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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Folks.

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I'm ready, hey, folks to that's Tuesday, May twenty, twenty
twenty five, coming up on Roland Mark Unfolks City Live
on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
The world is watching and see what happens now that.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
The South African president has touched down in the United
States for a high stakes meeting with the twice impeached,
criminal convicted fellow in the chief who has constantly been
attacking South Africa calling them races. Will break down this
critical trip. The GOP's new budget bill in major trouble.
That idiot Trump goes to Capitol Hill and even he

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Speaker 3 (02:14):
The President of South Africa, Cyril Ramaposa, is in the
United States for three days of high stakes meetings with
the twice impeached, crimeently convicted fellam in chief Donald Trump. Now,
there's been lots of tensions between the United States and
South Africa. Now, for South Africa side, it's all been
the United States accusing them of racism, accusing them of genocide.

(02:37):
Donald Trump taking the side of white africanner farmers there
in South Africa. Lie about farmers being killed over land,
just lies, lies, lives. You've had Secretary State Marco Rubio
attacking the South African United States ambassador of refusing to
allow him to be in the country.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
And so it has been all sorts of things.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now, while the White House really had hasn't released a
detailed schedule. Ramafosa's office has said the focus will be
in reframing economic and commercial ties with the United States.
Of course, tears are on the table. You got massive cuts.
Donald Trump is ordered the resources to South Africa. So
all these things are happening. Johannah LeBlanc is a partner

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at a Doomia Vowsory group. She joins us right now, Johannah,
glad to have you here. And this is me. Look
from the South African president's standpoint, he needs the United States.
But also what he can't though though, is give the
impression that he is capitulating to this line thug Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
I think the meeting between the President of South Africa
and President Donald Trump is one that is needed, and
I think that it shouldn't just be a photo op.
It should be an opportunity to discuss commercial related matters,
because I don't think presidents should even waste his time
to even discuss us the issue around the African conners

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who are granted refuge status into the United States, because
I think that the US has its position and certainly
President rama Posa has its position, and the international community also.

Speaker 8 (04:15):
Has has its position.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
And it appears to be some level of discrepancy as
to what's really happening on the ground and this administration's
position as to what's happening in South ext Africa as
it relates to white South Africans. But I think instead,
you know, President rama Posa, isn't a great position of leverage.
You're talking about a country that holds the keys to

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some of the world's most critical minerals that are needed
in order to advance our world forward. So so there
that's a that's a that's a position of leverage to
negotiate what some of those critical what are some of
those deals around those critical minerals would look like in
South Africa. But more importantly, before we even got to

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the issue of the white South Africans, I think that
South Africa and the United States have been at odds
when it comes to a number of other policy issues.
One of them is South Africa's a court case before
the ICJ claiming that Israel is committing genocide in Palestine.

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Another one is MTN, which is a telecommunications company headquartered
in South Africa that has ties to Iran, a state
that is considered to be state sponsored state by the
United States government and also to the issue around starlank
Elan Musk claim that he is unable to conduct a

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business or to secure a contract in South Africa because
he's a he's a he's a he's a black man.

Speaker 8 (05:50):
I mean, I'm sorry, because he's a white man.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
When in fact, the issue is that there's a thirty
percent local rule that Elon Musk feels as though he
should not have to adhere to, and he feels as
though the rule is discriminatory. But the reason why the
rule was put in place to begin with is because
of the cruel history of UH, of the apartheid system
in South Africa, where black South Africans were robbed of

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their land, their resources, right and so in order, and
also it's murdered and kidnapped and and so on.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
So in order to address some of those systemic racist policies.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
In the country UH, the South African government has put
in place certain policies similar to affirmative action or diversity
inclusion programs that we have here in America. So so,
but I think nonetheless present on the posta UH isn't
a very good place to negotiate with this administration around
trade related matters certainly, UH, and definitely the critical minerals

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that we talked about earlier.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And look, for sure, it's not it's not a difference
of opinion. When it comes to what these white farmers
are dealing with.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's lies.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's lies from Donald Trump. It's lies from the United States.
He's been lying and saying white farmers are being killed
nothing right, He's a liar. So South Africa is like
you're having to prove a negative because you got individual
who's a liar.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Yeah, but I think that this administration's position on this
matter is not going to change irrespective of what President
Roosa presents to the government, to the to the Trump administration.
So I think that for the sake of diplomacy, it
is best that President Onposa does focus on trade related
matters that will bring about even better economic conditions.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
To the people of South Africa.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
And also to make sure that the conversation is one
that is that that is UH, that is productive, and
one that will respect South Africa's sovereignty UH and certainly
South Africa's domestic policies and definitely South Africa rule of
law in the country, because you know, when you are

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ahead of state. Uh, and you are able to meet
with your counterpart. Right, there are a number of things
on the table that could be discussed, but you really
have to sit down and assess to see which discussions
are even worth having.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
And I think this one about the white South Africans
is one that is not a necessary conversation for President
I upposed to have with President Trump.

Speaker 8 (08:28):
Now, will President Trump bring it up? Possibly? I don't.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yes, come on, he's going to bring it up. Let's
let's let's not He's going to bring it up.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Well, Well, one thing I will say is that we
saw what happened between the meeting, during the meeting between
Zelenski and President Trump a couple of months ago, and
I'll and I will tell you this, Roland. The whole
world has been watching, has been waiting in anticipation of
this meeting between these two leaders because they're wondering.

Speaker 8 (09:03):
Will there be another another showdown the two leaders. So
everyone is watching anticipation. But one thing I can tell
you is that I've been in rooms with President Ramaposa.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
He is one that is very diplomatic, very charismatic, and
there is no denying that I think he's going to
handle himself very well. But there are some concerns about
how this meeting could potentially be embarrassing for South Africa.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
So we all here are anticipating this meeting.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, you can bank on Donald Trump will do all
he could he can to embarrass South Africa. Just go
ahead and write it down. It's Exton's stone, John, I
appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you, Roland bringing my palent.
Joe Richardson, CIVI Rices attorney joining us from Los Angeles.
Randy Bryant, entrepreneur, author of Never Say It's twenty five
phrases you should never ever say to keep your job

(09:56):
and friends out of DC? Can this Kelly Legal and listen,
hope not all hood out of South Orange, New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I'm gonna start We'll start with you.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Can this listen. We know what this thug is going
to do. We know he's going to he's gonna he's
gonna bring up the farmers, he's gonna bring it up.
He's gonna he's gonna tax South South Africa for going
after Israel when it comes to genocide in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
All those different things that's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Uh, and so let's just be real clear, there's nothing
about Donald Trump that says diplomacy unless you are an
oil state and you're kissing his ass giving him wonderful trinkets.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Listen, when he sits down with people and have this
authority in this capacity, there's always going to be a
major exchange that he wants and if that doesn't happen,
if he doesn't get his way, then there's going to
be a fight.

Speaker 8 (10:42):
I'm just interested in seeing if.

Speaker 9 (10:43):
This president president, with his command, with his presence, uh,
with with all of the charm that he has when
he enters a room as were she was just talking
about what will happen if things go wrong. I would
imagine that if something was put on the table where
it ends up like other people like Zelenski in in

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his position, I don't think it will go quite the
same way. I do not think that this man is
going to let Donald Trump win. So it's something that
I'm certainly going to be looking forward to, especially not
just the content, but kind of the nature and the
dynamics of what's going on between these two men.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh absolutely, and uh Joe, we know who is going
to be the idiot? Uh In any conversation. I mean, look,
he showed his ass when the Canadian Prime Minister was here,
just straight lion.

Speaker 10 (11:35):
Yeah, and you know, you've got to be wise. The
point that was that was made before and even in
the interview. If you've got uh, you know, the South
African president is very wise.

Speaker 11 (11:46):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
He understands uh where he sits uh, and he probably
understands what would benefit America that South Africa actually has
and can do.

Speaker 12 (11:58):
And so my sense is that he's going to do
what he can to get to the point.

Speaker 10 (12:02):
He will make the points that he needs to for sure,
but also at the same time give Donald Trump the
potential to make a deal. See, because here's the thing
about Donald Trump. Donald Trump will talk all day long
about making the deal he wants to make a deal,
but it's an artificial finish line in that it's not
always a good.

Speaker 12 (12:20):
Deal, okay.

Speaker 10 (12:22):
And so I think that the South African president will
probably think about a couple of things. First of all,
the deal that he may want that may benefit his people,
and also saving face with his own people.

Speaker 12 (12:33):
Lensky was saving face and continuing to have.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
The support of his own people, which is why he
had to do things the way he had to do them,
and so my sense is the South African president will
think of the same thing. Donald Trump may find to
the point made that he's a little bit different than
Zelensky in some ways, But the question is how far
we get or how much we have to go through
and how much stuff we have to muddle through until

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they get to the point where they actually have up
to the useful conversation. South African president will be there
for it to have it right. But he's got common
sense and he might be smarter.

Speaker 12 (13:08):
I think he's smarter.

Speaker 10 (13:10):
You know that our president, which you have to be anyway,
and so he I'm certain has a good idea what
his goals are for him in this country.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
And he'll do what he needs to do to get there, Randy,
And the.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
South African president does know what his goals are, as
Joe is saying, but he also now has he's very
aware of Trump's personality. He has seen how he's engaged
with other world leaders. So I would think that he's
coming and prepared for the dance that he will have
to do with Trump. He knows that Trump will try
to present a story that we know is not true

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and show that his country is different than he knows
his country to be. I think that he will actually
stand up and tell the truth about what is actually
happening in South Africa. They fought very hard to get
rid of apartheid, although it's only been what since early
nineteen nineties, and they don't want it to seem as
if now there is this actual reverse racism happening that

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Trump is trying to suggest.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
So it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, first of all, we all know that this notion
of reverse racism is bens Candice.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
You know, you know, Elon Musk wants to act like,
oh my god, they're just against me because I'm white.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean, his whining is just really pathetic. And what
white people like Elon Musk don't want to own up to.
They don't want to own up to that the racist
in South Africa wants to steal control everything, and the
ANC is like, no, y'all are going to have to
sit here.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
We had to endure apartheid for so long.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, this is the remedy because of your your racism,
of your mothers and fathers and aunts and uncles stealing
this country from black people.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
Well, listen, Roland it's this same argument that we're making
here over the United States of America. We need to
right the wrongs and kind of push through a system
that where everybody wants they take part, it ends up
unfairly to those who it kind of you know, falls upon.
So this is the exact same thing that we are
seeing groups of people trying to change history and then

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the black South Africans coming in and.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
Saying no, you need to understand what it is. It's
a learning.

Speaker 9 (15:27):
Process and it's something that people when they try to
change history they get. They're going to get more pushback,
They're going to get more pushback from groups, They're going
to hear more about that. The same thing that is
going on in the United States is going on in
South Africa. Interestingly enough, history, similar outcome, similar how we
are trying to recover is similar to so it's no
surprise about where this is going to go. I think

(15:49):
what's very interesting is that we are finding ourselves in
the same position with again similar passive history and racism,
and how we have to continue to turn our wills
and go out of our way to correct what somebody
else has done. So it will be very interesting to
see how this meeting turns out.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
But Joe, the difference is white people run this country.
Black people control South Africa. The political apparatus of South Africa.

Speaker 10 (16:18):
Yeah, the political apparatus is different, for sure, no doubt
about that. And because the political apparatus is different, they
can move toward equity, which ought to be a shared goal,
which is a worthy goal, which is a morally correct goal,
and they can do that. The other thing that I
think I would say that Donald Trump has to be

(16:39):
scared of is even more he might not be so worried. Interestingly,
he might not be so worried about having an argument
with a black man that's smarter than him, right, because
he doesn't.

Speaker 12 (16:50):
You don't have to be smarter as a black man
to have.

Speaker 10 (16:53):
Certain people look at you and judge you to be
inferior based on you know, despite the fact you look
at the Trump Trump and the Trump administration and you
see competence issues everywhere. You see what they plex or
purport to be DEI, that's actually the DEI as they
define it.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
You see that.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
But what I don't think he wants to do is
I don't think.

Speaker 10 (17:17):
He wants to have an argument in a back and
forth with the right African nears themselves. Right, there are
people in that country that are saying, no, Donald Trump,
you're wrong, That's not what's happening here, Okay. And so
if you have if you're having an argument with a
bunch of folks that look like Elon Musk, now you
have a little bit of a different situation. You're not

(17:39):
going to just be able to put a quote black face,
a quote, DEEI face a quote, you know, you know,
minority face.

Speaker 12 (17:47):
On this whole thing. And now it is consistent with
and helps your narrative back in the States.

Speaker 10 (17:53):
The reason why he's doing this is that it helps
his narrative here, but it doesn't help his narrative here
if people that are white and that look like him
are speaking against it.

Speaker 12 (18:04):
So he has to be really careful about that.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well. I really do hope, Randy, that the South African
president does not hold back and will not tolerate having
this idiot try to embarrass him on the international stage.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
I don't think that we are going to be disappointed.
Like I said earlier, I think that he is prepared.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
He understands that you know, generally worldwide, there are some
white people who are having temper tantrums just because we
are trying to make things right, Like that's what DEI
was about. You know, I love the quote that always
says that for people who are accustomed to privilege, equality
feels like oppression. And so because we're trying to right

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the wrongs of the past and make things equal here
in America and in South Africa, you have some people
like Donald Trump claiming that others are being oppressed, which
that's not what's happening at all. And I believe the
President of South Africa is going to make that quite clear.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
And this is the President of South Africa. Actually, Uh at.

Speaker 12 (19:12):
The year, what are you messaging for making a deal with.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (19:24):
And you ready Trump? What's gonna be an icebreaker?

Speaker 12 (19:31):
Really good discussions with Trump?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (19:35):
And UH, fellow.

Speaker 13 (19:39):
Happening, looking forward to a really good church and positively.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
Looking forward to a three.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
Good health Roka.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You might remember he was arrested earlier this month outside
of the De Lady Hall Ice facility while standing alongside
members of Congress. They were there to expect the place
and raise alarms about how detainee, many of them immigrants.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Of color, are being treated.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Baraka, who's running for governor was taken into custody during
what was supposed to be an oversight visit. But now
the use attorney for New Jersey, Trump's stupid attorney, Alena Hobbo,
says the case is dismissed quote for the sake of
moving forward now, idiot, because you had nothing.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
She even invited.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Roca to return for tours, saying, quote, the government has
nothing to hide.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
At this facility.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
To get the hell out of here. Meanwhile, congress Woman
Lamonica Macgiver, who was with Baraka at the protest, she
finds herself hit with federal charters for allegedly assaulting and impeding.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Law enforcement during the confrontation.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Prosecutors claim maciv pushed pass officers as tensions rose between protesters, lawmakers,
and Homeland Security agents, but MacIver says this is all political.
In her words, these charters are meant to criminalize oversight
and silent scrutiny of Trump's immigration agenda. Candace, they had nothing,
and they knew it. They had video.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Being walked through the gates.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Yeah, that's and he was not fighting back.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
Now, Listen, you have a couple of people, several people
who were in this situation where they were there legally,
they were exercising their authority to see what was going
on at this particular facility, and then here.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
Come people fighting against them. They don't know why. I mean,
the first response is going to be to fight back.
What are you doing?

Speaker 9 (21:24):
We don't have any reason not to be here, so
why are you fighting us? So it makes sense that
she would fight back. It makes sense that everybody was
in the middle of that because nobody knew what was
going on. Nobody properly announced themselves, nobody properly made it
plain that they should that they shouldn't be here, and
that this was illegally because it wasn't illegal, there was

(21:45):
no protests. And what's interesting about this is that you
have two people who were at the same facility, the
same melee, if you will, but only one person got
charged and the other person. I mean, it makes no sense.
They were all there for the same thing, and if
they were defending themselves or responding in any way, if
I'm someone looking at this case, it makes sense that

(22:05):
they were responding that way because they didn't know what
was going on. That's just the human instinct, and they
weren't doing anything.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
Wrong at all.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Joe yeah.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
I mean, you know, it's interesting they've jumped off of
the mayor of Raha and jump on to the representative.

Speaker 12 (22:23):
But I don't think the results going to be any different.

Speaker 10 (22:25):
So maybe they think the representative was a little bit
more visually involved in the stuff. So therefore, you know,
they can you know, arrest her for assault and things
like that. You know, sometimes you have to when you
are administering justice, when you are a prosecutor, you making
that decision. You have to decide what makes sense as

(22:46):
it pertains to protecting the public. This is not protecting
the public, This is not serving the private. This is
not going to do anything other than what they wanted
to do. They wanted to intimidate and to stifle site
checking on you know, our government officials that are supposed
to be serving us, that are supposed to be doing

(23:07):
right by us, and therefore hopefully keeping it from happening
so that everybody sees looks through the window and says,
I don't want that to be me. But I think
with the representative here, they've chosen the wrong one. I
think the representative will go all the way to the hill.
I don't think that there'll be a jury of the
peers that will actually convict her. Under these circumstances, there's

(23:28):
gray area at best here. All they're doing is providing
oversight and then there's a scuffle, and people have natural
instincts related to that. But a criminal case, this is
not public services. Is not protecting and serving the public
and administering justice. This is not and I believe that
that'll come out in the wash.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Well, we know these people are idiots, Randy, They've proven
that time and time again.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, and they've also proven that they have no respect
for the Constitution. I mean, it is our first Amendment
right to protests. And as we're seeing on college campuses
and in front of buildings all over this country. As
soon as somebody protests, particularly somebody black are of color,
protests something that they are for, they use the police

(24:14):
as their personal security guards.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
They're using, you know, the Justice Department to go after
people that they don't like or that are going against
their dogma. And that was not what was it was
meant to be.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Well, we know who we know who are idiots, and
that's anybody associated with Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
All right, y'all got to go to a quick break.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
We come back. Now, these same idiots are trying to
investigate the mayor of Chicago because he talked about hiring
black people. Yeah, I got something to say about that.
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Speaker 3 (25:37):
Unfilchu. Ice Farbie was on Capitol Hill today. That's the
propment of Homeland Security Christy Naum and I really try

(25:58):
my best not.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
To call somebody.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Dumb as a box of rocks, but Ice bar Me
is truly one of the dumbest damn people y'all have
ever heard. Listen to her being questioned, and to define
habeas corpus, it truly is remarkably hilarious. Just just don't

(26:31):
don't don't fall as your laugh.

Speaker 16 (26:34):
So, Secretary No, what is habeas corpus?

Speaker 17 (26:38):
Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president
has to be able to remove people from this country.

Speaker 16 (26:45):
Let's spend their right. Let me, let me stop that corpus.
Excuse me, that's that's incorrect.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
Excuse me.

Speaker 16 (26:54):
Habeas corpus is the legal principle that requires that the
government provide a public reason for detaining and imprisoning people.
If not for that protection, the government could simply arrest people,
including American citizens, and hold them indefinitely for no reason.
Habeas corpus is the foundational right that separates free societies

(27:14):
like America from police states like North Korea. As a
senator from the live, free or died state, this matters
a lot to me and my constituents and to all Americans. So,
Secretary Nome, do you support the core protection that habeas
corpus provides that the government must provide a public reason
in order to detain and imprison someone?

Speaker 8 (27:36):
Yet I support habeas corpus.

Speaker 17 (27:38):
I also recognize that the President of the United States
has the authority under the Constitution to decide if it
should be suspended or not.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
Has never let us be clear, it has never been done.

Speaker 16 (27:47):
It has never been done without approval of Congress. Even
Abraham Lincoln got retroactive approval from Congress.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Come on, come on, long have mercy, Joe. How dumb
is this child?

Speaker 8 (28:07):
It kind of.

Speaker 12 (28:08):
Reminds me of years ago.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
I don't know if you guys remember this, but when
Trump was first in office, he was, you know, appointing
all these puppies to the federal bench, and they found
one that didn't know what a default was, didn't understand
any of the basic litigation things, didn't have never tried
a case, et cetera, which doesn't have to be a sin.
But most people that haven't tried cases aren't getting appointed

(28:31):
to be on the court. So what it reminds you
fast forward, you got the head of Homeland Security who
actually deals with a lot of issues related to people
being potentially incarcerated, et cetera. Where Habey's corpus would seem
to be something relevant that you'd want to know about.
And you also need to know the significance of what

(28:53):
you're saying when you're actually trying to suspend it. You've
got Steven Miller talking all day long about well, we're
talking about suspending it. Well, and he wants to suspend
it is because it's it grants rights to people and
makes it harder for them to get to their goal
of a million or so people being deported this year.
It's not happening quick enough. It's not happening fast enough.

(29:14):
And so, you know, to hell with the rules, to
hell with the way that we are actually supposed to
do things. At least there's an admission when we come
up short normally that we have come up short here.

Speaker 12 (29:25):
Hey, no problem at all.

Speaker 10 (29:26):
Let's get rid of Heviea's corpus and let's have somebody
in charge that doesn't even know what hadas corpus actually is.

Speaker 12 (29:33):
Then they could ask her, well, how many times.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
Have been suspended? She said once. They said no, it's
been suspended four times. So no history, no, nothing, not
worried about that. Deal with the details later. It's not
about the details. Just lock them up, throw them out,
send them the l s out of doors. Okay, if
their paperwork gets lost, no problem. Everything's lovely because I
got to hit my number, okay. And so the more

(29:57):
this happens, you know, the worse than Look, you know,
I wonder who cares and how many people care. But
hopefully enough of this can happen where people really understand
that we have a serious constitutional problem here. We're at
constitutional crisis. We're not at getting ready to have and
if this happens, this might be a consultant.

Speaker 12 (30:17):
No, No, we are here already. Okay, we are here
and unpacked.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
We are living in a constitutional crisis right now, and
people have to pay attention to it.

Speaker 12 (30:27):
And it's too bad that sometimes.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
People have to actually have their rights taken in order
for them to really understand that. You've got citizens that
are supporting what Donald Trump is doing, and he's deporting citizens, okay,
and then he's deporting other people without through process, which
is granted to people that even you don't believe ought
to be here. That's our constitution. And so they're being

(30:49):
pragmatic about changing things. But we're gonna see what happens.

Speaker 12 (30:52):
The meanwhile, back of the ranch, we can see that
Christina has no idea what she's doing.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
It's got to be paidful as a law candide to
listen to these fools talk about the law.

Speaker 9 (31:06):
Well, you know, one interesting thing is that when she
came to testify, she had to have known that they
were going to ask about that the very least do
a quick Google search and find out what Hay's corpus is.
But what she did was she defaulted, like we've seen
so many in the administration, do just make it up
as she and she went along. At this point she

(31:28):
and Stephen Miller would be saying something different. He's saying,
let's suspend Haman's corpus. She says that it means that
the president actually has the right, the constitutional right, in
order to uh, you know, deport people out of the country.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
It's like they haven't even had a meeting to actually
say specifically what their talking points are going to be.
And even when she was told that that was not
what Hay's corpose was, she did not back down.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
It has been on the books, you know, we're talking
about here before the Civil War. So I'm not sure
exactly what she thought was going to go on, but
you know, intrinsic within her job, especially in twenty twenty four. Today,
on this Tuesday, we're talking about deportation and ice detaining
people and properly habeas corpus had to.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
Have come up, and it did. She was not prepared,
and it tells you a lot about what she thinks
about her job, and it tells you a lot about
who she is as a person not to even necessarily
look up what her job entaps.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
You know, Randon, I showed her this is what I
think happens in the morning. Christ is known is sitting
up plans and make up and established and secretary.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Are you prepared to make some shit up today?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, I am?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I am?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Or did you read the briefing books?

Speaker 8 (32:51):
Now?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I ain't read that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I don't need it. I'm gonna wing it, you know,
because the dumb ass who I work for, that's what
he does.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
I believe she is very again in her ignorance. I
believe that she feels comfortable. I cannot imagine even being
a in high school and not coming prepared when I
knew I was going to be up in front of
the class. She was up in front of the class
and did not know a basic definition that should she

(33:20):
should know inside and out considering the position of power
that she has been given.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
You know, I was thinking about that show. Do you
remember that show, Roland, Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
It was a game back in the day. I thought
about that show, and.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I said, you've got to drop that bad boy to
the second grade for these.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
Fools, right, you know that's what I was thinking. I said,
she would lose to the fifth graders. I mean, that
is basic government. I remember back in school and I said,
she is not smarter than a fifth grader. She would
not do well in that game show whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
And she's certainly not doing well as our secretary of
Homeland Security.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
No, the people love just okay. Now let me deal
with this next week.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
The problem of justice.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
They announced they're investigating whether it's hee of Chicago discriminates
against municipal job candis based upon race. This is after
Mayor Brandon Johnson, while speaking at a church on the
South Side Chicago, highlighted the number of black officials in
this administration well. In a letter posted on social media,
her Meat Dylan, a true maga idiot whose Assistant Attorney

(34:31):
General for Civil Rights overseeing the Civil Rights Division, She wrote,
based on information suggesting that you've made hiring decisions solely
based on race. That's kind of stupid. When a reporter
questioned Johnson about the investigation, he said this, this.

Speaker 18 (34:51):
Administration has obviously has a demonstrated the regular man's the
same towards what is sensible about our country, and that's
the diversity of our country and very probably the fact
that we have one of the most if not the
most diverse administration in the distry of Chicago. You know,

(35:13):
what's it's clear is that now we just the Trump administration,
not respect for the rule of law or what's sensible
about our society. You you could be hard pressed to
find qualified individuals who are it is administration, you know,
as uh, my administration reflects the country, reflects the city.

(35:37):
Is the administration reflects the country club. And that that
is the biggest difference between what we're doing in Chicago
and and and what is coming from.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
The federal government.

Speaker 18 (35:49):
We're gonna remain for steadfast in our committee to ensure
that the incredible and diverse talent that we have within
our administration that continues the medias force the state we see.

Speaker 12 (36:03):
Apologize.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
So you got to understand the white wing being so upset.
And this is just a clip of the conversation that
the mayor had that they are all up in arms over.
I mean, they're just totally upset because of what he said.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
But they ain't say nothing.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
With all on white man's You're hiring white folk after
white folk, after white folk in the city with a
whole lot of black people. Listen, look, just just listen
to this.

Speaker 19 (36:41):
Here some detractors that will push back on me and say,
you know, the only thing that Mary talks the mayor
talks about is the hiring the black people. Know what
I'm saying is when you hire our people, we always
look out for everybody else. We are the most generous people.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
On the planet.

Speaker 19 (37:03):
I don't know too many cultures that have play cousins.
That's how generous we are. We just make somebody a
family member, right, This is how we are. And so
business and Economic Neighborhood Development. The Deputy mayor is a
black woman. Department of Planning and Development. It's a black woman.

(37:23):
Infrastructure Deputy mayor is a black woman. Chief Operations officer
is a black man. Budget director. It's a black woman.
Infrastructure Deputy mayor is a black woman. Chief Operations officer
is a black man. Budget director. It's a black woman

(37:44):
Senior advisor is a black man. And I'm laying that
out because when you ask, how do we ensure that
our people get a chance to grow their business?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Truth be told, Randodies, they just can't handle black people
being in power.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
They really can't, and they really can't handle us being united.
What is really interesting, after, you know, being all these
years in DEI, there were studies out that showed of
all the groups identity groups that exist.

Speaker 8 (38:18):
So you're talking about lgbt Q.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
I A or a black, or Latino or Asian or
you know, you know, disabled Black people hire within our
identity group.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Less often, less frequently than.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Any other identity group, and it's because of the fear
of what's happening right now. Whenever we hire within our group.
Whenever we you know, if I'm a vice president and
I bring on a black director, it is seen almost
as a threat to white people in power. It is
seen as if, oh my gosh, she's starting to a coup.

(38:53):
So black people have actually strayed away from doing it.
They've they've held back from doing it because it creates
fear in other in others, and so we have not
typically looked out for each other as much as other
groups identity groups have and that this has been proven
of study after study.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
And you see what's happening now. When he's pointing out
that I am.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Creating a a an administration that is diverse as Chicago,
is that its representative of our great city, they're saying, oh,
there must be something wrong again trying to call out
reverse racism.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
And we know that to lie, it is a cat call,
to to create fear.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Anytime we become united, anytime we try to try to
create an equal system, it's very common what's happening right now,
and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
These folks. You know, we got a phrase that Texas
called man they chat my hide.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Uh. And and these these white nationalists, white supremacist Joe.
All they do, all they do is oh god, oh god.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
White people are just under siege.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
This is why I wrote my book White Fear, but
I predicted all of this here.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
And this is the Republican Party.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
They literally think that white people are just so downtrotten
and they just having rough right.

Speaker 12 (40:21):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's amazing kind of what
you see going on.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
We go back.

Speaker 12 (40:27):
We weren't too far when I was in law school.

Speaker 10 (40:29):
We weren't too far off of Harold Washington's days in
Chicago and all of the doors that were opened up
by that time.

Speaker 12 (40:37):
And you look at what's happened with other black mayns
over the year. I grew up with Tom Bradley.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
And then there were others David Dinkins in nineteen eighty nine,
et cetera. That any time you open the doors for
other black folks, And to Randy's point, black folks have
to be diverse in Bridgefield first of all, to get elected.

Speaker 12 (40:57):
Black folks don't usually get elected just by.

Speaker 10 (41:00):
Being elected by other black folks, not even just from
a number standpoint, but sometimes from a money standpoint as well.

Speaker 12 (41:07):
So we have to bridge build to make it anyway.

Speaker 10 (41:09):
And that's what we do incorporations every day, that's what
we do in our jobs every day, that's what we
do in schools every day, etc. But we are very
open to other people and having coalitions, etc. Because that's
how we because that's how we win, that's how we stay.

Speaker 12 (41:23):
In the positions that we're in.

Speaker 10 (41:24):
And we also understand the power and the value of diversity.
We don't turn around and become less diverse because we're
a benefit beneficiary of people that prioritize diversity. And so
again there's this entitlement that says and it goes back
even when people are speaking against firmative action, that is

(41:44):
rooted in an entitlement that says, we shouldn't these people
shouldn't be here, these people don't belong here. And so
again we're at this place where in a diverse city,
white folks think white folks and only white folks ought
to be in charge. And how dare someone actually have
the common sense and the good sense to understand that
that's not the case. And so the Trump administration is

(42:07):
reaching their hands into divers cities, into politically democratic cities
and things like that, mistaking what they had winning the
election by very little for a mandate that says we need,
we should be able to change everything, even if the
law hasn't followed yet, even if there's no legal precedent
for this.

Speaker 12 (42:27):
And so I think that the pushback is very.

Speaker 10 (42:29):
Very necessary, not only because it's wrong from a low standpoint,
from a legal standpoint, but it's also wrong from a
moral standpoint. And so I'm glad the mayorage doing what
he's doing, But lets you know how easy it is
to speak truth that says we want to be diverse
because we've got a diversity and we need to be
and then some people get their feelings hurt.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
Candice Listen, presidents and CEOs across the country, the handful
of African Americans that are black, they don't have vice president.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
That are black.

Speaker 9 (43:00):
That just doesn't happen, and only happens the only way around,
and it is because of the fact that too much
concentrated power makes white people feel very, very uncomfortable, and
that's what we're seeing. The other point I want to
make is that when we look at Title seven, Title seven,
there are some areas that it does not apply to,
like religious institutions and political appointments. So these are exclusively

(43:23):
political appointments. Title seven actually does not apply to them
in terms of barring someone because of race and you know,
and gender and things of that nature. So I'd be
very interested to see how this turns out, because these
political appointments are something that Title seven it is not,
is not an umbrella for.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
And finally, they let out numbers in terms of how
many people they do have that are that.

Speaker 9 (43:47):
Are black, White, Asian, and it pretty much would satisfy
any white.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
Person across the country in terms of looking at how
it's pretty much equally distributed. Does it have to be
that way? No, that is genuine how they Okay, this
is white.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
These white folks saying satisfied they want all the jobs.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Well, what.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
They don't want black folks having five percent?

Speaker 9 (44:16):
Listen the numbers that they have. I'm saying, I'll be
very interested to see what the pushback will be.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
It ain't no pushback.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
This is nothing but a pr stunt by that idiot.
So it is you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
I definitely agree. I definitely agree.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, but I'm just.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Saying that they have no basis. But but again, in
their minds, white people should have all the jobs. And
if you black and got a job, oh you got
it because of the e I you got it from faction.
It never dons of them that somebody white got high
because they white. Never it never ever happens. Hll right,

(45:02):
y'all quick break, we're gonna come back. We're gonna talk
about Florida A and m Man. They steal, they steal,
catching heat. This time, Democratic leader Hakim Jeffries hits the
selection of a grossly unqualified black woman as their president.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
And again, I don't care she's magot. I don't care
she's a Republican. Her resume sucks.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
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Speaker 3 (47:26):
Florida and m University's decision to select a telecom lobbyist
and former chair of Florida's Board of Education who lacks
any experience with higher education as it's thirteenth president has
reached Capitol Hill. During Monday's news briefing, Democratic Leader Congress
with Hawking, Jeffers was asked about the controversial choice and

(47:46):
her ties to Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 12 (47:52):
I'm Friday.

Speaker 15 (47:52):
Florida A and M University named Camarvin Johnson to be
their next president, despite backlash over her political ties to
Trump and her lack of academic experience. Critics view this
as part of Project twenty twenty.

Speaker 22 (48:04):
Five's trend of trying to take over boards and undermine HBCUs.
You've mentioned that Republicans lied about Project twenty twenty five.
Do you view the takeover of HBCUs as part of
that campaign to undermine HBCUs? And as someone who's supportive
of HBCUs, what's your message to students out there who
are concerned about the leadership that are being installed at

(48:26):
this institutions.

Speaker 23 (48:28):
Well, this particular individual appears deeply unqualified and unprepared to
carry out the mission of Florida and M the university,
and it's my suspicion that she will not last long
at the institution.

Speaker 12 (48:44):
She will be a failure.

Speaker 23 (48:46):
And we are not going to allow the Trump administration
to take over historically black colleges and universities across the country,
to whitewash our history and to try to indoctrinate the
young people of America with their extreme and failing ideology.

Speaker 12 (49:08):
Republicans and far right extremists are failing.

Speaker 23 (49:13):
They're failing as it relates to the economy, They're failing
as it relates to races that are taking place all
across the country. They're failing in courts, and we're not
going to let them take their failed track record one
disaster after the next and allow them to pretend is

(49:35):
if they've got some capacity or expertise to, of all things,
be leading art historically black colleges and universities.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Randy hain't tailing their lives.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Hum he told not one lie. He told not one lie.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
And you know, as a huge proponent of HBCUs, you know,
I grew up on Hampton's campus and went to Tuskegee
University and have had some good times at FAMU. You know,
this really saddens me because we hold our institution so
dear and it is so critically important.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
Who leads them, and so it seems as if some
sort of.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Some political plant has happened to let this woman who
has had no higher education experience whatsoever, not even taught
a class, now lead this institution.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
It's quite frightening.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Right now, she won't be successful just for the simple
fact that she does not have The alumni are.

Speaker 8 (50:42):
Violently opposed to her being in this position.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
And I'm also insulted. It seems that people think that
black people will not evaluate a person just because they
happen to be black. And you know, I saw a woman,
a fam you graduate loven Us who said some people think.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
Cooning is a career advancement. They that's what they have
taken on.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
And you know, this woman does have direct ties with
DeSantis and doesn't seem to believe in much of what
is at the core of HBCUs when it comes to
the advancement of black people and.

Speaker 8 (51:21):
Ensuring that we have a fair shot in this country.
And so I would be up in arms, to be
honest with you, I am up in arms.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
It's very disappointing, and I do I do agree with
Jeffreys that it's going to and she is going to fail.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Hey, we laid it out last week, joined nothing change.
Still grossly unqualified.

Speaker 10 (51:47):
Yeah, I mean you know, there are black conservatives out
here that you could argue would be more qualify, at
least somebody with the education background. You know, it's almost
like the Santas. Maybe you want sure can fail, you know,
you know, maybe it's that okay, we think that she'll
tell a line and be where we wanted to be.
But maybe it's like and if she fails, it's okay too,

(52:09):
because you at least you at least need to look
the part. And from an educational background standpoint, she doesn't
look the part. Maybe she's fine if we're talking about telecom,
were talking about lobbying, if we're talking about some other things.

Speaker 12 (52:23):
But what credibility is she going to have with professors?

Speaker 10 (52:26):
What credibility is she going to have with parents who
are worried about the quality of education for their children.
And it's interesting that she would put herself, she would
allow herself to be basically used in place as upon
in a situation like this where if she's concerned about
her invitation at all, she's.

Speaker 12 (52:45):
Not gonna come out looking better on the back end.

Speaker 10 (52:48):
So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense actually,
because it's interesting when you know, you put unqualified people,
people that don't fit into a situation at all.

Speaker 12 (52:59):
Now you're in holting our intelligence.

Speaker 10 (53:00):
You can't even play the game and act like, Okay,
here's somebody that family that disagree with who's professionally qualified
to do what it is and I'm that they're getting
appointed to do.

Speaker 12 (53:09):
We can at least say that, but we can't say
that in this case either. So it's interesting.

Speaker 10 (53:14):
I mean, i'd be interesting to see what the end
game is because I do believe that she'll fail because.

Speaker 12 (53:20):
You know she I don't know that she's going to
have the heart and soul in that.

Speaker 10 (53:23):
Place in mind, and it's not going to have the
respect of professors when she's never professed.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Listen, this is she was likely making two or two
hundred fifty thousand dollars a year. Candids been giving her
seven hundred and fifty grand a year. So the bottom
line is she's gonna make in three in one year
what it will take her three years to make as
a lobbyist.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
That's what's up.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
That's in fact, no other candidate asked for a salary
higher than five hundred thousand. They're paying her three hundred
grand more than the previous president and never.

Speaker 9 (54:03):
Even taught an online class. I mean, that's what's most
remarkable about this. When you sit on a decision making
committee in order to hire a president of the university,
which I had, you can't even get the resume through
certain thresholds to even get to the committee because the.

Speaker 8 (54:19):
Computer kind of blocks it out.

Speaker 9 (54:20):
You have to have certain qualifications in order to do
what you are supposed to do. I know when I
was hired, I had a juris doctumate. They were like, yeah,
but that's not a PhD. I was like, but it's
the doctorate. I mean, they are very very specific in academia.
Here's what I think's going to happen. I don't think
she's even going to have a year to improve herself.
We're going we're in the summer now, so the students

(54:42):
aren't on campus. Things aren't as active, but you have
a lot of people who are going to raise up.
If it's not going to be the alumni, it's going
to be the students. When they get back on campus,
they're going to be planning to get her out. She's
not going to be able to do anything if she
doesn't have the support. Like we already said, there is
no way all presidents do is trickle down and ask

(55:03):
for support in order to do what they need to
do coming up top.

Speaker 8 (55:06):
She doesn't have it.

Speaker 9 (55:08):
There will probably be protests, there's probably going to be
a backlash outprice. The students just happen not to be
there right now. She is not even going to finish
before the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Watch.

Speaker 8 (55:19):
There's no way. There's no way you can get anything
done without without having the support. There's just no way.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
It's illogical, but so bid And I say to the students,
stack with the staff, to the loven Hey, make it clear.
We don't like you. We ain't got to love you.
We ain't got to give it, we ain't got to
cut a check. So we'll see what happens. Florida A
and M. Quick break, we come back. We're going to

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trial of Sharon Dinnycombs continue in New York City today
and can this Kelly tell us what happened? Ah?

Speaker 9 (57:51):
You know, as always a lot happened. It's never not explosive,
that's the thing about this trial. But we did have
several people that got on the stand today. We had
David James who continued his testimony. He was an assistant
to Sewan Colmes. I mean, talked about drug use, how
Shawn Colmes always used drugs, and he just talked about
this being Sean Colme's world and that's how things operated.

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We heard from an escort called the punisher, and he
talked about showing up and getting paid for sex. He
went into all the details, all the things that he
had to act out, lots of baby oil, blindfolds, getting
paid at the end of each sex session. But I
want to highlight one person and that would be Regina Venture.
This is the mother of Cassie Ventura, and she told

(58:33):
a very interesting story where she was emailed by Cassie.
Cassie told her mom, I'm about to be exploited with
these particular sex tapes. One might come out on Christmas,
and certainly her mom panicked and they started working towards
a plan to try to get her out or move
her through this. But she knew about this, and at

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one point Sean Colmes told her mother and father, I'm
going to need twenty thousand dollars from you. I'm going
to need that wired. Her parents took out a loan
against their home wired to him. He said, if she's
going to be seeing other people, which he thought she
was at that point, I believe could cutty, well, then
I need to recoup the investment that I put in
hold and they wired her, wired him twenty thousand dollars

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and then after it was all said and done, he
gave the money back, all of that just to put.

Speaker 8 (59:22):
Them through a crisis and turmoil with their daughters.

Speaker 9 (59:25):
She also talked about getting into arguments and trying to
hit John Colmes because he tried to take away her
daughter's keys and then took away her cars. So just
a lot more detail in terms of these regal charges
and trying to connect the dots that he was doing
all of these things that trigger the RICO statute.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Well that gives Again, it's just it's just more outlandish
every single day when when the testing when it comes out.

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Guests every single day this week, but also every Tuesday
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black owned products. We see what's happening with Target, these
other companies ending their DEI efforts not supporting black owned businesses,
and so this is a way where you can actually
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into purpose by launching a company that combines her to loves,
teaching and coffee. Ezra Coffee is a premium brand where
every blend tells a black story, from sixty fourth and
Tulsa to Lord Baldwin. Jessica Taylor merged her love of
coffee with her passion for empowering young people to finish college.
For Manyan adults, financial holes put their degree completion and risk,

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which Issa found a way to build a business and
bring financial barriers for students.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
She joins us, right now, just got you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:01:55):
I'm well, how are you? And thank you for having me?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
So and so look the people, look, we know people
drink coffee, and so why did you choose this avenue
to go in?

Speaker 25 (01:02:10):
Yeah, so I grew up and joined coffee with my siblings.
So we started drinking coffee about seven years old. Were
dropped off at my grandparents' house.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Oh hell, y'all probably have been eighty HD from the beginning. Look,
I understand my grandparents drank coffee every day. I think
I probably stopped at about nine. Praise the Lord. I
had coffee since. But I know exactly what you're talking about.
They drank coffee.

Speaker 25 (01:02:35):
We drank coffee, right, So you can imagine when we
got back to Atlanta after summer break, my mom was like,
what are these people? What are these kids doing drinking coffee?
So she callsed my grandparents and it's a whole uproar. However,
fast forward, I started traveling. Notice that coffee tastes different
in different places, and so during my sister she suffers
from lactose in tolerance, which is what sixty four percent
of the community suffers from, with the largest group being

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black and brown people, so she can't.

Speaker 8 (01:02:59):
Have any milk her coffee.

Speaker 25 (01:03:00):
She also was a soy and a nut allergy, so
she can't do any of the other milk based additives too.
So we provide our mixed based origins in which people
can enjoy the taste of coffee with the boldness and
low acidity without the bitterness.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Of it as well.

Speaker 8 (01:03:13):
So all of our blends.

Speaker 25 (01:03:14):
We have an Ethiopian Sumatran, an Ethiopian Colombian, a king
in double A, we have a cognyak flavored bland and
candy ams and all those different things as well too.

Speaker 8 (01:03:23):
And so I started this, Oh, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Well for both who don't know, I mean, coffee was
founded in Ethiopia.

Speaker 25 (01:03:31):
Correct, correct, And it's the most exported item in the
world as well too, So when we think.

Speaker 8 (01:03:36):
About that, I wanted to make sure we connected those things.

Speaker 25 (01:03:39):
So the one thing that we wanted to do within
this coffee was we were found in the twenty twenty one,
so this is the height of the pandemic, but it's
also around the time where there this rasure of black
history and critical race theory is going on. So I
really wanted to combine that and also coffee where we're
continuously telling the stories of black people that are not
rooted in adversity or slavery.

Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
But really kind of highlight the beauty of them.

Speaker 25 (01:04:01):
And so we have our sixty fourth and Tulsa Blind,
which highlights the civil rights sect of nineteen sixty four
in Tulsa Black Wall Street. And we also have our
Lord Ballwin which honors Archie Lord and James Baldwin. And
then all of these blends tell the story of how
these things come up, came together on the back of
the backs as well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
So when did you launch it? What year did you
launched the business?

Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
Yeah, we launched February twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
One, and so you're now celebrating four years. We talk
about how the business has grown, but also you know
what issues did you face? Because starting a business is
not easy at all.

Speaker 25 (01:04:44):
It's not easy, and we, like I said, we came
during a heighth of pandemic. So we launched February seven,
twenty twenty one. In March, we got a phone call
from a representative from Target, and so in June we're
in the Target their first accelerator program, their for a
Founder's program. So we went from there we were accepted
that we completed that program. Fast forward, we went to Amazon,

(01:05:05):
were on their platform. From there we got picked up
in retail. We were in hib From hib we went
to Central Market. From Central Market, we went to Bridge
Street Market and now we just launched again in fresh
Market here in Texas. So within sixteen months we were
on retail shelves and within two and a half months
we were in our first accelerator program for diverse founders.

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
So we've grown pretty fast and done free.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Well, now your base, we're in Texas.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
We are in Houston, Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:05:31):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
All right? Cool? Good city, good city, me being a
native of it as well. How large is your company
terms of employees?

Speaker 25 (01:05:41):
Yeah, so we're just at five So we are small,
but we are scrappy and we're continuously growing as well.

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
So and one thing about us was we really utilized.

Speaker 25 (01:05:48):
I used to be a higher rate administrator, you sort,
at the Ohio State University and for Due University. So
I understand the importance of internships, and so we provide
internships to students within our program within our company as well.
And we also do senior capstone projects with students too,
So we've done those with Southern Methodist University and also
Baylor University as well, so giving students the opportunity to
work with us hands on, gain academic credit and really

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see if this is something that they want to do
working in the CpG spacemall.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Term questions from my pay list, let's see here Joe, Candice, Randy,
which one of you is a rabbit coffee drinker.

Speaker 10 (01:06:27):
But I'm a qualify if by saying that I drink
decaffeinated sometimes because the regular is kind of hard on
my stomach.

Speaker 12 (01:06:33):
So I got a two part question. First of all,
could your coffee be for me? You know, because I
love the kids to start up, but the coffee don't
taste the good.

Speaker 10 (01:06:41):
Okay, that's the one. And then here's my second question.
Talk a little bit. Looking at your website. You talk
about your blends, but you also talk about your impact,
and I really want you to share that because people
need to understand that you're another your company that is really.

Speaker 12 (01:06:58):
Looking and very serious.

Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
About making your impact in the community even as you
sell coffee.

Speaker 25 (01:07:04):
Absolutely. So the first question, Yes, you can drink our blends.
I will say, get a medium blend and you can
brew those at home. You can use them in a
ca cup if you have a cacup machine. You can
use them on your mister coffee. You can brew them anywhere.

Speaker 8 (01:07:15):
I actually have a bag here, so you can brew
them on any of your platforms. However, you take your coffee.

Speaker 25 (01:07:19):
Even and pour over and if you want hole beings
we have that as well. You can grind those down
for your express machines. And like I mentioned before, the
stories all of these blends are told on the back
of the backs as well too.

Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
So you mentioned our impact. So Ezra means he who
helps in Hebrew.

Speaker 25 (01:07:33):
When I was thinking about a name, I wanted something significant,
something biblical, but something that really spoke to the people,
and I landed on Ezra.

Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
And so what we do is we use a portion of.

Speaker 25 (01:07:42):
Our proceeds to provide scholarships to students who have holes
on their account that are preventing them from graduating.

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
And so our scholarship opens every year on June team
and so we'll be opening again this year.

Speaker 25 (01:07:53):
And what we do is we pay off those holes
on those students accounts so they can return to school
without leaving with student loans that were graduating with a degree.
And so I came with that because I used to work.
I used to be a leader viewer for Billa in
the Gates. I used to do UNCF when I was
with Toyota Push Excel with Jesse Jackson. If it's a scholarship,
nine times out of ten I've touched it. And there

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was a lot of scholarships that students were able to
get to campus, they had tuition while they were in campus,
some even had books. But when you work with first generational,
low income students, there are also ancillary fees that may
come to their accounts or holes that are placed on
their account that scholarships typically do not cover and the
families are not able to cover. And so when you're
looking at retention and attrition, you're seeing students leaving campus,

(01:08:36):
not because they're homesick, not because they don't have good grades,
but there's a hold on their account that's preventing them
from graduating. And so what we do is pay off
those holes so those students can actually leave and finish
their degree. And so one of our students, I'm in
twenty twenty two, she attended Howard University. Her parents lost
their job during COVID. She was one in to her
senior year. She only owed seven hundred and ninety three dollars.

(01:08:59):
So if we did not cover that fee for her,
she would have had to leave school, sit out for
a year so that she could come back and take
school the next semester. So we look to make a
difference and allow our customers to be a part of
that as well as we send out who they were
able to support, what students are able to do, and
so we've supported students at Howard University, Spelman College, Southern
Alabama State, Miami University, Ohio, East Texas Baptist University as

(01:09:21):
well to name if you amazing, Thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:25):
Of course, run Brandy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
First of all, congratulations. I just love that your brand
has just put so much of you throughout it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
And what matters?

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
What matters to you, What's what's next? How do you
see yourself? I seem say it's very important to you
to work within your community or to elevate your community.
So what is your vision to carry that even further?

Speaker 25 (01:09:47):
Yeah, So our our goal from my lips to Guard's
Ears and us here being two and more gathered, is
that whoever brick and mortar store and it will continue
to expand our retail footprint. You know, the work that
we do is great, but I want to to be
able to ward even more scholarships. I don't want us
to actually have to be in a session where I
have to send emails and tell parents unfortunately we can't
help you this year. So I want us to continue

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to grow into an expense so that we're able to
have bless more students, We're able to provide more amazing
blends and more importantly, tell more unique stories. Our La
grand Duck nineteen twenty eight Blind, which is our Cognac
blend that we have.

Speaker 8 (01:10:20):
Here, it too.

Speaker 25 (01:10:21):
It tells the story of Eugene Bullert, who was the
first African American fighter pilot in World War One. He
wanted to open a club after the war, but he
couldn't because he did but he couldn't get alcohol because
he was African American. But his friend Josephine Baker was
working for a Cognac company as an ambassador. Fast forward,
we have Arb Douglas who's also working for the same
Cognac company. He's selling this Cognac company and KGNAK as

(01:10:41):
a distributor, and that Cognac is which you know now
as Hennessy. And so what we want to do is
continue to leave these stories in about us that are
kind of unsung and people don't always know about, but
always be able to uplift our history in spaces where
we're actually they're trying to erase it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
Danis amazing amazing stories.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
I'm wondering what can you share with people about your
marketing and how you maybe had to change advertising, especially
during COVID and then now in twenty twenty five, what has.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Worked on you.

Speaker 25 (01:11:13):
Yeah, so we started in COVID, so we started in
the era of social media, and so that's worked for us.
And in retail, I always tell everyone boots on the ground,
So we do demos at different grocery stores all across
Texas and other states Michigan as well, that we're into
to continue to drum sales as are another thing that
we typically do as well too. Press and events like
this are things that we do as well too, to

(01:11:34):
continue to keep our marketing and in the front of
people so that they're actually looking at this and looking
at our coffee as something that they want to be
a part of as well. And then we are the
email kings, so we email our customers. We send out
different recipes. Have you tried the candy ams lind this way?
Have you tried the cognac gland with making an old fashion?
So we do all these different things so where we
can stay top of mind but also let people know

(01:11:56):
and then most importantly engaging the students. We even did
a voter's drive during voting season. We pulled up on
different campuses. We're at Texas Southern I few other college
campuses handing out free coffee. Regardless of your affiliation. We
just want to make sure that you're registered vote and
more importantly, that you were participating in early building.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I love it, Thank you all right, So, folks, it's
Ezra Coffee. Yes, so go to shop Blackstart Network dot
com again, shop Blackstart Network.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Dot com for you to get access to it again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
On that and on that. On the website, you'll see
there are a number of black owned brands that we
are supporting. There you will see more of these interviews
over the next days and several weeks. So let's go
ahead and again, so shop Blackstart Network dot com and

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you can purchase Ezra Coffee in So, folks, y'all at
that drinking coffee, so you should be supporting there's a
premium black own coffee brand. Jessica Sol appreciate it. Thanks
a lot, Thank you, folks. Gotta go to a break.

Speaker 7 (01:13:06):
We come back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
We're gonna be hearing from Congress froman George Baby about
the matt that's happening on Capitol Hill with Trump's Big
Beautiful Field back at the moment.

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Hello.

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
Hello, I'm a Rick and Mitchell a newsanker at Post five, DC. Hey,
what's up? Sammy Roman? And you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered?

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Well, the twice in peace, criminally convicted felon in chief went.

Speaker 26 (01:14:12):
To Capitol Hill today to trumpet his big Beautiful bill,
trying to pull Republicans together for this massive bill that
will take an act to the federal budget but also
deliver a big tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Joining us right now is Ohio Congresswoman Joyce Baty. Glad
to have you here on the show. So Republicshed The
bottom line is Democrats are remaining very strong, not supporting
this at all. Republicans they want to pass the guy
to do it themselves. They got problems from their own caucus.
A lot of them want even more cuts, they want
to be more conservative. But the bottom line is the

(01:14:54):
people gonna get screwed are the neediest of Americans.

Speaker 11 (01:15:00):
Absolutely, and Roland, thank you for always being on point.
I just left the House floor about twenty minutes ago,
and I'm going back tonight on the Budget Reconciliation Bill
from one am to about five o'clock in the morning.
Democrats are going to take over the Rules Committee because
we know it's important for us to be there and

(01:15:22):
to fil amendments because, as you say it, when you
think about what they are proposing to do to medicate
some fourteen million Americans are going to be affected.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
So when you talk about.

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
Medicare, Medicaid, social Security, we know one in three black
Americans receive Medicaid. We know when we look at the
needs for us, it's the difference between life and death.
They're not only coming after Medicaid, They're also coming after
the ACA because they know when we are healthy, when

(01:15:56):
we are alert, when we are educated, that we are strong,
so they're coming after Americans and especially black Americans.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
So much is happening right now in the House.

Speaker 11 (01:16:07):
But I can tell you to everyone listening, Democrats are
not afraid. We are not being silent, and I think
it's important for us to get that out and thank
goodness Roland for people like you, because I can tell
you we're winning in the court system. We have attorney
generals all over the country fighting for us, putting a

(01:16:29):
pause or stay on mean spirited legislation. But Donald Trump
is not going to stop. He believes in autocracy. He
wants a dictatorship, and that's why he's trying to hurt
us by not letting us be able to thrive and
to be healthy. But we're fighting back and we're doing

(01:16:49):
all that we can. Tonight, from one to five in
the morning, you're going to see democrats, so I want
you to watch it live. I can also tell you
Roland said something at the opening when you think about
they can't even control their own Donald Trump was on
the heel today because just the other night Republicans voted

(01:17:11):
with us. He kept them in there for hours trying
to whip them in shape. Those who voted for us
changed their vote to present so the Republicans could prevail
on bringing this forward. So we're in a good position
right now because we know hardworking Americans, and especially black Americans,

(01:17:32):
because of the disparities, we're going to be hit the hardest.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
So I want you to know the Congressional.

Speaker 11 (01:17:38):
Black Caucus is stronger than ever, sixty two members, and
we understand what our job is.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
It is to stand up and fight, it is to
use our voices, and we are going to be there
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Well, what so much attention obviously is on Medicaid, and
that's extremely important, but you also they want to just
take a meat cleaver to snap benefits NAP and that's
people who who don't have enough money to buy food.

Speaker 11 (01:18:10):
Let me just tell you what they're doing with snap.
You're right, it's unthinkable. The seventh of the eleven million
some people who depends on it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
But here's what I want to say to folks.

Speaker 11 (01:18:22):
You know, farmers need to understand the small business owners
and grocers need to understand this. When they talk about
taking away nutritional food from our families and our children.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
This is not just something that's a black thing. There
are white and black farmers who are going.

Speaker 12 (01:18:42):
To be hurting.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Grocers are going to be hurting.

Speaker 11 (01:18:46):
So we're asking people that stand up, not be afraid.
Let's take on Trump because we know right now that
most people. I went to the grocery store and when
eggs were fourteen dollars, I put them back in a
single house by myself and going to pick up a
few items and it being hundreds of dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
We understand this because this affects all of us.

Speaker 11 (01:19:09):
But we have a strong committee where SNAP falls under
the jurisdiction of agriculture, and let me tell you, we
have some of the badest sisters in the Congressional Black
Caucus who are on it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
And I need people to know we are not giving up.

Speaker 11 (01:19:24):
We are fighting every day for the American people, and
we understand our dispities and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
How we depend on the nutritional foods and what SNAP
does for our children and our families.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Questions from my panel, candis your first Can you get.

Speaker 8 (01:19:40):
In a little bit more about what you were saying
is going to happen? At one am to five am?
I think you said yes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Tonight, our rules committee meets and they set the rules
of the standards of what comes to the floor.

Speaker 11 (01:19:55):
So we have members of the Democratic Caucus going to
end filter rate the Rules Committee tonight with amendments, like
I have an amendment in my amendment. If they're saying
they're not going to cut Medicaid and SNAP and healthcare benefits, then.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Let's put it in the bill.

Speaker 11 (01:20:15):
Let's say, if you're going to give dollars and tax
cuts to billionaires, then if you cut SNAP and Medicaid,
then you can't honor your bill. Because they're trying to
say that they're not going to do this, and I
want the American people to know they're lying. So from
one o'clock after the Rules finishes with putting all of

(01:20:36):
the amendments and the bills up, which will be we
figure around one o'clock tonight, we're going to go in
to address amendments to their bill.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
And we have so many people.

Speaker 11 (01:20:47):
Democrats, members of the Congressional Black Caucus writing amendments that
my time is not until four forty am.

Speaker 8 (01:20:57):
Wow, thank you, and that is the power.

Speaker 11 (01:21:00):
This is relatively new, but we are as angry, pissed
off as you all are.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Today.

Speaker 11 (01:21:07):
We did one minutes on SNAP in Medicaid, in healthcare,
brought photos of families, and I can tell you we
usually had fifteen people who sign up to do the
one minutes today.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
A half an hour ago, I was number thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Thank you, Randy.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Are you having some luck with working with the sides?
With Republicans trying to work with you? I would think
that they recognize that many people in their states don't
need these cuts too.

Speaker 8 (01:21:41):
I mean, they try to portray that we're the only.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
Ones who depend on Medicaid or depend on snap whords.
We know that, you know, forty five percent of the
representative forty five percent of the people that are using
are white. I mean, are you having some that are
coming to, you know, on the other side and trying
to negotiate and work with you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Yes, we have.

Speaker 11 (01:22:03):
We only need four Republicans to come inside with us.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
But here's something we're doing to push the envelope.

Speaker 11 (01:22:10):
We are being invited by state reps, by organizations to
come into districts, districts that Republicans hold the seats in,
and we're holding town halls and now Republican constituents are
asking us to help them. Help me make sure that
I get my Social Security check, help me make sure

(01:22:32):
that I am able to keep my Medicaid or Medicare,
and so that is the hope we have that we.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
Are putting pressure on them. And let me just tell
you something.

Speaker 11 (01:22:42):
Elections have consequences, and so what our message also is
to make sure that people go out and vote, because
we're seeing what happens when people say, well, I don't
like either one of the candidates, or I'm not going
to vote, or I voted for Donald Trump because he
was going to help me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Well, now you see what help you're not getting.

Speaker 8 (01:23:05):
Thank you, congress woman.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
You're welcome, Joe.

Speaker 10 (01:23:09):
Appreciate what you're doing, congresswoman, And kind of building on
what the last part of your answer, you know, I
wonder how you feel.

Speaker 12 (01:23:18):
About the awareness of everyday citizens.

Speaker 10 (01:23:21):
You know, what you're telling us is that the members
of Congress are very aware, of course, and they're fighting
like cak or whatever you know, to do the things
that need to be done.

Speaker 12 (01:23:32):
You know, you've got this thing going on tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:23:34):
But how do you feel about the awareness of everyday
citizens and empowering them to say get mad, stay mad, stay.

Speaker 12 (01:23:43):
Involved, and never let there be a situation where.

Speaker 10 (01:23:48):
You aren't fighting like he along with us, so that
the things that need to get done, can get done.
How do you feel about awareness of everyday citizens of
how devastating this would actually be.

Speaker 11 (01:24:00):
I am glad you asked that, and everybody knows that
I speak truth to power.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
We didn't do as well as we should have in
the last.

Speaker 11 (01:24:09):
Election about educating the people, having a message that we
were going to meeting people where they were, and that's
we've learned from that lesson because it's a painful one.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
So we're being honest.

Speaker 11 (01:24:22):
You have members saying we're pissed off, we're mad, this
is affecting us. But we're doing more town halls. Our
messaging is strong, and we're going back home because as
Tip O'Neil always said that, you know, it's all it's
at home where you're elected.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
And so we're getting our message out.

Speaker 11 (01:24:43):
We're speaking truth to power, we're giving them ammunition information,
we're keeping them abreast of what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
And here's the other thing.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
We're challenging media to tell our stories.

Speaker 11 (01:24:56):
So having a Roland Martin having you on a panel
is asked, posing the questions to us and not letting
up is another thing that's very helpful. You know, we
know for black folks, because it's the sister just said,
with the disparities.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
We have that white folks also either.

Speaker 11 (01:25:15):
Benefit more than we do or they're in this ish
in this bucket with us.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
So when media is able to tell those stories, it helps.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Us, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Con from a George Baty, we appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:31):
Thank you, Rob, thank you for all.

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Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Night there you go, and it's gonna be worse.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Thanks a lot, folks, Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
That is it for us. Let me thank Randy Joe
Chanders Cannon thanks for filling in for me yesterday. Out
to the Anthony Anderson seventh Annual ANTHTI Inagery seventy Golf
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