adults.
They already last year took kids out of juvenile correctional
facilities and place them in a goal U penitentiary. He
just put a proposal for it to spend thirty six
million dollars on a new juvenile detention center in Rapid's
Parish while we are looking for funding for tutoring programs.

Speaker 11 (14:08):
This is not about helping black children.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is not about.

Speaker 12 (14:11):
Making our community safer. If he was serious about making
our community safer, he'd have took that thirty six million
dollars in invested in community programs to two of these
kids and give them after school programs in some of
these communities where these things are happening, District attorneys already
have the power to charge these juveniles as adults. What
this would do is give the legislature the ability to
throw a bunch more charges.

Speaker 11 (14:32):
In there that they can put our kids in jail for.

Speaker 12 (14:34):
So a kid who stole a five hundred dollars cell
phone could end up in an adult correctional facility. And
the reality is you end up with kids that are
more broken than they are fixed. By that, we end
up with kids that are tainted by the justice system
rather than given.

Speaker 11 (14:51):
The tools that they are needed that they need to
be successful in his life. And the last thing I'll
say on that rolling is.

Speaker 12 (14:56):
You don't get a Gary Chambers if rules like that
existed in Louisiana. Because I was a kid who was
arrested for the first time at twelve, arrested again at sixteen,
and arrested again at twenty one. Never was I arrested
for something that I was actually guilty of. Okay, so
let's be clear, every black kid that gets in contact
with the cops is not necessarily a criminal or wrong.

(15:17):
But the system in this state should not become more punitive.
It should become more prosperous and give young people the
ability to find avenues for prosperity rather than punishment.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, let's go to Amendment four would allow the state
to fill the vacancies for new courts using the earliest
election date allowed by state law, which are often low turnouts.

Speaker 11 (15:41):
They want to do just what they're doing right here.
In this March twenty ninth election, when most people.

Speaker 12 (15:45):
Aren't paying attention, the governor was caught on a hot
mic saying they thought the turnout was going to be
twelve percent. Now they're predicting that the turnout is going
to be around twenty two percent. They know that low
turnout elections allowed them to get judges of their choosing
on the bitch and that does not benefit the global
population of the state to get a equitable and farajuy
this year.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
And again when you talk about uh these low turn elections, look,
they understand what how things helps them uh and and
how it helps them being able to being able to
turn out. In fact, this was this is a Nola

(16:29):
small business owner, Matthew woland Weber. He posted this. This
is his graphic on the give me one second, It's
not coming up we'll figure out. Why give me a second.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
He posted a graphic on this on this election here
this This is how he broke it down. He calls
Amendment one shady specialty courts, Amendment two, tax cuts for
the rich, Amendment three, dismantling juvenile justice, Amendment four tinkering
with judicial elections.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (17:04):
I love it. It is short, to the point, and
accurate to what this is. These policies are all bad
for the state of Louisiana. I really hope that fifty
finds some new relationships in our state so that he
didn't come meddling in and trying to tell black folks.
And let me tell you something, I know he doesn't care.
But there's not a single black person that I've talked
to today that felt anything positive from getting that text

(17:26):
message from fifty. And I would hope that somebody like
him would not allow people to use him as a tool,
because if you are as bad as you say you are,
then you should be coming in influencing and changing things,
rather than getting those people to use you like a
piece of equipment.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
This was that you mentioned the video of the hot mic.
This is it. This is when Maga Governor Jeff Landry
was in Washington, DC, and he's here with House Speaker
Mike Johnson. Folks, listen to this.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Straight one thing. Just spend it turning.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well. We told her to be twelve but everything may
be eighteen percent because it's not straight shoes.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, because it as Saturday, it's rate twenty percent of
Jefferson Okay Johnson, uh speak of the House from Louisiana shreeport.

Speaker 12 (18:36):
That I try to tell folks all the time. You
got folks from the fiftieth rane state in the nation.

Speaker 11 (18:41):
Running the whole damn country. And I've been.

Speaker 12 (18:44):
Screaming to pay attention to the elections in Louisiana because
this little raggedy place that people try to ignore.

Speaker 11 (18:51):
Is punching above his weight.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Every day.

Speaker 12 (18:53):
You got a guy from Cattle Parish, Louisiana standing at
the White House with Jeff Landry, caught on a hot
These same people are are justifying folks who can't even
text correctly, can't even operate a simple process of evaluation
within their government. And these are the people that you

(19:14):
want to trust with the government. The rest of the
country should pay attention to these Deep South states because
people like Jeff Landry are friends.

Speaker 11 (19:21):
With people like Mike Johnson, and Mike Johnson is.

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Dismantling the country before our eyes with Donald Trump and
Elon Musk. And if you ignore these elections, if you're
not paying attention to what's happening here, it'll be knocking
on your doors soon enough.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
And folks, if you want to understand why it's important
when you talk about how they want to change the
law to benefit business owners, you might say, well, okay,
but what's the big deal. How do where does Louisiana stand?
Go to my iPad. These are the rankings, y'all. When
it comes to crime and corrections. Louisiana the fiftieth rank

(19:59):
state in America. The economy the forty ninth rank state
education forty seventh, fiscal stability forty first, healthcare forty six,
infrastructure forty ninth, natural environment forty ninth, opportunity forty fourth.

(20:22):
Those that's not where you want to be there. So
the the highest ranking for Louisiana Gary is fiscal stability
at forty one. You don't want to be in the bottom,
the bottom of the bottom of states in America.

Speaker 12 (20:38):
So with a forty four forty first ranked fiscal stability.
You're gonna go in and now move the money that
we put in stability funds. You're gonna move the money
that we put in ranking day funds.

Speaker 11 (20:48):
You're gonna move. We all already in the bottom ten
of the whole country.

Speaker 12 (20:52):
I tell people all the time, there are people in
this state who love to be first in the worst.
There are people here who are committed to be great at.

Speaker 11 (21:00):
Being the last. And I think that we have to
make a collective decision that you won't allow people with small.

Speaker 12 (21:07):
Thinking to have a big impact, Okay, And the way
that you minimize that is by supporting people and the
elections and the initiatives that are happening in the places
that nobody else is expecting to have an impact on
your life. Trump understands that these people are simple minded,
like Mike Johnson.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Trump understands that they are.

Speaker 12 (21:26):
Then you're focused on one thing, and that is white
supremacy and religious control within this country, and whatever they
do in order to make that happen, they don't care
what it costs you or how uncomfortable it makes your life.
As long as they accomplish that goal, they don't care
how much Trump destroys other aspects of the government if
it helps them accomplish their inbo which is putting more

(21:47):
mediocre white men in positions.

Speaker 11 (21:49):
Of power over you.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Again, Folks, big election tomorrow in Louisiana. Call your friends,
postal the social media, tell your folks to turn out.
Black numbers are huge Louisiana and can be the deciding
factor in that state. And you're right. Listen, if black

(22:12):
folks turn out in those numbers as you laid out,
as you've been laying out in early voting, that could
be the difference in this being defeated, Garrett enforcing the
governor to have to come back to the table and
Franklin negotiate with the people on a real economic plan
for Louisiana.

Speaker 11 (22:32):
That is exactly right.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Rowland.

Speaker 12 (22:33):
I thank you, as always, brother for highlighting the issues
of our people here in this state.

Speaker 11 (22:37):
Please text your people, call your people. If five to
ten percent.

Speaker 12 (22:41):
More black folks show up tomorrow and vote no on
all four constitutional amendments, we get to have a different
conversation with our state legislature in three weeks when they
go in the session.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Gary Chambers, Jinia, we appreciate it, man. Thanks a bunch,
and we hope it's a good night for you and others.
Tomorrow night when the post close, you know, I'll be
reaching out. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Again,
I just want to remind people that in Louisiana, a
pose open at seven a m. Central seven a m. Central.
In Louisiana, they close at eight pm Central. So let

(23:14):
folks know, don't don't don't sit at home. Don't sit
at home, folks, all right, don't sit at home. All right,
I'm gonna go to a break, we come back and
chat with my panel. You're watching Rolling Mark unfilter right
here on the Blackstocks Blackstar Network.

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Speaker 1 (23:56):
You are watching Roland Martin unfiltered here, boy, he always unfiltered,
though I ain't never known him to be filtered. Is
there anhing? Is there another way? To experience Roland Martin
than to be unfiltered. Course he's unfiltered. Would you expect
anything less? Why watch?

Speaker 16 (24:12):
Watch, watch what happens next?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Saw you heard as they're talking about again the power
of voting there in Louisiana. Uh. And this is about
what Gary is doing, what the Power Coalition is doing
is educating and informing people. Uh. And that's what's necessary
joining us right now, Bishop William Barber repairs of the
Bridge Poor People's Campaign. Uh. In, Reverend Barbara, you you heard,

(24:45):
you heard, you heard Gary there talking about again when
we talk to our people, we educate our people. They
were traveling around the state. You have to community with them,
you have to touch them, if to speak to them.
You just can't make the assumption that folks are just
going to turn out just because that's right.

Speaker 17 (25:07):
You can't make the assumption of that. You can't make
the assumption that people know what's really going on. And
that's why it's so important what you're doing with Gary's
doing what we have to do if we're going to
indeed build a movement, and we cannot just believe rolland
what we have heard. You know, Trump and his crowd
contentiously say they run a mandate.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Well that's just not true.

Speaker 17 (25:30):
But they do have a strategy, and that strategy is
to win counties. That's all they worry about. They brag
about winning, having won twenty five hundred counties in this
past election. But you know, tonight, what I want to
do with you Roland, and we've been talking about this
is connect some policy to why we need to have

(25:52):
massive turnout in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight.
But why we can't wait till twenty twenty six to
get ready for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, yeah, that's one of the things that I have
been saying repeatedly that you can't just like I did
a radio interview day with a progressive show in Las Vegas,
and I said, now through the end of the year
should be all about education. Enlightened and formed boom with
twenty six hits. Now you're getting ready for primaries, now

(26:24):
that you get ready for the general election, but you
can't wait to start educating them in January.

Speaker 17 (26:30):
That's right, and one of the places we need to
focus on. You know, the Bible says where your heart is,
where your treasure is, where your treasure is, where your
heart is this buddy, that the House has a negative
impact on everybody and really ought to be a focus
of our massive vote of education, our protests, and our preparation.

(26:52):
Let me let me just share with Fork what you
need to know, and I sent you the link to
the report that we just put out so that people
can understand it. In the House budget that they're talking about.
And by the way, Roland, they want to pass this
budget for ten years. If they pass it as it is,
it will you'll not be able to change it in
essence for ten years to twenty thirty five. Now, what

(27:17):
they want to do is they want to cut two
trim dollars. Now, I don't get bold, Suit mean.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Actually we just lost you there. Actually you broke that
of there. Hold on, I say you broke up that.
You said that, you said they want to cut.

Speaker 17 (27:38):
Go ahead, they want to cut two trillion dollars and
it's impossible to cut that much money from a five
trillion dollar budget without touching Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
You need to understand that.

Speaker 17 (27:53):
They want to cut eight hundred and eighty billion dollars
from medicaid. And if they do that, thirty six million
people will lose or could lose their Medicaid. This is
why we have to win special elections and take the
House at least. Now when you're talking about if that happens,

(28:14):
rolling over six million black people, you're talking about people
who are in nursing homes, people who are disable and
you also are talking about if they cut thirty six
billion dollars from I mean it affects thirty six million people.
You're talking about closing medical facilities, especially in rural communities

(28:37):
and in the South, like in Louisiana and Georgia and
North Carolina and places like that.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
But it goes worse than that. Roland, they want to cut.

Speaker 17 (28:48):
Some billions of dollars from Headstart that could affect six
hundred and fifty thousand poor, low income children, many of which.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Are African Americans.

Speaker 17 (28:57):
And they want to cut rental assists that helps five
million poor and low income households, sixty nine percent of
whom our children and older Americans and people with disability.
And then lastly Roland, they literally want to affect Social
Security and that sixty one point two million people had

(29:21):
Medicare and over sixty eight million people receive Social Security.
This budget will devastate the black community. It will devastate
the poor community. And we need to be as angry
as it is about this budget and pushing against it
as we would be if they were cutting Martinus the
King's holiday or going after the museum, which they very

(29:44):
well may do. This budget is deadly and it's devastated,
and we need to understand what they're attempting to do
at how racist it is in its impact, particularly on
our people.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You know, Indivisible is planning a nationwide march on April fifth.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
And I've had some people, Reverend Barbara, I've had some
people send me, send me social media messages saying, oh no, no,
we're gonna rest on April fifth. Uh. Let them folks
going out there uh and do whatever. You know, we're
gonna rest. And I just keep saying, I'm sorry, this

(30:27):
is not a resting moment. You can't you just can't
let these folks run the table on what they're doing,
because what they are planning to do is absolutely evil.
I keep saying, they want to defund Black.

Speaker 17 (30:42):
America, that's right, and they're doing it in an aggressive way. Well,
you can't rest. We need to be out there and
it's not just this one bunch. I'll be there. We're
supporting and endorsing, but we're gonna have to have a
whole movement. And the reason they're this, what is doing it,
is to make sure people are educated. I think the

(31:04):
theme of it is take your hands off, take your
hands off our medicaid, take your hands off our social security. Roland,
we're dealing with people in this budget. They want to
make sure that there's no way we can raise the
minimum wage to a living wage. The secretary with the
Treasure and the Commerce Secretary when they were approved by

(31:24):
the Senate, both of them said Trump's picks that they
believe that seven twenty five an hour is high enough
for minimum wage, and if you make fifteen thousand dollars
a year, that's enough. You understand what our people need
to understand. This is a race issue. If you raise
the minimum waye to fifteen dollars an hour, forty three

(31:47):
percent of all black people would come out of poverty.
Forty three percent of Black people who are currently in
poverty and low wages would come out if you raise
the minimum waste of fifteen dollars nars. So when they
say we're not gonna raise it. We don't even believe
it should be raised. Again, they're defunding Black America. And

(32:09):
so we've got to get this education out there in
order to get people to understand that why you cannot
stand down, sit down, and surely we need to be
preparing now for every special election we need to be
involved in and the newest coming and roll them.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Let me just say this quickly. I'm going to give
you some numbers.

Speaker 17 (32:29):
I don't like giving them, but what we need to
notice if we're got serious about building power. Trump had
a ground game, one ground game that was sure, and
that was white Evangelical Christians. In this over almost half
of the folk that voted for him came out of
that movement. Forty five percent of his total votes were

(32:53):
white christ right so called evangelical Christians. They're not Christians,
but they actually don't believe in Medicaid and Social Security
and things like that. In addition to that, though rolling yes,
sixty to four percent of all eligible voters cast their
vote in twenty twenty five, but that means thirty six

(33:14):
percent of Americas didn't vote.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I vote to hear this, as.

Speaker 17 (33:20):
For all that was going on, all that we're talking
about now, even in the black community, some over thirty percent,
in some places highs forty percent did not vote. Trump
actually got less votes in twenty twenty he got seventy
four million votes. In twenty twenty four he got seventy

(33:41):
two million votes, which was which was lower, two point
one million lower.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
And this is the count that came out right after
the election.

Speaker 17 (33:49):
Batten got eighty one million votes rolling in twenty twenty.
Harris in twenty twenty five got sixty seven million votes.
Now it suggests some but fourteen million fewer votes and
they didn't go to Trump. They just rested, if you will,
they just sat out. We have to take an account.

(34:10):
Not only can we as much we talk about voter
suppression and what people have done, we have to talk
about the fact that something is wrong if we've got
up with some thirty and forty percent of Black people
who are choosing not to vote, a particularly in a

(34:31):
time in which we live right.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Now, questions Ron Panwell joining me on today's show. Michael Mhotep,
hosts of the African History Network show, Joining us out of Detroit,
Civil rights attorney Matt Manning joining us out of court,
Heelo Christy State was in there. Derek Jackson joining us
out of Georgia represented Derek. What's your question for fellow

(34:52):
Alpha Bishop William Barber?

Speaker 18 (34:54):
Go ahead, Yeah, It's always good to be on with
a a fellow brother, Bishop Barbara.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
So, Bishop, my question is, how do we get the
Black church?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Can you hear me? A, Bishop Barbica? Can you hear Derek,
Bishop Barbica, can you hear Derek? All right, so we
just lost Bishop Barbara. So guys, did me a favorite
call him back so we can finish the conversation with
Bishop Barber. Let's do this here. I'm gonna go They're
gonna start with you. What Gary was talking about. We

(35:25):
keep saying this, when we use our power, when we
maximize our power, we actually win. If black folks in
Georgia had literally voted at seventy to seventy five percent
of our capacity, Trump could have lost.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
He would have lost Roland.

Speaker 18 (35:51):
Our challenge in Georgia, just like Louisiana, is that we
get flooded.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
As you will know because you you.

Speaker 18 (36:01):
Know, you've been here a lot during the last several years,
when Warnock was running and Osoft was running and Kamala
Harris was running through Georgia. All these distractors rolling people
get their information from so many folks, but they get

(36:22):
the wrong information from the folks like fifty cents, and
so that's what ended up happening. And then they stick
and they run with it with those ten to fifteen
sections that they get from TikTok. I mean, take for example,
those constitutional amendments that Gary was talking about. When you
have four of them, they're written very vague, and we

(36:43):
don't do a very good job educating the electorate on
why they should vote either yes or no on these
amendments because it got all this legal language. It may
sound right, but they don't read and the bill in
its entirety. And when you don't read the bill in
this entirety, it has all those poison pills in that

(37:05):
bill that would negatively impact black and brown communities. My
last point is this rolling. When you start talking about
constitutional amendments, it's going to be enshrined in that state's constitution.
And so Republicans are playing a long game. So even
though when those states may flip blue, they may get

(37:26):
a governor that is democratic, they still going to be
confined by those constances.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
We got dere Hold, we got Bishop Barbara back, what's
your question for him?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, so, Bishop Barbara, my question to you is.

Speaker 18 (37:41):
How do we get the Black Church more engaged?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
You know, to do more like the Jamal Bryants.

Speaker 18 (37:47):
And the reason why I'm specifically talking about the Black
Church because that's where the black and brown community is
on a weekly basis, where they can get this information
fifty two weeks out of the year and we can
mobilize and organize through the Black Church, unlike other avenues
where they don't meet on a frequent basis or they
don't get their information at the frequency that they need

(38:10):
to because tomorrow may be too late for Louisiana to
get that word out.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
How do we get the Black Church more engaged?

Speaker 17 (38:20):
Well, you know, one of the things is we have
to build even in the Black Church, we got to
build fusion coalitions. And also what we've got to do
is we working now with ten thousand congregations through repairs
of the breach and paths, and we're doing these reports
and putting them in ways that they can preach it,
they can teach it, they can hand it out. But
let me just say this real honestly, every Black every

(38:45):
the Black church needs to do any dis evaluation, not
just the sermon and not just that people shout and
say amen. Most Black churches do not do an evaluation
of their peace people turning out to the polls and
we've got the we've got to count. If you can't count,

(39:05):
And I say this to a pastor, if you're pastory
and you got ten thousand members, you need to check
and see if eighty percent of them are eligible to vote.
Did did ninety percent of them vote? Because what the
data is telling us is that up with forty percent
of our people aren't voted. Now, I hate to say that,

(39:26):
but it's just the true fact. Non white women when
you look at when you look break the down in
the in these voters, they voted overwhelmingly for say Harris,
black women voted seventy percent, but that means thirty percent
still didn't vote.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Thirty percent.

Speaker 17 (39:44):
And what we what we're in a season now is
where we can't afford to have anybody that's not engaged
because these elections are turning on small percentages.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
You had Harris and Biden, for instance, were.

Speaker 17 (39:59):
Powerful in the union movement, but you had a large
numbers of Union voters that voted for Trump.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
That's that's a fact. That's what we're finding out.

Speaker 17 (40:08):
And so the reality is we have to address this
and if the IF, the if the Black church, there's
a scripture in the Bible that says, if you're gonna
build a tower, you first got to consider uh, the
cost and and one of the things. It has to
be more than Sunday morning, and it's got more to
be than preaching. You have to strategically organize that congregation

(40:31):
in a way that folk are getting the information and
why they should be voting. They know that that black folk,
if every black person in America voted, we don't have
enough by ourselves to put somebody in office, but we've
got enough votes to determine who goes into office. But
you have to start at your church. I don't care
who you are, and you gotta have teams inside of

(40:53):
that church. You got to make sure everybody is ready,
that everybody's educated, and starts saying we want one hundred
percent of our membership to be engaged in participating in
the right to vote. That for us, it's not just
a constitutional right, but the God given right. Because God
gives us the right to choose, God said, gives us

(41:15):
the right to choose. This is our battle in this moment.
And it also means, my brother, that we can't just
get our people. You know, as I said, if tomorrow
and Roland and I talk about this stuff, if tomorrow
Trump was to go after say the Black Museum, yes
people would be emotional and they be mad and should

(41:38):
be mad. But you also got to get upset when
this budget is going not six million Black people off
of Medicaid, six million, And we've got to start helping
our vote change what we get upset about. Because God
should be driving us. That should be driving us to

(41:58):
the polls. It should be pushing us in a way,
as I said to you, if forty three percent of
African Americans would come out of poverty, out of poverty
with why is it that issue of minimum wage being
preached every month at least in the Black church, and

(42:19):
the issue of poverty and the issue of work us
right that way, we must get our people connected to
be something that matter.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Because Roland keeps telling us the role is to.

Speaker 12 (42:37):
Looks like God.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Again, Barbara, he's on the road, is on the road.
His phone went out, Matt again, what he lays out
there is is fundamentally clear. This is not rocket science.
When we check out, we get hurt. And I understand
people who say, man, stuff hasn't had even fast enough.

(43:01):
But I'm telling you right now what these people are doing.
They are targeting everything in Black America. We're looking at
literally losing billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
You're right.

Speaker 19 (43:15):
And it's funny because every time, literally one hundred percent
of the time I talked to my father about political issues,
the first thing he mentioned to me is, son, we
need to get out and vote. And obviously we know
that to be true, but that's exactly what doctor Barbara
was saying there. And you know what I was going
to ask him when I hope I get to ask
him when he comes back on is whether he's seen

(43:35):
any economic studies that extrapolate the effect of raising that
minimum wage. I mean, I'd never heard that data point
that forty three percent of black people would come out
of poverty if the minimum wage was raised. I mean,
that's an extraordinary data point, and it seems like something
that actually dovetails with what Republicans claim they want to do,
which is lessen you know, cost of programs and services

(43:59):
provided to city. So I'm really interested in seeing whether
that economic impact is there because as a preface, we
know that they're making it clear every day they are
not concerned about taking care of black people via their policy.
But raising the minimum wage would actually accomplish both things theoretically,
if the economics bear it out.

Speaker 15 (44:15):
And I'm interested in seeing that because we know that this.

Speaker 19 (44:18):
Country, you know, does not have the respect for workers'
rights that it should, and really the respect for providing
minimum necessities to people, because what we do is we
call people who need those the.

Speaker 15 (44:29):
Dredges of society.

Speaker 19 (44:31):
But if this is your economic platform, which is you know,
contracting the size of the government, contracting the size.

Speaker 15 (44:36):
Of services, it seems like raising the minimum wage.

Speaker 19 (44:40):
Is consistent with that, and I'm interested in seeing how
the economics bear out in that respect.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Well, would they laid out give me a second, I'm
going to pull this up here, because they have laid
those things out before. We've had We've had them on
do do do do, do, do, do do do do.
Let's see here, I'm looking right here, do to do,

(45:12):
trying to sit here and look at uh that very thing.
So so the answer is yes, they have pulled the
data and show that when when you do this, when
you raise, when you create a living wage, the number
of people it would raise out of poverty. But what

(45:34):
it runs up against, and this is what Republicans do
every single time, what they constantly do, Michael, Oh, No,
businesses can't afford it, can't afford it, can't afford it,
can't afford it other than lay people off. So what
they do they use the scare tactics of all we're gonna,
we're gonna, we're gonna lose jobs, lose jobs if you
do this. Uh and because it's all about how do

(45:55):
you keep more money in the pockets of business owners,
not workers? Business owners.

Speaker 20 (46:02):
Yeah, And what I find interesting is that these same
business owners, these same billionaires that claim to be so brilliant,
they don't ever talk about putting together task force that
help local businesses streamline their business, become more efficient, understand
generally accepted the counting principles, learn to buy in bulk,

(46:24):
learn to buy the group so you can lower your costs,
so you can pay your workers more money.

Speaker 15 (46:28):
They don't ever talk about that.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I find that very interesting.

Speaker 20 (46:32):
You know, So I saw Scott Bessett when he was
in front of the confirmation hearing to send the confirmation
hearing and Bernie Sanders asking the question about raising the
federal minimum wage. He thought it was finding seven dollars
and twenty five cents. So you really, so the whole
thing is really laughable when you don't want to pay

(46:53):
a living wage. But at the same time, the small businesses,
you're not saying, you would think they're so brilliant. They
would say, hey, let's help these small businesses right size
become more efficient so they can increase their profits and
pay more money.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, but you got to remember when Trump was the
last time and then they raised when they cut taxes,
he was running around saying, Oh, these companies are gonna
use the money from the tax cuts to reinvest in workers,
give them raises. And the CEOs were literally on record saying, no,
we not. We're doing stock backs, stock we're doing stock
buy backs.

Speaker 20 (47:28):
Not only that, a lot of the CEOs were saying
we don't need the tax cut. They weren't asking for
the tax cut. That's the other thing. Okay, so, but
this is just a power graph. But you're talking about
CEOs of corporations. I'm talking about small small businesses. I'm
talking about small businesses, which employ the majority of Americans.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
But first of all, remember, first of all, again, we
got we gotta set, we gotta set something proper here,
and that is the federal designation for a small business.
It's five hundred employees ease or less. Okay. So see,
so we got to be real careful because see, when
you and I are talking for small business, we're talking

(48:10):
this business, we're talking you know, ten fifteen people. No,
the actual federal categorization is five hundred or less. So
when they're when so when they're on the national level
talking about small business, that's also folks with four hundred employees.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
It's go ahead.

Speaker 20 (48:30):
So I'm talking, I'm talking about I'm talking about local businesses.
You know, ten fifteen employees.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yes, but that's what I'm saying. You got to specify
because it's you ain't talking for and fifty employees. Yeah,
I'm talking, but that's the federal designation. The federal that's
why during COVID, that's why during COVID, a lot of
the restaurant chains couldn't qualify. So what they started, some
of the people who owned restaurants, So what they started doing.

(48:56):
Was they started filing paperwork for individual restaurants, not the group.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, not the group.

Speaker 17 (49:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Let me just add this very quickly.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
If Reverend William Barbara comes back on.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
This, it looks like we've not come back on because
he's in a dead zone.

Speaker 20 (49:13):
Okay, Well, if somebody gets this message to him. The
question I wanted to ask him was he mentioned I
think the percentage was thirty six percent of registered voters
did not vote in the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 15 (49:25):
I think it was something like.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, but also ninety million Americans didn't vote in November.

Speaker 20 (49:29):
Yeah, yeah, eighty nine Yeah, that's what I'm talking about
about eighty nine million. But I wanted to find out
from him in his travels, what are some of the
reasons why African Americans gave for not voting and how
do we work to overcome that.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Well, it's not I can ask. I can answer the question.
Likely he and I talk all the time. It's not
as African Americans. What he lays out most important, he says, first,
candidates don't speak to them too, Cannons don't reach out
to them. The bottom line is they don't touch him.
So that happens is with elections. It's all about likely voters,

(50:03):
and so they keep pouring their money into them as
opposed to who potentially is low hanging fruit, who can
they reach. So what he says is very rarely. Will
you see I mean he was very rarely. Are you
going to hear candidates Democrat and we know Republican. Actually
we use the word poor, use the word use the
word the working poor, use that. So they're never going

(50:26):
to say that. They always use the language of the
middle class, the middle class, middle class, because that's who
they're talking to. So the biggest issue he lays out,
according to their data, that if politicians would speak to
the core issues of those voters, that could move anywhere
from three to five percent in each state, especially in

(50:47):
the South. But the problem is your campaign consultants, largely
white campaign consultants, ain't trying to use the word poor.
Got to go to a break, We come, got to
go to a break, we come back. We're going to
talk to a member of Congress who said it's some
illegalist hell thing going on. And guess what, crooks love crooks.
Guess what the twice impeach criminally convicted fella in chief

(51:09):
Donald thecon Trump did what did he just do? He
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Speaker 20 (52:08):
Trump is often wrong and misleading about a lot of things,
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Speaker 6 (52:11):
Trump falling in line with President Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4 (53:24):
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Speaker 2 (53:37):
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Speaker 4 (53:47):
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Speaker 1 (53:56):
M hm hm hm, so, folks, here's some breaking news.

(54:22):
Moments ago, Donald Trump issued a pardon for a couple
of individuals who had been convicted of various financial crimes.
One of those individuals is Carlos Watson. So what Donald
Trump has done, He's commuted the sentence. Watson was hours
away from having to report to federal prison. Remember, he

(54:45):
was convicted for sitting here, lying about the finances and
guarding a scheme of ozy media. So you look right here.
So he was due to begin serving one hundred and
six I've seen one hundred and sixteen month prison term
in this in this case, and I remember in February,

(55:07):
federal judge ordered Watson and Ozi to pay almost sixty
million dollars in forfeiture and more than thirty six million
in restitution. Now he's commuted the sentence and not sure,
so he's not going to prison. Not sure? Does that
mean he doesn't have to pay back the penalties? Now,
keep in mind he was he was convicted in court

(55:32):
and a judge, first of all, at the centising the
US Attorney then said Carlos Watson orchestrated a year's long,
audacious scheme to defraud investors and lenders to his company
oz Media out of tens of millions of dollars. Said
that washington Is Co consputers between two twenty eighteen twenty
twenty one, defrauded investors, and of course they shut down

(55:55):
in twenty twenty one. In addition to that, he also
parted and Trevor Milton, the founder and former CEO of
electric truck maker Nicola. He was free on APPEO after
being sentenced to four years in prison. So crooks hooking
up crooks, that's what you got going on? Well, congress

(56:17):
Woman Sidney cum Lager Dove she wanted to highlight the
extent of these issues by asking her Capital Hill colleagues
if they know just how serious situation is. Here's a
social media video she put together.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
Hey, am Congresswoman Sidney Kamlonger Dove on the House Judiciary Committee.
We are at our first markup and I'm asking my
colleagues if this is legal. I am here with a
colleague and homie, Becca ballan congresswoman for the Great State
of Vermont.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Are you a lawyer? I am not, but I'm married
to a lawyer, so I'm lawyer adjacent. I too, am
married to a lawyer. So I get where you're coming from.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
So Valdemart Vaught is trying to dismantle the CFPB.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
Is this legal? This is not legal? Definitely not legal.

Speaker 14 (57:08):
The CFPB, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, was set up
by Congress, and only Congress can dismantle it.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
She said it right here. First, thank you.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
I am with Congressman Hank Johnson for.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
You a lawyer.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
I am, so you know IF's legal?

Speaker 13 (57:26):
Right?

Speaker 17 (57:27):
I do?

Speaker 6 (57:27):
All right?

Speaker 7 (57:27):
I have a question for you.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
The Trump administration is not complying with court orders to
release foreign aid funding.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Is this legal? That's illegal?

Speaker 6 (57:41):
And that's all he gots to say. I am here
with my good friend Debora Ross. Are you a lawyer?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Yes, so then you will be able to tell us
if this is legal? Correct?

Speaker 15 (57:50):
Correct?

Speaker 7 (57:51):
All right?

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Here's the question, Attorney Ross.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
Elon Musk has been awarded almost two hundred billion dollars
in federal contracts, and now now he's exercising unchecked authority
over federal agencies and employees.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Is that legal? Well?

Speaker 21 (58:07):
In fact, I let a letter from the Judiciary Committee
asking our new Attorney General to enforce the ethics laws
and the conflict of interest laws and so we need
to get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
But I don't think this is legal. Girlfriend said, it's
a no.

Speaker 15 (58:24):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
I am here with Congresswoman Scanlon also on House Judiciary Committee.
She's a big time Are you a lawyer?

Speaker 22 (58:31):
I am a lawyer, so then you know if it's legal, right, Absolutely,
So my question for you is Trump tried to end
birthright citizenship with an executive order?

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Is this legal?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Hell?

Speaker 6 (58:43):
No, there you had it short and sweet.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Well, Congress'm gonna come, Lauderd jing this right now. My
panel got a kick out of that. I see Michael,
Matt and Derek they enjoyed that video there. So just
I mean, it's the White House to block them here,
occupied by a bunch of crooks.

Speaker 7 (59:07):
Absolutely, it's like Ricky Bobby from Tallavega Knights up in
the White House selling everything and doing everything that's unconstitutional,
unethical and illegal. I put this series together and I
do one every week because there is so much coming
out of the White House that I am sure folks think, well,
since it's the President, he can do it right.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
And we're telling.

Speaker 7 (59:29):
Folks know most of this, if not all of this
stuff is illegal, unethical, and unconstitutional, and we should not
be complying passively with.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
What is coming out from the White House.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
We should be fighting and we should be educating people
about what is not legal.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
And I mean, look, we had reports that even last
time he was there that he was essentially selling partons.
And this man is pimping a White House. It's a
total grift. He's pushing his coin. It's it's people are
the people who buy it. They're getting screwed. He's selling perfume,
he's selling you know, guitars. I mean, he's jacked up

(01:00:09):
prices up Marl Largo. He's going home playing golf every weekend.
I mean, look, he's turned the White House a lawn
into an auto mall for Elon Musk in Tesla. And
they're just and guess what, Republicans and the voter's like,
we are good keep sally. I mean, I remember when
Republicans acted a fool when Bill Clinton had donors sleeping

(01:00:33):
in the Lincoln bedroom. This is taking grifting to a
whole new level.

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
Well, I love the fact that I want to say
he set the bar super low, Donald Trump, but there's
actually no bar anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
I mean, just what happened with Signal.

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Gate, with Pete hegzeth and all of these fire you know,
fist pump emojis. Remember when Obama did the fist pump
and you thought that was an international incident. No, this
Donald Trump, you know, after his first when he was
flushing secrets down the toilet and like you said, getting
money from people who wanted to visit him at mar
A Lago and the Waldorf Astoria. This go round, he's

(01:01:11):
actually selling access to the Easter egg Roll up to
seven hundred thousand dollars if you want a sponsor a
space at the Easter egg Roll. Hawking Tesla's on the lawn.
He's selling miracles for one thousand dollars. There's all kind
of madness that's going on. And similar to the CFPB

(01:01:31):
and trying to shut that down, which is illegal, He's
trying to do the same thing with the Department of Education.
He's trying to do the same thing with the Postal Service.
Those things are enshrined in the Constitution. The only entity
that can start or stop the Department of Education or
the Postal Service is Congress. And now here you have
you know, temper tariff. Trump not only cratering our economy

(01:01:53):
with these crazy tariffs, but also doing all the stuff
that is illegal and forcing us to take him to court.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
And you know this Roland now that the courts have.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
Been ruling in our favor more times than not, now
he's trying to impeach judges.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
Yeah, and dismantle these lower courts. So we need the
Supreme Court to clap back on this book.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Up coming from Donald Trump and remind everybody that the Constitution.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Is not for sale.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Well, yeah, because now they're mad. Now they love when
the judges ruled against Biden. Now they literally want to
defund the courts because they dare to uphold the Constitution
when this thug in chief is in the Oval office.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
I am in Cannon. I have a member of Congress,
my neighbor right down the hall from me, and.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
He has a sign that has pictures of these judges
and he says, their activist judges go after them.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
So they are literally not only trying to impeach judges,
but they're.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
Actually trying to invite folks to enact terror against these
folks and speak Johnson has threatened to try to get
rid of one of the lower district courts, maybe the
Ninth Circuit, because they tend to be the most liberal
because he's upset that these judges are ruling against Donald
Trump and not allowing him to break the law. That

(01:03:15):
is why is this ish legal is so important for
us to share with the American people so they can see,
just like you said, this man is a thug.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
He is up to no good in the neighborhood.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
He's trying to get rid of Social Security and Medicaid
and Medicare while stuffing the pockets of his cronies who
actually paid for him to become president. It is obscene
and if anyone else was doing this, there would be
protests in the streets. Why these Republicans have become complicit
and silent, I don't know, because last night checked and

(01:03:47):
you notice Roland, the stuff that this man is doing
is impacting not just Democrats, but Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Do they don't care each penniless matter.

Speaker 15 (01:03:58):
First, Congresswoman, First, this is hilarious.

Speaker 19 (01:04:02):
So thank you for doing this, and I think it's
important to give it to the American people in a
way that's most easily digestible.

Speaker 15 (01:04:08):
But here's the question I have for you.

Speaker 19 (01:04:09):
What are you hearing behind closed doors from your Republican
colleagues about why none of them are standing in the
way of any of this craziness that we see at all.
I suspect a lot of it is them trying to
save their own skins. But since you're there on the ground.

Speaker 15 (01:04:23):
What are you hearing from your colleagues about why they
will not stand up for right?

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Well, a lot of them are scared, and a lot
of their family members are scared. They don't want to
be primary, they don't want to be threatened by X,
and they're trying to figure out nice ways.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
But you cannot communicate with a bully.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
But they're trying to find nice ways to communicate with
the administration to.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Have them see you know where some of this stuff
is going sideways. I mean, look what happened to JD.
Vance on the signal chat.

Speaker 7 (01:04:52):
He actually had the nerve to say that he questioned
some of the policies coming from Donald Trump, but he
was going to let them go with them because he
was the president, even though he had some questions.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
And what happened to JD. Vans They banished hisself to Greenland.

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
So now he's knocking on people's doors, trying to sit
on their couches and Greenton looking for some stuff to
do because he had to go back to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump wasn't worried about the leak. Donald Trump was
worried about JD Vance not even showing failty to him
in a signal chat. So all these Republicans are running scared,
but we only need three of them to find some
courage to rent.

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
Some balls and stand up to Donald Trump. The other
thing is this yo, look at what happened with at
least to find it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
She was on her way with her glam squad to
go to the UN and then they said, oh no,
because they're scared about what's happening in Florida.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
They're scared about just what happened in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
So they are running scared because they know these policies
are not good for the American people.

Speaker 9 (01:05:49):
Michael Representative KEM lagger Dove.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
This is Michael Mhotep.

Speaker 20 (01:05:54):
So this is my third time watching this video today.
I cracked up each time. I wanted to know what
has been the response from people who saw this latest video,
what has been their response, and also what has been
the response from maybe your constituents with people you've talked
to who did not vote in the twenty twenty four election,
and they're looking at all this chaos taking place.

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
So everyone loves the videos.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
I did not know that they would go viral and
people would respond to them as positively as they have,
and they've said, thank you, thank you for speaking the truth,
telling us what's up.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Keep doing this. We need to know because we're fighting
in the courts, we're.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
Fighting in Congress, and now we have to fight with
the community and bring everyone together in real life and
help people see that this is not D versus R
so much as it is the country versus Donald Trump.
There are a lot of folks who are saying they
either have buyer's remorse because they voted for Trump or
they're really upset.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Because they didn't think he would go this far this fast.
And I'm like, boo, we told.

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
You twenty twenty five, So you know, I'm not wiping
away your tears. You about to get up in this
foxall with us because we got a lot of work
to do there, all right.

Speaker 18 (01:07:06):
Yes, you know, I appreciate the video as well, and
I especially enjoyed the fact that you're highlighting these illegal
and unconstitutional activities because we all know they used to
say that they were the party of law and order.
My question is around are you planning to also highlight

(01:07:27):
some of the things that they're legally doing, such as
when they remove the former President Biden's cap on five
dollars on the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Overture fees?

Speaker 18 (01:07:41):
Are you highlighting that because I anticipate now that the
Senate has removed that five dollar cap, people going to
feel that pain when banks start charging them ten, fifteen,
twenty five dollars over Do you plan on highlighting these
policies that they're doing legally?

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
Well, we're definitely going to talk about all of the
things that he is doing that are not legal.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
And the sad part is there are so many things to.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
Talk about because this man is moving as quickly aspire
in terms of enacting a lot of these things that
are illegal.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
And yes, we are going to be talking about the
things that he is doing that things that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
Are legal, but that are unwholesome, unethical, that are compromising
to our safety. It is I have been talking a
lot about the economy and what he is doing to
creator the economy by trying to.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Privatize all of these agencies.

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
You got this man called big Balls, live squatting, in
our government agency offices trying to rewrite codes and prevent
us from.

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
Accessing our own money.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
You are going to allow banks to run roughshot and
just let predatory lending go back up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
You are, and you're also sort of you know, firing workers.

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
There are millions of workers are now going to be
without collective bargaining rights or other kinds of protections. And
they want to make all of these buildings vacant so
that Elon and Donald and all of his cronies can
buy them up. So it's a wholesale selling of our
American economy and our government. So yes, we are working

(01:09:24):
to kind of share all of these things because we
want to reveal the madness and the grifting that is
taking place.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
All right, Conan, glad to have you on a show,
look forward to having you back. You know, I feel free.
Let us know we want to come and chop it up.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Would love it. And from my alpha husband, I'm just
sending continued greetings.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
All right, certainly appreciate. Derek is also a frat as well,
so thanks, Bud, appreciate it. All right, y'all are going
to break. We'd come back more right here on Roland
bart and unfiltereding the Blackstar Network, y'all. You know, is
always something. And guess what with this racist in the
Oval office is doing now? He's going after the Smithsonian,

(01:10:05):
specifically the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
Did not tell y'all what these white folks were going
to do in my book White Fear? Did I not
tell y'all this stuff was going on? That a total John,

(01:10:29):
A total John. Y'all see the photo on the cover.
It's it's a white man with his arms outstretched on
January sixth, twenty twenty one. Do you know what he's singing?
His photo? All of this is ours. That's why I
picked this photo. If y'all ain't read White Fear, how

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the brownie of Americas making white folks lose? Y'all mind,
y'all need to you will understand product twenty twenty five
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Speaker 25 (01:13:56):
Matter of fact, it's to Roland Martin and Charland what
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But whatever show it's gonna be, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Gonna be good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
M h.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Well, it's one thing can always count on. As for
the twice in peach racist criminally convicted felon in chief
to do all he can to attack black people. So
last night, a chief dumbass issued two executive orders. This
is the first executive order making the District of Columbia

(01:14:51):
safe and beautiful. Now, remember they've already screwed us when
it came to Black Lives Matter plaza. Okay, they've already
they've already screwed us.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
In fact, me just just so you understand, you know,
in terms of what what these what these folks have done,
uh is just I mean, it's just an abomination. What
they've done. Actually, come back to me, I'm gonna scroll
in the second. Well they've done is abomination.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
You know, I was, I was outside. I'm gonna give you,
I'm gonna do this here, give me one second. I'm
going to just so y'all know this is what the
latest is, uh, and how they've just completely chopped up
and uh and and just messed up sixteenth uh, sixteenth Street,

(01:15:38):
which actually leads to the White House. You know, Republicans
forced the District of Columbia to spend you know, almost
a million dollars tearing up the streets because they did
not like Black Lives Matter being on the street. It
was actually it was a monument that was created. And
so as a result, this is I shot these photos yesterday.

(01:16:01):
Give me a second, I'm connecting my iPad so you
can see what it looks like. And again, these so
called fiscal conservatives, let me say it again, so called
fiscal conservatives demanded that Washington d C.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Do this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
This is what it looks like right now. That right there, Uh,
it's gonna take so that it wasn't just painted. They
literally built it. They literally built it, you know, into
the ground. So they sat there and uh, that's it
right there, and you know, just so you understand, you know,
this is this is the road leads to the White House.

(01:16:40):
If I zoom in, you will see that is the
White House right there, and so uh. You know these folks,
these Republicans, they force the district, Uh, threatened to withhold
transportation money from the district if they did not follow
their order. They made them do this. Uh they did

(01:17:03):
not care. They don't care. They didn't ask the people
of Washington, d C. They don't It does not matter
for them. Hey, we control Congress, so therefore we control
your purse strings. So you know what, we gonna make
y'all do whatever or we want y'all to do. I
also shot some video. Give me one second. I want

(01:17:25):
to send it. I want to show that to y'all
as well, because I mean, and it's just it's just
a damn shame how these people are operating.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
And so they want to totally control Washington d C. Uh,
they want to force the mayor of d C, force
a city council to be on bended knee to whatever
they want. This is the video that I shot of
them also working on the street again, tearing it up. So, uh,
that's what's going on uh here in the nation's capital.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
And so here's what Trump did, y'all. So you see
right here, he says, let's see here, blah blah, blah blah.
He wants to talk about how it is to be
clean and well kept. So you see right here, fighting crime.

(01:18:20):
What's going to happen right here, my administration show work
closely with local officials and share information, developed junk priorities,
maximized resources to make the District Columbia safe. And so
he's listing all these departments creating these task force as well.
You see right here, task Force shall coordate to ensure
effective federal participation in the following task directing maximum enforcement

(01:18:43):
a federal immigration law, redirecting available federal, state, and local
law enforcement resources to apprehend and deport illegal aliens, monitor
the District of Columbia Sanctuary city status and compliance. Provide
assistance to facilitate the prompt and complete accreditation of the
DC for RISIC laboratory. Also, in collaboration with his leadership

(01:19:04):
and union, providing MPD with assistants to facilitate the recruitment, retention,
and capabilities of its police officers. And it goes on
and on and on and so you see deploying a
more robust federal law enforcement presence and coordinating with local
law enforcement to facilitate the deployment of a more robust

(01:19:24):
law enforcement. They just repeat shit in I mean, they
don't even read executive orders. They just repeat stuff. Okay,
so you look at all the different parks or whatever.
Then you see here, make the executive in tears, gonna
make the District of Columbia beautiful and so blah blah,
remove graffiti from commonly visited areas, blah blah blah blah blah,

(01:19:46):
general provisions blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Okay, so that's what it relates to. Neglect
relates to DC. Then of course it also was about
the Smithsonian. So here's what they did. They then called
this restoring truth insanity to American history. That's what this

(01:20:13):
is called. Okay, we're restoring truth and sanity to American history.
So they sit here and they write that. Over the
past decade, Americans have witnessed a concerted and widespread effort
to rewrite our nation's history, replacing objective facts with a

(01:20:34):
distorted narrative driven by ideology rather than truth. All the
revisionist movement seeks to undermine the remarkable achievements of the
United States by casting its founding principles and historical milestones
in a negative light. Under the historical revision, our nations

(01:20:55):
on parallel legacy of advancing liberty, individual rights, and human
happiness is reconstructed as inherently racist, sexist, oppressive, or otherwise
irredeemably flawed all Donald Trump. Rather than fostering unity and
a deeper understanding of our shared paths, the widespread effort

(01:21:17):
to rewrite history deep in societal divides and fosters a
sense of national shame disregarding the progress America has made
and the ideals that continued to inspire Americans around millions
around the globe. So what does he do? So watch

(01:21:38):
this here? So he talks about one widely respected as
a once wildly respected as a symbol of American excellence
and the global icon of cultural achievement. The Smithsonian Institution has,
in reaching years come under the influence of a divisive
race centered ideology. This shift has promoted narratives that portray

(01:22:01):
American and Western values white as inherently harmful and oppressive.
For example, the Smithsonian American Art Museum today features the
Shape of Power, Stories of Race and American Sculpture, an
exhibit representing that quote, societies, including the United States, have

(01:22:21):
used race to establish and maintain systems of power privilege,
and this enfranchisement not a lot told, not one. The
exhibit further claims that sculpture has become a powerful tool
in promoting scientific racism and promotes the view that race
is not a biological reality but a social construct, stating

(01:22:44):
race is a human invention. But it is, and then
here we go. The National Museum of African American History
and Culture has proclaimed that quote, hard work, individualism, and
the nuclear family are aspects of white culture. So here
we go with this nonsense. So what do they do,

(01:23:05):
say the Smithsonian. So he's going to put Vice President J. D.
Vance over this whole deal. They want to change the
structure of the Board of Regents. You see right here,
it goes on and on and on on and on
and on on Restoring Independence Hall blah blah blah blah blah.
All and here we go Section four Restoring Truth in

(01:23:28):
American History. The Secretary of the Interior show quote, determine
whether since January first, twenty twenty, public monuments, memorials, statues, markers,
or similar properties within the Department of Interiors jurisdiction have
been removed or changed to perpetuate a false reconstruction of

(01:23:50):
American history, inappropriately, minimize the value of certain historical events
or figures, or include any other improper partisan ideology. Ah,
and here where it comes. Let's bring back the white
power symbols. He wants him to take action to reinstate

(01:24:11):
the preexisting monuments, memorials, statues, markers, or similar properties as
appropriate and consistent with blah blah blah blah blah. Y'all,
all this is about. All this is about is how
do we bring back whiteness, how do we bring back

(01:24:36):
white culture, white dominance. That's all this is, Michael.

Speaker 20 (01:24:41):
It's abundantly clear, absolutely, and this is something we were
warning people about before the election.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
But this goes back.

Speaker 20 (01:24:50):
So first of all, I read the fact sheet on
this executive order that Donald Trump did on Thursday. This
goes back to his first term in office, when Donald
Trump attacked the sixteen nineteen project and said basically it
was anti American, said he didn't know anything about the
year sixteen nineteen. He said he knew about seventeen seventy six.

(01:25:12):
He created the seventeen seventy six project, which created a
a historical version of history. He also attacked critical race theory.
And he was attacking critical race theory.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
He did an executive order in.

Speaker 20 (01:25:26):
September twenty twenty that banned the use of critical race
theory in training for federal employees. This was six months
before Christopher Ruffo started publicly his tweets, you know, really
attacking critical race theory. So and then you see him
talking about in the past five years renaming monuments things

(01:25:47):
to that nature. He's talking about the racial reckoning that
took place after the killing of George Floyd in this country,
that spread all across the country. And we've been talking
about how there's going to be a white backlash to
that whole Black Lives Matter movement, and this is what
we're seeing right now. And he's talking about going after

(01:26:07):
the funding because part of this talks about prohibiting funding
for exhibits or programs that degrade shared American values, divide
Americans by race, or promote ideologies inconsistent with federal law.
And he's talking about the Smithsonian Institute, their exhibits, et cetera,
for the African American Museum. So this is a direct

(01:26:28):
attack a continued attack on African American history, but also
going after the funding that funds these exhibits also, So
this is on top of removing Executive Order eleven two
four six is affirmative action. This is on top of
revoking Executive Vord thirteen ninety eighty five from the Biden administration,
which dealt with equity when it came to the different

(01:26:52):
federal agencies things of this nature. So this is devastating,
but we're going to have to fight this as well.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
There let's go back to June eleven, twenty twenty, and
if they go to my iPad, this is from NPR
Congress heads towards class with Trump over removal of Confederate symbols.
And so here we go. Right here, Okay, the Republican
led Senate Armed Services Committee, let me get rid of this,

(01:27:24):
adopted an amendment that will create a commission charged with
renaming army installations that bear Confederate names and removing their
Confederate symbols. Okay, Now, remember the House had already voted
to purge the capital of Confederate statues, and so here
we go. We got more. And so the reality is

(01:27:46):
they didn't. The Republicans did not want to do it. Okay,
you see right here. Senate Majorit leader Mitch McConnell noted
that the statues in the Capitol come from the fifty states.
He argued, they should decide which ones they say into Washington.
Every state is allowed to statue. They can trade them
out at any time. I think that's the appropriate way
to deal with way to deal with the statue issue.

(01:28:09):
The states with the decision, Well, we already know racist
states like Mississippi loved their Confederate symbols. Okay, so look
at this here. Hol Spinar leader Kevin mccafey said on
Thursday he isn't opposed to renaming military installations. Other Republicans
said they too were open to moving ahead with the
process at the federal level to remove the old Confederate names.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Guess what. Trump was not happy. You see right here.
The White House dug in this week on standing by
the current names of a number of Army bases named
for Confederate commanders, including Robert E. Lee, who commanded the
Confederate Army, Braxton Bragg, and others. Trump wrote on Twitter
on Wednesday that he considered the door closed to rename
the military installations after Defence Secretary of Mark Esper had

(01:28:54):
appeared to open it, and Press Secretary Kaylee mcadanney reiterated,
and administration leaves the name should stay now just the
case I need to remind y'all of what this was like.
Listen to the racist language that was used, because I
just want y'all understand. And oh, by the way, she's

(01:29:15):
now an anchor at Fox News. Listen, trying to get
to play here, So give me one second. See, y'all,
these folks here is real clear who they are, is
real clear what they stand for, is real clear who

(01:29:36):
they actually represent. All right, here we go. Listen to this.

Speaker 27 (01:29:41):
Poor Bragg is known for the heroes within it, that
train there, that deployed from there. And it's an insult
to say to the men and women who left there
the last thing they saw on American soil before going
overseas and in some cases losing their lives, to tell
them that what they left was inherently a racist instant
because of a name that's unacceptable to the president, and

(01:30:04):
rightfully so.

Speaker 6 (01:30:05):
And I would also note, where do you draw the
line here?

Speaker 27 (01:30:08):
I'm told that no longer can you find on HBO
gone with the wind because somehow that is now offensive.
Where do you draw the line, is it should George
Washington and Thomas Jefferson and James Madison be a race
from history? What about FDR and because of internment camps?
Should he be a race from history? Or Lyndon Johnson
who has a history of documented racist statements. And finally,

(01:30:31):
what about people that are alleged by the media to
be segregationists. NBC tells us Joe Biden didn't just compromise
with segregationists, He fought for their causes in schools, experts say.
CNN tells us letters from Joe Biden reveal how he
sought support of segregationists in the fight against busting. Washington
Post tells us that Biden's tough talk on nineteen seventy
schools desegregation plans could get him new scrutiny and there are.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Complaint and see, madness is real simple. They are a
appealing to the white racist in the Republican Party. That's
all this is.

Speaker 19 (01:31:09):
And one of the ways that they do that is
framing everything as black as somehow being ideological. I mean,
we talked about that the last week on the show.
But that's what's so insidious and just malicious about it?
You know, it's a lot of this stuff is just
purely historical fact that is being cast as somehow being

(01:31:30):
ideological because it's black people. And to your point, a
lot of the way you see their rhetoric surrounding this
being sold is this idea of like, you know, why
are we allowing people to co opt America? We need
to take it back by virtue of sanitizing history. Basically,
people are lying about what.

Speaker 15 (01:31:48):
The history is. But we know, number one, the truth
of the history is.

Speaker 19 (01:31:53):
Indispensable contributions by black people just across the board.

Speaker 15 (01:31:57):
Number one.

Speaker 19 (01:31:58):
But number two, if you take ideas out of it
and it's purely historical, I don't know how you make that,
you know, a political issue, or make it an issue
of one group of people versus another, where as it's
just a demonstrable fact. So I say that to say this,
that's exactly what they're appealing to. That's exactly who they're
appealing to. And it's terrifying that in this country there

(01:32:20):
is a contingent, a large contingent of people who will
see something as black and see it as immediately being
ideologically slanted or somehow being you know, it's carrying out
some Marxist ideology or some far liberal ideology or whatever,
when it's.

Speaker 15 (01:32:37):
Fact, historical fact. And the interesting thing about this is
as it.

Speaker 19 (01:32:41):
Relates specifically to the Confederacy, you know, a lot of
their objection, or at least purported objection, is this idea
that people are not promoting American values, they're not adopting
American values, they're not standing strong for America.

Speaker 15 (01:32:57):
And what she stands for. But that's literally what the
Confederacy did not do.

Speaker 19 (01:33:01):
It literally seceded from the United States of America and
fought a war to have its own supremacy. I mean,
that is like per se treason. And it's crazy to
me that in the same breath people who are in
support of renaming these military bases and putting back up
these monuments to Confederate people can not understand the intellectual

(01:33:22):
cognitive dissonance that lies in that kind of statement and
the idea that you've got to be more American by
standing up for American values and promoting American values.

Speaker 15 (01:33:32):
But I should have the right to promote.

Speaker 19 (01:33:34):
The best example of a contingent of people who did
not promote American values, and they'll never answer that hypocrisy
because it isn't about being logically consistent. It's about blackness,
and it's about anti blackness, and it's about making anything
that is tangentially related to black be the enemy. And
we're seeing that, and it's terrifying that people are allowing that.

(01:33:58):
I mean, to this end, I'm a part of a
committee here in the local town that puts on an
annual parade. And I didn't know this, but as of
I don't know, five or ten years ago, there was
like a group of Confederates who would march in this parade.
And I told the people I was involved with, there's
absolutely no way I'll be involved. If they're involved, they're
no longer involved. But just as soon as recently as

(01:34:20):
five years ago, people were still coming out with Confederate
flags and demanding their opportunity to march down the street
with heritage. You only do that if your heritage is
about hate, and if you want to thumb your nose
in the face of people who recognize that it's about Hayden,
who call you on that. I mean, that's what we're
seeing with this administration. And when you hear it from
your neighbors. When you hear from people down the street,

(01:34:42):
it's apporting. When you hear it from the White House,
it's terrifying because they've got the means to enact policies
that put that hate into practice into ways we've seen.

Speaker 15 (01:34:51):
It happen over the course of American history.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
So here's what they're doing there, go to my iPad.
So he's a perfect example. So when the grossly unqualified
Fox News anchor Peter Hegseth became Secretary of Defense, he
began to do the reversal of the army basis, and
so they changed Fort Benning. They changed that. What they
also did was change uh to Fort Liberty. But here's

(01:35:18):
a deal. This is how shameful they are. So Fort
Bragg was named after a Confederate general. Okay, that's what
it used to be named after, Braxton Bragg, But then
he got cute by renaming it after Private first Class
Rolling Brag, a World War Two veteran award at the

(01:35:38):
Silver Star in Purple Heart. Then he did the same
thing for another particular base as well. So what was
what Doney is using same name? These people are joked,
but they but what they're appealing to is whiteness. We're
tapping into the buttons white people who go, how dare
you change our history? They want the Confederate monuments to remain.

(01:36:02):
This is about appeasing whiteness. We getna call this thing
what it is is playing up to them, it's embracing them.
This is about this is about white culture, white dominance
over history, white dominance over everything.

Speaker 18 (01:36:20):
Yeah, Roland, you're exactly right, and I definitely agree what
has been mentioned. But I just want to add a
couple of points. Right, they're not just doing this at
the federal level, they're also doing this at the state level.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Right.

Speaker 18 (01:36:33):
Their whole goal in whitewashing at the federal and at
the state level, this here, at this foundation, is to
make sure they sanitize everything of the past, uplift their culture.
And then so fifty years from now, Roland, you wouldn't
even think that we contribute anything to the United States.

(01:36:55):
You wouldn't think that Frederick Douglass lived or Doctor King live.
And so we're fighting at the state level here in
Georgia some several egregious bills. So we're getting this from
the federal level and at the state level. But in

(01:37:17):
The bottom line here is is that it's up to
us Roland and everything that you have mentioned tonight that
made sure that we preserve our culture, that we preserve
our history. And that's the reason why black media platforms
such as yours is to make sure that we get

(01:37:37):
this information out. We mobilize and organize in the manner
to realize that it may be Smithsonian today, but tomorrow
it may be Doctor King's statue. They may want to
remove all the Doctor King street names across the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I think there's like one.

Speaker 18 (01:37:57):
Hundred and thirteen Doctor King streets. And so this fight,
we have to have their endurance. We have to have
their stamina to fight them at the federal level, in
at the state level, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
So we want to talk about how they play the game.
So check this out. My next guest, y'all, is the
Speaker of the House of Virginia. His name is Don Scott.
So a few weeks ago, Don Scott was invited to
speak at a school in Virginia. So here the Aret
in Virginia. So school invites invites him to speak, and

(01:38:33):
so you know, all good, he agrees to do it,
and all of a sudden, Don is on his way
to speak at the school. Before he leaves the building,
guess what happens. He gets a phone call. And when
he gets that phone call, all of a sudden, they say, oh,

(01:38:54):
I'm sorry forgive us. You can't come speak at our
high school. But here's Don Scott, the first black Speaker
of the House in Virginia history. He's now confused. He's
now trying to understand why is it that I can't

(01:39:16):
speak at first Colonial High School in Virginia Beach. So
they then go, well, hm, you weren't properly vetted. They

(01:39:37):
also said, now this is the one that I really
really love, really really love. They said that the parents
at the school were unaware of his planned appearance. Okay,
this is where I'm confused. This is just me and

(01:39:57):
matter of fact, before I go to down, I'm gonna
ask Derek, Matt and Michael have the three of you
ever been invited to speak at elementary school, of middle
school or high school?

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Yes, yes, yes you have. Okay, so do you recall
do you recall do you recall ever where somebody said hey,
before you can come, we have to we've got to
let the parents know first that you're coming. No, no, no, yeah,

(01:40:38):
I don't. I don't. I don't recall that either. I
don't recall that either. So I don't. I don't quite understand.
I don't quite understand what this whole deal here is,
why it's such a big deal. So again, this is
where I'm confused, y'all all. No, I know, you don't
have to sit here and get permission. Oh, let us

(01:41:01):
let them know the parents, the black guys coming to speak.
I've spoken at numerous elementary schools, junior, highest and high
school and it wasn't a while to let me notify
somebody and so, but that's literally literally what happened to
Don Scott. They literally said to Don, uh, yeah, they've

(01:41:22):
been vetted, so we are. We're gonna have Don in
the second. We're gonna have them on the show to
talk about this nonsense. Y'all. This is the Speaker of
the House of Virginia. And they literally said, it's go ahead, there,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:41:41):
No, it's appalling and it's incredulous at the same time.
I mean, the nine years I have been elected thus far,
and the number of schools from elementary to middle to
high school speaking not just at certain you know, events

(01:42:01):
like Memorial Day or Veterans Day.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
But even at PEP PEP b rallies, and no.

Speaker 18 (01:42:10):
Educator, no principal, no administrator, told me that they had
to get the clarence from parents before I had the
opportunity to speak before their children.

Speaker 28 (01:42:21):
Never I mean, yeah, that's what, just that's just what's
crazy to be there. It's just insane that what And
so really, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
What were we just talking about, Matt. We were just saying,
this is about whiteness, this is about Oh no, we
have to notify the white parents that the black man
is on his way.

Speaker 17 (01:42:52):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:42:53):
The shadiest part of this too, His partner was going
to speak.

Speaker 19 (01:42:57):
You look at my law firm, Webcas in the Manning, right,
So if one of my partners web was going somewhere
to speak and I was coming to join them, and
they knew the law firm was Webcase and the Manning,
presumably they wouldn't need to vet the Manning because they
know I'm demanding in the name of.

Speaker 15 (01:43:09):
That law firm. Now, obviously he's the Speaker of the House.

Speaker 19 (01:43:12):
Of Virginia, but if it's his partner and his partner
is allowed to be there and his partner has been vetted.

Speaker 15 (01:43:20):
You cannot tell me that they had an issue with vetting.

Speaker 19 (01:43:23):
First off, I mean, how do you have an issue
vetting one of the most public figures, you know, political
figures in the state. But how do you have a
problem vetting a partner to the person who's there is
law partner?

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
I mean that to me.

Speaker 15 (01:43:35):
Sounds like complete hogwash.

Speaker 19 (01:43:38):
And I read that letter from the superintendent, which is
complete BS because it's insane. You can't tell me that
they didn't know exactly who he was and somebody there
just didn't want him to come speak and they came
up with a BS reason that he couldn't speak.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
To me, It's insane. It shows you, It shows you
how crazy and these people are. Michael. Uh. And it's
just it's unbelievable. And so go and make your comment.
I can't wait to hear don tell his story.

Speaker 20 (01:44:09):
Well, the question I was going to ask is exactly
what is the vetting process and how many people do
you put through the vetting process?

Speaker 15 (01:44:17):
And how many of them are black?

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Okay?

Speaker 20 (01:44:19):
And how many of them do you have to get
the permission from the parents for this person to speak
at the school?

Speaker 17 (01:44:25):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (01:44:26):
This is This is not something I've heard of before.
So I just want to know how many other people
have you done this too? How many of them were white?
When you get where you got the permission from the
parents for this white for this white person to speak
to the children.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Absolutely, all right, folks, Can y'all? Can y'all hear Don?
Y'all he's shatisfying? Can y'all hear Don? Can y'all hear Don?
We're good? God, we got let's go, Don, there we go, Virginia,
speak of the house. Don Scott, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Frat right there?

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Yep? You find Don? That shatisfying?

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Doc? You hear me? I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
All right, So we were just talking about this here,
So I'm confused. You get invited to speed Uh so
who was it? Just you or somebody else?

Speaker 9 (01:45:14):
It was my law partner, Jeffrey Bright Bright and Benny
os And and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
So you Jeffrey Bright. I take Jeffers brighter than you.

Speaker 9 (01:45:24):
Jeffery is a lot brighter than I am. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
So you got a call say you were properly vetted.
Was Jeffrey vetted?

Speaker 9 (01:45:34):
That's a good question. I would be surprised he he
is indicated to me if he was vetted. He has
no idea what the vetting was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Was Jeffrey allowed to speak?

Speaker 9 (01:45:43):
Jeffrey did speak that day.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Who hold on, hold on, hold on. Then I'm real confused.
So you and your law partner got invited.

Speaker 16 (01:45:51):
You're black my law Nope, Nope, nope, my law partner was.
I invited about two weeks ago. He asked me could
I make it because he wanted to bring up bring
me yet along, and I said, my calendar is jacked up,
not sure when I can make it.

Speaker 9 (01:46:04):
Then a few days before the event, my calendar of freedom.

Speaker 16 (01:46:07):
I can make it at noon that day, and then
he allowed me. Then I told him I would be
coming in. He called, I guess the student I think
who had originally invited him. That person contacted teacher. Jeffrey
spoke to the teacher. They got excited. It was originally
supposed to be a small room or class, I guess.
Because I was coming, they decided to move it to

(01:46:29):
the auditorium or to a larger space.

Speaker 9 (01:46:31):
And then the word got out, I guess within twenty
four hours.

Speaker 16 (01:46:36):
And so as I'm on my way driving to the
school at around eleven am, my partner calls me and says,
I got good news and bad news.

Speaker 9 (01:46:43):
The good news is you don't have to drive over
here to the Virginia Beach.

Speaker 16 (01:46:46):
The bad news is that they are barring you from
the school property because you haven't been properly vetted and
parents hadn't been given twenty four hours notification.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
That's what happened.

Speaker 9 (01:46:56):
Okay, that's what they are happened.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
So so what the district tell you? So does the
district have a policy that any speaker or anybody who's
invited that they have to tell parents who's coming on
the campus.

Speaker 9 (01:47:18):
No, that's not the case.

Speaker 16 (01:47:20):
They actually did send me a policy, and the policy
basically says that the principal, whoever is invited as a
speaker of the principle, has to have notification.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
That was it.

Speaker 16 (01:47:29):
Nothing about parent notification or any of that other stuff.
And so at the end of the day, it just
you know, I know what it is.

Speaker 15 (01:47:37):
You know what it is.

Speaker 16 (01:47:38):
I'm the highest ranking Democrat in the state, in the
state elected official other than the federal officials. I'm the
Speaker of the House here, first black speaker in the
four hundred and five year history of Virginia. And I
think they would never have done this to the governor
Lieutenant governor ag In fact, I spoke to some of
my colleagues from the area who have never been They
didn't even know there was a bedding or anything. They've

(01:47:59):
come on to the campus without being without any notice
at the last minute, being called in for an hour
or two ahead of time to come by and.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Speak to some kids.

Speaker 16 (01:48:08):
So there are several members. I had some Republican colleagues
from the area who reached out. One of them who's
a former delegate, her name is Karen Green. How she
emailed me and said, this is crazy. I can't believe
they did that to you. She's brighter in me as well.
She's a Caucasian lady and a Republican and thought that
that was ridiculous and disrespectful, and she reached out to
me and emailed me. So I think, you know, someone

(01:48:29):
there in their administration or someone on that campus decided
that they were going to teach me a lesson and
showed me that they could put me back in my place,
and they expected.

Speaker 9 (01:48:39):
That it would go away quietly.

Speaker 16 (01:48:40):
And I think they've been surprised by they've been surprised
by the surprise that I'm not built like that.

Speaker 9 (01:48:46):
We don't lay down, and we're going to keep.

Speaker 16 (01:48:49):
Fighting, and we always there are people who are voiceless
who will never be in a position to speak up
with someone does something to them that we know that
it's not only offensive to me personally and my family,
but more important and offensive not only to the black community,
but to all Virginians because you're disrespecting the office, and
you're disrespecting the work that we've all done to get here,

(01:49:10):
and then you disrespect the kids by not letting them here.
I was coming in to talk about my legal practice,
to talk about what it takes to become an attorney,
to be an attorney and practice in both criminal and
civil court, and my law partner he does mainly civil work,
and so we were coming in just to talk about that.
He's an adjunct professor at William and Mary as well,

(01:49:30):
and so we were coming in to have fun. In fact,
he dragged me, kicking and screaming. I didn't even want
to come. So this is how God works. He puts
you in these positions where I was really trying not
to go, and he dragged me kicking and screaming, and
then now all of a sudden, I get into this mess.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
So that's what we are now, absolutely crazy. So yeah,
I'm quite sure they are not a fan of all
this attention. They've not gotten.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
No, they are not.

Speaker 16 (01:49:55):
And I've heard from the superintendent of schools and he's apologized.
Mail apologized and called me and invited me to come
and speak at some point in the future. I told
him I definitely would come because I don't believe in
You know, last night I watched Salem and watch them
go back and cross that bridge. So I think, you know,

(01:50:15):
we don't run from these opportunities to be in front
of those people who may not like us. And so
I definitely but not only about this. It's not about
the adults. It's also about making sure that these children
know that people can't bully them and want them off,
and they'll they'll get to see somebody who they may
not see often and that they the adults probably.

Speaker 9 (01:50:34):
Don't want that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
I think you gotta be like d Nice in Club Quarantine.
You gotta you gotta bring some special guests.

Speaker 16 (01:50:43):
Oh, it sounds like Roland Martin might be coming to
Virginia Beach Baby saying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
I'm just saying, I think you gotta I think you
gotta roll in with some special guests.

Speaker 9 (01:50:52):
Well, you know, one of the things that's amazing to
me is what's happening.

Speaker 16 (01:50:55):
So many folks in my community have reached out, so
many people across Hampton roads of each other, across the state,
across the country in fact. And there have been people
who are grateful that I did not allow this just
to go buy unanswered. And there have been teachers from
Virginia Beach public schools that reached out to me, both
black and white, that have said that this was wrong

(01:51:17):
and that they hope Virginia Beach will get us back
together because someone over there at that school. I think
it's at the school level, because the superintendent had no idea.
I think it's somebody in the school, the principal on down,
someone like that. They probably need some corrective action to
be taken, and some folks need to get some counseling
and training. This is not this is not this is

(01:51:38):
not DAYI I'm the speaker of the House of the
coming withal of Virginia.

Speaker 9 (01:51:42):
I think I've been veted appropriately.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
All Well, Fred, let us know what happens, and uh yeah,
I'll see if my schedule is busy that day.

Speaker 16 (01:51:53):
All right, take care of my brother. I know I
love the shirt. I got that one at home in
the collection. Appreciate you know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
I had to go well, hold up, I should have
did the interview like this here.

Speaker 9 (01:52:03):
Oh hey, you didn't went all the way back home?

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
All right, all right, giggle see I should I should
have went agetown.

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:52:10):
We just finished the livestock the radio show.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Of course, the lordest rodeo in the world in Houston.
All right, I appreciate it. Fred, thanks a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Lot, all right, take care of my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
All right, y'all. I gotta tell y'all here before we
go to our final story. First of all, I need
you to roll where's our money? Go ahead and roll
where's our money? About? I'm about to I'm about I'm
about to give y'all some game to understand how black
media gets screwed. Roll at you been frozen out.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Facing an extinction level of bit.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
We don't fight this fight right now, You're not going
to have black on all right, y'all. So yesterday I
told y'all about how Fox News, these blue chip advertisers
are just showing up on Fox News left and right.

(01:53:14):
And so, and I've explained to y'all what happens to
black on meeting how we get played. So I got
an email today. Now I'm not gonna name the car company. Okay,
it's not General Motors. I'm not gonna name the car company,
uh because it's from the from from the PR side.
So let me tell you all. So they invited to

(01:53:35):
fly me down south to an event that's a three
day event. Okay, the first thing would be an interview
with this entertainer they're sponsoring this, uh, this event, this
entertainer who I personally know, who I can call on
my cell phone, so I don't need them to schedule

(01:53:55):
me an interview. So so checks out, y'all. So they
they invite me to this thing. And so what they
want me to do is test drive a vehicle and
cover this event. Okay. Now this is the third time

(01:54:15):
this car company has invited me to something. So the
first time it was in Atlanta, and I went down
and I made clear that look, y'all need to be
talking to my salespeople about doing some stuff, and eight
test drove cars. I didn't post anything. I'm like, what

(01:54:39):
a check. So then they had another event they were
sponsoring as a golf tournament, so prominent sportsperson. So I
go down there. I actually play in the tournament. That's
really why I went. I went to play playing the tournament,
and also did some interviews and stuff like that. So
I had to send the brother an email today saying, bro,
I'm not coming. I'm not coming. In fact, I'm gonna

(01:55:03):
read the email because I just want you to understand
that I don't run, I don't hide. I let folk
know exactly how I feel because they need to be
aware that I don't play games in terms of playing
black media small and so I sent the email back

(01:55:28):
and I said to the individual, I said, I appreciate
the invite, but I have to decline. This would be
the third such invite from said car company, and there
have been zero advertising dollars that said car company has
spent with my show or network. The problem is I'm

(01:55:49):
the one providing value and access to my audience one
point seventy seven million YouTube subscribers and thirty million views
a month plus five million total social media file and
all I'm getting is a trip to said city, me
spending three days. There is a very long commitment my

(01:56:10):
time is just as valuable. Now, I understand that your
job is to drive earn media and PR, but mine
is to also stay in business. The position that I
have taken with other brands, especially the streaming services, is
that if my audience is valuable enough to present a product,

(01:56:34):
then it's also valuable enough to advertise to. If your
media buyers want to do an ad by associated with this,
I am more than happy to discuss that. But I
simply cannot provide free media exposure to my audience in
exchange for a three day trip. Now, let me explain

(01:56:56):
to y'all what these companies do. Explain something to y'all.
And it's been a long time. See what they do
is they offer a free trip. Yo, we got a junket.
You can cover this event in New York. You can
cover this junket in LA. And so the black media people,
oh shit, this is great, Yo. We can interview celebrities.

(01:57:17):
I got tripped to LA and the junkers of the
Four Seasons, So they got to be a per dim.
I can stay at the Four Seasons for one night
and all man, and so what do they want us
to do? Do four or five interviews? Come back with
photos and videos and all this sort of stuff and
do all this coverage. We've done it. I've worked at
three black newspapers. We've been there, done that, Okay, And
so they sit here all bed. So it's all this

(01:57:39):
sort of stuff. I know some magazines, major magazine, same thing.
They will sit here and say, yo, so they'll offer
a trip Aruba, Jamaica. And so what happens is the
editors of the black magazines will sit here and they'll
sit here and take it, and they'll go somewhere. They
might spend three, four five days there taking care of them.
They come back, they do a four paced spread. Okay,

(01:58:03):
First of all, you just handed them more than one
hundred thousand dollars worth of value and all you got
was a trip. And I literally know some black people
who that's their lifestyle. They take all these free trips
and all these little free things and they run the
stuff and they ain't paying for no ads, y'all. This

(01:58:24):
is what they do to us. I keep saying that
a lot of black on media people accept a crumb
and they treat it like it's a meal. Here's the
deal I can pay if you do the math, if
I pulled up the cost of a ticket to fly

(01:58:45):
to this city for three days, and I already know
to entertain us, so I can call him to get tickets.
And then if I pull up the price of the hotel,
then the car rental, I guarantee you that ain't even
coming up to two thousand dollars. And if I was

(01:59:06):
gonna charge them to run ads here, I'm gonna charge
them at least twenty five grand. So why would I
take a free trip. This is what they do. They
all y'all watching and listening they want And this is
not just car companies. This is all the movie companies.

(01:59:29):
This is the streaming companies, all of them, Hulu, Prime Video, Rup,
all the movie I told y'all, why don't let these
people come on my show? Because if you value my
audience enough to promote your product, value us enough to

(01:59:51):
cut an advertising check, because you damn sure run ads
on other places. If we don't operate this way, Matt,
you're an attorney, cats can't come to you thinking they're
gonna get free ass legal work. Want your expertise, but
want to give it for free. I need people. This
is where we as black folks have to say I'm good.

(02:00:14):
I don't need the trip because if you can't come
a check for advertising, you can't get me. Not for
three days.

Speaker 15 (02:00:28):
Matt your thoughts, I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 19 (02:00:32):
I routinely tell people don't go to HGB and think Charles,
but find to give you them groceries for free.

Speaker 15 (02:00:37):
So this legal work is not free.

Speaker 19 (02:00:38):
And I think they do need to cut a check
to you, because, look, you're an established brand, you're the
voice of Black America. I mean, the idea that you
get some benefit out of helping them by going on
a three day trip is an absurd idea. And I think, look,
you know, people of all colors are going to try
to get some free to of corner. But in order
for us to really have the best channels for dissemination

(02:00:59):
of information, they have to invest into those channels. So
you know, anybody trying to get your hard work without
investing in you doesn't deserve it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
The thing here, Michael, this is very simple. I'm not
saying you're paying for the content. What I'm saying is
when they go on the Today Show about a new
movie coming out, Comcast is running ads on the movie.
So it's not a quid pro quo. Oh, you gotta

(02:01:27):
do this because they gonna buy the ads on NBC anyway,
so today's show can just book them. But what they
want to do to us is never buy ads, Never
buy magazine or newspaper ads or digital ads or radio ads,
but then want to free, want us to cover all
the stuff for free. Oh, come to the red carpet,

(02:01:50):
cover the junket, do all that sort of stuff. I'm sorry,
you got bills to pay.

Speaker 20 (02:01:56):
Absolutely, And you know I worked for three media stations,
three radio stations in my fifteen year media career, one
in sales to as a radio show host, and it's
always a challenge in trying to get corporations to buy
radio ads on black owned media or black.

Speaker 11 (02:02:19):
Targeted media, either one.

Speaker 20 (02:02:22):
And I can tell you specifically when it came to
political ads in the twenty sixteen campaign, when I was
on nine ten AMWFDF here in Detroit, the radio station
owner had to tell all the political candidates, you cannot
come on this radio station and speak to our listeners
unless you buy an ad campaign, unless you buy radio ads,

(02:02:44):
because just like you're saying, what they want to do
is they want to get to your viewers. Use your platform,
but don't want to spend money because they don't value
us like this. And this is how African American owned
media especially gets locked out and cannot grow. You call
hell because of the money that the Kamalin Harris campaign.

Speaker 15 (02:03:07):
Bought spent buying ads on your network.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Well, what the fuck do you think of network? Does see?

Speaker 20 (02:03:14):
And now there was three hundred and forty million dollars
I think it was the correct number, three hundred forty
million dollars spent on campaign ad campaign.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. Her
campaign spent six hundred million. Six The total the total
expenditure in political campaign money last year was almost ten billion.

Speaker 20 (02:03:36):
Okay, right, okay, So so people get mad because you
got I think it's three hundred fifty.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Three hundred fifty million, three and fifty million for advertisement,
which no, no I got, I said, no, I said, no,
I'll try three and fifty thousand, three U fifty thousand
we got. They spent six hundred million exactly.

Speaker 20 (02:03:56):
Now they spend with white on media, nobody had that's
a goddamn problem.

Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
Nobody has a problem with that.

Speaker 15 (02:04:03):
But they spend money with black on me.

Speaker 20 (02:04:04):
That now all of a sudden, there's a problem and
somebody's filling money somebody doesn't deserve it.

Speaker 9 (02:04:09):
Things like this.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
That's a self hatred right there. Yeah, but that's that's all.
That's also called, Uh, you don't own ship and you
broke Derek. I'm gonna go Derek real quick. It's real
simple black business. It's the same thing. And I'm real clear.
I tell black people stop walking to a black business
saying how much this costs. You don't say that shit
at Walmart. You donna say that target. If the shiit

(02:04:33):
say twelve undy and nine, it's twelve nunda and nine.
That's what it costs. We cannot, we cannot always be
operating with the hookup. And but we also and it's
the deal when we stop having a hookup mentality. Oh
they're gonna hook me up with a free trip. You
don't even realize they getting you cheat, you a cheap date,

(02:04:57):
You a cheap date. They can just give you a trip,
two nights in a hotel and you good. Nah, roll
a lot more expensive. Y'all got to buy some ads there.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Go ahead.

Speaker 18 (02:05:09):
Yeah, No, I appreciate the fact rolling that you did
not let them marginalize your value because I guarantee you,
and without even knowing this automobile company, that they did
not blink if the Super Bowl said you have to

(02:05:33):
spend eight million dollars for a thirty second ad. I
bet you they didn't blink to say eight million dollars
for a thirty second ad was too much. And so
I appreciate the fact that you did not let them
marginalize your value. Because black media plays a cruci show
and critical role in our community. That's the only way

(02:05:57):
our voice can be heard, that's the only way we
can control the narrative. And we knew and we know
this to be true because we watch it during Black
b e T and so we need to make sure
that we keep black media around.

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Yeap zimble is that SO can't play us small and
so bomb line. I'd rather not waste my time with
you again. If you, if you, if you, if you
save my audience is good enough to come discuss your project?
Is good enough to sell your project? Going to a
quick break, we come back. We're going to talk about UH,

(02:06:32):
this award winning podcast that studied the murder of Yes,
the death some say the murder a prominent Saint Louis activists.
You're watching roller Mark Unfilio. I'm black Tot Network.

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Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
I'm Russell L.

Speaker 19 (02:07:07):
Honoree Lieutenant Gerald the United States Sorrow Retired and you
watching Rulad Martin.

Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
I'm felt.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
Seven years ago, twenty four year old activists Danie Jones
was found dead hanging from a tree. This took place.
I thought it was initially ruled the suicide. He his mother,
Melissa McKinney's, and activists in Ferguson, Missouri, maintained her son
was actually the victim of a lynching. Tragically, she was correct.
Her son was indeed murdered. The first season of the
Investigated podcast series, after the Uprising, documents the ever shocking

(02:07:43):
twist and turn into Jones case. Check out this trailer.

Speaker 11 (02:07:49):
See everybody else wants to make it seem like it's
one thing.

Speaker 6 (02:07:53):
My main thing is who the hell killed my son.

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
Well Ferguson, Missouri activists found her son hanging from a tree,
and police are ruling it a suicide, but the mother
believes it was a lynching.

Speaker 14 (02:08:13):
Now she is calling for an investigation after she says
police failed.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
To do their job.

Speaker 6 (02:08:17):
He was not suicidal.

Speaker 20 (02:08:20):
Danye wasn't that type of person.

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
I didn't expect to never see him.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
Yet.

Speaker 22 (02:08:24):
When we have suicide, there is a certain amount of investigations,
but it is not much more than this.

Speaker 29 (02:08:31):
It looks as though the possibility that Danie was murdered
was never taken seriously by Saint Louis County officials.

Speaker 24 (02:08:38):
I don't care if it.

Speaker 6 (02:08:38):
Was the police.

Speaker 24 (02:08:39):
I don't care if it was President Obama.

Speaker 6 (02:08:41):
I don't care. I need to find out.

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
I don't kill my son, all right, folks. In season two,
Ray Nobles Hillski and Maria Chappelle and Nadal from The
Image War nominated a true crime podcast, may have solved
twenty sixteen murder of rapper and Ferguson activist Darren seals.
They both joined us, so explain to us exactly what

(02:09:06):
have y'all discovered? Walk us through it.

Speaker 24 (02:09:11):
Boy, that's a that's a big one with season one.

Speaker 29 (02:09:14):
First of all, thank you for all the coverage you
gave both to Darren Seal's murder in twenty sixteen and
then the Donie Jones case in twenty eighteen. You did
more than anybody else in video journalism. But we picked
up that ball and we ran with it. We worked
with the family of Donie Jones, Melissa mckinn is, an
activist for over two years to look at the death

(02:09:38):
of Dnie, and one.

Speaker 24 (02:09:39):
Thing we discovered was that she had always felt there
was a rush to.

Speaker 29 (02:09:43):
Judgment, that there was a possibly racist or corrupt police
detective who had decided right off the bat that it
was suicide and not anything else. And as we looked
at that, we discovered that before he was a detective,
Timothy Anderer, the lead on that case, had in fact
been involved in an incident of kicking and macon and

(02:10:05):
then bragging about it on bodycam of a black protester
who was later elected to the House of Representatives in
Saint in Missouri. And we also found out that he
had learned that there were two additional males DNA on
the bet sheet used in Dannie's hanging that weren't Dnye's
and rather than test that sheet, he chose not to.

(02:10:28):
And when we were following the mother as she was
trying to get that sheet back after it had been
made clear that she wanted that for her own testing,
that sheet was destroyed, which of course retraumatized the mother.

Speaker 24 (02:10:44):
Then, looking at Darren Seal's case, we got a hold
of we're the only.

Speaker 29 (02:10:48):
Ones at this point to have gotten a hold of
the police report, and we found that they, the local police,
sing Lewis County Police had found someone that they believe
should be prosecuted for.

Speaker 24 (02:10:59):
The shooting and a number of other people involved.

Speaker 29 (02:11:03):
And the prosecutor of Saint Louis County chose not to prosecute.

Speaker 24 (02:11:08):
And therefore we can't legally say that we solved the murder.

Speaker 29 (02:11:11):
But we believe anyone who listens to after the Uprising
season two will feel as we do, that they know
who did do the murder of Darren Seals.

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
In twenty sixteen, Maria uformer state senator there elected official
and look, this was a when he was killed. This
shot a lot of different people. This also came out
later The Saint Louis Riverfront Dins posted this here go
to my iPad Anthony that the FBI had been surveiling
Darren Seals and it wasn't there like multiple people who

(02:11:43):
were found in burning cars.

Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
Yes, there were Roland, there were several people who died
who were activists, who were prominent activists, and we are
looking at many of these cases, and Darren's case was
really special to us. It was a way of public
service that we can give back to the activist community

(02:12:06):
because they deserved an answer. But there are others who
who were killed and we looked to investigate those murders
as well. But I'm glad that we did solve the case.
And what's important is the investigation was very thorough and
usually we have a huge suspicion of police officers not

(02:12:27):
doing their job covering up things. But in the two
hundred page police report, and after two and a half
years of investigating Darren Seal's murder, we believed that we
found the culprits who were involved in his murder.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
There was a lot of back and forth between Saint
Louis law enforcement and activist in the wake of the
death of Michael Brown and folk not trusting one another,
and just so many people ray in that area just
did not They were just not down with law enforcement
because they just could not believe the answer. They kept

(02:13:05):
coming back when He's folks kept ended up dead.

Speaker 24 (02:13:08):
Yeah, well it's interesting too. As I said, when we
investigated the.

Speaker 29 (02:13:11):
Dannie Jones case, we found there wasn't there there regarding
the lead detective, just as the mother had suspected Melissa McKinnon's.
But with season two looking at Darren Seals, we found
the issue was actually in the prosecutor's office and possibly
with the FBI, because the local police, as we could
see from the report, did make a prosecutorial recommendation in

(02:13:34):
twenty eighteen regarding the person they believe shot Darren Seals,
who went by the name Keelo Anthony Irvin Junior, and
a team of police and FBI.

Speaker 24 (02:13:46):
Went to his home and arrested him.

Speaker 29 (02:13:48):
They held him in jail for three days, and the
prosecutor's office let him out and shows not to prosecute
him or any of the other people involved in the
destruction of the body. The other person allegedly LP who
was in the car at the time of his shooting.

Speaker 24 (02:14:04):
And the person that many.

Speaker 29 (02:14:06):
Led us to believe may have ordered it, which was
the co manager of the hip hop group Bottom Boys,
who managed it with Darren Seals, someone named Jaybird. And
what I think is most interesting here is the FBI
was surveilling Darren Seals for the six months before he

(02:14:27):
was murdered, through the time of his murder, and we talked.

Speaker 24 (02:14:31):
With multiple people in his life, including his.

Speaker 29 (02:14:33):
Mother, who recount that there appeared to have been an
effort to fairly openly either recruit Darren Seals as a
federal asset or give the appearance that he had been
recruited as a federal asset. And that's what we were
told was the reason why his murder was ordered, because

(02:14:54):
it was believed that he was cooperating.

Speaker 24 (02:14:56):
And there's an open question, how did this person.

Speaker 29 (02:14:59):
Jaybird, if he was the one who did it, come
to the belief that Darren was cooperating with.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
Defense questions from the panel. Derek your first, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
I appreciate the work that you all are doing. Man,
it's gut riching because.

Speaker 18 (02:15:19):
We hear these scenarios over and over again, you know,
rush to judgment, tampering with evidence, and how that erose
public trust. And so my question, given that we have
an administration with a department of justice that just do

(02:15:41):
not follow up on these civil rights cases anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
In fact, Derek just froze. We'll try to get him back.
Go right ahead, Michael, what's your question?

Speaker 20 (02:15:55):
Okay, so you answer one question I had, what was
the motive believe motive behind the killing? And then secondly
I may have missed it, but how do you bring
the alleged killer to justice?

Speaker 9 (02:16:14):
What's the process for that?

Speaker 6 (02:16:18):
Here's the irony of it all. We actually looked into
the murderer.

Speaker 3 (02:16:25):
And found out that a year and a half after
being arrested, he too was murdered, and the murderers in
his case were let go. But there was another person
who was suspected of being in the car when Darren
was killed. And so all of this is in the

(02:16:45):
office of the prosecutor in Saint Louis County. And I
just want to say that one of the people who
was arrested was in jail for about five or six days,
and he had several different phone calls out to different people,
including his lawyer. The interesting note to this is that
Saint Louis County refused to give this public information out,

(02:17:07):
including telephone.

Speaker 6 (02:17:08):
Calls and the paperwork.

Speaker 3 (02:17:10):
What people must know is that there was no paperwork
available to anyone or documented between the arrest of Kilo,
who is charged in this case, and when Kilo was
let out of jail. There's absolutely no paperwork that we

(02:17:31):
were able to get and that is one of the
reasons why we went to the state to file a
complaint with the Attorney General, and it's one of the
reasons why we are still keeping Saint Louis County accountable
because we want to make sure that there's justice. There
was not just one person in the car when Darren
was killed. There were two people in the car and

(02:17:53):
the second person is still walking.

Speaker 6 (02:17:55):
For you on the streets right now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
Wow, there's a whole lot going on there. How can
folks listen to the podcast? Where do they go?

Speaker 3 (02:18:02):
Wherever you get your podcasts?

Speaker 13 (02:18:04):
Go to?

Speaker 3 (02:18:05):
After the Uprising Season two, we are on iHeart, we
are on Spotify and YouTube, and.

Speaker 6 (02:18:14):
Just please listen.

Speaker 3 (02:18:14):
We are really honored to get the second NAACP Image
Award nomination. We didn't win, but we are proud of
our accomplishments.

Speaker 1 (02:18:23):
All right, then, Ray and Maria, we really appreciate it.
Thanks a lot, Thank you, all right, folks, that is it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:30):
For us.

Speaker 1 (02:18:30):
Let me thank Matt, Let me think Derek, let me
think Michael been on today's panel. She'll appreciate it. Thank
you so very much, folks. Tomorrow Friendship Public Charter School
Teacher of the Year Gala, I will be m seeing
again this year. Will be live streaming get right here
on the Blackstar Network. So I look forward to to that.
I think again, this is like the eighth nineth maybe

(02:18:51):
even the tenth year in a row. I've done this
if you removed the COVID years. So but looking forward
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If y'all want to support the work that we do,
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(02:19:17):
my god, who else we have on today? I mean
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are not being booked on MSNBC. They're not being booked
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Speaker 2 (02:23:50):
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Speaker 1 (02:23:51):
Fan base. Let's move that to another million followers, and
then if you want to invest in the crowdfund. They've
raised eleven million dollars, so they're getting closer to the
seventeen million goal. It's gonna start engine dot com Forward
slash fan base, y'all. That's it. I'll see y'all on Monday.
Right here. Oh, first of all, we've got great content
this weekend. We're gonna be kicking stuff out. So go
to the YouTube channel YouTube dot com Ford slash rollis

(02:24:14):
Martin and do me a favor. Push our YouTube links, y'all.
On all your social media, just go to the YouTube channel.
Let people know if they missed the segment. All of
that helps us, y'all. YouTube people, y'all should be hitting
the light butt as well. It impacts the algorithm, because y'all,
this is about building. I'm telling y'all, we are building this.
We're building this, We're building this, and I can wait

(02:24:37):
until we hit two million, three million, four million, five
million followers because we ain't stopping, unfiltered, unapologetic and absolutely
black as we always do. We wrote the names of
the people who contributed to our show. More than thirty
five thousand people have done so. To hear all their names,

(02:24:57):
I'll see y'all on Monday.

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