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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Today's Wednesday, May fourteen, twenty twenty five, coming up on
Roland Martin on the Filter, the streaming.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Live on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh, talk about bringing the funk on Capitol Hill. They
were going after Ice Barbie, Christy Nome and Nutcase himself
Robert Candy Jr. Wait until we show you what took place. Oh,
it was just way too much fun. Omaha, Nebraska, guess

(00:49):
what got themselves a new mayor a brother first time
in history. We'll talk with the Mary elect about his
historic win. Plus, second day of the Shan Did Comms
trial in Cassie Ventura gives more disturbing testimony about vicious
beatings from Diddy. We'll talk to legal analyst Candice Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Folks that a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Of course, we got crazy ass grifter and chief looking
like a fool in the Middle East. We'll talk about
that as well. It's time to bring the funk. I'm
rolling UK unfiltered on the Black stud Network.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Let's go peacecot.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
It whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
He's got.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
A wenna, believes he's right on top.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
It is rolling best believe he's going from.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Boston news to politics with entertainment.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Just fuckkes, He's.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's strolling.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, he's bunky express, she's real the question, No, he's
rolling mote.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ah. It was favoring the funk House on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
First up, Health Human Service Secretary Robert Kenny, Junior Boy
Congresswoman Bonnie Coleman Watson lay in his ass when it
comes to his agency, roll it.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
It's the secretary.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
Few things enrage me more than the racist attacks I
see this administration carrying out by embarking on an ignorant
crusade to rid the government of any programs that are
working to improve the lives of Black Americans. The administration
has moved to ban the words black, race, bias, minority oppression, prejudice, discrimination, disparity,

(03:00):
and racism. Any grand application on federal programs that include
these words had them immediately stripped. It is painfully clear
to me that this, in doing this, this administration that
you work with and work for, is attempting to legitimize
racial discrimination, and that, Sir, is a moral disgrace. It

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is not woke to improve the health and well being
of black people, who are despiringly impacted by just about
every health issue. It should not be controversial to make
write a healthcare system that was not built to help

(03:44):
people like me to take my concerns, my pain, my
health very seriously. In this country, black women die from
childbirth complications at a higher rate in this country than
any other high income country. Last year, where there was
overall maternal deaths dropping in this country, will black women

(04:06):
maternal deaths rose? This sickens me, and it tells me
that our government has so much more that we must
do to focus on improving the lives of black women.
Not less, your decision and justifications are damining and troubling,
particularly for destructive impacts your choices and benefits.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Will have on poor minority of people.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
So tell me, sir, how will eliminating minority health offices.
How eliminating initiatives and programs across the department that were
created to look at the disparity in health care and
the need to give greater attention to the fact that

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black folks experience in healthcare was very damaging, was very different?
How exactly will HHS banning the words that we use
to describe ourselves make us healthier?

Speaker 8 (05:10):
Congressman President Trump's vision of this country is the same
as Martin Luther kings that we should have color blind administration.
President Trump is deeply concerned about the maternal health crisis
and the fact at black mothers are more likely to
die in child but point six times un likely to die.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
I mean, excuse me, sir, Let me claim my time,
because I don't need this rhetoric about Donald Trump and
the lie that he cares about me and black people.
What I want to know is the claiming time, sir,
reclaiming it. I want to know, specifically, how do you

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intend to address those disparities and to overcome those disparities
as it relates to black health in this country with
the changes that you decided are important or someone has
decided for you. I don't know with your department specifically, sir.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
I've spent a lifetime working on those priorities and I
continue to do so. We have eight divisions, eight programs
for minority health at AHHS. We've closed one of those offices,
we're maintaining the other seven. We have forty two programs
from maternal health. We're going to close a couple of
them and consolidate them. We're going to still spend one

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point seven billion dollars a year. The commitment is there.
We're just reorganizing.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Okay, you know what the impact of the reorganization is
something that I shall continually ask you to show me.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So please let me.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Warn you now.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I welcome those in and I don't want rhetoric. I
want numbers. The other thing that really he was me, sir,
is lie heat.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
It is a program specifically to address the needs of
low income and minority families as it relates to heating
and even air conditioning.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Why why, why?

Speaker 9 (07:15):
Why?

Speaker 7 (07:17):
And what is your rationale for eliminating that program specifically?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Why? Why why?

Speaker 8 (07:26):
I'm very my brother ran a low.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I don't care about your past.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
I care about your functioning in this department, in this
administration right now in response to.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
This question, my time has expired.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Well, then so has your legitimacy.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I yell back, well, now my panel Rebecca Carroll's executive
vice president, Fair Election Center out of DC me Imbe Carter,
author and Associate Professional, School of Public Policy, University of Maryland.
Also Andrew Clark, managing partner, District Legal Group out of DCLA.
They have all three of you here. Wooh, that was

(08:10):
little fed up there, Rebecca, little fed up there? Okay,
let me don't want to give Rebecca back, Neil, I'm
gonna go to you. I mean, that's what happens when you.
I mean this called like this ass up.

Speaker 9 (08:24):
Listen.

Speaker 10 (08:25):
I think this is the problem that so many of
us have with this administration. I mean, look, Bonnie Coleman
has been around for a very long time. She is
not a dumb woman and not to be trifled with.
And unfortunately we don't see a lot of fire in
the belly like we see from her. And I think
that's why it's so exciting to see, because this is
the kind of congressional oversight we need. I mean, it

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has been clear that in this particular administration that people's
credentials and bona fidies do not matter. And Kennedy was
trying to give a lot of talking points, even invoking
Martin Luther King, who quite frankly, if they had their way,
we wouldn't even be able to talk about him, his name,
or his politics. They want to misrepresent their record, and

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the fact of the matter is these people don't care
about black people, and they certainly don't care about black women.
And so this whole talking point of what we're trying
to do, what we're trying to do you know is
reorganize this consolidate, we want to make a healthcare delivery
better for black women is hogwash. We know they're doing
everything they can to undermine the social supports and the

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social welfare network that could support many black families, black mothers,
particularly those who are low income. And I mean, you know,
everything from firing federal workers where we know a lot of.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Black women are employed or were.

Speaker 10 (09:46):
Employed before this administration, down to Medicaid and Medicare expansion.
These people don't care about Black people. And I think
what congresswomen did, congress Woman Coleman did show was that
these people are just about the talk. The only thing
they care about doing is destroying and lying, quite frankly,

(10:08):
and you know, you have to think about what our
grandmothers told us.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
If you lie, you cheat. If you cheat, you steal,
and if you steal, you kill.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
And these are politics of death these people are dealing in.
I mean, we won't even be testing our milk pretty soon.
This should concern all of us. And I think she
cut to the quick with this one.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Today, Rebecca. I mean, listen, this is what needs to happen,
how they must.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Be challenged.

Speaker 11 (10:32):
Absolutely, because here's the bottom line, if this administration cared
about the health and well being of black people, then
they would do what it takes to increase the number
of black health care workers, specifically black doctors in this country. Today,
they will not have went after and decided to investigate
so scholarships in Ohio now looks to diversify the medical industry.

Speaker 12 (10:53):
If this, if this administration.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
Really cared about the health and well being and black folks,
then the President would not have the executive order that
looks to change some of the accreditation policies for medical
schools which increase which includes having demographics around diversity to
make sure that there was a diversified.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Pipeline of people of color that's entering.

Speaker 12 (11:16):
Into the medical profession.

Speaker 11 (11:18):
So, you know, pass off to the congresswoman for using
her voice and being forceful. And this is the type
of thing that we need in order to challenge this administration.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, these thugs
are going to do exactly what they're going to do,
and Andrew, they must be pushed product and called out
and challenge at every turn.

Speaker 13 (11:39):
I mean, first off, we're talking about healthcare here. Can
we just address the ELPHA in a room. What is
going on with my man's voice?

Speaker 6 (11:48):
So Rasby, he's.

Speaker 13 (11:50):
Supposed to be the head of the health of hol time,
United States. Somebody get him a cup of tea, Somebody
get him a large a something, because the boy it
just don't sound right now. I mean, I'm not gonna
pretend to know what to do with women's right because
then I'm just gonna be just like him. I leave
that to my esteemed pedalist. But one thing that I
hate when they say when they talk about equality and

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then they trying.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
To bring up Martin Luther King.

Speaker 13 (12:15):
Martin Luther King lived in a time when there was
no equality, and he was trying to at least get
us up on the same pedestal. And what we're talking
about here today is discrimination to try to knock us
down off the pedestal to which we're sitting. So please
stop using mlk's name. And also, please somebody get that

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man a.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
CoFe drop or something.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
No, no, no, somebody get him a new job. All right, y'all,
hold typ one second. Lots more is to break down,
including Ice Barbie boy. They were going at her on
Capitol Hill as well, becoming a nas We're gonna talk
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Speaker 2 (14:37):
Folks Biggie election last night.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Democrat former deputy police chief of Omaha, Nebraska, John Ewing
Junior beat the incumbent Republican mayor Jeans Stalford, who was
seeking her fourth term. Boy talk about a huge, huge win.
Ewing last night said this at his victory celebration.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
I'm John Ewing, your man.

Speaker 17 (15:15):
Before I go forward, with my prepared remarks, I have
to tell you all a story because he's standing right
here in front of me. About thirteen years ago, I
was in the legislative chambers when one of the former
pastors in Omaha, Leroy Adams, told me I was going

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to be the first black mayor of Omaha.

Speaker 18 (15:44):
I then came.

Speaker 19 (15:45):
Down the escalator and Pastor Cedric Perkins, who's standing right
here in front of us, said You're going to be
the first black mayor of Omaha. So with them, within
about two minutes, I heard that from.

Speaker 17 (16:03):
Those two men, and I said, okay, that sounds good,
but I didn't know if I truly embraced it at
that moment. But they said that to me with such
conviction that it stuck with me. And so thank you
for sharing that with me, and thank you for being

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a great friend throughout this whole process.

Speaker 9 (16:28):
Tonight we embark on a new chapter.

Speaker 17 (16:42):
I am deeply honored and humbled to stand before you
today as your mayor elect.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, Mary left you in Jones's right now on Roland
Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Glad to have you on the show. First of congratulations,
thank you very much, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
This is an exciting moment in our city, and we
are on top of the world.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
So I thought, if you look at all these other
mainstream white media shows, they say that the Democrat Party
is dead. How could you a black Democrat beat a
three term incumbent Republican.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
I don't think the Democratic Party is dead. I think
what we need to do is show people that we
are common sense folks who can bring people together and
who can get things done. And that's what I've done
in my forty three year career in Omaha. And that's
what I sold to the people, that we were going
to bring people together. We had a vision of creating

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economic opportunity for everybody in this city, increasing very intentional
economic development in North and South Omaha. And that's what
was the message that helped us win.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Now, this was not the first time you have a
beer of Omaha. Yes it is, Well, this is the
first time. Yes it was, so you previously.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Because in your remarks there you said that's what you
want to say, legislature.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
No, what happened is I was I'm the Douglas County Treasurer,
got it, and I was up in our legislative chambers
for the city council, county board, and all of those organizations.
And I came down from a meeting up there. As
I was leaving, Pastor Leroy Adams made the comment as
I got to the bottom of the escalators to go

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back to my office. Then Pastor Cedric Perkins made the
comment to me as well. So I've been the Douglas
County treasurer. This is my nineteenth year, and I'm actually
the first African American to win a county wide election
in Nebraska as well.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
So so with that, what would you say to other Democrats?
Are the black Democrats who were running, whether it's mayor
for state rep, state Senate. You know, because when you
look at these polls, oh my god, the Democratic brand
is so awful.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
It is so bad.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yet when you look at especially election in Pennsylvania one
in Iowa, when you look at other ones, you see
wins taking place. What do you say to people who
when they hear that, oh my god, the party is rudderless,
has no leadership.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
What do you say it to that?

Speaker 9 (19:26):
I think you have to be your own individual first,
and then I think secondly, you have to show the
people what you stand for and the fact that you
are going to partner with them. One of the things
I showed the people in Omaha is the chaos that
is happening in Washington, DC. And I compared that to
my leadership style and how I was going to lead

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this city, and that resonated with people across political aisles, Democrats, Republicans, independents.
People want good govern and that's what Democrats have to deliver.
We have to impact people's quality of life.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And when you look at your focus, what is your
primary focus when you are sworn in and you become
the mayor of Omaha, I.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
Want to do intentional economic development. That was my number
one thing that I talked to the people of this
community about. We have an urban core plan that primarily
impacts downtown Omaha, Nebraska. I want to spread that to
the North Omaha community, which is primarily black folks, and

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then into the South Omaha community, which has a large
contingent of Latino members of our community, so that they
can take part in the economic development in this city
and the opportunities in this city. Omaha is ranked highly
by places like Forbes magazine as the number one place

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to live. Well, I want us to be the number
one place for everybody.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You're a definity police chief. Yes, And what often happens
is when public safety is an issue, a lot of
Democrats try to run as hardcore as they can because
of this notion that Democrats are soft on crime. How
do you make the argument, though, as somebody who served

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in that capacity now will be the mayor, that there
has to be balancing act when a lot of these
cities are spending fifty and sixty percent or even more
of their city budget on police and fire.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
I think we have to have a balance, as you're saying,
and I think one of the things I wanted to
make sure the people of this community understood is that
I do want to increase the staffing because we're about
one hundred and thirty officers short. But I don't want
to do that so we're heavy on crime, and we're
writing more tickets and all of those things. What I

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want to do is get omahall police officers the opportunity
to be able to do community policing and be able
to partner with their community and be able to help
their community address the issues as they see them, not
just as the police department sees them. And one of

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the things I point to is. I was co chair
of the Crime Prevention Covenant here in Omaha when we
started an effort called the Empowerment Network. We were able
to reduce gun violence by partnering with the community about
seventy percent. And we are one of four model communities
because of that, as designated by President Barack Obama's Foundation.

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So it's really about partnering with the people of this
community and doing policing with them. And so the people
of this community understand my experience in police and they
understand how I want policing to be in this city.
We're partners, not people who are doing policing.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
To you questions from my panel, Niambi your first.

Speaker 10 (23:14):
So congratulations, very like you and thank you huge. So
can you talk a little bit about how you approach
these local communities because I can imagine this is not
something that can be handled by, you know, consultants and
others outside of Omaha. This had to be a very local,
very hands on approach. Can you talk a little bit
about your approach to your campaign.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
Sure. So the first thing is I've been in public
service in this community for forty three years, first as
a member of the Omaha Police Department, and then the
last eighteen and a half years as Douglas County Treasurer.
But I've also been heavily involved in community service, having
served on about seventy boards. So I think one of

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the things you have to do is you have to
know your commune unity and you have to know your people.
So everything we did with the campaign was local people
who also knew the city, but they understood politics and
I understood the city. So we took and combined those
two approaches in order to develop a strategy that would

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help us win in the primary. As an example, we
had significantly less money than the two people that everybody
thought were going to go into the general. We spent
about three dollars and sixty six cent a vote, but
I had the name recognition, I had the reputation, and

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then we worked hard. We knocked doors from January to yesterday.
We also did phone calls, we did robo calls. We
did everything we could to reach out to the voters
with our message. And I attended forty or fifty different

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forums and neighborhood community group meetings and was able to
get my message out there. But I think it really
starts with knowing your community.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Thank you, Andrew.

Speaker 13 (25:16):
Yes, so the first thing I know that is on
everyone's mind. First, congratulations to you. Are you related to
Patrick Ewing?

Speaker 9 (25:29):
I'm sorry I didn't quite catch your question. I don't
know if you froze or if not.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
He asked, are you related to Patrick Ewing? He must
be a George He must be a Georgetown Hall or something.

Speaker 9 (25:39):
I used to tell people that when I when I
was younger. But I'm about a foot shorter than he.
And congratulations to you, Mayor.

Speaker 13 (25:50):
If you could just educate us on how how were
you able to overcome twelve years twelve years that's been
previous mayor was in office. How were you able to
overcome that? I know that you talked about what your
election process was like, but what do you think was
the essential message that you had that was different.

Speaker 9 (26:13):
Well, one of the things I try to do, and
I don't think people do enough of it, is I
ran a clean campaign, but I did talk about my
opponent's record and some of the broken promises that were made.
For instance, with the restaurant tax that we had. She

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ran saying that she was going to eliminate it when
she was running for her first term, and we still
have that restaurant tax. So I reminded people of those
type of things as well as we have a streetcar
project that she said was going to go to a vote,
and she did not put it to a vote, so
I reminded people of her record. I think one of

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the things we sometimes do is we don't re main
people of our opponent's record and we let them get
a free pass. I wasn't going to give anybody a
free pass in this election.

Speaker 11 (27:10):
Rebecca John, I got two questions for you.

Speaker 12 (27:14):
The first question so potholes. Last time I was back.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
Home in Omaha, the streets were kind of jacked up.
What is your plan for fixing the potholes in Omaha.

Speaker 9 (27:24):
So one of the things that I do is I
use people that are really smart and experts in their area.
And Rebecca, as you know, being from Omaha. Jim Subtle
was mayor, but he was also public works director, and
so I told Jim Subtle today, I said, Jim, I've

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been talking to people about fixing the potholes. One of
the things you're going to help me do is you're
going to help me develop a plan so we can
let the people know that we are serious about repairing
their streets and then we're going to tell them what
the plan is. So Jim Subtle's he joked with me
and said, man, you're going to put me back to

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work full time. And I said, yes, I am. But
that's what I'm going to do is count on experts.
One of the things I know, also, Rebecca, is that
the city used the wrong type of concrete for their
street repairs for at least the last twelve years. And
I believe that we have to look at substances that

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will hold up to the weather in Omaha, Nebraska when
we have all of the snow, all of the freezing ice,
and all of the thawing and freezing and all of
those things. So that's something I'm going to investigate as well,
looking at what cities that are success for are using
in terms of materials.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
All right, then, well ahead, Rebecca, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (28:53):
One more question now.

Speaker 11 (28:55):
First of all, John, congratulations with you and your steam wife.

Speaker 12 (28:58):
Doctor viv.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
Listening right across from me.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Absolutely, I know she would be so it was historical,
But each time you've run in Omaha, it's been historical
in nature. There are a lot of little black boys
and little black girls who now will know that there
is a black man absolutely, and representation matters. So what
does it mean to you, especially when you're looking in
the eyes of your grandson.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
What it means to me is that people, especially our people,
get to see someone who looks like them in the
most powerful position in this city, and they get to
believe their dreams are possible. When I first became Douglas

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County Treasurer, I went into the schools quite a bit,
and even up until COVID and I would tell young
people there's nothing special about me, but I've been able
to work hard. I've been able to take advantage of
the opportunities, and my dreams have come true. If you
do the same thing, then your dreams are possible as well.

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I was even sharing that message at a program today
honoring eighth grade Honor Roll students, that your dreams are possible.
And that's the message I want them to believe. And
that's what I said in some of my interviews last night,
is that I hope they're watching, I hope they read
about this. And I don't just mean in Omaha, Nebraska,

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I mean across this country. I want our young people
to see that their dreams are possible. That's what my
life has been about. That's what my public service has
been about. When I first became a police officer, one
of the first things I did was I became a
boy Scout leader at Lowthorpe Elementary School, where I went
to elementary school.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
All right, then, all right, well, Mary Lech, I certainly
appreciate it. Thank you so very much for joining us.
When is the inauguration.

Speaker 9 (31:07):
It's going to be on June ninth. And I just
have to say really quickly for those who don't know,
Rebecca was my campaign manager when I ran for Congress
in twenty twelve, and she did an amazing job for me.
I believe she was either the only or one of
only two black women who was a campaign manager during

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that cycle. So I'm proud to see you continuing to
do well.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Also, all right, then, Recca, you're supposed to reveal that
I you can't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I told your producer you supposed to say.

Speaker 12 (31:44):
Okay, So I want to say it.

Speaker 11 (31:45):
It was the closest race in twenty twelve that was
not backed by the Democratic Party, and so part of
the reason why is that John heard this and I
heard this. They didn't think a black man could win
in Nebraska. So I think that story is so powerful
because there are a lot of black folks in this
country who want to run for office and higher office,
but they're told by different folks that you can't do it.

Speaker 12 (32:08):
And so it's very important.

Speaker 11 (32:09):
When you are a strong local leader and you're connected
with community, you will win elections absolutely.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
All right, thank you, all all.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
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Lot, thank you.

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Speaker 2 (34:56):
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
What we're before Capitol Hill today, Let's just say the
shade the pittiness I was fully Therefore.

Speaker 23 (35:11):
I'm glad Secretary Nome is finally testifying before the committee.
After all, it's been three months since I sent you
a letter asking for her to testify on the Trump
administration's dismantling of the Department of Homeland Security and its
harmful effects on communities across the country. Secretary nome I

(35:35):
guessed the Chairman didn't think systematically dismounting the Department of
Homeland Security, firing the federal workers who keep us safe,
and violating the Constitution of the United States justified your
timely appearance before this committee. But when Donald Trump demanded
that Congress hand him money to do more damage to

(35:58):
our homeland security, Republicans bent over backwards to help him
and his billionaire friends at the expense of the American people.
Whatever got you here, Secretary of nome I'm glad you
found time among your many photo ops and costume changes
to testify about why President Trump is seeking more taxpayer

(36:22):
dollars and what you plan to do with that money
if you get it.

Speaker 24 (36:29):
Hugh Madam, Secretary, you have an important job. I think
you have one of the most important jobs in the cabinet.
Thank you for doing it. I want you to have
credibility and be taken seriously as you do the job.
And so I want to put to rest this question
about mister Garcia and this photo that the President posted

(36:50):
on April twenty one, Madame Secretary, you agree that the
letters MS and the number thirteen in Times Roman numeral
font that they are doctored on this.

Speaker 14 (37:03):
Photo, right, Congressman Abrego Garcia.

Speaker 16 (37:07):
No, no, I'm just asking about the semester.

Speaker 14 (37:08):
It wasn't based off of tattoos. It was off an
entire and.

Speaker 24 (37:12):
Accept I'll accept that for the purpose of this question.
You agree though, that this is doctor.

Speaker 16 (37:17):
Is that right?

Speaker 14 (37:17):
The same protocols that.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Are of Secretary.

Speaker 16 (37:20):
I want you to have credibility and I want you
to be taken seriously. Is this doctored or is it not?

Speaker 14 (37:24):
I'm taken quite seriously.

Speaker 16 (37:26):
Is it doctored or not? Doctor?

Speaker 14 (37:27):
The importance that the President has given me to.

Speaker 16 (37:30):
I understand is it doctored or noting.

Speaker 14 (37:32):
That's important to remember is that every single time a
case is built, I'm.

Speaker 24 (37:35):
Secary, I have a seven year old, six year old
and a three year old. I have a bullshit detector.
I'm just asking you, is this doctored or not doctored?

Speaker 14 (37:43):
Sir? The protocols in the case built against and you
answer the question, we're exactly the same. I don't have
any knowledge as to that photo. You're pointing to.

Speaker 24 (37:51):
Okay, can you take the photo walk for the photo
down there other than that one, please take a look
at this photo is tweeted by the president on A
twenty one. It's been hanging out there for about a month.

Speaker 14 (38:02):
So what is your point?

Speaker 24 (38:04):
My question is the numbers and the letter MS thirteen.
Could you look at the photo please, it's right in
front of it.

Speaker 14 (38:09):
Are you saying a BREAKO. Garcia is not a white No, ma'am.
He's not a criminal, he's not a human. I'm not
a number of ms.

Speaker 24 (38:16):
You vouched for mister Garcia when your team said, ma'am,
you vouched for him when you said he was mistakenly deported.

Speaker 16 (38:22):
I didn't vouch for him.

Speaker 14 (38:23):
I did not say that photo been deported. Absolutely, it's
so temperateness.

Speaker 16 (38:27):
Won't look at the photo.

Speaker 14 (38:28):
And we will not be bringing was it.

Speaker 16 (38:30):
Doctored or not?

Speaker 14 (38:32):
It's staying here, and you look to your right at.

Speaker 24 (38:35):
The photo in front of it, Madame secretary, can you
look to the right at the photo in front of you.

Speaker 14 (38:38):
I have seen this photo as you held it behind
your head.

Speaker 16 (38:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 24 (38:42):
And the letters MS and the numbers thirteen, are those
doctored or not?

Speaker 14 (38:48):
Testimony today is on a doctored photo. You don't want
to talk about the facts, okays of our national security.

Speaker 16 (38:54):
You acknowledge it was doctor.

Speaker 14 (38:55):
Make sure that the United States is protected from Secretary.

Speaker 24 (38:58):
This is not a hard question. Are those doctored or not?
Is that is that actually on his hand or not?

Speaker 14 (39:04):
This is unbelievable to me that you're focused.

Speaker 24 (39:07):
It's unbelievable to me that you can't look at the
photo and tell the American the photo.

Speaker 14 (39:10):
But I don't have any knowledge as to this photo.

Speaker 24 (39:12):
Okay, So it's been hanging out there for four weeks.
You are one of the chief law enforcement officials in
the country. What have you done to investigate whether the
president misrepresented the reason that that person has been detained?
You have you done anything to try and figure out
whether that was doctor or not.

Speaker 14 (39:30):
The mission of the Department of Homeland Security is to
secure our nation and to make sure that we're out
there going after those that are the worst of the worst,
the criminals, the bad actors of Regoski.

Speaker 16 (39:41):
So the answer is you've done nothing to correct.

Speaker 14 (39:43):
The president of MS thirteen, a wife reader and a
human trafficker that should never have been in this country.
To begin with.

Speaker 16 (39:50):
So, Madame Secretary, thank you.

Speaker 25 (39:53):
Really, if the Supreme Court has ruled nine nothing, nine nothing,
that he hasn't been tree appropriately, why is your opinion better?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
We have more authority than the Supreme.

Speaker 14 (40:06):
Court investigators to judges and Immigration Court that all said
he was MS thirteen and was removed to this from But.

Speaker 25 (40:14):
You understand that is you saying that. That is you
saying that saying no, no, no no, that is making that.

Speaker 14 (40:22):
Determination against him.

Speaker 25 (40:23):
If you don't court has considered all that, the judge
has considered all that, Madame Secretary, if you would be quiet,
because I'm reclaiming my time, you are not following this
court order. But let's focus on the court order because
this opinion also says that to facilitate, which the Supreme
Court is retire requiring, is an active verb. It requires

(40:45):
that steps be taken. What steps have you taken to
return mister Abrago Garcia to allow him to get due process?

Speaker 14 (40:56):
Breco Garcia is in his home country. What you weards
have taken if you're continued advocacy for him, were too.

Speaker 25 (41:04):
I'm not advocating for him, I'm advocating for a court order,
Madam Secretary, for the court order says that you must
take steps.

Speaker 9 (41:12):
To follow the court order.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
You are here under oath.

Speaker 25 (41:15):
What steps have you taken to return, mister abergo Garcia
pursue it to this court order.

Speaker 14 (41:22):
It's got to be extremely discouraging to be one of
your constituents. To see you fight for a terrorist like
this and not fight for them is extremely alarming to me.

Speaker 25 (41:32):
I'm fighting for due process, and that's under the constitution.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Gentlemen, as you like to hire process.

Speaker 18 (41:39):
You refer to foreign terrorist organizations. You refer to aliens
who are affiliated with foreign terrorism. You refer to arrests
of suspected gang members. Not once do you mention the
term domestic terrorism, domestic terrorist, or lone wolf. There's a
gaping hole in your testimony today. You fail to reassure
this committee or the American people that you'll protect the

(42:00):
homeland from bad actors radicalized right here in the US,
like the gunman who opened fire on my community three
years ago. Today, there's been a systematic, intentional effort by
your department in this administration since January twentieth to ignore
the very real threat posed by domestic terrorism.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
A little hot there.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Here's what the reality Andrew. These thugs refuse to abide
by a Supreme Court decision.

Speaker 13 (42:31):
Yeah, and you know when we look at the fact
that he was forbidding from going to that country.

Speaker 16 (42:40):
That she.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Actually, we're losing your signals. So let's say, well, let
me go to Niambi Niambi.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (42:49):
I mean, look, I think this is what happens in
this administration. I mean, everybody here is for Donald Trump's comfort,
not for the rule of law. You know, It's one
of those moments where we have to recognize the call
is coming from inside the house. The biggest threats to
our democracy are not the Ambrego Garcias of the world,
are the folks like Christy know, who were willingly and
regularly disobey the oath they took to the people of

(43:13):
the United States and to defending the United States Constitution.
The rule of law should be paramount. But so many
of people in this go round of this administration are
spending their time being sickophants and loyalists to Donald Trump that.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
They could care less.

Speaker 10 (43:28):
I mean, this is what is I think driving so
many people away from this presidency. It doesn't necessarily mean
that this is a shoeing for Democrats. But what it
does mean is many of those people who took a chance,
who thought that what Donald Trump was saying about immigration
about the economy would actually come to pass and they
would see their lives better, recognize that these are just

(43:51):
moves to basically dismantle a legal system that will allow anyone,
including Americans, rights and civil liberties to be trampled on
by this administration. And CHRISTI noan we know this woman
who is by her own admission killed a puppy, doesn't
care about people.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
I mean, she could not care less.

Speaker 10 (44:13):
Otherwise you wouldn't show up in a in a prison
in another country with a rolex on. While people are
being dehumanized and have had themselves I mean, had their
characters assassinated by no other word but your own in
this administrations. And this is the kind of stuff that
really upsets people. And I mean and upset is of

(44:34):
course putting it mildly, but is letting this, this, this
government's hypocrisy be on full display. This among many other things, right,
because while we're importing africaners from South Africa, we are
deporting people who have a right to be here and
who are old an opportunity to defend themselves in a

(44:58):
legal in a legal setting, and Christy nome is just
again another long list of people who have signed up
and signed away their own integrity in the name of
this administration.

Speaker 11 (45:10):
Absolutely, Rebecca, you know, I'm glad Yanby said it. Yeah,
she's a puppy killer because she couldn't figure out to
properly train her puppy, so.

Speaker 12 (45:18):
She decided to shoot it.

Speaker 11 (45:19):
That's simply ridiculous, and so is her approach in this administration.
For those of you all who have been inside of
the airports recently, you see the christynome Ice Barbie posters
as you're going through security, and it's simply ridiculous. There
are serious issues in this country. There are serious homeless
security issues in this country, but unfortunately the Secretary is

(45:39):
not a serious person to deal with it. She's more
concerned with esthetics than the actual substance of what's needed
in this country, and that's very unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
There is Andrew signal better.

Speaker 13 (45:53):
Yeah, so Roland, you know, the biggest issue that I
have is how she's playing in everyone's face as though
they're not going into the court and arguing something completely different.
They're not arguing that he's an MS three thirteen gang member.
They're not arguing that he's a domestic abuser. What they're
arguing is that, oh, you know, because we already deported him,

(46:17):
there's nothing that we can do, so we just it's
a mistake, it's an administrative error.

Speaker 9 (46:22):
So we're just gonna let it go.

Speaker 13 (46:24):
And then she's going into these congressional hearings and flat
out lie about what the government's position is before the court.
And they absolutely can take those steps to try to
bring him back, they just don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Well absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Bomb line is we're dealing with an absolutely corrupt, corrupt, corrupt,
corrupt White House and I'm all for Christy Nome getting
jacked up. I'm going to play some more comson Binny
Thompson laying into her, go ahead and play it.

Speaker 23 (46:57):
Who you or to the President for the laster declaration?
And it's taken an inordinate amount of time more than normal.
I just want to know, is that inordinate amount of
time is based on some plan that you have knowledge
of If it's not in writing, I understand. So you

(47:22):
talked about the rule of law. Are you telling the
committee that due process for anybody that's picked up in
this country should not be followed.

Speaker 14 (47:38):
Congressman, we have utilized due process as it is laid
out in the tools that Congress has given us. We
have followed the tools and the processes to which Congress
has given us to give due process to people appropriately
as it is due.

Speaker 23 (47:51):
So your testimony to this committee under oath is that
everybody that ICE has picked up in this country has
been give of every opportunity as it Section five under
the Constitution provides.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
Correct.

Speaker 14 (48:07):
I believe everybody has gotten due process and every person
has been treated appropriately according to the civil or the
criminal action to which they were encountering individuals and brought
into our detainment and then also removed from this country
rules that you have given us as the.

Speaker 16 (48:25):
Body of the United States. I'm not talking about tools.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
The Constitution is clear, correct, And your.

Speaker 23 (48:33):
Testimony on the oath to this committee is that everybody
that ICE has picked up and any other agency of
DHS has conformed to those statutes.

Speaker 14 (48:43):
For example, Congressman, excellent, yes or no no, I don't
need removal is one of the secretaries you have.

Speaker 16 (48:51):
I just need a yes or no, sir.

Speaker 14 (48:53):
That is the due process tool that you have given
us to utilize it has.

Speaker 26 (48:56):
Been appropriately So gentlemen's time has expired, y'all.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Ice Barbie is a damn joke, That's what she is.
All Right, We're gonna go to a break. We can
come back. Catus Kelly will give us a breakdown of
the ooh testimony today in the Sean Dinny Kombs trial.
It was a whole lot with Cassie Adventurer for her
second day on the stand.

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We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 (50:32):
Forty second day, Cassie Adventure returned to the stand in
the federal trial of Sean Diddy Coombs, and man, it
was just as shocking and devastating as it was on yesterday.
Legal analyst Candy Kelly. Candice Kelly joined us right now
with the breakdown.

Speaker 15 (50:49):
You know, like you said, it was a lot. What
we found out actually were more details kind of just
the hundreds of encounters of these freakouts of freak offs.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Excuse me.

Speaker 15 (51:00):
Cassie really broke down everything. What she also said was
that at one point Sean Colmes did say that he
wanted to blow up Kid Cutty's car, wanted to make
sure that all of his friends were there. And she
also mentioned that many many times she said that she
did not want to do this anymore. Remember that's very
important to the case that the prosecution is trying to prove.

(51:21):
But here's what was the really big bombshell and this
came at the end of the day. Cassie explained that
when she finally broke up with Sean, she decided that
she would have dinner with him. She said it was
a fine dinner, a lovely dinner, but when they got
back home, he raped her, I mean, and this was
at the end of the day, so this was really
really big news on top of such big news that

(51:44):
you know, this is why they asked jurors on questionnaires,
are you comfortable with very detailed explanations about what goes
on when people are in the middle of sex. She
talked about how when Shawn Colmes found out that she
was dating Kid Cutty, that he started beating her as
she was having sex. During one of these freak offs,

(52:04):
she talked about getting sores in her mouth because of
having so much different types of oral sex with so
many different people, and you know, you to entrapped infections
that the medicines just wouldn't heal.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (52:17):
It was just a day of details. And when asked
how many freak offs did she think she was a
part of, she said too many to count. She eventually
said hundreds, So just a lot went on today, and
certainly a lot will go on tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
That's when cross examination will begin.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
She also talked about her twenty ninth birthday, that he
was just calling her so much that she just he
won't him a freak cof and she just left her
friends at at a karaoke bar.

Speaker 15 (52:49):
She absolutely did, and this is this was more than
on one occasion where she abandoned an event or abandoned
friends at the karaoke bar. She abandoned a Prince concert
when he heard that she was coming, he rushed right
out of there. She said she fell on her heels
because she knew that she was going to be in trouble.
And that was what the crux of what she was

(53:11):
saying that listen, I'm abandoning people.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I'm scared.

Speaker 15 (53:14):
I'm scared of this man. I'm scared for my life.
She mentioned that he had guns. She also had pictures
that were shown to the jury. Now these were her
own pictures that she took over the years. Some of
the pictures her mother took of bruises on the back
of her body. Of course the jury got to see that,
but everybody else in the court gallery did not see that.

(53:36):
In fact, we won't see any of that. This is
part of the stipulation and decision that was made by
the judge.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
But there were a lot.

Speaker 15 (53:43):
Of pictures, and I would say, again a lot of details,
just kind of layering on that this was something that
she was doing every single week, three hours, four hours
at a time.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Taking drugs.

Speaker 15 (53:56):
She mentioned the use of the IVY drip in order
to revive her she was getting tired. She mentioned once
waking up in the shower after having blacked out. So
I mean today was a day of details.

Speaker 12 (54:08):
She mentioned more.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Than ten men by names that.

Speaker 15 (54:11):
Were brought in as escorts, really building the prosecution's case.
I will say that if I was defending Sean Colmes,
I would have to dig into a couple of things
that she brought up. Number one, she did initiate a
couple of fights. She talked about initiating fights with Sean Colmbs.
She talked about initiating a fight with someone who was

(54:33):
taking a picture of her. She talked about texts that
she sent to Sean Combs saying I love you, you
make me so happy. She talked about a lot of
things that might seem confusing to jurorsm that they're going
to have to decipher whether or not, you know.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Was she being real or not.

Speaker 15 (54:50):
Another big deal of the day was the fact that, yes,
we all know that there was a settlement, but she
told everybody in the courtroom that that settlement was twenty
million dollar. And I will say, if I was a
defense attorney, I would be bringing that up asking her
why did she why was she asking for that money?

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Why did it take her so long to ask for
that money?

Speaker 15 (55:12):
Was it because she married someone that did not have
as much money as Sean Combs. I would get on
her about the fact that she did go on shopping
sprees that he paid for apartments and places where she lived.
We really do have to look at both sides because
on cross this is what we are going to see
the defense break down.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I RD one report where the defense told the judge
they're going to be shifting their strategy as a result
of her testimony.

Speaker 15 (55:40):
Well, sure, you know, they have to be very very
careful because she is a pregnant woman. She had very
very tight witness testimony, and they have to be careful
to make sure that the empathy that she gets is
not magnified so much by their jurors. They're going to
have to be nice to her. This will not be

(56:01):
a regular cross you know, you normally have a cross
examination where you impeach the witness. You make sure that
you want them to come off as liars to the jurors.
It's going to be very, very difficult in this situation. Plus,
what she's doing is she's giving up information before they
can bring it up. For example, as I said, she
said that she did start fights. Well, that's something that

(56:22):
they can talk about. But the fact that she put
everything out there, this is something that they're going to
have to change. She was a likable witness, believable witness. Again,
a few holes, but they definitely have to go a
little more gingerly than they would on someone who was
not eight months pregnant.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Again, it was a lot today about domestic violence, and
so do you believe that part of the strategy is
that for the prosecution that they want they want this
jury to be repulsed by Sean Nigummes.

Speaker 15 (57:02):
Oh absolutely. I think that they want them to be repulsed.
I think that they want them to know all of
the details. I think they want them to be really
sick to their stomachs because when you hear this type
of information where you know, a regular drug is not
kind of curing something that a lot of women get
a UTI that kind of you know, puts a little

(57:24):
hole in my stomach that she couldn't cure that because
she was involved in this domestic violence situation. I listen,
there are a lot of ways that this can happen too.
I mentioned the expert that we're going to hear from
that will kind of justify and contextualize all of this.
I would also suggest that if anybody wants to look at,
you know, those people who are in violent situations, look

(57:46):
at the Duluth model out.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Of Minnesota of Control and Power.

Speaker 15 (57:51):
It talks about all of the ways that women and
men are controlled, you know, economically and physically and made
to feel like they're alienated from their friends. All of
that plays into this. And I've worked with a lot
of domestic violence survivors, so she seemed pretty typical. But
we definitely need some contextualization as to what she was

(58:12):
going through and what someone inside of that type of
violent relationship is feeling because she stayed for a very
long time.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Questions from our panel.

Speaker 29 (58:23):
Rebecca, you first, thank you so much for your reporting,
but as you talked about the testimony today that was
centered around domestic abuse and domestic violence.

Speaker 11 (58:35):
We know that that isn't in the criminal complaint, but
specifically it's around coersion and sex trafficking. How do you
think the state is going, how do you think the
prosecution is going to start to move over to the
trafficking and the coersion to prove its case.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Well, you know, and thank you.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
For the question.

Speaker 15 (58:55):
There was one point in her testimony where she talked
about getting on a commercial flight and during that flight
she made reference to the fact that Sean Colmbs right
on the plane pulled up video that she thought was
deleted just to make sure that she knew she had
to continue in those streak offs. And this was after
she had said several times, I do not want to

(59:17):
be a part of these s freak offs. So I
think that many people might look at that as coercion.
There's threat, there's intimidation, There's that level of coercion.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
So they're drawing and connecting.

Speaker 15 (59:28):
The dots very slowly, because you're right, there isn't anything
outright that says Sean Colmes wrote a note that says,
I will kill you if you do not go to
those streak offs, but the way that she was treated,
how many times she was beated and punched and kicking
her head, I think that the jury will be able
to connect the dots and make that coercion part of it.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Really stip.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
MEAMBI.

Speaker 10 (59:52):
Yeah, So thank you again, Candice for those details. I mean,
I know it's pretty hairy. Does it seem like the
jury is reacting at all those details or is everyone
trying to maintain a poker face, because I think that's
a pretty harrowing set of allegations.

Speaker 15 (01:00:07):
There no, absolutely, so Listen, I've been in and out
of the courthouse. At one point, it's reported that one
of the jurors, when they saw these pictures that she
had guessed and put put their hand up against their
chest because they were very, very surprised at the bruises
that were shown that she took of herself. But most

(01:00:29):
of the time they have just had a poker face,
and I think that they've just been taking everything in
as Sean Combs is too. I think what's also interesting
is that while show Colmbs probably will not take the
witness stand, just him sitting there all gray, reading the Bible,
taking notes, you know, saying thank you to everybody with
his hands classed. You really are testifying when you're not

(01:00:51):
when you're sitting there. So I think that the jury
is just taking all of that in and they're trying
to be as poker face as possible.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
Andrew, Yes, thank you for your reporting on this.

Speaker 13 (01:01:02):
What's the overall I guess temperament in the courtroom in general?
Are things pretty contentious? Is everyone pretty civil? What are
things like?

Speaker 15 (01:01:14):
Oh, you know, everybody is very civil. If you want
to judge on any case, this is the judge to have.
He is very civil. All the attorneys are very civil.
And I mean there their and their their powerhouses of attorneys.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
So they're interesting to.

Speaker 15 (01:01:28):
Watch them do their work. It is is packed, it's
not as packed.

Speaker 16 (01:01:32):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:01:32):
I covered the Shanku I'm Shooting trial in two thousand
and one. It wasn't like that. It's certainly more kind
of an assembly line of people who were sitting in there.
I think what was interesting is that when we all
sit down in court, the manager of the courtroom says, hey, listen,
you cannot talk and you have to be respectful. Because

(01:01:52):
this is a part where the press has a responsibility
to the public in order to report everything that's going on.
I like that very much because this is this is
why we have the press and people like me are
able to go into the courtroom.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
But it is very civil and very quiet. Outside it's
a madhouse.

Speaker 15 (01:02:09):
I mean, people are in line right now in order
to be inside of the courthouse tomorrow. There are big
fights that have been broken out, breaking out, and there's
a lot going on, but inside very very cordials.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, again, it is a whole lot to take in.
And again, the trial is expected to go eight weeks.
This is only day two. So the question then really becomes,
you know, what does the prosecution unveil again? I saw
one that attorneys for a couple of other witnesses, including
one person who was a Calm's assistant, talked about how

(01:02:47):
scared to death and nervous they are are testifying.

Speaker 15 (01:02:50):
Oh absolutely, this is probably She goes by the name
of Mia. This was mentioned in the first day of
the opening statements for the prosecution. We heard more about
Mia today from Cassie Ventura and how she was treated
as his assistant.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Or an employee. And you know what we'll probably hear.

Speaker 15 (01:03:09):
You know, he's facing dozens of civil lawsuits and of course,
there was due diligence done to talk to all those
people who filed. Will probably hear from those people who
filed those civil lawsuits, but absolutely we're going to hear
from two or three other women, depending upon if they
can get that one who's kind of missing an action.
We're going to hear their first hand testimony as victims

(01:03:31):
in this child.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
All right, Kenn Kelly, you appreciate it. Thanks for breaking
for the breakdown.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
All right, good to see you.

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More news to talk about, including finally Supreme Court Justice
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The legal battle over the Supreme Court seat North Carolina
is now done, with Allison Riggs being sworn in today
as the Supreme Court justice in that state. She already
had the seat. She's been challenged by a Republican and
of course for six months he was fighting this, just
making stuff up, and so finally she was sworn in.
Here this is all right, we had all right, we'll

(01:05:33):
have a video, okay, all right, okay, let me find
it myself to do this. Of course, is a race
that we've been looking at, focused on, uh and talking
about that that has been just absolutely crazy. This is
actually a video that Riggs dropped after her swing in.

(01:05:55):
Watch this.

Speaker 30 (01:05:55):
I'm Justice, Hi, I'm Justice Allison Riggs. I just sworn
in again as an Associate Justice on the North Carolina
Supreme Court. It is my great honor to continue serving
the people of the state. And my promise to you
is this.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
I will fight for.

Speaker 30 (01:06:14):
Every North Carolinian, regardless of who they voted for. I
will defend all North Carolinians, regardless of political affiliation. I
will uphold the rule of law, the Constitution, and follow
my solemn oath without fear or favor, and I will
stand up for your rights and freedoms.

Speaker 14 (01:06:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
It was an absolutely just crazy back and forth that
took place this year's video of her being sworn in
as well, just back the Republican was doing, I mean,
trying to get some sixty five thousand votes rejected. Is
what was just the most nonsensical thing for me about
all of this, Rebecca, is that this was weird. He

(01:07:01):
was trying to get the ballots tossed in his race,
and the North Carolina Supreme Court Republican led was trying
to have him all as they could, but you're going
to act like other people didn't vote, so toss out
ballots only in his race, as if there were no

(01:07:23):
other races on the ballot. That to me is what
was so crazy. So like, oh, only in his race,
they were illegal.

Speaker 11 (01:07:33):
Yeah, yeah, so absolutely, So this is what's crazy. He
was trying to go back twenty years and say that
because the law has changed the last twenty years, the
requirements for voter registration twenty years ago is now stricter now,
so those who registered up to twenty years ago retel
actively or fast forwardly, they should have complied what the

(01:07:54):
future of voter registration restrictions were going to be in
North Carolina, So it's non And then also, those sixty
five thousand folks who voted, their votes were counted in
the other races on that ballot that they voted for.
Those votes were actually already certified. So it is ludicrous
to say only for this particular line on the ballot,

(01:08:15):
do not count these ballots because these people weren't properly
registered the vote, so it didn't have legal bearing.

Speaker 12 (01:08:22):
It didn't make sense.

Speaker 11 (01:08:23):
But even just on the surface of it, if you
are someone who's sworn to uphold the law, and to
be a jurist in the state of North Carolina, you
should first start by following the law. So ultimately, what
we saw when the district court judge, which was a
I believe it was a Trump appointed judge, said come on,

(01:08:44):
it's over. At that point, the Republicans in North Carolina
knew that it was indeed over.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
THEO for the people who say elect my vote does
not matter. This is the actual map between Alison Riggs
and Jefferson and Griffin. This is the map right here.
You see the count you see the counties one northline
at the bottom. But the reality is this was a

(01:09:12):
seven hundred and thirty four vote margin. That I mean,
you look at the you look at the counties there
in North Carolina. That tells you right there, every vote
does indeed matter.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (01:09:25):
And I think when you're talking about a place like
North Carolina, which has some really interesting politics right where,
you know, some places are blue, some plaplaces are more purple,
some places are more red. It absolutely matters. It's a
big state with a lot of counties, so this really
was going to be one on the margins. And I
think when you think about places where voting equipment is

(01:09:51):
not as updated as it should be, where you see
people who are disenfranchised or excluded. Again, these efforts matter
so much more.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
And so you know, the North Carolina.

Speaker 10 (01:10:05):
State Border of Elections and others who've been involved in
this process, right have spoken repeatedly not just about the process,
but about the sort of the equipment and the infrastructure
that is needed in this state. So this election, which
is about election denialism and all this other stuff at

(01:10:25):
the national level, is really about equality and access to
at the local level. And you know, look, state races
are so vital to our lives, and many are one
with as few votes as we saw here in North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
So, if anything, I think this is a plug for people.

Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
If you're over the national stuff, okay, fine, but your
state and local elections matter so much more for your
daily life and how you experience your daily life. In
North Carolina is just one of many places. So this
is whether we're talking about judges or we're talking about
school boards or any of the those other positions. Right
when we care about things like potholes, we got to
look locally. So I hope people pay attention and know

(01:11:07):
that there's a lot of stuff happening in our communities
right now that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Matter, Andrew. That's the point that we're always making. But
here's the other thing that people don't seem to understand.
And Riggs did when she spoke, she warned about the
threat to future elections. Listen to this.

Speaker 31 (01:11:27):
Voters should not have to fight a name to how
their laws counted. Disappoint all attentions, should not do sports
to try and get as in front of.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Election we have and then may continue to see.

Speaker 32 (01:11:47):
Efforts to underline how rights that are democracy and just
for fu voices in this fight, I am needs to
remember you decide elections, not canadates, not political parties, and.

Speaker 20 (01:12:07):
Those that you elect are trying to you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
It is crucial for you to.

Speaker 32 (01:12:14):
Use your precious right to vote to elect candidates.

Speaker 33 (01:12:19):
And especially judges who put to the Constitution the movement
of law and their solid moote above their own for
some political ambicis and idealities.

Speaker 32 (01:12:33):
And the reason I was able to stay resolute, not discouraged,
and not.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Because I knew that I stood arm.

Speaker 30 (01:12:44):
In arm when you protagging that precious mother than on
rights of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Thanks Andrew folk, but not play around because again these
Republican courts in this state. They were trying to get
this election to Griffins as badly as they could. They
tried everything.

Speaker 13 (01:13:06):
Yeah, it's so sad to see our democracy and also
the three branch of the government, how it played out
in a situation that was so egregious, and how they
were able to almost overthrow an election that was clearly
won by Rix. But ultimately we did see that the
rule of law prevailed.

Speaker 9 (01:13:26):
And I think that it gives.

Speaker 13 (01:13:27):
Us a slither, a slither of hope that the rule
of law can prevail. Like how she talked about perseverance
and how she stood tall and how she was able
to overcome even in the face of adversity.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Absolutely so again, and so now you see the woman
who's holding the microphone there. That is that y'all may
not y'all freeze it. Y'all may not realize this, but
that's a black woman. That is North Carolina Supreme Court
Justice Anita Earles. She's going to be on the ball
next year again. Riggs and Earls are the only two

(01:14:04):
Democrats on the Supreme Court, and they have been trying everything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Rebecca to get Earls off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
In fact, she gave an interview talking about diversity, equity,
and inclusion among the staff. These fools had her investigated
and wanted to impeach her because she gave her opinion.

Speaker 12 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:28):
So, Anita Earles is an amazing jurist. She spent her
legal career as a civil rights attorney. She clearly understands
the law. She's committed to upholding civil rights. She understands
the importance of diversity in the state of.

Speaker 12 (01:14:43):
North Carolina as well across the United States.

Speaker 11 (01:14:46):
And so right now we're seeing a scheme in North
Carolina where they don't want representation. They want to have
two classes of citizens of citizenship in North Carolina, which
is one reason why Anita Earle going into next year
will be a target.

Speaker 12 (01:15:00):
But something else that viewers need to pay attention to.

Speaker 11 (01:15:03):
The other thing that North Carolina decided to do is
with their state election Commission. It used to be that
the government, the governor made the appointees to that commission.
What there was a change in the legislature last year,
so it's no longer the governor that's making those appointments.
It's no longer it didn't even move to the lieutenant governor.

(01:15:23):
It even moved to the Secretary of State instead South Carolina,
North Carolina decided to give it to the auditor. So
now the auditor, the state auditor, who is a Republican,
is now allowed to appoint those who will served on
the election Commission. And the reason why that's important as
election rules are updated and changed and when there are controversies,

(01:15:45):
it's going to be the Republican state auditors appointees who
are going to be making those decisions. So one thing
to look out in North Carolina is that there's potential
of litigation to actually to actually.

Speaker 12 (01:15:58):
Get rid of that scheme. But people need to keep
their eye.

Speaker 11 (01:16:01):
In North Carolina because when it comes to the vote,
we're going to still see challenges going into the twenty
twenty sixth election cycle.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
And I understand Nambi, why do they do that well,
because the governor in North Legislature did that. The governor
in North Carolina is a Democrat, the Lieutenant governor is
a Democrat, the Secretary of State is a Democrat, the
Attorney General is a Democrat. That's why they shifted that
authority to the state auditor.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (01:16:30):
And I think you know the thing about Anita Earls
that has been important and why people the Republicans in
particular in North Carolina have targeted her is she is
objected to many of the things that they have done
around curbing people's access to vote, like voter ID laws
and other things.

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
She has been a chief objector in part.

Speaker 10 (01:16:47):
Because her argument is this has nothing to do with
you know, voter integrity or anything like that. It's about
keeping people of color out of the electoral process. And
she has made that claim repeatedly as we've seen Republicans
and say get more aggressive quite frankly, you know, they've
been in Bolden and have been for a while, and

(01:17:08):
so you know, North Carolina is one of those places
that's kind of unique because if you know anything about
North Carolina, you know, like Durham, for example, was never
covered by the Voting Rights Act because of so many
black people who are registered to vote in nineteen sixty five.
But there are other parts of that county, right, I mean,
of that state, excuse me, where that were covered in part.

(01:17:29):
And one of the things that North Carolina has always
been very good about is doing their racism in such
a way that they didn't really use racist language.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
So when they didn't want to integrate schools.

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
What did they do?

Speaker 10 (01:17:44):
Started these private academies like lots of states did, and
then gave you know, local communities the ability to abandon schools.
They do similar things with voting and voting challenges right
where anyone could challenge someone's voter registration and those males
wouldn't be forwarded to your new address, so you wouldn't
even know sometimes that that had happened to you. So
North Carolina has a very long history of this, and

(01:18:06):
Anita Earls has been one of the thorns in their side,
kind of obstructing their ability to.

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
Do this with the speed and the quiet that they
would like to do it with.

Speaker 10 (01:18:19):
Because the thing about the GOP in North Carolina, they
like to do a lot of things, but they don't
like to claim a lot of things when it comes
to undermining black voting rights in that state, and so
Anita Earls has been a problem for them for quite
some time.

Speaker 13 (01:18:35):
Andrew, Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't want to
echo in and rehash pailism set, but one of the
things that we have to remember is that the South
still lives on. They're still going to be three or
four steps ahead of us when it comes to the

(01:18:56):
institution of racism you see here in twenty twenty, and
they're still trying to do the same thing, trying to
oppress women and trying to oppress African Americans.

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
And other minorities.

Speaker 13 (01:19:10):
So we have to make sure that we are staying
ahead of the game and we're looking at what their
blueprints are right, and we're looking at the things that
they're doing and making sure that doesn't trickle up north
to our communities.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
All right, folks, quick break, we come back. We're gonna
talk about the gutless Speaker.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Of the House, Mike Johnson, who is so wimpy he
won't even call out Trump's four hundred million dollar airplane deal.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Also Florida A and M for even.

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A funk house there as well, over the hiring a
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Morehouse College is named doctor F. D. Watt Bowman as
his thirteenth president, marking a powerful return to a more
House Man Bowman in nineteen ninety two graduate. Also, he
is a nationally respected health leader currently serves as Dean
of the University of Michigan School of Public Health. Known
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Bowman will take the helm on July fifteenth. Trustees say
he brings the perfect blend of intellect, strategy, and values
driven leadership to god more House into its next era,
now going to Florida, Florida and M's president's research has
reached a fever pitch with controversies swirling around finalists Marva
Johnson in the process itself to strike strong opposition from students, alumni,

(01:21:46):
and civil rights leaders, including a rally led by Florida
A and M Alum and Hollywood producer Will Johnson. Johnson
made her case before the Board of Trustees. During her
interview today, she thanked the search committee and emphasized her
commitment to Florida and Ana and legacy. Meanwhile, critics say,
well they questioned her academic qualifications and enlarged political interference,

(01:22:06):
pointing to her ties through Florida's Republican leadership and her
late addition to the finalist pool. NAACP leaders in the
Florida and community have called for restart of the search
to ensure transparency and fairness. The Board of Trustees is
going to vote on May sixteenth, with the Florida Board
of Governors making the found decision. Play some of that audio, please.

Speaker 35 (01:22:26):
Assessments, and this is one place where AI can be helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Getting real time assessments from students.

Speaker 35 (01:22:33):
Might help the teachers improve their ability to service the
students in the classroom. And so if we pull levers
like that, I think we can see we can make progress,
and if we can't make progress, maybe we can have
a better perspective on what opportunities we should look to so.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
That we can make that in All of the finalists
have been meeting this week on campus with the board
with students. People have an opportunity to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Ask questions as well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
And again it was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
It was a lot here. This was a video post.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
It's person I met Marva Johnson's meet and greet session
Florida A and M alumni in the community. It's packed
on like previous evening sessions with the other finalist. Attendees
include will Packer and Lawrence Humphreys, son of former Florida
and THEM president William Humphries watched this here turn it
up particulation.

Speaker 36 (01:23:32):
So I am in my role as the member, as
the chair of the state Quat, I just spend a
lot of time working as as policy as well as
in managing performance. As it clinks to glimmering the outfits
start famous in Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Now, there have been others who've been who've been commenting, uh,
who have been again raising their concerns. Let me pull
up a second here. I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna
show you here, give me a second, right here, I
want to show you Andrew Gillham, of course, who is

(01:24:14):
a graduate of Florida A and M. He weighed in
as well with his thoughts on all of this on Instagram.
Let me go there. I want to show you what
he had to say. Again, folks are not at all happy,
specifically about Marva Johnson. They're unhappy that she has been

(01:24:37):
picked as a finalist. Part of this is because they
say she has no university experience whatsoever. Now you heard
her there talk about being on the state Board of Education.
But again she's never actually worked in higher education. Let
me see if I can pull this together for you.

(01:24:58):
This was on Instagram Andrew Gillham. He says, meet Marva
Johnson's political puppet, no ties to Florida A and M,
no higher education experience. She's not here for us, She's
here for them. And so you have his post here.
He says. Republican conservative operators are knocking. They see fam
you as their next takeover. We can't let them in.

(01:25:20):
And then he says outside power players are trying to
hijack our leadership. We see you, and we won't stay silent.
And so they says you see what he says here,
No maga Marva movement, dimbi. That's a whole lot going
on there. And look, the point is, you know what. Look,
I personally know Marva Johnson. I met her years ago.

(01:25:43):
She's been a cable lobbyist, so I've met her at
cable events. But when they say that if you want
the president of a university, if you've never worked at
a university in any capacity whatsoever, how are you qualified
to be the president of a university?

Speaker 10 (01:26:03):
I think this is a big cand of worms, in
part because of DeSantis right and his move to root
out ideological stuff as I think he used the term
at universities and family as the latest.

Speaker 9 (01:26:16):
Look.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
There are a lot of routes to becoming the president.

Speaker 10 (01:26:19):
I do think it is important for a person as
a university president to understand how our university works. It's
not a business, it's not like other things. You not
only have to know how to fundraise and distribute money,
but you also have to know how to deal with students,
deal with families, deal with parents. And yes, you have
deans and vice provos and all those kind of folks

(01:26:40):
to do that stuff, but a lot of your job
is about restoring or installing confidence in that place. And
if people don't feel that you are a person of integrity,
that you are bringing that to that position, then you're
going to get responses like this. I don't think that
there's a way that Marva Johnson can take this job
with no prior university experience, with no.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
Ties to this institution.

Speaker 10 (01:27:05):
And all of the other things, and expect to have
the respect of her university community. The fact that you
saw that many students at that function when it is
after the end of classes, right at the very end
of the semester, there's summer technically should be starting now,
and you see that many students there. That is a
testament to how bothered and upset these students are and

(01:27:29):
how concerned they are. And it is no surprise that
DeSantis would go after one of the flagship black institutions
in that state.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
It's no means the only but.

Speaker 10 (01:27:39):
I think when you think about FAM, you and think
about its status in that state and just its status
nationally as.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
A premier institution.

Speaker 10 (01:27:47):
We should have known that it would be on the offing,
especially since so many Florida universities have had new presidents
in the last couple of years. So I think people
should be rightly concerned that this person is there just
to sort of do the bidding of the governor and
not serve the needs of the students of Florida A
and M University.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
This is the thing that jumps out at me again.
I am look as somebody who understands institutions, who run places.
I just believe. I just believe, Rebecca that we're talking
about being the president of a university. Let's just look
at some numbers here, Okay, Florida A and M.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Ten thousand student body.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Okay, when you look at size of the faculty and staff,
I mean we're talking about four n twenty two acre campus.
We're talking about again, where the university ranks. We're looking
at so many different things when it comes to background.

(01:29:03):
If you never run something, it's kinda hard for to
make the point about, yeah, let's you go ahead and
run this now. That's one of the points also Will
Packer has been making. I'm going to MyPad. This is
the local station where he talked about his opposition to

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her being president.

Speaker 20 (01:29:28):
Amphitheater's namesake himself, Will Packer.

Speaker 37 (01:29:31):
We have to make sure that we support each other,
and that we are loud and we are ardent in
our opposition to somebody that is not right for the
future of this institution, especially at a time that is
so crucial.

Speaker 10 (01:29:46):
The renowned FAMU alum and film producer tells us countless.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
From the now, you got five hundred and thirty five
full time instructural faculty, four hundred and seventy six support
service staff. Again, if I'm hiring somebody, my first question
is have you ever run an institution of this size?
Have you run an institution half this size?

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
If you have?

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
If you haven't, how can you be considered a finalist
for a job of a flagship university in the state
of Florida.

Speaker 12 (01:30:26):
So here's the thing about fam you from.

Speaker 11 (01:30:29):
If you know anyone who went to FAM or is
an alum of FAM and if you're familiar or a
part of the family league, then you absolutely know how
tight knit that community is. If you never walked the
highest of seven hills there, then you don't need to
be trying to run FAMU. So it's not just whether
or not have you run an institution where it's over
ten thousand year OWD students plus just under a thousand

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faculty and staff. But it's also what is your commitment
to FAMU.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
The other thing is past this prologue.

Speaker 11 (01:31:00):
So I believe she was the chair of the Florida
State Board of Education. So tell me how did black
students in Florida public schools fare under your leadership? Did
they increase, did they improve in scholastic achievements or was
there a decrease? What were the outcomes of black students?
If you can't answer that, if you can't prove even

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in your past and you've done things to the betterment
of black students in the state of Florida, that you
do not deserve to run FAMU. And finally, I would
be a little petty and know to those who are
making comments, I'm not going to make fun of her wig,
but this is what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 12 (01:31:38):
She is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha. I think
it's telling that.

Speaker 11 (01:31:41):
They're like usually when someone who's trying to go into
leadership and is a member of my Illustrious sorority, we
go up for that person. We are extremely supportive and
supporting that person. I think it's very telling that I'm
not hearing members of Alpha Kappa Alpha shouting out their
support of her in this end.

Speaker 12 (01:32:00):
She certainly is not a good fit.

Speaker 11 (01:32:02):
She is not qualified, she has not shown a commitment
to the family community, and it is what it is.

Speaker 12 (01:32:08):
It's a farce.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
So again for me, I just look at very clear
metrics and understanding. Andrew will go to you. I'm looking
at you. This is the resume again, y'all. This is
not my opinion. This is the resume of Marral Brown Johnson.
It says right here. Okay, this is I just want

(01:32:32):
anybody hear what I'm saying. Professional experience, Charter Communications twenty
sixteen to president, Group vice president twenty twenty to president,
Regional vice President State Government Affairs for the South, twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty. Okay, bright House Networks acquired by

(01:32:57):
Charter in twenty sixteen, so work there from twenty sixteen
to two two six, twenty sixteen, Corporate Vice President, Government
and Industry Affairs, twenty and ten. In the twenty sixteen
Corporate Vice President, Technology Policy and Industry Affairs, Interim vice
president CLC Operations. Then you go to Director Carrier Services

(01:33:22):
and Financial Operations two thousand and six, two thousand and eight.
So if we're starting in in two thousand. If we're
and again, okay, you know lawd Agree from Georgia State,
NBA from Emory University, Executive Management Program, Harvard Business School,
Bachelor of Science from Georgetown University. Okay, So if I'm

(01:33:45):
looking at experience, I'm looking at twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
To president.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
So that's nineteen years I mean nine. No, No, I'm sorry.
Nowhere in here do I see leading or running an institution,
running how many employees?

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Again, this is what I look at.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
I look at how many people did you manage? I
look at do any of these jobs have what we
call p n L responsibility?

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Profit and loss?

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
The answer is no, I'm sorry, and I don't. And again,
I know mother personally, I've met her.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
She's a golfer. I mean, I can I text her
last week. I just don't see how this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Light of a resume to be a university president.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
These two simp we don't correlate.

Speaker 13 (01:34:55):
Well, look, Roland, you know, honestly, after seeing this, I
think that I might put in my application to be
the president of Howard University. This is the definition of
a plan. When you look at the other candidates that
she's up against. One is the vice president of that university.

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The other one works at Eastern Shore.

Speaker 16 (01:35:19):
Currently.

Speaker 13 (01:35:19):
They are so much higher qualified than she is, even
at this moment that it makes zero sense except for
the fact that she is a mada plan and for her.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
To even be considered.

Speaker 13 (01:35:35):
You go back to thinking about the process of applying
for a job. When you sit behind your computer, you
put your resume in and then you.

Speaker 9 (01:35:44):
Hope that you get a call back.

Speaker 13 (01:35:45):
You get all these qualifications that a person in this
job needs to do this and that, right, and then
you apply for the job and you say, man, I
have all these qualifications, and I hope that I get
a call back. And they called her back someone that
I was listening, and I didn't hear anything in there
that said anything about being in any way related to education,

(01:36:06):
whether it be even except for a student, right, except
for getting degrees in education. Nothing in there, teaching a class,
even sitting on a board of a university. Nothing in
terms of educational experience. So this is the definition of
a plan. It's sad because we have somebody in the
White House right now that has experienced yes, four years beforehand,

(01:36:28):
but it's completely unqualified for the position.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
And now they're starting in Florida.

Speaker 13 (01:36:33):
Goes back to what I was saying about the South,
that we got to watch the South. Right in these
trends in the South is they're starting in Florida. Fend
you a very well known, highly respected HBCU, and I
think that if they let her in, there's going to
be the trend because just because she's an AKA does
not mean that she's qualified to run an entire institution.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
So I just want to show people these are the finalists.
All right, So you look right here Rondale Allen, Provost
and Vice President for Academic Affairs, University of Maryland Eastern Shore.
And then if you click CV you'll see let's see here,

(01:37:17):
you'll see Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs, University
of Maryland Eastern Shore, Acting Vice President for Strategic Initiatives,
Dean of the School of Pharmacy and Health Professions, Associate
Dean for Academic Quality, Associate Dean for Student Affairs, Xavier University.
The den academic Quality was South University, School of Pharmacy,

(01:37:39):
Assistant Dean for Program Assessment, Xavier University. That's to me,
that's called relevant academic experience to be president. Okay, here's
the next person, Gerald Hector, CPA, Senior Vice president for
Administration and Finance at the University of Central Florida. If

(01:38:00):
I click his CV, what is it going to tell me?
Senior vice president University of Central Florida. Oversaw the issuance
of structured bonds. Okay, all the whole deal, later implementation,
all these things in terms of being the VP for
administration and finance. Then as I go Morehouse College, Executive
vice president, chief business officer. Let's see here, Cornell University,

(01:38:26):
Vice president for financial Affairs, University treasurer there. Two years
before that, let's see here, vice president for financial affairs.
They're still at Cornell. Okay, Ataca College, vice president for
Finance and administration.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Let me go down further. Johnson C.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Smith, vice president of Business and Finance. Okay, corporate controller,
you're not a negro college fund there for six years
Deloitte and Touche Public Accountant. All right, so that is
a extensive business academic record. Okay again, all right, showed

(01:39:18):
you Marvra Johnson's resume. The fourth candidate, Donald Palm, Executive
vice president, chief operating Officer, Florida and M University.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
So if I go through here, Florida A and M
EVP chief operating officer.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Before that, let's see here.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Okay, academic stuff, policy, strategic, all that sort of stuff.
Interim Vice president for Advancement and executive director.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Florida and the Foundation got it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Let's see previously Virginia State University Executi device president in provos,
vice president of student Affairs, vice president for research. Let's
see here. Let me go on down, uh do progressive leadership.
Florida and M associate provosts for undergraduate education, Associate vice

(01:40:10):
president for academic affairs, Assistant vice president for academic Affairs.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Okay, so you have three.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Candidates with significant university experience, one candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Zero university experience.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Also candidates that dealt with finances, manage staffs.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
One who's been a lobbyist.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
I'm sorry, I understand why people of Florida and M
are going, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
This don't make no sense?

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
Absolutely, I mean, for the party that loves whining and
complaining about me about DEEI and merit based hiring Rebecca,
I'm sorry, I don't see the merit and I'm making

(01:41:17):
an apples to apples comparison to resumes.

Speaker 11 (01:41:22):
They didn't even try here, so it's very insulting. You know,
they didn't even find somebody. I mean, maybe they could
have found a black administer at a liberty university or something,
at least someone who has worked in hiring head. Instead,
they're just like, oh, you're gonna fall for the okie dokee,
the banana and the tailpipe. And guess what Black people
are aspired than that, especially black folks connected to community.

(01:41:44):
What we're seeing is this person's not connected to community,
because if she was, they would have told her, heysis,
this ain't for you. You need to set this one out instead.
I don't know who her counsel is, but apparently she
has a very unwise counsel. If she had integrity, she
were would remove herself from this process. But unfortunately she
may be someone with no integrity, which is why she's

(01:42:06):
up for this position even though she should not be.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Well, all I'm doing is shitting here preparing the resumes. Listen,
if Marve hit me right now he said, what do
you think I would say, Marve, you ain't qualify for
the job. This aint and the first time I told
somebody I know you ain't qualified for this job, I mean,
I'm sorry, this is I mean, it is what it is,

(01:42:31):
all right, y'all before we go, I can't stand people
with no guts, who are hypocritical, who are just weak.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
That's speak of Mike Johnson. So he's asked today.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
He's asked today about the four hundred million dollar jet
that Qatar wants to get a Donald Trump. If y'all
want to see someone who will never win a Profile
Encourage award, it's Mike Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Listen.

Speaker 20 (01:43:04):
If the President were to accept a.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
Airplane from the Katari's government.

Speaker 14 (01:43:09):
Should Congress have a cluval over that.

Speaker 6 (01:43:12):
Kind of the act?

Speaker 38 (01:43:14):
Look, I've been a little busy on reconciliations. I'm not
following all the twist in terms of the Qatar jet.
I've certainly heard about it. My understanding is it's not
a personal gift of the President's a gift of the United States,
and other nations give us gifts all the time. But
I'm going to lead to the administration. They know much
more about the details of that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Okay.

Speaker 38 (01:43:32):
I'm just it's not my lane.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Run that back.

Speaker 15 (01:43:44):
If the President were to accept a.

Speaker 14 (01:43:47):
Airplane from the Katari's government, should Congress have a cluval
over that.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
Kind of the act.

Speaker 38 (01:43:54):
Look, I've been a little busy on reconciliations. I'm not
following all the twist in terms of the Kutar Jet
of certain heard about it. My understanding is it is
not a personal gift to the president's the gift of the
United States and other nations give us gifts all the time.
But I'm going to leave to the administration. They know
much more about the details of that. Okay, I'm just
it's not my lane.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
It's not my lane.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Not my lane, really, Henry, go to my iPad, y'all.
Article one, section nine Claus eight says no title of
nobility shall be granted by the United States, and no
person holding any office of profit or trust under them

(01:44:41):
shall without the consent of the Congress, except of any
present emolument, office, or title of any kind whatever, from
any King, prince, or foreign state.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Andrew what that means is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
Speaking Mike Johnson, it is your fucking lane. The Constitution
clearly states it's your lane. Go back right here without
the consent of the Congress. And then to say, oh,

(01:45:26):
we get gifts all the time, not four hundred million
dollar planes. And in the announcement that is going to
go to the United States and then after he leaves
it gets transferred to his library for his personal use.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Bruh really.

Speaker 13 (01:45:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, talk about the mis education
of Congress. First off, the United States educational system needs
to do better.

Speaker 9 (01:45:58):
I don't know, No, the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
US indications Tom is fine. The dumb ass don't want
to answer the question.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
I am not the Speaker of the House, and I
know about the monument.

Speaker 9 (01:46:10):
Clause, right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
They didn't ask.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Him to spell it, they asked him to weigh in
on it.

Speaker 13 (01:46:18):
Yeah, yeah, And I just and I just don't understand
how he can at least just say, or someone could
have preppedon and say, you know you're gonna get asked
about this jet, so if you're gonna get asked about
this jet, please just go ahead and say that Congress
will have to, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:46:31):
Decide it later.

Speaker 13 (01:46:32):
Instead, he just acts like he has no idea, completely
uninformed about anything. And then he makes this this ridiculous
remark that he has know that the Congress has no
bearing on whether or not a four hundred million dollar
jet goes to the leader of the free worlds.

Speaker 9 (01:46:48):
Come on, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
I mean this, this whole diamnia. I know, No, I
don't know. There's not my job. I don't know. I mean,
why y'all asking me. I mean, I've been busy with
some other stuff. I haven't heard.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
You ain't tell me yo as a Speaker of the House,
and you ain't heard about this here.

Speaker 10 (01:47:08):
I mean, listen, If you can't chew gum and walk
across the toe at the same time, then this is
clearly not the job for you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:13):
Look, Mike Johnson is not ready for prime time.

Speaker 10 (01:47:15):
It's been clear from the beginning that he is there
to essentially say whatever Donald Trump wants him to say.

Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
The fact that they're talking about accepting.

Speaker 10 (01:47:24):
This plane and then trying to use our money to
retrofit it right, to make it the air Force one,
not thinking about the security concerns or anything else. But
when it is decommissioned, right when he leaves office, he's
going to be able to use it for his private
use and donate it to his presidential library. I mean,
let's talk about what this is really about. Donald Trump

(01:47:44):
wants an upgrade. He is willing to take a bribe
from whomever is offering it. In this case, it happens
to be cutter. I think there are real questions about
Donald Trump, not just wanting to be a king, but
the level of public corruption that he will engage in
and then look at us with a straight face and say, no,
I'm not. And everybody around him is sick of fans

(01:48:07):
and others whose job it is, again to serve the
people of the United States and not Donald Trump, just
sit around and twiddle their thumbs and say I don't
know anything about this. Everybody knows something about this by now,
why don't you know about this?

Speaker 6 (01:48:21):
And I think this stuff, this sort of.

Speaker 10 (01:48:23):
Mealy mouthed playing in our faces that they're all doing,
it's going to come back to bite them eventually, because
one thing we do know about Donald Trump, he does
not forget, and he takes score.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
So those who choose.

Speaker 10 (01:48:38):
To get a backbone and stand in the way of
this gift, right, this government to government gift that somehow
is going to revert to Donald Trump as a private
individual once he leaves office, whenever that is, he will
go after them. And I'm just curious to see how
many people are going to, you know, I don't know,
try to maintain some semblance of integrity, try to pretend

(01:49:02):
that this is still a democracy, that they are still
people with actual titles in some power here. I'm waiting
to see it. It's certainly not going to be Mike Johnson.
Maybe maybe Thun or some others will come forward and
say something. But this is out and out ridiculous. It's corrupt,
It raises all kinds of security issues, and you know

(01:49:23):
this is par for the course when you're looking at
this administration.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Before I go to Rebecca, I found this to really
be laughable. If you want to see how hypocritical is
folly is watched this.

Speaker 9 (01:49:37):
Of President Speaker.

Speaker 26 (01:49:39):
You are very critical of President Biden and his family's
foreign business dealings.

Speaker 9 (01:49:43):
You supported an impeachment query as a result of it.

Speaker 26 (01:49:46):
Are you equally concerned about President Trump's family's business stealings,
especially given the fact that he is in a region
now where his family has six billions of dollars of
investments in Doha and Saudi Arabia, and the fact that
he has a crypto business now where he's auctioned off
access to the White House for the highest bidder.

Speaker 38 (01:50:02):
In his mean point, look, there are authorities that the
police executive Branch ethics rules. I'm not an expert in that.
My expertise is here in the House.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Okay.

Speaker 38 (01:50:11):
I will say that the reason they many people refer
to the Bidens as the Biden crime family is because
they were doing all this stuff behind curtains, but in
the back rooms they were trying to conceal it, and
they repeatedly lied about it, and they set up shell
companies and the family was all engaged in getting all
on the dolt. Whatever the President Trump is doing is
out in the open. They're not trying to conceal anything.

Speaker 26 (01:50:32):
But mister Spiger, the investment in the meanpoin those folks
are not transparent.

Speaker 9 (01:50:37):
We do not know who those people are. I don't
know anything about the mean Cooin thing.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 38 (01:50:41):
I can just tell you that, I mean, President Trump
has had nothing to hide. He's very upfront about it,
and there are people who watch all the ethics of that.
But I mean, I've got to be concerned with running
the House.

Speaker 26 (01:50:52):
Representative rucis oversight though. That's the congressional responsibility, isn't it.

Speaker 38 (01:50:56):
Congress has oversight responsibility. But I think, so far as
I know, the ethics are all being a fault so yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
So look get y'all translation, Uh say, unlike some other
people who we accused of being criminals, but they we
couldn't find any evidence they were criminals. See Donald Trump,
he robs the bank in daylight.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
And see when.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
Donald Trump robs the bank, they don't wear masks, and
they don't they don't they don't put on gloves. So
see what they do is they've seen you a text
before they steal your stack. So Trump's people are just
all see they are transparent with being grifters, Rebecca, That's

(01:51:53):
really what he said.

Speaker 11 (01:51:55):
Look, corruption is corruption, and it is wrong, whether it's
democrat or publican, whether it's behind closed doors or it's
in front, or it's on the world stage.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
What they couldn't prove the Biden so.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Called crime family, they couldn't prove it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
They had a goods comer promised for four years.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
I got the goods, I got the goods, I got
the goods, never had it.

Speaker 12 (01:52:19):
Yeah, they absolutely did not prove it.

Speaker 11 (01:52:21):
But I also am old enough to remember when Secretary
Hillary Clinton was a Secretary of State, I think she
was given like a two hundred and fifty dollars necklace
and it was all up in arms because she could
not keep a two hundred and fifty dollars necklace from
a foreign government. What's interesting here, the follow up question
the Speaker Johnson should be, Hey, Speaker Johnson, you ride

(01:52:43):
an Air Force one.

Speaker 12 (01:52:44):
From time to time.

Speaker 11 (01:52:45):
Do you feel comfortable riding under the new Air Force
one that's given by a foreign government that at times
has hostile anti American interests? Would you feel comfortable riding
in the sky around the world in.

Speaker 12 (01:52:57):
That particular jet?

Speaker 11 (01:52:59):
And I bet you, right then and there Mike Johnson
would have some things to say about that and probably
likely wouldn't want to fly in what would be a
compromised a jet at that point. This is ludicrous. It's
bad for a democracy. It also shows that Speaker Mike
Johnson is not a gut leader. He's not upholding constitutional principles,

(01:53:20):
especially for someone who claims to, you know, want to
uphold the Constitution. Because as a reminder, Article one of
the Constitution outlines Congress and Congress's principal role in this
democracy in being the primary check and balance on the
executive branch.

Speaker 12 (01:53:38):
But this is.

Speaker 11 (01:53:38):
Something that Speaker Johnson isn't comfortable with doing so maybe
maybe he's not qualified for the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Job, right, and at least the Republican CITI majority leader
had some guts.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
This is political Ciate Major leader.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
John Thune became the most prominent Republican to express discomfort
with the deal, telling reporters there are quote of issues
associated with that offer which I think need to be
further talked about. I guess he's not too busy being
the CENI majority leader to keep up with the new
So I'm just saying, all right, Uh, thanks a bunch, Rebecca,

(01:54:15):
thank you, neon'm be, thanks Metal Andrew. I appreciate y'all
being on today's panel. Thank you so very much. Uh, folks,
these people are just crazy. They just absolutely so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
I just I mean I just sit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
There and I'm like, y'all really really just the MOTI
ship we gotta deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
But I mean that's that's how they roll. So all right, folks, Uh,
that's it for us.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Lots more we gotta we'll be covering keeping up with
some stuff. Let me see if you got anything new,
anything or anything. I told y'all we yesterday, Uh we were.
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