Ras Baraka Sues After Arrest, CBO Blasts Big Beautiful Bill, Crockett for Top Oversight Panel Spot

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Win's the June four, twenty twenty five coming up on
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Star Network, to be joined by Mayor ros Baraka, who
is talking about his legal action against a Trump used attorney,
plus his run for governor of New Jersey. A scathing
new report the Congressional Budget Office shows the Trump Beautiful

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Speaker 1 (02:14):
Folks. Mayor ros Baraka has fout a lawsuit against Lena Habba. She,
of course, is the Trump used attorney in New Jersey
because over the issue of him being arrested at of course,
outside of an ice detention center. She made all sorts
of different claims. Uh. And he said, oh, really, this

(02:34):
is how you want to roll? Got you all right?
I'm hitting you with a lawsuit.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
He says it was peaceful, lawful visit with him and
members of Congress. Charts were dropped. He's still filing a lawsuit,
of course. Rocca is also running for Democratic nomination for
governor of New Jersey. She joins us right now, Uh,
Mayor Baraka, glad to have you on the show. First
and foremost, why are you following this lawsuit?

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Oh one, I just think they shouldn't have the ability
to get away with what they did. They put it
out that they dismissed the case so we can move on.
But they dismissed the case because they were wrong. They
had no charges my arrest was unlawful. You know, they
had no jurisdiction to arrest me whatsoever. And honestly, I

(03:20):
think somebody passed the word down to them to come
out of that facility and arrest me on the sidewalk,
to do anyway, and they took those orders and went
ahead with it, and they were wrong and should be
held accountable for it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
And obviously she made all sorts of comments about you
when it came to this particular arrest, and then later,
of course, they dropped the charges.

Speaker 8 (03:43):
Right they said that, you know, I broke the law.
I wasn't above the law.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
Some of them are still saying that, actually we may
have to extend the lawsuit to include other people, saying
that we bust into place. We you know, we kicked
all in, slammed ice agents, all kinds of fabrication, even
with videos present. They should have known that the video
would tell the truth, and it did well.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
We are talking about the Trump folks, and so it's
not like telling the truth is something they are very
good at. They are actually excellent at lying repeatedly, and
we see this all the time. And one of the
things that I keep saying is when you're dealing with
a bully. You got a punch of bully backs. You
can't you can't negotiate with them, you can't capitulate. You've

(04:30):
got to make it clear that you're going to fight
them as hard as they try to fight you.

Speaker 7 (04:36):
Absolutely, and that's exactly what we're doing. Like they think
they can just do this and walk away. They fingerprinted
me twice, took a picture, you know, took my monk
shots twice, did it in the jail, and did at
the courthouse. They humiliated me again, dragged me in the
basement to do it twice for a classy misdemeanor charge
that I could have got a blue summons for five

(04:57):
hundred dollars. Spine is the max of that. And there's
no s This thing is federal trespassing. Trespassing is a
state charge. These guys did whatever they could to humiliate me.
So now I'm going to suit them for it. And
they keep saying over and over again in the press
and media things that just didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Let's talk about So you got that going on, but
let's talk about your run for governor of New Jersey.
You got the primary coming up real soon. Main reason
why you want to be the leader of the state.

Speaker 8 (05:31):
The primary is actually Tuesday, June tenth.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
But you know, I think that ultimately New Jersey, being
one of the most wealthy states in the nation also
one of the most segregated, the deep inequities.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
That exist here.

Speaker 7 (05:44):
African American women died seven times more in the hospital
giving birth our children three times more for the age
of one. The wealth cap gap under Democrats just doubled
from three hundred thousand to six hundred thousand dollars in
this state. They spend less than one percent of the
states for curement dollars on black, brown and women own businesses.
Here in a state of New Jersey between where I

(06:07):
live in Livingston, which is eight miles apart, there's a
fourteen year life expectancy difference. New Jersey has very serious problem,
deep seated problems around equity that we need to solve.
Right we have been carrying other people's water, electing them.
Everybody has a plan for everything except the most marginalized,
except working class families of all nationalities, and particularly black

(06:29):
and brown families as well.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
And I think that that needs to be at the
forefront of this.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
And ultimately, I think Our economy remains stagnant until we
include a whole bunch of people that have been left
out and marginalized, and we need to bring them into
it and create a universal economy that has a pathway
for us all.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
And I don't think nobody else can do that. I
don't think it's on their mind.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
I don't think they see anybody see us honestly in
our campaign, sees all of the folks in New Jersey
for sure, and we're going to create policy that helps
all everybody in the Jersey, every family.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
One of the issues that I covered two or three
years ago dealt with a lawsuit by black private equity
company against New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy. Dealt with access
to access to pension funds, things along those lines. And
one of the things that is important that people don't
understand is that when you talk about how do you

(07:24):
expand opportunities, the reality is pension funds are the greatest
source of money that venture capitalists go after, and black people,
black private equally is locked out. Then when you talk
about a lot of these deals out here, you don't
have black law firms, black accounting firms, you don't have
African Americans getting contracts. So when you look at the

(07:46):
number of African Americans in New Jersey, these public workers
and even the taxpayers, are you seeing real equity on
the state level when it comes to African Americans be
able to access these state contracts.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
That's what I just alluded to that they did a
disparities judge study that showed less than one percent of
the state dollars go to black businesses, brown businesses, women
businesses deplorable, and the counties get worse and worse the
farther the farther you go down. We actually inure it
in the last three or four years, gave two hundred
million dollars to black, brown and women businesses, which is

(08:21):
more than the entire county of Essex.

Speaker 9 (08:23):
Did.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
I mean, this is pretty bad in New Jersey. And
you're right.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
I'm very aware of the lawsuit and the big funds.
It's interesting that Goldman Sachs has back bunners. You know,
have had at least three governors in the state in
modern times who handle some of our pension funds. At
the end of the day, we need a public bank,
not a commercial bank, but an investment bank.

Speaker 8 (08:49):
We need, you know, these kind of black you.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Know, investment firms to be able to manage our pension funds,
begin to put that money in the places we needed
and invest in black and communities and economically distressed communities,
the communities that are not necessarily black and brown, but
have been historically and economically neglected because of the poverty
line there. But we have to invest in these communities,

(09:14):
and we need to be for our own funds to
be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
You know. I did a story of the day talking
about how the Trump folks want to get rid of
the federal DVE program. That's thirty seven billion dollars that
goes to minority businesses and white women. I say white
women because the w is not women, it's white women.
And I was texting someone about that and a sister
said to me, she said, well, you know, who are

(09:38):
these black businesses? I said, y'all need to understand something
I said. Last year on the federal level, ten billion
dollars went to black owned businesses of less than two percent,
I said, but it was still a record ten billion dollars.
I said, y'all need to understand something I said. When
y'all just saying this stuff y'all don't realize those black
owned businesses, they a lot of them. Most of them
employ black people, employing black vice presidents, black directors. They're

(10:03):
playing black staffers, receptionists, assistants, accountants, law firms. I'm like,
so when you start when you don't When when black
owned businesses don't have access to city contracts, county contracts,
school board school district contracts, state contracts, federal contracts. All
of us talk about let's grow black businesses. I say, look,

(10:25):
everybody can't have a black owned T shirt company. Okay,
there are actual businesses, and there are services that New
Jersey and of the states. They are spending billions of
dollars every year of taxpayer money and we're not getting
in return on the investment.

Speaker 7 (10:41):
That's absolutely correct, well, absolutely positively correct. Whether you talk
about construction contracts or you know, infrastructure contracts, paper contracts,
technology contracts, all kinds of stuff, business services, professional services,
all the those things are go into everybody but us.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
And so we absolutely need to be engaged in all
of that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
And And if you take all of the cities, all
of the counties, and then the state together, and and
and kind of add up all of the money that's
being spent and invested in businesses and what we're what
we're losing, and what we're leaving out, leaving on the table. Tremendous, tremendous,
And like you said, a lot of the public workers
are black and brown, who's pension funds are responsible for

(11:30):
payingful a lot of stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Absolutely, and so I think people need to understand what
happens when you do have black leadership. When David Patterson
became governor after Elliot spitzer resign, one of the first
things that he did was to make massive changes to
black to contracting, and you saw a significant benefit immediately
for black owned businesses. And I just don't think we

(11:55):
can we can just underestimate what happens when you have
a black governor who's in charge, who can say no,
we're doing this, we're not asking we're.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
Doing absolutely and New Jersey has one of the strongest
governors in the country in terms of what we're able
to do. Most of the positions are appointed, from judges
to every department, to boards and commissions, to the Attorney
General to everyone, which means we have an awesome amount

(12:26):
of authority to make sure we diversify what government looks like,
what government had its head has its end on, and
not to just at the top levels, but all the
way down in the bureaucracy of government as well. We
can make sure that it clearly resembles the state that
is diverse. And it's a good way to push back
against what Donald Trump is doing nationally, to do in

(12:47):
New Jersey what these people are afraid to and be
successful at it.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
You're in the final status you're about to do. I
think what you heared of phone banking or block walking canvas? Uh,
canvases right now? Uh? What is your closing message, closing argument?
With less than a week before election day?

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Yeah, that's why I'm in a car.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
I'm knocking, jumped in, going back out the knock again.
I mean, obviously, I think that we are in a
moral moment, uh, in this country and we I know
a lot of people are afraid, but fear makes you
make safe decisions, not the right one.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
And I think it's time for us to make the
right decision.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
We know in our gut here in New Jersey what
we need to do in terms of in terms of
challenging inequity in terms of lowering the costs, in terms
of making housing affordable UH in the state, and and
and and challenging the healthcare companies and the insurance companies
and the hospitals.

Speaker 10 (13:40):
UH.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
We know what to do to make childcare affordable, to
make sure transportation is in our community. It gets us
the opportunity the job to the marketplace that we need
a governor that sees all of us. And people know
what my record is and they don't have to guess
on it. They're clear about what we have done UH,
and so they should know what we're going to do.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
They also know that we're not weak, we're not moderate.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
We will defend this state against the overreach of Donald Trump,
not just by words but also by actions.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
We're going to protect our residents here.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
In this state, and we're going to build an economy
that's universal that all of us can be a part of.
At the same time, and stop giving super tax credits
to the super rich in this state and make sure
we take care of working families here across for all nationality.
So if you want to do something bold, trumping big,
something different, then you would vote Rasbaraka. If you want

(14:32):
to do the same old thing, get the same old results.
You go for all of them. And I've been saying
there's only two people running for governor, me and all
those other guys.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
Sou employ you to.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Do the right thing and come on our tent and
make history in New Jersey, first African American governor the
state has ever seen.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
All right, then, well, we've got one black governor in
the United States, Wes Moore in Maryland. Would be nice
to have another one, and of course two, they both
would alpha. So let's make that happen New Jersey. Mayor.
Brocko appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
Thanks a lot, Yes, thank you, brother, thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Appreciate it. All right, folks, gotta go to break. We'll
be right back and talk about this race in other
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Folks my parents today. Andrew Clark, managing partner District Legal Group,
joining me out of d C. Glad to have you here.
Doctor Zachary Kirk, educator and content creator out of Atlanta,
Glad to have you here as well. As Zachary, I'll
start with you the theme for me. You're seeing Mayor
Ba Rocker run for governor of New Jersey. You've got

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Maga Republican win some seers running in Virginia. You've got
Garland Gilcrest, Lieutenant governor of Michigan, who's running for who's
running for governor in Illinois? You've got you know, you've
got black cannons running for nine states. Senate. I mean,
we have seen the change over the past decade where

(17:04):
so many After Americans could not get uh to that
top position being able to run statewide. But now they're
running state wide. But now you've still got to cross
that hurdle to win. Of course, we know the United
States Senate. You've got, of course rafaol Warnock out of Georgia.
You've got Corey Booker out of New Jersey. You've got

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Tim Scott out of out of South Carolina. You've got,
of course Lisa Rochester Blunt out of Delaware. So you
have four black United States Senators, and of course you
got Angela also Brooke out of Maryland as well. But
governor that seems to be a lot more difficult. You know,

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since reconstruction, only three African Americans got to the governor level,
Governor Doug Wilder out of Virginia, of course, uh daval
Patrick two terms out of out of Massachusetts, and now
Westmore there in Maryland. And so that's critical when you
talk about being able to be the governor, the chief

(18:08):
executive offic service state. It's essential.

Speaker 13 (18:13):
You know, we are living in the timeframe when we
need strong leaders at the head of every single state
that people constantly asking online saying, you know what our
Democrats doing to fight back against the Trump administration, against
the rollback of American democracy. Our senators and our representatives
are not able to impact a lot of the things
that are hurting people at the state level that work,

(18:36):
and the stop gap would fall on that governor. So
it's my I believe firmly that it is essential for
may Baraka to win that seat. And he came on
here tonight and gave to me an amazing piece of
amazing speech that shows me this man is ready for
the opportunity. But of course we know that from his credentials.
We know that this man is how a graduates man,

(18:57):
was an educator who committed his life to serve and
he's continued to do that very very well. It's my
hope that he's going to cross the finish line, but
it's not going to be easy, and it's going to
be incumbent on the people of New Jersey to rally
behind him. But not just the people of New Jersey,
but the black people, the brown people, the people that
are being most hurt and most impacted by the policies

(19:19):
of the Trump administration. To mobilize together to get this
man over the finish line. And we have to do
whatever we can to use our platforms to amplify his
message and get the troops rallied to fight for Mayor Baraka.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
You know, Andrew I laid out there in terms of
what I kept focusing on the contract piece. And when
you look at what happens when black mayors take over cities,
you then begin to see how things expand. And always say,
if you ain't having a money conversation in America, you
ain't having an American conversation. And that is critically important.

(19:55):
It's one thing to say we need services, but we
all so can't be talking about how do we build
and grow and sustain black owned businesses. If you can't
get contracts, if you do have a business, you can't
get you can't build capacity.

Speaker 14 (20:11):
Yeah, and one of the things about the governor of
a state is the governor is almost akin to if
you think about the president for the United States, the
governor is akin to running and setting the policy for
a state.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
And the great set of Maryland.

Speaker 14 (20:27):
We have Wes Moore, who is an amazing person I've
met and personally is a very very down to Earth governor,
but his policies on business are very friendly for small
businesses to succeed and also.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
For black businesses to also succeed.

Speaker 14 (20:42):
Prince George's County has the largest black delegation in the country,
and you see that, you see the economic impact that
that has on businesses, and black businesses in Maryland may
put a mostly mine that I've seen with some of
the abilities that they have to get contracts that you
may not see happened in South Carolina, you may not
see happen in Georgia. So for Rasbraka to potentially be

(21:08):
in that position for New Jersey and so much, so
much well down in New Jersey, storage down in North Jersey.
I grew up in Westchester, New York. So I'm very
familiar with that North Jersey area. For him to be
in a position to set aside some of those contracts
and also to promote small and black businesses is going
to be huge for the state of New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
The state. When you look at city County in the state, Zachary,
it's one hundred and twenty nine billion dollars spent in
New Jersey. I don't think people understated when we talk
about the federal government last year more than seven hundred
billion just the federal government. So when you start talking

(21:48):
about New Jersey state, New York State, we start talking
about North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, we go on,
we're now in the trillions of dollars. And what we
see is if you're seeing zero point five one percent

(22:09):
black owned, look how much money we're not accessing when
we talk about those contracts. And when I say that,
it's always amazing when I post these things on social media,
doesn't get many likes. Now if I post some bullshit,
if I chose to talk about Cardi being offset going
at it, if I chose to talk about something else, oh,

(22:32):
I might see a ton of likes, And I'm like, Yo,
we got to follow the money. We got to follow
the money.

Speaker 13 (22:41):
And we got to follow the opportunity that leads to
that money. And that's why it's essential that we get
people elected to office who are going to care about
the interest of all people, not just white males.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, Andrew, I mean the reality is black folks today,
we are not where we are. If you don't have
if you don't have Hatcher in Gary, Indiana, Stokes in Cleveland,
Manor Jackson in Atlanta, Mary and Barry and D. C.
Coleman Young in Detroit, and on and on. That's how
those opportunities in the seventies then leads to you begin

(23:18):
to see the rise of black owned businesses. Then you
got the people say, well, you know, that's the boulet class.
That's all bs. Because if you work for one of
those firms in a capacity, guess what. Those firms have
security guards, they have receptionists, they have assistance. I mean,
the plethora of jobs are there. That's what people don't
seem to understand. I mean, listen, this small business here.

(23:40):
I talk about it all the time on this show.
When we moved into this studio. We moved into this studio,
more than four hundred thousand dollars was spent building out
the control room, the green screen, building, this set, the lighting,
all of these different things. That money went to black
owned businesses. And that's what we're talking about. So imagine

(24:02):
and so those black owned businesses, they have black employees.
They were coming through here. Right now, our IT infrastructure
is being handled by a black owned IT company. That's
a forty thousand dollars deal. So again. So now imagine
if black owned businesses are now able to expand from
private business to corporate business down to again your city,

(24:26):
your county, your state, you totally change the game. Same
thing for our business is advertising. Guess what the state
of New Jersey, the state of New York, they all
advertise so people don't don't see. I mean, it drives
me crazy when we're having these discussions and we literally
are talking about billions of dollars that's funding white America.

(24:49):
So when black folks are sitting here going, man, look
at all these country clubs and look at all these
multimillion dollar houses, I don't see many of us. That's why.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (25:03):
And you know, just locally, if you look in the
Washington DC area, where Trump has spent a lot of
time cutting resources, not only jobs, but also federal contracts
as well. You look at how the suburbs and Prince
George's County were built. The top five wealthiest counties in
America for black people exist in Prince George's County.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Let me do that. I understand that point, okay, but
I got to stop you there. Here is why I
don't use that phrase, because they're not wealthy. Counties, and
I don't use it, and then explain why don't I
don't do that. They're not wealthy counties. They are places
where homes the value of the homes exceed half a

(25:52):
million dollars seven hundred and fifty thousand of million dollars
or more. But we saw what happened in two thousand
and eight with the home foreclosure crisis. Those places got
decimated because black folks had subprime loans on those homes.
So those black people are not wealthy. So I know
what you're talking about. And I see one of those stories.

(26:15):
I do not use the phrase those are wealthy counties
because they're not wealthy. They have homes that are valued
at a high price value. But a lot of those
people are government employees, or they may have contracts with
the government, And so what happens you start whacking employees,

(26:37):
you start whacking contracts. Those folks are filing for bankruptcy
or they're putting their homes up for sale. So that's
that's the only reason I want to stop you there,
because I just want us when we use the phrase wealthy,
I want us to understand what wealthy actually means.

Speaker 14 (26:52):
Go ahead, Yeah, and when you're talking about wealthy, and
I'm talking about the top two and the top one percent.
The example that I use for that area is because
exactly to your point, right, when we have a black
governor or a black president and they're in control of
these decisions on who to award or put the people

(27:14):
in control of who to award contracts to, then that
has a direct impact on the communities. When you're looking
at a place like New Jersey or New York where
their makeup of their government doesn't quite look as diverse,
you're seeing the type of people that are thriving in
those communities when yes, the same thing where those houses are,

(27:36):
for example, in Ardsley and Scarsdale and Westterster, New York,
are over a million dollars and there are white people
that are working and living in those communities, and you
don't see black people in those communities. That's what someone
like Ross Brocker is going to be able to change
in New Jersey. He's going to be able to award
those kind of contracts, give those businesses not a leg up,

(27:57):
but almost not a leg up, but they're I'll be
able to level the playing field for their businesses.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
You know, Zachary one of the things that's interesting to
me and I'm and it actually it it actually pisces
me off when black people fall for this. And so
allow me to unpack this. And I had this this

(28:26):
little black conservative always run in his mouth, and I
need everybody listen to what I'm saying right now to
really understand this. Let me, let me try to unpack
this for folk to really get when we make statements
such as we got to do for self, we got

(28:50):
to stop depending on the government. Do y'all know that
last year? Matter of fact, let me just go ahead,
because see some of y'all might say I don't know
what I'm talking about, but I knew exactly what I'm

(29:12):
talking about. Here's a great story.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
This is the Washington Post.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
This is the Washington Post right here, and this story
deals with the richest person in the world. His name
is Elon Musk. See, so I want this is specifically
for all of the do for self. We don't need

(29:43):
to be depending on no government. We need to just
simply pool our dollars. And I understand that whole point
because I built this. I used my own money, I
went out, I got I started with one sponsor, one advertiser.
We were in a small space across the street, and

(30:05):
we built up to where we are now. But I'm
saying this for a reason, because this is the danger
of when you fall for the oki dope of the
We don't need no government. Why we always trying to
go for the government. Man, the government came. We need
to stop big in the government. Here we go to MyPad.

(30:28):
This is from the Washington Post three months ago. Elon
Musk's business empire is built on thirty eight billion dollars
in government funding. Subhead government infusions at key moments helped

(30:49):
Tesla and space X flourish, boosting Musk wealth. And then
when you go into the story, begin to see it
breaks down the contracts. Look at this right here. Shortly
after becoming CEO of a cash strapped Tesla in two

(31:12):
thousand and eight, Musk fought hard to secure Musk fought
hard to secure a low interest loan from the Energy Department,
according to two people directly involved with the process, holding

(31:34):
daily briefings with company executives about the paperwork and spending
hours with a government loan officer. When Tesla soon after
realized it was missing a crucial environmental protection agency certification

(31:56):
it needed to qualify for the loan. Days before chrisp
Us Musk went straight to the top, urging then EPA
administrator Lisa Jackson, who said this was a system I
know well to intervene. According to one of the people,
both people spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear

(32:17):
of retribution. It says nearly two thirds of the thirty
eight billion in funds have been promised to Musk businesses
in the past five years. In two thousand and twenty
four a loan, federal and local governments committed at least
six point three billion dollars dollars to Musk companies, the

(32:41):
highest total to date. And you see they have a
chart right here. So folks follow me here. When I
hear black folks, do for self, do for self, do
for self, explain this. Do for self, do for self,

(33:08):
do for self. When we say we don't need the government,
you do know there's a reason see some of y'all.
Let me just go ahead and pull it up. Let's
see here, corporate ceo. See this is why y'all gotta

(33:33):
stop watching these other BS shows. Who went to Saudi
Arabia with Trump? See they ain't teaching y'all all this stuff.
This is specifically for all of the people, for all
of the people who love to yell. Do for self,

(33:56):
Do for self. Stop asking the government help you always
looking for a government Handogg, don't be doing all this
sort of stuff. This right here, boom, this is CNBC
Trump joined by dozens of CEOs during his Middle East trip.
And look at the article right here. They sit here

(34:16):
and they say Elon Musk, Alice Cart, Kelly ord Berg,
Boeing Jensen, Wayne Navidia, Sam Autman, open Ai, Andy Jase, Amazon,
Larry Fink, black Rock, Ruth Paratt, president and CIO of Alphabet.
That's who owns Google, the CEO of IBM, the CEO

(34:39):
of Coca Cola, the CEO of Uber, the CEO of
al Cod. Okay, that's just their particular article here. All right, then,
if you go, let's see here Fox Business may have
Give me one second. I want to see if they
have a separate list. They have all of the same thing.

(35:02):
They got a story here of all the folk who
are going. All right, this right here is the Heel newspaper.
This is what they say in the article. Hold one second,
let me close these boxes out. They said, Here are
the thirty two. This is what they say. Here are
the thirty two individuals, the White House said, joins Trump's

(35:24):
lunch with Saudi officials right here. Elon Musk, Steve Schwartzman, Blackstone,
Larry Fink, black Rock, Okay Reid Hoffman, co founder of LinkedIn,
Being Horowitz, the Vitry Capitol Firm, and Gresen Horowitz, Sam Autwin,
open Ai, Jenny Johnson, Franklin Templeton Investment, r Vin Krishna IBM,

(35:46):
Jane Fraser, COEO City Group, Michael O'Grady, CEO of wealth
management company Northern Trust, Kelly ord Berg, CEO of Boweling,
Ruth Perrat CIO of Google, Andy Jasse, Novidia Pallanteer, the
CEO of Baker hughes An Energy Company, Lorenzo Simonelli, Jeff Miller,
CEO of Halliburton, Olivia Lapouche, CEO of Schlumberger and oil

(36:10):
Field Services company based out of Texas. Dina Powell, vice
chairman of b DT and MSD Partners, a merchant bank.
Raid Daly O, founder of Bridgewater Associates. Marcelo Clard, entrepreneur
works with fast fashion company Shine. Travis Klinik, the guy
who founded Uber Neil Blue billionaire who serves as chairman

(36:33):
of General Atomas John ballast of law firm Kirkland and Ellis,
Jake Silverstein, CEO of Infil Investment Partners, Tina Sweeney, CEO
of Epic Games, Kathy Wharton, CEO of Northrop Grummer, James Quincy,
CEO of Coca Cola, the CEO of Uber, Francis Swarez,
Mayor of Miami, William Oplinger, CEO al Core, William Meani,

(36:57):
CEO of Iron Mountain and Information Management Company. So I
need all of y'all pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
We need to do for self. We don't need no
government help. I need y'all to answer the question why
are thirty two of the biggest corporate leaders in America?
Why did they travel to Saudi Arabia with Trump? Answer

(37:25):
that we on This is y'all, We on K Street.
Do y'all know what K Street is known for in DC?
This is the street where the lobbyists are. I need,
I need y'all to understand if I if I if
I got out of this seat, if I got out
of this seat and walk outside my building, and I

(37:49):
walked two blocks up the street. I'm standing in front
of the White House, Leafyeat Park. Do y'all know what's
to my left banks? Do you know it's too my
eight banks? Do y'all know who's a block away from
us right now? The most piction you used to be
the most picture Association of America now is NPA. Who's

(38:12):
across the street from them? A fl CIO. They're lobbyists.
They understand the power of government. So all so when
y'all are watching these shows and y'all listen to all
these people talk, and y'all know what I'm talking about,
because a lot of y'all watch they shows and y'all

(38:33):
follow them, and they run their mouths and they yeah,
damn all that. See y'all sitting here, You shouldn't damn that.
We don't need that. We don't need that. It's no
do for sale, do for seale, No, we don't need that.
If we want to fix our community, and we want
to fix our community, we gotta look inward. We gotta
do it for our selves. We got that, But you

(38:56):
had thirty two CEOs because you know what they recognize.
They recognize that they need government see y'all don't get it.
They love us saying yeah, yeah, look at them, Yeah,
we don't we don't need we don't need government. We

(39:18):
don't need government. Uh with and see because what they
what they've done is they've got you thinking, yeah, as
matter of fact, and so see this, this, this little food,
this little see I don't even like dealing with this
fools like this little boy King Randall. Okay, but somebody
responded because I respond to him, uh, complaining about job

(39:41):
corps getting cut and talk about what we need to
have a money replaced by local and state. I said,
what's amazing that you ain't say nothing about Mecca, You
ain't mentioned Trump. So he gonna post this tweet exactly
roland Mark don't want talk solutions. I never said that
Trump was coming to save anything. I literally said the
complete opposite. Last year. They conveniently won't share these videos
are that they didn't see it. Okay, So I'm gonna

(40:02):
play this video y'all, So I want you to listen
to what he says, and I'm explaining to y'all why
he has no idea what the hell he's talking about.

Speaker 15 (40:11):
Listen, there's not one politician that we need to blame
for the way our communities look. There's nobody that's gonna
help us fix our communities but ourselves. We are using
politicians right now to cope with our inability to actually
affect our own communities. Our communities are only going to
be fixed by us.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Joe Biden is not the reason that your community looks
the way it looks. You are.

Speaker 15 (40:33):
Trump is not gonna come save our communities.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
We are. We have to fix our communities on our own. Now,
if you so, let me explain that we have to
fix the communities on our own. Okay, So if I
take what you just said, So if the same Trump
ends the dB program, that will wipe out thirty seven

(40:57):
billion dollars in contracts and seventy eight percent of the
dbe contrast go to white women. Native Americans get a
significant portion as well. So we last year only ten
billion dollars, ten billion dollars was less than two percent
of federal countrict went to African American businesses, but it
still was a record ten billion. And see this is

(41:20):
what the King of randoms of the world and a
lot of these other folk who yelled the same stuff.
They don't seem the sense in order to fix your community,
how you're gonna fund it? Do? Y'all know, y'all know

(41:43):
that in Montgomery County there's a golf course called Hampshire Greens.
Matter of fact, let me just pull this up for
y'all so y'all can understand, because see, I really want
y'all to understand. I mean, y'all, y'all this they are
playing absolute chess and we ain't even playing checkers. Uh.

(42:12):
There's a golf course. Go to my iPad called Hampshire Greens.
It's in Ashton, Maryland. Uh, it's a really nice golf course.
I want to see if I can pull up some photos,
could be one. It's a really nice golf course, y'all,

(42:34):
actually golf course. It's a public golf course. Let me
go back over here. I'm gonna go back over here,
soe if I can pull up some photos. I played
the course. It's excellent, it looks great, it's amazing. These
are this is I'm trying to I'm trying to find
uh some of the photos. Again, a really really really

(42:59):
nice golf course. You can just go ahead and go here.
Here's some of the photos. Y'all know what happened, and
go ahead and show it. Go ahead, show So y'all
know what happened the first time I played it, I went, well,
I see what happened. It's a lot of nice homes.
It's a lot of nice homes near Hampshire Greens golf course.

(43:24):
It's a lot of nice homes. And I was looking
at the homes, and I was looking at this golf course,
and I said to myself, these white folks didn't build
them their own country club. But I want y'all to
listen to why I said that. So I'm looking at

(43:47):
this golf course and I'm looking at it's a county
golf course, and I'm looking at the homes around the
golf course. And I immediately said, oh my god, do
y'all know how much the value of the homes near

(44:12):
this golf course increased because of the presence of the
golf course. And so when I sit here, when I
look at certain amenities in neighborhood, see, I'm getting back
to see what King Randall don't understand. What I understand
is that when people petition government for certain things, it's

(44:39):
building and increasing the value of their homes, their land
and their businesses. See, when we listen to folks say,
ain't no politician going to save us. We got to
do for self. We got to fix it on our own.
Here's what they never ever say. We have to learn

(45:02):
how to properly petition government. We've got to learn how
to use our collective action, our vote to be able
to get something from government. Tell me this, Why would
the richest men in the world, Why would Jeff Bezos.

(45:26):
Jeff Bezos doesn't need any more money. Jeff Bezos doesn't
have to kiss Trumps as so, why why would they
at the nautation? Why was he there in Saudi Arabia?
Why are these corporate titans sitting over companies worth with

(45:47):
a market cap of one and two and three hundred
billion and almost a trillion dollars? Why would they beat it?
Because they understand the power government. Chip makers understand what
happened when Biden signed that bill spending billions of dollars

(46:08):
to build computer chips in the United States. Oh see, y'all,
Oh my god, y'all better understand Biden and computer chips.
Y'all better understand how these things work. See, y'all got
to understand what's going on here. Why is Elon Musk
all of a sudden against Trump's big beautiful bill. Oh

(46:32):
because the bill gets rich up electric vehicle tax credits
and that will decimate the growth of his business man.
Y'all better understand when the Biden Harris administration announced the
Chips initiative. Oh, y'all better understand. Look at this here.
Biden Harris Administration announces Chips Incentives award with Texas Instruments

(46:53):
to expand US capacity of current generation mature NOE chips.
Look at this right here, Look at this right here.
Up to one point sixty one billion Chips investment will
support multiple projects in Texas and Utah to help increase
production of semiconductors important for US economy and national security. Oh,

(47:18):
keep reading. Look at this here, the Biden Commerce Department
of Commerce awarded six one point sixty one billion in
direct funding. Keep going. The award follows the previously signed
preliminary Memorandum of terms announced on August sixteen, twenty twenty four,
and the completion of the Department's due diligence. Keep reading.

(47:39):
This funding will support t i's investment of more than
eighteen billion through the end of the year. So guess
what Texas Instruments says, we're going to invest eighteen billion
dollars over a decade of When it comes to to

(48:00):
construct three new state of the art facilities, including two
in Texas and one in Utah, Texas Instruments does not
commit to spend eighteen billion in new facilities unless the
federal government brings one point sixty one billion. I need
y'all to doe to mad. The one point sixty one

(48:22):
billion from the federal government represents ten percent of their investment.
So when Texas Instrument goes to the banks and goes
to their stockholders, they are sitting here going, we're going
to invest eighteen billion over y'all over ten years. Eighteen

(48:42):
billion over ten years is one point eight billion a year.
But the federal government, without the federal government one point
sixty one billion, guess what happens. They don't build three
new plants. Now tell me this, Why would black people

(49:05):
say do for self, We don't need nobody else. Black
people can fund this. No, we can't. Y'all, you're falling
for the illusion. I need y'all to listen to what
I'm saying. Black spending power is one point six trillion
dollars a year with estimates one point two one point four.
Let's say it's one point six. Half of the money

(49:28):
the average person spends half. Some as high as sixty
percent is spent on housing. So if you take the
spending power of black people, you gotta cut that shit
in half because half is going to housing. Now you're
left with eight hundred billion. We ain't talked about food, clothing, healthcare,

(49:51):
We ain't talked about partying, drinking, smoking, were talking about
all that sort of stuff like that. So that number
gone down, down, down, down, down down. So now you're
left with how much money does Black America have to
reinvest in the communities? So now you're left with wait

(50:14):
a minute, hold up, rolling. Now I'm confused because now
I don't understand what you're actually saying. Are you actually
telling me Roland Martin that black people should be looking
to government to invest in black communities? And the answer
is yes, because you know why Texas Instruments does it,

(50:38):
I b M does it. Oh y'all, since y'all, since
y'all want to go to school. Let's see here, Virginia
and Texts incentives two Amazon Home. Here we go. This

(51:10):
is THEO give me one second because this is behind
the paywall. But let me get that from outside of
the paywall. So y'all can understand Amazon, one of the
richest companies in the world. When Amazon decides that they
want to come to a city, what do they do?
They ask for tax breaks. The city, the county, and

(51:34):
the state in order to lure a company like Amazon
will offer them tax breaks because they are bringing jobs.
When you bring jobs, you're bringing people to fill those jobs.
The people that fill those jobs buy homes. The people
that feel those jobs buy products, So therefore they're paying

(51:56):
property taxes. They're also paying sales taxes and guess what
they are actually building, creating whole damn neighborhoods. Go to
my iPad. Henry April thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Amazon requests
first HQ two incentives from Virginia nearly one hundred and
fifty three million dollars. Let me go down here to

(52:19):
the story boom. Virginia committed in twenty nineteen to give
the tech giant up to seven one hundred and fifty
million dollars for new jobs it was creating at this
Northern Virginia campus. Y'all. I'm trying to get y'all to

(52:44):
understand that you've got to stop listening to these simple
signings who stand up here and say bullshit. That sounds cute.
It's tickling your ears, and you like that's right, that's right.
I like that, young brother, do for self. We don't
need them, We don't need them, we don't need them.
And while your ass is sitting here saying we don't

(53:07):
need them, you know what these white folks are doing, Yeah,
we need them. What can we get? What can we
get in terms of taxing centives? What can we get
in terms of breaks? What can we do here? What
kind of investment can we get? What kind of R
and D can we get? Research and development? They don't
call it welfare. They call it R and D. They

(53:28):
don't call it welfare, they call it taxing sentence. They
don't call it welfare. They call it subsidies. And So
when we are sitting here listening to people say this,
if black folks will just do for self, if we
will just fund our own, so fund our own without contracts,

(53:54):
fund our own without loans, I just show y'all elon
got a low interest loan from the Department. Do y'all
know what one of the biggest banks in America is?

(54:23):
I'm about to mess y'all up. I'm about to mess
y'all up. I'm about to mess y'all up. I sat
here and I typed bank inside of the us DA.

(54:51):
This right here, says USDA Financial Services. Do y'all see
this here? Agricultural Federal Credit Union AFCU branches, employees, National
Finance Center, Retirement plannet y'all see all this here? Do
y'all know what happens? Banks don't build a lot of

(55:14):
stuff in rural America, So do you know where they
go to get projects finance to build and rule America?
The US Department of Agriculture. David Scott is a congressman
from Atlanta. Being real sick, he became the first African

(55:35):
American to ever chair the House Agricultural Committee. Do you
know what my frat brother, David Scott told me. David
Scott told me, and it was her story relayed to
him back in the sevent from another CBC member, and
David Scott said, matter of fact, se if you can

(55:56):
call David Scott right now, call see if you can
get David. It's Scott Carroll on the phone right now
because I want y'all to hear. So, Carol, check your
cell phone. I'm sending you his number right now. Matter
of fact. Uh yeah, David Scott was told a story. Well,

(56:20):
racist white member of Congress told a CBC member's one
thing you can guarantee in life, a nigga. I ain't
gonna never be ahead of this committee. You know why
because the us d U s d a budget. See

(56:43):
I decided to take y'all to school today. Uh huh,
largest federal department budgets. Now we all know defense is

(57:08):
number one. We already know that defense is number one.
Y'all knows in top three aeric coaching. Uh huh, head
Culture Department. She when Marsha Fudge was trying to get

(57:29):
a cabinet positioned under Biden, she didn't want HUD. See,
HUD has always been the negro position. It's a negro
that position right now. If you go back and look
at presidents since the nineteen sixties, you always guarantee it

(57:50):
was gonna be a black HUD secretary. Okay, it's gonna
be a black HUD secretary. It's always the case, was
always the case. You're gonna have that. She didn't want her.
She wanted agriculture. She wanted agriculture because she understood the

(58:14):
budget of the USDA, the billions and the billions. The
farmers didn't want nobody black to be of a USDA.
So what did Biden do. Biden put in Tom Vilsack.

(58:34):
He put in Tom He put in Tom bill Sack.
Think about that, Tom bill Sack. Who's Tom bill Sack?
Tom vill Sack was the air course se Coultary under
under Obama? Was he before that? He was the governor
of Iowa. See, y'all gotta follow the money. What I'm

(58:58):
trying to do here, I'm about to bring in Andrew
and zachar in sec. I'm trying to connect the dots
because we as black people have got to stop listening
to people tell us y'all need to stop going to
the government. Y'all need to stop asking for handouts. When

(59:21):
white corporate leaders all across this country they understand the
power that emanates from that building two blocks away. They
understand the power of a governor, the power of a mayor,

(59:43):
the power of a county judge, the power of a
school board president. When are we going to understand that politics,
it's business. The United States economy is a thirty trillion

(01:00:08):
dollar economy. The second largest economy behind America is China
at nineteen trillion. China ain't close to us. They're nineteen
trillion dollars and we're running around here. Listen to people say,

(01:00:31):
ain't no politician gonna save us? You can ask Elkhart, Indiana.
Obama saves.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
This is what happens, y'all when you know how to
read boom Elkhart, Indeanda, go to my iPad story from
the Guardian. Elkhart, Indiana finally sees Obama recovery. Obama gets
scant credit in Indiana region. While Obama by President Obama

(01:01:07):
can't get enough of this small Let me go in
and hit the PBS story May thirty first, nineteen sixty.
Here we go, while President Obama can't get enough of
this small town. Look at this right here Obama's stimulus plan.
Guess what, Look look at this right here. Because of
the stimulus plan, the Obama policy saved Elkhart, Indiana. Do

(01:01:31):
y'all know what's in Elkhart, Indiana. That's the that's the
r V capital of the world. If you have an
R and V or a sprinter, or a vehicle like
the one that we have, the one we just bought.
Guess where that sucker was originally built? Elkhart, Indiana. The
Obama stimulus plan literally saved the manufacturing in Elkhart, Indiana.

(01:01:53):
Now I need you to understand what I'm talking about
when we talk about our communities, how we need to
be thinking differently. We are being played. When people stand
before us and tell us stop begging, stop going to government,
stop doing this. Well, guess what if that shit's good
enough for Amazon and for Tesla, and for IBM, and

(01:02:14):
for black Rock, and for Blackstone and for every major
for city Group, for all these companies, Well damn it
is good enough for Black America. Stop being played by
simpletons who don't know shit about politics. You're listening to
people who have no clue. So when folks stand before
you hollering how they pay African and they afro centric,

(01:02:37):
and they tell you your vote don't mean nothing, they
have no idea what the hell they talking about. Because
the problem is, what we have not done is being
to approach voting from a singular position as opposed to
a collective position. Would doctor King say on April third,
nineteen sixty eight, at Mason Temple in Memphis, Tennessee. He said,

(01:02:58):
black people collectively, he said, individually we represent one of
the poorest economies when poorest people in the world. Yet
collectively we represent one of the top five economies in
the world. He said, when black people move as a collective,
things can change. So what King Randall, He's dead ass wrong.
Anybody else said it is dead ass wrong. If a

(01:03:19):
black community of one hundred or two hundred, or three
hundred or four hundred or five hundred or one thousand
people begin to descend on city halls and county government
seats and school boards and state legislators and all of
a sudden begin to demand a plan of action when
it comes to resources, and then say, if you do
not deliver, we're gonna vote your ass out. I can

(01:03:41):
guarantee you you're going to see the resources come hard
and fast. But you need to understand the game of politics,
because it is a money gain, Zachary.

Speaker 13 (01:03:58):
The whole time that you were talking Roland, all I
could think about is, of course, the fact that this
man is teaching this man as one hundred percent correct
and he's laying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
It all out there.

Speaker 13 (01:04:07):
But when you look at what King Randall is saying, well,
people like him are saying, they're completely ignoring history and
how many times black people have come together in communities
and they've done exactly what the hell he's saying they
should do, only to have the government destroy it. Yes,
I'm talking about Greenwood, Oklahoma, which we recognize the decimation

(01:04:28):
of that community this week because it happened, you know
that the one hundred and fourth anniversarial, I think something
like that recently. Yet the living survivors, the people that
are sealed here, that live through that massacre, have not
received an ounce of recompensation for what they've lost, but
what they went through. However, had that been any other community,
we know that they have gotten their payback. They have

(01:04:50):
gotten paid for what was taken from them and the
loss they've suffered. So that to me completely obliterates any
argument anyone king like Kith Randall from Jeordia could say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
And when you're.

Speaker 13 (01:05:03):
Also looking at the facts of what we're old that
the money that our government is giving to the multi
billionaire Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
It's our money. This is our money.

Speaker 13 (01:05:15):
We black people in the black community living in black
neighborhoods pay taxes. The money the government is giving away
is our money. We are old our fair share, and
our businesses, our companies or organizations are farmers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
They all deserve their stake.

Speaker 13 (01:05:31):
And what we're living through is a government doing all
they can to take that away, make us believe that
we have earned, or that what we should be getting
is not owe to us because it's di when in reality,
it's what we should have been getting all along, because
every single American should have the exact same opportunities, but
we're the Americans that have been denied those opportunities. Broll on,

(01:05:53):
so I can think about when you let out the law.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
I just it, Andrew being crazy when I hear this crap,
because again it's tickling the ears of people, and they go, yeah,
that's right, that's right, he right. See do forself. We
don't need them. We could do it ourselves. We could

(01:06:17):
do it ourselves. And I'm not saying don't build. I'm
not saying that we don't. My parents were co finals
of a civic group, civic club where it was about
how do we change the dynamics of our community, and
they came together and they picked up, trashed and did
those things. But Andrew, you know what they also did.

(01:06:40):
They understood the role of government. They said, man, how
do we get rid of these abandoned houses. They couldn't
just go there and tear them down because somebody owned it. Andrew,
that was a legal process. Well, in order to get
this abandoned home torn down, you have to file this
paperwork and then it has to be condemned as a

(01:07:02):
certain period of time. You must wait, know, tofy the
owner that then don't respond. Then you can begin demolition
demolition proceedings, you know what. They said, Okay, cool, that's file.
Then it was like, okay, this this this house, they
got overgrown a lot, it's got rats and it's all
kinds of other stuff. It's how do we deal with that?

(01:07:23):
That was government? Oh I'm sorry, I grew up in
Clinton Park. It's in Houston. They were like, it was
Clinton Park Civic Club. And they said, hey, you know what,
crime is an issue. We need stepped up police patrols.
You know what they did, Andrew, Okay, all right, well
who's over this area? Well, guess what, there's a commander

(01:07:43):
who was over the area. What Clinton Park is So
that was Clinton Park, that was uh, that was across
the way. Uh, that was another neighbor, another black neighbors,
all black neighbors, Clinton Park, Clinton Drive, all these areas
right here. Who was a commander? Okay, we're gonna go
the commander, not the police chief, not assist the police chief,
but the commander over the area. Direct relationship. Police department

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is government. That's what that is. And so when I listen,
the reason I laugh because the school King Randall got,
he got from the school district. There's government. He had
to do an agreement because he came on this show
claiming he had the school, and the school superintendent released

(01:08:30):
the statement saying he's lying on TV. He does not
have an agreement. So even when he got his school,
he had to go, he had to petition government to
turn the former school over to him because they own
the property. So folk need to understand when they're saying
silly shit like this here, we don't need government. We

(01:08:51):
don't need government. There is nothing in America. There's nothing
in America that government does not play a role. Even hell,
if y'all think I'm lying, Andrew, let you talk on
this one right here. Trump and Bed y'all. I'm about

(01:09:15):
to mess y'all up this fool who is sitting in
the Oval office for all of y'all people, for all
y'all simple signings, who are telling me I don't know.
You don't know what you're talking about. Your government, if
you own it, if it's private, government can't tell you nothing.

(01:09:38):
Government can't tell you nothing. Really, Hm, let me pull
this up for all of you who don't seem to
understand that. Oh my goodness, look at this headline. Trump's
Bedminster golf Club flagged for eight teen health violations in

(01:10:02):
latest inspection, earned lowest grade in county. See Andrew. What
that means is when you read the story, Donald Trump's
golf club received a thirty two out of one hundred
health inspection to score in May. There were eighteen violations,

(01:10:23):
including all three requirements in the quote food protected from
contamination category. Hmm, look at this here, it said. They
were violations including expired milk, raw meat stored in properly,
and a dishwater that may not reach the required temperature.
The inspector also cited four separate handwashing violations, including sinks

(01:10:48):
without soap or paper towels, one lacking a required sign
and another used to store a sanitizer bucket. This is
from forest. Huh. So you could occupy the Oval office,
own a private country club, and you steal must abide

(01:11:10):
by government health standards. So the government health inspector came
in and slapped Trump's private golf club with health code violations. Andrew,
please tell me again how government has no role.

Speaker 14 (01:11:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that the dissconnect
between our people and the government also comes and sends
all the way back to public housing. If you think
about that great experiment where the government said I'm gonna,
you know, build buildings, and I'm going to give you
at least some kind of basic standard of living. Right,

(01:11:55):
I'm going to give that to you. And the thought
and the notion and the connotation and around that was
that somehow we were being given something, and it was
to us, as black people being given something. We've always
been told that's just not the way to do things.
You have to earn it, even though like you're saying,
thirty eight you know, billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Wait, wait, Andrew, here's the problem is right here, This
is the problem, Andrew, what you just described. This is
why is the problem. But to my iPad, Andrew, they
call it low income housing tax credit. So that's the problem, Andrew.
See it's for them, it's for them drug people, it's
them low income, it's some low income people. That's because
it's called low income housing tax credit. Finish your point,

(01:12:40):
and I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna show folk what
happens when it ain't low income housing. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
And exactly, Roland.

Speaker 14 (01:12:48):
So for us, whenever we're getting something like welfare or
food food snap benefits, is always seeing as this is
a we're giving this to you so that because we
feel like you need it. And the difference I think
you're about to talk about that is in the phrasing.
And we as the people, we have to start looking

(01:13:11):
at that phrasing and using the government. The subsidies are there,
the money is there. We have to start using this
money to our advantage. And it starts at the polls.
We can't get these things done without having the right
people in our local government, in our state government, and
in our federal government government.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
And so for folk who don't understand what I'm saying
right now, what then happens is and you see the
story right here from the Pew Charitable Trust. It says
how states can design effective incentive to spur office to
residential conversions. This is one of the many stories. So
I need everybody watching when y'all see these stories. A

(01:13:52):
new development. It's coming to Washington, d C. It's coming
to Houston, it's coming to Dallas, it's coming to Charlotte,
it's coming to Atlanta. Uh and oh my goodness, what's
gonna happen is they're gonna come in. You know what
they're gonna do. They're gonna build. They're gonna build an amphitheater,
and they're gonna build new affordable housing, and they're gonna
have shops, they're gonna have downtown parks. All these different things, y'all.

(01:14:15):
Those are tax incentives. It's welfare, it's subsidies. And then
what they do is they create what's called a tax
increment financing district. It's called a tiff. Now what a
tiff is so that the means is we established a
zone around an area and then everything is located in
that tax increment finance district. When they pay their taxes,

(01:14:38):
it doesn't go to the city's use. It stays in
the area. The tiff. The tiff TIFFs in America. Well,
the tiff then thus the tiff then funds the various
things in that particular area. The tiff then funds right,

(01:15:00):
the tiff then funds boom right here. This is from
the US Department Federal Highway Transportation. Tax increment financing is
a value capture revenue to that uses taxes on future
gains and real estate values to pay for new infrastructure improvements.
Let me go ahead and make that plan, as Joe
or the late Joe Madison say, put it what a
ghost can get it. When you pay your taxes, it

(01:15:23):
doesn't go to the city. The taxes stays in the tiff,
and that funds road improvements, policing, sere lights. So your
tax money is only funding the things in the tax
increment finance district. That's also called corporate welfare, that's called subsidies.

(01:15:47):
That's a government creation. So imagine imagine if a King
Randall and the Reschites black Maga, I call the help.
Imagine if they did what I just did. Gave a
thirty plus minute history lesson on how white America has

(01:16:13):
always used government to rebuild their neighborhoods, rebuild their cities,
rebuild states and rebuild America. Who does that? Nonprofits, corporate America,
small businesses, that's what they do. Restaurant associations, engineer y'all.

(01:16:40):
It's happening. But just like we are, the only people
who listen to people tell us not to vote. Can
y'all please show me the last time you had so
called white leaders tell white people your vote don't mean nothing,
Your vote don't make a difference. Can y'all please please,

(01:17:02):
by all means show me the video, Please show me
where that happens, because they don't. Now, you might say,
we haven't gotten enough for our vote. True, does it
mean you don't vote? No, that's stupid, that's literally neighborhood suicide.

(01:17:24):
What you then do, though, is you take your vote
and you wrap it around a power dynamic and you
wield it like a book, like a billy club, and
you say and you go color purple. Until you do
right by us, you will not win, y'all. I'm trying

(01:17:47):
to tell y'all to understand the game. Every community corporations,
they're looking to government to finance all that they're doing,
their future investment, their employees, their expansion. And we got

(01:18:08):
black folks telling us don't look to them, don't count
on them, And y'all I've said it as well. You've
never heard me say don't if you were a city,
don't negotiate the Trump administration. You damn right you should
because you are a taxpayer. And y'a've heard me say,

(01:18:30):
I don't care if your mayor or your council member,
or your state legislator or your state senator or your governor,
if they Republican and you didn't vote Republican, You're still
a constituent. You should be demanding something because you are
a damn taxpayer, and you and your neighborhood and your

(01:18:51):
blocking your street, your community deserves the same access to city, state,
and federal dollars any other neighborhood. I'll be right back
side of change.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
In mass incarceration.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how it
is profitable.

Speaker 16 (01:19:15):
And there's something really really perverse about saying that we
need to put people in cages in order for other
people to have jobs Like that is not how our
economy should be built.

Speaker 8 (01:19:23):
Only on the other side of change on the Blackstar.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
Network, Hello, I'm a Ris and Mitchell a new thing
at my side.

Speaker 15 (01:19:35):
DC.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Hey, what's up with Sammy Roman?

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
And you are watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
All y'all, I wasn't planning to do all that. That
was not literally, none of that stuff was on the
damn agenda. Thank god we only had one guest the
whole show because none of that was playing. Now, y'all
understand Caroll talking about messed up my show? I don't know. Listen,
I'm gonna tell y'all what I told the people that

(01:20:30):
TV one and with the people on the show right here.
You supposed to do your job. You're supposed to write scripts,
you supposed to get the video ready, all that stuff. Now,
when that red light, normally it's the red light, called
it tally light, but we don't have a red light.
But normally when that red light come on, then it's
my time. So I take the show wherever the spirit
moves me. And that's what that was. And so if

(01:20:54):
you wrote, if you wrote a nice little script, that's cute,
you did your job. You're gonna get paid for it.
But I am on the new obligation to read that shit.
Just letting y'all know how this show goes all right, Andrew, Andrew,
I'm telling you, I'm just straight up Andrew exactly like
damn did he go there? Listen, listen when that when

(01:21:14):
the show starts, everything that you wrote is optional. It
is not guaranteed I'm gonna get to it. So that's
just how things work on this show. All right, y'all,
I'm gonna tell you had another rough down Capitol Hill.
That dumb ass Linda bick Man. Y'all know, she the
educating Secretary. Her ass came from a WWE. This is
what happens when you get a wrestling person and you

(01:21:36):
put their ass over the education department. So she got
her ass lit up today in the House Education and
Workforce Committee. When comes from a summer lead of Pennsylvania,
you lit her ass up on the crackdown a so
called illegal DEI programs. Roll this shit.

Speaker 17 (01:21:51):
I think that in very many ways, we've been talking
around a lot of the issues with this administration. So
to be honest and to be very clear, I want
to say that this is administration has undoubtedly revived the
culture of racism.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
We haven't seen since the Jim Crow era.

Speaker 17 (01:22:05):
They've made it clear that open attacks on black and
brown and other marginalized communities is not just tolerated, but
it's encouraged. So when they call for removing of equity
and inclusion and diversity and accessibility from schools in favor
of quote unquote traditional American values, it's indistinguishable from post war,
post Civil War self advocating to a right history with

(01:22:26):
the loss caused narrative to since or truth about slavery
are as they disappear students who write the Center op ads.
It's reminiscent of the suppression of abolitionist newspapers, and this
Apartment's financial aid policies harken back to a time when
higher education was reserved for affluent, well connected, and predominantly
white students. So I have a question, some questions, excuse

(01:22:46):
me about why this department.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Is taking its leads from Jim Crow.

Speaker 17 (01:22:51):
Secretary McMahon, you've claimed that you want to drastically reduce
the already very small federal role and education and also
that you will not cut Title one A funding.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
That is still your position. Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Thank you? I'd like a yes or no answer.

Speaker 17 (01:23:06):
Do you believe your April third attempt to revoke Title
one A funding from states unless a signed unless they
signed a certification of compliance with your political viewpoint. What's
consistent with giving states more control over education?

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
There's been no reduction in funding for a Title one A.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
As of now, there has not been yet, but.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Again and it is not going forward in the budget, so.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
You believe that that's so you do? Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:23:34):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Or no?

Speaker 17 (01:23:34):
Is Title one A funding actually secure for every school,
district and state that currently receives it? Or is your
goal to make Title one A conditional on states refusing
to provide students of color, LGBTQA, students, students with disabilities,
or other marginalized students opportunities to participate in diverse, inclusive,
EQUID one accessible learning environments.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
No, that's what I answered. One A funding is intec.

Speaker 17 (01:23:56):
So let's talk about so called illegal DEI as you
all have called it, a phrase you continually bring up
that I'm still unclear on, especially after three federal judges
have preliminarily ruled that your illegal DEI guidance is likely
on constitutional and unenforceable illegal as it were. Secretary mcmahonding
your Conftion hearing, you were asked by Senator Chris Murphy

(01:24:18):
if an African American history class violated the administration's position
on diversity, equity and inclusion.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
You said you'd like to look into it.

Speaker 17 (01:24:24):
You've been on the job for a few minutes months now,
have you been able to look into it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
I do not think that African studies or Middle East
studies or Chinese studies are part of DEI if they
are taught as part of the total history package, so
that if you're giving the facts on both sides, of
course they're not DEI.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
I don't know what both sides of African American history.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Would be well if African American history is part of part.

Speaker 17 (01:24:49):
Certainly, But what we recognize throughout public as, what we
recognize throughout education is that of course is only one
year or one semester. It would be impossible to teach
African history and say European history at the same time. Agreed,
And it makes sense that there would be separate courses
for these courses of study, and has happened throughout history.
We're able to do it, not just in history courses.
We're able to do it with different types of literature

(01:25:10):
courses or different types of music courses. One won't learn
one wouldn't learn about baroque music, and it necessarily have
to also learn about African drumming at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Right we can separate those courses.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Yes, we can, and I think just as we teach
you this history is a separate course.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Certainly, so you do not agree.

Speaker 17 (01:25:24):
So you do agree that African American culture is and
African history should not be eliminated from courses, particularly ap
African history.

Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
Well, I think that African history can certainly be taught
and not be considered a DEI course.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 17 (01:25:35):
I have a few other examples that I would like
to your thoughts on, simple yes or no? If this
is a illegal DEI, good example, would you say that
it would be an illegal DEI for a lesson plan
on the Tulsa Race massacre?

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
I'd have to get back to you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Do you know what the Tulsa Race massacre is?

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
I like to look into it more and get back
to you on it.

Speaker 17 (01:25:55):
Okay, So I look forward to that. How about the
book Through My Eyes Boubees, for.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Instance, I haven't read that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Have you learned about Ruby Ridges?

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
If you have specific examples you like that was a
specific example, I'll be very happy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
It was an incredibly specific temple.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Answer your questions and I will look into it and
get back to you.

Speaker 17 (01:26:16):
How about the school having a voluntary celebration for Pride Month, Well,
I think that voluntary.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Well, let's make sure that in our schools. Yes or no,
we're looking. No, it's not okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
How about social.

Speaker 17 (01:26:30):
Study standards that teach that President Biden won the twenty
twenty election.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
I think our school our studies should all be taught accurately.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Yes or no?

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
I think our studies no?

Speaker 15 (01:26:41):
No, no.

Speaker 17 (01:26:41):
The question was, do you believe that social study standards
that teach that President Biden won the twenty twenty election
is an illegal DEI?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yes or no?

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
I think I have said we should teach accurately. We
should know.

Speaker 17 (01:26:52):
You have not answered the question. I don't understand why
you're incapable of it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
You're not giving you the answer you want.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
No, I want the answer whatever your answer is.

Speaker 18 (01:27:00):
I just gave you the No.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
The answer is yes or no.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
The answer is yes or no. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
You go back. Yeah, Dann will she'll know who Ruby
Bridges is. She don't know about Tulsa. How illiterate as
But it got better then, Congress. When Johanna Hayes, a
Connecticut want to end on the fund in my job.

(01:27:28):
Johanna Hayes is a former teacher National Teacher of the
Year roll that's hit.

Speaker 9 (01:27:35):
It's interesting. I took a lot of notes, I had
prepared questions, but I think I'm going in a very
different direction. We've heard other colleagues talk about the NAPE scores,
and I heard you say that the President was angered
and embarrassed by these and I think we all should be.
But when you disaggregate those scores, they clearly show that
low income students score significantly lower than their white and

(01:27:56):
higher income peers, and that is mostly in part to
ago disparities in educational access and quality, which makes much
of what I'm hearing today that much more relevant. You
mentioned Connecticut. We both come from the state of Connecticut.
Connecticut relies on property taxes to fund education, and we

(01:28:16):
have one of the largest income gaps in the nation,
which means, by design or default, low income students face
multiple challenges, including limited access to resources and opportunities outside
of schools, which is why I don't understand many of
the decisions made in this budget. One of my colleagues
asked about collecting data on family composition and background. The

(01:28:38):
Department of Education Office of Civil Rights is mandated by
law to do that. I was pleased to hear you
say that states do not I mean the federal the
Department of Education does not control curriculum, instruction, instructional materials,
the teachers that are hired, which makes your words contradictory
because every argument you have is to put local control

(01:29:00):
back into the states. But states already have local control,
as anyone who has any knowledge or background of education
would already know, the role of the Department of Education
would be the civil rights enforcements of those local controls,
which again the irony of this budget zeroing out American
history and civic education programs when you couldn't even answer

(01:29:23):
a question about Ruby Bridges or the election of President Biden,
which are as basic as it gets. So I really
really don't understand it, But you are making the argument
for me because when you respond to questions from my
colleagues by saying that sounds like an issue for state legislatures.
That is why the Office of Civil Rights is necessary,

(01:29:45):
because state legislatures made the decision that Ruby Bridges did
not have the right to a free and appropriate, high
quality public education. So you, Madam Secretary, are actually making
the argument for the role the department not to dictate
local curriculum, instruction, or instructional materials, but to make sure

(01:30:07):
that those things are carried out by the department. I
mean that states follow the law that they are doing
those things. So forty nine million children in this country
receive public education services. About three million children are in
charter schools. There are not enough charter school slots, so
my questions are mainly focused on what about those other

(01:30:29):
forty six million children? So I'm gonna I mean, it's
mind blowing. I hear you talk about safety, keeping students
safe on school campuses, but not a word about the
three hundred and ninety thousand students who have been affected
by gun violence. I was in the classroom on the
day Sandy Hook happened, and the federal government came in
with almost two million dollars to rebuild that community and

(01:30:52):
provide programs for the surrounding communities. In your opening, I
heard you mentioned student athletes and LGBTQS students twice, not
one word, and even when my colleague asked you if
you thought it was a public health crisis. You can't
answer questions that affect the majority of students, so I'm
not really sure. I mean, I try to. I am

(01:31:14):
an educator by nature. I try to be supportive of
what the Department of Education does because I need for
you to succeed, for my students to succeed. But when
you come in and say your final mission is to
eliminate the department, it says to me that the forty
six million children that are not receiving.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Services do not matter.

Speaker 9 (01:31:32):
I've ran out most of my time, but this bill
defunds literacy programs, eliminates twenty first century community learning center,
eliminates preschool grants for children with disabilities, eliminates reduce this
funding for career and technical education. Like all of these things.
I'm going to ask you two really quick questions. Do

(01:31:54):
you think that Holocaust education in our schools is a
DEI program? There's no card for that, just yes or no.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
I can look at it, whatever cardial.

Speaker 9 (01:32:03):
Holocaust education is it a d You can have a
press conference to say whatever you want. I just need
a quick answer to this is holocaust because this is
my time. Is Holocaust education a DEI program? No is
African American studies a DEI program, think, I answered, I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
It again, just or no, we should be able to teach.

Speaker 9 (01:32:24):
My point is they are DEI programs, both of them,
because students need diversity, equity, and inclusion to understand their environments.
So both Holocaust education and the teaching of African American
history are important, which is why the state of Connecticut
requires it in our social studies curriculum. You're talking out
of both sides of your mouth. You can't support one

(01:32:45):
without supporting the other and looking at what happens in
the schools and actually deferring to teachers, parents who are
on curriculum committees, local boards of education, and states who
actually do the hard work listening to what they say,
it would be incredibly helpful.

Speaker 8 (01:33:04):
Time to move on.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
I recognize if this was the early nineties, somebody got
entered that great.

Speaker 13 (01:33:28):
Roland that I am a proud educator and I'm so
proud of Representative Hayes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
That was a beautiful breakdown.

Speaker 13 (01:33:38):
And not only it was a beautiful breakdown, it was
an amazing case for why diversity, ecrean inclusion is a
cornerstone of American education, so that all students have windows
into other worlds and mirrors to look back at themselves.
I was, I'm sitting here still kind of like speechless

(01:33:59):
at how beautiful represent Ofhsee made that case, and also
a little bit dumbfounded that secretary. You know, our secretary
of education was a little bit dumbfounded too in what
she does not know and what information now she isn't
carrying within herself. Had she perhaps had a more well
rounded education, she would know about Rubert Rigis, and she

(01:34:21):
perhaps had a more well rounded education that included black
brown people, that included the true information about Nazism and
the Holocaust and Holocaust of vibors, maybe she would have
been able to answer some of those questions that were presented,
and she would know about Tulsa and Greenwood and the
atrocities that have happened to American citizens on American soil

(01:34:42):
that don't look like her, and that don't come from
our social economic class, and that don't come from her
economic background.

Speaker 14 (01:34:48):
Andrew, Yeah, I mean, you know, the sad part is
is that we're dealing with an educational system that we're
going to have to deal with over the next fifteen years.
What she does over the next four years is going
to have such a huge reverb for the next generation

(01:35:11):
that it's it's just mind blowing. And the fact that
she gets up there and she doesn't even really have
much of a history lesson before. Right, No one can
pass her a no card and say, oh, Rubie Bridges,
remember you know dese segregation.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
I mean the.

Speaker 14 (01:35:29):
Goal that she's going into these meetings unprepared, and it's
just okay, because that's what we're expecting from this administration
and all of the heads of agencies, is to go
into these meetings in congressman to have absolutely no idea
to fall back on. Well, I'll get back to the
old I'm going back to you later, and you know,
we'll figure we never get back to them, We never

(01:35:51):
get an answer, and then we're asked a very simple
question and who won the twenty twenty election, and there's
not even a a direct answer to that. That's the
type of administration that we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Absolutely, folk. If we've talked about, of course these deportations
impacted Jamaica. The Jamaica's Minister of Foreign Affairs and Foreign Trade,
Kamina Johnson Smith, has confirmed that about twenty five hundred
Jamaicans are said to be deported from the US. She
spoke at a news conference of the Office of the
Prime Minister Johnson. Smith dismissed reports claiming that four thousand
Jamaicas will be returned to the island as part of

(01:36:28):
Trump's immigration crackdown.

Speaker 8 (01:36:30):
Ill only to be.

Speaker 19 (01:36:31):
Clear that four thousand Jamaicans are not being returned now.
For some time, it has been in the public domain
that the US authorities had close to four thousand persons
in their records with final orders for deportation against their names.
It is no or understanding that approximately two thousand, five

(01:36:52):
hundred have been confirmed for removal over.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
A period of time. Over a period of time to.

Speaker 19 (01:36:59):
Be the determined by logistics, their own legal processes, and
other factors.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
She and facility deportations are not a new development and
reaffirms the government's commit into upholding its international obligations or
ensuring national security and public safety. She also know what
the government has expanded the National Reintegration and Rehabilitation Strategy
to that accordinate support services for returning deportees. We made
this clear that he don't want black people here, Andrew.

(01:37:27):
Let's just be real clear.

Speaker 14 (01:37:30):
Yeah, and as a first generation, making myself, my family,
My entire family immigrated here from Jamaica to New York,
to Delaware, to Georgia as well. So so now here
you know that these deportations have been happening, and it's
been kind of swept under the rug until you know
it was it made national news for a while. Now

(01:37:53):
is disheartening because the island is really not that big.
So if they're deporting twenty five hundred people back to Jamaica,
even if it's on a yearly basis, that's still a
lot of people that are coming here looking for some
kind of freedom and then being sent back to an

(01:38:14):
island where their living conditions were not great. This brings
me back to the entire thing that's happening with South
American citizens well, because as Jamaicans and my family as well,
you know the accents they don't leave. So if you're
now targeting certain subsets like Jamaican or El Salvadorian, you

(01:38:37):
know you're going to be able to tell just by
listening to a Jamaican who a Jamaican is. There's certain
things that would say like wash cloud. There's certain things
that we say like wash rags. That's going to be
able to identify us. And I don't want my Jamaican
massive to be scared to now go and leave their
home because if they feel like they're going to be
pulled over by police, now, that's going to create even

(01:38:59):
more danger situation for them. So I would like to,
you know, definitely hear more about who is being deported
and what kind of legal process is being followed, because
what we know about this administration is that they don't
care anything about the rule of law, Zachary.

Speaker 13 (01:39:15):
They're ignoring the courts. They are ignoring court orders to
cease and desist with what they're doing and go through
the appropriate and proper channels that have been created by
our government to protect all American citizens. So they're ignoring
that and there's no consequence being faced to it. So
I'm horrified for my friends that are first generation are
who are born in the United States, but who may

(01:39:37):
have an accent, or who may look a certain way,
or who may live in a particular community.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
This when we saw immediately.

Speaker 13 (01:39:45):
Upon Donald Trump becoming the forty seventh president of the
United States, the mass deportations of our Brown brothers and sisters,
I knew that it was only a matter of time
before this would creep out to impact our brothers and
sisters of the African diaspora, and it would then hard
and heavy against those communities. And then again, we start

(01:40:08):
with our brown brothers, then we're gonna go to our
black brothers and of the diaspora. Then they're gonna come for us,
and we are the ultimate target all along, and.

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
We need more black people to see that.

Speaker 13 (01:40:18):
I also wish that more black people, more of your watchers,
more of your viewers, to understand the interconnected nature of
the black dollar and the black economy, which has been
a big focus of this show. In regards to our
brothers who are Jamaican, all of our businesses, we are
all interdependent on each other. I eat at a Jamaican
restaurant at least once a week. I eat at a

(01:40:39):
Jamaican restaurant. Once we got used my black dollars to
support those black businesses so they can speak their black
families too. We're all interconnected. What's happening to them is
also happening to us, and we have to fight against
it now to protect and save them, so we can
protect and save ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
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This week.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
On the other side of chain mass incarceration, Trump administration
is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable.

Speaker 16 (01:41:54):
And there's something really really perverse about saying that we
need to put people in cages in order for us
other people to have jobs like that is not how
our economy should be built.

Speaker 20 (01:42:03):
Only on the other side of change.

Speaker 21 (01:42:05):
On the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 10 (01:42:11):
You're doing my name is Luck KERRT and you're watching
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Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
We're getting deep.

Speaker 8 (01:42:23):
You want to turn that shit off. We're doing an
interview with mother fucker.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Well. Reality TV started tiring Julie christ Lely known for
their show Chrisly Knows Best. You know, those tac sheets
were released from prison after Trump grant can a full pardon.
They only have to pay the money back. They begin
serving a twelve and seven year sentence for bank fraud
and tax evasion committed to that defrauding banks more than
thirty six million defund their lavish lifestyle. There was no
shock that Trump will pardon them because he did the

(01:42:54):
same thing. Trump's partons are Alshabrie Johnson actually one on
the Fox News defending the decision, arguing they were victims
of weaponized a weaponized justice system and got overly hard
cities listened to this bullshit. They're so little pardon.

Speaker 21 (01:43:09):
But the reason the Chrystlies are making the news is
they had that reality show. Chrisly knows best. They're very famous.
A lot of people around the country watch that show,
and their attorneys says that they were targeted for their
political views. Their daughters spoke at the RNC Savannah but
she was sentenced to seven years in a prison in
Kentucky and he was sentenced to twelve years in a

(01:43:30):
prison in Pensacola, Florida. Seems like a long time for
tax evasion. They didn't pay their taxes for three years
and they used some bait. They're charged with using fake
bank statements to get loans for luxury items.

Speaker 18 (01:43:42):
And then after they get the reality show and they're
buried in debt, they hid money from the irs and
that's what a jury decided. They both get twelve and
seven years.

Speaker 21 (01:43:53):
I was talking to Emily Companya yesterday on Outnumbered, and
she said, as a lawyer, she said, if you're caught
with tax evasion, she said, usually they offer a plea deal.
You go to prison for X amount and like a
minimum security and.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
They have to pay it back.

Speaker 21 (01:44:07):
But she said, I'm wondering if they went to court,
and I don't know the answer to that. If they did, Okay,
so she says, usually in those situations, if you have
a trial, you're going to get slapped with a huge sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
They got it. Also, their accounting went to jail too.

Speaker 20 (01:44:19):
I just think there's a thing with this president when
he feels like people are being overcharged and the punishment
is too severe. I mean, you just got to look
in contrast, you got some violent criminals that have committed
rape and murder that are back on the street, and
then you have people for taxes, a non violent offense

(01:44:39):
that are locked up for almost twenty years.

Speaker 18 (01:44:43):
So when you looked at their background, you see the
fact that they did seem to hide money from the irs.
They were buried in debt to fraud banks. You're not
saying that didn't happen. You just say they're overly charged.

Speaker 12 (01:44:56):
They were definitely overly charged. Well that going into all
of the elements. So this case and this trial, which
if we had more time to talk about it, I'd
be able to tell you all the horrific things that
happened in their case. But they will certainly over a sentence,
and for that looking at them, they don't pose a
risk to society. In fact, I know that they're going

(01:45:17):
to use their voices to end their platform to uplift
the president's agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
And that right there is what their goal was, to
uplift Trump's agenda. Alice Marie Johnson should be ashamed of
herself for what she just said. There. These people are
tax cheats, That's what they are. Tax cheats. Oh, we

(01:45:43):
uncover things that were shameful. No, they were prosecuted, Okay,
Alixe Marie Johnson. Where's the partner for Wesley Snipes who
served his full prison sentence. Where's the party for Ronald
Eisley who served his prison sentence. Both of them were
convicted for tax evasion, y'all, tax evasion. These folks didn't

(01:46:08):
evade taxes. They literally cheated. They literally defrauded banks. And
with Alice Marie Johnson, she wants them coming out and
singing the praises and oh my god, Trump is great.
Trump is wonderful, His policies are wonderful. And oh these
sentences were overly harsh. Cheats, they broke the law. Oh

(01:46:35):
I thought y'all were the party of law and order
in house laws. B Jones is a joke who committed
rape and murder, who didn't get this much time name them,
name them lines. Come on, don't throw the bullshit out there.
We're supposed to go ahead, accept it. People are despicable.

(01:46:55):
They will defend anything. Trump is a tax cheat himself.
He's a convicted felon. He deserved it. And these people,
they deserve to go to prison. And you know what
Trump has done. He's let out numerous people. And he see,
here's an old deal, y'all. He doesn't have to give
full pardons. He could commute sentences and still require them

(01:47:19):
to pay the money back. No full parton. That wipees
clean all these people. That Florida god rich guy who
used the money to buy himself a boat and as
Mama turned around and give a million dollars to a
Trump fundraiser. Trump's like, oh yeah, let him out. People

(01:47:41):
are despicable, they're shameful. And I can guarantee you, Andrew
can guarantee you. Joe Biden did this, Obama did this,
Lawrence Jones, Fox News. They will be losing their minds
if that happened.

Speaker 14 (01:47:59):
Yeah, I mean right now, what we're looking at is
that the privilege is alive and well because there are
so many people that have been either convicted that are
innocent or harshly sentenced that need to be in front
of the chrystlies.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
Let's be honest with that.

Speaker 14 (01:48:17):
And we really shouldn't be surprised about the pardons. Remember
this was the same president that within a month of
taking office, he released two hundred and eleven violent criminals from.

Speaker 6 (01:48:33):
The DC jails and just let them out on the sheets.

Speaker 14 (01:48:37):
So we really shouldn't be surprised that now anyone that
aligns themselves with Trump, we're gonna see a lot of
Trump signs in the prisons now right. Anyone that aligns
themselves with Trump are now gonna get a chance at freedom.
And the Trump administration is sending that message that if
you stand up and you stand for what we believe in,
even if it's against your own personal interests, that we

(01:49:00):
are going to reward you by making sure that you
can be untouched.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Zachary.

Speaker 13 (01:49:08):
The only thing that I just saw, because I do
not watch Fox News, so I was sitting there again dumbfounded,
and how they were conflating and twisting and word maneuvering
this situation to make it seem as those these people
deserve freedom after what they've done. The only thing that
the attorney in the beautiful pink and that's all I
can say. I don't know her name. She was a

(01:49:30):
beautiful pink outfit. She looked great. The only thing that
she said that in any way I can agree with
is that this man poses no threat. Tied Christy clearly
couldn't hurt a flute fruit fly. I look at him
and I can clearly see this man could not hurt
a fruit fly. However, he did indeed hurt banks with
what he did. This man literally they didn't only defraud,

(01:49:50):
they attempt to defraudt the irs. They not only did
tax evasion, but they also could have taken a plea agreement.
They could have gotten the minimal you're ready, and all
of that. They chose to go to trial and waste
money and government resources knowing that they had done this,
and they also tried to hide this, and then they
tried to hide money, and you know, in addition to it,

(01:50:12):
so it was crime on top of crime on top
of crime. And now to see that commuter and then
what adds insult to injury Bill Barr. Under Donald Trump's direction,
they were the people that indicted the Chris Les. Donald
Trump's administration anddicted the Chris Leeds.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
You can't make this make sense, right, Like, who y'all
blaming your own Apartment of Justice? I told y'all's people idiots.
All right, y'all. Cons Woman Jasmin Crockett, who currently serves
as vice ranking Member of the US House Oversight Committee,
is running forward become the ranking member. Of course, remember
Jerry Connley died he had stepped down. She says, the

(01:50:53):
nation is facing an existential crisis under the current administration
that placed to hold Executive Bredchi accountable. House OVERSIDEMMITEE as
responsible for overseeing the federal government, including the president and
executive branch agencies. The ranking member leads the minority party
on the committee. Crockett joins a growing list of contendents
for the role, including members of Congress Robert Garcia California,
Stephen Lynch of Massachusett, and Quasim Fulmate of Maryland. The

(01:51:15):
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(01:51:35):
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Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
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