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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up Today's Monday, June second, twenty twenty five, coming
up on roller Market on Folks with a streaming live
on the Black Start Network. Republicans want to strip a
county commissioner seat from black.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Folks in Taran County is where Fort Worth is. We'll
talk about this here, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is blatant discrimination by Republicans in Texas. Also, Tulsa's
first black mayor establishes a reparations plan for the survivors
of the Tulsa race Master, who will talked to the
mayor as well as Mario Sullivan Simmons about.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
This important important decision.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Boy, they are ripping Republicans. Senator Joni Ernst from Iowa,
where she said, in response.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
To someone saying, you guys are going.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
To cause folks to die because of Medicaid cuts, she goes, well,
we're all gonna die anyway. Bishop William Barbara had a
few words to say about that.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Also on today's short, the Federal.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Appeals Court has blocked the Trump administration from slashing thousands
of federal gibs. Will unpack that ruling as well, plus
Moral Monday begain on Bishop William Barbara more Monday continued
in the nation's capital, we'll hear from Bishop Barbara about that.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It's time to bring the funk rolling on the black said,
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It's proven.
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He's broke Spress, she's real. The question though, he's proven.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Function.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Norman were talking about talking about Redicar team that happens
every ten years. Yet Republicans in Texas said, not, I
forget that. We can do this anytime we want to.
The county judge in Tarrant County, Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That's where Fort Worth in Arlington is located.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
He's decided that, you know what, we're going to do
this right now. So what they want to do is
they want to pretty much destroy a pre sint or
a kind of judge position. We're an African American and
currently sits at that job. So what they want to
do is they want to strip. They want to move
a lot of black folks from that district and move
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them over to and pack them into one particular district,
diminishing two Democrats who sit on the Terran County Commissioner's Court.
Commissioner Alisa Simmons has really been fighting this tooth and nail.
She's actually having a town hall in less than an
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hour in for Worth talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
This very issue.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You have congress from markin VC cardinalist blatant discrimination, and
Democrats are saying, why are they rushing to actually do this?
Speaker 9 (03:45):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Guess what?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
A Republican state legislator resigned today from the Texas Legislature
in order to run for the seat hasn't even been
created yet, y'all. So the commissioners are going to vote
tomorrow is pretty much a faith complete.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
They have a.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Three to two majority on the Commissioner's Court, so this
is going to take place tomorrow. Again, You've got civil
rights groups others blasting decision, no doubt in my mind,
a court a lawsuit that's going to be filed here.
But it goes to show you how Republicans are scared
to death of the power of the black vote by
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panel dot to Omi Congo to being the senior Profacery
Electors School by National Service American University author.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Of lies about black people.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
How to combat racist Also Ravan Schwan Curtis, content creator,
keynote speaker out of Chicago State represented, Derek Jackson out
of Georgia, Jones from Atlanta. Glad to have three of
you here. They're going to start with you. You know about
this process.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
This is what legislatives go through. But this is different.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can you have a Republican county judge who wants to
redraw the lines of the court there in Tarran County
and it's undenied. I mean, the maps don't lie. And
matter of fact, UCLA has done their own analysis saying
it will be blatant discrimination to pack black people, to
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remove them from one from one precinct and pack them
into another precinct. This is literally what the Supreme Court
has actually ruled against.
Speaker 9 (05:24):
You know, Rolyn, When you think about discriminating the voices
of the people and disenfranchising the voice of the people,
they were jerry Mander and full transparency. Both Republicans and
Democrats have done this.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
But to the point that.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
You're making, when the Supreme Court back in July of
twenty thirteen remove Section five, that preclearance requirement where states
could not simply just go in and start redistricting because
they feel like it, they had to go through a
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process up to the Department of Justice. Now, quite frankly,
we also know that if the Civil Rights of the
DOJ was in place, that would also help this perspective too,
But unfortunately this administration gutted out the Civil Rights division
of the DOJ. So that's the reason why Texas and
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other Southern states they feel in powered rolling to be
able to do this whenever they can, how they can.
They don't have to wait every ten years that we
normally would do.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
This process is normally done every ten years.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
You get the census data and then you look at redistricting,
congressional district, state house, and so on and so forth.
But Texas feeling in power that they don't need to
they believe that they have the favor of the White
House and the DOJ to go ahead and do this
most distasteful. Uh, this honest, disrespectful thing to Jerry Mander's
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duly elected officials out of their district.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The thing here, Raven, is abuddily clear that we saw
this in Alabama.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We saw it in Louisiana where.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
The Supreme Court ruled that these legislators were stripping black
people of the representation. They created an opportunity district in Alabama.
They created a second congressional district in UH in Louisiana.
Now the question is will they You know, obviously.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
There's going to be a lawsuit here.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Now, I think where Republicans are suggesting is that, well,
in those cases, those are federal cases.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Let's see if they can get away with this UH
in the.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
State, because this is not a state seat, it's a
this is not a federal seat, it's a it's a county.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Seat in Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is but still it is absolute, undeniable racism and discrimination
by white Republicans in Texas.
Speaker 10 (08:10):
Absolutely Roland. I mean, this is a clear overreach of power.
But unfortunately we're not new to this, We're true to
this right. I live in Chicago, which is one of
the most segregated, redlined, jerry mandered cities in the entire country.
I spent a good chunk of my childhood in Houston, Texas.
I still have family out there planing there a week
and a half from now, So this doesn't surprise me
in the slightest. I'm sad to say, and of course,
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we know that Republicans have historically used mandering, this redistricting
to their favor right to try to vote us out
of power and political power. But it's not going to work.
There is going to be challenge to this, And honestly,
I think this situation really underlines why it's so so
deeply important that folks in our community are running for
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these positions or being appointed to them or being elected
to them, particularly as a commissioner.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Because otherwise we're not at the table making the decision.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
And I think in this moment that's just becomes so
abundantly clear to me as I'm watching so many of
my peers as a member of gen Z step up
to the plate and running for Congress. My friend Kat
is running for Congress here in Illinois. I have another
friend running for Congress in Arizona. And I think, really
the only way that we're going to be able to
push back meaningfully is if we have a seat at
the table. It's so important.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Macconngo the Republican County Judge Tim O'Hare very blunt, he said,
quote the mission is to get three Republican commissioners period.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Supreme Court previously said that they don't have a voice
in politico jerry mandry, but they do have a voice
in racial jerry mandring, and this specifically attacks black and
Latino voters in Precinct two in Terran County.
Speaker 11 (09:50):
Yeah, and what they're trying to do is have a
work around by talking about, oh, it's about ideology and
not race. I'm reading from a commissioner, Matt Kraus, who said,
who said, after hearing my entire goal, my entire purpose,
My entire intention is to allow Tarran County to go
from three Republicans two Democrats on the commissioner's core the
four Republicans and one Democrat. And so they feel like
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if they can wrap anything in that political party, they
can avoid anything relating to race.
Speaker 12 (10:17):
And I think, really at the end of the day, you.
Speaker 11 (10:18):
Know, going off of what's been said already, we have
to show that we're more politically.
Speaker 12 (10:23):
Excute than that in terms of how we fight.
Speaker 11 (10:25):
Unfortunately, Roland, I don't know where anybody else is getting
this story, with the exception of the Blackstar Network and
people who beat print journalism, and so it is really
up to us to support the members of that local community.
So we can put this type of pressure on them
because this can fail, but it's only going to fail
with action from the community. And so but this is
also happening all across the country. It's never going to stop.
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And that's why we have to continue to make sure
that we don't sleep on these particular issues because they're
going to go through rape, they're gonna go to ideology
and political party, so on and so forthward. We know
every single time it always comes down a race, and
they feel they're going to keep pushing it so they
can get something to the Supreme Court again and again
and again. They're like Trump, They're never going to stop.
They're going to keep throwing spagheti after wall and see
what sticks. And they think that they're going to be
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successful with this as well.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And again, this is why I keep trying to tell
people why voting matters and why we are trying to
keep your breast to what's going on. This is what
Republicans are doing across the country. They are scared of
black people, they're scared of brown people. They do not
want to lose their white power. And that's what this
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bails down to, pure and simple. Got to go to
break we come back. Lots of talk about, including what's
happening in a Tulsa, Oklahoma where the newly elected black
mayor is finally doing something that residents.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Feer had been asking for for a very long time.
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Said, come, let's go. This goes a hold on me.
I'm just like, let's go to the right. We're here.
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black African.
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He said, I'm like, you just go in there. But
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Speaker 1 (13:56):
You know.
Speaker 17 (13:56):
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Speaker 1 (14:00):
People will fight it.
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Want, you're watching Rutland Martin.
Speaker 17 (14:22):
I'm filmed it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Folks want I want to continue the conversation I was
talking about there when.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We're talking what was happening in Terren County.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But but I also but I want to take it
to this place we talk about why we must be
maximizing our power. Doctor Jeryl Horn was on the show
on Friday and we talked about the fact that there
are more eligible black voters in Texas than any other
state in the Union. Let me see it again, there
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are more eligible black voters in Texas in any state
in country. Morethern Mississippi, more than Maryland, more than Georgia,
more than South Carolina. We can go on and on
and on, but the question still becomes when we talk
about Texas, we talk about other states. We talk about
then on the city level, how do we maximize our vote.
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You take Atlanta, Atlanta's no longer a majority black city.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Something a little bit of freaking out by that. I
don't know why they're freaking out.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
By it, because if you're still forty forty five, forty
eight percent, you still can actually control the politics of
the city.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But the question is will we be turning out in
significant numbers?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And this is where I have consistently said our goal
cannot be waiting on a candidate or a.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Party that is going to excite us and motivate us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What must be motivating us is our agenda and recognizing
that when we don't show up, what we're doing is
we basically are losing our power.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We basically are ceding it to someone else.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And that really has to be our state of mind, Raven.
We must begin to look at how do we fun
black political groups. I always say this, You know, you
can send money to a candidate or to a party,
but what I'm tired of is us investing in organizations
and campaigns and then hoping and praying and then and
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complaining or that money doesn't come back to our community
when you know, when with black men, when we had
our Zoom call the day after President Biden chose not
to run, we raised one point five million dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We actually kept almost five.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Hundred thousand of that A million went to the campaign
the vice president, Vice President Harris, but almost.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
A half million actually kept.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And a lot of people a problem with that, that
will bothered by it. And I said, we will upfront
with it because we said, no, we're going to send
this money directed to black male groups ourselves and not
hope a campaign wakes up. This is a moment where
we as African Americans must be thinking and operating in
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a different way, because if we don't, we're going to
be at risk of frankly, seeing our votes stay at
home and not maximizing our power.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Absolutely, I mean, I think you're spot on.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Just because we don't choose politics doesn't mean politics don't
choose us, and we do have a fundamental responsibility to
show up for one another. I think one of the
most loving things we can do as a black community
is show up to the voting booth. It is absolutely paramount,
and I don't know why so many people discount it.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
It's integral to our liberation.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
If we don't opt into these systems at least to
some extent, and try to transform them and reform them,
then how are we going to get free? And I
understand fundamentally the argument that, hey, these are broken systems.
These are systems that have been built on our subjugation
and through logics of enslavement in the Antebellum era, that
were fundamentally organized and orchestrated to be violent towards us.
I totally understand that line of thinking and that can't
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be the beginning and end.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Of it, right.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
We have to figure out how to reform these systems
even as we imagine what life looks like and liberation
looks like and excess of them beyond them. And so
I really just implore like folks to show up run
for local office. There's a big push for that right now.
There's a really important moment that we're in where so
many seats are opening up, and I hope that that
folks in our community will rise to the occasion because
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no one else is coming to save us.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
It has to be us.
Speaker 10 (18:41):
We have to organize both politically and economically like never before.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh mycono, What I look at when I look at
these elections, what I pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I don't pay attention to percentages. I want to know
raw numbers. I want to look at what you know,
what is the.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Percentage of the black population and the eligible So that
there's different levels here, So the percentage of the black population,
and then the next level is eligible black voters, Then
the next level is registered black voters. Then the final
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one is actual turnout of black voters. And I just
think that the mistakes are being made when in a
lot of these places. We're seeing city elections sixteen eighteen,
twenty percent turnout total turnout, and then when you look
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at black turnout twenty eight thirty thirty two.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And I keep making the argument.
Speaker 19 (19:47):
That if our target goal should be seventy percent, we
hit seventy percent of black turnout, we sweep elections.
Speaker 12 (19:58):
Yeah, absolute, absolutely.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
And it's like it's like you're talking about what Texas
as well as and I watched you interview with a
Doctrin last week. It was incredible as well, you know,
large numbers of black voters, you know, being in Texas
as well. And the fact of the matter is this
is a lesson that Democrats should be learning from the
They should have learned from the jump, but they continue
not to do so. And I'm a little bit nervous
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because we're talking about cities and elect but even as
we expanded to the states and going to these you know,
next president until elections, we see all these potential candidates
doing all of this work to try to you know,
appeal to the list chainey voters of the world as
opposed to activate that black vote. I mean, that black
vote is really what's needed in so many of these states,
but they continue to look at these individuals as people
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are just not going to be engaged in the process.
Those potential black voters realize that they don't care about
them being engaged in the process, and then they don't
engage them, and so this cycle has to be broken,
and unfortunately, the hope would be that it would be
broken by many black people in these communities who just
had had enough and finally going to you know.
Speaker 12 (21:01):
Get to the polls.
Speaker 11 (21:01):
And that's happening someplaces there, but it's not happening on
a larger scale. People are still waiting for an Obama
tape figure or some type of charismatic leader, you know,
to activate them.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And we have to be better than that.
Speaker 12 (21:13):
We have to be beyond that, and we have to
be stronger than that.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
And one thing, going back to what you're saying about
you all keeping you know, the money that you some
of the money that you all raised. That's extremely important
as well, because people respond to the dollars. People you know,
who are politicians, they're responding to the dollars. And if
we're saying we are going to allocate this as opposed
to sending it to places like you know, Blue, Another place,
not saying anything wrong with those organizations, but we also
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have to assert our dominance economically as well by showing
that we control these purse strings as well and make
the politicians work.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
For that money as well. If we do that, we
can start making a change by following this blueprint.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
The the thing here, Derek, and listen, Georgie is a
perfect example.
Speaker 20 (21:57):
You have.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Beyond Fulton County, Gwenett County. We start talking about rural
eras as well. You have a significant black population, but
they have to be maximized. In order to maximize it, though,
get a talk to them, you have to appeal to them.
And so what I'm suggested that for African Americans, when
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we look at the places where we make up twenty
thirty forty forty five, forty eight percent or more, frankly,
we should be doing more with that voting power as
opposed to too many of us sitting at home.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
Roland, You're exactly right when you think about Georgia. There's
eleven million citizens in Georgia. Of that eleven million, five
point one million actually vote, and of that five point
one million, two point seven million are register Black voters. Well,
that two point seven million resister black voters. At best,
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you may get forty to fifty percent, depending on what
kind of race, where the race, you know, for example,
when Senator Warnight was on the ballot versus when he
was not on the ballot. Who's on the top of
the ticket. But I think the solution is very simple,
rolling you set it yourself on your show. Invest, invest, invest.
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We got to invest in us. We got to invest
in black candidates, We got to invest in black media,
we got to invest in black organizations, we got to
invest in black grassroots campaign organizations, we got to invest
in black in brown communities.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
If we do exactly what you have always.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Been said, invest, invest in best, because the turnout is
not just going to magically happen because you have a
black candidate on the ticket. We're far smarter than that.
But if you don't invest where these black votes are,
you cannot expect to get sixty seventy eighty percent turnout
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that you're articulating.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
And so if we don't do what you've been talking about,
I mean, I was just amazed to go do my homework.
Not that I didn't believe you, but when you.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Broke down Kamala Harris nearly two billion dollars, and ninety
three percent of that nearly two billion dollars went to
white corporations, ninety three percent rolling. I had to go
do homework because I'm like, okay, homework assignment. You cannot
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expect to invest ninety three percent into white companies into
trying to turn out the.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
White vote, white men vote, white.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Women vote where they continue to show since nineteen sixty four.
We don't care how much money you throw at the
Democratic Party for the white vote is not going to happen.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Turn this around your measure, rolling.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
If they were invest in Gary down in Louisiana just
about three million dollars, Gary would be a United States
Senator in Louisiana. If you invest in Tie, our frat
brother that's running for US Senate in Mississippi, if you
gave him two million dollars, the turnout insis Mississippi vote.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
Incredulous for all this money to be in politics, rolling
for them not to basically subscribe to what.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
The solution that you continue to talk about.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
You've got to invest, invest, invest in black media, black candidates,
and black communities absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
As the only way. All right, folks, gonna go to
a quick break. We come back, we can talk about
what's happening in tulsa.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Perfect example of what happens when we maximize our vote
and we changed the leadership. We'll talk about how the
folks so will been impacted by the Tulsa race mask
and more than a hundred years ago, are finally finally
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The fourth anniversa of the nineteen twenty one Tulsa race massacre,
one of the deathlest attacks on black life in American history,
Tosa's first black Mayor, Monroe Nichols, unveiled a bold new
plan called the Road to Repair. It deals with something
that has been asked by residents there for quite some time.
The white leadership of Tulsa and Oklahoma has never actually
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stepped up. But this is what happens when we use
our power to put one of our own in office.
Joining us right now is Mayor Nichols, glad to have
you back on the show. In addition to that, Sibroch
attorney to Mario Solomon Simmons, founder of Justice for green Wood,
glad to have him as.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Well, me and Nichols.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Nichols, I want to start with you walk me through
the process of putting this together and making this announcement,
because again, this is something that the Mario and others
have been you know, demanding for a very very long time,
but they were getting nowhere with city Hall in Tulsa
before you worse one.
Speaker 25 (29:32):
In Yeah, I want to say first thank you Roland
for allowing us to be on and thank you for
all your advocacy for what goes on here in Tulsa.
I also got to thank my brother to Mario. You
asked about the process for getting here. The process started
with people like to Mario who've been fighting for justice
for years. To Mario and others came to me with
ideas about how we, you know, begin to repair the harm,
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and we had a great conversation and from that came
the road to repair. This plan is reflective of justice
for Greenwood's recommendations. It's fully reflective of beyond the Apology
Commission's recommendations.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
It is a reflection of the descendant community.
Speaker 25 (30:09):
And I'll be really honest, there's still a lot of
work to do, but everything in this plan came directly
from the folks who have been on the ground for
a long time doing this work. And that's why I'm
so proud for the work that we have out in
front of us. But it comes from people like to Mario,
So I can't thank him enough for his advocacy over
the years, his fight over the years. He was doing
it before it was cool, and I'm just happy to
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be a part of bringing some repair to this community
that has gone for far too long without it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So walk us through exactly what you laid out.
Speaker 25 (30:40):
Yeah, So it's one hundred and five million dollars is
a private chedital trust. One hundred and five million dollars,
twenty four million of it dedicated to housing and homeowners ownership.
That was the recommendations of Beyond the Apology Commission, sixty
million dollars really focused on investment in the surviving entities.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Roland.
Speaker 25 (30:58):
I know you've been to the Greenwood dish, those buildings
that are there, those buildings that survived the massacre. Again,
this is a Justice for Greenwood recommendation, making sure we're
investing in those things so we not only preserve our history,
but create the kind of economic conditions that brings back
what was all special and great about the Greenwood District.
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And then the last piece of between one million dollar
endowment fund to invest in scholarships for descendants, to invest
in business grants and no interest loans for companies owned
by descendants, and it continues our grades investigation so we
can do our work to bring closure to families. It
is really about us taking the next big steps and
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the work that we need to do in Tulsa. But
the one thing I always say, and to Mario knows
this about me, You probably know this about me. I
still say it is still incomplete, but these are the
steps we're taking. One hundred and five million dollar investment
that goes into recreating what was special and what was
great about the Greenwood District and having that work start
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right here the Mayor's office along with our community partners
at the recommendation of people like Da Mario Solomon Simmons.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
That's the road to repair that we a own in Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Right now, to Mario, I got your text over the weekend,
and I'm gonna use and steal a phrase from that
Reverend doctor Frederick Douglas's Hanes of third.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Years who haven't been album. He always says Peacock.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Proud, hyena happy, that's how you work.
Speaker 15 (32:26):
Oh absolutely, man, It's so good to be out here
with both of you all. And I just want to
say for the.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Mayor, man leadership matters.
Speaker 26 (32:34):
I just want you guys to know we're so proud
a Mayor Nichols, not just because of what he's doing
here on this particular issue, but how he's leading the city.
Speaker 15 (32:41):
And I think yesterday I'm just asking everyone.
Speaker 26 (32:44):
If you get a chance, go listen to his speech.
It was one of the best speeches I've ever heard.
It was truly presidential speech. He laid out the case
not only why this should happen, but what it will
look like, not just for us as descendants in the
agree with community, but for Tulsa movement. I truly believe
the way that Tulsa and Greenwell was the beacon of
life for all of Black.
Speaker 15 (33:05):
America before the massacre.
Speaker 26 (33:07):
If we are fully implementing this plan, and as the
mayor said, this is just the start of a plan,
but once we fully implemented, this will be a model
the communities around this country can actually make happen for
their community. So we are excited. We're excited to continue
to work with the mayor. We know it's going to
be a lot more work to put everything together, and
I'm asking everyone that's listening tonight, connect with us, connect
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with Mayor.
Speaker 15 (33:29):
Nicholas, connect with us, and justice for Greenwood. We need
to raise this money. We need to make sure that
this plan has the success it should have.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Themorrio, Let's just be clear, yelevated fighting this for a
very long time, and you were getting nowhere with previous leadership.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Darren Tulsa.
Speaker 22 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 26 (33:49):
I mean, you know, I'm twenty five plus years into
this thing, and we've gotten We've got any every way
you can possibly You've gotten, know from the federal government,
know from the state government, know from local government. You know,
we went to the Department of Justice, We've been to Congress,
We've been everywhere. But the thing about this administration is
that they are listening to the people.
Speaker 15 (34:09):
I think Mayor Nicol said it best.
Speaker 26 (34:11):
He's listening to a broad group of people here in
Tulsa that's fighting in this fight, people.
Speaker 15 (34:15):
Who have been who are descendants and packing all of
these ideas. Yesterday was one of them.
Speaker 26 (34:20):
It was so beautiful to be doing this on the
first ever Tulsa Remembrance Holiday that the Mayor created at
our recommendation.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
To have all the groups there, all of our elected the.
Speaker 26 (34:31):
Leaders, are some of our most prominent pastors, and hundreds
of descendants.
Speaker 15 (34:35):
And community members.
Speaker 26 (34:37):
Everyone was there, and we're so excited to continue this
work and we're just going to do the hard work
to make sure because the goal is by one oh five,
which is next year, twenty twenty six, and this plan
is funded and we're moving these things forward, and it's
just the beginning.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Mayor, when we were there for the one hundred, that
was this huge gathering at the Committion Center, and I
went by and I was actually supposed to speak, but
I had to I had to leave because we had to.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Be inside of the perimeter when President Biden was was speaking.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
And I really did want to speak because what bothered
me yet all of these organizations, all of these financial institutions,
banks and others. They were having this conference about reinvesting
and pigging back on what happened in Greenwood, and I
remember asking to Mario, are any of these folks doing that?
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And I took a picture of all of these different sponsors,
and I said, every single.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
One of these people who were on that listing as a.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Sponsor should be reinvesting in Greenwood as opposed to just
trying to get frankly, some good pr And that's what
always bothers me when folks step out and they want
to sponsor stuff, But then when the cameras leave, so
do they.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know, Roland.
Speaker 25 (36:04):
One of the things that I talked about yesterday or
yeah yesterday in my speech was this reality that for
so long this issue has been politically charged, people have
been afraid of it. We don't have to fear each other.
We don't have to have an argument about what to do.
We already know undeniable, the master happened undeniable. There are
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clear recommendations of what to do about it. Let's just
talk about it in very direct terms. On that day
four years ago that you were talking about, when President
Biden was here in Tulsa, he said something that stuck
with me ever since then. I was a state legislator
at the time. I was in the room with you
and Tomorrio. He said, we have to find the courage
to the things that we know we can change, and
I know we have limitations. I know things are difficult,
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but we're not going to wait. And so those same
folks who are investing because they're too afraid to touch
these issues that they may have felt were politically charged,
we're going to say no, no, no, We're going to
have this conversation right now, and yes, we can all
have a share in move this thy forward. It is
my belief that Tulsa has hit a plateau in some ways,
and that plateau is there because we have this thing
(37:08):
that we have to go back. I said yesterday, we
are making it clear that hate, even aged one hundred
and four years, will never win, and so now we're bringing.
Speaker 8 (37:17):
Back people back into the conversation.
Speaker 25 (37:19):
I think what was missing before, and this is not
a shot at anybody who came before me, what was
missing before was the courage talking direct terms about this
issue and rally people around it.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
And that's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But also think mayor tomorrow you can hop in here
as well. I think also what it works was this
unwillingness to correct the wrong and it was excuses when
city leadership spent what was the number to Mario thirty
forty million to build a museum, which really was about
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trying to attract tourism. I'm sorry they Greenwood folks didn't
need didn't need a museum.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
The area needed investment.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
Yeah, you know, Roland.
Speaker 25 (38:11):
One thing I'll say and tomorrow, I'm sorry for cutting
you off. But the one thing I'll say is that
that's because that's what we've always known. We all know
of museums that commemorate things in parts of a community
where you didn't invest in what was there before. The
Tulsa race masker is not It may have been the worst,
but it was not as far from the only And
we've all been to the museums in all these different
parts of the country. But what we don't see around
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those museums oftentimes is the economic investment to restore what
was lost as we think about as we think about those.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Points in our history.
Speaker 25 (38:43):
I think, and I talked about this essay, I think
this is a moment of national significance. I think finding
a pathway by which everybody else can think about how
do you do it? Is really important because I agree
with you, you got to do more than just remember.
And we've been in that remembering phase and I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna to say all that was wrong.
But what I will say is it wasn't enough. It
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wasn't enough, and I think you could say that about
so many different cities across this country. So my great
hope and my people here are descendants from Greenwood, but
I know there are other people from across the country
and other communities across the country, and I hope they
take note at what you can do. You have to
listen to the people who have been most impacted, and
you have to act.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
And that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 15 (39:25):
Yeah, go ahead. I'm just gonna say he said it perfectly.
Speaker 26 (39:29):
I think everybody here is under the taking this leadership
from our mayor, all aspects of the community to come
together and saying we want to do something that is
real and that can be emulated across this nation.
Speaker 15 (39:41):
And I just want to just again thank the mayor.
Speaker 26 (39:43):
For his leadership, because hey, this is a tough issue
that for one hundred and four years people have run
away from.
Speaker 12 (39:49):
He's run to it.
Speaker 26 (39:50):
And again I just encourage everyone to listen to that speech,
how he laid it down.
Speaker 15 (39:54):
One of the things he said yesterday I thought was
so powerful. He said people were asked, well, why are
we doing this now?
Speaker 26 (39:59):
Why does it take so long and why should we
deal with something that was one hundred and four years ago?
He said, because this is what right and decent people do.
And I think he made a benchmark, a demarcation. Those
who are on the side of repair are writing decent people.
Those who are against it, well, you're not writing decent people.
Speaker 15 (40:15):
I think it's just that simple.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
And another thing I think.
Speaker 26 (40:18):
The mayor done that was so important here. This is
not about race. This is about those who were harmed descendants.
This is why it's so important the work that we
do with justice for Greenwood, for chronicling descendants and verifying
people who they are, because there are people in the community,
even in the Greenwood community, and we have Mexican American
John Villareal, we have a Japanese family that was impacted
by the massacre. And so I think the way the
(40:40):
mayor is talking about this is very important. Not only
will the repair of Greenwood, but it will remove our
city forward.
Speaker 15 (40:45):
And that's the most powerful think about this. What Tulsa
can be.
Speaker 26 (40:49):
When the Greenwood community and descendants are repaired and made whole,
How great Tulsa can be.
Speaker 15 (40:54):
And that's part of the leadership of Mayor Nichols.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
All right then, well, Mary Nichols, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Mario, I appreciate it as well.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Look forward to getting back to Telsa. Whether you have
groundbreaking for some of these initiatives. Letting folks know what's
going on there.
Speaker 15 (41:12):
Sounds good.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
Thanks rolling all.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Right, appreciate it. Thanks a lot, folks, Going to a break.
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All right, folks at my panel here, and I'll start
with a congo.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
The point that the mayor made there, I think is
critically important, and the demorrow made as well, is that, Okay,
you know what, we can keep commemorating, we can keep
looking back, but you can also be forward.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Thinking, and this is what leadership does.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
And to the previous segment, this is also what happens
when black folks put black folk in office who respond
to community needs.
Speaker 11 (43:58):
Man, there's so much the process from that incredible interview.
The first thing that came to mind was everything you
were talking about when investing were the same comments.
Speaker 12 (44:06):
I will hear you talking about.
Speaker 11 (44:07):
What selma every year and what SMA actually looks like.
But people just come and go once a year, and
so it had me thinking about that. I also it
had me thinking about our first segment when they were saying, oh,
this isn't about race, and so on and so forth.
You see what they are in terms of what they're
doing in Terrek County, and you see what the mayor
is doing. Now it's like, this isn't about our race.
This is about what's right. And so it shows what
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happens when people use the same playbook, but to do
the right thing, to do the righteous thing for all
people in the community involved. Another thing that I appreciate
is that a lot of people don't talk about the
fact is that the people of Greenwood, you know, they
actually rebuilt after nineteen twenty one, but by the nineteen
forties going into the fifties there were their community was
(44:52):
destroyed again, but this time it was by government policies
things like you know, denying access to credit, redlining, all
all of these different types of things. And so he's
using the political power to make sure the community is restored.
And this has to be a blueprint for people all
across the country. And if I had had a chance
to ask him a question, I wasn't going to ask
(45:14):
what type of pushback is he dealing with from the
governor or the Trump administration because that response is also
going to be a necessary blueprint for America as well.
Speaker 12 (45:23):
In these black spaces.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Well, the governor and Trump can't tell them how to
spend their all money, so that's born.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
I mean, they can say something raven, but they can't
tell them how to spend their own money.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
That's right, Roland, that is absolutely right.
Speaker 10 (45:40):
And to piggyback off of what my co panelist said,
you know, I really really appreciate what Mayor Nichols said
about needing to be brave, right, we need to do
more than just remember.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
And I think it's amazing that we.
Speaker 10 (45:51):
Have electeds like Mayor Nichols, who's in this position of
power and using it for good to pour into community.
At the same time, I wish it didn't always have
to be us doing the labor transparently, right, there is
so much precedent for reparations, both within a US context
and outside of US context. You know, after you know
the Holocaust, Germany gave reparations to Jewish survivors of the Holocaust.
(46:15):
In South Africa, survivors and victims of apartheid did receive
a form of reparations. It is a deeply imperfect apparatus
and system to try to repair harm that is intangible,
is epigenetic, is deep, is spiritual, but there's deep precedent
for it, and it does frustrate me. I have to
be transparent that it's always black folks who have to
(46:37):
do the labor to save us, Like it'd be so
lovely if other folks would jump into the cup with us.
I also am based in Chicago and up in Evanston,
there was this really i mean groundbreaking reparations initiative that
was fearheaded by Robin Rue Simmons, and this was the
first US city to implement reparations program in twenty twenty one.
(46:58):
So it's fabulous that we're doing the work, and I
wish it didn't always have to be us. And also,
you know, I think sometimes we talk about reparations in
a way where it gets framed as the thing that
will get us to liberation. And I want to be
really clear, I think reparations is a crucial, crucial piece
of the puzzle. And at the same time, how does
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one quantify this deep communal trauma?
Speaker 30 (47:20):
Right?
Speaker 10 (47:21):
And I think so much of how we get free
is actually a question to white people. I think of
that really powerful interview that James Baldwin did obviously a
number of decades ago, where he was asked about the
N word and how he relates to the N word,
and his response was, when I think of the N word,
I actually think about white people. And why y'all needed
to create this moniker, this caricature of who I am,
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because that's not who I am. To make sense of yourself,
because the way that whiteness is made legible is by
measuring itself against what it's not. And so I guess
I say that to say that so much of this
conversation is yes, let's harness our economic power, let's pour
into community that's been harmed, let's lean into a sort
of justice. And another huge piece of that puzzle is
like changing minds and hearts. At what point, as a
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nation are we fully going to reckon with the fact
that there has been a profound dehumanization of black people
in this country, that every institution of this country is
built on set to humanization. And until white people ask
themselves why why they needed that to make themselves legible,
to make themselves feel whole or good.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
We're not going to get anywhere, Derek, what you're saying
right here, this is of course Uncle Red.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
He was one of the three survivors.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
This was when we were there in twenty twenty one.
He passed a couple of years ago and did not
get to see this day to there too.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
His sister is still with us. There's another surviviracy with
us as well, you know.
Speaker 29 (48:50):
And the thing that I needed people people to understand
is like, I understand Raven's point, but guess what, hell
if other folks are going to do what's right, that's
why we should put folks in office who gonna do
what's right.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
So the hell was waiting on him? So finally, and
again this is time, and so had we had the
sister in Everston on the show, we had her on,
we have others, and so I'm just like, hey, I
ain't waiting on him. Let us do what we do.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
Yeah, you're exactly right, Roland.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
And when you think about I appreciate you showing that
picture of Uncle Red. He was one hundred and two
and unfortunately, to your point, he passed away two years ago.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
But his sister, you know, it's one hundred and ten.
And then they got another survivor what's her name. Let's
let's see.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Ms.
Speaker 8 (49:43):
Lessie.
Speaker 9 (49:43):
She's one hundred and nine. And that's my prayer is
for them to see the fullness of justice. Reparations, restitution,
all that matters.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
But this is about justice too, Roland.
Speaker 9 (49:57):
A mob of angry white men, three hundred to four
hundred angry white men.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
Came into a black wall street.
Speaker 9 (50:08):
These black families were doing their thing, they had their businesses,
they were thriving and surviving, and they were killed because
of the pigmentation of their skin.
Speaker 8 (50:21):
And so justice to me means it goes beyond just reparation,
goes beyond just restitution. Just to make sure that.
Speaker 9 (50:32):
Miss Viola and Miss Lessie see justice in the manner
before they too transitioned like Uncle Red. We got to
put people in office. And when people get in office,
they don't do what happened over in California. Where in
California they stopped their own reparations bill, And we can
(50:55):
talk about that another day. But when we get in position,
we act to have the LEADLeadership and the courage to
make it happen.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Absolutely and we actually had. Of course, we just discussed
that on the show as well. What took place, the
absolute craziness that happened there in California. Yard folks, going
to a break, we come back, we're going to talk
about Bishop William Barber, and of course more Monday's arrest
taking place as they continue.
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From the A and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
So America is a a America's at a crossroad, say
moral crisis. That warning comes from Bishop William bar where
As federal leaders continue Republicans federal not federal leaders. Republicans
continue to push forward with a budget proposal that could
merely slash programs essential to millions of poor, working class Americans,
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from medicaid to.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Food assistants, housing support, and social security.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Of these programs are now on the shopping block, and
the Bishop Barber repairs of the brief por People's campaign are.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Sounding the alarm.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
They continued there Monday Monday Moral Monday effort in Capitol
Hill today where they would go to the Capitol uh
and pray.
Speaker 16 (53:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
And what happens They keep getting arrested uh and uh, which.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Makes absolutely no sense because I thought these Republicans are
so called evangelicals. I thought, speaking Mike Johnson, uh is
uh you know, uh miss you know, mister morality. But
it's amazing how they got a problem when folks uh
actually pray, who goes against what they are doing. Bishop
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Barbara Joseph right now on the phone, Bishop, you and
others were rested today.
Speaker 20 (54:08):
We were I'm sorry, I think I'll make me in
your video. I'm looking kind of rough. I'm just getting
out of paddywagon. But on all serious note, Roland, yeah,
we were nine people were arrested. They even rested today
a lady with cerebral pausey in a wheelchair. We had
two shoe groups going in. The second group was basically
hindered from going in. But the bottom line is today
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we had people testify, folk who had a quart of allegiates,
people with cerebral paulsy. One mother who has a daughter
whose child would be dead if she did not have MEDICID.
What's needed like a pastor preature with lucas and her
family members have had lucas and died from it, you know.
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And religious leaders from across the board, from the moms
to Jewish women to the bishop of the nine Church,
of the Presbyterian Church. You see seed and so far
and so on. This budget roller is deadly. And when
you hear the Senator in Iowa as we can. When
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she was questioned in Iowa and somebody said, Senator, people
will die, her response was We're all gonna die. And
then later on Roland she put on the social media
that if people were worrying about the eternal life, she
would introduce them to Genus. But the genus I know
healed people. The Genus I know, and you know, never
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charged the left of cope. This is a sick deal.
It's not big and beautiful as big and bad and
deadly and dangerous. We're talking about fourteen million people being
thrown off a Medicaid roland, and we know, we know
for a fact that for every five hundred thousand people
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thrown that don't have health insurance, about twenty five hundred
to twenty nine hundred die. It's a serious business and
it is the place that could actually unify us. This
is why today we had hundreds of people black and white,
brown and Asian and Native and two for the matter
is role and the last thing. More people would have
gone into the rotunda, but they've got this rule now
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that you can't go in unless you're in a tour
or you have a congressional staffers that will take you in. Now,
it's been interesting to me that some of the Democratic
congress persons when we ask about letting a staff person
to us, they kind of get skintis. I don't know why,
but thank god for Congressman al Green because he.
Speaker 8 (56:41):
Has You broke up there.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
You said, thank God for Congressman al Green. Then you
broke up.
Speaker 20 (56:53):
Because Al Green every time the sins of con sense
for his staffers to come down and help him get
into the rotunda. Unless you go through the tour. I
mean the way they have it something and I recognize
since January sixth. But the point of the matter is Roland.
Not only do those people claim to believe in prayer.
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You know they are praying p R E Y I
n G on the poorest. But a few months ago
they had a prayer service in the rotunda with one
of their own. But instead of having that with us,
they're choosing to literally get free warnings and arrest and
as I said today, they even arrested Mike Johnson authorized
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them even arrested a woman with cerebral palsy today in
a wheelchair simply because she's saying, don't kill me, don't
take away my medicaid.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
But the point there that you make about these skittish democrats,
this is the problem.
Speaker 19 (57:54):
Folks want to see them fighting, and you don't fight
by being afraid to fight.
Speaker 8 (58:04):
Exactly.
Speaker 20 (58:05):
And what we're saying to them is just give us
ever when we come on Monday, just give us ten
staff people.
Speaker 8 (58:12):
To bring folk in. You know what the rules are.
Speaker 20 (58:14):
We're doing it in the non violent tradition, and you
have to fight back. People want to fight back. They
should be bringing in people like we're doing the impact
the people, people who put a face on the ugliness
of this bill, if we mess around and don't show
people how ugly this bill is not only but medicaid,
but the money it cuts from public education, the money
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it cut from snap, the money it cut from school lunches.
It doesn't provide any resources for living wages. It puts
more money into deportation, more money into defense contractors. It'll
raise the deficit about three point eighty three million dollars.
They want to input this bill in place for the
next ten years. This bill, if they do it, they
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want to get this is the largest, the largest transfer
of wealth from boid working people to the wealthy in
history except for the transfer of wealth that took place
between the slaves and the slave baskets.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
But this is the thing that again when we talk
about this deal, we talk about what they want to do.
You know, the Freedom Caucus they want more cuts, you
know that, you know they want two trillion. And the
reality is, while they're saying that they are trying to
make for the first time the Pentagon's budget hit a
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trillion dollars exactly.
Speaker 20 (59:43):
In fact, it will be over a trillion dollars, which
means roller that you could take the combined budgets of China, Russia, Iran, Iraq,
and North Korea and cut our defense budget in half
and it still would be more than all of those
budgets combined. Uh they And it must mean because those
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same people, the freedom caukers in that like, for instance,
in Texas, over three million Texans are on Medicaid, North
Carolina over two million, But every one of the Republicans
from Texas voted for this budget in the House the
first vote. Same thing with North Carolina, same thing with
West Virginia. So the part of it is if EDIEN
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doesn't do what you're doing, and too much of the
larger media is not doing this, they are not putting
a face on this. They're not telling the whole story.
They're not showing the people that the majority of the
people on Medicaid are people who make less than forty
thousand dollars a year. They are the working poor or
the disable. They're not talking about how this bill will
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her children and people in nursing home what they They
must be getting a lot of money from the from
the from the defense lobbyists and the war warrior economy
and we call it, uh, do what they're doing because
they have literally, uh, that's.
Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We have.
Speaker 20 (01:01:20):
Going to defense is connected to this Golden Dome and
connected to space exploration, which leads too must.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Well, I'll be honest, Bishop Barbara. That the issue.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I'm gonna tell you how how white mainstream media operates.
They focus on process. It's process. They don't believe it
impacted people.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I can tell you this.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
When I was at CNN and I was filling in
for Campbell Brown, I wanted to have people people on
the air live who had gone through bankruptcy because of
health care.
Speaker 19 (01:02:03):
This is when the Formable Care Act a huge issue.
And in fact, the person who was the person who
was sitting here arguing against me, her name is Rebecca Cutler.
She was a producer on the show. She's not a
president of MSNBC. And I'll never forget well, you know,
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I don't know. I don't know because you know, when
people alive, I said, y'all, I'm gonna be asking the
questions I can handle that they were.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Fighting me to fighting.
Speaker 19 (01:02:37):
Me to have people on the air who had gone
in the foreclosure, who had serious health health bills, who
were filing for bankruptcy because of health care, and I said, y'all,
there's nothing better to having impacting people.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
I'm sick and tired of there being.
Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Rallies and listening to members of Congress give long ass
speeches as opposed to a woman or a man or
a young person who can talk in a personal way
about how the bill is going to impact their life.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
That's where they keep screwing up.
Speaker 20 (01:03:23):
Impact. The people empowerful are powerful. And if the Congress
don't learn to do this and organizers don't learn how
to do this, this is not today, you know. I
spoke for maybe seven minutes today or so, just laying
out the framework. But the point where the builder stayed
for impact the people, that is.
Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
The key to keep. It's the power block we have
to lie for.
Speaker 20 (01:03:47):
Low wage folks is the power block that can be mobilized.
But you're not gonna do it by long speeches from
politicians and other vote.
Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
It's time for a movement vote.
Speaker 20 (01:03:58):
It's time for a move protests led by the voices
of the impact of people that the folk that will
suffer violence from this bill and other bills need to
be the ones that are being put forward now. And
make America look at herself, rolling your right on it,
and and god knows, we're going to keep pushing it.
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I'm hoping that folks will catch it, because if not,
the level of elitism is going to lead to a
continuing withdrawal of people from the political arena rather than
coming to it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
All right, Bishop Barber, we surely appreciate sir, keep up
the good word.
Speaker 20 (01:04:39):
Fractor, thank you, my friend, take care, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I'll go back to my panel and pulling the three
of you in here and Derek, uh, it really does
drive me crazy when we are when we're talking about
these issues and they'll be a rally and is politician
after politician after politician after politician after politician. And what
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I appreciate that Bishop Barbara does any time they have
a rally or protest, they put impacted people on the microphone.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
To tell their story.
Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
Yeah, Roland, you're exactly right.
Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
And I tell you, being an elected official, the approach
that you and our dear brother was talking about is
the right approach. We as elected officials do not need
to be at the microphone. We need to set the
stage and say fourteen million people and we're just going
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to bring up a few families of this estimated this
is an estimated number. Roller are the fourteen million people
that's going to be impacted. So we can say Republicans
continue to mock citizens who are afraid of losing their
health care, Medicaid, Affordable Care Act, et cetera, et cetera.
And so we have five, six seven, howe may mini
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families bring up to the stage. Folks don't need to
know their name. They just need to know that that
senior citizen Roland possibly could die.
Speaker 8 (01:06:27):
They need to know that that disabled person can possibly die.
Speaker 9 (01:06:32):
They need to know that children who are also on
Medicaid or Medicare, whatever the case may be, can possibly die.
The underserved can die. Now, some people will say, Roland,
we're taking it to the extreme. We're talking about fatalities
and death. But that's the reality. If a person don't
get their insulin, if they don't get whatever medication to
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sustain their life.
Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
We already see it.
Speaker 9 (01:06:58):
The last one hundred and ten days they started removing
medicine from those who are overseas through USAID rolling.
Speaker 8 (01:07:07):
They're dead now. Because when that.
Speaker 9 (01:07:10):
USAD forty eight billion dollars stop, people started dying, and that's.
Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
What this big ugly bill would do. Rolling.
Speaker 9 (01:07:19):
When you talk about the adding, and I appreciate you saying,
let's not talk about percent Let's talk about real dollars,
real dollars. Y'all, defense spending will go up one hundred
and forty nine billion dollars. As a retired military officer,
you don't need an addition one hundred and forty nine
billion dollars.
Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
There's no justification to go up border immigration.
Speaker 9 (01:07:42):
They're going to add another one hundred and forty seven
billion dollars rolling to do what.
Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
Oh, they want to expand ice, they want to expand
law enforcement and National Guard.
Speaker 9 (01:07:54):
They're going to cut eight hundred and twenty eight billion dollars.
Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
Now said they're gonna find two trillion dollars aways. Then
they had to revise it.
Speaker 9 (01:08:04):
They said, well, maybe we'll find one trillion dollars aways,
only to learn that they only discovered.
Speaker 8 (01:08:10):
One hundred and seventy five billion dollars, which was not waste.
Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
And so they're going to go forward with this big
ugly bill knowing that they cannot cover the cost of
this taxk cut, which will add to the deficit.
Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
You heard Bishop Barber there talk about I will send
a Jonie Ernst and I want to play for y'all
the video of what took place when someone in the
audience shouted shouted out, go gohe and play that.
Speaker 31 (01:08:51):
When we're talking about the corrections.
Speaker 8 (01:08:56):
When we're talking about the corrections.
Speaker 31 (01:08:58):
In this reconciliation bill, again, it's corrections of overpayments and
people that have not been eligible for these programs by
law as it is currently written. So when you are arguing,
when you are arguing about illegals that are receiving Medicaid
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benefits one point four million one point for they're.
Speaker 24 (01:09:23):
Not they are not eligible, so they will be coming off.
Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
So people are not well, we.
Speaker 8 (01:09:33):
All are going to die, so E says.
Speaker 31 (01:09:39):
But Ven said, folks, okay, no, but but well, what
you don't want to do is listen to me when
I say that we are going to focus on those
that are most vulnerable, those that meet the eligibility requirements
for Medicaid.
Speaker 7 (01:09:55):
We will protect.
Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
About. And then of course she took to Twitter to respond,
do y'all have that all right?
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Let me go ahead and pull it, because again her
response also is ticking lots of people off.
Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Let's see here, give me one second. Let's see I
can pull this up.
Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
This is pretty crazy with how she responded, and she
was really being trying to be petty her response. Here
we go, give me a second. Let me figure out
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what's going on with the audio.
Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I have it here, all right. Not sure what's going
on with the audio because I have it up here.
Speaker 12 (01:11:08):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Let me work on this, let me let me go
to let me go to Raven here.
Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
This is one of those moments, Raven where again, if
you are Democrats, I mean, you leverage this, you use this,
you you do all you can to show you how
frankly trifling Jonie Ernstein is, how uncan Republicans are about
these issues.
Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
Roland, I think that's absolutely right.
Speaker 10 (01:11:38):
This is a prime opportunity for us to let them
expose how they're lying, right, she said, the quiet part
out loud. Republicans do not care whether we live or die.
Do you know how arrogant you have to be to
be sitting in a room to serve your constituents and
someone is telling you you are making decisions that are
not not compatible with my access to life, liberty, and
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the pursuit of happiness, And to then look them in
the face and say, well, we're all going to die
one day, are you kidding me? Absolutely not, just bold
face lies. This bill is not about protecting the most vulnerable.
It's about exploiting the most vulnerable to put more money
in the pockets of billionaires so they can buy their
fifteenth and sixteenth yacht while we die because we're not
able to get the access to health care that we need.
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And I think what's so incredibly frustrating to me is
just the lack of moral and ideological consistency. I think
of Medicaid, for example, and about forty percent of birds
in this country are covered by Medicaid. So they want
us to have more babies, but they don't want to
make it financially accessible for us to do so. They
want us to have more babies, but they want to
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cut snap benefits so we can't feed them when we
get When they get here, they want us to have
more babies, but they don't want to implement comprehensive gun
reforms so that when they get here and they're in
the classroom, they're actually able to be safe and learn
safely and not have PTSD because they're exposed to violence
that they never should be exposed to in the first place.
It's the fundamental lack of moral on ideological consistency. I
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think it's really where we have an opportunity to get
a home run here, because it's clearly on blatant display.
Speaker 12 (01:13:13):
I'm the congo.
Speaker 11 (01:13:15):
I mean, the fact that she would not only say that,
but double down right out of the Trump playbook and
then go and record her response in a cemetery. Rolling
on top of that, it shows how comfortable these guys
think they are in their districts. And in addition to
the work that we need to do, hopefully these people
who are mad and angry and chanting and everything will actually.
Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
Get out in bote themselves.
Speaker 11 (01:13:38):
But there is there, Like you started a few segments ago,
there are enough Democrats, especially enough black Democrats, that can
give us the majority in the House. I can give
us the majority in the Senate if people would get
out and just see things like this. And this has
to be the job of the Democrats to make sure
that they're I mean, between this, there was another senator,
a Republican senator, who said something to the effect of
the best healthcare is a job. I mean, you know,
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it's like the things that they say that are so
out of touch with the people. But if the people
aren't hearing it, if the people aren't seeing it, then
they can get away with saying whatever they want because
we know that that Fox isn't going to cover this,
or O A Inn and so on and so forth.
And if people are getting a lot of their news
from various sources that don't cover this, they're not going
to see this.
Speaker 12 (01:14:19):
This is the job of the Democrats. Why aren't more
of them done at the Capitol.
Speaker 11 (01:14:23):
Why are more of them with Reverend Barber, you know,
talking about these particular issues and making themselves be known.
I mean, I don't know if any of them have
gotten arrested recently or gotten close to it, but they
have the ability. They have a bigger microphone than they
act like they do. And if they're not going to
take advantage of this, Republicans are just serving it up
rolling It's like every day, it's something different. A few
weeks and months ago, Chainsaw to bureaucacy with Elon Musk,
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like you could run down the list. And if they
don't take advantage of it again, twenty twenty six is
or any special election that's coming up between now and
our election to lose.
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Let me let me go ahead and play this ernest video.
Uh so just listen to this show. Let's go. Let's
see if I can. Yeah, let me get this straight.
Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
Hello, everyone, I would like to take this all right and.
Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Still try and still having some issues. Here, give me
one second.
Speaker 15 (01:15:30):
I think I may have it. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Let's sit here, let's see if we got Jonie. Here
we go, all right?
Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Not sure why I had a little bit earlier. Doctor,
why there's audio is not coming through?
Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Uh but y'all, her her statement was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
And and then as Omcongo said, she she did it, y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
She did it in a cemetery. I mean, how arrogant.
Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
Can you be?
Speaker 9 (01:16:08):
Also, she also equated to a tooth theory Roland. I
was hoping you can get the audio so folks can
hear from her own lips. Not only she's in a cemetery.
But then she says, was a good thing that I
didn't start talking about the tooth theory.
Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
A tooth theory.
Speaker 15 (01:16:28):
This this.
Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
A tooth fairy. She's equating death with a tooth theory.
Speaker 9 (01:16:39):
That's they're not only out of touch rolling, they're incompassionate
they're not fit to or deserving with the titles that
we call them. She's not deserving to be a United
States senator. I was hoping you get the audio, because
that's the part that really got me upset. When she's
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said it's a good thing I did start talking about
the tooth theory.
Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Yeah, well they look they're bungling the people. Uh, this
is what happens when uh you.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Know, look, elections matter. Elections absolutely matter. And and I
hope uh people remember this when they go to the
ballot box.
Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
I hope they.
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Remember how shameful, how shameful with her actions, because that's
this is this is who they are.
Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
All right, let's go ahead and play it.
Speaker 24 (01:17:43):
Hello, everyone, I would like to take this opportunity to
sincerely apologize for a statement that I made yesterday at
my town hall. And see, I was in the process
of answering a question that had been asked by an
audience member when a woman who was extremely distraught screamed
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out from the back corner of the auditorium, people are
going to die. And I made an incorrect assumption that
everyone in the auditorium understood that, yes, we are all
going to perish from this Earth. So I apologize, and
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I'm really really glad that I did not have to
bring up the subject of the tooth fairy as well.
But for those that would like to see eternal and
everlasting life, I encourage you to embrace my Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Wow talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
We had Bishop Barber on the show a little bit earlier,
but he was preaching this weekend and he did give
a response, So I want to go ahead and play
what he said from the pulpit in response to the
what that nutcase.
Speaker 18 (01:19:10):
Said at the town hall in Iowa this weekend.
Speaker 20 (01:19:14):
Just yesterday, someone interrupted Senator Jonie Ernst, it's going to
be on TV if it hadn't already hit it with
the reality of what this bill means. And they asked
her question, this is our now, and understand that in
an hour, not black folk not out there. That's why
you can't just address what's going on now from just
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a race critique. You got to have a fusion critique
where you bring white folk and black folk and brown
folk in Asian and they all of us together in
this moment.
Speaker 18 (01:19:49):
So way out in Iowa, one.
Speaker 20 (01:19:52):
Of the people out there, I don't know if it
was a farmer or what said to the said to
Senator Joni, people are going.
Speaker 24 (01:19:58):
To die.
Speaker 20 (01:20:01):
If you pass this bill. People are gonna die, and
was exactly right. Her response was where we all gonna die? Literally,
that was her response.
Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
But then.
Speaker 20 (01:20:15):
But then she went further. She went on the social
media and said something to the fact that I'm asking
forgiveness for anybody that didn't like my language about dying.
But people are going to die, and so if you
need me to, I'll introduce you to Jesus Christ.
Speaker 18 (01:20:42):
So that you'll be okay.
Speaker 20 (01:20:44):
And he turn Do you know that's the same language
that the slave master used to say the slave, don't
worry about your slavery, now.
Speaker 18 (01:20:55):
You just know Jesus.
Speaker 20 (01:20:57):
And the problem was the slaves already knew Jesus and
they know g Jesus didn't talk like that, and that's
why they used to sing a song everybody talking about having.
Speaker 18 (01:21:08):
And going.
Speaker 20 (01:21:08):
Now this, why did that person go stand up and say,
people are gonna die If this bill is passed as
it is, thirteen point seven million people would lose Medicaid
and their health insurance. Now, who were talking about with Medicaid?
First of all, how many y'all know somebody on medicaid, Regie, Yeah,
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I know somebody and probably some folks in here on medicaid.
Medicaid protects children with Luke Garrits's disease. Medicaid protects children
that have life ending rental disease. Medicaid protects people who
don't have enough money to afford insurance, but it protects
them to disable people.
Speaker 18 (01:21:51):
It protects all the way down. There's not a disease.
Speaker 8 (01:21:55):
That we have.
Speaker 18 (01:21:57):
That Medicaid doesn't touch in some way.
Speaker 20 (01:22:00):
And they want to cut three point seven million people
off of health care.
Speaker 18 (01:22:06):
Now here are the numbers.
Speaker 20 (01:22:07):
For every five hundred thousand people you cut off healthcare,
twenty five hundred to twenty nine hundred die. We didn't
get medicaid until the nineteen sixties, and so they're talking
about health care, taking health care from the most vulnerable Americans,
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and the people that are talking about it are people
who serve in public offices that get free health care.
Come on, somebody, I'm trying to pre so y'all on
cuss because it'll make your cuss, and I don't want
y'all cussing in the service. You know, you know, but
you think about who's doing this, the people who all
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they had to do was get elected, and once they
got elected, they got access to the best health care.
Speaker 18 (01:22:56):
Not not only is it free, you pay for it.
I pay for it.
Speaker 20 (01:23:01):
And when you get free healthcare, paid for it by
the people. But you're so cynical to say, well, we're
all gonna die. You are engaging in what they call
necro politics, the politics of death and murder. And when
you don't care, we all have to ask the question,
what mythology, what sickness, what has gotten hold of you?
(01:23:24):
What has entered you that all you can think to
do with power is hurt somebody. But we can't just
keep analyzing why they're doing it. We also have to
say we will not just sit here and die.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Folks. They are who they are.
Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
I'm going to go to breaky come back, y'all want
to know stupid? That's Donald Trump and people who appointed
in a staff meeting yesterday, y'all, it's this is so unbelievable.
When I come back, I'm gonna tell y'all what the
Trump's pick head of a FEMA had to say yesterday
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in a staff meeting about hurricane season.
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Y'all are y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
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It shows you how stupid these maga people are.
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You crystallize it by saying who are we to other people?
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Speaker 21 (01:28:09):
Hey, what's up the stammi Roman?
Speaker 8 (01:28:11):
And you are watching Roland Martin unfiltered?
Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
All right, y'all if you want to understand, how in
the office are chan.
Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
And Donald Trump's head of female Federal Emergency Management Agency,
David Richardson. He literally said in the meet he was
not aware that the United States has a hurricane season.
Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Now, now, now let's be real clear. Donald Trump has
denied tornado relief to Missouri. Tornados have devastated Saint Louis,
Denied FEMA assistants for Arkansas for hurricanes, Denied North Carolina
additional hurricane assistants.
Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Mississippi has been hit by hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
They said they ain't seen nobody all for them states
voted for Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
But what was insane?
Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
How you had a FEMA and you didn't know that
was a hurricane season, y'all. This story is multiple sources
at FEMA have said this took place, and they.
Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Are absolutely baffled that the acting head of.
Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
FEMA said, I didn't know we had hurricane season. CBS
says the remark was made by David Richardson at the
conclusion of an eight thirty am daily operational briefing typically
attended by hundreds of FEMA staffers and interagency partners.
Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Ruters first reported this.
Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Richardson, a former Marine Corps officer, is led FEMA since
early May. How your ass didn't know, Raven gone ahead, yo,
you got me laughing.
Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
I mean, it makes no sense.
Speaker 10 (01:30:43):
Just the level of incompetence is truly astounding, and honestly, Roland,
what I'm thinking of right here is really just that
all of their attacks against us are in admission about
their own personal failings. Right They talk about DEI didn't
earn it. Y'all are getting positions that you don't deserve,
and the whole head of FEMA doesn't know what hurricane
(01:31:05):
season is like. Y'all are really really projecting heavy and
it shows. But on a real note, it's it's terrifying
to have people this incompetent and positions of power that grand.
But we also know these aren't the brightest tools in
the shed. I mean, they deny climate change despite pretty
much every single credited and well renowned and respected scientists
(01:31:27):
saying that this is a reality that we have to
confront and we are getting to the point of no return.
These are the same people who think that Jewish space
lasers are causing causing, you know, climate disasters, are blaming
Democrats for somehow orchestrating climate disasters. So I wish I
could say I was surprised, but really, the bars in
hell at this point, and I think it'll stay there
(01:31:48):
if not go further down.
Speaker 11 (01:31:53):
I'm the con Glou've got no words, man, I'm just
like you.
Speaker 8 (01:32:00):
You got this.
Speaker 11 (01:32:01):
You add Christy Nome not knowing or hey, this corpus
means and she was a former governor before. I mean,
this guy's acting direct there because clearly he's an actor, right,
I mean, he doesn't know the real roles, and this
is crazy entering hurricane season, folks got to buckle up.
A couple of weeks ago when Candice was hosting for you.
You know, we did that story on Saint Louis and
(01:32:22):
how this can be. You know, black community has been
abandoned by what happened with the tornado over there.
Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
This end.
Speaker 11 (01:32:28):
You know a lot of these networks on covering it.
A lot of these you know, white sources aren't saying anything,
but now their communities are about to start getting it.
Speaker 12 (01:32:35):
I wonder if this story is going to surface then.
Speaker 11 (01:32:38):
Because these guys, we're about to see their incompetence on
full blast, whether it relates to the climate, whether it
relates to law enforcement, so many different areas. And on
top of this roland, you got guys coming in not
knowing anything, and then they're pushing people out with expertise.
I was listening to a story on the FBI today
and when I think about that tragic anti Semitic attack
(01:32:59):
in college grodo we always have attacks like this happened?
But now I find myself wondering more if things like
this could have been prevented if we had more competent people,
because they're pushing out career people there, folks aren't even
waiting for their twenty years.
Speaker 12 (01:33:14):
They're pushing out women.
Speaker 11 (01:33:15):
And so for we're talking about female whether we're talking
about homeland security, whether we're talking about the FBI, it's.
Speaker 12 (01:33:21):
In competence with the leadership coming in.
Speaker 11 (01:33:23):
And then on top of that, it's then pushing out
people with institutional knowledge and skills, and so it's disgusting,
it's ignorant, it's incompetent, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 12 (01:33:34):
But unfortunately, for too many of us, it's turning out
to be deadly.
Speaker 9 (01:33:40):
Derek, you know Roland, when our sailors come into the Navy,
the very first thing we educate them about this hurricane season.
We started yesterday, June first, for the listening audience, right
June first, all.
Speaker 8 (01:33:58):
The way through them. But here's the other incredulous part.
Speaker 9 (01:34:04):
Not only FEMA deny Georgia five point five billion dollars
from a hurricane disasters from last year, last fall, Hurricane Helen,
but FEMA also should be ready to respond to tornadoes.
Speaker 8 (01:34:24):
But it's hard to do that when you fired some
of the.
Speaker 9 (01:34:28):
Most senior National Weather System specialists to the tune, about
four hundred and ten of them. And so that's the
reason why devastation over in Kentucky, Iowa, and yes, Georgia,
these states that voted for him.
Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
He continues to deny funding and resources.
Speaker 9 (01:34:54):
And so we're going to be navigating this hurricane season
rolling like Stevie Wonder trying to drive a Cadillac just
as blind as we can be. And it's it's going
to be devastating. We have to think about it, because
citizens gonna wake up and find themselves without any kind
(01:35:15):
of alert notification.
Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
System because they turn all the folks, all these systems
off and send folks home, and.
Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
And all the red state folks.
Speaker 33 (01:35:27):
Halftime, we tried to tell you so now now now
they're sitting winding, complaining.
Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
And isn't it interesting how silent the Republican senators are
and members of Congress. Okay, I mean Josh Howley Missouri
has being we need female help.
Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Okay, Why aren't y'all pressing Trump? That's your boy? While
you're at Senator.
Speaker 33 (01:35:50):
Tom Cotton of Arkansas, where you're at Cindy high Smith
of Mississippi. It's it's amazing Tom tillis about Carolina where
y'all at? Yes, right, Oh, they real quiet because they
are scared to challenge the Orange man.
Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
That's all this is. That's all this is. So it's
amazing to me, Bravy.
Speaker 34 (01:36:17):
You cannot convince me that if Joe Biden, Kabla Harris
Barack Obama, Jimmy Carter shid Nah North Carolina, NA.
Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Mississippi now Missouri, now Arkansas.
Speaker 19 (01:36:32):
Not man, these Republicans will be losing a damn mind,
of course.
Speaker 10 (01:36:36):
I mean, we always get a different set of rules.
The bar is so much higher for us than it
is for them. They get to fail upwards and we
have to be twice as good to get half as much.
It's a totally different set of standards and a totally
different barometer.
Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
But that's how they operate. I mean, let's be real.
Speaker 10 (01:36:51):
I mean, Roland, You're you're naming this so well. Maga
is a cult. Let's be so for real. Maga is
a cult. They do not discourse and dialogue and arrived
to a myriad of spectrum based, you know, ideologies.
Speaker 7 (01:37:03):
They fall online, and that is the difference between them
and us.
Speaker 10 (01:37:07):
We understand how to dialogue across difference, We understand how
to build coalition across difference, and they do not. It's
either dogma or it's nothing at all, or you're ousted.
And I think that's a really really dangerous way to
try to build a base, but also a very effective
way to get people to.
Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
Fall in line.
Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Yeah, I mean, it's just but the silence is amazing,
just truly amazing. On the Congo and they're hypocrites and
I'm gonna call.
Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Them what they are.
Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
That's exactly what they are. I mean, this man is
looting the country and they say nothing. And so my
whole deal is, guess what I'm gonna remember everybody who's silent.
Speaker 12 (01:37:46):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Oh we pull in receipts and we.
Speaker 11 (01:37:57):
I think at the end of the day, it's also
important that the demo see those receipts too, because I mean,
you look at what's his name, you know, speaking Mike
Johnson over the weekend, you know, talking to Kristen Walker,
just lying blaming everything on Biden about the deficits, as
if Trump didn't run up the highest deficits of like
every president combined during his first term, or the fact
that he talks about, oh well, Biden and his Biden
(01:38:19):
corrupt family, they did everything in secret.
Speaker 12 (01:38:21):
And Mike Johnson literally said, you know what Trump.
Speaker 11 (01:38:24):
Is doing, He's doing it all in the open when
he was asked about corruption in the plane. I mean,
they are giving so much far to Dan Bengino, Bongino,
that FBI like a whatever director, you know, after Cash
for Cell was talking.
Speaker 12 (01:38:36):
About, oh my gosh, I have to work twelve hour days.
Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Now.
Speaker 11 (01:38:38):
I gave up so much to be here like they
are every single date, Joni Earnst. They're giving us fire
every single day. But what are Democrats doing with it?
What are the mainstream media sources doing with it? Because
I think we can all be honest here that some
of these networks and hen Ends and the like have
invested interest in keeping the Trump Show going because they
feel like it's good for their ratings, the Scott Jennings
of the.
Speaker 8 (01:38:58):
World and the like.
Speaker 11 (01:38:59):
But if we can pushing this the Reverend Barbers keep
pushing from their angle, some of these Democrats who are
actually about something, you know, like the AOC's and the
crocus and stuff. You know, we're not even two hundred
days into this thing, and I do believe that if
we continue to push this, push this incompetence, we're not
even gonna need a lot of these dzas maga volts
to finally see the light, because many of them never will.
(01:39:20):
But there are enough of us, there's enough of a
ground swell that can get out there and do something
about it.
Speaker 12 (01:39:24):
But we gotta stay consistent. And that's why I'm glad
we're on every night.
Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Derek is just it's crazy. It's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Hilarious to me how quiet these people are, how they
say nothing, they got nothing that they just has nothing
to say.
Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
And again he's screwing his.
Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Own people and they're like, hey, more of that please,
by all means, screw us over more.
Speaker 8 (01:39:56):
Roland.
Speaker 9 (01:39:57):
And here's a sad part. We shouldn't have to weigh
for pain to show up on our doorstep. We shouldn't
have to wait for death to be in our family
to respond. Now, someone asked me last week, we need
to take our democracy back so we can go back. Well,
this is the democracy that produced this two tier system
(01:40:20):
that we see.
Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
Live and well and living color.
Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Right.
Speaker 9 (01:40:24):
I don't want to go back to a democracy that's
created this orange dude. I mean he literally just continued
to do things with the microphone on and the cameras rolling.
I mean he said it was okay because he was
able to negotiate these million dollar plates rolling because.
Speaker 8 (01:40:42):
He was on his personal time. He was on his
personal time. You are the you are. There's no personal
time when you're in that role. Rolling.
Speaker 30 (01:40:57):
Oh yeah, it's okay for for him to charge five
million dollars for him to go play golf with other
foes because that's his leisure time.
Speaker 9 (01:41:09):
Now I'm not a golfer. You are rolling what is
that two hours? Three hours to go play eighteen holes?
And so I don't want to go back to that
kind of democracy. I want to go to a democracy
where folks look like Raven on a congo. You and
me are in the driver's seat, where we are governors, mayors,
(01:41:32):
county commissioners, school boards, superintendent, president, vice president, and then
we can drive this country to where it really needs
to be because every time we're in the position, we
make sure that that high.
Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
Tie lifts all boats and move us in the right direction.
Speaker 9 (01:41:51):
And so my thought rolling is this, we got to
have a strategy in place now and execute that strategy
right now, so that way Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, South
Carolina needs to be prepared for twenty twenty six because
if we don't get it right right now, then come
(01:42:12):
twenty thirty, they're going to really make sure that we
will never have an opportunity with this system. It's because
if they get an opportunity to do those congressional districts.
Speaker 8 (01:42:25):
In twenty thirty, row in, you think we're gonna be
able to.
Speaker 9 (01:42:28):
Vote where they already plan to take votes congressionals from
North Carolina, Georgia, California, and New York. So we got
to have a twenty thirty plan and execute it in
twenty twenty five, so that way we can really stop
all this madness.
Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Yep, absolutely all right, folks, going to a quick break.
We come back more right here a rolling mark unfiltered
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so financial issues has been causing significant problems with the
Allen Media group, and so we'll keep you abreast of
what happens next. Folks, New Orleans celebrated return and burial
of the remains of nineteen African American folks whose skulls
were set to Germany for racist research practices in the
(01:45:32):
nineteenth century.
Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
On Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
A multi faith memorial service, which included a jazz funeral,
honored the humanity of those finally coming home to their
final resting place at the Hurricane Katrina Memorial.
Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
These skulls belonged.
Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
To African American individuals who were severed and shipped to
Leipsit University from Charity Hospital for racially biased studies in
eighteen seventy two. One common practice of the time was
based on the unfounded theory that black brains were smaller,
which was used to justify claims of racial inferiority. Seventeen
(01:46:08):
to nineteen remains have been identified, However, efforts to contact
their descendants have been unsuccessful.
Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Wow, that is an unbelievable story on the Congo.
Speaker 12 (01:46:21):
It is Wow, it's disgraceful.
Speaker 11 (01:46:25):
Man, And you think about there were children from the
move bombing in the nineteen eighties who you know, were
burned and their body parts got shipped to different universities
and people to study how you know, what happens when
somebody gets burned. You think about the women from Harvard,
you know, who fought, who fought Harvard to get an
image back of our ancestors. These these these studies of
(01:46:48):
our bodies. Man, And look at what Lonnie Bunch was
doing with the Smithsonian, you know, working to send body
parts back to different parts across the world. From what
the Smithsonian has been doing over the years is it's
been such a common practice of robbing grays of indigenous communities,
of black people and shipping them across the world to
do what Not to improve medicine or anything, and that
(01:47:10):
would still be disgraceful, but to promote racist ideology.
Speaker 12 (01:47:15):
And the fact that this reckoning is happening now.
Speaker 11 (01:47:17):
I hope that more is done to locate the members
of these families, because they died in hospitals and you know,
back in those days. But to do this and to
not try to make any type of record of our recompensation,
especially financial, it shows how wicked and evil the system
of racism has been and how international it has been.
(01:47:38):
We talk about MAGA and the white supremacy here, but
with Donald Trump and all of them, know is that
it's global and it's been happening for centuries. And this
is the latest example of that. We can talk about
sarapartment in South Africa. Oh Ta Bangu from Congo. I'm
just happy that people have welcomed these remains back and
gave them the proper respect that they never got in
(01:47:58):
real life.
Speaker 10 (01:48:00):
Raven just to add on to that, I mean, I
think this reepatriation is absolutely a step in the right direction,
but it doesn't, as as my co panelist named, change
the fact that harm has already been done, and that
this harm is tied to just this global reality of
anti blackness that for some reason we just cannot seem
to fully breakthrough from or break free of rather and
(01:48:24):
I think, honestly, it's just disgraceful that not only do
we have to suffer the injustices of anti blackness in life,
but those injustices and those harms continue even after we're
already gone. I mean, you know, you mentioned Sarah Bartman.
They put Sarah Bartman's genitals in preserves and put it
up in a museum in France for people to view.
Right after she was made to perform in freak shows
(01:48:47):
throughout her entire life and abused and subjugated. Just the
cycles of harm are so profound, Like what has to happen.
How violent does that pseudoscience and that phrenology and these
eugenics have to be, and how do they have to
permeate for one to think that that is an acceptable
way to treat someone after their soul, their spirit has
(01:49:08):
gone elsewhere. And I think it's really just shameful. We've
seen this throughout history and a number of different contexts, right.
We've seen this in terms of the father of gynecology
experimenting on enslaved women without the consent and without anesthesia.
We also saw this in the context of Nazi Germany,
you know, during the Holocaust and concentration camps, young Jewish
people being experimented on, medically experimented on. So this is
(01:49:30):
really just a technology of subjugation. It is a technology
of bigotry that we've seen replicated across time and space.
And I hope that this can be a moment of
restorative justice both for the spirits of our ancestors who
are gone, who are being repatriated, and also hopefully for
their ancestors and rather for their offspring who hopefully will
be connected with them and be privy to.
Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
This moment about thirty seconds Derek, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (01:49:53):
Would just say this continues to add to the trauma
that we continue to hear and experience in this country.
I mean, we have a young lady right now in
a vegetative state where the law gives her unborn fetus
more rights over her. So this is as trauma and
it continues to create the distrust that we continue to
(01:50:13):
see in our society, folks.
Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
A prominent New York protester has been cleared of all
charges after new video evidence he was falsely accused. Terrell Harper,
known as Rally Rebel, was arrested in September for allegedly
attempting to break into the Brooklyn home of a police
officer during a protest. The protest took place in September
twenty third outside of seventy third Precincts following an incident
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where officers shot a knife wielding man, injured in two
bystanders and a fellow officer. Harper accused an officer of
assaulting protesters, and later found the officer's address using public records.
Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
He led a rally at the.
Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Officer's home the following evening. Police claim that Harper sent
a bat on fire and threw it over a fence.
He faced multiple charges, including burgunley, arson, and inciding a riot. However,
prosecuted dropped all charges after video footage contradicted the officer's statements.
Outside of the J Street Courthouse, Harper reflected on his
name being cleared, expressing gratitude after the video evidence disproved
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the lies against him.
Speaker 36 (01:51:16):
Yeah, because like the bro, none of it makes Like
did the body camp? I toold he the body camp
at night he was laughing, you.
Speaker 12 (01:51:23):
Know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (01:51:24):
It was the game next day darting them, he did
the like oh he would.
Speaker 36 (01:51:29):
He's hearing him in his vamily. He was spreading for
their life and Nigga's out there laughing. Bro, you know
the what what he was doing.
Speaker 8 (01:51:36):
He never said.
Speaker 36 (01:51:37):
It's on the novel one calls. They were saying that
boom broke it outside like they're going and sing like that.
They never say the booming, the kicking in my door
that'd be like the first thing you would tell them other.
Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Bout it right kicking in my door right now.
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So if the officers lied, I wonder if they are
going to get charged.
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I think I already know the answer to that.
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see if I can cut to this right here, let
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Of months ago.
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But Gabe Amo, who the Congressman from Rhode Island, you
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UH, he plays doctor.
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Phield and he plays an Alpha on the show. Well
in real life over the weekend, Adrian Holmes UH and
his line brothers actually crossed UH. And he also is
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fraternity of them all. The rest of them are simply
youth groups. But I already knew that, so let.
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Me and he didn't want to neither. He wanted to
go through the process.
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Well, well, well, first of all, I remember, we don't
do honorary so other groups do, sigmas, I know they do.
I'm not sure like I say, some of the other
ones out there.
Speaker 15 (01:54:39):
We know how they roll.
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But Alpha was we don't do honoraries. But I certainly
want to shout out Adrian Holmes as well. I send
him a note and I'm sure will be. And he's
a big time golfer, so you know I've already sent
him where to get the appropriate Alpha gear for.
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The golf course.
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And so the uh the show that uh we show
a photo of uh Adrian, So this is uh him
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Uh throwing the ice.
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So congratulations uh to brother Adrin Holmes as well and
all the other brothers who crossed and so uh and again,
if you in another organization, y'all don't get shout out
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